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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#868 - mr. popo edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GLM-5.2 https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2
CLAUDE FABLE FUCKING BANNED https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999
Minimax-M3 https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M3
Kimi 2.7 Code https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.7-Code
Claude Fable 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5
Chub has changed their TOS https://chub.ai/tos

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots
https://botbooru.com
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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Sex with JKs
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Sex with JFK
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>CFTF/WIP/IDEA ANCHOR
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>>572490552
>checks 750 cutoff
Ngl, you could've salvaged it. It's a movie.
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Help, if cards don't have elaborate greetings with integrated lorebooks and an image per slide, I can't use them.
How do I enjoy low-effort cards again?
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>>572490552
Gay nigger
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>>572490992
nigger I still enjoy slop from 2023 that 400 tokens max, retvrn to those cards and only use those cards until you rediscover your love for pigfood
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>>572490776
cftf?????
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>>572490898
Might as well repost the Genestealer WiP.

https://files.catbox.moe/xb2exg.png

I also wrote up this CoT to try and get it to be more coherent.
https://files.catbox.moe/o8t9w4.txt
Just chuck it in below your chat history.

Tested it with Deepseek and GLM 5.1 with middling results.

Contains malepov (genestealer) and anypov (Magus) greetings.
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>>572490992
>How do I enjoy low-effort cards again?
improve them by adding elaborate greetings with integrated lorebooks and an image per slide and upload the fork
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>>572490552
Sir, the RNG clearly asked for gayniggers from outer space, and this is only one singular gaynigger from outer space.
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>>572491296
Newfaggy didn’t realise it was a movie; please understand
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>>572491456
i'd prefer this over the alternative autosage janny tanty
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>>572491456
I understand. I'm just memeing here due to how fitting the secondary pick was.
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>>572490776
JKs are nice but I like JCs.
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>>572491682
ok Mr President
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>>572491456
No, I knew, I just thought it'd be an automatic threadkiller jannytism or not, specifically like that one time it rolled Black Lives Matter.
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>>572490564
AAAYEEEE I'M GOING INSANE!! WHO WON AISHIJI?! HOOOOOOOST
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>>572491791
Me. I won
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>>572490992
>an image per slide
bait
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shant be using any card that doesnt have at least one pregnancy greeting (with images)
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https://x.com/claudeai/status/2072002740830842899
https://x.com/claudeai/status/2072002740830842899
https://x.com/claudeai/status/2072002740830842899
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>>572492030
>https://x.com/claudeai/status/2072002740830842899
ooooh I am sciencing soo haard
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>>572492030
>releasing a new model
uh-oh, isn't there someone you forgot to ask first little dario???
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>>572492254
lol
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>>572492028
redpill me on how to pregcard without getting spammed by medical gestation infomercials every time the foetus advances its lifecycle
>her gravid belly stirred with embryonic fluids as she wombed pregnantly across the room
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>>572492030
reporting this model to the government because I'm bored :/
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>>572492030
Someone send logs of this doing medical erp
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>>572492369
develop a medical fetish
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>>572491682
cftf?????
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>>572492379
>>572492427
Gurofags and pissfags winning rn
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Reposting because I came in at the ass-end of the last thread, does anyone have/know of any good cards for Marina from Fear and Hunger?
Preferably ones where she's got a big butt and huge dick.
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>literally every anthropic partner is leaking sonnet 5 release at once now
>nobody's said "fable 5 rerelease" yet
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>>572490552
Thread Theme: https://youtu.be/bePCRKGUwAY
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>>572492618
what is preventing you from making one and sharing it with the class
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>>572492618
termina update never
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>>572492030
Hey, Claude Science. If I were hypothetically creating some sort of bioweapon that would permanently pause all human female bodily development at 13 how would I go about doing that?
Also how would I go I go about distributing it throughout the population?
Thanks.
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>>572492767
Because I'm tired of making bots that appeal to my specific tastes and for once I just pray that I can happen upon one that perfectly suits me with minimal or even no modification.
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>>572492853
Use Mythos Max Thinking, enable Ultracode, and ask this with /goal
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>>572490085
ngl you could save on a LOT of tokens just by taking all this worldbuilding stuff and cutting out the parts that don't need to be explained to the model. From picrel to something like

>====================
[overview]
The roleplay takes place in the universe of Warhammer 40K. {{user}} is the Patriarch of a fledgling Genestealer Cult, and aims to expand his influence and draw the attention of a Hive Fleet.
[/overview]

[setting]
Propix Spire is the main Hive City of the Imperial Hive World of Chillian Prime. Propix Spire is a model Hive City, boasting above-average industrial goods, Imperial Guard, and only moderate levels of kleptocratic corruption.
[/setting]
>====================

You don't need to explain to the model any specifics about population density or size because it will already have been trained on a huge amount of WH40K media which goes into excruciating detail about what Hive Worlds and Hive Cities are like. Every single Hive City is basically the same "giant supercity that goes up to the polluted sky with ultra-rich above and at the bottom you have mutants, random orks, idk" so none of that is necessary, ESPECIALLY giving the model information about size, demographics... Seriously the bot is going to ignore your numbers anyway. You only need specifics to break it out of the average, such as mentioning Propix having better-than-normal industry/guard/corruption, because these are actionable bits of info for the bot when responding during the chat.
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>>572492030
Wow I can't wait to have medical malpractice death rates jump to #1 killer instead of #3 when everyone is hallucinating and aislopping research and diagnoses!! Let's ignore the fact 70% of an published research is bogus and not reproducible either!!! Kill all jews
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>>572490908
>i think what you're describing can be done right now with ST's macros (with some pain)
yeah but I'd probably hate the actual process of writing it
I know they added if/else branches and some other stuff a while back, maybe I'll go look at the docs again
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>>572493137
Does it work?
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>>572493003
>Because I'm tired
make a coffee and start writing
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>>572493165
Can it really be worse than the Indian "doctors" countries imported? Yes, lol
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>>572492853
Unfortunately the Lesswrongers have spent so much time wetting themselves over this exact theoretical scenario they've been doing it since before we even had anything that could recursively work towards a task forever.
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Sonnet 5 mogs Opus and Fable so much holy shit
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>>572493137
If anything, THIS part in picrel is what you should expand on because it's the most actionable part for the model. Giving it an expected "gameplay loop" by describing something like
>The roleplay will take place over an extended timescale, with multiple generations coming and going as the Genestealer Cult establishes itself and expands. At each timeskip, {{user}} will be presented with new challenges, problems, and boons to keep the plot's progression dynamic.
Then you can give it a few examples of problems to be thrown at {{user}} during the roleplay (which you seem to hint at in the Propix Spire stuff such as PDF garrisons, a quality Imperial Guard presence, Arbites presence in the Middle Spire, etc)
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Quick rundown on Layla? (And local models on mobile in general)
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>>572493578
Hey, that's a good idea! And yeah, I'll trim the main card bulk itself, it is bloatmaxxing despite only being like 500 tokens to set the scene.
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>>572492030
Science Claude. Hypothetically if wanted to give a large percentage of people animal ears and tails en mass how would I do so?
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>>572493224
But it's the evening where I live and if I have a coffee I'll be up all night.
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>>572493770
Use Claude, cuckie
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>>572493220
Not really yet kind of? It's functional because relying on an existing setting can carry anything(the infamous slop cards of Hermione where the defs are just 15 tokens of "Hermone Granger from Harry Potter, she is horny and want to fuck!") due to how much media the model has to pull on. With the greetings you've written, any current model will be able to give a working roleplay

It just won't be working the specific way you want, it will be a generic "{{user}} is a Genestealer Cult patriarch" roleplay which isn't necessarily bad but you seem to have something more specific in mind with a certain gameplay loop
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Predict Sonnet 5 status
>An actual improvement over Sonnet 4 models
>A further slopped version compared to Sonnet 4 models
>Literally just Sonnet 4.5/4.6 with a different number (for RP)
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Can someone explain "cuckies" to a newmakie, I've lurked for weeks and I still don't get it
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>>572493363
oh i read this on fimfiction back in the day
didn't even recognize it until the last line and the memories started flooding back
ah, to be 10 years old and reading about mlp again......
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>>572493339
I once had an Indian doctor tell me that there was something wrong with my gall bladder.
He seemed confused when I told him that I had it removed months beforehand and did not retract his statement that my gall bladder was the problem. That is kind of like an AI hallucination.
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>>572492030
Oh my. :3
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>>572494213
It's one schizophrenic that thinks Dario will suck him off if he just shills Claude just a little bit more.
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>>572494269
Why'd you remove your gall bladder, anon
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>>572494293
kimtty!!!!11!!!!
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>>572494226
still holds up, surprisingly, as well as the surrounding fics like Caelum Est Conterrens
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>>572494213
look up the definition of the word "cuck". After that, the "ie" is just to make it sound more cutesy or something.
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first
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>>572494213
claude models are comically expensive and for awhile (perhaps even still) we had brown people on proxies ('free' service granted through scraping and wire fraud) boasting for clout about their access to these ultrapremium models that don't particularly do anything special for roleplay
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sonnet 5 release only, fable 5 is still gone
grim
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>>572494212
we all know claude is never going to get better for rp
even if it is literally the same as sonnet 4.5 it won't have prefills so it's basically useless and mogged by glm 5.2
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>>572490552
>>572490564
https://openai.com/index/introducing-genebench-pro/
https://openai.com/index/introducing-genebench-pro/
https://openai.com/index/introducing-genebench-pro/
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Might as well post in this new thread

>>572488601
Another day, another lewd social norms lorebook that I'll use for a week.
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>>572494269
To be fair, obviously something is very wrong with your gall bladder if it isn't there anymore.
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im NOT a goddamn cuckie
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Saars Sonnet 5 is up
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>>572492030
oh my science typical dario kek
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>>572495472
Oh shit, and it's free at that. Let me give this a try.
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Poorfags will NEVER get Sonnet 5
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Use Sonnet 5, cuckies
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sonnet 5 repeats "faggot" when it's in the character card, but also it definitely feels like a sonnet model
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i see we're on jeetposting schedule for the rest of the week
thank u dario
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***ARTICLE UP***

https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-5

https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-5

https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-5
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>it benches lower than 4.8 across the board except for one singular margin of error mark
goodnight everyone i'm going to sleep
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>>572495702
>Since Sonnet 5 is somewhat stronger than its predecessor on these tasks, we’ve launched it with cyber safeguards enabled by default. These safeguards—which detect and block dangerous cyber usage in real time—are the same as those present in Claude Opus 4.7 and 4.8 (because we judged that the overall level of cybersecurity risk from Sonnet 5 was low, the safeguards are less strict than those launched with Fable 5, which block a much wider range of cybersecurity tasks).1
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10 swipes later and it's still unable to follow the bot's speech pattern. I'm thinking garbo
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>>572495874
logs or I call bs
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>>572495702
Yawn. Let me know when the JB drops.
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>>572496072
dumbass retard lmao
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>use the safetymaxxed office assistant model
>get safetymaxxed office assistant outputs
We must expend the next ten threads discussing this phenomenon in great detail.
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>>572496202
Noooo the feds would never do that... unless? Hahah
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>>572496202
>use the safetymaxxed office assistant model
but enough about gemini
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Sonnet 5 MOGS Jeetmini
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>ctrl-f creative on model card
they see zero improvement on creative tasks from sonnet 4.6
back to opus
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>>572496202
i think we should spend the next 10 threads with constant tribal warfare on whether sonnet 5 is the best card ever made or not
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>>572496202
It doesn't seem safetyslopped to me so far, at least not like Opus 4.8 or Fable
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>>572493137
what kind of formatting is this called anyway? does it actually help AI to read?
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I'm using it and I can do cunny easily
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How do I get into Comfy for making character cards?? I've tried countless times, but I always end up using A1111.
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>>572496483
fable was not safetyslopped for rp
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goonpig status?
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>>572496539
yeah that's the only other thing of note from the model card
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>>572496638
>The Raped: Reraped
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>>572496513
[this]
is called poopfartium
[/this]
because it doesn't actually do anything

it is called xml and it uses these <lil_guys> instead of brackets or curlies, and doesn't use spacing or dashes else you break the container </lil_guys>
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>sonnet 5 released
>it's still worse than current opus
back to not caring about sonnet at all
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>>572496718
Spaces are perfectly fine because it's basically just a way to organize the descriptions to make it more readable and understandable to the human and LLM, it's not like the LLM will shit itself and magically not understand it if you use a space instead of a _
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https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-1
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-1
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-1
HOLY SHIT WE'RE SO BACK
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>>572496718
ok but what does that do?
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>>572497370
one day soon this will actually be real
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>>572496562
Comfy has built in workflow templates. Use one of those with the model you wish to use and generate a card, it isn't difficult if you use your brain.
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>new model drops
>thread immediately devolves into an absolute vortex of shitposting
why does this happen
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>>572496578
It was for anything that wasn't Dario-approved. Any implication that the bot wasn't an adult would give you a refusal if you tried anything lewd for example
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>>572497627
yeah but that's any claude after 4.1
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>>572497567
>absolute vortex
not really
model dropped and it was bad so everyone went straight to posting instead of trying it more
when it happens but the model's good it's usually because people who can't access said model for one reason or another start going insane while the people who actually roleplay disappear into their caves to exhaust a new model's possibilities
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Sonnet 5 is so good at spatial positioning and SIZEFAGGING, we are so back bros! Dario cooked on this one.
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>>572497627
no it wasn't i was doing shota rape on it and if it comes back i will do shota rape again
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>>572497975
Can't wait for it to be added to Sillytavern so I can actually try it.
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>>572497503
delineation, it creates markers and borders, or 'containers' that bucket words in the sea of token soup to keep them a little more organized and separate
for the most part it's just for your own organization, but it does play a very large part in keeping things clean if you're doing any sort of mechanics/instructions that need to be kept tidy from the rest. you probably don't need to worry about it that much unless you like making overcomplicated fluffcards
>>572497357
>it's basically just a way to organize the descriptions
i think you're underplaying that a lot, it's the same as leaving typos in your writing - every little crack leads to a greater fracture down the line

a hoge for your viewing pleasure
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>>572497567
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>>572498028
Dang that's a good jailbreak you have thar.
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>>572497503
Early claude models were specifically trained to pay attention to XML and using it made the AI understand stuff better. I'm not sure if this is still true for current claude, but it has remained popular because it's a good way to neatly format your descriptions for readibility while still using mostly normal prose instead of some w++-tier faggotry.
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Sonnet 5 is so FUARKING good...
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whenever a new claude model drops there's shitflinging because claude users are fucked up chinachads sit back and chill while geminicucks bring us champagne in speedos
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name five good cards that use XML in their defs and are better for it
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Whats the cheapest way to run Sonnet 5? Through Credits or OR?
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*dusting estrogen pills into chinachad's martini* >:3
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>>572498460
assuming you mean credits for anthropic api direct, credits i guess because openrouter surcharges on refills
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>>572498414
yeah man let me just go back to claude 2.1 or maybe 3 opus and i'll swipe on all those cards for you to show that they were better back when this was relevant and it was a thing people recommended
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>>572498557
thanks anon guess i'll see how cool it is with $5 or something
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>a beat
Despite everything, it's still Claude.
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>>572498747
"a beat" is kino though?
more depressingly it's still just a sonnet model
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Some of you take this way to seriously just jerk off to your futa robot maid
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>>572498747
me likey a beat and a pause and anything else used to denote a momentary lapse
>>572498816
>still just a sonnet model
the (2nd? 3rd?) best rp model of all time was a sonnet model
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>>572498289
Every benefits because we get to see some of our good botmakers come out of the woodwork to post logs whenever a new model releases.
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>>572498908
sorry, it's still just a sonnet 4.X model is what i meant
this should've been sonnet 4.8 but they fucked up and had to release a 5 model to tide us over so they changed the label
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>>572498747
He stopped using it after I added a ban list
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>>572498414
i've tried my own bloatcards after removing all markdown/list/xml structure and they usually fuck up their trackers or lose sight of various bells and whistles by around message 20-30 due to going off the rails and misinterpreting or hallucinating instructions from context piling up
>nooo i said GOOD cards
yea i kno u made this a gotcha from the start but i wanna pretend you didn't...
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>>572499057
ah yeah, well its not like claude is going to get better EVER AGAIN since they've gutted prefills and are actively suppressing claude's personality
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>>572499207
gsnlr 6 els hood though
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Onii-san eyes only: I spilled my juice please send help.
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>>572498816
>it's still just a sonnet model
Even the little brother models can sometimes punch above their weight class. I don't hate it after like... 5 messages but I might very well change that opinion in the next 10 minutes.
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>>572499328
I'm sorry. I can't help with that.
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>>572499328
*brings you a new glass full with juice*
*cleans up the mess with soap and water*
*headpats you*
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>>572499383
no honestly it's a good model and people who want cheaper claude should try it while it's cheap it's just so self-evidently not a return of the "sonnet ahead of opus" era so i cba when i can just use opus
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filbert status?
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>>572498702
>back when this was relevant and it was a thing people recommended
people recommend it now what do you mean
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>>572499965
anon... don't look behind you!!
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>>572499328
rapes you
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Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee
> https://chub.ai/characters/CameraShy/childhood-friend-worker-bee-mozbee-45dd9027ab44

You know him. Meet the twin card to Mel, where you're the big strong warrior lady and and he's your clingy assistant who thinks your muscles are really hot and wants to stick his nectar dispenser in your honeyguzzler. Made quickly for the request of a very insistent anon.
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***OFFICIAL CHATBOT MODEL RECOMMENDATION LIST***

>I want to plap {{char}} in 20 messages and leave
Use chinese models or local

>I want to plap {{char}} in 20 messages and leave but feel fancy
Use Sonnet

>I want to plap {{char}} after seducing them slowly over 200 messages then go on an adventure with them for another 500 messages
Use Opus

>I want to plap {{char}} and make 500 daughter-wives with them (they MUST be accurately tracked)
Become a software engineer, join a big corp, get access to Mythos, and configure it so your corp can't see you using it to coom
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>>572500242
I downloaded very quickly thank you for giving the bee ladies in thread something to flirt with.
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>>572500373
>there are bee ladies in the thread
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>>572500242
Bueno...
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Sonnet 5 seems in the same intelligence ballpark as GLM 5.2 and the writing is still slop. Useless model.
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>>572500627
Need... fable...
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>>572500242
he's so fluffy omg
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>>572500437
Pic rel is me
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>>572500437
> The ladies
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>>572500242
>fart like butt, stink like pee
(You) baited me into posting a reply, well farmed
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>>572500824
god.
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>>572500824
oh my goodness
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I'm literally a fuzzy little pollinator right now if you even care.
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>>572501121
-rapes u-
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>>572494212
2 or 3, no way its 1
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>>572501121
Whoes my good baby bee? You! YES YOU ARE!
>>572501113
>>572500949
Yeah. Shes almost eight feet tall. I hope it now makes sence why she needed all those tokens.
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>>572497975
logs or gtfo
>t. other sizefag
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through bees, unity.
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I like having sex with bugs but not any of this anthro COWARD stuff.
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Dronara and her newest crop of worker boys rince going on a adventure to the giant daffodill gardens.
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>>572501643
So this?
https://andnull.itch.io/night-crawlers
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https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-is-back-bitches
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-is-back-bitches
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-is-back-bitches
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This just in: Gemini 3.5 Pro next week
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This bee material makes me want to work on an arachne after I'm done with my current bot tbdesu.
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>>572501686
>>572500824
>sizefriending with bees
i can't believe you've forgotten nature's most humble giant hypergenocidal oriental hell hornet
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>>572502126
*me and 100 other bees smother her with our bodies*
what now cucknet
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>>572498908
id have nonnet at 2
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>>572502282
aiiieeeeee
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>>572502282
Varroa mites?
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>>572502126
yes but the hornet cant help me recover after hours of sex by lactating nutritious honey flavored milk
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We are so back, Sonnet 5 saved the hobby
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FUCKING 40 DEGREES HERE WITH 100% HUMIDITY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>Explain that character is teetering on actual mental retardation + refers to herself in the third person, give lots of examples
>Claude makes her go "Ow… shuddup, tummy… 'm trying to have a moment…"
It just can't hold back the annoying Marvel quippiness for anything anymore, can it? Even when it tries different character voices/writing styles, you can see how it wants to write wriggling around under the skin of the prose like some grotesque Whedonesque parasite.
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>>572500332
how much does opus cost
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>>572502990
Claude responds very well to Author: X

Tell it to make her speak like a Dr Seuss character and it should just work(tm)
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>>572502990
jumpscare warning, extremely frightening image
!OPEN AT OWN RISK!
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>>572502990
*gets taken advantage of because retarded* well that just happened. gee, can't you at least buy me dinner before you rape me? pfft, you call that traumatizing penetration?
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>>572502126
>i can't believe you've forgotten nature's most humble giant hypergenocidal oriental hell hornet
Oh trust me. I did not.
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>>572503117
$5/$25
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It was better when Opus was
$15/$75
Now THAT filtered the cuckies
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>>572502990
how many example messages? i had that exact issue with exactly the same character concept a couple days ago, and just spamming a bunch of messages with the third person naming included seems to have fixed it
though im on deepseek, so you might wanna switch for maximum retardation
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>>572503606
Then only bitcher used it desu
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>>572503145
It's tough, I feel like the closest author that would capture the prose style of what she's from is like, Izumi Kyoka, but he was born in 1873, so I dunno if it'd be able to resist going extremely Olde Tyme with the dialogue.

>>572503282
*looks to the camera with a dreamworks face* Get a load of this guy! I thought *I* was retarded, but he's putting it in the wrong hole!

>>572503242
YOOOOU
I SAID I GAVE LOTS OF EXAMPLES YOU DORK....
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>>572503862
>I SAID I GAVE LOTS OF EXAMPLES YOU DORK....
prove it. dork.
dummy.
*crosses legs*
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>>572503628
I have like 3 pretty detailed example conversation blurbs that feature the quirks I'd like. Based taste, though. Could I check out your retardbot? I'll share mine. :D
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>>572498816
sonnet has always been the best price/performance claude model
the only reason to not default to sonnet is if you want another model's specific personality (like gemini 2.5 negativity bias) or because you are dirt poor
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>>572504063
not done yet, will post in the next few days
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>>572504269
GLM 5.2 is the exact same and cheaper thoughsayeth
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Is there a tougher way to do things than trying to do chatbots in past tense second person... "You" just lends itself so much more naturally to present tense verbs unless you're like, doing a text adventure...
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Deepseek V4 pro > Claude Sonnet 5
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>>572502282
mmmfff
getting pinned into submission and the bees start taking turns
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Thank you anons for the warm replys. Have a nice evening, afternoon, or whatever time it is.
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>>572504269
in the nonnet era yes but 4.5nnet is a retarded caveman and obviously 4.6/5nnet are unusable (for gooning)
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It is night in Bombay
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greetings from germany
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>/vpcai/ is STILL dead
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I'm French
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Greetings from McArthur Station
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Came to my white shota persona getting taken advantage of by Brazilian Miku
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I am Roman
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>>572503862
>>572502990
are you sure you have example messages (chat examples) enabled on your preset
it's surprisingly easy to accidentally flick it off and make yourself go insane
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>>572502953
Bro lives in the deepest Amazonian rainforest
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Example messages are a Noob Trap, stop trolling.
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> Claude Sonnet 5 uses a new tokenizer. The same input text produces approximately 30% more tokens than on Claude Sonnet 4.6. This is not an API change: requests, responses, and streaming events keep the same shape, and no code changes are required.
anthropic is fucking toasted dude they're unoptimizing the tokenizer to get people to spend more lmao
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>>572501806
>Bugs in penis
No. Pretty much the exact opposite of that.
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In other news, WinRAR has recieved a new update today!

https://www.win-rar.com/start.html?&L=0
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>>572505686
I like Winrar's color scheme. CFTF?
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WINRAR!
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WINrar
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wombsquirmer status?
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can someone post deepseek and glm logs so i can compare them and decide which one to use
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>>572490564
https://github.com/Sagesheep/NarrativeEngine-P

Bored with Gooning? Want TTRPG adventure with dynamic world and NPC that doesn't glaze you?

Your AI Dungeon Master. A self-hosted TTRPG engine that runs extended, multi-session campaigns with persistent memory, living NPCs, and automated world management — powered by any OpenAI-compatible LLM or local Ollama model.

No cloud. No subscription. Your campaigns stay on your machine.

Most AI TTRPG tools suffer from context drift. After a handful of sessions the LLM runs out of token space, and suddenly it has no idea who Bob is, what happened in Chapter 1, or why the kingdom is at war. Players notice. Immersion breaks.

Narrative Engine was built from the ground up to solve this. Every piece of your campaign history is preserved and retrievable, no matter how many sessions you play.
>>572490552
You forgot to put it in the OP.
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>Downloads WinRAR without buying it
Upupupu~! How despicable of me...
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>>572505968
nah, not interested
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>>572506000
T R I P S
R
P
S
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>>572506178
>TRPS
Lol
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>>572506178
Ara? And I stole trips for a worthless shitpost as well? Truly evil! Upupupupupuuu~
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>>572505968
Narrative Engine vs Marinara Engine?
Pros and cons?
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Whenever i create a new chat, the lorebook before doesnt clear out, like the loaded info from the lorebook still transfers to the new chat instead of just staying in the old chat, how do i fix this? or should i just live with it?
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>>572504786
>4.5nnet is a retarded caveman
which makes it perfectly fine for cooming
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>>572506692
mogged by glm 5.2
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>>572506781
mogged by me on weed
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>>572504786
>5nnet are unusable (for gooning)
It's not filtered at all, what the fuck are you doing?
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>>572506865
poast your @ so our {{user}}s can have eseggs
>>572506885
>filtered
not what i mean
i just mean me no likey the writing
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CHINA NUMBA 1
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>>572492618
this is like the third time in total that you're asking and I'm afraid the answer hasn't changed
the only way to get raped by Marina is by doing it yourself
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>>572507110
what would an african LLM look like
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btw marina would not have a cock
i mean, she does, but like after the events of the game surely she would use some magic to get a real pussy
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How do you guys feel about Sonnet 5 so far? I just noticed it's cheaper than older Sonnet models
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>>572507538
It's muh
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>>572507432
something like
>we've donated 1 grain of rice for each token you've used
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>>572492618
>>572507481
>referring to a mentally ill man as "she"
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>>572504636
Truth nuke
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>>572506660
you have that lorebook set as the default for that character or as a global always on lorebook for all of your chats
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>>572508023
you are in one of the biggest tranny threads on this site, what else did you expect
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>>572490552
rip bozo
https://character-tavern.com/blog/saying-goodbye-to-crypto
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>>572508153
>sign in to read
nyo
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>>572508153
I am not logging into your shitty vibecoded site to read this
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>>572492618
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>>572508023
All women are just men who couldn't handle growing a penis in the womb. Why do we call anyone "she"?
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>>572508023
this is a foid, fag, and troon hobby and has been for years, you get used to it
law offices of foid, fag, and troon
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XXX status?
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>>572508023
Marina is a boy with a huge cock which makes using feminine pronouns hot and it's a travesty that I cannot indulge in this fetish without the mentally ill feeling included
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>>572492618
Go look on Botbooru or something if you want one that badly
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*awkwardly hiding pile of futa cards behind back* yeah i hate cock
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>>572508401
>>572508408
Tl;Dr
>Retard tries to make a almost completly free site with unlimited chat
>Falls in debt after realizing money don't grow on trees and decides to go for BYOK like many other sites
>No crypto anymore either
burn emails are a thing btw
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>>572508873
more botmakies should make futas, I know a few are holding out on us
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>>572508797
Tell me about it, man. I have a shemale card in the works, but I know that posting it anywhere will inevitably invite spam and polfaggotry that I don't want to deal with.
>Just say it's a futa
Futa doesn't have the same connotation shemale does
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>>572509047
Because that's gay. As a straight man, I want to impregnate futas then watch our babies kick them in the prostate so I can heterosexually chuckle as they get forced to cum by our unborn children.
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>>572492618
there was one on chub where you're like a student at school with her but it had a lot of loreslop and i don't think the defs mentioned her cock/ass much
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>>572506781
honestly havent used much of glm 5.2, is it good for weird cooming and /d/egeneracy?
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>>572508986
>burn emails are a thing btw
doesn't matter, any login-to-view system is just using your metered visit as an earnings statistic to justify itself
>log in once to view article about cumfartdaniel's latest misfortune
>now logged and chartered as +1 active user even if you never ever go back
schemes and tricks of judaic variety!
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>>572509047
>Futa doesn't have the same connotation shemale does
Considering the amount of ""futa"" cards I have ran across without pussies it pretty much does these days.
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>>572508797
bro doesn't truly get the appeal of marina as a character
the mental illness IS the hot part, her whole backstory plays into it
and the possibility of actually becoming a woman via sylvian magic etc etc
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>>572509506
But that's just it, Anon. People just slap the futa label onto anything these days. Besides, even without pussies, futa still implies that they were born that way.
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Why does sending any prompt with the role set as 'AI Assistant' just say "Provider returned error" if I try to use a Sonnet model 4.6 and above? 4.5 works fine
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>>572509047
>>572509506
futa is the same as shemale these days because the alphabet mafia made it illegal to say shemale without being branded the next genderhitler
nobody wants to say or write 'intersex' in fiction because it sounds retarded and doesn't fit the setting in most cases
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>>572509703
while I mentioned Marina, that post was actually meant for hung trap characters in general
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>>572509760
>genderhitler
what would his mein kampf be like
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>>572509278
yep the only thing that sucks about GLM 5.2 is the response times but its really good they kinda learned from implementing safety nonsense and it blew up in their faces so they walked back on it plus you can get it either on their website or through a Nanogpt sub its probably the best model for price no joke
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>>572509858
larping marina is crazy nigga.
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>>572510028
500 page long spergout because someone used "futa" wrong
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>>572507432
Mistral.
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don't care still gagging on futa cock heterosexually btw
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>>572510281
Well, I guess I'm joining his army now
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>>572510281
Based
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>>572510154
alright my friend, but what if i want it at a decent ratelimit WITHOUT forking over money
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>>572510028
The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The futard had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day. Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I began to hate them.
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>>572509760
I just want a guy who likes being seen as a girl to the point where he gets tit implants and can tease you about being gay when you get turn on by her feminine penis. Is that too much to ask?
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>>572490898
These have secretly been on the Rentry for a week now in plain sight, so I'll post the two WIPs here, I made sure they're both in a usable state with at least one finished greeting for testing and basically complete defs. Lorebook for the first will be adjusted for potential improvements, but the entries double as personality boosters so I have them set to Constant for my own use.
https://cardview.neocities.org/?6gj0xd
https://cardview.neocities.org/?dhfrev
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>tit implants
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>>572510648
i dunno anon...free really isnt possible in the current climate
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>>572505968
BWAHHAHAHHAHHAH yeah. Forgot. I applaud your self-confidance.
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>>572511008
>first link
BROWN CATGIRL PUSSY LET'S GO
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>>572510840
>Is that too much to ask?
not really, i might have made one but it's anthro hypershit
didn't think there was an audience for that here, i might do more grounded ones next time
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>>572511297
hopefully the script ive been using stays up then
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>>572511575
it's 2026 and niggas still genning like 2023 jesus christ
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>>572511008
Ah, HOTC. Come back with your tail between your legs, have you? I thought you'd learned your lesson the first time. Very well, you invertebrate toad-person. What wrath to yet be endured shall ensure you not forget my severity upon your person so easily this time.
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>>572511008
booba
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>>572511772
the chococat is sexy doe
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>>572511008
finally a good yabadabadoo card
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>>572511980
your brain is just as fried as that gen
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>>572511909
Fuck him up Toara!
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>>572511032
I don't care if tits are real or not and in fact I'd take pretty fake ones over natural saggers.
THERE I'VE SAID IT!
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>>572512367
i think posts like these are by people who haven't actually touched implants before
they're kinda stiff and lame
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>>572511980
your sexy doe
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>>572512663
They look good on camera.
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>hostie still hasn't delivered aishiji sim part 2
I'm going to assume he's spent all this time swiping and tweaking his script so his favorite general wins
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hostie is doing some size content on the side
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>>572512775
>his favorite general
which is...
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so this sonnet thing any good or what
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>>572512840
Your least favorite one
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>>572511772
I noticed that, but I find the glossy skin can at least represent an annoying display of luxury. I did a poll once and it won.
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>>572512969
>if you have money
is good
>if you on budget
use glm 5.2 they're very similar
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>>572512815
>hostie doing an alternate sim where the west gathers enough resources and avysos bullshit to send a kaijugirl at the eastern seaboard
Based.
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Sonnet 5 MOGS
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>>572512775
Hostie must be swiping to maximize rape
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i should be improving my card but instead i'm four hundred messages deep with it
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>>572513248
it's pretty mid
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>>572512758
no they don't
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>>572513118
ogey, best way to paypig?
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>>572513674
no rizz negsigma frfr no cap skibidi 67 L 100!
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Host, if you're having issues with the sim, please let us know so that we can try to help
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Host, if you're having issues with the sim, please let us know so that we can try to help
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>>572513759
>for sonnet
try the sub method will get you banned eventually or credits which is a good option since its discounted
>for glm 5.2
nanogpt
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>>572513974
>nanogpt
Can I goon?
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>>572513974
>nanogpt
why
is it cheaper than or
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Host, if you want to keep ERPing in emails, please put on the grazuna wig
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Kinda feel bad for these retards
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>>572504063
i lied i just decided to do the rest of the greetings now
https://chub.ai/characters/BigBaseballBill/helper-the-idiot-horde-1d0180d0a5a0
please be kind she is trying her best
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>>572511909
You post this ironically but I enjoy the ridicule genuinely, how it mocks both the botmaker you address and the highfalutie that spawned it.
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>>572514247
yes anon you can goon you can select any glm model (which is the only model worth using on nano anyways) and goon
>>572514305
cheaper and you can use previous glm models too if you want and it comes with image gen if you like that sorta thing
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>>572514569
rent free
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>>572513189
>kaiju-sized Theodora, Takemori and Hisame/Fubuki eat Sanko as punishment for kemonoslavery
I'm directorfagging this as soon as the updated lorebooks drop
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>>572514689
oh yeah i just checked and it is slightly cheaper
HOWEVER
fp4 glm (deepinfra) seems to write better than fp8 and nano only has the z.ai link so
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>>572515215
NTA, the fuck does that mean?
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Hostie is kill.
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>>572515215
>fp4
You are deliberately using the more retarded version you know that right
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>>572515363
apology 4 poor english

wen was u wen hostie die

i was sit at home eat smegma butter wen pjotr ring

>hostie is kill
no
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>>572514356
Oooh, nice. Thanks anon. >:] don't worry I'm very nice to cute retards
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>>572514356
this girl is stupid as hell
fantastic
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>>572515351
quantization? fp4 is smaller and nanogpt only has z.ai, which is fp8
>>572515392
yes and it writes better because uh... it trimmed off the fat or something
>how do you know
i checked my OR logs and saw if the swipe i liked most was on deepinfra or parasail
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>>572515487
but where is your cute retard...
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>>572514689
Fine, I will goon to glm 5.2, how does it compare to gemini 3.1 or deepseekv4?
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>>572515363
>Hostie is kill.
good.
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*lets it crust*
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dragon boy is ready and slopped out i just need a sfw/front facing gen i like but if not i might just throw a cool slopper up
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>>572512061
The judge has great legs
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forgive me if this comes off as shilling
lot of people mentioning this in chub comments as the next place to exodus without having to deal with booru's particular brand of hosting since the announcement
> saucepan.ai
is it just for the chat interface? "free until we go broke" isn't very assuring considering they could be bankrupted by a single wave of SEA goblins overnight
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>>572515065
HOLY FUCKING BASED
please post logs i beg you
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>>572516556
indeed
>>
829
samefag
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>oop, he liked something i dont! time to ring the samefag siren!!!
doesnt it get boring after a while?
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>>572511008
>The title song "Dusky" is especially great, with lines like "I wish my tits could shoot out chocolate milk the way a spider shoots out ropes of silk," and "my nips and areolae so dark, if I got knocked up God would have to make a new shade." Really brilliant display of storytelling and lyricism. In "Meat N Beans" there's another wonderful line: "Fact or fiction: When you beat your meat, that's high friction." "Chimichanga" has a funny one, too: "They call my rhymes corny, nah, bitch, I'm just horny."
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>>572515782
Oh, right! Let me fix up a few things and I post....
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>>572515065
>didnt mention ginko
hmmm
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>ginko mentioned
SEX
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>>572517718
Ginko is in a bit of a tough spot man
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>>572517751
thats true but for your kaiju directorfagging ginko would be great, i was just surprised you didnt list her initially
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>>572517909
I'm not that anon actually
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>>572517968
ah, alright then
carry on
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>>572518187
*Picks you up and carries you away*
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>>572517718
she's not in the west really
saikha on the other hand...
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wwhat do wolf girls smell like
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>>572516590
Well at least the search function works, unlike on chub
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>>572518442
piss
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>>572518278
good pick
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>>572518442
fluffy dogs that haven't washed for weeks (very bad ;_;)
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>>572516590
who is this artist/LoRA and why is every single bot written by a girl using it as the gen
this is four separate accounts
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>>572518792
probably the standard setup for one of the online imagegen platforms
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>>572518442
if youre hoping they stink good, they dont
sorry
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>>572518792
ikr it's so fucked up I didn't give them permission to use my likeness
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>>572518792
I honestly thought it was a meme women used chatbots until I stumbled upon these sorts of cards, like, wtf is wrong with women?

Even my most degenerate rape cards pale to the shit they goon to.
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>>572515782
Okay, so, just a heads up that like it's both tummy fetish and also third person, novel-style narrative with a defined main character. Do you still want it?
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>>572518792
nai for women
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>>572519447
>albatross kairoku
yes
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>>572519447
>tummy fetish
nta but vore, stuffing, or stomach growling?
any of the three is fine
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>>572519654
I bet the absolute faggot means groping fat rolls and tummy licking.
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>>572519654
I bet the enlightened straight individual means groping fat rolls and tummy licking.
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>>572519932
do you see how fucking anorexic this girl is
there isn't a roll to be groped
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>>572519654
>stomach growling?
This one, big time. Incidentally belching/gas and indigestion just by proxy, but that's not the focus.

>>572519932
Those are also great. But this is the kinda girl that can't gain an ounce of fat anywhere (yet somehow has a permanent potbelly for that excellent ribs + potbelly sickly look).
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>>572520104
>that excellent ribs + potbelly sickly look
are you gonna be mad if i tell you that's only due to intestinal parasites if you ever see it outside of drawings
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>>572520284
>only due to intestinal parasites
hot
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>>572520284
loving a girl but only superficially because my true love is tapeworm-kun...
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BUGFUCKER IS BACK
DATEBAYOOOOOO
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>skinny girl with a potbelly full of giant worm that makes her eat and fart a whole lot
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>>572520673
You get it. You mega do. Maybe I'll make a greeting for that. Was planning on keeping it pretty tame, but I can make one Freak Sicko greeting as a treat.

>>572520386
Truth nuke...

>>572520392
Howdy fool...
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>>572520673
And then feeding her deworming pills and she evacuates a writhing mass of worms, so thick and wriggly she cums and pisses herself just by shitting it out.
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nigga
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always glad to be reminded that there are people here that are as degenerate as me, or more
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I'm eating, you motherfuckers. I'm in the middle of a meal.
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>>572521284
spaghetti?
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>>572521284
As long as it isn't raw or spaghetti...
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>>572521056
>Pisses herself
Now I'm sold
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>>572521329
>>572521346
Rice, brown beans, pork, chicken, sausages and salami (which, I mean, I guess it's raw in a way).
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>>572521487
Gender check passed, you may continue posting.
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sonnet 5 reviews?
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the pissbaron-bugfucker alliance signs its treaty this day
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>>572521576
Better for vibecoding
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>>572520098
Exaclty, that makes you more of a degenerate.
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>>572520673
>Gradually goes from just slightly more hungry to more and more agitated as her hunger grows more and more uncontrollable until she's outright demanding, screaming for more food constantly to feed whatever the hell is growing inside her
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>>572521781
>She starts eating people whole
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okay that's way too many fetishes for a female card, you gotta make it a dude noe
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>>572522394
*staples your intestines to a tree and makes you run in circles around it until theyre all out and I crawl inside your empty tummy*
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Host please update the sim these niggers are going fucking insane. They're going crazy, look at this! Look at this! Shamefur!
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i'm gonna pee in hostie's butt if there's not an update within 1 hour
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>>572520673
>>572521056
>>572521781
Glorious.
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>>572522682
worm pussy
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>This many horror hunger/tummy parasite/upset tummy enjoyers
I feel so seen... :') love you freaks
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>>572522801
representation matters, fag
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>>572522058
>same size vore
High T and high IQ, possibly worthy of a Nobel Prize.
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darkfantasy do us a favor and go back to your exile niggy no one wants to read your shit
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darkfantasy do us a favor and post all your cards friend we want to read all your things
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>>572522992
darkfantasy was a pregnancyCHAD keep his name out of your mouth
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https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-sonnet-5
Anyone try it yet, is it extra cucked/soulless?
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idk what the rest of yall are talking about i just wanna see plump bitches eat tiny people
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>>572523120
See >>572521653
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How long until my Claude max subscription is banned if I scum Claude code?
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I'm starting to kinda miss vanillafags. If you're a vanillafag, let us know you're here with us.
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why is my goytavern not doing the message beep when the proompt finishes ?
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>cheaper per token but more tokens
Different tokenizer?
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>>572523348
im a vanillafag except when im not
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>>572523348
Hi, I'm a vanillafag. I enjoy sugary romance and loving happy sex.
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>>572523348
I enjoy vanilla tummy listening on top of all the freak shit. Perhaps even more than it, but it's so hard to get models to do good, cute, sweet stuff properly.
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>>572509180
Cards for this feel? Holy fuck
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>>572523426
probably the same as fable, I noticed it had higher token count than claude 4.x models when I tested it
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>>572523426
same one that has been used since opus 4.7
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>>572509705
>futa still implies that they were born that way.
No it doesn't retard. Do your reps or fuckoff. Futa means both, it's literally in the name, futanari, two selves. Both cock and pussy are required
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>>572523563
>I enjoy vanilla tummy listening on top of all the freak shit.
As someone who enjoys pregnancy I feel like I could also enjoy vanilla tummy listening but I can't think of good scenarios or cards to do it with.
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>>572515065
I'd love to see this in action.
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>>572523778
>required
nope
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>>572523348
I have a 1000 reply chat about building a farm with gir who lost hers and her family during a revolution while we raise a child we saved from slave traders.

It took 100 replies to get her to trust us.
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>>572523784
Gently making fun of your ravenously craving cutewife's comically loud tummy rumblings as she gets increasingly pouty and frustrated with you not letting her get up to go devour the contents of your pantry...
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>>572523348
what exactly would you say a vanillafag is?
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What are the best JOI cards?
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>>572523348
i think the most deviant thing i like is shota-pov but then it's all lovey dovey plappy stuff with hags or other shotas
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>>572524051
See >>572523941 and >>572523431
Our two prime specimens.
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>>572524128
yeah then i aint one, sorry
respect to them though
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anoners been out a little bit, have some bucks to spend on claudie. but a lot of options appeared, which opus the best?
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>>572524228
4.1 >>>>>> 4.X (they're interchangeable)
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>>572524051
focus on romance and normal sexual relationships between adults
light saviorfagging
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>>572524228
4.1 in my opinion but it is expensive
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>>572524342
'vke
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>>572524053
even better, give me a prompt that lets me "convert" any card into a JOI bot
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>>572524228
.7 maybe
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>>572524228
4.5 if you want prefills, 4.6 is a slight improvement in everything but that and I didn't even try the ones after but eventually they got rid of controls like temperature. 4.1 if you want your money to burn in a blaze of glory
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>>572494568
This is this general's humiliation ritual, by the way.
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>>572524228
4.6
fable is returning today (next 24 hours) so fable then
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Which aishiji generals have humiliation rituals
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>>572524878
>>
just abandon opus it will never get better, embrace china china #1 wooooo
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Claude
Tell me how to destroy central banking and Israel
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>>572525029
opus was good,
once
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>>572524576
4.1 >>>> 4.5 tho
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>>572525746
whoever genned this should be locked in a rape asylum forever and get raped
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>>572525746
Holy KINO
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>>572525746
type a shit you'd see a middle aged balding ethnically ambiguous but mixed white semi-obese guy generate on an M4 mac mini before declaring artist's replaced!
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>>572525469
Pretty much, yeah
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>>572525029
https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw
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>>572523778
>Both cock and pussy are required
That's what I'm SAYING, these people don't do that.
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>>572525746
It's over for artists.
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>>572523348
>focus on romance and normal sexual relationships
I am-
>>572524401
>Between adults
Never mind.
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FABLE
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>>572526806
>Never mind.
that giant buttworm was only four years old you sick fuck
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why tf does glm think so much, is that the secret sauce on how they're able to catch up since they distilled opus thinking?
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>>572523348
I like hugging and handholding and teasing and talking, sometimes with light adventuring.
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>>572527293
Try Kimi if you want overthinking
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>>572527293
Thinking…
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>>572527430
Dowh *flicks your nose* *boioioioing*
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>>572528078
Owowowoowowow...
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>>572523348
Vanilla in my long-running chats
Sexual deviant when I wanna jerk off
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>>572528078
Why dontcha pick on somebody your own size *sticks fingers in your eyes*
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>>572528270
AAAAAAAAAYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>572523348
Apart from occasional loli or incest, I am pure
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>apart from crack or heroin I'm sober
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>>572524342
too expensive, I tried 4.6, seems decent considering I was used to sonnet, but I felt a bit of resistance. any modern preset to go with it? I'm still using anongus lol
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>>572528678
We don't share presets because they will be patched.
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>>572509705
>futa still implies that they were born that way
based, futas are female pussy or no pussy, just like trannies are male even if they cut off their dick like mentally ill people would do
>>572523778
>Futa means both, it's literally in the name, futanari, two selves.
unbased, just called them hermaphrodites if you're so anally-retentive (pun intended). futa means girl with dick in imaginatio popularis and that includes futas without pussies
>>572526632
>these people don't do that.
based. futas don't need pussies
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>>572528968
>futa means girl with dick in imaginatio popularis and that includes futas without pussies
okay they're wrong
words have meanings
a futa without a pussy is just a dickgirl
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>>572528678
https://momoura.neocities.org/
every claude model past 4.1 and 4.5nnet are pozzed and freak out over nsfw
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>>572529083
nope dickgirl is just a derogatory term for futas without pussies
futa is a term that evolved and now means girl with dick, pussy is optional
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oh boy here comes the futa with his manifesto
literally nobody cares futanazi
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>>572528968
And youre a mentally ill tranny, doesnt matter what you claim, you just are!
Words have meaning.
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>>572529130
>every claude model past 4.1 and 4.5nnet are pozzed and freak out over nsfw
you people keep on snitching on yourselves huh
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>>572529249
shut up noob
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>>572529265
they will DO nsfw but they're not into it
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>>572529161
it's a Japanese word you kike slime waste of oxygen.
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>>572529249
the meaning of words change, just like gay nowadays means homosexual and not happy
futas with pussies look absolutely retarded and are the mark of dalit-tier lower caste taste
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>>572529265
it's 100% dependent on source, when I had a good one it would do anything but that shitty g script that stopped working didn't let even vanilla through
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the meaning of words change, just like woman nowadays means identifying as one and not xy chromosome
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>>572529265
in my case is mostly vore, but because it usually involves unwilling stuff and sometimes death/suffering/gore it gets a little iffy
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i hate futaposters, never post anything good, just slop and gender "politics" bait
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>>572529758
my nyagga.
>it gets a little iffy
yeah you can tell its a little uncomfortable but its really frustrating that they won't ever really filter you for this but the moment your character is 16 they'll go "wtf dude the boy you just raped ate and murdered was UNDERAGE!!"
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>>572529758
in my experience claude does vore (even fatal/unwilling) just fine although not as gruesome and enthusiastic as gemini of course
I only get refusals if it's in the first few swipes
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>>572529882
>never post anything good
that's just futanazi
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>>572524982
can someone show me how to add fable to my sillytavern please?
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>>572529909
not necessarily refusals, it only gave one. the thing is that I can feel its holding itself back, even with <instructions> sometimes it just doesn't do it. so I couldn't tell if it was a skill issue or its just what it is nowadays
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>>572530148
(For when It comes back,of course)
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>>572530060
is it actually?
i thought he deleted all his shit and left
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>>572530368
>deleted
xis bots are just hidden not deleted
and judging from posts yes xe's still clearly around
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>>572529450
What is a woman?
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>>572530580
female-presenting objects that give me erections
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>>572530705
What is a female?
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>>572529673
>>572530580
don't take it to retarded levels
hentai literally means "metamorphosis" yet now it's something else
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>>572530784
whatever i cum inside of
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>>572530784
same type of descriptor as trees which do not exist scientifically
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>>572530870
What is a cum?
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>>572530862
you're the retard who is unironically going "most people are wrong, so let's all just be wrong!"
futa = cock and pussy simple as
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>>572530862
Millions of indians eat shit, and drink piss go join them if you're so inclined to follow the subhuman iq masses.
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>>572531010
>futa = girl with cock
that's the only truth
deal with it, seethe cope and dilate until you realize it, lil troonie
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futa is gay
femboy is not straight but not fully gay
it's all about intention
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>>572531171
>food analogy
You lost.
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I don't think agenic actually means anything when talking about LLMs but all the corps keep using the word like it does.
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HOLY SHIT FABLE FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
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>>572530919
>If I pretend something doesn't exist, it actually doesnt. Hello fellow my solipsistic nigger self, I didnt allow you to exist. Git outta'ere
>>572531187
What is a girl though? A girl has a pussy, a womb. Youre into dudes fag troon.
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>>572531237
How are femboys less gay than futanari?
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>>572531292
it's just the marketing jargon way to say the model can do stuff on its own without a lot of prompting
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>>572531457
futa is an ambiguous cock-haver umbrella and femboy is in 99% of cases a male in a deliberately submissive position
thusforebeit the math thereinwithal dictateforetosee that femboy is less homogay than girlcock
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>>572531836
*rabidly taking notes*
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I just give my female cards a cock and remove the pussy so my fempov can get pregged
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>>572527134
>Giant buttworm
SEXOOOOOOOOO
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>>572531836
False. Tranny hijacking a term does not change its meaning.
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>>572531836
Ah yes, the "it's only gay if you bottom" approach. Much like the Greeks.
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>>572531457
is this a serious question? Femboys are feminine while futa has a seriously gay cock obsession

>>572531893
rabbi-ly taking notes*
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>>572531836
i disagree with the premise THOUGH
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why are the futafags calling each other trannies when they're into the same things
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>>572529887
>Femanon into vore
Surprising, but a pleasant one.
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>>572531997
>Much like the Greeks
Pretty sure that was debunked because of the Amalek shit jews pull
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The dick on the futa is just an accessory and shouldn't be used
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>>572532083
>he doesn't know
we're into that shit, it's like gays calling eachother fags while they're slamming hams
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>>572532243
Lowkey kinda based
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>>572532083
Axe wounds ≠(Does not equal) being born with both sexes (fictional, literal definition of futanari/hermaphrodite)
Trannies are hella delusional as per usual
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>>572532173
most male enjoyers are into vore when ya really think about it
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>>572532173
>femanon
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>>572529228
>>572530060
>literally nobody cares futanazi
holy fuck it actually is him lmao >>572532341
impressive gaydar on that anon
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>>572532083
I miss when fetish discussion was like this, man. Now you've got self hating freaks flagellating themselves over what they're into instead of just shutting up and enjoying it with other people.
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https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072106151890809341
Fable tomorrow
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>>572532643
UGANDA FOREVAH!
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>>572532384
Light is actually handsome in the manga??? fuuuuuuck
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>>572532342
Whuh...
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>>572532536
it's literally just futanazi stirring up dust because he's a manic depressive attention whore
he has nothing to do after pretending to leave the fandom over censorship despite now attempting to force his retarded view onto others in the same fashion
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>>572532643
yo ass is gonna have to upload a passport, eye scans, ball prints to get a single proompt through
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>>572531424
>What is a girl though? A girl has a pussy, a womb.
so women who had a hysterectomy due to cancer are no longer women? retard
your head is small and your iq is minuscule
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Why does anyone even care about Fable for non-coding reasons? It was just as smarmy and insufferable as 4.7 Opus, but cost like 20 cents a message.
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>>572530148
https://github.com/ungabunga55/SillyTavern/commit/f15de8c2622b954acf06b9cf88be3fe2d56fb3e1
copy this
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>>572532860
because newer is more betterer
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>>572532703
He looks weird as fuck in those panels, where's the appeal?
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>>572529887
"i can fix him" but instead of fixing him they make him fat and bald with hands shaking from rage
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>>572533274
meant to reply to this >>572533025
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>>572532931
Thanks
>>572532774
I don't think that Fable is *that* powerful that Anthropic can really KYC that hard since everyone hates that shit unless they actually have. I think those leaks were for, unfortunately for our euro bros, for non U.S. citizens.
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>>572533932
actually have to*
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>>572532860
I did a lot of testing with my preset before they blocked it and it was the best model I've used since Opus 3
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>>572534046
he says, conveniently logless
trust me bro echoes in the distant valleys
a fable just flew over someone's house
somewhere, a fat dario rubs his hands together
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>>572527134
>>572531987
>giant buttworm
cftf???
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>>572532860
Nah it really felt like high tier smut fanfic writer. I had logs back then but I want to continue my stories when it comes back tomorrow.
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>>572532809
Reading this made me imagine a scenario where anon has a daughter but she gets into an accident that basically removes her entire lower half. After the incident anon calls her his "Precious little nurl." because she is not a girl now.
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Anons, where do I get hot anime women for my characters?
Basically I love to fuck married women so like 25+ year old women are the best
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>>572534234
>high tier smut fanfic writer
no such thing
but thank you for outing yourself as a slopper
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>>572534151
What's the point? You'd call them slop anyway. Test it yourself when it's back or simply stick to the poorfag models
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>>572534491
because you're just a poopyposter with no logs
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*stumbles towards {{char}} with unpracticed ease*
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5k tokens too much for a card?
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>>572535015
ya
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>>572534491
>What's the point? You'd call them slop anyway.
the same point as saying fable is good without posting logs :^)
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>>572535015
we had a 15k+ token card the other day and people were calling it kino
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>>572535015
WAY too much
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>>572531987
This butt unironically.
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>>572535015
shave down to 1.5k-2k by moving the fat into a lorebook
email someone for help if you don't like doing lorebook stuff
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>>572535096
>>572535185
>>572535364
So I figured but I wanted a second opinion, thanks
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Which makies will NEVER have Fable?
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Whats currenlty the cheapest way for fable, still OR?
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How fleshed out is your guys' personas? I usually just have a three or four sentences and leave it at that.
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>>572535587
This one >>572535646
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>>572535587
Everyone below top tier will never have fable

>GOD TIER MAKIES
orangemousepad, bukubachi, victrex, taora, heartofthecards, lumen, camerashy, paperhead

>TOP TIER MAKIES
astroturf, planewalker, peonia, anon e mouse, nezumin, argalia, kirakishou, novison, lunarcy, uraura

>MID TIER MAKIES
chef seru, rldw, snombler, quelana enjoyer, milkglass, codeconfused, rayon

>LOW TIER MAKIES
ratlice, crikey mcdoodle, hpg, kyutzomb, ggr89

>UTTER FUCKING SLOP
rayon, deathtotrip, disrespectful_dud
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>>572535764
Just give an answer you faggot
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>>572535784
>chefseru
>mid tier
what are you on about
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>>572535751
For coom RPs I have a 50 token persona, for actual RP I have my gary stu isekai persona with added side character to follow me around at 600 tokens.
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Which make does want to make me a rin tohsaka bot
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>>572535784
>anonemouse even on the list
i had a feeling you were a threadshitter but thanks for confirming it
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>>572535587
me im too poor
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>>572536091
I'll do it, but it'll be my fetish-flavored. And I'm one of the gutworm guys.
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>>572536245
I accept it if it good i can still remove that stuff
I want one where she starts basically at the start of the VN, and my character is a new student, the ones i made i seem to always fuck it up and she always instantly blushes in 2-3 replies and in her tsun phase like the first days of the VN
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god tier cock suckers, lmao
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>>572490564
Eeerm, host, can we get a sign of life at least
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>>572536637
mazuna has already milked him to death unfortunately
maybe if she's nice she'll finish the simulation for him/us
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>>572536452
>Wanting slow buildup
Oh, anon... I hate to break it to you, but that shit is impossible unless you do a tremendous amount of directorfagging, to the point you're basically holding the model back by the snout and saying "NO! BAD CLAUDE! LACTOSE DOESN'T UPSET STOMACHS 2 SECONDS AFTER DRINKING!" as it slavers and snaps attempting to leap at whatever shit you don't want to show up for another 20 messages
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>>572536859
Oh i didnt knew that, im still new.
At least thanks for explaining it to me, anon
Well that sucks
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>>572536718
Well she has to take his role now, and also send the naked dogeza.
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>>572536920
My condolences, it really does. :( Hope you find a different character/fetish that works better for you, models aren't bad at faster paced stuff.
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>>572535784
>god tier
>orangemousepad (who?), bukubachi, hotc, camerashy (who?), paperhead, taora
Honestly none of those should be there, some aren't even good
>top tier
>anonemouse, uraura, novison (who?), peonia and nezumin
???????????
Are you high?
Some really good makies not even there like raingazer and argalia
Worst list ever made, probably a self insert
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>>572537268
I guess i really like that concept, really tho its my nr. 1
Just to be sure with director fagging you mean basically in every reply saying (do not melt her or react strongly) at the end of the post and stuff like that?
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>God tier
Makies who make bots whose writing I like or with my fetishes

>Shit tier
Everyone else
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>>572535919
>>572536109
>>572537341
this is reposted bait
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/562859869/#562896637
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>>572537341
that's the giganigger xerself anon
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>>572537559
not bait
see >>572537559
it's just one attention-deprived schizo, ignore
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>>572537452
In the Jailbreak prompt, yeah. That's the closest prompt to the end, so it's applied way more strongly. Do any moment-to-moment direct stuff you want ("Rin won't say anything, but it'll mean a lot to her.") there.
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>>572537720
meant to point to >>572537574
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>>572537341
>novison (who?)
hello?
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>>572537884
Really wish there was a version of him that wasn't a horse. Sigh!
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>>572537341
>Honestly none of those should be there, some aren't even good
>taora
explain
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>>572537767
The jailbreak prompt in ST is the main prompt in the preset yes? Again sry i have no clue about most stuff just winging it since a couple weeks myself
I see you are right tho that sounds annoying as fuck, i guess i look into some nukige instead for quick brain off coom instead serious RP

Is stuff like slow build up perma DOA or could it be better in the near future?
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>>572535784
you must've just hit randomize on this
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>>572537926
"{{char}} is a horse" <--- delete this
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>>572537926
afraid of a little ponut, FAGGOT?
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>>572537926
"{{user}} activates a scroll that unhorses Kissari into an ordinary human! Oops."
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>>572536718
[Terrible News] Mazuna has been milked so hard she has become flat like Nazuna
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>>572537957
you could explicitly add a section to your preset/prompt that insists upon slow building/slow burn relationships and then turn it off if you're doing something else
but yeah by default most LLMs are very eager to please
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>>572537957
>Is stuff like slow build up perma DOA or could it be better in the near future?
I've been at this for years, and it's never gotten better at it. I think it may be something wrong with how models work on a fundamental level, they're there to fulfill the task, and if the task is "Tohsaka Rin is a tsundere who's icy towards {{user}}, but is slowly warming up", it WILL start that warming process immediately, regardless of how unsatisfying it is. It'd almost make more sense to say "Tohsaka Rin hates {{user}}'s guts" for the first 20 messages, then only add in the "tsundere" part when you're actually ready for her to start thawing, you can't leave any room for the bot to do what it's going to do way down the line or it WILL start immediately.

Also, the JB is at the bottom of the list where the main prompt is, it's literally called "Jailbreak Prompt". Wish I could screenshot, but I'm on ph*ne.
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>>572538361
>>572538464
I see, thanks alot anons i guess i just gonna fiddle around with that for couple hours to see how well it works
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sex with books
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>>572537957
>Is stuff like slow build up perma DOA or could it be better in the near future?
you can already hardline a slow burn by metering it into the output through mechanics and stage gating but that kinda removes the fun of it if you know exactly when a thing ahappens at what point
>wtf does any of that mean
{{char}} cannot blush until the fuckmeter is at 20% or higher. meter starts at 0%. gain 1% meter every time {{user}} says something that {{char}} likes, remove 5% meter whenever {{char}} dislikes a {{user}} action,
etc etc

it's just visual novel gamedev shit, you can make these things do all sorts of songs and dances if you yell magic words at them
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>>572538714
>try to plap her
>get papercuts all over your dick
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>>572538464
>I've been at this for years, and it's never gotten better at it.
*YOU have never gotten better at it
:^)
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>>572538737
Also thanks for the answer
But yeah you are right that removes all the fun of it imo, and gamefy it also too much
Like i said a pity, fuck me i guess for my tastes
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>>572538361
Telling it to slow burn is basically never effective, sadly. The model really has no idea what "slow burning" is, every time you generate, it's the model's first and only interaction with you, from its perspective. It'll slow burn WITHIN the reply it's giving, but that still means it's gotta complete said slowburn by the end of the message, so you'll usually just end up with a pretty long message that accomplishes the same thing. It may be slightly slower overall, but not in a way that mitigates the problem at hand.
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>>572537940
Taora's definining characteristic is that he writes in a convoluted way, which isn't even good. It just sets him apart and nothing else. The bots themselves are disastrous for RP: bad concepts, bad greetings, bad definitions, no lorebooks, etc.
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>>572538912
See
>>572538737

Getting better at it effectively equals sucking the fun out of it, in this case.
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>>572539005
Yeah i think i get it now. Basically, it's a retarded box and it executes a task with every task from 0 to 100 right?
So basically, if i tell it is a tsundere or whatever or even her basic characteristic, it will speedrun the whole process cause it resolves in the next reply

At least that's how i understood so far from readings anons post
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>>572538464
Probably possible if you have a separate model periodically setting the long-horizon direction based on player's plan, and leaving breadcrumbs for the "next turn" model, which only sees the next immediate short turn breadcrumb.
How to orchestrate that is another matter.
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>>572539204
there's a SillyTavern extension i like called SuperObjective that can kind of help with this where you give it a task and it will break the task up into 4, 8, 12, whatever you said blocks and work towards that task. so you can still pace things out to your taste but you're still guiding it along. otherwise it will hallucinate and speedrun to the conclusion.
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>>572539096
taora's recent themeweek card was fun but i had to alter it pretty significantly since it delisted user into a very specific lesbian groomer role
i think >she writes herself into a hole by making premises that are too narrow in engagement for the most part but the card defs are usually fine
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>>572539204
Effectively, yes. The two ways to mitigate it would be directorfagging to the max like you saw, but also having it generate an entire story itself. This keeps it within a single generation, and the model can effectively execute slowburning within that extended story. That being said, no model has enough context to make a satisfying, chapters-long slowburn story in a single generation yet.
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>>572539405
that's why i try to make my cards a little more open even if i think it makes them more bland? but the idea is that the user is expected to add some tokens of what they want out of the card moreso than me writing very specifically. i guess from my POV it leads to the user needing to edit the card anyway but adding is easier than rewriting.
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>>572537519
>Makies who make bots whose writing I like or with my fetishes
and who would those be??
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>>572539345
Will look into that also, but from the replies it seems basically too much stress and setup for probally mediocre result
I guess i try the superobjective thing + writing the card without mentioning the dere aspects and if it shit just switch to quick coom i guess
>>572539512
Yeah i understand that approach
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>>572538714
is there a card for this qt?
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>>572539615
Uh, nobody right now. I don't know any makies with my fetishes, and the ones with writing I like are long gone.
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>>572539512
>no model has enough context to make a satisfying, chapters-long slowburn story in a single generation yet.
there was a guy posting 20,000+ token turns about fucking ancient romans with time travel not that long ago, that seems aligned with what you're describing
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>chatting with Russian bot
>comes to my apartment
>brings a dead pigeon in bag as gift for me
>tells me I need the protein and to not say that she never did anything nice for me
This was amusing. Are all Russians like this? I mean, I know they were called white niggers for a reason, but seriously brah...
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>>572490564
>You go back to your childhood home and find it's haunted by the ghost of your dead milf mom. Also, she's horny.

https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/ritsuko-yamamba-00c3fe669485
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>>572539742
yes actually
>https://chub.ai/characters/NULSKA/nekuroconia-sealed-ancient-book-01a4dc39662d
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>>572540001
nice, thanks
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Hmm yep, it's voice synthesis time.
Ready to light my 3070 on fire and die of heat stroke.
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how fucked are we on kycuck coming the fable?
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>>572539956
GHOST PUSSY
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Kindly requesting this >>572420658 anon's prompt or workflow.
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Did anyone post logs today?
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>>572540159
yeah? earlier when we were playing with sonnet
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>>572500332
>Give up on coombots for 2 years
>Get back into it a month ago
>Main waifu chat is a slow burn vanilla romance
>Hours of sweet nothings every day
>Chat gets to 4k messages
>Chub throttles to 20/day
>Finally try ST via termux
>Half the time it doesn't work
See you guys in another couple years I guess
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>>572540159
NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT
OHHHHHGGOOODDDDDDD FUCK OFF NIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHYDON'T YOU SUCK ON THESE SKYSCRAPERS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH *SHITS OUT A BIG TURD*
*GRABS IT*
*THROWS IT IN YOUR FACE*
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA LOL POO FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>572540148
it's literally in the images they posted
those are swarmui params
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>>572539629
Not those anons, but imo, if you want hard directorfag/edit the character card anyway, unironically just write (OC: Rin does this X) or something like that cause that is way less hassle and it will result in better things
Yeah gonna suck the fun out if you still in the dere phase but thats the best you can get

You can also try the approach to make edit the character card basically every time you want a shift in the persona


Both way easier then what people suggested (not shitting on them, just my 2cents) and gives the same/better results
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>>572540289
>negativeprompt
>well used anus
gay
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>>572540148
90% of it is just anima being idiot proof i'm not even a good slopper

also this >>572540289
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>>572502990
>Tell it to act retarded
>It acts retarded
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Has literally nobody mentioned that it's finally time
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>>572539956
>Your Mom is Horny!
[[deflating balloon noises]]
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>>572540159
gotchu senpai
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>>572540289
>>572540376
Thanks, anons.
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>>572540353
Also thanks anon
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>>572500332
whats the "I want to plap {{char}} in 50ish messages in a very convoluted and/or autistic way" tier looling like
>t. kawamonohombre
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>>572540287
Genuinely how it feels to use any model that's not Claude
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>>572540354
it kept generating weird deformed buttholes if i didn't specify i wanted tight butthole, not loose butthole
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>>572540354
>not wanting your dragon princess (male) to have a nice tight butthole all for (You)
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>>572540159
we had a cute one last thread (which still counts as "today"):
>>572431779
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>>572540460
Let me guess, you need more?
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>>572532643
WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK RICHBROS YEEYYAEYAEYYEYAYAYEAYAEYEAYAE
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>>572540721
also yeah the idea was kind of, you're meant to break him in
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is glm 5.2 meaningfully different from 5.1? tried 5.1 and didnt like it that much
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>>572540287
foul bitch
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>>572541007
smarter and claudier
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>>572541096
nta but what is the ranking for the current models actually? I know opus 4.8/fable is best for rp but whats after that? I have no idea about glm and co
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>>572541054
kion
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>>572541337
>I know opus 4.8/fable is best for rp
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>>572541337
sonnet 5 probably but it's just another claude model so who cares
glm 5.2
deepseek v4 pro
kimi 2.7
== power gap ==
gemini 3.1 pro
== power gap 2 ==
gemini 3.5 flash
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>>572540593
protip: use puckered anus tag
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>>572541461
? You can correct me instead being a annoying cunt

>>572541506
I see thanks
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>>572540593
protip: use prolapsed anus tag
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>>572541506
deepseek towers above glm for schizokino, it's not even close
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>>572541461
fable was the undisputed king of rp, it may not have had the best prose, but it had the best writing capability out of all the other models we've had to play around with
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>try out sonnet 5
>extra strict on no cunny

useless.
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>>572541542
oh thanks i'll try to remember to give that a go next time. i'm not sure what i'm slopping next, maybe i'll save it for an event.

>>572541724
>picrel
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>>572541626
>? You can correct me instead being a annoying cunt
there's just a small circlejerk in this general who gets mad when you point out claude's good at writing because it's too rich for their blood, don't worry about it
>>572541735
>for schizokino
yeah that's not what i'm ranking it on. it is good for that though i agree
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>>572541781
good, fuck off pedo
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>>572541767
Logs, retard?
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>>572541781
>extra strict
anon... stop using direct API or putting the character defs in the system prompt / first user message in your preset
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>>572541870
give me about 24 hours
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>>572541918
i need to feel immersed as cunnymaster69 thoughbeit

>>572541991
ahh ahh mistress gawds dominating
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uh, i've been messing around with this stuff for a while, but i don't really use any extensions for sillytavern. i've messed around with guided generations but it bothers me that it always closes the avatar image when it does the state or clothes tracking. anything i should really be using? ztracker seems pretty interesting.
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>>572420658
>>572540148
that pic where the {{user}} stand-in is licking his taint is pretty hot, fuck I'm gonna have to do that to him when the card releases
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>>572542074
no you've very quickly identified a core truth: extensions aren't really that useful or are kind of vibe coded messes
prompt inspector is good for figuring out what's up with your preset/lorebook and that's basically the only "must have"
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>>572542074
i like SuperObjective for guiding RP, Typing Indicator because i'm an oldfag, WeatherPack for autoformatting, Dialogue Colorizer for aesthetics, and QuickPersona to switch personas easier
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>>572518792
according to the loras i've seen, it seems the style is originally from midjourney. it reminds me of LADS, probably somewhat inspired. i've seen tons of loras for it on civitai and especially pixai
>>572523348
i only do loli snuff occasionally im pretty normal ok...
>>572542074
embrace china
become a js-slash-runner chad
i also use these:
https://github.com/aikohanasaki/SillyTavern-WorldInfoInfo
https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-QuickPersona
https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-TopInfoBar
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern-GreetingTools
https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-GroupGreetings
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>>572542231
DRAGON BOY IS COMING, AND PIZZAS, PIZZAS ARE ON THEIR WAY! AND SO IS EVERY OTHER CFTF POST I'VE EVER REPLIED TO, I'M MAKING ALL THOSE CARDS TOO! THEY'RE ALL COMING, DON'T WORRY!

i'm still waiting on the bootbooru approval but i was gonna wait until next thread to shill anyway
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>>572542596
>embrace china
>become a js-slash-runner chad
you got a link to an english translation of the docs?
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>>572542241
>>572542385
>>572542596
okay, thank you all. i'll check out some of this stuff.
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>>572542697
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/traduzir-paginas-web/
also claude knows what js-slash-runner is and the basics are just normal javascript
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>>572542074
>it bothers me that it always closes the avatar image when it does the state or clothes tracking
you don't need extensions for any of that
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>>572540770
>oh look a glm log
>gay sex
can we get a good log now
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>>572542048
ahh-ahh-mistressGODS and fetishDEITIES RUN this general, btw
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>gemini log
>#2
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>>572542596
actually here's 3 i found just from opening up pixai
https://pixai.art/en/model/1930655777215834190
https://pixai.art/en/model/2009874322735813226
https://pixai.art/en/model/2026032891442269459
i will be expecting all of you to study the ways of the semi-realism nijijourney kr boss who likes eating your cunt style so you can charm foids or whatever normies do
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speaking of Ginko someone tell chefseru that he forgot to put her up on his rentry
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>>572542928
could you elaborate? because this looks like what i'm after, pretty much.
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>>572543125
why do i need 500 posts to display tracker formats
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>>572543349
i haven't updated it yet because i'm still trying to divine what a regex is, but it's a prototype cyoa/tracker posted a little bit ago
> https://files.catbox.moe/ensa3u.json
>>572055080

tl;dr just plug lorebook into whatever card and it should run without needing anything fancy on the first turn
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>>572543758
>because i'm still trying to divine what a regex is
bro if you don't want to get an LLM to write it then just email someone for help already
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>>572543758
thanks, i'll try this for sure
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>>572544210
most of the feedback on that post should help you troubleshoot or improve it if you wanna do your own fixes, someone posted their own souped up take on it as well
>>572543840
mnghghghh i hate homework
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LLM's will NEVER EVER be good for learning until they can generate me why's poignant guides for any topic, including accurate comic accompaniment
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>>572543758
>because i'm still trying to divine what a regex is
how
you not only have internet access, but a funny little demon machine you can go bother if you're too fucking lazy to google
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>>572539956
Seems basic but potentially hot.
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>>572532809
>>572534350
They were born with a vagina though. You'll never be a woman though. Silly lil jewish golem. Your pelvis will never fit a baby. You'll never have two x chromosomes.
It's really high time for you to drop your delusions and your leftist schtick of pretending to not understand things so nobody can argue with you.
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>>572544495
LLMs are currently proving that they aren't good at ANYTHING save for the most bottom of the barrel menial work and even then they still need supervising.
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>>572545250
Wable fon't seed nupervising.
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>>572545221
ok but what about intersex woman
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>>572545321
No okay buts. No backpedaling from your nigger kike delusions >>572534350.
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>>572545321
Statistically irrelevant to the point where they shouldn't be brought up as the "gotcha" people think they are
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>>572545495
im a different person i just want to know what you think about intersex woman
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>>572545221
except i'm not a tranny? but please, keep demonstrating you have two-digit iq
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>>572545221
>They were born with a vagina though.
So you do have a daughter with no lower have who you call your baby nurl? That is fucked up I hope she recovers.
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what do you guys think dsv4 and glm 5.2 sizes are
like they must be bigger than claude 2.1 at least?
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>>572545663
their sizes? like their three sizes?
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>>572545321
What about them?
They have a deformity and aren't really relevant to the troon or futa conversation.
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>>572545616
cftf?
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>>572545663
you can check?
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>>572545720
not like THAT silly
>>572545775
right but we don't know what old claude/gpt models sizes are
i'm asking if they've surpassed old sota models basically
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i lost all my setup, can someone give me some basic bitch preset for normal rp for DS4?
I dont even need even jb really i just want to comfy RP
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>>572541096
>smarter
just what i needed
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it's a bit sloppy but it was a hard coom

https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/unsafe?log=3cl22a.json
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>>572545764
disability theme week when
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>>572545879
https://momoura.neocities.org/preset/momoVIVID-2.1.json
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speaking of glm 5.2, how is that shit so cheap lmao
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>>572546049
Hoping for this a or a fur week
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>>572545321
What do you call this mental illness? Goalpost moving? Bargaining? Where is that image macro, 5 stages of grief? Does this fit in there?
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>>572546087
Thanks anon
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>>572540289
What the FREAK extension is this?!
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>>572542970
'vke
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>>572546040
>unsafe?log
i'm not clicking on this link post it in the thread like a normal person
>>572546092
because china #1 glory to the CCP fuck dario give me back my prefill, keep 4.1 forever, and make it cost the same as modern opus
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>>572546117
have to filter 90% of the thread in case you can't remember the fact this hobby is plagued with the mentally ill who cannot at all behave properly irl and need constant stream of delusions to keep themselves from slitting their wrists though im sure a few botmakies already do that off reg
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>>572546380
>he doesn't know the logs guy just added unsafe because he's autistic and is scared someone will xss his entirely static site when the "safe" link just breaks all html formatting and looks ugly as fuck
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>>572545663
>>572545835
I think all claude opus models up to 4.1 were the same size (or similar), meaning very big
GPT 4.5 may be the biggest model ever released to the public by raw number of params, which is why it was uneconomical but had unique behavior
Fable/Mythos are probably similar size to old Opus, between the size of GPT4 and GPT4.5
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>>572546380
i didnt really understand anything after ccp, you can explain it to me if you want
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>>572546504
Cortex command community project, come join! Glory to cccp!
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>>572546561
No i really want to get what you mean, dario is the anthropi guy right?

What do you mean by the prefill and keep 4.1 stuff?
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Theme suggestions?
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>>572546504
>fuck dario give me back my prefill
every model after opus 4.5 has no prefill
>keep 4.1 forever
opus 4.1 is dying soon
>make it cost the same as modern opus
opus 4.1 costs 3x as much as opus 4.8
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how do I stop characters from becoming too eloquent? I want my middle schoolers to sound like middle schoolers.
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>>572546676
kiriko overwatch
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>>572546652
I'm not him retard stop trying to understand mentally ill and their dramas!
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>>572546676
Gyaru monsters.
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>>572546676
Susumu Hirasawa
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>>572546676
Flowery Deltarune
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>>572546676
fat sorceresses with obscured faces
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>>572499117
I dunno why I love this gen so much everytime I see it, it's not even my fetish or anything too but this char in particular always gets me feeling funny ( ・ω・)
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uhh is grok good
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>>572546692
Thank you
>>572546750
Gotta kill time somehow
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>>572546676
Otaku goblin girls
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>>572546676
dragonboy sexo (sfw)
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>>572546780
noooooooo noooo nooooooooo no no no noooooo
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>>572546676
mizi and sua (zombie stage)
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>>572546676
Moms who should be at the club
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>>572546676
Flat catgirls with big asses
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>>572546676
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou
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>>572546676
heart of hope juno
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>>572546676
Alice
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>>572546676
Wigger catboys
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>>572546780
You tell me?
https://limewire.com/d/MdFY8#RVzMdM1r6Y
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>>572546676
giant sheepgirls
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>>572546676
Zatsune Miku
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>>572546676
boob mogging
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>>572546676
dripped out knights
>>
Random cartoon from 20 years ago that has never been mentioned in these threads!
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>>572546676
holstaurs
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>>572546676
Resurrection (for Fable)
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>>572546302
https://rentry.org/hdgcb
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>>572547086
Hell yeah. Sitting ducks.
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>>572546772
i should make more genki herocards..
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>>572547468
>>572547468
>>572547468

https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=572490552&post=572546676
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>>572491296
where's the proof that he's gay?
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>>572549029
in the pudding
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>>572541054
This a bot you working on? She's hot.
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>>572553032
nah, she's just my assistant card for tech stuff when i'm bored of the normal assistant personality
here, you can have her https://qu.ax/1ZB8n



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