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it’s true edition

Previous green thread: >>572670492

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Fanart Archives
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>https://utg.vidya.pics/

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>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

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>https://archive.is/iSiFg

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>Previous: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh

-Pippins Wiki
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>>
>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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Rate my flower OC
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Green thread?
More like good thread.
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>Toby is a lolichad
BASED
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>>572681320
haha!
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cat
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my brain is going as i draw. Next chapter is gonna be when Rudy dies. It's gonna be a hospital dark world. Rudy will either die before the dark world or immediately after. If the latter, Susie will tell Noelle "wait! we can bring him back! give me his dust!" and do something really stupid

i think we're setting up for a noelle final boss - maybe even with susie as the dragon protecting her
fuckin... RUDY might be the angel. toby would not set up gerson coming back from the dust if someone else wasn't also going to come back from the dust. in all likelihood, angel is noelle, but rudy angel is kind of fun, too. he probably wouldn't have any agency since it'd be susie's dark world and noelle would just defend him to the death anyway. anyway, here's my take on rudy angel
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>>572681404
2 owls out of 7
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what was your favorite brown moment?
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FILLER MAN
FILLER MAN
WITH NO PLOT
IN HIS LANDS
SO HE STANDS
TO WASTE ALL OF OUR TIME
IN JAPAN
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>>572681467
So I'm supposed to NOT rape this little fucker?
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>>572681453
thats dope as hell anon!
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What if the Floradinns just kept humping and humping the Rudinns in the darkworld
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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ICE-E dark world, hospital dark world or Holiday mansion dark world?
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floradinns are canonically fat chuds
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>>572681402
For me it's fat Flowery with big perky moobs that exude soft nectar and a pleasant scent
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>>572681506
You cannot. There is glass between you, forever. Give it up and move on. Get a hobby. Learn a language or something
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>>572681614
see >>572681453
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>DANGANRONPA 4: Hope Shines through the Dark
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I can’t find my tweezers and I feel awful because yanking my back hairs is how I stim
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>>572681659
Dogcheck 5 has caused irreparable damage to the psyche of the DR community
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>>572681628
Expanded castle town and left classroom after noelle freezes it
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Kris has a vagina
A disgustingly filthy one
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>>572681691
Stim by looking for your tweezers.
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>>572681640
Pedicabo florem stultum.
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I need them.
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>>572681493
FAGGOT MAN FAGGOT MAN WITH HIS DICK IN YOUR ASS
>>572681628
a walk in freezer dark world would be cool
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The goblin's GREEN, he's GREEN as if he was a goblin...wait a minute!
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>Loves pretty flower boys
>Flattened when ready to spare
>Acts like stoners
>Eats a stick of butter just because
>Wants a gamer bf
I swear these things are just loose leaves from December's weed stash.
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>>572681751
True. It's where they keep the ball of crap they carry around

>>572681801
If.
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>>572681628
I hope it's a hospital dark world so we have nurse enemies
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>>572681224
By the same logic
Blue=Toriel
Toriel=is a man
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>>572681453
will he guide us through the fog?
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>>572681771
I tried! I don’t know how I lose shit when this house isn't even big! *ugly sobs and snot dribbles down my stupid ugly face*
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>>572681854
>when dess gets high she raids the fridge and eats entire sticks of butter
added to my list of HEADCANONs
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>>572681971
Obviously. Why do you think they adopted Kris? Asriel is from a previous marriage.
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>>572681708
stop making want to fuck the floradinn
i am weak to megaton asses
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I think this is my favorite NormalNPC fanart so far.
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the chapter 6 dark world will have modified virovirokuns the same way chapter 5 had floradinns
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I wonder if we will get another perspective change if we ever get to control our vessel, like will we get an old school first person RPG like mode in the light world meat factory.
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>>572681691
posts like these make me feel better about myself
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Reason to like Aqua:
>Most enjoyable personality, loves to entertain and be entertained
Reason to like Seth:
>Has a great arc of trying their hardest even though they're struggling and have low confidence. Also great dynamic with the others.
Reason to like Orange:
>Very cute, tough facade, but also has actual bravery because she genuinely does things she's scared of.
Reason to like Green:
>On everybody's side, very pleasant, also funny in how they keep demanding compensation. Nice, but greedy. Funny interactions with Fun Gang.
Reason to like Yellow:
>Funny moments of blaming himself for everything that goes wrong, gullible in a humorous way. Also plays off the others well.
Reason to like Blue:
>Sincere and idealistic, the most reasonable flower by far.
Reason to like Flowery:
>Funny voice clips, but also he's as badass as he claims to be, not because he's strong, but because he's got strength of will on a level that almost nobody else in the story can match.
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>>572681592
>dissatisfaction
*Disassociation
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>>572681854
Toby gets me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJwA2Eq2DY
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>>572682120
When is the meat factory mentioned in game?
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>>572681725
>>572681659
Once again I am asking to rebrand this general to /drg/
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Chapter 5 is a good last fun adventure chapter. One flaw is Toby trying to make really clearly it is that kind of chapter and some moments feel too unserious this late in the game.
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>>572682060
>normalnpc is just gaster's insane ramblings through stilted text-to-speech
kek
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>>572682190
Toby should have swapped 4 and 5 IMO
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>>572681825
You'd fumble them
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Reason to like Aqua:
>Cunny uooohhh energetic brat ### needs correction, hmm...
Reason to like Seth:
>jungle bush or heavy half-hard hog, pick your poison
Reason to like Orange:
>micro/macro play and exceptionally cute shadow puppet handjobs
Reason to like Green:
>mom
Reason to like Yellow:
Reason to like Blue:
Reason to like Flowery:
>Glue
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>>572682170
Sound test in undertale if I remember right.
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>>572681854
these guys are like a season 2 ATHF villain
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>>572682237
I wouldn't...
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>>572682060
I like to imagine that there’s some kind of meta-censor around this guy, like if you were to ask Carol “hey who’s that yellow striped bird guy” she would genuinely have no idea who you’re talking about
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>>572682153
Reason to like Orange
>she got a fat mouse ass that don't quit
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What's that other RPG with the purple character named Seth?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7VOxdO_5Ss
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>>572682237
I'd humble them.
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>>572681532
those lil humpers vidoes are some of the most antierotic pornos I've ever seen
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There's a lot of debate over what medium Gaster should be portrayed with when he's finally revealed.
Some say Claymation, some say Rotoscoping.
I say, what if he was painted?
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Best Flower Man covers?
Kasa's is the most popular but I'm not a big fan honestly
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>>572682375
Took me 30 seconds on google anon
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>>572682490
Gaster will be a sockpuppet controlled only using Toby Fox's cock.
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>>572682490
If Toby was based and developed for PC only Gaster would interact with the player through the game opening new windows
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>>572682490
He should not appear on screen at all except maybe a brief flash. Fighting or even talking to the man who speaks in hands should be a complete mindfuck where the game completely stops obeying any rules whatsoever.
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It would be trivially easy to trick Yellow into having sex with you
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>>572682538
You ain't foolerin' me! I love ol' Yella!
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>>572682493
it’s a with lyrics but ive been listening to indeedkira’s
https://youtu.be/-SAqLFjrPq4
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>>572682490
Hardcore!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knOXppaqBYY
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>>572682538
>succeeds in avenging the humans killed by Asgore
>sacrifices himself to help the monsters
pick a side nigger
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>>572682614
I feel like this is true of at least half the flowers
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>>572682538
Comparing Yellow to anyone but Flint from Mother 3 feels wrong
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>572681453
Holy cringe
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>>572682674
Gaster is a 2mm hole in reality
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>Toby voiced a skeleton pirate with a green bandana in We Baby Bears
PIRATEBROS????
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>>572682742
I vote the eyes on the right
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>>572682538
>Make cool cowboy character
>Ruin him with a basketball american boyfriend and constant desire to 41%
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>>572682779
Proof or take meds
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>>572682779
no fuckin way
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>>572682490
We should only meet Gaster in a pure text adventure
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So are Green's fans men or women?
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>>572682538
clover canonically died so much that flowey had to step in
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>>572682817
https://youtu.be/Ox6afvTMVuM
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>>572682703
oh, the implications of that make me sad
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>>572682802
>cool
yellow looks like a cheese stick, anon
there's nothing cool about him
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>>572682490
if this is pre-accident gaster than he shouldn't be any different from the hometown residents. considering that he doesn't do his wing ding speech for this game I imagine this is before he is changed/shattered.
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Seth can fill me up any day tbqh
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I like how the flowers in ch.5 feel like a middle ground between "real people" Lightners, and "living cartoon" Darkners like Queen and Tenna
They're hyperbolic, but the sadness beneath that hyperbole feels more grounded
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The flowers' names are like that because they're Asgore's flowers
He still sucks ass at names after all
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>>572682493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlB2uADmGH4
i like the confident voice in this one, you might like it
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>>572682907
He's already shattered long ago, in the Bunker.
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>>572682856
Male and have spent many years working as a cook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djqh5zJ4gN0
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>>572682963
then why cyan and purple have actual names?
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>>572682963
Every flower except Seth, that is.
Berdly was clearly responsible for that one.
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>>572682656
there's a version of the cover with only ingame lyrics
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>>572683017
I still don't get why Seth is obsessed with Berdly.
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>>572682871
>It's real
what the fuck?
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>Some theorist starts speaking
>Pink Mew Mew is a parallel to RedSoul-Kris relationship
Okay
>Ghost Lightner and Body Darkner learned to compromise to live together
Okay
>So, because this is parallel to RedSoul-Kris relationship, the obvious conclusion is...
Us befriending Kris, and Kris befriending us, respecting each other's wants and desires?
>the obvious conclusion is to give up ALL control (even though it's impossible) and leave Kris alone (even though it would cause apocalypse)
WUT. Did you even learn anything from the Pink fight? Why you keep pushing this idiotic narrative!?..
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good morning chat
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>>572683060
because berdly is THE SMARTEST
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>>572683048
where did this come from

Is it like the berdly caramel thing
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>>572683014
Aqua is actually the color Toby considered the cyan soul initially, going by Undertale's files calling it "heartaqua" so it's still a color name
Seth is an outlier probably because of Berdly like >>572683017 said
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>>572683060
Berdly was in the flower shop talking to the purple flower like it was a purple dinosaur named Susan.
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Flower man is genuinely some of the greatest shit to bless my ears in this game, why is the mew mew one so mid?
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Would Noelle be a good mother
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>>572683085
Since Chapter 1, Rouxls kinda looks like Gaster but with hair
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>>572683014
Aqua is not actual name, it's just a color
Also you forgot Gold (Flowery)
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>>572683082
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>>572682871
I'm so fucking scared
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>>572682681
You could convince Aqua it's a game for a few minutes before she loses interest and probably guilt Yellow into believing he owes you sex, but I don't think any of the other ones would be interested. At MOST Orange might assault your penis with an onslaught of lethal blows if she thought it was your weak point
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>>572683065
Toby likes western cartoons too, he can't just be a weeb. Bro grew up when Cartoon Network actually made the good stuff.
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>>572683029
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>>572683146
Because you're a cock loving faggot
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>>572681467
God, I'm so stupid...
I thought... everything was about to get better....
Why did they...
https://litter.catbox.moe/0m97mj.mp3
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>>572683235
Settle down, ok?
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>>572683227
This femkris makes me want to bend her over on everything in the house
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>>572683146
I love both Flower Man and the Mad Mew Mew theme, but Flower Man is the only piece of music that has ever made me tear up like 8 different times, genuine masterpiece and I'd say It's Toby's magnum opus, not kidding, I love everything about it the lyrics the instruments the timing and meaning of it all, just perfect.
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>>572683227
It's hard not see why Pink went doki for Kris
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>>572683227
If I knew a they like this I'd never let them go.
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>>572683206
You could just tell Orange is that dating, sex, marriage, and raising kids together is something all adult humans do. It's not even a lie
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>>572683227
what happens if I rub the crotch area?
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>>572683206
what if you convinced Orange that sex is good for training purposes?
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>>572683336
I don't think she'd be inclined to listen to chibbies
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>>572683227
I would respect any pronouns for a even a chance at this.
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>Running Sky
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>>572683410
She would after you befriend her big sis (Pink)
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i wonder how Asgore would feel if he knew that flower man was watching him everytime he jerked off
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>>572683261
it hasn’t even been a month
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>>572683481
Asgore didn't jerk off in front of the flowers because he already treated them like people.
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>>572683481
i think his dick probably stopped working after the divorce
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>>572683410
if you befriend Orange and dont bully her or call her a mouse then she's yours forever
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>>572683481
Flowery enjoyed every second of it btw
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>>572683410
I wouldn’t be a chibi to her no buli the human
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>>572683073
>Befriend
It actually foreshadows Kris and the soul will fall in love with each other
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>>572683227
Cute female with a pussy built for GOAT and heart shaped cock
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>>572683261
good tunes I want full
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>>572681320
When will these threads admit that Aqua Isn't going away? Can 'those' anons even handle the fact she will never go away and Is here to stay?
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>>572683561
talking to your flowers is different than that, plus i talk to my things often but that doesnt stop me from jerking off in my bed
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>>572683641
Literally no one cares about people finding Aqua sexy, the problem is /v/ tourists shitting the thread up with /pol/shit and twitter screencaps which has stopped for the time being thankfully.
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>>572683641
Why's she fat?
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>>572683641
hey, at least we dont have to deal with the pippins fans
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typical Pink fanart
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>>572683146
I think they're both good in their own right, Flower Man however sticks out as the best track in the chapter.
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>>572683641
They ruined their life, ignore them.
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>>572683685
Your bed thinks that you're having sex with it. Your bed darkner is pregnant and she expects you to take responsibility.
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>>572683776
>mindbroken
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>>572683776
>>>/v/
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>>572683641
she is going to have the same relevance as lancer
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>Pirate Tenna vs Pirate Gaster with Spamton serving both sides
Holy fucking kino
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Nine eleven the tower man
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It's gonna be really funny when the roaring is actually okay and chill
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>>572683903
no one likes dice people
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Sing us a song, you're the piano man
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>>572683921
>pirate tenna
pirate rouxls is right there
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>>572683980
>falseflagging as aquaposters now
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>>572683929
>Bigot flower
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>>572683774
Well...that artist likes their lolis with a fat butt
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>>572684048
kek
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One cool thing about the aquafriends here is that they don't go on insecure thread derailing rants when people make fun of them. They just keep to themselves and let it bounce off them for the most part.
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If I knew how to edit sprites in the game I'd make it so at the end of Flowery's battle his sprite gets replaced by Gaster and the other flowers get replaced by Gaster's Followers but I don't know how to do that so I wont.
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2 AM and I can’t sleep fuck this hot ass weather
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>>572684073
Just like how aqua bounces on my big juicy boner
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>>572684073
It's been funny watching this tranny sperg out and call people pedophiles randomly
good on auqabros
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>>572684073
no they went off the rails before
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>>572684073
most cunnychads are conditioned to avoid sperging
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>hey humon! Teach me how to play that hugging game in the videos asgore always watches by himself!
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OOOOOOOHH
WHO LIVES IN A BOMB SHELTER UNDER THE TOWN
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>>572681320
Troon
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>>572684220
*pokes out eye*
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>>572684048
I don't get it
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>>572684218
why is she jamaican
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>>572684231
W.d stands for wacky dacky
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>>572684270
Lurk moar newfaggot
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>>572684116
The wings looking like a lower jaw with fangs is a real good touch
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>>572684236
Gesundheit
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>>572684267
hey man, leave her alone
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>>572684212
I've seen more pinkfags sperg out defensively over being called pedophiles than the aqua posters somehow. It's never even directed at them they just seem to jump in of their own accord to defend it
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>>572684270
holy newfag honestly kill yourself
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>>572684267
There's a chance she doesn't know an eye is supposed to be vulnerable, so her eye might actually just snap shut, severing your finger in the process.
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>>572684283
Aqua having a Jamaican accent for no reason would have been humorous
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>>572684120
stick a pillow in the freezer and have a cold shower
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>>572684270
Newfag kun...
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>>572684270
I don't get it either I think It's a /v/ thing
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>>572683578
kek, saved. you have an audio version?
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>>572684218
i dont like how skinny people draw her
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>>572684123
forcefully?
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>>572684382
overall aqua is a dangerous creature that should not be approached for any reason
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>>572684467
aqua's big fat BUTT
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Aqua looks better with three eyes than one and it grinds my gears most fanart is erring towards one eye
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Looks like Orange isn't the first mouse to think it's a human
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Ralseis real form is the towns sewer system, that's how he gets all over the place and why he's able to use fire (flammable gas) and why he's full of shit
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>>572684448
here it is with audio
https://files.catbox.moe/je5tmp.mp4
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>going to make a weird route save
>have one already set up right when you get noelle in ch2
>look up how to start it just to be sure
>it has absolutely nothing to do with tormenting her with mice on purpose
huh
i thought that was a required step this whole time since i remember people talking about it a lot back when ch2 dropped
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>>572684416
I didn't see this guy in chapter 5, he must be irrelevant
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>>572684498
smells like flowers!
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>>572684541
Fellow NOFNA knower *tips hat*
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can someone post that aged up shortstack aqua?
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>>572684467
>this character is probably short
>draw her as legally distinct midna
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Welcome to late night /utg/ who up jerring they rona?
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dream sequence
https://litter.catbox.moe/78nzha.mp3
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Aqua looks like she has an abusive single mother who's attracted to her own nephew
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>>572684270
>>572684432
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>>572684330
when you get called a pedo every other day it stops getting to you as much, aqua is just fanon chara 2 anyway
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The like 3 times the asgore theme showed up that was pretty cool I wish there was more of it
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>>572684667
I just got paid so I'm day drinking
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>>572684667
Not enough people sadly.
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*runs over your thread*
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>>572684667
I’m naked in bed
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he look like he fucks human men
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>>572684583
thanks, anon.
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>>572684701
the fallen human just looks like a fat little german boy to me people had to have been desperate for fappable humans
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>>572681614
>tfw you adopt two stray anime catgirls
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>>572684667
sleeby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYQwMxNUKD0
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>>572684785
I didn't and I'm drinking anyway
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>>572683832
maybe it's a good thing that beds dont turn into darkners, then, literally every bed wouldve seen sex or masturbation at some point in their lives
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>>572684667
Oh yeah. I'm Jaorangin' it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k
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People who don't consider chapter 5 the best chapter so far I'll never understand. This Is the first chapter where It felt wrong to seal the dark fountain and despite thinking I had long since became jaded and cynical I got really emotional over It. These flowers are living things and for the first time In their lives they were able to Interact with others, try things, and be who they wanted to be. Who the fuck was I to take something like that away from them? I couldn't help but feel like the villain despite doing the "right" thing. My only cope Is If they stayed In the dark world for too long they would die and It would be a last dream rather than there being another chance of them having a dream like this again.
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>>572684724
I watched all of them in middle school it was miserable
>>572684785
Twinning
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>>572684689
>Roboturd
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>>572684667
up plotting I'm up here conspiring I'm talking to the royal scientist I'm contemplating the barrier I'm trying to figure out how to de terminate essence I'm jarring my ronas for further examination
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I wish Toby realized people really like Berdly and want him to be around more than Noelle.
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>>572684667
i am a creature of the night
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>>572684687
And that mother is Kris
And the nephew is Ralsei, Asriel's secret son
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>>572684895
>I watched all of them in middle school
How long ago was that? Because that shit is still going bro
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>>572684827
DecemberDAMN
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>>572684689
>>572684834
Chapter 5 newfags will never experience the horrors of roboscrote.
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>>572684116
just export the spritesheet with undertalemodtool, modify the omega flowery sprites and then import the edited spritesheet back in
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>>572684894
The tragedy of a good dream is that it ends far earlier than you want it to, anon.
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>>572684982
Thank you I guess I'll try later
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>>572684667
Working my 12 hour overnight shift.
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>>572684936
Like 10 years ago, I sort of keep up with it by reading and boy has it gotten worse
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>>572684667
Yeah but it's to werewire tf stuff again because nothing from ch5 hits the same
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>>572684667
Drinking homemade medicine for my throat as I read the thread, it's a big glass of the stuff
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>Castle Town fountain is sealed
>Everything inside gets crushed by the sudden change in space
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>>572684062
Is that based or cringe? I'm leaning towards based
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Why is Toby Fox referencing a song about an adult being in love with a teenage girl?
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>>572684895
For me that would have been up to like the end of Alabasta more or less when the original 4kids dub ends. Apparently it just keeps going for another 900 episodes past that point. I'm almost as old as Franky is now they need to end it already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYVNleHAwDg
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i get the appeal now
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>>572684667
I am currently sitting, doing nothing but staying up, so I can start working the night shift in a week or two.
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Wait... So how exactly is the cat supposed to be a tranny when the ghost possessing it is a genderless spirit that only says it's a she because it's in a female body?
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>>572685145
youuu tell me
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>>572685010
im pretty sure the omega flowery scene sprites are unique to the flowery fight (so that the rainbow effect could be applied properly) so you shouldnt have any issues with it affecting the rest of the chapters' sprites
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>>572681614
I don't remember the last time I saw your face
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>>572685037
naisu naisu ceasar-chan
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>>572685160
From what I understand it’s in like the last hundred chapter stretch which is still fucking ridiculous but at least it won’t be like that one boxing manga with a billion chapters
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>>572685145
toby radiation fox also made an incest joke with queen saying that she's proud of her two children marrying
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>>572685145
Because that's something that happens in the game
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>>572685258
I had to look twice to see how well that works
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Muffet appearance would unironically be more hype than the faggot spaghetti skeleton, but I don't think toby owns the rights to her
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>>572684851
Nice art, but I thought you posted in a different time zone
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>>572685171
gender is stored in the soul and not the body
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>>572685336
I will usually post after getting back from work, but I had a little bit more time this morning.
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>>572684590
FILTHY. FUCKING. SECONDARY.
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>>572685145
Maybe you should ask Toby's Idols?
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>>572685258
"You look different."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI6nfACLPKQ
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>>572685347
That's... Please tell me people don't actually think that?
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>>572685419
FUJO YOUR WHORE HUSBAND IS CHEATING!
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Why
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>>572685450
You're going to need better material than that, it's the big '26
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>>572685298
It's fine Mew Mew is a dating sim character who are all 16
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>>572685419
there's something cursed about seeing battat with any one who isn't fujo, tenna, pluey or jongler
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>>572685496
looks beautiful
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>>572685450
gender is stored in the balls
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aqua is more sexy as an adult
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>>572684996
Yeah, I understand that but It doesn't help honestly.
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>>572685496
Schizophrenia.
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>>572685450
Would you stop seeing yourself as a [your gender] if your being was magically transplanted into a sexless kickass robot body with wings and drill arms? Because most people would not
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>>572685450
Don’t try to argue they’ll go out of their way to make the thread unusable
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>>572685408
OH SHIT
I only used Revivesong once in my whole ch5 playthrough
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Any art of Aqua bloodied and bruised
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>>572685496
Ralsei also wants to drink those colors...
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Aqua probably knows how to give mind blowing head right off the bat.
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>>572684667
I'm playing a video game right now
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>>572682493
I only like the Dethraxx one. Kasa's kind of sucks imo.
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Hee hee hee!
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>>572685665
JARONA
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>>572685665
UAAAAAAAAAAAGH
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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So... Ralsei tail reveal when? Chapter 5 only revealed his eyes again, which is a duplicate from Chapter 2.
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>>572685594
i'd still call myself a male because a male terminator esque flying robot is cooler than a fem or enby one
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Do you believe abort5 will have really new content?
Don't you think nothing will change?
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Why did Toby add a miniboss version of Rude Buster but only for chapters 3 and 5? Is he stupid?
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>>572685525
I'm getting Helga from Hey Arnold vibes
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Chara......
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>>572685785
it will have new content because we'll be able to continue freezing darkners in chapter 6
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>>572685760
We got cheated.
Should have been a fully nude onsen scene if he wanted to respect the culture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o681RqsnRM0
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>>572685760
Ralsei's tail is THAT tail
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/utg/ pro tip:
When someone is a retarded chud you're meant to ignore their post instead of replying to it and giving them motivation to keep shitting up the thread.
>b-but I have something to say!
They do not care and you are wasting your energy that could be spent talking about Deltarune instead.
>b-but
No!! stop replying!! forever!!
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>>572685785
It will be a trap. You'll experience a Game Over in Chapter 6, with no way around it. A dead-end path.
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>>572684851
your mew mew looks like curly brace with cat ears
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>Dress lift game! Did I win?
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>>572685616
No but I have Aqua making Kris bleed
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>>572685889
Bad advice
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>>572685785
It has a ton of new scenes and dialog and new flags are activated when you enter the route.
Plus we won’t be able to continue the lake proceeding until Chapter 7.
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>>572685889
Truthblossom
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>>572685785
Noelle will have a meltdown eventually and fucking die, either killing herself or being so out of control that we have to kill her
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>>572685785
probably just some dialogue here and there really
you won't be able to freeze anything because susie will be with noelle the entire time, obviously. and like the game isn't going to branch out into 7 or 8 routes depending on when you exactly you told to noelle to kick rocks just because that's an unrealistic dev expectation from tobert foxworth, it's probably just functionally identical to any frozen berdly version
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>>572685889
I like the picture
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Doom II protip: to defeat the Cyberdemon shoot at it until it dies.
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>>572685889
they been posting bait
and I been biiiiting it
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>>572685785
I can see two outcomes
>Aborting Weird Route after freezing Berdly leads to a guaranteed bad end in chapter 6 because Noelle goes nuts after re-entering the Dark World
>Aborted Weird Route leads to the normal end with some alternate scenes to show things are deeply wrong beneath the surface and a Tainted Pacifist-type surprise end stinger
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Even if Rudy Knight isn't true, I think it would be really fascinating to see Susie start acting weaker and more frail because extended overnight exposure to the Dark World has started killing her.
Maybe she even has less HP than Kris and Ralsei.
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>>572685889
these threads since the day of CH5's release are like if Kirkposting happened every single day just torture
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>>572685765
See this is an aesthetic argument. It's not wrong of you to feel this way, but it belies that you see you gender as the gender best for you due to your own aesthetic preferences for the kind of entity you want to exist as. Or to put it another way, you like your gender because it suits your ideal image of yourself
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>>572685928
Kek I see it
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>>572685879
I was livid when I found out that they don't get naked in the onsen.
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>>572684667
i'm drinking (at night) and feeling simultaneously sort of ok but also like my life is still over and i'm gonna kill myself. it's fine though i haven't drank in a few days so i won't become an alcoholic. sorry to keep a princess in waiting
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>>572685889
Based
This should be the first post on every thread
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>>572685889
>>572686054
Here’s a supermegaultrapro tip:
Ignore posts that you don’t like instead of crying about chuds on 4chan, unless it’s offtopic or illegal shit who cares
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>>572684851
kyoot
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>>572685495
i have a new hobby
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Wait a minute...If the knight made the second fountain and Flowery remained the same doesn't that confirm the knight Is someone who feels the same about those flowers? Or do the flowers not work by that logic since they aren't darkners and could choose their own form?
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This is your hero
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>>572685889
That argument is only compelling to people who think 4chan can get better.
I say, 4chan is doomed so lets make like the band on the titanic and make beautiful music together
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Ralsei about to have existential meltdown as the prophecy nears
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>>572686007
toby created like 90 neutral endings, if anything susie's gonna be like "oh wow that's a sick spell" while ralsei will be anxious and tell her with a shaky voice that they'll be fine (even through he doesnt believe it himself), the rest of this chapter is gonna have a similar cope with some dialogue depending on if you tried to freeze some minibosses or not
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>>572686215
lmao
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Why can't people just draw canon ignoring fanart why do they have to make up a whole AU to justify its existence?
"Hey guys this is my deltarune post apocalyptic AU, 98% of my posts is going to be fanart of Susie in survivor gear fighting zombies because it's actually just me wanting to draw that forever" God I hate autists, there's a reason my phone tries to auto correct autists to artists they're the same thing
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>>572686198
they're made from the dreams of the flowers, not like other darkners
a flower can have dreams because they just can ok
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>>572686139
Never kill yourself.
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>>572686119
i like my gender because i'm a biological man and im comfortable with it
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>>572685889
I'm the other Green Gaster and I agree with you
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I fucked off a few weeks after ch.4 and came back after finishing chapter 5
Where did green gaster come from? lord english?
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>>572685852
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>>572685852
....my lawfully wedded husband

>>572686280
yeah i won't i just passively really want to and it keeps playing over and over in my head but it's fine i'll be fine. don't you agree. you can tell by the way i look and the way i walk and the way i carry myself
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>>572686198
Flowers don't work on that logic because of what you said, but at the same time we know the Knight made some Dark Worlds and Kris made other Dark Worlds but they have the same "color" while Susie's is different
Make of that what you will
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>>572686326
Anon green Gaster has been a thing for 3 years
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I will close the castle town fountain. It will kill Susie if it stays open
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>>572686198
It was really funny that asgore was saying shit like this when he lives in a town that looks like suburban America. Imagine going outside and parading around the corpse of some dude who committed a crime
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>>572686139
>but also like my life is still over and i'm gonna
fun fact, you can numb your pain if you drink enough beer, keep this in mind if you ever actually try doing it
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>>572686325
what does the russian text in this even say
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>>572686315
You wouldn't have biology if you were magically put into a robot body, but you would still want to be seen as a man. So clearly your gender can exist without your current biology
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Late night requestan, give me something to draw before I go to bed
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>>572686227
Ralsei knows who he is and what needs to be done when the time comes.
He was ready to start spitting fire like Super Mario Bros. 3 I'm not worried about him at all.
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>>572686268
This reaction, too, is autism
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>>572686434
Seth biting into an oversized lemon
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>>572686427
>But I didn't have breakfast this morning.
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>>572686410
You can tell this was drawn before chapter 5 because she's a flat gremlin.
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>>572686364
I never saw any of it last time I was here
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>>572686452
ZAMN!
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>>572686434
FRIEND boiling in a pot of red
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>>572686235
yeah because you could actually meaningfully influence the state of the world in a bunch of ways in neutral that should be logically taken into account as well as people like dying or not. in deltarune, you have some choices that matter a very small amount, recruits, if berdly is frozen, lake, shadow crystal bosses being cleared MAYBE aaaaand that's about it so far. fewer variables one ending etc etc
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>>572684851
>>572684851

I need to seee more Kris and Pink/Maddie art holy
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>>572686434
Yellow with a noose around his neck, a gun in his mouth, an empty bottle of pills, and a car running in the background in a closed garage
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>>572686412
woah-ho-ho-hey thanks for the advice. that sounds pretty reliable right there and you, a man of high trustworthiness. i think i should listen to you and do exactly that, and i should do it every single day without fail. and i think that would be fine. don't you think? does it still work with vodka and coke? that's all i've got. waiting patiently for your answers and encouragement of this productive lifestyle.
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>>572686591
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>>572686591
why did you reply twice
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>>572686434
weird route lake proceed scene but they use these
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>>572686427
wouldnt a better question to ask be "would you stop seeing yourself as your gender if your being was magically transplanted into an opposite sex version of your current body"?
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>>572686674
dick in hand probably
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>>572685665
>>572685953
aqua cum inflation send post
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>>572685594
Ya that’s a good point, I guess it also matters how much you consider your hormones influencing your brain function as part of your gender, like if someone had completely different levels of estrogen/test growing up their personality would be wildly different
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What's up with Deltarune streamers adding tons of extremely distracting GIFs around the video?.. I tried to open many Notepad windows to obscure them, but then I can't pause the video. In the end I just closed the tab, not worth it.
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>>572686460
Of course I'm autistic I'm a deltafan
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>>572686656
im not saying you should drink yourself to death, but that if you're gonna pull through the fear and actually try to do it, you can numb the physical pain by drinking alcohol
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That dess pic scared ne :(
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>>572686738
Gen alpha needs stimmies or they'll close the video
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>>572686434
Susie going to Lancer School instead of real class now that she's a full time Dark Worlder
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>>572686738
people with shit ipad baby humor from the sound of it.
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mew mew's overworld motif is catswing, japan, it's the same motif
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>>572685889
4chan pro tip:
When someone is a woke retard you're meant to report and hide his post instead of replying to it and giving him motivation to keep shitting up the thread.
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>>572685297
Queen is a parallel to Carol so you could say this is Toby acknowledging Desselle
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>>572686514
Why she got the pirate Clark eyeball placement
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>>572686738
its for adhd people, just press K to pause the Deltarune vid if you want to
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orange if toby gave a shit
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Would things have been different if Deltarune took place in the midwest instead of Massachusetts
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fine, you want rat pussy so bad?
heres your fucking rat pussy
https://files.catbox.moe/aaeme4.jpg
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>>572686738
It's okay when Andrew does it
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>>572686917
I’m going to kill you
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>>572686893
>no eyelashes
no thanks
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>>572686660
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>>572686893
>>572686947
orangemind (based)
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>>572686902
woops accidentally became the best ship
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>>572686326
Gaster is green and inbetween.
It unironically makes sense
>Papyrus and Sans are Red and Blue, Mystery Man (who’s probably Gaster)’s door is identical to the ones in their house except it’s grey, there’s a painting of a bone with a green background in the middle of their two rooms in their house, the ABC doors in chapter 3 are RGB which isn’t weird but, red on the left is Papyrus’s room, Blue on the right is Sans’s, and the middle? yeah, it adds up with the skeleton house. RGB, with green in the middle
>the save interface in SURVEY_PROGRAM before you beat the chapter, the one where Gaster talks to us through it when you select options instead of it being generic text, is green
>Ralsei primarily wears green and is the most knowledgeable person when it comes to the prophecy, which seems to be something Gaster created
>as you go further and further into the lake in the Weird Route in Chapter 5, it turns green
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>>572686837
Why do you type like you're trying to ragebait someone into fucking your ass
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tem.....fertile...........
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Shoving my pipis into aquas deltapoon tell I reach darker yet darker places with my wing ding'a'ling, charging up my BIG SHOT and filling her up with FREEDOM and POTASSIUM and putting a friend inside her, chaos chaos remember don't forget goner gaster mew mew kissy cutie AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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>>572686947
hot hot HOT!!!
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>>572686947
BASED
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>>572687038
You learned nothing from Yellow's post, I'm going to kill you.
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>>572687041
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>>572685953
C-cute...
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>>572684231
(WING DING GAS TER)

WHO SPOKE TO AND MINDBROKE THE SALESMAN AND CLOWN?
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>>572686947
that's a child (mouse)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXd0Hqxzl_0
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>>572687041
it's that tem of the month.............
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>>572686947
>accurate nipples
based…
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>>572687002
I mostly agree with greenster but I actually think there's no universe with all 3 bros, Gaster and Papyrus are the same guy, Papyrus is just Gaster without his full memories/power. Papyrus is missing in Deltarune becasue Gaster was shattered, and at the very end of DR the last memory left of gaster (the Eggs) will cause papyrus to be born with no memories except mancountry (the green grass)
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>>572686947
Second time I've seen deltarune rat sex and both times the tail wraps around the cock. Why do rat fuckers share a braincell?
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Pinkris is trannyslop but I think it's good anyway because the entire fight exists to set up the parallel between their situation so keep cooking I guess
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>>572687152
she is 20 years old
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>>572686954
no
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>>572687152
that mouse is like 20
so is aqua
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>>572687189
ORANGE DIRECTED BACKROOMS???
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>>572687182
leg locking is hot and thats an approximation
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>>572687182
The cock won't fit inside so they must find an alternative
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>>572686947
UOOOH 6 NIPPLES
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>>572687208
why do they choose to act like children? are they into age regression?
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wtf is ralsei doing
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>>572687270
Every single flower sans golden acts like a retarded child.
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>>572687286
Ralsei leg lengthening surgery theory
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>>572686702
I think the question works better where "actually fuck gender, that doesn't apply to me any more" is also an option
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>>572687286
His best
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>>572687270
Not really but Asgore is and Pink told the others about the DDLG stuff in his search history
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>>572687118
Tamamo love! Monster Girl Quest and even Paradox are great games that don't rely on their porn despite having It.
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>>572687313
Green doesn't she’s just mute
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>>572687286
Go go gadget leg extender
It's probably just Toby trying to showcase the "game glitching" aspects of the weird route subtly kicking in through a chance-based "bug"
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>>572687313
>sans golden
NOOOO SANS IS GOING TO FUCK YOUR DAD'S BEST FRIEND
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>>572686893
cool orange
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>>572687189
Yep. She also understand what it means when we close the fountain, so definitely older than Aqua.
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>>572687313
>sans golden
is he gonna defeat frisk blue?
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>>572687390
Daddy sans physically cannot help himself but to cuck Asgore.....that evil fucking dog cannot be stopped...
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>he tought we would get a great rewarding for beating all super bosses
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>>572686376
Only if I get to hop in to Susie and slap Kris around
They are going to be on piano duty
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>>572686787
ohhhh you mean like. you mean like that. yeah i guess that would work. uhhh. is this like a scared straight kind of thing. you're gonna make me stop drinking for a week like that. cause i was just thinking earlier like damn i mean i'm not gonna kill myself right, i mean what would it even take for me to do that even at such a low point like this. and i figured well i'd probably have to be in some very deeply altered state, or completely uninhibited somehow, whether through total mania or panic or otherwise. i guess that's why i should still probably avoid drinking when i feel REALLY awful. said. uhh. drunk bunny. or something
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>>572686716
Reminds me of how the last time there was a big push for chromosome testing in Olympic athletes they stopped doing it because way too many athletes were finding out that they were actually intersex and never knew it, and it was upsetting a lot of people
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>>572687286
watching (you)
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>>572686947
lovely flowers, do you have a blog
>>572687182
tail wrapping is a staple for any size difference with a tail, it's the objectively correct choice
>>572687397
ty ty
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Eventually Seam will come back I just know it I KNOW it
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>>572687475
>Kris just initiates the fight for us.
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It's weird how I see people defending the Susie Noelle pairing online because it'll keep Noelle from doing something stupid like killing herself, as if she didn't have an arguably better date with Susie in the weird route cause Kris was not there only to instantly start lakemaxxing once she dipped. Being with Susie is just distracting her from an issue that'll blow up the first time something goes wrong between them and Susie loves avoiding dealing with stuff like that so she'd just enable the issue.
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>In 197x, Royal Sciences replaced the original DEVICE PET with an improved model known as the DEVICE-N (the N was short for "Neo"). The new machine used a standard green-phosphor-like interface in place of the white in the original DEVICE.
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>>572686917
the only thing I know about the midwest of Usania is that's where all your cosmic horror novelists set their stories
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>>572687559
the lake shit only happened because (You) fucked up her mind
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>>572687559
The thing about Noelle is that she's grown into a naturally toxic person and there wasn't really an opportunity to become anything else under her circumstances
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>>572687606
Tell me you only watched a playthrough without telling me.
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MONKEY MAN
MONKEY MAN
TAKE A SHIT IN HIS HAND
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>>572687606
It's amazing how many people don't get this and think the lake suicide pact shit is just Noelle's "real" self, after (You) spent two chapters fucking her up as much as possible in a way she'd have never done on her own
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>>572687606
Not only, You had a profound effect, but Noelle's preexisting plans/feelings are also being taken advantage of
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>>572687742
"fucking her up"
What exactly did you do to Noelle other than tell her "Hey, you can do this." And then she does it
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>>572687791
you must be baiting
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>Susie looses the bonus magic stat growth she gets from the Gerson fight, going back to her end of chapter 3 magic at the beginning of chapter 5
>Hometown for some reason has church on Saturdays instead of Sundays for no decernable reason
Toby switched the chapters, don't know why, but it explains a lot of the weird pacing issues 5 has.
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>>572687475
They say they'll show us something fun so I expect them eating those crystals and fighting us non binary pronouns are so stupid
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>>572685852
if you think about it chara has the moral right to rape any human they come across because humans are capable of great evil
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>>572687728
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>>572687837
>>572687475
I'm wondering if you get something totally different if you kept all crystals to yourself and don't give to seam
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>>572687742
It's amazing how many people don't remember her outright having the same fucking conversation about flying away with Susie in the ferris wheel in chapter two, or the entire segment of chapter 5's weird route where she explicitly explains that she's felt like this for 5 years since dess vanished.
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If a monkey went to Deltarune Susie would says "Wow" and then when it did a flip Susie would say "Wow" again
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>>572687728
Why did my brain sing this in the dragon tales opening cadence?
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>>572687925
truth nuke
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>>572684851
>that tail twist
You're gonna fucking kill me
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>>572686427
the difference is you haven't had your body suddenly changed without warning
your kind just decided one day you don't like your current body and want a different one
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Noelle says completely insane stuff and is a deeply disturbed individual even if you don't weird her.
She was always going to snap the second she gained any self awareness at all. Not only are her relationships likely to end up in disaster but the unavoidable nature of her mental illness and obsession is likely going to be the main source of conflict.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLDA9cfRLlg
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>anon genuinely believes us forcing noelle to kill her friend revealing we can read minds and stabbing her with a thorn had zero effect on her psyche
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>>572687736
why is the cute&funny flower there
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>>572687814
it rocks how desperate people are to absolve themselves of even potentially having a negative influence on the story in the "negative influence on the story" route. it's probably larp but i respect the commitment to the bit
why did chara make noelle do those things
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What? CHARA MORALITY DEBATE is evolving!
Congratulations! Your CHARA MORALITY DEBATE evolved into NOELLE MORALITY DEBATE!
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Noelle already wants to leave and hates her life and herself, Weird Route Noelle fully drops the mask even if she is also traumatized from what has happened to her and what she has done.
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>>572688019
The fact you went from directly arguing to non-replying and moving the goalpost from
>She was going to do something like this eventually anyways
to
>Soul didndunuffin
means you lost. Pack it up.
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On normal route Noelle will be a normal amount of mentally ill and on weird route she is the amount of mentally ill someone in the eye of a cosmic horror story ends up being
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I think Castle Town will be attacked in ch6. Susie thinks it's a safe haven, it's time she woke up to reality. Nowhere is safe.
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>>572688080
Shouldn't you be drowning
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>>572688080
…what
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>>572687934
what's the connection here
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>>572688138
cunny
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>>572688019
Your choices don't matter. Noelle gotta do Noelle things.
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>>572688103
I think sealing castle town is the endgame
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>>572688138
>human dess
>aqua
>vessel
the kris’s
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>>572687997
Which is why this horrible creature deserves to die
Please Toby give us the chance to slay this demon in chapter 6 and free the world from her impending catastrophic meltdown
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>>572687606
No no no. Noelle Is a sadomasochist and those are always bigger freaks than someone who Is just a sadist or a masochist. For one this happens way too quickly as It's very early after starting the weird route in just a couple rooms. More Importantly the sweepstakes and Noelle's blog confirm she has sadistic thoughts even with out the weird route. Noelle tries to hide that side of her but while posting online she doesn't care.
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>>572687934
A degodraws lo tenemos que matar
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What will cause everyone else to disappear and for Noelle to smile at you while holding flowers
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Noelle being mentally unstable is part of her core character in the game but weirding her route definitely fucked her up bad. It's like taking away a schitzos medication and giving them sugar pills instead and sneaking into their house to paint subtle faces on their walls. Yeah they're already schizophrenic but you're just making it so much worse
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>>572687819
>>Hometown for some reason has church on Saturdays instead of Sundays for no decernable reason
They are Seventh-Day Adventists
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>>572688231
english please
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>>572687980
>you haven't had your body suddenly changed without warning
Everyone does it's called puberty
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>>572688123
Should I type slower for you? The original argument that was made, that started this conversation was that regardless of the player's actions, Noelle was always going to have this sort of breakdown, with Susie only acting as a distraction. You, when confronted with the proof of that from her both talking the exact same way about "Growing wings and flying away" in chapter two, and saying she's felt like some sorta NPC going through the motions since Dess vanished, you went from directly arguing with the people who made those points to trying to strawman about an argument no one made saying that the player had zero affect on her mental stability.
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>>572688241
Anything it takes, I'll do it.
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My Epic Deltarune Backstory Prediction:
Kris did something really nasty to Noelle which caused her to awaken her sadistic side and retaliate (like in Cyber City where you try to shock her, she tries to shock Kris back and Kris gets all pouty about it) and this somehow caused Dess to get Dessappeared
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>>572687475
I wonder if there’s gonna be dialogue for plopping all the shadow crystals on seams desk in chapter 6 after not speaking to him for chapter 2-5
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>>572688190
Killing Ralsei and Pink's body would be retarded.
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>>572688093
>Dess reaffirming her claim on Kris
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Noelle clearly has issues still present in the normal route but the weird route is you making them a fuckload worse to an extent she wouldn't ever become normally
ERAM actively tries to do this exact same thing to Kris with the "knife grows dull" shit
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reject cunny, embrace ..... what was the word?
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>>572688285
>i changed from a small male to a big male
>this is... le horrible!
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>>572688138
artist is drawing humans and as we all know, the vessel, dess, and aqua are all human
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>>572688301
nigga I’m the one who said the lake shit only happened because of (You)
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>>572688362
I want it to be a look of fear.
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i hope the reward for the shadowcrystals is getting to have hot grandpa sex with seam
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>>572688440
Fact: Seam is they so it could be hot grandma sex
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>>572688190
>Have to seal the Grand Fountain to truly prevent the Roaring
>Susie refuses
>The Prophecy plays out
>The Girl is slain by the Human SOUL
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>>572688404
>Wilting Flowers
>Aqua
>60 years old
>100cm
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>>572688404
>sample_
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>>572688404
why did they make her barefoot in the dark world
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>>572688437
>look of fear
seam is the guy hoping to spar with stronger people so if anything it will be excitement.
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>>572688437
Seam sees the future so I don’t think he would be surprised
The only exception was him not knowing about the shadow mantle game, not sure why he couldn’t see that one
Maybe Eram is too powerful to read?
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>>572688553
I mean more so that he's worried about what your goal was collecting them without him prodding you each chapter.
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did no one else catch the subtext that kris dislikes susie and noelle's relationship? (either because they want to be with susie or because they believe that noelle is getting in the way of their friendship)
like, the music cutting out at the end for the crickets. susie closing the closet door with that expression.
is it just me? am i schizo? i feel like it was implied pretty fucking strongly but i haven't seen anyone acknowledge it.
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>>572688380
Nobody ever argued that normal route Noelle would do the exact same thing as Weird Route Noelle.
She just has the same opinion of herself and her surroundings on both routes. Her talk at the lake is exactly how she feels on the normal route as well, she’s just more manic and Proceedpilled on weird.
I wish we could start calling it B route already but whatever.
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>>572688671
yes everyone caught that and we talked about it already please go away
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>>572684667
I can't sleep because my neighbors' retarded kid is chasing their dog around the yard at fucking midnight and my asshole roommate is drunk and watching Joe Rogan to make himself angry so I'll just shitpost on /utg/ and play Pokemon Heartgold battle factory until I pass out or hear birds and see the sun outside (and then pass out)
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>>572688671
>did no one else
Bro have you not been in the thread the last few days?
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>>572688671
No we all noticed it. It's the Yurifags that deny it
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>>572688461
hot grandma sex... i am considering... i am okay with either...
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>>572682156
I absolutely hate the idea that the player is just Kris, it kills one of the most unique aspects of the game (and something specific to the medium of a video game) for split personality slop that you can already find in a ton of other things
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>You got the Pure Crystal!
>Has no special powers, but in the process of obtaining it, you became much stronger!
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>>572686480
>>572686563
>>572686612
>>572686690
>>572686816
Goodnight, san fransisco
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>>572688671
It's not quite the reaction to Sans, which might be the strongest one other than weirding Noelle at her house, but yeah Kris is in pain and not doing anything about it either.
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>>572688787
Nice, thank you
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>>572688671
It’s real but there’s also a strangely high amount of Kriselle moments in the festival if you choose to do things with her on the normal route that imply Kris may have had or has feelings for her.
I don’t know what the dog is going for really.
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>>572688758
I'm bringing Noelle in to snowgrave that doll.
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Chapter 6 - School
Chapter 7 - Holiday Manor and Hospital
Chapter 8 - Sjelter
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>>572688787
that pink and yellow nigga be getting comfy in there
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>>572688787
fucking incredible...
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>>572688414
it be that way for some
gonads aside, prepubescent kids are pretty much the same. "is your pisser an innie or an outie" don't matter
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>>572688787
Pool noodles… the good ending…
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Did anyone notice that when you see an album at home, Kris reads entries about Dess and Asriel just fine, but when it comes to Noelle, he quickly closes the Album. What's up with that?
Does Kris feel guilt to Noelle that she's not aware of for some reason? Does Kris fear Noelle? Does Kris regret those times? Or the opposite, does Kris wants to repeat those times, but feels it's too late?
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>>572688743
thoughts on baiten kaitos?
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>>572688703
>>572688709
sorry i actually didn't read the recent threads. i was catching up in the archive. my mistake.
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https://poal.me/ep0gdp
>over 50% of /utg/ prefers cunny
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>>572688758
>but in the process of obtaining it, you became much stronger!
I'm still bitter that Susie's "became much stronger" got completely reset in Chapter 5, magic gain is gone.
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Why are people drawing Noelle as a black girl? She's white as fuck
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>>572683060
The flowers are Toriel's wedding bouquet so they're really old. Asgore presumably kept them in the Dreemurr house before the divorce. Berdly used to play games with Kris, so Seth would have seen him before.
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>flowers represent the family
>>toriel is shown to be blue
>>>blue is trans and kriss is already a confirmed adoptee
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ᵗʳᵃnˢ ᵗᵒʳᶦᵉˡ
ᵀᴿᴬᴺˢ ᵀᴼᴿᴵᴱᴸ
ᵗʳᵃnˢ ᵗᵒʳᶦᵉˡ
ᵀᴿᴬᴺˢ ᵀᴼᴿᴵᴱᴸ
ᵗʳᵃnˢ ᵗᵒʳᶦᵉˡ
ᵀᴿᴬᴺˢ ᵀᴼᴿᴵᴱᴸ
ᵗʳᵃnˢ ᵗᵒʳᶦᵉˡ
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>>572688225
what is the difference between a sadomasochist and a sadist or masochist?
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what's up with the bomb/cat association

shows up in the eram fight, the mike rooms (doubly so with nagasagy kikky park), and even the mew mew fight (and she uses the michaelbomb itself in her diner scene)
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>>572688975
Chapter 5 gives us even more clues that the two of them were very very close when they were young and they still have a strong connection given that they ace the strength test at the festival together, Kris probably started repressing any feelings they might have had for her/grew bitter towards her because
>whatever happened with Dess involved them and Noelle (most likely)
and/or
>they thought it’d be bad for both of the Dreemurrs to date the Holiday sisters
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>>572689178
>>blue is trans
He's a crossdresser not a tranny
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>gaster misclick theory
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>>572689073
If Pink was an option I would have voted her instead of Aqua
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>>572689151
her fur is brown
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>>572688061
Like seriously Noelle decided to do those things. Noelle thought it was a dream and because of that she stopped trying to do what she feels Is the morally right choice because In truth she doesn't care If nobody could find out about It. By telling Noelle that chapter 2 was very real it makes Noelle understand that she Is a killer and has done something she can't take back. All things considered she took It way too well knowing she murdered Berdly and If you ask me a good person with real morals would have had a way worse reaction to killing their 'friend'. Maybe at least crying or I dunno getting depressed? It took Noelle a day to accept what she did.
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>>572688758
>"at least I'm on my aborted snowgrave file"
>go to where Malius would be
>he had a stroke and can no longer fuse items
>kris also threw away the thorn ring in between chapter 5's ending and 6's beginning for good measure
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>>572688975
My schizo theory is that Kris is extremely protective of Noelle and that the only reason Kris is working with the Knight/Carol/whatever and making fountains is because they promised to help in exchange for Noelle's safety.
Kris can be cagey about showing (you) details like how the dialog suddenly gets really fussy at you when you try to read Asriel's love letters but with Noelle they don't even entertain the idea of letting (you) know anything about her, so the only info you get about Kris and Noelle's past has to come from Noelle herself.
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>>572689151
it's due to the influence of the darkness underneath the town. first onion-san is eaten, now they want to turn noelle black. truely, something horrible is stirring underneath the town
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FRIEND/Seam is related to Kris's pursuit of learning magic. Somehow this is the key to everything
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>>572689224
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Mike
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>>572689265
because she's a deer, otherwise she literally acts like a rich european 16-18 year old
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>>572689073
>more votes for aqua than all others combined
>vast majority of the 20+ comments are from people who picked other flowers
yeah seems legit
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>>572688027
Because who made the pirate Gaster video had Aqua pop up with them
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>>572688671
kris doesn't like it, but they're conflicted. they know that they're betraying susie and probably ultimately leading her to her death, so they want susie to be happy or at least spend her last couple of days happy. doesn't mean they like it, they want to be the one with susie, but they don't want to try and but in and make things difficult for her.
thats my guess anyways.
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>>572689216
Nta, but sadomasochist enjoys feeling pain and inflicting it onto others. A sadist only gets joy from inflicting pain while a masochist only enjoys feeling pain. A sadomasochist is both and is often a very bad combination.
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>>572683073
The theorist had it right though. The only compromise on Mew Mew's side is allowing Maddy to use her body at all and only because she'd be damaged otherwise, whereas Maddy has to submit to Mew Mew's desires absolutely. If you apply that to Kris and the SOUL then the game is saying that you should only do what Kris wants and you are only allowed to stick around because Kris needs the SOUL to live.
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just wish Green had a huge cock tbqh
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>>572689259
Ywnbaf
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>>572689340
your question was answered
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>>572689340
she just acts like a stereotypical teen girl she could be any race
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>>572688671
You also can't ignore the fact that Kirs is betraying both of them. Kris clearly knows things about Dess's disappearance that Noelle doesn't, not to mention Kris keeping secret that Noelle's mom is blackmailing him. and Kris is actively trying to prevent Susie from getting all the codes to the bunker, and is colluding with the Knight
The door closing scene in particular, Susie has realized that it's pretty likely Kris is the one who opened the dark fountain in Asgore's shop. Which opens the possibility to her that Kris opened other fountains too. Which opens the possibility that their entire friendship is a lie. and Susie has made it clear she hates when people keep important things a secret from her.

That they're jealous of how close Susie and Noelle are becoming is directly tied to the fact that Kris can't be honest with either of them. Which means when everything is exposed, there's a good chance that when the chips fall, Kris saves the world, but loses all his friends in the process
Not to mention the potential parallels between Kris/Noelle/Susie and Dess/Asriel if it turns out those two also had a bunch of adventures in the dark world only for Asriel going to college creating a massive schism between them
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>>572689327
Maybe Seam was used as a voodoo doll or something when Catti and Kris summoned a demon, and that's why he has a bunch of higher knowledge about the Shadow Crystal holders and (probably) the prophecy?
I don't think there's any solid evidence besides Seam being on Asriel's desktop that was presumably drawn by both Asriel and Kris, but it's still an interesting thought
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Cattifags should start making high effort apology forms for when Chapter 6 drops and shows how mean Susie really can be
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It takes all colors to make a rainbow, except black.
Said Flowery
t. Ralsei
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>>572689454
She can't be a nigger
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>>572689387
I'd love to do what Kris wants if Kris fucking told me anything. I'm still sore about the hockey stick, I wanna be your friend, asshole!
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>>572689531
why not
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>>572689097
chapter 5 is separate game because bad at coding (laughs) please understand
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>>572689454
>blonde
Anon cmon
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>>572689454
she literally says "excheese me", that girl cannot be black
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>>572689515
shaddup gig
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>>572689302
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>>572689509
Chapter 6 will be the Catti chapter.
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>>572689216
A sadomasochist gets off on both the pain of others and their own pain. Their minds are constantly at war with them which very often makes them unstable. I'm not saying all sadomasochists are mentally unstable but It doesn't help and If they try to supress one of their sides eventually that side will crack and make the sadomasochist have thoughts of doing something that will hurt themselves and someone else.
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>HOLD YOUR FIRE
>THIS DOE ISN'T BLACK
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>>572689578
This but unironically. So much stuff is copy/pasted between chapters which is why Deltarune is now nearly a gig.
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>>572689073
Blame Toby Fox
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>>572689591
anon…
>>572689605
you haven’t seen a nerdy black girl
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>>572689302
carol would not put noelle in danger.
also my theory is that carol made noelle bake punitive christmas cookies and that's why they went in the kitchen.
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>>572689605
She's a furry, her fursona is a mouse
But she also fears mice, but she also enjoys being scared, eh
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>>572689496
>only for Asriel going to college creating a massive schism between them
Didn't Dess disappear 5 years before the beginning of the story? It's likely that they were both still in high school.
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>>572685496
Chapter 5 is the cutoff point for you to finish collecting all the save unbrickers so you can see Ramb again in chapter 6. Never lose hope.
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Catti, don't be a dinophobe.
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>>572681320
he would definitely mess with a character creator
have you seen his attempt at normal
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>>572689362
like, i guess those are the literal definitions, but i meant like, what makes sadomasochists bigger freaks than either one aside from just having traits from both? are they generally more prone to being fucked up like noelle or something?
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>>572689748
what are you talking about
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>>572689668
Blame GameMaker for being unable to do sandbox-games-style dynamic asset load. That's why they wanted to move away from GameMaker
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>>572689710
This still feels like bait, I can't not read that as her trying to push our buttons to do something. The little fucking smirk at the end sells it
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>>572689710
This happens if you abort WR in Chapter 4.
If you take her to the King and Queen voting and vote for Kris and Noelle while showing it to her, she won’t say this and will ride with you anyway.
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>>572689710
I love her overworld sprite is still smiling
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>>572689689
>Noelle is scared of herself
Wait actually that could be something
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>>572689790
On model Noelle is so fucking hot bros
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>>572689636
okay, so what happens if one suppresses both sides.
asking for a friend.
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>>572689854
she’s like 30% head
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>>572689668
He's larping game dev like it's ps1 jrpg multi discs
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>>572689302
I don't think it's like that. Kris didn't hide anything about Noelle before. It's specifically Kris x Noelle together gets that reaction.
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>>572689870
She's giving me 100% head
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>>572689870
>he hates head
What the FUCK is wrong with you? Head’s the best.
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When Susie and Noelle ask Kris to lead them around the festival because it's just "easier" somehow, it gave me the same vibe as Lancer getting a strange positive feeling following the party around in chapter 1 and Ralsei telling him it's because he's fulfilling his purpose.
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>>572689873
Kek
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>>572689387
>>572689553
Doing only things Kris wants would be a bit disingenuous to our friends, tho. It's like pretending to be someone you're not.
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Dess stinks
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>>572689996
Noelle…
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>>572689768
>but i meant like, what makes sadomasochists bigger freaks than either one aside from just having traits from both?
Clinically speaking, both are often derived from mental imbalances but often don't interact. A lot of serial killers are sadist but are not masochistic, meanwhile a lot of masochists come from childhood trauma or have some form issue with emotional self regulation. So when you have a case where someone is both it is usually an indicator of something seriously fucking wrong with them.
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>>572689925
Fiction hierarchy?
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>>572690015
Also the swinging back and fourth between them tends to cause beautiful princess disorder.
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>>572689710
What Is really Interesting about this scene Is that It only happens If you abort the weird route In chapter 4. The thing Is If you do as far as we are aware Noelle shouldn't be aware of the soul but she Is for sure talking to YOU here. Did Kris tell Noelle things offscreen about them being controlled? She clearly trusts Kris and seems to make the connection that It wasn't really Kris asking to go with her.
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>>572689553
You can’t be friends with Kris due to power structures. No matter how much you try nobody is going to be friends with their eldritch executioner. At any point you could instantly kill him and all of his friends. You could torture his parents to death. He would, at best, eagerly nod along and try to stay on your good side.
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>>572689710
>that expression
Goddamn
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>>572690082
BPD?
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>>572689509
>>572689624

Chapter 1 showed everything we need to know about Susie from the perspective of the other Hometowners. That's the maddening thing about it, the pieces were already there and then Toby rugpulled us not by revealing that Susie was secretly never an asshole but that Catti never cared about Susie being an asshole and it's just more lesbian romance drama.
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>>572690154
Ye
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Flowery's "they're eating my flesh" makes Youtube shit itself and age restrict videos
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>>572690115
we see that kris warns her about certain things in the weird route of chapter 4 if we listen into their conversation, but its implied they never tell noelle directly about the soul.
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>>572690178
If you mean Catti crushing on Noelle that's been implied as early as the sweepstakes
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>>572690082
>>572690154
wait thats what that stands for
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why can noelle equip the aqua knife? explain it to me
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>>572689870
There's something sexo about her goofy ass face. It's a shame a lot of fan art bastardizes her design
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>>572689961
I'm being so forreal that if I could replay Deltarune with an option that made me say and do the stuff Kris would say and do I'd do it without question.
I'd also argue going on as we are now is much worse, Kris is actively causing problems by making fountains and gatekeeping us and Susie from getting in the shelter or exposing the knight, so Susie is operating under this idea that Kris is working with her and not against her, and Kris is also making Ralsei cover for us. It's not a good situation for anyone to have what is basically two different people with two different goals in the same body, so if nothing else, I'd at least be happy being the driver and Kris telling me exactly where to go, because at least then we're on the same page.

This post is getting weird, tl;dr I just like Kris.
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>>572690279
BPD usually refers to bipolar disorder anon
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>>572690279
NO DON'T LISTEN TO THEM
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>>572690342
>>572690360
oh ok I will now kill myself for this blunder
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>>572689241
>>572688975
kris swapped with the vessel between 4 and 5
one of the two doesn't want us to see Asriel and Dess while the other allows it but is uncomfortable with noelle
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>>572690342
No, BPD is borderline personality disorder, bipolar is BD
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>>572687485
please don't do anything reckless anon, if you think drinking will lead you somewhere you shouldn't be then don't do it.
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>>572690279
That’s right! Get yourself a princess today.
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>>572690342
No that's BD or BP, BPD is Borderline personality disorder, both are different.
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>>572688787
Very good
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I don't think Noelle is really BPD though but more so just heavilly emotionally surpressed which, when she allows to creep out, comes out in intense episodes.
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>>572689695
Kris, Susie, and Noelle are in their last year of highschool, and Susie talks about how Noelle and possibly Kris are going to go to college next year while she just doesn't have the grades to do that.
If there's a generational cycle type thing going on, then Dess and Asriel also would have been playing in the Dark World in their last year of highschool with Asriel making up his mind to go to college and get away from his dysfunctional parents, and not wanting that might have motivated Dess to do something reckless that resulted in her being gone
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>>572690320
Because it's blatantly the worst possible item you can pick in that room and letting Noelle use it would give it some marginal use case if the player already has the black shard
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>>572687819
QC mentions they have church on Sunday, I think that it just happened a day earlier than usual because the festival is on Sunday
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>>572690258
There was still enough wiggle room for us to Cope, chapter 5 is when Noelle said plain as day that Catti only started disliking Susie after Noelle told Catti about her crush.
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>>572689861
I mean It's very possible to not be a sadist or a masochist (even If I believe everyone Is at least one or the other even If they don't realize It) but If a sadomasochist denied both sides and tried to say convince themselves they were completely normal It wouldn't go well for them. The person would end up easily upset or angry and likely would end up lashing out at others, blaming people they love for their problems and that kind of thing. It's never a good Idea for a sadist or masochist to bottle up what they are Into because eventually It's going to burst open and for a sadomasochist denying both sides of themselves It's going to explode.
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>>572690426
okay. yeah. i mean i'm trying to be careful. i'm really trying you know. i don't want to be an alcoholic or anything. i definitely don't need that right now. but you know. it's nice every so often. it's nice to forget, a little bit. i just hope i don't get too tempted. i'll be careful.
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Chapter 5 is the best chapter because it has the most weeb references and aesthetic.
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>>572690336
>and Kris is also making Ralsei cover for us.
Ralsei covers for everyone, unprompted. He never made comment about Susie making a fountain in ch4 (covers for Susie). He even asked Susie to not interfere in the Weird Route (covers for SOUL).
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>>572690415
>>572690437
Everyone jumps on him for getting two identical acronyms mixed up but people still use "schizoid" like a slang term for schizophrenic when schizoid personality disorder is entirely unrelated to schizophrenia
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>“I have BPD”
That’s your cue to run
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>>572688975
If we go by the idea that Weird Route is an idea of Kris's or at least something they know about being a possibility then them trying their hardest to keep (You) away from Noelle makes sense
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>“I have BPD”
That’s your cue to cum
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>>572690538
I don't, I still think the term "schizo bosses" is retarded and doesn't make sense since chapter 3 anyways
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It's funny how 10 years after undertale, Toby is making Noelle saying I want that when playing weird route.
People gaslight themselves in thinking the relationship between the player and Chara was we manipulating chara in being evil, even when in the game is implied the opposite.
And these people also thought weird route would make a point in us being the only ones evil and Noelle being just a victim.
These people will cope again and again despite toby telling them again and again that yes the creepypasta they/them and girl are evil.
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>>572690320
Why can Noelle equip Flowery's broken scarf?
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>>572690538
There's a schizophasia, which anons also refers as being schizo.
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>>572683075
>>572684827
BIG BOOTY BITCHES
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>>572690607
That kind of crazy pussy isn’t worth it
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>>572690628
noelle can equip a lot of random things, we won't know till next chapter probably
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>>572690610
Pink is literally Schizo though
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>>572690610
Is "FREEDOM-pilled boss" better?
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>>572690628
Because she can do anything... as long as we tell her to.
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>>572690610
Does anyone even use the term schizoboss anymore, though? I haven't seen it thrown around since extremely early 3-4 era threads
Though to be fair, Gerson implies at some points he's going a little crazy
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Can someone explain starwalker to me? I dont get it. Why do people think he's funny? What's the joke? Why does he keep repeating the same thing over and over again with weird formatting. What the hell is a starwalker. I dont get it.
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>>572688990
I haven't played but I'm aware that it has a similar twist with the player and protagonist, same with that game Contact, but Deltarune's execution is still pretty unique.
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>>572690628
She's the Red Mage type character
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>>572690731
shadow crystal bosses should be the term since thats the only thing linking them together (or making them really significant)
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what are the chances this is gasters goner
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>>572690719
>Expecting Noelle being in our party simply because Susie expects it and internal files
kek. You're up for disappointment.
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why can't I have a close childhood friend like Noelle who's NOT related to me.
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>>572690791
Star
Walker
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Gaster's boner...
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>>572690791
He's original
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>>572690791
This post is pissing me off.
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>>572689861
Both can be surpressed to a certain extent, but the tendencies will always remain with them throughout life. Masochism can often be safely practiced in moderation but you need to place firm boundries or else you will near closer and closer to near death experiences. Sadism is harder to do as it involves inflicting misery onto something, with animals often being the first step before reaching people. With masochism you will always have a self-preservation extinct to kick in when things go south, sadism doesn't have that. It's just a treadmill that can keeping escalating from inflicting pain to watching/feeling something die. But again, it can be surpressed. Gary Ridgway was a prolific serial killer until he got married to Judith Lynch who helped calm his sexual sadism, and he is the most prolific recorded killer in the US.
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>>572690817
But Gerson didn't use the Shadow Crystal, it was chilling in his desk during the fight. Pink probably also didn't use it
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it's been over a decade i'm going back in
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>>572690731
>>572690817
how do you account for ERAM
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>>572690790
>Though to be fair, Gerson implies at some points he's going a little crazy
That's just senility
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>>572690850
It’s fucking tough.
I had a couple but they’re all gone now, either they stopped talking to me entirely back in high school or they got married and also stopped talking to me.
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>>572690791
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>>572690819
At this point Toby will probably rewrite Mystery Man to be Gaster to not piss off the fans
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>>572690850
it's worse when you used to have one like that and now they've completely disappeared from your life and you don't even know where they are now
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>>572690839
>Thinking toby would pass on more Noelle Susie dialog, doubly so with making them ACT together in combat
kek
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>>572689224
Dogs = ice (ICE-E is supposed to be a dog)
Cats = fire
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>>572690940
ERAM doesn’t drop a Shadow Crystal.
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>>572690940
ERAM is the secret boss, Roaring Knight is the Shadow Crystal holder, Ramb is the 'freedom' character
It's a trinity instead of a single character because Chapter 3 is the pattern breaker chapter
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>>572690923
they don't need to use the crystal, its just who we get it from

>>572690940
eram is an actual secret boss, but technically isn't necessary to get the shadow crystal
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>>572690791
*
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The soul will follow Susie throughout chapter 6, while Kris does heinously evil shit offscreen in a fit of jealousy
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>>572691058
Is Miss Mizzle a secret boss?
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>>572690850
It's not worth it. I know a Noelle and go out of my way to avoid the urge to contact them (they were coached at a young age to think we were destined together by their BPD mother).
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It's weird how much of the wider fandom still cling to the idea of the fun gang being like 14 or 15 year olds when the game makes multiple references to their age group going to college soon.
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Noelle joining the party will be justified because she will make an excellent projectile for Susie to Idea at enemies
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>>572691120
you’ve made this exact post how many times now
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>>572691083
more cuckery
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>>572690850
because childhood friends are childhood circumstances.
All the friends I made in grade school went to a different high-school to me and we drifted apart. If everyone goes to the same gradeschool and highschool that doesn't happen
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>>572691120
That's just Tony backtracking to not alienate the people drawing thousands of pictures of Berdly getting fucked by Kris
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>>572691083
Please no, I don't want to be fucking forced to watch Susie and Noelle interact the whole chapter unless I get to drop hints to WR Noelle that I'm there still, then I can deal with it
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>>572691104
I don't really remember if shes an optional side encounter or not, but the only requirements to be secret is a hidden optional boss.
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why did toriel throw a fireball at her own son the flower
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>>572691083
Calling it now, we'll find out what specifically happens when Kris goes into a Dark World without the soul in Chapter 6, assuming he opens a fountain or two during his spergferno of jealousy and is too weak to leave wherever the fountain was opened due to being soulless for too long
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goober
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Remember Spamelle? Now she seems it will be her ending in the weird route.
Can't wait for Noelle to freeze the earth and schizobabble about freedom with freedom pilled lost girl theme in background.
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>>572691187
>backtracking
chapter 1 Has tori talking about Asriel being gone, with Kris soon to go as well.
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>>572688743
better than having the idea that none of the chaarcters give a shit about your character for 20+ hours and 8+ years stuck in your head during every single character interaction and epic boss fight, its just a distraction that is unwelcome
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>>572691210
Asriel can save and load states like on an emulator as long as there are no humans in the underground and he presumably elects not to tell his parents about his condition past a certain point
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>>572691304
CoL…
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Kris knows it's all going to fall apart around Susie and she'll be left alone with nothing in the end like a thrown away doll nobody wants so there's no point to getting upset about her getting together with Noelle
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>>572691198
>if shes an optional side encounter
she is
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>>572690148
The player can't do either of those things, what the fuck are you talking about? Also Kris can just not put the SOUL back in their body. I'm sure the hospital can get whatever the Deltarune equivalent of MTT brand human SOUL subsitute is for them.
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he's so cute :)
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Going back to UT it's bizarre to remember Gaster gets actual mentions and is not just a collective schizo hallucination had by the fandom
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>>572690928
I just played it the other night. Still fun
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>>572691336
hey it's KIND of a valid point, albeit one that is deliberate on toby's part.

though, he did say "i hope someday you'll make friends with everybody" specifically referring to the player, and when darkners say BOSS, they are referring to you specifically.
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>>572691351
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>572689961
>our friends
Those are Kris's friends
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how old would we assume toriel actually is
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>>572691185
Not every country have an American system. In other countries it's a single school building all the way from the first to eleventh grade.
So the only separation points are after kindergarten and after you graduated from school.
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>>572691436
All I see is this
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>>572691548
Kris has no friends
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>>572691464
friends? i aint feeling it when the players of this game call themselves parasites in their own words
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>>572690239
They're eating my they're eating my flesh voice clip!
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Maybe this is old news, but I think Kris started distancing himself from Noelle because of the Soul, which probably took control over him around when Dess went missing. The soul is what let him close the fountain, thus making it not an active threat. It also explains why Carol and Asgore already seem to know about it.

Having your actions decided for you, and living in your own body as a silent prisoner sounds like absolute hell. I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to maintain relationships considering all the bullshit we make him do.
Maybe that's why seeing Noelle and Susie together hurts him so much. He knows that one of them would have been him if he was just allowed to just be himself unambiguously for once.
That's why I like the scene at the Holiday Manor in chapter 4 where we just see Kris taking a few minutes to drink some chocolate milk, and play the piano. But then he's told that he needs the soul for what they're planning, and he's devastated.

I really don't have an idea why whatever plan Kris, Carol, and maybe the Knight are doing can't be explained to Susie and Noelle. I guess we'll find out when they actually reveal it all, but I don't see it just being evil for evil's sake. Obviously Carol wants to find and rescue Dess, and Kris definitely would too. Asgore knows about this whole ordeal obviously, but does that mean the Knight isn't working with them? Maybe Asgore was letting himself be captured, and that's why he didn't fight back.

The best part is that I think all of the answers to these questions could be brought up and resolved in half a conversation. That's the thing about this sort of theory-driven story as opposed to something like Five Nights at Freddy's or Dark Souls. Those two are intentionally incomplete stories meant to be figured out, while Deltarune is a naturally incomplete story meant to be speculated on while awaiting the answers we can be reasonably confident are coming.
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fave is depressed
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Junichi Masuda > Toby Fox
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>>572691549
50s.
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>>572691548
Kris, stop posting, you had zero hours of sleep this week
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>>572691549
in deltarune anywhere around the 40-50 range. in undertale possibly a lot older than that.
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Kinda bummed there was no follow through on the Susie voice clip. Maybe a later chapter
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>>572691549
Several centuries old in Undertale, like 40s-50s in Deltarune
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>>572691641
Third entity won...
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>>572691664
>Kris Dreemurr and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day
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>>572691548
Kris's friends are the knight and everyone else trying to cause the roaring. Even Noelle wasn't sure If she could call Kris her friend In chapter 2
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>>572691656
Toby would clear Masuda in the cunny contest
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>>572691656
Anon if you're being held hostage and posting this just so you don't get insects forcefully shoved up your anus give us a sign
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i love my husband ralseo
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>>572691751
Nigga who asked
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>>572691083
If the Soul follows Susie, it's going to torture her knowing that she's not in control over herself, and knowing that this is what Kris had to go through for potentially years.
Meanwhile, I think Kris is just going to spend a day playing piano, making/eating some pie with his mom, maybe kill sans, and go play some Dragon Blazers with Noelle and Berdly to try and figure out which character he represents. Especially if (as I've speculated) he can trade souls with a monster to survive without his player human soul.
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>>572690791
I will also reply
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>>572691351
>actually thinks suselle wont be played straight
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>>572691625
kris is living off borrowed time. we're not a parasite. we're a sapient IV drip that kris is taking advantage of.
the only reason kris didn't stuff us in a box and throw it in the lake in the weird route is because they're scared to die.
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>Cosmic Entity Keeping You Enslaved Insists It 'Only Has Your Best Interests In Mind', Reports Indicate
>Arbitrators of the meaning of free will were unavailable to comment.
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>>572691548
>Noelle has distanced herself from Kris since dess vanished cause he's just another of the hometown NPCs until we come along
>Susie would have zero interest were it not for the Darkworld situation
>We see that the other kids talk shit about Kris behind his back like when you go to the shelter with Susie and run into Monster kid
He has none of those.
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>>572691549
Boss Monsters have immortality so if you're wondering what her "physical" body age would be, it'd be however old the Boss Monster aging cutoff is + however old Asriel was when he died
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>Kris takes out the SOUL at the end of ch5
>Susie sees no difference when interacting with that soulless corpse
According to Noelle, anyone who can't see the difference is an NPC. Is Susie an NPC?..
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>>572690928
Do the no healing/bandage only/LV1 neutral challenge run, it's fun.
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>>572690923
>Gerson
Gerson himself didn't use the Crystal, but his son produced it, so it's still relevant to the fight. Because of his unbreakable will he's trying to help his son from beyond the grave.

>Pìnk
Kind of convoluted but she does use it. The Mad Ghost (purple) didn't use it herself or even know what it was (she can't cuz she's a lightner) but the Mew Mew darkner was using it. That's why you got two sets of strings at the end, and why she gets possesed by schizo knowledge in her song. Also her broken dream of being a nobody is what created the crystal in the first place. We're just in time to calm her despair down and stop her from going schizo warped from eldritch knowledge like Jevil and Spamton.
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>>572691807
>maybe kill sans
He better not, I still want that rematch. Ironically that's OUR thing more than Kris's, one of the few things in hometown the player actually has claim to.
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>>572691905
>Is Susie an NPC?
Just wait you until you discover the how to draw dragons magazine dialogue...
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>>572691807
>it's going to torture her knowing that she's not in control over herself
Susie can just ignore it, tho. Would be a very boring chapter if she does that, tho. Susie says that she trusts us in Chapter 5, so she'll likely listen voluntarily.
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We know where Spamton's shadow crystal came from (Mettaton's lost dreams for the NEO body he could never have) but what about the other ones?
Whose dreams were lost to make Jevil's shadow crystal?
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>>572691959
Or the drawing under Dess's bed
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>Missed all the Noelposting in the past threads because I was asleep
Why do amerifats get the best hours?
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>>572680953
hey i can actually answer this.
it's very simple actually. toby wanted all the Sex Appeal to be concentrated in Flowery.
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>>572691807
Susie would still be in full control of herself if we're not physically inside her and there's no reason for her to put the SOUL inside when she presumably has her own normal SOUL. The SOUL's commands, when not in the body, are basically just a voice telling you what to do and Susie herself has demonstrated several times that they can be easily ignored.
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>>572692059
American hours are absolutely dismal though. Just wait 7 hours and the thread will be a complete shitflinging disaster
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>>572692039
>Whose dreams were lost to make Jevil's shadow crystal?
That's a retcon so it's messy, but maybe Seam's himself given how he talks about him
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>>572691943
AFAIK Shadow Crystal bosses fuse with the Crystal and the only way to get them is to revert to being equipment.
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>>572692112
best game of all time according to millions of people
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The one in cage is the soul.
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>>572692059
I wonder if there will ever be a genderbend modpack for Delta after all the chapters come out
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>>572692059
why is he kind of moe
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>>572691267
based and cute
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>>572692039
ours, it was the one meant for vessel creation and it got discarded

Seam probably took it because their stuffing/tail is FRIEND and currently owns the vessel
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>>572692161
Ryan Haywood is that you?!
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>>572692137
There's a theory that Seam is the real Shadow Crystal holder, and the broken dream was Asriel's.
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>>572692079
Only for fat ass aqua to waddle in and suck it all up
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>>572692039
>Gerson
Father Alvin

>Pink
Maddy

>Ramb
Has to be someone within the Dreemur household. Kris maybe?

As for Jevil, we can only theorycraft. I asume it is someone that went to that school, and maybe it will be someone who sequestered themselves in a dark worl? The dude is so far gone it's really hard to tell and between you and me I think Toby didn't have thought of this "broken dream" thing yet.
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>>572692165
>genderbent weird route
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>>572692059
It's probably just hindsight but I am getting massive columbine vibes even just from that second row
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>>572692039
the dreams of generations of kindergarten kids that thought they could be anything when they grew up only to be forced to put their toys away
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>>572689636
how can i know if i'm one or the other or even both? sometimes i cant help but to wonder...
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i worked a 12 hour shift, can someone explain to me why gaster is a pirate now
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>>572692317
>Jevil got his shadow crystal from Burgerpants
Big if true.
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>>572692312
It does kinda look like he is being illuminated by a muzzleblast lmao
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>>572692326
If you're alive and not in jail, then you do not suffer from this.
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>>572692273
Asriels dream of being with dess
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Vessel in chapter 6, 7 or never?
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>>572692140
Which is only that really happens to Jevil and Spamton. Ramb was too weak/good natured to use it. Gerson resisted the temptation. Pink almost became lost but Kris stops it.
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>>572692348
Shitpost meme video that blew up on Twitter https://x.com/drit__/status/2071071664113103151
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>>572692383
never, give up on that, it wouldnt change anything anyway, be real about that
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>>572692358
The final one on the third row is FOR SURE the Doom pistol animation
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>>572688282
I said a Degodraws lo tenemos que matar
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You guys remember that one concept art of Seam where he has a staff that's described with broken dreams right I think that's important
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>>572692396
but why a pirate
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>>572691998
I mean if the Soul actually embedded itself into Susie like it does Kris.
We follow her a bit in chapter 1, but she can't even hear us, let alone listen to what we tell her.

>>572691952
I doubt it'd be as fun without the vengeful determination he had facing off against the human who killed his brother and nearly everyone else in the underground.
Still, a casual fight with him set to "The song that might play when you fight sans" would be a lot of fun.

I know Toby is just itching to find a good place to put his newest rendition of Megalovania in Deltarune though. I'm hoping it's a good one. Imagine the secondary melody gets replaced with the Freedom Motif. That would be wild.
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>>572692386
Ramb never GOT the crystal in the first place because the Knight was late.
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The aborted Side B where Noelle goes all "nothing changed" is the one where Noelle and Kris die
Gaster intervened to unfuck the timeline and place both of them back alive in the same way he lets you retry the Knight battle
The full Side B ending is the one where they live and glitch out of bounds
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>>572692312
Canon Noelle is too, but nobody points it out because she's a girl
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>>572692460
People are speculating that Normal NPC is a parrot who repeats things he's heard (Like Onion saying 'Wait, don't!' before getting turned into takoyaki), so people started joking he was a parrot on Gaster's shoulder
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>>572692462
>but she can't even hear us
She can hear something, just not what exactly.
Also every time we do a dialogue option, she imagines what Kris would tell her to do (but she ignores it).
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>>572692497
>>572692497
>>572692497
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>>572676487
This isn't even feral though
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>>572692396
Deltarune if it was written by Vivziepop
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Chapter six's gameplay gimmick is going to be a whole SNES Super Mario Kart grand prix.
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>>572692460
Vessel = his ship
Chapter 5's weird route implies the depths may be underwater = Davy Jones Locker
NormalNPC = A Gaster follower who is a parrot, he killed Onionsan for food (slayed the kraken)
Papyrus has a pirate flag in his room
Toby voiced a skeleton pirate with a green bandanna in We Baby Bears
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>>572691104
>>572691198
I think that Miss Mizzle doesn't count as a secret boss because she's in the recruitment system, so she's more of a miniboss like Werewerewire (who is technically optional.) She's in a weird in-between zone though since it's easy to miss her if you skip Gerson's fight and never backtrack.
I'd say the Mikes and the Trashy trio both count as secret bosses since the former require you to either know the code already or reload your save and the latter requires you to have full recruits. Obviously neither of them are superbosses though. It would be funny if Trashy trio was as hard as a shadow crystal boss.
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After CH5 Weird Route I fully understand why Toby's dream about Noelle compelled him to make UT/DR

Hard to believe this all happened because Hussie didn't properly remove mold from his basement
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>>572692140
that is never stated
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>>572692540
I fell for the doebait hook line and sinker initially. I thought she was a masterfully executed version of the horror girlie archetype, the type of girl that gets excited over horror movie murderers and grows up to have rape fantasies about Pyramid Head. It turns out she was actually one step from derealization the whole time.
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>>572692505
Wait, didn't the Knight at least make contact with him with any way? How did Ramb know so damn much then? I always thought there was some sort of temptation involved that got interrupted cuz he was turning to stone and he was a nobody doormat like that Pippin says.
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>>572692326
It's really quite simple and you don't have to find out physically. Have you ever found yourself thinking about hurting someone else and at least kind of gotten off to the fantasy of It? Have you ever thought of someone doing something to you that you know would hurt but get off to a fantasy of It anyway?
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>>572691858
>Keeping You Enslaved
Kris is the one imprisoning us. They're literally called "the cage," this isn't even ambiguous.
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>>572692756
>How did Ramb know so damn much then?
Ramb have eyes. I dunno why all other darkners didn't see Kris opening the Fountain.
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>>572692756
Most darkners seem to have at least a vague idea of the prophecy. Also, most of what Ramb says is about Kris.
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>>572692831
Yep, that's why we walk around doing everything Kris tells us to.
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>>572692462
>the Soul actually embedded itself into Susie like it does Kris.
The SOUL does not embed itself into Kris, what the fuck are you talking about? Kris puts the SOUL inside them. The SOUL has no input over this. In chapter 4 you can even put the SOUL right next to Kris's body and nothing happens, it's probably not even physically possible for the SOUL to force its way inside.
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>>572692273
>>Ramb
Ramb doesn't have a shadow crystal
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>>572693057
Okay I get that now, but a) it was meant for him at some point and b) the important part is I was trying to speculate where that one comes from anyways so it's practical to refer to it as his crystal anyways. That or just "Chapter 3's"
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>>572686947
Peak..
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>>572692943
Kris is extremely passive most of the time, but if they don't want to do something, they don't do it.



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