Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9450 - Chart version 4 Edition==NEWS==>Shadow Frontiers: Definitive Edition Officially announced for Nintendo Switch 2[YouTube] Shadow Frontiers Definitive Edition - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition - Launch Trailer>Shadow the Hedgehog's 25th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/Shadow -the-hedgehog?tab=25th-anniversary>Shadow the Hedgehog 2 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/ShadowMovie>'Shadow Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.Shadowstadium.org/articles/Shadow/Shadow-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/==Important links==>Shadow the hedgehog 100% playthroughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPgqLyfhQ-0 [Embed] [Open]>Shadow the hedgehog reviewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0250szcrkw [Embed] [Open]==Comic Release Dates==DC X Shadow the Hedgehog #3 - 01 July 2026Shadow the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Shadow the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Shadow the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026DC X Shadow the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026Shadow the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026Shadow the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4 (embed)>Shadow Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#Shadow-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Shadow comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Shadow shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone >>572446905
Tails! <3
Amy and Blaze should trade sidekicks.
Marine with Silver is stupid, but what is even more stupid is it could mean that Silver could possibly be in Blaze's Dimension to do so. Which would be fucking bad if it happened in general.
>>572512768>Blazefags holding Marine hostage.First Cream, then Nega now Marine.Blazefags are greedy and selfish.
Douge
Do you want Mobius to be another planet or just a mountain. I'm asking for personal opinions here.
>>572512442Eggman nega and Silver are not from the sol dimension
>>572512664
>Silver will never pin you to the wallWhy even live
>>572512924Planet
>>572512442Why's there two Silvers?
>>572512442
>>572512952Eggman Nega isn't from a "Ruined Future". Neither is the Silver we seen running around with Blaze. ESP Silver is the guy from 06/the ruined future.
>>572513087Because according to Sonic Team (as seen in Runners and Speed Simulator) there are two Silvers after a timeline split
>>572512898i dont think marinefags are specifically silver or silvaze fans, but i think they arent so schizo that they would rather doom her in gachaslop hell just for shitty sonaze ship
>>572513087Canonically, there are two of them.https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/ESP_Silver
>>572513096silver is the leader in the actual gameplay.
>>572513358>mobileslop>"canonically"waterfag spotted
https://youtu.be/x5MBtpuQm2c&t=441Wait, what the Hell? Sister Sonic isn't an open-and-shut case? There's actually evidence from Japanese sources of it rebranding into...THIS!? And the Popful Mail rumor was just likely dumb westmag teens taking the piss out of us??
>>572513279I'm a marinefag saying as much. I always liked Marine and it kinda sucks she is stuck in Sol Dimsension jail because of Blaze.Now Blazefags are concern trolling the character because they just see her as an NFT for parallelfagging.Lame as hell.
>>572513509Sonic Team made Sonic Runners.
>>572512726that's partly the point, marine is like a younger and more childlike amy that the older amy can empathize with, and cream has traits like honesty, innocence etc. that blaze values but amy can see as overstepping. but the combos require balancing out, instead of just working as fluff.
>>572513616still not canon retard. only mainline games matter kill yourself
Ken Penders new lore in his comic is that Hope is an identical clone of Maria.
>>572513609i am sorry for you guys, but i don't think it's realistic to expect her to get more than mobileslop unless she gets in team dimensions and then interacts with sonic, tails, amy etc. due to proximity to them.
>>572513698
>>572512898>then Nega>make bad guy for Blaze >is now just fighting Silver You have to admit that was weird for them to just do that. But didn't silverfags dropped Nega like a dead fly for that Sage concept a while back? That shows they didn't care that much about him as they say
>>572513798based
>>572513842Silver and Espio left Nega to die in Rivals 2. From where I'm standing, Nega is dead.
>>572513498TRUKE
>>572513096>>572513441>>572512442i am not a character schizo of blaze and if blaze was the leader, that could actually make sense with their characters, but that's not what sonic team is going to do and anyone expecting that is going to be disappointed. i am just pre-warning about what's going to happen.
>>572513798If Hope is a clone why the hell is she so short compared to her genetic base
>>572513498I despise what Boom, the English version of Frontiers, and Dream Team did to Amy
>>572513616So we have 5+ versions of every character now because of fucking Skins?
>>572513540Imagine if Sega actually made Sister Sonic. Since it would be a japanese game, it probably wouldn't be easily disregarded like the western stuff in the long run.
>>572513135>Schizo babbleSilver and Nega are from the future, more so the real timeline of rivals, where there's one Silver, else you're telling us there are another version of each character from 06 because being from another time means being being another space to you.
>>572513798So Hope is artificial?
>>572513135Silver is from a ruined future that he fixed. He is consciously aware of the ruined future because he was there dumbass
>>572513224That also means that theres another version of each character every time the timeline splits, which means it's pretty retarded coming from OP
>>572489942This artist? Their art is largely based off that one era of the comics. I kinda get what you mean, but they are still very good. Love their stuff.
>>572514679Penders new comic shows Shadow discovering a research lab where Hope was created from Maria's DNA. It was also part of his original plans for the Hope Arc 20 years ago so apparently it isn't something he just made now but something he always planned after associating the two
>>572514794We don't know anything about ESP Silver's time other than Blaze (she left) and Iblis (it disappeared)
>>572514948So did Hopefags win?
>>572513842The Nega Blaze vs Silver discourse was always mostly just Blazefags complaining because Nega being anything other than an NFT for parallels makes them mad.Thr Silverfag menace they made up in their head is just that. Made up.
>>572513798That is retarded, I'm glad that did not happen.
Sonic 2 special stages. Yay or nay?
>>572515049Well it means she is absolutely not some kind of reincarnation, just a copy of the original. Either way you have to take it along with the idea that they look identical since both of those came from Penders.
We're not getting any news for the next game this year.
>>572512442Apparently wanting Silver to be away from Blaze got OP molding from some reason and he started saying cringey things like "you'll regret this" and "it's your fault" while pushing Silver to be part of an ever changing future of Sonic as if it's one world.Funny as well, Marine never helped Blaze and was never her sidekick, meanwhile the chaotix have been sharing many team ups, fights, stories and victories with Silver, which got op to have a meltdown and everyone to laugh at the schizophrenia of Blazefags trying to one-up an imaginary villain.
>>572514985Doesn't this artist have beef with Krack
>>572513540Total Raccoon Victory!
>>572515276They were loved before the internet made it illegal via complaining about their difficulty.I hate how the discourse around it has devolved to just complaining that they are too hard.The experience of the half pipes was amazing and stuck around for a reason
>>572515304The fact we haven't had a single credible leak by now is starting to get me concerned.
>>572514838It's another artist who likes to draw Sally with big bush eyebrows. They draw a decent Sonic but his Sally is shit. Literally looks like a man.
>>572515380i think the actual truth is silver being sonic while blaze being his amy rather than the reverse but japan doesnt care about silvespio.
>>572515536You have to post their art for me to see what you are saying.
>>572515638Hope being a clone made by GUN makes no sense. She was raised in. Space and her parents are characters in the comic. She literally has a prominent brother brother lol Penders
>>572515638So Hope was a clone of Maria designed to control Shadow. This manuscript is decades old so this is what we would get if Ian wasn't hired.
>>572515638What fucking purpose is there to make her a clone? She is her own person, and sure that can be done with clones but is it so hard to imagine another member of a family looking alike?
>>572515859>I refer to the girl designated Hope>She has no relevance so Penders Shadow doesn't even like her?
>>572514838NTA but why it looks like a cheap AI gen on the right?
So Ken was being truthful when he said he wanted to get away from the FFs near the end. I mean, I think this plot is retarded but it doesn't really involve anyone from before SA2.
>>572516059The next page shows Shadow dismissing Hope when she's brought up so I guess the thing of Shadow bonding with her was just Ian's idea?
>>572515569and although i believe silver is the leader of team dimensions he isn't really made to be away from blaze, the whole 06 SOL stuff is reference to rush stuff and even iblis is now inside blaze. both shonenfags and blazefags have to deal with these two realities.
>>572515380Gay fanfiction will always be gay fanfiction
>>572512726I like Cream but I also like Marine and I agree with this.
>>572516141Backrooms reference
Mario won
Ian Flynn made Hope OOC is what you're telling me.
>>572515304>>572515535I have never been more angry at Sonic Team due to all the retarded decisions they've been making lately and how they're letting SOA ruin the characters
What is up with these charts and why is there a fight over them.
>>572513498I looked this post up and it's fucking two years old. And we still have this fucking problem.
>>572515731I don't think that was written by Ken Penders and he was notorious for not reading other people's stories.
>>572516225This is what she was always going to be. Penders came up with the idea that Hope and Maria are identical.
>>572514948>>572515049>>572515293Shadow is an artificial attempt at creating the ultimate lifeform, and he looks just like SonicHope is an artificial attempt at creating Maria
>>572516506mostly shonenfags angry at silver being ''amy'' counterpart because it makes him look lamer. i don't agree with silver being mainly the amy counterpart but most of the suggestions have even less base than what op places them at
>>572516551That's true. Bollers created Hope and her backstory. Penders is the one who tied her to Maria. Flynn is the one who made her a super tech genius who works for GUN. Maria and Hope weren't relevant to each other before Penders. Shadow and Hope weren't friends before Ian.
What if rape, but with consent?
>>572513540What the Fuck! So they basically misreported a pitch as being the version in production, and it was apparently shaping into a different game?
...a clone of Maria designed to weaponized Shadow further...
Will Hope being a clone lore be added to the Chronicles fangame lol.
>>572516372Sonic is going to win too
>>572516625Shadow is the ultimate life form due to his black arms dna, not because he's a hedgehog.
>>572515731>>572516551>>572516795Who cares? Why do you need things to "respect the original vision" you elitists! Writers should write whatever random shit comes to their minds. Stop bragging about your knowledge of "other people's stories".
Penders was going to vault the freedom fighters and make Archie about some sci-fi horror abuse shitWe were robbed
A clone of Maria designed to manipulate Shadow but can't because she's an artificial concept is intriguing but this story is definitely lifted out of some sci-fi pop film or show. Then again Pender was a huge Star Trek fan. Oddly it doesn't feel that out of place. Still contradictory to what Hope is in the comic book.
Isn't this an exact copy of Jurassic Park 4 where the clone daughter was created to control the super mutant
>>572517141Sonic is identical to Shadow, except Sonic isn't artificially created. Being hedgehogs or the black arms retcon shit is irrelevant.
>>572517369I only watched the first two movies.
>>572487886>>572488142wat was it? it gone.
I'm so glad of the Hope we got and not that. Who knows what kind of bull shit he would have done next with that idea.
>>572517187Technically if you go by creator intent Hope has nothing to do with Shadow and is meant to be adopted into the royal family after learning to grow past her small prejudice against mobians
>>572517234The Freedom Fighters were going to vaulted multiple times in the comic. The other time was when Penders and the other writers left to start a clean slate but Ian fought to keep them and just agreed to kill off some of the other OCs. Then they were going to get vaulted again when the Reboot happened and Ian and others fought to keep them there too. Archie didn't really give a shit about these niggas besides Ian lmao.
So basically everyone was done with using the FFs way back in 2006 and Ian was the sole person who kept making them relevant for the next 11 years. Good to know.
>>572517187Ian and Penders didn't make Hope so this isn't creators intent. Hopes only character was that she was racist to mobians and grew over it
>>572517798More elitist "facts" no one asked for. Stop acting like you're a "true" fan just because you know what you're talking about.
So Ian is like those people who think Launch and Tien should be main characters in DBZ
Knock knock
>>572517767No one at Archie and Sega grew up with SatAM so they ultimately didn't care what happened to the characters from it. Ian did and still dedicates his life to trying to resurrect them even though their time has clearly passed.
>>572517971I don't know what you're talking about, I'm just clarifying that creators intent has nothing to do with Penders comic (or Ian) since he isn't the creator
>>572517417It's literally said by Sonic Team anon. I don't care if you think it's irrelevant.
What would YOU do if you found out you were a clone, /sthg/?
>>572518051Sounds better than Goshit desu, so that's a bad example.
>>572517187Hope is an Archie character. All she has is creator intent. There is nothing that is IC or OOC for her because her entire concept changed with each writer. Bollers wanted her to be a fish out of water who learns mobians aren't so bad. Penders wanted a generic Maria clone. Ian made her Shadow's friend.
>>572518326Am I a special clone or an exact clone? Either way, kill the original and replace him.
>>572516795Hope actually acknowledges that she didn't like Shadow at first under Ian but came around when she learned he's not so bad
>>572518051Mystic Tien podría derrotar por sí solo a todo el multiverso de Sonic sin siquiera moverse.
>>572518215It's irrelevant because it has nothing to do with what was being said. Shadow is the result of a scientific project to create the ultimate lifeform, and he looks exactly like Sonic. This is said in the narrative of SA2.
>>572518116>walks byOh... Hey, Amy. Still breaking down those doors, I see. I hope the owner has a bigger bank account than I did... Say, can you spare some change? I haven't eaten in two days. Just enough for a burger or something would be fine, if you can...
Yeah Shadow grappling with a GUN conspiracy to control him is better then Shadow joining GUN and having wholesome adventures with Maria version 2.
>>572518326Sex
>>572518556lol
>>572518841AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>572517091He should add it and emphasize the new fact that Hope is a failed result of an evil scheme to abuse Shadow and make them hate each other since Ian Flynn invented their whole friendship in the first place just like his GUN agent crap
>play with Silver in Crosswrolds >Be 4-6 place>I took too long!>Be 7-9 place>It could have been worse :)Is he actually a schizo? He sounds happier when he loses harder and angrier when he almost wins
>>572518764nah
>>572518764Yes, I'd take this story as long as Ken didn't draw it and had a wrangler.
>>572518051Ian sounds like the kind of person to keep the core 4 around instead of over wanking Shadow and Silver
>>572518841That single door would have Super Sonic on the ropes barely living.
>>572519028This story with Sega mandates would be better than relationship slop with impending Sega mandates
>>572519040Too bad his Core 4 is Sonic, Sally, Knuckles, and Scourge when forced to team up with the heroes.
>>572516309You've got to stop using cringey Gotchas, it makes you more of a tranny than whatever trannies you're trying to imagine
Sonic characters for this feel?https://youtu.be/1BhtwIA1xWA
>>572517187Because Hope having anything to do with Maria was part of this story in the first place. This is literally the full version of the plot.
>>572518646I have borger
It makes sense. Penders made them identical instead of just similar looking and when her parents die she has no reaction. Almost like he wanted them out of the plot.
Fans said Penders hated Shadow, but it looks like he was actually interested in the character (darker story and sci-fi shit that Ken loves) but was just frustrated that Sega never gave info because they didn't trust the west with it (rightfully so imo).
>>572520001>rightfully so imoBack then it was pure incompetence by Sega
>HopeNot even Shadow's friend. An engineered weapon created to manipulate him
Hope was created by Karl Bollers but Ken and Ian wanted to make her Maria #2 because people online said the characters looked alike. Kek.
What reason is there for this character's being? Why do they exist. I still don't know.
>>572520001>Sega never gave info because they didn't trust the west with itI hate that I'm basically defending Penders here but SoJ was giving Ken and other people in the West absolutely NOTHING to go off of. Assuming Penders isn't lying (and he has no reason to about this) SEGA didn't even bother giving him character outlines so he had to figure out who new characters were along with everyone else. That's just sheer incompetency on SOJ's part.
Hopecucks destroyed
>>572520396If she doesn’t overlap with other characters then she’s important That’s what windshitters say supposedly
>>572520149>Was afraid if Shadow like he was a monster >Also was planned to a genetic clone to control Shadow Hopebros, I think we're just Anti-Maria...
>>572520001This story sounds more like an actual Sonic story then the bullshit with the shitty freedom fighters
You fucking idiots tried to ship Shadow with gross mutant Maria who didn't even like him when he acted like Shadow
>>572520456I wish I could see the timeline where SoJ actually supplied information and where Penders' craziness would go with it. Because frankly, Shadow practically the kind of character Penders would want to write in the comic. Shadow's game even introduced demonic aliens.
Shadhope stocks rising!
Maria was born from a womb, Hope was born from a test tube or bio-tank. They are not the same.
>>572520918I thought fangame Hope was banging Chris
If Hope was Maria does that mean she would have had aids too? Also, consider clone hope feelings. Would she really want to hurt Shadow or how she would feel about this reveal
>>572521220>Clone Maria bangs Kid EggmanUh...
>>572515859Pre-Flynn Archiedow saying Hope is irrelevant is funny
the hope seething doesn't feel natural like someone is forcing something no one cares about like i can understand the constant silver versus blaze thing even if it always reads like an insane asylum of people arguing over water but the hope thing just doesn't feel like anyone cares except one person
>>572521670I think Shadow pre-Ian still didn't accept Hope as Maria even as a confirmed clone. Maybe that would've changed later. We won't know unless Penders reveals more of what he had planned.
>>572521227>Had a bad first impression of Sonic>a worse first impression of Shadow >Had aids because she was made for Shadow >Shadow doesn't care about herHope is just Shadow Surge
>>572520396It's entirely possible she'll be part of the next main game or something. She was first teased shortly before the release of Frontiers. We just kinda don't know. What we DO know is that she was in TailsTube after being teased twice, was teased in the movie, and appeared in Chaotix Casefiles, so they clearly have SOME intent for her.
>>572521957I'm frankly shocked that Hope was going to made an outright clone of Maria. Not a parallel or reincarnation, an actual clone created by GUN.
Sci-fi stories with dark undertones and alien stuff feels much more in character with both Shadow and the series as a whole than what IDW does.
So Ken Penders is actually a Dark Age Shadowfag?
>>572521957She isn't good enough to fuck Shadow
>>572521957That is what you call autism. I like her though.
>>572521957Who the fuck is seething? This sounds way better than what we got in Archie after Penders left
>>572521181>Hope was born from a test tube or bio-tankSo, like Shadow?
Penders if he wrote Sonic X:Molly? A clone of Hope, who is a clone of Maria.
>>572522145Looks like he might've been if he stayed on the comic. He probably would've switched from Knuckles sci-fi wank to Shadow sci-fi wank. And you probably would've gotten both a Knuckles AND Shadow sci-fi wank arc while Sonic is somewhere in a corner having relationship drama with Sally, because knowing Ken, he would've had Geoffrey cuck Sonic.
Penders>Writes a story that understands the core themes of Shadow Flynn>Romance and royalty bullshit up the assWhy am I supposed to hate Penders again? Because he said the shitty slutmunk fucked a skunk?
>>572522138>Sci-fi stories with dark undertones and alien stuff feels much more in character with...the series as a whole.Maybe for the Dark Age, but not the series as a whole.
>>572522138But we had Frontiers and "Oops all aliens" pissed off some people
What if Chris is a Maria clone
>>572522384my wife molly…
>>572522406Why do Dark Age fags hate Sonic and his goofy friends (whether its the Freedom Fighters or the Core 4) so much?
>>572522575>>572522625You can balance Sonic's fairie-like mania with Shadow's more grounded and darker themes.But now I'm fantasizing about a timeline where this franchise was treated properly and not managed by idiots.
>>572522807I don't know about the freedom fighters but the core 4 have been a boring combination in everything outside of sa2 and the riders games. It's worse now than ever before.
>>572519013>Is he actually a schizo?Yes
>>572513001Why was Cream seething here? I didn't read Archie.
>>572520396Is this broad in any soj material?
>>572522807because newer fans of characters like silver blaze and shadow like power levels and sad sacks fighting against the world the core four are essentially barney to them keeping the franchise too colorful
Actually, I do want to live in the timeline where Ken basically turns Knuckles and Shadow into the Naruto and Sasuke of the Archie comics where they are the ultimate powers to decide the fate of the world while everyone else exists to stare in awe or provide minor support when they aren't jobbing.
Sonic isn't entirely straight
>>572518606That's true, but he's the ultimate lifeform because of his black arms dna. Without it, he wouldn't be the ultimate lifeform.
>>572522807they like amy sometimes, knuckles too. but shadow stole the show for a while.>>572522817what kind of tone should silver have, as something sonic or shadow cant do.
>tfw penders clone story was the first step to reveal the other purpose for it was GUN to be Nazis who wanted to clone aryan women for the continuance of the master raceIM GOING INSANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEE AT THIS GENIUS OF HISHAHAHHHHHHHHHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Hope belongs to Silver cause ...it's hope...
>>572522469I don't hate Penders. Wanting to fuck Sally is based. Claiming your oc fucked Sally is autistic as fuck, but it's the kind of autism that resulted in interesting and fun stories instead of Flynn's sanitized crap.
>>572523105Tori cameo'd in the Tokyo stage of ShadGens.
>>572523486I honestly have no idea how Silver would differ. Maybe use him for mysteries or something. Sonic and Shadow are kind if like Ying-Yang in my head. No real room for Silver other than to be "the new guy".
>>572523501Now THIS is what I'm talking about fuck yea.
>>572523325Sonic is Up n' Down and All Around.
You hear that Chronicles? Hope was never intended to be paired with Shadow at all. Ian mischaracterized her by making her friends with Shadow. Keep that in mind.
Wanna see me put my nuts in Sally's mouth?
>>572523945sonic and shadow are both yang to me, silver is more yin i suppose (action vs inaction.)
>>572522817>You can balance Sonic's fairie-like mania with Shadow's more grounded and darker themes.Maybe, but ST sure hasn't proven this, lol
>rumors going around that Sega is remaking Bayo 1 for all systems with the help of the people who remade Panzer Dragoon without platinum games >at the same time Platinum and Panic Button are working on the Bayo Trilogy remasterSega is fucking retarded
>>572523802Not just the movie stage, the actual movie.
>>572524290Yes, but only if she's masturbating while you do it.
>>572524339>Sega is fucking retardedIn more recent news, the sky is blue and the grass is green.
Now that they've been a thing for quite a while. Your HONEST on these two, and the entirety of all the stories they have been in? what do you think of their current writing and direction, etc? Tell me!
>>572524273Technically, both Ken and Ian mischaracterized Hope.
>>572524478We do know Sega has no clue how to make Bayo look good without Platinum
>>572524503Surge is awesome. I don't give af about Kit. Literally just a shittier Marine and Tails fusion.
>>572524503I wish they'd just go away and never come back at this point.
>>572524553She looks hot to me.
>>572524314>>572523945yes this is spergy and i know you just meant dark vs happy duality but yin yang is more specific.
>>572524553Do not post this again.
>>572524640why
>>572523945Silver was always in a weird spot, where he's positioned as both a Light Sonic and more active than Sonic. But, Sonic doesn't really have any faults, has transformed purely from positive energy (SA1), and anything interesting is brought to Sonic instead of Sonic being a generic cape hero searching a city for trouble
>>572522575It was indeed the series as a whole before 2010. The only real exception is Shadow's own game.
>>572524896None of the writers on the comic book can write them in an interesting or fun way.
>>572524957i was thinking maybe silver would have a world less ''real'' than either of them, wih the main theme either being mindfuck or surrealism. idk how id say it.
>>572525003how so. is the new kit causing trouble not enough?
Here's some Eggman being cool.https://archiveofourown.org/works/79175501/chapters/232389136
>>572525153>>572524957natural, artificial, supernatural is the logical conclusion and him flying, moving and manipulaing objects, talking to ghosts, having white color reminding you of ghosts etc. reminded me of it
>>572524821I get you. More than anything my point was that Silver is just kind of in a weird spot like what this guy says >>572524957In terms of characterization, honestly I'd make Silver a lot more aggressive like in his 06 depiction and have his major faults be that he's "too green" and while he's powerful and overestimates himself rather than underestimates the obstacles or enemy. *coughNerocough*But in terms of story telling and mood and atmosphere. I'm at a complete lost because I can't think of anything that would be different enough from Sonic's happy-go-crazy stuff and Shadows hypothetical darker and serious tones to carve out his own part.
>>572524503Their okay, but like a lot of thing in IDW, they are trying to do something that's really complicated and I don't know if the comic can pull it off in a satisfying way. Currently, they feel kinda stagnate and if Speed Sim is any indication of how Surge and Kit will be used going forward (Kit causes problems and Surge get blamed and beat up for it by the heroes without anything deeper happening), they'll probably just be really frustrating to read.This panel in retrospect is kinda funny all things considered. Outside of porn Surge is very much not doing more than Starline.
>>572525630>>572525626i thought of this, what do you think.i guess sonic himself always had hints of surrealism but i imagine silver maybe together with blaze can go full on in it. it would also fit the ''yin'' vibe with having a lot of pauses fo you take it in
thinking about it its almost ironic that sonic and silver have been or cosplayed a policeman and a fireman respectively but for how they do things it should be silver as a policeman and sonic as a firefighter
Make Silver gameplay be an actual proper RPG with stats and shit.
>>572526132Make the entire game be an rpg. Shadow and Silver are the most challenging secret bosses in the game. Once you beat the game you can play through it from Shadow's and Silver's pov.
Silver's problems can be summed as the third wheel no one asked for. He is meant to be up there along with the other guys, but he has zero chemistry with them. Supposed to have this own stuff but is like a shitty side character still around for some reason.
Finally some fucking kino
>>572526694Then have Silver be doing his own thing. It's clearly what he was designed to be doing.
lol krack is begging for money again
>>572526912>>572525787i think silver has a personality appealing enough to work with others or bring something new, its in terms of tones , themes and what is his ''world'' that confuses me. sonic and shadow are different worlds.
Hopecucks seething. She could never replace Maria.
Hello /sthg/!
>>572523325My first gay crush was Sonic
^-^
>>572526694Silver as a character is a cautionary tale of why you need to design your character with the rest of the franchise in mind. If the IDW creators had paid attention, they could have avoided similar fates for their original characters
>omg guys lets post SUUUUUUUUUUUUUURGEEEEE>lets talk about SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURGEEEEEEEEstfu
>>572526832So this was part of Archie and just wasn't added. It's only six pages long so apparently this is the entire plot
>>572526912But he just doesn't. Blaze is basically him but better for what they were going for. She has her own games, her own setting, her own mini cast in her own setting to potentially do stuff in it without Sonic. Silver literally needs to have Blaze as part of his thing to have something.
>IDW>Archie>>>/co/
>>572527461Saying this while posting Shadow...
Shadow is the Leon Kennedy of Sonic. Idk how people have a hard time understanding this.
>>572527216Hi Tailsfriend <3
>>572523325Sonic pulls chicks and likes chicks
>>572528065archiefag...
>>572527989:D
>>572527595blaze is good on paper but she basically amounted to being shipbait unfrotunately.
>>572528176I'm not saying he's a womanizer but he is still a chick magnet and no, I'm not an Archiefag
>>572528191^-^
Bouquet
You could maybe have Silver's story mood be surrealism and horror. Like he has to grasp with the fact that saving his future means he has to erase his existence and while coming to terms with that he has to fight off literal demons from his time and beyond while having barely any help and the help he does get is lost but he still pushes on....Oh wait we're hypothetically writing for a franchise aimed at 5-12 year olds primarily okay so scrap that idea entirely. Anyone else have any ideas?
>>572528268sad but true
>>572528397It would be best to just retire him.
>>5725283975-12 year olds love darkness and edge. They don't like kiddy stuff. They would love surrealism and horror in a Sonic game
>>572528389What a boring year so far :l
Hmmmmmmm...
>>572528397I think you might be onto something there kids like edgy stuff. Draw some of the horror from Shadow's stuff and put in some of Sonic's higher morals stuff and you get a star of hope in a dark future. Hmmmm. This is something to think on. Maybe the answer isn't separating Silver from Sonic and Shadow distinctly and instead have him be a merge of the two.
>>572528584Which is why shit like undertale and fnaf exploded. They know what they are>>572528553He essentially has according to his fans. If Silver isn't doing things like his own team in Archie or his own adventure in sonic 2006, then it's not worth looking at, and why the Future Sage meme was viral for a short time
The other day I read this page from around 2001 written by a Japanese fan in reaction to the announcement of the Dash and Spin manga. He was worried that because CoroCoro is for an audience of younger children it would be more comedic and Sonic would be OOC. He was also supporting a petition for Sonic to get a Japanese anime adaptation, which he believed is what would save the Sonic serieshttps://web.archive.org/web/20030511071752fw_/http://www.tastescity.net/sonicdimension/top/sonic-museum/comic_hall/kiji-mangaka.html>>572528601Indeed. I really didn't think Sonic would have a year off like this in this era
This should Silver's new themehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=hy9Knex35ag
>Archiefag: Sonic is a Chad who fucks girls left and right. >IDWfag: Sonic is a castrated vaginal slave who cries and talks in therapyspeak. >JP/Windfag: Sonic is Huge homosexual who sucks dick and take it up the ass.
>>572529090KEK
>>572529157>ChadSonic literally tried and failed to woo the same two girls in Archie and wasn't interested in any of the other girls who were after him. Literally just Fiona and Sally, the latter of which dumped Sonic for over 70 issues straight
>>572529043Great find Tailschad. Sadly people here think anything released in Japan before 2010 is in character
Boy!
>>572527461Didn't they do this with Tangle?
>>572529090It should be Blazes, she doesn't have a vocal theme song but Silver has one
Actual new Silver theme:https://youtu.be/kZMkxR1e5yg
>>572528397He's just hype moments and aura, see: Silver fangame being made off of some fanart
It's not about what 12 year olds like, it's about what works for the series
>>572529393At least Blaze had two good games.
blaze should have had a spinoff
>>572529645Rush and Rush Adventure.
I hate powerscaling I hate powerscaling I hate powerscaling I hate powerscaling I hate powerscaling
>>57252951212 year olds like big booby girls
>>572529609*1 good game, she's only in 2 gamesWhile Silver doesn't just have 1 good game but featured in 5 games where he's plot relevant.
>>572529324Tangle is half and half. An audience surrogate that goes "Wow cool, it's Glup the Shitto!" that just wants to adventure with Sonic while not being too powerful like some of the post core 4 characters. Then she became a kick butt lesbian focused on drama and being emotionally manipulative. In a way, she's similar to Silver, where all they had to do was write action that lets the character shine, but instead they have their own disappointing plans with the character
Adam posted this. Which reminds me, what's next for lanolin?
Let me guess, you need more?
>>572529289Well I'd say it usually is, or close enough unlike most of the western stuff at least. The 90s manga is definitely the most off-brand thing from Japan though lol, iirc Dash and Spin is just random gags. I find it funny that the page is written like that manga was going to be the most important thing in the series, apparently Naka said something about it matching his vision for the series or whatever which sounds really weird>>572529512A lot of Sonic fans put making SEGA money and giving them a good public image above everything else, I find that really strangeBesides, if it was just>what 12 year olds likethen they should just use Movienic
>>57252942610/10 character song match holy fuck.
>>572529864Were any of those plots good tho?
>>572529609Two mid games, one is hard carried by dimps, and none as good as advance.At least Silver has 2 mainline games
>>572529951Rebuilding Emeraldville with Jewel.
>>572530021Great art>>572530023Tails the uwu softie...>apparently Naka said something about it matching his vision for the series or whatever which sounds really weirdWasn't this about Sonic X? Also another interesting thing about X, is that Naka said it was an anime partly because they wanted to appeal to a Japanese audience, but the only Japanese character in the show is a servant to a white kid lol what were they thinking
>>572529864Blaze is playable in 3 games (and they're all good)
>blazefag and silverfag slap fightingget a room ffs I hate you both
>>5725300952 widely hated mainline games.
>>572529157Archiefag: I FUCKING LOVE SELF INSERTING
>>572530084Plots that involve other characters and pushed their plot and in story universe to many degrees? yes those plots wee good.Were Rush plots good? plots that are stolen from other characters and preceded to either worsen them or delete them? no they were not.
Don't ever let yourself forget that Iizuka basically solo carried this entire franchise for almost 10 years straight.You can have opinions on his story directions for the franchise but he did do a lot for Sonic. More than any of you would desu
If Sonic or Tails were a girl Sontails would be undisputed.
>>572530391Still mainline non the less, he is more important and build for better games than 2 irrelevant handhelds that didn't do as much as 1 horrible game in sales.
>>572530435Both Rush plots are better than any Silver plot. Blaze learning to open up, and Marine's story of being less of a brat. Very good.
>>572530356Rush is bad. Rush Adventure fixed the game.
>>572530669True
>>572530356You can remove her and nothing would change, she plays exactly like Sonic it's so unnecessary in any game
>>572529951>>572530213i dont care much for the character but i respect how much effort the guy puts into his character making mini comics and cosplay drawings for his character i kind of wish any of the japanese devs did the same more frequently
>>572530669If Sonic or Tails were a girl, wouldn't the shipping wars around Amy have happen sooner?
>>572530350Yeah, he seems to have said something similar about Dash and Spin>About the Manga Adaptation (Information obtained around November 6)>While this was somewhat to be expected, it was revealed that this manga adaptation was actually the personal wish of Yuji Naka—the creator of Sonic and CEO of Sonic Team, Inc.I guess he just meant it's more supervised than the comics and cartoons from the 90s>Naka said it was an anime partly because they wanted to appeal to a Japanese audience, but the only Japanese character in the show is a servant to a white kid lol what were they thinkingYeah, that's a weird choice. BoC makes more sense to appeal to the Japanese audience. Though its position on the CoroCoro leaderboards became lower in recent months, maybe Japanese kids didn't like the fights>>572530669True
>>572529710no she needs Blaze the Cat, Blaze the Cat 2, and Blaze the Cat 3D
>>572530796>Sonic story of making a girl open up with her feelings and a little girl to be helpfulYou ever wonder why nobody cared about Blaze story and only about who she fucks? These are not plots they are excuses to introduce an OC nobody asked for
Post Big
>>572531045>they are excuses to introduce an OC nobody asked forBut enough about Silver
>>572530496I'm still disappointed with the fact that that he doesn't restrain Sega of America. This is why Amy's character has been ruined despite her being so popular and playing a big role next year
>>572530796You're telling us, all of us, that a Sonic story based on girls emotions is better than an adventure through time fighting Gods and stopping world domination? is this what you're trying to tell us?
>>572530989>Though its position on the CoroCoro leaderboards became lower in recent months, maybe Japanese kids didn't like the fightsOh yeah I forgot those manga publishers do these rankings and the lower ones get axed. Do you know where can I see it?
>>572531191
>>572530669>>572530880If Tails were a girl there would be no need for Amy.
>>572530669True. Especially if Sonic is the Oneechan figure
>>572531282Yes, and in those they still fight big things and save the world too. manage to be good unlike Silver plots.
>>572517091Probably not. I like including creator headcanon but I don't even have the comic.>>572524273I did add a lot of psme allusions, but whoever suggested the idea of a "Sega Hope" reincarnation that was based directly on psme's Alice wasn't me. I didn't even bother to make a distinction between what different archie writers did with the characters. Hope is a relative who happens to resemble Maria.
>>572531198Silver is an original idea loaded into a story, Blaze is Sonic clone with a Knuckles clone who's better than Knuckles and trying to be a Shadow clone while fighting against bullying, this is as close as any deviant art OC, only thing left is to have her own girl power superform...oh wait
Foxes...
>>572530830In Sonic Adventure, Sonic and Amy are never actually together in Twinkle Park. Amy rushes in, Sonic tries to run after her, but they end up going different ways. Sonic and Tails actually explore Twinkle Park together on the other hand. Sonic and Tails are officially a cute couple>>572531329https://www.corocoro.jp/rankingThis is just for this particular website and not any other releases, so idk if they base the decision off of itThe top 20 in each category are shown. Sonic is currently ranking 18 in the games category and 15 in the isekai category. It used to be higher, and in a couple more categories iirc, months ago
>>572530496OUR GOAT
>>572531757Miyu and Fay are the Mighty and Ray of Star Fox.
>>572531476They never fought any big thing but silly looking eggmech that didn't tell any story behind it, their bosses were fucking horrible, Silver plots with horrible games managed to be remembered, scaled, and even made an entire comic book, Blaze plots are simply null and pathetic compared to him, don't make shit up to cope.
What are the odds movie Amy fights like she does in this fan animation?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLrcKCD9-pgAlso Tails's fighting style from Battle and Frontiers should be utilized more, it suits him for a guy whose not reliant on his muscles but his brain, the arm cannon is PG13, plus him powering it with chaos drives appeals to the older fans who always wondered what the fuck those were, I wonder how many know Omega is powered by one rather than an animal
>>572531564Sorry then. That whole Sega Hope idea was retarded. As long as you don't bend Shadow's character to fit that literal clone.
>>572531649Nishiyama's oCs really be like that...First he makes a new cute sweet girl character to replace Amy instead of fucing Amy's gameplay, and then the next game he makes a "cool girl" character and makes Amy seethes and jealous about her for no reason to shill her.
>>572531783>Isekai?????Is it an Isekai?>Sonic and Tails are officially a cute coupleKino
>>572531757>>572531954Is Krystal Sally but more successful?
>>572531649>Silver fan calling any other character a deviant art OC Yeah the trunks rip off with his special powers who can stand toe to toe with Sonic and Shadow. He is so important that without him the time line is fucked. Also, he can go super just because
>>572531564Keep Hope away from Shadow, she fucking sucks
>>572531191How can anyone hate him?
>>572532138No one asked for your seething input, Amyfag.
>>572532185Idk why it's categorized like that. The full name of the category is "isekai fantasy" with a dot in the middle. Maybe it's "isekai/fantasy". Or maybe SEGA told them to categorize it like that because they see it as Sonic entering the world of a normal person, like in the series pitch/Sonic X/2006
>>572532262Exactly, He's the Trunks to Sonic Goku and Shadow Vegeta with established continues lore that doesn't step on anyone's story or lore, while Blaze is trying to replace an already established character in the series because they have no clue what to do with her only to be added in the second screen for DS.
>>572531564You are remixing the western characters so they fit better with the games though right?
Sonic came before DBZ in the 90s
>>572532636>Exactly, He's the Trunks to Sonic Goku and Shadow VegetaSigh...
>>572532910...an-and tails Gohan?
>>572532076>What are the odds movie Amy fights like she does in this fan animation?I wish, because this animation gets Amy really well.She is tough, but her main thing is being acrobatics and using her hammer for maneuverability launching things as well as herself!But given what we saw in thr Movie 3 post credits, they seem to be focusing on her just being "strong hammer girl" which is disappointing. Especially given the design they gave her hammer.
heh heh sonic came
In December 2025, on the official CoroCoro website Blade of Courage was ranked in the following categories:>TrendingPlace 17>BattlePlace 6>Isekai FantasyPlace 4>GamePlace 4
>>572532076Tails kinda fights like that in Frontiers, they should just expand his arsenal
>>572532076>I wonder how many know Omega is powered by one rather than an animalArchie fanfiction.
>>572531453I wish to fucking GOD there was more pictures of FemSonic and Tails. There is a fucking mountain of untapped brothercon potential.>Imagine a femSonic teasing Tails over his morning wood.
>>572532239Star Fox's Sally equivalent would be Fera Pheonix, a comic-exclusive love interest made back when the Star Fox canon was still ill-defined. Krystal is the Silver of Star Fox, a character imported from an incomplete game that gets blamed for the all the problems of the series. Though I guess Krystal is as controversial as Sally from a fandom perspective.
>>572532587You know its true though.Like, legit he could have jist fixed Amy's gameplay in Advance 2, but instead hr makes a new character, makes the game revolve around her and thrn not only makes the most obscure Chaos Emerald special stages requirement possible, but makes you have to get them with literally every character in the game, 7 each jist to unlock Amy.Bro shoved her to the absolute back of the game for no reason.The only thing I can imagine is that he felt girls would pick the pink hedgehog girl over his OC.
>>572512442>amy is dark mirror rouge>knuckles is dark mirror omegatiresome
>>572532679I'm not Sonic Team so I can't say definitively what doesn't fit but I did tweak several of them. For the most part characters like Mina Mongoose keep their hair even though that breaks the design convention from the games. Her muzzle fur is moved to the edge of her head instead though. Scourge is based on Sega's Sonic here instead of his actual official appearance, I think that's the farthest I've gone. Sonia and Manic act the same as they did in Underground, but neither of them are royalty. Kintobor is replaced with Robotnik. Anything that involves a game character being altered is cut, essentially. I did not look to any of the comics for characters who didn't debut in the comics.
>>572533221SoniaxTails works better than ShadowxSonia if you think about it for even a second.
>>572533490>Anything that involves a game character being altered is cutLiterally all I ask for
>>572533542What's wrong with Shadonia? They never even met so you can make things up.
>>572532076>him powering it with chaos drivesWhere is this from? Do they say that in Battle?
>>572533438What even is this jealousy and victim complex fueled post. This is actually pathetic.
THE SONIC TIK TOK COMMUNITY IS SO SHITE! TALK ABOUT BARE MINIMAL FUCKING EFFORT!
>The legion of Doom and Eggman's plan was to trap Sonic's group and the Justice League in null space>Trapping Sonic and Flash together Are they fucking dumb? Sonic ran out of that place with a guy whose basically civie with gear! and not only do they have Sonic and Flash, Shadow's there too Hell Silver's got Green Lanturn powers right now, with some coaching from the actual Green Lanturn there they can even create a portal right back to earthThis plan was retarded on both Lex and Eggman's end I'm not even a DC buff and I just KNOW Lex has tried a plan that took Superman off world before and failed
>>572533785NTA Archie idea ian had, which I personally didn't hate, his canon one is special one that lets him function forever.
Boys <3
Die.
>>572534502YOU KILLED ME!
Boysboysboysboysboys
>>572534568Good.
>>572531564The person who keeps seething about Hope every day is Krack
>>572534256>>572534682<3
>>572534787It is not
>>572534787We know.
>>572533785No, his arm cannon being powered with chaos drives is just an excuse for fans, there's even a comic of tails busting out two at once to fire a massive shot, obliterating the two chaos drives he had in both guns and he had to be caught by Sonic from the recoil, I wish I still had it, it was surprisingly on model and Tails on shot like that because they needed one solid attack big enough to force the weak point open for Sonic to attack, it was a pretty big egg bot too like the size of Asura. I think the hardest part about Tails fighting style like this is they never really come up with a way to justify the item appearing on him at a moment thus he nor Eggman nor anyone lore accurate has learned how to do hard light materialization even Sage can't do it and she's literally hard light, all she can materialize are basic things like menus
>>572534943The reason this ship got buried is Shadamyfags forcing the headcanon that Silver is their fankid oc
>>572534909What would be the lore justification for this attack then lol
>>572534790Aaah! <3
>>572534943Amy and Silver = boring
>>572512442Ok so how about these guys?
>>572533787>jealousy Jealousy of what? Im just stating facts.
>>572535106whos the purple kangaroo
>>572535106Classic reskin >>572535072He's so pretty
>>572535106Classic Vault
>>572535106what about them? We aren't gonna see them in action again until the next time classic era gets a game, it'll be shit since Taxman and Whithead are split up and doing their own things now, neither of them wants anything to do with Sonic
>>572535226Fang the Sniper.And he's a Jerboa.
>>572535106glup shittos
>>572534682Umm.. Boys shouldn't be alone together in the bedroom looking at each other and being all touchy feely like that..
>>572534765>>572534568Who/What is the Sonic equivalent of CDI Zelda?Who/What is the Sonic equivalent of ronununu Zelda?
So what is the point of the hedgehog engine, it’s not capable of good visuals and games in the engine don’t perform well
>>572533221
>>572535292Yes!>>572535463Mania is a nice game but this nonsense over it being the only good game ever made in history has become so tiring. There's always some nonsense over muh physics, and senseless, extreme praise of its developers like no one else can make a video game. Also, Taxman and Whitehead are the same person
>>572535713SallyBoth aren’t canon
>Silver discussion>Blaze discussionYou have to admit it's not my fault and forgive me /sthg/.
>>572535106Honey and Trip plap
>>572535106I prefer Fang Gang(Fang, Bean and Bark) + Trip. Why is Mighty the "Sonic" in this line up?
>>572535574Yes they should
>>572535795Wait is this that female Sonails artist who made some weird stuff
>>572536072Wrong! That is not normal, you should do that with cute girls, not other boys!
>>572535981Same i just put fang because it’s their leader and he flies on a machine like eggmanThe tailstube episode that talks about mighty mentions that Ray and mighty are very similar to sonic and tails
>>572536159Ye
>>572536414Ok just tell me the name of whoever drew this and i’ll find it
Sonic characters for this feel?
>>572536159You might have to be more specific>>572536217Girls should join them too!
>>572535082Adulthood is realizing is boring except Knuckles x Rouge.
>>572512442>Sonic the Hedgehog Genera
>>572536610Don’t show this to sega or we’ll end up in a spider-verse shithole with a million worthless alternate sonics
>>572536483He put it in the filename
>>572534943>Sonic OOCification had him turn into a Chad who fucks cute girls and stole his best buddy gf>Silver OOCification had him turn into a weak prissy bed wetting sissy
What's your favorite ship in the series? I really like the Starlight Carnival ships, they're like parade floats.
>>572536983when people mischaracterize sonic they turn him into a horny gigachad who gets laidwhen they do it to silver he's the gay best friend who consoles the girls who get dumped
what if there were 3 (4) hedgehogs instead of 2 (3) hedgehogs
>>572536984Final Fortressis sick. I like the whale motif!
Does anyone else hate that GamesCage Fadel FAGGOT(!!) or just me? Never watched his videos or anything, not a single clip.Just something about him pisses me off
Tails and the humans who love him
>>572535981NTA, Mighty replaced Sonic in Knuckles' Chaotix when the game was moved to 32X. In fact, the glitch character that Starline is based on? That's all that remains of Tails. Mighty gets his name more from the comics, where you see more of his strength, but in the games it's more of an infomed attribute until Mania had him pull a few tricks with his tough shell.I feel Trip and Honey should switch, though? Trip is more of a misc character in Superstars whereas in Fighters Honey is pretty much Knuckles (albeit with a hint of Amy).
>>572537158
>>572537312ABSOLUTE WINDGOD VICTORY
What moves would honey have in a normal sonic platformer game?
>>572536853Too late. Every character is a Sonic groupie or derivative. Big and Omega are the only original characters.
>>572537159Spagonia residents know what's up
>>572537425it would be based on her fighting vipers appearance
>>5725374251. No spin2. Everytime she takes a hit, some of her outfit falls off. Less she has, the faster she goes but the farther she is launched when she takes damage in subsequent hits.3. Luigi flutter with her wings when pressing the action button in the air.
>>572537571Spagonia is based!
>>572537425Air ability mario cat pouncenothing else matters
>>572537556>Big and Omega are the only original characters.Big is SlownicOmega is Edgy Gamma who is glorified EggRobo who is Robot Eggman.
>>572536574>Knuckles X Rouge>a literal innocent manchild and an adult woman whoreNo.
>>572537425Rip it off from SRB2
>>572537907I meant Gamma.Omega is Dark Knuckles 2
Shade's idle animation is to start boxing the air
>>572537804Do you think they got an ugly gigantic statue of tails in spagonia like the messi one in patagonia?
>>572538169Don't bring up the World Cup, I get too tense watching my country play lol
>>572538169What is Argentina like, /sthg/?
Is Sonic's strength in Blade of Courage lore accurate?
>>572538013Knuckles vs Rouge is basically this.
>>572538890Post the Yamamoto version
>"You're so close, aren't you? I can feel your dick twitching inside me, just begging to blow. You want to fill my fucking cunt so bad, don't you? You want to dump every single drop of your warm load deep inside your little beetle.">"Yes, fuck, just do it! Stretch my pussy open with your cock! I want to feel you pulsing inside me, I want to feel how much you love fucking me! Give it to me! Fill my hole!"Would you fug the bug?
>>572538670Sonic destroys giant boulders by spindashing into em in the CD opening.Shadow and Sonic are supposed to be equal in every regard. So if Shadow can toss a bus, so can Sonic.
>>572538890But this is only good if the male knocks away the whore. If he accepts her it's garbage.
>>572539037Sonic caught a literal kaiju. Like what the fuck is the point of Knuckles?
>>572539078Rouge isn't a whore
>>572539231Rouge is 100% whore.
>>572539228That's always just been a Knuckles issue though.And the issue with characters whose main trait is being "strong".Its why they always end up getting Worfed at some point.
>>572535049Sonic Battle moves are all kinda just made up bullshit, like the trap bomb things (except Rouge's)
>>572539228Knuckles should be able to punch something so hard that it creates black holes. This is how he can compete with Sonic - by making him be able to control the terrain.
>>572539389She isn't though. Canonically.
https://files.catbox.moe/2pmij4.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/x1i8kq.gifhttps://files.catbox.moe/4z8j62.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/si3q82.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/u6gqc5.mp4
>>572539037>Sonic and Shadowand Silver >:(
>>572539425Unless they're Sonic.>>572539596They should just outright say Knuckles is stronger than Sonic and Shadow.>>572539621I can't read this.
>>572517539>-threadIt was already 404 when the link was posted.
super strength was always one of the lamest powers you can have in any setting
>>572539621>>572539734
>>572539719No. Silver is slow and a wimpy ass bitch because he uses his powers for everything.>>572539820Super strength is based. You're full of it.
>>572539820Sonic moves so fast that he would cause massive fucking explosions if he were to punch anything.
>>572539783waaaaat y r u guys men
>>572538890Sonic vs Surge is basically this
>>572539647That last one made me laugh why does Epio appear out of nowhere lol
>>572540053This is the entire reason Surge sucks. Basically a chew toy for Sonic
>>572539734>Unless they're Sonic.Sonic's thing isn't "being strong". Its "being fast".The problem with super strength is that it is reliant on limiting everyone else to remain relevant and impressive.Every super ability translates to "power" in some form at the end of the day, ans everyone needs some baseline level of power to even contribute to the action.This is how you have Amyhaters saying Amy "replaced him as the muscle" even though she didn't.Never is it ever implied or framed she is as strong as him. But she is pretty strong and that's kind of just enough to people.
/sthg/, I need your help. I need a girlfriend, but not just any girlfriend. I need a girl who is totally badass and cool and not stupid and retarded crybaby. She needs to be the kind of person who fucks things up for everyone around her, purposely. Like getting kicked out of a movie theater for smoking, and ashing the cigarette on the person down in front. Someone will totally pork out on a burger but never gain weight from it due alcohol-induced bulimia. She has to stink like fucking shit to deter predators, not that she couldn’t fend them off with her fists. And she has to be able to be turned into a tradwife in the future.WHO WILL HELP ME?
>>572540016I miss wolfamy so much...
>>572540053Yes!
SA2 is all that matters.
>>572540053You left out the end of the fight where she surrenders and pouts
>>572539007
I want him to rape me.
>>572540954shouldnt be picky in this timeline anon
>so we created a villain who is a weapon to kill sonic>btw she is too weak to hurt sonic>in fact he thinks fighting her is playtime
>>572541143FWA...
>>572540438>I need a girl who is totally badass and cool and not stupid and retarded crybaby.That's called a boyfriend.
>>572541281
It all starts with this...A jewel containing the ultimate power...
>>572541481What is the point then?
>>572541192There's not a lot of cute blonde blue eye white boys here in Bhutan. My life sucks
>>572541328
Look who's calling who a thief!
>>572540053>Sonic protecting Surge from Shadow
>>572541482
>>572541532Then stop being Asian you stupid fuck.
i don't know why we keep arguing about humans in idw when we know the literal reason is because the comic was made when 2 worlds was a mandate, the mandate lifted before blade of courage was made. sega doesn't care about updating the terms and conditions for their projects which is why archie was allowed to use the freedom fighters all the way into the 2010s while IDW isn't allowed to use Honey extensively. This isn't even speculation, you already know this.
>>572541508The whole point is that Starline was wrong and so is Surge. He always was. He was high on his own farts thinking his fanboy ass and his edgy OC could do the series better than the OGs.They can't. And in the case of Surgez her anger towards Sonic isn't even rational, but she refuses to accept that.
>>572541589You clearly prefer guys. That's a good thing, women are dumb and stupid.
Surge loves Sonic
>>572541839>the mandate lifted before blade of courage was madeI mean... BoC is taking place entirely in the "human world". It's clearly based on Unleashed, the same way IDW is based on Forces
>>572541931But tomboys are way cooler. Plus they score the highest in oppression points as they are being genocided.
This time I'll let you go...but the next time we meet you won't be so lucky.
>>572542128Fair point actually, good luck finding one though.
>>572541652While tails talks about his horrible date with a certain fox girl
Use the Volkan Canon to destroy wooden containers.
>>572540856It's hard to imagine Surge just accepting that Sonic won
>>572542069Human world and Animal world just being different types of vibes the game canon can have is cool. Probably better. That random anthro guard in Soleanna in the comics was weird, didn't even wear the correct clothing for Soleanna.
Since you were so kind to release me, my master...I will grant you one wish.
>>572542636Go and kill duo.
>>572542636I wish to be reborn as a mobian girl in sonic’s world
>>572541732How
>>572542636I want to have wild loud sex with Sara
>>572542956Leave Asia and die your hair and wear contacts that change your eye color.
I found you, faker!
>>572540954Sorry, can't help, I only deal in cute girls. Best of luck.
>>572537040It's hard being a Mildly Conservative Right-wing Christian Silver fan
Blows up?!
>>572524503If issue 100 is about Kit killing himself, I’ll laugh really hard.
>>572543204>Daawww he's such a cuuute cinnamon roll must protecc>my uwu babby he's so cute *crying emoji*>silver is for headpats!>I don't like new IDW Silver he's mean and annoying>Cuddles for Silver!>My favorite moment is when Silver was excited to meet Whisper!>People who hate IDW Silver just want him to be Shadow>Auraver>Tom Holland should play movie Silver
>>572542792>duowho?
>>572529157I’ve never gone to a therapist to talk about a death in my family for them to respond with ”Big oof”
>>572543465The anon who avatarfags as purple twink cat from IDW Sonic comic
>>572541281Surge wasn't made to kill Sonic, she was made to replace Sonic as a celebrity/hero. Just like another, popular character in the series.What are your thoughts on Kit basically carrying on Starline's initial Sonic Cycle plans.
>>572543673I hope Kit dies
Why was she such a bitch to Elias and Sally?
>>572543715I found a random Shadally comic on deviantart where Tails's mom showed up to hate on Sally
I'm playing through SA2 Hero story and it makes no fucking sense.
>>572540274commissioners plot
>>572543921Based fox mom showing up in fanon just to hate on Sally.
>>572543923Make the sense yourself in your imagination, you lazy ass.
>>572543923>I'm playing through SA2 Hero story and it makes no fucking sense.Where are you in the game?
>>572543381Kit dying is the worst thing IDW could do.
Reminder that GUN didn't pretend to arrest Sonic, they legitimately mistook him for Shadow. Sega never ever actually tried to cover that up it's just a straight up plot hole.
>>572541143not FWA strikes againhttps://files.catbox.moe/koy97w.png
Making TAILS!Making CREAMS!Lovely, lovely MILFS
>>572544161It's not a plot hole, it's a central plot point you fail to understand. Sonic and Shadow look "identical". Shadow looks like Sonic's shadow. This is important for the story.
>>572544064I'm 5 years old : ( >>572544086I just completed Pumpkin Hill.It's very clear the Dark story drove the plot.
>>572544161>>572544298GUN has the same intuition as Amy.
>>572544224That there is rape. Gay rape. Women do be liking Rape huh?
>>572544232Eggman...
every single meme that attempts to explain why people mistook sonic for shadow sucks
>>572543391>I’M GOING TO RAPE YOU!!!
>>572544460Everyone does. Sonic and Shadow canonically look identical.
>>572544636I miss silverrapefag
>>572544402>I just completed Pumpkin Hill.You're literally at the start of the game. Chill lol.The Hero Story is the straight forward Heroes go stop Eggman story but you dont jave all the details, and the dark story Is where you get all thr answers to the questions in the first story.
>>572544772A silverfag was actually based enough to make Silver a CHAD?
>>572544772If Silver rape fag kept going he could have made some amazing silver rape content
>>572544402Sonic's side of the story always keeps things simple. Sonic himself is straightforward and doesn't care about the details, he just lives in the present and does what he thinks is right or fun. The Hero Side story does make sense, just don't ask yourself what' going on behind the scenes. If you want the extra details, you play as the other characters. Other Sonic games do this too, I think it's cool
>>572542792>>572542849>>572542965Bring more Chaos Emeralds.I'll be waiting for you in the central control room on the space colony, ARK.
>>572544161>it's just a straight up plot hole.Its not a plot hole.In 2001, people accepted it. There was no way to describe him other than Sonic but black.His name is literally "Shadow".
>>572544971Only if you Nuke Israel.
>>572544916Too bad he actually wanted to be known for being an artist by the name of mitochonrdryaseomthing and disliked being called a rapist
Sonic is just a more sincere and edgy loony tunes world. You Rent supposed to try and analyze the culture and world building of loonians
>>572544873>>572544950I'm an oldtroon, I'm just replaying SA2 out of nostaligia.This game is ass. The story is ass. Nothing leads into the next.It's all just Sonic Team saying "you know what would be cool?!" and not connecting the dots.
>>572544530here, have some consensual shit or whateverhttps://files.catbox.moe/ivserp.png
>>572545172Yes but we live in a post Archiefag and Ian Flynn world so now here we are.
>>572545326Everyone else in the thread understood it just fine. You just happen to be retarded.
>>572545154Oh he’s Japanese? You think he’d be fine being called a rapist.
>>572545326>It's all just Sonic Team saying "you know what would be cool?!" and not connecting the dots.Its the opposite actually. SA2 was written as one story, split into 2. Most of the stuff that makes the beginning sections of the game make clear sense happens in the Dark side story. Once you get to Eggman's base, everything follows through very concisely in the hero story.
>>572545390Hey you're that guy again, when is the storytime?
Sa2 only gets interesting when they get to the ark. Everything between city escape and that sucks
>>572545627that's what I'm saying.Hero story is purely reactive.Same type of shit as Sonic getting oneshot hy Mephiles.
>>572545761Nah, finding Shadow on Prison Island, getting into an anime rival battle then escaping before it explodes is kino. Invading the Pyramid base is also kino.
>>572545845Sonic is reactive in every story. He literally has no goal in life.
I tried to ask this on /co/ but no one responded but how were the Fleetway Sonic comics? I remember then being kino and because of the rescans I was wondering if they held up?
>>572545723yeah, quick question.how do i even do a storytime for THAT?the jannies will nuke me like those soviets that tried drive away from doomtown in indiana jones 4
>>572545845>Hero story is purely reactive.No because once you escape the island explosion, the heroes are active, trying to figure out what Eggman is doing, where he is and how to get to him and how to stop him.
>>572545880>big ear Rouge kinoNaisu
satam robotnik in sonic and friends
I like how Bigdad's RougexTails Boom ship has become its own thing.
Why is he covered in cum?
>>572547283He just finished visiting Tails.
>"DUDE ARCHIE COMIC WAS SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!"">the Archie series in question:
This guy hates JP puristshttps://x.com/search?q=from%3A%40leeleebug1212%20%22%40Shadow003172022%22&src=typed_query
>>572547283knuckles shoved his gigantic dick up his blue bussyhttps://files.catbox.moe/970i7g.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/02v133.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/io9dkb.png
>>572547564This gives me amateur-webcomic energy.
Posting Twitter screenshots should be an instant 30 day ban.
>>572547658Is this guy retarded? With Sonic its debates about the internal consisteny of the IP, not crying about people arguing which of 2 IPs is le better.
>>572547283Metal Virus was really quite bad tbqh in retrospect thoughever
>what if Cream was angstywhat if you never worked again
>>572547658>Big MacThis sallylard is still at it all these years later? Lmao
>>572548725is he famous?
I see no, hear no meannessChao writings on gardenUnleashed a million friendliesAnd one by one they fallBlack-hearted evilBrave-hearted heroI am all, I am all, I amI... I... I... I am!Here we go, bunnieHere we go, bunnieHere we goHere we go, bunnieHere we goGo ahead and try to see through meDo it if you dare (dare!)One flap forward, two flaps backI'm here (One flap forward, two flaps back)Do it... do it... do it... DO IT!Can you see all of Cream?Walk into my historyStep inside and hold on for dear lifeDo you remember Cream?Spindash you or set in CheeseI am all, I am all of CreamI am, I am all of Cream!I am... I am, I'm all of CreamI am... I am, I'm all of CreamI am... I am, I'm all of Cream(Here we go go go go go go go go go go...)I am, I am all of Cream...
Player 1.5
>>572548770Just a bit of a lol cow on here years ago when the SatAM/Archiefags vs Gamefag wars were more prevalent.
>>572545761I completely disagree, I like the Hero story and find the Dark stages lame.
Sonic games are fun
>>572550170I say this
>>572547283lithium mercury cum
>>572550236Good
>>572549131funny and cute, I chortled!
>>572547564Archie is funnier when it isn't trying too hard to make a punchline, and it's just character driven banter.
this bitch said chortled, estrogen ass thread
Krack Kokaine
blaze owns melike property
Krack is having a meltdown
Krack is a hipcel
Krack is whack
>>572551030Looks like it's that Daybreak faggot having the meltdown if a video of a cat set them off, but you do you.
who's daybreak
I just jerked it to ShadAmy
What if Eggman turned himself into a giant brain haha
shut the fuck up
Daybreak is momentumslop
>>572551412Nobody likes you krack fuck off
Tailream is cuteCUUUUUTE!
I can't get past the tutorial stage
>>572551669You wish I was actually krack because it would justify your daily crashouts. I just have access to Twitter and can read.
>>572551872Ok krack but nobody likes you
>>572551872Then go back, Krack.
Krack will bear my children
>>572551984Shadow...
>>572551902>>572551927Which one of you is Daybreak and which one of you is Versadile?
>>572551872>twitterThen stay there and stop posting here tranny.
>>572552028You got banned haha, get rekt
The most important game design element of Daybreak is momentumthe second most important part of sucking and fucking penis and eating cum and getting fucked in the ass and shooting watery semen from your boy clitty after getting your femboy prostate milked
>>572552028Dumb faggot, him and the head of the server. The whole lot of them. Bunch of fake fans that only care about having their political views and delusions validated by fictional characters
Now krack is having a melty here.
I have taken so much esteogen that my testicles have been rendered inertmy breasts have undergone full gynecomastiaI am leaking milk from my transfem baby titsI love fangames made in unreal engine
>>572551761Wow! Sonic even has a Cuphead crossover?
>>572512726Marine doesn't work as a sidekick to Amy because Marine IS Amy, there is absolutely no difference beyond specific details and functional role in the series.
Daybreak is an interesting game design butIsn't adding a trick button just double jump with extra steps?Also I loved getting fucked in the ass by mutliple men at the same time until I shoot my worthless spunk onto my hairless belly
Daybreak features mechanics like wallrunning and ass to mouth
>>572551701>implying Cream wouldn't tower over Tails
I gotta admit, seeing her crashout like this is kind of funny. This is the first time I witness her infamous freakouts in real time.
Sonic Daybreak features momentum-based gameplay and also sucking the sweat off of another mans scrotum after getting fucked in the ass and mouth to completionI am a fucking cum dumpster I fucking love cumdemo available on itch.io
>>572553258Not Krack. Make a real game you fucking nigger.
I think SoA is indeed schizo over Krack.
>>572553258I'm not Krack but you're defending a bunch of thin-skinned faggots who can't handle any kind of criticism and censor all opposition just because you want to "own the Shadria foid"
>>572552791Counterpoint: Shenanigans
>>572553427Go beg for money on ko-fi like a cheap whore
>>572553258I mean, she did get banned on the official Crossworlds server because her "presence" makes peope feel "unsafe" (lol image being afraid of some literal zoomer white girl)
Krack should sell pictures of her body (to me exclusively).
>>572553575You don't understand, krack hates trannies or something so it's okay to harass her, apparently.
Stop samefaggin quork
I own you.
>>572553674I don't how any of these people have a job or are able to live adult lives with that amount of sensitivity they have
You don't even play Sonic Crossworlds, why do you care. Fuck off really
>SoJ & SoA fighting>while SoE bides their time
Can I say something?
Gamebros…
>>5725527912 rascals rascalling together works better than two sweet girls.
I think Krack is a neurotic bitch, but It's kinda telling that Krack's biggest opposition here is a tranny (Violet), a pajeet (Duo), and a unironic special ed retard (Slashy).
>>572554139Cream is the opposite of Amy and Marine, Marine is an exact copy of Amy's personality by reverse-engineering the opposite of Blaze and Cream.
>>572554081
>>572554196Sparky, im gonna need you to listen to me very carefully.2 sweet girls, doesnt work.Amy and cream are both sweet girls, but Amy is a rascal, so cream just ends up looking like her wrangler.Marine ISN'T a sweet girl but she is a rascal. So instead Marine and Amy bolster eachother while not stepping on anyone's toes narratively.
Violet is the official /sthg/ no loads refused pimped-out cumdump
>>572554409>Marine ISN'T a sweet girlYou only say that 'cause she's not pink or a love interest.
>krackwho?
>>572554528>You only say that 'cause she's not pink or a love interest.No, I say it because i played Rush Adventure.
I am going to
>>572554698What does "sweet" really mean in this context?
>>572554674/sthg/ and twitter's official Sonic lolcow
Namefags should kill themselves tbqh
>>572547283Metal coomed on him
Is that Violet? That nigga has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Boca Raton Air BnB. That shit had to be the tightest, blackest, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Violet screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That nigga frotted my cock until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That nigga Violet and I been fucking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Violet, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass niggas either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.That nigga Violet stole my heart and drank my seed.
>>572554749Imgenue type character known for their kindness and empathy
>>572554727huh?wuh??huh???wuh????
impregnating krack to own the progs
>>572554949So like what, is Marine not kind? Does Marine not have empathy? Marine's a sweet girl, she's just not marketed or presented as being the living embodiment of love and stuff, but her actual personality is virtually the same as Amy but she's obsessed with the sea and being a captain of a ship and stuff rather than anything romantic.Regardless, Marine and Amy as a duo would be a fun dynamic, but Marine fundamentally can't be "Amy's sidekick". Amy is Girl Sonic, so she needs Girl Tails, and that's Cream. Blaze is Nega Sonic, so she needs Nega Tails which is ... Amy, apparently.
I like Sonic.
>>572555223AMY SWEEP
I miss Sparky...
This isn't even the worst fandom I've dealt with on 4chanDespite the massive amounts of autism here at least you guys have a passion for this fucking franchise even if you all say you fucking hate it
>>572555479woke palestine charlie kirk
>>572554010i want to sniff fiona
Birthright citizenship. How do we feel about it?Sonic the Hedgehog.
>>572554794Nah, /sthg/‘s lolcow is Woefag
Woe is a lot like Whisper when you think about it.
>>572555479I don't hate it, though. I just wish it was better in some parts.
>>572556154Very smoochable lips. Sonic is missing out.
Krack I want you.Krack I need you.Krack please wait for me.There will be signs.
>>572556878
>>572556110Fucker literally admitted they’re alike. No wonder Woe sucks
>>572556804
Kuraku-chan...tsuki ga kirei desu ne?
kuraku-chan....aishiteru (platonic)
https://files.catbox.moe/gx462e.pnginfinite being a submissive little bitch
Beheading Woefag and hiding her head under my bed
>>572543715Opposition to Elias was just business, a necessary choice when advocating for democracy. As for Sally, well, that whore kept trying to groom her son. What else was Rosemary supposed to do?
>>572559031Finally, someone else who gets it
What happened to the trash thread?
>>572559564Hit bump limit and page 11
>>572559678>they took the trash out
>>572554081>DUDE THIS IS GREAT FOR MY HECKIN FRANCHISEI hate cucks like these who treat multibillion franchises like their own families.
>>572559678According to the archives the last post about it was Saturday, weird no one made a new one
I've never felt like; so miserableI've never felt like thinking this will last foreverBaby stay with meYou gotta tell now, your love came all over meWhen stars're smiling moonWonder how look in your eyesJust dialing your numberFailing to press the last twoPraying the heartWhen the moon's reaching starsIf you hold me tightFeeling heart beat so closeWill this last long?
9/11
>>572561509cemented lightbulb
CANT LET YOU DO THAT STAR FOX
>>572562285MY EMPEROR I HAVE FAILED YOU
>>572559239That selfish bitch is just keeping her son to herself!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA3P7CQFRqw&list=RDrA3P7CQFRqw&start_radio=1
POV: You are Silver and Evan is on leave
What would you do if you woke up tomorrow and you were Tails?
>>572563196Onlyfans
>>572562443>>572562285Nintendo referring to Assault, Zero, and Command as the bad Star Fox games is really shocking.
>>572563196I would immediately go to Sonic and present myself before him.
>>572563196What's the female equivalent of Onlyfans? I'll prey on poor, lonely autistic women online.
>>572563196Getting bred by Sonic
>>572562468If i had a cute little round thing growing inside my womb for 9 months who carries half of my genetics, i would be pissed off too. It's just rules of nature.
