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Star Savior is a new game by Korean studio BSide, the developers of CounterSide. It's a 3D turn-based fantasy RPG with training gameplay. It features an all-female cast, optional PvP and is voiced in Korean and Japanese.

>Useful Links and Beginners FAQ (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING STUFF)
https://rentry.org/ssgguide
https://star-savior-arcana-db.pages.dev/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mGC4TTUo8d6-Ik-KsV9yqWy8lcBijVdUCeb0wVtaZh4/edit?gid=305820094#gid=305820094
https://tychara.com/StarSavior

>Arcana Friendlist
https://pastebin.com/2zjb0gTz

>Download
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3609080/StarSavior/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.studiobside.starMain
https://apps.apple.com/app/id6443597557

>Reset
https://time.is/1900+UTC

>Banners
Carnelia

>Events
Sonatine for the Forgotten

>Guilds:
Scarcity
Lummies
Lucklets
Hildfriends
Huldra

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>>571432561
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Luv Nanodas!
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Carnelia's jiggle physics are out of control.
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asherah blowjobs fat ugly old bastards in public restrooms
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>>572256260
Carnelia journey was a bit confusing, did it happen with Dancho verdad blanco or Dancho verdad negro?
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Reset time for doing your thrilling daily Star Savior content!
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>>572257926
Dancho blanco is only in the main story so it has to be dancho negro. The main difference in that loop from the main story is that Carnelia never met Asherah terror and learned the truth of the world until the final loop.
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>>572256260
thanks for the bake
>>572259062
time to get my shit kicked in by evil smile
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>i week thread
how do we save this game?
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>>572260449
>how do we make the thread more active?
Post more often.
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>>572260791
Hmm, nyo
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>>572260449
send in feedback to customer service:
>why the fuck is Journey so brutal
>why the fuck is Combat Power so brutal
>why the fuck is Ryu such a nigger
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>>572260949
They're "fixing" combat power in late July but it really shouldn't have taken them this long. And who knows if it'll actually fix things.
They did add the Journey Blessing reroll feature but for my feedback survey I said it wasn't good enough. Hopefully more people did the same.
Your final issue is unfixable.
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>>572262038
And all that "fix" amounts to them just changing how some of the values are calculated...
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>>572266994
Probably which is why it shouldn't take so long. But instead we have to wait another month to see a change that probably won't help nearly enough.
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>>572256260
Will the big sis ever get a good ending?
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>>572267467
It won't help at all. Even if the changes increased our team's cp by 20k (it won't), we'll progress ops a bit until we get walled again by a 50k cp deficit.
The underlying issue of not being able to use sub-optimal units will not be addressed by these changes. The game desperately needs a new game mode, but that's a long time away since it wasn't even mentioned in the last update
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I predict that they'll be too afraid to do what needs to be done (nuking combat power from most of the game) and instead we'll only get improvements once we go far enough Beyond The End that Ryu won't be there to block good ideas. At which point, we'll have a collab with Counter:Side Reloaded...
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This game has minimal marketing, and it's not doing anything novel on top of looking very low quality and just frustrating you to no end with engagement check list of whalebait modes. It's not gonna last in the current market.
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>>572270080
nuke combat power scaling from the game entirely. just get fucking rid of it. give the enemies levels like the saviors do. thats what cs did. max level a character could get there was 120. the enemies in the final story chapters were going all the way till 150 or something. but they also had other mechanics that had to be worked around too, like immune to stun or stealth or change in behaviour upon health thresholds. ss is fully just cp gating, like dimension farm from cs, which also was the most annoying content to do in cs. wow, what a coincidence. any dev with brain cells would have seen the reception to it and thought of not making their entire next game's difficulty around such a loathed mechanic. but this is bside
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They should focus on making the game less of a struggle. The absolute mountain you have to climb in Star Savior is inhumane and it doesn't allow for good variety of character choice.
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When is it a good time to use your gold stash? I'm at 20-29 normal and always short on gold.
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>>572294497
If you're out then you should use them now.
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Honestly if they stopped making bosses fucking immune to everything this game would be a lot more manageable
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>>572268901
I have a feeling that they've programmed the game around CP such that instead of giving enemies actual stats for each stage, they give enemies a base stat amount and a scaling factor and then have the stage's CP recommendation + difference factor determine the actual stats. This would save them time trying to fine-tune the stats of each operations stage manually but now makes the flawed system difficult to remove.
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>>572298139
ahhh the HSR game design
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>>572270080
Nikke nuked cp in story stages and hard stages 2 or 3 times quite early on in the game, but this game won't even do it once while the playerbase keeps bleeding. The devs are fucking retarded.
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The way dancho acts around Haydee reminds me of sensei with Iori in Blue Archive. People joke that sensei loves brown girls because of it but what is it about Haydee that makes dancho go gaga?

Is he a masochist that likes it when girls talk down to him? Haydee's arc point is literally about that after all. Is that what makes him so rapeable too?
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Bwos should I just drop the game? I'm not really having fun and I loathe the journeys, collecting the girls isn't enough
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>>572310275
How far along are you?
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>>572310468
Day 1 player, 26-1 normal 9-1 hard, I usually get the 3% frame and do max points in guild battle.
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Uninstalled. Too much mundane clicking for dailies.
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>>572311208
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>>572311083
Just chill bro. Login, do dailies and then log out. You're burning yourself out trying to push too hard. They need time to "fix" the game if they ever will. It's barely 4 months old in the only region that's giving them hopium.
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>>572272930
It already bombed in KR and JP, the most relevant whale regions. There's no marketing that can be done to save a torpedoed ship unless they had a massive rework of the game and a huge budget.
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>>572290909
How to fix the game:
>delete cp
>make journeys an optional content that gives you nothing, only there to enjoy the journey story from the girls
>you now get the goddess power from the journeys combining x type of cards, making the card combinations more flexible
>release dozens of skins to properly monetize the game
>give more resources to build characters and teams
>more starlink slots for free
I think this is pretty much everything
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>>572312204
I will log for some weeks to collect the daily stuff, let's see how the game evolves.
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>>572312436
Based. They do have a lot of changes in the works and they should be reviewing survey results from the half-anni polls to get some more ideas. Just gotta be patient and hope for the best.
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>>572311208
the fact that there is no button in the cash shop to switch to the apocalypse shop and vice versa still irks me to this day
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Am I the only motherfucker that likes journeys? Maybe its because I've played other raising type games (anyone who calls uma musume a roguelike is an idiot) but I think journeys are perfectly fine. They're relatively short compared to other games, the RNG is relatively low, and its not that hard to get decent results even if you're not at the right resonance level or have MLB cards.

My only real complaint is that some stats feel harder to raise than others. Like, there's not a lot of great endurance options out there. 3 vit 2 end is enough to max out (or at least hit 1000+ vit) for a.vit tank like Emily. But 3 end 2 vit isn't enough to get even close for an end tank like Haydee. Plus focus and protection are both hard to raise and kinda useless to raise too

But honestly it could be a lot fucking worse. Journeys are casual as shit as far as I'm concerned and I'm happily doing 1 a day, sometimes more. There's only 3 characters whose journeys I haven't done and 1 of them is someone I don't even have yet
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>>572313435
Only 3 stats are useful, they are repetitive as hell once you've been playing for a long time and the weather rng is pure cancer that can instantly ruin your journey, I'm sorry anon but if you like journeys you might have some kind of brain problem
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>>572313435
>They're relatively short compared to other games
>the RNG is relatively low
Stars save us...
But for me, if I'm doing Journeys to see a new girl's story then it's actually very nice. The story notion to Journeys is excellent. If I'm doing a Journey to get a better result for my best characters it's more often frustrating because it's hard to understand what's even going wrong or right. Stellar Archive scoring is nonsensical. I raise my best character from Resonance 8 to 9 and completing a hard journey got harder instead of easier. The Stellar Archive number goes down but the CP value goes up or vice versa. Alicia can just pull a random stat for your item out of her ass. And the Blessings at the end are wayyyyyyyyyy too random. How the fuck is it even possible for a character with max Strength and 100/1250 protection to be offered a +10 Protection as a potential roll? Rerolling costs a full Journey ticket, and you can't go back if you reroll a worse result. It's random for the sake of artificially making it basically impossible to get the best result.
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>>572313435
yes, you are
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>>572313435
the journey storys are 10/10 and I still hugely enjoy doing them, but getting fucked sideways by rng or if you do a 10/10 run but get shat on by alicia giving you the wrong buff at the end tilts me beyond belief
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>>572314275
Only 3 stats being relevant is annoying, even for rangers who you'd think want SOME focus to land their debuffs. But weather is barely an issue? At most you lose a condition which isn't that bad. Improving a condition is basically the same as improving mood in uma musume, using the game people know more. Its just a minor setback, its not run ending. I have no idea how you're losing runs to weather unless you're trying to do hard journeys at reso 2 or 3 and you desperately need to high roll everything
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>>572313435
>the RNG is relatively low, and its not that hard to get decent results
>finish run with 1250 strength and sense of attack at level 5
>Focus +10
aw dang it
>reroll
>Focus +10
aw dang it
>reroll
>Protection +10, sense of focus 1*
aw dang it
>reroll
>Focus +10
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>>572313435
You're not the only one who likes journeys. You're just a blind idiot whose either ignoring the massive problems with journey farming, or is too new to even face such issues yet.
Journey stories are great and tend to have the best writing. But like the rest of the game, playing it is the problem. Having to run these again and again, getting fucked by stat rng, event rng, relic rng, alicia fucking up your starlight trajectory rng, and finally your stellar archive being ruined by rng, and spending tickets to reroll, ultimately ending with something worse wears away at enjoyment massively. Like czn and uma, the roguelite mode is fun-ish in isolation, but when its the main way how you build up your character so that they can play anything else, and its subject to such strong layers of rng, the fun evaporates fast.
>They're relatively short compared to other games, the RNG is relatively low, and its not that hard to get decent results even if you're not at the right resonance level or have MLB cards.
Scratch what i said earlier about you being a noob. You are 100% a blind moron. Even blindfolded evil Asherah is not this ignorant and delusional to how bad things are. I like how you kept using the term 'relative', as if that excuses how nothing you said is real. Everything can be relative by that stretch, even truth and reality, if we're going by your Gaping Dragon-like asshole that would make Scarlet's pucker and blush
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>>572313435
Just doing the journey without worrying about being optimal isn't too bad even if it does get repetitive once you've done a good chunk of the characters. The problem comes when you're trying to get a better archive than what you already have and every bit of bad rng you get makes it less likely that you get it. Especially when it's late game rng like getting a super training drought or getting the wrong potential from Alicia. Just kills my motivation to do journeys when I get to the very end and the game's like fuck you this is all you're getting for your time.
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>>572313435
I get that there's a kind of person who doesn't mind pressing the same buttons over and over, for hours on end, until they get what they want.
But, it's not 2010 anymore.
This >>572322881 is what the market is like. You spend 25-40 minutes on a Journey, you need to feel like it was worthwhile. There are tons of options right now, and pretty much all of them are "invest a small amount of time, for a small amount of progress and get out (also tits)".
Journey is the main thing that breaks that in SS. (Combat Power is also a drag, but a separate issue.)
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Will Asherah ever get her happy ending or will she stay cucked forever?
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>>572325998
She's going to murder Alicia for putting us through the Journey so many times.
And that's how she'll win us over.
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>>572325068
imo, combat power is even worse and more detrimental to ss than journey rng, because if there was no combat power bullshit, you wouldn't really care or mind a sub-optimal journey build. because at the end, you're striving to pump up how hard the journey save is pumping up your character's stats, but mainly their cp as well, journey becomes from a neat otherside story perspective of characters, to an utter crucible of slog that tests your patience and will, while running the roulette (that is heavily not in your favour) of wasting your time too.
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>>572322881
Journeys would be more satisfying if crappy stellars could be used for patching up good stellars, like CZN letting you improve decks outside of runs
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>>572326218
nah, asherah is going to murder epindel first. think about it:
>childhood friend fights you because you both love the same person, duke it out and ultimately kill your friend, alienating your lover and cementing yourself as a villain. go full "if i can't have him, then this world won't either" and try destroying everything in the name of love
tale as old as time. problem is, the childhood friend normally gets about the same screentime as the soon-to-be-villain before getting offed, but epindel has only showed up in the waltz asherah event and wedding event. you wouldn't even know she and asherah were childhood friends unless you used either epindel arcana. also if >>572244975 is correct, alicia is the penultimate boss
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>>572327005
>childhood friend gets wedding alt
>main girl doesn't
whole new level of cuckqueanery, holy fuck
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>>572328309
This is the real reason why dancho is so herbivorous in the journey. He must've fucked Epindel at some point and it caused Asherah terror.
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>>572328469
He also fucked tyria, gille and tyria again while gille watched
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>>572329572
Thats my Administrator! Always taking 'sleeping with the enemy' to newer and further heights
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>>572270080
They won't nuke combat power because if people do all operations, they'll realize how little non-PvP content this game truly has
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>>572313435
You could've summed this up with "I'm a broken and beaten Uma victim, I like Journey because they don't beat me up as much".
To people with self respect who care about their time they are indeed dogshit
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Everyone is bitching about journeys being impossible RNGfests but while you guys were bitching I did 3 Haydee runs in a row. And each run got a little better as I refined my approach and deck, until Haydee became my highest scoring archive. If I had more MLB SSRS (or if my training luck was a bit better) she'd probably hit 10k.

This shit is NOT hard, man. Its time consuming so yeah I'd get it if people were bitching about that. But my runs are super consistent, I don't get why people are treating this like a RNG nightmare.
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>>572333105
So what you're saying is, the 1 hour you spent on the previous two Haydee runs was completely pointless and the third run made them obsolete?
Noted...Journeys are still dogshit time wasting slop riddled with RNG
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>>572333105
You aren't really trying to do the shit we're all complaining about. I whiff run after run trying to make attack Annah and I finally got a run that hit 1250 strength (couldn't have done it without passing an insanely risky fail chance) and it's still ultimately useless because I had to drop Emily from the deck to get enough strength bonuses. You're also using Haydee who gets high scores easily because endurance training jacks your score for whatever reason.
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>>572333105
Beating the journey isn't what people are complaining about retard
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>>572334316
>every run except the one where you reach the end in a roguelike is completely pointless
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DELETE THIS GAME IT IS ONLY PLAYED BY THE FOLLOWING
JEWS
NIGGERS
HOMOSEXUALS
GYPSIES
TRANSVESTITES
MUSLIMS
CALIFORNIANS
GREEKS
ARABS
ISLAM
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>>572338270
What about the gooks?
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>>572338136
As has been said before, playing the game is the goal in an actual roguelike. In these raising gachas, the raising game mode is trivial to complete and the goal is getting a good result out of it for use in the rest of the game.
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>>572338523
the game failed in both KR and JP, anon.
the frontpage of the StarSavior Arca channel is recommendations for other games.
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Some characters really shouldn't be particularly hard to raise but they feel that way. I swear Dana hates me, I've never had someone fail sub 10% trainings as often as her
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Well I finally got a Dana run that was an improvement
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>>572312253
I like this, tell me this is a bside employee please
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You know for a waifu game we don't really talk about waifus much.

Personally, even though Harley is my favourite, I think Bell's CGs are very cute and she's a fun and interesting character. Plus she's close to doing the Moe Moe Kyun~ thing while wearing a maid outfit so that's gotta score some points
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>>572352975
General got taken over by aggressive complaining and CS doomering. It's about time we take it back.
Star Savior has a wonderful cast of beautiful and inspiring girls that need tons of love poured on them. And it also has Scarlet.
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>>572352975
Blame bside not the anons playing the game
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>>572356431
only (you) can post in the thread and tell us which girl(s) you love the most
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>>572352975
Bell's surprisingly cute given her personality. She's got a great smile and her spin into curtsey animation is adorable
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>>572352975
i still find this event difficult to believe. captain had something so spicy it made him pass out which bell interpreted as her 'sleep' potion working. any of you spice addicts actually had something hot enough to knock you out?
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For some reason, all my favorite girls in this game have amber eyes.
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>>572352975
Eh, we're in the anger phase of Ryuko-chan's wild ride.
Anyways, Star Savior's expression game is pretty crazy. It's beyond weird that Petra is such a brick given how good her expressions are.
>>572360058
Bell is pretty cute for how weird and stinky she would be IRL.
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>>572352975
Bell's journey is peak brat correction.
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>>572383136
i mean, muriel literally got hit by an electric wire in her journey and had captain gaslighting her into believe she was actually hearing lord gaph talk to her, so...i think she got more brat correction than bell. it's just than bell's correction was actually successful
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in the unlikely case that you're applying a a GUILD, reminder to add a /vg/ related tag to your message/bio
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Anyone here using attack build Annah? Is it worth it to build her like this?
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>>572385245
Bell has a genuine change of heart and starts behaving properly. Muriel keeps getting cartoonishly injured and I don't recall being convinced she learned her lesson. She's a stubborn one.
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>>572386294
Annah works incredibly well with W.Carmen. The tricky part is building her to have more attack than your dealer of choice, but if you're willing to do that then she's well worth investing in
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New Tier list is out
>Rosaria: SS to S
>Carnelia: S (PvP only)
>Besta: A
>Vera: A
>wEpindel: Will move from S to SS if she continues to be strong
>Fei: Will move from S to SS if she continues to be strong
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i got to the point where i can start locking in my lvl 200s in star link, but my stingy ass doesn't wanna waste a permanent slot. From a pure metafaggotry standpoint, which three girls will i get the most bang for my buck (Waltz is already locked in)?
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>>572390949
Roberta, bClaire and bFrey
Or swap bFrey out for Bell if you PvP
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>>572390949
>Waltz is already locked in
would be a pick anyways
>Bell
useful debuffs
>Roberta
anti-AOE is a decent niche
>last slot
dunno, i think you can make a case for BClaire, BFrey, maybe even Lugh since debuffs on basic is (for now) a legit niche
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>>572390949
Lock in Trish or you're a bitch
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>>572390949
Wait for rebalance update, they might fuck up and make Trish, Harley or Epindel SS tier like Clarissa
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>Be stuck on Order deer fight
>Finally clear it with the 12% boost (and only just)
>Another Order deer fight nine floors later
Fuck me. Guess I'll try again in (at least) nine days
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>>572394152
Good times...
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>>572366481
Some people do feel dizzy when they eat something very spicy, and people have died from too much spice. I gueeeeesssss being knocked out is possible?
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>page 10
Punished Asherah...won...
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star savior is the best turn-based game
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>>572408024
amongst gacha games with an original IP, probably
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>>572390307
SR Scarlet is pretty fucking strong too
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>>572411093
Oh? Any tips for building her?
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>>572390307
>Besta A
>Vera A
Are their stellar blooms THAT good?
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>>572414830
I think they're getting a boost because of how much free CP they give from the imprint items. The Clarissa that I geared from scraps has the same amount of CP as my MUB3+1 BChar.
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>>572413659
I've built her with crit set, just the standard shit.
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>>572416793
Imprint?
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>>572386294
imo, atk Annah and W.Carmen work well till it doesn't. As in, when the cp difference is too big that the bitch ass boss and mooks can eat through Annah's shield and health faster than W.Carmen can produce them. I got tired and just swapped to hp Annah and she's really good like that. Trying to make this tank outscale your dps in atk, without gimping said dps is too much of a pain. Also combat power. Fuck combat power and whoever thought of this stupid concept and the morons that implemented it need to be torn apart like that girl in the hitcher
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>>572421971
So who do you put frontline with Annah then? People always say W Carmen but I get scared because she also takes the split damage, or is it not an issue so long as a defender takes most of the heat?

And how does tank Annah compare to Emily?
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Is there a reason why people are pushing Annah so hard?
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>>572424678
She's a Defender you can get to max merge easily and as the other anons were talking about she can pair extremely well with Bridal Carmen if built correctly. Also she's very cute.
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>>572425375
>max merge
What's merge?

Also the "if built correctly" seems to be making people struggle. It sounds like it might be better if you just don't include a DPS at all?

Would someone with life steal or can heal off a burst skill be easier to work with, like bunny Charlotte or Carnelia?
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>>572419306
>>572427570
the dupes. the first three dupes level your passive, the next seven give stats.
for SR->SSRs, you can just buy items from the shop to hit +7, so it's a lot of free stats.
>>572424678
1. cute
2. there's a gap for a red PvE defender
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>>572428001
I know Harley can't actually tank at all (I hope balance patch gives her something) but Hilde should be able to do it too right?
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>>572428001
>1. cute
>2. there's a gap for a red PvE defender
harley/hilde bros btfo?
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>>572428374
She kind of can, but her kit has a lot of PvP only stuff.
Like, you don't really need to jump in front of allies in PvE since the defender is getting targeted all the time. Same for taunt.
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>>572428543
Harley will get huge massive heaving bouncing buffs. You'll see.
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>>572428791
I'll fucking kill you. Harley's flat is perfection!
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>>572428589
if hilde could somehow reapply that barrier she gives to everyone at the start of battle, i think she'd be way better. but then again, it is faithful-ish to her kit in cs. thing was, this was an on deploy effect you could do with hilde anytime in cs, so it was a tool you could use mid battle to beef up your team there. in a turn based game...doesn't work so well past turn 1 if you can't retrigger it. see dhpt or aventurine in hsr for actual working shield tanks
>but those are guys-
that is exactly how hoyo made you pull for them if you wanted an actual working tank for your team. sad fu xuan noises
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>>572429231
I said buffs. Her breasts will remain tiny flat unmoving and static, and that's a good thing.
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>>572429861
Its not same but Castoria in FGO is also infamous for this. Her ult gives everyone a form of hit based invincibility that shrugs off most attacks but only for a limited amount of hits. The best tank teams are ones that help feed Castoria her ult so she keeps applying it and you barely take damage if at all.
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>>572428791
>>572429868
keep the flatties flat. giving them boobs is what killed snowbreak
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>>572430468
I dunno if that's what killed Snowbreak but Anchor Panic was one I tried a couple times and the sudden breast size increases by double or more from one version of a character to the next triggered me. There was one girl who when from A/B cup to E in her bunny suit costume, not even an alt.
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>>572430829
>>572430468
I thought it was Chinese feminists reporting the game to the CCP and having an inquisition to see if it contains material that is contrary to the party line that killed it.

It went on forced hiatus for I think 2 months and no one could log in, not was there any news, updates or content during that time. When the inquisition ended, Snowbreal had to censor itself because all the fanservice was deemed harmful to social values and the feminists got what they wanted.

That being said, the game still has uncensored outfits in the game files. You just need a mod that swaps the files around to restore it, so its mostly a slap on the wrist punishment.
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>>572430379
It was kind of similar in that barriers in Counterside didn't let damage overflow; so 1 hp of barrier could tank a single hit, no matter how huge. So, it would often be better to bring a different tank, but there were situations where Hilde was absolutely necessary.
But, from the little that I played FGO, Castoria is kind of in a league of her own.
>>572429861
>Fu Xuan
It's kind of crazy how cursed she was in retrospect. She had a really narrow window of being able to sustain.
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>>572429861
>uber defenders on this game have barrier on special
>Hilde had barrier on special in Counterside
>has barrier on ult instead here
>isn't an uber defender
The solution is clear.
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Seriously what was the logic for making Harley a defender with no healing or barrier? She also scales off SPEED of all stats but isn't naturally fast because she's a tank.

What the fuck were they thinking? What are you supposed to do with her?
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>>572440305
>be fast
>speed up allies
>slow down enemies
>get hit less often so don't need as much help tanking
>kill boss before boss kills you
I would assume this was the logic. Game systems don't really allow it to work tho.
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>>572440305
Not to mention speed doesn't actually go that high so her speed scaling gives her basically nothing.
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>>572441225
Annoyingly a lot of bosses have ways of cheating their action gauge so slowing enemies down doesn't really matter.

...Wait is Harley a PVP character? Was that the intention?
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>>572440305
the vibe i get is
>Star Savior launches
>Defenders have no priority targeting
>All defenders are bad
>Harley is inline with other defenders
>They add priority targeting
>Haydee saved
>They release Emily as a big big bandaid on the concept
E.g. Harley is from a "we didn't test shit" era
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Panties
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>>572443682
Stunning and brave
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>>572442435
Makes sense. How they released the game in the state it was in will never not be baffling.
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>>572442435
Defenders didn't have aggro at launch? Holy shit what was the fucking point then? But that does explain things because Harley CANNOT take hits at all.
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bros...
https://youtu.be/n0Saz06yWQU?si=dTb9Kj4i2cKQpmHZ
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>>572446462
>dudes
no
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>>572446462
Arca has been playing it and pretending that it's star savior since (apparently) they both get shortened to "SuSe".
>partial dubbing for characters
>except the cat, which is fully dubbed
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What influences the star blessing an arxhive will get? I assume its based off the stats you finalise on but like...

>get 800 STR
>come out with 40 STR blessing
>get 1250 ATK
>10 focus, take it or leave it

I know you can reroll but its just 3 differenr versions of shit
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>>572446793
Bullet used to have a page where he did 100 runs with Smile. It's all rng, with a slight lean toward the stat you max out.
Remember to send in something to customer service calling Ryu a nigger for wasting your time. In Korean. The survey doesn't count. Those go straight into the dumpster.
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>>572446462
>males
>uglier art style and character designs
>no sailors or sailor uniforms
Eww, might hurt Star Savior if people mistake one for the other.
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>>572447018
>max out
So hitting 1100 isn't enough, it HAS to be 1250? Damn, harsh.
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>>572446462
this shit is going to crash and die before the year even ends most likely. the only upcoming competition for star savior is chasing kaleidorider and astrae oratio. and thats if bside doesn't manage to kill star savior first
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>>572447664
'HAS' is a strong word. it doesn't guarantee a thing. it just improves your odds...by a very low percent. thats the worst thing about the whole journey systems and its rngs, not a thing is guaranteed. the UP training you want? rng. the events you get? rng. the shop items? rng. the relics? rng. the starlight trajectory skill you get in the end? rng. your final archive's blessing?
rng
absolute brilliant game design
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>>572448065
>chasing kaleidorider
The recent PV looked like shit, they completely killed the motorbike identity to turn it into more overdesigned fantasy garbage.
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>>572442435
Luna looks so much better without her stupid hat
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>>572449479
THE HAT STAYS ON DURING SEX
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This time for real we're one day off finding out what the buffs are. Most of them seem pretty straightforward since they're dps that just don't do enough damage but Harley and Seira are the wildcards. Harley they could possibly double down on her being some sort of dps defender with a bunch of utility but more likely she's just gunna get a bunch of sustain to make her more like Haydee/Emily. Seira I dunno what they're aiming for here. She's a strong pick in pvp because of her special but outside of that she's kinda weak. Of course the trouble is how would you buff her to be useful after doing her action gauge boost without adding too much to her pvp value.
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asherah blowjobs fat ugly old bastards in public restrooms
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>>572453973
>Harley being a DPS defender
The "problem" with that is that defenders have aggro by default. You'd have to use another defender to spread the damage, and Harley would also probably need to be in the back. Which means she'd have to bring way more to the team than "doing good damage for a defender"

Just slapping "also this gives you barrier" onto her skills would the laziest and mkat simple solution but its possibly not enough. Most defenders also have barrier on burst basic skill but Harley already has a 15% action gauge reduction on that. Barrier plus turn delay mjght be too much? Then again, the speed starlight trajectory (25% chance to get additional 10% action gauge after basic attacks) really doesn't fit anyone right now and she's the one who scales off speed so maybe you do actually want to encourage this?
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>>572448367
Nta but is there prerequisite for stuff like +40-50? Highest I’ve gotten is +35.
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>>572458020
It's RNG but you do need to get 1250 in that stat during the journey, so hard mode as minimum.
Once you start minmaxxing journeys, stats don't matter as much as parenting talents and skills
I use the +30 one here more than the +50s because it has talent of insight.
I have about 6 level 50 parents but they're useless if they don't also proc good skills.
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>>572456394
Harley is such a weird kit no matter what angle you look at it, but it gets even stranger when you factor in her hog, Dave. This thing is a fully modelled and animated creature, that is tied to her nearly at the hip, in both lore and gameplay-wise with how involved it is in her attack animations. She really should have been some kind of hsr remembrance-like character, with Dave being a separate summon-like entity on the action bar that did the tanking and some basic auto-attack per turn. Have them work together, like Dave gets barrier/healing when Harley skills/ults, and when Dave gets attacked, Harley gets a slight turn advance and atk buff that stacks, giving some kind of synergy/turn-cycling. Idk, just trying to make sense of wtf the devs were thinking when designing her kit, and how it would make more sense if done differently, unsure if better
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>>572462563
They should remove the pig entirely, I know I'm being harsh but it puts me off using her, because well...you just know.
That sort of shit just doesn't work in harem gachas.
As for her kit they should just change her into a striker and she can be red Clarissa.
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>>572462697
I was thinking supporter since her damage is meh and her whole thing is soeed fuckery, plus she gives the higest ATK red person 3 stacks of ignition on her skill.

If it makes you feel better, Dave must have his own pigwife since he has kids in Harley's journey
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>>572462697
>because well...you just know
??? nah nigga, i don't. wtf are you thinking that i ain't? on god, is bro too conditioned by irl women that he thinks all females, fictional included, fuck their pets? did you watch aladdin and thought jasmine was getting dicked by the tiger or something? do you think asta gets pounded by peppy in hsr? holy hell...
and like >>572465057 said, harley's journey has an event where it's revealed Dave has a whole litter of kid boars in the forest
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>>572465627
>is bro too conditioned by irl women that he thinks all females, fictional included, fuck their pets
Do you live in a bubble? They usually do if they own a big pet. There are fuck all coomer gachas where girls are tied to big animals for this very reason, because the stigma will always be there.
I'm not saying it's all pets, but women who own big animals tend to get freaky. I come to play coomer gachas to get away from 3DPD degeneracy and I'm reminded of it instead. It's so prevalent even anime reference it now.
I get they tried to make her boar look friendly like boota from TTGL (with the glasses and all), but it doesn't stop the YJK accusations as long as it's big enough to overpower her small frame.
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>>572466292
Holy mindbroken
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>>572466292
Bro just admit you're into bestiality instead of being im denial about it. You'll be happier that way.
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>>572466292
your brain has rotted beyond belief
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How would the main story have gone if Danchou got sent down the Epindel Route instead?
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>>572473915
....Is Asherah still most probably the witch of favoritism and she's mad she's getting cucked, or is Epindel the witch too?
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>>572473915
unlike the virgin of strannis, the hawk of orlan does not hesitate and spares no quarry. by the time of ep.5, the villains would be doubly seething, as gille would be irate at tyria too busy being a monastir patriot to care about executor shit, and evil asherah would be mad at the levels of cucking happening in this cycle, as epindel and captain would be engaged with epindel busy planning their wedding despite captain trying to focus on the journey first while fighting the knights, probably with frey trying to upsell them on using a venue in monastir with carmen and charlotte trying to rein her in. we may have even gotten a 'meet the family' arc, with one of epindel's siblings (to contrast epindel, maybe an older, taller but flat-chested girl, like malkuth from BA) hating captain and epindel, deriding and trying to break the couple up, only to get one upped and eventually fall for captain and semi-respecting epindel, spending the rest of the story half-protective of the couple and half trying to steal captain for herself

only win for asherah fans is the wedding event would have had asherah as one of the characters. but since its just playing dress-up, is it really a win?
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>>572477818
It's nice that Epindel is getting love now. This is what alts should strive to accomplish.
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>>572484350
With the exception of Clarissa, all the SRs were at the bottom of the popularity poll. Should they all get alts? I wouldn't really mind myself
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>>572484792
Popularity poll was just a tier list. But yeah, every girl should get an alt eventually to try and introduce them all to players, and/or give players a new look at every girl. Epindel's base design is iffy; I suspect a lot of players didn't notice her until the wedding version but the character was already well written so now she has lots of fans. Alts for other overlooked girls could do similar turn arounds.
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>>572485614
Actually now that I think about it, when you mention character design that's one of the issues with alts. It kind of kills character design. Like, you only see the costume you know?
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>>572466292
>scared of getting cucked by a pet
We're reaching levels of ML never before seen...
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>>572484792
>Should they all get alts?
Seems pretty likely. Since it would save on development costs.
Though, I feel like it's not good that we already have alts for:
>main trio (after summer)
>monastir faction
>2/4 of candle square
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>>572466292
I thought I was in the BD2 thread when I saw refreshed and saw this post
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>>572446462
>bullet streaming it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSE-ZQ034wY
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>>572488205
>it kinda kills character design
>you only see the costume
I can't say I agree. I suppose I have seen alts in other games that change too much and suddenly the original design is replaced. You do want to avoid that. But I also like seeing the girls be multifaceted, they shouldn't be wearing the same outfit and same hairstyle 24/7. I think Star Savior is threading the needle fairly well so far.
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They should make it so alts share the same affection/resonance level with their base savior
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>>572484792
>>572488205
my only problem with alts in ss, is the journey story is the exact same with only one different event near the end. i wish the alts had a bit more difference in story to them. i don't just want one event where claire in a bunny outfit pressed up against a glass tank while a slime is dissolving her clothes. i want an event where she's trying to teach how to blend in at a club, unintentionally pole dancing for captain. i want an event where captain is playing a poker game against her, trying to learn card hands while claire is unintentionally giving him an eyefull of her bod. just give me more. otherwise it feels mostly like the character is wearing some costume that is not cannon to the journey story and doing near the exact same plot as normal. like imagine we get negligee carnelia as an alt, and we have to still go through her journey story, with claire and bell mad at her for leaving, all the while she's standing in a fucking babydoll?
>>572492297
i don't really care about different sides so long as the character is the same. in fgo, melusine is still an ultra powerful jet fighter-dragon hybrid that is in love with you, enough to kill gods, whether she's in her normal or beach outfit or literally anything. on the bit of alts that have changed too much, imo hsr sparkle is a victim of that. sparkle was amazing and one of the best hsr characters but heavily underutilized, but when she became sparxie, she became cringe with all this youtuber/streamer talk, plus the new design was meh in comparison to the og.
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>>572494419
>all the while she's standing in a fucking babydoll?
Hot
I understand your concerns. More is almost always better. With the combination of new alts and new Arcanas, they should be able to put out a good amount of new and unique stories for each girl.
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>>572494419
That's something that's good about BA alts, they all get a whole new set of momos.
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>>572355346
>has giant sharp scissors to cut through anything
>her ultimate is just summoning a dumb pinball for le casino feel
such a waste of char design
why not just copy lilibet from epic seven
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>>572503478
>why didn't they copy x
Because they were too busy copying Eliza
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>realize I'm not gonna have enough time to get the Roberta quests done by tomorrow
>guess I'll have to finally use a Telescope to get my stamina back
>60 willpower
The fuck is this!? 60?? They guard these Telescope items with their dev's lives and they only give 60 willpower?? Stupid ass devs!
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>>572474542
>hairstyle like ahserah
>bodily proportions like asherah
>part in the op where asherah's hair turns blue-gray then cuts to the witch of favoritism
It's either asherah herself or an ancestor of hers
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>>572518489
dumbass, did you not check the context? he wasn't talking about the actual evil asherah we have in the main story.
>>572474542 was responding to a hypothetical about what the main story would have been like if white captain went the epindel route. he was asking if in this scenario, is asherah still the witch of favoritism or is it an older cycle epindel now
"media literacy is dead. media literacy remains dead. and we have killed it." - Friedrich Nietzsche, likely in some cycle, probably as an anime girl, hopefully a flattie
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>>572515524
yeah, but look at the upside. you posted a great reaction image.
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it was still open like 2 days ago.
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asking for clarity, Scarlet is holding back because she's trying to be a human friendly dragon right? i feel like if Claire actually hit on an actual sensitive topic or sour spot for Scarlet, Claire would totally lose against the Bellarmini clan's successor...because she is a fucking dragon. am i wrong? also it is insane the two playable dragons (Scarlet and Lacy) have never interacted yet as far as i know
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>>572462697
Making Dave female will fix the problem entirely. It's par for the course for a non harem writer/enjoyer to not take this kind of thing into account. Another missed opportunity is they made Emily's mercenary captain and Roberta's respected superior as a male and NPC.
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>>572531023
>Captain must be the only male in the world or I'll shit and piss myself
Even Blue Archive has male NPCs, get NTR'd faggot
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Buff notes doko?
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>>572530969
I think the tard to wrangler relationship is mostly psychological
>also it is insane the two playable dragons (Scarlet and Lacy) have never interacted yet as far as i know
Yeah, I was expecting a scene, but it just seems like Lacy doesn't give a fuck about anything that isn't a book
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>>572530969
Scarlet ran away from home and was gracefully given a job at Candle Square from off the street effectively. She's doing her best to fit in and help the puny humans that helped her. Job wise obviously Claire is far more competent than any of her coworkers so she has to tardwraggle them. Powerlevel wise Scarlet would have more destructive power and certainly more potential but she's still young for a dragon and doesn't have mastery of her abilities yet.
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Stop bullying her...
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>>572537692
She's bullying this thread
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>>572555936
AI?

Do you think Fei would prefer an eastern style wedding dress though?
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>>572556052
yeah, its from Arca. Koreans love AI porn.
I'm not sure Fei has preferences other than commander cock and martial arts.
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>>572556636
>Koreans love AI porn
Makes a lot of sense given the laws of their land.
I could see Fei wanting something unique which could mean a Western style dress or a mixture. Obviously it would need to be easy enough to move around in to demonstrate the Celestial Arts.
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Star Sailor is way better
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>>572530969
I think Scarlet is still immature by dragon standards and not that powerful overall. Lacy on the other hand is seemingly as powerful as dragons get and could probably solo all four of the main candle square girls.
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>>572560981
Dragons are weak as hell then given the gap between her and Rosaria.
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... Is Muriel not also a dragon? Between the horns and her fire-based skillset I just kinda assumed she was, but maybe I missed them saying she's actually demonkin or something, somewhere.
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>>572561132
Power levels in Counterside seem to go way way higher than Star Savior and Rosaria is a freak of nature even there.
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>>572561528
I kind of thought she was a demon considering her casual and constant blasphemy, although she is still a true believer in the end



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