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trying so hard not to get a boner in public that the cc song starts playing in my head
>>572663003Wulfgard...
Please support Arknights Endfield NOW.
Rossi's childlike body!
>>572663191Give me reasonTo prove me wrongTo wash this memory clean
Who do you think is the most "experienced" girl?
>>572663574You posted her
>>572663574Summer Chen alter will be covered in cum her element will change to water
Vidya butts mogs everything in this game, she is the be part of /end/, that's an unquestionable truth
>>572663574Everyone was a virgin until Pelican released the Endmin demon.
Ember is a virgin, actually
Censoring games to chase a non-existent audience deserve to fail.
Hope we get a 6* Perlica alt for anniversary
*stares autistically*
>>572663574Gilberta and Yvonne.
>>572665619chief.... help me...
>>572665619She looks somewhat sad.
>>572666409Endmin's cock is not hitting her cervix 24/7 so yes
>>572666548*Her cock*Endmin's cervixFtfy
UMBRALWHEN
>>572666409She's not sad, she's just disappointed. The Endmin of her memories was her pillar, her rock, the infallible thing that could solve any problem. She waited ten years for that Endministrator to return, doing everything she could in the meantime to ensure that person, the Endministrator of Endfield Industries, had a safe and orderly home to return to.and then your dumb ass woke up
I admit itI still haven't played CC
>have to wait 18 months for the next Rossi like UnitFUCKING HELL
>>572666987given the retard level iq of everyone else around, we are still pretty impressive.WOW IS THAT A DRONE THAT CAN, GASP, SPRAY WATER
There's no way to sugar coat it; only making 50m last month is a complete rejection by the audience, and drastic measures should be taken to secure the game's longevity.First and foremost, they need to sideline the factory - casuals don't understand it, while enthusiasts consider it too simplistic. Add farmable sources of Components akin to the Swordmancy trials so that people don't have to engage with the system, and pumps in Wuling City for liquid xiranite/heavy liquid xiranite. Rewrite Valley 4 to make the mandatory factory sequences sidequests instead of necessary for story progression. Add more repeatable quests for stock bills for now; make them give out about ten times as much as Swordmancy, so people can replace the factory with them. In the next region, just have these modes give out the mats directly instead of using the stock bill system, and only have ONE AIC area instead of of multiple - this should mollify the people who do enjoy the system, without making people who hate it feel like they "have" to engage.Meanwhile, players need SOME hook to stay engaged. Borrow the module system from Arknights to add a new piece of kit; unlike the failed gear system we currently have, make it farmable (with each attempt requiring sanity) and RNG dependent, so that people have a reason to try every day and get that dopamine hit when they get a really good piece of gear. To mollify the more casual crowd, make it upgradable so that every time you get a piece with a better statline, it can merge into your "main" module to improve that statline a step. If you don't make the RNG TOO aggressive, that way even relatively unlucky players can finish a module in about a month of dedicated farming, just in time for the new character.Remove the delivery system entirely. For old players, say the situation has stabilized enough Endfield no longer needs to be involved, for new, just never have it to begin with.New players aren't getting the message that it's unnecessary to do.
Is it safe to return to Leekwife big love posting?
>>572667231Alternately, if they're dead-set on maintaining their current niche rather than expanding the base, they need to be more aggressive with their monetization.Making dupes worth a damn would be a good start. It's nice to show support for your fave, but some cosmetics aren't worth splashing thousands of dollars on a year-one operator. A meaningful power gap between a zero-pot and max-pot unit would go a long way, once they introduce challenging content outside of CC. They don't need to be total assholes about it - they can make the breakpoint pot1 or pot3 rather than demanding max pot, and they can make them about 40% stronger rather than going into the stratosphere. But if you're not going to cast a wide net for your fish... You need to make sure the ones you HAVE hooked are spending.Adding packs worth a damn would also be a good step. Even if you WANT to whale, your choices are pretty much a ten-pull, and buying a bunch of OP. And frankly? It feels REALLY fuckin' bad to just be buying raw currency. Add a 50-pull pack at the exact same price point, and you'll get a lot more people considering it when they're weighing going for another dupe.You could also introduce new cash items for dealing with some of the game's other headaches - a perfect essence guarantee (like the one currently in the stock bill store, so it's not like it'd be disruptive to the balance), "better" gifts to build trust more quickly (as well as making it feel more special to give to your faves, compared to the mass-produced stuff you're giving everyone else), exclusive decorations.... This stuff can be done in a way to let people spend more freely without changing the underlying game balance or making people feel like they're losing out. HG shouldn't be afraid to cater to a premium crowd if they want to make a niche premium game.
it's no fairi don't wanna have to wake up from this daydreamyou're my daydream
>>572667231Its all due to fangyi long ass patch and Miffer not being up to parPeople dropped the game in mass from 1.2 and then those that stayed had more than enough to guarantee herAnd her pots were shit so no incentive to maxpot her, and if you got lucky with Mifu then you had enough for Camille too
>>572667231>>572668085>We need artifact grinding!>We need need paid qol!>We need powercreep and 300% dmg increase at max dupe compared to no dupe!Back to hsr you go
>>572668085>they need to be more aggressive with their monetization.>Making dupes worth a damn would be a good start.They should start by adding new 5*s along with one 5* weapon and a 6* weapon
Gacha first Game secondWe need better characters and story
>>572668165>>572667231Camille and Mi Fu are both underwhelming too, easily skippable units that don't really offer any benefits. Mi Fu is an easy skip side grade to Endmin and Camille is only a serious upgrade to Laevatains team and he has very little cross-team benefit. Tangtang and Gilberta for example can slot into most Arts teams without much issue, Camille really can't
>complaining pots aren't a requirement/overpoweredMein gott. What's the limit for how smooth brains can get?
>>572667231And of course, if they're not willing to do either, they can always just... Downgrade. Yeah, it looks bad to do that, but they're clearly aiming too high for what they're actually capable of delivering, and a clean break during the first year is better than sinking because you're too proud to start bailing.The graphics are wonderful, really, and they put a lot of care and attention into every facial expression and gesture in cutscenes. But look at their competitors - none of them go so far, and players are perfectly willing to accept it. And polishing things this much? Takes a LOT of time and money. Frankly, if they can deliver patches two weeks quicker by toning down the perfectionism, that'll probably make players a LOT more happy - that's arguably worth more than just the money they'd be saving on calling things done when it's "good enough" rather than going pointlessly far.Similarly, they're burning a ton of resources on bespoke quest locations that players can visit for an hour and then... Never see again. You know who else did that? Destiny, and it ended up ruining them. Yes, they're nice and atmospheric - but it's just not a good use of development resources! If Camille had chased Char around the power plant for the second half of his quest instead of a secret underground base, they could have hit all of the necessary plot points at a fraction of the cost and time. Since nobody actually went back to the power plant after their first week, it wouldn't even risk feeling "too samey" - it might even go over better, since it wouldn't challenge suspension of disbelief in the way that hiding a massive underground complex did.And they could also cut down on Umbral Monument and Cryptic Delver. These are, again, carefully crafted and bespoke experiences... That players spend five minutes on and never touch again. IT'S. NOT. A. GOOD. USE. OF. DEVELOPMENT. RESOURCES. You need something that players will spend days on, at the very least, like CC did!
>>572668827Erm u need pot2 and signature weapon to make ur char usable!
tl;dr, probably a bad A.I. written copypasta anyway
>Arcane is moderately hyped>Literally nobody cares for idol>Proxy is hard Chinese, if you didn't like Fangyi you probably wouldn't like Proxy.Pretty Grim
>>572669053it's probably copy pasted from reddit
>>572663574Isn't she S-ranked already?
>>572669118Idol needs an in game concert cutscene and she will sell
Complaining about game content is a moot point right now anyway since whatever complaints they received can only be implemented in 2.0 at the earliest. All 1.x content has been designed and developed before the game even releases.There's also rumors about IS or RA like gamemode being developed for months already that will come out later.
>>572668968>Umbral Monument and Cryptic Delver.Umbral has gameplay and helps them try out future risks foe CCCryptic yeah needs to go, its a waste of resources and those could go to making a 5* per patch or working on future regions
>>572669194Idols don't sell in general. They are filler characters, like maids or bunny girls
>>572669118All 3 look good to me. Probably will paypig for pots for at least one of them. Probably whoever ends up being the Leek support. I hope the idol has a stereotypical cynical dark side
>>572667231And above all, regardless of what their original plans were... This clearly signals that they CAN'T keep putting so many pulls in permanent sources. That worked if people were sticking around - they didn't, and now they need to be sure that new players will at least CONSIDER spending. They're not going to open their wallets if there's a 1000+ pulls just lying around next year - especially since they're not going to be rolling for all of the year one operators, and will be budgeting them all for the NEW ones. Which, if you're not bending old players over a barrel at that point, means they might never actually clear out their saved stock of pulls.Cut the pulls from quest rewards and the chests. Instead, put them in non-repeating content. Doesn't need to be a copycat combat arena; if you want to feel "different", put them all in Carly's Storybook and food events and whatnot. What matters is that if you're not here for them, they're gone - that you have the same number of pulls for Chen Alter that all of the oldies do, and thus will consider opening your wallet just as much as the oldheads. This is NECESSARY for the game to have a chance at revival later, and nothing else will work if you don't.
>>572669372Hey, good for you. I don't want to yuck your yum. But I probably won't login until they release the next reconvener
>>572668803The best team right now is Rossi, Mifu, Camille and Pog, mainly physical with Rossi fire nuke
>>572669348No but the music can go a long way in marketing a game
>>572669137If it were copied, I wouldn't have taken so long between comments.... Though, in retrospect, I probably should have written it all up at once instead. Kinda hadn't expect to go on that long, desu.
You should thank me /end/, I saved the game with my $150 for miffers
>>572669710Sorry but Nyo it isn't. Personally I think this site is meaningless but it's one of the few objective measures we have. For other "objective" measures like boss speed kills the traditional Rossi team of Rossi/Perlica/Gilberta is still faster with various 4ths like Tangtang but I think some others like Ardelia have been able to slot in too and still be faster. What this really tells us is that>Mi Fu and Camille can get fast clears>By removing more optimal components from Rossis team and leeching off her powerHonestly most new characters would be at their best by just running Rossi/Perlica/Gilberta then sticking them on the End, it's kind of hilariously underwhelming. I really hope Sui/Idol/Bird girl bring some more interesting team setups to the game because until they do there is literally zero reason to roll new characters. Maybe whichever one enables a Nature focused team with Gilberta working properly.
>>572670206mta but it is currently the only team that cleared risk 54
>>572670206Camilles issue is it really takes too long to set everything up but he's definitely skippable if you have Tangtang already
>>572670206>By removing more optimal components from Rossis team and leeching off her power
>>572668323They might get a bad rap for a reason... But stated preference vs revealed preference, yo. Without artifact grinding, people notice how empty dailies are - the dopamine hit from them at least gives them a daily moment of happiness or sense of loss. It's something for them to look forward to, to keep them around until the next patch comes - because players are ALWAYS going to finish content faster than even super devs could provide. They are a NECESSARY part of any long-term content loop, as Endfield demonstrates - otherwise, you finish etching your essences and artificing your gear, and have... Nothing left to do, to improve your characters. So why keep logging in? And once you stop logging in, other games catch your interest, and you never come back.Similarly, paid qol and powerful dupes might rub people the wrong way, but it's the only sustainable way if you don't catch the mass market at this development pricepoint. Thankfully, there's no PVP so at least it won't screw up the game too badly. The whales can have their fun while the others can enjoy the game in peace.
>>572670593Yes, correct thank you for the data to back it up
>>572670206>le big deeps>le big numbersgachabrains really just can't get away from old habits
>>572670672>Mifu 54%.72% of the team damage>Rossi 33.48% of the team damage?
>>572670783That's right, excellent, now post the results of Rossis best team without Mi Fu, then post the results of Mi Fus best team without Rossi, I think you'll quickly realise which character is relying on the other
>>572670672Rossi is there to give vulns to mifu and the eventual fire nuke
Leek team for me until the /end/
>>572670746It didn't have to be about DPS numbers at all, people correctly predicted Mi Fu would be underwhelming when her show case came out and it was revealed>She was not a striker>She doesn't more efficiently apply Vulnerability stacks than any current unitsThis meant she was almost certainly not going to open up more efficient or interesting rotations and instead would entirely sink or swim based on her base skill stats to compete with Endmin/Da Pan, while her Ultimate certainly packs more of a punch that made people look at her twice she just ended up being underwhelming generally. As for Camille he had the opposite problem, from his showcase people assumed he would be absolutely broken giving so many debuffs and his weapon being the "Thermite Cutter" for spears. But when he released reality struck and despite having lots of debuffs, all of the numbers were so low and restrictive (Heat only unlike Tangtang buffing Arts generally) that he immediately became a sidegrade Tangtang even on heat teams. His one redeeming factor is his ease of applying Heat Afflictions in group situations which makes Laevatain feel great against multiple units. Nature is lacking so anything will be good for that kind of team but if units want to be good for existing teams and they're intent on not making new units strictly stronger, they need to do interesting things like add inflictions or reactions on combo skills/skills in ways we don't currently have. It's what makes Chen amazing, it's what makes Gilberta and Perlica amazing and it's what will actually make future units worth rolling
Took a big fat Endfield today while showering and had to stomp it down the drain.
why would i play this game when whaling is worthless and pots do nothing?i dont want to be with poors
The mifu-rossi-pog-camille's team is superior for the fact that they're a proper team with proper synergy instead of meme arts % slopRossi's vuls are being used, Mifu's crush is being used, pog's full kit is being used, camille's full kit is being usedThey can also clear R54 because they're versatile, while rossi-perlica-tangtang-gilberta can't
>>572671627>meme arts % slopI don't disagree the generic arts buffers are slop but running multiple "elements" in one team is even more sloppy and lacks synergy for the same reasons. If Camille was more like Gilberta in that he gave both heat buffs and vuln stacks it would make more sense but right now it's just a ragtag team that falls behind pure Arts buffing. It would be fun in future if we got a real 6* heat supports that does something like Vuln Stack on Skill -> Heat Affliction on combo, that would really open up Rossi as a support character but right now you have to awkwardly force her into that position
Why did Lowlight turn this game into yaoislop?
>>572672021>falls behindIn what content? fucking rodaghn speed runs?surely you should be looking at CC max risk instead of that
>>572672083>play yaoi character>complain about yaoi
>>572667231Dude just fuck too wuwa and NTR with this bullshit
>>572672171Comfort, damage generally and speedruns if you like, if we were to judge it based on CC then Wulfgard and Estelle would be near the top of the rankings and we could skip most 6* units but as we know CC exists to encourage abnormal teams and setups, not showcase what the good team comps actually are because you're not going to take them into most other content
>>572672083Male character was always the Yaoi route? The opening cinematic made it clear he was a homosexual and there's nothing wrong with that
>>572672428Estelle is completely irrelevant for true high risk, no one uses her to push 53+.Not being able to deal with what CC brings makes a team inferior, since this is our first piece of actual endgame>>572672171and just to be clear, I don't even play the worm team, I play Ice and bunny electric like a retardbut its easy to accept its better than the rainbow team
>>572671420Mifu is functionally a striker. I don't know why they gave her a guard class, but it doesn't matter
>>572672573using CC as a bench mark is a litte stupidbut the takeaway is that Gilberta is SS+ rank, again
>>572672573>Estelle is completely irrelevant for true high riskExaggerating a bit now aren't you? If you don't want to discuss it then you may as well just close the thread or filter comments
>>572672763As opposed to what? IS?
>>572672693>Mifu is functionally a striker.Nah she's not strong enough to be a striker sadly
>>572672839Its true though unless you find me a single 53 or 54 estella clear
>>572672083Top is unironically more masculine and heterosexual than the bottom
>Remove factory>Remove action slop combat>Remove story>Remove Rossi>Turn game into Dungeon Defenders30+ mil a month game right there.
>>572673007It's not true and I'll tell you why, go look at Endfields CC website and see how many people doing the higher risk clears are using Estella, it's 50% or higher. Now go look at what % of players clear 51-52-53-54, spoiler, it's like 0.001% that will do 53-54. And as far as I'm aware every single one of those clears is full whales, mostly Fangyi whales. To justify your view that Estella isn't relevant you would have to dismiss 99.999% of people playing this game, including 100% of /end/ and then you would have to explain away why most of the fanart for this event is of Estella. What the giga chinese whales manage to do is what's irrelevant because it is spending $10k for a gimmcky set up that perfectly matches what CC asks of you, it's just not relevant to, well anything really
>>572673348>Remove Rossiyou're right, she set the bar too high
Suzuran reconvener will be OP as shit if she stays a loli
>>572674247brown
>>572674287brown will be the cock that goes ibside of her, yeah
>>572674287you are trans
SEAGods please post new Umbral stages, it's the first time we didn't get the datamines in advance
Youre a tran brown
The Marathon of gacha games
>>572672083Those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend. The rest of us know that though we can have erotic love and friendship for the same person yet in some ways nothing is less like a Friendship than a love-affair. Lovers are always talking to one another about their love; Friends hardly ever about their Friendship. Lovers are normally face to face, absorbed in each other; Friends, side by side, absorbed in some common interest. Above all, Eros (while it lasts) is necessarily between two only. But two, far from being the necessary number for Friendship, is not even the best. And the reason for this is important.... In each of my friends there is something that only some other friend can fully bring out. By myself I am not large enough to call the whole man into activity; I want other lights than my own to show all his facets... Hence true Friendship is the least jealous of loves. Two friends delight to be joined by a third, and three by a fourth, if only the newcomer is qualified to become a real friend. They can then say, as the blessed souls say in Dante, 'Here comes one who will augment our loves.' For in this love 'to divide is not to take away.
The fgo Arcade of Arknight
The Granblue Relinked of Arknights
>>572672083Girls are scary
>>572676483Relinked is better
>>572676363ZOOT, forfeit all of your previous tasks and post a dancing Closure.
>>572676483relink more like rePEAK!
>>572676690the funny thing about Ai is now it just exposes uncultured retards since whenever they don't recognize a quote or a text is too long they just assume it's Ai.
>>572676921/end/ can't read thoughbeit
>>572676483Relinked is actually fun and addicting
AK fighting game...
>>572676921maybe humans should try writing more differently now that AI has taken over
Is umbral out for asia yet?
>>572678554Yes, I'm clearing it now, piss easy compared to CC as expected
Who wants them?
New Umbruh:>1st stagePrisms and Hedron. Outside of shielding, Hedrons also buff attack and can't be interrupted (filler stage)>2nd stage2 purple Tidewalkers with 1 new ability (filler stage)>3rd stagePyromancer boss that summons other pyromancers that give him a shield that makes him untargetable. Killing other pyromancers makes main pyromancer targettable. Not killing all pyromancers in a set amount of time forcefully applies combustion on all your operators.
>>572679108>3rd stage
Endfield is the best gacha in the market right now
>>572679429LMAAAAAAAAAAAAO
It's just depressing at this point
What gugu'd the gaga?
potential game
>>572678752And done, the first set with the rocker duo is still the peak.
Good morning saarAnother day another dollar
>>572679683It's ok to get mogged by our mother gameNow WuWa on other hand.......
I'm still not playing genshin, wuwa, nte, zzz, or blue archive.Suck my balls.
not even gonna bother logging on until the next major update
Am i supposed to connect origin lodespring with the science park's power or do i wait until i unlock the sub-pac in power plateau?What way is the correct one since lodespring doesn't seem to have a factory
>>572679108>4th stageRakerbeast is under permanent enrage with tenacity. (filler stage)>5th stageA lot of Aethillu. Controlled operator is getting stunned for 8 seconds at set intervals (can't move, can't dodge, can't do anything) (the best stage)>6th stageSkydrummer boss fight. Every time Skydrummer deals damage to a controlled operator, it generates a whirlwind. When enraged, Skydrummer consumes all whirlwinds and gains protection for every whirlwind consumed. Every time operators apply vulnerability or arts inflictions, 1 stack is deduced.Overall, only 5th stage is cool
>>572679902Please aim lower bwoBaby steps
>>572680152Please
>>572680152I connected from the science park
>>572680413Latter. Power Plateau can be self sufficient. Just power through the main story and unlock and sub AIC
Abysmal dogshit thread as usual endbabs
>>572680873Thanks for the buzzwords indian kid
now that the dust has settledhow should we reminisce Enfield
We shouldnt call it a relaunchCall it... Endfield reconvener patch
>>572681174I still remember when there was stuff to do, you know, like, content...
>>572679683It'll be interesting to see what happens with AK over the next few months since everything that isn't a quarterly limited banner is a total skip.
>>572681415I need to spend $5 million on the Haruka rerun because I skipped her first time don't worry about it
>>572680197I can't take it any more
>>572681646Madness. I wouldn't have skipped her, but I definitely didn't expect I'd max pot her like I did along the way to sparking for Hoshi.
So, according to the doomposters and shitposters, the game should:>Introduce much stronger potentials, pushing an already problematic gacha system to the extreme.>Remove the artificing system, so it can align with other gachas in stat grinding and daily refreshes.>Remove the Factory, a unique feature, instead of doubling down on its niche.>Aim for yet another cringy ML route instead of going back to the grimdark roots of Arknights.>Add endgame content based on very tight timers, so everything revolves around the meta and powercreep while flattening enemy movesets.>Add climbing/swimming to the gameplay, destroying the level design and exploration just to become even more another generic open world #465.All this just to climb a bit higher on a AI meme chart posted on Leddit every month?
Grinding my rocks, saving my rocks. But for who?
>>572682037The game should EoS and put that money and talent toward their more successful property and making a game that isn't a fucking gacha.
>>572682051The inevitable Mooseless woman cometh
>>572682037Unironically feedback like this is what made Endfield what it is right now. I didn't really like Endfield tech test, but most feedback was very simillar (3d slop gachatards wanted Endfield to look like their games). HG started catering to them but surprise, the "core audience" still doesn't want it.
>>572682037Yes. Genshin, Wuwa, and NTE proved that it's what the players wanted.
>>572682037The factory should go, bro. It legitimately doesn't appeal to anybody. Factorio players don't care for it because it's too simple, everybody else dislikes it for being a hassle. It doesn't fit with the rest of the game. The developers know this and don't know how to fit it in either (just have some heavy xiranite to do this story segment instead of having to interact with the factory at all).It's a fucking eyesore that lost its niche. Just let it go.
>>572679683>>572679902AK is the real depressing sight, two hyper limited banners only 4m more with a bigger mobile player base
>Le grimdarkEven year one wuwa/genshin are more "grimdark" than Endfield, bwo
>>572682037All it really needs is doing 1 5* per patch and add better packs for dolphins then it will make more money naturally over time
if they drop the factory i drop the game. shrimple as that.
>>572683062we killed TATA now cry
if they drop the factory i drop my child on the head, i fucking date you lowlight
if they drop the factory three of my friends will return back to the game
>>572683307SPOILER TAG YOU FUCKEEEEER
>>572679683doombabs saw that duplicated revenue and instantly started shitting their diapers
indians putting overtime today huh, or rather yesterday.
>>572682987Yeah let's get rid of existing audience in our chase for ethereal hoyotard audience that is 100% coming to Endfield the moment AIC is out
>>572683013A lot of chinks, especially whales, are playing Arknights on PC. There was NGA survey last year and 60% of chinks were playing on the emulator
>>572683958Emulator still counts towards the sales number nigga. It literally emulates mobile os.
>>572684019No they don't? The semi-official mumuplayer emulator emulates Android but the sales numbers come from IOS.
>>572684019Also it were stats from the last year. Since February Arknights CN has a PC client, so I'd expect more people to switch to playing AK on PC ( as there's no need to bother with emulation/some PCs can't handle emulation well)
>>572684081It's also google play numbers which android emulators use
>>572683958Emulators count to playstore/ios and we know nothing about AK PC port
>>572684180What google play, retard? There's no Arknights CN on google play. There are 2 mobile clients for Arknights CN: HG own client that they release and update on their own website and bilibili client that's updated via bilibili games.
sisters... they might bring the wolf guy back...
>>572684275>>572684081>>572684335Jeetchart literally uses a multiplier for CN android revenue. They can't track it. They just take IOS numbers and multiply it by 1.5.
>>572684438What's he doing in wuling?
I will do a futa fangyi but should i do anything else also?
>>572684970Camille forma de Teekaz Worm
>>572682037>>Introduce much stronger potentialsYes, potentials are worthless at the moment.>>Remove the artificing system, so it can align with other gachas in stat grinding and daily refreshes.Yes, we have concrete evidence that people need this to stay engaged.>>Remove the Factory, a unique feature, instead of doubling down on its niche.Remove is excessive, but we'll only get a wide audience if we sideline it to the point that people never have to touch it, sad to say. It can still be used for funsies, though - some kind of optional rewards that don't touch on any of the other gameplay.>>Aim for yet another cringy ML route instead of going back to the grimdark roots of Arknights.No, that'd fuckin' suck. Though OG Arknights wasn't grimdark either, people claiming that never actually read the game and just listened to highlight reels from people pushing an agenda.>>Add endgame content based on very tight timers, so everything revolves around the meta and powercreep while flattening enemy movesets.Endfield can probably do its own thing here, but it needs to actually DO it. Like making a new CC every month "do it". Defaulting to the quoted would be the "bad but quick" option.>>Add climbing/swimming to the gameplay, destroying the level design and exploration just to become even more another generic open world #465.No, that wouldn't fit Endfield at all.>All this just to climb a bit higher on a AI meme chart posted on Leddit every month?50m a month isn't sustainable. The amount WILL drop from here, and at that point, the devs won't have any margin for error if they misfire for a patch (like another Fangyi incident). We need to recover to a more sustainable position, and that means we need to make certain compromises to market realities.
>>572684970Fangyi domming Perlica could be neat...
We need more goth girls.
The absence of anything
>>572685065>Yes, potentials are worthless at the moment.They're going horizontal investment route, Arknights way. Theyr'e going to sell you some obscure utility that will come useful once in a while. >Yes, we have concrete evidence that people need this to stay engaged.Horizontal investment requires easier character building. Thanks to Endfield gear system I can make a new character build for some obscure shit (like combo damage Arclight for CC) at virtually no cost.>But we'll only get a wide audience if we sideline it to the point that people never have to touch it, sad to say.That will alienate existing audience and getting new audience is not guaranteed. >Endfield can probably do its own thing here, but it needs to actually DO it.They're kinda doing it already, but there's sadly just no honest hard mode that tests your mechanical execution and account. CC is obscure gimmick check (which is fine), Umbral is closer to a midgame mode. To continue doing things their own way they need to maintain the horizontal investment philosophy. Sadly, 3d gachatards aren't able to comprehend that. >50m a month isn't sustainableYou're overestimating development and marketing costs. Gacha have ridiculous profit margins and the only 2 ways for Endfield to EOS is to either fall below 500k/month or HG axing it due to opportunity costs (not probable because despite everything, Endfield is still a passion project for HG higher-ups).
>>572685473which is why not adding 1 5* character per patch is doing more damage to the game than what they save in money
>>572685945True. They really need to release more 5* and maybe make the cost of leveling lower rarity units less.
>>572685473>They're going horizontal investment route, Arknights way.>Horizontal investment requires easier character building.This works for the OG, because they had team sizes of 12 and it was considerably cheaper to develop a new character. But in Endfield, we just don't get new characters often enough for that to work, and every character has to pull their (financial) weight; it doesn't particularly matter if 6* Swire doesn't catch fire in the OG, but here, that's a substantial loss of revenue. Similarly, because every character is such a bigger focus in the team, people want to experience the joy of raising them to the max; it's not something you really feel in a team of 12, but it's much more noticeable in a team of 4. RNG gear is a good way of tickling that completionist sensibility, properly implemented, while strong potentials encourage you to tickle that "support your oshi!" stan complex.The models of the game are simply different, and it's important to align development priorities with the reality of the genre.>That will alienate existing audience and getting new audience is not guaranteed.Well, they're already doing it to an extent - you don't NEED the factory for most story progression as-is. If you included a couple more big sources of stock bills, a way to get meaningful number of Components without the factory, and a Liquid Heavy Xiranite pump in Wuling, you'd probably solve the issue without pissing off existing players too much. Then, you just need to bring Valley 4 up to this standard.>You're overestimating development and marketing costs.Personally, I feel that you're underestimating them; this costs dramatically more than the OG to make, and requires considerably more staff to boot. This isn't TOF - they put a lot of effort and money into every aspect of the game. If they go much lower in revenue, a singly hiccup could endanger the company.
I still can't believe that fucking Lizhiyan is our half anni unit
>>572669484endfield battlepass is pretty much the best in the gacha space and I bought it all the way up to leek release until china fatigue hit me, game is basically all show no tell. so overall that's a solid purchase in my opinion.now the monthly pass is trash and needs a redesign, they gotta remove the fucking expiring sanity shit.problem is that how do you make money when the playerbase already left?
>>572686459They had enough revenue from Arknights to support 4 years of development. A lot of AAA live service games WISH they had gacha revenue Endfield has.
>>572686808sui proxy
>>572686937Thats afirst anni unit
>>572686968no sui proxy is 1.5
>>572687212But half anniversary is 1.4?
>>572669484Might be the most retarded post I've seen in all the Endfield threads to date
>please we need to be raped more, that's how the game can make more Gs and rank top in the revenoo chartdo redditors really?
Game launched in January 22That means half anni is July 22We're gonna be in a awkward spot in the middle lf patch 1.4
>>572687258sorry meant 1.4sui proxy 1st halfarcane second halfidol 5 star
Chinks don't really do big things for half anni / anni like koreansWe'll be lucky to get a tenner. And very lucky with a pot item
>>572687370That would be cool, but I think they're leaving proxy until Wuling finale. In 1.4 teaser we still see only her butterflies
>>572687489Arknights gets its biggest events on anniversaries and half-anniversarieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKXCM66f68
You get what you deserve.
>>572687336If we're agreeing to it for the Greater Good, I think that's prostitution on our part instead of rape.
>>572687680Camille mogs everyone else depicted there, desu. And it looks like he did about three times as much as Mi Fu did.
>>572688396what a kissable (carnally) gugugaga
>>572688396Our little baby is growing up all wrong...
>>572668085Are you SURE, this will increase the FUN & Gameplay?
LeekwifeBIGGEST LOVE
The easiest example you can see is NTE with their f2p currency that you get from doing in game activities like selling your fish, racing, mahjong, taxi/delivery, fight club, etc. It gives the players more gameplay to try and play other than the combat and make use of the city setting and driving mechanic. Endfield on the other hand, just have the f2p currency acquired through doing nothing. You log in, you buy item, sell it for more, and trade in material for it.
>>572669484>They're not going to open their wallets if the-sell skins>>572668968>The graphics are wonderful, really, and they put a lot of care and attention into ev-sell skins
imagine how hard skins in this game would go. It's a big thing back in OGAK too. I guess they're just too focused on finishing the game's core gameplay and contents first before doing that
>>572689881we will get skins after 2.0 for sure
>>572689971We're following genshin 1:1 so we're getting skins and it'll have different color vfx and then never again.
i uninstall
hey slurpers how we doing today
Stream is on the 10th of July
>>572682037I love how you fags still pretend censorship has nothing to do with the game dying.
>>572690097>WuLang>but purple and orangeriveting designs
>>572687370>idol 5*proof?
we should've made a temporary truce and joined nefarith in bombing wuling
>>572690316Also blue
alive (dead) game
>>572689064It's more about ensuring that we can afford to keep the fun we already have. But buying premium gifts for our operators DOES sound pretty nice, the more I think about it... Like, imagine buying Rossi a giant teddy bear, complete with an animation of you handing it to her, or Wulfgard a gun maintance kit, with you showing him off the deets. That'd be pretty cool, honestly!>>572689789Well, yeah. But me telling them that is kinda like teaching your grandmother to suck eggs - they know that skins sell and how to make them. Problem is, apparently it's a lot more expensive on their part if they want it to meet their standards, which is why they said they're not coming in the first year.
If OOB exploration is to be believed, it seems that North Exclusion Zone is going to have a main AIC area and 1 sub-pac.
Don’t Open, Bald Guga inside
>>572690657gaga...
>>572690316In color theory that means that we are almost at the end of wuling as it's using sunset colors, but it was also pretty obvious that we are near the end of wuling, likely it ends in 1.5
>>572690657what happens when you dry age xiranite
>>572690398we should marry Nefarisu and make her Queen of Endfield Industries and rule Talos-II with our Aether-Originium babies
>>572690097>ugly lighting and ruined landscapepower plateau of wuling
>>572690657Let's gonna make a side dish
>>572690783maybe maybe not. there needs to a new chinese zone to bring back chinese players.
>>572690783>likely it ends in 1.5Lmao. here's 4 more maps and take into account that this version is outdated. We're in Wuling until 1.7 (that should release around December)
>>572691038>Nefarith >E and I in yellow>EI>Endfield Industries Bros????????
>>572691202yeah that map doesn't have sword vault dale, marker stone is two areas fused together, and it looks like Test Area is both of those top areas into one too.1.4 likely will be what's to the left of Wuling and 1.5 the connection on the right leading into a new region. I really can't see this 1.7 that you speak of considering that Valley IV has 6 zones and we are already at 6 in Wuling
>>572691282ENDMIN IS TRAITOR
>>572691526>that map doesn't have sword vault daleLater version had that, I just lost the image.>marker stone is two areas fused togetherNo, there should be 2 more areas in the south-west>And it looks like Test Area is both of those top areas into one too.There's literally test area on the map. The areas on top are North Exclusion Zone and Northern Plateau>1.4 likely will be what's to the left of WulingIt's going to be NEZ and Plateau. 1.5 might be Wuling suburbs as it will be a smaller patch>the connection on the right leading into a new regionWhat's the point of "connection" into a new region if new region will be in completely different area of the planet?
>>572691734What's the source of this? I'm interested
what the hell is bagschizo doin’ ova der?
>>572691985Chinks out of bounds map exploration. Try looking up out of bounds exploration Endfield on bilibili
>>572692110my guy is going for greener pastures....next he's gonna ask about age, and Typhon reconvener
>>572687680But blade made bank? Just make the male giga meta
>>572692110Just another redditor...
>>572692110/end/ is truly a reddit colony
>>572692921Every general is a reddit colony, the only difference is how proactive posters are at shaming each other for visiting reddit.
>>572691038We should marry Neferith in her dragon form
>>572692961I'm going to downvote any of you fuckers who go to Reddit!
>>572690410we harvesting Blight alien herbs?
>>572691202at least two of them will be filler like test area and sword valley
Payday today. Time to support Endfield Industries
>>572682037Yeah that's just bullshit. What the game currently does is perfectly fine and is a breath of fresh air:>Have a single-player, linear map design>But at the same time not have a story to match a single-player game>But also have long patch cycles>And low amount of content per patch, resulting in 30+ days of logincore>Archaic and contrived gacha system with all the usual red flags and more
>>572693350There's still a whole week until my payday...
>>572693487NTA but I have all of the operators that I care about without spending a single dime, and since I play some other shit it's nice not having to worry about FOMO too much, this game already holds a place near and dear to my heart
>>572694087Yeah, just like AK, EF is this vague "game of my heart" kind of thing. Which is just a codeword for "game for no one".
>>572694279TRVKE
>>572694279If I like it then it's a game for (me)
/end/ is on a sinking ship and these mfs think everything is alright, lmao
>>572694496oops, forgot my image
Nakadashi corrected Nefarith for 1.6 banner btw
>>572694585only way to save the game
>>572693130no thats in 5.0 when we realize the blighters aren't so bad after allit'll be a factory mechanic
nefarith is our homura
>>572691202jesus christ there's no point sticking around this game, gotta wait YEARS until they release a region and it's characters
>>572695473god I love Sargonian womenXanthos is such a faggot
Leaving not-China will save this game
>>572695691I want a tundra map or autumn forest
>>572695691Leaving not-China won't fix shit gameplay, exploration, characters, story etc
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>>572695994It's just not the same without him...
>>572695994OFERTON
>>572695891Worked for wuwa
>>572696118Wuwa devs are not fart sniffer evil chinks
>>572696118>wuwa is now returning to not!China
>>572696178Tencent is and Kuro are a tencent's slave
>>572696256HG is million times more evil than Tencent
>>572696379>HG is million times more evil than Tencent
>>572696379my guy just be saying shit lmao
>>572696379Is this the face of an evil man to you?
>>572696379wow, I thought being a Kurodrone was just shitposting
Would she be experienced during sex or a complete virgin?
>>572696379>
>>572696849She's an autistic workaholic so a complete virgin
>>572696849>young researcher full of joy surrounded by her seniors, all of them glaze and are amazed at everything she doesnon virgin
>>572696849Latter. She's a workaholic and been saving herself for (you). Most experience she's had is a decade ago if you're running on the assumption (you) boned her back then
>>572696118But wuwa had great story and characters...
>>572697092Wrong
35 year old fertile virgin leekwife big love
>>572697092every wuwa character gets destroyed by either chen or tangtang alone, their characters are laughably superficial
>>572697171>35 >virginthat's rarer than a unicorn
I nearly, NEARLY tried Wuwa because of Chisa. Then I found out about how characters get treated
>>572697252Kylins are a long lived race. Time scale works differently for them
I actually landed exactly on 100k. Now that's incredibly unlikely to happen in this game. You can't even cheat with premium currency, because each turns into .. 75? Or something.Was 25 short and what did the credit store have? 25 jimmies for 200 credits.
At least Arcane and Idol won't do as bad as Camille, right?
nyus!?
>>572697483Arcane will do fine but Idol is going to flop.
>>572697186Nyot really...Even their NPC mog our playable chars...
You wouldn't a 30 year old hag, right?
>>572697529I'm expecting Arcane to do Mi Fu numbers and Idol to beat Camille and become our worst banner
>>572697716Immediate marriage
Finally swung back around to try the new risks
Spending 10 Euro every patch is my humilation ritual.
>>572698018You like it though, slut.
I buy every monthly, BP and roll tix bundle. And the odd arsenal bundle to top up
>>572697991HIGHER
>>572697483Idol might do well, but Arcane's going to flop. Arcane's character is similar to Mi Fu, who didn't do well.
Why does Chen need these drills so much?
>>572698190Maybe later
>Game is still making too much fucking money for improvement>not even stupid people would fund this>not even mentally challenged people would fund this>only bonafide Retards would do this>and i am one of them with my 10 Euros.
>>572698217only if they do another greatsword fiasco
>>572698225anal training
>last thing you see is cute hebe reaching supersonic speed targeting your positionnot the worst way to die that's for sure
>>572696379Gezz
>>572698780Roversis.... Wrong thread...
I'm sorry, wrong tab
>Fendmin player is a WuWa crossshitposterThoroughly unsurprising
>>572698780She looks like someone who keeps losing friends
>>572698986That's not me, I swear! I would never.
I only know Chendmin. Or rather.. Chenpipi.
Real guga enjoyer don't wear the mask
When I guguYou should gaga
Serious question, do you have hope for the future of this game?
>>572699597I'll decide when 1.5 preview dropped >more wormsShits fucked>cute girl We'll hang on for a while longer
Worried about the revenue, EndminisTRAITOR?
>>572699597I just play what gets released, roll for what operators tickle my fancy, generally have a good time and have my own thoughts on the content. Simple as
>>572699503I say gugu...You say...
>>572699597>still censored>will censor Arcane's leotardno
>>572700164*smooch*
>>572700179gugu
>>572699597Nope, that's why I dropped it for the time being. I don't hate it by any means and I'm not gonna go around throwing tantrums as if the game developers have betrayed me or whatever. The game had an amazing start, I've had so much fun going through the base Valley and Wuling. The exploration was really fun, building shit was fun, everything just felt fun in general. The story was really bland and mediocre, but I was still hoping that you know, you gotta start somewhere. But seeing how the patches fly by, there's basically nothing to do in the game, the patch cycles are extremely long, they're already recycling stuff despite the fact that the game is still extremely fresh (and plenty more stuff), I'm just not interested anymore. I would really like the game to get good eventually, but seeing it in its current state and where its headed, I don't think this is going to work
I'm one of the people that actually liked Aburrey QuarryIt's a pain in the ass to navigate there, but it reminds me of Nier
Reminder that loli del prologo is only one step away from checkmating us now.
we're never leaving china are we, game will EOS before we even close the dumb portal>>572699597if they add content maybe, but they've been adding less and less content with each patch to the point where there was zero factory stuff for this one so I can see the writing on the wall.Really don't know what they were thinking when they made combat this bad and then focused the entire game around it instead of any of the actually sort of fun parts>>572700326it was a kind of neat place to explore
>>572699597We need significant changes to the monetization model, and more inducements to keep people on the hamster wheel.But I have faith that HG will make the necessary changes. Probably in a better way than anything I thought up.
>>572700326It's not even that bad to navigate, I dislike lodespring more.
when was even the last time they had a surveyhave they just given up on that fully now too>>572700453haven't they had like, 2 other games in a similar situation dieI'd think they'd want it to not be a big loss but game companies are frequently stupid
>>572700179GAGA
>>572700326I think it was awesome, I've always liked it. And it has the best music
>>572700270Dumb baby. Gaga. You say gaga.
>>572699597>makes 10 million a monthnot really, no. They can keep making their low cortisol 3d gacha and I will keep enjoying it
>>572700556Gugu!Gaga!
>>572700548The >other 2 games are not gachas. Ex astris might've been them checking out unity's 3D engine before they decided to develop endfield and the other one was straight up a student proejct that they funded and published. Pupucom is still alive, things considered, ex astris is the one they just shelved.
>>572699597>Serious question, do you have hope for the future of this game?Not really no its been 6 months and there has been barely any improvements ill just keep playing until Azur Promilia or Ananta comes out and just drop EF if it doesnt get any better
>>572700731eh, we'll seeI mostly just wanted to see some cool places get 'real' maps instead of background pngs, and some of wuling has been neat, but I feel like most of the patch areas have been "and here's this other ancient place that looks big but is like 500 feet wide"the valley areas were a lot better in general even if the power plant was kind of ugly
>>572700548Ex Astris was an experiment in dabbling in pay-to-play games rather than a free-to-play gacha (and at least partially to develop technical experience in 3D environments) - it's not really the same thing. They had no real commitment to it, and when people said they weren't willing to pay, it was easy enough for them to shrug and return to everyone's comfort zone.Endfield, by contrast, is something they're expecting to support for a decade, and which is tied to stuff they actually care about. They might consider more aggressive monetization to be beneath them, but they have a lot of levers they can pull when the profit margins look like they're trending towards the negative.
>>572700985I feel like AP is taking way too long to actually release, they've missed their chance. Unless the game is REALLY REALLY good I don't have too high hopes for it.
It's because you didn't support Arknights Endfield NOW.
>>572699597yes, actually. when they added monkeys to the game it became clear to me that this is among the best games ever made. the next patch is going to be even better or I'll eat my sock that is clean and not stiff from masturbating to yvonne
>>572700985half anni is in a few weeks right? don't they normally try to do shit for those?though they seem to have already given up on the systems already in the game>Here's owl shit to upgrade the ship>Uhhh actually nevermind, no more owl shit, forget it, we're not doing that anymore>Here's uncap mats out the wazoo, you will not need them past week 1 but we will continue to pile them into areas>>572701098just feel kind of stupid doing shit for gacha currency when nothing in the gacha interests megot mifu from a free ticket after her banner left and she's, ok I guess? but the combat's not exactly thrilling in the first place
>>572667231The game's problem is it has no fucking content retard. Also the combat is garbage and needs a full blown overhaul.
>>572701239I already whaled once in Endfield though. They just need to give me the next good reason enough to whale again
>>572700512> I dislike lodespring moreI liked it. Except the part where you had to place relay towers all the way from science park. And the place with jump platform that lands you right on top of the mob spawn point.
>>572700164It's funny how she is not even angry at the Endmin here, she is angry at Ardashir for cockblocking her
Reminder that Valley 4 mogged Wuling
>>572701142>I feel like AP is taking way too long to actually releaseI mean I already heard its been censored? I'm just praying its good but might be cope since most gacha are just shit nowadays>>572701268>though they seem to have already given up on the systems already in the gameLowlife saying to stop getting the owl materials since they dont matter with a shit eating grin will never not be funny it just seems HyperJew themselves dont know what they want EF to be
>>572701578Not even you believe that
>>572701636Maybe he doesn't, but I do
>>572701578TRVKE
why is genshin on the moon now? that's cool as shit. when does endfield go to the moon?
>>572701636is that not a common opinion?wuling is prettier but that's about itbesides the big cave you drain which was kind of novel most of the puzzles/overworld/exploration stuff is better than valleyonly power plant I'd say is maybe worse than a wuling areawould make sense too since it's patch areas instead of a big thing made against eachother
>>572701620If AP actually comes out censored the game will die, it's like the biggest selling point of AP is that it's "sexy"
>>572701778nigga we are on the moon
>>572701636Running powerlines is more fun that soulless wifi.Sewage is not fun to deal with and forces you to do maintenance to unclog shit otherwise everything shuts down.Industrial aesthetic >>> muh plants slop
>>572701578I like "dirty" industrial visual style more, but they really improved on the map environment presentation since Valley 4.Still the only wuling zone I like more than the hub and power plateau is marker stone area.
>>572699597More than I have hope for your future...
>>572699597I will consider it when we leave chinkland
>>572701828>maintenance>selling stuff is now maintenanceI mean that's complaining on a higher level. Sure yeah it's kinda silly how one thing being maxed will shut down almost everything because it's all interconnected, but regardless, once there's space it'll resume.
New Umbral Monument is fun thoughbeit.
>>572699597>entire year of wuling>major patches have 1 hour of contentNo. Hope they turn it around by 2.0. I'll give the game another chance during 2.0/anniversary
>>572701778It's called Talos-2 because it's a moon of the gas giant planet Talos-1 you see in the sky
>>572702110>5 minutes of combatI wish I enjoyed the combat in the game, though this is apparently the norm for 3d action gachas, which is disappointing
>>572700164Is she really dead? Like confirmed dead?
>>572702131>>572701778There's also more than one moon, but Endmin threw Talos-V into the aetherside so there is at least one less.
>>572702212it's extremely obvious she is gonna be playable especially if you compare how they changed her for CBT1 to CBT2
>>572690097wtf that's over a week away
>>572702359Starting today, there're 2 dead weeks
>>572690783Bro, we're in Wuling forever
dx11 runs better than vulkan
>>572689359yeah but you spent many hours, maybe close to a hundred at this point, optimizing your factory and not copying blue prints, and building other infrastructure throughout the regions
>>572702258>Endmin threw Talos-V into the aethersideI guess I missed some of the notes because I don't remember it being mentioned in the game
>>572702587It was rossi's quest when she was just fanboying over Endmin. Probably didn't happen like that.
>this umbral has explodey bois>next CC may very well have explodey bois waveI'm scared
>>572690097>another week until trailer>probably another 2 weeks after that until patch and new bannerI'm going to fucking SHIT
>>572701961Wuling has been a letdown gameplay wise though. There was something special about physically connecting powerlines across valley 4, like death stranding's whole philosophy about building bridges. The Xiranite stuff really just removes that for no reason other than for convenience and for elevation purposes. But it's quite a soul vs souless comparison
>>572702746Talos-V just flew over my house...
>>572702878bwo we've known this since day 1 of 1.3. Check how many days are left on current BP
What do chinks say about the current state of the game?
>>572702110My stagger team felt pandered to with the pyromancer stage so that was fun, but yeah it's all too short.
>>572701828no, you just don't know how to build a factory
>>572703010i want my bird NOW
>>572703101I'm curious about that too
>>572701828>Sewage is not fun to deal with and forces you to do maintenance to unclog shit otherwise everything shuts dowBwo, my Wuling factories have been running lickety-split no issues for months
>>572702902Kinda agree. But energy lines visually going through walls in the caves always bothered me in Valley 4. And even though it wasn't completely fixed in Wuling, there's not as many caves you would need to bring power over.
>>572701804EF and AP are going to die because of censorship and Koreans will find a way to replicate these 3D chinksloppa and do it better without the bullshit from Beijing.
Gacha Connesseiur here.Here is how to save Endgame>All female characters love (You) and only (You)>Heavy waifu pandering and fanservice>1 worm per year lole>Factory replaced with cuddling and playing wrestling with your wives>Fix the camera so you can go low angles>Better combat and overworld exploration There. I fixed your game. Now you can profit.
>>572703794Kill yourself
>>572703794>All female characters love (You) and only (You)already happened>Heavy waifu pandering and fanservicewe have that>1 worm per year lolelow hope but we'll see>Factory replaced with cuddling and playing wrestling with your wivesImpossible. fujo gonna freak>Fix the camera so you can go low anglesWe can already do this>Better combat and overworld explorationimpossibru
>>572703794Love yourself
>>572703794Let an expert help you in getting love from other people
devs should close the game for 2 months like Snowbreak did and revampt it. Except in a good way
>>572703965I am not how it is now as I dropped the game months ago but at least make it so that your dailies are done when you dump your resin.As for exploration, they can give wall runs and jump and maybe a vehicle, basically copy WuWa.For combat, I have no idea, I know a lot of people were hyped for non-switch combat with all the characters on the screen but I guess the switchslop was standard for a reason...I hope you guys make it. I dropped the game back in the day mainly because dumping resin didn't complete my dailies, I was confused by the gacha system, found exploration/combat cumbersome and was really annoyed at the censored camera angles. Story was boring too.The game has really good characters models and cute animations. I think it can be really good with a little polish.>>572704240Thanks!
>le dropped the game>spends every waking hour of every day heremmmmmmmmmmhm
>>572697372how does I have prime number oroberyl then? If every spend and gain are round numberssomething is not right in this game ...
>>572704598>As for exploration, they can give wall runs and jump and maybe a vehicle, basically copy WuWa.map ain't big enough for thatbigger map = more cost so nuh uhYou'll get geyser and spring board and you will like it.
>>572698225she's a fan of Tengen Toppa
Couple of decently fun fights in Umbral. First time I actually had to learn some of the Skydrummer's moveset. But as expected, it's much easier and I've gotten way better at the combat due to CC. The twin tidewalkers were hilariously easy after all that blood sweat and tears in CC
What music does the Civilization Band make?
Endmin taking pictures for a literal child again.
>>572705212AI music
I play and support this game because it so conveniently feeds into my "not like the other girls" hipster tendency because it's actually an acquired taste gacha. And somehow it's my favourite gacha on the market
It's not going to stop being shitposters when objectively wrong stuff is posted like "1 hour of content per major patch" when everyone playing knows Leek's patch easily had 10+.And even this patch had easily 6+ hours.You are free to dislike things, but man. If you don't play the game and thus claim there's no content, you can't be taken as anything but a low IQ shitposter.
outta stop spending 10 minutes reading a single line of dialogue, bwo
destinationvoid
>>572700164Mating press.
>>572699597Lol no, I'm here to watch it burn. Serves you right for shilling it on /zzz/ so much, fags.
Please wake up.
nyo
dead dead dead sahur
Deadest gacha general on /vg/Fitting for the worst gacha on the market
>>572710820But enough about WuWa
>>572710820That's not ZZZ
Anyone else avoiding the w*rm at any costs?
>>572710902>>572710851Games that took a dookie on AKE without having a double-banner month?
>>572710984I'm tempted to claim a ticket to see what'd happened when it expired
>>572710984I'm not rolling on his banner but I don't think I'll be able to resist rolling for Arcane.
>>572710984>>572711242
This is pretty much my first ''gacha" video game. Will I have to wait a long time for more Yvonne story?
>>572711647who
>>572711647>moreAnon, I-...
>>572711647she will turn up for 5 minutes at the 1 year anniversary to do nothing important
>>572711647the Chapter 1 title on character quests are bait they will never revisit them.
>went to 120 pulls for the last 4 characters>gems are goneYeah i think i'm done
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BR4VwTvk77c
>>572712152>>572711939maybe arknights will be different to every other gacha, please let me hopeUnironically the odds are not zero because of how much effort has to go into each character. They spent all that money on the thick dragon tail animations, might want to keep using it in stories
>>572711647Unless they are team endmin besides their story chapter they will get max avengers assemble moment for the region finale. Grim for endfield until they prove me wrong.
>>572699597Always betting against 4chin has made me thousands, we will live forever.
The new Umbral is kinda funny, its still fun though. I really like the staggered stage.
>>572712669wyell, they already sold her in a banner and made money out of her, they don't have much to gain anymore by making her re-appear unless it's yet again to sell a skin or an alt
I wouldn't even mind if they word-slopped some "what your operators/employees have been up to" to read as data terminal entries on Dijiang every update. Contrary to much of /end/, I have enjoyed trawling through and REEDING all the operator profiles, voiced lines and lore explanation entries
>>572712978That's what they said about Leek yet here we are, she was the star of a large chunk of 1.0 Wuling MSQ, 1.2 Wuling MSQ, a big presence in Mi Fu's operator story in 1.3 and due to be a main cast presence in 1.4 as well by virtue of going to the exclusion zone
>>572713163Leek is very story relevant and a nation leader, Yvonne isn't. Plus it's very likely Leek will also be forgotten after we leave Wuling. Yvonne will probably appear again in La Fantoma though
>>572711647>Yvonne story>moreSomewhere between 6 months and never
>>572713373>nation leadershe's the acting mayor of a city
Leek appears because they never bother to animate her, she is expressionless most of the time so they don't have to pay the animators anything for just having her stand there with her default expression
I guess its time of the month, this place will get better after we get the new IGN leak
>>572713527yeah, point is she is the face of that place so it's natural she will appear a lot to guide the guests
Shut up guys she will be back , i dont believe itdo other games really just do nothing? they just add more characters?
>>572667231>>572668085>>572668968>>572669484>>572679683>>572699597>>572703794FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES RETARDSWUWA WAS MAKING THE SAME FUCKING MONEY AS ENDFIELD AT THIS POINT IN ITS LIFESPAN.ALL THE DOOMPOSTING IS A GIANT NOTHINGBURGER.I'M ENDING THIS SHIT TODAY.
Leek canonically joins Endfield eventually full-time ish whereas Mi Fu is the one who stays in Wuling. It's in their profiles/voicelines. Same as Arknights, operator voicelines and profiles are often chronologically misplaced from immediate story events
>>572690291It doesn't.Normal people don't give a fuck. "Censorship" is only a moral concern for overpolitized american right wingers who fantasize about living in 1984 and fighting against "the man".
>>572713998There's a major difference though. Endfield is actually a good game.
>>572713998You didn't need to reply to ALL of your own posts chum
>>572713998You sound raped
>>572713998>34 mil on second month after releaseEndfield can't even flex reaching THAT on release or the month after
>>572713998what getting wormed does to a mf
I can't stop farting
Nighty night
>>572713998also remember that you're supposed to divide this by half, because of the math nerf on goytower, so it made even less than us
Dasvidaniya
>>572713939genshin is famous for doing this, but they make so many characters and are very lazy with the models and reusing animations
>>572715225Sounds like a cope
>>572713939ZZZ quite often brings back charactersHold onto hope anon, Yvonne will get some featured event at some point
>>572715703I mean it's cope if you think facts are cope, nonny.
>>572715845So it's a cope, thanks for clarifying.
>>572713998>Chuds keep saying the game is dead>HOPE BVLLS will continue playing said dead game anyways for years on endThis stunlocks the brown
>>572715921yes, unfortunately, it also means you're terminally retarded. I'm sorry you had to find out this way...
>>572715780>some featured eventRerun banner at best.
>>572698987You lil shit.
>>572713998>CN 1mwow, this game REALLY died in china huh?
>>572713998wuwa also got out of china after 1.4we're stuck in wuling until 1.6 at the earliest
>>572716614till 2027
>>572713998you raped them btw
I still believe in /end/ but I gotta say I'm sick of the daily routine Dailies themselves are quick and painless. But all the OTHER shit. Credit shop. Stonks. Putting up a delivery for someone else. Taking a photo. Granted there will come a time where I won't need to do all this shit. But I really gotta question where lowlights head was at. Game has not much to do once you complete everything so give players a bunch of boring shit to do instead? The UX for all of these things are objectively terrible as well. So even when I get to the point where I don't want to engage with any of this other then dailies and visiting friends for the friendship for a fraction of a pull it just doesn't feel worth it after a point. The credit shop is such an egregiously designed time wasted. Loading screens are not fun. The whole thing could be done instantly via one menu. For as much as I admire this game for not wanting to adhere to industry convention in despite it for adhering to industry convention in its own autistic way that is simply Bad.
>>572714318>Endfield can't even flex reaching THAT on release or the month afterBut it can. Laevatain alone made $30 million on the last 8 days of january.
>>572717137>credityeah you want this one because le hecking Que Pucha>stonksentirely optional, or just buy the cheapest stuff to stock up until you need to dump>deliveryfair>photodo this once a week
>>572717137You've just listed a whole bunch of non-mandatory stuff you've continued to beat your head against despite having a bad time
>>572717271*29
>>572717271Post the chart then
>>572717271double it for the math nerfno one ever takes it into account lolIt's literally the reason genshin/HSR/LADs don't have 90-100m months anymore
I wish we can be like wuwa too...
>>572717495
>>572717654SHUT IT DOWN
>>572717137Refreshing to see an actual critique instead of shitflinging, I agree.Endfield is not going anywhere anytime soon, but I do wish to see the "chores" a bit more streamlined once you have them setup properly, good post anon.
WuWankers spend more time talking up how much money their favourite company made than they do playing the actual game
>>572713998the jeet game turned it around will this game accomplish that?
>>572717654And this only the first week of Laevatain's banner. It doesn't include the remaining two weeks, or Gilberta and Yvonne's banner.
>>572717137holy shit no wonder why you guys bitch and moan so muchyou waste all your time doing the auxiliary daily shit instead of just logging in to dump your sanity/get your 200 currency.no one gives a shit about deliveries, the credit shop is miniscule and photos can be set aside to be done weekly who cares if its not optimal.after this CC do you really think it was worth constantly getting all your stock bills to buy out all the artificing catalysts? just do your 3 minutes daily to get your pulls, actually play the game once a week and then spend the rest of your time playing other games.
>>572717654the fuck do you mean you had to post this? do doomjeets seriously don't know? what's next? the 173 million?
>>572717849>after this CC do you really think it was worth constantly getting all your stock bills to buy out all the artificing catalysts?yes actually
Invisible profits
>>572717137>Dailies themselves are quick and painless. But all the OTHER shit. Credit shop. Stonks. Putting up a delivery for someone else. Taking a photo.You don't have to do these things. You do them when you need stock bills. These aren't mandatory daily chores, they're just a bunch of alternative sources of stock bills for people that get filtered by the factory. How do people not get this?
>>572718009factory alone ain't enough to buy all the artificing brick thoughbeit
>>572716073I really like the implication you shills push that being brown means not eating up literal slop fed to you by greedy companies and actually being willing to criticize the games you play while being white means being a giant corporate shiteater who unquestioningly eats the slop and proudly defends the worst anti-consumer practices like the horrendous dated gacha system in this game.So basically being brown means having a functioning brain and having standards, while being white means being good shabbos goy.
La Fantoma beach adventures with Yvonne will save the game.
>>572718214being brown means posting taintontas
>>572718214>So basically being brown means having a functioning brain and having standards, while being white means being good shabbos goy.brown coded post ngl
>>572718214>So basically being brown means having a functioning brain and having standards, while being white means being good shabbos goy.Yes.
>>572718214I mean, have you SEEN the kinda vidya gaym whiteboi made?Only brownGAWDS like chinese and gook make good game these days
>>572718214look man, I'm happy and I'm white(you) are miserable and are brown
>>572711647>YvonneWho?
>>572717137Good breakdownA lot of the issues can be blamed on the UI guy needing to be fired before the game went live. He's INCREASING cpms instead of reducing them. You know, his literal goddamn job description?>Since it takes four clicks to switch regions, I will now HIDE the region switch button! HA!
the most insecure general....
seriously, when are we getting some previous? the wait is killing me
>browntontas chimpoutthe raped
>>572718591brown latino here, most other brown people that play games at this point are either playing league, ubislop, fifa, or forza. not to mention genshin and wuwa primarily and i'm not joking about that
>>572713939Literally only gacha I've seen that brings back old characters somewhat regularly without feeling forced is HSR. Most gachas pretty much pretend the character doesn't exist anymore after their banner ends. No idea which philosophy Endfield will follow.
>>572718821either we're dead or we're seething about the other game
>>572718930I feel like Endfield is pretty fucked. It's been 3 patches and we haven't seen anyone whose story ended in V4 return, not even in a side slop event
as if spamming DED GAEM will have any effectgenshin was spammed that for 6 years (remember the "FIRST ANNI? MORE LIKE LAST ANNI" and qiqi spam?) and it's still aroundinfinity nikki has more reasons to be a dead game yet it's still aroundtower of fantasy has all the reason to be a dead game yet it's still aroundcry all you want jeets, your "game" is so great you're doing anything but playing it and spend your days being a parasite to every other generals to stay relevant
>>572718976Or both, like now.
>>572719070bodied those freaks
>>572713998Wuwa has far superior combat, better exploration and no factoryshit destroying the game so it making a comeback is logical. Endfield ain't no wuwa so it'll prolly EOS if we're being real.
>>572719070all of these titles are just walking corpses
This is not healthy
at this point, EOS is a brown keyword. No one white would be so obsessed about EOS
>>572719416Jealousy is a part of us
>>572719416Why is /end/ obsessed with better games?
>>572719416we're constantly raided by shitposters bwobut then again, at least the ppm helps
>>572718246PRAY
>>572719609Why can't we be like them
>>572719070raped [The Raped]
>>572719636I only respect the strange Nanally poster. With the ''nyes" and the ''nyo". But at this point, if I see anybody mention Wuwa I will just assume its a jeet. At first it seemed semi genuine but now its ridiculous.
>>572718214Shills immitate the culture of the website they're operating on, in 4chan's case the culture (since /pol/ took over the website) is larping as a white supremacist, so naturally companies who pay shills to post here will have them pretend to be white supremacists too. So Hypergryph's shills in these threads try to push the narrative that being a brainless defender of the game = being white, while being a doomposter (aka anyone criticizing the game) = being brown, and being brown = bad.(even though 90% of this website is brown, especially the gacha threads). They think this is an effective shilling strategy on 4chan.
Alive games don't have dead threads, just sayin
>>572719416It's the clearest sign of a dying game when the general starts seeing boogiemen everywhere and seething about other games. WuWa living rent free in this general.
>>572720204they do though, not everyone is a 4chinner
The truth is, doomposters are brown because all they do is parrot Saintontas, who is an ugly brown
Why is this general so mindbroken by WuWa? What did Wu do?
>>572718214TRVKE ICBM
>>572719412>genshin>walking corpse>wuwa needed anniversary AND collab to barely come ahead of genshin during its month of nothing, something wujeets themselves accused genshin of beingso funny
>same indian that shits all over sixth streetand they will tell me they are not vmjeets raiding, I expect 2 samefaggy replies to the image, moving on
>>572720362kinda glad I started zzz instead of wuwa, heard it was more greedy towards f2p.
>>572720362It's just being constantly raided. They take turns raiding /wuwa/ and /end/ these days because people here bite very easy and people in /wuwa/ are generally stupider on average. They were trying to raid /gig/ for a time as well but you simply can't penetrate that wall of mental illness to try and make an impact.
>>572720537who the fuck plays genshin in 2026 besides retarded npcs?
>>572720767genshin and wuwa have most of the gacha world
THE
>>572720362Jealousy obviously
>>572720767>games that's popular and making money don't count because I don't like themI can say the same about every game not Arknights and Endfield
>>572720767ChineseYou know nintendo adults?Same different
no wonder /zzz/ is comfy, the jeets are here
>>572720767why wouldn't you play the best 3d gacha on market? plus the game is at its best state it has ever been
>>572711647IF they do it similarly to OG Arknights (which isn't a given - structurally, they're very different), they'll use her in a year or so as a supporting character to introduce other characters whom she'd naturally have some connection to. She won't be the focus again, but you'll at least get to enjoy her having a part in the story.
>>572720857Oyyou broke character, that's the real rossi
>>572720954Kek, no. They are following WuWa route here, she'll never be relevant again ever.
>>572720910
>>572721005That's koikatsu Rossi, akchuully
Lowlight sudoku stream when?
>>572721123its using her actual model
>>572720897yeah, same over at /nteg/ actually but they are gonna rotate soon, you cannot convince me they are not browns paid to shill wuwa around the clock
>>572721124during another worm banner probably
How come nobody mentioned the fact that >ogak revenue go down>akef rev go upWe just need to get ogak people to come here instead of staying on their old ship
>>572720910>best 3d gacha on market?That's wuwa though
>>572720362Wu.... Won....
>>572720705like cuckwork
>>572717849This is why I say they, unfortunately, need to remove the delivery system (saying that the region is stable enough now that Endfield no longer needs to be involved). People just don't understand that you don't need to keep doing this shit after you clear out the perms in Stock Redistribution, and it's burning out a LOT of new players.
>>572721426Not everyone live in the first worldOur shitty PC can't handle wuwa
o lord, give me the strength to log on and do my dailies for one more day
>>572721334>ogak revenue go downWrong thread>akef rev go upImagine if the revenue didn't go up when compared to the month that had nothing
>>572721596I lost the battle this week. I'm going to wait for the stream to see if I should even both with this game further.
>>572721556actual brown latino here again, most of my friends play wuwa and genshin on their crappy government issue laptop, 30 fps is a luxury, 20 fps is the normal
/akg/ never had melties when people mentioned wuwa there, what the fuck is wrong with /end/?
>>572721764That's not "playing" but self-flagellant
>>572721727We're not going to change course while we're in Wuling. The best bet for radical changes comes after now.
Just installed wuwa. This better be worth it.
>>572720840This is kind of like saying that Disney and Hallmark Movies produce the most-watched movies in America... There's a pretty big gap between the player count of Genshin and Wuwa. It's just that Wuwa players are loud enough in other communities that it obscures that fact.
>>572721831i agree, i used to play genshin myself but dropped it, semi-actively play wuwa, liked aemeath but the community around that character is unironically trannies so it gives it a bad name, and zzz is the comfy gacha i probably enjoy the most but that one is less forgiving when it stutters because you get raped by the enemies whenever that happens
>>572722009
I uninstall
>>572722194kek
>>572722194WUWA collab would save Endfield
>>572722620wuwa doesn't collab with lesser games
>>572721826/akg/ isnt comprised of hoyoslop babies
>>572720724>The game extreme powercreep, HP inflation, and specific character shilling in Endgame, with 75/25 system for weapon banners and 180 pity to guarantee a character ONTOP of having a literal Caste system for characters with one caste being the only characters that are worth using>....is somehow less greedy than the game with guaranteed weapons and 160 pity to gaurantee a character and barely any HP inflation, powercreep, and way more flexible endgame buffs plus the very little difference in power levels of characters so evey character can reasonably clear Make it make sense.
>>572723210When will you learn that the people shitposting with and about wuwa have never and will never be able to play it?
>>572723210>plus the very little difference in power levels of charactersThis one's fucking bullshit and you know it.
Once the game leaves Wuling things will get better. The obvious China/Taiwan implications are so eye-rolling it's hard to take anything seriously. Chinks don't understand subtlety, so when we get to TGCC and it's openly shitting on not-USA we can get quality scifi social commentary instead of state-sponsored propaganda
>>572723210I would have started playing wuwa for this pink, but she won't even be relevant in the future anymore and devs will drop her for new chicks.
Who is this game for?
>>572723616hoyo rejects
>>572723453>The obvious China/Taiwan implicationsif you think that's what the qingbo storyline is about you're fucking retarded
>>572723616No one...
>>572723616Not even Lowlight knows...
>>572723616A new audienceOne who've never touch a gacha game beforesupposedly
>>572723913Lowlight is a hobbyist, he does whatever the fuck he wants
>>572723616me!
I have my day off today, will use the next couple of hours optimizing my factory methinks
/end/ can't solve this
just beaten umbra. Here's stage most fun stages ranked. 6>5>2>4>1>3
>>572724483...took me longer than I thought it would
>>572723616A game for me.
why do you glaze arknights os much?
When are we getting a Pinus event bros???
>>572723210Is it too late to play wuwa?
>>572725420Arknights? Real one? It's a great game despite a lot of flaws and fuck ups.
>>572725483You can grab a becca for free if you starts now I guess
>>572725569I played it and its not a great game
>>572726175I played it and it was, and there's more of that sentiment from other people too. You likely don't have a good reason as to why it's bad that isn't easily contested
This guy loves talking about wuwa in the endfield thread.
>>572726335so is this the cope safespace general
>>572726653nah
SHARPER THE PAINSHARPER THE KNIFE
>>572721123bro if this is koikatu please link the mod?
Imagine if we got a proper janny who does more than just delete OPs like other generals
>>572725423When we get rat wives
chen is kinda dumb...
>>572723616the 5 anons itt
>>572728137Chen is smart. Chen is also my wife and has nice thighs.
i've diverted a significant amount of the company's budget and manpower into an extremely complicated plan to get tangtang to wear a frilly dress. perlica is not happy
>>572728292*smooch*
>>572728635Chen is way too erotic. She will steal Endmin from Perlica
>>572728568Don't mind her, she's just seething at her betters.It's good to be the CEO.
>>572728635
>>572728760Shut the fuck up, Perlica is perfect. She is smart, beautiful, capable, and she always keeps her feathers in pristine condition. She is the ideal wife and nobody is taking Endmin away from me.
>>572729316Chen is better
>>572729316WE ALL HAD HIM, PERLY
Chen is tighter
Perlica, your breath stinks.......
>>572729316Pelica... I'm sorry...
>>572728635Chen really is just so cute and gorgeous, man. You'd never catch me saying this about Ch'en.
Too many rape babies here. What happened? Is it because larper gacha tourists hyped this up so much over the years as God's gift since sliced bread. WuWa haters desperately wanted this to be the one to kill WuWa, but it didn't happen.
>>572733218Smooch?
>>572719609
My boyfriend Ardashir found out about my boyfriend Camille and now he's muttering something vaguely under his breath
>>572733367*smooch*
This Umbral reset has to be the worst one yet>You randomly freeze, leaving you completely open to get gangraped for 10 seconds>It also completely bricks your attack animation>Can't switch to an unfrozen operator while this is happening, can only use their skills or ults (if they're even up)Why is Hypershits definition of "difficulty" just putting retarded handicaps on you or disabling parts of your kit?
CAMERA EVENT IS UP
>>572733807It's unironically one of the best umbral stages yet. You can easily counter it with crowd control and clever positioning. Also you can just take Xaihi and use your ult when you're in a crutch
>>572733938
>>572717849>after this CC do you really think it was worth constantly getting all your stock bills to buy out all the artificing catalysts?It wasnt enough, I was skipping the last batch of catalysts
i don't know if i'm just tired from cc but that umbral felt tedious. the stages were very easy but everything felt like it had 10-20% more hp than they should have
>YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THESE THINGSTHESE THINGS ARE LITERALLY TIED TO YOUR ACCOUNT PROGRESSION YOU MORON, OTHERWISE HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU GEARING YOUR OTHER UNITS AND PLAYING WITH OTHER TEAMS? YOU'RE OBLIGED TO DO THESE STUFF IF YOU WANT TO "GUARANTEE" ANYTHING AND IT'S A CHORE, IT'S LIKE A SECOND JOB LIKE THE BROWN GUY SAYS, THEY HAVE TO ADRESS THIS IN NEXT PATCHES.
>>572738092you do them when you need to, retard. not every day religiously. these aren't "dailies".
>>572738787Then why do they reset daily? Something in their design is intended to be done daily.
>Kino photo event dropped>Thread is dead as fuckWHAT WENT WRONG?
>>572739352Photo events are garbage in all gachas except zzz I guess, let's be real.
>>572739352I'm at work bwo, let me get home first
>>572739056So you can't spam them? It's basic timegating.
>>572733512KEK, so true
>>572733512I like that ZZZ and NTE are together in this image
>>572740737I don't. Endfield should have been with NTE since they are both fellow AIslop flops
>>572740839Bask in your misery I guess?
Done.
>>572723616Mentally Ill & Retards
>>572741159Hey, that's my band
>>572733807>Why is Hypershits definition of "difficulty" just putting retarded handicaps on you or disabling parts of your kit?CC in a Nutshell
>>572740839Don't say that about NTE
>someone shit talks wuwa>suddenly meltyI'm noticing
>>572723616People who like factory mechanics and good character designs, I think those are the main things keeping people here instead of playing other games. Most of them lack a niche like the factory or their character designs are all bland and forgettable
>>572733807>Why is Hypershits definition of "difficulty" just putting retarded handicaps on you or disabling parts of your kit?Because the other kind of difficulty in gacha games is trivialised by just pumping raw stats which enforces rolls. Having you play around mechanics is more interesting than stat checks which is just a lazy whale encouraging mechanic>please roll potentials
>>572741627Stat checks are better than gimmickslop
>>572741716True
>>572741716Yeah nah, I've had enough of FGO's 'your NP3+ meta servant bro?'.
>>572741716lol no, skill issue
Sitting around~
>>572741716Stat checks are boring as hell. In CC the increased enemy health risk is my least favorite one, but at least I can just remove it and choose something else.
How to recover Enfield players>add a coomer dorm like GFL2>swimsuits like GFL2>strong dupes like GFL2
Endfield is criticised for doing the things that people demand from every other gacha.
>>572744112Literally they just have to apologize to saint. It's incredibly they are letting their million dollar investment die over some petty drama.
>>572744268who?
>>572744112>add a coomer dorm like GFL2YES>swimsuits like GFL2YES>strong dupes like GFL2Kill yourself
>>572741401>Muh factoryThe factory exist solely to make the latest character's gear and literally nothing else, it may as well not even exist and just let us obtain gear from bosses or something else. The factry isn't keeping anyone around when it's existence is to just be set up to make the newest character's gear and then be abandoned until the next patch. I genuinely think you factory defenders don't even play the game because nobody who's actually played this game (especially if they've played ACTUAL factory games) would think the factory is anything but a waste of server usage.
>>572741716You're a hoyotard
Add Vidya Butts from GF2 to Endfield her eyes alone mogg all of Endfield characters
>>572745008Just wait until some endgame content is locked behind 24/7 assaults against Wuling where your factories have to divert all production into making munitions and weapons of war
>>572745008Doesn't change that the factory is actually the fun part of the game, far more fun than anything most gachas can offer. But I don't disagree that it is under utilised, if it was up to me the Dijiang would crash into the planet and everything in the game would be made in the factory.>Growing Rare PartsFactory>Growing EXP/Weapon MaterialsFactory>Crafting ConsumablesFactory>Crafting Gear itself rather than just the componentsFactory, the reason why it's underused is because they tepidly made it possible to progress without a factory, going all in on factory would have been the better choice. Also make recipes more complicated than just switching a single material, obviously they did this for tepid reasons too but considering how many people are too mentally incapable of playing a factory game and use blueprints they should just make it harder, the difficulty for blueprint users won't change
>>572745172>>572745361Nah
>>5727450081000+ hours logged in factorio and the factory is literally the only reason I am sticking around for this game While combat is atrociously bad, as is the story.
>>572745008>The factory exist solely to make the latest character's gear and literally nothing elseWhich is why they should go all in on it and give us more reasons to use it. I wanna be able to craft pull currency just like in OG Arknights.
>>572744112gfl2 is also dead, nearly every coomer game is dead. the trick is slightly bigger tits while keeping it tasteful so guys aren't embarrassed to play it and femcels don't quit in angerthe main problem we have is the retarded month long content gap the devs gave us right at the start (and while other gachas were having anniversaries or starting), and the game will struggle to recover from that for a while. the game just needs more regular content (events/endgame) and people will gradually put more time/money into it.
GFL 2 is the deadest game that people keep talking about
>>572746051>the trick is slightly bigger tits while keeping it tasteful so guys aren't embarrassed to play it and femcels don't quit in angerFalse
>>572741716>t. stockholm syndrome
>>572746051>with enfield revenue, the game is not far from being dead. you realize that NIKKE and FGO both PNG and coomer, gave us a beating the last months
>>572746216You are on route to join gf2 in the bottom. Don't be afraid, it is not that bad. Memetower makes us pc games look bad.
>>572746498>>572746231chibi/png coomer games unironically work in a way that action coomer doesn't>snowbreak dead>gfl2 dead>horizon walker dead>last origin dead>zzz deadcoomers will ONLY fuck with games that can be played while jerking off. HSR/Genshin/Wuwa are huge and only dip their toes into coom. You simply want to make the girls a bit sexy and curvy without overdoing it and you win big.>>572746216they've been ramping up their coom which gets people talking, but doesn't get them playing or spending.
Rossi figure hot glue
Endfield will never let me beat women like thisNo, beating them in big gay animal forms doesn’t count
Do we need a factory gacha?
>>572746051>NIKKE is top 2 JP right nowthis game has 3D appeal but nothing to keep players engaged and a PNG is giving it a beating with a couple of swimsuits.Having so much fanservice like NTE at least doesn't hurt; this game is too Christian and boring at the same time.
Another day another gacha being shilled by 3rd world monkeys.
>>572747170did they have lots of sex afterwards?
>>572747383That's what this thread seems to be for.
Didn't gfl2 or whatever die in the launch because of some ntr controversy? We don't have this here, so we're safe.
>>572746807>coomers will ONLY fuck with games that can be played while jerking offfalse
>>572746051>the main problem we have is the retarded month long content gap the devs gave us right at the startThe main problem is gameplay not good and all the effort spent on making the characters and environments pretty is drying up after being wasted on mid designs.
a real dead game would be something like guardian tales
>>572747270you guys don't get it, the reason nikke works is it's an autobattler. you can sit back and fap while the girls jiggle their asses in your face. NO action gacha has managed to succeed as a coomer game, since dedicated coomers will only fap to your characters but not bother to ever install it.>>572747594name some coomer games that buck this trend>first descendantthey just fap to the characters while afking and the game is also dead>stellar bladethey just fap to the modded girl and do nothing else (koreans can't watch porn so this is their porn)>modded skyrimsame as abovepeople aren't going to spend on a coomer gacha that requires actual effort to play.
>>572747774Skyrim and Stellar Blade, appreciate you answering your own question, also most people can fap just fine to unmodded Stellar Blade, Stellar Blade 2 even more so with the hotter girl
Nowadays even Fortnite is dying lol
This poster >>572745008 got filtered by the gourd factory event
>>572747568nah, the gameplay is just shitthey may initially have copied XCOM but made it so much worse it barely resembles the original
>>572746051Enfield is currently 4m over BD2, 6m over GFL2 and 2m over Blue Archive but you know what the best part of this observation? Enfield has around x10 the development cost of those games; it's really fun to see.
>>572747568We have Gilberta for NTR and that hasn't hindered our success
>>572747905they're not gachas and they're also one time costs. name an action gacha that succeeds as a coomer game because I've already mentioned several that failed trying that trick.>>572748158you can't strictly look at sensor tower graphs for income since it only tracks mobile data and 2d games have a larger share of their players on mobile. not that endfield is likely crushing it, but you can blame a lot of that on bad game management, like the previously mentioned extended banner right at the start of the game when you're supposed to be winning people over.
>>572748158So you're telling me Endfield is making more money than Blue Archive, the king of Comiket? Holy fuck, hopechads stay winning.
>>572748315Yeah because unlike other ntr heroines she lets herself be ntr'd by everybody
>>572748480>moving the goal postsYou are struggling to defend your argument because it's based on a faulty premise
>>572717137I quit ZZZ for its absolutely asinine daily grind of shit and how tiresome it was fighting manually for materials and disks with no skip or batch run mechanic.I've done the same for Endfield because its even fucking worse than that.I really really really dont understand making a gacha game filled to the brim with pointless, longwinded, menial daily/weekly tasks. HSR has shown that players are way more receptive to playing your game when dailies/weeklies take 30 seconds instead of 30 minutes.It absolutely needs to be the number one thing they do when they inevitably rebalance this game, alongside pruning all the 50000 different worthless currencies and systems that endfield has.
The heat is killing my focus I've been melting since yesterdayhttps://litter.catbox.moe/pi13fgh9a7mbjoix.png
>>572747774wuwa has a lot of fanservice, not in the NIKKE lvl because is from korea but at least you can see panties, side boobs, bare thighs, jiggle physics and bare butts.but in enfield? look zhuang fangyi and mi fu is a joke
>>572748480in practical terms endfield is crushing it. they're generating at least 50% of their revenue directly through hypergryph's web store (so no 30% cut from app stores) in addition to mobile only accounting for around 35% of their purchases across all regions.
>>572723616>factory is too shallow for automation autists>full-party combat is too shallow and slow for action-rpg/tales of enthusiasts>open world is empty and lacking both depth and puzzles, leaving collectors and explorers wanting>story is the weakest aspect of the game, meaning nobody is playing for the story>game is a sequel in name only, with no continuation, characters are completely divorced from their original versions, etc, meaning that the game also holds no inherent value for people who played the original AKI dont think even the devs know atp.nte, zzz, wuwa... they might all be shit titles but they know their niche, cornered their market, and pander to their consumers enough to keep them in the green.
this game isn't fun enough to survive without fanservice, that's a fact. even the fucking HSR has give up to fanservice with swimsuits
>>572749514Ardelia is literally Eyja and believes she's one.
>>572749514>in the greenDo you have evidence to suggest Endfield isn't making a profit?
No gacha has good gameplay, if you're railing on that as a reason to quit then you're already reaching
>>572750239Arknights does but you're correct for 3D gachas
>>572750173No, not really
poor rossi is suffering in this sweltering heat
>>572750368Thank you for confessing, do you have examples of how open world puzzles in other 3D gachas are better than Endfield
>>572749924And how does that continue Eyja's story or give an AK player an incentive to play Endfield?>>572750173Yes, we get revenue charts every month.
>>572748806>log in>activate energy aluminum >alt tab while my turrets mow them down>craft -one- piece of gear>dailies done in less than a minute of workyou're either larping or genuinely retarded, either way i pity you
>>572750710>Yes, we get revenue charts every month.Which tells us estimated revenue, it does not tell us the development costs
>>572750239>No gacha has good gameplayarknights does, you retarded fuckwit
>>572750742But that doesn't actually complete your dailies all that did is use your sanity
>>572750768we already know endfield's development costs
>>572751018How much is the monthly cost of ongoing development?
>>572748858that's some nice plump plappable ass ngl
>>572751096we don't know that one
>>572750768the estimated development cost for Enfield was $100m, NTE $44m, wuwa $120 m and GFL2 only $12mdevelopment costs are more important than net profits.
>>572751690>development costs are more important than net profits.Incorrect, if the development costs for Endfield were $100m then Endfield paid for its development within the first month. Which means all that matters now is the ongoing costs vs revenue. Without that we can't paint any kind of picture at all. Also unless I'm misremembering wasn't it said early on that surprisingly Endfield is making more profit on PC than mobile? Is that even factored into the revenue wars?
I am a 4chin anon and my hobby is lying about a game's dev costs that i just made up and pulled out of my gaping asshole.
>>572751870Math autismo here, can confirm
>>572752042We know, doombro...
>>572751870>wasn't it said early on that surprisingly Endfield is making more profit on PC than mobile?there is nothing surprising about this
>>572752432>there is nothing surprising about thisNot surprising at all but it does invalidate IOS/Android charts
>>572751870the initial costs were 100m including advertising. hypothetically speaking, if they reduced advertising, the average would be 60m because HG has 500 to 700 employees in Enfield but since the game uses Unity, it needs elite and specialized programmers, so their salaries are higher than those at UE slop from cheap universities. Enfield has performance engineers from Capcom and Square Enix and their salaries are higher than average.
>>572752432in the chink PC bang ranking, Enfield is outside the top 10...genshin top 4 and wuwa top 5
you need to be a special kind of retard to just waste your time making up numbers to doompost a game
>>572752761Why do people think anything outside the top 10 means EoS? literally no business in the world would exist if that was the case
>>572753196That basically how the stock market views things too
I know what would save Endfield: a footslut Operator.
>Endfield, in it's current state, is somehow still bringing in $50 million per monthThere is not a chance in hell even the dumbest of you actually believe this
Literally everything in this game is subpar except for the character designs. Even then it's not like the characters look better than the other gachas either.Just nuke it and start over already.
>>572745876>1000+ hours logged in factorio and the factory is literally the only reason I am sticking around for this game......But the factory is done content at the start of every patch. What do you mean you're sticking around for the factory when THE FACTORY IS LITERALLY DONE DAY 1 OF EACH PATCH AND THERE IS ZERO REASON TO WORK ON IT ANY FURTHER UNTIL THE NEXT PATCH AND EVEN THEN ONLY IF YOU'RE PULLING THE NEXT UNITS TO MAKE GEAR FOR THEM? Legitimately what are you getting out of the factory at this point? Do you just log in and stare at it all day and appreciate your hard work?
>>572754837rock solid proof that it isn't the case? jeetcharts focusing on only one source of revenue don't count
If Enfield is making so much money, why is the production capacity so bad? There's practically no content in 1.1 and 1.2.
>Trust me, Endministrator.
>>572755370First 6 months of patches were premade before launch.
>>572755370Can you stop pointing it out? It doesn't fit hopesissy narrative.
What the fuck is this gnome shit lmaooo!!
>>572755064>Do you just log in and stare at it all day and appreciate your hard work?NTA, but sometimes I do
>>572755370what exactly do you expect of the game when it comes to content? and like the other anon said we are still in the pre-made patches
I want to have gay sex with Camille
>>572755925we know, male endmin
>>572755925That's gay
Apparently some people weren't allowed to participate in Endfield CC tournament because they once posted social credit meme
>>572755370Hypergryph has at least 70 open positions for Endfield's dev team which I think is actually a little down since the last time I checked.They also almost certainly have delayed content after getting feedback from CBT2 and post-release. Camille's quest and CC should be the first "new" additions to the game.
>>572755064>......But the factory is done content at the start of every patch. What do you mean you're sticking around for the factory when THE FACTORY IS LITERALLY DONE DAY 1 OF EACH PATCH AND THERE IS ZERO REASON TO WORK ON IT ANY FURTHER UNTIL THE NEXT PATCH AND EVEN THEN ONLY IF YOU'RE PULLING THE NEXT UNITS TO MAKE GEAR FOR THEM? Legitimately what are you getting out of the factory at this point? Do you just log in and stare at it all day and appreciate your hard work?you say this as if the combat isn't even less of a part of the gameat least with factory you could theoretically keep optimizing it for weeks or months on your own if you just don't use a guidecombat content is, at absolute maximum, like 10-20 minutes
>>572755816>>572755816>>572755816>>572755816
>>572750931you can apologize by killing yourself
>>572755014If you take out mhy slop even character design is sub par
how many google gift cards you get for shilling your shitty gachas here?
Homos
>>572757358the same amount you get for defending them
