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Metaphor coming to Switch 2 November 12th, 2026
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJv9Yud-1U4
Metaphor Orchestra world tour announced for 2026 / 2027 (Asia region locations added)
>https://www.ticketport.co.jp/lp/metaphor_concert/overseas.html
>The manga adaptation of Metaphor: ReFantazio will be published monthly in Shueisha's V Jump magazine, with an anime reportedly in the works.

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.co/MetaphorRefantaziovg
https://rentry.co/scenicvista

>Metaphor Manga (Chapter releases on the 19th of every month)
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1023739

>How to Make an RPG With Katsura Hashino - Metaphor: ReFantazio (ENG)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EivtGe8xwfWrk7TXZbRqTgXmWk_iSnTW

>Metaphor Digital Artbook
https://mega.nz/file/VisTTLhB#G4epdYn-DfoS9QnkDccPaverj_LjwY35_VpCAsj8kTc

>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg

>MetaphorFix (adds proper ultrawide, things, etc.)
https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases

>A Metaphor in Fantasy (incl. early development footage)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eFkMJzc6ow

>Metaphor Orchestra Concert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwXSEndmlj4

>Metaphor Live Reading Event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLzctQQ9h8

Common Questions
>"How should I build my MC?"
Realistically anything works, you won't brick yourself even on Hard or Regicide. Common consensus is a hybrid STR/MAG/AGI is best.
>"What is the best team comp?"
Just about everything works, do whatever you like the most and it'll work on any difficulty.
>"How should I manage my time?"
There's more than enough time in the game to 100%, do whatever you'd like.
>"Which royal virtues should I focus on?"
Prioritize eloquence and tolerance and avoid courage boosts.
>Royal Slash scales based on the higher of your STR or MAG.

Previous thread:>>571395858
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https://personacentral.com/metaphor-weiss-schwarz/
Metaphor finally getting a weiss schwarz set like the last several persona games had typically right around launch (P4 originally came with a sample card from its set in Japan). This was weirdly announced by the english branch and not the Japanese one
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>/vg/ getting just a little faster at night again
very annoying
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>>572790597
this weekend is anime expo isn't it? That's probably why.
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stop dying
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>>572794349
Shitpost less
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>>572794534
do you miss me? be honest
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>>572795015
>wrecks everything they come across
>asks if other people care about them
Peak retarded womyn behavior
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Rella and Louis fucked, but Rella and Will should've fucked
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>>572803376
Fairy needs to be fucked
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>>572795397
Frankly they all should have fucked together
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>>572807034
no
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>>572810158
Jack Frost is a lil perv here seeking for some upskirt.
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man this game mogs the shit out of persona no wonder some spergs were trying to gaslight it
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>>572809821
no u
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https://www.rpgsite.net/preview/20834-metaphor-refantazio-has-some-promise-on-switch-2-but-its-not-quite-there-yet
Switch 2 port was playable at anime expo. Looks like it has some issues but the game is targeting 60 with dips in more places than the original on PC/PS4/base PS5, so there should be no situation where a demo comes out in October and it runs sub 30 constantly like with P3R
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>>572807034
Just leave Brigitta and Catherina for me.
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This again huh
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Eupha sex
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I still haven't seen what happens if you wait until the end of the game to do Catherina's follower events
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Sexing out the berg
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I didn't know there was a metaphor general. Why do you guys talk about? How to be more inclusive and shit? Lol.
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>>572885980
What an organic post
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Finally I found the fucking concert acrylic, why was this so difficult
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I love eupha
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>>572810237
He always gets it
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>30th anniversary of persona
>only game that comes out for it is a port of metaphor
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>metaphor up by this much literally just from a sale at a price they've been close to before + having literally any presence in the news cycle, which is literally the most it's been up by since mid 2025
bros I think marketing an IP actually boosts sales or something
3 million by the end of this year seems guaranteed which would funnily still be faster than P3R despite the valve being turned off for a year
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>>572943685
>think marketing an IP actually boosts sales
What marketing? It's just steam sales season. People buy games they won't play for more than a month
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>>572944791
are you being retarded on purpose or something
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lost between borders
norwegian citizen born in norway stuck in india
living on the streets
surviving
being a tourist guide
smoking on the fucking roads
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>>572945815
sounds like the average persona fan experience
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>>572945815
metaphor fans are indians yeah, it was already known only indians would like a nigger protagonist
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lost between IPs
atlus citizen born in persona stuck in metaphor
living on sunlumeo street, surviving
being a MAG merchant
smoking on the fucking roads
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>>572946051
persona sucks compared to metaphor
cope with this one day or die being obsessed
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floppenheimer
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Sex the berg
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https://x.com/animeupdates/status/2073440203738685780
Very small glimpse but they got their metaphor demo from all the past showings running on the switch
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Will apparently beat Tails in a Sega character popularity poll lol
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>>572943685
I think 3 million will be latest reached with the switch port but at this rate maybe earlier who knows, it is going well either way
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>>572943685
Atlus has to figure out that turning shit around quickly like they used to is actually part of the reason why their brands got to where they are. Metaphor is already way past SMT and the vast majority of persona but they left such a huge gap open after it came out that grifters noticed
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Larrue posted some metaphor music being played at the atlus booth
https://x.com/didyaknowtensei/status/2073518394201272539
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Extremely fast eupha
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zorba
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I'm gonna fuck will's mom
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>>573056779
I disagree
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>>573065052
I don't.
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Man, Basilio really gets screwed over the hardest by the Join Louis bad end.
>Depends on others for most of everything his life.
>Couldn't even awakening his own Archetype, needed Del for that too.
>His 1st independent motivation was to avenge Fidelio and beat the shit out of Louis, almost got himself killed for it.
>Decides to support Will since he isn't an asshole and has similar goals and ideals he agreed with
>Get to Louis, now the guy he decided to believe in allies with his brother's murderer.
>The guy Basilio hates so much half his Archetype dialogue is wondering how he can kick his ass now, the guy who's final speeches Bas gave was only on how much Louis sucks and should die.
>Basilio is most likely to die out of the group in the new world's transformation due to his overdependence. Strohl and Heismay are accepting of the situation and will probably make it past just fine. Basilio still thinks Heismay hates paripus at this point.
>Strohl at least got the (temporary) satisfaction of avenging his family before getting reminded of what the group were fighting in the first place for and getting over his hatred.

Like you really have to hate the dude to pick this choice.
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Dead game dead discussion dead thread
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>>572790365
Is this a good game?
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>>573074713
yes
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>>573072106
I don't think he'd be at that much of a disadvantage, he'd probably do fine having to kill people that turned into humans especially given his follower material. All not getting transformed means that you can beat your own anxiety and not that you can't literally feel anything so him hating Louis is not much of a factor
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>>573078251
I thought Louis's transformation plan involved doing what he did to Will onto everyone on the planet. He even mention Hulkenberg potentially not making it after her protests, and she got over her Prince anxiety completely by that point in the story.
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>>573080715
>onto everyone on the planet.
Euchronia isn't the whole world, he'd just basically nuke the equivalent of the UK forever.
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>>573080715
For all of the archetype users the big idea is that if they ever reach a point where anxiety stops being the source of their strength and they can't draw power from it then they would start to succumb, but barring that they have a considerable advantage over the average /v/ shitposter because they can do that. Will before awakening is a bit of an exception and would go instantly because he is sending anxiety to the scepter the entire game, and he's the only archetype user that leaks anxiety constantly even during gameplay up until that point.
Louis evaluates literally everyone through that lens. Munchinberg isn't going to turn into a human because she disagrees with Louis, it would happen if she couldn't deal with losing a specific person for example and she started letting off anxiety for someone else to take on for her. This is the whole basis for the culling. You could hate Louis perpetually and blame him for killing your loved ones and having a single thing to aspire to destroy could be enough for someone to be able to reject their anxiety, or you could be someone totally unable to do that and you would turn into a human. The former is the kind of thing I think would drive Basilio in that kind of a setting. He grew up in a hellscape and knows full well paripus die whenever, and he also wasn't drugged out of his mind by Sanctists, so he wouldn't conventionally go mad from the spell being activated and seeing people go ass backward all around him.
In a scenario where Will joins Louis and they take equal part in the destroyer king role Louis knows that some of the survivors would hate him for I think berg would be full yandere for Will and that would keep her going if her parents were transformed or something like that, kind of like a Zorba with tits but also less sane.
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>>573082004
I wonder what Louis even thought about that. The royal scepter is op but I can't see it being able to be strong after he wants to stop absorbing anxiety and in omparison to what other countries might have. Did he just not care it is limited to Euchronia or did he plan to expand? If he just ruined Euchronia, other countries could wait a bit and then take over the ruins.
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>>573092568
The risk of getting invaded is much lower if the country is overrun by humans I think, foreigners were interested in weakening the euchronian government by funding activists representing minorities too relatable so I don't think the interest is really in trying to take over a much smaller country where the authority figures have godlike powers and everyone else even the non-combatants are inherently more competent than the average person
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>>573093565
I guess the interest would be there if Euchronia had valuable natural resources but not like that is much eluded to.
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Gallica sex
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>>573099643
Kino
Bunch of people were gushing about this
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>>573111624
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>>572790365
i demand more giant fetish art of this creature
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>>573129260
Commission it.
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Gallica commissioning a very tiny portrait of herself sitting on Will's shoulder
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Single issues
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5249VcPAlfk
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>>573144952
No one in this setting is gonna be single for long
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Sexing the berg in
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gay sex with fidelio!
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Louis watched Rella and Junah fuck
Then Louis and Rella fucked
Then Junah fucked Fidelio to make her sister jealous
It didn't work and Louis and Rella got married
That was how Rella became queen and Junah ended up with a minority man's puppies
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>>573171019
can't wait for the alternative route in Retold
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God can't everyone just start having sex already
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>>573176301
I think theyre going to be very stringent about making changes to the existing story like with P5 but maybe they thought quaditsu route was cool and want to do something like that. I'd just hope that they don't make a new dungeon and then literally reuse all the enemies between that and the one they add on the new path.
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>Will beat Sonic and Bayonetta in a sega popularity poll
It's a pretty low engagement one but still
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Metaphor is the Ronaldo of Atlus games
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Sexis bergis
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>>573189670
I would hope they have the balls to change things drastically, I really would like eg Rella to live, Fidelio I like him but it would hinder Basilios arc a bit so I wouldn't trade that.
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Junah having sex with Eupha for real after she finds out Eupha is great at sucking on her clit during practice
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>>573204663
>yurishit
no
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>>573205240
Yes
Only third world asians seethe at two hot girls fucking and project trannies onto everything because they're not secure in themselves whatsoever and feel threatened for dominance in nature by a fucking woman
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>Hulknigger is a cuck
Should've expected that from a pajeet who likes pedogold
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>>573209321
Can you speak English or is the average income in your household too low for that
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>SEA
>personafag
>low test male
A worse combo couldn't be made in a Wuhan lab
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shit atlus slop game with shit story
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>>573215605
oh shit sorry I thought this was the persona 3 general
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When i was playing the demo in February and saw and heard Gallica for the first time i quit the demo and knew that i had to buy the full game.
I didn't even get into combat in the demo. I was still in the city.
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>>573233775
many such cases
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>>573236860
Euph
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Gallica pants
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Sexing the sexyberg
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Why do I want to fuck all the girls so badly when there's not even any social sim dating stuff in this game
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drinking demons blood
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Zork
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Messi (Persona) still winning as always
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>>573282273
*barely beating egyptian villagers
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>>573282273
>liars and cheaters from a population of mostly third worlders barely eke out a hollow win over other brown people
Checks out
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>>573286581
found the fraudnaldo fan
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posting scat should be bannable
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>>573297185
Stop shitting yourself then
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Rock 'em Sock 'em Bergfucks
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Gallica gaining 5 pounds from eating a single bag of potato chips
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Catherina would not stand for all this lewdposting
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>>573326676
Catherina would be getting fucked by me six different ways
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sippin demons blood
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Someone's upset yet another FF7 mobage is EOSing kek
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Taking the sexy fox lady out back
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Why does eupha think she gets to go around with her ass clipping through all her outfits?
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>>573357424
cause she likes the freedom it provides, or something. don't hate on women
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>>573357424
They tried to saw her ass off like every atlus girl but she was too fast
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>>573191870
He won the whole thing
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Bardon
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>>573373135
hail our short king
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>>573378676
and shorter queen
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>>573373135
Based
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Super Sexo Bergshine
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>>573379370
Sex... sex now.
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>>573405765
no
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The writing in this game is weird. Once in a while, the protagonist declares that he is working towards making the prince the king but the rest of the time, people are declaring that the protagonist is going to become king
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>>573421167
yeahhhh because he's supposed to be a shadow candidate for the prince who no one is supposed to know is alive
he never says that to anyone that he isn't close to
and actually if you wait until the last arc of the game to do certain follower events some of that dialogue will actually change
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>>573422728
Sex the berg
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Ya
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Sex should be happening all the time in grand trad
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Gallica
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>>573129260
just aislop it retard
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Sexem bergum
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>>573470075
silence indian
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>>573486838
She looks so soft
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>>573477035
jeets don't even have access to LLMs and models, though
they don't even have access to clean water, they literally shit and eat off the floor
ai seethe is just seething troons
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>>573498614
>jeets don't even have access to LLMs and models
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>absolutely fucking implying
Have you been living under a rock gramps? Literally all of /v/ is full of AI jeets shilling AI all the time. Just make one thread shitting on AI and the entirety of india comes to defend it.
The fucking CEO of Xbox is a fucking indian too you disingenuous jeet
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>>573499232
nah, troons etc call them jeets - it's a meme
jeets get hit by trains and drink cow piss, they literally lack the infrastructure and IQ to prompt llms
you're crashing out over nothing bro
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>>573499232
I didn't know anyone actually believed the Asian shitposters on /v/ kek
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Louis is coming
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I'm cumming in eupha
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any news on a metaphor sequel
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Louis sure fooled people with his fake horns for a long time. You figure at some point they'd get knocked off by accident or something.
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>>573517763
Lies of W
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>>573534998
Them being magic is kind of the point where that was going to happen unless drakodios hit in right in the horns
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>>573533351
because switch 2 is getting a port this year it's more likely there will be new content coming to all the existing versions next year first
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>>573534998
I bet even if that happened if he was younger, he could have just killed the present people if it isn't a huge group
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Just dance but it's metaphor characters
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From zero to hero to zero to king
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Rella's legs
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Yeah it sure is the weekend isn't it?
I hate getting dragged into 2027 with nothing besides a port that only japan is going to give a shit about
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bardon
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>>573645039
Still one of my favorite social links period
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Atlusss doooo somethiiiiing
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>>573665530
*shits in your mouth
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>>573666879
dodges and it lands in the mouth of the nearest personafag
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zorba
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Gallicaaaa
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>>573677373
What, I'm sleeping
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Sexyberger
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>>573698835
this artist only draws loli porn now
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>>573699110
Most artists have a mental break at one point or another desu
Comes with the territory of being inherently low income and being unable to support what is really a hobby they want to put everything into with a substantial career
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>>573699382
>Comes with the territory of being inherently low income
they have a job they just really only draw loli now because it's what they wanted to do to begin with than appeal to normalfags
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>>573701965
My king
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>>573718980
I want to molest your king
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Rui-sama...
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>>573748867
my hero
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Gallica's hotpants
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>>573786129
at least make eupha the magical girl
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>>573789371
sex
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Feeding official pictures into Gemini and seeing how great scales could look, makes me sad. They should release more already.
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>>573792218
marketing restarts next year with the expansion
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>>573792780
I'm still afraid Atlus will refrain from 2027 because of P4 and P6 but I guess summer could fit.
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>50+ posts of nothing
nice discussion fags
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>>573810046
We got tired discussing how much youth mom's snatch can stretch
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>>573811886
damn youth's mom must be a whore then
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn3TZqt9kKU
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>>573824364
The fanbase is very adamant about never giving gallica anything more than sandals and I'm all for it
Real footfags get drowned out in China having practically no choice in what fetish content they get to make and consume so it's nice to see some real solidarity
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wtf is louis not a 1:1 copy of ryo from devilman
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>>573835117
>anon discovering the japanese lucifer archetype
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>>573835779
fell for the blonde twink propaganda again award
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>>573835117
Ryo is way too gay for what every japanese creator that's taken inspiration from the design has done with it since
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Make paripus women sex fiends again
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Make atlus straight and white again
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>>573860208
you're from the philippines though?
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The Virga Island dungeon is so long...
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>>573830789
I think Gallica should be nude
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>>573866003
Pooh rejection
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>>573880392
>uoöpertm.jpg
what kind of filename is this, norwegian???
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Sex out the berg
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>>573885374
it is what I get by keyboard mashing desu
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I want more metaphor
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playing the game for the first time and holy shit the dragon temple was a fucking marathon. seemed like quite the spike in difficulty too, at end the i had to run past enemies due to no mp consumables. the boss itself was way easier than the path to him. im quite at a dilemma what party members to pick now, im glad they get passive xp. junah and the mask girl seem to both stat like casters. been enjoying it way more than any persona and its on par with smt 4 (the only atlas game i truly enjoyed so far), big surprise cause i absolutely didnt feel persona 5.
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>>573907453
dragon temple is just a rehash of etrian odyssey, if you like that then go play EO instead
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>>573908198
Cope personatard
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>>573908671
>lying about playing the game for the first time just so he can dunk on persona
sad to have a non-flop franchise rent free in your mind that you have to "pretend" to be someone trying this garbage lol
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>>573907453
I love making both junah and eupha into physical attackers, wish there was a better source of strength incenses but I also kind of get why they didn't make those easy to get
Thinking about it I've only made Junah follow her dancer path once across all the playthroughs I've done and she's been either an offbrand warrior or a general
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>>573908948
>schizoid rambling
Persona has a following of the dumbest retards on the planet and you've started feeling self conscious about it, that's why you have this general open all day absolutely desperate to get in the way of any discussion about the game
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>>573909205
>literally 100+ posts of imagedumps
>discussion
hmmmmmmmmm no
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>>573908198
im not sure i liked the temple, it took like 3h.
>>573908958
i do feel junah dancer/caster is strong but might make one of them melee to replace strohl. like brawler especially for melee, so stronge.
>>573908948
didnt even wanna dunk i feel im too old to relate to persona and 5 was why i didnt play metaphor until now.
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Metaphor will always be much better than Persona
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>>573907453
I like P5 in particular quite a lot (don't really give a shit about P3 or P4) but Metaphor is definitely better, it's not even close
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>bring general to lvl 15
does anyone else not fuck with this class, might just use the xp items for this one boss
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Are there any rundowns on the development history?
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>>573911316
I use the buffs for most of the game, the synthesis skill for full party heat riser I used a bunch recently

>>573918312
there's the interview collection in the OP but there's no big story or anything particularly unique about it other than how the game was announced years before any real work began on it because it was the first time they were trying to build a new studio like that after P5
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>>573911316
All the classes besides the late gunner ones are good
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zorba
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hulkenberg the entire game: food food food food food food food
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>>573966447
cock cock cock
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Do I spend $100 on the AX merch blind bag and make half of it back on the odds of getting 2 Louises
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>>573987808
do it sis
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>>573987808
how many are you getting for 100 anyway?
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Eupha
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>>573994528
fuck 'em
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Jay and the Silent Euph
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>>573993737
$100 can only get you 10
as someone who bought 18 on site, I got like 5 junah dupes and others that were not louis so maybe the bags online are better, who knows.
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قَالَ فِیهَا تَحۡیَوۡنَ وَفِیهَا تَمُوتُونَ وَمِنۡهَا تُخۡرَجُونَ
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>>573994528
when i got her i was almost a bit annoyed, two caster girls in a row? But she is most definitely the best girl and eclipses junah in everything. love lil euph
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>>574019728
I make eupha an off brand melee attacker pretty much every time because her battle priestess personality suits it but she was good in the general tree for awhile too. I've never made her a pure caster, Junah I did a couple times
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>>574020689
thats smart. i was thinking about doing the melee route with junah (mines only dancer and faker so far), but i just now got the next party member who seems to be meele.
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>>574009825
well I hope it is more successful online then
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>>574022075
Yeah I got him in that picture too, bas is great to use for all the late game content but I like offbranding him as a Healer or a technical class because of all his archetype dialogue. He puts his all into trying new things and he would be the most competent in a debisama scenario
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You guys play this game multiple times?
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>>574031018
I played it 5 times so far
Will wait for new content to do more I think
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>>573966447
maybe one day she'll eat the food that makes her have an ass
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Goddard was right
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>>574060181
this but unironically
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cumming inside fidelio!
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This is what they really look like? *vomits*
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>>574073663
looks like she can give a mean head
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>>574073663
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I've been watching ghost in the shell 2026 and reading the original manga for the first time. I appreciate how metaphor doesn't have the worldbuilding hijack the entire script and I'd love to see metaphor 2 do something similar in a fantasy sengoku setting
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>>574091328
I just hope when we leave Euchronia we get a good mix of technology and magic. It would make sense that without something holding them back like the royal sceptre they are more advanced.
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idelio!
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Gallica's rump
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>>574126896
Why does Pixie always come out badly in fanart? Even in this Gallica looks better
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Gallibutt
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HxH leaks in 6 hours
lets go
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i played up until the dragon temple when this game out and dropped it. thinking about giving it another go. sell it to me, i love jrpgs but have hated atlus' last few games
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>>574153183
dude are you seriously gonna need a therapeutic pep talk to play a videogame
you are your own man, act like one
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Metaphor is what happens when you let atlus veterans where all the girls know how to cook
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>>574154105
cute
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I haven't finished this game yet and I want the Royal version
It get why persona communities don't tall about the game too much its because they're fucking ashamed
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The dialogue is too repetitive sometimes. Like when you beat Junah's sister, it was like 15-20 minutes repeating the same information over and over
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>>574175371
explaining what was actually going on and then dying is not repeating the same thing over and over
it's giving you information once and then trying to do something with that information assuming the player can understand the difference
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>>574175494
She explained it to the crew, then they showed the flashback which conveyed the same thing, and then they yapped more after the flashback, and then she explained it again when talking to the crowd. A more creative writer would have found a way to convey the information once
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>>574175494
These developers should know that proper writing in a video game is vagueposting for 40 hours with hollywood actors they couldn't pay for without a huge investment from china. This is the chief lesson we all should learn from the greatest game of all time according to Southeast Asia and France
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>>574166849
Ashamed of what? Of metaphor being a waste of money and time? Yeah
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>>574175895
meanwhile what really happened was
>Rella admits she was protecting her sister
>then they show the flashback showing what actually happened and what Forden's motivation was
>then she tells everyone over magic skype what she did which causes the faith to start to crumble
A different thing is happening each time
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>>574176392
Sounds like there were huge overlaps in each of those scenes and they could have easily have been folded into a single scene or a set of smaller scenes to avoid the redundancy in information
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>>574176358
ashamed of how aggressively mediocre persona is in comparison
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>>574176642
It sounds like you're coping out of your ass desu
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>>574176868
>Rella admits she was protecting her sister
>then they show the flashback showing what actually happened [. . .]
>then she tells everyone over magic skype what she did [. . .]

Even in your post, the redundancy in the scenes is apparent
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Metaphor is a perfect infalible game with no flaws and it's the only masterpiece ever created in the history of the universe. Of course the perfect videogame had to be created by a Japanese man, born in the most perfect country in the world that is Japan. The rest of the world should be ashamed of being incapable of creating such a masterpiece like metaphor, even the concept of existence should be ashamed since Metaphor is better than god, allah, jesus christ, yahweh and all other nonsensical things you believe in
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Throwing a tantrum really doesn't make it look like you were justified in trying to critique anyone else's work
Don't open your mouth again
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>>574177056
>each scene contains new information about something introduced in a previous scene
This is literally the opposite of redundancy. Redundancy isn't having three scenes centered on one idea, it's having three scenes that articulate that idea exactly the same way
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>>574178373
You can't talk about one thing for that long you have to jump to the next topic before the watcher gets out their phone and starts watching tiktok. And you need to throw in some fairy ass to break up this thing and the next thing so the youtube video of your game being watched doesn't get relegated to secondary viewing. And then you have to make sure that you pad the script for secondary viewers towards the end anyway and ensure you both show and tell otherwise that's a lost customer.
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>>574178373
This is a weak argument lmao. According to you, if one 20 minute scene explains something but the next scene has 19 minutes of the same information but only 1 minute of new information, they are not redundant
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>>574178774
No, because you can't take this point to that extreme without losing it completely. 99% of the same shit and 1% trying to move the plot forward is articulating it exactly the same way each time. Beyond that, if you watched any set of scenes in this game in particular and came away thinking it did this at any point you were just not paying any amount of attention to it
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>responding seriously
Will admit though it's gonna be a real funny awkward moment when P6 comes out and Metaphor's writing quality is so much higher that it becomes the new P2 for contrarians
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>debating the definition of redundancy instead of addressing the idea that information is repeated

The point is that the information could have been delivered with far less repetition. Imagine if Metaphor was adapted for an anime, do you think they would have the scenes running long as they as they were? No, they would rewritten the scenes to convey them in 5 minutes instead of 20 and there would be no loss in information
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>>574180225
>pivoting because the argument fell apart
This new one you got doesn't work either because the repetition is already minimal in the example you tried to give. Cramming all three pieces of Rella's backstory into a single infodump is always going to come with information loss unless you rewrite the whole thing to redefine what information there is to lose. Anime adaptations of games that have a lot of story (like Persona 5, for fucking example) leave important shit out all the time precisely because they try to do this for the benefit of the runtime and the moron watching the show.
And this was why the first argument didn't work, because you couldn't make it without taking it to the only extreme that would be favorable to what you were trying to say that didn't represent what you were talking about in the first place
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>movie writing vs. game writing
it's like watching an Expedition 33 fan trying to make headway in a room of avid book readers
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>>574180994
>pivoting because the argument fell apart

It's pivoting to the initial argument instead of getting stuck debating semantics: "The dialogue is too repetitive sometimes."

>Anime adaptations of games that have a lot of story (like Persona 5, for fucking example) leave important shit out all the time precisely

I've never seen the Persona anime. If they omitted important information, then it's a flaw in the script, not an issue with the medium. Large scale stories are conveyed through anime all the time and there's nothing special about Persona or Metaphor that makes them impossible to adapt into anime.
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>>574181574
>Large scale stories are conveyed through anime all the time
Conveyed *poorly* all the time, because they get in their own way trying to grind the material down into the smallest pieces possible like this, and they find it doesn't work out, so they take advantage of the viewers and try to nail the memorable moments from the source material and cut most of the rest out. People might love the 2nd Heaven's Feel movie for keeping all the sex in, but even that one cuts a ton of things out of the original story.
Realistically, a metaphor anime would totally cut the loli Rella flashback in the middle and just have Rella tell all of that instead of showing it, because you still need the details from that scene for what she did and what Forden was trying to do to fully make sense, and even then it still wouldn't be able to compress the third part as-is because too many things are actually happening in it that are predicated on earlier parts of the story and matter for what happens immediately afterward.
You can't move the fight elsewhere or have her not admit to the assassination a second time without the entire chain of events falling apart, you can't shorten the third part much or at all without it impacting the payoff for Gideaux or showing why Forden's former supporters eventually start rioting while Louis' do too between the state religion starting to collapse and Rella's endorsement turning into a monster in broad daylight which happens later, and what does this naturally lead to because they can't get it into the amount of time they need to? The anime screenwriters cutting shit. Would be a small miracle if Gideaux wasn't just completely relegated to a background character.
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>>574183114
I feel like a Metaphor anime would be closer to an adaptation of the manga than the game. The manga is already making a ton of concessions to shorten the length of the story which is why the consensus is that the art is great but the story is ass
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>>574180113
>that it becomes the new P2 for contrarians
This is not a good thing, nobody ever played P2 and most of the people who praise it praise it for the wrong reasons and try to reduce the characters to memes or overpraise them despite being fairly normal.
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>>574183817
I mean what would be any different really? The same retards that didn't play metaphor and were shitting on it would just start glazing metaphor while shitting on something else. The net amount of retardation in the world stays the same
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>>574183114
>a metaphor anime would totally cut the loli Rella flashback
yeah miss me with that shit thanks at a minimum they have to add a scene of her touching Louis when they were younger if not fully animate the college dorm sex scene or I will not watch to the end
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If we're being honest, you could cut 90% of the dialogue because it was pretty obvious that Rella wanted to protect her sister.
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>>574184845
We could cut 90% of your brain out because yer not using much of it
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I thought there was news and instead it was just an internet argument...
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>>574185182
Sorry 4chan is such a disappointment anon there's too many foreigners from muslim and asian shitholes on here now
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>>572790365
wtf is wrong with Will's English dub voice? he sounds like a lispy faggot
>>573074713
I like it so far, just don't play it in English
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>>574193940
idk he's kind of awkward but he gave a decent interview for the 1st anniversary. Interviewer tried to bait him into le orange man bad and he didn't take it so I consider him based
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5bR2NqDpqI
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>>574203970
>moy.jpg



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