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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9446 - Sonic and astronomy Edition

==NEWS==
> Sonic Frontiers: Definitive Edition Officially announced for Nintendo Switch 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlkkchmzVrA
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/

==Comic Release Dates==
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 01 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>572231281
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So we all agree Sonamy, Shadria, Knuxouge and Silvaze are canon.
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>>572287632
Yes until Sega retcons them to be (like) siblings.
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>>572242579
>>572242898
Who are you and why are you so mean for no reason?
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>Her archie counterpart
So they are not even the same species?
I am interested in learning how much of Sally vs Archie Sally is different
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>>572287419
Eh? Astrology?
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>>572287632
Correct
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>>572287751
You're a faggot and obnoxious one at that. You bring drama from last thread hours later for no reason.
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>>572287724
Two down, two to go then.
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To whoever makes making the Bulma comparison, that is a decent argument in terms of Expies but also a reason why Sally doesn't work in the games. Notice that Bulma is one of the only heroic genius characters in dragon ball for a reason. The story never creates another character who renders Bulma redundant. She actually has a role to play.
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>>572287594
>Thr Sallyfag might then claim Game Sonic is just le-bad and needs to be made less of himself to accommodate her
Nah
>Tech expert? So long Tails.
I fixed that by making her his sister and mentor on the brainy side of things, adding to Tails' background.
>Love Interest? Rip Amy
Love triangles are a thing. More than 1 girl can be interested in a guy.
>Seductive spy? Rip Rouge
Sally isn't a femme fatal like Rouge is.
>Person who argues with and butts heads with Sonic? Rip Knuckles.
One's stuck on Angel Island. The other on West Side Island.
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>>572287935
Sonic and Amy being siblingconned would mean Amy is into incest
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>>572287751
Faggot
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>>572287996
>Love triangles are a thing. More than 1 girl can be interested in a guy.
This would get annoying fast considering how Amy still treats characters who flirt with Sonic as late as 2023. Even girlbossmy will chimp out on sight.
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>>572287848
>Slaps the shit out of (You)
>The cosmos demanded it, kid. Get over it.
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>>572287935
>>572288072
I hope movie 4 kipls sonamy like Mario Galaxy did to Rosapeach
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>>572287961
>The story never creates another character who renders Bulma redundant. She actually has a role to play.
Her fucking dad, my guy. https://youtu.be/l373dAMeGj4
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>>572287751
Hello Elias/Sally in a wig. Archie Sally looks like Elias, she lost all her feminity with that ugly hairdo.

>Archie Sally would have
That's called Ned Flanderising someone.

Sally is a kisser, but not a dramawhore, doesn't look like her brother with those disgusting caterpillar eyebrows, doesn't have that ugly hairdo and she's supposed to look for various suitors and like all kings & queens, princes & princesses the fuck anything that moves. Archie are horny bastards that can't help themselves and from a simple Bugs Bunny kiss they turn it into "WHOAAAH WHY WON'T YOU MARRY ME" fuck off, Amy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeemYm3M_Jc&list=PLVLLjN9wKHROAG1F4wnFFqp-cie7Wa-S0&index=11

Sally's Dad is a fox so that makes Sally a fox.
>And here I thought she was a bug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wz5AxRnjY0

Alright Sallyfrens I'm getting FRENCH SEGA to reboot Sally properly. She gets to be a part of the IP.
Heck she even gets to keep her voice actress and gets a new musical motif whenever she appears on screen.
>>572279681
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>>572287961
Bulma is reduced to Vegeta's babymama
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>>572288213
Bulma's dad is literally a secondary character for Bulma. He doesn't have any of those dynamics Bulma has.
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It is not longer a matter of IF Sally will return

But WHEN
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>>572288149
>This would get annoying fast considering how Amy still treats characters who flirt with Sonic as late as 2023. Even girlbossmy will chimp out on sight.
You just don't get it.
https://youtu.be/TbSe2BlqI20
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>>572287961
>>572288224
>>572288189
Sallyfags/Fionafags. Quiet for a moment. SEGA has an announcement to make about Sally that will blow your mind.
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>Sheboygan

Wisconsin is canon to Sonic confirmed
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>>572287771
>She is one of the most affectionate characters in the Sonic property
She slapped Sonic in the face for not wanting to settle down
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>>572288321
>moving the goalposts
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>>572288224
Vegeta is Bulma's mancandy lol
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>>572287632
>Sonamy
Vaulted
>Shadaria
Retconned
>Knuxouge
Only existed in Sonic X
>Silvaze
Canonized by brute force
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>>572288204
> Mario movie
Seeing the hero getting friendzoned like that is just too brutal, makes you start rooting for the immediate alternate pairing available
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Douge
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>>572288218
Not him but I still think they should've kept the king as a fox in the comics.
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>>572288665
>Only existed in Sonic X
Explain SA2
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So you know how Madonna was supposed to be in Sonic, right?

And you know how Sally went through many iterations and was part of a different show that got repurposed, right?

I mean just look at this yellow character design over here. Reminds you of someone?
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>>572288667
>Seeing the hero getting friendzoned like that is just too brutal
What movie did you see? Mario and Peach have the hots for each other the whole way through.
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This Sallyfag has been rambling here for almost 3 days straight. Did he lose his job or something?
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>>572288832
How can Peach like a manlet like that what's wrong with her?
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>>572288667
Didn't Mario also get friendzoned in that hat game that had tall humans in 1930s big city?
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>>572288665
Dougef...
>>572288673
Well shit.
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>>572288759
This why Sally was gonna be human for like a hot minute?
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>>572287996
>I fixed that by making her his sister and mentor on the brainy side of things, adding to Tails' background.
That doesnt make any sense. Tails is an orphan Sonic adopted.
Thos also undermines Tails own traits by making it something Sally gave him.
>>572287996
>Love triangles are a thing.
Nobody likes Love Triangles. Nobody. Shipping is mental illness as is.
Archie's Betty vs Veronica was a mistake that generates retention rather than engagement by turning a story into a team sport.
>Sally isn't a femme fatal like Rouge is
You're lying if you dont see hoe her being seductive was part of her character.
>>572287996
>One's stuck on Angel Island. The other on West Side Island.
We are NOT turning the entire classic setting into Sally's fucking kingdom. That ruins the setting and the vibes of the games.
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>>572288924
I hope not. I've seen what hanging around here 20 hours a day does to people.
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>>572288949
He beat DK, Bowser and saved her kingdom. Did you forget she was gushing about how cool he was in the first one?
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>>572289123
Yeah saving someone won't make them like you, Mario has to have other redeeming qualities or a big cock or something
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>>572288665
>Only existed in Sonic X
It was in Rivals 2
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noticing a trend of sallyfags actively attempting to remove her character traits because if you imported her into the games with her actual personality it would kill all of her character dynamics since none of the game characters were IC in Archie
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Sallyfags, here is how Sally can become part of the current Sonic IP:
>But that's just...
Yep. It is.


>I get a feeling that Tails was actually a stand-in for Madonna just like Sally Acorn was a stand-in for Tails.

You seriously give Sally a super genius computer she made by herself named "Nicole"? That's literally Tails. Sally is Tails. Sally is a fox. Sally was Princess Tails all along. And Tails was supposed to be Madonna all along.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/80lpet8nTu8

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmcEuocbSMAPH0Cdu0neR7qOYrOad6dB_PXEnPRM24Y/edit?tab=t.0
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Sonic would be grossing more than mario if shitmy didn't exist
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>>572288721
If you say so
>Sonic is captured by the military organization G.U.N. after being mistaken for Shadow, a mysterious new "Ultimate Life Form" who has broken out of a G.U.N. facility. Shadow, working alongside the cunning Dr. Eggman and jewel thief Rouge the Bat, seeks to carry out the final wish of Gerald Robotnik — Eggman's grandfather — by using the Space Colony ARK's superweapon, the Eclipse Cannon, to take over the world. Sonic escapes custody and teams up with Tails and Amy to stop them. Meanwhile, Knuckles fights ghosts in the desert.

>Shadow's backstory slowly unfolds: he was created by Professor Gerald Robotnik aboard the ARK as the ultimate life form, and formed a deep bond with Gerald's granddaughter, Maria. G.U.N. raided the ARK, killed Maria, and imprisoned Gerald, who in his grief reprogrammed Shadow and the ARK to destroy humanity as revenge. Eggman, believing he's using Shadow for his own ambitions, is actually just a pawn in Gerald's posthumous plan.

>The Eclipse Cannon is fired at the Earth, and the ARK is set on a collision course with the planet. Both hero and villain teams are forced to put aside their differences to stop it. Shadow, moved by a recovered memory of Maria's true wish for humanity to be given a chance at happiness — sacrifices himself to destroy the cannon's core and save the Earth, "dying" in the process.
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>>572287898
>>572288106
you must be very cool person irl who goes to numerous parties
>>572288218
>Archie Sally looks like Elias,
That's what makes it so hot. Imagine boning a guy who looks exactly like his Hot sister that you have a crush on
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>>572289339
Reminder to not click google docs links if you're signed into google with anything except a throwaway account because the document owner will see who has opened it.
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>>572289325
They also insist on radically changing the setting and surplanting existing characters to shill her in previous games for some reason.
Why not just make a new setting?
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Sonic could swim? Is this why boomers got so mad at Sonic X not being able to Swim?
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>>572287771
SatAM Sally is actually really smart and has the role Tails usually has where she's the genius inventor ally of Sonic (Rotor is a lower-level mechanic, not a computer wiz) as well as a tactician, and she knows that Sonic is a wildcard in the war against Robotnik and they have a common enemy but Sonic's methods are more rash so she also juggles attempting to wrangle him.
Archie Sally is supposed to be an impressive leader, but we rarely see it, and she's not nearly as smart as she was in SatAM. In fact, she's practically shipbait - most all of her most impressive feats are actually NICOLE'S, her handheld computer A.I. that in SatAM was usually more limited and even had restrictions/safeguards that her father built in. Sally is there to be Nicole's end-user since she's pretty much useless without her, and for cheap teen drama.
Oh, and Sally was supposed to die at Issue 47. In fac, the comic was supposed to wrap up at #50. The writers just didn't know what to do with Sonic and Sally post-Robotnik, and assumed Sega wouldn't renew the contract. They're more recogizeably the SatAM characters before the arc that was supposed to end the series.
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>>572289339
Would Tails work as Sonic's sassy love interest? Because Lost World seriously makes me doubt that.
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>>572289028
>Tails is an orphan Sonic adopted.
No? Where'd you get that from? That's not in the games.
>Thos also undermines Tails own traits by making it something Sally gave him.
Not really since his shtick is about believing in himself. Why shouldn't he want to be the best parts of both Sonic AND Sally. The 2 most important people in his life who made him who he is.
>Nobody likes Love Triangles. Nobody.
Speak for yourself, bro.
>You're lying if you dont see hoe her being seductive was part of her character.
That doesn't make her a femme fatale. Look up what that means.
>We are NOT turning the entire classic setting into Sally's fucking kingdom.
Her kingdom's in West Side Island.
>That ruins the setting and the vibes of the games.
No it doesn't.
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>>572289468
X Sonic being scared of water is way more ooc than Satam Sonic being able to swim
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>>572289339
>Tails was supposed to be Madonna all along.
Thats Amy actually.
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>>572289339
>Sally is Tails.
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>>572289220
>Yeah saving someone won't make them like you
His perseverance is what got her all hot and bothered. Showed he wasn't a bitch coward, but a man.
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>>572289406
The original poster quite clearly pointed out why the drawfag left (because you and only you asked for the same shit faggotry) and here you are acting clueless. You're not subtle.
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So how would Silver play out in a 2D game? would he be just a Tails skin? how would his gravity even work?
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>>572289575
>No? Where'd you get that from? That's not in the games.
Not even engaging with you anymore if you arent even gonna engage in good faith.
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>>572287771
Did Chronicles write these as character bios for the fangame or are they for something else?
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>>572289726
Just draw the request you want. Nobody is forcing you to draw what you don't like
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>>572289339
>Sally is Tails
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>>572289339
>>572289532
>QUE?
>QUE?
>QUE?
>WHY?
>>572279681

Because Sally replaced Tails. It is only right that Tails now replaces Sally.
Full circle.
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I dont bother engaging with any discussion about Sally in here because it's clear that most of you fags are just baiting and the few that aren't are arguing from a post-hoc rationalization thus there is no point in debating them.

I've been scrolling through most of this shit because it reads like ragebait botting.
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>>572289726
He was also the same fag who spammed FWA for faggot requests
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>>572289959
thanks for the blog
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>>572289871
>Not even engaging with you anymore if you arent even gonna engage in good faith.
Says the guy straight up lying and running when getting called out. Way to be a pussy, bro.
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>>572289861
He wouldn't work in Classic IMO. His core concept is grabbing shit with his powers and that just doesnt work with 1 button gameplay.
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>>572288759
>>572289929
Madonna -> Tails -> Sally <- Tails

Oh my God....

OH MEIN GOTT

Tails voiced by Kath Soucie. What do we think of this?
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>>572289929
Why is her pussy out?
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>>572289225
I know it get memed often but knuxouge really is a sonic x ship, not too different from tailsmo. I mean, rouge's only notable interactions with knuckles are in SA2, an then only barely. Every other game she has an interaction or two with him it's played for laughs and not really any different from how she treats the other characters. The only person rouge treats differently is shadow.
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>>572290085
(You)
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>>572289861
It can't work because his abilities are made for combat. So a JRPG like Golden Sun. Otherwise he would just be a Tails clone
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Why would Sally ever name her AI Nicole and not just call it Computer or not call it a male name?
Who the hell names their AI "Nicole" ?

>Tails makes an AI and calls her "Nicole"
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>>572290250
Show me where in the games it says Tails is an orphan that Sonic adopted. Prove me wrong.
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>>572289875
Krack confirmed it was him. His Sally is reboot Sally with Satam Sally's voice and behavior. He goes by a character first appearance or something
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>>572289225
You mean when Rouge ditches Knuckles at the end of the game without a word once she gets what she wants?
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>>572288665
> Silvaze
Putting them on the same scene isn't romance anon, I'd say brotherzoned with prejudice.
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Every Sonic pairing involves mischaracterization on Sonic's part including Sonamy
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>>572290317
Because Nicole isn't a real AI but Sally's childhood friend who had aspergers and was digitized by Robotnik for her genius mind.
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>>572290235
>Every other game she has an interaction or two with him it's played for laughs and not really any different from how she treats the other characters.
I disagree with this hard.
She basically flirt taunts him about the Master emerald at the end of Heroes to get him to chase her and in Sonic Colors DS she tricks him into coming to thr amusement park to spend time eith her but he was too dense to get what she was doing.
Her relationship with Shadow is all business by comparison.
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SALLY IS A FOX
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>>572289726
>>572290061
I'm being very genuine actually
>samefagging drawfags
Not true, there's at least 3 eliasfags back then
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I want Sally to sound British.
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>>572287419
Female posters, add me on d/scord: zhotcaller
If you like gaming,mori, loli, animes, kemonos, creative and artistic hobbies, AVGN, Pokemon, Fate series, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, Bravely Default, Fire Emblem, Limbus Company, Final Fantasy, Digimon, Disgaea, Monogatari, Mega Man, RWBY, Touhou, /m/ shows, plus others
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>>572290524
Why does Rouge enjoy bullying Knuckles like this
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>>572290404
Thats part of there dynamic. Holy shit.
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>>572290473
Was that in the show or in the comics?
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>>572290524
>She basically flirt taunts him about the Master emerald at the end of Heroes
Was not flirting lol
>Sonic Colors DS she tricks him into coming to thr amusement park to spend time eith her
Colors DS isn't canon, and she's not above screwing with him for fun.
>Her relationship with Shadow is all business by comparison.
Yeah, "I'll always be by your side" "You're... special to me" are things I totally say to business partners.
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>>572290710
It was for Season 3. She would've come back from suspended animation as a kid, and be adopted by Sally.
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>>572290557
Nah, it's literally one guy. C,alls Elias Elijah, is heavily into hmomm (the sonicmanfag) and you are the same person.
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>>572290654
She is his girl bully and likes him.
Duh
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If it was legal I would break Violet's kneecaps inward and use his throat as my personal fleshlight until he eventually died from the trauma.

Krack can get it too.

Also fuck you Slashy, I hope you get hit by a bus and die you Zionist faggot.
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>>572290840
Maybe she should stop pump and dumping him so much then, very mean
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>>572290826
Elias is hot so any Elias request is based l, I don't care if it's the same anon or not
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>>572290845
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>>572290763
You're coping so hard dude.
Mother Wisp and the Burst and Void Wisps are from Colors DS. They are in Forces and Team Sonic Racing.
ColorsWii was the sanitized game journo approved version.
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>>572290996
It's literally you asking all of them.
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>>572290157
There's your Sally, Sallyfrens.

(that's what happens when you turn Tails into a useless toddler in Sonic SatAM)
Hey maybe you can get Sally in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgheog instead. :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soWyrIhpdms

Also she's mute cause we couln't pay her voice actor, we recycled the grunt lol.
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>>572290524
>business
The business is jumping Shadow's bone.
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>>572290318
And nothing. No balls.
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>>572290430
I can see how people see romance on Shadow/Maria (my interpretation is platonic), but there is absolutely nothing in Silver/Blaze that they also don't do with it the other characters.

Blaze being gay for Amy is almost more credible than her having any sort of feelings for Silver.
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>>572290763
>Yeah, "I'll always be by your side"
If they learn the world is literally gonna crucify them, yes you would.
Also it got erased anyway.
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>>572291052
I'm not the anon you were talking to
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>>572288204
Movie 4 is the last hope left for Amy's character and Sonamy because Sonic Team has stopped caring about her characterization
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>>572291246
Likey story, tell him >>572290061
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>>572290317
I think in preboot, Nice was named after one of the late queens, and in reboot, she was named after Nikki, her "original" self.
>>572290710
That was the plan for the season/movie that didn't happen, so don't take it as canon.
In the reboot comics, she's an experimental A.I. that was used to brain-scan her creator's dying daughter in the hopes of uploading her mind, but it failed and Nicole could only copy; she was given away because he couldn't bear it.
In the preboot comics, I think there'a two origins, depending if we're in the early "gag" era or later in the more "serious" run.
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>>572291095
>jumping bones
>uses this as their evidence
Dougefag....
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>>572289339
Sallyfags how are we feeling after the realization?
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>>572291080
>Also she's mute cause we couln't pay her voice actor, we recycled the grunt lol.
She was voiced by Tabitha St Germain.
https://youtu.be/VNaBrt1XkjY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AFil1Vm2KY
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>>572291295
Amy's going to be Sonic's long lost sister because it's Hollywood. And then they're going to make it so in the games as well. They joked about that even in one of the earlier tailstubes.
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>>572291331
>so don't take it as canon
Don't take Ben Hurst's, the show's creator, word as canon? What kind of logic is that?
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>>572291012
This is only posted when I correctly call someone out.
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>>572291331
>I think there'a two origins
The first one was in a story that was scrapped so it doesn't count. The other one is where she was created by Rotor from the future which doesn't work with SatAM.
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Hello everyone.
I wish you all a wonderful week.
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Tails!
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>>572291508
I love her! She's cool!
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>>572290106
>>572290308
That's what makes want to think more about it, maybe he's a Tails clone but flies more horizontally then vertically, and maybe the moment he destroys an enemy or be above an item he will get a hold of it which will orbit him and attack any enemy on screen and it's all automatic?
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>>572291740
Dragofag was Duofag all along?
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Ardan has once again revived my interest in RosemaryxTails.
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>>572291362
>compares herself to a woman whose purpose in life is trying to jump hedgehog bone
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>>572290826
Nah it's not
>>572290996
This. So very much this. This was the last one I got from Dragofag
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>>572290845
Sonic the Hedgehog
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>>572291859
That sounds like Feels the Rabbit who was canned specifically for needing more than one button
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Sonic needs a new harem. Sally & Amy are getting old.
>>572289532
Forget everything you know about Tails. We're rebooting that fox just like we rebooted Tails into Nine.
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Is anyone else watching My Adventures with Superman? Kara is the new Sally.
She literally fucked 1000 suitors
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>>572291979
Disgusting samefagging faggot
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>>572291183
>I can see how people see romance on Shadow/Maria
It's intentional on part of the creators. Don't get it twisted.
>my interpretation is platonic
And it's bullshit. A tortured soul walking in eternity protecting the world per his lost love's wishes. Maria was everything to Shadow.
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>>572291923
>ignoring context
She is talking about how Amy can be sappy and sentimental.
If it was jumping someone's bones, she would have said how much she likes him openly like Amy does....
But what is context to a shiptard.

This is the point where you post the gif of her flying 12 feet behind Shadow as they race off yo be Sonoc's cheer squad again.
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>>572289325
I've seen it happen before where someone says they want Sally back and someone else loses their shit because "NOOOOO AMY'S ALREADY A LOVE INTEREST! DON'T REPLACE AMY", when no one talked about replacing Amy or making Sally a love interest.
A canon Sally doesn't need to be a love interest, you can still have her butt heads with Sonic while keeping him in-character
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Let's talk about momma foxa.
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>>572292140
And so is Sonic.

It would be funny to see Amy & Sally get jealous but admit defeat that Sonic isn't for marrying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeemYm3M_Jc
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Whats wrong /sthg/? You dont look so good.
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>>572292140
>Kara is the new Sally.
>She literally fucked 1000 suitors
Can you porn addicts fuck off?
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>>572292360
Porn addicts? Who are you, Yuji Naka?
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If I buy digital copies of Sonic Heroes and Shadow 05' through the Japanese PS3 store does Sega get the message does have still have commercial interest?
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>>572292342
>Rosemary has red hair just like Sally
>She looks like Tails whereas Sally looks like her dad
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>>572292198
>Maria was everything to Shadow.
He "died", lost his memories and then learned the truth and moved on.
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>>572292137
Nine would be legit more interesting than Tails. At least that way Tails adventures would fit neatly into timeline before Sonic 2
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This is a Freedom Planet thread now.

>>572292481
No. Only if you place a bomb inside that Shadow the Hedgehog copy.
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>>572292481
Yes
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>>572292527
>He "died", lost his memories and then learned the truth and moved on
ShadGens
>>572292570
>At least that way Tails adventures would fit neatly into timeline before Sonic 2
Enough of this shit, Tailsfag. You're giving me the ick.
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>>572292360
Sally Acorn is a whore
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZmZBJmvOYQ
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>>572292342
That's just Tails with a redhead's wig.

>>572292570
Nine is literally Tails
>inb4 everyone screeching that it isn't so.

It's impressive how fast Nine Tails caught as an actual separate character rather than just "Lol evil Tails doctor Ock".
Was it because everyone felt bad for him?
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>>572291590
Because it didn't release and would have been subject to many changes in the final form, bother from the input of other creatives as well as producers that likely would've told him to tone it down. If you read his pitches, it sounds like he hasn't fully figured out realNicole's role, just the main bullet-points. It seemed like he was wager to workshop his ideas with his crew. He wasn't even sure if Nicole was going to survive or sacrifice herself.
Hurst's word wasn't written on a stone tablet. In his continuation pitches, he was going to conpletely ignore the red-eyed mystery person that sided with Snively (yes, he decided later that it was Naugus instead of Knuckles like the artists expected when they drew it, but he was also going to completely retcon the secret partnership and instead have Naugus still playing chess with Robotnik in the Void, to be broken out early on and delete the idea that he allied with Snively).
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>>572292456
Made for blue hedgehog cock
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>>572292310
I'll do you better than that. I'll post the whole thing.
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Nicole's pitch backstory with her contemplating making Robotnik shoot himself in the head before calling herself the "Ultimate Solution". There is no way in HELL they would have aired that on television
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>>572287938
>Sally herself is not a symbol for any particular virtues.
Says you.
>when the series os about unleashing your autism
And Sally can't do that? Bro, just say you hate her and be done with it. Your shit ain't in good faith.
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>>572292845
What is this supposed to show us?
That Shadow is a crybaby?
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Dumb chubby Doe
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>>572292570
>At least that way Tails adventures would fit neatly into timeline before Sonic 2
It already does

>>572292763
>It's impressive how fast Nine Tails caught as an actual separate character
That's because he is
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>>572292456
KARA ZOR EL IS THE NEW SONIC?
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>>572292763
>That's just Tails with a redhead's wig
And Sally's just her dad with a red wig. >>572290552
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>>572292985
Sallyfren, Sallyfren. A mini interview please? What do you think of THIS? >>572290157


If you ever had to put Sally again and Kath Soucie wasn't available then what other voice actor would you like?
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>>572292763
Nine is Tails without Sonic + not having anyone else in his life = most dangerous fox ever in was any Sonic series.
Even Dr Eggman's assistant Tails would be less unhinged and murderous.
And funnily Nine had quite similar reaction to other Tailses than his comic book counterpart Miles: disassociation from Tails identity and being as much as original as he can be (which isn't much)
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>>572293036
>Kills entire island of highly trained bird soldiers because they disturbed his nap
>Can't stand up to normie bullies
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>>572292096
That's what was i trying to avoid, he doesn't another button because...hear me out...it's all automatic just based on your actions, the moment you kill with spin attack you'd have an automatic missile on the ready, if there's an item that is shining on the ground or above like a jar or a coconut, walking above them will do the same thing, you don't need another button, you simply need to play and observe and your powers will aid you
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>>572293184
>Even Dr Eggman's assistant Tails would be less unhinged and murderous.
Excusy? how many other AU Tails am I missing here? also what happened to that Tails in a lab coat which smokes and carries Sonic like a pet or a kid?
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>>572290157
>Femtails tall
Isn't Tails supposed to be like half the age of Sonic?
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>>572293180
>What do you think of THIS?
It's retarded.
>what other voice actor would you like?
Dunno. I'll get back to you on that
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>>572289339
>Some people just like me got a different titlescreen for Sonic 2 where Tails had a different design (while not having access to the 90s TV Shows) which naturally spawned some different assumptions and interpretations of Tails.
Totoya confirmed this wasn't intentional, that title screen was just an error

Also I don't like that female Tails design. He is fine as a cute boy

>>572293339
Tails just isn't confident in himself
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>>572293339
And that's why it doesn't work as a prequel.
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>>572293410
If Sonic Boom is any indication, without Sonic around dr Eggman would be most likely candidate to look after Tails. And by looking after I mean making him repair his robots and then shooting him on the back because the dumbfucks stood around like an idiot.
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So according to Sallyfags Sally can work in the games if you just destroy her personality
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>>572293379
The game is based on momentum not figuring out a room, plus what fun would you have if you're not doing anything and it's all automated
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>>572293742
>Tails just isn't confident in himself
Retarded explanation.
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>>572293926
It makes sense and fits his personality
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Cocoa island.
There were only two survivors.
One went crazy like a loon.
And other one forgot all about it.
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>>572293017
It goes back to Rouge reminding Shadow that Maria and Gerald aren't real and to remember who he's become. She's probably proud of Shadow for letting them go and expressing his sadness. As much as Shadow would anyway.
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Tails just didn't register the birds as people.
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>>572289861
>how would Silver play out in a 2D game?
Like Mischief Makers
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Why does that Google Document get crazier and crazier the more I scroll down? This doesn't even have anything to do with Tails anymore
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>>572293476
Aren't foxes supposed to be much bigger than hedgehogs?
Also aren't foxes naturally predatory so shouldn't Tails have been a rival all along or a traitor double agent from Eggman?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdFDD1RsIeY
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>>572294418
Is it 265 pages of all the people he raped?
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>>572294418
it's blatantly ai generated
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shitmy ruined this franchise
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>>572293908
It can be adapted by simply, adding more enemies and more items that can regenerate, for example, you're flying and spinning through but the way forward is full of enemies, you would have to stop and kill them, but if you were to run before from a different road you'd find it's full of items that you'll pass and grab automatically, and once you've reached the enemies all of the item will just destroy them and you'll go without stopping your momentum, in Silvers levels it's more of find ways to defeat the horde of enemies quickly to continue having momentum
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>>572287632
Experience has taught me that normie pairings often get btfo.
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Also Tails didn't kill the birds at all. He attacks them, but the animation of them being burned and disappearing is just a gameplay thing, not actual in-universe murder
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>>572294714
They disappear because Tails doesn't register the existence of the bodies. Just like that one game Haze
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>>572294694
https://taiora4ever.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/couple-legitimacy-why-i-accept-taiora-and-dont-accept-sorato/

10 years of seethe
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>>572292892
Nicole being a former human is so based. I wish we got canon human to mobian TF in the series.
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>>572292845
Why didn't his tears go to Maria? The rest of the game focused on her.
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>>572294418
You guys can read?! which part did you find crazy in particular?

Sonic AKA furry Megaman is a pretty crazy franchise if we look past the cutesy 6 year old animals.
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>>572294714
What do you think happens when he BLOWD THE SHIP OUT OF EM WITH HIS BAWMS!!??!?
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>>572294714
FOXES EAT BIRDS. Somebody should make a romhack where Tails EATS the birds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc1W_Pys88U&list=RDmc1W_Pys88U&start_radio=1
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>>572292573
I don't want to make my PS3 explode, it's already old.
>>572292635
The thing is, I'm aware of the PS2 versions being inferior, but I feel bad pirating a game that's technically on sale. I would probably ended up emulating the GC version on Dolphin.
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It this real or bullshit /sthg/?
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>>572293483
>It's retarded
MMM YOUR TEARS, SALLY. YOUR TEARS ARE DELICIOUS. FIONA YOU TOO.

Tails makes for a better Fiona & Sally than them both.
Mmmm we need Sally,Amy,Fiona trying to get territorial and call Sonic their bf before he shuts them down and to stop being so childish before he goes with his little "buddy".

I normally hate zoomer songs, but some of them hit the mark correctly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRuOOxF-ENQ&list=RDmc1W_Pys88U&index=2
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>>572295284
its almost like archiefags convinced sega to put a sonallyfag in charge of the fucking writing
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Those Tails sisters designs are better "female Tails" designs than whatever is going on in the rest of the document

>>572294530
Yeah but the guy at least came up with the ideas I assume

>>572294913
I'm skimming through it and reading if something catches my attention. Turning Tails into an older woman was already diverging away from the character too much, but at least you were fusing him with other "Sonic companion" characters. But giving this character transformations that make it become a robot-looking Satan is just nonsense at this point. Of course Sonic fights demon inspired monsters, but this has literally nothing to do with Tails' character at this point
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>>572292674
>ShadGens
Yes when she literally time warped in front of him. And then he moves on again. Physically this time.
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>>572295284
Tails as a big female mecha Transformers is more real than that bullshit.
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>>572295326
sally being possessive over sonic is an archie mischaracterization, she didn't even feel committed in satam.
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>>572295284
>Heh, I have secret information, dude... it's SO wicked. You don't wanna know >:)
>it might... destroy civilizaton. heh. MAYBE I'll talk...
Vagueposting and other grifting should get you a federally enforced 3 day ban from the intrenet
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>>572295173
Buy it then play the superior version on PC
Have you figured out how to buy it? Do you know if it would be playable on PS4 or PS5? I've never owned a PlayStation console
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>>572294128
>goes back to Rouge reminding Shadow that Maria
No....not in any capacity
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>>572295438
>but this has literally nothing to do with Tails' character at this point.
Tails was a THE fallen angel all along.
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Notice how every dogshit game is one that features shitmy
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>>572295438
>Those Tails sisters designs are better
Huh? Oh you mean these >>572292573 that's literally Freedom Planet 2's designs.


Nobody here played Freedom Planet 1 & 2 ?
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Sonic fights Kaiju because Sonic is a Kaiju.
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>>572295438
And? It's just some nerd's AI generated nonsense. Anyone can do that. There were no deeply thought out ideas here. It's just random shit.
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>>572295720
Would Tails burn the entire population of town just because Sonic (or you) told him to?
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>>572295928
I played Freedom Planet 1. I was talking about Lily/Starly

>>572296013
I figured, I'm just expressing my opinion on them
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>>572295845
CD?
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>>572295493
I feel like this is too specific to be a coincidence.
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Notice how every dogshit Sonic game has Sonic in it?
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>>572294841
Just a reminder that Hurst MOST LIKELY meant to say "sapient" when he referres to Nicolce having a "human" side.. Of course, it could have worked thematically, but considering lynx Nicole was established in the early 2000's around the time he was pitching his SatAM sequel, I think Sega would've wanted a little cohesion and not have Nicole use a totally different design.
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>>572294841
I don't think Nicole was actually human. Ben Hurst simply never used the term "mobian" ever.
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>the AI schizo found /sthg/
ight, I'm out. Tailsyume was right about this place sucking, but now this is absolutely unbearable.
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>>572291531
This is bait
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>>572296264
I don't think sega actually cared what happened to the freedom fighters during the 2000s. The only reason they stepped in during Sally's death is because Archie was not allowed to feature brutal onscreen death like that with the Sonic IP. This came up multiple times. I'm sure you're familiar with the rejected shot of Sally's dead hand.
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>>572296372
See you tomorrow.
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>>572296130
> I was talking about Lily/Starly
Oh. Those unused designs. I find it funny how people always love unused designs and how the creator picks designs which others don't prefer.
What did you think of the "goth" Tails? she's also in the unused designs portion.
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>>572294128
Lmao momthrowers read tea leaves to justify their ship and then accuse everyone else of being delusional. Get real, a child could see that rouge and shadow are supposed to have a romantic dynamic from 06 to Shadgens.

>rouge and shadow are just... business partners. Stop reading into their interactions
>KNUCKLES AND ROUGE ONLY FIGHT AND INSULT EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY LOVE ONE ANOTHER, JUST LIKE MY PARENTS.
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>>572296532
why are you talking about this like this is a meaningful project and not someone just going "computer, generate a tails character sheet"
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>>572295284
Ian and Katie. These are the culprits
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AI psychosis is terrifying
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>>572296373
>>572291531
CANON.

And Rouge is Sonic's sister who he kisses on the mouth
They're not blood related.
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>>572296532
So you want Tails' little sister to be him but girl? Lame.
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>>572289339
Aren't you the guy who asked for Amy refsheets and then had a spergout for no reason?
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>>572296696
Rougefags are Mistyfags?
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>>572296481
Sally was penned as dying riiiight here though, on March 19, 1997, before fan outcry made Penders chicken out.
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My ships are based solely on what gets my dick hard which usually means it's a Tails ship.
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>>572296532
I think the moon patterns on her body (in the ones that have them) look excessive, otherwise they're okay. Still prefer Starly's design though

>>572296796
Considering Tails is fully replaced with a completely different character, that would have somewhat kept Tails in some form, if he didn't scrap the idea
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>>572296715
Because he's an untalented autist. Autists aren't creative nor have any imagination. They're technical-minded. They copy and follow instructions to the T. They're nerds. They can't create, they can only copy. It's disgusting.
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>>572296962
That's what I'm talking about. Sega told them to undo it. I'm pretty sure the reason is specifically because it portrays a sega character dying in a violent manner. They have literally never shown any sign of caring how the freedom fighters or even the diamond cutters are portrayed.
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I detect pajeets infecting this general. Someone post trains to scare them off.
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>>572296715
Because who do you think TOLD the AI to generate said specific designs? also creator is in the thread?
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>>572297182
>Because who do you think TOLD the AI to generate said specific designs?
Show your prompts.
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>>572296851
I'm pretty sure he is kek
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>>572296532
This isn't even a decent character sheet. The symbol on the shoes changes. The character description directly contradicts what is actually visible. The entire purpose of sheets like this is to coordinate people into keeping a character on model, something an AI cannot and will not do and doesn't have the capacity to set up. You wasted your time on this.
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>>572297073
It's cool, /ic/. AI won't take your art job. not until everyone owns a H100 to generate their own porn or learn to proxy for $20 a H100 to generate 500 Sonic smut
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>>572297302
>The entire purpose of sheets like this is to coordinate people into keeping a character on model, something an AI cannot and will not do and doesn't have the capacity to set up
It can. That guy just sucks at using it.
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>>572297182
"specific designs" and it's Amy dressed as a completely dissimilar character from Yu-yu Hakusho
>>572297430
I'll take your word for it then. The guy is just ass.
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What is the point of even shutposting on here? There's like max 5 anons on here at any given time.
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>>572297173
Why trains?

>>572297302
The hair strands are completely different in each pose too
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>>572297386
>he thinks he's going to be able to use or afford local models
>he thinks they'll let him use the latest frontier models when the government has ALREADY stepped in and banned use of mythos aside from the chosen few elite and megacorps
RAM and GPUs are the cheapest they'll ever be for years. People who thought AI would "democratize" anything are idiots.
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>>572296532
If you're only going to put 2 seconds of effort into your work you're not going to get much attention or interest from people. This will be forgotten and fall into obscurity because it's not even a project. There's nothing worth getting invested in. If I wanted to read an AI generated story pitch I could just generate it myself. Duofag mogs you
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>>572297542
Trains are the natural predator of pajeets.
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>>572297110
Source that it was Sega?
...Come to think of it, is there a source it was the fan messages? This website that the wiki cited seems delusional. Seems like it was a scheduling issue and someone else un-wrote it to be happier when Penders' back was turned.
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>>572297542
god damn it 06 had some real bits of kino despite playing like ass
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>>572295993
Sonic WAS a kaiju and kaiju fighter until Sonic 2006 when they jumped the shark into anime bullshit territory with existential powers. They fucked themselves into a corner with Solaris, Time Eater, and The End
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People are actually reading this? also I think this link got posted somewhere else but here. >>572289339
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmcEuocbSMAPH0Cdu0neR7qOYrOad6dB_PXEnPRM24Y/edit?tab=t.0


>>572297281
>Document owner left a link to downloading the images and a link to his Discord.
Well, who's going to wake him up?

Owner, if you're in here then modify your document with something at the end. What do we make him write, /sthg/?
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>>572297693
I miss the old internet.
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>>572297693
I've spent the last 30 minutes looking for it and I can't find it. I simply can't prove it until I do. There was a video I was looking for that also explained that Fiona was originally pitched as an endgame love interest for Sonic. Disagreements over this idea is what lead to her changing and becoming evil.
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It's funny watching newfags realize that Ian fucked over the Archie comics really hard by being an autist over and over again. I've been watching it happen on here for like 7 years now.
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>>572298054
>went overboard with the teen drama date crap until archie cannot be posted anymore without pissing off game purists
>decanonized light mobius anyways because le problematic tails ship
>cuck amy
>psychotic rouge
>doormat shadow
why did people hail him as the guy who "fixed archie" again?
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>>572297860
>Disagreements over this idea is what lead to her changing and becoming evil.
I thought that was unironically Ian Flynn's fault unless you're referring to robo-Fiona?
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>>572297842
They didn't, it's fine to continue making one off monsters like that.
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>>572298054
People blame Ian or Penders but the reality is that SEGA would have shuttered Archie anyways and replaced them with IDW because of the whole "multimedia" meme every company is pushing.

It's part of consolidation. They want you to have to read the comics, watch the movies, and play the games. Blame Marvel and Star Wars.
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k i opened the link. now i have to ask ... why didn't SEGA ever partner up with UBISOFT?
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>>572297073
No wonder whiteboard is always exactly the same, empty and dead.
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>>572298269
The second they showed Sonic kissing anyone they put a death sentence on that canon
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>>572298196
>why did people hail him as the guy who "fixed archie" again?
Because Yardley was drawing
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>Naka (in charge of sonic team until 2006) hated 90s american sonic
>Iizuka (in charge of sonic team from 2007 to now) hates 90s american sonic
there was literally never an avenue for archie to be taken seriously
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>because of the whole "multimedia" meme every company is pushing.
Something that only really works in franchises without a centralized canon or a basic premise meant to be used as a diverging step.
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>>572297110
>>572297693
She really should've stayed dead.
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>>572298524
And so Yardley will be remembered as Sonic's hidden greatest monster.
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>>572298524
I don't like Yardely's overexaggerated expressions
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>>572298524
It makes me sad to see so many amazing artists like Yardley just fall into obscurity because the comics industry is just dead.

Archie was really beautiful at times. I hope Yardley is financially stable for the rest of his life.
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>>572298269
>replaced them with IDW because of the whole "multimedia" meme every company is pushing
It doesn't work like that. IDW approached SEGA for the license. All SEGA needs to do is sit on their ass collecting those sweet sweet licensing fees.
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>>572298579
>>572298269
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You know that design of Surge in a dress with big titties? Yardley is the one who designed that. He drew that and posted it to his twitter a few years ago but deleted it. You cannot find it anywhere on any of his profiles. For some reason he erased every trace of posting it. The only evidence you can even find of it comes from 4chan now.
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>>572297651
Yeah, true

>>572298565
>from 2007
*2010
It was Nishiyama in between
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>Why does Sonic spawn so many autistic crazy ideas.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/1feh01d/do_any_of_you_know_about_sonics_forgotten_origin/

Jeez I wonder why. Like father like son, /sthg/.
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>>572298771
no i don't
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>>572298054
People nowadays take a bit to understand that before Ian took over, Archie Sonic was basically ending. Most of the stories were already neatly ties up and didn't need anymore readdressing. Ian was the one to dig up Fiona's trauma and rewrite her character. Ian was the one who decided to make Sally play the "will they won't they" game with Sonic for years. He was the one to re-introduce the Iron Dominion for no reason. He was the one who kept on trying to tie up shit from the Knuckles comic that hadn't been relevant for years. He was the one to bring back Downunda just so he could decanonize a ship he didn't like.

The guy basically walked in at an already mostly finished book and decided to write out two new sequels from pure rehashed material that was OOC to even the characters exclusive to the book.
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>>572298579
Yeah, but it won't stop SEGA from trying. They're going to shove AI into this franchise too and that will probably be what kills off the existing fanbase who still plays these games.

Everything is getting fake and stale, not even gay and fake because that would at least imply colorfulness and fruitiness. Everything is being ground down into a grey goo slurry for pig people to mindlessly slurp up.

I should just go live in the boonies of Colorado/Wyoming and ride out societal collapse while hoarding money. The ignorant masses are getting too much to bear.
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Dow
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>>572297842
Those were literal Kaiju though
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i remember thinking archie was fucked the second they were hit with "sonic doesn't cry". I remember being annoyed by that because I could feel it coming. Archie Sonic is a guy that cries. If Sega was willing to get mad about that minor difference from the games that means they would eventually start dropping rules like bricks for every difference from the games. Now here we are. IDW is a boring filler slog.
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>>572298196
Clap at the reference and connections was enough back then.
Also Tracey's Art carried him.
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>>572298916
There's something impressively amazing about this
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>>572299120
Why blame Sega and not the people mischaracterizing Sonic in the first place?
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>>572298853
That's an excellent backstory and I will fight anyone who denies it.

Sonic is a mascot first and foremost and like any mascots they need spirit.


THIS: is what Sonic would have been like and should have honestly been like 100% so people stop fucking thinking that Sonic has integrity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXcsR8PUh3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEajLyGsLAI

Madonna+Michael Jackson+Sonic the Hedgehog CD shoud have happened and it ruined the Sonic marketing IP because it didn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5OMJoihs0Y&list=RDf5OMJoihs0Y&start_radio=1
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I'd rather Sally be Tails' big sister.
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>>572298249
>They didn't
They did and they'll keep doing it. Powers that the villain has now need to be so broken to have anything resembling a threat. Watch as one of the next villains be somehow stronger than or equal to Infinite. I bet it'll be the power of dreams
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>>572299373
I wonder what happened to that AIeditanon?
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>>572299373
>i'd rather undermine Tails's concept by giving him a familial connection before his first ever friend Sonic
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>>572299496
>I bet it'll be the power of dreams
We did that since the classic and adventure era. We had Lumina and Void and NiGHTS
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>>572299297
Ironically SEGA SUCKS at SELLING OUT Sonic the Hedgehog despite that's what Sonic is: a sell out like Mickey Mouse.
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>>572297693
>According to a recent post, he had originally intended that the "Sally" to have been awakened in #50 be yet another double. Sonic would have discovered this after about a year, during which Sally would have exhibited uncharacteristic behavior and the two would have drifted apart. This plot line did not fly in story conference, and since Ken is going to be spending most of his time working on Knuckles stories, it's been shelved.
OK, 1) I can't tell if doppelganger-Sally as a fakeout of a fakeout is brilliant or shitty, 2) this seems to go against the populaf narrative that the comic was planned to end with them kissing at #50.
...3) they could have worked with this and made an evil-Sally replace Robotnik as the main villain. Imagine Robotnik made a copy-Sally like he did Fiona that took her place and gaslit Sonic? It'd be Mimic done right.
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>>572298916
I mean tooooo be fair, how else was he going to continue the story without ending it?
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>>572299605
Boys need positive male role models to not be weird. Sally has her brains, but Sonic is cool and strong. Even with Sally teaching him the tech stuff, he still wants to be cool and strong so he won't be bullied and seen as a freak anymore.
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Tails should have sex with Sally. This would be beneficial to both characters, trust.
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>>572299297
>Animators make Michael accidentally kick Alvin in the butt
SEGA has too much of an ego to allow the king of pop to kick Sonic in his tail even accidentally.

Sonic Maurice Sega is like that whore who teases you but never delivers cause she thinks she's above everyone else rather than a leech.
Mario knows his place unlike Sonic.
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>>572299921
You're a porn addict who doesn't care about the characters at all.
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>>572300021
Okay but they should still fuck.
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My sonic thread got deleted from /v/ by jannys. I just wanted to discuss ideas for a sonic rpg. I hate /v/
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>>572299789
The point of Tails' character is that he is weird. He doesn't care about "not being seen as a freak", he embraces the things that make him stand out and uses them to his advantage. Sonic likes being weird, so a character like Tails actually finds its roots into Sonic's own character to begin with. Tails is also innately smart and interested in technology, he doesn't need to learn that from someone else
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>>572300179
Sorry to hear that, scribbles.
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ok but seriously consider the following<
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>>572300249
who tf is scribbles... Why do /v/ jannys hate sonic so much?
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>>572300194
>he embraces the things that make him stand out
I thought his entire thing before meeting Sonic was being bullied because of it?
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>>572300179
>I just wanted to discuss ideas for a sonic rpg
>came back crying because you didn't want to do that here
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>>572299428
Sonurge porn comic when???
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>>572299951
The "Sonic should never cry, never lose, never be threatened because he is our brand" makes him give off mary sue vibes which is why its hard to sell sonic to people who aren't autistic.

Even mario takes Ls.
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>>572299789
>Sonic and Sally are the 2 most important people in his life
>he wants to be the best parts of them put together and more
>but then Sally dies
>Tails loses it but Sonic is there to keep him stable
>at least he still has Sonic
>Forces happens and now Sonic is dead?
>no...
>they're gone...
>both of them...
>he breaks
>the 2 most important people to him
>the 2 people who made him who he is
>they're both gone
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The only type of JRPG I could imagine Sonic working in is something like in the Tales or Xenoblade series. Traditional JRPG turn based combat just doesn't fit the "speedy hedgehog who likes going fast" aesthetic.
Then again I'm autistic about ludonarrative.
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>>572300410
Yes, then after seeing Sonic he decides to embrace it instead
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>>572300393
Sorry I thought you were the guy making chronicles in unity with every single Sonic character.
And /v/ just hates fun.
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>>572300527
it's a good thing sega never makes games that undermine sonic's concept
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>>572300410
>I thought his entire thing before meeting Sonic was being bullied because of it?
Yeah. That Tailsfag is just making shit up.
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>>572300509
Sonic does lose a number of times in the games. What you're whining about is him not getting depressed over it
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If it isn't the 4th wheel
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>>572298916
>Ian was the one who decided to make Sally play the "will they won't they" game with Sonic for years.
As always, anything is fine when Sally does it with him.
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>>572300524
Tails either becomes depressed shut-in, suicidal or snaps and tires to kill Eggman.
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>>572300439
Honestly its cause I dont use /vg/
>>572300527
Idk i like the concept of really going far with it, they are all trying a vr game or something so classic traditional combat where sonic doesnt have to run fast and everyone feels equal giving a sense of teamwork rather than relying on sonic.
>>572300556
Lmao why would someone do that chronicles sucks if you are gonna waste your time with that why not make a fresh sonic rpg fan game, neither will profit but at least the new rpg wont be as shit "hopefully"
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>>572299428
Yeah man, I know I am not media literate.

They aimed on rival and made another fucking tsundere.
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>>572300654
I'm just trying to establish what kind of RPG we're going for here so we could have a discussion.
Honestly Frontiers kind of has a half-made skeleton of what could become a Sonic RPG in my head. What I imagine it would be ideally is a combat system that relies on you getting combos in as fast as you can to ramp up damage but if you get hit or run around for too long then you lose the damage and bonus effects.
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>Make a female character who wants to be a hero but hates sonic
the only way this ends is tsundere
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>>572300830
>another tsundere ship
Honestly why. It's the worst shipping trope. Literally all the tsundere pairings in this franchise are shit
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Tsunderefags ruined surge and shadow
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>>572300694
It's in the Sonic 2 manual:
>When he was little, everyone bullied him for his two tails. But thanks to Sonic, the two tails have become a "sign of vitality."
Tails after meeting Sonic isn't trying to "be cool and strong so he won't be bullied and seen as a freak anymore" like that anon said. He is cool because of his tails, not in spite of them. You are missing the entire point of both characters
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>>572300179
Classy dress Amy is wearing
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>>572300819
>VR with Sonic
I'm sorry anon, I'm gonna have to stop you right there. The only way I'm playing a VR Sonic game is if it's a remade version on Black Knight. Any Sonic game with VR sounds like a fast way to get motion sickness.
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>>572301287
retard, not a vr game. The story is the gang plays a vr game together. Pls read properly next time, dont shit yourself at the words "VR". Its just a plot device to give an excuse why they arent super fast and whatever.
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>>572300991
>We're tired of tsunderes
I got the answer.
yanderes

Sonic is about to get snu snu'd.
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Foxy momma.
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>Sonic and Amy meeting at the beach
>Sonic and Amy sharing bread
>Sonic and Amy holding hands
>Sonic and Amy going for a walk
>Sonic and Amy getting their feet wet
>Sonic and Amy proceed.
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>>572301485
> What happened to Tails after they let him get groomed on discord
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>>572300819
>chronicles sucks
That's just the codename we use since Chronicles is our only frame of reference. The fangame he's making is actually closer to Persona style with team attacks, and is an everythingfag's wet dream.
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>>572301259
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>>572301451
How you worded it made me think you were saying SEGA was trying to make a vr game.

I dont think you need to flatten everyone's powers to make an RPG work. Like I said earlier, Frontiers already has a barebones system for how to level up a character in both battles and in world exploration. But what idea do you have with this vr world thing?
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>Sonic and Surge crossing paths at the beach (hostile at first)
>Sonic and Surge reluctantly sharing bread (she steals half)
>Sonic and Surge holding hands (electricity crackling between them)
>Sonic and Surge going for a tense walk along the shore
>Sonic and Surge getting their feet wet in the waves
>Sonic and Surge proceed.
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>>572300179
turn based or action?
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>>572301924
Imagine if Toby Fox (and ONLY toby fox, none of the other writers) got full creative control over the sonic lore
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>>572301924
forced ooc ship
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>>572301217
This is what they dont get. They dont understand that the game characters have "points" to them. The point of Tails is that he embraces his eccentricities.

Same with Amy and love, etc.
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>>572302185
It's only OOC if you hate IDW
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>>572301719
Troons wish they could turn into cyborgs or robot transformers. They can't even bioengineer themselves correctly, that's how much of a failure they are.
Worms are more biologically superior than troons.
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>>572301874
idk i just like job systems and classes so my idea was they all try out a new vr game that tails was working on, its a medieval rpg or something and thats it, traditional story of beating the game or something but in place of lame bad guys tails put their regular enemies in, half way through the game eggman hacks in or something and makes himself the final boss. Would be funny seeing eggman as a darknight final boss vs the gang.
>>572301979
Personally i prefer turn based combat. Dragon quest 3 style not shitty post final fantasy 3 atb combat.
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Never gonna play Undertroon or Deltatroon. Take your deranged fandom elsewhere faggot.
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>Surge and Amy in a ferris wheel
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>>572301485
Sonic is asking how am I going to fuck all that? I'm going to need hypersonic for this one.
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>>572302243
Which every sane person does.
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>>572302280
It's not like you're playing Sonic, either.
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>>572302250
based
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>>572302265
For simplicity sake, that works out but I personally like some more meat on the bones tha just "traditional JRPG isekai romp".

I'd at least have fun with the setting like characters mixing in their own themes in the middle of battle and others commenting on it or Shadow overusing and blasting his edgy theme songs so much that you can hear it from a distance.
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>>572302243
Shit man, I don't even think it's OOC for Sonic to fall for a tsundere that wants to kill him
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>>572301217
You're missing this point
>But thanks to Sonic
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>>572301924
Just finished Chapter 1, half way though Chapter 2
Susie is how I wish Surge was written
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>>572302565
I've played most every 3D Sonic game and sans the niche 90's titles and Colors, every 2D game.
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>>572299789
Sally Acorn as you saw her in Satam would never let Tails feel like a freak. She would give him all the love in the world. The entire conflict of his character wouldn't exist.
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>>572302830
In other words, he learns to accept himself because of Sonic. Post-Sonic 2.
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JPfags are attached to the characters in a way that is similar to a religion.

Westfags are attached to the brand in a way that is like doomscrolling algorithm retention.

Respond if you wish for elaboration.
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Sonic would love Surge because being around her is literally going on an adventure
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>>572302748
Oh yeh its gotta have tons of sonic references and such. Like sonic trying to go fast and slipping since he cant go fast here, amy offering to help him up but him brushing her off. I think a good plot point would be amy finally getting sick of sonics rejections in front of others and becoming an enemy of one dungeon. Once beaten she decides to rejoin the team but only if sonic stops mistreating her in front of others.
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>>572301864
I'd like to see Amy wear this dress in the canon and animations as an alternative to her default outfit. Sonic would be left speechless
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>>572303039
You understand Sonurge
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The person above this post is a filthy fucking nigger kike and you should tell him to stop stealing shekels.
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I-I-I love little boys
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>>572295615
The reason I wanted to go for the GC ports, aside from consistency with Shadow 05 is cause the PC port of Heroes is more complicated to set up, doesn't really have huge pros besides cosmetic mods and it doesn't have Retro Achievement support.
The PS3 is famously pretty laxed when it comes to sharing games from different accounts, simply add a new profile with a foreign based alt account, buy the region exclusive games, download it, switch to your main account profile and there we go.
Also PS3 games are not retrocompatible, not even PS2 digital re-releases.
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>>572302876
My bad.
Why not, though? Is it because of fandom, meta humor, grey troll thing or people being different?
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>>572302886
She can give him all the love in the world and he can still feel like a freak anyway. She's his sister. Of course she loves him and doesn't see him like that. But others do, and that's the problem. But everyone loves Sonic, even him. He's the coolest guy in the world. If he can cool like that, then people would accept him.
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>>572303085
Stop stealing my shekels kike.
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>>572302830
What do you think I'm missing? I mentioned "thanks to Sonic" in the post where you claimed I was "making shit up"
>The point of Tails' character is that he is weird. He doesn't care about "not being seen as a freak", he embraces the things that make him stand out and uses them to his advantage. Sonic likes being weird, so a character like Tails actually finds its roots into Sonic's own character to begin with.
Seeing Sonic inspired Tails to be confident in himself the way he is. Tails was always inherently cool, he just didn't realize it by himself because of his personality
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>>572303245
So your answer is to make Tails FUCKING ROYALTY
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>>572303245
You're just muddying the character's concept and making it have less punch and making it less clear at that point for no reason.
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>>572301719
>What happened to Tails after she visited /pol/ for the weekend.

that download link is a goldmine for getting ideas.
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>>572303147
They make me feel so good.
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>>572303430
>has to specify it's a female
I'd fuck this even if it was a boy wearing eyeliner.
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so are we just like forgetting that sally's goal in life is to userp eggman and reclaim the throne because that process would make Tails a crowned prince with a permanent state of expectations. He would be known as Prince Miles Acorn because both characters have surnames and it would be a lot of convoluted bullsht
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>>572303159
Thanks for the info. I think Sony would benefit from having at least some backwards compatibility on newer hardware similar to Xbox
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>>572302864
Who is Susie?
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>>572303413
>You're just muddying the character's concept
How so?
>making it have less punch
No? It expands on what's already there.
>and making it less clear at that point for no reason
How is it "less clear"?
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Just make Sally Tails' gf. It takes literally nothing away from either. You people are stupid.
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>>572303695
Inb4 "youre overthinking it"
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>>572303758
She's talking about Deltarune.
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>>572303540
>>572303147
>>572303660
You're 18 year old "girls", right?
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>>572303758
Barney the Dinosaur but female
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>>572303767
>No? It expands on what's already there
Its vestigial and doesn't add anything to Tails himself. Its a derail.
None of that stuff has anything yo do with his character or themes.

>How is it "less clear"?
You're trolling.
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>>572303876
She?
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>>572303695
>so are we just like forgetting that sally's goal in life is to userp eggman and reclaim the throne
Literally just Sonic 2 game wise. Then Sonic 3 happens like a week later.
>because that process would make Tails a crowned prince with a permanent state of expectations
He's the prince but Sally's the one set to rule.
>He would be known as Prince Miles Acorn because both characters have surnames
Sally isn't Acorn in SatAM. She's just Princess Sally. Her dad is also just The King.
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Tailsfags
Tailsfrens
Tailsgirls
Tailsgays ....

Sonic is fucking Satan >>572301485
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>>572303245
Sonic doesn't care about being accepted by people.
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>>572304091
This isn't even Sally anymore this is just your red OC
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>>572303973
>its vestigial and doesn't add anything to Tails himself
It gives him a background, which he had zero.
<None of that stuff has anything yo do with his character or themes
Bullshit. Just say you hate Sally, dude.
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>>572304107
That's not Tails, that's a completely different character.
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>>572304091
>Sally isn't Acorn in SatAM. She's just Princess Sally. Her dad is also just The King.
Acorn came from the show bible and iirc got used in homerelease media.
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>>572304107
Sonic has got to be fucking Satan for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zcCUYdCC9F0
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Right so instead of learning tech on his own like a badass he had to learn it from the town bicycle
you could literally just watch Mr. Robot for this plot
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>>572304361
>which he had zero
False, see the Sonic 2 manual and Tails Adventures
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>>572304137
>Sonic doesn't care about being accepted by people
Where did I say he did?
>>572304296
>This isn't even Sally anymore this is just your red OC
Bro, what are you talking about? Sally isn't Sally Acorn in SatAM. That's Archie. I didn't invent that.
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>>572303915
close enough
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>>572304091
I think it's cool to reinterpret characters to fit in the games but unfortunately I have to agree that making Sally and Tails biologically related is a bridge too far. Sally is so maternal that she would render the idea of Tails being an orphan pointless. Especially when Sally herself is not an orphan.
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>>572304463
>Acorn came from the show bible
Which the actual show deviated from. Archie was based on that bible.
>got used in homerelease media.
Years after the fact because of Archie. Hurst's Sally isn't Acorn.
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>>572304405
Yeah man nobody's denying that's not Tails, that's Lucifer.

Tails is definitely the Nine Tails.

>>572304593
That's not Sallyfren.
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>>572304593
That's not a Tails fan. People who like Tails don't want to replace him with a completely different character that has nothing to do with him and pretend it's still the same character or an improvement or anything like that
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>>572304361
>It gives him a background
Tails already has a background and a thematic hook and purpose.
You arent giving him something you arent adding somrthing. You are overwriting his existing character to shill another.


Its like when Archie made up Amy being from some Euro estate to introduce Rob as her cousin. None of it had anything to do eith Amy herself nor did it add anything to herself.
It actually just ends up raising more questions than anything and not in a good way.
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>>572304606
>see the Sonic 2 manual
He was bullied. The end.
>Tails Adventures
Not Sonic Team canon.
>Tails being an orphan
Show me a game that states Tails is an orphan. Show me a manual.
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Sonic is definitely fucking Satan it's right there in his name.

The Blue Blur is definitely The Fucking Devil himself.
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>>572305019
>Not Sonic Team canon.
Sonic Team considers it canon nowadays

>>Tails being an orphan
I've never said this
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>>572305002
>It actually just ends up raising more questions than anything
What questions?
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>>572304361
Sally in Satam has a family to go back to and a kingdom to rule. Tails works on a rusty looking makeshift workshop by the mystic ruins. His closest connection should always be Sonic.
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>>572305019
Tails is an orphan and fell from a tree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wz5AxRnjY0

Tails also didn't know he was a fox, he thought he was a bird or a bug. Bugs fly, right? He probably he was a bee considering he's yellow.
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>>572305142
>I've never said this
Not you. Meant to reply to this guy >>572304797
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>>572305171
Bro wants me to copy paste thread
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>>572305270
Is that still Christopher Welch voicing baby Tails? he's got the most feminine voice I've ever heard.
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This is why I hate "Tailsko" garbage. I've seen very few female Tails designs that don't destroy the character in the process
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>>572305447
Tailsko was always a porn character
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>>572305364
State your questions. You day it brings up too many questions. Such as?
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>>572305270
>Tails thought he was a bug

Tails is fucking pic related. Called it.
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>>572305270
This is actually a pretty respectable interpretation for the west for Sonic meeting Tails actually. AoStH keeps surprising me.
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>>572305270
You're trolling.
>>572305194
>Tails works on a rusty looking makeshift workshop by the mystic ruins
In SA1, yeah.
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who set off the besties today
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>>572305664
*urp* that was me sorry
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>>572305510
Yeah. Tailsko isn't Tails, it's a woman wearing Tails iconography
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Uh oh. Anti-archieschizo Melty.
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>>572305408
Bestieschizo will now link to this falseflag as evidence for yhe next few threads.
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>>572305649
You autists suck at being funny.
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>>572305270
Tails is fucking pic related. I called it. And Sonic was Devilman all along. You guys suck if you never watched Devilman or read the manga.
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>>572305971
Tails is GAY??
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>>572299585
>I wonder what happened to that AIeditanon?
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>>572305660
Tails was already familiar with the Mystic Ruins long before SA1, though we don't know the details of that. Someone theorized maybe the MR were intended to be Westside Island but idk about that
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>>572305270
>Maybe I'm a bird
>Maybe I'm a bug.
>YOU'RE A FOX.
>I am?

>AND FOXES DON'T FLY
>Hey you got TWO Tails
>Doesn't everyone?

Yep Tails is a fucking shapeshifting nine tails legend.
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>>572305514
Why hasn't this meaningfully impacted the character's behavior attitude, view of life
Why is this only being brought up now
What is there name now
Who are there parents
How or why is Tails even allowed to leave with Sonic in the first place
Why is he in thr mystic ruins.


I could go on


I imagine you are just gonna give 2 bit explanations to each of these, and when I bring up how you have derailed the character so far from what their theme is about as to render them a function and a novelty with no theme or message, you'll just dismiss me while saying "I just hate Sally" again.
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>>572306179
Sonic can sit in the cuck chair while I plap all the mobian girls
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>>572306013
Naaahh zoomerino. Tails is a goddamn seraphim. Do you know what a seraphim is?
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>>572305002
>Archie made up Amy being from some Euro estate to introduce Rob as her cousin.
lmao what
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SA2 Sonic is drawn differently from modern Sonic wtf
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>>572303749
Will have to wait till the PS6 for backwards compatibility with the PS3 since it's a mess of a system hardware-wise, why I did find sucky is having to re-buy emulated PS2/PS1 games you bought on the 7th gen PSN, Sony just couldn't keep your purchase valid on their new infrastructure.
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>>572306186
>Tails was already familiar with the Mystic Ruins long before SA1
Source?
>Someone theorized maybe the MR were intended to be Westside Island
That's what I thought. It means Tails just went home after Sonic fucked off after 3&K.
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>>572306262
The Nine Tails was AN ANGEL all along? so that's why Tails wants to go to heaven and even above it. God is waiting for him and he's fucking ----- (this anon has been murdered by God)
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>>572306464
Adventure Sonic lives
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In Archie, Amy's uncle had Mighty's parents executed for their crimes
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>>572305270
>Blonde
>Flies
>Multiple appendages
>Been lost for a long time and has amnesia and doesn't know what the fuck kind of species he is.
>Behaves like an alien.
Yep. Tails is an angel alright. Pack it up guys. We've finished his enigmatic backstory. Everyone prepare to get murdered by SEGA as they force us to sign contracts to not reveal Tails is fucking Satan.
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>>572306610
In SA1 he mentions that the MR looked a lot different before humans came along and built the train station. It's his idle dialogue in the workshop/train station area
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oh god, Duo is having a fit again...
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>>572306908
Can you please stop trying to force your retarded unfunny meme overwrite of the character?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw1vHIChI6o
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>>572306186
>>572306932
Now I'm not saying The Nine Tails is fucking Satana, but Tails could be an angelic being and he's obviously misplaced by falling and wants to find his way back home.
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>>572306908
The thing about headcanons is that they're difficult to follow if you reinvent the wheel. Tails is an important character many people care about, he's not like Nazo where you can just fill in the blanks.
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>>572306302
Bro, either you're completely misunderstanding what I'm trying to do here, or you're being disingenuous because it involves Sally. The answers to these questions are in my previous posts. Pay attention.
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>>572307267
>>572307281
What does Japanese folklore, Buddhism and Christianity say about Sonic?
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even the "silver is shadow's son" requires less retarded convolution than this
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It's like you guys want something to be mad about.
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>>572307267
This has nothing to do with Tails' character. You can make your AI AU, but if you want my opinion, I think it's garbage and it misses the appeal of the Sonic series, and it also has no reason to be attached to Sonic at all when it has basically nothing significant in common left. You're better off making it your own original series, you already made up these characters from scratch anyway
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>>572306443
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Rob_o%27_the_Hedge

Here you go.
Its a cheap way to try and make you care about a character and there lore by leeching them to a game character.
Archie did this a lot and it was dumb.
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The King is a fox. Her father is a fox. Sally is a fox. Tails is a fox. Fiona is a fox. >>572290552 it all goes back to the Kyuubi legend. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-tailed_fox
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>>572307408
You're not even trying at this point.
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>>572307767
I'm not the owner, I just like what he did. If you want to talk to the owner then you have to go inside his Discord den which not even I dare go inside.
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Do you write fanfics, anon?
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>>572305649
That is pretty funny.
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>>572307951
Well iirc you did say you'd never come back here because we were too autistic and useless for you after you decided to convince yourself that we've never watched Yu Yu Hakusho for some reason, so at least you're trying to keep that personality IC by keeping it on Discord. I don't believe that narrative though, I do think I am talking to the owner right now
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>>572306464
What's the difference...?
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>>572308136
Bro why does your bug look like a sparkledog? and why does your dog look like a fox?
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>>572289325
Why do you think Ian made her a lesbian? It’s so she wouldn’t touch other men despite her being shown to do that
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>Hazbin Hotel fags found the thread
So that explains all the satanic imagery.

VIVZIEPOP YOU FAT FUCK DON'T TOUCH OUR SONIC.
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>>572308001
I want to write horror fan fictions. one to think of it, Sonic Team ought to make Sonic-based survival horror game
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I'm almost certain that over half this thread was some schizo with a 4chan pass replying to themselves. Nothing else explains why we suddenly started going 4 times as fast as we usually go.
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Sage; “UUGGHH I NEED SOMEONE TO FUCK ME!”

Bump’s -2 IQ ass in the corner of the room;
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>>572308459
You don't recognize your sparklebees?

Tails is a bee, /sthg/.
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>>572307910
Trying what? To explain myself?
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>>572308001
I want to start writing some, I have a few cool ideas that have potential

Not including ones of my OCs
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This is the future of the internet thanks to AI: flooding it with schizos spouting babble.
Remember:
>the goal is to make using these communities less interesting
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>>572309121
...
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can he make honey?
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Tails is a cute small fox boy with two tails that he can use to fly, he is also innately smart and learned to pilot vehicles as well as build and program machines all by himself
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>>572306186
Not that Anon, but I thought so because the ancient civilization of West Side Island mentioned in the Japanese Sonic 2 manual sounds A LOT like the echidnas. Meaning Angel Island broke off from there, and it's actually the same Emerald-abusing civilization.
>>572306932
Wait, he actually mentions humans? That's rare. Outside of Gerald's dialogue in SA2, they're usually just vaguely called "people" like everyone else.
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>The average Sonicfan
>The average Hazbinfag

>>572309121
>Not calling her a carpenter bee
Missed opportunity. Albeit she works with metal, not wood.
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>>572308795
Are you one of those Sonic .exe fags?

>>572309223
Why don't you write then? What kind of ideas do you have?
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>>572309360
I feel like western writers are allergic to the idea of "innateness". Its like everything has to be the product of environmental factors.

Tails was always cool. He was always smart. He was always good at tech. He just needed the wind in his sails to get him to realise it!
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>>572309720
>Tails was always cool
lol
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>>572309486
Sorry, the exact quote is "This place sure changed a lot since they built this station", at least in English. There is no explicit mention of humans, I just came to that conclusion myself since it seems logical

>Not that Anon, but I thought so because the ancient civilization of West Side Island mentioned in the Japanese Sonic 2 manual sounds A LOT like the echidnas. Meaning Angel Island broke off from there, and it's actually the same Emerald-abusing civilization.
This makes sense, and also how they were connected. The only reason I find this lacking is because I was always under the impression the MR are part of a continent, not an island, but I guess it's never actually said

>>572309720
Yep
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>>572309791
You know what I mean. Tails' traits that made him different were always gifts.
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>>572309720
>I feel like western writers are allergic to the idea of "innateness".
Jap fiction has teachers and mentors, bro. What are you talking about? You can have the talent but still need a guiding hand because you're still just a dumb kid who doesn't know any better.
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>"Dumb computer. STOP BEEPING!"
Why did the cartoons completely fail to utilize Tails in his proper capacity?
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>>572309941
He hacked a gate in SatAM.
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>>572309720
Nobody actually believe in innate talent. If they truly did, there would be a monumental effort to locate and find these talented individuals and exploit or educate them. Everything in the world, in both eastern and western civilizations, heavily indicates that the people who call the shots don't think innate talent is real. They do think it's fostered, which is why they so desperately prevent anyone outside of their circles from ever obtaining stability, wealth, or an education, lest they get usurped by them.
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This retarded headcanon is working backwards from the idea of making Sally work instead of considering how fucking stupid it would be to have a story where Tails turns out to be part of a royal lineage
Also the other Sallyfag earlier today repeatedly brought up removing the fact that she likes other men. Why? I thought you wanted Sally back. Sally literally makes out with skunks and flirts with goats in front of her boyfriend. That's the character
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>>572309797 (Me)
And now the real quote after I actually checked instead of just confidently going off memory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y9BIuH9-i0 7:40
>This area sure has changed after they built this station
Same meaning, though
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>>572309651
First off, just because I have ideas with potential doesn’t mean they’d come out well if I wrote them.

Secondly, I’m very self conscious about my work. I’ll admit I’m shit at doing it.

Thirdly, I don’t wanna make an account on some website, get no traffic, and shut it down in a months time.

I already tried my hands at an original project and that went up in flames. And if I’m completely honest, I’ve been afraid to try again ever since.
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>>572309920
Fucking Goku had tons of masters to teach him the cool stuff.
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>>572309920
>surface level observation
Im tired man.

The narrative point of Tails' character is muddied by having him.be some royal prince whose cool big sis taught him tech.

It stops being his trait and becomes Sally's trait she emparted onto him. What does this add to his character thematically to push the themes of his character?

It just takes away his traits and makes them someone else's.
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>>572309651
I don't like Sonic.EXE. Sonic Team should make some kind of survival horror game where you have to hide from scary-looking monsters
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>>572310095
>considering how fucking stupid it would be to have a story where Tails turns out to be part of a royal lineage
He's the West Side Prince, so what? It's not a surprise. You're making a story up in your head that isn't like mine.
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>Actually Goku's super strength is because he's an alien
Ok
>And his dad who looked like him was actually the first Saiyan to rebel against freeza
Alright there kind of neat
>Actually his dad was a good guy
Wha-
>His mom and dad actually sent him to earth to save him from genocide and they were wholesome people
This is super man
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>>572310202
Goku's character and theme is about his desire to become stronger in an earnest way. Tails is about he himself realising his potential that he already has.

They arent the same.
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>>572309941
I don't think the games had him as a tech wiz until Tails Adventure (1995), after the two cartoons.
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>>572309621
welder bee
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>>572309797
>The only reason I find this lacking is because I was always under the impression the MR are part of a continent, not an island, but I guess it's never actually said
There's the theory that SA1 is on the SA2 map. See the dark-green to the north? That'sthe Mystic Ruins, with Station Square to the southwest and Angel Island to the southeast.
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>>572310285
>It stops being his trait and becomes Sally's trait she emparted onto him
She didn't teach him how to be smart, dude. He was born smart, just like Sally. She helped him foster it so he could grow up to be a better genius than her. Took that raw talent and refined it into a skill.
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>>572310095
Sonallyfags trying to remove actual character traits of Sally wasn't on my bingo card
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>>572310473
>Tails is about he himself realising his potential that he already has.
SA1, yeah. The Sally stuff is pre-SA1.
>They arent the same
Never said they were.
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>>572310535
This one really doesn't convince me at all
Also that would imply the MR are attached to SS
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Why does the lore team hate heterosexuality?
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>>572310446
They at least kept it in that they were low class. That's the important part.

>>572310476
Its 2026 and people still think this? He was always a tech guy. Its in his Sonic 2 bio. In Sonic 3 he makes a jewel radar to help find Angel Island. In Sonic The Fighters he makes the Lunar Fox.
Tails adventure he has the Remote Robot and thr Seafox
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Dude your Sally headcanon sucks harder than just taking the Archie version and haphazardly shoving her into the canon
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>>572310095
>Sally literally makes out with skunks
That's Archie Sally
>and flirts with goats in front of her boyfriend.
Sonic isnt her boyfriend. She stressed that to him.
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>>572310721
>Also that would imply the MR are attached to SS
Wasn't it always? It's just a quick train ride away.
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>>572310183
Well, I think you should do it. Even if it does not work well, you can just keep improving it. Don't think about getting traffic or approval from other people, just think about putting your ideas on paper for yourself and to create something fun.
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>>572310798
Explain how it sucks.
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>>572310829
>Sonic isnt her boyfriend. She stressed that to him.
What the fuck why
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>>572310554
>She didn't teach him how to be smart, dude
Tails being interested in tech is supposed to be something he personally found fulfillment in and was bullied for.
In your version, its something Sally taught him and he gets bullied for.
How do you not see how this buddies the character.

The point of Tails story is to teach people to embrace their autistic interests and eccentrisities.

Your version makes it all about Sally.
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>>572310798
A headcanon you vaguely know and are assuming things about. You're not in my head, so what do you know?
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I wish I could be a real mobian. a cute furry one.
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>>572310976
Fuck it

People, give me short ideas, and I’ll do at least one. Want to iron out my skills
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>>572310704
>SA1, yeah. The Sally stuff is pre-SA1.
No anon... It was always his character.
SA1 is about him learning to stand on his own without relying on Sonic.
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Archie Sally being ooc is going to take a minute to settle
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>>572310948
Maybe, but then it's incompatible with the idea that the MR are on Westside Island
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>>572311034
>Tails being interested in tech is supposed to be something he personally found fulfillment in and was bullied for
No, he was bullied for his tails. Origins even has one of the foxes pulling on them.
>Your version makes it all about Sally
Not even close.
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>>572311173
Every SatAM character was ooc in Archie
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Did you know the TMNT IDW comics managed to pull Venus out of the vault even though the creators of TMNT hated her and then they made it so that she is canonically the origin of the teenage mutant ninja turtles by having her be the person who went back in time and mutated them
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>>572311173
*post-ish50 Sally who was supposed to be her doppelganger.
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>>572311248
>No, he was bullied for his tails.
It was both.
>Origins
Origins is truncated for the sake of time. It isnt exhaustive.
>Not even close.
It is quite literally the point of you doing this.
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>>572311173
Literally Misty
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As Violet once said, Sally isn't Sonic's girlfriend. They're best friends who make out. Yes this is defined in the actual show in language children can understand.
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>>572311435
>It was both
No, you're thinking of Sonic X.
>It is quite literally the point of you doing this
It really isn't. Sally has her story and Tails has his own. They overlap because they're family, but they reach different destinations in the end.
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>>572311152
Try to write about Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles having fun or something else that you like. I don't know. In the end, fanfics are something that you do to have fun.
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What are these fucking schizo ramblings?
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>>572311567
I don't know shit about pokemon please elaborate
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>>572311152
Sonic's friends roll into balls permanently and decides that life is more fun as balls; Eggman gets jealous.
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>>572311642
Hi, Violet.
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>>572310070
People do have different predispositions and abilities. Obviously a character like Tails is cartoonishly exaggerated, but there are people who can do certain things easier than others or learn certain subjects significantly faster

>which is why they so desperately prevent anyone outside of their circles from ever obtaining stability, wealth, or an education, lest they get usurped by them.
You got it the other way around. They make everyone believe that the only valid way (and before the Internet probably only way, unless maybe if you were already rich and powerful) to acquire knowledge is through the government's education system, which prioritizes obedience before learning, so people who might be dangerous to them are cut out of learning resources, or discouraged and ignored by society, while keeping the ones that are easier to manipulate.
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>>572311742
Someone either has an AI chatbot replying to itself or some anon is having an in-depth conversation with themselves.
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>>572311823
Is that the reason behind Evan's change?
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>>572310786
Japanese intention vs. American interpretation/tweaking.
Back then early on it could be played loose and altered since there's no spoken cutscenes or dialogue.
The cartoons had material supplied to them by SEGA of America. The American Sonic 2 manual basically describes Tails as an excited young kid. And Sonic 3's US manual doesn't mention Tails' radar
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>>572311786
Back in the 90s and early 2000s people would just assume the male lead and first female lead were boyfriend and girlfriend just because and form autistic ship cults around these pairings.

Pokemon's AshxMisty cult was so fierce they actively rallied together to send death treats to the show makers decades later when Ash got an actual love interest in Serena, doing so for no other reason than to sink it.
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Idk if it was the original intention, but I like it being both. It only being tech like in Sonic X undermines the tails though, they feel like an afterthought in that series
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>>572312258
That's based, we should do that and get rid of all shippers
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>>572311761
>>572312320
What are these
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>>572312026
There is the engine added to the Tornado after it gets shot down in Wing Fortress...
>And Sonic 3's US manual doesn't mention Tails' radar
The PC version help file uses a direct translation of the Japanese manual (just swapping Eggman with Robotnik) for the story. Makes you wonder where THAT translator was.
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>>572310070
>Nobody actually believe in innate talent
The schooling system is literally designed around the assumption of innate talent
You are way to young and naive if you believe that isnt how the world works.

There are literal efforts by companies to stimulate education in countries where people are known to be better at working woth A.I. right now for the purposes of recruiting them all before other firms do.

There is all thos discourse on brain drain etc.

Even if you dont want to believe in innate talent, predispositions are inarguable.
We are not the pure product of our environment. We are not even predominantly the product of said environment.
What is more accurate is people adapt to it rather than are purely shaped by it.
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>>572312490
Where's Eggman?
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>>572312258
Another similarity. In Satam when Sally and Sonic argue it's supposed to be funny. There is never a single drama moment between them. In Archie it's literally the same bullshit you get with every version of Mary Jan Watson
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>>572312582
>silver we wuz kangz
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>>572312485
>There is the engine added to the Tornado after it gets shot down in Wing Fortress...
Most people have never played the classics after the first or second zone
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>>572312885
Artist is a hardcore Sonurge queen btw
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>>572312583
Which countries?
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>>572312617
Betty and Veronica syndrome. Archie fucking comics.
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Still trying to make sense of a franchise that refuses to be logical? Tsk tsk.
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>>572312827
Is that a self report?

>>572312951
America
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>>572312617
At this point I don't tolerate people using Archie as a character reference because it fucked everything
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https://youtu.be/ZZ9AiP0IrgY
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>>572101856
Here's the full whiteboard. Thank you to everyone who showed up!
Full-res image is in the booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19682
PSD archive (includes uncensored boards):
https://mega.nz/folder/DKBSlDYb#GdR4FN7QFEOFtS_30ZT4_A
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>Archie is bad even for Sally and FFfags
Why do we defend it exactly?
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>>572313434
I love you all
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>inb4 duo melty
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kkYSvKjTUk
Good night everyone.
You won't see me for a month, on trip.
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You guys make anything? Like actual stuff. Art, stories, whatever
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>>572313579
Good night and stay safe.
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>>572312485
>Makes you wonder where THAT translator was.
My headcanon is that it was the mysterious STI woman who translated SEGA documents from Japanese to English all day

>>572313106
>Is that a self report?
No? I'm sure most people in this general have. I think most casuals have never seen Marble Zone though
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>>572313515
Stop responding yourself duo nigger
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>>572313579
Goodnight, enjoy the trip! :D
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>>572313828
Not your boogeyman
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>>572313434
It looks really empty....
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>>572313434
That Sonic
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>>572313434
This looks like fucking trash
>Another Minaslop
>empty as shit
>ocshit
>empty as shit
>Disgusting roadslop
0/10
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>>572313434
>Charmy's canadian
I'm afraid it's terminal...
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>>572313719
>I'm sure most people in this general have. I think most casuals have never seen Marble Zone though
How?
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>>572313871
You might as well be THE boogeyman which how much of spam, raid and astrosurfing shit you have done for years here. You're not fooling anyone
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>>572313434
Lame inside jokes, as usual.
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>>572312026
I can't really excuse the Sonic 2 manual, but Sonic 3 was released in the West way earlier than Japan (due to McDonald's tie-in) like about half a year. It's possible they just didn't have the full storyline ready. Reportedly, the delay was because Sonic Team wanted the Japanese version to be one cart, and there are even leaked proto ROMs of this version. But retailers were importing foreign copies so they decided to keep it in two carts like Western releases, hence Sonic & Knuckles is region-free and will work on any-region Sonic 3.
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>>572313434
Why are you still doing these if nobody cares about them.
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>>572313434
there's only 1 good drawing here
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>>572314043
I haven't. You're literally blaming me for shit i didnt do.
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>>572313739
Merch leak for next year?
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>>572313473
Cream the Rabbit!
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>>572314012
I've never seen a casual classic Sonic "fan" acknowledge it or anything after in Sonic 1. Sonic 1 ends at Green Hill, Sonic 2 ends at the underwater climb section in Chemical Plant.
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>>572310639
I have seen Sonallyfags admit they don’t care for Sally if she isn’t a love interest.
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>>572313434
This looks bad.
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>>572311682
“Fox!” Knuckles yelled. “Why is it called “Football” even though you use hands?”

“Well.” The fox began to ramble. “The term ‘football’ began as a blanket statement back in the Middle Ages to differentiate between games played on foot and on horseback. And besides, running was more common back for the sport until the forward pass was legalized in the mid 19 aughts.”

“What the kid said, Knux.” Sonic retorted, already used to the teaching lessons. Tails always learned everything he could about a subject before it became relevant. Sonic & Tails went into their huddle. “So, how far do you think you can throw?” Tails looked at the ball in his paws with a sense of apprehension.

“Not far.” He admitted.

“Well, just do the best you can, I’ll be sure to run wide open. You know I can do just that.” Sonic reassured with a wink. Game time.

Sonic snapped the ball to Tails and immediately ran out further into the field. Knuckles was the lone defender. Should be a piece of cake. The blue blur bought some time just running around aimlessly, even deciding to taunt his opponent. As Tails threw with all of his might, Sonic lost track of his surroundings and was immediately clotheslined by Knuckles. There he laid on the grass with the wind knocked out of him.

“Touchdown!” The echidna celebrated. He was definitely confused, but at least he had the spirit. Sonic looked at Tails without getting up. The fox didn’t even throw the ball five yards.
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>>572313434
Drop the pencil, little bro, this is not your thing
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>>572314253
If it's what I with it s, it's merch from years ago and it also had a Sonails version
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>>572314306
That's because casuals didnt play Sonic 1. They played Sonic 2 and think Green Hill is Emerald Hill.
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>>572314353
Take the hint no one is gonna fall for your self-responding baits. Shut the fuck up shippertard.
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>>572313434
>futa Amy
Never draw again Roads
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This place is really in the shitter huh?
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>>572313434
>Roads hasn't ended his miserable life yet
Unfortunate...
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Looks like Sonamybesties are getting upset
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>>572313434
Peak as always
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If you're ugly, kill yourself. Uglies don't have the right to call themselves human.
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Espio
the Chameleon
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>>572313434
Where are the good artists?
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>>572314617
Blame Tailsfags.
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>>572313434
not a single good drawing in there, amazing
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>>572314870
Grrrr get this Discord inside joke OC off my thread!
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>>572314246
Oh sure yeah, of course you're not doing shit right now, because you're instead samefagging hard and replying incessant to drawpile results post.

You think you're so fucking slick.
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>>572314913
in my bed
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>>572315067
Quote all the posts you think are me
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>>572314453
I’ll admit you were right, you are shit at writing.
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>>572315015
Tails! :D
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If you have an idea, then do something about it. Makes something. Write something. Draw. But if you're just gonna keep tpyournideas as just ideas, then eat shit because you're never gonna go anywhere with that mindset. Make shit. Don't be a pussy.
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uh oh drawfag melty
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>>572315247
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>>572315270
A'ight, what kinda porn you want?
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>>572315270
Thanks Paps
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>>572315270
Based. Or as the kids say, truth nuke.
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>>572315247
...is gay.
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I just want it to be known that I applaud whichever anon made the post several threads back about Mina feminizing Ash into a maid for her and Tails.
>pic not rel
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>>572315270
Nothing starts until you take action!
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>>572314453
Did you have fun writing? If you did, you should keep doing it. Even if other people like it or don't like it, what matters is what you think about it. Keep doing it, keep improving, and keep making things you like. In the end, what matters is what you want to do, not what others want you to do.

keep on writing, anon.
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>>572315405
Paps is yuropoor Richmunk and is a pedo groomer tranny enabler.
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>>572315270
My ideas are autistic and retarded and don't deserve to be propagated or encouraged and fuck you for trying to encourage mental illness.
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>>572312258
If mistyfags had this much power, she wouldn’t have been benched. This was because all shippers were annoying as fuck about serena, even serenafags sent hate to writers over getting faked out of a dance between her and ash.
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>>572309121
I didn't even know there was such a thing as a "solitary bee". They're gorgeous.
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>>572315632
Autistic ideas are the best and I want to see them. Please make them a reality
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyBsTIu9qMw
I've been trying for literal years but I can't capture this type of tone and feeling in a Sonic fanfiction.
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>>572315270
What makes you think I want the world to know about my thoughts? I'll keep my secrets to myself and you'll have to seethe about it.
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>>572315157
Are you retarded?
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>>572315463
>>572315801
Don’t listen to them writefag, they couldn’t even bring themselves to say it was good.
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>>572315430
Thanks anon. Mina feminizing Ash into their maid is funny and hot. Bro got cucked so hard he's washing their dirty laundry and sheets.
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>>572315808
Skill issue
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I KNOW YOU'RE IN HERE, I'M HERE TO LAUGH AT YOU FOR NOT HAVING A GF
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>>572316106
What show?
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Why is the amybestie triggered
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>>572314453
Cute
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>>572316293
Because Sonic Movie 4 has a real possibility of killing SEGA Sonamy too
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>>572316215
You are still never getting Sonic
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>>572316215
I have an anti Sonamy chip on my shoulder, so don't think you're alone. It's like something where you don't know where you stand on something until you meet resistance.
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>>572315678
Misty wasn't "benched". She was never a love interest. The anime was moving on to the next generation so they introduced the girl character from those generation games for marketing, and they did that for every generation thereafter.
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>>572315801
You don't want to see shit, you're at best humble bragging to stroke your own ego or trying to find some gullible idiot to make a fool out of themselves for your entertainment. That's how everyone is nowadays.
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>>572316608
It's sad that you think that way. I like seeing weird things that people come up with. I may not like everything, but I do at least like creativity, uniqueness, and the bravery to share something even if people probably will not understand it or accept it
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Duo here. Here’s a commission I paid for with my hard-earned money (still in progress). Sonurge is good for the soul!
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>>572316572
You hate something that is constantly teased and referenced in the canon
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>>572316759
Then why are you here and not in DA or Twitter?
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I don't mind when this general talks about other franchises, but for the love of fucking god does it seriously have to be about shipping bullshit
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>>572316964
off topic post fuck off >>>/vp/
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>>572317013
I do also explore those sites. I also like this community as well, and I like what people here make
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... why does Krack show up just as soon we're bout to see another spergout? Nooticing?
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>>572316593
I don’t think she’s a love interest either, but it’s true she and eventually Brock were benched from the main character slot. I remember the real reasoning for May replacing Misty was because a writer wanted new eye candy lol.
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>>572290380
I still have no idea how she did and I won't question it now that but yes that is accurate. Every character is based mainly on their first incarnation. For the game characters I'm biased towards whatever Maekawa does.
I know someone wanted the rest of those notes. I will post them but there is something I have to finish reading first.
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Am i getting this right?
I can only pick the entire album for the third lap song instead of individual songs and then one of them has a chance of playing randomly and marking them as favorites actually does nothing aside from marking them as my favorites? It won't make them play more often or something?
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Why is this sperg even in here? We didn't even do anything. Why do mentally unhinged people come on here and dump their bullshit on the thread? 2 mental breakdowns from 2 people in the same day. Jesus christ.
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>>572317141
Ligma d, if the threads stops bringing up pokeshit and I’ll stop too
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>>572317141
Kill yourself Sonallyfag
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>>572316386
Quit babying him
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>>572317363
Get raped
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>>572317302
What are the 2 breakdowns? I'm having trouble keeping track
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>>572317047
At least there’s one thing all fandoms can agree on, shippers are annoying
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>>572317198
She's the sperg pretending to be offended sonamyfag.
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The fact this place only has 5 people on here max daily and we're all familiar with eachother makes it incredibly obvious when someone is astroturfing.
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>>572290380
>>572317250
I think it's funny we are just nonchalantly accepting Krack is indeed a psycho stalking femoid, to the point she's making herself a threat to Chroniclesfag because he's a everythingfag.
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>>572317654
wait what
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>>572317465
Krack in the thread before the last one had a meltdown over there team and made up a fake discord conversation pic to try and some schizo theory that the IDW staff was literally changing the canon to fuck with her specifically. Nothing I said in this post is exaggeration and you can check it yourself. The thread before last thread.
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>>572317654
Quit starting shit.
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>>572317764
Make sure to archive her meltdown well.
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>>572317803
Respect people boundaries and don't take drama outside like the godawful roastie you are, Krack.
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No one believe this anon>>572317654
>>572317764 He's just trying to damage control. Don't buy the bullshit.
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Making stuff up must be fun. Anyone have cute Shadow images to share
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i like krack
i like roads
i like scarcos
i like colono
i like sparky
i like hotshelter
i like
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>>572318000
>immediately spams Shadria after being called out
It's true then
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>>572317905
>Krack
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>>572317294
Can anyone please help me out here?
I'm just gonna spam my question in the next threads until i get the answer.
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>>572318000
Did Chroniclesfag gave you permission to tell us all he did the writings?

No? Then why did you broke his trust like that? Why are you stalking him?
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>>572315858
I rest my case
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I swear to God if I see one more "Krack is lord evil demon psychopath" post out of fucking nowhere I will actually go super Shadria mode
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>>572318049
Hey everyone

Notice how they didn’t say they like Woefag

Take notes
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>>572318178
>Did Chroniclesfag gave you permission to tell us all he did the writings?
qrd?
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how I wish you guys could talk about sonic and not vent your impotent offsite drama
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>>572317209
Brock actually got legit benched because people thought his eyes were racist, but then people asked for him back.
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>>572317958
>>572318267
Krack better rewards you some good nudes with all the effort you're putting on simping and defending her. :(
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>>572318383
These retards just love to bitch.
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>>572308001
I used to write fanfictions but never finished them
Working on writing original stuff now
Might not finish them either
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>>572318049
Sonic
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>>572318459
>>572318383
Fuck off Sonallyfags
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Dow

I wish they'd make new models
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>>572318185
It's not like a secret that she was confided in or something, she just happened to figure me out.
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>>572318424
gosh i want sonic fangirl nudes >.<
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You know what I hate? Smarmy talentless retards who think their opinion matters. Especially if they're ugly. Like what gives you the right to talk like that when your that trash. Know your place.
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Krack, send a feedback form to Sega of Japan and tell them that you hate how the English scripts change and censor the characters and make sure to tell them that you won’t buy any future Sonic games if this keeps on happening. This will put pressure on Sega to do something
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>>572318625
Exactly, but these retards just want to have their boogeyman.
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>>572318670
Thankfully, I don't care.
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>>572313434
Samefag
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>>572184916
This was Krack's fake screenshot btw. She never proved this was real. You can still read the replies. Lololol.
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>>572318185
Idk what this thing with Chroniclesfag is. I just thought everyone knew about it. If he wants me to do/not do something he can ask.
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>>572308001
Yeah
https://files.catbox.moe/5aefbo.mp4
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>>572318625
She still should know better and have some empathy to other people's secrecy and privacy. You don't just tell on public someone has a secret alt through identifying bits. If they have an alt or put out other stuff on other means, they are doing so for a reason.

The funny thing is she has a thousand alts on Twitter for stalking people. Hypocrite much.

>>572318794
He literally said it was Krack you retard.
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>>572318938
Do you want to talk about Shadow
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I fucking hate you people so much like holy shit I wish you all would just burn and die. Can you talk about ANYTHING on topic?
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>>572319113
>deflecting
This is true then >>572318938
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I like this edgier feel.
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>>572318938
>She still should know better and have some empathy to other people's secrecy and privacy
He literally doesn't give a shit. Fuck off.
>He literally said it was Krack you retard
And he said it wasn't an issue, faggot.
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here is a shadow the hedgehog advertisement where he is holding a gun. how do you feel about when he holds guns? I like it here but I think it's weird. I appreciate the "Shadow is the weapon" concept better.
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I want to talk about Shadow
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>>572319113
After you go speak to your boyfriend which he has been sending you dms for months.
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I used to write fanfics on here and post them but literally no one would even bother reading or commenting on them so that just killed my drive for writing.
I know I should be able to just write for myself but if I'm just writing for myself then why should I write at all? I'll just keep my thoughts to myself.
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>now she's spamming
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This is why no one should feel bad for retards. Just a bunch of rotten ugly fucks. No redeeming qualities whatsoever. Total trash.
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Are Slashy and Violet seething over Krack again?
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>>572319305
Post on FF, Ao3 and SpaceBattles.
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>>572319212
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>>572319613
Alright listen here you
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i want to breed all of you
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LMAO THE KRACK SIMPS ALL OF SUDDEN DESPERATELY CHANGING TOPIC
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>>572319598
I posted them on Ao3.
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>>572319581
And probably Duo too.
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>>572319305
Did anyone ask?
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>>572293821
Sally can work in the games if you just make her Tails' big sister and also his love interest too
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>>572319716
And you got nothing?
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>>572319721
I am too, why doesn't anyone know my name?
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>>572318876
Damn she had a 4 hour long schizo rant about something she made up completely lmao.
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>>572319212
I kind of agree. Shadow doesn't need guns, he is the weapon. But it's okay if he uses them. The thing about him being obsessed with guns is headcanon based on promotional material, it's more than he uses anything at his disposal, and there happened to be a lot of guns around.
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>>572319685
Me first
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>>572319773
>also his love interest too
Fuck off, Tailsfag
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>>572319136
>>572318769
>>572318459
>>572317302
Being honest, it feels good seeing you all suffer. You guys made /sthg/ (and Sonic) worse too.

Karma, bitch. :)
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>>572319838
She's insane.
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>>572319685
well you're not
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>>572319875
ok *unzips 4 incher*
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>>572319905
Just protecting Sonic's character! He's the Wind, and all that, you know what I mean?
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>>572319774
Last I checked it had like 23 views and no comments but that was over a year ago
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We could use some futa spam right about now
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We could use Shadow right about now
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>>572319813
And who are you? Introduce yourself.
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>>572319858
I feel like I could do an essay on how many utterly fanon character beats Shadow has, but I'm not the most qualified for that. Off the top of my head:
>Obsessed with guns
>Hating Tails
>Avoiding names
>potty mouth
>Gruff and violent
>Easily provoked
>somber and sleepy looking all the time
>Political activism?????
>hangs out at GUN HQ's sofa????
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>>572319716
>>572320012
Did they have anything sexual on it?
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>>572319685
Shut up, Fiona
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>>572319305
Know that feeling
It's the most amount of time put into the least people willing to interact with it.
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Would you rather have Sonic media but explode, or have no Sonic?
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>>572320162
One of them was just supposed to be some short story of a Honine ship and the other a Sonic and Amy team up in a haunted house. Nothing really sexual.
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How do you feel about the idea of Maria as a protagonist, even if it is only for a short period?
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Is it THAT FUCKING easy to bait in naive retarded jappurists or is this some mega samefaggotry operation?
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>>572320302
No wonder they didn't get hardly any views or comments.
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>>572320317
Samefaggotry. We don't have even half that amount of posters in these threads usually. That's also what makes it obvious it was her samefagging...four hours btw.
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>>572320439
why is amy so hot
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>>572320317
There's no way there's enough people in here for that many replies.
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>>572320317
A mix of both, she wanted Sonamyfags to get riled up and harass Katie and Sega.
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>>572320439
Objectively the worst character ever made.
>wouldn't that be Silver
Second worst.
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>>572320317
at least half of those are me
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>>572318503
Why didn't you finish them? Did you grow bored with them?

>>572318916
Interesting, is that something you did?
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Bro, why are you having a panic attack over that screenshot if it's fake?
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This bitch faked a scenario in her head and then proceeded to publicly bitch about her schizophrenia while pretending to be other people to validate herself. Glad to see she never really changed.
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>>572320608
>>572309651
Please stop talking, you're making this embarrassing.
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>>572320148
Yeah, that's about right.
>Based off the Hidden Palace mural
>Besties with Rouge and Omega
>"Found family" with Team Dark
>G.U.N. lapdog
>Constantly angry and yelling
>A literal family with Maria and Gerald
>Calls Amy "Rose" all the time
>Calls Sonic "faker" all the time
>Political activist or invested in social trends
>Experienced flirt and sex god
>Slower or taller than Sonic
>Says he is the Ultimate Lifeform just to boast
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>>572320567
Stop boomerposting about your wife and kid, Shadow
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>>572320567
Okay.
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>>572319187
Krack will never give a shit about you. Give up.
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>>572320731
But everyone in here does that, though. Because all of you are bored.
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>>572320754
I never liked the mural one. I guess GUN lapdog came from either 06 or Archie. For Shadow in particular the archieisms bug me more than Sonic. I've never seen the "Rose" thing but that definitely sounds like the fandom version of Shadow talking. The Gerald and Maria thing is utter insanity. There's incarnations of Megaman where he's in roughly the same situation like Legends and Roll (who is his actual sister in most incarnations) is in love with him there.
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>>572320608
I wrote by the seat of my pants and just started things without planning them, hoping I'd reach the ending at the same time as people reading it.
Might work for some people, didn't work for me when I started getting annoyed that the story I wanted to do required re-writes of story I already posted. And some yeah I just lost interest in. I could write quickly enough but even that was too much time for me to get bored of the concept I was writing.
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I'll never understand why Krack causes so much seethe on all angles. Is it because she's a female and a chud at the same time?
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>>572320960
Speak for yourself nigger, if I feel like I have to samefag to keep a conversation going, I just drop it. Ya know, like a sane person would?
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>>572320858
Glad you're pretty indifferent, so we can vault her for good. :)
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I'll never understand why Krack attracts so many simps on all angles. Is it because she's a female and a chud at the same time?
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>>572321086
I dont like her for any other reason than because she's extremely autistic and prone to emotional meltdowns and usually uses this place as an emotional tampon.
The constant lying and falseflagging to make herself look like a victim is also obnoxious.
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>>572321091
Lol no you fucking don't. I see samefagging multiple times on here from different parties. Although it's easy to tell since you retards keep repeating the dame tired topics over and over and make it go on for hours. If you were sane you wouldn't be posting here period. Get off your invisible high horse, retard.
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>>572321086
Twitterfags get insanely jealous of each other over attention. I don’t know why we allowed for them to shit up threads for this long.
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I'll choose my words more carefully next time. Sorry.
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>>572321093
Nah.
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Of course there’s a faggot who reports people over sonic
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>>572321246
Nobody's having an emotional meltdown but you right now brother. Got cool Sonic images to post?
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>>572321246
Brother or sister, she isn't the only faggot who's obnoxious and had meltdowns in this general and tries to use it as a hugbox.
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>>572321086
Better question, why do you love validating namefaggots obsessed on attention and avatarfaggotry so much?
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>>572321223
vagina, that's literally it
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>>572321417
What did you post?
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>>572321417
Based. Stop shitting /v/ with your /sthg/ tier circlejerking threads you parasite.
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>>572320537
The screenshot might not be fake
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>>572321296
Because without them the site will lose all its topics and half of its userbase. Catalogs on practically all boards are xitter screencaps.
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>>572320738
Why don't you write something yourself, anon? Give it a try. It's better than constantly hating people who try to do something in this general.

>>572321062
Yeah, some people are "natural" and can write without planning, or can plan from the top of their head and just follow. Not everyone is able to do something like that, especially for bigger stories. Or sometimes you just lose interest. There are plenty of projects that I gave up in the past, too. But I still try to go as far as I can when I write.
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>>572321543
Found the faggot
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>>572321568
You can tell if something is real or fake based on how many people want to shut it down. Personally, it could be fake, but it might hit close to home regardless.
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>>572321426
>Nobody's having an emotional meltdown
You have meltdowns DAILY on your Twitter you disingenuous vapid bitch. You bring drama off site DAILY and we can tell it's YOU from your screenshots format and wording.

You just LITERALLY lie through teeth.
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>>572321278
Yes I do nigger. If I was anything like you were describing there would be nonstop "discussion" about how much Tails and Knuckles needs their own game series. But you don't see that topic often do you? Faggot. Don't you dare assume I'm as miserable of a shitstain as you are. Just because your a shitposting subhuman doesn't mean everyone else is.
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>>572321086
it's shipping. I'm pretty confident that's the reason now. There's people with a problem with Shadria and see her as the avatar of it. They'll give you an entire character bio on her. They'll tell you every detail of her life because she happens to see Shadow doing things his creator clearly approves of. It's hard to shake. You can consciously avoid responding to them and they will make it their mission to poison you against her. She might night be the nicest little carebear but who needs to be? It's really tiresome.
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>>572321581
That doesn’t mean we should tolerate attention whoring from namefags. One of them had the nerve to post how much more attention they got in twatter than the other one.
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I hope all of you really bite off and murder each other to exhaustion here until /sthg/ finally dies for good.

No, seriously, I really do. You guys are doing a favor to the world like that.
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>>572321806
You're having meltie because no one believes you're this innocent and constructive poster. Quit it with your larp, dude.
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Ngl krack is starting to annoy me and I don't even use twitter.
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>>572321749
A lot of people wanted it shut down
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>>572321795
I don't, but nothing's gonna convince you otherwise I suppose.
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>>572321891
I’m glad I don’t come back here that often to have this place occupy my mind like this. It sounds painful.
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When I see the shape of Sonic's head I get happy thoughts
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>>572322054
You're the reason Sonic is so shit nowadays
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>>572322054
it makes me think of goku
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Since when the fuck was it acceptable on 4chan to get caught samefagging on a huge scale for multiple hours just to get attention namefag or no?

Are you fucking serious right now?
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Shipping really makes women insane
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>>572320608
>Interesting, is that something you did?
Yeah.
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Anyone who tries to act like they're above this place and is not a shitposter but suddenly starts blowing a gasket and gets emotional when called out for bullshitting IS a bullshitter.
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>>572322130
I love Sonic nowadays. The ending of Final Horizon made me go crazy.
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This is exactly what classicfags mean when they say only Genesis games and Mania are good, everything else is shit.

Shipping? Lorefaggotry? Drama? ALL linked to modern. Hessefag was fucking right on money.
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>>572322153
This general literally samefags all the time. If it didn't threads would be up for 3 to 4 days.
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>>572322318
All of that shit started with classic.
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>>572322153
The crazy thing is that there's still worse generals compared to this one
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>>572322318
>shipping
satam
>lorefags
satam
>drama
>satam
all classic! ! !
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>>572321345
You should maybe reconsider when you're gonna defend avatarfaggot namefag, or just kill yourself.
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Slashy, Duo, Randomfox, Krack, and Violet samefag /sthg/ up the ass but will get mad at each other for the same thing.
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>>572322530
>irrelevant spin-off uncanon shit watched by 0,00000000000000000000001% and never affected game canon
>ignores OVA
>ignores all the downfall and dirty reputation came from dark age and forward
Moderntard...
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>>572322557
Aren't you the edgelord pajeet who avatarfags as a black cat from IDW and obsessed with shipping Sonally and Sonurge and AI gens two gay characters from IDW getting brutally murdered?
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Have we ever had any sane regulars here?
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>>572322886
No, because they'll get immediately jumped on by the posters here. You need a certain mentality for this place.
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>>572316848
I didn't realize you actually liked this pairing as a ship. I thought this was a bit.
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>>572322886
Years ago but all the crazies chased them away.
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why is shadow fanart being posted back to back?
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>>572322530
funny how no one can really ever think up a bad thing from classic era, the closest they can do is bring up satam and archie which were miniscule and never represented majority sonic

meanwhile modern is ABUNDANT on stinkers. heroes, shadow, 06, iizuka, shipping, all the shit that was seen and made visible to majority
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>>572323134
Tailsfags and Kitfags do that every day. Why is it bad now?
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>>572323134
Shadow is a really cool guy
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>>572323134
I like Shadow and nothing of value is being discussed right now
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>>572323182
They are bad too. I have the tailspedos and kitpedos filtered on MD5.
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>>572315270
Someone that isn't even from /sthg/ just did. Why did we all call him a faggot?
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>>572323105
I like Sonurge and Sonally unironically.
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>>572322570
I love SSS
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>>572317250
Did you fucking add rich bitch Milan as a playable character? Based.
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>>572322570
>>572323505
Silvernigger forcing that meme again, yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikeessssss.
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>>572323426
Because they're not from here.
Also they do this every single week.
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>>572323505
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>>572323505
I know Nakamura, but no one does, seriously...
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>>572322569
I am none of those people and I wish they would all just fuck off. I'd rather this place just be dead at this point.
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>>572323585
She is an NPC.
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>>572318625
What you just witnessed is schizos invoking your name to force you to clarify something so they have ammo on Quark. Be careful about that
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>>572315270
So all of you retards can call it boring and give useless "ehh" comments about it? No thanks.

Go stick to playing Fortnite and watching TikTok. It's all you gen-alphas are useful for. You weren't even born in the 90s and it isn't make a comeback.

Western cartoons are different, anime is different, everyone is living in idiocracy. The only time you pretend to care is when your favourite Youtuber is reviewing it and even then you don't remember anything from said reviewer. The Sonic fags could never make a 6 hour review of Dark Souls.
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ok krack
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Yeah you know what, im done, im not gonna discuss anymore, im gonna just samefag and spam schizo pics because thats the only way i can get any replies and the only way to make namefags and schizos fuck off

you people did this to me

i hope you're all happy
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>>572323664
You're cringe.
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>>572323953
>so they have ammo on Quark.
She's doing this for herself. She only has herself to blame.
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>>572323996
Just post pics you like.
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This is the final /sthg/ thread
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No fuck this and fuck that anon trying to normalize this shit. Samefagging should always be looked down upon especially when it's obvious and lasts for hours. It doesn't matter who does it and yes I recognize others do it but that doesn't mean everyone does. Accepting this behavior is retarded. Literally just have better standards and call these people out so they're shamed out of doing it or out of here.

Ffs have a god damn backbone.
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>>572324110
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND KILL YOURSELF YOU BITCH YOU OF ALL PEOPLE RUINED THE GENERAL

KILL

YOURSLEF

YOU FUCKING CRETIN BITCH

go fuck yourself you retarded bitch, i stopped following you a long ago.
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Here we go, another 18 hours of duo spamming.
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>>572324219
Ok
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>>572324191
No, FUCK OFF, IM DONE, GO BARK SOMEONE ELSE
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Nakamuradow
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>>572323965
Meds
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>>572324191
Cringeworthy post.
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If you make me make the next thread you won't like it and it'll be fucked up.
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>>572323953
I don't know how to react to that to be completely honest.
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>>572324092
Fuck off already Duotard.
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You guys are retarded.
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>>572324440
No do it, make everyone here suffer.

They deserve it.
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>>572324440
Don't do it
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>>572322318
Nice pasta
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>>572324191
You have to be absolutely demented for making all these savior complex statements on a general that has long lost all the culture and composure
You and everyone here is a walking corpse atp
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>>572324058
Your slop is cringe
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Can we make till 1000?
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sonic uses ifunny
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>>572324563
Nice gam- oh wait. :(
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>>572324781
>>572324781
>>572324781
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Shadria is canon. Shadria will always be canon. People love Shadria because it's beautiful and cute. Sega should make a game that drops hints about how much Shadow and Maria loved each other that are too big to ignore. Maybe they should have Shadow and Maria kiss, or at least indicate that it happened. They should hold hands and dance more too.
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>>572324806
>>572324806
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>>572324805
>>572324841
Lol
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>>572324894
Well, it was like, almost at the same time.
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Heroes Amy is best Amy because she has the most hype moments and aura.
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>>572324683
No you're cringe if you think that was me and you're cringe if you're such a useless fuck that you'd rather die than either pick up the pen or pick up the robot and just fucking make something we can actually look at.

>>572324805
>>572324841
/Facepalm
Oh you guys suck so badly no wonder this general lost so much speed.
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>>572291183
silvaze isn't the best communicated thing to the western audience but idk why her dynamic with amy is overplayed more than it's existence. like they actualy have even less than ''standing next to each other'' it reads more like desperation to want yuribait that isn't dogshit more than anything. (i know this wasn't necessarily your intent, but just came to my mind.)
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>>572291183
>>572327335
don't get me wrong i actually think her and amy could have a more fun dynamic than either of the male hedgehogs but in the actual narrative the only place it arguably exists is the fist rush game in which cream kinda mogged amy in having interactions and impact on blaze.

other than that i get why people think silver/blaze has romance undertones and sonic team kinda ships it but it's in the obscure esoteric subtext stuff than what is in the actual text



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