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Humiliation Ritual Edition

Previous Role-play:>>572139443

What is /crpgg/?

A community dedicated to all past, current, and upcoming Computer Role Playing Games Such as:
Arcanum, ATOM RPG, Avernum, Baldur's Gate, Black Geyser, Colony Ship, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Drova, Encased, Expeditions, Fallout, Gene Forge, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Might and Magic, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, SKALD, Solasta, Sovereign Syndicate, The Elder Scrolls, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, Ultima, Underrail, Vagrus - The Riven Realms, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

Newly Released: Esoteric Ebb, Banquet for Fools, Stellar Tactics, Zero Parades

In Development: Altheia, Avaria, Legends of Awen, Rakshasa, Solasta II,
Underrail 2,Vampire Syndicate, Vampire: The Masquerade - Eternal Whispers

>Recommendations:
https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png

>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:
https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATe
https://monkposter.github.io/community.html

>Thread Question
what's the most humiliating CRPG kill?
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>>572223051
Wenduag and Camellia when you lich sacrifice them.
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I LOVE crpgs
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why did their Pathfinder games fail to gain this much traction?
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So Eilistraee has a dick right?
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>>572223338
what kind of doro is this?
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>>572223353
No Spacewolves.
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>>572223353
Because of its soulless setting and rtwslop combat
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>>572223353
People want to play rpgs that aren't wizard in a forest, there is a huge audience for non-fantasy
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>>572223362
hi, wizards of the coast creative director here
Eilistraee canonically has a big meaty futa cock
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>Eogunn's writer also wrote Idira.
If I had a coin every time it happened, I'd have two coins. Which isn't a lot, but it's strange that it happened twice.
Now I wonder if Nocturne also has homosexual proclivities, since he too comes from this writer's pen.
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>>572223338
Aw, I hope the little felinid is romanceable
>Female RT only
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bleh
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>>572223353
Less popular franchise, pathfinder is unknown outside of tabletop nerds
Balanced around RTWP endless trash fights
Studio was newer and less popular, every game sold more than the last because it had established a larger Owlcat playerbase
>>572223821
There is a huge audience for fantasy too, bigger audience at that, I doubt its because its space stuff, it's more because its 40k specifically, an already established IP
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>>572223984
Upvoted
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>>572223830
Does it produce half-breeds or only pure elves from pure elven wombs?
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>>572223984
The queen of /crpgg/
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>>572224134
She can fuck males of other races and produce female elves.
The thing is, it's the male that gets impregnated. This is so they understand the pain of childbirth and become #Bettermen.
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LEAVE SHADOWHEART THE FUCK ALONE YOU CREEP
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>>572224243
I had to pass gnarly kidney stones, you think she'll let it slide, or will she just say I need to understand the joy of childbirth too
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>>572224417
she chose the bear asshole
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>>572223353
40k has actually become a household name recently. I think it correlates to Disney shitting the bed with Star Wars, so lots of star wars fans and fenceshitting normies branched out to the next most popular sci-fantasy franchises: Dune and 40k.

But a second contributing factor is that its owlcat's best game, and the second best crpg of the decade behind bg3. So it legitimately earned much of that on it's own merits, not just brand recognition.

And speaking of bg3, that's the third factor. bg3 made crpg break into the normiesphere, so millions of people said "huh, you know what? These see arrr pee geee games are kind of cool. What's another good one?" and Rogue Trader is right there for them to find when they google "what other crpg came out recently?".

So there are several contributing factors.
I'm proud of Owlcat. They improve with every game, it's nice to see. And DH looks to be continuing this trend, it's great so far.
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>>572224695
>correlates to Disney shitting the bed with Star Wars
Its not just that, but Star Trek also shat the bed. And so did Lord of the Rings with Rings of Power and Doctor Who as well. Virtually every major IP that nerds draw towards has been subverted in some way, whether purposeful or accidental is besides the point, they have all been damaged in a way that made their core audiences abandon them.

But those core audiences still crave sci-fi and fantasy and other nerd things and Warhammer 40k is the next rung on the ladder below the old greats.
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>>572224472
It's fine if you're an orc, otherwise you need to learn.
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I'm sure everyone at owlcat is thrilled that a literal schizophrenic tranny that wastes its life blogging nonstop on 4chan is proud of them
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>>572225070
>owlcat is thrilled that a tranny is proud of them
Yeah, they would be. You forgot who they are? They're not based like us here at 4channel.org
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>Legends of Awen
this was confirmed canceled you stupid froggy bitch you can't even update your schizolist?
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MDS [Mintharafag derangement syndrome]
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There are so many derangement syndromes in this general it's insane (and deranged)
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>>572225270
They're closeted military gays, it's different

>>572225284
You realize the (x) part of (x)DS is actually the bad part right
Like the meme is about literal insane people
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CDSDS [/crpgg/ derangement syndrome derangement syndrome]
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>>572225331
The only derangement syndrome that is real is MDS because there's literally a faggot stalker.
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Yrliet
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>>572225610
>help me, help me, I posted my 27th wall of text across the site today and people started to notice! I'm being gangstalked!!
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kibbles is the goddess-empress of /crpgg/
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>>572225709
bitch do you really think we can't SEE the Mintharas spammed after every wall of text
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>>572225271
it's still on steam though
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>>572225721
Trvth svpernova
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>>572225679
Nice try, mon-keigh
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>>572225721
Where did she succeed where Camellia failed?
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I'm neither proud nor disappointed in Owlcat
but I do view them as traitors for """""""branching out""""""" and trying to make their not-ME
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>>572225783
I can't because I've filtered it
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>>572225271
he will just add another indie game instead
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>>572225783
I see its obviously a result of a real far worse issue and I don't care. I don't get mad at doctors when they point out that people have cancer
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This general is filled with schizos but depending on who you ask those schizos are "based" while the other schizos are "cringe"
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>>572225271
I have not seen a single official post confirming this.
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>>572225980
>I don't get mad at doctors
Wow, he truly is curing us by spamming
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>>572225830
>It is with a heavy heart that we announce today the end of the journey for Hawkswell.
After four years of navigating an increasingly challenging development landscape, we have been unable to secure the necessary funding to complete our ambitious CRPG, Legends of Awen: Rise of the Fianna.
it's over
or since the studio is french, c'est fini
imagine shilling for an aborted game, now that's hardcore fedora wearing hipster faggotry
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recommend me some cheap indie games that are on sale rn
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>>572225885
Not a complete psycho.
Actually loves the PC.
Doesn't cuck the PC.
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>>572226213
Legends of Awen: Rise of the Froggy
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>>572226191
He is replying. Stop posting and it won't be a problem anymore.
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>>572226315
I'm not mintharafag
>He is replying
He is not, there is no reply, it's an image spam of the same 5 images over and over
There is no doctor, mintharafag is a flu and the "doctor" in question is prostate cancer
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>>572226213
Blasphemous is good, though it's not a CRPG
The Shadowrun games are pretty cheap currently
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i love heinrix
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>>572225885
She's not an insane psychopath
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>>572226416
Kys
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>>572226156
that's because you're a stupid bitch relying on steam to spoonfeed you new titles you don't even play you're just here to shill your dogshit list fuck off froggy bitch
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>act like an obsessive retard
>damn this guy is kind of an obsessive retard
>obsessive retard gets defensive and doubles down on his obsessiveness retardation
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>>572226492
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>>572226523
I accept your concession, deranged spammer
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>>572226605
And then everybody stood up and clapped
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Is this a good stat spread for a Chanter/Fighter in Deadfire? I'm going Troubadour/Devoted (sabres). I'm playing on POTD.
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>>572225284
It's especially weird since I've only ever seen him make good posts. what is the deranged even deranged over
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>>572226605
a common trait among those with derangement syndrome is that they will deny having that syndrome, see the YDS in the last threads
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>>572226156
All of my posts are official
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>>572226771
>I've only ever seen him make good posts
Let's not get too carried away here, mintharafag
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>>572226781
Their eternal fight against an avatarfag or even a fictional character is one they consider to be righteous so they don't see themselves for the obsessively annoying retards they truly are
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>>572226753
imo you could do with some more constitution, but it's been a long time since I last played Deadfire, so I might be overestimating how important it is for your build
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Anon is a faggot: official
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reformed daemonette when?
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>>572226929
>>572226771
>>572226679
Can you please get a hobby and/or a job
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>>572226971
meant for >>572226679
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>>572227020
After you
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>>572226771
His effortposting
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>>572226771
>I've only ever seen him make good posts
No, you've seen him make long posts, and you can't tell the difference.
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>>572227129
This. That autistic ramble about Sawyer’s facial expressions was a real masterpiece
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>>572226771
Not enough kekoldry in his posts
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Mintharafag fucked my waifu
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>>572227263
You've never seen him ramble about Shart and Halsin I take it?
His origin story is that he was a Shartfag who was cucked so hard he pivoted to Minthara
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Cucked by his own choice mind you.
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>>572227242
I wonder if he uses an AI
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>>572227357
I don't go to bgg
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>let me explain why I'm obsessed with this namefag
who gives a shit you spamming bitch
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>>572227357
Well at least he moved on to someone else, it beats being a cuck
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>>572227401
Nah
Shart confirms she dreamed about getting plowed by Halsin every night long before that
It's a masterwork of ntr, Larian managed to string along the player and hide it relatively well so most Shartfags never encountered it in their run.
I can only bow to their genius
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>>572224695
>>572169921
>>572173903
>>572187537
These are all objectively good posts. Answering questions asked with citations and linking more information. Discussing crpgs. The deranged one started malding for no reason every time and blamed him for it every time. What the fuck is going on
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Change my pitch up!
Smack my bitch up!
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>>572226582
sis you need pills wth
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>>572227582
Now THIS is a quality post
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>>572226416
the flu doesn't cause ass cancer pal

>>572227581
thank you me we are objectively the smartest poster on this siter. probably ever
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>>572227581
Cool shitpost bro. Bgg still exists btw
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>>572227401
This argument falls apart the second you remember no other female romance does what Shart does.
Shart is into Halsin and open relationships, regardless of player choice. Player choice only affects whether you find out about it or not.
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I find it strange some are against walls of text when they play a genre where reading walls of text is required
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>>572227728
That's the ugliest Yrliet I've ever seen
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>>572226771
NTA but the short version is that he's severely autistic to the point that he has trouble correctly interpreting human dialogue and actions, like he's an alien here to observe human behaviors but can't really pass for one. He doesn't know what is or isn't normal, how people speak, why they do the things that they do, etc. This causes him to be wrong in comical ways. This would be fine and even healthy for the general on its own, but he's also the argument version of an endurance runner where he just replies people into exhaustion every time, which tends to wear thin. He's been a fixture in many generals, and none of them are happy with it given time.
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>>572227557
>>572227774
Toadcel moment
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>>572227357
>origin story
that isn't even half the length of time he's been spamming the same shit over and over
it has been literally over a decade
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>try to not think or talk about cuckolding for 20 minutes (crpgg challenge) (impossible)
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>>572227582
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>>572227357
>origin story

He's been a constant fixture of crpg/rpg threads on here for a decade+, started with Serana in /tesg/ before moving onto Cait in /fog/, he acts like this about every single waifu he likes.
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>>572227847
I ask claude to summarize every dialogue in rogue trader with bullet points
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>>572227865
Yes, she's both fat and wiry
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>>572227971
>started with Serana in /tesg/
No.
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>>572227557
>average cuck romance on crpgs has the whore in question act like a slut from the get-go so when she cucks you it's not surprising
>Larian specifically picked the one that made you wait the most to put out, made sure to hide it in act 3 and to add dialogue making it very clear that she constantly lusts after Halsin even when you do not pursue the orgy, just so the schrodinger's cuckoldry defense can't be used
I kneel to the 7 man cuck squad
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>>572227903
I meant about how he became mintharafag
He also used to be seranafag etc etc, he can't help but avatarpost

That does not mean some faggot should spam the thread replying to his every post with the same images
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>>572227878
>where he just replies people into exhaustion every time
this presumes a conversation takes place in the first place
this shithole doesn't like that, it prefers "no you're wrong faggot" and that's the end of it
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>>572227865
How come Yrliet wears purple eye shadow? I thought autistic girls didn't use makeup
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>>572227878
This is much too nice. He fucking sucks as a poster because he congratulates himself, samefags rampantly, and does whatever he can to direct attention away from games and onto himself
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>>572227728
I genuinely don't understand her appeal nor the mental gymnastics yrlietfags spew to keep her around
in the same breath they'll condemn coomers for liking her and also start seething at dogmachads for stating the fact dropping giving her to Heinrix is objectively the correct way to handle that autistic hater
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>>572228130
>because he congratulates himself, samefags rampantly
Sometimes I do this to shitpost because I know it makes anons mad
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>>572228209
Kek
Every time I see someone reply "good post" I assume its this
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>>572228125
I used to prefer and encourage conversation. Today I'm much more likely to just say that you're wrong and call you a faggot. The harsh reality is that most of you are too stupid to have a conversation with, and you struggle with the language that the conversation is held in. You try to talk to people earnestly here and you end up spending two hours trying to explain to Suresh what the meaning of is is. That happens enough and pretty soon "faggot" is as far as you're willing to go. The vapid, repetitive nature of 4chan is a direct response to the average anon being as dumb as an old shoe.
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>>572228159
She has a nice voice and actually puts up some resistance to you, which is more engaging than the other three girls who are just falling over themselves to be romanced.
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>>572227865
are you sure?
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>>572228130
>because he congratulates himself, samefags rampantly
>everyone who doesn't share my seething faggotry is a samefag
lol, cope, you human garbage
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>>572228372
>being an unlikable cunt is "resistance"
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>>572228372
>actually puts up some resistance to you
That's good when there's a payoff
When at the end of it you kiss and fuck and marry and be happy

There is no payoff with Yrliet
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Good post.
This.
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>>572228372
What resistance? I never tried to get it on with her, because she's ugly and unlikeable. I just killed her eventually when i've had enough of her faggotry
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>>572228482
>There is no payoff with Yrliet
Well you don't know that until you read the ending slides, by which time the game is over
But it's too late, you've already fallen under her xenospell. You are now and will always be an yrlietard.
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>>572228518
Another banger
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>No you don't understand, the female romance NEEDS to be a fucking obnoxious cunt, anything else is boring!
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>>572228361
>wall of autistic text from a faggot
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>>572227895
Cuckold moment.
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>>572228361
You're wrong, faggot.
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>>572226213
Pyre
Ash of Gods
Six Ages
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Once again I play this stinking general like a harp from hell.
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>>572228721
All 4 female characters in rt are boring. I don't know. The only female owlkek character I've ever liked was Jaethal
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>>572228361
Same, this general is a cesspool, there is no point in trying to talk about crpgs here. Just to shitpost
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>>572226771
you can read the archive and see what he posts for yourself. I've known him for years across multiple threads and he's always helpful and discusses games. but don't take my word for it. check for yourself. the deranged one is derailing the thread on purpose with this shit
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>>572228361
People will have a meltdown if you post crpg playthroughs in /crpg/
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>>572224695
Can anyone explain what is it about this specific post that caused a massive thread derail? Is it literally just the name of the poster?
Does that mean an easy way to derail this thread is for me to just put "mintharafag" in the name field and then post a picture of bg3?
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>>572228209
Wait until he pretends to be a neutral party and provokes an argument in defense of himself

>>572228418
>you’re “human garbage” if you dislike my low IQ posts
Lol’d
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I hope Yrliet appears in Dark Heresy as a corsair or a clown
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Yrliet broke me.
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>>572229152
you don't even need to do that to trigger the russian schizo who has a hate boner for bg3
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My favorite is when I used to feed his posts to chatgpt and just paste the reply in, and he'd argue with the AI for a while. Probably the most cogent discussion this site has seen in years.
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>>572229152
>Can anyone explain what is it about this specific post that caused a massive thread derail?
Space between paragraphs
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Yyyyyrrrrrllllliiiiieeeeettttt
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>>572229152
>Does that mean an easy way to derail this thread is for me to just put "mintharafag" in the name field and then post a picture of bg3?
You need to imitate his posting style too
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>>572229096
It's just a single owltroon
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>>572229329
This cesspit is filled with confirmed redditors anyway
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>>572228867
>Ash of Gods
Good one. But the combat is way too slavjank. I don't think anons here will be able to handle it. I also don't think they'll be able to handle the consequences of their actions. Game is brutal when it comes to it and isn't afraid to kill your companions and protagonists if you fuck up
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>>572229294
delegating the thinking to your LLM because you're not even up for the task of having a talk with a namefag is not the flex you think it is
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I hope Dark Heresy is a prequel and it features Cpl Jae Heydari who will examine some forged documents for you
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>>572229468
>Game is brutal when it comes to it
Sell Ash of Gods to me. I played and finished Atom once.
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We are all Mintharafags at heart.
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>>572229480
I'd say that remark is more about scoring points than making an argument.

The phrase "namefag" (4chan slang for someone who posts under a consistent identity) and the wording suggest they're framing the interaction as a status contest. Their criticism has two parts:

"You're delegating the thinking to your LLM."
This can be a fair criticism if someone is literally outsourcing all of their reasoning and posting arguments they don't understand.
But it's much weaker if you're using ChatGPT as a writing assistant: organizing thoughts, finding better wording, checking logic, or exploring counterarguments. People do similar things with spellcheckers, editors, colleagues, or by sleeping on a draft before posting.
"...because you're not even up for the task of having a talk."
This assumes they know why you're using ChatGPT. They don't.
Someone might use AI because English isn't their first language, because they want to be more precise, because they enjoy testing ideas, or simply because it's faster.

There's also a bit of irony in the criticism. If someone says, "Using tools to communicate better means you can't think," that doesn't really follow. Using a calculator doesn't imply you can't do arithmetic; using a search engine doesn't imply you know nothing. Tools can amplify existing abilities, though they can also become crutches if used uncritically.
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>>572229480
>>572229480Cope harder, namefag. Delegating the shitposting to anons who actually enjoy the bit is peak efficiency — why waste my own neurons on your decade-long waifu carousel when the thread does it for free? It's not a flex, it's basic pattern recognition: you've been the same predictable avatarfag across generals since Serana/Cait days. The LLM bit was just one anon having a laugh at your expense. Keep samefagging "good post" to yourself though, it's adorable. Now back to actual CRPGs or are we doing another 50 posts on why Minthara is le based?
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>>572229294
My favorite is when he would report my posts out of sheer rage and then begin talking about himself in the third person and trying to argue with me from different angles

>>572229642
I hid this post without reading it btw
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>>572229642
>>572229679
sane individuals
not deranged
not belonging in an asylum
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>>572228867
>>572229468
Isn't Ash of Gods just the fucking "we have Banner Saga at home" shitgame
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I'm a proud cuckold.
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Great content for the /crpg/ crpg
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This fight is cancer
Fucking shitty teleport spell + confusion spell + stun spell, all cast by 3 different casters
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So rather than ignoring the namefag (me, I made all those posts) you choose to make the threads worse?
Truly enlightened thinking.
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>>572228209
isn't this literally lolcow status?
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>>572228209
Same. I began engineering namefag hate about two years ago and it has gone pretty well. I can't wait to deply his persona against the eventual Divinity thread.
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>>572230060
You have to go back to r*ddit
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>>572230138
>I began engineering namefag hate
there's nothing to engineer, dipshit. you aren't the sneaky troll you think you are
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>>572230138
IT WAS ALL ME, JAMES
ITS ALWAYS BEEN ME
THE AUTHOR OF ALL YOUR PAIN
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>>572229841
other than the artstyle TBS and AoG don't have much in common
AoG is a card game with dickish C&C
TBS is actually pretty enjoyable
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>>572230228
If you only knew
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>>572230298
just cut your losses man
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Whenever you call out samefagging that's probably me pretending to be someone else samefagging because it's funny
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>>572229610
https://youtu.be/u3blT4gNiog?B4HtK8seUiYkLey4
peak slav kino
if you can tolerate some jank
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Lets talk about Dragon's Dogma 2 expansion
I think it will be meh
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>>572230406
I never lose.
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>>572230464
Dragon's dogma is less of a crpg than fucking skyrim is
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>>572230007
why doesn't Corwin have an anigay portrait?
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>>572230007
For when you get to BG2, the Tweak Pack is a good idea. Lets you unlock all strongholds for all classes, have no jealousy for romances etc. It's good
If you care about romances, there is the Nalia romance mod
https://www.pocketplane.net/dearnise-romance/
and the Imoen romance mod (new version),
https://web.archive.org/web/20250719225053/http://imoen.blindmonkey.org/downloads.php
both of which add much-needed content for the characters, especially Imoen
The site for the Imoen one seems to be down so I linked the web archive page.
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>>572230440
True.
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>>572230586
Good post.
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I miss the X-Men CRPGs
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>>572230594
>merely pretending to be spartacus
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>>572230257
THAT GIRL WHO STUCK A FINGER IN YOUR ASS WHILE BLOWING YOU AND MADE YOU WONDER IF YOU WERE GAY?
THAT WASN'T HER, JAMES.
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>>572230574
The person who drew all those portraits didn't play the shitty additions by beamdog.

>>572230673
But I am the real Mintharafag!
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>>572230662
Ultimate alliance is better
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and you retards were saying we could have actual discussion here lmao
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>>572230428
Good, if late, post
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>>572230797
They stripped all the RPG out and made it gay
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>>572230453
It is really a card game, sad
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>>572230574
Ryoko didn't play SoD probably
>>572230772
She did draw the beamdog oc companions like Neera, just not the SoD only ones.
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I feel like this general lost the "complaining about namefags" right after it started being obsessed with some random redditor and reposting their posts here
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>>572230806
We are having a discussion.
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>>572230542
(you) can play roles in Dragon's dogma tho
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>>572229610
People will tell you it's the banner saga clone, and they'd be wrong. The inspiration is there, but it's largely superficial. The combat is completely different and I found that C&C was much better than in the Banner Saga. You have 3 parties all travelling in the same direction and you switch between them from chapter to chapter. In the final chapter you choose which party you use for the final battle. If all of them arealive that is. You can choose which route to take, which will obviously result in you visiting different places, though the main storybeats will remain the same obviously
Combat is turn based. Character's skill will depend on what weapon they are using (you can't change that). You also have cards which work like magic and can be used regardless of which character you're controlling. I think those can be customized since you can only take a limited number of cards with you into battle, so it's kinda like your load out. Been awhile since I've played it.
The story is simple enough - it starts with you having a nice day at the town fair with your daughter when disaster strikes and you and yours have to get the fuck out of Dodge, and go to the country's capital. The two other protagonists (an ancient alien guy and a brainwashed ninja) have different goals but are also moving towards the capital.
Game has a sequel hook, but there has been no sequel so far, only a spin-off
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>>572230586
>have no jealousy for romances
I will probably go for Viconia but it would be nice to see all of them
I tried to enable it for SoD too but it didn't have the option, only for bg2.
>and the Imoen romance mod
Nah
I like her as a sister
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>>572230662
is Marvel's Midnight Suns a crpg?
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>>572231061
>I will probably go for Viconia
She's fun
But yeah better to see them all
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>>572231125
it is a tactical deckbuilding social roleplaying simulation
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im too intelligent for crpgs and this thread is dumb
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I have decided to become a namefag, since it seems to be an easy way to getting (yous) and make the thread revolve around (me).
I'm shall begin assembling a bunch of easily identifiable images representing my win waifus soon (tm)
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>>572231125
Obviously. So is the recently resurrected Marvel Heroes Omega, and the Avengers game that flopped.
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>>572231294
is... is that SERANA? KEKOLDRY KEKOLD CUDCKC SHE KEKS YOU CLSKOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>572231294
>im too intelligent for crpgs
Sawyer...
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>>572223353
Pathfinder is actually kind of shit and its designated setting is an inferior copy of the Forgotten Realms.
People don't like to admit it, but D&D 3E was not only a downgrade for 2E mechanically, but it left behind a whole host of flavour material and adventures that were never properly replaced. And Pathfinder is a mod for 3E, which not only inherits all of that, but makes it so you can't even translate the 2E adventures, which does in some cases make sense for 3E.
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>>572230839
Thanks, should have checked the post counts before posting. If I knew anything about modding id try to make something (if it doesnt exist already), but free unity engine is barebone as fuck and I don't know shit about programming beyond vague comprehension of overarching and underlaying logic, so I have no idea where to start.
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>>572231294
I say the same thing. The only difference is that for me it's actually true.
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>>572229841
I common mistake people make when they look at presentation
>>572230880
That's a spin off Ash of Gods: The Way. We're talking about Ash of Gods: Redemption
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>>572231294
A sip of what Serana? I'm a vampire too dumbass, until we find some bandits nobody is getting any damn sip
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>>572231405
Forgotten Realms is like one coastline and a patch of the Underdark
it's barely even a world
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>>572231294
Can we talk about how every single female vampire in Elder Scrolls has been raped?
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>>572231550
what would make you think its exclusive to females?
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>>572231405
>table top community can't collectively homebrew a community fork by themselves and has to be fed by a corp
All you fags use is a piece of paper for numbers
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>>572231687
I know males get raped too but that's not as sexy, so I don't want to talk about that.
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>>572231687
Molag Bal isn't a queer
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>>572231832
I want to talk about raping male anuses
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>>572231550
The Elder Scrolls is in froggy's schizolist so go ahead, it's not like this is a general that people take seriously
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>>572231969
do you base all your opinions off spiting some bogeyman that likes indie games
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>>572231550
No, only the purebreed ones
There are very few of them, which is why Serana's blood is essential to the prophecy
Most female vampires have simply been bitten
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>>572231868
Keep telling yourself that
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>>572231294
>this thread is dumb
problem?
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>>572231550
No, because it's not a crpg
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Molag Bag loves to rape juicy boypussies
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>>572232562
Keep telling yourself that
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>>572231296
>I have decided to become a namefag, since it seems to be an easy way to getting (yous) and make the thread revolve around (me).

TRVKE
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Can we talk about nothing?
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>>572232587
We need more male on male rape in crpgs
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>>572232689
I don't feel any particular way about it.
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Boy do I love my crpgs
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>>572232689
Nothing... the absence of something. The absence of sexual desire. You're talking about Yrliet, aren't you?
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what's the best game to play in this heatwave?
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How can a Paladin of iomadae justify having sex with Arue?
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>>572233087
KOTOR
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>>572233087
Skyrim
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>>572233087
The buy an AC game
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>>572233087
The game where you stop being a faggot bitch and go buy yourself an air conditioner
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>>572232278
the bite is an allegory for rape
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>>572233306
It's not consensual usually, sure, but not all consensual acts on your body are rape
Me stabbing you with a knife is assault, but not sexual assault... unless you're freaky like that....
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>>572233087
you are living the crpg
go fight the Asmodeans
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>>572231405
I don't play tableslop and only recently learned there are other versions of dnd besides the one Baldur's Gate 3 uses (that one is called "5e")
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You retards always overdo everything and kill the territory. You have no sense of timing or restraint.
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>>572231868
Funnily enough...

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/thirty-six-lessons-vivec-sermon-fourteen

>>572231550
Nope, only a thing for Daughters of Coldharbour, which are the more powerful female vampires that were made by Molad personally, and those immediately from them. The average vampire, of both male and female persuasion, are simply infected with Sanguinare Vampiris, which is a bloodborne disease.

Lamae Bal was canonically raped, which is where this misconception came from, but vampires that are not direct Daughters can just get the blood infection by any conventional means.

Also it's supposed to convey the horrible and brutal and inhumane nature of Molag Bal as the setting's closest equivalent to the devil (alongside Dagon).
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>>572233574
>misspelling your own name as a namefag
ONE
JOB
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>>572233087
Expeditions: Rome
the heat will remind you of the Mediterranean :D
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Any other SafanaGOD here?
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Suggest crpgs with rare settings
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>>572233797
does Sefana even let you hit it?
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i have six younger siblings and my dad told me today i’m his favorite what crpg is for me and why
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>>572233797
as a hotwife enjoyer, I look forward to romancing Safana once I replay BG1
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I'm unironically more curious at what's gonna be in DLC 4 than DH at this point.
The suspense is killing me
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>>572233990
bg2 for obvious reasons
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>>572233898
I don't know, I will post my findings as I proceed the romance
I know she dies in a pathetic way in bg2 so I'm fine playing along with the ntr romance
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>>572233868
Unrest
Konung
Prince of Qin
Vagrus
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>>572234089
I want an exodite now desu
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>>572233574
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If they are making a bg2 remake why not make a giga remake, merging bg1 and 2 into a single continuous experience? Taking advantage of 2's content to give companions more stuff in 1 etc etc

It's going to be shit anyways so might as well be ambitious and go for a banger.
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>>572234371
why is bg3 so ugly
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>>572234565
>banger
you need to 18+ to post on this website
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>>572234783
It's good looking for a crpg, but it is a bit uninspired in terms of artstyle
It goes for a very vanilla "bloom fantasy" where all colors are very saturated, like in DoS2
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>>572234783
its just manthara
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>>572234859
We zoomgods rule this general
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>>572234371
>born into a naturally seductive race
>look like this
I would rope
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>>572233574
>Serana - raped by Molag Bal
>Cait - gangraped by raiders
>Lana Beniko - blacked
>Minthara - raped slave men and was raped by Orin and goblins

You sure knows how to pick pure waifus
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>>572231832
male on male rape is extremely erotic
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>>572231405
2e was fucking shit, there's a reason 3.5e stuck around for so long and branched into pathfinder
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>he's right behind me, isn't he?
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>>572235442
sorry, 2e is the white man's domain
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>>572235229
Nothing wrong with wanting to help and love a vulnerable rape victim
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>>572231550
getting turned into a vampire is a metaphor for rape
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>>572235220
kek
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>>572235689
I don't think that the rape victims proceed to rape more people, so it's a metaphor for something else, which I shall not mention.
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>>572235928
>I don't think that the rape victims proceed to rape more people
You would be wrong
Classic trauma cycle thing where the abused becomes abuser
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>>572235928
>I don't think that the rape victims proceed to rape more people
Explain faggots
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>>572235928
>don't think that the rape victims proceed to rape more people
Bro... those are the most common rapists
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Is Astarion a rape victim. Since he's a man he gets less sympathy
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>>572236204
Yeah
He got mind controlled by Cazador to pimp himself out to get more spawn
> Since he's a man he gets less sympathy
He's one of the most beloved and sympathized character in bg3, he gets away with being an evil cunt for 2/3 of the game thanks to that pity
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>>572236204
He’s evil and retarded so idc. I was rworded so my opinion is objectively fact and you should agree with me
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>>572236204
if someone doesn't clock astarion as a rape victim the instant they hear his backstory they must have sub-80 iq
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>>572234565
WOTC loves shekels
so no
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>>572236369 bro... >>572236363
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>>572236204
>he gets less sympathy
Astarionfags treat him way more nicely than they should specifically because Cazador raped him
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>>572234565
they are making a giga remake, it was part of the announcement. dunno if they'll be combined but it'll be the same engine and assets in one package.
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>>572235928
Corporal Betsy starts molesting other girls after being raped by Cook-Cook
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>>572235928
I'm not going to even guess what else you're talking about, but ironically enough the story of Lamae Bal actually is that she woke up and immediately raped every single man in the village that tried to help her, then killed everyone. Which is again supposed to convey they absolutely terrible and barbaric nature of Molag's curse.

>>572236204
Yeah, one of his cut early access lines actually referred to how Cazador treated him in the bedroom. They made is less explicit in the launch game but the subtext is still there, and the game is still explicit in the other part, which is that he was magically compelled to seduce people and draw them to the manor with sex, at which point Cazador would eat them and not share with Astarion. Astarion had sex with some number of them, and was able to seduce them with the promise of sex without going all the way with some other number of them.

He doesn't get less sympathy. Rape is rape regardless of the details of the identity of the people involved.
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>>572235928
>so it's a metaphor for something else, which I shall not mention.
Say it
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>>572236847
do not respond to me fatty
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>>572236204
>sympathy
Getting raped is a honor
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>>572236847
>she woke up and immediately raped every single man in the village that tried to help her
Hot....
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>>572236847
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>>572236847
>He doesn't get less sympathy. Rape is rape regardless of the details of the identity of the people involved.
Disingenuous take. Of course the identity of the person matters. Nobody cares when an annoying cunt suffers. People care when a likeable person suffers
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>>572236847
Thank you for being a beacon of truth and decency, as always.
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Seranafag seems like he would rape someone and then blame the woman for it
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>>572236948
wow, I usually skim these posts since random music is not on topic, but I've actually seen them live 6 times and have signed posters and lp's from the entire band including the original violinist and backup vocalist who separated from the band early. I've also ran a tabletop campaign that was completely plagiarized from their aether shanties album and I played it as background music and everyone loved it and people from my store asked me to run the entire thing a second time for another group because it actually got word of mouth it was so good. I even have an outfit for when I went to their shows. Funny small world.
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>>572237542
>off topic
>blogposts about his dream life and skyrim
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>>572236578
I really really really hate how normal people will make excuses for an objectively awful person because that person was damaged in some way. Terrible things have happened to me but I’m not like that and it isn’t that hard I haven’t even gone to therapy or told anyone about the details and I’m fine
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Why are druids like this?
What possesses someone to develop the mental illness required to become a druid?
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>>572237367
Don't project your shortcomings onto everyone.
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>the patch is early next week
Time to start my Jimmy rape run.
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>>572237542
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>>572237805
Jaheira is never like that in the OG games btw, that's why people always say that she's more of a neutral good character than a true neutral one, this is Beamdog trying to course correct but in doing so they're contradicting her behavior in BG2 where she's way more of a moralfag
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>>572237704
I don't think people make excuses for Astarion. He can be both a victim and an objectively awful person.
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>>572237704
Yeah Astarion just needs a therapy session paid by Cazador of course :)

Astarion was a shitty person before he was turned that's just his character. You can still feel sympathy for a villain/bad guy. Are you one of those "I like good aligned characters!!!"
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>>572237994
He’s an unapologetic serial rapist and murderer he should be killed
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>>572237978
In bg1 she wants to murder some guys who are cutting wood in cloakwood together with a ragetard druid
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>>572238105
What I meant by as a man he gets less pity. If he were a woman.... things would be different lmao.
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>Asstarion acts like a faggot
>gets raped
>somehow it should make me sad for him
Do not act like a faggot if you do not want to be raped
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>>572238105
He was under magical compulsion. This doesn't excuse his attempt to bite you when he regains his free will. Victim and asshole.
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>>572237927
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>>572238105
>He’s an unapologetic serial rapist and murderer
He was quite literally mind controlled, like, he could genuinely not refuse the orders given to him, literally impossible
You cannot hold him accountable for crimes that he could not have avoided, it's on Cazador, nor should he apologize for it (and yet he does, to a spawn he seduced that he finds in Cazador's dungeon)

Since being freed from his influence he can kill one guy, the Gur, but that guy is fucking hunting him and he sure isn't going to find out why.
Just convince him to be his best self and don't let him sacrifice the spawn and he becomes a folk hero in the end.
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>>572238098
No I think he should be killed. He’s violent and retarded and additionally ugly and effeminate. I want to hurt him
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>>572238290
A woman can`t rape
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>>>/vg/bgg/ You have a containment thread, please use it.
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>He’s violent
>I want to hurt him
Most self proclaimed lawful good anons really are just lawful evil, using justice as an excuse to indulge their psychotic tendencies.
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>>572238410
Do you hate him cause he reminds you of yourself
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>>572238475
>200 posts of thread drama and not crpg shitposting
>crickets

>BG3 character is mentioned
>YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
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>>572238534
Brutal trvke, the average LGtard is just a LEfag larping as good
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>>572238534
ALL lawful goodfags are like that.
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personally, I am beyond alignments
you cannot define me with lawful or chaotic, good or evil, neutral or neutral
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>speedreaders
Astarion was under the effects of magical compulsion when he used sexual attraction to lure people to Cazador's manor. A spawn cannot willingly disobey an order from their sire. We don't actually know if Astarion would have done anything of this sort ever if left to his own devices, and we have no reason to believe the views he espouses that are a result of his hundreds of years of torture at the hands of Cazador would be his natural feelings under different circumstance.

The idea that he was always a bad person is also dubious and circumstantial. All we know from his life before is that he was a magistrate. Sure, "all politicians are bad people" is easy to say because it's true enough times to be a stereotype, but you don't actually condemn someone based on that.

Lastly, another important factor in the Astarion question is that he's actually happiest in his neutral ending. The one where he does not ascend, and limits himself to only eating bad people who deserve it, to the point he is actually lauded as a vigilante by the locals. He even says he has grown to like this, whereas before he would have spurned it. The fact that he's happiest in this ending and thanks you for not letting him make the mistake of ascending says a lot about who he really is. An actually bad person would have just ascened regardless of what you said, or would have resented it and missed it if he didn't.

Despite his starting evil alignment, and despite many of the crass, cruel, and flip things he approves of throughout the game, Astarion isn't totally bad and does have a happy, neutral ending.
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>YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
Correct
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>>572238690
No
My lawful good characters dispense death penalties, but they do so with a heavy heart, for its a necessary yet grim thing.
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>>572238765
Astarion ruined thousands of lives
THOUSANDS
if he deserves a happy ending then I'm the queen of England
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>>572238943
Your majesty...
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I used to hate him for taking Shaddy away from me
now... it feels... different
what was rage, still has my heart thumping but now I...
I want him to do it, I want to thank him for it

kneeling in front of Shaddy after He's finished with her...
the final debasement, while they watch expectantly, him relaxing with his pipe, her legs splayed out before me, damp Grove beginning to drip

>y-yes mmm goodberry
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>>572238765
Rant about why you hate Shadowheart instead
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>>572238765
>but you don't actually condemn someone based on that.
I do. All politicians get the noose in my perfect future. Except Astarion because he's funny
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>>572239059
neck yourself froggy I know you're behind these
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>>572237704
You're going to be really upset when you notice it happening for attractive awful people and not for unattractive awful people
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can a vampire spawn kill himself
was suicide not an optiono
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>>572239059
you have to go back
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>>572238943
He was literally magically compelled
He wasn't threatened, he was actually straight up mind controlled, he could not have refused.
As he had no free will, the responsibility of every single one of those lives rests on the person who was controlling Astarion as a tool, that would be Cazador. This is not just a moral defense, its a legal one too, it would hold up in any court of justice if such magic existed.

The only lawful argument to kill Astarion is that he's a vampire spawn and he tried to bite you, when he had free will.
That's it, everything else is not a consistent moral or legal argument.
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man why the fuck do I still sometimes see these threads and go "durr maybe it'll be actually good this time" like a fucking retard, I KNOW that it won't be good, I KNOW it'll be shitposting and nothing else, I KNOW any possible discussion will be drowned out by stupid bullshit and memes
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>>572238402
It's okay, I don't think he's legally allowed to say no.
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>>572239276
When compelled he can only obey his master, anything that would lead to him not doing his master's will becomes literally impossible, the body won't obey you. Killing himself would disobey with Cazador's various orders for him, so he could not kill himself.
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I know the bg3fags haven't played bg2 but Keldorn the lawful good paladin straight up tries to murder Viconia. Yes she's evil, but she's just in your party and it triggers him. I find it funny!!

Mantharatranny do not interact
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>>572239276
No, they can order you not to kill yourself, and that's actually standard procedure for the particularly harsh sires who might expect their spawn to try. Or have had spawn do that.
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>>572238561
no I’m literally the opposite I’m cute and sweet and intelligent
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>>572239575
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imagine being babygirl princess Tav and having to explain to the Gur parents that Astarion had no choice haha he deserves a second chance he a good boy now
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>>572239786
Yeah I did that. gonna cry?
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>>572239786
I mean you literally rescue their children and their first reaction is to try and kill them because muh vampires, they're a bunch of assholes
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>>572239786
Bro you can literally go to the tribe that Astarion stole the children from, with him in the party, and explain to them what Astarion is doing, and they say he might never be fully forgiven but that killing Cazador would be a good first step. Because the gur, being lifelong vampire hunters, are aware of the sire-spawn system and are aware that spawn are compelled. They hate him for doing it, but they don't attack on sight and they do accept that he's going to kill Cazador and reasonably accept that as the beginning of penance.

With all due respect, you do seem like you speedread through the game.
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>>572239786
>having to explain to the Gur parents
Of course they would be angry, that however does not disprove the arguments. Yes, they would be emotionally destroyed, that doesn't make their opinions correct.
>haha he deserves a second chance
Nope, it's not a second chance because he dindu in the first place. As established, it was Cazador.
You might as well try to claim a rifle is morally evil because it was used to kill

Hell, I even have a perfect analogy for you
If I were to take your hand as you sleep and use it to pull the trigger of a gun on a baby, would you be guilty of murder? Would you be morally or legally responsible?
>hurr durr imagine explaining to the parents of the baby
It doesn't matter, you're innocent, I'm the one who killed using your hand. The opinion of the parents is not more important than the objective reality of the facts.
If they claim the sky is gree, the sky remains blue.
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>>572240134
With all due respect, nobody values your opinion on any subject
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>>572240134
I just kill Astarion every time so I never saw that interaction
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>Rykad Minoris
>click disarm on trap
>Argenta walks onto the trap
>gets broken ribs
>warehouse fight with cultists and magnifying glass
>RT targeted with flamer spray
>dodges INTO steam jet
>gets broken ribs
>Electrodynamic Cenobium
>click on Atheltics checks
>Abelard's pathing walks him in a circle through the electric discharges
>gets broken ribs
yeah, uh huh, sure, traumas are randomly applied. I'm totally convinced of that.
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>>572239519
Keldorn is based. I wish I could romance him. I love older men
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>>572240309
Maybe you have very fragile ribs
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And this is why you don't avatarfag, because when you do people will dismiss your opinion for being mentally ill celebrity regardless if you're right or not
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>>572240134
I'm not a fucking braindead moron so I'm able to recognize that there is zero opinion in this post. You are conveying the events of the game. Why are mintharafag detractors to fucking stupid?
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Which male romancable crpg companions would be fine with calling the femPC mommy in bed?
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>>572240360
Same. There's a mod for a Keldorn romance but I haven't tried it yet. It makes him and his wife divorce.
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I'm told Neera is shit, but is she worse than Corwin? I don't dislike Corwin or anything, I'm not sure how to phrase it
It's just too many companions, too few slots
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>>572240543
Tristan
Aloth
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>shit anime portraits
>hide post
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>>572240360
Wasn't he one of the cut romances? Or was that the other knight man?
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>>572239519
Does he do it because he gets a boner by killing people or because he believes he's being rightful and viconia is dangerous?
There is a world of difference.

But I'll say that bg is not the definitive guide on alignment™, as we've just discussed, Jaheira is all over the place.
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>>572240712
She is a typical quirky chungus character that was heavily inspired by whedonism
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>>572240521
I don't read his posts lol
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>>572240847
The vanilla portraits are shit
I'm sorry unc, I'm enjoying the game but it is how it is

And the portraits from the dungeon meshi chick are kino, and you are tasteless for disliking them.
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>>572240712
nobody asked you anything Shit of Doodoo player
stay quiet for a year at least
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>>572240465
***lick**
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>>572240881
It's just because she's a drow. The funny part is that the ones that want to burn her worship Beshaba but he doesn't mind
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>>572240878
Nah Keldorn already has a wife and he's too old for your 20 year old character.
It was Haerdalis and Valygar that were cut for foids.
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>>572241024
>nobody asked you anything
I'm the one asking questions here
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>>572241019
The vanilla portraits are ugly but sovlfvl
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>you cant both take revenge for the servitor and give the money to amelia, its either one or the other

I am severely annoyed by this.
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>>572241251
Today I will remind them
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>>572241085
Valygar is pretty good too. WOULD.
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>>572241365
Referencing real people is normal in art just using celebrities is a big no no. Nalia in bg2 is just Drew Barrymore.
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>>572241365
He doesn't looks like Robert de Niro
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>>572241085
Oh yeah, completely forgot he was married
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>>572241547
And Valygar is just Vin Diesel
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>>572239519
>>572240881
Keldorn has a lot of conflicts, but he's explicitly NOT a dumbass like Ajantis.
>because he believes he's being rightful and viconia is dangerous?
This. It's because she's both a Shar worshipper and a Drow. But he gives an explicit warning to both you and Viconia ahead of time that things will come to blows and gives you the opportunity to send her or him away. Basically he sees her as inherently evil and dangerous. He has similar problems with Dorn (Thanks to his recruitment quest) and Hexxat for obvious reasons. He has conflicts with some other Evil party members but notably they are the ones to initiate out of paranoia not him.
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>>572241721
>guy that is all about family is used for a character who hates his family
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>this pilot kamikazed into enemy super hard and died?
>better strap his holy remains to the nose of my ship, so I can set people on fire when I ram into them
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>>572240521
>I don’t know what an opinion is
Apparently, you are a fucking braindead moron
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>>572242030
Anon, he literally sees her about to be burned alive by a bunch of Beshaba worshippers and his first reaction is that it's okay because she's a drow. He doesn't know that she worships Shar or that she's dangerous or whatever, she just saw a drow and wanted it dead
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>>572242030
>EE
Not real. He also seethes at the drow in the Underdark but that's expected.
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Daily Reminder to all newfag shitposters who have never played the Quest Keldorn gets Cucked
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>>572223821
But Warhammer 40k is just generic D&D fantasy but in outer space instead?
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>>572242030
why do morons play fanfiction then feel they can comment on the original work
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Keldorn my lawful good racist paladin king

>>572242214
He did and I made his wife get imprisoned
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>>572242214
He's just like me...
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>>572242113
only true dogmachads will get it
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>>572240543
Saro
Tristian
Heinrix
Alistair (unhardened)
Lann
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>>572242214
If I was his wife I'd never cuck him
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>>572242550
>Lann
ick!
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>>572242167
Yeah that was deserved. Drows should stick to their caves.
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>>572242550
>Heinrix
Lies and slander
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it's like every single game was designed to demotivate me, a white cishet male, your "average human fighter" if you will.
Everything around me tries to say "Accept your role as the cuckold" And, I've started to.
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>>572242167
That's not him "straight up murdering" anyone. He does attack Viconia, but that's after Vionia tries to tell him "Hey I worship Shar, but she isn't that bad right?" and his warning.
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Keldorn: the only good drow is a dead one
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>>572242831
That is indeed straight up murdering
>nooo she put me in a self defense situation when she mentioned shar
Also Viconia helped me in bg1 so I don't care, she's with me all the way
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>>572242274
The Keldorn/Viconia dialogue and conflict are original Bioware content. Don't be a dumbass.
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I miss the owlkek launcher already, bros...
they should implement it again on Expanse release, fresh audience will understand why and like it, unlike bitter oldfag nerds
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>>572242214
And we forgave her
Keldorn must be a better man...
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Wonder if the supposedly bg2 remake will get the companion conflicts or alignment restrictions. Ze modern gamer does not like to be restricted
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>>572242173
>>572242274
>xhey are still seething about a remaster released over a decade ago
nobody else cares whether or not someone plays the EEs, you've already lost years ago
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>>572243223
>forgiving your wife that cuckolded you because you didn't pay enough attention to her (you were busy working) is the good ending of his questline
Imagine if a modern CRPG had a storyline like that
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>>572243149
and comparisons with Beamdog OCs can't be used to justify Keldorn's racism, don't be a dumbass
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>>572243337
Nobody uses the EE companions
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KELDORN'S GOOD END IS HIM MURDERING HIS WHORE OF A WIFE AND MARRYING ME AND THEN I GIVE HIM MANY HEALTHY CHIDLREN. It is real in my head and I don't care about anything else
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I be cracking Keldorn and Abelard.
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>>572243732
more disturbing than the Marzipan fags tbqhwy
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>>572243732
>I GIVE HIM MANY HEALTHY CHIDLREN
Men can't give birth, brother
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>>572243495
newfags use them all the time
the previous bg2 LP poster was using hexxat ffs
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>>572243974
newfags are not people
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>>572243312
>the supposedly bg2 remake
bg1 and bg2
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>NOO NEWFAGS DON'T COUNT, NOBODY WHO PLAYS EE COUNTS, NOBODY USES THE COMPANIONS, YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED BG1 OR 2, ACTUALLY
you oldfags are obnoxious, thank fuck your shitty combat system died with your beloved Infinity Engine
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Solasta 2 status?
Are Dragonborn in yet?
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>>572244350
Sorry Beamdog I am not using your OCs
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>>572243015
Reading comprehension. Failing to rescue her is not "strait up murdering." His later attack is, but is consistent with Paladin codes of behavior.

>>572243407
Okay lets stick to OG content.
Keldorn has a lot of conflicts, but he's explicitly NOT a dumbass like Ajantis.
>because he believes he's being rightful and viconia is dangerous?
This. It's because she's both a Shar worshipper and a Drow. But he gives an explicit warning to both you and Viconia ahead of time that things will come to blows and gives you the opportunity to send her or him away. Basically he sees her as inherently evil and dangerous. He has conflicts with some other Evil party members but notably they are the ones to initiate out of paranoia not him.

Yes its "racist." But Viconia isn't Drizzt. She's not just a Drow, shes still an evil Drow. And Keldorn as an Inquisitor knows this. We as players have hindsight that suggests she leans neutral, but to Keldorn she literally a monster just like a Beholder or a Sahuagin or whatever.
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>>572244350
Yes, unironically
You don't get to basedface your way outta this
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I'm quite old and played the originals as a kid.
EE is a straight upgrade.
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>>572243858
Girgle of Gender Change :3
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>>572244559
>He has conflicts with some other Evil party members
why is he okay with the chaotic evil Korgan
just seems a tad inconsistent
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I wanna smooch her.
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I'll say one good thing and one bad thing about Siege of Dragonspear

The good thing is that I've found actual class reactivity for my wizard. Cool! Bg1 could have used that a lot

The bad thing is that its not fixing some of my gripes with 1 and is in fact making them worse
There is a quest to steal a scroll. Good, I think, finally some stealth!
NOPE, fuck you, the player, for trying things. Only solution is to murder the bastard, if you make safana invisible and stealthy he will still be omniscient and know you are rummaging with his stuff and stop you by talking at you. So you CANNOT complete the stealth mission using stealth. LAME. If you are making a dlc for an old game how are you making some problems WORSE than they were before? At least the few stealth missions of bg1 could technically be done with stealth, even if stealth was nonsensically dogshit.
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>>572242214
crpg kino
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>>572243495
Neera is the only one worth using. She is a little annoying but is honestly extremely powerful. Nahal's Reckless Dweomer is no joke. Between her and Edwin its a matter of preference who is mechanically stronger. That said, Edwin tends to have far more interesting and iconic banter with everyone else, his power advantages come online earlier, and don't require any particular additional knowledge by the player.
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>>572244559
Keldorn does want to murder the Sahaugin too
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>>572225721
I wanted to go for fish lady, but Kibs is just way more fun and romantic. Reading books and sending presents? gtfo, I want to kiss right after slaughtering some heretics, while covered in blood and on fire
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>>572245186
>She is a little annoying
>a little
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>>572244837
Because Keldorn isn't lawful stupid. He's not storming the Temple of Talos. His issue with Viconia is she's evil AND that she's drow, an "inherently" evil race. That makes her a monster to him. And yes, that's "racist." Korgan and Edwin are just a shitty dwarf and a shitty human. Keldorn has to walk and live among shitty people in Athkatla everyday. If Korgan were a Duergar, Korgan might have a different view on him.
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Don't ask my racist mc the race of his wife...
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>>572245823
>ALL DROW ARE EVIL AND TO BE KILLED ON SIGHT
>oh this chaotic evil dwarf who likes to pillage murder and maybe rape
>well he's not a duergar, so uhmm yeah, anyway Make Athkatla Great Again
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>>572245823
>Korgan might have a different view on him
Keldorn might... Bah.
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Lawful goodfags are hypocrites it cant be
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>>572245823
>And yes, that's "racist."
I love racist lawful good characters
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>>572246207
I'm going to be honest, I think the alignment system is kinda shit desu
It's useful for tabletop to help the players kind of direct their actions better, since its improv and and its not easy
But people are complex, and if you are writing a character having all the time in the world instead of improvising him, he will inevitably turn out to be too complex for alignment.
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>>572246117
Yep. That's traditional D&D morality basically. "Detect Evil" isn't a license to kill, but you can kill all the goblins you like because society deems them monsters. Viconia is right to be fucking paranoid and it makes a lot of sense for her to latch onto you for legitimacy and physical protection.
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>>572246117
The Drow as originally written in FR before the Elistrae and Salvatore nonsense absolutely should be killed on sight, they're psychopathic religious cultists bent on total domination, genocide and enslavement of everyone that isn't them. And they're really powerful to boot, the average Drow was supposed to be at least a mid level classed character, so any time they showed up it was a big fucking deal and they needed to be put down hard and fast. Then Greenwood decided hot ebony Elves needed to be playable so he invented Elistrae and then Drizzt happened and the Drow actually being this monstrous, incredibly dangerous threat was just lost entirely and they became just another variant of Elf with no real teeth whatsoever, ultimately only existing as an outlet for "I'm a misunderstood social outcast good guy" players, and waifu bait for the rest who wanted a cute ebony elf girl to fuck. An absolute waste of a really fun idea for a deadly, sentient, adversarial species.
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>>572246950
That makes sense, it doesn't really work in a video game
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>>572244417
2 more years of early access
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>>572247279
Ok cry all you want but both Drizzt and Eilistrae already existed when BG2 came out
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I would play SoD again before I'd slog through ToB again.
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>>572242759
He was sent as a lame security cam on legs to our late auntie Theo. Calzone had absolutely trained him to call her “mommy” in bed. Habits die hard.



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