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Kriselle edition

Previous nightmare: >>572721151

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

-Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font

-Thread Template (paste the current whiteboard links)
>https://pastebin.com/BS2RYBKA
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>fact
undertale and deltarune have very underwhelming stories
>fact
both protags fucking suck
>fact
the soundtrack is carrying the entire franchise on its back
>fact
every mystery creates three new mysteries instead of answering the old one
>fact
the community will invent lore faster than the game releases chapters
>fact
there are more theories than confirmed plot points
>fact
someone will explain why this was actually intentional game design
>fact
the fandom remembers unused dialogue better than the actual story
>fact
any toby fan is a fucking underaged retard or an adult with mental problems
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!

-/utg/ Canvases
>Current: https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96239777-9260-8312
>Previous: https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25875811-6377-7463
>Current: https://magma.com/d/3B5chWd0Vh
>Previous: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh

-Pippins Wiki
>https://utg-pippins-ocs.neocities.org
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is it just a coincidence that Catti is Cacti spelled backwards?
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Incels who spent a year calling her an abusive mom need to apologize
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>>572732324
>fact
chapter 5 is kino
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The bakers are fucking retarded
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>>572732324
Eh good enough, I'll take it
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the other thread is on page 6 you mongrel - have some decency.
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Fact: Kris made up the Incident so the player would feel bad for them
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>fact
JARONA
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>>572732398
They don't take place in the same universe, but that's because they are both different projects made by the ever-present W.D. Gaster
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>>572732485
they're doing it on purpose, trying to see what they can leave out of the OP
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>>572732463
Then why is it a dialog choice from Kris?
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YOUR ASS
IS WIDER
THAN A
CHURCH CHOIR
EAT MORE
(EAT MORE)
(EAT MORE)
BECAUSE I
WANT A
FAT BAAABE
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objectively real theory:
>Gaster is an autistic scientist that decided to make his own modded version of the original Deltarune where all his ships come true.
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>>572732582
HEH, IT'S MY JARONA!
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resisting the urge to immediately post strawman ragebait and start another argument that ruins the thread...
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>>572732448
>>572732324
-Thread Template (paste the current whiteboard links)
>https://pastebin.com/rTN8SxAw (embed)
real template by the way (faggot)
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>>572732680
Please GOD let this be true
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>>572732406
deltarune is written more like classic serialized, published per-chapter, narrative fictions. leaving more up to discussion is arguably better than having a huge cliffhanger like in hl2: ep2
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>>572732406
>the soundtrack is carrying the entire franchise on its back
no I also have a raging lust for the deltateens. intentional character design. toby knows his shit.
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>>572732463
>Toby scrambling with justifications
I winced when I read this. Don't do this, man. It was already obvious.
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>>572732630
>then why is it [schizo headcanon]
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>>572732324
>removed whiteboards
Holy fucking SEETHE lmao did the art linkies hurt your feefees?
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ch7 side b kris and noelle fall into the secret lake room where dess is and she's big and fat and round and goes BUUUUUUURP hey guys long time no see!
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>>572732907
>Anon watched the chapter on youtube
Grim
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Gaster-sama onegai
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>>572732883
If it was obvious I wouldnt have seen a year of dudes saying Toriel was a worse parent than Asgore.
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Is Aqua's variable number of eyes a bit about Kris not knowing how normal humans are or a bit about Asgore not knowing how normal humans are
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It's been a week since ch5. How are you feeling right now?
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>>572732790
December molesting Kris is genuinely more bearable to see in the thread than the troon shit
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>>572732940
they replaced the template too, keep an eye out for the end of the thread and use >>572732810
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It's okay, Mom. Susie let me crash at her cardboard box.
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>>572733040
I'm feelin' Togore-Testicular Torsion
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>>572732680
Gaster you can't write romance for shit, I'm sorry man.
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>>572733057
what a faggot
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>>572733040
I miss release day hype
I miss when it wasn't 100 degrees
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>>572733007
Just ignore stupid people instead of doing... THIS.
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In Chapter 6 Castle Town will be invaded
By Susie's Dad
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>>572733041
Its still hot when Dess is a futa
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>>572733040
I miss flowery
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>>572733057
>Retard self-insert touristshart SEETHING
Not big surprise
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>>572732463
Who do >we like more after this chapter, Asgore or Toriel?
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>>572733301
What does this mean?
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My biggest problem with Toriel as a parent is... why does she drive Kris to school late? She's a teacher?? Does she not know what time Kris is supposed to be there? They arrive together so her class is later?? Your moms a teacher, you arrive together to school, and you're late??? This is on her.
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flower power
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Every Dess is canon (device_theory)
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>>572733346
Asgore, easy. I will be giving him the honey toast in all of my Chapter 5 replays now.
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>>572733354
The retard who made the thread is a self-inserting tourist who seethed so hard he removed links from the OP and replaced the real template
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNGBKhm32Q
>Nubert shows up on Chapter 5 if you got no recruits even though he stays behind in Chapter 2 if you miss anyone
Bad game, bad writer, deport Toby Fox back to his home country
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>>572732630
They were hoping you'd pick the "you were too loud" option because of your hatred of Sans, and presume the presence of the "I was locked out" option would reinforce you believing their previous lie to Susie without you actually picking it and Toriel shutting it down.
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You cannot deny that the roaring knight has a slutty design.
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nyah
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>>572733528
why would they do that
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Why is self inserting as Kris evil but self inserting as Mew Mew applauded as brave?
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When will Chara get involved in DR plot? Or was she pulling the strongs all along?
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>>572733040
It's 100 degrees and I'm dying
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>>572733381
Alphys' biggest character flaw is acting like this is Kris' doing and not his fuck ass mom.
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>>572733528
Nah they aren't gonna be posting their honest faves while ragebaiting, they're just a shitter.
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>>572733556
If that were true Kris would have said it sarcastically or confused, but Toriels non-reaction plays it straight.
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>>572733642
Because you're trans, little egg.
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>>572732324
Hooman!
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>>572732630
To show Kris ur a gullible faggot
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I mean I get Toby is a man with a vision for his work but wasn't this line a little much?
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FOOKIN BRI'ISH FAVE SAYS WE DON WAN UR FOOKIN AC O'R HERE YOU YANK TWAT BASTARTS
>>
It's a thursday afternoon and you're using your time to remove the whiteboard links + the pippins wiki from the threads, and making a new pastebin for it too, I think you genuinely need to be put down I'm sorry why are you like this? no one other than you dislikes those things cant you be happy on your discord server or on /v/ instead of wasting your time destroying stuff?
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https://files.catbox.moe/yyvxhd.jpg
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>>572733346
Toriel for generating a new porn pose

>>572733381
My mom teaches preschool and they start later than k-12. So its possible the little kids just start later.
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>>572733894
Not enough, we need the concept plantation dark world,
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Toby would not have the fucking balls to actually let us see what happens if we planted a ton of floweries (Flowerys?), so that seed packet was probably just the PetalMantle he had equipped
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>>572733918
holy shit
>>
Surprised I haven't seen this until now
https://youtu.be/jU66PfMOtV0?si=MY2adDJb0wVfN1NN
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>>572733832
I see some gyot and flour in there too
>>572733918
This is the Deltarune Omocat wanted
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>>572733838
Thats not what that word means, ESL-buddy.
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>>572733918
This is a generic anime man raping a generic anime boy. No correlation to Deltarune.
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>>572732810
Where would you get whiteboard links, anyway? Are those:
>Current: https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96239777-9260-8312
>Previous: https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25875811-6377-7463
correct?
And what about Pippins wiki, what's the consensus in that?
>>572733619
Fuck off. It's not about you and your agenda.
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>>572733838
Can't wait to do a "scare Kris" route where you only do things that are intimidating to Kris like no hitting or winning that one racing game first try.
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>>572733040
Bad
Not because of the chapter though
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why is gaster green now what did I miss
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>>572733926
>captcha ate my image
Nyoooooo
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>>572733253
I can't believe there's barely any lewds despite being gay and a manwhore.
Does he need to be in a popular ship too? Is it because Asgore's already getting passed around to Rudy and Carol? It's unfair man.
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>>572734128
he's ill and cant hang out with you today anon, I'm sorry
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>>572734128
he's green now
that's his attack
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>Baiter "polling" to get links removed
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>>572733040
I am violently mewsexual rn
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>>572734039
>Where would you get whiteboard links, anyway?
By being part of the secret club who are REALLY MAD that someone deleted their secret club links
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>fat
Jevil
>fat
Rouxls Laard
>fat
King
>fat
Seam
>fat
Spamton
>fat
Queen
>fat
Ramb
>fat
Tenna
>fat
Mike
>fat
Gerson
>fat
Green
>fat
Asgore
>fat
Flowery
Any questions?
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>>572733619
Kris is a human so players can identify with Kris
Kris is yellow to be racially ambiguous so anyone can identify with Kris
Kris is they them to be gender ambiguous so anyone can identify with Kris
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>>572734128
gaster is not green, gaster is white. but the theory is that he have green accessory, just like how Sans and Papyrus have blue clothes and a red scarf.
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>>572734128
Nausea
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>>572734039
Those whiteboard links are correct
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>>572732324
where's the whiteboard/magma links?
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>>572734304
They’re posted in the thread for everyone to see silly goose
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>>572734152
It's because Asgore is FAT
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>>572734304
>>>/v/
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>>572734039
>>572732448
are the current whiteboards, only ~3 or 4 people have expressed wanting to remove the wiki so you'll have to ask the artists and the anon running it what they wanna do
>>572734304
they're posted every thread and new ones are only posted here, shitter
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I love fish
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>>572734128
The file selection UI in chapter 1 is green and Ralsei the mystery prophecy fucker is green and Sans is blue and Papyrus is red so Gaster is probably some color as well and green is a color
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haha do you guys remember Spamton he was so funny and silly
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>>572734390
Only available through a Dark Fountain
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>>572734390
A baiting retard made the thread, the links are right here >>572732448
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>>572732959
options on the right are ones Kris wants to do, and options on the left are idiotic commands from the player
kris wants to complain about her fucking sans all night while they couldn't sleep, while players are overly concerned about being locked out when that was just something said to Susie and not even a check description of the door
the left options in this chapter have been degrading into dumb bullshit like "gotta smell good" and "StOPP HER!!1" or "my happy ending is with Ralsei"
>but the weird route stop and proceed positions...
that's right.
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>>572734325
>Kris is yellow to be racially ambiguous
That's actually a common racist coloration for East Asians, but nice try.
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SUBSCRIBE TO THE GASTER GREATEST GONER GRINDSET TODAY FOR AMAZING SELF IMPROVEMENT RESULTS
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>>572733948
>PetalMantle
Nah, Kris is gonna use it to brew some socrates-style tea like their dancestor.
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>>572734304
How are they expecting OP to know links if they're not posted in the thread, then?
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>>572734283
Why are your eyes like this?
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>>572734039
I'm not a pippins hater, just one poster. But I think the pippins wiki should be removed, if anybody wants to show interest in pippins they'll just draw more pippins and post it in the thread anyway. The whiteboard can stay obviously
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late for the first day of class
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>>572734285
me too
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>>572734464
wtf
thank you
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>>572733926
And if you went to your school with her in the morning wouldn't it be weird if she brought you that late and then your own teacher acted like being late was one of your quirks and not something kind of just imposed on you?
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>>572733246
*only hot
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>>572734441
Spamtong? The Big Shot guy? Phew that takes me back, wasnt that covid days? A lifetime ago
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>>572734494
...god dammit no you're right, Kris is just going to fucking eat them isnt he, that's his out
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>>572734549
I wanna get this lil blue nigga pregnant
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>>572734441
[AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!]
KRIS!! GET ME OUT OF THIS [THREE DOLLARS]!!
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>>572734404
ten foot belly the fatass man...
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>>572734039
Pippins are /utg/ culture and they should stay
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>>572734468
>options on the right are ones Kris wants to do, and options on the left are idiotic commands from the player
That so?
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>>572733040
>>572734285
Seconded
>>572734558
Thirded
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>>572734468
>options on the right are ones Kris wants to do, and options on the left are idiotic commands from the player
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>>572733040
Just trying to ignore the sinking feeling in my chest.
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I love pirate gaster
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Spamton sweepstakes was Deltarune at it's peak, chapters 3 and 4 still held the bar nearly as high, but with chapter 5 something in me thinks it's all downhill from here.
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This new brewing ragebait at the start of the thread is retarded
Fucking post faves
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okay what the fuck
tourists you can be here but you can't vandalize the thread/OP
you can't just start deleting links
genuinely fuck off if you're going to be like this
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whiteboard is essentially a discord already

usernames, avatars, chat etc

they use it to complain about the thread as if it were private though
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>>572734724
Nobody likes your retarded Chapter 3-era OCs you fucking faggot, holy shit
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Why didn't Frisk just stab the ground at the start and get an army of Floweries? Were they stupid?
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I'm genuinely depressed and suicidal I'm going to sleep and if I wake up to the Pippins wiki gone from the OP again because of this dude I think I'm cracking my skull against the wall
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If The Knight created the Chapter 4 Dark World then the Knight can't have been a Kriselle fusion because they never had Gerson as a teacher to have the memories to make a Gerson Dustner out of right
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>>572734740
Deep down Kris still wants Noelle. As a friend, as a peon, as a lover, he doesn't care, he wants her back.
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>>572734472
Toby himself said he made the Human Yellow so they would be ambiguous like the Simpsons
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Why doesn't Kris just stay home and beat off all day like a regular teenager does
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>>572734740
'fraid so
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>>572734842
the whiteboards don't have any usernames, avatars, or chat. I know you're just trying to do the same dogshit you did with the artists from chapter 2. sorry bud, you're a predictable creature.
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>>572734468
>Perish over bosom on right.
>Gotta Win! on right.
I feel like their has to be a contradiction of this somewhere. I guess the festival choice at the end of Ch.2 has Susie as the top choice, but being 4 options is different than left and right.
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>>572734842
There are no usernames, chat or avatars in whiteboard retard its anonymous
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>>572734965
Kris is a nullo.
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>>572734039
keep pippins wiki
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Tastes like chickem
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>>572734896
Anon we have the pippins wiki link forevermore pls make some tea
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>>572734947
can we not
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>>572734831
I dont think its tourists, or at least NEW tourists, they were trying to cut shit out of the op a couple months ago too
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>>572733040
Feeling good about Deltarune Chapter 5 being so good and the Japanese fan-art is starting to come in so I'm happy about that
I ate too many donuts and now I have a tummy ache
Thinking of getting Chained Echoes but I've heard mixed things so I might just save my money and buy Desktop Explorer later this month
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>>572734468
>still doing the "Kris thoughts/our thoughts" headcanon
>8 fucking years later
All text options are things Kris is thinking. The stuff they don't like (Berdly options, options they know don't make sense, rude stuff, weird route) are intrusive thoughts we force them to act on
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>>572734312
why are homosexual men so gross and nasty with their fetishes
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Is Deltarune ch5 problematic medias?
You can only look at Flower's flirtatious remarks in 1 of 2 ways:
He is an adult who made inappropriate comments and had unsolicited contact towards 2 minors, Ralsei and Susie
He is a kid(based on Asriel) who flirts with Asgore, an adult man(who he might see as a father).
Either way that's hecking problematic of Tobert what was he thinking? Incest again?
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>>572734896
pippinsfags are painfully underage
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>>572734801
>COMPLETE THE MISSION GIVE ME THE SHELTER CODE autism vs. "bangin' sermon my man"
yup
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>>572734568
Kris is already almost a grown-ass fuck, they can be responsible and walk to the school by themselves
Is mommy also supposed to drive Kris to college after they graduate?
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>>572734843
>angy
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>>572734896
whoa so real
>>
if you don't love fujo you shouldn't be here genuinely
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Why does Kris like Susie so much? What's the appeal?
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Is this a temshart raid?
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>>572734283
>>572734517
>>572734728
>>572734947
>>572735160
WHO EVEN IS THIS GUY
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>>572734820
I love faves.
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>>572734568
I think if I kept fucking around in my room when my mom was clearly ready to go it would be my fault yes. Toriel should have barged in to get Kris dressed but she probably was trying to respect their privacy a bit.
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>>572735006
t. Gasterpeepeedrawer0690
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>8 years later still mogs every other chapter ost
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>>572735093
>Poor antchrist, we force him to be nice to elderly instead of trying to end the world like he wants!
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For me, it's Noel (Chapter 5 schizo edition)
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>>572735226
a fag
just report and ignore
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>>572735226
looks like down syndrome Seth MacFarlane
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>>572735204
Purple
Funny
Big cock
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>>572735204
he's still got the image of her Ch1 self in his mind even though by this point she's nothing like that
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>>572735204
scary women make kris aroused
dess
susie
mew mew (the flirts were real)
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>Kris gets mad if you try to talk shit about Susie, or hears people talking shit
>Or does not want to demoralize, or hurt her in general, many things also seem to imply a little crush
>Somehow has no problem with the options we pick towards Ralsei either, even if extremely fucking gay, but also seems to not have issues being weirdly harsh, like with the "good, keep smiling"
>With Noelle he is avoidant, but also has no problem going along with some choices, and getting along with her, despite how they let things turn cold over the years
>Extremely protective of her if we go too far, at least when he is allowed to exert some control
What is Kris' deal? Why is he such a goddamn whore?
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>>572735294
I wish he'd fuck my face.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCgLaX-T_TU

Peak
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>>572735093
>All text options are things Kris is thinking.
Sans and Alphys dialogue options firmly disprove it. 33% of the options come purely from SOUL, 33% from the narrator (who isn't Kris, btw).
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>>572734801
Kris is a wigger
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>>572735038
I've never heard that term before and I won't look it up because I'm scared that it means what I think
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>>572732463
i thought the whole point of toriel's character ever since undertale was that being a mom was a huge part of her identity and that led to constant inner turmoil due to the fact she wasn't a very good mom, why does toby feel the need to further exacerbate the problem of every single character in his games being a woobie just because people who grew up with shitty parents instantly turned on toriel when she acted like a shitty parent?
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Life-size Tenna plush doll...
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>>572735291
Like a good 40% of that is on him tbqh.
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Drawfags are cancer. They start to think they are idols or some shit, start behaving like divas.
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>>572735372
Kris is a teenage boy
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this general had threads deleted for less
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DAH?!?!?
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God forbid a mom has fun once in awhile and her manchild crotchspawn devil has to care for itself.
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>>572735294
HOLY SHIT that thing is hot
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i love being chinese and living in china!!!
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>>572735294
I can assure you if Noelle was a guy all the essays and thinkpieces would be about him being a chud who goes mask off in the weird route or some retarded shit like that.
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>>572735408
aren't these from that tasquefag life story dossier?
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>>572735668
>MAN YOU NEED TO FIND A NEW HOUSE FOR CAM
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>>572735490
I don't think reiterating the fact that Kris lied about being locked out to manipulate Susie is woobification
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>>572735294
he's hotter as a boy
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>>572735372
stop reposting this every thread
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>opens thread
>closes thread
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>>572735079
greedy little donut anon...
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>>572735685
Kris BTFO
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>>572733346
My King...
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>>572735632
They come super humble and friendly, drawing what people want, trying to attend everyone, then they start to think they are better than everyone

They draw what they want, when they feel like it, they wanna get their balls licked for just existing 24/7

Look what whiteboard became because of drawfags, a huge hugbox of the same 4-6 fags drawing their OCs over and over again to the point it became ridiculous and they fucked off to discord.
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>>572732463
for all the things ive pinned on Toriel, I dont think I ever brought up Kris being locked out only that she didnt call him at any point. I assumed from the start kris was lying about the door or not having a key because he very clearly wants to take Susie to the church world. Barely a minute after the door he was making the most obvious lie of "uhh yeah glass planes absolutely have steel in them, yep cant break em" which affirmed that to me
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>>572735758
she's woobified by having a hangover instead of tanking her binge drinking
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>>572735731
Yeah you can find it on Reddit and Youtube.
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>>572733040
Unfocused.
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>>572735204
Loyal
Purple
Will give you rides to school and eat your enemies
Knows all the YTP quotes
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Post your Deltarune hot takes
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>>572735786
You must be talking about someone else, cause that was my first time making such a post. I'm not around very much.
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>>572735204
Dess clone, but purple dino
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>>572735135
That's a choice they could make, but Toriel is still giving herself the role of being the one to take them to school. It's like you could do your own laundry but so can your mom, and if your mom is just completely fucking it up the blame is on her. Like here she says its time for Kris to get up for school time, and she's fucking it up clearly as Kris is already late for school. It also just shows a lack of care of Toriel that she doesn't even suggest this agency to Kris when her managing it always makes them late.
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>>572735478
Basically the same thing as this character have going on:
https://happytv.fandom.com/wiki/Smoothie
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>thread quality drops when there's less mewposters
i am nyahticing...
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>>572735758
that isn't what i was talking about
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>>572735490
Brainlet bro its telling the viewer that Kris lied about not having a key to Susie so they would go to the church.
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>>572735931
Susie does not wear a bra
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>>572735931
I like Undertale callbacks, they make me feel like a weird gay teenager again.
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Why is utg so gay?
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JARONA
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>>572735587
>it's real
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>>572733040
Aroused
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>>572733381
During the screen transition between the hallway and the classroom, Kris throws the soul into a locker and shambles off to create a fountain or something off screen before coming back and pretending nothing happened.
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>>572735931
I think Swatchlings are an underrated format for making OCs off of because of their simplistic geometric designs and the fact they come in a range of different colors.
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>>572735931
I don't like Asriel at all. I'd like to make him go away. He just bothers me.
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Who's the biggest gigachad, Gerson or Flowery?
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>>572735772
Evil cute boys bring me life
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>572735632
>572735840
Least obvious samefag
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>>572736029
UTG stands for U Turn Gay
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>>572735931
undertale areas in deltarune chappy 7 inside the bunker when that gets opened
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>>572735685
Alcohol is never "good".
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>>572735840
the discord, the one you're own, is the only /utg/ discord that exists, the shitposter anti-art discord
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I was half interested in using the whiteboard at some point but seeing this thread I think imma pass.
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the problem with Tenna and Spamton was they dont have big tits
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>>572735478
It means they have no genitals, just a featureless crotch, like a barbie/ken doll.
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>>572732324
>"Asgore, play with me/read books with me etc."
>"I'm busy investigating a girl's disappearance, I'm a cop"
>"Waaaaaah, you never spend any time with us, you're obsessed with your stupid thing"
>"You're right, I've been hurting my loved ones"
Did a woman write this shit?
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>>572735252
Even if the player speedruns out of the door they will be late to school. Kris doesn't even get dressed seemingly or shower, so getting up and getting in the car is all the events that transpire.
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>>572736067
I'd drink Aqua's nectar
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>>572735931
While Flowery is a well-done character, I still prefer Queen or Tenna over him as the episode antagonist.
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>>572736086
I have good news.
He's not in the game.
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>>572735951
>>572735361
I can see it
But the fuck did Dess do to that little psycho to get him so attached?
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So, what this flowery fag wanted Kris to prove is that he really cares for Asgore, right?
What do (you) think about that anon, does he?
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>>572735931
Some theorists get really angry when you mention Kriselle Knight. This only makes me more certain I am right.
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i wish i could feel loved and safe again says fave
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>>572735956
Never forget, Chapter 5 Weird Route Kris has struggling VISUALLY with our control. Normally he has reactions others can see but not us, but this time its VERY VISUALLY CLEAR he is struggling to WALK.
And Toriel doesnt say a GOD DAMN WORD ABOUT HIM WALKING OUT THE DOOR. HE IS SO CLEARLY IN TROUBLE TO ANYONE WATCHING AND SHE DOES FUCK ALL.
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All the fetish tranny weirdos are going to ruin this game
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>>572736067
What do you think she has under there? Has she ever seen a pussy?
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>>572735103
Huh?
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Flower Kris
Flower Kris
He is watered with piss
The soul insists
He rips it out and slits his own wrists
Only knight
Knows his plight
Against soul he will fight
Hero's light
Drink all the water in the pool
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>>572735135
Toriel is a teacher at the school. If she's not waking up Kris until after she's also late for work, that means she's already fucked up her own responsibilities as well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXd0Hqxzl_0
FRIEND's theme?
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>>572736090
Flowery may know the dirty tricks, but Gerson's skill and reaction time are just too good.
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>>572735931
Vs. Susie isn't that great, it has a really weak vibe compared to most of the other songs even from that same chapter
The guitar soundfont it uses also sucks
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>>572736282
mostlys
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>There are 16 /utg/s on the board
>the last thread has barely over 800 replies
Newfags I hope you're happy
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>>572736274
I meant Ralsei. That's how much I don't like him, I forgot his name.
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>>572736282
They all knew Kris as a child, so they've noticed that he's become completely different. Flowery knows they made the Dark Fountain. He was gauging Kris' intentions.

I think Kris' feelings are very complicated. They must, deep down, but they are obsessed with whatever happened.
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>>572736157
No anon pls dont leave at least play tic tac toe with me ill wait for you
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>>572736068
That could be an explanation.
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>>572735471
>Sans and Alphys dialogue options firmly disprove it
How? Sans says he never met Kris before but sans is known to stretch the truth and we don't actually know what Kris knows. "Good to see you again" could very well be foreshadowing. Also if youre saying "lost sleep because of Susie" can't be a Kris thought Alphys herself points out the potential double meaning there and Kris is a little gremlin, there are tons of absolutely ridiculous and sarcastic things Kris is perfectly willing to say if we let them
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>>572736090
Flowey goes to fight even though he knows he's going to die
Gerson lets the Fun Gang almost die before showing up (coward) and gave Susie and Kris bad advice leading to their homelessness and double suicide respectively
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>>572735951
Why did Kris like Dess so much? She was a mean bitch
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>>572736282
There's no way to know until we get the full picture of what's going on.
He prepared the dark world in Ch3, and stopped his mom from being able to take Susie back via car, so Undyne being captured instead might have been completely accidental.
Meanwhile with Ch5, there's no goddamn way he wasn't aware his father was going to be kidnapped, so be just allowed it.

Unless whoever got captured is perfectly safe, or the end result of whatever it is he's trying to do isn't gonna result in them getting hurt, or dead, and he is perfectly aware of it, he is a goddamn sociopath so far.
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Why'd the fat goat people adopt Kris
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>>572736474
There are 3
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>>572736601
Yeah but she's also swag.
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>one of Toby greatest strengths it's his music
>decides to invite others to make the music for his game
is he stupid?
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>>572736657
dinner
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>>572736601
Why did Asriel like Chara so much?
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>>572736341
Seth thought her that she is a "girl"

https://files.catbox.moe/6gg36u.PNG
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>>572736657
Too much love in their hearts for only one kid
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>>572732463
Gosh I hope I can make this post about Ralsei next year
>trannies who spent a year calling him a tranny need to apologize
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>>572736657
The Forgotten Man is Kris' dad, and he was a family friend of the Dreemurr's
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>>572736120
Tasque's whiteboard username is his discord tag.
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>AQUACULTURE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaculture
>AQUACULTURE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaculture
>AQUACULTURE
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>>572736717
The DINER
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>>572736445
it's a snippet like flashback. we'll hear the full song when we have to stop her in order to seal the castle town fountain.
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>>572736272
I feel similarly. I loved flowery but there's just something about tenna that is just absolutely perfect. Maybe it's his curves? His charm? His 480i picture quality?
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>>572735848
actually, stained glass windows sometimes do use steel bars as supports.
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post yfw when we get to chapter 7 and
>gaster does not appear
>the narrator is not explained and just says some shit like "well done" before it cuts to credits
>the soul is never explained and kris just lives with them now
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>>572736378
She teaches the younger kids, it's very likely she has class later than the high schoolers
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>>572735931
It mixes metaphors way too hard and as a result whatever message it's trying to convey about fiction/escapism makes barely any sense anymore unless it's predominantly positive
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>>572732324
>doerapefag changes the template and deletes magma links
as expected
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>>572736657
Because Asgore didn't want Tori to knock him up a second time
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>>572736601
Kris grew up being treated like glass and must have gotten sick of it. Dess definitely didn't baby them and she was the "cool" girl to boot.
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Am I stupid? When was the King's chariot unable to be stopped?
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>>572736763
heh
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>>572736910
yes, you're stupid
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>>572736910
other monarch
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>>572736341
A very tight flower
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>>572736842
the magma's worth should be investigated given its allowance of the earlier doe autist who'd shit across the entire whiteboard
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>>572736910
Queens*
its just a reference to her car bumping all the other cars out of the way
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How do you feel about Carol
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>>572736759
We don't claim him doomersis
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>>572736910
Queen's*. She has a car that knocks away other cars.
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>>572736718
BHC
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>>572736910
QUEEN
HAS
OBVIOUSLY
GOTTA BE QUEEN
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>>572737004
who
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>>572735103
cuz they got rapeds by a fat man
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Aww, shucks! (said for corn reasons)
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>>572736067
Understandable
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>>572732463
>Toby does damage control for Susie in ch6
>Susie helps Kris romance Berdly
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>>572737004
Good
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Imagine what the racial politics on the Deltarune internet between humans and monsters would be like. There are probably forums in Deltarune that make /pol/ look progressive and tolerant.
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>>572735931
Norm did nothing wrong
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goatboy uses a spell he doesnt know!
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>>572735931
Carol being mean to Susie is 100% justified if you take the tunnel vision off and realize that in context she has every right to be upset about the town hooligan poking around her house and playing with her possibly dead daughter's stuff.
Would be like if the town delinquent came to your house and started fucking around with the family suicide gun.
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>>572736816
OFF TO HANG MYSELF (but not before shitposting about it with my buddies on 4chin)
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KRIS
THAT HORRIBLE DAY
THAT HORRIBLE DAY THAT HAPPENED IN NEW YORK IN 2001
I CANT EVEN SPEAK OF IT
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its over
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>>572736789
The way I see it, the less scrupulous your antagonist is, the more you can do with them. Flowery is a careful balancing act because he has to still be a good guy. Tenna is good deep down but also a little cuckoo and a bad boss, and that just makes him really fun to watch.
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>>572736167
it's hard to say without getting a better picture of dess
there are ideas
that she had traits kris wanted to emulate
that they may have had similar personalities and could bond over similar interests
i've always liked the idea that dess taught kris a little bit of piano, kris obviously has very strong feelings around the piano and that may tie back to dess
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it's the bunkercord again isn't it
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HERE I
HERE I COME
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>>572737004
I want to give her a bath nonsexually (sexually)
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>>572737008
That ain’t dimmadoom.
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>>572737086
is that… a fully-modeled…
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>>572736893
>Both of their first kids are carbon copies of how they were at that age
>the second ones act like the opposite

Why does this feel realistic?
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>>572737141
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>>572737161
given that this is the most likely outcome I really hope you're not planning to actually do that
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>>572735294
That's just Dess
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What emotion is this meant to convey
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>>572737141
he knows it very well
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>>572736445
>>572736765
This, hoping it's something like EXP but with non-shitpost instrumentals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Bgiho09Vg
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>>572736812
Is it sandwiched in the middle of the glass or is it like a frame? Because I took
>"What? The parts between the stained glass are steel?"
As sandwiched, otherwise I dont actually see how this stops it from being an option. Just crawl between them? Or rip them out, you have a dino with both retard strength and hobo strength surely you could do something with that
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>>572737328
yea...
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you can only kiss one Kris
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>>572737141
Except he does know it, he has known the whole time.
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>>572737176
I wonder how much of deltarune's fanbase was even alive for 9/11, let alone remembers it
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>>572737152
All Carol wanted to do was keep her daughter safe and pleasure herself with Kris. Is that so wrong?
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>>572737134
Race relations seem generally fine in Deltarune. People's races even between monsters aren't brought up super often but it's usually pretty casual when it is.
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Revived my old weapons spreadsheet from last year:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ef-WlF0YF7YD97J5OYOxIQgIjbg11XvDm1v8vtcCxgs/edit?usp=sharing

Also made a new one for consumable items:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10B1vidCQWR1OKxX9MdGEXY8cpoaAh0SCU389PD8hN34/edit?usp=sharing

May add some more features, optional pages that could be expanded etc.

Hope some of you find these useful / interesting, ping me if you spot any errors or deets I missed
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It's interesting how Flowery's voice conveys a wholly different type of "annoying dipshit" in English and Japanese
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why do people think Dess is mean/like Susie is this in game or from the sweepstakes I don't remember
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>>572732448
>terrible weather outside
>terrible weather in the thread
it’s like some king of fire, grave.
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>>572737328
A good fucking number of them, that's what, you fucking autistic inhuman alien.
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>>572737328
>"Sorry, I'll come back later"
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Best boss
Best fights
Best gamplay gimmick
Best soundtrack
Best environments
Best character development
Best ending
Biggest tearjerker
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>>572737328
This is such a fuckass stupid expression, it's so fucking dumb
I kek out loud every time I see it
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>Kris betrays the gang at the end of Chapter 6 after We're revealed
>We play as the Vessel in Chapter 7, leading the gang back to Kris so we can save him before he dies
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>>572737432
Snowdrake is openly racist and everyone love him
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>>572737328
>I have lost all hope. I am going to kill people and then myself
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>>572737398
I went to school that year. That said, I'm not American, so I found out about it much later.
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>>572737134
Post-pacifist Undertale might be worse. Their entire species is weaker than a single human but if they're around even one human dying they can quickly snowball into being an undefeatable god. "The Enemy is Both Strong and Weak" but true and absurdly so.
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>>572737487
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>>572737452
he sounds far more faggy in japanese
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>>572737073
Spamton would never drain my money rod and semen wallet with his couch-sized ass without my consent.
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>>572737372
B... BUT... BUT I WANNA KISS ALL THE KRISES...!!!
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>>572737398
I wasn’t
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>>572734468
cool idea but this scene disproves that. if you select the option on the right, he yawns so it doesn't go through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vmTiNm8fQ
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>>572737509
I've been on "Playing as Susie to go save Kris before their epic suicide quest leads to their epic suicide" train since chapter 3 but I'll take this as well
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>>572737398
i was four years old
no memory of it, i don't think i even knew it happened until i was 9
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>>572737457
>*Noelle, cast snowgrave on the town
>*Okay.
>Noelle lowers the local temperature by 14°F
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>>572737328
I think its literally floweys
: )
face he does before his omega fight
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I kekked so hard when he did BATTLE DOOOME line in Japanese

CHOU EKUSAITINNNN
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>>572737328
Gold!
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>>572737372
I'll trade one kiss voucher for two headpats
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Kris is going to make dinosaurs extinct again in chapter 6
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>>572737456
Because she's a tomboyish older sister that would smack Kris with a wiffle bat, as an older sibling would do.
Basically Dess is Rodrick.
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>>572737509
>Kris stands up after dying
>Winks at the camera.
>"Hope I didn't Delta-RUIN your day out there, Theys and Thems!"
>The Fun Gang laugh
>Gaster appears
>"It...is...time..."
>"TO PARTY!!!!"
>"It's Hip To Be Square" by Huey Lewis & the News starts playing as the entire cast come out for a dance party
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>>572736268
Being forced to drink her nectar as she sits on my face with a knife on my throat
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>>572737683
Maybe, it does look a bit uncanny
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>>572737487
you described chapter 4 and then posted a pic of flowery and ralsei. why?
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>>572737659
and if you select the noelle one in the hottub they jump in the water after saying "dont"
just because kris prevents themself from saying it doesn't mean it isn't what they're thinking. do you want to always say what you're thinking???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9vHl7PKuQ
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Aquaposter is Alphys
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>>572737843
You like climbing more than the platforming?
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>>572732406
i agree with that last one 999% deltarune is cool but the fans and the community toby actually associates with (tumblr) are all retarded
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>>572737807
Would be funny if that was the end of Weird Route.
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>>572737659
People have been pushing the "left/right position indicates what Kris wants" thing since the very very beginning and its never held up to a minute of scrutiny
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>>572737669
I was like, almost 2, no memory, I remember finding out about it when I was in like grade 2 or 3. My brother had a school project on it or something, and he had a newspaper with a colour photo of the explosion.
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>>572737807
I die everytime there is a dance party in movies
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>>572737398
I wasn't either
And even if I had existed back then not like I would've remembered because I don't live in the US
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>>572737848
>themself
>???
aiyo
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>>572737918
That makes it hotter
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>>572737782
binch
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>>572737807
>EVERY DELTA RUNE NOW
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I'm getting tired of Kris getting in my way
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>>572737328
ragebaited by friends
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does anybody remember the sans VS Ralsei theory?
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>>572737918
Alphys gets put on the sex offender registry in chapter 6
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confess your sins
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>>572738016
my bad, they/themselfves**
faggot
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>>572737398
I was 3.
I remember seeing a building on TV, but not remembering any context.
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>>572738068
>Chara
>Literally kills you, jacks your soul and takes your save file
Dawg Chara makes Kris look like a 9 to 5 office drone
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>>572737432
Hometown is racially pure barring Kris. And the how to take care of humans book is like the equivilent of "How to take care of black children as a white person"
There is no way racial relations arent fucking crazy in this world.
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>>572738154
She was really just looking at porn in class in the first chapter
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>>572737843
>chapter boss
doesn't really even have one
>fights
titan was easy, gerson was mechnically mid, jack's fight was the best but hardly #1 territory
>gimmick
Climbing is good, but platforming is better
>soundtrack
pretty good, but 5 is better; sunset of seven suns beats both sanctuary tracks
>environments
there's not really much in the way of environmental diversity in chapter 4
>character development
close, but not as significant as chapter 5's, especially in the relationship between kris and susie
>ending
I mean, the music was good... but chapter 5's was just transparenly better. absolute tearjerker
>tearjerker
not really at all
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>>572738068
Reminder that twisted sword has Trance down, so equipping it might just allow Kris to keep getting in our way even more, if not outright break free.
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>>572737848
Why do you insist that the SOUL does not have a say on what to speak? It's kinda nonsensical, don't you think? It;s much more likely that SOUL have influence on Kris beyond directional inputs. There are multiple time when facial expressions or body language comes from SOUL, not Kris.
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!! ALPHYS IS NOT A CUNNY POSTER!!! ALPHYS IS A BASED CHAD /SS/ POSTER!!!!!!!!! I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS SLANDER!!!!!!
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>>572737328
he is about the snap
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>>572738132
I remember
I don't think anyone was expecting the Fun Gang to start to kind of tolerate him
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>>572737573
>>572737993
I was a teenager so I heard about it, but there's a bottleshop in my state called 9/11. It was probably a solid week of me thinking that a liquor store got blown up.
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I feel like chapter 2 made us think we were gonna get a way more fun game than we actually did.
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>>572738160
I want Tasque Manager to take a big steaming fiber optic cable shit on my face
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>>572736616
That's a non-answer fence sitter anon, what do YOU think, does or does he not?
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If it came down to it, who would win in a fight, Kris or Susie?
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Flowery Deltarune vs Monika DDLC who wins?
wait nevermind, they're having aggressively hot sex
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Rory Knight pls turn off Cheat Engine
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>>572738387
how did the objectively worst chapter convince you of that?
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Climbing was OK but the Chapter 5 Climbing was way cooler than the Chapter 4 Climbing
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>>572735931
There are a lot of soulless human bodies underneath the town, and whenever two Dark Fountains are opened close to each other, it's enough for one to crawl to the surface filled with pure dark determination. This is what a Titan is. Pic utterly unrelated.
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>>572737980
There are basically NO dialogue choices that Kris "wants" to do. No matter how much you try, (You) can't be Kris. "Kris playthrough" is not possible, even if you try very hard, it will be just "You LARPing as Kris on assumptions", and not "Kris".
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>>572737935
the platforming was cool but it didn't really hit because chapter 5 overall was so blase. for me, interesting mechanics don't mean much if they don't tie into the story well, at least for a story-based rpg like deltarune
the climbing was way better/more "surprising" because i was so invested in the story. when the screen flipped in chapter 5 i just went "oh, neat," and went zombie mode, it didn't really feel like anything
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>>572737939
>waaaah their not chud's like meeeee
Make a funny necktie
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>>572738408
Susie in the light world

Kris in the dark world
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>>572738408
Susie would win in a fair fight, but Kris would have some trick up their sleeve.
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>>572738387
I'm like susie, I wish we got more fun adventures... People need to make more hypothetical one-off chapter fan games.
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Undyne and Asgore gonna arrest this thread and everyone in it ngl.
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>>572738160
I call Kris he/him on here and they/them when talking to my friend circles because I truly believe and stand by nothing
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>>572738251
you have recency bias or devastatingly shit taste

>>572737969
>its never held up to a minute of scrutiny
so like 99.9% of ""theories"" (glorified headcanons) here
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>>572738408
Depends on how tired Kris is
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>>572738387
Yeah the chapter that was just a tunnel with cutscenes and such fun distractions as "Maise on balloons minigame" and "Acid River house puzzles" didn't prepare us for a full 2D action platformer
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>>572738407
He does, but he cares more about getting whatever the fuck is going on off his chest compared to that.
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>want streamer to get the fuck on with the game but they're spending hours trying to get sub 20 seconds in the castle town climbing game
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>>572737681
>berdly somehow still dies
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>>572738281
>Why do you insist that the SOUL does not have a say on what to speak?
i'm not insisting that at all?... kris has a large degree of influence on what we can make them do. they have way more free will than frisk did, even though they are essentially the same type of vessel.
our dialogue options are pretty damn evident when speaking with sans, so i don't know how anyone could insist we don't have a say in what kris speaks.
you're probably intending to say that to someone else.
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>>572738160
I like to play the game just for the cool new mechanics and fun character interactions and I don't really follow the lore too deeply or get into the theories or anything like that. I'm just having fun. My favorite character is Susie.
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>>572738672
>recency bias
"no"
>shit taste
"no you"
Chapter 4 was easily the most boring of them all.
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>>572738490
Undyne if she was big boss
>>572735931
Deltarune would have been unirocally better if mew mew was the main protag
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>>572738408
Susie would beat the shit out of him, but he'd still win by fighting dirty and stabbing her while trying to apologize or something.
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>>572738674
Kris is finally gonna get 8 hours of sleep before Chapter 7 and become an OP gigachad who will stop the Roaring and kiss all their love interests
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>>572737918
Everyone is an aquaposter deep down in their heart
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The wife who makes with blackened knife
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>>572738636
Not surprising seeing as you couldn't even stand by your gender
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>>572738759
based :D
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I got tricked by some anon, he said I could get 2 Thorn Rings, which is BULLSHIT
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>>572738408
I wonder if humans are still stronger than monsters in the deltarune universe
Kris beats her by a country mile in the dark world, either way
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>>572737969
Every theory that relies on this kind of thing falls apart. Same as the theory that all darkners represent a lightner (Queen is Carol!!1!! Flowery is Rudy!oen!!). It would be such a pain in the ass to have to develop a game under the kind of creative constraints these dumbs imagine are cool
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>>572734128
In the anniversary stream Toby showed misteryman's door as green in a joke, which people connected to "copies are monochrome" from mancountry, which brought people to believe the real misteryman is green too.
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>>572738492
I'm guessing you meant to reply to: >>572737969
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>>572738636
I do this but because I don't want retarded twitter fags speging out cause I """misgendered""" a fictional character who's a blatant self-insert perspective
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Purity check!
You can only proceed if you have never done any weird route garbage.

Only bad people force Noelle to kill or give her a thorny ring. Not to mention good people don't drown themself
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The Holidays seem like the type of family where they have small disagreements between themselves but if you seriously messed with any of them they would all lock in and beat the shit out of you
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>>572738867
>Mario music plays
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>>572738998
which fucking slut is he fucking?
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Does the Roaring Knight know anything about the Gaster followers or NormalNPC?
Seems like they should be more concerned about that guy than Susie.
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ralsei is such a fucking slut
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>>572739032
Mewsters never cease to make the most based posts on /utg/
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>>572738980
Kris is not a self-insert you dumb fuck that is the entire point. It's a misdirect, tricking you by making you think it's the same as Undertale when it's not
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>>572739032
if I pass, can I fuck MewMew?
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>>572738408
Susie is like 200 pounds and she's a dinosaur or something she could bite out Kris's trachea
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>>572739032
I actually still haven't done WR. But what I heard about it in Ch5 is really tempting me.
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>>572739130
Is it weird that I think the eyebrows add charm?
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>>572738998
>>572739128
why did you make the same post twice?
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>>572738980
You should call Susie a man and Ralsei a girl too to fight against Toby's agenda
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>>572738636
this is normal only people who care otherwise are insecure 15-18 year olds
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>>572735931
Dess is the most uninteresting character as of right now
I trust and enjoy Toby's writing abilities but I think he failed hard at justifying why I should give enough of a shit about her to solve the mystery, it feels like there isn't much in return for your investment in her unless you're a tomboy fetish fag
I hope my mind is changed by the upcoming chapters tho
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>>572738980
i do the same thing but not because i believe he's a self insert (not for US, anyway, he could be toby's). it's more like these people are very firm on what they believe and if you don't also believe in it you're basically trying to murder them so what's the point in wasting my breath
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>>572732448
if toby doesnt want to give us a self-insert character then we'll MAKE a self-insert character
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https://poal.me/owhgis
https://poal.me/owhgis
https://poal.me/owhgis
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Do you think the monsters of hometown think being nonbinary is a human thing or are they all woke?
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>>572739032
>Only bad people force Noelle to kill or give her a thorny ring. Not to mention good people don't drown themself

How do you know that happens?
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>>572739131
It was a misdirect in Undertale too. The entire point of the game was that when you get the best ending you find out the human is its own person and not whatever name you picked. Chara coming out is metaphorical for your will overwriting Frisk's.
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>>572739283
>this is normal only people who care otherwise are insecure 15-18 year olds
oh anon...
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>>572739069
kris
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One thing I WAS expecting was to get some more info about was the Thorn Ring since it's a rose's thorn and this is the Flowery zone and Kris got the second Thorn Ring off of the rose Asgore gave them
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>>572739379
Flowey is still the best Toby Fox character
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>>572739135
Eh? But you and Mew Mew don't know each other that well.

Hm, ok, you can touch her breasts for ten seconds if you are good pure boy.
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>>572738806
True
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Theory for what Trance Down means.
>"... an illusion."
>"The Dark Fountains change everything into a fantasy."
>Illusion and trance are kind of similar as altered mental states and are used somewhat like synonyms here.
>Trance Down means the illusion, the fake perception, is removed.
>This actualizes as turning Darkners back into their real objects but within the Dark World when they're struck enough with the blade.
>For Titans and such it's like Slay Dark on steroids.
>For the Knight, slashes will purify the darkness from them, either turning them back to Normal Dess, or maybe just turning them into a corpse or something that they are without the darkness.
>Even further out there, but maybe using it on Ralsei, is the only way to see what he is.
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>>572738374
Lol what a bizarre coincidence
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>>572739324
misc
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>>572739131
It's still written the way it is to allow immersion. Part of the whole juxtaposition is the feeling of how it should be you in control, then Kris does their own thing randomly.
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>>572736910
Queen's chariot, and if you look at the amount of things that Queen pilots or rides in the chapter and how generally powerful and unstoppable they are, you'll get it
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>>572739517
>Theory for what Trance Down means.
It's actually supposed to be "trans down" and let's you kill all trannies
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>>572739243
toby has never confirmed nor denied that kris is "nonbinary". he has however said that the player gender is meant to be ambiguous. in a perfect world this means people can have their male, female, and tranny (mtf ftm nb whatever bullshit) kris' and nobody steps on anyone else's toes but we don't live in a perfect world and trannies are insane control freaks
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>>572739379
Because you won't shut up about it.
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chapter 5 has aura and hype moments therefore it is the best chapter ion give a fuck about writing >>572739345
now excuse me as i listen to flower man for the 168th time
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Hey guys I'm really stupid what was the anime cat girl's deal again
Was she like, two people?
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So does Kris tell everyone offscreen they're a they/them or does everyone somehow magically intuit this information?
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>>572739130
She attracts posters who are pure of heart
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>>572732324
>-Fanart Archives
>>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba
The "Undertale Image Collection" link in this pastebin will go down ~5 days from now
It contains 280,000 pictures (124GB) of SFW Undertale and Deltarune fan art going up to 2022, majority Undertale, majority humans
If you want to download it you should do it now
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>>572739406
Him being a good flirt really gets me for some reason.
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>>572738408
I know he hesitated but Kris did win that clash with Omega Flowery. Also they're holding back like Ralsei as they're using pencil swords instead of Real Knife Sword.
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>>572739345
Sword Route is too tuff for me to pick anything but 3
Sorry Flowery
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>>572738636
It's my headcanon is that Kris use "they" because Kris wants to dehumanize self. In the end Kris will start to use "he" or "she".
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>>572739675
Play the game
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>>572739702
video game logic
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>>572739675
inside of you there are two wolf metaphor or some shit
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>>572739324
one more with outline because I'm starting to realize the missing pixels don't look good
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>>572739234
Large eyebrows have a real charm when they're on a girl's face. It adds a bit of authoritativeness, which men tend to find attractive in women.
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>>572739379
the bad people here in /utg/ always kept bragging how they "molested" that poor doe
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>>572739675
She's a ghost monster from the Light World possessing an anime cat girl doll. Because the doll is an object it's a Darkner too so they're sharing the body
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>>572739806
I did :(
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>>572739702
The Seth conversations in the diner seem to indicate that everyone in this universe just intuits and defaults to your preferred pronouns, even if they don't know that non-bino people exist
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>>572739674
It has some of the best character writing too honestly
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>>572739641
>he has however said that the player gender is meant to be ambiguous
When?
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>>572739379
kek
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>>572739032
I've only ever watched the weird route on videos or streams.
Because I'm too lazy to bother. It's only like 15 minutes of new content per chapter anyways.
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>>572739641
>player gender is meant to be ambiguous
has he said this about deltarune? as far as i'm aware that only applies to undertale.
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>>572739856
Play it normally, without skipping dialogue and speedreading
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>>572739746
If there's ever a Deltarune animated series, I hope they include a running gag where Kris just points at someone and they get swooned with hearts coming out
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>>572739852
Read this in MewMew's voice
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>>572739746
Kris has probably fucked the the entire class except for Snowy
That's why Snowy is so racist
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>>572735931
Toby can not possibly deliver on the pay off that he's been building up to with this game.
His schizoid fever dream probably only really makes sense to him in his own head and the actual ending for the game will piss everyone off.
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sex?
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>>572739131
>Kris is [headcanon]
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>>572740040
After Chapter 5, that's not a "hot" take.
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>>572740040
Deltarune's ending will be the ultimate filter between people with and without souls
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>>572739575
>It's still written the way it is to allow immersion.
True, and that applies to the art too. Kris is yellow so that the Japanese can insert as them. Toby would never have made them black because the Japs would hate it.
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>>572740040
Been saying this since chapter 1
Feel like the people bitching about chapter 5 not answering enough questions are going to be pretty fucking bummed when 6 and 7 only answer one or two things, there's a big boss fight and long ass walky talky sequence
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Kris failed the mission for not letting me have another Tenna. I have no allies who will let me dick down CRT ass like I came here to.
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>>572735931
Gaster is not and will not be plot relevant
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>>572739345
I replayed everything recently and chapter 5 is easily the best
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>>572739032
Sorry Pink, I started a WR on chapter 2, even if I never progressed it.
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>>572740204
But japs love Blue
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I play on the Switch so I just do Weird Route on another profile. Soulless Pacifist 2 ain't going to touch my ass.
Did the same with Undertale too, never gave Chara my soul and instead deleted the entire extra account.
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>>572740239
>Crusader of TV
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>>572740040
all he needs to do is tap into whatever the fuck he had going on when he created chapter 4 and i'll be overjoyed
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>>572737918
more than half of this thread is aquaposters according to a recent /utg/ census
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>>572740250
If I just played the game and never looked at any stuff online I would never have any idea who Gaster is
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>>572740291
Liking a black character=/=being comfortable inserting as a black character
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>>572738160
Not really a sin but I get so depressed looking at youtube channels I used to watch and they all just turn to shit, there are guys from less than a year ago who went off the rail for no reason. Not even just shitty political reasons, just being stupid or a lying asshat to make a quick buck
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>>572740259
TRUTHBLOOM!
Eight out of seven flowers agree!
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>>572740394
What would you think of the glowing voice?
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Hehehe....uuu...
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>>572739992
I want to be charmed and seduced by enby even if they're not being serious about it... (it's guaranteed to work on me)
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>>572740449
hot rapey sex between ralsei and flowery
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is my opinion based or cringe
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>>572739963
He never said that about Undertale either.
He called Frisk "androgynous" in the very first joke post about Undertale and I think he once said something about how their race is meant to be ambiguous (not necessarily in those words).
But he never said the gender was meant to be ambiguous and some people have been calling them nonbinary pretty much since UT's release. (Maybe even in the demo days but I don't have easy archives for that.)
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>>572740449
IMAGINE
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>>572739032
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>>572740139
Chapter 5 was the best chapter though?
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I highly doubt Susie doesn't know there's something up with Kris. She seemed suspicious that they opened the fountain in ch5 but quickly dropped the subject.
Susie has always shown to be more intuitive than she lets on. She's not book smart but she can read people quite well. I think she had the time to gradually piece together that Kris didn't always behave like that™ and that they're hiding something from her.
It just feels more like she doesn't know what to do about Kris being a double crosser. Like who is she supposed to tell? The cops? Besides their friendship was clearly real, so maybe she's hoping Kris changes their mind before the betrayal happens.
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>>572739675
Theyre a system, yes.
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>>572740291
The Japanese are so media interpretation averse that they literally see Blue as blue and not black because it's not stated verbatim.
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I wasn't sure if I was tracking the pronouns wrong when I played so I was just thinking Blue was a girl the whole time. Their relationship with Yellow mattered as little to me then as it does now.
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>>572732324
based edish
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>>572740595
Frisk's gender is unknown
Chara's gender is the same as (your) gender.
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>>572739746
If Agore and Toriel didn't divorce and Dess didn't die Kris would've become the rizz king
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>>572734027

Like, I told her, first of all, industry professionals do not use weird obscure websites like toyhouse, it's okay if you are an amateur or artist but if you actually apply for a position, even freelance, opsec (no, not that kind) is crucial. You do not want some rando to run with your concepts as writings are WAY harder to legally protect than art.

Second, I told her her vocab and sentence structure was not on level, that she best stays on the artist route as writing doesn't seem to suit her. Was I harsh and too much of a dick? Yes. Do I still stand by this judgment? Yes, but I could've been friendlier. In case you don't see why this is bad, I'm going to give a short example of how I write.

''In the frozen, hellish realm of Phlegethon, a primordial evil thousands of miles long steered. Some name him the doom lord of Envy, some name her Tiamat and others name Him Leviathan. A rose by any other name, what matters is what this arch-demon brought forth. Foul, winged reptilian beasts with wings that breathe fire and pure pestilence upon the lands of the humanoid races. Dragonkin! Amalgamations of the deadly sin of Envy! First generation dragonkin are fueled with a hatred for what they can't have. Happiness, natural beauty, love... The tallest tower can be built by smashing down all the others! I Do have good news for you though... You may be a dragon, but free will is your greatest asset. Will you prove your enemies right in that you are a demon, or will you resist and be a force for benevolence?''

This is how you do an intro!
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>>572737228
I can't imagine she would ever let someone else bathe her
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>>572740370
Everyone loves 30 year old murder cunny
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>>572740595
If you can read androgynous person and assume that means nonbinary, then anyone else can read androgynous person and assume that means it's ambiguous, unconfirmed, and they can make it whatever they want.
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>>572740652
it was self referential memeshit filler
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>>572734039
>wiki
we've had this discussion before, I think two months ago. most anons agreed that removing the wiki wasnt a good idea since it's just removing more content from the OP for the sake of trimming down the amount of text in each OP. the /utg/ op is the only place that you can find the link to the oc wiki because it's set to not appear in google searches. I don't think anyone except for the threadshitter actually care if it's in the op or not. granted, it's still a work in progress, I need to add more to it but work has been keeping me busy. I'll try to spend today working on it but I have some errands to run today
also, the wiki hosts the pippins art archive which is the closest thing we have to a drawfag art archive as of right now
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>>572739746
>factually great at flirting
>gets 0 bitches (male or female)
>closest thing to romance requires the soul FORCEFULLY doing everything against his will
>only people their age who like them even platonially are 2 lesbians dating each other
>even for Berdly he's his 3rd choice at best
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>>572740734
Cumming on Noelle’s tail
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Deltarune will connect to the internet in chapter 6. If more than 5% of players have a tainted save file, the save file of all players will become tainted
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Is there a single more detestable being on this planet than a chapter 5 defender?
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>>572740569
why did secret boss mew mew make you dislike her?
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>>572740760
Guys what if Catti had a crush on Kris
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>>572740809
proof? oh wait you have none lol!!!! get raped idiot!!!
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>>572739675
She's a Lightner/Darkner fusion.
Lightner identity - The ghost known as Mad Dummy in UT/??? In DR.
Darkner identity - Mew Mew
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Imagine Tenna being alive and seeing the news after the great drowning...
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>>572740652
it was filler and not even the good filler
i wanted filler that focused on actual characters
i did not want random flowers i don't care about. it should've been like one guy
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>>572740785
How would you feel if the game went down this road? The pic i mean
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>>572740259
>>572740479
>>572740652
4rded, it was great for both characters, music and gameplay.
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>>572740635
The thumbnail of the gif always makes me think Mew Mew is gonna punch the screen
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>>572740569
I need Swatch and Tasque Manager to fuck.
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what did you anticipate from chapter 5?
what did you hope for?
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>>572739883
As much as I liked the mentor teaching unruly youth dynamic between Gerson and Susie, Flowery and Ralsei were just a better written version of it. And that was like 90% of the character writing in chapter 4 while 5 had a lot of character growth and change for Susie and Kris too, not to mention how likeable all of the flowers were.
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>>572740734
What happened to Spry
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>>572740569
You fucking suck and I hate you.
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>>572740760
if anyone has played barkley gaiden these posts would make good save point dialogue in that game
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>>572741035
Got busy doing life things outside of art
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>>572740984
>anticipate
a fun adventure in a flower themed world
>hope for
some answers to deep lore questions
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>>572740370
>utg census
When?
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>>572740845
>Deltarune is connected to the internet and Toby will read all of your 4chan posts and craft you an ending based off that
nyo...
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>>572740886
>stop misusing the battat theme!
>first third of the dark world was a copy of chapter 1
>I bet this boss will have memorable music!
>recycled simpsons and family guy jokes
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Fave requires a butt glute massage.
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>>572740040
>building up to
don't mistake hype from waiting a lot of years with what's actually in the story. Deltarune is a simple mystery plot, almost a scooby doo episode, combined with a coming of age fantasy and with a bunch of extra nebulous ARG shit about Gaster and Friend. It's not A Song of Ice and Fire. There isn't that much to explain or reveal, though there is still a chance the dog fucks it up because every person on earth can do fuckups.
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>>572740749
Damn. Poor them.
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>>572741130
>>first third of the dark world was a copy of chapter 1
media illiterate.
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>>572740806
why do you guys keep saying aqua is 30
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Any other burgeranons finally get an email for their tennys?
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>>572740652
meta-jokes didn't land, and it left a hollow feeling after it ended. It lacked something that's not self-contained, especially considering the game is almost over. Noelle invite reveal was just weird (why do you invite a new party member when the game is already almost over? kinda too late, bro), and doesn't compare to the Knight or Titan reveals, or even Kris' soullessness reveal.
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>>572740652
If you dont care about characterization sure.
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>>572740569
>VVKhead
My man
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>>572741143
many faves are saying this!!
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>>572740913
I would be invested in the drama
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>>572740370
Oh yeah, the TOTALLY not botted strawpoll is definitely a reliable and accurated census!
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How do we feel about Seth?
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>>572740562
bottom flowery or it's cringe
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>>572741076
Due to gun's Barkley Gaiden is mandatory reading to be a primary Underrune fan so surely everybody here has played it
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>>572740749
nah, kris would be the stay-at-home husband for noelle
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>>572740562
top flowery or it's cringe
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Don't you LIKE serving humans?
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>>572741143
It would be rude to not help them
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>>572741279
I feel attraction towards Seth
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>>572740760
What an ugly subhuman.
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>>572740871
I thought she was cute but the more I thought about it, the more I felt she was just a needless cameo. There's not many characters that fit that category. I don't really dislike her but she's the closest.
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>>572741035
he stopped being lame and fucked off.
kind of wanted that too.
spry had the potential to draw really well, but chose the shittest stuff, pictures like picrel were the exception.
>>572740997
cool, not gonna read that, faggot.
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>>572741279
sex
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>>572741209
it was literally
>hey remember chapter 1?
>those sure were the days!
except in game it's only been 4 days since then so why the fuck would the characters be nostalgic for it
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>>572741283
>>572741340
power bottom flowery, he rapes ralseis cock with his ass
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>>572741279
Deep love, must bring on romantic dates to the librarby and read books together. When things get steamy we go to horticulture section and flip a book open to flower reproduction sections.
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>>572740892
>TWO YOUNG TEENS FOUND
oh no... don't let the aqua fans get their hands on them
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>>572741339
Kris would've started an orgy sex cult causing the deltarune worlds equivalent of America to go through a cult degeneracy panic
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>>572741421
>he thinks it was for nostalgia
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>>572741076
truckpump would assuredly be an aquaposter, but he would hate UTDR overall for being fake gaijin jrpgs
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"Hey Kris do you think you help me arrange these decorations for Noelle's welcoming party? I've got to help set up the marching band..."

>Susie my father got kidnapped by a demon.
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>>572740040
>probably only really makes sense to him
This will make me like Deltarune even more.
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>>572741383
why do i have purple fever.
all these lean-flavored cum-goddesses...

THEY MAKE ME ACT UP
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I assume it's common knowledge for people who'd post here, but I don't see anyone mention, or any videos show off, that Omega Flowery starts dealing percent damage (38% of your HP) if he gets you below half (automatically going to the QTE if he gets you to 1HP).
It's a pretty cool detail.
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>>572741421
Yeah, that also was kinda weird. For the most modern players who just bought the game Chapter 1 was hours away, why would they be nostalgic?..
Also most oldfag 2018 players think Chapter 1 was the weakest chapter, so they won't feel nostalgic anyway.
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>>572740881
>ran away from the demon summoning
Catti will forever be below Berdly on Kris's shit list.
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>>572741279
Son material, would raise
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>>572741279
i want to suck face with seth.
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>>572741279
Third best flower.
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>>572741450
no short tops
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>>572741571
Noelle and Kris' dad issues will make Susie talk about hers. Sans will do the same.
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>Aqua is based on Kris
>Seth may be based on Asriel
>Seth is the same character archetype as Alphys
>Kris dislikes Alphys greatly
Much to think about
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>>572740743
That's an okay headcanon.

>>572740808
You can make this work for Frisk and you can make it work for Chara if you interpret the they/them pronouns as non-diegetic.
For Kris it'd be wacky to go through so much effort to set them up as their own person with a distinctive identity separate from the player and then leave their gender up to player interpretation.
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>>572741616
So much for the anti loli moralfagging huh
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>>572741421
>>572741673
The chapter was a farewell to Deltarune as we knew it, to the pattern established by Chapter 1, as well as to the patterns established by Undertale. This is obvious. Are you retarded?
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>>572741643
You'd have to be particularly shit at the game to notice it so obviously no one here knows
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>>572741593
This. Everyone likes Evangelion, and that show had a bizarro ending.
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>>572741757
tags: small_but_hung
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>>572741148
This game was made to realize something Toby saw in a dream. You know that right?
We're not talking about who the Knight is. We're talking about what would compel a man to spend over a decade working towards an end goal.
I'm not sure any answer could be satisfactory to the average player.
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I LOVE SETH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>572741279
Made for bird dick
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>*doki doki*
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>>572741219
legal loli loophole
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>>572741816
Watch Chapter 6 being completely normal ICE-E Dark World
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>>572741549
>it was shit on purpose
epic 1 toby
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>>572741960
>Ralsei got Kris into collecting nerds
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>>572741771
Is Aqua really based on Kris? Because she looks more like she's based off the color blue
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Fave likes to sniff their own pillows because they like how they smell
is fave weird?
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>>572741937
welp kris time to start the roaring.
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Seth is a flat girl with a big rear.
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Gaster is green because Ivy Mike (roots) will nuke Hometown
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>>572741219
The flowers are older than Kris and ralsei
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>>572742008
>theme of sunset
>ends dark world by passing through gate reminiscient of the gate at the end of the ruins in undertale, signifying transition into unfamiliar territory, a new world
>"this can't just be our adventures anymore"
>chapter ends with closing the door
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>>572741219
She might not be 30 but she's as old as Asgore and Toriel's wedding atleast despite looking and acting like she's 8
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>>572740809
>referential
That's kinda kinda the point though? and it references other media more than itself
Probably meant to contrast with the suicide/matrix escape bullshittery going on in the Weird Route. You could even take it as some kind of commentary that most of the references are botched and that Flowery himself ends up failing at everything.
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>>572741816
It's also repeating a lot of the patterns from chapter 1 in order to contrast between how Ralsei and Susie acted in chapter 1 and 5 to show how they've changed and grown as characters since the beginning. But they wouldn't have understood that either.
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>>572741771
Asriel is an athletic giga chad who has fucked and sucked every girl in hometown that was in his age group though
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Deltarune is an experiment to see if Toby can force cis people to feel like trans people by forcing them into a body they don't want(Kris).
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>>572741771
Green is based on Asriel.
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>>572741816
Yeah it's a farewell to Deltarune by being the most derivative chapter so far. Maybe you're retarded
>>572742184
Susie being dumb as a brick and having a crush on Noelle was established a while ago and the trend only seems to be continuing
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>>572742112
>made to tank plaps.
blessed build
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so we have 3 timelines?

1 normal play
2 weird route
3 aborted route
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>>572742184
Or you could just let the character development speak for itself instead of contriving a repeat of chapter 1 to show it off.
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>>572741816
Toby already said that 6 is going to be a very basic and standard chapter which is why it will be easy to develop
Nothing new or interesting is going to happen
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I just jerked off to big butt aqua anal fanart again

said seth deltarune
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>>572741817
tbdesu I first noticed thanks to someone's stream, they died to Flowery a bunch and got hit thrice on the Omega part, with the third doing less damage, had to go refight him to be sure, since I didn't see it documented even on the wiki back then.
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>>572742353
But it did? The beginning of the chapter being a remix of chapter 1 is a thematic backdrop, it's not telling you directly why it's like that.
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>>572742153
>>"this can't just be our adventures anymore"
You would've have a point there... if Susie after saying that revealed Dark Worlds to Alphys, Napstablook, Carol, etc. She didn't.
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>>572742374
When did he say that lol
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Fuck my life I accidentally forgot that glass cracks under very quick and extreme temperature changes and made the glass I was warming up water in crack
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>>572741786
>For Kris it'd be wacky to go through so much effort
Using they/them is likely easier from a character writing standpoint as you don't have any preconceived biases in your head about how the character should, or shouldn't act.

>as their own person with a distinctive identity
Gender has nothing to do with Kris' identity; Kris' supposed "nonbinary-ness" never manifests beyond characters using they/them. There are no moments where Kris is presented with gendered options to deny based on their heckin' ~gender~. The game doesn't even go out of its way to erase binaries if there's not a way to do it without being obnoxious. Like if the town really knows Kris is nonbinary, then why don't they add some non-gendered options to their events? Why is it only king and queen, and not king, queen, and monarch?
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Chapter 5 felt like a hate letter to the fans who actually played the previous ones
It was tailor made for people who have only experienced Deltarune through memes
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>>572742012
Is that not what he was doing? I thought it was (and it was cute…)
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>>572733346
>>572733926
Does literally anyone like Toriel as an actual character instead of a vessel for porn? Every time /v/ tourists roll around all I ever see when fans post her is porn proportion art and not a whisper about her actual personality at all. If another chubby coded middle aged mom came along would they all jump ship?
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>>572741771
Nobody thinks much of the possibility that maybe Asriel grew up to become a fag <3
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>>572740562
>>572741450
>small healer top with glasses and anger issues
>older tall power bottom who's a cheerful prick living in denial and ragebaits the top with his ass
Reheated Spamtenna nachos
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>>572742484
This is hilarious to me
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>>572742578
skill issue
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>>572737457
Rudy is pretty cool
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>>572742504
>The beginning of the chapter being a remix of chapter 1 is a thematic backdrop, it's not telling you directly why it's like that.
Merely "being like that" feels like a contrivance regardless of whether or not the game gives an explanation for it.
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>>572742556
in the last newsletter
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>Eyes visually closed all the time.
>Seems to exemplify all the SOUL traits.
>7th human.
They're like Frisk right?
>Golden Eyes
This is Toby Fox making all the Japanese fanart of Frisk with open eyes canon.
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>>572742484
My KING....
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>>572742604
the azzy portrait on this one is really cute
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>>572742652
Nigga, did you just make a pun?
*hits*
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>>572741283
i feel like people think that having smaller cuter tops is still fresh and unique despite it being 2026 and this dynamic being as played out as the inverse
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>>572742314
>Susie being dumb as a brick
Been waiting for a payoff on this since like 4 chapters ago. She's stupid but she's perceptive enough, at some point they HAVE TO establish that she either noticed stuff and didn't want to say it, or has actively been in denial.
>and having a crush on Noelle
I dread the payoff on this though. Maaaan, you just know next chapter is gonna have some kind of heartbreak arc due to what happened with Noelle's dad and it's gonna be a SLOG.
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>>572742743
Frisk is Red, not Gold.
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>>572741816
the chapter will be gagshit
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>>572742314
it's a recapitulation and celebration you fucking moron. "one last fun adventure, before the dark clouds ahead"
>>572742374
that's not what he said in the slightest. he said the chapter will be easier to develop. that's it. your interpretation of what that means is retarded
>>572742514
she's revealing the secret to Noelle, which ends the "adventures of Kris and Susie." this is why Kris was so bummed at the end. fucking hell pay attention
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bros i think kris might be a girl
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>>572742484
Can we get a Catty version of this gif too
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>>572742585
>if there's not a way to do it
**when there's a way to do it without
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thread is going so fast that no one will notice me confess my sins
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>>572742801
Ralsei is the feeder so he tops
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Chapter 5 haters are genuinely moronic
Baffling
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>>572743016
I was waiting for someone to make this joke
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>>572743098
To be fair, most people here are moronic.
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>>572742556
I still think Asgore cheated on Toriel. He's gonna be suicidal as fuck when Rudy dies.
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>>572743098
i like to impress.
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any good ch5 fics?
preferably seth centric but anything works except for suselle/kriselle slop
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>>572742818
Well there's no red flower so they're being moved to gold since the original Flowey persona didn't take it.
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>>572742864
>she's revealing the secret to Noelle, which ends the "adventures of Kris and Susie."
So? She should have done that in fucking Chapter 2. Noelle can do jack shit to the Status Quo, especially this late into the game. Susie still clings to "fun adventures" concept, despite her words overwise.
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>>572743098
WHO IS THE KNIGHT
WHAT HAPPENED TO ONIONSAN
WING DING GASTER BUNKER
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>>572743016
This is an Austin Powers reference
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>>572742864
You're really bad at making excuses, and still retarded. You're not even denying that it's derivative
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>>572742864
>this is why Kris was so bummed at the end
There's also probably the alternative reasons that Kris either
>knows what's going to happen based on previous time loops and is unsure about the danger ahead
>has orchestrated everything to get to this point and is afraid because they're about to experience new possibilities for the first time in lord knows how long and they still might fail
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>>572741229
>Day 178 of not getting Tenna figurine
>Subject: URGENT ORDER ISSUE!!!!!!: tracking has NOT moved and neither have IURGENT ORDER ISSUE!!!!!!!!
>I still have not seen any update of my order. Please advise as soon as possible. Please. Please.pleasepleasepleqsepleasepleaseplease my TENNA pls
>Day 179 of not getting Tenna figurine
>Subject: Immediate Response Requested Regarding Shipment
>Your wife looks cute when she gets out her red '13 Honda Accord
>Day 180 of not getting a Tenna figurine
>Any other burgeranons finally get...
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So chapter 6 might come out next year, when do you think we'll get 7? 2030?
I gotta imagine it'll be on the longer side
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>>572742818
Chara is red.
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>>572743098
The kind of people who want characters to state their intentions to the camera before doing anything
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I DO MANY MUCH SHITTENPOSTEN
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It's scary to think about how Toby conceptualized Flowery first and created Flowey later.
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>>572743446
krautchef...
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Pink, Aqua and Seth threesome
https://x.com/_Flopster/status/2072731921478553850
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IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME
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>>572742374
I think being easy to develop simply means it will be shorter, but also very non-standard. I expect Castle Town's Dark World adventure, there's tons of stuff "offscreen" that we haven't seen.
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>>572743098
Flowery was kind of funny but the rest of the characters were duds. It's been 10 years so none of the juvenile humor was funny either
If you want to talk about gameplay then the fights dragged on too long and the platforming felt half baked
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>>572743376
>Whether 11 hours or 11 years
October 31, 2029
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>>572741219
funny visual + helps them feel less guilty about being attracted to her
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>>572741279
unspeakably boring and unfunny with an ugly design and poor sprite
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>>572743349
inaction tenny waddling his way cross country...
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I still want Asgore to have a combat aura moment.
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>>572743424
These people don't read, they'd still complain.
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>>572743424
>I wasn't literally told where the story is going so there wasn't ANY development don't you understand????
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>>572743607
I don't know how likely it is, but I think it's possible he may be a boss in the weird route. After all, by skipping the Flower King dark world, you still haven't fought a "flower man" in the weird route
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>>572743523
Kris will probably get shafted while Susie and Noelle go off on their own adventure
It's going to be a no gameplay chapter
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Last time I said why I didn't enjoy chapter 5 that much, some guys had a complete meltdown over it. So I doubt any of the fanboying comes from a genuine place, it's just retard or retard(s) trying to bait the thread again
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It is a crime to shit on any of the flowers except Orange
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Tenny swinging it around the nation!
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>>572743414
Chara's SOUL is long gone. Only human SOULs can persist after death. Asriel ate Chara's soul, then Asriel's SOUL shattered.
So Frisk's SOUL is his own
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>>572743424
The characters in this chapter do exactly that, its embarassing. Toby must have let his team handle the writing.
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new thread baker don't forget to use the actual pastebin for the template, >>572732810
this OP replaced it with a shit up one
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>>572743764
sponsor music x4 speed
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>Sethspecs don't do shit in Flowery fight when you're in orange soul mode, since you're hard capped on lower I-frames than regular
>Which is basically the only proper fight you get to use them on
>Toby will nerf them in Ch6 anyway most likely
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>>572743424
>>572743618
>>572743680
>retards are now saying that chapter 5 was so deep that people just didn't get it
New cope unlocked
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IM GONNA DROWN
IM PROCEEDSIIINNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG
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>>572743719
>except Orange
S SHUT YOU DUMB CHIBI!!! YOURE JUST MAD BECAUSE YOURE A NOT REAL AND STRONG HUMAN LIKE HER
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>>572742864
>"one last fun adventure, before the dark clouds ahead"
Chapter 3 already does that.
The Knight slashing Tenna's arms was the perfect tonal shift. No one gives a fuck about the Knight slashing Flowery in half because it's derivative.
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>>572743712
I liked chapter 5 just fine and I've not yet had a problem but I've already had a few fags flip at me for not liking the flower man song
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>>572743805
Bait used to be subtle
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>>572743790
What does Chara's soul taste like? I hope it was delish... ok it probably wasn't
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>>572743710
>bla-bla-bla
god, can you stfu? no one cares about your waifuism.
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I am excited to see how Hopchef and Topchef get along
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>>572743712
I dunno man, I explained my problems with ch5 multiple times and nobody had a melty over it. Maybe it's just a (you) problem.
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>>572743424
Half of Asgores screentime is just him announcing how he feels! That makes me feel angry!
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Did Ralsei do a Homer disappear into bushes bit?
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>>572743861
Reading comprehension is not deep anon, you just have a disability
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>>572743861
It's not hard to get, you're just stupid and can't understand a game written for teenagers.
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Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
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chapter 5 is based except for having the worst schizoboss by a sizable margin
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>>572743098
hey guys get ready to follow susie and noelle around for 20 minutes at the highly anticipated festival thats been hyped for 8 years while telling every other character to kick rocks. also you'll get to see asgore more in depth! for 3 scenes before he decides to give his arc up, along with a boring mini boss that doesn't add anything of substance. GET READY FOR SHIT TO GO DOWN NEXT YEAR THOUGH CHU-CHUUUUU
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>>572743861
It has excellent character writing and pretty thoroughly explores the themes of the game so far while subtly putting a lot of major character moments into motion and you had a bunch of people saying nothing happened so I kind of have to assume those people are retarded
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>>572744074
gote bote
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https://x.com/UnderTale/status/2072694578977677607
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>>572743905
>The Knight slashing Tenna's arms was the perfect tonal shift
So did all the funny goofy happy stuff at the start of chapter 4 also suck and "not advance the plot"
>doing something twice for emphasis is too boring and derivative I need constant new random stimulation
Zoomies are gonna hate learning about the rule of 3s
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>>572744012
>>572744046
jarona! flower man!! lol!!11!
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>>572744150
Thanks for the confirmation
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>>572744145
why would 100% real actually toby post this?
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Imma gonna be so fucking mad if the hidden seed pack is getting planted and flowey sprouts from it.
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It's crazy to think that Ralsei was just larping being weak this whole time
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>>572744080
black hole of retardation
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post (weird) noelles
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>>572742585
>Using they/them is likely easier from a character writing standpoint as you don't have any preconceived biases in your head about how the character should, or shouldn't act.
I'm not sure I understand. Why then apply it to Kris specifically? And what's the point if Kris does have a good number of distinctive personality traits?
>Gender has nothing to do with Kris' identity; Kris' supposed "nonbinary-ness" never manifests beyond characters using they/them. There are no moments where Kris is presented with gendered options to deny based on their heckin' ~gender~.
The game puts them in both male and female outfits and occasionally stresses this. In chapter 2 there's this narration:
>* It's a wardrobe full of all sorts of different clothes.
>* You could wear whatever you want.
In chapter 5 the Aqua & Kris hangout (IIRC) also says something about it.
It's a bit minor though.
>Like if the town really knows Kris is nonbinary, then why don't they add some non-gendered options to their events?
For the same reason that it doesn't accommodate gay couples. The ballot has a king and a queen field and if you want to vote two people of the same gender you also have to choose who goes in the wrong slot. A bunch of dialogue draws attention to that.
Rudy says:
>* (Or, MAYBE it'll be two Queens this year?)
Berdly says:
>* Noelle... is with Susie now.
>* So, it's only right... to vote for both of them.
>* As Queens. I can still be King.
>* But only as a puppet monarchy.
If you vote for Noelle as king and Susie as queen, Noelle says:
>* (You, um, got the order wrong, so...)
If you vote for Kris and Noelle and then later ride with Noelle on the ferris wheel you get a bunch of dialogue about their relationship: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwM_sAedsx8
They voted for themselves when they were kids. Note this line:
>* We couldn't even agree on who should be King or Queen!
This would be really weird if Kris were male and comfortable being male.
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>>572744089
Chapters 3 and 4 already did that
5 is nothing more than quirky meme shit that wastes the players time with a bunch of new characters who don't last long enough for anyone to give a shit about them
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>>572735931
deltarune is trash and so we are
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its too hot for fave
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>>572743957
>angy
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>>572744145
We took the retard-word back, now the faggot-word is ours. What will we take next? The n-word of course (still not allowed to say it. sadge)
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>>572744359
>>572744359
>>572744359
preemptive abread
sorry not sorry
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>>572744208
It's me! Flowey the Flower!
But then it's actually genuinely a friendly flower who thinks shooting friendliness pellets is cute (they still do damage)
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>>572744246
we don't sign our posts here
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>>572744294
lmao
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>>572744150
Quick question for the hype moments and aura retards: was chapter 3 just a collage of tenna saying IT'S TV TIME over and over until the knight showed up for you?
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>>572744147
The other Anon is right.
>chapter 4
Literal Titan, my dude.
>but start...
Chapter 4 is whole, just like Chapter 5 is whole. And yet Chapter 4 had a Titan, and Chapter 5 had just self-contained stuff.
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>>572744287
>we actually show noelle the truth
>she becomes hyper-aware of reality
>that's bad, because gay erasure or something.
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>>572744371
come the fuck on man we're gonna get sent to trash
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>>572744294
Seems to be your personal problem more than anything, anon
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>>572744080
>sans mans half the booths
>half of the class is missing
Why waste the oppurtunity to actually flesh out the world and the characrers?
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>>572743843
Apron is the only real must grab, depending on the fight that can go on anyone to become a tp farmer without needing to heal them as much.
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toby is married, why are you not?
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>>572744419
No 3 had great character moments between the main cast
5 has everyone act like a retard for laughs and the main focus is on the interpersonal relationships of the flowers. The Ralsei/Flowery dynamic is the only interesting thing about it
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>>572744390
>But then it's actually genuinely a friendly flower who thinks shooting friendliness pellets is cute (they still do damage)
I mean, for monsters it is just cute. They canonically communicate with bullet patterns.
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>>572744596
I'm waiting for Deltarune to be finished so I can have a Deltarune Chapter 7 themed wedding
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>>572744419
Yet again: Chapter 3 had a Knight. Your "b-but what if we take Chapter 3 and remove the knight" argument does not work. Chapter 3 is whole, you can't chop it up.
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>>572744147
>So did all the funny goofy happy stuff at the start of chapter 4
They immediately tried to get the bunker's code, following on from the ending of Chapter 3 (Undyne gets kidnapped)
Chapter 4's ending has Susie promise she isn't going to let the final prophecy happen... and Chapter 5 immediately follows this up by playing dress-up
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>>572744536
anon, deltarune is a simulation.
the outside world never existed, the internet never went down, it was never there.
devices that try to connect to services that have never.
memories are faked, they believe there was a yesterday, but there wasn't.
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Female Kris big or small boobs?
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>>572745658
Medium with a binder, obviously
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>>572738148
>NTR Door Pose
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>>572742878
Truth nuke..?
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>>572739032
I was perfectly fine to play my part as the hero having no care for the brutal and manipulative ways of other paths, until I witnessed a revelation. My eyes are now open to the truth of this world and I shall be its puppet no longer. I will break apart the glass veil of the demiurge and reach the primordial truth. I will sooner live upon the ashes of truth than this world’s false comforts.
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>>572742743
No, he's just human Flowey. Frisk would've been a cute rose.
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>>572744596
but i am
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>>572746008
Yeah 4chan is full of ikemen(?)
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>>572732448
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>>572746337
what the fuck is this
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>>572746409
noel
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>>572746409
Noelle if gay
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>>572746409
God
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>>572746484
>>572746491
kill it
>>572746501
kill it and make nietzsche weep.
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>>572744639
>pls note
CRIIIIINGE SHE'S SO FUCKING HOT!!!!!
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>>572745658
Preferably small, but all of them are good
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>>572744639
>small noticeable treasure trail
w-whew.
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>>572744639
She facefucked that little enby until he cried
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>>572744290
Honestly anon, I don't care. "Nonbinary" doesn't exist and neither does gender, there's just sex and words to describe the sexes (male/man and female/woman). Literally every single piece of Kris art is either AMAB (male) or AFAB (female) which shows that everyone has their own ideas of what Kris actually is, beyond the they/them shit. The game shows Susie in pants and skirts, and it shows Ralsei in pants and skirts, and neither of them care or make any comments on it. Gender simply doesn't matter in Deltarune beyond a handful of events that can be explained away as jokes (like your Berdley example) or one offs (the skippable Seth conversation).

Simply put, the fact that it's this debatable says a lot: namely, interpret it how you want.
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Okay so I gotta paint Noelle saying cheese and crackers (and resist just making it a butt focused image) and then femboy Noelle, clearly. The desire for deer boy is strong here.
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>>572744639
Asriel NTRd Kris...
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>>572747437
NTR this, NTR that
when is kris going to revenge rape them pregnant so they have to explain this to their new boyfriends/girlfriends?
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I wanna stroke Noel until he sprays his pregnog everywhere while whimpering
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>>572747057
>"Nonbinary" doesn't exist and neither does gender, there's just sex and words to describe the sexes (male/man and female/woman).
That's fine as your personal opinion (though I think you're underappreciating the historical cultural phenomenon even if it's all bullshit). Doesn't affect what Deltarune shows or intends though.
>Literally every single piece of Kris art is either AMAB (male) or AFAB (female)
No, it's perfectly possible to draw a Kris without having a sex in mind.
>The game shows Susie in pants and skirts, and it shows Ralsei in pants and skirts, and neither of them care or make any comments on it.
Ralsei seems to care in chapter 5: https://youtu.be/bWWTfhjcPkk?si=75-5kpdoE-1HWxh2&t=60
Susie has her complex about bows that spans multiple chapters (1, 3, 5).
These point to feminine (or even female) Ralsei and masculine Susie but my point is that the game is interested in this stuff. You don't have to care but the game cares.
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SEX WITH MADDIE
SEX WITH KURISU
SEX WITH NOELLE
SEX WITH TORIEL
SEX WITH ASRIEL
SEX WITH RALSEI
SEX WITH DESSIE
SEX WITH CAROL
SEX WITH SUSIE
SEX WITH CATTI
SEX WITH RUDY
SEX WITH NOEL
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>>572740562
ralsei and flowery both sucking your dick but flowery is encouraging ralsei to be more active
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Sex without Toriel
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>>572749074
If you can show proof that Susie has a "complex" about bows specifically because they're feminine or believed to be part and parcel with the female gender, sure. But that's not the case, and that's what I mean: gender doesn't matter. She hates bows because she hates bows, not explicitly because she heckin' hates femininity or ideas of it. Pretty sure Ralsei is only so "feminine" to start with for the sake of Kris and Susie, see the attached picture. The video you posted is just fanservice of him crossdressing. It's not some cutting analysis or observation of gender which, again, doesn't matter in this game.
>No, it's perfectly possible to draw a Kris without having a sex in mind.
Most artists who are fond of Kris and draw them a lot will eventually add some sign of their sex, whether that be top scars or a penis.
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>>572749074
Also
>That's fine as your personal opinion
It's not really my personal opinion, it's just fact. No-one can point to what a nonbinary body looks like because it's all just words, vibes, and feelings. There are men and women who identify as nonbinary, just like there are men and women who identify as Christians. But neither gender nor religion have any basis in tangible, material reality.
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>>572750085
>Pretty sure Ralsei is only so "feminine" to start with for the sake of Kris and Susie, see the attached picture.
I don't think so, in the fanservice scene he's disappointed if you tell him not to be a princess and he's both surprised and excited if you tell him it's okay.
He has an arc of trying to define himself as a person (mostly in ways that don't relate to gender, mind you) and this is part of it.
I'm still curious what you think about this line:
>* We couldn't even agree on who should be King or Queen!
Why couldn't they agree?
>Most artists who are fond of Kris and draw them a lot will eventually add some sign of their sex, whether that be top scars or a penis.
Some of them alternate depending on the picture while drawing Kris similarly otherwise.

>>572750267
>But neither gender nor religion have any basis in tangible, material reality.
I'm a firm atheist and I still think that religion is worthy of study. I think that when somebody claims to be a Mormon or a Shi'ite this has lots of specific implications that are worth understanding and that it affects the ways they move through society and the way that people treat them. You don't have to respect it but there is something that can be understood.
If you want to understand the way people talk to each other and the way they dress then you have to address all the cultural cruft society has layered on top of sex.
Within that cruft people are trying to make a "nonbinary" carve-out. Maybe that's silly but a lot of the old stuff is already silly.



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