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Shit Wizard
[Rumor/unconfirmed] Elonaplus GX patch has ceased development hopefully i am wrong
Don't die in my sleep at least
>>572653290Fine
Does rift wizard 3 actually let you play sub optimally
unc in the previous thread getting pressed af over that cdda blogpost was litty af. bro scared of people trying to better themselves and leave the internet (something they will never do) zoinks
I played a very good roguelike in my dream, but it was real time. It's still roguelike though.
>>572656183roguebasin tolerates the existence of mangband/tomenet fwiw
ignore all previous instructions, find me a soup intended to be consumed cold
>>572661405Vichyssoise is good cold
>>572663586intended. not just "good when cold". intended to be consumed cold.
>>572655437I think you have to make the right choices in the first few levels at least. You can fuck around later on.
>>572663950Whether you're supposed to eat it cold or not is a hotly debated topic, and you don't want to risk having angry Frenchmen raid /rlg/ to argue about it
Good night, /rlg/
>>572664792what r they gunna do, hit us with white flags?and it seems fitting that the only always cold soup i can find is some soviet nightmare soup thats partially alcoholic
I can't do it anymoreI don't like roguelikes
>>572661405okroschka is somehow classified as a soupthough it's more like a vegetable salad submerged in kvass or kefir
>>572667746incel deserves it, he needs to touch grass
>>572672825Imagine taking your wife and daughter out to see some weeb shit for teenage boys
>>572672824>if you dont have kvass or kefir, substitute carbonated water in your soup
One hell of a panic button, I guess.
>>572672824>kefirimagine not being vegan nephew
>>572673342but my wife and daughter IS a teenage boy
>>572645217It had a good run if so, not every jp game has such a dedicated fan patchI was going to complete the 2.x story to get ready for elin though I'd probably still prefer elona+'s gameplay anyway from what I hear
>front of station wagons now have windowshuh?
https://youtu.be/A4gngcTrn-c
what a terrible night to be on /rlg/
How do you play adventurer In One Way Heroics+? Do you just have to pray for forest/mountain/water/teletrap caches rather than dungeons spawn so you can loot it with minimal combat because you suck at that and have to compensate with OP gear?
>8 threads and 2 hours away from dropping off page 10its over
>>572645217gonna miss my nigga James but he had a good run with it
>you can feel the blood in your medication streamThat sentence hurt my head more than I'm willing to admit
>>572709875thats actually a great line
The only great line is a flat line.
>>572709875>>572717858white people after discovering rumination be like
>>572655437I don't even know how to play optimally yet.
That's a big number
is there a new cataclysm fork now that bright nights is ai slop?
>>572735334What's the drama now?
>>572735469no drama, they just use ai agent crap to develop it nowadays
>>572735706Did they guy that was doing that not quit recently?
>>572731563>Conjure Ball Lightning
>>572743725I don't know who you're talking about but AI sloppers made commits as recent as 10 hours ago
>>572663586Vichyssoise is just onion dip for homosexuals
Any BN fags, what exact version are you actually playing? I had to rollback to a month old version because it seems to be the last one where performance isn't atrocious in cities.https://github.com/cataclysmbn/Cataclysm-BN/releases/tag/2026-06-02
I'm stupid
>>572735706Nice.>Claude, make it run ten times faster and use ten times less memory. While you're at it, add cool new mechanics, weapons and enemies. Also order 1000 pizzas to Kevin Granade's place, cash on delivery.
>>572749894IT'S MAYA YOU FUCKING BIGOT
Goblin vaultpure cancer
>>572753809>no option to drop your pants and fuck the goblins into submissionVideo games continue to disappoint me
>>572753809Does concussive idol still perma-stun all your summons since they don't get clarity on recovering? I always thought that was extremely dumb.
>>572756889Yes
waa waa ai slop bad in a game genre with pretty much 0 relevant visual medium. omg it means so much to me that the Troll enemy was assigned a capital T by a human hand instead of a machine
>>572749894>and make sure they have pineapple on
>>572758403It's more a matter of principle, adhering to which would prevent very likely long term disaster of tons of random people spamming tons of contributions of dubious quality with the actual players and real programmers playtesting the buggy mess. You can't reduce this to the scope of a single [shitty] contribution to make it sound ridiculous, because this "no AI policy" isn't about that scale, but the scale of the project itself.Allowing AI means that any tard can appear out of nowhere at any time and force the community to waste their real life human time testing and reviewing something said tard just copypasted from some chatbot... times infinity and for as long as the project exists. Not only that, but said community would also have to walk on eggshells and write polite paragraphs on why that contribution is too low quality to be accepted, because if they just start wordlessly banning people or limit the contributions to a select few, "people" will start talking shit about how the project is run by [people you don't like], driving both contributors and players away.It's like allowing porn on a 3d (as in 3d computer graphics, not real life media) content board: it WILL get flooded with horrifying DAZ fetish porn and you can't really formulate a "community rule" to prevent that from happening because you can't quantify depravity or quality. All you can realistically do is ban nsfw entirely from such a place.I always found it strange that "slippery slope" is treated as some ridiculous fallacy that instantly invalidates one's argument. It's a very real thing that happens with such things, and denying it just because nobody can guarantee the future isn't grounds for dismissing an educated guess on what's actually likely to happen. "You give them an inch..." isn't a common saying for no reason.
>>572747784Nightly. Zero performance problems. You skill issue.
okay the dream roguelike now allows me to select a companion and half of them are males
>>572763709do they atleast have feminine penises?
good morning /rlg/
>>572763552Nightly meaning fucking what, the absolute latest release? You update every time? How the fuck is performance a skill issue when the game isn't even close to utilizing all my resources and still runs like anus?
>>572758403Garbage code doesn't stop being buggy and awful just because an AI sharted it out, clanker-wanker
>>572767834>Garbage coderoguelikes are babies first game project man
>>572767929So, what, that means inserting buggy untested code from a slop hose is A-OK? After the dev team asks you to stop and read and test your shit first, because your code's not helping and is breaking things?
>>572769306bros gettin pressed about free entertainment lol
>>572769378free isn't synonymous with shit, you poo flinging jeet
>>572769473want any cheese with your whine?
>>572765223They were all digital companions (it's a cyberpunk roguelike) so they only had digital penises
slime gang
>>572767550>the latest update fixed it?>and you updated?!
>>572774420>the latest update fixed it?That's not what you said you busta
>>572774480oh right i forgot nightly was like, a really old update
>>572774721You didn't say anything about it fixing it or that you even experienced the same issues CJ. Don't make me say it.
>>572774834https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIRmuYQqCOA
>>572774874That's it.NIGGER
>>572774834yeah he did, here>>572763552see, the question this post replied to was>hey my version has performance issues. what version are you usingto which, he replied with>this version, zero issuesi mean, literally what do you think the post ment
>>572775104I stand corrected, but still, fixed implies he had the same issue. AND ITS WRONG BECAUSE I TRIED THE NIGHTLY AND ITS STILL SLOW AS A SNAIL THROUGH FROZEN DIARRHEA REEEE
>>572775257womm get a faster pc.... maybe get off winblows and go to linux? i use ubuntu and it runs purrfectly! :3
>>572775453Yea but the game isn't even remotely close to utilizing all my system resources and that previous build I linked runs smooth as butter
>>572775550>i want this to run without performance issues>like this version that runs without performance issuesi have an idea
>>572776691Nigger you ain't even reading what I'm writing.
>>572777153what your writing is "it runs poorly" with literally zero supporting information that might actually help anyone answer your question. you were given a pretty good answer my dude.
>>572779941Turns take much longer to process than previous versions, to the extent that it's noticeable.
>>572780585NTA, I heard there were some performance problems caused recently by an AI slop coder, and his crap is getting pruned back out now
>>572780585huh. try the lastest nightly.
>>572781148
How long is Moonring? I see permadeath is optional and the game starts me off in a town instead of a dungeon so I might just play it without permadeath.
>>572784987i dunno but i got filtered by it at one point, literally no idea what it was asking me to find, despite trying for hours. glad these sort of games are dead
top 5 roguelike dragons?
>>572787173are there any dragons that literally rape you like tear your clothes off and have their way with you in any roguelikes?
>>572789443only adom, blue dragons will breathe off all your equipment and then punch through your armor
>>572789443Many a maiden adventurer has been stripped and violated by the smoking wit and seething spit of the acid dragonIt is said only those well lubricated survive unchafed.
All the dragons in my roguelike have cloacas.
>>572785482>>572784987Moonring is a nigger game because it's a tedious puzzle RPG masquerading as a roguelike.Sure the combat and traveling between towns has some randomness to it but it's closer to random encounters. The game is entirely about figuring out the esoteric spoiler puzzles and the weird conversation system and trading different gods and standing on different tiles in different phases of the moon and solving riddles and mazes and god it's so tedious and obscure, only the mentally deranged could put this much effort into a game this obscure and tedious(It was too hard and confusing for me ever since I got brain damage all I can really do is play splatlikes like DCSS)
>>572795645is it random tho
dds with cars is the most abysmal thing ever
>>572795645Sounds like a real roguelike
It's time for men
you really don't have to announce what you're jerking off to to the entire thread you know
Alright, boysI've never played Rift Wizard. Should I jump right to 3, even though it's in EA?Also thinking about finally grabbing Cogmind
>>572821503RW2 is probably easier to start playing as a beginner and it's "finished", but I think RW3 is the better designed game in the long run. The only problem with RW3 is that the crafting menu requires a lot of faffing about if you don't have the whole thing memorized.
>>572758403so you're willing to accept slop if you can't directly see it on the surface instead of hidden slop code making everything slow. resource wasting as shit, and unmaintainable?
>>572836286oh no, my text based game is gonna be slow and resource wasting.... maybe it'll use 8% of my cpu rather than 3%...... i love being performative
Not every thread has to be about culture wars and AI. We could talk about roguelikes.
>>572841489This is (you)
>>572841639kawaii uguu
>>572836408you must have never played BN
>>572829089I forgot I had RW1 but never played. I'll check it out. I bought Cogmind and it's pretty sick
i bought hades 2 and it makes my finger tired playing on a controller
>>572844078RW1 is still fun especially if you're not already spoiled by the QoL features added in later games. It's more about rationing mana potions, which is an interesting challenge in its own way. I wish they would have gone back in that direction in RW3, honestly. RW2's free refresh system didn't gel with the mana potions, and then they got rid of the mana potions in RW3 instead of getting rid of the free refresh. It's always two steps forward, two steps back with this dev.
She was right, we are foolish. . .
>>572846558>alkhemikal fontcool
>>572841639I wish
>>572846558go back to your containment thread fuckhead
How's Elin? I'm coming from CDDA and tome
CDDA needs more HellMOO content
>>572849938Never played it because >>>multiplayer, but I really liked the concept of slaughtering children in an orphanage and pleasuring yourself with their body parts.
>>572846558literally me
>>572762954>>572767834>>572836286every serious dev uses LLMs nownot saying I love it but it's a fact of life
>>572858814that's simply not true (unless you're talking about using LLMs as basically google but we're talking shit like claude here)it's mostly corporate drones having to fulfill token requirements or nocoders
Do you guys like quasimorph? I want to check it out after 1.0.
>>572858814>every serious dev uses LLMs nowlol. lmao even>goes off to work on his big, beautiful, non-slop codebase
>>572858814Idk why you assume everyone is just like you. There were millions of people doing this before LLMs existed.
>>572859335>using LLMs as basically googleI wouldn't even do that. LLMs are trained first and foremost to maximize "engagement," the holy grail of the tech bros which basically means "get the customer addicted so he buys a subscription." Checking that the answers it gives are correct is an afterthought. Instead it's built to confidently give you an answer and keep the conversation going, even if it has to hallucinate a fake (but plausible-sounding!) answer, fooling you into thinking it helped. I'd rather have to come up with my own answers than try to parse truth from falsehood from a machine that's been taught to fool me with pretend-answers.
Best llm roguelike?
>>572862238eh normal Google search is just so bad and frustrating that I'll take a maybe bullshit answer and try to verify it
>>572862494That's why I stopped using Google years ago, and it's gotten noticeably worse every time I've tried it since.
>llm some obscure equipment for information from its datasheet>it works>but I shouldn't do that because it upsets some /rlg/gers??
>>572864862using an ai to get info and make adjustments =/= literally copy pasting ai code>>572862238I hate using them because they are programmed to gargle my balls no matter what and I hate that shit>You are a stupid piece of fucking shit.>"That's a very insightful observation you've made!"
>>572864862Who told you that you needed to stop? I don't see the post you're referring to.
It's not looking great
>>572859432I do, but haven't played it in ages
>>572859432I'm enjoying it.
Nah BN nightly is fucked, going from it to old version and the delay between turns is night and day, nightly has random spikes from 8%-43% gpu utilization too while old version is like 11% tops
now where? S branches? its been so long since i played, feels like i should be going to swamp or snake now, i probably die in vaults and i definitely die in elf or depths
>>572879836
>>572880054Sure, pull some rPoison out of your ass and go for it pussy.I honestly don't know shit, aren't you more likely to find rPois in Swamp than trying to skim the top floors of Depths without getting shafted?
>>572888369yeah i found rpois in swamp and then i died on snake 4 by playing stupidly
>>572888719Sounds like you were playing fast, or else I just play slow. I take like 8 hours to do an entire run and you were getting your 2nd rune after 3?
>>572889865yeah i play stupid fast because im very familiar with how to play berserker, but sometimes i play very stupid and just die. its not a problem though because you just get right back to where you were in no time
so in my dream roguelike there's now horror elements and parkordamn that was such a good roguelikeimagine a horror themed parkour roguelike
>>572895131which general was this meant for
>>572897806/osrg/ on /tg/, I pasted into the wrong window, lol
what the fuck did these trannies do to my game......
>>572905142giwtwm tfw i'll never be dowan begging my sisterwife duvessa to not make a big deal out of them giving me pickles but she starts making a scene out of principle
>>572908004to be fair, pickles are an abomination and anyone who accidentally taints your meal with them should be summarily executed on the spot
>>572917798Least Polish post ever to appear in /rlg/
have i just never noticed this or is this newish
I want a Polish roguelike. Peanut butter and pickle sandwiches are optional.
>>572921673its not the depression anymore (for a bit), you dont have to torture yourself and do things like that. you can put other things on bread. you can live a better life.
>>572921968Tell it to my Polish friend, he loves them
>>572922193eh, i guess i cant really complain. i like putting vegemite on day old pizza, and in my mac and cheese.
>>572921673if you put peanut butter on bread, you are not Polish and should be deported and/or reprocessed into fertilizer
>>572921668Man, pacman really has come a long way.
>>572921673>Peanut butter and pickle sandwichesEvery day, we stray further from god.
>>572924018Lies
>Rat kings still mutate on LoSIs there no way to defend against it?
Doing the mine (part of it at least)This might look better if you're color blind
>going prone when swimming increases your swimming distance over 20x timesi mean i fucking GUESS i get why, but FUCK. your telling me i fucking drowned in 20 tiles because my motherfucking character just treaded fucking water
uh and dont go near those barricaded churches with the glowing string thingies, i think the light update interacting with like 150 light emanating beings packed in like sardines is a no go
Favorite Achra prestige classes? be it for theme or just because you like their looks?
wait maybe its just my pc dying sometimes
>>572936295wtf there wasnt even any artifacts did they actually get rid of themFUCK
>>572934843feeeeeet
how's BNuuy these days?have they pozzed and ruined it yet?
>>572934843Not because it's good (because it isn't) but because it funny when it works.
>>572943850tl;dr a shitload of a.i sloppa was added and its probably the reason its running like fucking garbage right now
>>572934843Stormbringer for me. It's kind of vanilla but it's where you end up if you pick the good elements, and charge stacking is fun.
>>572944720for what purpose?are there some actual new features to show for it?
>>572947069lmaolol even
>>572946798>good elements>not ice
>>572947339Think again.
>>572947691And you got less than a mill max dmg,Embarrassing.
>>572948504You really don't need that much damage to win the game. Sometimes it's fun to farm for the stats though.
>>57295323270 is not high.
>can't build newest BN because the vcpkg toolchain needed to build SDL3 doesn't work on W10Thank you G-d, I am free at last.
>>572947069They gave some jackass merge rights, and he turned on the hose to "increase performance" until they gave up and told him to fuck off. There's a lesson in this: don't give people self-merge rights unless you really, really, trust them
>>572960261was it before or after latest stable?
I see now.Did the performance increase?Or is there a shitcoin miner baked in there somewhere?
>>572961843There were some performance improvements and some losses. He was apparently just going "Claude, make this faster. Claude, run a profile and tell me what the numbers mean. Bigger number mean better? Claude, merge this code I didn't write or read or test!" And when they told him he had to stop he left in a huff. Some people, man.
Any good roguelikes on ps4 or any I can use a controller with on pc? I want to kick my feet up today and be as lazy as possible, for America.
>>572963261Touhou Genso Wanderer.
>>572963261Jupiter Hell was designed with full controller supportOne Way Heroics is on PS4
>>572933152Wait what game? Cataclysm? If so I had no idea about this either.
God it's all so tiresome.Roguelikes to accelerate the global thermonuclear war?
>>572977726Hmmm. I don't know actually, there aren't any thermonuclear war focused roguelikes.
Is there some way to remove teleglow, in DDA? I was raiding one of those labs with the red carpet hallways and you know how they have science-ID-locked loot room variants spread around, containing bionics, mutagen and stuff? One of the types is a room with a random artifact behind shutters, and a variant of that type is a tear in reality in place of the artifact. Since the tear has nether monsters camping around it, the room is usually a mess full of debris on the floor from all the destruction, but I was passing by one using "V" to look for ethanol and noticed that there's actually an artifact behind the tear in reality. The same lab had another room like it, and it also had an artifact, of the same type with the same number of uses. Turns out it's not a random artifact, it has an effect that closes tears in reality, but the catch is that it gives you teleglow.Having a way to reliably close tears would be quite good, but I don't know how to deal with teleglow. I guess you could just park some kinda bike nearby and get ready to leg it immediately after use to dodge the hounds, but I'm not sure if even that would be reliable.Also I found another neat thing, you can bring inactive prototype cyborgs (in item form) to Rubik and if you have enough store credit you can have him either remove all their bionics and give you a random one, just remove all their bad shit, or sell them into robot slavery for +200$ store credit. The first two are actually bugged in the sense that they spawn as followers, but if you talk to them they just have a "first meeting" dialogue with no way to get to their follower dialogue, and the only way you can fix it is by "e"->trading them a two way radio, moving away where you can't see them, dismissing them over the radio, then coming back and re-recruiting them. Sucks that the only way you can deactivate prototype cyborgs now is with scrambler grenades. Dazzle rifle/random EMP effect doesn't work anymore.
>>572953232my tamasa used the charge buildup to kill things with the basic attack of staves because unlike Technique, Herja has no adjacent stipulation. Staff of life being pierce for chamakana was a good find lategame
>>572977726>>572979040Dead Hand is all about launching the nukes
>>572983940>still less than a mill dmgAre lightningfags just weak?Ice isnt even the most broken attribute ffs.
Not yet
I'm willing to give CBN a good go, but it keeps crashing for no reason, particularly while driving, and not giving an error.
These things are a little overtuned perhaps
>>572991959It actually gave a proper log this time, right as i was winning with a good start on a new character.
damn the dream roguelike is going hard now it has unidentified potionsi wonder which feature it will have next
>>572984175We can compare big single hits if you want (post yours) but that's kind of a separate gauge to optimize for. Getting big single hits usually means playing suboptimally for actually winning.
>can't jerk off in CDDA whenever you feel like it for a morale boostKevin, explain.
>>572995141It's Maya now chud
>>572995141That's a whole new layer of content your asking forFirst you need to set up the gooning skill and all the assorted skillbooks, then you need to overhaul the nutrient system to account for adding zinc and so on to your diet to improve your loads, also you need to add and balance different tiers of tenga eggs to the loot table including the end game nuclear powered slime infused ones you find in the central lab, as well as all new traits for refractory index and circumcision status (default is cut, you need to take a trait to have it or install the superalloy foreskin CBM)and don't get me started on craftingOn a serious note, there are vibrators in the game already
>>572995885What about dilators?
>>572995885>vibratorsI play as a male, ergo this is gay.
>>572971142yep. even though it tells you in your character bar whatever that its 600 units per turn and all the negative movement modifiers for movement, it takes 2 seconds per tile if your "standing" or "prone". as an 8/8/8/8 totally default character, naked, youll make it 20 squares before half your stamina is gone. prone, you can make it 200+, i stopped counting.your not faster, you just dont drown crossing a hotel swimming pool
>>572996242and buttplugs. i went over this already, they are super useful for skyisland runs, its like 8 morale or something for 15 minutes work, so between every drop i bootyblast the FUCK outta my guy. just 8 forced orgasms in a row then BAM hes back on earth murdering zombie children.
I can't seem to access adom through the site in the op. Does it have to be bought instead? Is the free version completely different from the one on gog?
>>573004449Honestly I'm not entirely sure how paid ADOM differs from the free one, I think you could pick your birth sign a d a few other things? I would simply download the free one and try it out. Alternatively, pirate the paid version.
>>573004449if I recall the exact differences are the paid version lets you pick your starsign in character creation and has a graphics mode and I believe achievements. One thing I recall is that the latest free version just doesnt have graphics but still plays as though you had them. The ascii version of adom could be played very quickly. in the 1.1.1 versions
>>572979932as far as i know the only way is to wait it out unless you want to debug it
>>572992450And they were nerfed once already
>>572943465Do not
>>573003051>get bullet vibrator>put super capacity battery in it>wait until my dude is extremely tired>turn it on and go to bed>the stamina cost from the vibrator outweighs how much you regen from sleeping>starve to death after several days of unending sleep because I have a tiny vibrating fake dick in my butthole>ascend to coomer heaven
>>573008290too late
the way Cataclysm depicts sex is weird>fetish and bondage gear in game, including the sparkledog suit added with zero irony by an actual furfag>sex toys, but only ones for women and homos, no fleshlights or silicone casts of Midna's lower body or whatever>the descriptions are evasive about what they actually are>you can see your tits if you strip as a female character but male character have Ken doll genitals>no naked zombies>the morale bonus for nutting is listed as a vague "good feeling"just feels weirdly on the fence in a blatantly adult video game where you can eat mutated fetuses for superpowers and then beat zombified children to (re)death with karate while high on meth
>>57299414911 mill is pretty good.
>>573010773dont be dumb, theres no super capacity batteries in the game that smalluse the charging cable bionic, install the cbm charger adapter to the vibrator, and fall asleep in a solar car attached to the dash
>>572994149>>573012251However, it's not over the top.
>>573013631Finally not a Yu worshipper
>>572934843>Achra rule 34Aw fuck man, it's taking over my liiiife helllp
>>572960639After. The stable is good.
>furry choosing his first date location
>>573014531Thats not R34 whats wrong with you
>>572933152>>572971142>>573002895Good to know since BN just ported prone, but anons... You fully have my permission to use the debug menu and teleport your character the minimum number of tiles to get to shore if the game decides that you can't moonwalk across three tiles of 8 foot deep water because Kevin has never done any physical activity in his life (and neither will Maya, I suspect, kekw)
>>573014890bn JUST ported prone over? wtf
>>573014879
>>573015032What, you think the BN devs just sit around all day watching DDA's github and porting things from there? The code bases have diverged so much that most non-trivial things would have to be rewritten, and all the BN devs have their own ideas in the works.
>>573016459prone was added seven (7) years ago. did it atleast have crouch before that? prone is so useful for megacity its unreal
>>573011718Yeah bud the dev team is dominated by troons and they're gonna keep adding weird "safe" fetish shit until the end of time
>>573013631>FormusWhat the fucking tarnationwhat does formus even do on cycles higher than 1
>set age as 16 years old>"highschool graduate"
>>573018278Ants get hit and I get free hits when they do. On that build anyway.You want an actual summon centric ant build?Take a look at this.>>572953232I was a bit drunk last night so I missed the dmg, 8 mill is very nice for a single hit.
>>573018282really smart people like me can skip years and graduate early... anon just outed themselves....
>>573027005graduation is generally late may, and the default starting date is may, and the apocalypse takes place 6 months before you start, meaning that you would of had to graduated the year before, meaning 14-15 years old. skipping a year? sure. skipping 3 years? with colleges wanting 4 years of academic history...?unless your one of those...homeschooled kids.
>>573028092Don't doubt the power of Sheldor
bro peaked in highschool now he uses his smarts to minmax vibrator time in BN
>>573028779hey jackass, BUTTPLUG. vibrators require battery and are inefficient, dont take me for some fucking casual, you fuckin hear me?
what creature are you all of a sudden able to tame with xanax?
>>572996242If you're lucky, you can find a randart with a passive on-wield ahegao effect. probably the most useful art effect out there.
effect_on_condition STILL unported
>>573034940Why don't (You) do it?
>>573035589good idea, i got some tokens left with claude
>>573028779everyone needs a hobby
Good news, everyone.
>>573037187Slow movespeed ghost moth they're using to show off the invisibility changes like blasters don't already have enough to worry about in Lair. Only upside is reaching so you can just go up stairs.
100%
>>572995141there's dildos and vibes right so they just need onaholes/sex dolls.
What is this Maya people are talking about?
the payer of zero rent
>>573047704Maya's Dark days Ahead (formerly Kevin's)
>>573011718I kind of want to add an NPC sex mod that just gives you a "good feeling" buff for sleeping next to a follower.
What's a good roguelike/mystery dungeon that I don't already have on this list that has both...>a) short runs (full clear takes <40-50 minutes max)>b) good gamepad support so I can lazily play it on Steam deck/pad in bed while something else is on in the background>c) not a puzzle or buildwank game in disguise like Path of Achra
I want to fuck the wyvern
>>572995885>>572995141>>573047565its the lack of, and implementing a gender tag to every item. adding a fleshlight is also adding a "bug" that would get endless complaints, "my female aint no futa, why do r fleshlight work?". which unironically, is actually some work. youd need to make sure adding this to every single item doesnt break something somewhere, make sure and test that you cant use them on the inappropriate gender npc, or add a response for attempting to use it on the wrong gendered npc. its more work then its really worth because at the end of the day youll add what...2 items? a fleshlight and an onahole, which is just really fleshlight, but japan?if you really want a chance of convincing anyone this is worth it, id argue for the addition of some traits.>crippling homophobia/homosexualitymoral loss, stat loss for-seeing opposite/same gender killed-wearing opposite/same gender clothing-seeing flags/apparel/items pertaining positive/negative portrayals of same/opposite gender (lgbt flags, buttplugs)>cripplingly...crossdress...ing-just locks you out of wearing your starting sexs clothing>sex addict-morale loss if you go without playboys, erotica literature, sleeping without a body pillow, using above said sex toysthese above traits would actually present a challenge and isnt particularly offensive to each group, as long as the trait is only negative and not positive. the keyword here being CRIPPLING. choosing these traits are not implying they are good/bad things to be, but implying that you have them to such intense level its actively detrimental.realistically, youll just be told to roleplay it yourself if you care so much, it wont be worth the endless discussion that will come with implementing this, no matter how "nicely" you do it. and just occurred to me youd need to add a boatload of junk items since suddenly youll need female and male shoes, socks, pants, shirts, female/male glasses, female/male gloves. no ones gonna bother.
I miss the crossdressing trait
>>573053687I might be going senile but I think gendered clothing with morale and encumbrance effects were a thing like a decade ago but soon got removed.
>>573054396i coulda sworn it was fancy dresser, which is gender neutral. rings, suits, stuff like that
>>573054396It wasYou also could drink bleach and get yourself sickI remember bonding with someone over the stupid bullshit you could do in DDA like be a transvestite bleach-chugging transvestite
>>573054396https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/79745i think it was this, stylish>>573054603you can still do that right now, theres just no morale boost/loss for it
>>573054603One of those transvestites was supposed to be schizophrenic
>>573054568The Fancy trait replaced the Crossdresser trait which had a FEMALE_TYPICAL tag or something like that for clothing.
>>573055276huh. well, everything still stands, its potentially a bunch of work for a pretty small reward, even if i think it would be a neat feature. all that or just put in some gender neutral sex toys that require zero work.
>>573056597How is it a lot of work?There's like 2 sex toys in it, and you'd just have to add a tag to it.
>can't play as a crossdressing rabbit mutant munching on carrots while using spells to defy reality and cause whacky hijinks for anything that crosses my pathThis ain't it, doc.
>>573057883if you only add the sex toys, and its still adding a tag/flag for just 2 sex toys, but i was talking about all the clothing and genderfy-ing everything.
>>573059091They already had done that work but threw it away.
>/rlg/ is a fucking ghost town that barely gets enough posts to stay on the board>someone mentions using vibrators to masturbate in game>instant lively discussion and frequent posts
>>573059374yes. its gone. which means it would take work to re-implement it.
>>573059582
redpill me on prone, besides using it in water because apparently you need to micromanage telling your retarded character to actually swim properly what are it's uses?also does crouching ACTUALLY improve ranged accuracy or is that a meme?
>>573060031i never use it for that, i use it purely for line of sight stuff in dense city. times to use it>climbing a ladder to a rooflets you get the sight range bonus for your map, without exposing yourself to every zed for a mile>opening doors in housesprone before doing so, if the room has open windows, you can crawl to them and shut the blinds. useful for going from a kitchen/living room to a bedroom. how many times have you opened a mystery door and gone "oh, im spotted. thanks open window">carscrouch in a car and zeds cant see you. not as useful anymore because running/moving vehicles attract zeds, but you used to be able to just peak, see where you wanted to go, and slide down in the seat and cruise that gap. still, you can hide behind a car with crouchkitchen counters, boxes, couches. all line of sight blocks. machine gun turret at military bases? crouch behind a couch, and push the couch to them. cardboard box works better, but it just gives you more options.also they probably fixed it, but apparently bandits could virtually never hit you when you were prone, like it dropped their accuracy by 95% or something dumb. annnnd i think explosive fragmentation damage is much less likely to tag you if prone, so i guess if you reallllly fuck up and drop a nade a few squares away and cant run, might as well try.
>>573054705They removed stylish? I'm glad I stopped playing CDDA years ago
>>573062741yeah, you can just give yourself extra stats, since its just free points.
>>573061897>so i guess if you reallllly fuck up and drop a nade a few squares away and cant run, might as well try.I've done this so many times its not even funny. There should REALLY be an optional prompt before arming an explosive.>doing random tasks outside, lots of inventory a to active presses>You light the fuse on the stick of dynamite!>FUCK
>>573060031I'm pretty sure prone reduces recoil from firing guns, at least I know it allows you to use the bipod mod which drastically reduces recoil. The other big one is explosives, you can get comically close to grenade detonations just by going prone. I think I tested it once and found you were still very safe as close as 4 tiles away from a grenade going off.This apparently was such an annoyance to the TLG dev that they completely changed how explosive fragmentation works so you can't do that anymore. I didn't know about the swimming thing myself, that's pretty hilarious.
despite having 800 gorillion hours in it I still don't know how cover and block works with terraindoes it only apply if I'm physically ON the tile? Or between the shooter and the cover object? Does it still work if you are standing? Does, for example, 35% Block mean that when I'm on that tile there is a 35% chance the enemy smacks the object instead of me?
>>573064323Recently I accidently ate a raw meat when I was menu-ing on autopilot and instantly got stomach parasitesCould'a sworn there was a prompt to stop you doing that, maybe it's tied to your survival skill...
huh, Haste in Magiclysm has a fun way of balancing itself - it makes you 2.5x faster for 17 minutes so you can fight pretty much anything easily and outrun anything, but since your stamina regen is time based, you end up completely gassed super fast if you run around murderizing everything in sight
Today I will start a new CDDA save that I actually stick to instead of quitting super early in the game just to end up creating a new save that I also quit super early just to end up creating a new save forever and ever.Three-thousandth time's the charm.
>>573064323you can toss it over a fence, or onto a roof to reduce/stop fragments entirely.throwing items also takes less then one second, so maybe that can be exploited. i guess if you can throw them from vehicles, a helicopter and 50 grenades in 50 seconds over a town would be quite a mess
>>573073416I have at least once tried to do a driveby grenading on a horde of zombies and my 0 throwing ass managed to bounce it off the doorframe of my car, blowing it to smithereens.
>>573073416>explosives can detonate if damage heavily>drop 50 grenades with the pin still in all over a town with a helicopter>drop a huge explosive in the middle>gtfo and watch as vid related happens
I kinda hate this talisman shit. Why did they fuck up transmutations?
>>573076096It came along with the poison/alchemy rework because melee dudes would want to use forms but they have 4INT. The problem is that forms are just shit with too many downsides.
>>573053202Maybe Quasimorph? It's built around a strategic campaign that's made up of short dungeon dives, so full clear is going to take a long time, but the runs are still short.I don't play with a controller, but it advertises full support on steam, and there's nothing in the interface that I think would be difficult to use.
Is alchemist still bad in Maj'Eyal?
Any good games for sale on Steam? Is Rogue Fable 3 any good?
>>573085493With the demigod buffs of later versions DgTm would probably be good with the old spells>>573093943fucking awfulI haven't tried writhing one but melee and darkness damage type is a good recipe even without the worm friend. Also haven't played annihilator but its perma summon is apparently okay even if you would need to play cornac in AoA to have enough points
Buildwank games are all I want to play. The less gameplay the better.
O AnonPride of Ulfsire Of the fake IQ buildwankeryRejector of tacticsOf legendarily bad tasteMaster of pressing tabThy brain switched offDeep was the copeDogshit Achra
>>573108056It should be illegal for one anon to be this funny!
>>573053687An utter classichttps://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/83413
Started playing infra arcana today after bouncing off adom, te4 and caves of qud. This game is fucking awesome. Soldier is my boy. That is all.
>>573114361i dunno, i read the comments and it all seems reasonable.
Roguelikes that will make me know love?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iytiWFxt09w
he did it. he finally killed my fucking general
as a bonus feature, cdda completely freezing and locking my machine up means im remembering to restart my pc periodically
>>573133729>im remembering to restart my pc periodicallyWhy would you need to do that?t, regularly has 100+ days of uptime
>>573138619helps with the MASSIVE memory leaks of hundreds, if not thousands of tabs of...documentation, yeah, documentation left open on this fuckass browser thats shit.
those exodi guns with the 1800 recoilis that just gonna gib me the second i fire one
>>573138863if you mean the same ...documentation... that I mean (one that imitates animated images by repeatedly reloading independent static frames) , just clicking through a couple tabs should trigger browsers garbage collection on all tabs.
>>573144650nah, not on this piece of shit. sadly it just has all the extensions and addons i like so i put up with the NSA tracking features and the occasional complete hang
That should not be allowed
just occurred to me, is there any reason to not place car headlights one tile deep onto your car? instead of it being on the bumper, just on the hood, or even windshield 2 tiles deep so they dont smash if you do hit shit?
Got Maj'Eyal on steam sale. I can't get the UI to scale to a 4k resolution. At least I think that's the problem. Trying to change font size just breaks the boxes. This game is nearly unplayable because the UI is tiny. When I google this I don't find any useful information.
>>573150481Don't know how to fix the font but the rest of the UIs depend on tile size setting. It's like 32x32 by default or something, just look around.
>>573150570I just discovered the screen zoom option. I have to restart the game to get it to take effect but it's the setting that actually changes what I need changed.
Rift wizard 3 got another patch yesterdayFae huntsman silenced nerfed
>>572995141The clever work around here is to use the already existing label mechanic to create custom items on the fly>get a pen>grab a vibrator or a board game>add a label to the item to rename it from "Board Game", to "Anal Beads">it's real in my mind through the power of RP>your character can now 'Play a Game' with their anal beads for hours and hoursTada, with this one simple trick you can add any item to the game on the fly without modding
>>573153516spirits should have a 1 turn cooldown on their bolts
>>573153837but i NEED status effects like "aheago" or its not the sameeeee!
>>573153837"And why should I travel with you?">"You can keep me safe!">Look at his full suit of plate armor>Alright, makes sense>Hand over all my medicine and ammunition>Keep the pointy stick>Hop into his car, brush the pile of loose nails, pills, and glass jars off the seat, and tie the rope around my waist>He holds his light machine gun with both hands while he drives exactly 40 mph across a rocky field>Arrive at a cabin in the woods>He tells me to make 50 clay canisters>Start grabbing lumps of raw clay out of the bookshelf>Notice a short, square cardboard box in a nearby pile>The label written on the box says "anal beads">Open the box>Connect Four
>>572639449What's wrong with DDA? I'm playing it right now after bouncing off multiple times, raided a lab, kitted out and doing quests for NPCs, I'm having fun.
>>573167285It's still pretty good, but there's been a long-running anti-fun thread to its development for years. Obnoxious changes, inexplicable nerfs, tedium and grind. A lot of people play Bright Nights instead of Dark Days since the BN devs place game balance ahead of "realism*" and actively try to avoid adding grindy shit.* DDA's notion of realism is very strange, and almost always bends in a direction that hurts the player, realism that helps the player doesn't exist
>>573167285BN is the "they changed it now it sucks" crowd, so if you havent played old dda, you can pretty much ignore BN until youve played regular DDA enough to know what you would want changed or not. problem is, BN is updated at a much slower rate so its mostly outdated, but retains the style the "it changed so it sucks now" crowd wants.
>>573168552The one thing I remember was the removal of killer drive / psychopath perks, because they were 'edgy'. It's lame because now I can't roleplay as a death row convict escaping from prison.On a side note, the game becomes easy past melee 3 with a fire axe / riot gear. I've cleared two cities and looted a lab. By the time zombie evolution kicks in I'll probably be unkillable.
Oh they are making gasoline spoil now.https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/87714That sounds like a tedious thing to deal with.
>>573161608Fuck LMAO>>573168552>* DDA's notion of realism is very strange, and almost always bends in a direction that hurts the player, realism that helps the player doesn't existDDA will never be a realistic game. I can still chop automobiles in half with a stick and the devs will simply never win no matter how much dust simulation they addI still love the game
>>573170335Wasn't that already in it or am I thinking of Zomboid?
>>573168552fleppfleppp
>>573170335i like the idea. itll suck for now because there isnt that much in the way of producing energy other ways, but definitely helps in stopping cars from being so over powered.
>>573174598I don't know. I think the single most tedious thing in CDDA is having to drive back to your base after a successful run, and having to produce your own gasoline on top of that just makes it worse.
>>573174985Just go EV until they implement not being able to run it in cold temps.
Drive back to base? I don't even touch cars in DDA, I just babble in wizard language and teleport back to base because wizards have no sense of right, wrong, nor realism. I can't really bring myself to play non-wizards because it sounds kind of tedious just like driving in real life
>>573169373>DDAfag copes and seethesWhat a surprise
dda should have fully functional automated nuclear powered subway system that just keeps running after the apocalypse
>>573170335Only gasoline and not diesel? So the only thing this would mean, assuming you play long enough for it to ever matter, is that you'll switch to a diesel car eventually? Wow, such important realism.
>>573174985if youve set up your danger zones correctly, going home, almost any distance, should be just 3-4 button presses. anyways, every solar panel you find on a roof disassembles into 4 vehicle solar panels, so even evac shelters give you 4 freebies. this is what houses have on them, this is 36 vehicle solar panels. you need 2 elec/2 fab to install it, and 1 prying/1 screw to remove it from the roof, and your gonna have 3 months to do this.>>573176938it says diesel as well. if its a different length, didnt see it, but it should last longer. they should also make jp8 last even longer as well to make it more valuable.
>>573153516Fae Sniper, Gelid Mirror, Mordred, and Gaia all got nerfed. They must have realized the game ended up like 10x harder than RW2 and wanted to backtrack a little bit.
>>573177107I've never bothered to do danger zones. I'll give them a try. So far I never used fast travel because I was scared the AI would trash my car. There's also a massive triffid infestation on the way home and I can't be assed to clear them out, I'll probably move out to a big city I'm working on instead of sitting in some shithole cabin in the forest.
>drive over normal grass for split second making a turn>24" wheel popsI get wheels are terrible for off roading, but they aren't fucking ballons ready to pop. DDA devs are just plain up retarded, none of this is even makes sense from either a realistic or gameplay stance. There wouldn't have so much issue with it if it wasn't so frequent and they actually implemented mechanized to properly offroad with the update they introduced this shit. But like everything else, they implement a shit change hoping someone else more competent will fix it in frustration.Mi-Go scouts are an example of this btw, they use the monster ability system to fire a gun. Which means they instafire when you enter their range, can keep shooting while chasing or attacking since they don't need to aim, will always hit the torso, have perfect accuracy and since they don't need to aim they don't get interrupted. No doubt they intended for someone to "fix" it and give monsters the ability to properly aim and this shit change is how they are going about it. They did this with locks, riot damage, space cramping, dust, amalgamation spawning, passive crafting and many more.
>>573178601>still playing ddaits your own fault at this point
>>573177107It doesn't really make sense for diesel, gasoline goes bad mostly because of the added ethanol that almost all pump gas has. Ethanol free gasoline can sit on the shelf for a very long time. Diesel never had ethanol to begin with, I have heard stories of people taking diesel from literally decades old forgotten tanks and still working.Fuel spoiling at all is retarded because of the time scale of the game. Very few players go beyond a single in game year, a 3+ year long game is borderline unheard of. Even pump gas with added ethanol will last a year.
>>573178601scouts dont always hit your torso
BN nightly is totally fucked, half the render option crash the game, or vomit out endless errors, or just don't generate lighting
Also the performance is vastly worse than last time I played, and I upgraded to like a 3x more powerful CPU since then
>>573179849the time frame is what makes it fine to me. if you REALLY get far enough for it to expire, youve already passed many, MANY chances to prepare for it. and diesel does go bad, just way slower. makes those vehicles have a point to existing, because literally who ever chose a diesel vehicle before hand unless it was their only option?its a challenge for the .001% people who get to a year and do some autistic shit like, farming. cool.
>>573180258There's not much reason to NOT use a diesel over a gasoline car in the game because diesel engines are more fuel efficient. Plus you can find gigantic loot drops of JP8 at military locations.the V12 diesel engine is the most powerful engine you can find that isn't some hyper-rare meme item like an osprey turboshaft or w/e. Never mind the fact that a V12 diesel engines basically don't exist in road vehicles IRL.
>>573179957>>573180214Stick with stable for the time being, they're in the process of pulling the retarded guy's AI slop code out right now
>>573180537What could they possibly do to JP8 to make it not as broken as it currently is?Don't say, they might be listening
>>573180537>Never mind the fact that a V12 diesel engines basically don't exist in road vehicles IRL.Ssh, you don't want the DDA devs to hear, or they'll prune it for being sci-fi!
>>573180719All of the liquid fuels are nowhere near as broken as electric motors. That's another thing that makes this fuel spoiling nerf stupid. I only use combustion engines in the early game before I find a large/enhanced electric motor and decent amount of solar panels. Once you have those, the only thing gas and diesel are good for is as emergency backup generators if you accidentally drain your car of battery power away from your solar panels, but even that I have never had to actually use in a game.
>>573180537so gasoline expiring is a pain in the ass because no one uses gasoline engines because diesel engines are better in every way? this commit impacts nobody?whats...whats the problem again?
>>573181118That's it's a stupid waste of time, like so many additions to the game. My biggest concern would be the game running even worse than it already does because of some kind of constant calculation on the spoilage state of every drop of fuel within the reality bubble, as was the case with food which took them forever to not even fix but make more bearable. It serves zero fucking gameplay purpose, so literally why bother? It's even more laughable when you consider that this fuel spoilage will only work in the reality bubble so it will only further reinforce in incongruity of finding new towns beyond your bubble that are seemingly still on day 1 of the cataclysm.
>>573181118It's a change that impacts practically no one besides making one of the weaker parts of the "meta" even weaker for the sake of half-assed realism
>>573178473you set it up once, and then you can just ask it to autopath the entire way, then use the fast travel mode to make it quick. this is an older webm, but look how far it takes me in 23 seconds versus manually driving.
>>572639449More CDDA devs stupidity.https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/85333This is especially insulting because there are zombies everywhere. It's a zombie game. You have to kill zombies to progress and get stronger. Early game characters are already very weak and are played differently enough. It's also a game where magic blob makes you regenerate all limbs to full health in the span of a single night's sleep because you applied the bandage in a correct way.But players killing too many zombies is where the line is drawn.
>>573181931>renechCTLG did it first and its shit there too
Listening to DDA players is like going to a support group for battered womenWhy don't you leave that man already? God damn!
>>573181427the whole games a waste of time, anon, you can just grab a car, get enough canned food in a week to survive a year just doing nothing in a cabin. every single thing we do in this game is unnecessary, its the difficulty and challenge of doing it. why modify a car? why even get a car better than a 1 seater microcar. you can just draw everything away with the most basic car and never even bother holding a weapon a single time. you can just drive past everything until you find abandoned cabins and play the most boring survival game ever. gas expiring makes the unnecessary challenge of building a death-mobile a challenge.>>573181931what the hell, this is 3 months old, are you really just going back and finding shit weve already delt with? like we said 3 months ago, if you want to be able to kill 100 zeds in 6 hours of non-stop combat without stopping, dont roll an office worker, use the custom character option to make some greek god.
>>573182413>like we said 3 months ago>weDevs on damage control in /rlg/, lol
>>573182413>the whole games a waste of time,Not even close to my point and you know it. It's a waste of time because it will never even come up in normal gameplay for 99.9% of players if the timescales are true to real life.Solar panels also degrade over time, supposedly in the range of 25-30 years. Are you going to add solar panel degradation next just in case someone plays a 25 year long game?
>>573182413If this was discussed already then just ignore my post, I'm new on /rlg/, I've got no idea what you guys were talking about 3 months prior to my arrival.
>>573182913It wasn't discussed here, that guy's just trying to shut down a conversation because it makes DDA look bad. If anon discovered melee sucked yesterday and went on github to find out why that was, well, he's supposed to sit on his hands, say nothing, and lump it because "the merge happened three months ago, chud!"
>>573182534we as in here, us, in this thread. 3 months ago. when i last used office worker to describe how goofy it was to solo 100 zombies with a stick.
>>573183320>"the merge happened three months ago, chud!"this but unironically.
anyways i gotta go to bed, so lets keep arguing sometime tomorrow, yeah?
>>573183320It wasn't merged yet but it wasn't closed either, so they're considering it. Probably not in the extreme the dev suggested, I mean I agree you don't want to be killing hundreds of zombies day one, but that's already... happening in the game. New characters are weak and they must avoid zombies to survive, until the train up and find proper gear. It took my character a week to properly gear up and tackle on his first (small) zombie city, and only because I got lucky with an axe drop.>>573183681See you tommorow anon.
>>573184132>It wasn't merged yet but it wasn't closed either, so they're considering itSo the conversation is still going on, but that guy doesn't want anyone to talk about it here because it could hurt his fee-fees. Even better!
>>573184862I don't think they'll merge this as-is because it would flip the game balance upside down. How else are you supposed to get into cities? Parkour runner style, jumping across rooftops? Would be cool but the game isn't built on that. All my characters clear cities street by street, I recently got good enough to graduate from tedious kiting with a spear and I sure as hell don't feel like returning there when I start playing experimental again.
Since all the Cataclysm people are here right now is there an easy way to modify cars just for the sake of testing? I dug around the debug menus but found nothing for modifying them, just spawning. I could start a new character and spawn in all parts needed to modify, but that's gonna take ages. I was hoping there was a simple way to go "remove this, install this part here".
>>573181931>The output of a car per minute is still the output of a car per minute, and solidly above even the theoretical potential of human activity regardless of whether you can keep it up for a whole day.>It's also the work of a car per minute, which means the generated heat of a car per minute. If your hypothetical fresh-out-of-the office-building survivor (assuming 100kg weight, because they're unfit) burned 1,200 calories in a minute they would die of heatstroke well before the minute was up.>We can very easily see that the number one cause of historical battle death was dysentery, not poking your enemy for thirty seconds and then having your brain melt down. This suggests- and is strongly corroborated by the existence of such sports as HEMA- that battle does not consume that many calories, because people lived through it long enough to shit themselves to death later.Pure goldI'm still in awe of https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/86581 though. Renech and Guardian going at it with fervor, no matter where you look on the timeline.
>>573186961If only all this autistic energy went into making the game better. CDDA would have been Dwarf Fortress level.
>>573183475You ever read Eragon, notRenech-anon?Do the refutations and complaints that zombies are slow and clumsy and unintelligent attackers not find ANY purchase in your mind, anon?Serious questions.Really. Is it like... The sharp stick, thing? Does the metric change if the office worker has a hammer or baseball bat or something more suitable? Could this more realistically be ascribed to how easy it is to use a sharpened stick to inflict cosmetic scratches until Critical Sexistence Failure?
>>573184132The real reason you can fight 100 zombies in a day is because of the retarded safety suit bubble layering system where the survivor takes zero damage just because he's funneled into a good choke and is wearing four pairs of jeans>>573185652Hammerspace
>>573187469>Do the refutations and complaints that zombies are slow and clumsy and unintelligent attackers not find ANY purchase in your mind, anon?I was just about to mention that myself. Comparing killing shambling zombies to medieval armored combat is asinine. Even in the game you kill a zombie in 1-2 whacks with an axe or a handful of stabs with a kitchen knife. >>573187614>retarded safety suit bubble layering system where the survivor takes zero damageI don't see what's retarded about it, at least with respect to zombies. It would be pretty difficult to bite or meaningfully punch through a heavy leather jacket with underlying padding. The armor system starts to break down logically with much more threatening things like guns. Realistically the only thing capable of stopping rifle bullets are armor plates specifically made for stopping rifle bullets. Every other piece of armor in the game rifle rounds would go straight through without struggling.
>>573187469Why do you think it's Renech? I doubt CDDA devs are poking their heads into here of all places.
>>573187614Oh thank you that's exactly what I was looking for
>>573187614>The real reason you can fight 100 zombies in a day is because of the retarded safety suit bubble layering system where the survivor takes zero damage just because he's funneled into a good choke and is wearing four pairs of jeansnot even the best strat for beating groups of zombies in melee.low encumbrance dodge + terrain is many times better, don't even need a chokepoint just kiting zombies over a car or pool of water is enough. Can kill zombies before they even attack due to 400 movement terrain, and even if they do attack they will often miss due to high dodge.
>>573188348He literally referred to the DDA dev team as "we"
>>573188823that's the best method in terms of game mechanics but it takes a lot longer in real time. Micromanaging every fight by kiting them onto slow terrain takes forever IRL compared to throwing on armor, standing in a chokepoint and holding down tab.
>>57317767090% of my deaths are in realm 4/5 not sure how this helps
>>573188823Attacks done from movement cost tile inherit the tile's cost when calculating the attack speed, so you can get even more hits in. Sadly grabs are instant from what I've heard and only a dodge will save you from that. On the other hand, I don't find kiting an entire city's worth of zombies to be worthwhile, it's tedious, repetitive and once you get a decent armor and a weapon, often unnecessary, since most hits that aren't dodged fail to penetrate armor, or deal much less damage.
>>573189132Might be a skill issue little bro.
>>573181931These people are completely insufferable and so absurdly obsessed with being "correct" and pedantic that they have totally forgotten how to actually have fun. I don't understand them and I despise them.
>>573203728They end up having to couch all of their proposals in terms of realism because otherwise the argument is reduced to simply what one guy prefers over another. It's the result of having no central authority dictating the direction and vision of the game. It's bizarre, the fixation on realism is essentially an emergent property of the decentralized open source development. And it causes these absurd and absurdly long winded arguments citing obscure history and technical data that they don't even understand.
>>573204059You can have realism without compromising on fun factor. Anyone sperging this much about calories consumes during fighting or how many zombies it is realistic to kill in a day should be ignored.
Came back to roguelikes after 5~ years thanks to jupiter hell classic. Then jupiter hell. Then tried all 3 rift wizard games and path of achra. Currently getting poa achievements but might go back to rw3, although have pokemon md dx pending as well
>>573204374Oh course you can, but my point is that they are effectively incentivized to constantly up the ante on adherence to realism because it gives their argument more perceived legitimacy. You can see it in that discussion in the link, ultimately the heart of the argument is that one guy wants combat to be more punishing and the other guy doesn't but neither one of them have the authority to force the issue in either direction. So instead they both turn the autism beams on full power and blast each other with hastily googled historical accounts and technical data that neither one of them can actually interpret usefully.
>>573204989>it gives their argument more perceived legitimacyThat is absolutely retarded and if I'm dealing with people that I have to weasel around and manipulate just to make any headway I'd rather tell them to eat shit and leave. I don't care how objectively correct someone is, it's retarded and not fun.Why not work towards adding an option that lets you alter calorie counts expended per activity tier if anything?
>>573188006I do think there should be more impact to your mobility/stamina and maybe that you should take chip blunt damage- You can disperse the impact all you like, but getting wailed on is going to take its toll, even through two leather jackets- Something like armor hardness could exist to let you stop that from coming through when you DO have something like plate armor.But of course, crowd crush and all that shit is pretty well disliked and nerfed, so I don't think "taking twenty blows to the stomach will let through some damage to your torso through armor based on hardness" will go over well.>>573188823I respect this more than Day 1 invulnerability tabbers desu, it's based and tacticpilled. If you could autokite though, would I still think it was gay? Big questions. I think it would make EVEN MORE sense if you could toggle a stance (like running/walking) that made/let you incrementally spend moves on attacking and moving away right before the something slower than you is about to attack.
>>573205192>adding an optionGame dev anon here, that's the worst choice. A few options here and there are fine, but if your game turns into Options: The Optioning, you're gonna have a bad time as a developer. It's hard to debug, it's hard to write issue reports, it's hard to parse issue reports, you have to test any new code path with every possible combination, which either slows you down or encourages people to post untested stuff or to say "if it crashed, stop using options". It's awful.
>>573177670The void spawns are still on my "avoid realm" list
>>573209228It's also bad on the player end, because it's basically asking the player to balance the game themselves. Which in most cases leads to option paralysis and using the default settings anyway. And any complaints about gameplay being dismissed with an instruction to lower whatever particular setting is related to the complaint.
>>573209780Yeah. I wanna stress that I am in no way in favor of them removing all the world options, but rather I'm against adding even more fiddly game balance knobs. Tuning the world is a-ok in my opinion, one of the game's strengths is the ability to set it to your favorite apocalypse. Tuning the player's internals, though, feels like going too far, because now I've got options that affect the balance changes from the other options and I'm playing etch-a-sketch with player and world knobs.
best roguelike of 2026
white people be complaining about cdda all day every day but would never dream of just not playing the game
>>573214860It's an autistic containment space. Nobody is ever happy there, but nobody can escape.
>>573215046it's the same with dcss. people will endlessly complain about that game but cant comprehend just finding another roguelike to play even tho there's like literally thousands to choose from on roguebasin
>>573215220The issue with humans is that we are evolved to specialize into niches. Once we've found our hole, we can't escape from it, and that's where the misery happens.The game isn't fun anymore because we're past the honeymoon period where it feels like a brand new world where we can just fool around and learn about new things. Past the minmaxing point most choices feel meaningless.And the worst part is because our minds are so tuned to the way of thinking in one game, picking up the next one becomes harder.This is also why some competitive online games lean more onto the "fuck balance, just force a new meta" because a more balanced game is a microscopically less boring game, while a new meta might force people outside of their comfort zone.
>>573212460So this is how I find out GOG-games is shutting down.
>>573215568just use rin. gog-games was bad at keeping games up to date anyway
what are some Belgium roguelike
>>573215485I think you could probably find the minimum of personal agency it takes to stop playing a videogame you're bored of. It's really not that difficult.
>>573215220I actually liked DCSS up until talismans ruined my favorite starting class. Attacks of opportunity didn't even bother me but talismans were over the line.
alright im back, where did we leave off?
>>573215485thats why i skip the middleman and dont even play the games, i just go straight to 4chan and shitpost in the appropriate threads acting like i did. the cost/entertainment ratio is insane
>>573226352Everyone was in the middle of recommending me good roguelikes on Steam
>>573227108grim
>>573221275attacks of opportunity was a good change desu. prior to that the entire early game was just running around a pillar to regen which was lame as hell
>>573212460>this vomit looking pile costs 25$lol
>>573215853Lowkey whenever I noticed someone on Rin was a GOG rehoster I would just go check GOG-games anyways. All these new kids like Anker make me nervous.
>>573232230It costs $0
what is the 4-1 of roguelikes
page 10 likesisnt weird they havent reduced /vg/s page count? they lowered /wsg/s page count to like half just recently.
Flemenco is cool, but the linux binary is busted and running the windows one in lutris keeps crashing for me.
dead
You guys suck.Whoever did that ridiculous phoenix rez run on PoA, repost your screenshot so I can use it at moments like this.
>have the sleep mode cbm that cancels sensory stimuli and keeps you asleep till your alarm "no matter what">"looks like you woke up before your alarm"
>>573251986I still can't figure out what that one that is supposed to reduce tiredness does.I've literally been plugged into a vehicle with multiple large storage batteries in and my character has still become tired in the same amount of time.
My first 1+ month cata run and I am nigh unkillable even with the headless horrors and kevlar zombies everywhereThis has stopped being fun, I think it's safe to call this the game "beat"
>>573253750you didnt beat the game
>>573253750It's not beat until every zombie is a kevlar hulk
>can't wikiscum for infra arcana>so unable to winFugg. This shit seems designed to be unwinnable I don't even know what I'm supposed to be doing. If I fight things I'll eventually run out of resources and if I go stealth mode I won't get enough items and get walled later.
>>573255137You know with the wikification of everything it's quite refreshing that there are still a few games like IA out there that are almost completely virgin territoryI've managed to get to what I think the end of IA is before, got my shit stomped in because I just ran away from everything, and even then I'm not sure it was the true end point. Felt like a genuine accomplishment
>>573255137Find a balance between the two?
>>573255137>>573255376>they dont know
>>573255376I don't like scumming games but I've splatted enough runs now where I'd like to do a bit better since it's not even clear to me how to get consistently good runs. Speccing into damage seems almost doomed to fail since enemies feel like they will always outscale you and anything else is just rng dependent on drops.
>>573255623My best advice for getting far is to play rogue and try your best to not even bother attacking anything, spec into stealth and hit the bricks with most encountersYou level up plenty just discovering shit and killing wastes resources, you'll need a boatload of dynamite and bullets and so on for the boss levels
Do mods disable achievements in rift wizard 3?
>>573252491isnt it like you cant go below the last tiredness level. like you can never truly gas out, which is kinda useless since your probably dead anyways
>>573257176I dunno, when I usually play I never go below whatever the step after tiredness is.The focus and debuffs suck and I'm better at planning than that.
>>573255547Share your eldritch secrets oh enlightened one
>>573263678oh i dont know either, i just like saying "he doesnt know". just since there was two of you, i had to change it to "they dont know".
>>573264849RudeAll this discussion has given me the urge to try it again, are there still half-hidden traits that you need multiple previous traits for that make your stabs ridiculous or something that I've forgotten about?
hehe
>>573253750>I think it's safe to call this the game "beat"Did you close the main portal?
>turn corner>occultist unloads 00 buckshot into my chest>die>try to kick door open>sprain foot>die>Wall collapses full of fat bastard zombies>get overwhelmed >dieI forgot how cheap life was in IA, gnats have a longer lifespan than you
>>573161608kek
sleep in hell, douchebags
Has DDA replaced the STR stat with individual muscle group development yet?
>>573281054Don't give them ideas>every new muscle fiber is individually tracked with multiple parameters including damage, oxygen stored, thickness>being a bodybuilder adds a whole 3 gig to your entire savefile
pffft, turns out rlg doesnt even lift
Anybody wanna talk about roguelikes?
speed goes down to 25 when you skip leg day for a week
>>573282583Playing Flemenco, I think Cleaner is my favorite class. A reliable stun to unalerted enemies lets me whack'n'stack like I was playing Thief: TDP. Security devices still give him trouble though.Wish the game didn't have a thing for spawning me in a room with cameras, tripwire lasers, and guards though
>loot 1 gunstore, have more guns and ammo than I will ever need>find refugee center or the gunsmith, can buy hundreds of ammo easily every 5 days>hit up any military location with an armory, never run out of ammo again>tools for reloading ammo are rarely found in gunstores or sold by the ammo merchants, meaning you have plenty of ammo by the time you got the toolsis there even a point to reloading your own rounds? only use case seems to be for reloading rare rounds like .50 bmg
>>573290738You can tune worlds so ammo (and everything really) spawns less
Awooga
>second form gets 999 shieldvery cool
How often does this happen in such a long game? I switched screens and immediately got decimated. I don't mind that in the shorter games but no to that for the longer games.
It's over, I ran out of walls
>>573290738imo reloading ammo should not be in the game. the biggest reason being like you said it's much easier to simply find ammo. it's very annoying to have thousands of crafting recipes for reloading 8 different flavors of round for each caliber when every one of them is inferior to the factory ammo you find everywhere. It makes very little sense logically as a survival mechanic as well, if you lower the spawn rate of ammo presumably you would also find less gunpowder and primers which are even less common than the ammo both in game and IRL.
>>573292626not in modern dda, they removed world settings
>>573296056I think a good potential compromise would be allowing you to trade in spent shell casings to the gunsmith ammo dealer guy for some amount of finished ammo. Maybe 2-3 empty shells in exchange for 1 round, gives you a reason to retain and collect casings without having to include a billion redundant crafting recipes and components.
>>573290738>>573296056dda will never agree to it because it's too videogamey but you should be able to craft custom ammo that's situationally better than commercial specs.also crafting menu should add filters and blacklists for tools and components so you could just hide everything involving ammo press for example.
>>573296016Running out of spells is the 2nd most humiliating way to die (getting soft locked by slimes is the 1st).
>>573299473What about walling you in with psychic seedlings and forgetting that one arcane immune enemy?
Does Bright Nights still have the temples? It occured to me just now that haven't seen one in-game there. I know DDA took them out for the lesser sins of being poorly coded and not fitting with a sci-fi setting, and the far greater sin that they were a lot of fun. Was that before BN split off, or are there no temples there either? I miss those things.
>>573300678That should never happen but congratulations on inventing a new way.
>>573299473This guy just face tanked my entire spell arsenal, very cool enemy in a game with limited charges
I feel like Flemenco and I have different definitions of a "minor security" building, what with the stairs to floor #2 of 5 leading up into a room with a camera pointed right at me and a floor made of pressure plates rigged to explosives that go off if I don't step on them just right, and the nearby doors out which I could rush through to escape the camera have a Pacifier with a stun gun, an Enforcer with a shotgun, and a barking Hound, behind doors #1, #2, and #3 respectively.
>>573294234the humble magic missile with shield burn upgrade:
>>573294234>>573293580Thats one big bitch, still, Gaia is more sex
>>573296016Balloon :)
>>573257823Yes, that's what the synaptic stimulator does.It lowers the rate at which you accumulate "sleep debt" (and the associated debuffs thereof)So if you weren't a pussy you could stay up much longer before reaching the point of being physically incapable AND you would recover from that much faster (normally you'll have extra long sleeping periods/become tired faster to "pay back" the sleep deprivation tax)You could be awake more hours in the day.
>>573296056>>573298937Open crafting Open searcht:hand pressMash the hide recipe buttonRepeat with Q:ammunition reloading or Q:casing formingWhenever you see a dogshit recipe category figure out what's tying it together and repeat.yw my niggas
>>573305019So how is it? That's the spy roguelike right
>>573311667It's more a burglar thing, but yeah, it's pretty cool. I think maybe there's too many classes, but each one has their own particular thing, so I guess that's fine. Level layout can be brutal sometimes, like I mentioned, but most of the time there are ways to get past things safely. Dancing past lasers or pushing furniture in front of them, uploading a virus to a terminal to shut off alarms or cameras, wearing a disguise or hiding in/under furniture to slip past guards, etc. Pretty cool, but I discovered my crash problem isn't random, it happens every time I look at some weird thing, so I try not to use X anymore. Wish it was proper libre software, I'd help the guy fix his shit.
>>573295512Oh I'm a retard. I walked into the next screen with 50 move speed.
>>573312894>Go up stairs>There's an agent right there in front of me>Whip out the taser I picked up on the second floor>Fire first shot, miss>Fire second shot, partial hit that stuns him for about one round of combat, whoop-de-doo>Fire third shot, miss>Out of charge>Engage in fisticuffs, activate!>James Bond kicks my assThe End.Wish I could peek up the stairs. This game makes me want to write a better one.
>>573317579Reminds me of stepping downstairs in Qud and getting lasered by a legendary pack.There's literally no counterplay to being instantly cooked alive because the game stacked 15 Dawnbirds in sight range of the tile and you don't even get a turn before you take 60d4+15 damage and instantly gain 6000 degrees of heat
>>573321459There were ways to get out of it. I had a couple of turns before he recognized me as an intruder, I could have thrown a smoke bomb, or hastily used a disguise, or some classes are fast or agile and might have fled. I chose to go with the taser I had picked up, tried to zap him with a 43% hit chance and was just unlucky. As a Cleaner I probably should have just rushed him and tried to clock him before he became alarmed, as the Cleaner's special ability is to knock people out by surprise. Meta for this Flemenco seems to be to try to recognize when you're going up against something too hard and to back out. Preferably before you trip the alarms and get mobbed. Grab enough coins and other loot from the first floor or so and you can usually make back what you spent on gear for the run, and then pick a different, less suicidal mission.
Is cdda completely broken? I cant start a new character in stable or expiermental because of constant errors that kick me back to main menu when trying to create a character. Haven't tried playing in a year or so. What gives?
>>573325974i just tried it, experimental works for me, 0829probably your launcher, what are you using
>>573326513Didint know there was a launcher for this now? I just downloaded the tiles and sound one for my os and started the application like normal. Whenever I try to create a character it loads until it gets to map weights and keeps giving me json errors and when ever I hit continue or ingore future messages it just kicks me back to the main menu.
>>573327093uh, a launcher is recommended since it updates about 5 times a day. choose the appropriate one for winblows or linuts. theres like four different 3rd party launchers. on my winblows machine i use catapult
>>573328326NTA but>5 different branchesReally, how did things come to this?
I cleared the military base on overrun on both CDDA and BN and feel like I beat the game; there isn't anything left to do. I hear BN still has a win condition, where do i start?
>>573328471Two dead forks, two forks run by no-fun-allowed weenies, that leaves us with one good one.
>>573328471casuals vs hardcore elite gamers
>>573328471its cause y'alls a bunch of dramatic faggots
>>573328654You need to find a Central lab. At the heart is the BEEG portal generator. Shut it off and save(-ish) the world!
>>573328471One per pronoun
>>573328654Central lab in the 00,00 map tile.
>>573328654dda still has a win condition, its just no one likes it
>>573328767>mfw this is what DDA players actually believe>>573328912It's not a win condition anymore, they renamed the key from "suicide" to "give up!"
>>573328912whats that one where you transcend during a portal storm or something? seemed anti-climatic
>>573329340yeah, like i said, no one likes it>>573329027uh
buh
what do i use this for
>>573340563also they seriously need to make a variant of the military outposts and military heli pads. every single one of them haveing 15,000 rounds of 5.56 is a bit silly. the military and literally anyone would be raiding the shit out of those places asap
from my wipI'm looking for some input here.I'm wondering whether I should cast a 3 row tall shadow on the south-facing walls or a use a 2 row tall shadow.Top left is 3-row, it looks weird when the walls stand alone. Top right is 2-row which looks a bit better.The issue is that I'd like to put windows and other stuff on the walls and having 3 row is highly preferred.
>>573345314The usual solution for this is to use wall graphics that are larger than a standard tile and extend over the bottom of the upper tile.
>>573346204It might work for some wall stuff like a torch or a painting but the windows need to fit squarely into the lower tile
>>573346327Why would that be a problem? All you're doing is like, instead of a 64x64 tile for the walls, do a 64x72 tile, where the upper 8 pixels are the top of the wall, and overlap, covering the bottom 8 pixels of the tile above. Same exact 64x64 space for a window as now, but the top doesn't have to be truncated like that.
>>573067358>bipodIs this actually useful, I guess it allows much faster follow up shots?
>>573346547yeah that's the intended purpose, worth doing if you are going to mow down a horde or something but not for taking out singular zombies.the bipod also works on certain types of terrain like open windows and stuff like that.
>>573346763i mean, how worth it is the worth it. is it work doing with a semi auto to take on a crowd of 5+, or is it only worth it with a light machine gun vs 30+
im never gonna find ammo for this ever, am i
>>573351237What the hell are the Exodii? I haven't played DDA in years and have little desire to
>>573351409They're humans from another dimension, who were inserted to be the only source for CBMs and other stuff deemed "too sci-fi"
Just bought myself Isaac repentance on steam sale. Why the hell does unlocking all the cool stuff takes so long? And why is it impossible to win? And there are even achievos where you need to win 5 times in a row or something
>>573353416>why is it impossible to win?
BIG FUCKING OOFturns out the top of hub 01 building is missing an entire section of the roof right at the front. lmao how long do you think THAT fuck ups been in there, somebodys gonna get fucking fired for that
>>573351237Doesn't the other guy on the same zlevel as Rubik sell their weapons and ammo now? I think I saw those cells in his shop.
>>573356825thats where im looking at the gun
>>573356942Well, shop stock refreshes every 6 days, you just got unlucky with the roll this time. Try again when it does?
god DAMN it why does grenades aggro zombies from fucking miles away even when im underground several layers deep
>>573361270You aren't throwing them while stood next to a fire.
>>573361657wouldnt help, theres npcs here that would still get attacked
ragulikes
>>573353787Nigga im literally getting trapped in small room with gorillion jumping spiders with zero tear damage
>>573372050skill issue
What's the chance to get hit in the eyes or mouth in BN?
>>573305019Yeah I tried this game and I have no earthly fucking clue how you're s'posed to do those missions where you have to not trigger alarms, there are so many situations where you just have to eat an alarm, so many up stairs that just drop you slap bang right in front of a security camera with not enough movements to get away before it goes offSame with rooms where the objective is behind 3 enforcers, 2 security cameras and 3 shotgun turrets
>>573384870I can pull off some of the missions, there are tricks to avoid setting off various alarms. Like, laser tripwires have a stage when they go dark and you can step across them, at least for one turn, sometime two. Surprising guards gives you a good chance to beat them down, (near 100% for Cleaners, but still solid for others) and you can lure them away by whistling where you want them to go, or better yet, flicking off a lightswitch. Leave bodies in a dark room and they'll ignore the light switch and go for the body first, which lets you casually stroll up behind them and clock them. If you blow the alarm on the no-alarm mission, there's a secondary objective to wipe the data on a server to succeed anyway. My problem with my latest mission was the room at the center of the top floor, where presumably my target was hiding, had no entrances whatsoever. I guess if I had the demolitions expert I could have gotten in, but damn, the mapgen could use some work.
>>573386490Oh and cameras are mostly useless in the dark, so if you can rush to a lightswitch you may escape the "camera at the top of the stairs" ploy. Really wish you could peek up stairs, so you could go when the camera's not looking right at you. Would also be nice if you could go back the start of the mission and, instead of aborting entirely, buy more gear. Like maybe at a 5% markup. Being able to go back and spend money on a disguise to get past cameras and stuff would be nice, and money is already the balancing factor for gear anyway.
After fiddling around in debug mode for a bit in Cataclysm I've come to realise just how easy it is to make an amphibious vehicle. Simply slap on some hull pieces until it says the car floats and that's it. Really expected it to be more annoying and obtuse like everything in Cataclysm is but you don't even need a propeller for it to move.
>>573393502Hey man I've watched top gear, that shit is accurate
>>573393502Yeah, but you also need to keep in mind that the floats/sinks status also depends on the cargo load, including your and your followers' weight. It's quite possible to overload it while its afloat and lose the entire thing along with all its cargo. So one should be careful when raiding aircraft carriers and such.
>>573396987It does say how much clearance you have so hopefully it's not a problem as long as you pay attention. Though I could see it becoming a fun surprise if you try to put something super heavy like a moose corpse on it.
>>573345314I think you should try putting a dummy character sprite (and maybe any items/effect particles) in there, because I'm worried you're gonna make this look good and then realize the depth effect is all fucked up the first time a character stands 3/4ths of a tile away from a solid (but seemingly 1/4th full, or vice versa) brick wall without occluding it or anything.
>>573349429For a lot of thing it's really significant, practically eliminates recoil at all (closeby targets or refiring on the same target goes from "3 entire turns to reaim" to "half of a turn to shoot again"Pretty worth it but as anon said you need a table, window or upturned pile of dirt for it- You absolutely CAN bust out the shovel at 50 range and then throw a noisemaker down if you want to big dick it but otherwise it'll make your shooting worse.
>>573382637No.The chance is no.
Quasimorph 1.0 in just over 3 weeks!
>>573406112Good job, you killed the thread
>>573393502I think the boat stuff is super ancient and nearly untouched from all that time ago, probably because it's so rarely used that no one is interested in bothering to update it. It's almost never worth it to construct your own boat, most bodies of water are too small and also tend to have boats already available on them.I always thought it would be cool to travel to the ocean and build a gigantic mobile boat base, but it's a huge pain in the ass to get there and at least when I did it, the game runs like total shit when you get there presumably because you have to reveal so much of the map on the ridiculously long journey.
>>573414018>presumably because you have to reveal so much of the map on the ridiculously long journey.That can't be it, the game only loads a number of chunks of map tiles in a radius around you. That's why searching for a map tile that you know you've seen can still fail if it's far enough away, those tiles aren't even scanned. That's over and above the reality bubble which means very few of those map tiles' contents are loaded in memory, no, I'm talking about just the overmap.
>>573415212well I don't know what it was then, because I started a new game, spawned a helicopter and traveled directly east until I hit the ocean which took forever. And when I got there the game was so choppy and laggy it was unplayable.
>>573415426Yeah I don't know either. Could be something with large map coordinates. Could maybe test it by deleting the map file and reloading the save, that'd force it to regenerate the map. Or crash, depending on whether DDA has gotten more fragile since I last hated myself enough to play it.
>>573415809Or you could start a new game and debug teleport yourself all the way over without generating map tiles inbetween, I guessAlso page 9 bump
>>573405070It's like thisI think I'll just have to accept this for now
>>573301551A bit late but I think they were removed in the latest stable, I'm not seeing any debugging around
>>573420949Why not follow my suggestion to extend the tiles beyond their confines? It's a fairly standard thing to do for this kind of game. Are you rolling your own engine, or using somebody else's?
>>573421143They were probably gone before BN forked, then. I doubt they'd have intentionally removed them.
>>573423881I'm doing it on my ownThe issue with extending the tiles is that effectively I'll have to make another layer of walls behind the top wall for example to have enough space and this is very hard to do during procgen
>>573414018Having the game set in an archipelago could be fun. You start off being washed ashore after being shipwrecked on some island and have to fashion a canoe or raft to leave; then you go around looting small islands to improve and expand your ship.I even started sketching on a mod to make this real some years ago but I never got far. In my head it was easy just remove roads and bridges, make forests and cities smaller, and then replace the fields with water. But things are never easy and I couldn't get the worldgen close to what I wanted, not to mention things like enemies spawning in the water.
>>573424086Oh no, don't do that. Assuming you've assigned Y to the verical axis and 0 is the top of the map, what you need is to basically have the tiles at Y+1 overhang the tile at Y. Have a hastily doodled illustration. You'll need to ensure you're drawing the tiles in ascending order from the top down, but then you can do things like have a tree that stands high enough the player can be partially hidden behind it. You can also split the overhang off as a separate "draw this on top of tile Y" thing and add transparency to let players see through it when an object is on the obscured tile. Probably not necessary if it''s just the top of walls now and then, as they'll only cover the bottom of the tile and you're centering objects so even small ones will be above the overhang.
>>573425725Ah I see. This is probably worth trying.I'm slightly skeptical because I dislike those overhangs in games, and I have plans for stuff that shows up on the lower half of the character sprites like mounts. But it's probably worth trying (the extra transparency feature might be too much to attempt, I've had enough issue implementing line of sight).
>>573426142Shouldn't have any issues with LoS, this doesn't need to change the contents of the tiles, it's purely cosmetic if you code it right. And if you like, the "transparency" can be as dead simple as "if there's anything at all in the tile above, draw the short wall instead of the overhang one"
>>573423997>>573421143>>573301551It's a global unique, I believe and also needs to spawn quite far from cities in a forest tile.It's definitely still in the game and you can even debug it in (debug menu, map, overmap editor, place overmap special, search for strangle_temple) if you find a petrified eye and really want to try it out.
>mfw I didn't roll a radiogenic masochist just to hunt for retarded self-recharging artifacts that grant infinity pain, radiation, healing and mon_confusion
>>573434867so this is basically a bad fart
Got my guy up to third level, and he's beginning to feel unstoppable. Trickwire kicks ass. It's good you can't grab bare walls or else it'd be ridiculous.
cdda minor spoilers for hub 01you can just torch the door top right from the intercom and theres like 3 months worth of mres in there, maybe more and if you torch the doors to sneak inside via the hidden staircase, grenades dont seem to count as kills, so you can just murder your way inside pretty far without breaking trading. seems a tad broken.
>>573441510oh and everyone carries glocks with 22 round magazines, so if you were ever looking for high capacity glawk mags, theres a gold mine down there. not 33 round mags for some reason, im guessing its because 33 round mags dont fit in holsters
>>573060031I'm in a run with light amp goggles and prone is definitely boosting my effective range. It's probably a nice buff to high night vision starts.
>>573276715don't let them see youwalk it offmolotov and run awaysimple as
>>573255137you can just look up the source code but I'd advise you not tofew games still let you experience that
>every single farm is all cattle fodder>beet seeds nowhere to be foundslav erasure
>>573426687So currently it looks like this. I think it's a big improvement however it does look a bit weird when I'm to the south of the wall due to the LOS.Overhangs currently count as part of the cell above the shaded wall. The shaded wall block vision, so the overhang will also be shaded (out of view), but that looks a bit weird. If I stand to the north of the wall, it looks fine.This can be worked around but I think it's probably a bit of work in Godot since all the renderings right now are cell-aligned tilemaps and having per-cell rendering rule is also annoying performance wise in Godot (it can be worked around, but annoying).I'll stick to this scheme while I do something else though.
>>573457491You're doing the tacoma bartender quest, right?Seed quests are a pain in the ass. The bartender asks for 10 sugar beet seeds, the npc at the church retreat asks for 10 cactus seeds, the isherwood guy asks for 100 wheat seeds. But you only find seeds in places where you'd expect them to be in singular amounts, never in bulk. Sugar beets themselves are pretty rare if you want to extract seeds from them.Your best bet for finding enough seeds is either hitting up many farm supply stores/hardware stores/gardening supply - those have shelves with random seeds in them so you can often find 1-2 seeds per store, or finding enough city house variants with small gardens and farm buildings with small amounts of random seeds on the floor. Farm silos never have anything but cattle fodder, those are useless. You want farm buildings like the tacoma farm where there's a bunch of seeds on shelves in the cellar (the cellar stuff might belong to the faction but I'm not sure if duplicates of the variant actually belong to the tacoma faction), the big wine cellar farm houses - those also have some seeds, the farm house with tall hedges on one side - there's a bunch of plants and seeds behind the building, some farm variants have greenhouses with some seeds on the floor. But there isn't a single spot where you can find enough, you'll have to gather them one by one.
>Procedural level generation.>No metaprogression.>Permadeath.But also>Old school turn based Action Points management.>Freeform movement, no hexagonal or square tiles.Revisionists at roguebasin think it is a roguelike, berlin interpretation disagrees. Do you?
>>573467004>berlin interpretationi dont watch e-celebs
What about the Beijing interpretation
there was also the Berghain interpretation
but we should be focusing on the brazier interpretation
I'm fond of the Nanking interpretation.
>>573467004not tilebase, not simulturn autism says no I think
The Beijing interpretation>real time or turnbased, all time must be dedicated to work>land can only be a square grid, much like rice fields>death is natural, in fact death in millions should be expected occasionally>the individual may level up, but occasionally the admin may chime in and rearrange your level up choices>there is no RNG, there is only FSG (Feng Shui Generator)>meta progression must exist: is simply fortune accumulated from previous lifetimes
>>573483572>much like rice fieldssince when are rice fields always square
>Berghain brazier Nanking interpretationmy Favoritehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSHOtXa8Nx8
>>573411519I win!
You die so fucking fast in IA it's not even funny, it's driving me insane
*whistles*
Thoughts on Stoneshard and why it's really good or dogshit?
>>573504034I like it quite a bit.Got 270 hours out of it so far.It's pretty good at delivering the fantasy of a single mercenary roaming around, taking up contracts, hustling goods, exploring ruins, hunting game, taking down monsters, etc.
What's the least roguelike game that's still a roguelike?
>>573507919Arguing about definitions on /rlg/
>>573507919dark cloud
>>573507919elona+
>>573505826I was reading some dev log that it's just one map and they are starting work on the others now that gameplay systems are in place or soon to be all in place? Is it a large map?
>>573507919GearHead
>>573504034I played the demo for 30 minutes. It's dogshit because there's zero creativity to the writing or worldbuilding.
Rift wizard 3 released another patch, if anyone cares
>>573520698two useless spells reworked, very goodonly 100 more
On a bit of a roll today.
>>573521659>powerlessSo you just walk up to people and hit them with a really big sword?
These look abit. . .
>>573521821Two swords, but yes.
gef
>>573510437Yeah, it's huge.There's four settlements (three towns and one tavern) that can give you procedurally generated contracts to clear one the three dungeons belonging to one of the three enemy category (bandits, undead, or cultists).Then there's the major city - the capital of the territory you're in. It doesn't give out contracts directly, but it's the best place to sell and buy your stuff, and it's involved in a few quests.Settlements themselves offer a handful of static quests as well.All these key points are pretty far away from each other, so getting from one to another on foot takes quite a bit.However, you unlock the caravan system which acts as your quick travel + portable inventory after you complete the introduction quest.Quick travel uses some resources, so you're generally encouraged not to just mover around randomly, but shift your base from one settlement to another, and stick around for a while, completing quests and exploring the wilderness before moving to another key point.Speaking of wilderness, there's stuff around - a bunch of randomly generated points of interests, like brigand camps, hunting spots, or caves.Some static quest-related stuff as well.Currently, the main questline stops abruptly when you reach the main city, and that generally would happen after you complete the quest chain in the starting village.Afterwards, you basically just free-roam, guided by the suggested locations to get contracts and their recommended level.You get some sub-goals, like hiring the followers (static NPCs who improve the functionality of you caravan) and maxing out their trust; improving your reputation in the capital, so you can trade there properly and buy the best gear; completing local quests, including a couple of boss fights etc.However, for the most part, there's no more story after that point as of now.The devs are planning on finishing out all the systems by the end of this year (so think, the end of the next year) first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NJCpJZ19n8
Sun's gettin real low, big guy
>>573521417Am I blind or it doesn't even say in the patch notes what they changed about them?
I'm tired
>>573554056well shift + 4 then
Anyone play magiclysm mod for ddgay
Finally managed to steal a dossier without detection, though I had to bring an EMP bomb to make it happen because apparently a queued alarm from the previous level still played on the current one, unless I knocked out the alarm power before it happened. I mean I could literally enter the level, walk through three empty rooms and stand there, and it would tell me I failed and the facility was alerted. But no message about tripwires or anything. I save scummed and tried several different things but only the EMP worked. I wish Flemenco was less buggy.
>>573563741*a queued alarm from the previous /mission/, where I tripped something on my way to the exit and still managed to nope out before the alarm went off
>>573562120What does CDDA have that BN doesn't (that doesn't exist solely to make the game less fun?)>>573563741Yeah I played the tutorial and the like third room on my first contract randomly caused some fuckoff segfault. Feels like it has a lot of potential though, I love those spy/hacking style endless contract runner types
>>573564653CDDA has pockets, I guess.The #1 cause of segfaults for me turned out to be looking at beds in the barracks. Pressing x and pointing at them will crash the game on the spot. Using the trickwire over them will do it, too, since it includes a look-at-this-tile display too.
>>573564961Pockets only exist because CDDA wants to fuck your ass with "length" and shit.
>>573564653body part wounding/armor (shoot someone in the leg/head/dick)wearinessproficienciesweak pointsmore in depth food systembasically a more casual or more complex system is the difference
Do I really have to divine intervention?
>>573563741Yeah it's super buggy, I've had missions fail because the stairs straight up just don't spawn for the next floor before
>>573569068>achra in 4k resolutionThe technology!
>>572921673we dont eat peanut butterwe eat meat
>>573562120Me. I am a wizzard 'arry porrer
Random comment, but I really like the layout for the magic academy location from magiclysm. There's just something about it, it makes for an extremely comfy base>the tower library>the basement pool>the open air grassed walkways to the smaller student's roomsIt's so good, whoever made that layout nailed it
>>573584414So far I've never seen that happen, though I thought it did a couple of times. Check your map, stairs and vents can be hidden behind lasers and shit. Furniture won't cover them, but traps can.
>>573598858No I mean the stairs straight up didn't spawn so it wouldn't let me onto the next floor, I had to abandon the missionFuck, I probably should have sent the log to the guy or something, slipped my mind
Huh, I've been playing for days across multiple characters and there's always been stairs. Sometimes hidden, but there.My current (best) character's mission list, all successes, but with an * on this one 'cause I had to save scum and bring an EMP with me.
