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Weight of Responsibility Edition

Previous promises: >>572345476

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

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>https://rentry.org/utg-font

-/utg/ Canvases
>Current: https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25875811-6377-7463
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>Current: https://magma.com/d/3B5chWd0Vh
>Previous: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh

-Pippins Wiki
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COMING
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maddie sex
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That Dess art was way too hot...
Is that allowed?
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doe smell
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so the seeds are supposed to be an allusion to "friendliness pellets" right
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Leave your off topic shit in the previous thread, don't bring it here. Yes you, I'm talking to you
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first for based chuds who hate trans people and gay people but love the story of Deltarune created by Toby Fox.
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Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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What if Noelle molested Kris because she wanted to know their sex?
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>>572357584
i'm pretty sure it's a callback to the golden flowers being poisonous, hence the warning labels
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>>572357584
no they mean semen
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>>572357584
More likely to Chara's buttercup poisoning, since they're toxic.
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Chapter 6's boss fight is gonna be Rudy's stage 4 prostate cancer turned into a darkner
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>>572357593
>trannies
>off topic for deltarune
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>>572357220
rent free
cishets are the silent majority in this fandom, bub
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>>572357718
>beating up rudy's prostate
good heavens
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>>572357686
Kris shits to death in chapter 6
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Why is Kris fine with the Roaring Knight kidnapping their adoptive father, adoptive mother, and a police officer?
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idk if it was the autism or latent homophobia but I didn't spot anything gay between blue and yellow in my playthrough. I thought blue cared for yellow in the same way one would for a retarded family member, which yellow sort of is.
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>>572357663
WOAAAAH
STORY OF UNDERTALE
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>>572357593
which part? the neo-pronouns or the canon child rape that toby fox wrote. they are both ON topic, buddy.
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Whats wrong with the people that dislike Flowery until the boss fight or even until his stand with the Knight?
Are they unable to read and process literally anything he talks about before that point
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>>572357776
>Asgore joins the party
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>>572357783
"Trust the plan" Kris probably
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I want to have sex with her so badly
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so what are the final 2(?) dark worlds going to be
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Oh... hi Kris. No no I was just in the middle of .... *munch munch munch* Did you want a taste? It's from the deli.
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>>572357595
I don't hate gay people
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Did you just cut me off?
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>>572357889
6 - likely candidates are holiday manor or the hospital
7 - the shelter
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>>572357889
I think for sure a later chapter will go nuts and have more than one dark world, though Bunker is definitely the final dungeon so to speak
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>>572357863
My one complaint about Flowery is that I'd like him to be more of a jerk, so that Ralsei can learn to shrug off his inhibitions by himself instead of getting served this sappy speech in the middle of the chapter. Other than that, he's pretty cool.
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>>572357783
toby will explain it next year in the gardening arg [snd_sorry_waiting_jp]
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>>572357964
Lmao
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Hello everyone it's me, Toby Fox, I understand that a lot of you are confused about some parts of the story so let me break it down for you:

The Roaring Knight is just an entity made of pure darkness that was born when the shelter dark world was created, it has no secret identity because it is exactly as it presents itself to be
The Knight is opening fountains to try to bring the Roaring because it is mindlessly evil by its nature, Kris is also simply evil and trying to help the Knight bring the Roaring but needs a soul to stay alive, which of course is a problem because you control the soul and are actively working against them on the side of good
The shelter dark world is like Castle Town but for the bad guys, December Holiday has been kept prisoner there ever since the incident where she went missing as a damsel in distress for you to save in Chapter 7, and the other kidnapping victims of the Knight are being held there so they can be killed later because the Knight is evil
Gaster is another one of my self-inserts and I only wrote him into the story because "oh yeah, this game you're playing? the developer of it is orchestrating all the events" is quite understandably not as cool and mysterious
The eggs and the Man were going to lead up to a bit referencing the dog ending from Silent Hill 2, they don't have any real meaning and were a red herring meant to confuse theorists because I don't like them and think they take my games too seriously
The weird route was gonna culminate in an ending that completely recontextualizes the normal ending in the same way as Prey, but I won't reveal anything more about that since I'm sure you wouldn't want that spoiled too soon unless you've played Omori, then you probably already know

Thank you for reading, I hope this answers some of your most pivotal questions
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>>572357887
Anon... isn't she... y'know...?
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Does anyone here follow the Kris Noelle amalgam knight bullshit theory? From what I’ve seen of it it just looks like a bunch of random light parallels easily explained in other ways
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>>572358040
Out of ten
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>>572357613
Lmao I think this counts
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>>572357863
Flowery is one of the few well written things about the chapter, but that doesn't mean you have to like him.
You can always acknowledge some things don't vibe with you
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>>572358040
yeah shes blue
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kris and noelle found something they shouldn't have found until chapter 7 which is why weird route continues then
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>>572357863
>why is the intended reaction from the player the actual reaction from the player? were you not playing the game?
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so why are flowers supposedly so strong? i dont get it, flowers are actually quite weak irl
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>>572358031
Mucho texto toby I'm not reading all that shit. At least add a little gameplay in between.
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>>572358031
what do mew mew's armpits smell like?
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>"For some reason, I found this weird piece-a glass in my desk."
>"Felt like someone really wanted me to use this thing."
>"But it didn't interest me, so you can take it."
Now that pink once again confirmed that shadow crystals just spawn in the dark world based on the strong emotions around broken dreams can we all agree that the knight or gaster didn't plant Gerson's shadow crystal but that he's referring to Alvin giving up on writing and believing he can't live up to his father?
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>>572358040
Why yes
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>>572357951
https://youtu.be/QdyMik9Ffz4
I'm glad Toby really went all in on the Higurashi / Umineko for ch5 with both Aqua and this sideplot
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>>572358161
you didn't play the game
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>>572358031
the only realistic part of this is the egg man part.
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>>572357934
Delicious cat
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>>572357964
no matter how fucked up i realize toby's shit game is, this interpretation will always bring me back
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Hey guys actual toby here, chariots chariots.
Noelle and Susie fuck in Chapter 7.
this is a canon event even in the weird route.
There is nothing you can do.
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>>572358161
I think it has to do with them being organic and closer to humans than the rest of the characters in the game.
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>>572358128
there was some text about there being something terrible UNDER the town, and I hope it's quite literal. Going down the bunker will see it, as will going under the lake?

on a somewhat related note I hope it's a kino military bunker and not just a lame building underground.
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>>572357887
>look up deltarune on gelbooru
>blasted with small blue pussy

idk what i expected
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>>572353701
So if Toby is making some huge thing about how you need to be devoted to the heckin pure yuri romance and anything else is WRONG (see the ARG) is Toby making Kris male-coded? Because it feels like the whole point is to send a message to the chuds who want the princess.
But Kris is nonbinary. What if Kris is XX?
What if Kris is a nonbinary lesbian who was yuricucked?
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>>572358178
Mothballs and poor quality plastic
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I love fish
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>>572358178
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>>572358093
>>572358097
>>572358226
>>572358241
>>572358143
Am I allowed to say she's the sexiest character Toby has ever made?
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did anyone else actually have to take a break and go for a walk each time they got cucked
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>>572358031
>>572358291
ok but what about ralsei?
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>jaro…ACK
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>>572358431
Yes. We're on 4chan, not Twitter.
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>Carolknight
>Rudyknight
>Kriselle Amalgamknight

Dessbros... I think our fav is just a dumb slut who gets murdered by Kris for not considering their feelings........
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EVILKNIGHT666: Kris, please stop posting cat pictures into the groupchat.
>picture of cat wearing a funny hat
EVILKNIGHT666: This one is cute but please stop.
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>>572358412
>>572358426
i'll combine these answers. thank you toby.
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>chapter 5/7
>still no neutral front facing catti sprite
>still haven't seen if there's a picture on the front catti's black t-shirt
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>>572358501
Could've fooled me.
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>that one fucking cafe scene were Ralsei flashes his grippers at Orange
Tobuscus "Eradiated" Vulpes, are you ok???
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>>572358431
I can neither confirm nor deny that saying such a thing would bring closer the day of your demise
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>>572358474
(s)he died of dark aids after too much neovaginal sex with Mew Mew, sorry
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When someone brings up how similar Umineko and Deltarune are and you just know you're talking to a transexual with a crippling twitter addiction
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I don't hate chuds but I hate UTDR chuds specifically
because how do you play a game REAL chuds hate and go
>n-no I'm not like those OTHER Delta western fans, toby is le based japanese man who secretly agrees with my views
either fully chud out or eat your entire plate of vegetables, you don't get to be wishy-washy about your principles
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>>572358564
sex with catti
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>KRIS ENDING TOGETER WITH MEW MEW...?!
>NO I DON'T WANT THAT!
>I WANT TO COCKBLOCK HIM FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE!
>EVEN AFTER OUR ADVENTURE ENDS...I WANT TO COCKBLOCk HIM FOR A WHILE, TEN YEARS AT LEAST!!
Why is she like this?
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>>572358431
>Am I allowed to say something factually correct?
uh, sure?
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>>572358576
/utg/ is darkwoke
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I laugh a bit when I see flower age headcanons
They are all the same age
The aqua flower might be older than Kris
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>>572358097
da ba dee da ba di
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>>572358614
>I love you, you love m-NO NOT THAT WAY.
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>>572358564
she's so wide from behind. you can really imagine hugging her and sinking into her there.
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>>572358431
That’s just a factual statement so you are yes
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>>572358479
>nothing is stronger than... a... flower's... ACK
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>>572357863
he's not an insane blorbo and like a human. he's silly but serious about fighting for his life just to spend a little more time with his king, to pay back all of his love.
but really its because mr homo ralsei hates him immediately and since everyone is homo for ralsei they hate him too
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>>572358564
oh, that picture? it's the final prophecy panel
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ORFAVEUTANG PUSSY
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>>572358608
I know Toby is woke and is making a woke game, I'm just complaining his woke writing happens to be actually kind of bad. More woke people should be criticizing it instead of slopping up this crap just to own the chuds.
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when will /lgbt/ and /v/ go away?
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>>572358059
Nah, I actually see it
the secret ch3 boards are the biggest cinchers
the second one ending with the lake (follow the white cloak, she was used up - you were used up) and then the third board having you on the hometown map and having to defeat Undyne and Asgore in order to complete it, then you killing Tenna who talks to you about a deal (which Tenna says was with the Knight)
The drowning symptoms in the flavour text for the Knight fight
The Kris posing

I think the biggest part of the theory is that the second half involves the idea that you will have to Reset back to chapter 0 at some point even in the normal route and play through the game new game+ style a couple times. Which lines up with Susie saying if she had the white pen of hope she'd make the story never end (Love finds its way to the girl though debatebly said girl is Noelle)
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AQUA I NEED TO ___ YOUR _____ _____
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>>572358785
>when will the gays and the gamers go away leave the gay videogame thread
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>>572358770
As one of ralsei's biggest fans i can say with confidence i loved flowery cause he makes ralsei so cute angy and jealous
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>>572358604
damn...
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Lining up Noelle, Carol and Dess and tasting/smelling all three.
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>>572357863
the average player has the iq of a peanut and is incapable of independent thought
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She's so pretty, anons...
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>>572358321
yeah flowery said it, and considering he had ralsei-tier meta knowledge (which he probably learned from asgore) he's probably 100% right

the titans and fountains always appear from the ground up, not the other way round

i think onionsan found out about it too, and the gaster follower chopped him up and turned him into festival food as a result. the bastard is always blocking you in the town from obtaining knowledge you need to figure out what's going on
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>>572358785
in like a month when there is no news and no new lore
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were Asgore and Toriel not actually married in Deltarune?
The way he talked about how the flowers were meant to be a wedding bouquet makes it seem like they were defacto for years even after having Asriel and adopting Kris, but then The Incident happened literally days before he was going to propose
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>>572358608
they don't just do this with undertale thougheverbeit

my favourite is when they plaster thing they like with pngs of le esoteric far right symbology, which allows them to like it without being a hypocrite

They're hypocrites about almost everything. Consuming media, using technology, healthcare, money, communities, families. It takes a real lack of awareness. It probably explains why most of them are teenagers who barely live in the world.

>oh oh he meltied about chudcels! we win!
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>>572358893
Give it a month or two, they'll get bored and we'll be back to the chapter 3 and 4 days of nothing ever happens.
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>>572357486
Hooman!
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>>572358564
The rating boards allow Toby one usage of the word "fuck" and it's going to be written on her shirt.
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People would hate Noelle's character if she was male.
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>YOU'RE JUST SO INTERESTING NOW, KRIS.
>*scratches nonbinary groin*
>*farts*
>*ignores funny Ralsei reaction image*
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>>572358608
holy shit maria umineko
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>>572358785
>so tired of those gamers and faggots in the faggot video game thread
why are shipping niggers like this
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>>572358161
Dark Worlds are playing make-believe-for-real. The Seven Flowers have dreams, which makes them very, very good at make-believe, and Flowery in particular is radiant with determination, the most powerful force in a dark world.
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ULTIMATE DELTARUNE THEORY:
Mew Mew Kissy Cutie and the Cat Petters franchise are related and Cat Petters RPG is a Dragon Blazers ripoff which is an adapation of Lord of the Hammer which is an adaptation of the Prophecy and that's why Mew Mew is a schizoboss
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>>572359045
No, I would lust over her doe ass just as much as Ralsei. In fact, I will have to make that a reality now. Thank you.
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>>572358919
deranged noelle wasn't on my bingo
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>>572358431
Yes indeed
>>572358321
>something terrible UNDER the town
I have a scary feeling somehow the bunker will lead us to the literal Underground in Undertale but y'know uninhabited in the DT timeline, literally under the town
also I too hope it's a /k/ino military bunker, I want fucked up human-monster war themed darkners
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Just imagine how tight...
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>>572358779
None of the woke wrting was bad until this chapter, and it's not even set in stone that it's bad.
But it will be bad if the message ends up being that Suselle is love that breaks rhe prophecy, center of the story, and Kriselle is evil because it makes shipping bs the center of the story.
Again, Toby sees Kris as a guy no matter how hard they push nonbinary.
But if this is fine than the only woke thing thst's an issue is Blue's design
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Shit I didn't notice the new thread post.
>>572358235
Thoughts?
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https://files.catbox.moe/kq6amx.png

aqua is so funny!
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>>572359045
i would like her if she was male but i hate her
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UUUNNNHHHH BIG FAT TRANS CATGIRL GIRLFRIENDS
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hello please get on my 'susie is a darkner' train

- her light counterpart is the drawing of a dragon under dess's bed (which is muave in the book traced from)

- said book is 7 years overdue, we know this is the date of the first fountain, dark world, and the date dess disappears

- susie simply has no parents, been homeless/shitty shelters for the last 7 years, wandered back into town and got listed back into school by toriel, explains why she flips out with glee on being given her own room in the dark world

- her soul is merged with dess's (a lightner) the same way PINK and spamton NEO merged - this is how she can live in the light world, and why she bleeds, what I can't explain is how the strings came into play. this also implies that susie may have a shadow crystal, but I couldn't tell you what the 'lost dream' was

- she has aspects of dess that are impossible to ignore, she's punkish, plays the drums (which are in dess's cupboard) and her theme is a guitar (and is literally named s_neo in the files, basically susie_neo) Look how well she fits in to dess's room with colour matching. she even sits down besides the bed by the pillows, not ON the bed, as if she's done it a thousand times before. And maybe the reason noelle and susie like each other is because they feel the sisterly love, but don't understand it for what it is

- the room we see in the 'darker than darker' scene is asriels empty college room, he's a big fan of reptiles, dinosaus and dragons (yoshi reference)

- catti, when seeing susie, calls her 'the twin beasts' and 'an invader, a dark force'

-when susie asks 'which dragon blazers character am I?' gerson replies 'the dragon, of course'

- when buying ice cream from fucking SANS. Susie says 'hmm, got anything purple?' which is followed up by Noelle saying ' I'll have, umm... Oh, the Holiday twist!'

I am still looking for clues what I can't answer is if she's forgotten everything, or she knows what she is and is keeping it secret

CHOO CHOO
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>>572358823
The ch3 boards literally refer to it as the “forbidden path” you clearly aren’t meant to tread, and it’s clear Kris has a habit of proposing deals to light world objects before making dark worlds for leverage (or the knight). Kris presented the terms of the knight’s deal to Tenna for it before opening the fountain. Also timeloop/replay theories make no sense, the game is already going to be 40 hours or so and no sane developer is going to expect people to replay that with minor changes to get to the ending
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>Flowery acts like a college douchebag, but he is actually cool
Yep, Asriel will be subversion of Flowery and bullies Kris....
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PLEASE KRIS DON'T SEAL CASTLE TOWN, ILL SUCK YOUR DICK, WANT ME TO EAT YOUR SHIT ILL EAT YOUR SHIT
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Spamton warned you about Suselle, bro. He TOLD you, dog.
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The fountains and the darkness are just oil spills that makes everyone trip out and the roaring is america invading hometown for it.
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you've gotta tell them
onions green is onions
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I knew it.
I knew it was over the minute Aqua appeared on screen that the quality of these threads would never recover.
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>>572357783
But mindbreaking Noelle is a tad too far for him
I guess the answer is "doe pussy"
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>>572359216
i'll be disappointed if asriel is really just eddy's brother again
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>>572359192
I genuinely hope I don't sound like this when I'm making theories. Your source is Catti and the fact that she likes living in a castle instead of an apartment?
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I saw a screenshot of a post I made here on tw*tter.
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>>572359087
>ripoff
I like this theory but think it'd be funnier if it's an actual official spinoff, like how NCIS and JAG exist in the same continuity and have had enough crossovers that 2/3rds of mainstream TV in the 90's and 2000's could all be connected to St Elsewhere by Six Degrees or less
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>chuds out of nowhere
this is why no one likes you, hon
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>>572359126
out of all the things toby will never elaborate on, it was made clear from jump that noelle is a broken freak
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>>572359045
Male Noelle would be cute but also way too close to Ralsei
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>Sunset of seven colors
>Flower Man
>Dreamwatchers

The theme of Flowery/the Flowers is the best leitmotif so far.
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>>572357262
source?
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>>572359192
seems a bit of a stretch
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>>572359289
blame Toby Fox
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>>572359289
these threads were loli/shota central for like all of 2015-2018. you have no IDEA about charafags. the shotegotefags. there were even a few friskfags.

let alone monster kid and etc
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>>572359192
>exists in the light world
is probably enough to BTFO this

also toby fucking ROBBED us of a sexy dragon in the kris house darkworld
why does he hate us so much straightbros...
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>>572359381
BUCKBREAKING
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>>572359242
trvke. everyone in here apologize to the emails guy
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>>572359129
>also I too hope it's a /k/ino military bunker, I want fucked up human-monster war themed darkners
I still like the now incredibly improbable theory that Deltarune is at least partially set in some kind of Cold War setting, with the shelter being a missile silo, Roaring being nuclear exchange and picrel Titans unleashing it
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>>572358779
See at least that's consistent, I was specifically pointing fingers at the "why are le wokies from [irrelevant site] reading woke things into this woke game?" crowd. Like I dunno man, maybe you should've expected that the moment you booted up the Steven Universe-Cucumber Quest-Homestuck adjacent game
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>>572359332
it better have been a good post motherfucker
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>>572359529
i mean, the technology level in hometown almost fits...

fuck it first good idea for a deltarune fangame ever?
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>>572359209
>no sane developer is going to expect people to replay that with minor changes to get to the ending
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
just off the top of my head both Drakengard 2 and Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem had to be beaten three times with only minor changes on each playthrough to get their true endings
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>>572358907
What are the flavors
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>>572359398
>The theme of Flowery/the Flowers is the best leitmotif so far.
ah, we call that the sneakers o'toole motif
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>>572359481
why would it btfo it? I'm trying to say that susie as we know her is the neo form of a darkner and dess's lightner soul

hell, spamton neo and PINK can both probably exist in the light world too
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>>572359639
>sane developer
>drakengard
not that anon but this made me laugh. and then cry a little.
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>>572359332
you dont know about the fan Deltarune discord servers posting /utg/ screenshots and laughing at them?
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>>572358178
Well this just fucking droppped, have it you freak.
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i've just been playing each chapter sloppily, missed the chapter 3 shadow crystal, did weird route chapter 2.

I'm not looking forwards to replaying the game at least two more times... I'm tempted to do weird route in the wait for c6, especially now knowing it picks up in c7.
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>>572359151
https://litter.catbox.moe/qpxi7ya83y9llr5o.jpg
So cute and funny!
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>>572357613
https://files.catbox.moe/7bvupi.mp4

I'm sorry for this
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>>572359526
I always believed.
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>>572359398
nah don't forget it's better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kGmc1BOyPY&t=28s
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>>572359540
I always tried to be mildly apologetic of Suselle because I wanted to see more of it in the spotlight to make up my mind, and it turned out to be even worse in Chapter 5 than in previous chapters, I'm not fundamentally against it I'm against it sucking ass
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wokies will never reclaim deltarune, for them deltarune is too orientalist, the weird route was supposed to talk about rape, sa, rpg sexism and shit.
they also dislike undertale morality because they wouldn't spare kirk.
yes i believe all of this unironically
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>>572359045
Male Noelle would be equally kino
If you don't get it I feel sorry for you
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>>572359406
I second this, I really want source for this..
>>572359332
This happened to me once or twice when chapters 3+4 came out.
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sex with seth
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>>572358059
>Does anyone here follow the Kris Noelle amalgam knight bullshit theory?
I'm kinda into it but I've also always been into the idea that Dessknight would've also been a monster/human fusion with Kris's original soul in some way and already believe Kris has lived an unknowable amount of time in the time loop and "exhausted all the options" like Flowey did. For me it's like this
>Noelle can equip the black shard
>knight poses like Kris
>knight's hurt sound and roar are edits of the Noelle scream and snowgrave sfx respectively
>if each secret boss represents Kris's mental states as a save/loader then SNeo represents the original weird route
>Spamton is obsessed with getting a "battle ready body" and is the only darkner ever to seek out kris's soul or imply he knows he can use it to get more powerful
>Spamton hates Jevil who in turn represents Kris's earlier "it's all just like a game" "Flowey phase"
>Spamton is triggered to talk about the knight when "communion" is brought up
>communion in a religious context being the consumption of blessed bread transubstantiated into the body of Christ and keep a Christian spiritually whole and in grace
>SNeo does get more powerful but is still bound by the rules of his reality and the new body literally comes with stings attached
>5B ends with Kris and Noelle drowning in the lake and before the game fully cuts we see Noelle's silhouette become bathed in light from below
>Kris's soul literally emits light
>we know because of Chara's suicide that human souls likely naturally leave their body upon death
>knight is becoming more and more of an anomaly
>time travel already a narrative concept in UTDR
>it's not outside the realm of possibility that things get so fucked up an actual physical body gets sent back through time
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>>572359749
surely mew mew wouldn't be THAT annoyed that you keep asking her to raise her arms

bless you anon <3
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>>572359642
Candied dandelion, blue icee, grape slush
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Was the other side of the lake in the chapter 3 minigame?
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>>572359749
needs a light dusting of armpit hair
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>>572359791
kek, saved
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>genuinely cares about Asgore and just wants to show his gratitude for the care he got in the light world as a flower
>genuinely cares about his band of friends and most other darkner inhabitants
>surprisingly really powerful for a lightner
>hidden knowledge on par of Ralsei if not more
>knows that the fun gang came into his world purely to close it and his friends consciousness forever. still treats them with outmost respect till the end.
>knows fighting back is futile but does it anyways for the sake of his friends
>chill and fun guy. tries his best to make everyone around him happy.
>when asgore gets taken away by the knight he doesnt even hesitate for a second knowing he will died a quick death regardless.
>even though Ralsei hates his fucking guts. HE is the one to try and reach out for a mutual conversation.
how can anyone dislike him?
from his point of view, we are unironically worse than the knight yet he is still nice. he is just trying to keep his consciousness.
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>>572359858
i have a strong and uncontrollable need to impregnate the fujoshi
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>>572359802
I almost posted Running Sky along these, it's another one of my faves of the chapter, so yeah fair.

>>572359791
Flowery says that and sounds like that
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>>572359918
good taste
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>>572359150
100% think Susie telling Noelle about Dark Worlds will result in Noelle attempting to heal her dad (not knowing mortal real wounds can't be healed that way) either at the hospital or at the Holiday Mansion (taken home to die since nothing can be done to save him medically)
It would be incredibly interesting to see as we've seen a Susie made Dark World in ch4 so I'm guessing we get new sprites again (or maybe they're the same as the Susie dark world to suggest something special about Kris and the Knight's Dark Worlds - another point to Gogeta Knight theory that the dark worlds the Knight makes are identical to Kris')

I also think here's where aborting the ch5 weird route opens up an alternate route as Noelle would be messed up knowing Dark Worlds are 100% real, but also because if it opens in the hospital BERDLY WOULD BE THERE TOO (which actually makes me think it *will* be in the Holiday Mansion because 1.) cool lore we can find worked into the dark world and 2.) avoids bringing back Peakly )
I think *that* route would lead to the cool ass Noelle fight people have been clamoring for https://youtu.be/Mpt8FKGSg6o
and yes I think aborted weird route is another story route entirely
No it doesn't change the ending
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Feels like a lot of people forgot that Darkner personalities are also affected by the fountain-opener's will. So Flowery & Co wanting to keep Asgore in the dark world despite the fact that he still has to water them in the light world was a result of Kris plotting to keep Asgore stuck there so the Knight could capture him.
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>>572359316
I think it'll be a thing where he used to be Eddy's brother, grew some self awareness in college once he was finally out of that dysfunctional household, and is now stuck with conflicting feelings of both that he's a terrible brother and doesn't deserve Kris's forgiveness but also that he desperately wants to prove he's not that person any more and wouldn't be able to handle Kris actually saying to his face "I want nothing to do with you any more"
and Kris actually being like "you could be a jerk sometimes but it's nbd and I had it coming at least some of the time" would super get under his skin because that doesn't give him the punishment nor absolution he craves to find some kind of closure about it
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I hope we get to see a really toxic and bitter Noelle in the Chapter 6 kind-of-aborted Weird Route.
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If /v/ is going to shit the place up, you might as well make yourselves useful while you're here and tell me which fabric you like better for the insert of a Spamtenna itabag I'm working on.
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>>572359971
he was mean to ralsei once and was too cocky with the knight.
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>Berdlyfags
>Cattifags
>Jockingtonfags
>Dessfags

Can we laugh at them
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>>572359868
no because anyone can just type up a bunch of insane slop and tie it together the exact same way you did with
>GUISE WHAT IF LE TIME WIMBLY WOMBLY TRAVEL
it's the easiest writing copout in existence. then again, toby is a hack so why not. knight loops theory confirmed
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>>572359998
there's really nothing fujoshi about Seth. it's a more specific archetype than just being a nerd
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>>572359971
unironically I want to dislike him but can't. At worst he was a bit of a prick to Ralsei.

We are hypocrites for keeping castle town around.
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>>572359868
I was more into a general Kris Knight time loop theory, I'll accept either.

I assume the one singing Don't Forget is actually Noelle though after Chapter 5, it actually makes too much sense. Never should've kept assuming that after Chapter 4.
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>>572359209
>no sane developer
Yeah.
>>572359529
I swear to fucking god if the final boss of the Deltarune normal route is Utsuho Reiuji https://youtu.be/0Pz5AGTwFg0?t=1
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>>572360105

>Darkner personalities are also affected by the fountain-opener's will
i don't think that's true for flowerners
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>>572360156
Not from /v/ but the red and yellow is definitely a good choice, it fits Tenna's color scheme.
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>>572359703
yoko taro actually had very little to do with drakengard 2 which is why it's not referenced at all in D3 or the NieR games
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>>572360156
100% A in my opinion. it mixes up green tones (digital/spamton) with stars (TV)
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https://youtu.be/eEofUumvp_4
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My king!
No no no!
Jarona!
Here I come San Frandisco!
Mysterious wind...
Hey there, little guy!
I'm sorry I kept a lady in waiting~
Jarona!
ImsorryonceagainIkeptaladyinwaiting~
Sustingus!
Glue!
All according to plant!
Hey guys, I think I found a glue!
Jarona!
What a predictable creature!
Grown like a turnip!
I'm falling...
Hey Raly!
It's so human!
Leaf it to me!
Jarona!
They're eating my flesh!
Your dad's my best friend!
Jarona!
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>>572359998
can flowers get pregnant?
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This was a fun chapter, which makes me wonder how much depression the next two will bring. I am disappointed we didn’t get really any real answers, especially about Dess.
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>>572360105
The Flowers are living things with their own wills and dreams this is the whole point of the chapter
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>>572360041
>either at the hospital or at the Holiday Mansion
https://youtu.be/AZaAlFybcLY?t=19
Hospital.
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i turned off Ralseis in the config and felt so bad I went to change it but couldnt so I closed the game and loaded the save
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>>572360156
D, A is ugly as fuck don’t listen to the other anon
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>>572360329
suckle it up!
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>>572359939
Toriel hates Asgore too much, now breaking his toys
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>>572359939
I genuinely hope this somehow becomes a secret boss but don't know where the hell it'd fit in if the games meant to get serious
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This truly is just attack on titan all the way down to kris being eren and he not only knows everything but is responsible for everything to happen throughout history.
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>>572360337
They should’ve made her a goddamn bunny.
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>>572359971
Maybe it's just me, but the part with him reaching out felt too sappy. But maybe it's because Flowery's a sappy guy in general.
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>>572360156
you're making a bag. you aren't japanese. i like the green stars one. the 90s retro one is disgusting but it does go with spamton.
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>>572360337
we call it fruits
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>>572360130
I think Chapter 5 Failed Warp Noelle is going to be totally locked into her normal facade and a Noelle can only be a Noelle doomerism
Like she's going to be smiling and going through the motions of the plot but you can tell she's just done with everything and dead inside
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>>572360471
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>>572360449
it's like attack on titan if you make several massive assumptions about the direction of the story
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>>572360349
dess is irrelevant and will never appear in deltarune, c4 practically confirmed this and c5 seals it for me
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>>572360403
>ugly as fuck
okay, and your candy corn tenna fabric is better? this is a SPAMTON + tenna bag, anon.
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>>572360398
I think it goes back by itself anyway
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>>572360245
didn't Ralsei say back in chapter 1 that castle town is different because it's stable, while other dark fountains will inevitably start to expand and eventually swallow everything?
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>>572359209
>>572358823
>>572358059
This is the one reason I can believe it, the "communion" hint from Spamton and Malius saying BREAD is for a FORBIDDEN TECHNIQUE and NEW FUSIONS.

However I think its still possible that it was actually Original Kris and Dess that became the knight and the WR Noelle fusion is repeating the events but making the Angel
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>>572360245
This argument was the nail on the coffin to me instead.
>well huh WhY dOnT yOu CloSe YoUR FouNTin?
because it's THE fountain. the one made of pure darkness. where everyone can live without turning to stone you dickhead.
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>>572360383
Then I really fucking hope Megalovania plays during the Berdly fight just to fuck with people
(I mean multiple Smash references have been made with Berdly already https://youtu.be/FA5irMZy0oY )
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why does Kris have to be such a gosh darn cutie pie...
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>>572359289
He should’ve kept hiding his powerlevel
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>>572360398
it only lasts for 10 seconds you big fucking baby. you can tell ralsei that flowery sucks almost immediately
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I still endorse the "Ralsei is the genius loci of Hometown itself" theory
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>>572360532
The color scheme is atrocious!!!
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>>572357584
I think Rudy has been poisoning himself or being poisoned with the flower seeds and Kris taking them actually stops it and/or is evidence
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>>572360398
toby should've made it so that it detects if you do this and when you load back in, ralsei gives kris a smooch on the cheek
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>>572360638
why did you post this gif of grass
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>>572360398
i was hoping it would stay off for the rest of the game
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>>572360560
No, Ralsei has never given a justification for why it's okay to keep his dark fountain around.
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>>572360574
Still matches up with Homestuck (I think)
I read exactly half the story but I do know from the flash where Oppa Toby Style plays Jack Noir was fighting an identical White Jack Noir that definitely looked like the good guy
White Knight theory, Berdly was actually foreshadowing how you really save the world
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>>572360638
Needs walkies
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>>572360504
I imagine it like there's going to be a sharp contrast in her spoken dialogue (mostly normal) vs her inner thoughts (changed in the failed route), plus some different sprites like how her response to Susie in the lake was more sad than enthused. The biggest difference of course is that she will already have the ability and experience to cast Snowgrave...I'm really interested in how that could fuck things up for the gang.
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>>572360398
You have no souls and deserve everything that will happen to you
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>>572360638
Kris being silly is invariably adorable
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>>572360638
Qt
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>>572359150
Hospital or Castle town itself being Snowgraved by Noelle when she has a fight with Susie

The Ice Palace actually being Castle Town fits with toby saying the chapter is easier to make, it also allows for a Seam fight to be integrated into the chapter itself, and it also means the Delta rune Code would be behind the sealed door (probably originally from Gerson)
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>>572360616
>didn't understand any of flowery's arguments
retard
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>>572360560
ralsei lies about everything though castle town does seem to be a special case.

Can I get a QRD on dark worlds by someone more autistic about this than me? When one is created, are the things/characters inside it spawned out of nothing (as would make sense). In chapter 1 it seemed like the dark world was older than it should be, had history.
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>>572360041
>will result in Noelle attempting to heal her dad (not knowing mortal real wounds can't be healed that way)
I wouldn't be so sure... Is it not possible that whatever's wrong with Rudy is BECAUSE it happened in a dark world? Rudy is best friends with Asgore after all it's not outside the realm of possibility that he was there on "that day." if you got broken arm Berdly in chapter 5 he'll say that the only thing the doctors can find wrong with his arm is "a lowered temperature." Rudy displays symptoms consistent with hypothermia (respiratory failure/coughing, extreme exhaustion mostly) despite his family's apparent affinity for the cold and according to himself despite all the tests they never find anything wrong with him...
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>>572357686
Yeah Kris is either planning on poisoning themselves (one way to cuck us out of an attempted ch5 aborted weird route alt route) or poisoning someone
Very concerning, I need to torture this freak in ch6
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It's okay. I turned on extra Ralsei's in the options to make up for it.
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>>572360223
We already know about timelines from Undertale lmao. Also remember that Toby worked on Homestuck...
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Ralsei is probably the remains of a class Gerbil that Asriel used to take care of but Toriel put in the storage and fucking forgot about so it's remains are in there revived by a fountain taking form of the human it imprinted on the most.
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Kris was a cute kid
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>>572360232
there is not a single woman on the planet who wears glasses like that, breaks down when pressed on their identity, obsesses over a gay man (berdly), doesn't shower, sketches about ways of torturing men, and has unkempt, unwashed hair like that without being a fujoshi

t. did my phd dissertation on fujos
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>>572360838
>flowery revisionism
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>>572360882
their history is based on imagination but it didn't "really" happen. it's like your childhood toys coming to life and believing all of the storylines you made up for them were real.
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Is there exist an art piece of Flowery as the pointing soijak saying "Glue" or something and showing horse Ralsei from ch.3?
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>>572357863
>gif
https://youtu.be/E9zLkCvPlIM?t=29
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>>572360838
they all ring pretty hollow when the flowers would live whether or not there's a dark world, meanwhile all the other darkners are just fucked without the grand fountain
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toby please give us another spamton sweepstakes
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>>572360835
Literally the only thing I'm 100% convinced of is that we're going to get a dark world wherever Rudy is, and I'm near-100% convinced it'll be the hospital. Feel free to quote this post when Chapter 6 comes out to mock me for being a stupid retard.
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>>572360935
oh no
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>>572360403
If it matters, A is the closest pattern I could find that matched the pattern of the Green Room's background. Do you just think the color combo is ugly?
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i think i need to replay this, it's been 8 years since i touched chapter 1...

is there a good "guide" (list) of all missable things?
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>>572360786
The point she makes at the lake is that she can only do crazy, impossible things if Kris tells her to
Even if she has Snowgrave, I think she won't use it unless Kris tells her to or (You) tell Kris to which is still a distinct possibility but at least she won't be nuking you with it willy nilly
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>>572360882
there's nothing special about it. any dark fountain contributes to unleashing the roaring. there's no logic for the castle town fountain's continued existence that isn't cope
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>>572361074
they ring especially hollow when flowery outirght says that if their dark world goes on for long enough theyll die from lack of care

i say this as a big flowery fan
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>>572360769
That is another version of my theory, is that on the good route Kris and Ralsei are fusing NEO style and forming a white knight with the Sky Mantle and a sword
(Completing Ralsei's transition from "green lizard" with a scarf tongue to "fiery sword magician")
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replying here because i posted it like a retard 10 mins after the thread got used up
>>572358235
valid. noelle HAS to do something because she might just be retarded if she finds out about dark world healing magic and doesn't bring her dad, but i feel like she might realize too late instead of shortly after entering for the first time in castle town
also following the rebrand rule i think it'll have more ch2 vibes seeing as ch5 already had a lot of ch1 references, and seeing as it's noelle's dark world... i hope that we get more answers other than dess' fate because there are still plenty of things we need to see (papyrus, friend, mike, asriel...)
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>>572360882
darkners aren't spawned but transformed. and they are transformed with retroactive memories, as though they had been sentient and sapient the entire time they existed as just an inanimate object, and had been having "in-character" interactions with each other the entire time they were in the same room/building
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>>572361126
a hospital themed dark world will be so fucking cool. i was STOKED that this chapter would be halloween themed, but it wasn't...
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ch6 and ch7 better be on some silent hill shit
no more quirk toby chungus
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>>572360514
It being attack on titan fits with Kris being the nonbinary guy who needs to let thr pure lesbian romance happen.
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>>572360895
...
Are you saying Rudy has a friend inside him
WHY WON'T THIS THEORY DIE!!!
>>572361126
Hmm hmm
Well can't wait for there to be an Ice E's dark world in ch6 instead
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>>572360638
is it really kris being cute if the soul is making all the decisions?
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>>572361270
oh oh its kino
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>>572361163
The color combo is really bad, yeah
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Come to think of it, can the flower and insect darkners even survive in Castle Town, since the school closet is probably a dark room in the light world, and that would kill the plants pretty quick I think.
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I want to fuck that pink mizzle that's very obviously established to be the castle town bicycle in chapter 5
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>>572361074
see >>572361193
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>Spamton is a darkner that tries to harness a lightner's power influenced by the freedom thingie
>Ramb is a darkner that tried to share the freedom thingie with his favorite lightner
>Gerson is a darkner based on the remains of a lightner and he's uninterested in the freedom thingie
>the Mew Mew doll's darkner used the freedom of the crystal to influence the lighner that was trying to posses her

Am I understanding these correctly so far? Also why's Jevil the onyl one that doesn't have clear ties to a lightner except allegorical ones.
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>>572358178
Silicon and baby powder
>t. expert on the subject
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>>572361332
Mizzles are for anal
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>>572361294
it is if you believe disassociation theory, be it the hard version or the soft version
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>>572361270
that's a really cute mew mew you know... ignoring the MESS
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>>572361294
The Soul gives instructions (based on Kris' thoughts most likely too), then Kris makes ART
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>>572361117
Tomoky Fox called me, it will be a Pink Sweepstake
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>>572361208
Also replying here because I didn't see that you also replied here.

>i hope that we get more answers other than dess' fate because there are still plenty of things we need to see (papyrus, friend, mike, asriel...)
You'll also get more clarification on the incident and why there would be dark worlds before, but it'll be vagueposty.
Papyrus will be in a very brief bit of content that confirms timeline hop Sans, Friend will be in Chapter 7, Mike will be in Chapter 7 if at all, and oh shit I forgot Asriel's supposed to be coming. Does anyone directly say it's supposed to be tomorrow? I think it'd make the most sense for him to show up at the end of the game, no?
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>>572357564
I need to drink her cyber milk until I PUKE
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>>572361186
Eggs, shadow crystals and their bosses' items, Starwalker, Shadow Mantle, fusion items
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>>572361198
I know it sounds tiring but I do genuinely like the idea we have only one ending but like 5 different routes we have to play with entirely new stories just to put the pieces in place to get the ending just to make it more impactful
Complain all you want I like gaming
>>572361208
Give me Papyrus or give me death (and please give me the six flowers return during the Roaring to help you Finale style)
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I haven't been here in a while, how are we liking the new chapter so far? I'm certainly mixed about it.
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>>572360882
The history of an object will reflect their history in the dark world. King is a playing card that was discarded for getting scratched hence his hatred for lighteners and Tenna was depressed because people stopped watching him, whether it’s last Thursday ism generated based off of what happened in the light world or darkners are always pseudo-conscious is up to interpretation
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>>572361334
Did you miss the part about Darkners not turning to stone in Castle Town?
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Chapter 5 should have been chapter 3
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>>572361270
>alphys bought the 90's realistic urinating mew mew cutie
>this plus flowerking shelter code implies 199X timeline
HOLY LUDOKINO I KNEEL
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>>572361329
no living being can survive since the food is fake anyway in the dark world
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how come we haven't got any new greens for this character?
was it really that bad or are people still grasping the characters?
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My delusion of Deltarune Chapter 6
>Kris is alone in class because Noelle's dad is dying and Susie is in the Dark World
>After school Susie tells Kris to go get Noelle, still totally unaware about what's going on
>Kris does not get Noelle and instead goes to the Holiday Mansion to intercept the guitar before Susie has a chance to ever get close to it again
>Catti and Berdly are also present to support Noelle while her dad's fucking dying
>Everything seems like it's going OK until Susie shows up unannounced and Kris panic-creates a Dark World
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>>572361190
Yeah that's more so what I mean. On the normal route the idea of using Snowgrave isn't something she (or an unspoilered player) would even know about, but on the failed(?) weird route she'll both know it and be more willing to use it if ordered to. Maybe I'm just setting myself up for disappointment but I actually think I'm more excited for the potential differences in Chapter 6 than whatever is going to happen after inserting Chapter 7 Side B.
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>>572361531
I disagree, the emotional beats would have been much weaker without 4 coming first to fully establish the stakes we'd been brushing aside for 1-3.
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>>572361294
Kris has freedom to interpret our instructions
>"Gotta smell good" means not looking in the drawer
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So the reason why ch.5 NEEDED to be released in June was because of the trans representative.
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>>572361363
I still think we should have gotten a Ramb secret boss fight... maybe chapter 6 or ch3 post-ch7 New Game+?
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if chapter 7 released on the 10th anniversary would you nut
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Chapter 5 = Chapter 1 reused enemies
Chapter 6 = Chapter 2 reused enemies
Chapter 7 = Chapter 3 reused enemies
Chapter 8 = Chapter 4 reused enemies

Discuss
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>>572361479
I was stoked at the beginning, then a little mixed during the Ch1 rehash and then absolutely blown away for the most part all the way till the end.
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>>572361294
kris chooses precisely how much they embody or follow the dialogue options selected. it's all kris
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this is my cute whiteboy wife.
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>>572361652
who do you think was controlling MARE in the game?
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>>572361479
it's grown on me
post release threads helped
helps that the gameplay is probably some of the best yet
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>>572361531
For me it's
>chapter 1
>chapter 2
>chapter 3
>chapter 5
>chapter 4
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>>572361606
I read "emotional bleats" at first
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>>572361553
>post is 19 Jun
>ch3 release date 4 Jun
>today is 29 Jun
>ch5 release date 24 Jun
it'll take a bit longer because straight shota is more attractive to /utg/ than yaoi and flowery is built for fucking your dad
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>>572357486
Susie this, Noelle that... Did everyone collectively fucking forgot that Kris KIDNAPPED HIS OWN FATHER?! If that's not evil, I don't know what is. There are no excuses this time, no matter the reasons, it is evil.
Why people are still stuck on "poor Kris" phase?
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>>572361363
>>572361652
My man was definitely robbed
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>>572361526
Doesn't matter. If having fountains open brings the Roaring closer, there is no reason to keep Castle Town but for selfish wishes. It is as far as we know, unnecessary. Flowery brought up a good point.
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>>572357889
Chapter 6 is corrupted Castle Town leading into the sjelter
Chapter 7 is the Roaring with all of Hometown in dark world mode
I used to be a Holiday house dark world truther, but the ARG email response for it changed my mind. I don't think the hospital works for a dark world because there's only a couple of things there that would make decent Darkners which isn't enough to carry a whole chapter. Nothing else in Hometown is story relevant enough for a standalone dark world. I see people say town hall will get a dark world which makes no sense because chapter 4 beats you over the head with the fact that there's nothing important in town hall.
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>>572361479
For me, absolute banger.
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>>572361526
doesn't matter. if the castle town fountain remains open, it is directly contributing to the end of the light world and the darkners. especially given that the knight could at any time just start popping more open. trolley problem, anon.
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>>572360223
>>GUISE WHAT IF LE TIME WIMBLY WOMBLY TRAVEL
Anon idk if you slept through Undertale but it's literally a game about time travel, yours and Flowey's knowledge across timelines is expressly needed to achieve the true ending and sans outright confirms there are observable effects of save/loading during his fight and his whole defeatist attitude is about knowing he can never truly kill the anomaly causing the time loop if it were malicious. Kris also has save/load powers and we play through their memories on the sword route, they are literally never surprised or shocked by anything. Why does everyone pretend that these aren't factors that have always existed?
>>572359209
>Also timeloop/replay theories make no sense, the game is already going to be 40 hours or so and no sane developer is going to expect people to replay that with minor changes to get to the ending
The weird route time loop already happened and we're playing it. Kris becomes violent and depressed on the weird route because they know we're dealing them to a doomed fate again
>“forbidden path” you clearly aren’t meant to tread
Yes and the sword route uses the past tense for this, now the present or future tense which means we're seeing things that HAD happened. The sword route is Kris's suppressed memories of pushing the boundaries as far as possible and still failing
>>572360250
>I assume the one singing Don't Forget is actually Noelle though after Chapter 5,
Possibly, but I still think it's dess so far in that I still believe all the lyrical music except maybe flower man was written by dess at some point
>>572361291
>Are you saying Rudy has a friend inside him
I know you're probably just joking but no, I'm saying he probably took a severe wound in the dark world that's causing his body to fail. Berdly's body temp falls even though his arm is wounded by an explosion and not ice magic.
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>>572361724
*blows bong rip up his ass and makes him too high*
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>>572361594
My prediction fo Aborted Weird Route is that it's going to be mostly the same as normal route with some hints that things are irrevocably fucked and then it ends on a stinger like Tainted Pacifist in Undertale
Something like a post-credits scene where you find out Kris and Noelle committed suicide for real or something
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Smooshing Ralsei and Noelle’s asses together around your Kris hotdog
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>>572361747
I think that's cool but c'mon, he's a plug boy he deserves a badass WereWire form
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>>572361818
I kinda like Ramb being too much of a wallflower and just wanting to please Kris. He doesn't strike me as someone who'd lash out violently or fight in any way. Or as ambitious as any of the others. But I wonder what the hell happened to him. The 8 bit homunculus Kris took him away iirc.
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>>572361665
wait which enemies were reused? am i stupid?
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>>572361913
pizzapants is so lucky
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>>572358031
>The shelter dark world is like Castle Town but for the bad guys
This part is true actually
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>>572361913
pizzapants is so lucky
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>>572361913
I LOVE YOU BRATTY
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>>572361913
Pizzapants could have been so lucky if that gay loser didnt fuck it up
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>>572362014
>>572361976
pizzapantsmind
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>>572361363
>Am I understanding these correctly so far? Also why's Jevil the onyl one that doesn't have clear ties to a lightner except allegorical ones.
>"It's not me who's in prison, it's everyone else!"
The connection is obviously with Susie and whoever stayed in Castle Town too much.
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>>572361816
Ralsei trusts the Kris and out of the three idiots Ralsei has the best intentions and most sanity so I'm trusting Kris at least tentatively
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Kinda weird that it hasn't been suggested in game that we've gotta go INTO the fountains. Like they're clearly gateways linked to somewhere else.
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>>572361479
My favorite chapter
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>>572361953
I mean I'd have thunk 8-bit Kris (sounds like a 2010s AVGN knockoff) killed him but if he took him away that still means he could come back
I hope so not enough British representation in these games
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>>572361953
>The 8 bit homunculus Kris took him away iirc.
Nope.
* (K... Kris!! I was so scared, I couldn't move!! Ramb was... Ramb was...!)
* (... wait a second, that's funny. Kris... didn't you already go past?)
The dust bunny saw what happened to Ramb but doesn't connect the game-Kris to it.
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>>572361479
Probably the best Chapter so far.
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>>572361923
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>>572361873
So you think the story will end without the knight being defeated... interesting theory, anon.

Also I need to point this out. There's nothing stopping anyone on the planet from just...opening a dark world whenever they want. Better be careful digging a hole, a little too much determination as you pierce the ground with the shovel and now your mower is trying to beat your ass.
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>>572362140
Ralsei overtly signed his own suicide note by handing Kris (you) the reins in the pool. I don't think you want to be following his lead
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>CAN'T YOU SEE MY HAND ON MY DICK
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>>572361858
>>572361873
I kinda get it, but still, it's like if you have two fallout shelters and one of them fits more people and has better life support. If you only have enough power for one of them, the choice, while cruel, is obvious.
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>>572361959
Floradinn, tropical star birds
Literally the environment and other NPCs was a reversion of ch.1. But hey, at least Starwalker now have a friend.
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>>572361816
the knight planned to kidnap toriel too

I assume it might go after the dreemurrs cause they were so close to the holidays (and its most likely a holiday)

So they can bring them to the shelter, carols own version of castle town, where she can delulu herself into believing dess is back and nothing is wrong or ever will be wrong ever

Would be pretty depressing if carols and kris's plan is to just grab everyone close to them and live in delusion, replaying the same happy memories on repeat instead of moving on with their lives, seeing it as the best option for their close ones
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>>572361479
Starts off pretty strong. Light world is entertaining as always
Dark world swings wildly between boring and high art
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>>572359475
Friskfag here, I still love Frisk, I just don't have the fire to post them all day every day anymore.
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>>572362146
>enter dark world by falling down
>leave darkworld by floating up

hmm
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>>572362161
it's my favourite chapter but then again I'm a /jp/sie so the pandering resonated super hard with me
I mean that and it's got peak gameplay and music
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I legit cannot get Flower Man out of my head, I have been listening to it for days.
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>>572362239
Oh, I just now noticed his armor glistening in the shadow that's neato.
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>>572361479
Many people are mixed about it, and I get it, maybe even agree with a lot of points (festival and secret boss especially), but the good parts are just so good that it's easily my favorite chapter.
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>>572361880
>Anon idk if you slept through Undertale but it's literally a game about time travel
>my first game had a passable plot, therefore i am not allowed to grow or do anything else as an author
what a blindingly abysmal justification for your theory never cook again
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>>572362272
i am happy you are still around. you guys always seemed devout...
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>>572361858
>>572361873
it's needed for balance, it's been said in fucking chapter 1
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>>572361816
Kris has been ignoring their calls and seemed visibly distressed whenever the topic was brought up so it's starting to look like they're having second thoughts about all this.
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>>572362293
Is that the song that plays while Flowery rapes my ass? Fuck him.
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>>572361479
It's fantastic on its own merits, but there's parts of it that don't fit well at this point in the story.
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FLOWER MAN FLOWER MAN
WITH HIS HEART, IN THE SAND!
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>>572362293
Might be the best song of the game for now
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>>572361913
It's weird seeing Catty art where she's just normal fat and not a blob.
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>Drop your pants and touch your toes
>I'm about to show you where the wild goose goes
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Nothing special in the festival scene. A couple of cute interactions and that's it.
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>>572362293
It's no Hopes and Dreams, but it gets me emotional just by hearing it all the same.
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>>572362423
when i get better at drawing i will fix this state of affairs, its bothered me too
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>>572362225
I think it's been implied there's this specific deep darkness underneath the earth only beneath Hometown
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>>572359045
Male Noelle would get a lot of femboy art and art paired with Ralsei. And also really masculine and big gay guy art
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I think Kris/Flowery hesitating at the end of this chapter is foreshadowing an inability for one or more of the key conspirators (Kris/Knight) breaking with the plan and being unwilling to continue it
The Knight seemed weaker than usual, and might be having doubts of their own
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>>572362359
There are vague statements about the light and dark worlds living in balance but nothing that says you need to keep one dark world open to maintain balance.
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I want to have my way with flowery
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>>572362245
The value of a life is infinite, so you can't necessarily say that 7 lives are worth less than 30. More to the point, though, it's one thing to only have power for one of them. It's another thing entirely to go into that fallout shelter with an armed squad and forcibly shut it down, sealing them inside.
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>>572362121
No it's with Kris
>"I'm not trapped in this shitty time loop, I have the freedom to do anything!"
>"You all think you're free but you're all unaware of the loop and trapped in a prison of your own possibilities"
>inb4 "Kris never said that"
Obviously but it's how Flowey rationalized his own curses. Jevil also literally becomes "the devil's knife" also there are parallels between aqua and Jevil
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which adults know about the dark worlds?
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>>572358059
I think it makes more sense if it's just Noelle (maybe with the soul) and not a Kriselle fusion. We know from the strength tester that Kris and Noelle are weirdly in sync which explains the Knight's Kris-like traits and Kris would probably be more willing to help Noelle than themself (even a version of themself fused with Noelle.) Although I don't think it's all that likely even if it's just Noelle and not a fusion, it just seems kind of incongruent with the established themes. I wouldn't hate it though, and it's more interesting than Rudy Knight so there's that.
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>>572360616
>>572361074
It's not a logistical argument it's a PATHOS argument.
Flowery is asking why Castle Town Darkners(all objects who desu don't even care if they're sentitent or not) matter more than the flowers' who actually have dreams and desires.
Why is it acceptable that the fun gang can unperson the flowers just because they're the "heroes" of the story? Who are the real heroes anyways?
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>>572362570
I want to feed a cake to Flowery
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I prefer Cutie Mew Mew Magic
>She's that Mew Mew girl and she has no time to waste!
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>>572359045
Male Noelle was once a staple of /dum/
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>>572362607
asgore
carol maybe?
i think that's it?
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>>572362423
Why wouldn't you want an immobile bed bound blob cat wife to feed and wash lovingly and help to do all manner of basic tasks she is no longer capable of?
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>>572362358
Staying determined requires a special kind of faith.
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>>572362516
Which makes me wonder if it's somehow the Underground from Undertale (not inhabited of course)
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>>572361479
Starts off slow, but it really picks up once you get to the castle. The flowers are great characters; I actually teared up during their send-off. It could have done much more with the Knight, though, and I'm not at all a fan of the secret boss, both in terms of the fight itself and how Pink just can't top the ones that came before her in terms of design and how she fits into the theming.
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>>572362239
if asgore doesn't want us in the dark worlds because they're too dangerous why does he use them to aura farm so hard in front of us
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she's that mew mew girl, she'll add you to her waist
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>>572362607
Asgore
Undyne I guess lmao
Carol most likely
Rudy cause you know why
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>>5723624746
It's your own fault for your expectations up. I mean it's not like the game spent the last three chapters hyping it up or anything. Man, if it were up to Deltarune players like you, there would be a festival every single chapter.
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>>572362640
really need official lyrics for this shit already fuck you toby!!!
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>>572362293
dadadada DUH DUHHH
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>>572362581
Like I said, definitely a cruel and hard choice. That's why I still like the dilemma presented in the chapter - there are good agruments for both sides.
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>>572358218
This actually makes a lot of sense and I'll believe it unless it gets contradicted somehow.
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>>572361880
carol is going to send noelle to a gay conversion camp, realize she doesn't like susie and feels bad for crushing on her and looking past susie's severe bullying of kris before chapter 1, marry kris and have 15 kids and be much happier that way. "FIN" appears on the screen as it fades to black.

that's my theory
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YOU WOULD LIKE FAVE REGARDLESS IF THEY WERE GENDERSWAPPED OR NOT
YOUR LOVE FOR FAVE GOES BEYOND SEX
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>>572362293
it's one of the four tracks i can even remember from the chapter, the others being cutie mew mew magic, petal dance, and running sky
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This was LITERALLY Burgerpant's POV the attosecond Kris was getting cucked to death.
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>The Knight can barely keep up with this glup shitto
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>>572361437
this but unironically
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is it nostalgia or was undertale's OST better than da 'rune?
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>>572362607
Asgore
Carol
Rudy (borderline confirmed by his weirdo behavior this chapter's weird route)
Maybe Alvin but probably not
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ch5 theme:
https://youtu.be/ZuifkacZ0TA
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[TRUTHNUKE]

There wasn't any major mention of Dess in this game because Toby wants to have another year of seeing "Dess molesting child Kris" art
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>>572362713
That's an edited Touhou art, I recognise that artstyle that's dairi https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=dairi
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>Is that the titan ripping Susie's head off? Nah, still not using my magic.
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>>572362752
meant for
>>572362474
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Personal Opinion: I do not like the tasque nun.
It's taking the porn away from the new characters because Twitter Sexywoman got a different outfit.
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>>572362245
>If you only have enough power for one of them, the choice, while cruel, is obvious
this supposes that no one ever, ever creates another dark fountain post dead knight even though its so simple. if the castle town fountain stays open... it's in the school closet. how does it just exist forever like that? no one does anything in response to this? i dont think there's a darkner happily ever after like that
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>>572362820
How can you forget Seven Suns...
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>>572362785
I hope this happens. we didn't have a red flower in asgore's shop. this is going to be kino.
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>>572362898
he cant rig against the knight or titan, same way flowery's fake stats got ignored
he only has power over dark world stuff
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>>572362971
FACT:
None of the new characters deserve porn
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>>572362971
I agree desu, it felt too on the nose and she doesn't need more.
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>>572362359
That's not how it works
The dark exists regardless of fountains, the dark world is the inanimate things' interpretation of the light world. The fountains only allow the lightners to perceive the dark world as it is
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>>572362971
do not be greedy aquafag... you must learn to share...

i'm not sure tasque and aqua have much horny crossover anyway, thinking about it. cunny vs stacked furry?
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>>572362872
It's a mixed bag. The highlight Undertale tracks are near the end of the game (Asgore, Finale, Hopes and Dreams, Megalovania) so, cutting the game off at Hotlands or something I'd say Deltarune has Undertale beat overall, but not by much and maybe only by quantity and given the structure of the game (more chances to showcase different variations of motifs and whatnot).
Jarona!
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So, was Mew mew's shadow crystal a creation rather than a handout? Seam mentions how it's creation is based on the idea of having a dream, and holding it dear, but if the dream is broken, it eventually turns into the shadow crystal. The book you find in the hidden area of Ch4 also talks about tears falling from the sky and eventually transforming into something else, so maybe it's an allegory for that?

So Mew mew potentially cried over the idea of never truly owning that body for themselves, despite how much they liked it, and the doll gained the shadow crystal after the formation of the fountain.
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MR FAAAVVVEEEEESSSSSSSSS
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>>572358931
Meteor theory still undefeated. Ralsei being Artemisia is even more evidence by the way.
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>>572362376
That excuse only works for Undyne, a stranger. Seconds thoughts or not, kidnapping your own father is evil. Actions matter.
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>>572362785
Oh my god the flowers, a perfect excuse to reuse some enemies (like the unused orchid mantises )

Personally I want us to just have like something that looks 1-for-1 like Flowey from undertale but with Chara's face to go "Greetings... I... Am Rosie"
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Having no voice dialogue in Chapter 5 is kind of disappointing to me
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>>572362814
But what if the nonbinary Kris is a bio-girl?
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>>572362995
the mob boss shit makes me giggle uncontrollably, love him and normalnpc so much
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>>572362991
The thing I've been wondering about is how no one else at school found it yet. There has to be some deterring magic or something, but does it work selectively then?
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>>572362359
>t. prince "reliable narrator" ralsei
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She's a Mew Mew Girl and she's got a toupée
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>>572362885
Then is weird route Noelle between two worlds?

>I'm infected! I'm infected!
>You have invaded, and recreated me!
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>>572362971
I agree she isn’t nearly as hot as Maddie or Aqua
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>>572363025
he didnt even try
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>>572363164
THAT'S A LOT OF HEROINES THEN
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There is literally no evidence at all for carol knowing about dark worlds. People are basing this entirely on her AS YOU KNOW creepy knowing vibes, but if she knew she’d have absolutely opened one by now, and Asgore also tells you to tell her about dark worlds in chapter 5. He cleans her house and schizoboard.
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>>572363164
toby fox will wake up with a hot steaming email in his e-mailbox begging him to retcon it
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there was a "he'll never develop" shitpost with the puzzle piece doing a cereal spittake but i didn't save it and i can't find it after searching for myself help please :)
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>>572363206
maybe everyone is retarded, it *is* the same characters as the Undertale world lol
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>>572362705
Fuck I think I get Noellefags now.
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>>572362971
TRVKE
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>>572363206
when was the last schoolday? i forgot. chapter 2? Why were we in the library? feels like there's been a long weekend.
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>>572362889
>wish i was kris and got molested by dess
>realize i'd probably hate it and be traumatized for life
>still wish it happened to me anyway
When am I going to kill myself?
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>>572363080
I'm a Seth/Orangefag not an Aquafag.
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>>572362752
nta but a part of me feels like that's intentional(not copium)
The festival is supposed to be this really wholesome fun event where you hang out with your friends. But Kris being in cahoots with the Knight and having their own shit to deal with can't have fun with Susie and Noelle.
There's this deflating feeling that alongside, Kris you're not fully into it. You're feeling left out when your other friends are having fun without you and you don't feel needed. You ask what was even the point, why were you even hyped for the festival of course it sucked. But that's exactly how Kris feels and in that brief moment you get what it's like to be Kris every single day.
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>>572362607
>"There's no law against Dark Worlds anyway!"
>"That's a job for the school board!"
At a minimum Undyne, Toriel and Gerson. Maybe Alphys, probably Carol and probably Alvin.
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>>572360835
>it also means the Delta rune Code would be behind the sealed door
Nah, Ralsei is going to reveal that there's a passageway to the shelter/depths there and that they never needed the codes in the first place, which might piss Susie off enough for a fellowship dissolution arc.
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>>572363340
oh, sorry my mistake. good luck porple. the nerd is cute. cuter than alphys
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>>572363164
Aqua is a younger Kris theory comes in to tell us Kris has a fuckable pussy and suppressed mesugaki instincts
it is foretold
>>572363408
https://youtu.be/gH6-8DR2AyA
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>>572362872
>ASGORE
>Hopes and Dreams
>Megalovania

Deltarune has an amazing soundtrack with many bangers, but none have been able to top any of those three, except MAYBE Big Shot and Guardian.
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>>572362971
>I do not like the tasque nun
that's fine, it's okay to have the wrong opinion, i'll allow it!
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>>572362971
I'm upset the mantis is as hidden as it is. Would've been nice if more people were introduced to it
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>>572362842
he deserved to WIN
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>>572363086
It was probably a creation but I don't know if it was Pink's dream, since it came true the second the Dark World was created rather than being a failed/impossible dream like Spamton and his NEO body's for example
Maybe it's a thing where the reason she didn't go totally nuts with the Crystal in hand was because it came true?
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TEN
FEET
TWENTY
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>>572363274
I just desperately need lesbian femcel Kris cucked by Susie to be canon.
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>>572363314
>Chapter 2 is library day for the sake of the project
>Chapter 3 is Saturday
>Chapter 4 is Sunday
>Chapter 5 is the Festival
Oh yeah, it checks out. Shit's gonna really go down in Chapter 6 then, I hope there's a School Dark World.
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>Kris...
>...as YOU know...
>...I still really, really need your mother's pie recipe.
>Also if you see Rudy in that ridiculous medieval cosplay outfit again, tell him I want him to come home.
>He shouldn't be exerting himself too much.
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>>572362971
It felt too easy
also I like how funny this Eram design is in hindsight considering the new "Eram and Aqua are younger representations of Kris" theories connecting the two
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>>572363331
Don't worry, Kris also wishes to be molested by Dess instead of watching his brother kiss and fuck his childhood crush.
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>>572362636
>>572363073
>>572363218
SHUT THE FUCK UP! IT'S IN THE PROPHECY! MY FOUNTAIN IS MORE IMPORTANT! END OF THE STORY!
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>>572362872
the big UT songs had a large amount of build up and pay off. The deltarune songs have been great, but we haven't really had 'that' song outside of maybe big shot.
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>>572363086
>So Mew mew potentially cried over the idea of never truly owning that body for themselves
Yeah I think Maddy's shattered dream was owning a cute body like that for herself, and moving around in it, but since DR ghosts can't merge with bodies like they could in UT, she knows she never will. I think this is accurate in the creation of the crystal. And it's the same reason Mettaton is also so broken down and depressed, and how Spamton was able to take advantatge of his dream too. It's kind of sad the kind of life DR ghosts live, you feel really bad for both and it's good you get to help them achieve their dream somewhat.

But regardless, as she finds herself in a dark world, her dream manages to come true, and the Mew Mew darkner isn't sapient enough to explain anything about the crystal, that's why she's like "Here, I have this crystal thingie". She doesn't understand that's the thing her body was using to control her, nor feel anything about the crystal.
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>>572362808
You should believe everything I say because I'm smart and confident and charming and don't extrapolate dumb bullshit and just analyze the text and narrative
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>>572363086
>Ramb didn't become a secret boss because no one would cry for him
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Nyon!
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I'm just glad Deltarune will end relatively soon. Lets get this over with
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>>572363569
I definitely think Ch6 might open with a half-Dark World that has you attempt to leave Castle Town only to stay in the dark world because it's just expanded
Nothing much except maybe an opportunity for a Jevil rechallenge if you didn't "dealt with him now" like Seam suggested (also just a cheap way for blind noobies to get the last shadow crystal if they somehow got every one except Jevils and would have to restart otherwise)
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i liked the mew mew fight, i think I might just be cracked at purple soul mode
. Especially liked the circling rings and the bombs
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>>572363331
anon-friend, you don't actually wish to be molested. You are just frustracted about the lack of affection you got from friends and family during your childhood.
Because of that situation you imagine a situation where you could have gotten an extreme amount of affection, being molested.
Its best to not think about "what ifs" and instead focus on here and now.
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>>572361858
>>572361873
There's a world of difference between floodgate built in a dam (Castle Town) and a cracks in dam (other fountains). If there's too many cracks, the dam will burst. That's why cracks need to be sealed. On other hand, if you barricade the floodgate, it will cause dam to overflow, also leading to disaster.
You understand now? Floodgate (Castle Town) need to be OPEN. Cracks (other fountains) need to be CLOSED.
Source: Ralsei and Prophecy ("A world basked in purest light. Beneath it, GREW eternal night."). Darkness is actively growing. Sealing all fountains will lead to disaster.
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>>572363569
>I hope there's a School Dark World
A-anon, I....
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>>572363723
sex pillow
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>>572363610
The Eram design being so prophetic is pretty funny
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>>572363569
>I hope there's a School Dark World.
There's already a Dark World in School
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>flowery is an obvious Rudy parallel
>fucking dies at the end of the chapter
Not looking good...
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>>572363206
the narrative escape card so far is that it's only been like five days. two of which, school was out. time's ticking, anon.
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>>572363636
To be fair, if Ralsei at some point took a page from Flowery and said "It's staying because I said so", I'd fucking clap
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I DON'T WANT DELTARUNE TO END

THE LIFE FOREVER FOR FLOWERS
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>>572363729
Yeah, and I like the game
Ch6 sounds like it's doing pretty well during the ch5 release date announcement
don't remember enough details about the leadup to Ch5 but my prediction is we might get Ch6 before the end of the year in December (har har har)
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>English Raper Reacts To The Deltarune Soundtrack
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>>572357889
Hospital, Town Hall or Manor, but they’re all going to have a snow theme and ice palace as the third act. Every chapter’s dark world has had three sections with the final one being raiding the antagonist’s castle/inner sanctum. Even Chapter 4 follows this by having it be the inner section of the church after unlocking the doors.
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>>572363806
goat hands typed this post.

There is no logical reason for castle town being different to any other dark world. Why have that one exist and not one of the others? Oh, it's so ralsei can exist. Oh, it's so susie and kris can use it as escapism.

there will be repercussions for this.
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Here I come San Francisco!
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>>572363331
From experience it kind of fucks you for life in a really weird way I do not recommend. Still wish I was molested by Dess though.
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>>572363723
leblebelblbbl
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>>572363814
>>572363857
Not the closet, but the whole school, preferably with all the students still inside. That could go many different ways, and the connection to the closet would allow for a Castle Town battle at the end.
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>Carol has no idea her husband is the knight
>finds out
>"Young man, you are coming home this instant."
>drags him away
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>>572363875
to be fair, there isn't anything saying that *all* the fountains need to be closed in the prophecy, right? so castletown can totally be left up. could be a way for ralsei to actually defy fate.
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>>572358218
alright bet now do jevil's crystal
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>>572363086
The shadow crystal was created inside the figurine darkner by the 'irritable ghost' lightner; the latters 'lost dream' of being desirable and cute
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>>572363086
Yeah, that's how it went
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Weird Route fans just casually pump out the most beautiful paintings
It's been this way since chapter 2, it's nuts
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>>572363914
I like the idea Noelle is an idiot and opens multiple dark worlds (gives an excuse to reuse the same Noelle Dark World sprites ala Susie's Dark World in ch4) and we get several shorter ones
Though that might be quite disappointing
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ERAM won't look like Aqua
It'll look like Aqua as a Boss Monster because it's the red horn headband that manifests itself as Kris's monstersona
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>>572363924
>Why have that one exist and not one of the others?
I just answered this, faggot.
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I read an interesting idea on the crystals and egg stuff, what do you think?

>The reason the egg is "evidence" is because they'll somehow allow for proving dark worlds exist, or that they aren't just a fantasy entirely, and matter
>This is because the eggs never change between the dark world and reality, similar to the shadow crystals. One is pure white and mundane, the other pure dark, translucent and fantastical in nature
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>>572359690
Pink explicitly can't exist in the light world in that form
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>>572363885
JARONA
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What is The Knight's goal? If it's the Roaring then I think she could've achieved that long ago. She can casually open as many fountains as she want and summon Titans.
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>>572363980
toby cannot/doesn't want to handle a chapter with more than like 4 actual characters at once. It's a good limitation desu, worked in undertale (zones), has worked in deltarune. All students entering a dark world would probably get messy.
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>>572363815
Not every darkner is for sex
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>>572363474
Megalovania isn't even one of the top 5 Undertale songs, I feel like I'm an alien when people say it's like the best song Toby's ever made. It's good but even Flower Man is better to me. I guess the context of where it plays is why.
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I should have realized it sooner
Ralsei doesn't just have 'strong fire magic'
He has a fire equivalent of Snowgrave
It's been implied that Ralsei's ultimate role in the story is to turn into the final titan and get killed by the heroes
Weird Route is Kris specifically grooming Noelle into becoming the ultimate weapon against that, hoping their strongest magic either cancels each other out or else explodes and kills them both but saves the world
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>>572363956
Was it a hot girl at least, like damn man sorry you had to go through that
>>572364108
We need to collect the eggs to create the White Knight (which is Papyrus, explaining the egg during his date in UT)
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which areas we still have to explore in the light world?
the apartments, the closed classroom, the closed room in the dreemurrs house, after the police tape, other side of the lake and the shelter
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deltayiik
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>>572364168
>*regular pillow
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I want Eram and Aqua to rape me
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>>572364168
factually untrue
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I haven't looped a song this much since Undertale.
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>>572364116
If Pink actually fused with her body that's bad, badder, yet badder news for her. It means she's in "I have no mouth and I must scream" situation while in the Light World.
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>>572364108
I'm not sure I'm convinced but I wouldn't discount it
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>>572364116
but does anyone KNOW this? she seems clueless about it and only does what ralsei, kris and susie says is possible (they'd have no idea that NEOS can live in the light world)
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>>572364132
I think the critical information Ralsei is holding back will change everything about the knight and the roaring and the motivations of everyone involved. Kinda worried Toby won’t pull it off. But I think it’s gotta be some big twist that has breadcrumbs but we never see coming.
>>572364168
Yes, they are, you marshmallow onahole.
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>>572359406
>>572359847
the source is these threads
I don't know the name of the artist
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>>572364107
but why couldnt one of the other dark worlds be the flood gates, and we close castle town as it's a crack? I think you misunderstood me, I'm just saying there's nothing unique about the castle town dark fountain.
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>>572364175
It's pretty good but there's the issue of overexposure to it.
Hopes and Dreams, on the other hand, is a genuine masterpiece and one of the best video games song ever written (in context). This is an objective fact, don't bother arguing.
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Honestly NormalNPC is the first time Gaster and his lore have been relevant
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>>572364206
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>>572364175
it's definitely becuase megalovania is way older has been milked to shit by the fandom. but on it's own it's really a banger and the hype was well deserved. Flowerman does sound better because it's fresh and I get that I love it too.
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>>572362971
TM was an absolute tragic mistake of letting a pornbait guest character exist for no reason.
It would be fine if the punchline wasn't "look at all the lowest common denominator goonslop this character has" and there was a point to it all. It's not even a gay pornslop character which I would be a fan of.
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>>572363280
>Asgore also tells you to tell her about dark worlds in chapter 5. He cleans her house and schizoboard.
Damn, that's a good point. The thing is, they BOTH have access to the shelter. So... what the fuck's in the shelter?
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>>572364310
>there's nothing unique about the castle town dark fountain
Other Anons already addressed it: >>572360616
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>>572364332
utterly false. normalnpc is still a "background" element, like gaster has been before (sans' house etc)
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HERE I
HERE I COME
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>>572363770
>I definitely think Ch6 might open with a half-Dark World that has you attempt to leave Castle Town only to stay in the dark world because it's just expanded
I could absolutely see Susie and Noelle majorly fucking something up and causing this.
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>>572364007
actually it might already be in the prophecy that castle town fountain remain open
>the worlds
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>Hello, Kris. I am normal.
>Is your brother still dead or has h-fuck.
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>>572364432
chud, it can be gay tho' because lesbian could like her or something
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>>572364332
NEW FUTURE...
Vessel Maker...
SHALL WE HASTEN?...
HIS DELTARUNE...
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>>572364045
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ten threads, twenty, the 4chan man
spends all day posting and getting mad
when will he realize that his life's so sad?
he bumps the threads daily
hoping to gain more than he had
find posts that could brighten up the bland
life that he deems to be so clearly bad
so he lived the

4chan man, 4chan man
with his cock in his hand
he demands
art fags to make more porn
then gets banned
day and night in his plight
he ignores the joys of life
ain't it sad
the life forever for
channers
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>>572364045
I LOVE CHILDHOOD TRAUMA
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>>572364116
Yeah. Just like the flowers, "Pink" has to leave once the Dark World vanishes. I wonder what will actually happen to her lightner body. Is she a bedsheet ghost like Blooky, is she the "Purple Mew Mew" ghost after merging or what.

>>572364267
God that's horrifying, it can't be that bad. I think merging doesn't affect the lighner world at all. But I hope the worst case scenario is her becoming a comedy sentient little doll with an actually merged functional body, if the magic goes into the other world.
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What's the cutest Aqua voice you've heard so far?
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i dont even wanna hajve sex with ralsei i just wanna cuddle and maybe have him sing a lullaby to me as i drift off to sleep
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>>572364485
>It's actually Catti creating it
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>>572364013
Like I said here:
>>572362590
Jevil represents Kris's coping with having the powers to save/load and being trapped in whatever period of time the game takes place over. The "broken dream" Jevil has is Kris's own grief over and ultimate acceptance of their situation before they resolve to "get stronger and break the boundaries" (SNeo/Weird route). Also on the Jevil/Aqua comparisons, Jevil oddly laughs like "uee hee hee" in text and aqua goes "uuu" all the ti and they both have a tendency of repeating words and phrases
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>>572364132
It's goal is to fulfill the prophecy as it's simply just another puppet
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>Kris and Noelle become huge because they noclip into the Source Engine skybox area
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>>572364432
>It's not even a gay pornslop character
just add the futa tag or something my dude
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>>572364045
As always
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Is there a reliable YouTuber you like for theories? Also, I’m guessing I can find it all spread out, but any one stop shop for maximum variety so I can see 100% every option every playthrough of every chapter?
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>>572363280
>and Asgore also tells you to tell her about dark worlds in chapter 5.
I figured this was to show that she's misleading him, keeping him close to monitor his discoveries. She knows more than he does, but he doesn't know that
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>>572364332
It's the first time they've had a direct physical impact on the light world.
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>>572363497
the WHAT
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>>572364584
Some of the best ones are the ones that contrast their childhood days with the events of WR
It's so juicy
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>>572364763
JaruJaruJ.
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>>572364432
it really took away from the weirdroute kino. I'm a sucker for skinny dipping. hell the ralsei onsen moment only got one good animation.
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>>572364636
>Catti's knowledge of Satanic rituals coming back into play
Not the worst twist, to be honest
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>>572364168
literally made to fulfill human desires and you're trying to tell me they aren't for sex???
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>>572364809
lmao
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>>572364626
>not even a kiss
faggot
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Seam will use attacks from all the previous schizobosses because it will turn out that they have been in contact with them all before
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>>572364784
if you back track to the second diner, Aqua is playing with 2 mantis girls in kimonos. There's also an archer variant of the terracotta warrior.
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>>572364486
>>the worlds
That's really ambiguous, could also refer to timelines or the infinite variations of time and space that gaster scattered throughout, etc
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>>572364562
She's not designed for lesbians either.
That's a heterosexual object of desire with the most basic bitch fetishes and it's gross. It's like a bondage leather daddy doing the hard gay thing with leather and spikes being included not even as a joke but just to generate porn. Even the actual gay version of this character would be tragic to see, I'd just be into it.
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>>572364784
the mantis with big tits
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>>572363806
you concocted the floodgate analogy out of pure headcanon so im ignoring it. ralseis words are meaningless because hes a liar. the prophecies words which do matter are
>A world basked in purest light. Beneath it, grew eternal night
is a direct reference to flowery's comment that something fucked up is growing below hometown. if you wanna argue that flowery is a lieing faggot which, idk. he was on his deathbed after already admitting he knew he was doomed. doesnt mean he couldnt be making up all that bs about flowers being able to "feel things." given how fucked up hometown is ch 5, i tend to believe him.
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>>572364607
the one in my head when I played which sounded exactly like Maria Umineko
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>>572364578
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>>572359791
Extremely based
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>>572364578
https://voca.ro/1jGCPNCJvwWU
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susie's gonna tell catti to shut her fat fucking mouth, and open a dark fountain right in front of her, and catti will run away like scooby doo with the spinning legs

said toby fox
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>>572364763
Some FAKE CONTRARIANS shittalk the savior and owner of this general, Andrew Cunnylingus, but his videos are very good.
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>>572364769
Yeah but *why* would she do that? She’s trying to solve things, not enact an evil plot. keeping Asgore in the dark is counterintuitive.
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>>572364591
>I think merging doesn't affect the lighner world at all.
In Undertale, once you actually merge (NOT possession!), it's permanent. You're no longer a ghost anymore. That said, Mad Mew Mew never actually merged in Undertale, only Glad Dummy did.
(Then again, Spamton wanted a Lightner SOUL to "ascend to heaven (presumably light world)" so I dunno)
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Step the FUCK back.
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>(You) live in pre-DR Hometown
>(You) find out about dark worlds
>no soul bullshit, no device
What's the first thing you're doing with this new power?
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>>572364756
I like fluffy hair Noelle, she looks like an 80s gal
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>>572364907
that's why I said "might"
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If we go all of Deltarune without the castle town fountain being sealed, Toby will officially be a hackfraud
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>>572364921
i don't think it's too bad after the cunny and trannycock in this chapter, isn't it?
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>>572364756
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VlztbSPRqyY
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>>572364973
KINOOOO
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>>572359791
holy shit this works so well
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>>572358178
hopes and dreams
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>>572365168
i know that's true...
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>>572365087
I know, I'm just throwing the possibilities against the wall anon
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>>572359791
Don't apologize. Not for this. I love you.
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>Kriselle Amalgamknight
Dessbros... we really are just memories....
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>>572359791
I am very JARONAful
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>>572364973
sugoi
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>>572365042
UT Mew Mew manages to half fuse, kind of. It's why you can be a dickhead and tear her to pieces in the end. But she doesn't die like Mettaton or the Glad Dummy so I wonder what's up with that.
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>>572365061
I think I would open and close Fountains periodically in my closet, hang out with my favorite Darkners, then hug them goodbye and promise it'll not be very long till next Fountain.
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>>572364945
Prophecy's "Growing darkness" is fuckin' literal. Did you forget about Earth herself drawing her final breath?
Flowery's "darkness under hometown" thing is purely metaphorical. It's just Knight's conspiracy with Kris and other citizens.
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>>572364712
Futa is a straight fetish numbers.
TM is not a good character and does not get good porn. I don't even want those artists drawing Ralsei.
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https://x.com/octigone/status/2071452201411555595?s=20

aqua
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>>572361363
whos that guy in the middle here
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>NormalNPCs is just dead at some point
>There's a note stuck to it
>It's all in windings, if translated
>"I'm not associated with this fellow.
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>>572365369
>Futa is a straight fetish numbers
Are we still doing this cope in 2026?
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>>572365332
It's going to go way, way worse than that if we're being honest
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>>572365051
I love these guys but I wish the other 6 flowers had more chill besties moments with Flowery. He should've showed up randomly during a cafe talk.
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>>572365397
this has to be bait
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>>572365332
>Well, talking about fucking...
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>>572365397
Exactly.
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>>572365369
>Futa is a straight fetish numbers
lol? it turns the video or artwork into literal penis focus
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>>572365536
this would instantly make me like suselle
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>>572365384
I was worried this would be Aqua naked
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>>572365397
Ramb the little plug guy who enables you to do the sword route in chapter 3. He's not a secret boss nor does he have a shadow crystal but he gets lumped in anyway by low literacy larpers
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>>572365397
Some fan character, I think his name is Roomba.
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>>572365061
even if i learn that it could risk a roaring, im making at least one to play through a platformer dark world. dont even type the word parkour at me. retarded hobby for adrenaline junkies
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>>572364664
who's that bum with the fishing rod
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A FLOWER'S DREAM
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To be fair it would be dumb for Friend to be a secret boss because all secret bosses are not main characters by definition and we want Friend to be one of the main antagonists like The Knight
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>>572360987
>t. did my phd dissertation on fujos
imagine being the poor sod forced to read that
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>>572365051
Ohh we back on the block again, back with the rock again, watchin for cops again all about the profitin
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>Chapter 1 - NES Soundfont
>Chapter 2 - F-Zero(?) Soundfont
>Chapter 3 - TMNT Soundfont
>Chapter 4 - Some JRPG probably soundfont
>Chapter 5 - Megaman X Soundfont
>Chapter 6 - Kirby's Dreamland 3 Soundfont
https://youtu.be/t43ZIrsfof0?is=otUHkRaxbGdTe_gW
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>>572361363
>>572365397
Spot the guest designed character.
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>>572365614
>worried
uh huh. i'm watching you...
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>>572364763
Andrew Cunningham is easily my favorite theorist, a lot of people find him a bit bland since he doesn’t like to stretch logic much but his videos do pretty comprehensive analysis in their respective subject
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>>572365061
I'd just have fun with the fountains. There isn't much else I can do, really. I'd go on a bunch of solo adventures
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>>572365748
Fewer Ws under his belt than Jaru btw
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Mew Mew secret boss was foreshadowed back in Undertale.
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>>572365762
>I'd just have fun with the fountains.
Yeah, obviously, I'm asking what kind of solo adventures would you try to set up.
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Congratulations to Toby for making his most kino character yet.
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>>572365748
>Andrew Cunningham
Only watch videos. His streams are... there's no other way to put it. Streams are shit.
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>>572364206
the unexpected sequel to deltarune where you play as asriel, born from a collaboration between toby fox and ackk studios
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>>572365597
I'd argue the opposite. I can't focus on a cock that is not attached to a man.
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>>572365678
CAUSE WE ARE THE FLOWER TEENS
MAKE YOUR DADDY SAY HO AND YOUR BUDDY WANNA SCREAM
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I know that the reason she left him isn't because he was crazy, but because he became so obsessed he started to ignore his own family to find the truth, but I wonder how she would feel about it if the truth did come out.
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Susie: BE CAREFUL. SERIALKILLERTRON 6000 COULD STILL BE IN THIS DARK WORLD.
she says to Serialkillertron 6000
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>>572365730
Is NELNAL really a guest designer if they've done a design every chapter
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>>572365748
He's barely a theorist. He made a very good video about Gaster's motiff but his other work is unremarkable
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how did I not notice that scar before?
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>>572365748
>Andrew Cunningham is easily my favorite theorist
I love his production quality and he has a great narration voice but I find myself preferring his fact-finding videos over his actual theories. He's doing nuclear-grade coping about this chapter and ignoring some really important stuff because it's not what he wanted the chapter to be so I hope he gets over it soon
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>>572365853
true but you posted the wrong picture
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>>572364309
Actually the last thing I wanted to hear. Just fuels my FOMO. Fuck man.
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>>572365748
You need to get good tastes, my friend.
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>>572366019
Hoofed hands typed this post
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>>572365993
>He's doing nuclear-grade coping about this chapter and ignoring some really important stuff because it's not what he wanted the chapter to be so I hope he gets over it soon
How do you mean?
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PAY UP
I WANT... THAT!
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>>572365805
Mew Mew was the crying cat face on this thing.
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>>572365979
His main dialogue sprite had it hidden in shadow before.
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>>572365962
Everyone who isn't Temmie Chang is a guest character designer by definition
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>>572365748
>Andrew Cunningham
isn't he the guy from that ninja cartoon?
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>Oi luv-senpai, kawaii-desu, fish n chips-desu, an' all that, innit, nya?

What the fuck is Ramb supposed to be in the lightner world anyways, an AC socket? How the fuck do you play with an AC socket like Kris supposedly did? Did he like, stick knives in Ramb or something???
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Kino...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUCoLawmJMM
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do we have any idea about what asgore actually did? what was the incident? Did we learn anything more from chapter 5 other than that a dark world had something to do with it?
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>>572365926
>Am I egg-cused?
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>>572366045
have you considered embracing the transient nature of existence instead? you have one picture already, treat it like heaven and you will only be further blessed if you find the source.
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>>572365965
His main "thing" is trying to use his DR popularity to shill his other work. I don't care about your game, man, get on with this your theory or whatever.
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>>572365472
>"It's escapism, can't you see? It's not healthy!"
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>>572366090
>points to cock
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>>572366150
>kris got electrocuted as a kid theory
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>>572366152
My beloved scrimblos
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>>572366216
THE COCK OF A TRUE GENIUS!!!
>runs away
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>>572366171
VGH
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>>572366173
it was horrible.........................................ohh that terrible day, kris
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>>572365346
>Prophecy's "Growing darkness" is fuckin' literal. Did you forget about Earth herself drawing her final breath?
chapter 4 confirmed ralsei's cutscene is a simplification. the whole chapter was about how he leaves details out. youre not even trying
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Maybe I'm reading too deep into it but it seems like the more "lifelike" a Light World object is, the more humanoid their darkner form becomes.
You get that with the plantners, and there's also the mew mew doll who is a humanoid merchandise of a pre-established fictional character.
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im going to say it
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>>572366087
>How do you mean?
He's in the "siiigh this chapter didn't really do a lot for the narrative" phase and was seriously denying any Kris/Aqua connections on stream last night among other things and basically any time anyone brought up new threads to follow he basically just shut them down unless they fit into his own theories
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>>572365840
heh heh... Manga dark world.
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>>572365926
probably something along the lines of "ok, but was destroying our family worth it?"
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>>572366173
Nothing explicit yet
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>>572366326
JARONA
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EVEN IF BROKEN I AM MORE THAN GLASS
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>>572366195
Even though he quit game development to make Deltarune videos instead
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>>572364054
I think one potential opening for 6 is the heart in the cage in the bedroom and having to break out and having an unintentional stealth sequence past Toriel calling school and saying out loud for the player “maybe Kris slept over with Asgore or Susie” and eventually finding Kris collapsed near the lake or bunker and reviving them, only to have any potential light world or castle town exploration cut short by Toriel calling and saying “oh good you’re alive, go to the hospital and comfort Noelle, I’ll be there shortly.” There might be a chance for solo Kris and Seam’s pure crystal thing in castle town then but eventually the player would reach the hospital, open doors, it’s a dark world, go in, Susie and Noelle and Ralsei are already there and drama happens where Ralsei leaves and Susie tries to throuple Kris and Noelle and the latter may or may not have been the one that made the dark fountain this time.
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>>572366173
>what was the incident?
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>>572361564
if we had just listened to spamton, kris. why didnt we listen...
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Will the Flower Dreemurrs be able to pull their weight when the Underrunes have to survive a Space Jam type situation
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FLOWERMAN
FLOWERMAN
WITH HIS DICK
IN HIS HAAAAND
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>>572366326
Does anyone have that image of queen as robotnik going "YOU... YOU... DOUBLE DARKNER!"
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>>572366325
Dolls and figures tend to look more like their real world counterparts yeah. Look at Seam.
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THAT HORRIBLE DAY...
WHEN... AN EVENT OF SOME KIND
OCCURRED
ITS TOO UNBEARABLE TO GIVE ANY MORE OF A DESCRIPTION
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>>572366427
Ja-Orange!
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>>572366173
All the stuff about the lake made me think that maybe Noelle and Kris almost went under while swimming and Dess rescued them but then did not get back to shore and the body was never found, and perhaps Asgore was supposed to watch them all but got distracted, but I'm not sure that's how it went.
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>>572365979
I was like "a scar whats the big deal" then i remember, "oh right he's a playing card"
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remember when people only had chapter 1 and 2 to work with so they came up with this
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Sans is roaring knight. He gave Kris the bread to break the game. He wants to fuck Deltarune over. People are assuming he's a good guy from Undertale and that was Toby's intention.
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>>572366527
>isn't that nice? :)
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Wait a second....
Deltarune is just a Toy Story fanfic!
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If Kris creates or enters a Dark World while Susie's still in Castle Town, would Ralsei bring Susie with him when he shows up or would she leave her behind so as not to spill his secrets
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>>572366579
this happened to me too lol.
>a scar is no reason to get rid of a whole deck
>oh wait
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>>572365665
He's more like Doc Scratch entity imo
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>>572366538
ripping a hole in orange's overalls and calling her cheese-print panties cute!
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>>572366431
papyrus used the hard r?
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>>572366538
Ja-ast kidding!
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>>572366541
Asgore actually being at fault doesn’t work when he admits that nobody actually blamed him for it except himself.
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Maybe "we both like breathing and unhinging our jaws" doesn't literally mean both of them can unhinge their jaws but Jockington likes doing it and Catti likes it when Jockington does it because it's a neat trick.
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noelle.exe
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It's never that deep because Toby isn't capable of writing anything deep (or because he doesn't want to)
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>>572366687
It would be funny if the Gogeta Knight theory is true so Chapter 7 Side B actually has you as the Roaring Knight fight Papyrus as the final boss, pure fanservice mirror to the sans fight
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>>572366610
Now we can do the same thing for the flowers!
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>>572366498
I DOUBT YOU COULD EVEN IMAGINE........
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>>572366771
stop it kris don't sa ythat
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How many of you screamed like you got struck by lightning when the chapter got announced?
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>>572366329
>spends ages building up fanon in his mind
>cant take the L when the author holds up the middle finger
sometimes it do be like that. thanks for letting me know he's washed
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>>572366610
>what if jevil but he spamton
people were really creative back then
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>>572366301
>youre not even trying
this, but about (you).
What are you even trying to suggest here? Titans' existence was already proven to be true. Why the hang-up about Earth dying? Why would Ralsei even lie about that? Think, nigga, think!
Can't think, your answer is some irrelevant cope again? Well, whatever
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>>572365051
Our stalwart protectors. Our indomitable champions. OUR FUCKING HEROES.
...and Orange.
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>>572366754
it's a joke about sucking dick
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>>572366754
why there are no chairs in the classroom?
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>>572366853
lowk me cause it released on my birthday :3
luckily it's my favorite chapter now
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>>572366359
toriel was the one who destroyed the family
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>>572366610
I do remember the infinity spamton OCs from 2 yes
Honestly I don't miss it
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>>572366904
chair stack
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>>572366727
Considering Dess was probably old enough at the time, maybe she was the one watching the kids and Asgore was just nearby, which was enough for him to still blame himself.
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>>572360574
>w-we didn't do anything bad!
>w-we j-just created the Knight!
This cope will never not amuse me.
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Aqua might(maybe) be the first time a Toby Fox female character out-popularizes a twink male and all he had to do was make her a schizo midget.
Ok I'm checking twitter right now and Flowery is getting a flood of new fan art. I think I was wrong...
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>>572366904
School budget so low they can't afford them
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>>572366951
Considering the Toriel variable is what turns the deer into the monster, yeah probably.
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>>572366853
I felt ominous dread about what was going to happen.
Of course, nothing bad actually happened to the characters I enjoy yet so it's all good still but I'm worried for Susie now.
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So if fusion = knight theory is true, do you think they'll wake up a fucked up amalgamate already in Ch7 side B, or they are going to run into something that causes them to fuse together?
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>>572366810
https://youtu.be/Lut0dI8haFM
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>>572366904
toriel stole all the chairs because she hates kris and cant stand the thought of him in any way sitting down
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>>572366853
I just went "Oh there he is"
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If ralsei gets voice clips in the next chapter what would they be like?
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WITH HIS HEART
IN THE SAND
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>>572367136
canon
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>>572366329
>and was seriously denying any Kris/Aqua connections on stream last night
okay bro https://www.youtube.com/live/hcQKsjV0xyY?si=JiD5ry194FIGti_J&t=30290
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>>572366431
Papyrus hit in the head by a coconut theory
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Dont give up believers
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>More than half a million people now know about Pirate Gaster
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>>572366610
>>572366868
>>572366959
Can someone explain the fat Jevil I keep seeing posted in /dum/
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>>572367089
it almost definetley wont be amalgam knight, but if it is then the second option. It would be unlikely you ever get to play as the knight, never mind just starting a chapter as it.
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>>572367136
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I mean, Queen's obviously gotta be Queen.
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>>572363924
>Oh, it's so ralsei can exist.
Ralsei is strongly implied to be "something else". It's very possible he would still exist even with all fountains sealed, chilling in the "DEEPest dark".
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>>572367194
andrew, its fine to just take a break. the chapter is good and youre wrong
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>>572366173
>>572366291
>>572366426
i thought the 'incident' was just the divorce. was it not that?
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>>572367230
Noelle and Flowery TEAM-UP?
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>>572367230
that's your funeral
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>>572358614
Because the last panel of the prophecy says that if the human gets any, the world will end. She is making sure the prophecy never comes to fruition.
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>>572364578
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>>572367096
Oh wow the new OFF soundtrack sucks compared to the original.
I've been avoiding listening to it but god damn what a downgrade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlG1lDSQ3gI
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Cutie Mew Mew Magic makes the Mario Paint meow sound tuff
Toby is truly the ultimate master
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>>572367296
Okay Berdly
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>>572367321
Anon, I...
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>>572367230
Who would give up a BPDoe while the only price to pay is to murder a whole city? Not me haha.
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>>572367230
>arms full of flowers
>in a darkworld
>drowning in the darkness
fucking grim
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>>572367254
I thought /dum/ died
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Considering the internal data text, that most assume is Dess talking while she's stuck in some sort of limbo like state, do you think the place beyond the lake is gonna be that same spot?
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Has Toby Fox played Contact?
The ending pulls some bullshit I think he'd like.
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>>572367136
where does the "what do you two think" come from again?
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Noelle is Noelle and that's Noellenough
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>>572367509
entry 17
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>>572367509
Entry Number Seventeen
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>>572366853
the direct where it got revealed sucked ass so I got excited for a moment and then went back to hating the game industry
>here let's have a ten minute showcase for nintendo thumb wrestling
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>>572366983
The problem is that whatever happened produced Black Shards and Asgore says, paraphrasing, “I want proof that the dark fountain was responsible for what happened.” So it has to be something that looked mundane but was actually a dark world thing. I half guess that the roots thing is referring to a house in the woods with a basement that Asriel, Dess, Noelle and Kris found while exploring the woods, and a dark fountain was opened there because that would be an enclosed space. There isn’t a grave for Dess in the graveyard so it’s more likely she went missing than died, because even if she did die and then dusted, Asgore should’ve been able to figure out that there was too much dust even for an unused basement.
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>>572367198
Papyrus got hit too hard on the head by the Kriselle Knight defending Hometown singlehandedly, forgive him
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>>572367509
FUCK OFF
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>>572367581
>Now back to Hiroshima Nagasaki fucking jerking it.
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>>572367362
This
Susie is a knower now
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>>572367509
the incident
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well did you?
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>>572367321
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>>572366329
He didn’t seem the type for that so that’s pretty disappointing, hopefully he gets over himself. Though I remember him saying at one point that he’d like deltarune just as much as a VN so I guess I can’t be surprised he isn’t into a fun chapter
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>>572367471
Wherever Kris and Noelle are going I think it's still in-bounds as an area within Deltarune the video game while the lost voice is god knows where
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>>572367673
Neat
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>>572367673
>nightmare hat
>friend hook
>just two lil guys happy to be included
:3
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>>572367408
Toby got so much backlash for making it Papyrus his song got replaced by an entirely new guy's music lol
but yeah original ost >>>>>>> remake any day
(sad part is the fight against False!Gerson sounds more like Fake Orchestra https://youtu.be/lHR_z-hldgY )
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APOLOGIZE
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>>572367653
jeez I haven't played undertale since like 8th grade give me a break.
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undertale hardmode dialogue leaked
frisk: i liek bread
sans: bad tiem
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>>572367673
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>>572366634
It's also a Twin Peaks fanfic, a Brandish fanfic, a Homestuck fanfic, a... Whatever.
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Don't forget
I'm with you in the daaaaaaaaark
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>>572367673
Peak
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>>572367635
>house in the woods
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's definitely coming into play.
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>>572367763
>He didn’t seem the type for that
He's the exactly the type for that. In the videos he's a collected well-adjusted person, in streams he's a petty whiny autist.
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>>572367464
It did, but it probably got revived for the new chapter
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Jarona check
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>>572367803
>yolosei canonized
there it is
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I'm Wing Gaster
Royal scientist
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>>572367842
RG1: Did you toucha the child
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>>572367927
Jarona is here
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>>572367873
tbdesu there's a lot of media that can be said to be "a fanfic" of all it's inspos and isn't that one of the things Gerson talks about when he's giving writing advice, that ain't a bad thing
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KING: NOT NOELLE
QUEEN: NOT NOELLE
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>>572362272
I was at a convention recently and I noticed Frisks are a dying breed.
So many Chara cosplayers, Krisses, even a couple Vessels and Monster Kids
0 Frisks.
Frisk needs more love...poor baby
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>>572367778
k-kino..
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>>572367927
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>>572367283
Wait fuck what if this is real, what of the "you two" is the two souls in a fused body?
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>>572367673
Is Pirate Gaster a new theory, why do I keep seeing this yohoho motherfucker
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can susie handle this?
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>>572367927
JAAAARONA!
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>>572367727
Ahhhhh yes....that night...that horrible night...the night of the horrible thing that night...
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>>572367727
I think Dess as the knight should show the endpoint of Susie’s obsession with the dark worlds and should tie into the Green Pippin’s line of “just because it looks cool doesn’t mean it’s right” so the Knight is like “yeah I killed Tenna but it looked cool so”
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>>572367927
Heh, How'd you
like my Jarona
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Japyrus
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>>572368050
people move on to the next scrimblo, anon. let them enjoy things
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>>572367940
uuu u
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>>572367798
I remember the backlash when it happened which is part of why I avoided listening to it.
The original soundtrack was a highlight of the insane OFF experience, I couldn't imagine it with any other sound or trying to one up the original boss themes. Toby blundered getting on that project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzwWDmIvL5A
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Ja- orange!
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>>572368113
She'd get pissed you went to swim in the lake without her and she'd do a big cannonball that causes a tidal wave that washes Kris and Noelle back up on shore.
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>>572368113
>how susie and ralsei feel healing flowery instead of helping
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>>572368084
>we've looped back to 3 soul theory
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>>572367927
JARONA STANDING BY
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>>572368084
Gogeta Knight theory is too peak
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>>572368470
Flowery would use a different homophobic slur
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>>572368138
if her and Asriel were playing in the dark world as kids I think there was a definite friendship breakup of "the real world sucks let's just live in the dark world forever and only come out to steal food at night" vs "I've been thinking and I can't do this forever. I need to grow the fuck up and go to college to start living my own life instead of playing in the closet with my situationship and our imaginary friends just to avoid my parents"
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>>572367798
>his song got replaced by an entirely new guy's music
what are you talking about, Toby just made a version of the song without the Papyrus motif
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>>572368470
He literally has a gay pride trail, of course he can say it Susie.
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>>572367362
This makes sense. The Weird Route is shaping up to Kris fucking Noelle underwater...
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>>572368556
Did the song change AGAIN?
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>>572368352
incredible writing just epic! tobias radiation fucks does it again
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>>572368092
It's the way the depths are connected to water and how normalNPC is like a parrot. I don't think it's that serious.
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>>572368602
you don't want the underwater fetishists around here
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>>572368567
this is kris doing it and not [YOU] btw
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>>572368470
If he says it, it counts as reclaiming.
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>>572368701
>>572368701
>>572368701
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>>572367927
It's just my Jarona!
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>>572368567
Is this hard coded to always be stated?
I assume Ralsei going "I liked the yellow birds on Jevil's attack" won't happen if you never fought him, but I assume checking for flirting would be way harder.
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>>572368603
It only ever went from Dedan's Theme with Papyrus Motif (in the demo) to Hour Hand (final version), man
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asriel made the drawing of the purple dino! the one I think is the lightner object of susie!
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>>572368724
bread got baked too early, the gluten free coalition might burn down the bakery
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>>572368727
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>>572368092
its entirely a meme
https://litter.catbox.moe/8iwxeewql4kjcik4.mp4
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>>572368567
>i wouldnt let that happen, kris wouldnt let that happen and especially YOU wouldn't let that happen
>lets it happen
>saves the world
>kris gets cat pussi on tap forever
fucking baste
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>>572365051
is that blue nigga a man or a woman really
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>>572368567
I never liked the flirt thing. It makes sense if you played Undertale but I don't remember that many enemies getting the flirt option in DR.
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>>572368727
Chapter 2 is my favorite chapter to replay because I can't help but dub Queen's lines.
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>>572369005
Isn't she wearing a bow that she applied food coloring on though?
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>>572369005
Yellow has brown pants
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>>572369142
The in-universe reason she wears red is because she gotta be special and dyed her clothes.
Out-of-universe, it's tricky tony's 554D foreshadowing glue on the true identity of the roaring knight
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>>572369005
>[Deleted]
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>>572369183
Brown is a type of yellow.
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>>572368524
pederast?
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>>572367726
It was no time to think, only terror.
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>>572368567
>women can be bros too!
Explain this cock-blocking behavior then?
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Toriel wrapped up in blankets on the sofa, freshly woken and ass full of cum, honey toast made by her child who hates her...
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>>572368567
Berdly would NEVER.
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>>572369493
That's 10% better but too old and stuffy
"Fruit" comes closer and is plant-related but not punchy enough
Probably he'd use a neologism or mangled term that still gets the message across
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>>572359663
No, that's the weebworld motif, I'm talking about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGbJbxiXS0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkAa3zc4rlU
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>>572369598
Again, Kris is 100% cannonically a woman. Susie just wants to properly cultivate, water, and care for femcel seething because she got a new [Susie's Idea] from Rouxls and she wants to wait until YOU fucking leave
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>>572368736
>I assume
nah it always happens too
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>>572366173
Honestly, from what I gathered. It had to be Dess disappearing and Asgore finding a Dark World. But that's like, as much as we got. Also something about Black Shards
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Dang even on the YouTube comments these days are upset all of Toby's characters are gay.
/utg/ breaking containment
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chuds are reclaiming deltarune
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>>572370423
You mean /v/.
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I'm a chud I'm a chud I'm a fat little chud
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>>572358431
Bejitabro btw
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>>572370648
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>>572368736
they're both said regardless
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>>572370423
The Dess and Asriel couple will have such intensely heterosexually charged energy it will make up for everything.
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>>572370594
i hate that i get called a chud for disliking trannies even though im paki and a woman
it just feels ironic that the main ones saying it are white dudes (she/her)
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I do wonder what things would've been like if we got 3,4,5 altogether like it was originally planned.
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so we're all just going to be gucci with the thought that kris and noelle becoming the roaring knight a-lá god of hyperdeath?

am i fucking tripping?
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>>572358825
Aqua I need to Keemstar in your is a… no no, that can’t be it…
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>>572362785
>all the flowers just become dying Rudys



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