Edition EditionPreviously on /copeg/: >>572613146>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived.https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2 (check /vm/ for general)Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterKilling Floor 3John Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far West:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
You guys got any more clips like this?
>>572698239>he uses titlesI dress all my base-game characters in the rags + beta cuck helmet and use no portraits or additional cosmetics of any kind.It ensures that my disdain for Fatshark never fades even if the game is in a better state than it was at launch, and a reminder to never buy anything of theirs anymore until at least a year out from release.I only wish the DLC classes had something similar.
ogryn players and being weird+autistic, name a more perfect duo
>>572706230vet mains crying, bitching and whining about their class being bad every time it's actually one of the best
Unlocked aurics on my Arbites guys, prepare to have the most retarded man alive in your games
does soulblaze always count as a melee kill or is it just the vt2 scoreboard mod that just lumps DOT's into melee?
>>572706831I thought that stat on the scoreboard was "melee/ranged enemies killed", and not "enemies killed with melee/ranged"
>>572706548Take shield and maul and use block attacks, you'll be fine
>>572706960Oh, that would make a lot more sense then.
Question, is this like per second, or just spread out across the duration of Momentum. If it's the latter, that means Eternal (extends duration to 10s) makes this toughness node strictly worse, right?
>>572705349close enoughwelcome back fempyro
>THE THREE SHALL MEET>goes on vacation
>>572705349>>572707686Kinda baffles me after all these years there are no gooner mods like this.
>>5727075850.4 toughness per second per spent stack(s)the duration node combines to increase the total received
>>572707979Okay, thanks. The wording is ambiguous and that's a huge difference between good and total dogshit so I had to double check
>>572707013AssTake shock maul and shockpistol + shield, have some fun
>>572708975Oops wrong thread
>>572707013Just finished my first one and I didn't notice a difference between it and Damnation. Arbites shock baton because I like whacking things and that starter shotgun because I like the way it shoots things.
>>572709103Nah, it's not a terrible node but it has better options on either side of it.
>Complete mission>Crash
I would like the medicae servo skull to just be a default ability to counter skitarii who sabotage the team because they think it isn't worth investing in.
I skipped Darktide's Hive Scum launch and came back and have been playing for 1.5 weeksI have not seen a single hive scum, are they bad or something?
>>572710050high skill floor
>>572710050The class is as effective as you are as a player, almost 1:1An extremely good player can damn near solo havoc with it, the class is that brokenThe average auric shitter is a massive jobber on it and has thus abandoned itIt's also kinda bad at soloing objectives and getting revives off, which makes it frustrating to play with retards
>>572709858jokes on you I sabotage the team by dying with it and then never finding another grenade pickup for the rest of the mission.
>>572709858Sorry but skitarii have too many good nodes to pass up so I can pick your bum ass up. Just don't die in retarded spots.
Best blessings for the ogryn pickax?
>>572709858I dont run the skull, not dying is on you, go fuck yourself
>>572710130you did your best
The Noospheric Skull only build is overrated as FUCK lmao you do not do more damage than spamming Claw or Voltaic and you completely lose the boss-killing of the former and the utility CC of the latter. Also it's fucking boring.
>>572710420In (You)r hands, I'm sure.>the noosy will never get nerfed because brown hands can't pilot it
>>572710420all points in this post are wrong except for the fact that the other skit builds can also do damage and tells me all you did was mash ping and do nothing else.
>>572710420I'm pretty sure it's one autist parroting it over and over because it makes him feel real cool.It's good but nothing special.
>>572710596Okay but that's every skit build.Skit is not the strongest überclass but it's pretty good overall.I agree with that anon that said that the thing skit brings to the table is action economy.
>>572710420I mean, it's kinda neat to be super juiced in combat because of all the extra points you get to spend elsewhere, but yeah I agree. Noosphere is great as a multi-tasker tool on a claw build with decent cap generation, dunno why you'd give up such a fun ability, it's definitely not "worth" it besides memes.
>>572710694>the thing skit brings to the table is action economy.What does this mean, exactly?
Newfag here, what's the best way to get a weapon of decent quality?Is it really just pure RNG at the end of missions? Can't I target weapons in some way?
>>572711009It means he has trouble doing the puzzles and trust issues from projecting his ASSlet experiences onto havoc (he doesn't know teamwork exists)
>>572711067check the shop every hour until find one with the dump stat you want, then upgrade it manually
>>572711067The best way is to spend dockets at brunt's to get a gray with the dumpstat you want and then spending mats to upgrade it at Hadron.It's also the most expensive way if you're new and poor.
>>572711067Look at restocks to pick up a weapon with good stat distribution (usually something like 80 in everything except 60 in Mobility or whatever the most useless stat is at that specific weapon, Google it) and upgrade it until it's good.Alternatively just burn money and buy gray guns until you get one that has it and upgrade it.Random rolls are very, very rarely good but until you have a weapon you crafted yourself just use whatever highest level weapon you happen to drop.
>>572710148>>572710242It's so you can pick people up while three monstrosities and every special and elite on the map are focusing you.
>>572711236Only do this when you're 30
>>572711543Is it boomer self-hate hour again
>>572711465Yeah not my problem.
>penances that require you to play like a retard to achieveGood or bad?
>>572711628If you're 30, start doing this ->O
>>572711009I am the action economy anon and the jist of it is everything the skull can do for you frees not only you but your team up to do other things. It just lets you do more in the same amount of time as another class. I'm not arguing that makes it "good" or not, but as I see it that's the unique benefit a skitarii brings to a team. For example, every time your nooskull kills a sniper while you're bashing a crusher's skull in, that's action economy. You didn't have to waste time dealing with it, and none of your teammates did either. Same applies to skull revivals, minigame hacking, etc. Do you *need* them? No, of course not, you're a big strong gamer. But everyone on your team will be safer and more effective if they don't have to focus their attention on it. On top of that, the now-fixed Voltaic Emitter takes action away from the enemies in a huge radius, which plays into the theme.
>>572711756should be the standard. penance hell for at least a week before you can play like a normal person.
>see skitty using noospheric only build>throw smoke grenades on him>entire build shut downnothing personel :)
>>572711913kek does that work
>>572711820Action economy is nowhere as important in games without limited time. It matters in turn based slop, not in slasher slop with twitch shooter mechanics.
>>572711958Yes the skull is affected by all LoS that affect enemies, so psyker bubble, smoke grenades, lights out modifier etc
>>572711780Damn, can confirm, started doing this and became Jason Statham. Thanks, anon!
>>572711958the skull can't see through smoke, can't shoot through psyker shields and straight up doesn't work in lights out missions
>no bwo try the combat knife it actually slaps>try it out on skitty witty>it feels like ass the entire time, feels like I'm doing no damage at all. lacking any type of feedback>mission ends>topfrag and deal 2x everyone elses damagehuh ok
>>572712171>>it feels like ass the entire time, feels like I'm doing no damage at allFinesse finesse finesse. You want to stack crit, finesse, weakspot multiplier, etc. all of the finesse related stats. It loves stamina because the push attack has obscene single target damage. You must build around it for it to be effective, else it's just a run + bleed stick with good mutant poke.
>>572712010To an extent, but I think you're looking at it from a macro perspective; over time APM compounds into a huge snowballing effect in turn based games, yes. But moment-to-moment matters too, because every extra action may mean killing something very important that could start a death spiral. Every moment of combat, you are taking your "turn" by doing something, it's just that enemies resolve their "turns" simultaneously and the outcome results from the two decisions colliding, rather than going back and forth.But again, I didn't even say it was important, it's just my read on the skit's unique identity in a team.
What's a good build for this?
>>572710130>taking it only to waste itdiabolical
>>572712171Which knife were you using? I love the swipe light attack spam with the good cleave buffs skitty gets and the push stab on the mk 6
>>572712498Sweep, capacitance on kill
which are the best arby voices?
>>572712743male maul
>>572712743Do you want Judge Dredd? MaulDo you want autism? AuthoritarianDo you want "too old for this shit"? Fatalist
My combat fantasy is having little minions assist me and so I shan't ever be playing anything except Arbitrator and Skitarii.
>>572713349I like it when I sic the dog on something and use remote detonation when it runs through other things on the way
>>572709858>>572711465So playing any other class is "sabotaging the team" as well? How did you function before you had access to ranged revives?
i like the crowbar
>>572713682Eating up grenade pick ups needlesly is griefing the team.
>>572712743maul
>>572713682Playing a class and intentionally building poorly.
I think I'm going to try Psyker or Hive Scum this evening. Any tips for a retard who mostly plays Arbiter or Ogryn?
>>572712743Male MaulI AM THE LEX
>>572715083you are glass, get to level 30 and come back to us
>>572715083You will actually have to play the game for once and you might not like what it is
>>5727121712 million hours and I still can't into the knife. If my weapon can't cleave poxies or knock heavies on their ass I'm not interested. I know it's good tho.
>>572714338Nobody uses grenades anyway
>>572715083>psykerGet assail and take all the supporting nodes. It rapes low difficulty enemies.You get access to voidblast staff at level 5. Get one, use the leftclick, it is your best attack. The blast is good but do not obsess over it, just leftclicking things dead is often better. Shock staff at 8 is the best at leftclicking.You get access to the greatsword at level 9. It is the best melee available to the class, and the horizontal light attacking one is the easiest to use for horde clear, especially if your staff is built for single target. I suggest putting flak and infested on it. Infested is not optimal, but it does provide the best and easiest horde clear especially when farted-on poxers take twice as much effort to kill.Most of the above stops mattering as much once you're high enough level. Don't take this as gospel on how psyker is supposed to play in the higher levels, or higher difficulties. It's just supposed to make leveling easiest for you. Yes, you have my permission to run +1 wound if you frequently fuck up and blow yourself up.
>>572715083Assail is OP while leveling psyker. But at some point you need to learn to enjoy a staff or two, that's where the real power is. Don't spam smite. Unless you're doing the penance.
>>572714338I often take revive skull but i almost never pick up grenades. It's 4? free revives per mission. Have saved a couple missions with it.
>>572713829me too
Tried the phosphor gun. It's Ok. Good sidearm. But don't understand why some people fellate it so much. Seems like a slightly better revolver? Boltgun sidegrade? Tried the noosyskull. Holy shit this thing kills almost everything and has infinite ammo what the fuck. Would not be surprised if they nerfed it.
>>572715083You're made of paper, but you're unstoppable as long as you don't get hit, you won't be used to that coming off arby and ogryn
>>572706548if you bring the dog it's almost impossible to not be useful
>>572712743Male Maul MOGShttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/yBwVTEIC5jA
>>572717539Is maul the one who'll accuse another arbiter of being an imposter?
>>572717198I think that the people that giga-hype the phosphor pistol are the ones that place extraordinary emphasis on the Mans-stopper blessing granting infinite cleave on crit. So it's basically a revolver that can punch through a horde like the plasma gun to hit that special way behind 30 bodies.
I went back to playing Arbites after several hours on Skitariii, and Skitarii seems weak in comparison? Outside the claw that rapes everything, Arbites is just much safer, and their shotgun is more fun than a lot of Skitarii weapons. The plasma gun doesn't seem that satisfying, but the arc rifle and phosphorous pistol are good.
>>572717857i guess that's neat.
>>572718160wait 6 months for anon to say that you're wrong
whoever said enhanced was the biggest shitter frame wasn't fucking lying
>>572718560why? it makes you feel like a doctor
>>572717198>Tried the noosyskull. Holy shit this thing kills almost everything and has infinite ammo what the fuck. Would not be surprised if they nerfed it.I'm very fond of noosphere alongside voltaic emitter. Personally I don't give a fuck about the level 3 discharges. I just care about the defensive utility of stunning a dense melee threat nearby, or disabling ranged opponents with the level 2 charge. Noosphere grants me a trivial way to ensure that I'm not at 3 stacks when I discharge voltaic emitter. So instead of starting from square 1 to replenish all of my voltaic charges, I instead start at something like ~70-80% of a charge. So the time needed to prepare myself for my next level 1 or 2 discharge is pretty drastically reduced.
>>572718160Skittle is not as braindead durable as arby or as glass cannon as cum
>decide to go on my hive scum to have some change of pace after finishing skit penance grind>all 5 of my builds including my H40 build i perfected via alot of successful H40 runs wipedFUCKING NIGGER SWEEDS REEEEEEEEEE atleast tell me they did some big changes to warrant this :) it took me 20~h to get that havoc build just right
>Rager with no audio cue OHKOs me from behind>No axe revving>No roar>NothingThe audio design of this game is genuinely barely functional dogshit.
is there any way to do this fast or is it just a long term onei dont even care about the cosmetic, not a fan of the all metal dog faces
Skitarii is for the thinking man. A deeper class for deeper minds. Complex builds that require careful thought, planning, and execution. *spams arc rifle into literally everything for 25 minutes lmao*
>>572719163>The audio design of this game is genuinely barely functional dogshit.No the audio design is actually really fucking good.It's the sound engine being tortured by retarded devs that think spamming more enemies = difficulty and thus rape its ability to even play the sound. All without upgrading the sound engine of course :)
>>572719238Just play high enough difficulties to where monsters frequently spawn, you should get 3~4 per mission minimum. Daemonhosts also count so go and pick a fight with those (maybe don't, arbitrator is notoriously bad at dealing with them).
>>572719238On the board, look for Auric Maelstrom I-II (extra monstrosities). And every time you see it, bring the exploding dog. Three or four missions and you're done.
what's the purpose of the braced autogun?
>>572712743Don't pick male Fatalist, because it's the best one and reserved for me.
>>572720106Using ammo to horde clear in malice because you haven't learned the melee yet.
>>572720106it's a relic from 2022, designed for an earlier version of darktide.Works fine in auric like most things do when you slap damage blessings on it. For a very funny meme, try it on skitarii with aim bot.
>>572719238Grind snoretis trials, there's a buff you can get that makes your dog zap bosss for free with a 10s cooldown, and there's usually a lot of bosses in the 2nd half of the waves.
>>572720106drawing ranged aggro with stripped down and then shoving your barrel into their mouth just use vraks infantry autogun
>>572720106High suppression, meaning gunners and shooters stop firing to shit themselves if you fire a burst near them. Definitely not as efficient as simply popping them of course, but you can also magdump rager/mauler waves I suppose.
>>572720106Suppression ( and killing ragers if your melee isn't up to it)
>>572719238Check maelstroms for elite monstrosities and/or enhanced blitz modifiers, otherwise mortis trials is the premier "use blitzes" penance mode.
>>572719238NoI'm suffering through it too
>>572719520>>572719828>>572720516>>572721667noted thanks
everytime a mission goes smoothly someone gets the brilliant idea to rush ahead too fast and get downed.
>>572720106A light machine gun with lots of ammo and high base damage but abysmal critical and weakspot modifiers so it doesn't mesh well with current meta
>>572722235That's me and it's because I can handle it I can't and I want by the numbers simple mission over with quickly I'm about to turn this into a catastrophe
>>572722235what if i rush ahead and liveseparating packs gives me crazy aura as well
Man, I wish the heavy variants of ranged weapons were more worth using for most of the guns (barring a few exceptions) The heavier lasguns. Infantry, pistol and recon all feel so dogshit compared to their lighter and more rapid fire counterparts, most of them being more ammo efficient as well on top of being higher dps. Anytime I think to myself "maybe the harder hitting mark would be really good for a critmaxxed finesse build," and testing it out in practice and it just falls short of damage.
>>572716624The ability to un-net or revive people at range is kinda gamechanging to be honest. There's so many times when someone gets netted or downed right before a drop down after everyone else has moved on. It was kind of the same deal with Warrior Priest in ratclick.
Far far west, whatever happend there?
I'm so tired of getting a trapper every 20 seconds because my team refuses to move forward
>>572724418The thing with warrior priest is that he spent a renewable resource while skit needs to burn a finite one. I also despise the shitty conosleniggerized context sensitive activation of medicae/flamer skulls if you dare to take both. It should have fucking been leftclick for medicae rightclick for flamer. It's that easy and gamepads even have enough fucking buttons for that.
>>572724436Tale as old as timeGame releases too early, burns through its core audience before its even finished, and is too generic to capture a niche market.
>>572717198>>572717857Phosphor pistol also has Infernus. Not just the regular Infernus either, but a buffed version that applies 5 stacks per crit shot and caps out at 15(as opposed to the lasgun version that applies 4 per shot and caps at 12). Now suppose you also put Man-stopper on it. You'll be able to apply tons of burn stacks on a lot of enemies at once. The gun also has a built-in 21% crit bonus, so is it really a wonder that people think it's powerful?
>>572697848I run Superiority and Chained Deathblow on mine. Resurgence's ICD turns me off. 3 seconds seems a little too long to be truly useful during the moments you'd really need extra charges, but maybe I'm wrong. I haven't actually tried running that blessing.
God damn cadian chainsaw moveset is so bad, no wonder it got destroyed
>>572719163My favorite is the sound of Crushers compared to Chaos Warriors. Crushers are fucking ninjas in this game while Chaos Warriors sound like the hulking armored giganiggas that they are.
>>572725502>the brief period where crusher audio wasn't broken and you got to hear their calloutsit was a golden hour.
>>572725701Are you sure this wasn't a shared hallucination?
>>572707686>>572711780>>572711820Kek>>572713829Why is the blood blue
Crushers are supposed to have sounds and callouts???
>>572725701They have voice lines?
>>572725994They're supposed to be completely silent, footsteps and all
>>572725117>while skit needs to burn a finite onemore than worth it
>>572722235Imagine if green circles were in
>>572725182>The gun also has a built-in 21% crit bonuswhere does it say this?
>>572725762It was real I tell you! REAL!>>572725994Yephttps://youtu.be/qewqs10yJ5w?t=169
>>572725994>>572726051Yes. It's because originally they were actually supposed to be the darktide version of a chaos warrior and were somewhat sparse in the mission instead of you fighting over 50 per mission on a calm day.
>>572726332>have voice lines for dealing no damage to themwtf hearing that in game would be extremely useful
>>572726214The critical bonus stat
How do I know im ready for Havocs? I have played a lot, but ive shyed away from it cause I hate having to do outside research to play games. At what Rank can you not substitute skill and experience for optimized builds?
>>572726332>>572726470I have never heard any of this what the fuckIt can't even be the music, I play with music off often recently because I got bored of the soundtrack and use my own but sometimes I forget for a game or two.
>>572726639You've already got the wrong read on it. Team composition matters a fuckton more than just using meme meta builds.
>>572726639>How do I know im ready for Havocs?When you can beat auric consistently, researched havoc, maxed your gear and character, researched havoc builds and studied recent havoc gameplay videos.
>>572726639>How do I know im readyWhen you can get through Aurics without eating a ton of damage and regularly going 0 disables, 0 downs, 0 deaths. If you're not at that point yet, you'll probably get stuck in the 20s >At what Rank30+ is where build and team comp really matters since it's where EFL2 and the ammo penalty kick in, which are a couple of the main things that affect build viability (although enemy mass is another significant factor)
>>572726214right hereinspect the weaponit's not even a hidden stat, like the laspistol's 15% crit chance
>>572726639Once aurics start becoming easy or at least not the scariest most stressful situation ever.get all your shit to max level. You don't need the 21/17/3 curios but at least get 20/16/2.Also don't apply to a havoc 20 as your first mission, especially with bad gear.also >>572726874 is correct. Havoc isn't *just* meta builds (although I'd say they are pretty reliant on not using the weakest part of your class) but havoc is mostly about building a perfect team.>>572726870No it's just darktide's engine being fucking actual slop and them losing the original idea for the game after the beta.Also the golden hour was real I was there, it was amazing actually hearing crushers and ragers being loud as fuck like they're supposed to be.
>>572696535Every time I think about making the switch to PC I see something like and get immediately discouraged. I’m not tech savvy enough to want or be able to constantly trouble shoot like this…
Are there a single female voice that isn't inferior to male one?
>>572727219I find the fem psykers to be much more tolerable than the male psykers but I do prefer the french big nigger psyker to the french female psyker but otherwise, no.Most of them have the male be better or them being on par with one another.
>>572726070I feel like maybe skit should get an extra blitz charge or two if they invest into both medicae and flamer skull.
>>572726639If you can handle hi-intensity damnation you can handle upto havoc 20-25 easily enough. Above that teamwork, builds for convenience, and everyone knowing where to stand and when to move starts mattering, plus the increasing restrictions on ammo pickups.Also you have to know how to survive while meleeing a monster to death, because there will be times where you are on your own while the team deals with the giant pile of chaos that may include multiple other monsters.
>>572727219Female fanatic Zealot is the pinnacle of Darktide voices
>>572727131you'll never become "tech savvy" (aka google enthusiast) if you don't start
>>572727219>>572727402I like fanatic zealot, loose cannon vet, and reverent skit.
>>572726051Crush, cruush.
>>572727219Female Arbites Fatalist and Authoritarian are both superior to the male ones.
>>572727131These days just ask chatgpt.
>>572727219All psykers and >>572727516>>572727629Wrong
>>572727646
>>572727219Male and female Mauls are sidegrades.
>>572725182>as opposed to the lasgun version that applies 4 per shot and caps at 12Lasgun infernus cap out at 16 though?
>>572726991Aaaah ok. But what if a gun does not have a Critical Bonus stat?
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>>572728302some of them have hidden bonuses or penalties For example,Lasgun infantry/helbore, +5%Laspistol, +15%Autoguns, from shredder pistol to heavy stubbers, have -2%Bolter gets +5% when ADS
>>572728762>Autoguns, from shredder pistol to heavy stubbers, have -2%
Something about this tiny thin handle compared to the absolute behemoth of a cylinder amuses me greatly.
>>572728938I'm so torn on the Phosphor. On one hand, it's a revolver that shuts fucking big rounds, which is pretty cool. On the other, it reminds me of the fucking nerf revolver.
>>572728762thanks anon
>>572703520gun control won’t help them when they have far bigger contributors to that level of violence present
>>572729085Love the gun, hate the sights.It's the only reason I even bother using the galvanic rifle from time to time.
Why tf did they make the galvanic hot dog shit and then add a revolver fucking railgun that fucks and basically does what the galvanic should do
>>572727219>all the people saying psykerIf you're not playing Psyker to be a German mad scientist, with the Mishima hairline, what are you even doing?
>>572727219The edgy personalities (Cutthroat, Agitator, Loner, Bully, Maul, Hunter) have the best male voices, except Anarchist, but the male Scum voices aren't that good in general. Fem bounty hunter sounds too cute for some reason.
>>572703520>muh gun controlTired of these gun death charts anyway desu. Most of it's typically gangsters shooting other gangsters, suicides, and police shootings so as to inflate the value for max fear inducement. Not to mention the portion of that number taken up by citizens defending themselves/others. The notion of taking away the one tool that puts everybody on an equal playing field regardless of height, mass, age, health, experience, etc. and lets your sister/mother/wife or your aging and ailing parents defend themselves is honestly one of the more offensive parts of modern political discourse, if for nothing more than its stupidity and naivete.
>>572727629>playing as female maul and unironically consider gender change because male voice would be better
>>572728849Negative crit chance just means if your character has 5% crit chance normally, equipping a weapon with -2% crit chance, means your over all crit chance is 3%.Also here's some more cursed knowledge.Ogryn has the lowest crit chance in the game, at 2.5%, which isn't that surprising. Ogryns are characterized as mostly being "smash enemy hard until they die" type of characters, not super finesse.But then you realize that many if not most ogryn weapons have negative crit chance values tied to them.For example, bully clubs and twin stubbers have -3% crit chance each last I checked. And on top he has the worst crit damage modifiers in the game as well. Even now after the 2025 rework/buffs.
>>572729831>except Anarchist, but the male Scum voices aren't that good in general.Female scum voices are terrible and are worst in the game. It's not even matter of tastes, female scum voices are just terribleMale anarchist is great
>>572729532The sights are kinda funky. Why the fuck are they so tall
>>572729798They probably couldn't figure out a way to make it unique so they just made a generic semi rifle with boring shit blessings and called it a day.
>>572730030I like female maul. She's fun.I originally went with female fatalist but she *constanty* talks like someone pissed into her cereal and she has a stick up her arse. I chose the personality first thinking she'd be the "I've seen too much shit in this line of work, but someone has to do it or all order will be lost."Fem maul sounds harsh but still has *some* levity to them. Also I do like how other arbites poke fun at her for spending time with the ogryns and how she likes them for their simplicity and loyalty.You Just Know. :^)
>>572728762I think the recon las has -2% as well
>>572729798It could definitely use the obvious buff to damage, but it's astounding how much this gun conflicts with its own design from the ground up so often.>Wants to be a precision gun>But also isn't immediately pinpoint on ADS, it has a hidden mechanic that it needs to stabilize before the gun is accurate (nowhere is this reflected in the visuals) And no other precision gun has this problem>has a long draw time, and long ADS time but feels anemic to justify it most times>Feels like it wants you to use it as a primary, but also it has zero fucking ammo at all making it synergize with ammo regen even less.All of the other shit is weird sweden number fuckery, but its the stabilization time that has me so buttmad.
>>572730449>But also isn't immediately pinpoint on ADS, it has a hidden mechanic that it needs to stabilize before the gun is accurateWhat the fuck. I thought my aim was just rusty. So many times I went, "I could've sworn that was bang on." Fucking hell, man
>>572730389It is actually +2%
>>572730563Nope. It shares a ludicrous stable timer similar to the toxin needler, it takes a moment for the spread to go away
>>572730449Worst part to me about the garand is that it has like only 8 shots in the clip and then like 72 in the reserve as a baseline.What's goofier to me is that the retard devs ignored the obvious fucking glowing cylinder thing under the gun. You know the thing that's an obvious fucking magazine and it is PERFECTLY PLACED right under the bolt of the gun so it can cycle ammunition.But they still decided to go with a fucking space garand with a limited 8 shot capacity and then decided to give it a pathetic amount of reserve ammo too.Just what the fuck?
>>572730686That's infuriating. Guess I won't be using it again until that's amended (>implying).>similar to the toxin needlerWait, really? God fucking damn it. I won't doubt myself again in this game. I remember having the same doubts when I was playing Scum a bunch and trying to hit stuff with the needler. FATSHARK
Arbite with or without dog? Is the passive buff worth it?
>>572731293If you're bad at the game, dog will be better.But if you're decent at the game, they are both great options.
>>572731293Both are strong
>>572723430Well at least the heavy braced autogun is superior to the other variants due to having more cleave and replacing collateral stat with stopping power
>>572731293Dog with Go Get 'Em. Because I want the dog but I'm also lazy.
>>572730686>just want a good, accurate semi-auto rifle that works like a DMR>at every fucking oppurtunity the swedes somehow fuck the entire concept up.>vigilants have dogshit damage and shitty fucking iron sights.>infantry lasguns all have ungodly fucking recoil jump when you fire for some dumbshit reason, also their base damage and finesse multipliers are fucking retarded, the fucking las PISTOLS have better weakspot and crit modifiers than the fucking rifles and then basically non-existant recoil or spread. WHY?>helbore is clunky as fuck to use due to the charge mechanic which just feels off constantly>only good DMR that exists is the achlys mk2, but it's on ogryn, the fucking melee class, the one class I don't want to be fucking sniping with at all>now we got galvanic rifle which hits nice and hard but has fuck all ammo and then has this retarded ADS shit tied to it for no reasonIt's fucking impressive to me how they just constantly manage to fuck up this fucking gun design at every opportunity.Like it feels intentional at this point, like they make a good gun, but then on purpose add in some retarded bullshit that makes no sense for no other reason but to fuck over anyone who'd want to use these guns.
>>572731293Dog is more fun and makes the class unique
How similar is Space Marine 2 to darktide?
>>572731692>vigilants have dogshit damage and shitty fucking iron sightsThere was a period where the semi-auto vigilant was actually very good for the DMR purpose (outside of Maulers/Crushers, obviously), and the weapon customization mod wasn't yet a bloated pile of shit, so you could throw a sight on it. Good fun. I should check to see if there's a more stripped down version of weapon customization available by now.
>>572731979completely different, SM2 is closer to a fucking batman arkham game
>>572731979Completely un-similar. Basically opposites. The only thing they have in common is the 40k setting.
>>572731692Does the galvanic even hit hard? Its taking me like 4 or 5 shots per crusher unless I get a crit and its like 3 or 4 and sometimes its bot even one shotting flamers
>>572727219Not very? I didnt play SM2 for long, but controls felt awful. Reminded me of Killzone 2. Handling and character control felt awful. I remember having difficulty finding a comfy button layout. Nothing quite felt right. Darktide meanwhile is generally very crisp and responsive.
>>572732149Ryken on jewtube has a build that can 2 shot crushers. But it's very memey. I'd only run something like that for the roleplay.
new plasma gun is retardedly strong, just a better rumbler basically. Not sure if people have caught onto this yet, I only play with friends atm
>>572732027>I should check to see if there's a more stripped down version of weapon customization availableEWC had a recent update that split the mod into its base function and a plugin that adds all the bloat shit
>>572731692I will never stop crying about how garbage the flak damage is on infantry lasguns
>>572731979Not that much. Gameplay is vastly different.SM2 is more generic 3rd person hack and slash and includes the parry mechanic and gun strikes and then glory kills to restore your armor.There's some nuance to it but it's not super complex.Darktide's combat is 1st person but at the same time it is much more in-depth.Like Darktide has stagger and cleave mechanics tied to melee which are very important. Also things like dodges and pushes exist.Pushing being very important because it prevents you from being overwhelmed and surrounded in melee and it exists to create space.
>>572732378Shit, meant to reply to >>572731979
>>572732475Oh thank fucking Christ. Cheers, anon
>>572732149>Does the galvanic even hit hard?Galvanic does like 2k damage on a crit weakspot on most armor types. So it is very generous.Obviously it's not good for crushers, but you shouldn't be shooting at those in the first place mostly.
>>572732439Do you play as vet or skit?
>>572732439Totally. If you have more opinions please share them.
>>572732439plasma guns are a new player trap, they arent good
>>572732439>ogryn already powercreptGrim
I think Skibidi SUCKS
>>572733004Ogryn was powercrept out with Arbites and Skitty just pissed on the half-decayed corpse.
>>572732728skit>>572733003if you think being able to just kill 10+ ragers in a circle with one explosion isn't good you're just dogshit. plus it's still a plasma gun outside of that so you get to kill specials well
>>572733032It's mediocre. Fun, but mediocre.
>>572733150>it's still a plasma gun outside of thatThey gimped the leftclick damage to hit basically no weakpoints.
I leik skitty witty!!!
>>572731979Space Marine 2 is more fun and focuses on spectacle.Darktide is more sweaty and focuses on autistic learning of the mechanics.Pick your poison.https://streamable.com/c7qea1
>Space Marine 2 is more fun
>arbussy that's constantly almost deadHow do you even
>>572733553I have 1000+ hours in both and Space Marine 2 is more fun. Darktide just feels like a fucking job at times, and if it wasn't for mods to remove the spamming of buttons, I'd have honestly given it up years ago.
>>572733445Controversial opinion:QTEs are not funI know, it's pretty wild.
>>572733834Darktide is rife with QTEs, the only difference is presentation.
>>572725815chinese sensibilities
>>572733257still enough for specials and i don't know why you would use the uncharged otherwise, just full charge blast to the head, oneshots crushers and does a big aoe explosion
>>572733382me too don beehote
>>572733565For the authentic experience of how to achieve this, unbind dodge, unbind crouch, don't bring a shield. Ideally mute your audio.
>>572733952Not nearly as rife as SM2 where the combat is fully reliant on them.
I've never really used the Plasma Rifle, let alone on Skitarii how do I use this thing and what blessings and efffects should I give it?
>>572734049>don't bring a shieldBut arby's mace is the better shield
>>572734175Let's see how long you survive against shooters when you can't dodge, slide, or shield block. It's what gets a lot of shitters killed.
>>572734265I'll dodge and slide instead
>>572734051Literally every attack in this game that comes with a sound cue or a blatantly over-exaggerated animated windup is a QTE.>Shotgunners>Crushers>Snipers>Gunners>Ranged shitters>Trappers>Pox Houndsetc.
>>572734463That's not what qte means lol.
>>572734463Nice equivocation, idiot.I'm not getting locked into an invulnerable animation when I dodge.
>>572734463
Dodging attacks in dark souls? All qtes.
There's a thread on /v/ shitting on Darktide. I'm looking for a new coop game to play, do i trust /v/ or this general?
>>572734584>>572734639>>572734719It's the same shit.>Sniper has a giant laser and makes a cocking sound before firing>Tyranid has a giant laser and makes a whirring up sound but also there's a flashing red circleIf you think the bottom one is a QTE but the top isn't, you're the same kind of retard who thinks laws are just because they're laws.
>>572734265I lose most of my health hit the castigator button and by that point I'm near enough I can start bonking them
>three skitarii immediately eat shit in the very first 30 feet of consignment yard where enemies spawn and leave>every single crusher and rager on the map want my ass and there's nothing to distract them>put them through the seven circles of stun hell with the maul and suppression shield special-break the line-remote detonation combo for a couple minutes>actually competent psyker and zealot show up to save the day>mission goes flawlessly after thatbeing an invincible foundation for the team is funthanks zealot and psyker for not evaporating the moment something looked at you
>>572734874You're an actual retard.We're talking about the execution mechanics, not fucking dodges.
>>572734639>I'm not getting locked into an invulnerable animation when I dodge.Dodging literally makes you invincible if you have bars though?
>>572734774We shit on Darktide here too. It's a great game but has lots of valid criticisms leveled against it because Fatshark is a an insanely frustrating developer much of the time. I recommend the game anyway.
>>572735026Even if that's true, you can still get damaged by fire and shit.And it's not a prolonged animation that you can use to jump from execution to execution, for example.
>>572734960>We're talking about the execution mechanics,Those aren't QTEs, what the fuck are you talking about? What is your definition of a QTE?
Honestly the worst part of sm2 is the press x to awesome momentum killing shit.
>>572735193https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzkCmidjeHc
>>572735214The worst part is that you can't even avoid it because executions give you armor back and regular kills don't.
>>572734774/v/irgins are genuinely awful at most vidya so they were probably filtered by this game since you need to press more than one key at a time to be decent at it
>>572733139Ogryn will be saved when we get heavy bolters + handed axes and hammers in few months.Trust the plan.
>>572734960NTA but Executions aren't really QTE's. You just press E on a wounded enemy and it does it for you, it's basically picking up health packs. If there were additional inputs you needed to make while doing it then yeah sure, but it's not even a QTE, it's less than a QTE.Disqualifying attacks with indicators (which aren't even half the attacks in the game, honestly at this point the fucking indicators are basically useless outside of the really long range lunge attacks Nidders do) the only QTE's outside of campaign I can think of is smashing keys to get out of grabs.
>>572735354Executions aren't a QTE because to be a QTE you need to actually be quick. It's kinda in the name. Enemies sit there for 10 seconds in a downed state, unless it's Absolute and then it gets reduced to 5.There are perks in Darktide that have these durations.
>>572734774Dunning Krugroids are quick to hate Darktide because the game is actually really fucking hard and they get filtered by the difficulty.Most that shit on the game do it for the wrong reasons. It's got retarded as fuck devs, questionable balancing, they keep releasing content nobody gives a fuck about wasting dev time, etc. etc.But the game is lots of fun and the best actively updated game in its genre. L4D2 is a fucking masterpiece and nothing beats it, but everyone has played it to death by now, and every online lobby is full of turd-worlders.
>>572733382Cute>> 572658820If it does it was definitely added in after with an update or something, I distinctly remember there being none at launch
>>572735521>>572735554The absolute mental gymnastics.
>>572732091at least the Arkham games actually had satisfying combat that is still riffed off of to this day
>>572734774The people criticizing it have 500 or more hours in it and will probably put another 500 into it before end of service if that means anything
>>572735886Anon, what does the Q in QTE stand for?
>>572734774/v/ these days is obsessed with culture wars and doesn't really talk about games. Why would you listen to them.
>>572735984Nigger. By your definition the QTEs in movie games aren't QTEs anymore just because there's no time limit.
>>572736098Well yeah, if there's no time limit then those aren't QTEs, you're just playing Simon Says at that point.
>>572736180Ok, then SM2 is practically a simon says game.Better?
>reacting to something with an input is a QTE/v/tard levels of retardation
>>572736246What part of it is Simon Says? You're going to have to be specific here. Are we referring to executions still? Or are we talking about attacks you have to parry or dodge?
>>572736404Executions still.
>>572730686what mod do I gotta install to be able to avoid iron sights? I fucking hate iron sights.
>>572736468Well yeah, I guess. It's more like a prompt that isn't expecting any real speed out of you.
Man I remember the slop shop having some bad cosmetics but everything in there is so fucking shit it's laughable. The free stuff is leagues better than this. Also does it still reset every two weeks because i haven't played in forever and that's an insane amount of shitty cosmetics that have come and gone if they kept it on the two week rotation.
I AM A MAN THAT'S MADE OF MEATAND YOU'RE ON THE INTERNET LOOKING AT FEET
>>572727741AISloppa may be overhyped, but it's good enough to tell a retard how to clean out the decade of dust that's choking the life out of his overheating GPU.
>>572736387It's like those retards who claim any game with timing is a soulslike
>>572736516Crosshair remap View model tweaker.select current gun in the model tweaker options and move the y axis down just a bit, don't go too extreme because some people say it's prone to crashing if you do. I think using the global option is also buggy, you're better off just doing it to individual guns/marks.
>>572733150>plus it's still a plasma gun outside of that so you get to kill specials wellThe reason that the OG plasma gun was good at killing specials was because it would bore through infinite amounts of flesh to kill the special way in the back. The new plasma gun doesn't do that.
>>572734951>three skitarii immediately eat shit in the very first 30 feet of consignment yard where enemies spawn and leaveI love when they leap over the railing without checking to see what's actually down the stairs first.
>>572736075>/v/ these days is obsessed with culture warsIn fairness, so is a large amount of the industry
I've been playing darktide and I kinda don't feel like I'm doing anything. I'm holding shift until I'm out of stamina, then holding M2 then holding M1, then holding r. I'm running through the campaign right now so it's probably retard level but it gets a bit more engaging right?
>>572738854What difficulty?
>>572733150if only nu plasma could do it
most efficient way to farm plasteel and diamantine? Or is it all the same?
>>572734774the game gets better the higher the difficultyuse that to help gauge your interest
>lobby with 3 skittles + 1 vet>all skits with phosphor, vet with revolvergiga kino round
>>572738985There's difficulty?
>>572739134oh yesDifficulty 1 (uprising) is the "i'm learning the basic controls" difficulty.
>>572739052markers aio mod and auric quickplay spam
>>572739247Found it, thanks anon
>>572734874>>Sniper has a giant laser and makes a cocking sound before firingthis is not a qte you massive dunning kruger retard.qtes are derided because you have no player agency in dealing with the situation you're presented with. snipers in dtide are fully emergent gameplay with several solutions.>move behind cover>slide towards or to the sides>dodge to the sides>kill the sniper before it fires>suppress or stagger the sniper in some way>put up a psyker wall>block with a shield weaponand on top of that there are preventative measures to minimize the risk of being shot like moving the fight away from the obvious sniper sightlines when you see their laser sights. I don't think you could have picked a worse example if you tried
>>572733445>consolebabFigures.>>572734463>this fucking postHoly fucking shit lmao
is the redpill to just have all three resistances on your curios?
/v/ggers are so mindbroken that they'll call anything a QTE nowadays. Do us all a favour and stop turning on your fucking PC because pressing the power button is a fucking QTE you faggot.
>>572738854You can look up high havoc footage on jewtube.The non-commentary type.That's where it's all headed.
>>572740814The final redpill is revive speed x 3 for clutching.Oh, and at least 2x gunner resist, I guess.
>>572741163Does revive speed affect the funny skit servo skull?
>>572741249I think so? But don't quote me on that.
>>572741249>>572741329And I say that because I once had to pick up two guys from a revive idol, sending the skull at the other guy at the same time as I started picking up the other.Both got up at the same time.So, I think it does affect the skull.
>>572739247I am amazed we even used to have a difficulty below that.
>aims for someone else>kills you
>>572733445SM2 is a lot less fun for me. It's far too reactive, and the misleading prompts are annoying.
>>572741912
>>572740614>>>Sniper has a giant laser and makes a cocking sound before firing>this is not a qte you massive dunning kruger retard.So SM2 doesn't have QTEs then. Because any enemy who throws out a flashing circle can be staggered by heavy gunfire, explosions, ground pounds, heavy melee attacks, or just dodged.
>>572742086Just now realizing the whole team are "women". Deserved.
>>572742086I've had a poxburster jump and explode the entire team right as the cutscene ended when entering the church in Dark Communion.
>>572742471Yeah, it's that spot in particular, happens all the time.
>>572740705>consolebabNope, I just prefer controller on PC and always have.And I don't think you understand why this comparison is being made in a facetious way. The only difference between Darktide and Space Marine 2 in regards to how you interact with enemy attacks is that in SM2, sometimes there's a circle.If Darktide suddenly added a big red circle on a Crusher's overhead, would it become a QTE? Because that's it, that's the only difference between the two, SM2 gives you a bit more visual clarity.
>>572742576You have multiple options at your disposal to respond to the crusher overhead, dumbass.
>>572738507possibly the only reason they survived the jump over the railing is because I instantly staggered to death the two crushers and ten ragers that were waiting at the bottombut then they split up right after and I didn't even get to see how two of three of them died because I was trying to save one of them that attempted to slide dodge a trapper and got netted in a cloud of tox gas while a tox flamer roasted him
>>572742576>Nope, I just prefer eating hot shit straight from the source and always have.
>>572741003Took my own advice and checked out the first results of a search, and it's all commentated and modded to hell with cluttered ass huds.Modgroids are embarrassing and disgusting.
>>572742780Did you even read what I typed? Or did you just see "QTE" and "Crusher overhead" and make up something about it being impossible to respond to or something?
>>572738241right, so just shoot them when you see themi'm not saying it's as op as the old one for specialkilling but it's literally something like a sniper rifle with a built in better rumbler, high ammo pool as well and skitarii never has to reload the thing. only an actual retard would believe this isn't one of the best weapons in the game i think.
>>572742923No, I'm saying that's the quintessential difference between a QTE and actual game play.
>space marine has cool enemies but shit gameplay>darktide has shit enemies(figuratively and literally) but cool gameplayCan't get everything you want I guess.
>>572743010What difference? Enemies have multiple responses in SM2.>Enemy throws out red circle being unblockable>Throw grenade at him>Dodge him>Hit him with a heavy melee attack>Hit him with charged plasma or a melta blast>Hit him with a jump pack ground pound>Go invisible>Use a Sanctified Reliquary So again, how are these QTEs under your own rules when there are multiple responses to the unblockable red circle?
what is a qte
>>572743332At this point according to the average Darktide player it just means a UI prompt.Sniper lining up a shot on you is totally different because the laser and sound aren't UI based.
>>572743251>enemy is ready to execute>press button>awesome happens
>>572743332me
Reddit spacing.
>>572743471That's not a QTE. Again, what is demanding you make an input quick here? The enemy visibly goes into a downed state and sits there for 5-10 seconds depending on difficulty. At best I'd call this a health kit with a use-by-date.
>>572743596is a meme. People were spacing posts like that before 4chan and reddit existed
>>572743689It doesn't matter if you prefer "Simon Says Prompt".It doesn't argue in favor for SM2's gameplay at all.
>>572743689>fight enemy >kill enemy>have to do a cinematic QTE or else he revives 10 seconds later and you have to kill him again
>>572743954What's stopping you from shooting him in the head exactly for a quick kill?
>>572743954>
>>572743901And what sings the praise for Darktide's endgame gameplay? Spamming slides into 180 pushes/cleaves on loop over and over while spamming sidestep on the endless gunners and snipers? It says a lot when one of the most downloaded mods for DT is a fucking scipt for specific weapon combos.
>>572743332quick time event
>>572742240I don't give a shit about space marine 2. I've never played it. just letting you know your definition of qte is completely wrong and no one should trust anything you say
>>572744364>I don't understand what's being talked about and why these intentionally inflammatory comparisons are being made in order to try and get people to think about what they're sayingThanks for confirming.
slam dunk
>>572744313>It says a lot when one of the most downloaded mods for DT is a fucking scipt for specific weapon combos.All it tells me is that most people are slowboys who would feel right at home with SM2.I've never used a mod nor are they necessary for anyone.
>>572744068>why don't you stop and shoot this guy while you're surrounded by enemies, and on higher difficulties, it's going to take multiple headshots to kill the glowing red enemy with most of the game's gunsIt's generally a bad idea to do that, anon, and if you're the guy who was saying he had 1000 hours in SM2, you should know exactly why your question is bullshit. The game very, very heavily incentivizes the glory kill spam, both through direct and indirect means. It's ridiculous to act like players have much of a choice in whether or not they interact with the mechanic under most circumstances.>>572744247>muh Sniper class webm as though this is supposed to be relevant to all classes under all conditionsNice blatantly disingenuous post, anon. Some of us have actually played SM2, you know
>>572743516look at her go!
>they need a taunt shieldgryn to carry them through havoc 40Application denied.
>Try high noon build with quickdraw revolver + autoaim ult>0 armor damage>Team also has 0 armor damage>Get overwhelmed by carapace niggersGave up after three rounds, at least it looks cool
>>572744467I understand perfectly well you're pretending to be retarded or are genuinely being retarded to fish for responses so you can spend your precious time defending a game online.
you prolly don't remember me but I was the guy having bank problems the day before the dlc came outnow with a new card I was able to purchase it flawlesslyso what am I in for bros? the best class of all time?
Did some anon really say this took long? I played a few hours of random pubs and got it pretty fast, just ping spam all you can desu
>>572744840The auto aim active ability no worky properly.Otherwise it's fine.
>>572744840if you bought hive scum then yes
>>572744840Its a solid class aesthetically and mechanically.
>>572744840A weird skill tree where every node gives you +15%, dogshit blitzes, viable builds that skip all abilities or cooldown reduction just to invoke the noosy, chudclaw kino, becoming a transphobic melee rape blender with 70% crit rate stunlocking everything, passive reloads, electrocuting entire battlefields
>>572719238>>572744927Oh my bad its the other onekek
>>572744649>Excuses for why you simply can't shoot them in the headYou're just shit. Get 50 Absolutes completed black caped on.
>>572744840Pretty fun class with a few different build types, all of which are fun. Autoaim build is the worst of the lot, but if you run it with the Arc Rifle it's absurdly broken.
sweaty scum tummy sexooo!!
>>572744649
>>572745079>becoming a transphobic melee rape blender with 70% crit rate stunlocking everything>not becoming a transphobic strengthmaxxer with 55% - 67.5% strength bonus, letting you rape everything without giving a shit about crit RNG (but still having one crit blessing for that free CC from the electric talent)
>>572744832>People make facetious claim that SM2 is just a QTEfest>Explain that beyond the markers, the level of response is no fundamentally different to Darktide>Do this by explaining how the two compare, and that SM2 is QTEs, so is Darktide, because the only literal difference between the two is the UI indicators>Fags like you interject because you don't even know what's going on yet feel the need to speakYou can make the argument that Darktide is deeper, but that's not what's being discussed.
>>572745015>squishiest class in the game>still gets out damaged by a psyker holding m1
Remind me again how this general isn't overly hostile to other games? Because this all started after one anon asked if he should play SM2 or DT and like three anons one after the other said to play DT because SM2 is casual shit.
>>572745168It's fantastic with the OG plasma gun too. No idea about the exploding one, I need to fuck with that still
>>572745382Technically the ideal DPS setup is somewhere in the middle. But you can squeeze out similar damage by taking zero capacitance or ability points and just grabbing a couple more +15%s actually, without relying on redline or the other 10s on stack gain.
>>572745143You cheated it.
>me, waiting for zealot buff
>>572745678Cope. If I cheated it in I wouldn't be grinding it on every other class.
>>572745550>infinite dodges>infinite stagger>infinite stamina>psyker pisses and shits himself because no one kills that one poxwalker behind him
>>572745778Since you got it after it was nerfed you cheated by default anyways.
>>572745748>+1 FotF charge, slightly shorter cooldown>Shorter stealth cooldownThose are the only buffs zealot deserves, if you touch anything else you risk making chorus even more broken.
Gotta ask /coopg/ this and I apologize if it's been asked and discussed beforeIf Hive Scum was sorta outta left-field for a class and we've gotten Skitarii now what do yall think we'll get next? Because a lot of people both in my friends group and online always said that, prior to their releases, classes like Skitarii and Arbs were to powerful of a job/class compared to the Rejects we played as yet here we are and we can play as both of them.
>>572745596The question was how similar the two games are. >>572731979Most people noted that they are not very similar.
>>572745913If I can do 50, I can do 100. I fail to see where this coping is leading.
>>572745848wtf judy is cadia?
>>572745848unprotected missionary sex with judy
>>572746015I hope it's an eldar but any xeno will do
>>572746015yeah they were talking out of their asswhat could be on the tableelite versions of the base classes to scratch desired niches>people want a bullgryn, heavily armored with shielded guns and shit>people want a commissar/stormtrooper type dude who brings all the big guns like the hotshotlasgun or has a saltzpyre esque melta/plasma/hotshot pistol type ability>people want some sisters or some crap>psyker could get some annoyingly op buffs or something else for the community to have a meltdown overOtherwise idk, a fuckin xenos auxiliary to coincide with the dark heresy release would be niceor maybe a cosmetic wave
>>572746125>>572745848>>572746291Many are saying this
>>572746015Spyrer Suit noble.
>>572746015Mister of Battle.
>>572745974charge/stealth buffing a SINGLE attack is kinda silly
>>572745596i cannot speak for everyone but from what I can see the general is fine with other games and hostile to overly ardent defenders of said games
>>572745662>somewhere in the middleI have tried that. I ran double crit blessings with Redline and a lot of the electrocution stuff up top, and I did it that way for a while, but I dislike it. You're still at RNG's mercy, not like the RNG would be too bad with Shred+Riposte, but it's still present. 50% crit isn't really enough for me to justify spending talents on the stacking brittleness or the bonus damage to electrocuted targets since both of those require at least 1 hit of setup to apply electrocution in the first place, and not every first hit with them is a guaranteed crit. If the crit multipliers were higher, I'd be on board building for more crit, but for only several hundred extra damage on crit, I just want the consistency of flat damage. >But you can squeeze out similar damage by taking zero capacitance or ability points Can you? The way I have my Redline build set up, it only misses Retribution Conduit and Hybrid Combat Covenant (and the really shitty version of Duelist, but that node kinda sucks anyway). You'd have to abuse noosphere with Galvanic Marking Array to get close, I imagine (which is fair, at least until they nerf it, though for my own purposes, I'm not fond of marking shit for the skull/dog nor am I fond of abusing stuff like that). Oh, and there's the 20% flat damage from Flensing; I almost forgot. I suppose with all that I could see it getting close, but strength stacks multiplicatively with regular damage bonuses, so I'm curious how it'd actually math out. I kinda wanna give it a try now that you mention it.
>>572741984Agreed>>572742245Kek
>>572746701Charge gives a lasting 20% attack speed buff
>>572746717Hypocritical attitude to have considering how many cocksuckers Darktide has in here who defend everything.
>>572745596I mean they aren't wrong.
>>572746291>>572746589>>572745848Fuck off, tourist.
>>572746972They are. I've got friends who play Darktide far more religiously than me who do Aurics just fine who can't last at all in SM2's Absolute let alone Hard Strats. The games require entirely different mindsets.
>>572745596The responses I got were pretty informative. It sounds like I'd enjoy Space Marine as much as I currently enjoy Darktide.
>>572746967What do you mean? We talk shit about Fatshark every single thread multiple times for the numerous fuck-ups present in the game, many of which have been present since the game came out. I think most of us are extremely critical of Darktide.
>>572747173Yes. SM2 is balanced in a casual way, Darktide is balanced in a hardcore way.
>>572745596>"You should play X because Y is shit">"X can be construed as shit because thing is in it">"Y niggers are hostile to all other games"I don't even have to read the thread, this is how it goes every single time, and your very question is always enragement engagement.
>>572747131Christ you post here as well as in /hd2/? Imagine being this cringe in two generals.
>>572747173They're correct in stating that the games are different and play very differently.
>>572743516clever post!>>572744840it’s fine for what it is, wish they did more with it but it’s not terrible, much better than give scum at least >>572746015> classes like Skitarii and Arbs were to powerful of a job/class compared to the Rejects we played asthat was never true. what skitarii/arbies did was do away with the downtrodden reject status thing, meaning the door is now open for stuff other than ‘crackhead with a knife’, which was always going to happen in hindsight
>>572746015>If Hive Scum was sorta outta left-field for a class and we've gotten Skitarii now what do yall think we'll get next?Squat digger
>>572746015an old space marine
>can do aurics just fine as arbi>cant do damnation on veteran without going down constantlyi dont get it
>>572746717> the general is fine with other games and hostile to overly ardent defenders of said gamesPretty much. It’s more like the players of those other games can’t handle criticism of their preferred game. Darktide gets constant shit here too. That just how the general is.
>>572747865Arbitrator has a lot of personal survivability. Veteran doesn't.
>>572747865Arby holds your hand and allows for a lot more mistakes. You're probably being more aggressive than you should, positioning poorly, not utilizing your weapon's moveset properly, or some combination of those.
>>572747865Veteran. Soft.
>>572747865Despite what everybody will tell you, Veteran is genuinely the hardest class in this game because he has almost zero outs or "cheats" to keep him alive beyond smoke spam.Hives Cum gets to spam dodges and turn their slides into super versions that are better than everybody elses.
>>572747865Vet generates toughness through kills and hitting enemiesArbi generates toughness by clicking literally any button
>>572748171>bad thing happened>yell CADIA at 300 decibels>no it didn'tYou're being disingenuous if you're saying that scum is somehow safer than vet.
>>572746015>classes like Skitarii and Arbs were to powerful of a job/class compared to the Rejects we played asThey're really not. It's true that the rejects are just "normal human" but all of the classes bar Skitarii have just been 40k TTRPG classes. Skitarii probably would have been just a techpriest but someone probably decided skits would be a cooler option; maybe since SM2 just got a techmarine with its own omnissian axe they thought they'd mix it up. Even a sororitas isn't the giant leap in power people seem to think it is.
>>572748280>Uh this class ability on a cooldown is as good as retard infinite dodge spam and spruced up slides
>>572748426It is better, my dear damnation warrior. Give it another 500 hours and you may learn to dodge and slide on classes that aren't scum.
>>572747580Never everBut by God would it be based
>>572748542I never said you couldn't dodge or slide on other classes. I said Hives Cum gets better dodges and slides. Which is infinitely more available and usable as a survival tool than a literal class ability on a cooldown. This is like saying Veteran is tankier than Arby because of Voice of Command, it's just fucking stupid.
>>572746015Power level wise we started with an ogryn, which is a high combat bar to start with. My personal bet is chirurgen. Possibly a Sister Hospitaler version. Minor synergy with Dark Heresy, pre-existing models, codex history with the Witch Hunters/Inquisition, and narratively fits in with Darktide. Sisters are a brand faction, which probably gets more weight after the success of skitarii.Eldar are also a contender. Strong faction identity for sales. Three upcoming 40k games with Eldar present for synergy. Recently released Eldar models from GW. Laziest possibility, Servitor. Pairs with skitarii. Pre-existing servitor cosmetics to slap on the player.
>>572747865because arbi is way tankier than veteranin terms of tankiness I think it's something like thisChinese food chain dot png
>>572748836>Power level wise we started with an ogryn, which is a high combat bar to start with.Does Psyker have the magical ability to make everybody forget he exists?
Reinstalled last night after more than a year. Should I get Arbites or Hive Scum while they are on sale? Which do you think is more fun?
>>572748965I do not understand this image in the slightest.
>>572745662>>572746754Alright, I'm inclined to agree with you, actually. The weapons do perform better at their peak with these talents and Superiority + Riposte at max stacks than any of my previous approaches did at their own peaks. 2-hitting Crushers is pretty gnarly. I know you described skipping ability and capacitance nodes, but there wasn't much left for me to grab besides Galv+Noosphere, which I have no intention of playing.
>>572749001I can't hear you over the psyker exploding.
>>572745848I want to fuck that rabbit
>>572749183Yeah that's close enough to what I am using, you have all the important stuff.
>>572749151I now realized I forgot psyker, fuckArbi and Ogryn are the tankiest of all classesVet and Zealot are less tanky but not as much as Psyker and Hive Scum. Skitarii can be built to be tankier than Vet and Zealot but also more fragile than them.Psyker is Psyker.Hive Scum is fragile but is capable of being a dodge god, which effectively makes him tanky.
>>572749406Giving up claw just hurts my soul
>>572748965is the psyker one of the UN rapists or was he eaten by the ogryn
>>572749127arbites is strong but boring, hscum is strong but very difficult to play to it's full potential
>>572749493You too will someday embrace the noosy.
>>572727402Is that the granny voice?
>>572749536psyker is hanging off the ledge of the image after being thrown by a mutant
>>572749576Nah, I really don't like ordering pets around. I've been this way since I tried swapping to Alliance as a NElf Hunter when TBC first launched. Shit's not gonna change>>572749648No, it's the Scottish murderhobo
>>572749648Yes.
where do you stand in comms plex 154 2f?I just stand in the little cuckshed but I feel like it's a noob trap, get flooded by gunners really hard if youy don't stand outside
>>572749738You're just using a different keybind to fire your shoulder-mounted laser cannon, Idk why you have to obsess over what the game calls it.
>>572749812The difference is in frequency
>>572749648>>572749749No wait yeah, that would've been the agitator.
>>572748836What's Dark Heresy? Are they re-releasing older sets again or something?
build was cringemercy sanction
HELP MEI'm a seething damnation SHITTER and I'm having a hard time so I'm trying out different vet weapons, what is the bolter for?It seems to be worse than my autogun in every way (both with no blessings tho)
>>572749926https://store.steampowered.com/app/3710600/Warhammer_40000_Dark_Heresy/
>>572749780It's mostly safe behind the thick little pylon / antenna jutting out of the console the skull's attached to.
>>572749780I stand by the front entrance near the elevator so I can spawncamp the elites and specials for the team.
>>572728125it doesn't and never has
>>572749991>what is the bolter for?Deadshot talent + Surgical blessing headshot sniping, piss tag to fuel stamina. Reload speed stacking to minimize downtime. You don't magdump it unless it's an emergency. Monsters count as one.You can spend most of the mission just holding your bolter and exploding elite and specialist heads.
>>572728125
>>572747524Does this game play better on controller than mouse and keyboard?
>>572749738>>572749749>>572749886the granny voice on zealot is one of the best in the entire game
>>572746015I want a Sister of Battle, Genestealer, and some sort of Ork
>>572750527gretchin
An ork doesn't make sense because most of his guns aren't going to work unless there's suddenly an ork waaagh besieging the hive.
>>572750119Huh, that's weird.I thought it was 16 stacks. I swear it used to be 16 stacks at some point.
>>572746015want: ork mercenaryget: no idea
>>572750503fem agitator is so campy and retarded, I love her
>>572750108I've been thinking if the best spot you can have is around here ish and then split up 2 by 2 so 2 people are in the cuckshed for the minigame and the other 2 are by the spawn point, or do an equal split along the entrance and sort of fan out by the entrance and then have a skit auto complete the minigame. Typically in my games everyone just kinda huddles in the cuckshed so it might just be a solved point and there's no point dwelling on it.
>>572750527>>572750907
>>572747580I would prefer a Votann but both seem unlikely now going off what they’ve said about struggling with the PoV>>572748836Eldar is almost certainly never ever but I could see a low tier Sister like a Chirurgeon happening
>>572749992Omg this looks great.Also, this game has two xenos in it we can have on our team. And being that Fatshark likes to drop classes or story beats along with other Warhammer games we might be getting something soon. Especially with some of the background lore choices we could get as Skitarii.If I recall there's three specific backgrounds that mention Xenos, one is, I assume, referring to Tyranids and Genestealers, then there's two more, one referring to Xenos inside a mining planet/hive and another where the Skitarii are investigating reports of Xenos "warping" or something.Going by the Mortis Trial stories which are a year old now and Fatshark I don't think has ever added to it; one shows Ruffis or whatever the fuck his name is asking a Servitor what to do and they say the entire planet needs to be purged. Now with it being we haven't caught Wulfer yet and shit is barreling out of control we could be at the point of no return where we have to "begrudgingly" ask a Xeno Race to help us.
>>572750907the ogryns around are dumb enough to provide plenty of stupid energy to keep them functional
expeditions are pretty fun, it's like old difficulty of when the game first came out tuning wise, so you have to solo carry every auric
>>572750527None of those are happening.
>We're part of an inquisitorial warband fighting heretics in a hive city so I want to be a KROOT!>No, I want to be a VOTANN!>Um, can I be a hecking wholesome chungus FRIENDLY ORK???
>>572751193Needs more map types.
>>572745596you really do just sit in the wings waiting for an argument so you can interject to say the dumbest instigating shit you can think of don’t you
>>572751169Now I might be a stupid secondary who's only knowledge comes from the video games and friends who actually play the tabletop or read the books but I'm rather sure the orkish psykik field specifically comes from other orks, not just from other retards.
>>572746015honestly I have no expectations, I thought arbites and hive scum were forced / rather obvious respectivelya xenos race would be neat but I doubt it, plus I doubt fartshark could pull it off wellsisters seem like a good choice, a mix of zealot/veteran I reckon
>>572751169Ogryns don't believe in gork and mork.And they're not latent psykers.
>>572751317Pussy.
>>572751296Wait, we're in a Inquisitional Warband? I thought we were part of a Rogue Trader band.I mean we're already screwed with the head of the warband is either already joined Chaos or has some sort of Eldar relic keeping them alive
Why is the Autogun EVER an option? It's so fucking bad especially with Arbites and Skitarii since their class weapons are just so much better.
>>572750907Orks also would be a stupid as fuck as a class since it'd just lead to an ork infestation of Atoma.Also all orks are violent cunts who will just start trying to kill you the moment you show any weakness, or they think they can get away with it.As a whole it's just a dumb as fuck idea and orkfags are genuinely dumber than the race they fanboy over.
Did they at least give infantry lasguns automatic fire yet?
>>572751289All of them are happening
Are these numbers good anons?>>572751508>Wait, we're in a Inquisitional Warband? I thought we were part of a Rogue Trader band.Inquisitorial Warband that's piggy backing a Rogue Trader ship
>>572751309I sort of agree, if they go ham on the map types and content for this it will end up better than the base game, but that's a hard sell for most people who are havocbrainedAlso they should remove the timer. That shit is not fun in any way
>>572751582None of them are.You're more likely to see ogryn get a new ranged weapon that doesn't suck dick, than see any of those.
>>572751508>joined Chaos or has some sort of Eldar relic keeping them aliveProofs?
>>572751576lmfao no>>572751510the autogun is good though, it's the basic bitch rifle and they fulfill some niches that for ex. the skitarii weapons cant
>>572750503>>572750982She just makes me think of Invader Zim every time I hear her. Or is granny voice the third one? I don't remember what the third fem Zealot voice was like
>>572751606It'd be better to have Mobility at 60% total, it's usually the dump stat
>>572751657There are now zones with no timer.
>>572749780>>572751086Yeah having 1-2 people over on elevator side to kill all the ranged elites is the way to do it. If suppression wasn't such an ass cancer mechanic, shooting back would maybe be a decent response depending on ranged weapon and ranged TTK, but not being able to aim if you have gunner aggro just means you're better off hitting everything with melee. Didn't they remove Vet's suppression immunity talent in the last Vet overhaul too? lmao. Fuck suppression, man
>>572751803I guess that's true, but mobility does affect stuff like ADSI'm more curious how important stopping power is in practice
Question about Expeditions, is there some sort of expectation not to clear the whole maps? I'm playing the beta node which is timerless and I notice people often just beeline it to the door, are they retarded or am I retarded?
>>572751606why did we have to get some broke ass inquisitor that can't even afford his own sword class frigate
>>572752038Most people who play the game are.
>>572751713Not directly on me but the dialogue can be heard I believe in the Mortis Trials? I could be misremembering.
>>572751508>Wait, we're in a Inquisitional Warband?Only the 4 original classes get that luxury.But even then it is not that glamorous, like there's some perks to, but at the end of the day the 4 originals are just expendable muscle that can be thrown at an urgent problem that needs fixing.
>>572751745Infantry lasguns are so tedious to use without an autoclicker.
>>572752038expeditions in general are retarded, don't worry about it kitten.
>>572751849yeah I neglected to mention it but i've been playing those exclusively because they're just 50000x more fun than the restfatshark needs to look into the statistics on expeditions and see that probably everyone is playing those
>>572752242>Only the 4 original classes get that luxury.aren't the hive scum technically part of the warbrand? or were they just temporarily recruited, I actually dont have the DLC so I got no clue
>>572746015Im expecting SoB and Eldar. iirc they just announced a Kill-Team box with Exodites, so maybe we'll see a push with those.
Next class will be sister of battle because it'll be cheap, zealot reskin that they quickly slopped together.The 5th class is going to be eldar and they'll reveal it next year at 2027 Warhammer Skulls event, since it will take more effort to make an eldar DLC class, just like they took their time with skitarii.Also eldar class will generate way more hype than another zealot, so they'll relegate sister to the same release timeslot as hive scum where people don't really care for it.
>>572752276>>572752146reddit gold for your excellent unique humor thank you dear sirs
>>572752038Its VERY easy to wipe if everyone isnt on top of it. 100% is btter than 50%, but 50% is better than zero.
>>572752350>aren't the hive scum technically part of the warbrand?No, not at all.They are just working alongside the warband, just like the arbites and now the skitarii are.
If you play a female character I think less of you.
>>572752838That's nice
>>572751508>Wait, we're in a Inquisitional Warband?Rannick literally says "Welcome to the warband" and the rejects are referred to as acolytes sometimes. A lot of shit in Darktide uses Dark Heresy as a reference like how Vermintide cribbed WFRP a lot.
>>572752038Most people who play Expeditions don't really know what they are doing. Many just go to the door because it's the clearest "move forward" type point on the map, so they instinctually just go to it.Also most of Expeditions playerbase are newer darktide players who don't know any better and are just experimenting all the random shit in the game because the game doesn't explain anything.Practically 90% of people will play Expeditions once or twice and then just ditch the mode because it's genuinely just badly made.Like Expeditions was a standalone game on Steam, it'd be basically the typical unfinished, clearly uninspired, boring, Early Access, Forever Project that never gets finished.
>>572752838only my psyker is female because magic is fem coded and playing a male psyker feels very troonish
>>572752838Careful, or my fem maul is gonna smooch you.
>>572752838What if I'm a female
Dark Heresy?
>>572751508>I thought we were part of a Rogue Trader bandNo we're just squatting on a Rogue Trader's ship because she owes Grendyl a favorThat's why she's always seething so hard at our presence
been playing nothing but expeditions for 3 days >50k tech remnants getting this fucking drip is misery
>>572752008>suppression does literally fucking nothing to the enemies>but a reaper shooting a wall makes your character freak the fuck out and start wobbling like he's walking on stilts that are about to snapI hate niggershark
what the fuck does rending even do>>572753451>enemies within supplement
>>572753392>He can't understand the appeal of WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOMFag>>572753446You're not.
>>572753470If that's the case I wonder if she could add a Xeno into our team because she's seething so much? That feels like enough room to add a class outta left-field, so much so to create a stink due to how upset she is.
Fatshart will never give us a Xenos character for darktide. We're not going to get an Eldar character. Do you know why? Their weapon pools will be too small. GW won't let fatshart pad an Eldar's weapon roster with random shovels and ghetto blasters, and the swedes are too lazy to add more than ~6-7 new weapons
>>572753680rending = armour penetration>>572753692how do you know
>>572753540What exactly is the drip?
>>572752838Exception is warp grandma
>>572753680Rending = Buff that applies to you yourself that makes you deal more damage to armored foes.Brittleness = Debuff you apply to enemies that makes them have less armor, and therefore take more damage.
>>572754731I always forget that exact thing. This game is made by a Swedish Developement Team and they're far to lazy and unmotivated to do anything but the very bare minimum if that.
>>572754731>>572755180Xenos would be a horrible mistake, especially if it was a fuckass Tau. The last thing I want is to share a game with Xenosfaggots.
Made a proper zealot looking lass, but all the female player characters i've seen in this game try too hard to be pretty
>>572755336They could probably handwave an explanation that would allow Eldar to work. But that would take effort both in handling the story properly and in creating a decent selection of weapons for the character. The swedes won't do that.
>>572755336Oh my gosh I'd love to play as a female Fire Warrior
>>572753541>suppression does literally fucking nothing to the enemiesnobody tell him
>the noose skull consistently does half or more of my damage (despite somehow getting very few kills???)Am I obsolete?
>>572755604In fairness it's not like they'd have a lot to work with when it comes to Eldar, poor bastards.>>572755702>less distinction between the men and woman than the fucking SkitariiWould be a good middle finger to Taufags.
>>572755863It's just super broken right now, in both good and bad ways. Don't worry, they will nerf it soon.
i fucking hate hate HATE playing with no lights on
>>572755863The game seems to be loosing track of the skull's kills in a lot of situations when the target dies to the burn dot, and a lot of random poxwalkers are going to end up surviving the the laser blast but die moments later to the burn.
>>572746015We had cops and robbers, now we got a tech guy, next class is going to be a primitive OR fatshark throws a curveball whilst still staying on theme and we get the new enemies instead, which are the lowtech primitives.
>>572754742>>572755042does it apply to both melee and ranged attacks? ought to also ask if the same happens with cleaving, does a cleaving bonus apply to ranged attacks aswell or only melee?
>>572756394>drawing a trend from a single data point
>>572756394Aside from what >>572756650 saidA - we already have primitives in the form of ogrynsB - im fairly certain arbites wasn't fully planned out and instead was forced by GW, same reason Owlcat's Rogue Trader had an arbites DLC
>>572752838Fem fanatic has the best voice in the game.Fem maul is Kerillian so I am contractually obligated to use her.Fem cadian is literally the only vet that is not annoying.
>>572756791why is GW trying to force arbites?
>900k damage done>90 damage takenVoltaic is so fucking broken holy Christ. I wonder if this'll ever actually get nerfed
>Dark Heresythis game is going to suck if only because the antagonists are going to be Night Lords which is basically Coldsteel the Edgehog chapter of 40k, theres no way you can actually write anything decent around them. They aren't even proper Chaos Marines they just tag along with Abaddon because ummm they just dont like gay nice things okay?
>>572757010Nicely done, anon :)
>>572756978>only vet that is not annoying.Male Professional shits all over the other vets.
>>572756480If it's not specified as ranged or melee, it's both.
>>572756237NTA but yeah, I've noticed a lot of my skull's kills don't show up in the kill feed, probably this burn thing you're describing.
>>572757212I yuck your yum.
>>572756791As much as I know /coopg/ and 4chan hate to discuss this but I could diffidently see them doing a female-only class to balance out Ogryn; be it as a Eldar Xenos, an Abhuman Beastmen, or the easiest option, due to this being a Swedish Game Dev and them hating any work or effort, a Sister of some sort.I truly think we will be getting Genestealers at some point as a enemy faction to fight against though. We had wanted-esq posters for them hanging around some of the city maps for Closed Beta (now removed), we still have their vehicle stationed in one of the maps (a old human mining vehicle modified for warfare), we have a number of classes background lore to choose from and class dialogue between allies in-game and the most recent addition was the battleplans we can grab from No Man's Land mission as an objective.
>teammate gets niggered by TRIPLE fucking trappers before being able to move>hear poxbursters coming in >say fuck it and try to just push them away >of course the push immunity bug happens and everyone flies off the mapyou're fucking kidding me
>>572757425fixed btw :)
>>572756986They put out a kill team for them last year
>>572757225hello there
>>572757405Are genestealers and sisters often correlated or is that a separate line of logic you're going down?
>>572753289I genuinely enjoy it now for 4 reasons, after hating it on release>more objectives make it a bit more varied>the maps without the timer completely turn the dynamic on its head and makes the gamemode way way better>extremely high enemy density>you aren't forced to go the gay fucking retarded same auspex puzzle 10 times per mission anymore because of more objectives and because skitarii can just hack itthese things all come together to make it a genuinely fun experience equivalent with the main mode for me
I don't want to share directly but I'm also way to excited not to hide it entirely.There is a weapon blessing for Skitarii that works with the Noosphere Servo node and it is fucking insane. My skull now one-shots Plague Ogryns and the like
>>572757584
>>572757772Well like I've seen the anons talking about them becoming brood hosts or whatever, is that such a common thing that they're intrinsically linked and SoB stories often revolve around Genestealer cults or vice versa?
>>572756986was*and they were trying to force Arbites because they were releasing the Kill Team models.Or atleast that's what I though, I dug around and turns out i'm retarded and the Arbites kill team models were released a year earlier in 2024.Though it is rather obvious that the arbites DLC for rogue trader and darktide were planned ahead to release at the same time, especially for the skulls event
>>572757584Correlated in that a lot of background lore for our classes when we choose the planet we're from or something we did on another planet always mention them and in the Sisters case, as much as this sounds like a copout we do now have a Sister in Training that we talk to for our Penaces and we have a brand spanking new event active now which is to donate relics to her and the Sisters for safe keeping.Even though it's hard to keep a pattern with Fatshark of all dev teams when things are constantly mentioned more and more and it becomes less and less a reference or easter egg one would suspect that there may be talks or hyping up talk, like now for inteceptation of such things in the future.If anything and the most to come from this is that they're probably the most likely things to occur due to how many things in game mention them, like they did with the Skitarii to a degree (we got tons of it in and around No Mans Land mission)
>>572757965not really intrinsically linked.But the SoB are a female-only faction and the genestealers involve alien rape breeding nestsyou can put the two together why some people would talk about them
>>572758157Just to go on this too, Rogue Traders also dropped a Mechanicus character as well as the Tech-Marine from SM2 as well.And being that the new Dark Heresy CRPG shows a a few Xenos on your crew we might have something similar for Darktide too
>>572757405> I truly think we will be getting Genestealers at some point as a enemy faction to fight against thoughMost agree it is inevitable, the problem is that Fatshark is in an abysmal state right now so we have no clue when that will release.>>572757114Night Lords do have some surprisingly decent stories some of them are actually kinda sympathetic, some of them do look down on Chaos though yeah>>572755604Exactly. They could make it happen if they really wanted, but they’d need to actually progress the story further along to make that narrative leap and actually try when it comes to implementing it, and that’s just a double no no right now.
>>572747865Arby teaches you bad habits because he's unkillable thanks to all the toughness regen
>>572746015> and I apologize if it's been asked and discussed beforeBuddy… if only you knew…
>suddenly I'm all rubberbandy>can't move, can't melee>tell teammates I'm laggin hard>put my back to wall, hold block>they form around me fighting a horde until lag goes awaythat's pretty tight, this community isn't so bad
>>572751447don’t sign your posts cvck
>>572758821What fucking causes this. Half the time I play this god damn game I stop being able to move my character and my character, on its own proceeds to drag itself back two tiles away unless I die from enemies.
>>572759008shit internet
>>572759008Swedoid server software
>>572758821>>572758887i've noticed the servers have been super shit today in particular. Had a 20 minute expedition run just completely delete itself a minute from extracting. It even rolled back a couple penances i'd earned
>trigger a daemonhost>two people immediately leavedamnation btw
>>572751508Anon… please…>>572754181I’m not following your logic. She would be opposed to doing that, not on board. >>572754731Don’t forget the class exclusive mechanics it would have to have and the rig in some cases.
>>572757405>I truly think we will be getting Genestealers at some point as a enemy faction to fight against thoughNever happening because of all the work they'd have to put in for something people would want them to release for free, even at a modest price as an expansion type deal, they wouldn't cover the development cost of making an entire new set of models, textures, rigs, animations, weapons, sound design, dialogue and maps. Some things they could reuse, but a new faction is almost an entire new game in terms of man hours, if Darktide were popular it could happen, but it isn't.Brunt has been missing for years, time to let it go.
>hear trapper coming>I'm boxed in by the horde, no room to dodge>get netted>no one is in coherency of anyone>wipe 10 seconds later
>>572752151im like 90 percent sure no such voice line exists. i think you’re confusing morrow’s former regiment with our own.
>>572759418this is like the one reason i can't play anything but ogryn. One swing of my pick is all i need to clear space in a horde and no other character can replicate this in a pinch with just their melee
>>572759418>split from team>blame others
>>572759418>he didn't push his way out>he got boxed in to begin with>he didn't herd his retarded cats>heDid this to himself.
>>572759612That's a pretty uncommon scenario to bother you so bad that you can't play any of the other classes.
I doubt we will get genestealers as this anon pointed out well, >>572759356, plus I can't imagine genestealer cultists being anything more than reskinned dregs/scabs (except for actual proper genestealers, those would be basically roided up ragers)
>>572759612it sounds like you're just bad with positioning if you need to knock over a horde that often
>>572759762it's more of an example, ogryn pickaxes in one swing can cleave and kill a entire group of enemies, until you mix a shield in there, while no other character has a weapon that just sweeps the screen and rapes a dozen mobs.
>>572751508Grendyl's warband, run by Rannick, hitching a ride on Brahm's ship. We don't know what Grendyl's deal is, but we can surmise he's on the ship from Mortis snippets and the fact that Kharib is joined to Grendyl at the hip for some reason. He's a magos biologis, so whatever's up with Grendyl is biological in nature. Personally my money is on him having a Halo Device bonded to him since he's been alive for centuries, there's other life extension available, but stretching human life starts to require horrific shit after centuries.
>>572759356>>572760040You're missing the forest through the trees even though you've both called it.You two are absolutely right, Fatshark is to lazy and to incompetent and or greedy to do this for free so the easiest out is to lazily reskin nurgle cutlists we have now with masks covering their heads.In fact, I don't know how many people have noticed this but there is a singular Zealot cosmetic helmet that is oblong in shape - akin to a early staged Genestealer Cultist.If you're interested in the head piece I can swap to my Zealot to see if its in the paypiggy store.
>>572760451>Fatshark is to lazy and to incompetent and or greedy to do this for free so the easiest out is to lazily reskin nurgle cutlists we have now with masks covering their heads.please noalso, you will have to point out the cosmetic to me
>accept some faggot into my havoc party>he starts accepting randomly>fuck it whatever I don't care just troll me I guess>all three of them straight up die about 6 times each>finally choke on the clutch when twins + plogryn spawn and they shove me into the poxburster swarmsI knew what I was getting into but I'm still disappointed.
does anything (difficulty, map) increase the amounts of tech remnants you get doing expeditions?
>>572753451What the fuck>>572760210That’s possible, and it would put Grendyl soundly in the radical camp which would allow some more creative freedom
>>572760210i don't like the idea of them adding xenos, i can't really articulate but it would be like what fortnite has been doing for years
is galvanic rifle le good
>>572760451Most cultists have at least one extra arm which means an entirely new animation rig with animations to match, models too, they also tend to make mock tyranid bioforms, dog/mutant/ogryn/monstrosity equivalents would be these. There's no easy way out that GW would ever green light.>too lazy, incompetent, greedyNo, the biggest hurdle is that they lost the employees with the technical skill to make something like this in a timely manner. They could make this given time and budget, but they would never, ever recoup the cost even if they sold it given how long it would take. From a strictly business sense, it's just not feasible. Darktide would have to have an active playerbase an order of magnitude greater than it managed to get with skitarii release for them to even consider taking the risk.
>>572761096>anon's never seen girls kissing before
>>572760793It's not in store at the moment but I did find it.It is called the Fanatics Hood and the preview image I found doesn't give it justice. You know how Gene Stealers have that slanted skull and the longer you've been one the worse it deforms?This hood is far worse when you preview it on your character and it honest to god makes your Zealot look like a 1st or 2nd Staged Gene Stealer.If you follow the shape of the skull from the brow upwards it slants far more than the hoods they have in-store right now.
>>572761293No because it doesn't have the ping.
>>572761293Phosphor does what it does, but better. So no.
>>572761293It's okay but not particularly good
>>572761386I think its just the case of fartshark models sometimes being ass
>>572761310I will concede on this and you do have a point but I will say this, Fatshark will eventually have to give us a new faction to fight because we can assume or I at least hope assume most people are getting increasingly tired of constantly going against Nurgle Cultist three or four years into this games life
>>572761824They would sooner make a sequel, and that's only happening when cosmetic purchases dry up.
>>572757638erm give a hint?
>>572730054>Also here's some more cursed knowledge.I still don't understand how looger builds can get ~60% crit on the regular.
>It's another episode of a singular gunner sniping you crossmap while you're resing your entire team
>>572759356>if Darktide were popular it could happen, but it isn't.It has 21k players on steam right now, simply because of a new class..
I might be retarded, how am I supposed to use transonic blades effectively?
>>572762471it has two modes, you can tell which one it is by the direction the lines on the blade go (or just be like me and occasionaly M1 to remind yourself)first mode is for clearing chaff and hordes, struggles against armoursecond mode is for single targets, not ideal for hordes
>>572759356>>572762351>If Darktide were popularImma need you to see something.
>>572762230dreg gunners are supposed to have lower accuracy but it sure as fuck doesn't feel like it
>>572749991Bolter is a better fit for Zealot imo. Bolter is a jack of all trades gun it kills crushers, specials, enough ammo for shooters, horde clear, monstrosity damage, etc. The issue is its not really great at any of those things. Vet really needs more performance out of his ranged since his melee is so weak.
>>572762351~20k range for buying an expansion that cannot be more expensive than the base game and would take a couple hundred people being paid around six figure sums at least two years of dedicated effort to make (they are swedish, could be double that estimate) is not financially feasible.>>572762607Below 10k daily peak now. By the end of the year it'll probably be half that. No wonder Bungie axed half its payroll, guess that makes them an equal opportunity employment terminator.
Sometimes when I block/push with my troon blades, there's a CLINK sound.The fuck is that.
>>572762961Your stamina hitting 0, maybe. I don't remember if there's a sound recognition of perfect blocks. Think you also get a clinking sound when you parry stuff during the stance change.
>>572762961you are a clinker
>>572762961they have a parry built in I think.
>>572763230You can't say that in the big 26
>>572763097>Your stamina hitting 0nah its specifically not that, the clink sound is more like glasses hitting each otherI can't tell if its parrying, perfect parrying, or some other shitI still don't understand how or if you can chain the stance change, I just press my middle mouse button when a mauler shows up
as much as i love relic blade cleaving, it doesnt have that OOMPH of thunder hammer throwing people left and right
>>572763423the clink, I'm pretty sure, is just a unique sound they have for perfect blocking. They don't really "chain" back and forth, the best you can do is use the block during the change animation as a "parry" and follow up with the empowered slash that comes after.
I want to get the Backstab penace done for my Zealot, what's the best way to go about doing that?
>>572724976went to play some aurics cause couldn't find any half decent players for h40 lobby, got netted 3 missions in a row
>>572763962lol>>572761247i kind of get what you mean, I think we really need another property at this point to scratch that particular itch, but who knows when or where it’s going to pop up
>>572761247>>572764308here's your 40k coop game against genestealers anons
>>572763423Isn't that just the blocking sound they make?I'd be pretty amused if I accidentally hit perfect block every single time and just never got the normal sound.
>>572759356>Brunt has been missing for yearsit does make me wonder who this guy is in hab dreyko, only noticed it a couple weeks ago so i dont know how long hes been there, i usually never take the lower route near the medstation around this part
i like yo niggas Gifs.
>>572764885The dead Ogryn has been there since the map was released I think
>>572759234>Don’t forget the class exclusive mechanics it would have to have and the rig in some cases.I don't think Eldar is going to happen, but not for this reason. New classes means new mechanics no matter what class that they're adding. But for human classes they can copy-paste the generic weapons to pad their weapon supply.
>>572764885>>572765041How come it's always dead ogryns in these maps? Never seen a dead guardsman (unless we wanna count the flayed guys on the spiky wheels). Does Fatshark really hate Ogryn that much?
>>572764689the blocking sound is lower and more bulky, not sure how to describe it.The parry (?) sound is a high CLINK, like glasses
>>572765374I think the idea is that the ogryns died recently, moments before you arrived
>play expeditions and chill with bots>3 players join>they beeline for the door and wipe and now i have event spawns to deal with solocool
>>572765916>playing expeditions
>>572765374Ogryns corpses are harder to move>what do they want with corpses:)
>>572763960Good news it doesn't exist anymore. Now it's 7500 kills with the Zealous aura
>>572762601>second mode is for single targets, not ideal for hordesPush light light heavy. The second mode stays on during the rape.
>>572765976they're fun now sorry oyu didnt get the memowait for a yotuber to point it out to you I guess
>>572767502
>>572767502Then I forgot to post with the gif, deleted the post, and it turned out the gif I wanted to use was too big anyway. Fuck it, not even reposting.
>>572767502we saw what you deleted
>>572767628ogryn...
>>572767502Done this before
>cleaving through poxniggers>zealot cheering FOR THE GOD EMPEROR>vet screaming FOR THE GOLDEN FRAGGIN THRONE>right as immortal imperium peaksthis game is alright sometimes
>>572768457>right as immortal imperium peaksNever fails to get me hyped for human supremacy
anyone know how to unlock this insignia? it shows up in my cosmetics pane with a bugged penance, and I can't find it anywhere as a reward in the penance menu. I assume it's skitarii?
>dropped voice of command>put on executioner's stance instead>stopped mashing and started spamming the fuck out of dodge and pushblock>still getting CHEWED DOWN by poxniggers but... just had a run where I somewhat survived alright-ishAll it took was a post about being proactive instead of reactive, I'm improving
>completely fucking beef it and overload as psyker because I miscounted my shriek CD in my head>teammate uses medstim on me>six fucking things where a medstim would've been better used happen afterwardsJust send me to the executioners block...
>>572761931the studio would implode if they tried that in their current state, i could see them just dumping everything they have planned into the current game at this point. >>572768457>>572768732its moments like these that remind you of this settings potential in game form. hopefully one day we’ll get something similar to it from someone else.
>>572769752What melee weapon?
>>572769637You get it if you got the insane penaces prior to patch.
>>572770613>INSANE penances!! >play 15 missions with a bugged skilllmao
>>572769815I fucked up the 2nd clutch because I blew my plasma gun up...
>>572770613really? so is it unobtainable now...?
what does this chaos rune mean?
>>572770667>15 missionsI got my 500 by doing 3 ranged only maelstroms with MMT.
>>572770753Apparently a lot of CN players were complaining on the forums. So anyone who got a certain amount of the Penaces that were changed done prior to the update got that.
>>5727707622girls1cup
>>572770373Shovel
>>572771089its always the chinks
>>572771089did you just make this up on the spot? I can find no reference to this on any official fatshark channel and it's not the kind of thing they usually do
>>572770762It's a pair of eyes and one very angry monobrow
>>572769815I'm putrid dogshit at this game and there was a game where I was playing psyker where a guy spent the whole game on stim duty giving them to me he gave it to me like 5 times and I wanted to ropeCute though
>>572770613Bullshit lol. I got all 3 before the patch and didn't get that.
>>572771331I recommend the mk 3 with decimator and skullcrusherDecimator will give you more cleave and impact to help you manage hordes Try to herd the enemies in such a aay that they are in front of you instead of surrounding you then you should be able to get pretty far by just light attack spamming and performing a push when you see an enemy going for an attack
>>572771467
Honestly, I thought The Galvanic would be caseless seeing as it's a battery gun more or less. That said I don't see shells ejecting ever.
>>572771973it shoots the entire bullet, case and all
>>572771973knowing the imperium the bullet fires into a button inside the gun and the button makes the gun fire
>>572772078maybe it's a very heckkin powerful laser that zaps the firing cap.
>>572771864Never thought to try the other marks, huhI rely on the stab as my panic button vs ragers when they start their unstunnable animation at meTy anon, I've also started to let the enemies come to me instead of moving forward and getting surrounded, in my last game a guy got grabbed and I almost rushed in to save him (lost a lot of hp before i realized it was a bad idea but at least I did)
>>572772078The heaviest duty firing pin.
>>572771864What the fuck nigga the folded attacks do insane damageNuts
>>572772384What ranged weapon? It's not abnormal to be unable to facetank ragers as a veteran and you are often better off just shooting them. If i remember correctly then a special (folded) light attack to the head can 1shot both rager types so you can do that if you aren't actively being targeted by a rager horde>>572772594With skullcrusher you should be able to 2 shot crushers in aurics -and stagger them the entire time- with 2 heavy special attacks under the right circumstances
>>572772827Vraks autogun to kill gunners with mostly
>>572773045It's pretty good for killing ragers
>nerf bolter GL ammo regen into the ground>it's still the best gun in siegeThey should reverse the nerfs to the regen of the perk and the ammo crate, it's not even OP in operations, since enemy density isn't the same and ammo crates are scarce
jesus christ the difficulty spike going from random campaign and event missions to the train is wild
>>572771973I have a big annoyance with the galvanic rifleIts loaded with clips but the clip is never ejected/removed, its shoved in there alongside the bullets into the endless void. Also ends up throwing me off a bit whenever I reload with ammo still remaining.And all that annoys me since all other reload animations have the magazine removed.
Am I griefing by choosing to spec into Smite instead of Assail?
>>572773591The train on higher difficulties is kind of a tossup, depending on the team. You cannot fuck around and you have to move, most people are too stupid to understand that.
>play Zealot after grinding Hives Cum penances for the last week>actually feel slow>on ZealotYeah Scum is not balanced. The class has rockets attached to their feet at all times, they slip and slide through danger like the greased up deaf guy from Family Guy. Crackhead strength is real.
>>572773860Depends. You can go an entire match without using or even needing either
>>572773860Yeah because everybody hates Smiggers for turning the game into a training dummy dps session.
>>572774019I like that it increases the damage of my team and also creates space but sheesh it makes you perils easy.
>>572773908the other skitari in my group kept trying to actually hack everything instead of using servo skull, and i swear to god if i didnt have aoe chode claw we all died i failed with like 3 different groups before i finally beat it, and im only on heresy right now
>>572773860I actually quite like the smiggers sometimes if they properly use the smite power to stunlock enemies>>572773591>>572773908I really wish the train map was modular but that would probably need making the timer more lax, lest you're fucked by the rng
Drooling sword was nerfed too hard
>>572773860If you save you smigging for serious situations you will be fine. Assail kinda sucks desu.
Well?
>>572773860If you have a gun and empowered psyonics, then not
>Join my friend for a H30 game on Dreyko>On the 2nd floor two Packmasters spawn>The room gets filled with toxgas from all the bombers that are seemingly invisible and unlocatable>After we kill the first Packmaster, The Twins spawn>A poxburster falls from an upper platform and instagibs our Scum>There is DH ritual going on during all of thisSometimes this game just want you fucking dead.
>>572774691No, I wonder where those guys are. It's not like they spawn in packs of 6 in uprising or something.
>>572773860Please don't. I'm an otherwise agreeable, chill guy but smite spammers make me want to yell the n-word.
>>572774161You should be doing damage 99% of the time because psykers are one of the highest damage classes in the game. You are part of the team too so smigging actually reduces the damage of your team. You should basically only use it so your team can go for a quick revive
>>572769752how do you go down to melee to anything but berserkers or a crusher patrol.even maulers aren't really that threatening, such a far cry from their vermintide that constantly did this.
>>572774691yeah they're annoying as shit. It's like a worse Bulwark.
I never understood the point of assail
>>572774691just make them elites
>>572774691I like the reason they exist and I like that their infinite poise bug was fixed right away.
>>572775041It's strong if you pick the middle keystone. People usually use it with melee focused builds that use guns to quickly kill ranged elites and rager packs
>>572775041yondu is cool and being able to larp as him is even cooler
>>572774779Oh yeah packmasters spawn either in pair or back to back. Fun bug desu, it's like they're making up for their time lost in the wastes.
>>572773719No the clip is removed. It's done in that kinda animation where they let the strip stick in, then use the closing of the breech to make it fly off and give the metallic "ping".
What is the current game they are working on anyways? Will it be another tide game or has the Chinese overlords forced them to follow trends?My guess if it is a tide game it will be deathwatch. I don't see them returning to the fantasy IP and space marines make cosmetics really easy to sell.
>>572775318true>>572775495I think they are still working on dorktide, I hope atleast
>>572771973dont think about it
>>572774970I should probably get a different staff than the semi auto one with the charge blast right?
>>572775552Brother dorktide is in a zombie state where they just release classes as a min maxxing effort to extract the most amount of money they possibly can from this game.
>>572774986he's on a vet, he wants to shoot, and there's no spaceexe stance is the only option in this situation because it regens toughness for you, ranged kills don't generate enough
>>572775732but the expeditions, the mortis trials...
>>572775041It has good cleave and good dps, you can clear or soften up hordes with it on demand. It can also quickly raise your peril, it saves you ammo, and triggers on warp kill talents.It's very handy in gunpsyker builds, not so much in anything else.
>>572775495vermintide 2
>>572769815I JUST FUCKING HEADBURSTED A POXBURSTER BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A MUTIE ABOUT TO GRAB MY OGRYN MID REVIVE KILL ME
>>572771973I've seen the Galvanic rifle in 40k art all the time but I had to read the wiki about them to learn if they were really a ballistic firearm after seeing the trailer but the wiki says nothing about thisit's cool it has the loading as an m1 garand and other similarities but it's so weird to use such a gun with only 8 ballistic rounds in the 40k setting, not to mention there's that capacitor looking cylinder under the rifle that looks more fitting to be the gun's magazine
>>572775219>the middle keystoneEmpowered Psionics is shit, it only exists to make Smiggers not completely and utterly useless. Disrupt Destiny is the best Assail keystone, it benefits greatly from the bonuses and is very good at stacking the passive quickly.
>>572776671you load the top clippy thingy in the top and it shoves down into the revolvermegajogathingamabob and shoots the bullets and when you reload you stealthily lean the gun back and let all the empty shells fly out of the revolvermegajogathingamabob and that's why you don't see the shells you see.
>>572775719If you aren't playing havocs then i'd say the scrier's gaze electro staff with the surge and warp nexus blessings build is the strongest. It just requires a lot of left click ping pong ball spamming so you might want to use a macro or the skitarius mod to do that for you
>>572775041keeps your disrupt destiny maxed easily and heavily profits from disrupt destinywhen you play a melee focused build you can just shit out a couple shards then go back to melee and they'll whirr around while you fightit's fun but you do really need the 2 modifiers so it costs basically 3 points unlike the other blitzes
I want the cool asscape vet outfit, does the gold toughness from voice of command count as "restoring toughness"
TRANSONIC ATTACK
Flensing or redline for an arc rifle zap build?
>>572777380what is this meme from
>>572777856
>>572776876But do you see the shells by the sea shore?
>>572775041>Scrier's Gays ends>in that lingering effect, I can't blow myself up>dump all my glass knife stonks, delete swathes of enemies>go back to killing everything with my big swordIt's the most fun Psyker Blitz by a large margin
>>572775632This is painful. It's like some of those Fallout guns that got mercilessly shit on for years
So anons how do you feel about skitarii overall and how do you think they compare to the previous dlc classes
>>572778003
extremely funny prank by fagshark to make the signature gun of the dlc class complete shit and also make the shooting area of their tree both broken (sucks) and broken (literally doesn't work)
>>572778203Very fun. Might be my favorite of the DLC classes so far.
>>572778203Fun and extremely balanced by fatshart standards. Some of their arsenal is disappointing.
>>572777780Overload
why doesnt tranner make videos telling me how to play the game anymore
>>572778203extremely disappointing compared to scumfeels like I went from glass cannon to glass 9mm and lost all my speed and stamina advantages
>>572778203it's cozy with the servoskull revive, hack and kill. pretty equal in my rating of the other classes with how much I enjoyed played them.>>572778859I bet he's seeing someone
>>572778859she's recovering from surgery rn and is sensitive about her voice
>>572778203They're lacking anything that really makes them distinct like Arby and Scum have. They should have had the skull be a separate upgradable menu where you can customize it on top of getting regular blitzes or even something boring like they get a 3rd blessing for their weapons would have made them stand out more without being too busted
>>572778203Less killy than hive scum. Less tanky and crowd controlly than arbites. Has two playstyles, one is basically just a revolver zealot who isn't bringing beacon and isn't as tough, the other is an arbites who can't stun everything as often but has more DPS I suppose, and also isn't as tough.He's weird. I want the transonics and power sword buffed. Chordclaw needs to have infinite cleave by default. The range on weapon malfunction on voltaic and shock nades needs to go up. Some of the "on ranged kill" nodes need trigger fixes and easier triggers or stacks decaying one at a time instead of all at once because they have like 0 consistency on staying up compared to the rest of skit's stacking nodes the class seems to be obsessed with.Servo skull can't shoot through psyker bubble.Combat doctrines has hitreg on perpendicular moving targets.Overall a very selfish class to bring to havoc without the payoff that other selfish options offer, like rampage hive scum or chastise/stealth zealot.
so is crit chance + flak the best you can get with the staff? There's no real more dodging since stam is sprint speed I'm rather sure but it's not like the +25% flak matters when all thedamage is the DOT anyway>>572778203Fun, wish I could play him in havoc but everyones on the fresh DLC grind. Shame like half of his abilities are bugged out or not that good but that's just fatshark bullshit and it'll be patched.I really like noosy and having a somewhat high micro summon build, even though the "high micro" is just pressing my ping inbetween attacks, but it's fun.
How many more years is it going to take for us to confront Wolfer do yall think?
Whats the best staff weapon to pair with melee psyker if I don't want to use a gun
>>572778246it's a great gun for melee builds. Not every gun needs to be designed as a crowd killer
>>572780225Maybe in darktide 2
>>572780225genuinely never because they're probably working on a fortnite game mode instead
>>572778203All the melee weapons seem to be balanced around you picking every single damage talent and having them active at all times so they are very undertuned, they are clunky, the special activations are slow and unresponse and mostly unsatisfying to use. Killing enemies with arcs is very unsatisfying and makes it feel like you never got to do anything even if you end the mission with over a million damage doneThe servo skull can give you almost perfect uptime on a +20% TDR talent, a +10% Damage, a +20% damage and a +15% damage talent while itself doing more damage than most players, so you would never ever want to replace it the other mediocre blitzesThe arc maul never has enough uptime to feel good and it doesn't feel anywhere near as good to use as the mk3 bully club despite having the same light attacksThe transonic blades' mode switch is a very inconvenient gimmick that breaks the flow of combat by placing an unreliable and slow animation between your horde clears and your heavy single target attacks, and whereas power swords make crackling and wooshing noises, the transonic blades are completely devoid of any satisfying impact soundsThe new powersword is incredibly weak without all the damage talents and it's very unpleasant to use as a dedicated melee weapon because of its slow running speed and lack of dodges, but at least it has an actual usable special and the ability to quickly and reliably transition between horde clearing and single target attacksThe galvanic rifle just needs more ammoThe phosphor pistol is goodThe arc rifle is good but unsatisfying to use
>>572780439um sweety there isn't going to be a darktide 2 because time ends in 2030 it's in the bible
>>572705349Hey, my drawing! I didn't realize someone saved it. What a nice little surprise.
This patch reintroduced a lot of old bugsFor example ogryn heavy hitter penance is bugged again, it only counts at 5 which was max old stacks, but now is 8. This was previously fixed, now it's broken againI don't understand how this happens. Do these faggots really have such bad version control?
>>572780750Damn I should by more cosmetics before the world ends
>>572780750God I hope so.
>fatshark removes the option of pushing a burster before it explodes to temporarily neuter it >now it always explodes if you push it>retards go "yippee consistency">2 days pass and they experience what this change actually does when the poxburster is in the middle of the team because some retard kited it there>retards are now whining and asking to remove poxbursters, not making the connectionlmao
>>572780225Cats don’t have much of a smell so he’s crying because he’s sick and needs help but she’s just making fun of him
>>572781358anon, the entire point of the burster is to push it before it reaches the team. it was always supposed to be that way.
The arc rifle sounds so fucking wimpy.
>>572781674>anon, the entire point of the burster is to push it before it reaches the team. it was always supposed to be that way.there is a long standing bug that prevents you from doing this unless the burster is targeting you.
>>572775632>>572778191>>572776671The best and funniest part is that all leads back to the in-universe and also out-of-universe canon explanation that it all looks silly because people don’t have much of a clue what they’re doing now and as long as it’s functional it’s whatever
>>572780439so never…>>572781552that’s sad… and unfortunate…
Shock maul might actually be skit's best melee outside of arc builds.
>>572782527havent we being saying this since day 1
>>572782143true, that's what they gotta fix. the whole point of the bandaid was that bursters were just refusing to jump and explode. And the worst case I've seen, instantly exploding after standing behind some noob for 4 seconds as the whole team watched in horror.
>>572780139+25% flak works on dotsI'd rather take +25% unyielding for bulwarks and bosses instead of measly 5% crit chance. Though you do you, now that bulwarks were replaced with shield vanguards, it might not be worth it.idk what armor type shield vanguards count as for the purpose of dot calculation, maybe it's unarmed and you need to take +25% unarmed
>>572781052If you can imagine a bad practice, they employ it
>>572783194Wait the bonus damage works on dots? I thought it only affected the base damage, maybe carapace / unyielding would be worth it depending on the modifiers then.I just took the crit chance because I thought like, the bonus damage doesn't really matter and with crits I can proc empathic whatever even if it is just like 3% more uptime or some bullshit.
>>572783472crits also double soulblaze application so there's valid use cases for both
>>572781358this literally is not what happeningfatshark can't even code explosion on pushes so instead they fucking did some obscure logic that first reaggros them to you when you push them, then makes them fall over50% of time it works every timeevery other time you get a fucking invincible burster that completely ignores pushes until it decides to randomly reaggro at the closest player and detonate immediatelyPeople acknowledge that fatshark interns can't fucking code and if they didn't hire a competent developer in 3 years, it's never gonna happen and they will never fix it, so they want it removed and play the game in peace
>>572783472Yes and it's the same with other abilities like Zealot throwing knives
Are trappers also affected by this hitreg bug?I feel like im getting netted all the time now, which near no warning either.
>>572784024no, you're just bad
>>572784024anon you just suck
>>572783784I've had a look into the code for it before. There are lag compensation mechanics for bursters, just like dogs. The lag comp makes it so that your push gets very very high range if the special is targeting you. You can tell this works on dogs because when a dog is trying to jump you you can force push it with your mind, and otherwise barely at all. Same is true for bursters. So when some retard gets targeted by a burster and walks back into the team, nobody else can push the thing properly because the lag comp barely works. What you would do BEFORE this patch is just run up super close to it and push spam it so it at least drops on the floor safe, you fuck off and the situation resets. What happens NOW is that you have no counterplay. Retard kites it in? Someone's taking a hit from the burst
>>572784024anon....
just shoot the burster
Ogryns should be able to pick up bursters and throw them back at the enemy
>>572784880>So when some retard gets targeted by a burster and walks back into the team, nobody else can push the thing properly because the lag comp barely works.WrongThis is not the case hereYou get hitmarkers for pushing it, it completely ignores your pushes unless it's aggroed to you, and the bit that is supposed to switch aggro to you doesn't work (not that it's not a fucking insane approach in the first place)
>>572784880>Retard kites it in?What the fuck are you talking aboutHow the fuck are they supposed to know bursted is coming after them when they're the farthest player from a burster?What fucking kiting is happening in your head?
>>572786727nta but probably "I heard a burster so I'm gonna run behind my team who is going to ignore the burster like idiots and the burster is still gonna come after me despite the fact I'm no longer at the edge of the group and also the burster sounds farther away than he really is when around corners currently because they messed something else up and boom there goes joey"
>>572786231>hitmarkersclient sidethe actual hitreg is server side. Same system as phantom hits. Don't be confidently wrong please
>>572783194NTA but 5% crit is massive, I actively kept every scum out of my lobbies if they didnt bring crit
>>572775041I use it as a solution to ragers on my greatsword build since they'll just rape you otherwise because for some fucking reason an angry methhead is entirely indifferent to being cleft in twain but will fall on their ass shitting and crying if a blue piece of glass buzzes around near them
>>572787192>Don't be confidently wrong pleaseNo you.When I get 5 hitmarks in a row at point blank range when burster rounds a corner lag is irrelevant, at least one of them would go through.>>572786915This is nonsense, I'm always frontlining and I very often get bursters that try to get past me and target the player on the opposite side of the formation.
>>572787254Not for inferno staff
