>Guidehttps://www.bungie.net/en/Guide/Destiny2>Destiny Risinghttps://www.playdestinyrising.com/>NewsTWID (6/18): https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid_06_18_2026Update 9.7.0.2: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/destiny_update_9_7_0_2Destiny 2 End of Service: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/d2_may_21_2026 >ResourcesDIM: https://app.destinyitemmanager.com/Destiny Report: https://destiny.report/Armor Picker: https://d2armorpicker.com/API: https://www.light.gg/Stats: https://destinytracker.com/Braytech: https://braytech.org/PressKits: https://press.bungie.com/Destiny-2Checkpoint Bots: https://d2checkpoint.com/Popularity Report: https://popularity.report/>TTK, Buffs/Debuffs, DPS, etc...https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/Previous: >>572072896
Amanda edition
piss
>GET THOSE MOTES IN THE BANK>retard keeps gathering more until he has 15 when we needed 4
I like Michael Salvatori's music more than I do Martin's.
>finally got the jotunn catalystneat
ERAMIS HATESAINT SHOULD FINISHED THE JOB IN RIIS
>>572267185As do most people with actual taste
>>572267185based halo music hater
>>572267185How do you even differentiate between the 2? Almost everything that involved Martin also had Michael, one seems to have retired from composing and most of Destiny 2's music isn't anything to write home about.
>still havent gotten the competitive armor for my other two characters Fuck. I suppose I should do that before things get worse
>"no one uses moon weapons"kneelhttps://x.com/A_dmg04/status/2053919851388018690
>>572269462Worse?
>>572268692>>572269305>>572269404The best tracks in D2 were just ripoffs of Marty tracks. Michael's best work was TTK soundtrack. D2 music has always been suboar and never hit the Destiny mark.
>>572270024where did Eris get the feathers from on the moon
>>572270167Nta but once the team is truly gone after that early July date, cheaters are just going to be unopposed. I already had one in a cropta raid noclipping around and 1-tap instakilling everything.
>>572270024the new arc logic with overflow jolting feedback is good doe
Marty humiliation ritual
>>572270345Personally I prefer Rise of Iron's OST to The Taken King's, nothing from the latter really stuck with me but I still listen to some tracks from the former every so often.
why on earth is shieldburst an aspect and not just how Sunbreaker's barricades work by default?
>me with my Truth
>>572270167Yeah. Theres cheaters as an anon said but also the longer we go the smaller the population will become. Theres still some people casually grinding out for the armor so I may as well join them before things get more sweaty I guess or have to deal with poor matchmaking times
whats the game population looking like right now? steadily dropping? still holding above 90k?
>>572270740He just keeps winning though
>>572271283Surprisingly steady. Dropping of course, but solid
>>572267046Seeing shit like this makes me think of that LotR quote every faggot misquotes nowadays about how evil can't create, only destroy
please drop your shield.
>>572272938been bugged for 7 years sis
>>572271475i thought it would crater after 24 hours
>>572272676That's a dumb quote anyway because the most evil man on Earth, created the greatest fucking shopping and delivery website ever
>>572270740What are you talking about?
>>572273349Guess I hadn't need to run it for years so that checks out.Cool that the last season focuses on public events, yay.
>absolute bums won't even look for the corruptions despite the giant DESTROY THE CORRUPTIONS in red text on their screensThis playerbase deserves NOTHING
>>572273647With the tech oligarchs I always question if the money and power is what made them evil or if they were like that from the beginning. Starting out, while they were already eating from a silver spoon, they were just trying to grow an idea they had in an active market, and it was the ultimate success of that idea that grew them into the self-service piece of shit all of them became
>>572274915Rich people don't become evil, evil people become rich.To be hyper successful requires the crushing and grinding of human souls.Some rare ones just regret it a little more.
>>572271475i think it'll stay in the 70-90k range for 2-3 more months before people burn out and give up on itunless there's a massive grassroots campaign for people word-of-mouthing thier friends back into it, this might be the last gaspEnjoy it while you can fellas.
>>572274841tbdesu the part that sucks about those is that they're either in the most obvious places possible or in the oddest, dumbest, weirdest out of the fucking way spots
>>572275215Yeah that's fair, the only valid alternative I think is hitting the lottery either the real one or by releasing some pixelslop game that blows up. Was his ex-wife evil before they got married? She seems to have done a lot of good in the world with his money post split
>>572275351It's nice on europa because the white makes them stick out more.Searching in like... the comsodrone with brown backgrounds is weird.
get to studying
>>572276036So... where's the comeback?
>>572276036study bros....
who the fuck is kruzer who the fuck is tahnitwho the fuck is kazuto
>>572276036More like a wentback, because it went back to its old numbers in two weeks.
>>572276265Together, they're known as The Raped.
>>572276265The raped.
>>572276339I was wrong. Turns out that it's BELOW its pre-season 2 numbers. June 25th saw the lowest 24-hour peak Marathon's ever had.
>>572276265I am <shocked> you forgot /ourguy/ Timbo
This retarded bullshit is a gambit to draw attention to Destiny and provide a pretext to sacrifice Marathon to save it.
>>572276945
>>572276945...a what?
>>572276945Anon... they wouldn't have laid off 400 employees most of which were working on Destiny if that was the case.
how do i get weapons from salvations edge without doing salvations edge?i want the chill clip sniper and have already done sedge a few times to get 3 red borders but no one runs sedge anymore
>>572276897These are the same people who screamed "you should have been supporting marathon!" during the "discussion."
>>572276724Its going to be very interesting to see Bungie try and survive without Destiny 2, now that their only money maker will come in the form of Silver purchases for whatever cant be exchanged with Bright Dust.
>>572276945>the raped on the field!>bring some lube>or don't, it's your choice>>572277141They'll hire them back in two weeks once the trap closes.Either that or they're downsizing in order to mend their ways and stop burning money.
I'm not a fan of the Fire and Ice mission. And I'm really not a fan of having to redo it
So either run a pulse or hand cannon or get fucked in the ass. Got it
>>572277438>bungie not burning moneyI don't think they know how to.
>>572273517It's going down the same way as any other update. That's why I was laughing when faggots thought they could save it by some retarded disingenuous login campaign on the 9th. This shit will just solidify Sony's decision to end the franchise, because it's the same kind of dropoff that sparked the decision in the first place.
>>572279325not playing your mobile games, ramesh
So marathon failed and people will spam D3 for eternityWhen will sony cave in?
>>572279813They'll cave by raping Bungie into a support studio for Guerilla
>>572279529>I'm not playing Destiny 2I never said to.
>incandescent firefly ringing nail
>using a primary in 2026>using a legendary primary in 2026
>double special trannydont you a dick to cut off
Legendary primarys actually feel good in current meta to use for ad clear than what it was during the shadowkeep period
>>572277291please respond
ACADEMICSPLEASE RESPOND
uhm...
>>572277438>They'll hire them back in two weeks once the trap closes.Anon... that isn't going to happen, and you know it.
>>572281073Unless it's like Last Wish that has secret chests you can access AND drop raid gear despite not doing any encounter, you don't. Now I don't know if it is, but I doubt it.Otherwise you need to solo Megamind I suppose?
>>572281073people will run salvation edging when it's the weekly focus
>>>>>>>using your special to kill redbars in 2026this isn't fucking lightfall nigga
What's the problem with primaries killing things anyway
>>572281638>using your special to kill redbars in 2026Yeah haha... imagine returning to the game and playing Lawless Frontiers and needing to dump 5 crits into a redbar with a handcannon... haha... ha...
>>572281909You need to have a light delta of 6,000,000 in all serious content otherwise it's not Challenging and Watchable.
>>572279813>When will sony cave in?hopefully neverbungie's reputation is burnedits overthey could announce d3 right now, hire back all the devsall the veterans announce $500+ mil budget and it wouldnt matterthey threw out, burned, pissed on and laughed at their fans, their community, their legacy, their reputation, their good willits donepeople are raped enough to buy it and play itbut not enough to keep it alive as a live service.its just too late.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vu3ua1QgyVcIt's up
>>572277416>Its going to be very interesting to see Bungie try and survive without their money-sucking black hole that almost killed them in the first place
>>572285053Buy an ad.
y'know... i've been studying the comeback for a while now...
>>572285226But enough about Marathon.
>>572285226Speaking of money-sucking black holes anon
>>572286045That pays for 10000 employees in the seattle areaeasy
Moved onto marathon yet guise?
>>572286279everyone and their mum did, lad
Any other red borders I should still try my hand at getting?>>572265449>>572266226Thanks.
>>572285226marathon?I don't think marathon is dead yet dude
>>572285226I don't think they shut off Marathon development yet.
>>572286413Marathon is dead in 2 years I think.
I'm the Häkke man, I speak for the Häkke. He told me to kill all those damn ayliens walking around my tower.
>>572286437I'm not sure where it's from now but Subjunctive is a strict upgrade to the ikelos smg. Optative is also a good alternative to word of cropta if you're not a raider. Also I don't know if people still farm Kali for drops but that's a stupidly easy raid encounter that can get you every single last wish red border, a few of which have been buffed and are arguably still meta
>>572286752Bungie isn't surviving the year
What happened to nightfalls? The only thing I've found that's similar is Master Fireteam Ops and those were piss easy compared to the 25 minute long drag that was playing Nightfall that I'm not sure I chose the right mode.
>>572287526seasonal conquest
>>572286279
>>572287605I refuse to believe anyone actually thinks this looks good
>>572286437That guy is debil. The Haunted weapons are from Presage, not Nightmare Containment (which is arena ops, not pinnacle ops).
>>572285942>>572286045>>572286445>>572286621>Microsoft refused to acquire Bungie in 2020, defining the studio as a "money pit">Pete Parson was forced to lay off over 17% of Bungie in 2024>This is somehow Marathon's faultcope
is the Crackshot aspect a meme? I can't find a single good use for it
>>572288437>Microsoft refused to acquire Bungie in 2020, defining the studio as a "money pit">Marathon and other projects started in 2019I'm not sure if you're baiting or not.
Here's your periodic reminder that we committed false surrender (perfidy) in Seraph's Shield, which is a war crime.
Crazy to think that destiny is truly dead and buried now. In a couple years nobody will know what the fuck destiny is except some late twenties/30+ uncs
>>572288760cool
>>572288584Yes Bungie was a money pit because Marathon has a skeleton crew in conceptual phase, not because Destiny and Destiny 2 had operating costs the likes of which made them huge underperformers and they only lived off scamming publishers from Activision to Sony>NOOOOOO YOU CAN ONLY POST TASSI WHEN HE'S SEETHING ABOUT MARATHON EXISTING
>>572288437You're so fucking retarded it hurts. When do you think Bungie started working on marathon?
>>572288940Yes thanks for confirming what was already said, Bungie killed their game's profitability in Lightfall onward.
>>572288940FUCKING DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOWEVERYBODY KNOWS DESTINY MADE ALL THE MONEY AND MARATHON STOLE IT DELETE THIS NOW NOWWWWWWW
>>572288940>operating costsretards choose to directly ignore that those "operating costs" were funding the development of marathon and 5+ other games, along with growing the studio to 1600 people, building a new massive office in one of the highest cost-of-living areas in the US, and starting construction on another such office overseas.But no we can't mention that, it wouldn't fit the narrative
I don't know why people here cope about Destiny not being a money pitIt most definitely was.But the thing is, if Destiny was indeed a money pit, then what does that make Marathon?A money black hole?
>>572288760And that's a good thing!
>>572288940>>572289074>He replied to himself AHAHAHAHAH holy fuck this is grim
>>572288940Anon, what do you think those projections were based on?
>>572289039>When do you think Bungie started working on marathon?Around after the 2th year in a row Destiny 2 was missing its revenue projections lolOr you think it was lightfall specifically that made Destiny 2 flop?>>572289081>retards choose to directly ignore that those "operating costs" were funding the development of marathon and 5+ other gamesNo, the operating costs relate exclusively to Destiny 2 and Destiny 2 alone
>>572288648Here's your reminder that none of the participants (the vanguard, the hive, the fallen and the witness) are signatories to any of our old earth war treaties.
>>572289497>No, the operating costs relate exclusively to Destiny 2 and Destiny 2 aloneyes, as I said, <Retards>you didn't need to post an example for us
Lol why is the maratroon here seething? Is /mg/ that dead
>>572289202don't bully him man, he's lonely and depressed
>>572289583>Microsoft was considering buying Bungie before they even parted ways with Activision, saw the operating costys and NOPEd the fuck out>This is somehow because of Marathon development, which is totally the "operating costs" of Destiny btwYou faggots are truly retarded
>>572288542It's a nice aspect. >doesn't change cooldown>makes your dodge deal fairly decent damage (counts as ability damage for buildcrafting)>heavy scorch, combos with other abilities into an ignition>feeds into itself with singeing>heals you just for hitting enemies>makes your dodge usable in midair (titans and warlocks on suicide watch)More importantly, it has no competition because gunpowder gamboon is mid and knock 'em down is trash. There's no reason not to take it.
>>572289982maratroon, there is no need to double down. You already demonstrated the whole "retards can't read or understand things" for everyone to see. Don't worry though, Sony is fully committed to supporting your game, that's why they specifically highlighted it on their live service banner oh wait...
>>572289982>be retard>quote journo>he thinks I won't check it>said article literally disproves you
>>572286752Season 10 will fix everything
>>572290265Oh no no no maraxister...
>>572290201I accept your concession lol
>Destiny 2 Budget: $500m>Revenue: $3-4 billion >Marathon Budget: $300m>Revenue: $90m LMFAO
>>572290142Thruster can be used in mid air now chudBut anyway I like Crackshot because it plays right into my favorite part of Hunter. Although I barely play Hunter.>>572288542I'm told it's good with Lustrous if you're just looking for survivability. Not the fastest but consistent maybe. Have to look into it a bit more.
>>572290472yes, which is why the studio changed the development path, launched much more successful expansions, funded marathon and 5+ other games, built a new office in one of the highest cost-of-living areas in the US, and started construction on one overseasAre you also autistic about amazon selling more than books because that's what they started off doing as well
>>572290265>we now knowilliterate retard, Marathon didn't start development until after 2022btw Activision decided to split from Bungie because Destiny was not profitable in fucking 2018 but I bet that was Marathon sucking all funds and Bungie dry right ? lol>>572290472
The maratroon is here because xir literally ran away from the /v/ thread btw
It's pathetic in an almost cute way how they're not welcome literally anywhere.
>>572290619Bungie did all this with Sony money, certainly not with the huge money Destiny was making while a thousand developers were working on it for relatively mediocre numbers
>>572290650>Marathon didn't start development until after 2022I'm not sure where you get off just lying.
>still giving the obvious as fuck bait attentionbro probably isn't even into marathon. he's most likely just a general hopping fag looking for any thread with high activity trying to farm (You)'s via """""""trolling"""""""" since it's the only way he knows how to get erect anymore.
>>572290506>made up numbers
This dude really just said they started development on marathon in 2022 and thinks anyone will fall for it
>>572290821Forsaken through the Witch Queen inclusive was when Bungie was independent. It's almost shocking hearing a marasissy call 2 million unique daily users mediocre numbers but I guess it's par for the course when they live so far outside of reality.
>mongoloids arguing about whether marathon or destiny caused bungie to die when it's clearly because bungie is fundamentally lazy, retarded and evil regardless of what game they're working on
Must be a slow day
>>572290834>Marathon is Bungie's first major new title since becoming a subsidiary of Sony Interactive Entertainment in 2022, and its first project in over a decade following the Destiny series.[17] Bungie revealed Marathon at the PlayStation 2023 Showcase on May 24, 2023.[18][19] In August 2024, Bungie underwent a restructuring, resulting in the layoff of approximately 17% of its workforce, which impacted the development timeline of Marathon.[20] Development has spanned more than 4 years, and involved over 300 developers.[21]Marathon had less than a third of the workforce of Destiny 2 and was in development for only 4 years.
only another few weeks and the eol tourists will fuck off back to their holes
>>572291164*yawn emote*
Marateen, both things can be true at once, and you're missing the big picture.250mil dollars on Marathon as a whole is a lot of money for a multiplayer only game that didn't even require a new engine, that re-used existing assets and animations and launched with 4 maps.$250mil indicates extensive re-works or something fundamentally wrong with Bungie development, and we know that's true because we've had signs of that with Destiny.what you can't deny is that Destiny doesn't make money. It makes probably a lot, but Bungie is just generally so much of a firepit when it comes to money that developing was still returning negatives.You don't fix that problem by making a game that fails to make back its initial budget on launch, and then continues to underperform as a live service videogame that might be costing more than its making, by an even bigger negative margin than Destiny did.
>>572291150is he grabbing his dick with his left hand?
>>572288380Thank you for correcting me, i remember the haunted weapons dropping from presage but idk why i thought they wouldnt drop menagerie calus ones.
I don't know what the fuck does Xur want, I've had a blinking marker since the day he arrived but he doesn't have anything special for me.
>>572291421You're assuming they can read and understand information. They can't (hence playing marathon)
>572291164Yep, he's baiting. He just copypasted a Wikipedia paragraph
>>572291465Probably a rank reset but your inventory is full so the golfball/orange thing is greyed out, just delete one from your inventory and reset him to get rid of it. I get the same from Hawthorn all the time
>>572291421>250mil dollars on Marathon as a whole is a lot of money for a multiplayer only game that didn't even require a new engineyou could argue it was worth it if they had built a new inhouse engine or trained 400 people to use ue5 or something.but they didnt...
>>572291092>They lasted almost 4 years before completely running out of money and the first layoffs of 17% of the workforce (which happened while Marathon was only 1 year in development but it's totally Marathon's fault for subtracting less than 300 developers and a third of the funds to the 800 to over a thousand developers MMO juggernautlolyour logic is all twisted, lay off the copium. Destiny was just a giant with feet of clay and actually what led to Bungie burning money, certainly not a much smaller game that wasn't even released before most layoffs
>>572291164>https://x.com/oryxeleven/status/2058327885924962598
>>572291421>250mil dollars on Marathonthings that never happened for 500
>>572291869Lol, great saint of wisdom, what is the budget for marathon?
>>572291707No one is arguing that bungie was not extremely mismanaged bro I don't understand why you're being a retard about this. Destiny alone financed marathon, a ton of other games that never saw the light of day, grew bungie to 1600 employees, built a huge new office, did all of that shit with no other sources of revenue. Destiny has always had this massive potential that bungie never managed to bring out because they're almost as retarded as you are, but instead of autistically spiraling with dates and random figures you made up, it was them forcing everyone to be gay and wasting all their money on humanitarian shit no one cares about. Anyways that's far too much effort for a maratroon so I'll just say>concession acceptedand you can fuck off back to your sperg out
Now all we're missing is estimated revenue charts based on app store ranking and valued in a made up currency.
>>572291869true kingthey did it for free
>he's a budget denier
>>572291869So what source do you have, genuinely, paul said like 200-250mil, and its the only info we've got as far as I'm aware
>>572291852>the trademark of Marathon was registered in early 2019lol k
HE DOESN'T KNOW THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL MARATHON ALSO MADE BY BUNGIE HOLY SHIT AHAHAHAH
Why are there people marketing marathon here? Go play your game. It needs the more players more than us lol
>>572291869>average burn rate of Bungo employee in Bellevue Washington = 15k a month>15k a month per employee is roughly $180k annual salary>400 developers = 15k * 400 = $6,000,000 a month>lets go with the 4 years of development>$6,000,000 * 48 = $288,000,000 on just developer wages>okay lets be generous and assume its actually $10k a month>well now its $192 million for dev wages>that isn't including marketing costs which on big releases are 50% of that dev wages cost added on top>That makes it $288,000,000 of a budgetSo yeah that $250 million range for how retarded Bungie are is completely plausible. Now don't try saying they made it on the budget of 4 jelly beans and a half eaten peanut, because that would out you as a retard.
>>572292183average bungie salary for the area they're in is <extremely conservatively> $80k/year, most likely more but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. 400 employees working on marathon at that rate is $32mil a year just in wages, marathon has been in development since 2019 as confirmed by Barrett, releasing in 2026 $224 million just in salaries. That is excluding any marketing/advertising, infrastructure costs for dedicated gameplay and matchmaking servers, office space, etc. I know math is hard for retarded mutts but most of us can easily estimate things with readily available information
>>572291852That confirms the rumors around Forsaken's annual pass that Bungie was working on something akin to Division's Dark Zone. It really does make it worse for Marathon, because it was in production for that long and now it's the only live service product Bungie has, and it isn't even close to breaking even.
>>572292065I don't know, do you?>>572292086>Destiny alone financed marathonDestiny didn't even finance itself>grew bungie to 1600 employees, built a huge new office, did all of that shit with no other sources of revenue. all for Destiny to proportionally grow and burn its own revenue, which is why 80% of these developers were all working on fucking Destiny>>572292183>paul said like 200-250milvague nonsense, is it 200 or 250mil? Sounds like nobody knows so I'll refute your random claim that Marathon costs half or even close to Destiny 2, a game with 500gb and fuckload of animated cutscenes
>>572292367Because they're desperately trying to catch any departing destiny players to replace their own hemorrhaging playercount.Ironically not only is this the worst time to try doing this, but destiny players would rather go almost literally anywhere else instead of marathon.
>>572292551>Division's Dark ZoneI'm going to repeat myself like a fucking retard but Old Chicago...
>>572292634concession accepted ramjeetpoornakar
>>572292484>>15k a month per employeemade up stuff>>400 developersmore made up stuff lol
The funniest part of all of this is that there is no exaggeration. There literally is ONE (1) marathon shill responsible for EVERYTHING on here and /v/
>>572292789>https://careers.bungie.com/jobs/5921280004/marathon-ui-ux-directorMaybe check their own website before outing yourself as a retard.
>>572292882It begs the question: has anyone here had a sane interaction with a marathon fan? Every one I've seen is either delusional or weirdly aggressive, if not both.
>"Can't" understand how wages workdamn, maybe Marty was right all along...
>>572292484Marathon had 300 developersalso no they don't get paid 15k a month, espeially the average code monkeyyou realize that by the same scalculations Destiny 2 budget for 4 years would be over a fucking billion (800 developers at the very minimum)
God I love handcannons.
what if they didnt spend all their time and money making seasons only to delete them in nine months?what if seasonal stories and game modes didnt become lost media?rape bungie.
>>572293145>picI knew a neopagan white supremacist who did almost this exact same thing, except he'd also throw in "wow that sounds dumb" every time he pretended to not understand something (eg: consent laws).
>>572293038>every single developer at Bungie is a directoryou are genuinely retarded
>>572280463>tfw got a Ringing Nail with dragonfly/incandescent in the third row and firefly/burning ambition in the fourthI don't know what combo to try first.Also can anyone recommend good set bonuses for Sunbreaker?
Marathon still hasn't passed 2m copies sold btw
>>572292634>Sounds like nobody knows so I'll refute your random claim that Marathon costs half or even close to Destiny 2, a game with 500gb and fuckload of animated cutscenesSo Paul isn't trustworthy at all? If we have a figure that he gives and then you turn around and say its "too vague", I don't know what to say. No one in the public, genuinely, not even CEOs of the companies keep track of the numbers down to the exact dollar value. We hear about it because we hear from people who hear from PMs and leads about budget estimations.200-250mil isn't a vague number, its a genuine number that would be told to a Bungie employee because they don't need know the exact number, they're not the accountants, they're honestly not involved with budgets as you'd believe.At what point also are you claiming Marathon is half of Destiny 2? It didn't launch at 500gb. If you compared Destiny 2 and Marathon it arguably might not be fair to Marathon because Destiny 2 probably has more assets to lean on more than Marathon did, and had more talent transfer from Destiny 1 and had stuff just waiting to be used.Like, I'm trying to be generous here and the problem still exists about the income vs burn of a live service. I don't think anyone believes that Marathon offsets its production and upkeep as a live service like Destiny 2 did. That's still the point we're trying to get across.The problem is the mismanagement. It's not alone with Destiny, Destiny is not some unique monolith of terrible management, the same people who fucked it are currently and have already fucked up Marathon.
>>572293352Anything solar I just default to the lustrous set but there are definitely better options especially if you want DR. The Pit, Grasp, VoG, Cropta, and Nessus sets are just generally very good and usable across pretty much all builds
>>572293459it did actually, 2 months ago
>Actually, the marathon was made for 25m dollars TOPS>Actually, it was a BIG hit
>>572293575Damn that's crazy. Source?
Marathon sure is one of the most STUDIED games of all time
>>572293660right here chud #rekt
>>572293660Ampere
>572293887lmao this faggot says tassi and other sources aren't reliable yet some other random 3rd party that isn't official is suddenly correct? bad faith fucking indians man
>>572293773If we're being honest? Marathon and Destiny 2 deserve to be studied as case studies in video game development, they're really fucking amazing for displaying a lot of problems you can run into. Marathon for just development and misunderstanding an audience, Destiny 2's perfect for live service bullshit.
>>572293351Anon that's at the high end of salaries. Imagine at the lower end where they get paid 120k a year, or even 80k if you want to be generous. That would 6k at the lower end or even 10k a month like Jason Schrier said was the average AAA game dev salary, those costs would add up very quickly for a game that was in production as long as Marathon. If anything it may even be the higher end as the studio is based in Bellevue, WA, 10-20 minutes from downtown Seattle.
>>572293201Alright then lets go with your assumption of 300 developers and a more modest burn rate of 10k a month over 4 years.>300 * 10k = $3,000,000>$3,000,000 * 48 = $144,000,000>Add marketing budget which is usually 50% for big releases and Bungie didn't skimp on the marketing budget for Marathon>$144,000,000 + 50% = $216,000,000Even though they moved more developers onto it during its development, not just a couple months ago it got actually higher than Destiny 2's development team. Now for fun lets calculate how much they burn a month.>400 employees now on the game>10k burn rate a month>$4 million a month>Multiply that by the 3 months per season and you get $12 million burnt in a season>Even if on average 1 million players spent $10 on the microtransactions that would only cover $10 million and doesn't break even>they also need to make a profit on thisEven with cut down numbers its still a failure lmao>>572293351Now how much do you think the average employee is getting paid? I already went with a modest 10k instead of 15k and still it was around the $250 million mark.
>Look up marathon sales>many articles from this month saying it only reached 1.5m copies >Zero mentioning 2m whatsoever, especially from months ago Hmmm
>>572294485you forgot>no official confirmation from Sony or Bungie
Lmao he fucking ran away
Any of these have something worth buying?
>>572278914Precision frame AR/SR, Adaptive AR, Lightweight SR, some Rapid AR's, Bows. All perfectly acceptable in red minigame and can easily put you on top of the chart against handcannon or PR users.
Destiny is profitable. Bungie isn't profitable. Marathon is a moneypit. End of story
Doomgods always win. Marasissies and their gaped holes tremble in terror at basic maths and bend over for us to rape them.
>>572295629Any AR recommendations? I like using them a lot. I have been using khovostov but recently went up against a guy using Trust who was 3 tapping my ass which made me reconsider my weapon of choice
>>572294064It's true the depth of fuck up is astonishing
>>572295398fuck no
>>572292484I've shat on marathon more than anyone here, but bungie's average salary is 89k, not 180k. So halve all of your initial numbers. Marathon had over 400devs working on it, closer to 800, for most of 2021-2024. Bungie moved people back to destiny for TFS, then reworked their entire studio division after SIE started moving their projects to other studios or cancelling them. Bungie had already fired about 600devs before it got to this point though. People forget that at one point 1400 devs were working on projects for bungie, not counting contractors.
did they code this to go through enemies legs 50% of the time?
>Ace of Spades counts as a Pale Heart weapon despite predating it by 6 years and only being tangentially related while Microcosm doesn't>Bastion gets the Dawn origin trait while Khvostov and Still Hunt don't get theirsFucking incompetents at Bungie.Still Hunt is marginal but Khvostov needed it.
>>572297465that's every grenade in my experience, or melee someone and you just glide past them
>>572297294The average is actually around 120k hence why I lowered it to 10k a month because the 15k schrier spouted of was a tad unrealistic I thought, and it was still a ridiculous sum at the end with 10k a month. Even if we went with 89k like you said it would be $142 million spent on just the wages which adding the marketing budget which is not cheap would push it past $200 million easily.
>>572297465grenade launcher projectile hit models are genuinely absolute fucking ass. Try latching 3 hits from anarchy on any non-massive target and half the time you'll maybe get one on with the other two just phasing right through them.ADS'ing can help a bit but even then it gets fucked.
The maraxissy died after I killed dredgen sere soloIs there any correlation to the two?
>LFG team gets filtered in DSC before we even get to the first encounterI genuinely wonder how some of these retards function daily
Wave GLs are great until they interact weirdly with geometry because there's a miniscule bump on the ground
>>572297127lol
A TNA wrestling commentator was wearing a Destiny seal pin>Theyre seriously killing a pop culture juggernaut
>>572300528which pin is that?
>>572300528I don't know what that is or if you're baiting something similar.
>>572300528Tranny nigger adults?
>>572300528>rasslinWhat would be Shaxx's finisher
>>572294565That part is the most damning desu. Even around launch saying>We hit 1 million players, thank you!Or even >Thank you for letting us hit 1 million copies sold across all platformsWould be a good start to brag with an encourage users to give it a look so they know it isn't dead out of the gate.
>>572300528>>572300630>>572300636It's the one for Reveler.
>>572300630Revelry>>572300636Wrestling>>572300762See above
Per Audacia robes are pretty dope
>We never got a third darkness subclass>We didn't even get new supers for strand or stasisHoly fuck I hate bungie.
>>572301930There shouldn't have been any d*rkness subclasses.
maratroon melty!!!
>>572302708You're like an hour late
Which was more cancerous, Destiny Rising progression or release EoF progression?
>>572301930>Thought it said brand of rapingI fucking hate this place
>>572302834holy seethe LOL! How's marathon doin?
>>572302925Launch Rising progression is its own league of bad due to the gacha inspired stamina system. What's implemented isn't rough because it can still be a grind but it makes sense because it's meant to be a F2P game.
>>572303121they just removed the pinnacle system actually and you can get any character by just doing content. Last time I booted it up though, I finished one of the new campaign missions for Wolf and then I endless fell through the ground since the spawn was under the geometry and then got stuck in a loading loop when I tried to escape so I just uninstalled. Would be nice to get an actual console/PC port of it, felt good to play at least and Jolder is my favorite.
>>572302216The Praxic Order typed this
>>572303048The amount of rape going around in these threads is a bit too high sometimes.
>>572303048Will you drown in the rape or rise above it?
>play crucible again after years>get 1 ONE bullet for my sniper on special ammo dropepic sauce
>play crucible
Gotta get that bright dust
Gotta get those catalysts.
>>572303859>hunting for catalysts>MIDA ONLY drops in cruciblesucks that I won't be able to get all the catalysts, theoretically could I cheese it with private matches or are those programmed to not progress anything?
>mike hawk got laid offThat's the last of the real talent. We're in the darkest days now.
is there a clan to raid with here? or am I relegated to the LFG mines.
>>572303859Erm anon you know that special weapons are le bad right? How else am I suppose to safely use my max aim assist dad rifle or 120 HC?
>>572304553Get to the mines.
Raping warlocks and forcing hunters to eat the caca on my cock
>>572304058mida multi tool? why would you ever use that shit?
>>572304821I don't, I just want the catalysts as something to do since I don't know anyone who wants to raid/dungeons and I don't wanna LFG so here I am
>cool looking weapon:)>stasis:(
1000 years old, just a kid
>>572304941Well by definition stasis is cool. Cold even.
>>572305025>:(
>>572305097:^))))
>be Raspootis>have no equal>do nothing in between warmind and worthy>shoot down the almighty in worthy and gas out>get instakilled by the darkness in arrivals>sit in narrative gulag for two years>kill yourself to prevent that roach eramis from hijacking the warsats>finWhat was the point of this?Was Bungie retarded?His greatest feat was not being able to be simulated by 1 (one) vex goblin.
>cool looking handcannon:)>180:(
i had all Rasputin posts because they make me sad
Just wanted to remind all the machine spawns here that referring to the Eliksni as "roaches" or "fallen" is very insensitive and politically incorrect.
GET THAT FIGGER OFF THE TOWER
>>572305603Raspoopoo was just a Golden Age footnote to make things look grandiose but then they spiraled it into a whole thing that was supposed to be powerful and important. Except then that just creates a situation where people will ask "what the fuck is the stupid warmind doing" which is exactly what happened by the way.So they just wrote vodkabot out of the story and turned him into a dog after he beat his son (other self) to death and had a tragic reunion with what remained of it and with Ana.
WHATS a good weapon in the crucible that succeeds at every range? im not grinding for loadouts for each map
>>572306295HC
Why can't the Nine just chill out? Also why did they let Skolas out?
>>572287235I've got both Subjunctive and and Optative, what makes them good weapons?
>>572305865This
>>572305865WHICH ONE THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
III hereI did that
>>572306749ntasub has a better frame
>>572305865>GET THAT FIGGER OFF THE TOWER
Outlaw or feeding frenzy?
what do you call this build
>>572307196Made me think of Baki
>>572307196Nice ass.
>>572305793Calling Eramis a roach is a purely personal slight based on her refusal to read the room and fucking die.>>572307163Can you shoot heads?
>>572306749sub is better than ikelos, but both are outclasses by either the desert perpetual smg or the omolon one from zavala, both of which roll with double jolt perks. Optative I just mentioned because it's an alternative to word of crota if you're looking for a similar weapon, but I hate 180s and would never use either. All in all was just mentioning a couple craftables, they're not necessarily good in the current sandbox
>>572307196Those legs remind me of an enemy from a game but I can't put my finger on it
>>572307507>omolon one from zavalashaxx*
>>572307445Sometimes.
>>572304719I don't want to get banned incase a slur slips out though
>>572308278Just don't use slurs?!?!?
>>572302708Well would you take a look at those chompers
>>572304553there is but the owner quit so i dont know whats happening
Can I get back inside or should I go back to orbit?
>>572309007nopeyouve softlocked itbe more careful next time
>>572308084whoops you're right>>572306749the smg in question is called Out of Bounds
>>572309007pretty sure you can no matter what you do
>corkscrew/seraph rounds/attrition orbs/kinetic tremors seraph carbine with stability masterworkIs this a godroll?
>>572310950its a goodroll
>>572309007Certified Titan moment
>>572310950>using weapons
>>572312135I'd rather use weapons than be a w*rlock like you.
Even if you're punching everything you still need a 12p shotty
>>572298342can you speak english at all?
>>572301930necromancer should be the fourth class
What kind of neutral support can you even put in a still hunt nighthawk prismatic hunter?
>>572315835healing grenade?
Tau Ceti was very empty this weekend...
>>572316140um... it was hot outside... so everyone just like sat on their couch and went into a state of hibernation
>>572288760it was never good
>>572316140Well, yeah, the update isn't out yet so it's just Sentients getting everything ready right now.
>>572316140Once the iran war is over we'll see a massive spike in the player count. Trust.
I can't get D2 to launch on steam. Does anyone know a fix?
>>572297913The average is 89k. This is publicly available information. Marathon also cost over $250m to produce. Like i said, I've shat on Maratroon more than most and have put up the numbers dozens of times here and on /v/. Part of why nubungie is such a shitty company, is how poorly they pay their worker bees. They claim that being able to put "bungie" on your resume is more valuable than working for other local companies paying 100-120 for devs. But the whole Seattle are has been laying off techies by the thousands since 2020, and the supply of codemonkies far outwoghs the demand, allowing bungie to keep wages in the gutter, and hire on more gullible faggots straight out of aie or digipen. Only Halo good old boys were making anything respectable the last 10 years.
>having to solo another breach eventI'm eating a lot of shit here!
>>572317408A what now?
is restoration just... dogshit?
>>572317935Yes. I think you need to build into health to improve restoration, but building into abilities that print orbs or immediately heal you is much more efficient for gameplay.
>>572317145 Marty explained and referenced the employee pension schemes from that one interview ages back and it’s not surprising why everything went tits up, if anything it’s a part of the plan. Run Destiny as cheaply as you can for the future by keeping the retail price fairly similarly despite less content and basically cash out by the time Marathon would be off ground and doing its own thing. Problem is these are still companies obsessed with line up and there’s only so much that could be squeezed. People bitched about Tyson but that guy wasn’t going to talk because he was just looking at the calendar for when he could retire. I understand not everybody reads everything and info flies quickly but I’m kinda surprised how few people don’t remember when Tassi talked about golden parachutes post Final Shape and Marathon out(which had its dates jerked around)
>>572317935Really only a concern for Physic on an healing Auto Rifle+ benevolence and other interaction shit, other than that eh it’s alright. That was something I had some trouble with when doing some builds with Crackshot and Dawn Chorus, I forget how on Solar you’re either getting all set up for ignites or you have the things that keep radiant on and some heal stuff but it’s not terribly frequent or leaves you sorta half assed
>>572292551Yep that one leaker was pretty reliable and they were the one who screenshotted some of the areas of Dares before it was even a thing. I’m starting to think a number of content creators were in on this shit. Like they’ve seen a lot of stuff that was supposed to be in the game but it just never came about or it was a TBD but basically bound to get scrapped
>>572305004It's sad when they go young like that.
>>572320202WHEN THEY GO?!
>the guardian never got to hit Mara>not even Petra as a consolation prizewhat did we kill all those gods for if we don't even have an awoken gf to show for it, bros?
>>572314910yeah
>>572314910nyet
>>572321434Man what is it with you "people" and mara? She looks like some busted up cracked out whore. Meanwhile Petra is a goddess who handles her shit no space magicry bullshit needed, just a gun and a knife. Now THATS a real woman. Go fuck yourself
>>572319560I don't think that's even a conspiracy theory as much as it is just a badly hidden secret. IIRC there was one streamer who was blacklisted from Bungie and banned from D2 for leaking something, and Cross seemed oddly optimistic around the release of Renegades for reasons he admitted he couldn't explain due to an NDA. And it probably wasn't Monument of Triumph because it seemed like only a handful of people knew about it at Bungie, mixed with the fact that he didn't go full doomGOD mode until after he dropped Marathon a bit for this year's Guardian Games.
>>572317935It got nerfed half a dozen times since Haunted and then it was finally given to hunters in the final update.>>572318412>restoration is affected by 100-200 healthFuck this game.
>>572322781Petra is nice, but she lacks the power dynamics Mara would bring.
srl auto is really good on arc warlock
Why did they make some of the older seasonal exotic catalyst quests require pvp? I’m never gonna finish ticuu’s or tommy matchbook
>>572317935It used to make you immortal but now it’s pretty mid
>>572322781I wonder what happened to the “Petra’s rippling abs” ritual poster. One day the fallen guardian poster will stop posting too
https://x.com/LlamaOnD2/status/2071309972244193669I know we have different players and that in and of itself is cool.Someone will look at this and think it's sick, while all I see is autism maxing.
>>572318572Sucks for us, but that's just about the endgame for every developer out there.Find some big corp, sell out, and cash out. Jason Jones is around 50 y.o, prime age to retire and just enjoy the rest of your life after decades of work. Kinda ruthless, especially considering there likely was some cutthroat infighting involved (Chris Barrett comes to mind) and legendary studio was thrown away like some used cum rag, but doubt many involved care.
>>572326262game is like 8 years old. It's to be expected at this point.
>>572326262>all this potential wasted on some dead video gameDude could have elevated humanity to the next level, but instead he focused all his god-gifted autism into achieving billibilli damage rotation.
>>572326262>bungie gives parasite envious assassin as a way of reloading it between 20x shots>people use it to spam the shit out of it at point-blank range:3
>>572326262gay and retardedBring back rocket launchers + gally
>>572327041You can probably still do that given how the strongest damage rotation uses a rocket launcher (and you can get a roll on it that can get 9 in the mag with bipod/overflow/timelost mag).
>>572326262>this is what bungie wanted to originally balanced endgame towardsBoy am I glad they fixed everything in monuments of triumph otherwise the game would be completely ass still
Yeah I want to have sex with this thing what about it?
>>572328125You're lying
>>572328338The only people im lying to is the vanguard so I can preserve my relationship with her
What would your ahamkara wish be?
>>572328908To be with her
>>572325904Engagement innit
>>572328908>I want to become an ahamkaraPonder the monkey's paw.
>>572328908Well I already got my wish for Destiny's enshittening to end, so I suppose I'll wish for a nice fresh glass of water.
I hate dattos face so much
>>572328908Killing SIVA one more time just for fun
>>572328908For 572330827 to get raped to death by a mixed pack of niggers and figgers.
>>572330756With or without makeup?
>>572333058lmao get fucked idiot
Waiter! Waiter! Another exotic mission shitting on SIVA please!
>>572326742do you mean envious arsenal?envious assassin reloads on kills, if it got arsenal though that's pretty rad
>>572326262that is just a pc player
Did this gun get some decent rolls?
>get shotgun>world eaters logo in the perks>mfw
I just spent like 900 marks rolling random shit from the podium and I'll probably dump 600 more tomorrow. What should I aim for with that 600?
>>572280463I got one with ican and onslaught.the seraph carbine can roll with ambitious asassin and onslaught which works well with the hunter diary and seraph armor bonuses.
>2896kek
im playing the edge of fate campaignwho on earth decided that it makes sense to make a campaign where you cant use sparrows in the main destination, but there's also no fucking fast travel system so at poitns you're forced to schlep around the damn map like a retardI get that they're trying to do the dark souls shit but it doesnt fucking work when you don't make the map loop in on itself
>>572345609>who on earth decided that it makes sense to make a campaign where you cant use sparrows in the main destination, but there's also no fucking fast travel system so at poitns you're forced to schlep around the damn map like a retardthey forgot the previous team did that for Mercury and everyone hated it.
>>572337042other than the standard voidslop roll, it's a shit archetype
>>572322781>Petra Venj>pet ra venj>pet revenge
Rape Bungie
>>572326262Is this shit even worth the effort? Like genuinely, it requires a ton of things to go right (like assuming the boss or enemy doesn't have a stomp that flies you across the entire map, fuck you bungie) and it's way more effort than just slapping geomags on with Warlock with some jolt/artifact mods with 200 super and nade support or Celestial Nighthawk & Still Hunt hunter?Like, what fight does this even work specifically on, Kalli?
>playing Gambit>get a bug I've never seen before that throws an error message and blacks out my screen before respawning me with no motes or ability charge>this happens in two out of the ten matches I playedThat's awfully convenient.
>>572351293dick measuring in the firing range is all these losers have left
>>572351380it always happens to me when using wave GLs. I guess all the particle shit+motes+enemies+perk logic for 8 players going off simultaneously breaks the game.
i really like the dsc 2 piece with shards of galanor
>>572353595Me too! Save it, it's all yours my friend :)
DoomGOD Chud Tassi is back
>>572297465skill issue
>>572354612The rape of the Marasissies begins NOW.
>>572307820Grineer? Thats what they always remind me of
>>572354409don't tell me what to do.
>>572355797
>>572333153BothIts probably his hairstyle that makes him look so bad
>>572356165sovl
Say it.
>>572358156Destiny: Rise of Iron
>>572358156Siva
>>572358156BABABOOEY
>>572358237NOOOOOO
>>572358156neomuna delenda est
>>572358203>>572358237It'll never not be funny how much anything Rise of Iron makes nu-Bungie seethe. Adding plaguelands without siva was fucking embarrassing
>>572358768they hate it so much it was originally missing from the timeline emblem, and was only restored after people complained about it.
>>572358156Mercules is a faggot
>>572358156>>572350886
Would you people classify the Kairos Function Suit as Vex themed or just Mercury themed?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/06/29/a-two-sentence-insider-report-on-why-destiny-2-died/It's up
>>572359223This article appears to be longer than 2 sentences
man, bungie really pulled out all the stops to make derealize the worst mission they have ever made.
>>572359223So it sounds like they did kill Destiny for Marathon.
>>572359457so, the fans were to blame after all.
>>572359223>Destiny often suffered from its “wins” immediately being gobbled up and regurgitated elsewhere.bungie legit thought they had an infinite money machine and could burn as much as they like on whatever they like.
>>572359419I just did it for the first time for the guardian rank and it was bizarre. Like what even is that part where you're stuck in the bubble and constantly teleporting. I don't even know if it was supposed to be a puzzle or not, I just stepped on the plate a few times and then I got out
>>572359457The issue is not complaining fans wanting more content to play but the fans that just log off and never come back because there is nothing to play. Have they learned nothing even now?
>>572359824the bit after that is what made me quiti was like wait a minute... this isnt fun.and then went to orbit
>>572359457>>572359728Wow, its exactly like people predicted last thread about margins and money wasted on other projects.And that Marateen was trying to argue otherwise, lol
>>572359824I made the mistake of trying to lfg a group for it and multiple times in a row, ended up with retards who couldn't understand the kindergarten tier puzzle, not willing to let me just do it and fucking everything up over and over to the point I ragequit the game for days each time
so.. after 12 years, destiny finally died
>>572360206The maratard literally fled here after having every single one of his 'arguments' dismantled. What an embarrassing retard, he still just repeats that shit ad nauseum every time there's a thread on /v/
>>572317145Dunno if you're still here anon since I went to sleep and didn't see your reply. I won't argue about the annual salary, 89k or 120k doesn't really matter. I think we can both agree on regardless of which one is true it still end up being a ridiculous sum of money lol.
>>572359457>lest fans revolt against its scarcityThis wouldn't even approach being an issue if most of the game wasn't vaulted and if Truman got defenestrated the second he said "overdeliver."
>>572359457I still don't get Bungie's train of thought. Because its not like they focused on making GOOD permanent content people would want to keep replaying like Forsaken-tier strikes or adding new maps to Gambit and the Crucible, or even fleshing out older activities like the Black Armory forges. Instead the focus was on just just temporary seasonal content that was terrible to fine, while spending ungodly amounts of money on voice acting, motion capture, and outsourcing work to other studios on important cutscenes that would be nuked from the game after a year and a half tops. Leadership is dumb as bricks sure but the game directors and the writers are not helping their position either.
Why not just... not spend hundreds of millions on a shitty extraction shooter no one wanted
>>572361323ah ah ah thats called unrealistic expectations anon
>>572361323But think of the train stations!That quote's funnier in the context of Bungie being a one-game studio for all but what, four months?
>>572360925The weird thing is looking back and realizing everyone in their videos are some wealthy people. That or the cost of living must be bozo-bonkers up north.
>>572361323And not own the chuds? Are you crazy?
okay yea but we got peanut to play our game!???
>>572362276>fuck you, I like it>Proceeds to never play the game or talk about it ever againI'm sure that sponsor was worth it, right?
>>572359457I completely forgot they opened a fucking Bungie HQ in Europe what the fuck does that branch even do if it even actually opened anyways.
>>572362447not even shroud who played it to the point of probably more than he was contractually obligated played it past week 4 or 3oh yea, remember that tau ceti cup competition that was full of streamers only?none of the winners ever posted that jacket they were supposed to win. lol. lmao
400k discord members and a accolades trailer
>accolades trailer >Zero accolades, just quotes from couple streamers and shills Embarrassing
>>572361892>bozo-bonkers up north.it isSeattle is "unlivable" under 100k>Seattle, Washington's cost of living is 45% higher than the national average.>housing is 104% higher than the national average.>ranked top 10 most expensive cities globallybungie picked one of the worst possible places on earth to run a company that employs hundreds of people
>>572362702>>572362773I made a post a month after that trailer about how all the people who provided those quotes/reviews had completely stopped reporting on the game or showed no signs of playing it on socials like twitter or bluesky or anything.I think only a single one of them had shown signs of talking about it. One.
Skarrow status?Datto status?Zavalr status?
>>572354612Tassi went up in my rankings probably since Lightfall and even more so in TFS because every little thing that just sounded like vague murmur hearsay bullshit, ended up having bits of truth to it, people really liked talking to him and telling him what was really going on.
>>572363507>Skarrow status?fuck>Datto status?kill>Zavalr status?marry
>>572363507>skarrowabout to put the fries in the bag>dattoabout to put his neck in the rope>zavalrabout to go on a warframe panel for whatever reason, also about to post tiddies
Zavalr unironically seems like a very sweet person and I kind of feel bad for shitting on her before
>>572363124It really is a window into cyberpunk hell ground work. Bunch of big money companies turn everything upside down ass backwards, you centralize what kind of person could even sustain living there, you send a bunch of ordinary ass people who lived very regular lives into now endemic poverty because there's nothing that exists and makes sense to their existence, it exacerbates the transient junkie homeless situation it always had, so you basically just have this constant element of people working for big company and won't say shit about it because it's the only industry in town. The landscape is pretty but it doesn't make it worth it living there. Also every town outside of Seattle feels like methed out demonic Twin Peaks
>>572363507Skarrow's still sobbing and having ego death because he realized the game was rigged all along and no matter what checks were sent to him and Mr Rofl Waffles, he's just not popular to sustain a content creator career organically. Datto is probably at the no loads refused mixer for Seattle Pride and still convincing us how straight he is doing make up that a drag queen for say is a bit much. Zavalr is still prisoner to the goblin and unclean
>>572363973she is pure rapemeat, and nothing more
>>572364424thisshe needs onlyfans now
>>572361323b-b-but I was told extraction shooters were the next big thing!The next BR craze!Marathon would be the next Fortnite!
Did someone say Zavalr?
Why did destiny/bungie become such a indiacore game?
>>572365734indiacore requires the game be on mobile
>>572366180But only pajeets are this obssessed with rape
>>572363124>globallyYikes.
...say that again?
>>572366510But that is literally all your culture cares about, why deny that rapists is the only thing india exports
>>572366510Spoken like a true pajeet, holy shit
>>572367375Rape pillaging and eating hookers has always been a whitemans tradition especially in Europe. You are Indian if you believe that all rapists originated from India
>>572367645This, all the raping's now been outsourced to jeets who take peanuts for pay.
>>572367040>me and ZavalaGlad to see Bungie's dialogue writers speak at below a 3rd grade level.For the ESLs reading this, the correct form for that dialogue line should read "You were always running off to play renegade, leaving Zavala and I to shoulder all responsibility." "Zavala and I" is the subject of the sentence, so should be formatted as such.I knew their writers were retarded by the fact they place commas in the places where semicolons should be, but this is genuinely elementary school shit they're fucking up here.
>>572359457So when I say marathon killed destiny, it's at least 30% true (the other 70% is because of the other projects that never saw the light of day)
Choir of One feels so fucking good man.
>>572372049You feel so good
Wrath of the Machine.
>>572374816Woah, cool it with the antisemitism
>>572374816it makes me smile knowing that at least one bungie dev goes to bed mad everytime they hear someone mention RoI
>>572372237Thanks, I just came to the thought of that.
>>572374998I wonder if it was Truman or Jason Jones who didn't want to bring it
>>572375891Jones fucked off from Destiny after D2 shipped, he doesn't care about Destiny at all. He just kinda did the incubation projects.
>>572376016He lost interest but he was still around to keep making retarded decisions
So no statement from Truman or the Sony jeet?
>>572367919This is good bait. Very subtle.
I don't get what the point of the 4pc First Ascent armor is. Is an extra grenade per transcendence so good that it's worth using your 4pc set bonus on?
>>572374816>Wrathlayoffs>the Machinesony
So basically if solar >Heresy set Arc>Luminopotent set Void >Eutechnology set
>>572377885Eutechnology is kind of meh because it has a lengthy cooldown. Honestly better to just use a generic set either for orb creation or DR
>>572377885I fell for the warmind meme and made a raspootin armor build for solarkinda mid
Luminopotent set is hilarious with pulse grenades, especially on titan with the grenade aspect because the effect has no cooldown. You can toss a nade into a group of ads and get like 12 ionic traces
>>572378168Isn’t the Rasputin armor is more for stasis, since the crystals count as constructs.
>>572378669you can build stacks with solar ability kills and set off the warmind explosions with major kills
>>572377885replace eutech for nezerac set
anyone else have the Wavesplitter Catalyst Bug?
>>572379124why the fuck would i use wavesplitter?
are you for real
Flying through encore after the pain that was Operation: Seraph Shield feels so good.
>>572379360>he doesnt know
>>572379412i still cant believe how bad tfs was
>>572379412that entire part made no fucking sense to melike none of that shit is realabsolutely NONE of it is real niggayou're inside the fukkin' traveler and being fed distortions by the witnesslike come the fuck on just move on already
>>572378986What does that do
>>572379907>like come the fuck on just move on alreadydoubly so because we already went over this shit for like 4-5 seasons the year prior to fsbut i guess bungie had to retread that ground because they FUCKING DELETE ALL THE SEASONAL STORY LINESso fucking retardedfuck everyone who rated tfs highly
>>572378925Lustrous and dreambane give you heals, or heals and increased ability damage. Warmind's extra explosion on powerful kills is pointless in anything above patrol for solar.
>>572380027with devour up you get 20% DR and gives better orb gen on debuffed target kills. Also gives devour on finisher (orange or yellow bar) if you're struggling to maintain that
>cooperative focus TFS campaign missions are set up like mini raidsNeat. Do any of the mechanics carry over to Salvation's Edge?
>>572383751No.
this is so bad
>>572384680They literally assassinated zavalas character, reverted him to season of the haunted status, and made him a bitch
>>572384680Hey, Zavala is a strong independent titan who don't need no vanguard
If I wanna grind as little as possible and haven't played for a few expansions, what are some weapons I should get if I wanna be dead weight less in raids?I spent some time buying shit to get a nice Rapid Growth, tried some racing with no luck and not sure what's actually worth the hassle
oh my fucking god who wrote this
>>572384904If you get the heavy sniper from renegades you can go in with literally nothing else and still put out competitive dps provided you can aim. On its own that weapon is the dps meta
>>572384904Sleeper, a decent primary and sniper will be enough to see you through any raid at this point. Though you may wanna get a decent sword for a boss like Crota which I'd recommend falling guillotine from Onslaught. Handcannon from Terminal Overload on Neomuna is quite good with EP + CR. As for a sniper the best ones come from raids and dungeons but you can get something something sniper from fireteam ops which is pretty good. You can also pick up the heavy sniper from Renegades if you are using an exotic primary or special.
>>572385008
>>572385124What perks should i aim for on the sniper?
>>572386230the godroll is a shiny version with accelerated assault origin and aggregate charge. Most people also take snapshot but you can also go for moving target or bewildering, then get as high reload speed as you can. Even without accelerated assault, T4 with aggregate charge and good reload will still do tons of dps (also use a loader mod or 2)
>>572385352>Falling GuillotineThey near completely reverted the Lament nerf, you can just go get that and use it for sword DPS and be within an acceptable margin of an "optimal" DPS sword with far less effort.>sniperIf you want an energy sniper, you could farm for Twilight Oath from the Dreaming City. Envious in column 3, Precision Instrument/Vorpal/BnS in column 4. It's a downgrade from Omniscient Eye (GoS) but is nowhere near "bad" for the task.Or in place of Something Something, Succession from Onslaught is also worth looking at, it has better perks for PvE. The DSC version of Succession isn't really even better than the Onslaught one, it's not worth it.
>>572385586woman
>If you really think through the type of game destiny is, I would argue that it produces, like, more content per capita... like on a consistent basis... y'know ahead of the recent past year, more than almost any other game in the industryyeah this IS why Destiny died; when the people who genuinely think this shit are the ones with a direct line to the developer's ears, no wonder everything went to fucking shit
>>572387134>*sensible chuckle*
>>572379360you can have a bubble up (functional immortality) every group of ads with the right build with it
>>572387130all good sniper options, and I believe the current BIS is Conspiracy Honed from equilibrium because it has double damage perks with vorpal and BnS
>>572387418i like heat primaries but i hate heat specials
this is pretty fun on prismatic
i dont like the heat sniper because i dont understand the perfect venting thing. Reload when the line goes into the last 5% of the heat bar? The fuck does that mean, at that point the gun is already cooled off and you cant reload it.
>Farming raids all day for a Posterity>Not a single one droppedFuck it, I'll just craft it in 4 weeks
>>572387130Reason I take something something over succession is that kinetic tremors helps proc accelerated assault. Since that loads rounds into the mag, having triple tap on top allows you to shoot 13 bullets without reloading. But that does require you to get one with AA trait.
>>572387653This an ergo sum build?
>>572387418The Onslaught Succession has Kinetic Tremors in column 3, so it can pair with one of Firing Line/Focused Fury/Vorpal/Recombination for double damage as well.Isn't Supremacy also still really good? Rewind Rounds with BnS, Kinetic Tremors or Vorpal is still really good, or you can go purely into ammo refunding with Rewind and FttC.But on that point of rapid-fires, is the ikelos sniper even worth it anymore? It is craftable.>>572387903That's true, Succession doesn't have an ammo refund perk at all, just Reconstruction to overfill the mag to 6. It's more of a "special killer" gun than a DPS gun, but it can pull double duty which is why I mentioned it. Not AS good, true, but Something Something was rotated out of the "current" vanguard pool, so Succession is easier to get.
>dmg kept his job>Allison kept her job>Tyson Green most likely kept his jobIt's not fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXDnXkDpc5kit's up, it's so over
>>572388402It is fair though you get to harass them for longer
>>572388378>SupremacyI love that gun, though the model is a little too big when not aiming. Will always be my favourite sniper though
>>572388402Tyson Green probably just took his golden parachute and left. What purpose would he even serve at modern Bungie?
>>572359457Weirdly right now the game is probably in its most playable state ever. A lot of things are farmable, sets everywhere to play around with. Pantheon for the three people who care. Shinies for extra stuff. Even solo ops are kind of a step in the right direction, I'd even argue the portal had a little bit of a good idea somewhere in there...And of course that's when the game fucking dies.
>>572388334nah you just throw 4 different grenades
>>572389005He still has two weeks. Only parsons had a 3 year vestment commitment, the rest had 5.
>>572388402They will be raped soon enough, don't worry anon. Bungie's death has been set in stone. All we await now are for the pieces to move; a grand play to entertain us. Just sit back and enjoy the show. [boisterous laughter]
>>572389005>What purpose would he even serve at modern Bungie?Be a face to point at so they can still claim "made by the people who made Halo."
>>572389315>"made by the people who made Halo.">Tyson Green, Game Director of Destiny >Being listed by maratroons as a "Creator" of their humiliation ritual
>>572388757considering all the information that came out now with the final death of destiny I am actually surprised how absolutely inept bungie leadership was since day 1
>>572379124I have the catalyst but I haven't done anything besides completing it.
Champions are the worst thing to have happened to this piece of shit game let me use whatever weapon I want you fucking niggers
So this shit just flat out doesn't work or what? Or does the Praxic blade not count as a sword for some fucking reason?
>hive lightbearers in witch queen are called hive lightbearers>hive lightbearers in final shape are called hive guardiansImplications? Did Bungie fuckity it up again?
>>572392112If it has a champion stun of its own, it doesn't workThe Praxic Blade is anti-barrier, so that won't work.The only one of those mods that I've found that still works is Kinetic Impacts (GL damage stuns unstops) on the Slayer Baron artifact working on Anarchy, but I haven't tried all of them to test either.
>>572391696every gun carries its own anti-champ bullets now big dog what even is the problem
>>572392112From Aegis' list of stuff it says it can't override the intrinsic stun which I don't really get. And so says the sheet in the OP too.So it does in fact nothing.
>>572392543He wants to use a weapon that doesn't have the same champion stun as he needs for the activity, ie 120 hand cannon or Fighting Lion in an activity with overload/barrier champions.
>>572392112>trying to double up on champ stunsone of my favorite nublight tells
>>572392632>120 in pvedeserved
>>572392746kys
>>5723916961 champion is okay. Ish.More is just a chore.
>>572392543>oh you like this anti unstoppable MG? >sorry buddy, but it has the wrong anti champion mod, go grind another solar MG with good perks but with the right champion mods so it fits your loadout>also this one looks like shit and is incredibly annoying to getnigger game
You now remember the Chill Clip Riptide meme.>>572392759Big dick handcannons deserve to be useful in PvE
>decide to go through equilib solo at first after watching video of how to do it instead of embarrassing myself in an LFG>realize partway through that the section after boarding the ship is a no-respawn zone for some reason>that's fucking weird>see vent on wall>had to shoot through multiple vents already>shoot vent>explodes and kills me from weirdly far away>remember it's a no respawn zoneIs Bungie really so petty they setup the whole area just to be mildly annoying and waste my 3 minutes?
>>572392991or just do different content that has unstoppables in it?are you retarded?The problem was only when your favorite exotic/primary/whatever didn't have ANY champion mods for the season so you were trolling yourself just bringing it into any contentNow my favorite gun is useful for 2/3 of the time and can still be brought along anyway in the other 1/3 >>572393085>You now remember the Chill Clip Riptide meme.It wasn't a meme, it was so useful that they literally target nerfed chill clip on rapid-fire fusion rifles lmfao>Big dick handcannons deserve to be useful in PvEPut that eriana's vow on nigga
>>572393137BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>572392759>or Fighting LionThe specific wasn't relevant, just an example.You could apply it to 140s or 450 autos and overload/unstoppable activities as well, or any other combination the new system creates.>>572393309>or just do different content that has unstoppables in it?The idea is to be able to "play how (you) want to play." Champions are lock-key design, they are designed to prevent this.
>>572393398(You)
>>572393309>put Eriana onWhat if I already use an exotic huh???
>>572393309>go do something elseYeah I'm going to play another game, this one fucking sucks.
>>572393490thanks
ONE MORE DAY BROS
Green and Brown minigame > Red minigame
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO I CAN ONLY USE 3 WEAPONS IN A SPECIFIC LOADOUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT MAKE MY SLIGHTLY ADJUST ANYTHING>anon, just dont do content with champions in it>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>572393960Gonna farm a Crimil's Dagger. And that rocket sidearm maybe?
Do we finally get Iron Banner this week?
>>572394307IB is supposed to be this coming week.I hope so, the armor 4-piece bonus seems fun for Raiden Flux/Eternal Warrior meme builds and IB is just going to get worse and worse to play the farther in we go from MoT release
>>572389514It shouldn't be shocking, Jason Jones threw away Joseph State's supercut for D1 because it was "too linear" and "not MMO-like enough".
>>572392746>chill clip>winterbite>polaris lanceProbably fifty other things now with the solar and stasis reworks.
>He didn't get the adaptive mg with subsistence and incandescentYou got fomo'd
>>572395575that would have been a great roll 4 years ago
I don't own Renegades yet so can't get the larpsaber, is this close enough as a cosplay?
>What if we copied old content, but made it worse?
>pantheon>harpy encounter from GoS>harpy can randomly OHK you on your way to confluxes by jumping out of the ground>harpy can attack you while a fuckton of ads swarm you during tether>harpy can spit its buff out and then turn away from it>harpy can spit its buff so than it hangs in the air right in front of its faceImpressive. Very nice.
>>572385124>If you get the heavy sniper from renegades you can go in with literally nothing else and still put out competitive dps provided you can aim. On its own that weapon is the dps metayeah I heard it's a very good baseline so I was planning to do some renegades and hope I get a decent roll because the optimal way to farm for it seems extremely obnoxious>>572385352fuck I feel like sleeper is one of the few power exotics I never ended up getting when I played>decent primaryis breakneck still good? I remember loving it back in the day and spending a lot of time getting a good roll>decent sword for a boss like Crota which I'd recommend falling guillotine from OnslaughtI do have a falling guillotine but don't remember ever using it or other people using it, did it get reworked to be much better or does it just have better rolls now?>As for a sniper the best ones come from raids and dungeonsBesides the exotics, I have a fourth time's the charm + firing line sole survivor that's been used quite a bit and also just got the fourth time + aggregate charge rapid growth so I should be good on that end
>>572396002filtered by conquests? yikes
>>572396384Falling guillotine was the boss dps meta during arrivals. It immediately got sunset with beyond light and lament came out anyway.
>>572396384>breakneckmy king, so good it assblasted the director of the game to completely ruin it (the game)
>>572396384>BreakneckIt's still useable like most things, but elemental primary with whatever element it is' "kill lots of stuff by applying element effect" perk is strictly better/easier to work around.>Guillotine got reissued in Onslaught (twice), the newest one is decent. Get The Lament exotic sword as well, it's arguably better.>>572396670>immediately got sunset with Beyond LightThat's not true, Arrivals weapons (including Guillotine) were to sunset as the 3rd BL year season ended, it was never truly sunset, they stopped sunsetting weapons with the set before it (that included Dire Promise and the original Seventh Seraph weapons).The point about Lament powercreeping it is true though.
>warlock main Can someone please help me understand stats. Some people say grenade is best for buddies. Some people say I should invest in a shit ton of weapons so primaries are good.>Game fucking sucks at giving information for deciding builds>I primarily play dungeons and solo content>What should I do? >What stats should I focus on?
>>572396913I still can't believe that Luke's excuse was that his friend was having too much fun with it and refused to switch to something else. His friend may have just been a casual too with not much time to dedicate to Destiny on top of that.
>>572395928I kinda want to fuck female dregen bael.
>>572397448I just do weapons, super, and then whatever stat I need for my build so like if I'm doing nothing manacles go for grenade or if I'm using dawn chorus I'd go for melee.
>>572397448Getaway artist, arc soul, threadling, and hellion damage all scale off of grenade stat.Stats in general have a major breakpoint at 100 that generally influences cooldown or baseline damage, where every point beyond that is a bonus such as more damage, higher ammo generation, overshield on class use etc. Depending on your build and what you want to focus on, you'll either push 1 stat to 200 and get the others you care about as close to 100 as possible, or do relatively even spread and rely on mods and artifact to boost you further. As a warlock, your abilities do a ton of damage and clear so it's more common to have super and either grenade or melee pushed, with class as close to 100 as you can get it.Imo, I would rather have 100 class on a shorter cooldown than an extra 7% damage on my melee or grenade
>CloaksDon't need em.
>>572395921>Double special >With a heavy that you never gave to reloadSure buddy
>>572396937>>572396670>mountaintop recluse anarchy>izanagi kindled orchid hammerhead>witherhoard gnawing hunger falling g>spare rations mindbender's wardcliff>ace erentil bad omens>dust rock arc logic black talon >last word beloved goldtusk>revoker trust worldineMan I miss Arrivals and all my weird ass loadouts
Bros I'm gonna reload so damn fast.
>>572396913you know itfelt so nice to use compared to other auto rifles>>572396937I already have the lament, but might also give getting the guillotine a try if it's noticeably better than the other old swords, to have some more freedom exotic wise
>>572398453>dust rockBasedI'm glad I kept mine. Its ornament was only usable in power-enabled content for less than 6 months, so fuck anyone that paid silver for it.>>572398774>Nightshade has double moving target>Positive Outlook has double feeding frenzyAre there any other double perk guns?
>>572398453>>mountaintop recluse anarchywouldn't surprise me to have ran this at some point toorecluse was that gigabusted smg right?
>>572399025yep, that combo was pretty much single-handedly responsible for sunsetting
>>572399025The combo with Mountaintop was insane; in red minigame especially there were only two loadouts - People who had MT+Recluse, and people who hadn't gotten enough grenade launcher kills to unlock MT yet. Witherhoard was also really annoying.
>>572399180Alongside Spare Rations/Mindbender's and Rose/Beloved in minigame, yesA non-zero of the sunsetting justification at the time was coming from the minigame streamer cabal, saying stuff like "I'm tired of getting killed by the same gun every time."
Just did the revamped Inverted Spire for the first time ever. Is nothing sacred to Bungie? Or, well, was, I guess?
Is the legendary lost sector the best way to get tier 5 armor from nessus outside waiting for the distortion?
>>572399025Yep. Master of arms was a fucked perk, especially back when you spawned with special ammo.
>>572399787Yes, master lost sectors are the best way to farm armor, even during the distortions.Do it on master if you can, it's not that much more difficult and the drop rates are a bit nicer.
>>572396002whats a conquest
>>572400190Yeah today's is just the one big room on nessus so I'm gonna push it pretty hard.Trying to get a generalist exodus set; gonna use it for my felwinter build first,Wanting to max melee and grenade is a nightmare, so I'm just picking the skirmisher set (melee/weapon) and looking for grenade and class subs so they hopefully get to 100. Wanna try and use the new soul siphon.
How are you still grinding? I have no will to play knowing that everything I do now will be for no reason. The point of grinding in destiny was to always be ready for the next big thing but theres nothing left to do but replay shit you already did years ago or suffer in crucible
>>572396002Grandmaster Conquests are so tedious. Primary doing 8 damage per shot. Double special fucked beyond all recognition. Every fight is slow as molasses. I got halfway through the strike and had to pop a blight. Three mags in, I stop, immediately log off, and keep my sanity for another day.
Why do they keep writing Clovis this why? I get he's an egoist, but how can a scientist of his caliber be this lacking in self awareness. Sociopaths typically fake it, but he doesn't even do that. Does he have some type of mega tism?
>>572400886>wanting to max melee and grenade is a nightmareYou're supposed to pick one or the other, the entire armor rework was to get rid of generalist options that let people have everything. The tradeoff of "you get to specialize to stronger abilities" doesn't cut it for me in a lot of cases because the game was originally made with you having ALL your abilities, not just being really good at one of them, and it feels wrong to just ignore shit.For example, Combination Blow Hunter needs to build Melee and Class; that archetype of armor just doesn't exist, you just get fucked on not getting 200 Melee, or you have to wait for the dodge, but Sunbreaker has a 0.5s cooldown on its melee spam at less stat investment.>>572401404>WhyThe writers want him to be disliked, so they make him an asshole to a comical degree.They also don't know HOW to write a character like him, so they do a shit job because otherwise they'd just write "thinly-veiled Elon Musk parody" and say that's that.
>>572401669learn2fontmod
>>572401404He was a narcissist willing to sell out humanity to the darkness and we literally have multiple examples today of real people like him who think they are right, so why is it that you think he would be any different?
>>572401404You answered your own question my guy, he's an egotism first and foremost. As far as he's concerned he's the smartest being in the universe and everyone knows it, therefore he can do no wrong - And he assumes everyone feels the same way, because after all how can you doubt someone who's infinitely smarter than you?
>>572401669Yeah, it's just awkward because everything else for warlock is super grenade intense, and I still want 100 grenade here. Just that the big draw of the build is the rape fingers, so I'm farming a whole set just for it.
dios mios, death spiral hitting marathon hard. New record low at 8,8k, steam summer sale btw 30% off.
>>572401816Font mods still give a timed lockout, they don't just give me my full ability back, I have to wait. Unless you mean the melee font, and then that's honestly just on me, I didn't think of that.I don't like the inconsistency though, I'd rather just have it work the way it used to before the armor rework at the same investment that any melee build on the other classes can achieve. Having to do both AND do font mods where they don't (meaning they can use fonts for other things like grenade or super) still leaves a massive parity imbalance.
>>572401404supermassive ego tends to blind, but it's also a case of stupid people writing a smart person.
>>572402103these are perfectly healthy numbersperfectly stable 8k playersthey will pay for 400 employees in the Seattle areaeasily
>>572402103ok
>guitar errored out of ReclaimSo how much shit is currently unplayable and when will they fix it?
>>572402103rainbox six siege tier comeback incoming btw
>>572402640Anon, I...
So if I have 200 grenade with speakers sight does that make my heals giga chonky?
>>572402103Arent they only 4 weeks or something into their new season? They have the same numbers as when we were at rock bottom lol
>>572402640Honestly, if Sony/Bungie has any plans to not simply abandon the game in place it'll probably be at least a couple of months before a team is organized to take over maintenance. That's also if they didn't happen, by miraculous coincidence, to shitcan all of the people who know how to patch Destiny.
>>572402195yeah i mean the abilty font mods. 2 of them gives you 40 of a stat and i'm always charged when it matters
>>572403671>They have the same numbers as when we were at rock bottom lolLess than that, actually. As 24 hour peaks go >>572402103 is an all-time low for Marathon.
>>572403306grenade stat above 100 has no effect for healing grenade
getting 200 in grenade should upgrade whatever grenade you have equipped to the touch of x version
>killed off the speaker and never made a replacement>killed off the hunter vanguard and never made a replacement (fuck you Crow)>killed off the factions and made no replacements>killed off individual agency for enemy factions and just made it all one nigga's doing>just said fuck it and made Ikora the head of every aspect of humanitywhy the fuck were these retards so obsessed with shrinking the worldbuilding down so fucking much?
>>572404698>render an aspect worthless by getting a stat you'll be getting anywaybungie devs were stupid but thank god you weren't on the team
>>572402103Ramesh, this is the 3rd month in a row that you are talking about Marathon's "death spiral"
>>572404051>2 of them gives you 40 of a statHow much does 1x do then? I'd hate to give up the "melee kills generate orbs" mod, and I refuse to not use loaders, having it feels too good.
>>572404870marathon and matter took the money
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lAiGPrLAneg&pp=ygUPbGxhbWEgZGVzdGlueSAyIt's up
>>57240504620
>>572404214Eh, I'm gonna use helion so I'll still grab a piece with high grenade. Thanks.
>>572404932warlocktroon detected
>>572405189>I HAVE to build 180 in a stat AND 70 in a stat that doesn't pair with it on any armor archetype>or get to 160, but I then have to give up a loader mod and make my guns feel like shitSighMaybe I just use Riskrunner so I never have to reload
>>572405523ive never used a loader mod in my life so i can't relate
>>572402103I eagerly away Bungie's contingency of trying to make it F2P for good to try and keep the game alive until they do their "we fixed the game!" update next year.
I thought when they first mentioned Armor 3.0 they said some shit about having 200 in a stat maybe giving an extra ability charge or something.
>>572405735>fixed the game updatethere is no fixing the game
>>572405374Hellion scales off of class, doesn't it?
>>572404870>Writing is hardThese fucks wanted to focus on their own creation's, and anything that came before was just used as fuel for the fire. Getting rid of the factions was a giant mistake, sure let them play a minor background role, that's np, but to outright remove them sucks ass. I miss DO, and I fucking despise what they did to the FWC, those guys was actually rad as fuck. I hate how humans are seemingly fucking defenseless pacifist just hoboing around in the last city. FWC was one of the few human factions that seemed willing and able to actually try and fight instead of just laying down and fucking dyeing. It's also insane to consider that anyone thought that the factions attempting a coup, would ever be considered remotely feasible by the ones planning it, they know what guardians are capable off, It's just bad writing, and most likely driven by spite of anything that came before their factory-assembled lesbian parade
>>572406041Nah.
>>572402103If google is to be believed based on their position on top sellers they are making less than $10k a day from Marathon. I don't think Bungie is going to even have anything greenlit and they will be shuttered by 2027.
>>572404993That's how death spirals tend to work, yes. Back to /mg/ you go.
I miss the big damage numbers
>>572407036what was the justification behind this change
>>572405987I know, but they've done it twice already for actually decent games so that is probably a big thing that Sony was advertised and gave them leeway for.>Destiny 1>lacking content>add a lot of content>Destiny 2>content is meaningless>make content meaningful and add more>Marathon>everything is ass>needs like 2-3 more years in development to pivot to something that is only mostly bad>it's always going to look like shit tho
>>572407392unless they pull out literally destiny in a marathon suit in less than a year its over
>>572407514>Unless they pull out (game that only sometimes made money) in a (game that never made money) suit in less than a year it's overLooking grim.>eats popcorn
>>572407704nta but Destiny is all Bungie has unironically. Its the only IP that makes the money. Marathon if it was more like the original games just modernised would've made more money than what they shat out. Bungie has been on the Destiny slop train for 12 years and so are unable to make literally anything else other than an FPS shooter. What else are they gonna do, make another Myth game? lol.
>>572407392The first time they did it with Destiny they had a buttload of content to pull from thanks to the game just being a collection of 70% completed assets. The second time they did it during Forsaken, they just undid the retarded decisions they made in the first place (Go Fast update, random rolls on weapons, return of specials). In both cases they didn't have to do all that much, really. Marathon doesn't have the same luxuries, unless it just starts ripping shit from Destiny 2 harder than it already is.
>>572407392>they finally go back and make all of the old content worth playing even if the older dungeons didn't get any harder>after killing the gamesuch a fucking wasteI swear they never went back to make old stuff good because they wanted to push people into only playing new shit and to make f2p players buy the expansionsworthless cunts
>>572407369They said it was "too easy" to max out the number displayed (999,999 is the max) so it didn't give useful info anymore.Some other excuses, but I don't remember those ones.
>>572405523Just get a roll of your weapon with flared magwell or alloy magazine.
Dead game dead general dead thing
>>572412717I'd talk more but I've been in this MLS for 2 hours and 1 pair of boots has dropped and it spec'd into health.
>>572412881It's a sign to go for a walk for your own health :^). I jest there's not that much to talk about anyway
>>572412881MLS?
>>572413583MasterLostSector
>>572413702Those take 5 minutes
>>572413854I assume anon means he's been grinding in it for 2 hours and has yet to get the drops he seeks
>>572413854I'm not that anon, and I'd assume he's still doing them at that rateHe said he's been doing it for 2 hours, and only 1 drop has been the boots of the armor set he's looking for. Assumedly, that means he's done the lost sector about 120 times at 5min/completion, or some ratio similar, assuming he isn't taking breaks.
>>572413997Yeah I've filled up my exotics twice now.This sucks! But this is a really easy MLS, honestly.
>>572413702Haven't played since like Lightfall I just assumed they were powercrept to hell and only dropped engrams now so you could target-decipher at Rahool.
By the way I am STILL mad Banshee doesn't let you change your masterwork on a gun.Ada is a seamstress now, so she should let me reroll armor stats. Lock 2, take a chance on the third. I'm not asking for poe tier crafting here. Just bare fucking minimum.
whats the easiest way to get exotic catalysts? im not getting lucky with exotic orders and i just want the khvostov one
>>572414276At least it isn't a bad lost sectorNever do Veles Labyrinth, Bungie added a stupid gimmick to it so it would take longer and it's a pain in the ass.>>572414279They drop exotic engrams, masterwork mats and the new planet armor and weapons on every completion. They're the optimal thing to do if you're looking for one of the patrol armor sets for the bonus.
>>572414423Catalysts are random. I'm told arena ops tend to drop some but that's probably bias unless one of the math autists has ran the numbers.Basically pray for it, play the game, hope Xur will sell it.>>572414469>Veles LabyrinthTo do this the mind boggles why they did that.>make a labyrinth >it's a lost sector so it's not that big but you can still learn the path, you know. Like a labyrinth.>lmao get fucked play it as intended nowFuck Bungie.
>>572402103Even ignoring Marathon's low playercount, the sales chart position is very bad. Not only is it being outsold by Halo CE's UE5 remake, its even being outsold by fucking Edge of Fate, nevermind older games like Fallout 4, Watch Dogs 1, Div 2, ect.
Who is Paul Tassi’a super secret insider?
>>572414707>why they did thatI said why, it was faster than their spreadsheet said was acceptable for Legend/Master LS farming. They fucked it (like the "strike reworks") purely to make them take longer and eke out engagement.
>>572414873not telling
>>572414469>>572414707i'm 1000% faster at veles than the fucking servitor one
>>572414873it was the ponytail guy all along
>>572414469That's good to know, some guy in a raid told me about a fun new bug.The Europa armor is gives you heavy ammo progress every 12 seconds, the conditions are bugged and don't matter. Allegedly.
>>572414707i've gotten microcosm catty to drop from ketchcrash so ye arena ops can drop em
>>572415328I'm pretty sure the buff is easy to test if it works in combat or not. Aegis' list does mention that working though.>>572415038The one with the gates? I guess by the time you actually reach the final part of Veles you really just need to blow up the room until the boss spawns
>second pairI need a fucking belt to chew through.
>>572415424God I hate ketchcrash. But I meant that supposedly they drop more often there.>>572415618Better luck next distortion!
What does the ergo sum catalyst even do? I already got it but never use that shit
There's so much shit in my vault. I would have easily paid Bungie whatever they asked for another 1000 slots.
what is the reasoning for making all of the mods on armor 1 or 3 energy but then capping energy at 11? across 4 slots that means you will always have 1 extra energy
>>572416296Ask Datto to clean it up for you
>>572416416ITS CALLED COMPROMISE CHUD
>>572416416Kinetic siphon and the one that attracts orbs are both 2 off the top of my head.
Has anyone here tried the Prophecy set? It seems neat but the swapping between Light and Dark weapons makes me a bit anxious to try it.
>>572417042just use riptide?
>>572417186Don't you need to alternate kills?
>>572417304alternate probably means kill with one and then the other, you dont have to chain it
>>572416439Troons are gross
>>5724170424 piece is pretty busted. Once you get 5 stacks you get like 20% of your grenade or melee back per one kill
>>572417042swapping is just for the DR and it's basically just get one kill with a dark/light special while you continue your normal shit. Otherwise it's pretty cracked for grenade/melee regen
>>572417439i would have farmed a set if it wasn't weapon kills onlywould slap on strand titan with the 4 charge exotic
>>572402195Just run multiple fonts. If you're using combination blow builds, keeping armor charges up shouldn't even be a thing you think about. It's always been an orb/charge factory build.
Funny to notice that the maraslop spam stops when it's bed time IST every single day
how do you turn on matchmaking for these? It gave me a little tutorial saying something about the difficulty + mod selection will turn on MM, but I don't see an option for it and no matter what I select it's always set to OFF
>>572420641you can't change the modifiers and also have it be matchmade
>>572420641matchmade versions will have set modifiers
>>572421083>>572421087but even if I just change the difficulty and don't touch the modifiers, it's still set to OFF
>>572421184not all activities are matchmade every day. they rotate
>>572421184anything past the first page wont be matchmade
feels like they weighted the star wars sub to drop way better rolls than the star wars pulse
i cant get the catalyst without paying silver huh
>>572423412i thnk you can with a cipher
>>572423412The only way to get Lode's I would imagine now is to pay money or wait for Xur to have it.
>>572423412please stop spamming about lodestar, you are becoming unhinged
>>572423412not telling
>>572423412i swear that gun is shit
>>572423412the worst part about lodestar is that it takes up the exotic slot, it's mid tier useful
>>572423412I just want the icicle launcher catalyst...
>>572406626There is no /mg/ anymore
Finally got around to using this. Super fun gun. Going through an ultimate solo op thinkinig it was a little easy, probably because of void surge, then remembered I didn't even set up my artifact.This is gonna get juicy.
>>572426763They have been raped.
>>572426763Gaped beyond repair
What's better for posterity? Voltshot/Explosive Payload or Voltshot/Redirection?
>>572426763>Just looked >There really is no thread anymore Lmaooo not even 4 month old game btw
>>572426981>>572427536>>572427764Season 3 will save the game.
>>572426975you have full throttle on btw
>>572427879Yes Rajesh, a THIRD free weekend before their six month anniversary will save the game.
>>572427715probably frenzy volt
Is it just me or do 450 auto rifles suck ass now? I know theyve never been the meta but they always felt usable. Im comparing finalshape to the current stuff.I loved ammit.used it for years. Got a ringing nail and im thinking sweet an incandcent rampage/firefly 450 lets go. Then its a underwhelming shitstick thats struggling with redbars
>>572427715the latter
>>572428116Yeah, definitely helping. I'll go for a more neutral test on the next one.On the whole, this feels silky smooth though. Any other voidlocks have suggestions? I am dedicated to staying on Felwinter's.
>>572428557precisions have been one of the weaker auto frames for a long while nowhigh impacts might even be better since the rpm buff
Did I hella miss out on the fun by not playing at the beginning of the month? I bought the collection along with Marathon but I haven't played Destiny beyond the intro mission yet.
>>572429137>I bought the collection along with Marathonplease leave the thread
>>572429073Im coming back from final shape. didnt know they fell that far
>There's a very high probability that there is more people queuing for Gambit than there are people playing Marathon
>>572429452>peopleThey're Gambit players. Worse some of them might be Reckoners
>>572430674Well we're still comparing subhuman green minigame players to colour vomit skinwalker count.
>Gambit has the Crucible ability recharge ratesFucking why? It only serves to make the PvE feel like shit for a lot of builds for no good reason since it's not like you'll actually get close enough to an opposing player to be able to hit them with an abiliy 95% of the time.
>one of my memory sticks died;_; time to take out a small loan of $1,000 bucks
>>572431541You could also suck 100 dicks.
Imagine being one of the few bungie devs that was actually competent at your job watchinh everything slowly crumble
>>572430930you WILL use combination blow
>>572431994So imagine being Dylan Gafner.
>>572432104dee EMM GEE LAWL
>>572432104
>>572432028Nah I'm just gonna throw my funny little hammer.
>>572432735i wonder how he felt when he got hit with that
>bungie abandons destiny because it's "not profitable"That's what happens when you expect a game you put as little effort as possible into to fund multiple games being developed and to pay for 1500 employees at the peak.And now they've decided to focus on the even less profitable game, and try and bring in the destiny base by adding a half passes pve mode that sucks ass for everything but being a barebomes pve mode.I hope when bungie dies someone takes over destiny. Pretty much anyone else would be a better fit.
>>572432919bungie is about to become Sony's Raven Software
>>572432919Imagine putting all your eggs in the Marathon basket lmaoWhat a fucking stupid company
Exploring Vex cave structures must be awful, sure gameplay abstractions make it so that there's always a crouch height hole for us to fit in but imagine getting somewhere a bit too tight, and now you have jagged bits digging into you, or being unlucky enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time to get stuck inside one of their currently shifting tech rocks and now you're stuck and can't move and can't even kill yourself so you have to wait to die of thirst or something before your ghost revives you somewhere safe. If I was forced to explore vex structures I'd do it with a bomb remotely activated by a ghost inside my ass or something.
Okay /dg/, you need to design a quick and cheap cash grab using existing assets for Destiny 2 to help Bungie survive the year. No, Wrath of the Machine is out, get fucked.
>>572433828Marathon probably could have been saved by shifting the project to a different team, and destiny could have been saved by having bungie focus on what they're good at and work on destiny full time instead of just milking it for money to churn out garbage.And now, instead, bungie is going to die and marathon will be only mildly better remembered than concord.
Holy fuck you guys need to shut up about Marathon player count alreadyS3 is going to be a comeback that it'll need now that Destiny is out of the picture
>>572434049SIVA fallen in a reskinned and restylized Scourge.
lol
>>572387291
>>572434010>I'd do it with a bomb remotely activated by a ghost inside my ass
>concept art is going around of the crashed ship with failsafe having siva on it>whoever was in charge was so ass blasted about roi being the best dlc in d1 decided to not only remove it from the exodus black but from the game all together (except for cosmetics that they want real world money for, and outbreak)That kind of shit is why bungie was always going to fail.It didn't matter of a product was good or not, it mattered if some faggot thought it "represented" them enough.
>>572434936So post it?
>https://x.com/Zavallr/status/2071807117078519864>Wants SIVA back in the game, lore be damned, because it would make people happyZavalr is /ourgirl/ (real)
is it fun to play solo through all the campaigns and stuff? or do you need friends? can you meet nice and kind people in destiny?
>>572428723Did a bit more playing.I'm using a kinetic shotty with pugilist because I'm an idiot when Mint Retrograde would be better, but the main issue is absolutely barrier shields just being so chunky for a primary. In team content this should be fine, but in solos, if there's anyone else in the room, they'll kill me while I try to take down a shield.Of course, this could just be a stage issue. There's no fucking cover and like 3 chain gun enemies that will melt you, overshield and all, in 3 seconds.
>>572435124The top is the concept art, and the bottom is text from the d2 beta that sadly never went anywhere.I remember being hyped for siva and a continuation of the aesthetic when the text was found in the beta. And then it never actually went anywhere.
>>572434897Who's getting all hot and bother about having a fucking bomb inside them?
>>572435767the guy putting it up his butt of his own volition
>>572435283>"lore be damned"Bungie stopped giving a shit about the lore of destiny before beyond light came out.The only reason they never added siva again is that they'd "have" to recreate all the assets again, and why do that when they could spend that time on a remodel of pre-existing enemies and guns and a "planet" every year and a half.
>>572435767Hunters getting banged by an Arc titan
>>572434010Paz...
>>572435883It's a wise tactical move, somewhere internal and well protected so that it can get damaged or disabled by the various dangers around Vex structures and as it's something inside you it regens when you die.
>>572435680>made their next
>>572436164
youd just get revived right back in the devils nutty putty shithole reverse plus ultra anyways
I want to touch One's uhhh... whiskers? barbels? tentacle things? It'd probably feel nice for the both of us.
>>572435680Well yeah it makes sense because every colony ship had SIVA as a tool to use and they even did something with it in their gay Lightfall city I shant name. So asshurt were they however that they made it totally awesome and betterer Quicksilver with a completely different, completely gay aesthetic. Though I'm pretty sure they only did that because they didn't want to have red geometry vs orange geometry in the DLC and it's harder to imagine people living under Red Spaghet geometry to be totally radical and innocent good guys.
what would clovis bingus say about siva
>>572436668It's just a tool and all the Fallen should be eradicated because they touched humanity's property.
>>572436668>siva? oh you mean quicksilver nanites? last i heard those xim/xhirs on neptune used them
what would clovis bingus say about the SIDDARTHA GOLEM
>>572436292The alpha and beta were a total clusterfuck. Clearly shit out quickly to try and build hype around the impending release of destiny 2.But was full of bugs from destiny 1 that got patched during rise of iron as well, so clearly was started before rise of iron came out at least. And still the base game was full of essentially nothing to do, despite an extra like two years of development time.Which is also part of why bungie failed.Like 1500 peak employees, and yet every piece of content they released felt like it was rushed out despite taking increasingly longer and longer to release.I imagine destiny as a whole was canned because they were going to have to push back the next dlc to 2027 or some shit, and so they dropped what they had ready as the already planned "do this for six months to a year" and just cleaned their hands of the up.
>>572436745All true. Also that willa was dumb for not letting him do whatever he wanted with it.
you now remember this
>>572436805What an idiot machine rasputin was, not even using what was handed to him on a silver platter to take control of the stupid white ball
>>572436805Clovis did his own with Banshee.
>>572436805>SIDDARTHA GOLEM>>572436959
>>572436959I unironically liked Worthy
>>572437082i never understood why people disliked it
>>572437082they made zavala and ana look extra ethnic
>>572437176The bunkers were kind of ass and overload captains are a blight upon the earth. Still are in factThe public events were kind of unbalanced early on too and the summons were honestly worthless. Also that one triumph to not let a single fucker even put a toe on a plate sucked to get because just like Escalation Protocol it required a modicum of completency from randoms.I'm pretty sure it bugged out for me and I never did end up getting it but titles mean jack shit to me so...On the other hand actually going to destinations for events was nice to me, weapons mostly looked good and they were kind of new too. Plus we'd end up getting warmind cells from that.
>>572436970They had to make him useless and kill him off so they could make room for ana brey being gay for some ugly sheboon and sad that the robot they hated and bastardized (there was more than one warming, but making more than one was too much effort so they made them all rasputin) was gone now. Also, russia bad. (thus why we got season of the haunted in fucking April, and seraph got pushed back to December.)
>>572437557That was the season they finally fixed barriers, too, because there was one Legendary Lost Sector where two barrier servitors could cover each other and that was hyper omega aids.
>>572436970He was basically locked out of his network and in hibernation until our guardian started fucking around in D1. Same general idea goes for the hive, vex, and cabal, they were all pretty well dormant or a non-issue until we showed up.
I guess I should have put quotation marks
>>572437874I haven't kept up with how and when the lore changed, but I thought it's been pretty consistent that the vex are the most ancient and powerful threat to existence due to their treating it as the game it originated from. They didn't fuck with us directly, but their goal will negate our existence.
>>572437817It's like champions were a bad idea or something.
banes are worse
>>572438201We have proof now they didn't have to be, too.But Bungie has a raging hard on for curating a meta for a given time period.
>>572438296They had to make the game "watchable" (balanced around streamers that literally play the game as a job), so they had to be "hard" so that people kept watching the streamers.
>>572438023The vex were studying golden age outposts and terraforming the rest of the solar-system. Everything not directly touched by the light they will control in time. It was better when they were the traveler's workforce, because that explained why they didn't aggro earth.
...so who won?
the grey tide shader...
>>572437557i dont think it was a "content" problemif the worthy content was added now in this game state for the first time it would be praisedbut at the time it was 2 very shitty things1: giga timegated2: bugged to shit in about every way possiblewhich soured how people perceived the content.
>>572439582>the grey tide shader...is better than it has any right to be
are awoken long lived or whatever like exos? or are they just purple humans with some magic or w/e makes them special
>>572441038IIRC they were originally on a colony ship which was stuck in the middle of a Light Darkness implosion and were then remade within their bubble of the Dreaming City. They lived in there for billions of years until Mara decided to take over and play with Riven.So in essence yes but no (it's complicated)
>>572441038>>572441889>After The Queen and her followers left the Awoken homeland, the Distributary, she created the Dreaming City as her own personal realm. There, she and other Awoken could reside in peace. Uldren Sov desired to bring the Queen a gift and returned with an Ahamkara named Riven, who would stay in the City for the rest of her life.
I'll bake
>>572442467My bad, it was the Distributary.
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