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Your dad's my bestfriend edition.

Previous dad: >>572820659

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

-Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font

-/utg/ Canvases
>Current: https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96246887-1728-4989
>Previous: https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96239777-9260-8312
>Current: https://magma.com/d/3B5chWd0Vh
>Previous: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh

-Pippins Wiki
>https://utg-pippins-ocs.neocities.org

-Thread Template (paste the current whiteboard links)
>https://pastebin.com/rTN8SxAw
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Some food for thought regarding WR:
>If you like Noelle, the route gives her the most characterisation and nuance compared to NR
>>If you don’t like Noelle, the route gives you a reason to see her as a psychopath
>If you like Susie, you see her go from a troubled youth to a potential knight in shining armor against you and her love interest of Noelle, corrupted against her
>>If you hate Susie, you take one of her love interests away from her as well as reduce screentime
>If you like Kris, you get to see his attempts at rebellion from your control in a more favorable light and more of his humanity in failing to do so
>>If you hate Kris, you get to watch him give up hope and give into your control
>If you like Ralsei, his concerns and fears about you are justified along with the withholding of information to thwart us
>>If you hate Ralsei, you get to actively work against him and the prophecy
>If you like Berdly, he becomes an actual righteous hero slain in his prime
>>If you hate Berdly, you kill him
>If you like shipping, you get some of the most emotionally charged tension of the game with Noelle
>>If you hate shipping, you will potentially get to kill/doom/consume/delete everyone

In conclusion regardless of your background WR is the objectively best path to follow at this point in time. Want Yuri? Heres tragic Yuri NTR with reverse rape. Want Hetero? You mind break a bisexual deer so hard that she kills a your reverse rape victim by proxy. You want tragic Yaoi? Goat boy is going to have to kill you after you have killed Kris. Tangible stakes? Berdly is the first but not last character on the chopping block. It’s a win/win regardless and I am ALL for it.

Whether Noelle kills us or we ultimately kill them or Gastor bitch slaps us out the game we are going to be eating good, it's just great for absolutely everyone!
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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I think it's super cool that Toby Fox was able to create a game such as deltarune despite being an amateur developer!
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The vessel?
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Good morning PinKris nation how we feeling today
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smokin' herbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ7k7GNno9k
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>>572839941
>SA-
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My favorite two!
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no, i haven't heard back from them. have you?
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Mark my words, Froggit moment will happen, and you'll have to replay the whole-ass game from the very beginning to access final dungeon/true final boss and the happy ending. Got all recruits, all Shadow Crystals? Sorry, you made a wrong choice all the way back in Chapter 2, no Happy Ending to you!
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>>572840139
kill yourself ban evading schizo
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>>572839959
Feeling like a PinkMe kinda day
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>>572839683
Hoo...
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>>572839941
If the Shadow Crystal's world is one from Kris's broken dream, then the Dreemurr family was never broken by the tragedy and that's Asgore and Toriel's second biological child
Togore Real
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How the Fuck.
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>>572839959
I've had Cutie Mew Mew Magic on repeat for an hour, send help
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>The Knight when they are told to just use a different lock
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>>572840265
>Toriel
>swallowing her pride and calling Carol
Will never happen lol
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Carol really loses fucking everything in weird route
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really need a seth buttjob right about now
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>>572840375
It's Krises all the way down
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>>572840325
...man!
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>>572839758
Characters get more interesting in dire straights. We get to see what they're really made out of. Wouldn't want one without the other though, the cute adventures on the normal side make the knife twists that much more impactful.
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>>572840312
I refuse to believe they're taking this that seriously if the codes are hidden anywhere but in a safe buried 6 feet underground
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Is the lightworld a dream?
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I relate most with Berdly and Asgore.
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>>572840539
>the cute adventures on the normal side make the knife twists that much more impactful.
True
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>>572840539
straits
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>>572840384
Mew Mew tasukete!
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me otr
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Why does Queen have the power to make "another" Roaring Knight? Doesn't this scene also basically confirm that the RK is a fusion of a Human (SOUL) with at least 1 monster? Or that the original RK is actually made of these three?
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>>572840570
>Is the lightworld a dream?
No. She's inferring something beyond both light and dark, meta awareness
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>>572840590
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Official designs
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>>572840323
Valid. Although I prefer Me x Maddie
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>>572840539
more like dire gays
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>>572840312
>*So, you wanna tell me why you shattered the glass with Flowery? Y'know, the one place the code was at?
>*HE WAS KICKING MY ASS!!!
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>>572840665
queen has no idea what the fuck she's talking about
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>>572840575
Solid band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IwPNKS9IUg
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>>572840665
no you fucking goober watch the cutscene again she says any Lightner can make a fountain she just wants more fountains christ I hate you theory fags
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>>572840665
How did you draw that conclusion from that scene? I think she was just saying "the knight abandoned us, I have to get another lightner to make more fountains for us"
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So Kris is canonically AFAB right? We got 2 very solid bits of evidence. Firstly Aqua who is very clearly meant to be like a younger Kris is extremely female coded. Secondly is Kris and Noelle arguing about who would be King and who would be Queen. Since Noelle is only ever presented as female this only makes sense if Kris was arguing for being Queen themself which points heavily towards female Kris too.
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>>572840724
are the bugs just real bugs or what?
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ME LIKE!!!!
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>>572840873
>So Kris is canonically AFAB right
Kris is cannonically Kris. It's not hard.
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>>572840795
He died as he lived, baiting everyone
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why is susie's last name guitar?
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>>572840958
Susie coded reply
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>>572840873
idk but I do know that the game will never confirm either way
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>>572840873
kris is kris, their agab doesnt matter
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>>572839758
Spamton's fight was the best part. I can take or leave the gay teenagers.
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>>572840873
Excellently crafted troll post or someone who is too illiterate to read somehow posting on 4chan, take your pick.
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>>572839848
Dumb lil video I made cause I was bored
https://files.catbox.moe/fvqy0n.mp4
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>>572840439
You're assuming that Noelle is dead. According to ARG she still need to be present to make coldwater fall from the sky.
>but what about "used up"
Didn't happen yet, useless to speculate
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>>572841006
It's her middle name, she was conceived during a Van Halen solo
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>>572841006
play it again, Susie Guitar
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>>572841006
Her dad's name was Johnny.
Play it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl2KnCumdmA
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Something I noticed in this concept art is that the blue + yellow and the cyan + purple sparkles are paired up together which makes sense because they show up as duos throughout the chapter.
But the orange and green sparkles are separated by Flowery's head. That seems oddly specific because even though they get a duo fight they're not treated as much of a pair beyond that within the game. Is the game saying something about the colors green and orange?
Please tell me this makes sense to you and doesn't come off as schizobabble.
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>>572840873
I think that might be the implication but it's probably not gonna catch on as common consensus. People really seem attached to Kris having a willy even though I don't think that was ever the intention. I don't think the game will be explicit on the state of the teenage protagonist's genitals either way.
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>>572840724
did they release anything of the flowers
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>>572840873
No. Noelle wants to be king because she's bossy and forced Kris to hang out with her.
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>>572841065
it's not that excellent, didn't even bring up the princess ribbon or how kris objectively looks better in the girl variant of costumes
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>>572841295
Green and orange are already together on his vest.
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>>572841138
I like it :)
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>>572841393
*drops drink* holy shit
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imagine being noelle's queen
i would do it even if i am a man
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>>572840539
>Wouldn't want one without the other though, the cute adventures on the normal side make the knife twists that much more impactful.
This so much, seeing Susie trying her hardest to have fun with Kris after missing the festival wouldn't have hit nearly as hard whitout doing the normal route first
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>>572841295
normally i'm the first to schizopost, but considering that is third party artwork i think they probably just got paired cause the colours go well together. unless you think toby tied her to a chair and explained his true lore to her over 4-5 hours.
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>>572840873
>So Kris is canonically AFAB right?
Just say female if you mean female
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>>572841523
NO
QUEEN
HAS OBVIOUSLY
GOT
TO
BE
QUEEN
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Family Photo!
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>>572840439
Carol earthbound depression fangame when
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>>572840873
Aqua is actually how Asgore views Kris and Aqua is extremely female-coded because Asgore doesn't want to be gay so to rationalize all the times he has cum inside Kris as being a straight act Aqua is extremely female coded.
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>>572841295
While there's a good chance there's some sort of meaning here, if you can't find it, it's safe to assume it's just for aesthetics. Green and Orange naturally look good together. Like a carrot.
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>>572841138
Cheer up little apple, the day ain't done yet
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>>572841138
lol
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Kris and the Krizzlers
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>>572841138
this put a huge dumb smile on my face when I realized what it would be, and then it delivered on the premise. thanks anon
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>>572841576
Excuse me we call them foids here, they demanded to be called as such.
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Toby making Genocide and Weird Route be like
>yes i will now make the single most boring thing imaginable
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>>572841138
The true friend was inside Me all along
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>>572841560
>unless you think toby tied her to a chair and explained his true lore to her over 4-5 hours.
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>>572841523
That means she pegs you
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>>572839758
I like the game for the comedy and I'm sentimental so I dislike the concept of torturing characters I've grown connected to for seemingly no reason. Also I don't care about shipping very much
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>>572841138
Deltarune took so long to make Kris became Friend Inside Me
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>>572841761
Wow, someone sure was angy about their theory getting proven wrong and hates the new one.
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>>572841761
lmao this is how i feel about it too. it's so fucking complex and stupid. no one would write a real plot like that. only people who watch the shittiest of anime think this is possible.
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>>572841739
this but unironically, doesnt matter though because the story is cool and all, but god is it boring, wish it were a novel instead or something
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>>572841821
i fear noelle might be not gentle about it so i should pass for my safety
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>>572841761
This was made by an assblasted Alvinknightfag
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>>572841761
What knight theory would this person even ascribe to?
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>>572839959
Pink relentlessly fingering Kris
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WHEN DO I GET TO FUCK RALSEI
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>>572842031
deltarune if it were good
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>>572842031
>>572841568
You two, kiss, sloppy style, holding hands, against the wall, panting heavily with a saliva trail at the end.
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My theory is that the Knight isn't an actual character.


What I mean is that he's not anyone, he's not a person with an interior life, he's just 'The Knight', he exists solely because the Prophecy needs a Knight to exist. He is, basically, a generic bad guy in the most literal sense possible, he exists because the plot needs the Knight to exists and that's it.
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>>572840819
>>572840821
Okay but in that scene she merges the portraits of Kris, Susie and Noelle while saying that since the Knight left she will "make another one". If any lightner could open up a dark fountain then she could just have asked Berdly to make it.
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>>572840665
She means making another fountain stop speedreading
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>>572839941
Is Kris' HP randomized here? It's a different value every time I see the beginning of ch5.
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>>572842070
The oft-forgotten theory that the Knight's identity and real situation can't be solved with the information available to us now.
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>>572842170
You need explain the antlers and the bat though
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>>572842170
Okay, but why does it kidnap people?
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>>572842070
Some real "The knight is nobody, they were always an original character and not a hidden identity" energy coming off that image. That or it's a Papyrus knighter with a good sense of humor.
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>>572841812
>(Spoilery.)
>(Add to Ralsei's room?)
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>>572842146
I don't know if I want to I'm not a "homo"
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>>572842270
why would it be papyrus.
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So we're Maddie and Kris is Pink right? That's the metaphor Toby was going for? It feels like it should be the other way round to me because Kris the angry dickhead and i'm just a nice guy who wants to do the best thing for everyone.
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>>572842246
Red herring. WHoever or whatever formed the knight made it look like that on purpose as a meta misdirection.

>>572842264
Because the Prophecy require it to. It's essentially an automaton following a script.
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>>572842270
>That or it's a Papyrus knighter with a good sense of humor.
I choose to believe this as it's less depressing if someone was seriously seething
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>>572842175
Very cute and good image!
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>>572841761
amalgamknight stinks of people getting distracted by the new shiny thing and basing everything off that. i respect the insane theorists who stay consistent more than those guys.
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>>572840539
This is why I enjoy murderous neutral routes, betrayal kills, and geno in Undertale. I dont enjoy killing the characters but I enjoy seeing how they try to pull through.
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>>572841761
It all makes sense when you find out a FNAF fan came up with the theory. All of the evidence consists of thematic parallels with much more logical explanations being bent to serve the theory and any time you criticize it the rebuttal is "it would be cool doe"
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>>572841603
Why is Jevil sad
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Hey guys :3 this my deltarune OC. His name is Flowery(similar to flowey) and he is neither a lightner nor a darkner. He's super cool and nice to everyone. He has max stat in everything and can fly. He knows about the game mechanics and can manipulate them. Also he plays voice lines when he speaks :3
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>>572842384
>Red herring. WHoever or whatever formed the knight made it look like that on purpose as a meta misdirection.
do you feel shame? do you feel the weight of your sins as you lie through your teeth, lie that this is something anyone would ever write into their story? do you feel God's wrathful eyes on the backside of your skull?
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>>572842384
>WHoever or whatever formed the knight made it look like that on purpose as a meta misdirection.
And you have evidence to back up this informed idea?

>>572842364
Being absent the last possible character to be suspected. Also he wanted to be part of the guard in UT, so thematically it works.
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>>572842170
But why does it do all the posing with the same poses Kris does and the laughing
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>>572842485
His fat worthless stupid failure of an ex Spamton is next to him
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If one's my girlfriend does that make it cheating to have sex with them since they're two?
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>>572842420
That's what all the other theories are though.
Literally every theory was based off of individual throwaway lines like Spamton going "Mike... Ooh Mike... What a real character Mike is going to be... That horrible day with Mike..." etc. and look how that turned out.
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If Queen implies that Carol is secretly quirky and wacky, does King imply that Rudy is secretly a massive sinister piece of shit who loves his kids?
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>>572842420
It's a theory running entirely on hype moments and aura and doesn't have enough evidence to sustain itself yeah, expect it to fall hard in like 2 months
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>>572842564
Spamton is skinny though, he's the skinniest one there
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>>572842501
He looks like the coolest character ever!
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>>572842514
alright Toby, now I can forgive you for not adding a joke to the "but its name wasn't YELLOW..." spare text on Yellow
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Those who played Umineko already know what the true identity of the Knight is.
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>>572842606
>does King imply that Rudy is secretly a massive sinister piece of shit who loves his kids?
It would give ammo to Rudy-Knight believers
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>>572842501
Can I please ship him with Fluttershy
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>>572839683
So what was this about? (You) silently reveling in how you have mindbroken Kris?
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>>572839758
hell yeah
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>>572842606
no, king is susie's father parallel
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>>572842564
Tenna plz get off 4chan
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>>572842514
THAT COWBOY
OUTSIDE OF HIM
HES TOO POWERFUL
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Amalgamknight sucks. The creepypasta shouldnt feed back into the main story.
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>>572842675
I played Mother 3 instead.
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>>572842031
love her evil gross ass mouth
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>>572842501
Flowery proves that people don't actually hate Gary Stus or perfect characters, they just usually aren't written very well
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>>572842514
What a gentleman.
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>mfw I went on e621 looking for Dess art and was assaulted by fatfag art and an ungodly amount of tranny shit
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>>572841761
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>>572842675
It's definitely Natsuhi that bitch
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>>572842727
Kris having a brain aneurysm trying not to think of any response for us to say
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I MISS MY FLOWER BROSSSSSS
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>>572842364
The theory originated in chapter 2, mostly based on
>Papyrus's eventual appearance being repeatedly teased suggesting he might turn out to be somehow important
>Egg in his Undertale date tying him to the forgotten man
>Wingdings for EGG being hands that point left, up, up, like the movement a knight makes in chess
>Wanted to be a knight-like figure in Undertale
>Him being one of the largest characters in the games, so he fits the closet from chapter 2
* (The closet is spacious and full of old electronics.)
* (A large person could easily fit inside.)
And I guess now you could add that the roaring knight can open its ribcage like a skeleton
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>>572842070
I completely share that opinion and lean Dess knight but I'm open to most candidates, just not Kriselle knight since it makes so little logical or thematic sense
Would Rudy knight assassinate his current character and the building drama around it? Sure, but I think what it would be replaced with could be just as interesting
Does Carol knight have some plot holes? Sure, but they aren't too hard to patch (there are gaster sounds in their basement so for all we know she DOES have a secret tunnel that let her get to the church unnoticed)
Is Asriel knight a stretch with relatively little evidence? Sure, but that lack of information surrounding Asriel means the theory can't be wholly shut down either (and having him do villainous acts to try to bring his missing girlfriend back could be an interesting story)
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Did all the Kresspedos move onto Pinkris?
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>>572842779
It takes really good writing and an appropriate setting to make such a character work. I'm pretty sure one of the reasons he got killed off was because maintaining him for longer wouldd be hell.
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>>572842727
Kris is biting his tongue
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>>572842501
Lol he really does feel like a donut steel OC when you type his characteristics plainly
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>>572842791
>deltarune tag
>an ungodly amount of tranny shit
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>>572842732
The King aren't Queen aren't exclusive in their parallel qualities.
Queen gets drunk like Toriel does. That whole spiel where she talks about Kris 'not having opinions' being why she likes them could be telling.
Also King is also just as much of a parallel for Asgore with the whole revenge schtick.
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Will Berdly ever score?
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>>572842791
They have a really detailed and strongly enforced tagging system. You can exclude tags with an en dash before the word or throw in an order:score to only see the most popular art first.
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>>572842170
The knight is too smug for that, it's clearly enjoying whatever it does to some extent that isn't just animalistic
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>>572842834
I onlg believe in rudy knight because it further feeds into my rudy x asgore ntring flowery fantasies
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i love my toxic kriselles and scary noelles
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We already know who the real boss of the Knight is.

After all. HE IS ALREADY HERE.
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>>572843053
>Also King is also just as much of a parallel for Asgore with the whole revenge schtick.
Would probably be more of a parallel to Susie's dad if anything.
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>>572839758
>If you hate Kris, you get to watch him give up hope and give into your control
but this doesn't happen
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Micheal Afton is the knight
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>>572842727
Noelle was speaking to Carol and needed to borrow the dialog choice script
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>>572843127
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>>572843230
no dude the knight is his robot copying him making dark fountains from back in the day obviously
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toby pretty clearly likes it when his fanbase makes theories, i dont get the resentment some people have for it
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Asriel is the Knight because Asriel killing Flowey is cool
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>>572843230
Makes sense. The knight's armor has an openable rib cage like springlock suits.
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FAVE MISSES GOING TO THE KONBINI TO BUY COLD SANDWICHES
TAKE FAVE BACK TO JAPAN!
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>>572843223
why is kris crying?
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>>572843053
>>572843202
Wait they already mentioned that nevermind.
But Asgore isn't exactly seeking revenge, his obsession is more about clearing his own name (if only to himself) and proving that he was right.
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>>572842834
>Why do they keep coming... to the hospital...
huh
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>>572842779
Flowery isn't actually perfect though. He's pretty weak which is what makes his courage and aura all the cooler at the end when you realize he's not a dick just a guy truly fighting for what he thinks is right.
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>>572842514
He would really be the perfect boyfriend if he wasn't a faggot
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>>572843308
duuuuuuuude Mimicknight new theory!!!
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>>572842087
I like your perspective
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Kind of surprised this is one of the more sane places for theory discussion it's rancid elsewhere
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>>572843358
cucked too hard
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>>572842031
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>>572842727
It's just a classic case of deer in the headlights, when you get caught off guard and are too much panicked/stunned to think of a reply
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>>572842779
You should play an otome
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>>572843356
go hug your tenna daki
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>>572843508
In return for allowing blatant faggotry you get half decent takes on the actual story and gameplay
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So what are the implications of FRIEND looking like the dog amalgamation in undertale
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>>572841138
its... KINO !
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They key is that the Knight si neither a Lightner or a Darkner. They're a conceptual entity coming from a higher meta-plane and doesn't follow the regular rules of the 'game board' that is Hometown and the Dark Worlds.

They're like the Titans, the Knight is a fundamental embodiment of SOMETHING rather than an Object-Turned-Sentient (Darkner) or a 'real' person.
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>>572843641
reused assets by gaster
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What's utterly hilarious is that if the Knight is revealed to be anyone but Dess, a crashout of ungodly proportions is gonna hit social media that makes the rose incident look like child's play.
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So there's multiple factions at play in the story
>Heroes
>Team Knight (Knight + Kris, Carol probably involved)
>Gaster + minions
>Whoever forced us into Kris (they shouldn't be aligned with Gaster)
It could be that team Knight put us in Kris, what do you guys think?
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>>572842727
I think this is kind of like the start of the weird routeӖ in Chapter 5, since Kris doesn't say anything at the beginning before going to see Susie
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>>572843508
It's like a public open square of ancient greek philosophers plus a few guys who live in a barrel and get drunk and jerk off in front of everyone.
Truly no better place for discourse and serious debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6AfmiuYFMQ
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let me tell you bout my best friend
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>>572843608
I'm a faggot myself so I lose nothing in this arrangement
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>>572842834
I don't totally believe in Rudy Knight but I don't understand why people find it so ridiculous either.
He makes more sense than Carol at least.
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I think the next Knight encounter will be outside of a regular battle where it attacks you in the same vein as Dante in Nocturne
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>>572843720
There was no "rose incident", you're making up things in your head
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>>572843361
Sure, but revenge was at least part of it.
You don't parade someone's corpse around town out of rational, unemotional response to an ill act done against you.
King doesn't have fit all the qualities. King and Queen are amalgamates of the Lightner's that are in the lives of the characters.
I think that logic could also apply to Rudy if it was used on Carol.
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come again? COME AGAIN?
come in player 1? COME IN??
coming! COMING!!
coming straight to YOUR house!
coming out of 10!!
COMING!!
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The knight just made 1 million flowerys
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>>572843527
are you saying my enby dipshit ???gendered semi-sexual suckshitter is...

ENBYOUS OF SUSELLE?
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>>572843641
Endogeny is the result of monsters being filled with too much Determination
Dark Worlds are created by focusing your Determination into a blade
FRIEND is given as an example of a creature in the Dark World which you can reach through Determination
There's some connections but hell if I know what they mean
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>>572843938
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>>572843812
I'd guess it's because it would be an assassination of his current character since he's endangering people he supposedly cares about and as of chapter 5 has kidnapped his best friend. I don't see that as a reason to entirely dismiss it though since it could be interesting from a lot of different lenses. Some kind of Faustian bargain where he takes on the role and duties of the knight to extend his life, for example
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why do my pubes smell incredible
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>>572843223
He was talking about the weird route anon, Kris definitely gives up completely after you force him out of bed
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WE ARE FLOWER MAN
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People are ragequitting Chapter 5 because it's "too difficult."
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>>572844080
Shut up berdly
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Within the context of Deltarune as a video game that you're playing with game mechanics that the characters are subordinate to The Knight has Admin powers which is why it can ignore Flowery's blatant cheating
That's why I think it being any normal Lightner doesn't sound right because can you imagine Carol or Rudy being able to do that willy nilly
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Could the Knight beat everyone in Castle Town we've recruited?
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>>572844080
If you washed them recently that would explain
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>>572844130
They can't even beat Kris if he stops sandbagging
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>>572844080
mine smell like nothing i havent showered since the month before the last one
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>>572843527
Kris deserves it because they keep self sabotaging even without our input.
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>>572843812
No it doesn't, there's no foreshadowing whatsoever and would turn Rudy in one of those absurd anime characters who fake an entire persona in front of you to reveal their super secret agenda which I find rather distasteful writing
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>>572844116
I mean, it did step up the difficulty somewhat, but it's also evenly spread throughout the chapter, so it was still a very nice non-sweaty experience. Even the secret boss wasn't that hard.
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>>572844116
i have a friend who took like 50 attempts to beat flowery even after they patched it. i don't think they even try the secret bosses anymore.
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>>572843752
That's from chapter 4 when Susie asks what Kris and Noelle were talking about when they were alone you fucking fake fan
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>>572843984
They're eating my flesh
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confess your sins
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>>572844116
imagine being too dumb to go into a text file and put a number up
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>>572843641
FRIEND is the amalgam of Kris, Noelle, Susie, Ralsei, Berdly, and Pizzapants from the future past
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Fish I wish
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>>572843328
The episodic nature of releases is making people schizophrenic and it's wearing thin. Look at Undertale. People smoked crack and pulled out cork boards to do Gaster shit and after a few months it got "solved" in the sense that there was some consensus about broad things and everyone sort of moved on because it's a complete package that you analyze however you decide to and that's that. It's just the fact that this theory brain stuff has people do what would be a post launch frenzy stretched out over, idk, seven fucking years.

This isn't some webcomic where the big reveal of a plot point is only one week away at any point nor is it a finished product. People are just doing the same smoke crack and pull out corkboard thing but now it's smoking crack for seven years straight and every year they have to toss out their corkboards and replace them with a new one. I certainly don't mind people having fun arguing about plot points that may or may not ever meaningfully exist but there is a sort of vibe of ultimate futility about it. I've seen people on here have complete breakdowns over shit like The Knight and it's just something that's gonna be unceremoniously revealed X years from now.
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>>572844209
>Plops down between them
>Puts arm around Noelle
>*Hey Noelle, remember all those times I played piano for you for hours?
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Top 5 characters in Deltarune most likely to say faggot and why:

GO
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>>572843230
The man behind the slaughter...
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>>572844116
This is good please filter them so I can keep having a game that's challenging enough to actually be fun
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>>572843425
This dialogue from Noelle is the same even if you skipped going to the hospital before this scene I will admit there is a non-zero chance this could just be an oversight
>>572843736
>>572843712
We also can't forget Kris' "demon summoning" thing which is almost certainly actually going to be important now
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>>572844289
Ralsei gave me an existential crisis years ago as a teen (I'm straight now though thankfully)
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>>572844116
good. I want the game to start forcing me to use healing items by chapter 7
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>>572844318
toast to thee. fishler.
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>>572844362
Spamton (hates gay people)
Pizzapants (hates gay people)
Carol (hates gay people)
Noelle (hates gay people)
Jevil (can do anything)
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>>572844362
Number 1, Alphys, reason: Gamer Moment
Number 2, Kris, reason: Dr Andonuts teen version
Number 3, Bratty, reason: Evil
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You think Jerma985 can beatbox Black Knife?
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>>572844401
>I'm straight now though
I find that hard to believe, anon
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>>572844362
Berdly
Berdly
Berdly
Berdly
Berdly
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>>572844318
sucks how all the undertales are totally irrelevant here
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>>572844116
who said this
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>>572844401
You can't outrun the gay thoughts forever.
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>>572844362
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did you kids tried to leave hometown?
this town had a family... bad time.
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>>572844050
I mean, I think even if Rudy isn't the knight its obvious his current personality is kind of a positive facade he puts on around the kids so that they don't worry about his illness.
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>>572844493
Carol hates her husband?
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>>572844543
Undyne was created solely to job so that Gerson and Susie can look better in Deltarune, Toby's true dream project
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>>572844401
how do you get from being hungry for dick to going vegan?
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>>572844578
I just imagine what they will look like when we are in our 40s in bed and that works
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>>572844613
Dying guy pretending it isn't so bad to make the people around him suffer less is a very different (and much more reasonable) light than him being the knight would paint him in
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>>572844362
>Susie
Says it because Ralsei is being a faggot
>Ralsei
Says it because Susie told him it means cool
>Kris
Forced to say it to Ralsei against his will
>Alphys
Calls herself a gross ugly faggot in the mirror every morning while sobbing
>Berdly
His final word before Snowgrave
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>>572844116
Not going to lie, the Mew Mew bomb attacks filtered the fuck out of me. I did beat Flowery first try, but it was very very close. I'm probably going to replay it at some point because I'm pretty sure I even ended up using my Revive Dust
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>>572844626
Yeah that's why he "befriended" Asgore.
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>>572844362
1. Carol (she's GOP)
2. Spamton (he was fed the info)
3. Ralsei (he is one)
4. Gerson (it was a different time)
5. Pizzapants (he wanted to say it really badly but he was in public)
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>>572844681
wait till you hear what happens to women in their 40s
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fishelle (is she racist?)
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>>572844362
Me
You
3 Other Posters here
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>>572844785
>sleep with the fishes
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>>572844768
In comparison to men? More gracefully.
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>>572844765
carol is.... gagging on pingus?
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>>572844768
If there was ever a time for the hand on shoulder image it was now.
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>>572844362
gaster and his gangsters
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>>572844050
>>572844613
>>572844735
A father going to the utmost extremes to get his lost daughter back could be a very touching story... Especially if those extremes turn out to be what's killing him
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How did this Chapter end up becoming such a massive filter, both in terms of narrative and gameplay? Is the Deltarune community's ideal Chapter really a piss-easy creepypasta ARG exposition dump?
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>>572844867
lol
lmao
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>>572844116
I was kind of eating shit throughout the chapter because... I don't even know, but it wasn't THAT hard
Definitely far from the most difficult thing out there, the clip someone posted here one day of a gook dying multiple times from trying to do the platforming flowers to get to Pink really puts into perspective just how much the average person sucks at games in general
It really feels like they haven't played any other video game besides DR to have those skills transfer over, or understand that some aspects rely on patterns
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>>572844736
>Susie forgets she taught Ralsei that word and gets angry when he calls her a faggot a week later
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>>572844867
Foid post
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this image right here is so cute
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the real reason rudy isnt the knight is because he's andrew hussie's dad

the real reason mettaton is the knight is because he's toby's brandish OC
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>>572844938
You laugh but it's true. Law of averages favors women, not men half the time. You can get good looking men past 40 but it's not the rule. Or at least over here, I'm not american.
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>>572844867
I'll take Rudy at age 40, thanks.
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>YOU FAH-GET BOYY YOUU GOTTASUCKMY MOTHA-FUGGIN DIIIIIIIIIIIUCK
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>>572844867
LMAO
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I am the Knight.
Ask me anything.
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you're all ugly, you can't be lookists
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>>572844935
the word 'filler' has ravaged nerd communities.
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>>572845191
Speak for yourself, lover boy
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>>572844935
It's an intentional filter so only people who vibe with Toby Fox's Ultimate Vision can Proceed to the end
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>>572844935
asking people to play a video game is a big ask nowadays
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>"My name..? I never did tell you my full name did I Kris. Gaster... Susie D.Gaster... so my old man was doing something in this Bunker huh..? He never left me on purpose."
>"Cheer up Susie! Now we're one step closer to finding the Knight! Gosh I can't wait to tell my cousin, Rory Nyte all about these adventures.."
>"Noelle.. doesn't that name sound REALLY similar to... to the ROARING KNIGHT..? Ralsei.. you have some explaining to do."
>"Lets get meta! Did you know the song we hear when fighting the knight is called Black Knife? Maybe that's a clue"
>"Kris always carries a knife... Kris, what happens to it when we enter a dark world?"
>"Huh? None of you ever noticed that black thing flying out of his pocket whenever we enter one?"
>"His knife.. turns black when we go into a dark world..? And we only see the Knight in here.. and his song is called BLACK KNIFE?! Kris! It's the knife!"
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>>572844735
We don't know why the Knight is making dark worlds though. They obviously must have /some/ reason if Kris is helping them. If he had a good enough reason it wouldn't be any more of a change of character than Kris has when making dark worlds.
We just don't know enough about the knight's motivations.
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I feel so sorry for the people here who can’t appreciate hags/milfs/dilfs
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>>572845191
I don't have to be pretty if I'm gay.
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>*How's the plan going, honey?
>*They still don't know about the secret sewer entrance to the church so they don't suspect me at all. They're onto you, though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PZrJST8qko
This dude just reiterated Twisted Route theory (that existed since Chapter 2 and can be described in a single short paragraph) for 22 whole-ass minutes, and presented it as his own theory.
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>>572845191
I will look wherever I please
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>>572845176
Will I ever love again
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>>572845176
be ye a pirate?
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Rudy is the Knight, simply because I love the idea of a man on death’s door (in the real world) with incredible power (in the fantasy world).
Thank you for your attention to this post!
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>>572845317
See the fact you're saying that means you're not actually gay.

Gay men are lookists as fuck.
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>>572845302
This guy knows where it's at
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>if i cope hard enough nothing bad will happen
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I want to BE Flowery.
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>>572845176
why do you go from looking like a zombie to flexing on susie on a whim
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>>572844935
how is the gameplay in ch. 5 a filter
easiest chapter so far
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>>572845054
Lift the boy
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>>572845302
same but for the children who have to share oxygen with the aqua pedophiles
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i am almost 33, not good looking, but i can still do the chad poses, so checkmate shallow looks prioritizers, my personality wins it all.

also i post goats, so i win again.
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>>572845442
he trusts (you) to stop kris
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>>572845442
I hope this blows up on Ralsei's face as (You) Kris does something he finds unforgivable
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>>572845351
AUUUUUGH AIIIIIEEE I'm so UPSET ABOUT THIS that I MUST KILL MYSEEEEELF!!!! *ties self up next to big laser death cannon*
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Do you think the thorn ring is going to be weird route exclusive?
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>>572845317
That's not how that works...
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>>572845191
Im average and proud. Plus monsters canonically cant tell whether a human is handsome or not
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>>572845442
Somehow every chapter makes me like Ralsei less.
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>>572845351
Okay, yes, but SpookyDood is cool and I like him. He's a fun guy.
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Watching other people fight Pink is pissing me off.
Why even bother wasting TP on regular *Flirt and not using Ralsei's lovely boy ACT? Some don't even bother to check Ralsei's ACTs at all.
There's no way so many were struggling on the fight due to illiteracy.
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>>572845460
kris does this platonically, has a fun time and feels zero attraction
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>>572845526
found the fanboy
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>>572845460
kissu
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>>572845383
>>572845384
no
>>572845453
high weight, low reps
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Rudy didn't actually fall down, he just told his wife he was about to so she'd feel bad enough for him to give him head
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what is this unc doing in the zoomer general bru
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>>572845351
I've had a TwistedSword route save file since chapter 2, what does that make me?
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>>572843812
Rudy's character being two-faced and living a double life is kinda absurd.

The chapter 1 talk scenes in particular in the hospital are just strange read through the lens of "Kris and Rudy both talked about this soul thing beforehand and agreed when meeting to act like they never met before and keep kay-fab flawlessly the whole time." It's not impossible. It's just kinda absurd.

Far more likely that Kris would just try to hide the Knight's identity rather than 'trick' the soul, like Kris does with the Shelter Codes.
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https://youtu.be/OPoTqWlHY3k

thread sucks post aqua
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What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.
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>>572845681
>high weight, low reps
That's the opposite of what you want to do
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lancer would say erm....... what the diddy blud
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Rudy x Noelle
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Does anyone have the timelapse video of that Korean guy trying to do the platforming in Flower Castle?
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>>572845442
Does Ralsei know Kris is specifically working with the Knight? Obviously he knows about the Fountains, and on the weird route he does seem to Know Things, but I'm starting to wonder if that's being set up as another betrayal
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>>572845602
it's a good fight because it filters everyone who just skims the text, because they won't even process what lovelyboy does
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>>572844681
ralsei doesn't age faggot, he remains a cute twink/femboy until the end of times
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>>572845701
this is the unc general sonny
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looks don't matter that much, within reason, if you actually love them and legitimately want them to be happy
but yall are selfish and will never feel that
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>>572845740
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>>572845768
Hometown is actually Sodom from the Bible. Carol gets turned into salt and the two do the deed to preserve the family line.
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>>572845885
stopped reading at "yall"
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>>572845885
First bite is with the eye, anon
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>>572845885
That's why I love ralsei even though his dick is bigger than mine, making me the gay one
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>>572845809
you don't know that, because you don't know what his light world form is
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>>572845191
I know I'm ugly and I wouldn't be able to ever get a date to save my life but I don't participate in normal human interactions so I judge looks in my head sometimes because it doesn't affect anyone at all
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>>572845920
>Salt route
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>>572845869
Kiddos these days need to learn how to respect their elders.
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>>572845727
a FAG!!!
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>>572845885
stopped reading at feel that
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>>572843812
I believe there's 2 knights and it's rudy AND carol
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The Knight is Dess's Heartless and the idiot in the code is Dess's Nobody
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>>572845602
Wait until you see what players do on the date sections. They're allergic to reading or at least processing what they've read. I give ESL players a pass but if you're a native English speaker and puns like Tear Up or Match Her Style are filtering you, you should be embarrassed.
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>>572845809
It is a common theory that his lifespan is short. If he's a personification of a prophecy, then he fades away once prophecy has run it's course. If he's a darkner representation of the DEVICE, he's gonna be turned off once the game is done. etc
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NEW CRACK THEORY, TAKING ALL INPUT:

Rudy is clearly deeply ill, but in a way that does let him be up and about when he's not getting treatment at the hospital. A good days, bad days sort of illness. Cancer would fit the bill, and chemotherapy could definitely account for fluctuating levels of strength in his normal, corporeal body.

The Knight is his tumor.
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>>572845963
>what his light world form is
a Twinkie
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>>572845652
Trvke
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>>572845885
look
we get it
you're fat
there are folks into that
no need to make a fuss about it
its current year we can all just enjoy our own preferences
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>>572846014
fax brother
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>>572845959
first bite is all you're ever going to get with that mentality
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>>572846063
CUT
Susie you have to look anywhere except at the camera sweetie
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>>572846014
stop spamming this image
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>>572845676
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toby gave up lol
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>>572846176
This is just what Doomer does.
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aqua probably smells weird
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Imagine you're whoever is involved in the Knight conspiracy and you've placed all your hopes on a terminally ill guy to get the job done
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>>572846142
The point is first impressions are important. Fuck that up and it's a mountain climb
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human.... i remember you're gelbooru searches...
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Uuu...uuu...
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Would it be a stretch to say that Catty and Sonic (fail to) understand romantic relationships in a similar way
I don’t go there
It’s pertinent that her ideal future is “roommate with pets” rather than “married with kids” even if we are meant to infer that the kittens are indeed her children
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>>572846176
he's just found new avatars after he kept getting banned with his old ones. it's frankly embarrassing.
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>>572844401
Glad you got through the other end as a normal person. Media has a way of tricking us into thinking things like "boys can be cute the way girls are cute" which works in fiction and in reality falls apart. Still fun to dream though.
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>>572846063
>*waves at soos*
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>>572846063
Don't look at me like that, I haven't done anything
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>>572846225
of course the spamming schizo has a name christ
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>>572846157
>>572846306
>>572846326
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>>572846235
he isn't sick.
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who the fuck uses gelbooru in 2026
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>>572846247
>. i remember you're gelbooru
Anon, it's "YOUR". You don't add the 're unless you're shortening "you are".
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>>572846157
>Susie does all voice lines perfectly in practice
>as soon as the camera is rolling, she looks directly into it and overpronounces every word
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>>572844429
Cheers, mate
>>572844543
I mean, it's still /utg/ here, right?
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>>572846397
what would i use, dan's booru? all the fallen?
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>>572845602
At the beginning I overused lovely boy ACT, I kept using it even after MaxTP is 100. At the end I decided to stop with LovelyBoy once MaxTP reach 40, hearts in concert turns allow you to get tons of MaxTP points.
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>>572846381
why does she look like she's vaguely flirting with the camera here
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>>572846414
Anon... do you not know you're genocides shitposts?
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>>572846381
I remember twitter getting super mad about this image
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>>572846414
it's "yor'eu". don't capitalize contractions.
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>>572846284
But anon-chan, I think dicks are really attractive while vaginas are disgusting.
But I like boobs.
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>>572846492
realbooru
transgender + taker_pov
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>>572846541
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>>572846541
wow.
who gives a shit what mentally ill people think.
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>>572846063
>Every year of my life I grow more and more convinced that the wisest and the best is to fix our attention on the good and the beautiful
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>>572844543
Most video game franchises have the benefit of actual continuity between games so any characters in the first game tend to carry over into the next ones.
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kralsei sex
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>>572846428
>Me? I got... Kris and Ralsei behind me.
>Even... even if you knock me down...
>As long as Kris, Ralsei, are here...
>...
>Line?
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>>572841138
this is great
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>>572846096
My crack theory is Rudy becomes the Knight when he uses Kris's original soul which is why it's not only as powerful as it is but also why it looks and behaves so strange and monstrous. This is why the Knight has so many parallels to Kris. Also for whatever reason doing that is actually what's causing him to be sick
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Someone get that freak cat away from Tenna, I don't think he's a good influence
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>>572846561
I would suck her penis
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>>572846209
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>>572839683
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Weird lolcows sure spend a lot of time thinking about the images I post.
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>>572846541
I paid the guy who drew that to make susie in dolphin shorts when I saw that
people who police fictional characters like that are stupid
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>>572846093
I'm ESL, but once I stopped panicking I had trouble only with one question. I had no idea that "date" was a fruit. Or maybe I did, but forgot.
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>>572846676
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>>572846676
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The Knight's true identity is Kris's biological father Frisk
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>>572846851
>>572846885
>>572846920
platonic ideals right off the bat wtf
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>>572846792
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Carol is planning to harvest the soul to save Rudy
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>>572846782
You would try, it's too big for you
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>>572828624 here
Thank you so much for the anon that said >>572833468 this because im at his home rn playing for him on his pc and he didnt seem to notice the yuri and immediatly caught onto the surrogate sister thing. I think that makes the story quite a bit better. Also went with Flowery as Asgore's perfect son instead of gay lover and it seems the ruse is still up
He also believes Rudy is the Knight because "he's too nice no one is ever that nice he's hiding something"
Stopped at the grove zone woth the calming music to eat. The yellow and blue gay shit is easy to swap because blue looks like his wife as is
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>>572846805
i think about the images you post but in the positive meaning and positive light
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ten foot twenty the flower man
told me to draw but i frickin can't
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erm, why didnt pink try to stab you with a knife?
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>>572846093
i got all the other ones but forgot the 'match' one and thought the mew body was just a freak who liked being on fire
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>>572846803
yeah sur- WHAT THE
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>>572846805
>said the biggest lolcow in the general
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>>572846774
Why Rudy rather than Dess? Like everything you just said could be applicable to Dess besides being sick.
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>>572846934
AAAAYEEEEEE
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>>572847079
Aqua stole her knives
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>>572841678
>tfw your life so fake, no one cba to smooth out the "lake shore"
im so sorry, kris. i get you now
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>Rudy dies
>Kris absorbs his soul
>Kris starts growing a Rudy-stache
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>shy twink deer boy that turns schizo and rapeape if pushed hard enough
you just know boy noelle would have had at least six femposters writing novels about getting raped by him on here
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>>572846775
wow i hate this
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>>572846972
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>>572846676
.
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>>572847071
it's very simple anon. grab a pen/pencil, start drawing, and keep going until you get good. See you in a couple of years.
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the fandom is somehow even more miserable after this chapter, fucking hell
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>>572847225
why is ralsei doing 67 while saying this
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>>572847180
I think there would be double the amount fag posters going for him too
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NOELLE JUST WANTS A NEW SISTER, SUSIE
SHE JUST WANTS TO DO SOMETHING REBELLIOUS
KRIS IS THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS
KRIS IS THE ONLY ONE WHO LOVES YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE
PLEASE LOOK AT MY THEY KRIS AGAIN
MY THEY KRIS WILL TREAT YOU RIGHT
PLEASE SUSIE PLEASE
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>>572847180
Unironically better rhan what we got
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>>572847225
this gives "unawareacles" vibes
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>>572847276
He knows about the chapter numbers
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>>572847180
it seems to exclusively be the moids who want to be raped in this general, honestly.
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>>572847008
I'm also posting lots of chapter 5 art too of course, saving at least two dozen new pieces of art or funny meme redraws a day.
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>>572846219
farty dojo
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>>572844768
I’m a fat fetishist that’s a plus to me
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>>572847216
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>>572845809
1000 year old kemoshotegote
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>>572847180
my issue is that he'd be too much of a loser to prompt any kind of creative writing a la berdly but then i saw picrel and went yeah foids would be all over him
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>>572846219
>make dojo not diegetic
>allow to replay boss fights for fun
it's that simple, why doesn't he do that?
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>Kris
>Apple Krisp
>Toriel's baking project gained sentience in the dark world known as "home town"
toby, you sonava bitch. how do you keep doing this
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>>572847525
Is this the gender swapped version who wants to be tomboy prince?
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>>572839848
I made this lil guy. I want you to have it anon.
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>>572847525
>Ralsei is unaware and just thought it looked nice
>Everyone is calling him a girl the whole chapter
>He snaps and casts firegrave on the boss
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>>572845885
Why do you type like a retarded teen on tiktok
Is this pasta?
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>>572847559
your noelle is shaped wrong
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>>572847525
ralsei but worse
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evil tenna feeding all the foids in the general
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>>572842878
>>572842972
So hard that the rain stops?
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>>572847356
Honestly pretty much this the only ones who can't go a single post without talking about rape are the moids, mos of the time they are the ones who wanna do it but every post talking about rape is from a moid
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>>572847698
Is that what you call your penis?
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>>572847113
The knight was making fountains before Dess vanished chapter 5 confirms this
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>>572847447
>>572847368
that's a good thing :)
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Evil Kris feeding his flesh to everyone in the general
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>>572847608
THAT'S MY FUCKING HERO
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>>572847113
>>572847797
Because story-wise I just don't feel like Dess can be both the Lost Girl (presumably the one who is in the code, too) and the Roaring Knight, who is scheming and colluding with all sorts of people to do who knows exactly what, at the same time. Also, the stuff from Chapter 5 about how the Knight was seemingly involved with The Incident (Oh, the horror...) which almost certainly has to relate her disappearance. Admittedly, the Knight being involved in her disappearance is also a big problem for Rudy and Carol Knight too, and I don't really have an answer for that yet
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>>572846885
What's happening here?
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>>572847772
what
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>>572847525
I wouldn't be able to handle female Ralsei
having my imaginary anthro gf disappear at the end of the game would kill me
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>>572847651
>"Got it, Princess?"
>"..."
>cut to the entire world burning
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jonny titan spawn was Jackenstein's best fraind
why did you kill him
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>>572844867
the truth is that no one is immune to the changes of aging and nothing is wrong with that. men go bald, women look a little less perky, everyone gets gray hair and wrinkles and it's a privilege to get old with someone you love. wrote toriel in her diary as she reflects on her life
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>>572843812
Mainly because it's possible to play the entire game without meeting him once.
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OH DAMN
>MISSION PASSED!
>RESPECT+
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>>572847802
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>>572847749
yeah kris actually has weather powers like storm from the x men it just doesn't come up very much
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>>572847892
why is jack pro life
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>>572847905
rudyknight is wrong but this reasoning is dumb. he's in the church, and toby doesnt design games for casuals
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Any art of tomboy R63 Ralsei?.. That uses close combat instead of magic.
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they're never going to go back and update the old chapters to not look like absolute ass compared to the new ones are they
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>>572847968
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>>572847738
But that's what he always does though?
Every time I look at him I end up well fed because he is a feast for the eyes
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>>572847905
explain dessknight using this same logic then
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>>572847960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lsdJDiJ0QE
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>>572847892
I don't know how many people I've seen bitch about how killing the Titan Spawn counting towards your kills is a "bug." Like seriously, if you have the option to spare them, why on earth wouldn't they count?
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>>572848065
sex
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This is a Kris. Take it.
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Hometown is a simulation. An amazing digital circus, if you would.
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>>572848083
oouuuhhhh tv butt!
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>>572847107
someone has to go out with the bluebird
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>>572847559
>>572847180
the noelkris yaoi would've gone so hard
>golden boy getting topped by the weird schizo kid he used to bully
KINOGRAPHY
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>>572847608
Where are his huge cock and bollocks?
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>>572848153
Cause the correlation to Jack doesn’t make any sense
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>>572848197
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CHEEKY CUNT
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>>572848063
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>>572848153
Because...
he's already saved by the time you get the ability to fight titan spawns? The recruits already saved him, so why would killing titan spawns magically lead to him getting hurt like in a violence route?
I was smart enough not to attack the spawn in my pacifist route and just banish them, but like, I get why people are complaining.
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>>572846847
kiddo i told you that on the valentine's day newsletter
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>>572848282
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stopeth fucking thine bimbo goat.
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>>572847767
afabs talk about spamton and tenna rape or getting raped all the time
it was an afab poster that made the Spamton Rape Comic
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you newmew fags know that burgerpants interacts extensively with mew mew in the dog shrine dialogue right? right??
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>>572848187
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>>572847525
why are they so regressive man it really pisses me off
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>>572848282
fuuuuck
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If you get Ralsei's hidden "KrisLove" score up high enough he gives Kris an under the pants handjob in chapter 6
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Kris vs Berdly
Susie vs Catti
Ralsei vs Jockington

Discuss
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SUSIE PLEASE
KRIS IS THE ONE FOR YOU
PLEASE SUSIE
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>>572846974
She should’ve done it already
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>>572848375
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>>572848467
Kris sweep, Susie sweep, Jock sweep
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I'll give Ralsei a happy ending right now.
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>>572848380
The bimbo can not be stopped.
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>>572848207
It's gotta be such a great pillow...
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https://files.catbox.moe/raa34v.mp4
FLOWERY FANS ITS OVER
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>>572848282
i feel this is just a little ooc ralsei is too obedient to kris
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>>572845553
The Thorn Ring is a thorn in the Light World, so if there was a time to give us one in the normal route, it would've been in the place with a million flower characters. I think the last chance for that is Seam giving us a Thorn Ring out of nowhere alongside the Pure Crystal (assuming that's what all the Shadow Crystals get turned into) in Chapter 6 so that you can make the Twisted Sword, but since this is the same Chapter where Noelle is ostensibly going to do shit in Dark Worlds again, we'd be able to equip it to her, which would kind of be an issue.
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>>572848556
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>>572848187
Did you know, the Kris's down at the Shelter are free, you can just take them home.
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>>572848380
why did toby have this guy call him a bimbo of all things? he could've used any insult but he picked one with such strong connotations
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>>572848382
Point me to the latest example talking about spamton or tenna rape
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>>572842578
No because the other one is also your girlfriend
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>>572848707
Kris was actually the President of Venezuela.
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>>572848187
Why did Dess sew 100 plushie Krises and distribute them around Hometown?
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>>572848390
I dont have an xboner and I dont want to be a secondary by watching it on youtube
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>>572848651
I'll just headcanon this as post-ending consummation
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why the FUCK are susie and ralsei COCKBLOCKING ME AND KRIS
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only one foidposter will be crowned matriarch.
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>>572848819
Trying to make everyone like Kris despite him being a little chudling weirdo creep
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>>572848878
Good thing there are only mtfs here
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>>572848864
Because you are destined lover for Kris
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>>572848694
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>>572848775
lurk moar newbuddy
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SEX
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>>572848382
did you forget the degenerate moid yesterday talking about getting off to real police footage of a woman being assaulted
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>>572847839
Feels like he's not really giving Ralsei an option
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>>572849001
why is this so hot to me.
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>>572848984
>Bro it happens, just trust me!
If it happens all the time you'd think one would easily be able to prove it
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if queen can give birth then pink can get pregnant
if kris fucks pink, what kind of strange child is conceived?
part ghost lightner, part doll darkner, part human?
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>>572848952
gotta go now fren, thank you for posting with me :)
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>"Foid" was written down as Queen.
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>>572849051
>whataboutism
No one said moids never rapepost
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>>572849075
Kris is saying "Man up", so I guess they're motivating Ralsei or something
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Susie. Susie, Susie, Susie.
You have NOTHING in common with Noelle.
NOTHING! Yes, she's nice and she has money.
BUT SHE DOESN'T GET YOU LIKE KRIS DOES
YOU DON'T NEED MONEY
YOU NEED LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING
ONLY KRIS CAN GIVE YOU THAT
SUSIE
SUSIE
SUSIE
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>>572848926
>he doesn’t know
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>>572849001
princess raly can only cum if his prostate is stimulated by my penor
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>>572849139
>Kris cums inside, birthing an abomination
The roaring nut...
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>>572847525
Ignoring the
>Girls wear pink, boys wear green
nonsense, Ralsei I love you and frankly you and the fun gang (and Berdly and Aqua) are the only ones I would be especially broken up about if you don't survive the whole normal route, but that outfit IS SO TRASH
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>>572849160
Have a good one
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Lets think about the flowers = people in Asgore's life theory again.
Full disclore I'm ignoring Green and Seth because we dont know enough about Asriel, Dess or Carol.
Aqua is a young Kris.
A prankster, full of energy, but also harming others around them because they dont know what they are doing.
Flowery is Rudy (in college)
Cool, strong, a friend but also manipulative and he will get his hands dirty.
Yellow is Asgore
A cop, obsessed with justice, but also very emotional and blames himself for failures instead of moving.
Blue is Toriel.
Loving and Caring, but also very judgmental and strict.
Important: Blue hid a crime from yellow. I think thats a hint that Toriel is involved in the incident many years ago, but Asgore ignores her involment because he loves her too much.
Orange is young Noelle.
A bit of a crybaby and weak, always gets bullied.
They have a secret FRIEND that is not part of the group.
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>>572842276
"woah! ralsei you have a power-up block from super plumber bros in your room?!"
"h-huh? I didnt add that!"
>susie jumps up
*bling!* "Flowery"
>* You got one flowery coin
"Woah! an infinite flowery coin block? awesome! (small ralsei face: we can't even use those anymore!)"
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>>572848594
i dream of getting to touch his soft perfect beautiful booty. all of him is so perfect and deserving of affection and adoration.
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>I will never have this
>I will never be happy
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>>572848153
>you have the option to spare them
you don't, "purifying" the titan spawn isn't sparing and carries connotations that you still killed them, and then the full titan requires use of the fight command
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>>572849268
birthing the roaring knight*
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>>572849198
I’m talking about severity
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Trying to make an updated version of this bull shih but chapter 3-5 isn't very consistent with this sort of stuff so it looks really messy.
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>>572849182
do you know if there are any chinks into deltarune?
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>>572849253
>cut to Flowery in the same position as the second panel
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>>572849330
and that's a good thing.
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>>572849221
Susie signed the max contract gay marriage forms already, it's over...
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>>572849125
No spoonfeeding tourists
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>>572849123
Because you either self insert as Ralsei or fantasize about being impregnated by him.
You also are now thinking about him banging Seth too, for good measure.
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>>572849220
>>572846885
Kris recreating that one night with Dess word for word
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>>572848878
thats me, and i rule with an iron (but fair) fist and love all of my /utg/ children
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>>572849221
>ONLY KRIS CAN GIVE YOU THAT
We talking about the same Kris from Deltarune Video Game here
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>>572849373
>Ralsei isn't someone very wonderful
rude
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>>572847113
The main problem with Dess Knight theories is that they need a justification for how Dess can be the Knight if she's missing. This is usually done by claiming that she is possessed or corrupted somehow and therefore can't live a normal light world life (which has the problems of being 1) a hand wave with little direct evidence arrived at backwards from it being the only way Dess could be the Knight and 2) making Dess into a skinsuit for another force, and if that force is just faceless corruption, eroding the motivation for claiming her as "the Knight" if Dess, a girl with a personality and motivations of her own, is little more than its mask.

Dess having Kris' soul wouldn't answer this problem at all, unless you claim that Kris is the devil and that absorbing their soul instantly corrupts you, and if Dess both has Kris' soul and is corrupted by a third entity then that's just a redundant version of corrupted Dess theory, which doesn't add anything to answering the key problem.
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>>572847968
He wouldn't say this
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>>572849461
Fuck you mom
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>>572849125
how about you eat your own words and do your own digging? arch b4k is right around the corner and your proof is like 2 or 3 key words.
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>>572849434
There is no spoonfeeding, I have been here for years that's how I know you're just making up shit
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>>572849221
Kris is gonna stab her on the knight's orders in chapter 6 or 7 anon, he can't give her that, either.
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>>572849303
hot
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lewding kids is bad
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>>572849640
Mmm'kay
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>>572849541
If that were true, why are you asking questions only a tourist would ask?
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>>572848467
catti getting a dark world form would be pretty cool
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>>572849689
We will see every hometown NPC in the dark world when the roaring happens in chapter 7
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>>572849437
the concept of impregnation, the idea of her getting hot strings of cum blown into her womb.

that's my shit.
most of my stuff uses "cum_inside" or "impregnation"-tagged stuff.
>seth
she is fucking adorable.
she is mainly for hugging.
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>>572849671
Gaster is to Halloween Hack Andonuts what Kris is to Varik so he can say it
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>>572849521
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>>572849775
but who do you self-insert as?
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>>572841393
Not when I make him burst out of it
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>>572849495
Dess Knight fell apart when it was revealed everyone liked her and her life was awesome
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>>572849495
>) a hand wave with little direct evidence
This is a game where some of the first words you hear are your choices don't matter before you are forced to possess someone else. A game where the main protagonist is controlled by you who is an outside force and is constantly vying for control. The same protagonist who parallels the knight. The Knight who has a strange eye thing in their chest reminiscent of your soul.
Noelle compares guitar strings to puppet strings for a reason.
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What's the correct choice on whom to equip RedRibbon first, Ralsei or Susie? I don't my save to be bricked and be unable to access True End due to silly stuff like that.
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Why was the knight alarmed when it realized there was a wall in its way and flowery would be able to catch up to it if it knew it could just neg-dif his ass
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Why is Kris fine with anything happening in the game?
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>>572847525
I would be more on board with femralsei if they got a cool outfit like this (even if the sprite is a bit jankey looking). I actually like this
though, /sus/ already made their own "fem ralsei" awhile ago and they're ten times better
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>>572849895
He literally is not
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What happens if you get impregnated by ralsei and then go back to the light world
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>>572849895
They must trust da plan...
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>>572842420
>>572842632
Amalgamknight theory comes from the theory that Ch5 Weird Route ending implies that Kris/Noelle broke the game. Why it broke the game is because its a huge reference to Mother glitch. If they broke the game, then its possible for them to fuck with continuity. The writing is already toying with repeating or parallel telling of the same story taking place. Amalgamknight finally gives different motivation for the Knight. Other theories recycle the idea that the end result of Roaring will give answers on what happened to Dess. With Noelle in charge, it would be to further break the game.

Knight's motivations are odd. They're very personal and childish. Fountain in school, librarbies PC lab, Kris' house, church, Asgore's shop. And the kidnappings. Toriel and Asgore. Toriel is the target, but then Undyne is taken. I think whats happening is the Knight trying to keep adults from finding out.

The phone calls in Ch4, does anyone else now think they sound like Noelle? Noelle likes saying Kris' name, and switching between giving commands and showing care.

Consider that the characters find out that they're inside a game. Dess and Asriel might not even exist.
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we need more evil scary mystery guys
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>>572849843
I put it on Susie because I had to
Apparently if you don't, Flowery gives her a spiky one later
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>>572849867
It was alarmed because it didn't want to hit a wall because hitting a wall fucking hurts.
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The song Onionsan heard in the sea is the unused song friendship: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rby6_V57F9E&list=RDrby6_V57F9E&start_radio=1&pp=ygUURnJpZW5kc2hpcCB1bmRlcnRhbGWgBwE%3D&ra=m
It is not a new song (nightmare knight), but not an old one either. It is incomplete in its entirety, yet can be heard complete somewhere else (Nightmare Knight). Considering that chapter 5 explored Dess’s relation with Asriel, there is a chance that the two may have played this song together in the past at the lake and that’s why Onion knows about the song.
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>>572849934
iud made of whatever ralsei is
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>>572849971
I equipped RedRibbon on her after Ralsei, but she was silent. And spiky ribbon cutscene happened anyway.
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>>572849828
anon, i am a man.
i would need to self-insert as ralsei inserting himself into this miscellanenous foid.
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>>572842640
Next to Jevil maybe
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>>572849841
Correcting this, it is "Nobody can choose who they are in this world", "your choices don't matter" are Susie's words. Same point
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i want to buy a ralsei plushie but i'm holding off until the game is done i refuse to spend money on a tr*nny
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>>572849993
Not unused. That was a mistake. Shoot
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>>572849921
For me it's the opposite, sissifying an already girly character just doesn't sit right with me
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>>572850151
Based consoomer anon
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mysterious wind
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She's angry!
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>>572849867
Did you not read Asgore's notes? Every time it exerts itself too much, it leaves BlackShards behind. And I don't think it can regenerate, so that's permanent maxHP reduction.
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>>572850173
for me it's the opposite, i only really like feminization when the boy is super feminine to start with. just something how about reminding him he's barely 5'4" with a FAT ass
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Jarona!
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>>572850151
>i am not buying merch of my favorite character that i spent over 10 years obsessing over because he could be transgender.
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>>572849867
Because it knew it was already at critically low levels of aura and it there would be no chance of recovering if it crashed into a wall and got mogged by a flower
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>>572849316
I dream of the same thing...
I want to worship him and make him feel so loved and cherished, kissing every part of him so he knows how much he means to me while I knead his cute butt softly
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>>572850209
flowers blooms in your heart
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>>572850279
Child molester
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If you prefer hat ralsei over normal ralsei you’re a fascist
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What if girl Ralsei becomes a violent and sarcastic tomboy?
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>>572850338
The proper term is "petalphile"
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I think Susie is the first time I've been a fan of a female character without being sexually attracted to her. I've tried beating off to Susie porn but I just can't. She's not sexy at all, but she's really cool and a good character. Is there perhaps something wrong with me?
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>>572850296
you're right. i also wouldn't purchase a home i've been eying for years if it was suddenly full of snakes
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>>572850341
*fashionista
Sorry, typo. My bad.
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Deltarune Fact: Ralsei will say "Jarona" at least once
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>>572850341
>Asgore made his flowers nazis
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>>572850386
Wow a repackaged ch1 Susie
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>>572838539
>>572838735
what will the Bunny, Frog and Snake (tail of cat) element games' weapons be
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>>572847180
A-Any games with characters like this? Asking for a friend...
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>>572850317
the longer i look the worse it fucking gets YUCK
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>5 chapters for toby to add a character for straight men
whats his problem
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>>572850395
That made me chuckle, good one
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>>572850386
Honestly, if Toby managed to make it not feel jarring, I'd be all for it. But I don't know how he'd make it feel natural.
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>>572850307
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>>572850341
i like him both ways but I wouldn't mind if he'd put the hat on from time to time
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>>572850341
he looks cool and cute as a little orko black mage thing
without the hat he looks like a shotafag fursona
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>>572850341
How come I see a post with like 5 likes on twitter and then 10 minutes later see the same thing posted here? Am I losing my mind? Surely no one is just reposting stuff from deltarune twitter to this thread.
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>>572850404
stop trying to beat off to your daughter that's wrong
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The game cannot be about anything else than Kris and Susie having fun adventures together. Anything else at this point would be a B plot.
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>>572850482
Mad Mew Mew/Pink has an insane lesbian fanbase lmao
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>>572850395
Actually, proper term is "antholagnia"
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>>572850498
There's no way for it to be not jarring and OOC... Tralsei is projection and fanfic. There's no textual basis for it
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>>572850404
Nah, you can really enjoy someone without wanting to fuck them
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buttjobs from obese Flowery
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>>572850359
Flower man was touching minors and everyone still forgave him at the end, lol
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>>572850573
I keep having flashbcks to "just a classic Rick and Morty adventure"
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>>572850554
deltarune hivemind
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>>572850652
HEE HEE
Jarona
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>>572850554
We've had fags get called out for copy-pasting xitter posts before lol
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thanks for adding the flower it made me smile
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>>572850554
I'm convinced 4 of us have the same timeline and are taking turns posting it here
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>>572850238
The Knight probably just left the shards on purpose for Asgore. It took three heroes taking out a third of its health and Susie sucker punching it while it was feigning defeat just to break one piece off. The Knight wasn't exerted after creating 5 fountains, let alone 1.
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>>572850554
sorry. i'm a bad person, i can't make genuine retarded post without stealing them
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Lays your tv flat
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>>572850572
does this mean that weird route is a brick
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Jevil
Spamton
Roaring Knight
Gerson
Pink

Our fucking schizos...
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>>572850341
>You HAVE to prefer the white character over the black one
anon...
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>>572850532
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>>572849373(me)
my coworker be losing his fucking mind bro

>>572849493
gaster doesn't acknowledge d*rkners because he's racist
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>he ran
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interesting
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>>572850404
Do you guys know the artist who drew this
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Still the most interesting video about the Roaring Knight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgMha7mBgpA
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>>572850934
having two call pick up buttons really fits flowerys whole silly meta awareness theme
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>>572850408
you have odd problems with transexuality for somoene who likes a character that is primarily liked by homosexuals.
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>>572850969
Still got my chips riding on Ralsei choosing his form to appeal to Kris, Susie and (You) simultaneously
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>>572850885
>minutes later Susie is jerking him off while Kris fingers him
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i'm finding some really awful shit in the archives. what was going on in 2022
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>>572850296
>Call a character a boy for 10 years over and over and over
>Suddenly it's a girl
It's literally false advertisement
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>>572850885
Ralsei being cared for by Kris and Susie at the same time is the best thing ever
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>>572851081
pamper the goat
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>>572850404
She's literally Kuwabara, who wouldn't like her?
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>>572851093
There was something in the water.
It's still in the water.
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There's a real possibility that Toby thought up Flowery before Flowey which means Flowey was evil AU the copy all along
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>>572851093
Consequences of the longest wait
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>>572851025
now what do my gaybros have to do with invasive trannies?
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>>572840575
THAT LITTLE FAGGOT'S GOT HIS OWN JET AIRPLANE
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>>572851093
it was a different time
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>>572851093
>what was going on in 2022
The 'rona virus, it made everyone insane
Share more gems lol
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>>572851093
The Development is Going Well Death March was hard on all of us
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Pink bouncing on Kris's cock for 24 hours straight!
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>>572851093
Post-Chapter 2 was the darkest era for the Deltarune fandom. It was the longest interregnum between chapters ever and Chapter 2 was so formulaic that it gave the fandom brainrot and partially killed the hype of the Chapter 1 era in which people thought the game was going to be paced much faster.
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>>572851280
No. Toby said he thought about Chapter 5 a decade ago, so 2016
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>>572850321
i'd love to wake up next to him and to roll over and spoon him while my hands wander all over him. kissing him softly as he wakes up and telling him how much i love him
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>>572851187
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>>572851382
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Ralsei is not a girl or a boy, he's a darkner and darkner genders are inconsequential because darkner lives don't matter
isn't that right Ralsei?
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Thomas Fox here
The special gameplay of chapter 6 is "oldschool Runescape"
Sorry that it will take so long to make
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Every chapter from this point on is going to be treated very seriously so obviously that means Toby is never ever ever going to insert his cringey seething about people who think Ralsei looks better with his hat on into the script ever again right
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Dessknight is boring because its not really Dess, its Friendmikegasterfaggot possessing Dess for generic evil reasons. Rudy or Carol Knight are conscious beings acting with purpose.
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Did anyone notice that Pink's big bombs had indicators when her small bombs didn't? Deltarune already has a ton of problems with not following its own guidelines and to see it in one battle is embarrassing and they should remove the indicators from the big bombs immediately so that it actually matches up.
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>>572851021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlEIC7qh2Pw
>Rules are just a suggestion.
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>>572851046
>"You should just be yourself, Ralsei"
>Ralsei transforms into Jerry from undertale
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kris has a nonbinary pussy
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>>572851473
Platonic goat sandwich
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What makes Ralsei, a feminine anthropomorphic goat man, so attractive to the average human male?
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>>572851526
If you didn't think Ralsei being a miserable shit with his hat on was funny as fuck you have bad taste, sorry
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>>572851496
yea...
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>>572851448
In retrospect it's ridiculous that it took almost 4 years to release new Chapters but the wait between Chapter 1 and 2 was also egregiously long
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>>572851016
When does he get to the point
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>>572851496
he's a fluffy boy who loves cooking, ribbons, singing, being kind, rough anal sex, pacifism, his friends and magic tbdesu
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>>572851651
I just kinda want to protect him and make sure he is happy
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Why is gaster a pirate?
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>>572848095
Dess is unavoidable. There are at least three times you'll hear about her in non-optional content.
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>>572851651
He's cute and nice and fluffy all over and you can flirt with him which sends gay spores into the brain of the player
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>>572851496
some tree have genders tho'
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>>572851526
>his cringey seething
I feel like you guys struggle with suspension of disbelief because you're too invested in the fanshit. I just thought "heh, Ralsei doesn't like his hat anymore."
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>>572851651
For me?
It's his eyes.
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>>572851672
It would be funny if he didn't already spend the last 3 chapters literally making the same joke about his hat over and over
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>>572851296
you both march for the flag of touching children.
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>>572851651
I want to possess Kris and force him to pin Ralsei to a wall and grind his (my) knuckles against Ralsei's fluffy tummy while both of them tremble, Kris in resistance of me and Ralsei in confused arousal.
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>>572851093
>>572851494
peak /utg/
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>>572851429
other way around
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In hindsight, no one's characterization has suffered more from Toby's insistence on keeping THE INCIDENT a big fat secret than Asgore. Can't flesh out the character who clings to THE INCIDENT more than anyone else and who has made it his duty to keep investigating it because then we might learn more about THE INCIDENT before the officially approved time.
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>>572851672
>>572851806
you gotta remember some of these people are autistic as fuck
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>>572851675
you just know he drew this fuckass face for some genuinely terrible event and then decided to use it during the non-serious chapter for shits and giggles
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>>572851651
>cute
>pretty
>loyal(debatable)
>serving
>kind
>fluffy
>smart
and so on
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>>572851526
what's his hang-up with that
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>>572851753
Gaster has always been a pirate
Chapter 5's focus on water+evil parrot+papyrus pirate flag in undertale. Its just silly shitposting
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fave is eating sprinkles right out of the shaker mmyumujumymyumymymhm
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>>572851465
Goodness, that's the dream right there
I wanna give him a warm good morning so sweet that it may or may not accidentally make us fall asleep again
I want him to feel completely safe and at ease with me, he needs to know that I think every second I spend with him is a privilege for me
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>>572851563
Playtesters literally couldn't beat the boss
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>>572852093
Oh my lawd im on board.
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>>572851753
He just wants to play games without playing.
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i love my boy ralsei
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>>572851093
giddyup
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>>572851989
Yeah Asgore's arc is probably the single worst thing about Chapter 5. I'm clinging on to some faint hope he's going to be relevant again later in the gamebut I know it's fucking over
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>>572841761
>all the angry/bitchy replies
you guys take this way too seriously this shit is hilarious
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>>572852198
I love him too.
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i've been a papyrus knighter since the beginning and my faith remains unwavered
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>>572850885
what in the actual fuck is happening here?
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>>572850942
fixed this for you
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do you think susie would suddenly find herself attracted to Kris if she learned kris had a thussy
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>>572852289
ZAMN, red herrings look like THAT?!
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>>572852070
Toby sincerely thinks hatless Ralsei is the better one
despite this, he still refuses update Ralsei's dialogue portraits to not look like fucking trash
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>>572851753
>aqua might be a pirate because association with water
>what if gaster was a pirate
>he has kind of a parrot with that one bird
and then these two posts hit and gaster permanently became a pirate
https://fxtwitter.com/drit__/status/2071071664113103151.mp4
https://fxtwitter.com/DrakeTheroux/status/2072113388549771279.mp4
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>>572852210
Back when we used to have thread screencaps
That time is no more, we don't get screencap worthy moments anymore
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>>572851857
Stop replaying Deltarune. The game is meant to be experienced with years between chapters.
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Toriel is the one who deserved to get kidnapped.
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>>572839959
>Told myself I would finish a fic today
>All the scenes planned and written
>Only halfway through
t-tomorrow for sure...
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get fucking next thread sorted
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>>572851989
It's going to become retroactive better when we actually discover what happened, it just hurts the experience of playing Chapter 5 because Asgore's cutscenes feel like a waste of time since he has nothing to reveal.
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Peoples' Knight speculation keeps hitting a brick wall because they assume that the whodunnit is limited to merely the question of who the Knight is.
There is a whodunit, but the identity and nature of the Knight is just a part of it. The whodunit is how the conspiracy involving the Knight did it.
Don't take Queen's claims like that the Knight is a lightner as gospel when Kris creating the Garden world and Asgore assuming it was the Knight is a textbook case of a conspiracy manipulating witnesses into believing their crimes were done by a lone perpetrator.
Don't ask questions like "The Knight created the Sanctuary, so who knew Gerson as a "loved one" and could have created it". Ask questions like "Who could have known Gerson and helped the Knight by creating the Sanctuary for them? Carol? What's the minimum number of perps who could have done all of this while making the witnesses believe the things they believe?"
Don't treat Chapter 5 like it adds no evidence. If the Knight conspiracy is, for example, attempting to establish the Knight as the person to blame for the incident of Dess' disappearance to bail out Noelle or whoever, then you just found an endgame motivation for the Knight.
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>>572840439
Kris isnt able to kill off Rudy in weird route, so she has him for a little longer at least
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what if instead of carol she was called carhole and she was just a big hole in the ground
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>>572852495
No. three threads at once is not allowed on /vg/. wait until previous one archives
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>>572851806
Thanks for letting me know how a retard experiences Deltarune.
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>>572851989
What baffles me is why the game makes me want to think Asgore is in the wrong. The incident IS important. Something fucked up happened to his best friend's daughter, and even his own child is heavily involved (though he doesn't know about that). Why is he being punished for doing his duty as a cop and a friend? Why must he forget what happened and be a good husband who doesn't give Bitchriel the ick, or at least play with his stupid flowers?
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>>572849407
shut up, kraut.
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>>572851806
He was definitely pissed that people liked the hat more
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>>572852454
works everytime
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Mike is actually... a pirate!
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>>572852712
Work-life balance.
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kris killed dess because she didn't fucking do band practice
this is the subtle twist that makes it different from omori
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>>572852637
we got a threadcop ova' here
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>>572852497
I'm not complaining we didn't learn anything new, I'm complaining that Toby's commitment to not revealing anything new got in the way of Asgore being fleshed out as a character which resulted in his chapter 5 arc feeling like it comes out of nowhere and has a rushed resolution.
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>>572852712
His own children were traumatized and his absence as a father is one of the reasons why Kris is such a mess of a person now
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The egg man is not Gaster
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>>572852493
it better be sexual
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>>572852712
Asgore neglected his family and his life to pursue the truth and justice, he's not wrong for trying but he became obsessed. It happens to real detectives, he was too close to the case and it ruined him
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>>572851989
We really should have learned about THE INCIDENT™ this chapter, at least how it went from Asgore perspective.
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so this guy WILL have to be one of the players for the next VGL cup right
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>>572852556
I'd rather not make a whole conspiracy with multiple characters collectively sharing secrets and motivations around helping the Knight because I think the plot can go south very quickly through this
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haha remember spamton
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>>572852497
Having a magical 7 chapters was the worst idea Toby ever had for this game. I replayed the game after 5 and I just couldn't play 2-3 without skipping a lot of dialogue. Chapter 1 made me believe Deltarune would be a very parsimonious game with no filler chapters.
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>>572840724
wtf, I never saw the cute Mantis chick how did I miss her
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>>572853105
Haha, remember my Jarona?
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>>572852760
I can't verify for myself because I know my stupid ass would probably miss a moment and have to start all over, but does anybody know how often the hat is brought up in Chapter 5 alone compared to all prior chapters? It's important because if it turns out 5 makes mention of the hat more than every single other chapter combined my sides would enter low-earth orbit
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>>572852831
>Chapter 6 Mike Room
>A new Mike has shown up, dressed as a pirate
>The other Mikes find him incredibly annoying
>But Tenna kinda likes him and asks him to recalibrate his aerial.
>As the new Mike and Tenna walk off screen, the others get sand and angry
>But suddenly, they both return and Tenna looks pissed, he says he knows something is wrong with the new Mike
>*Mike's ass... would NEVER be this small!!
>Pulls off the costume
>It's Rouxls.
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>>572853105
I kinda hope he somehow gets to Castle Town in Ch6.
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>>572853140
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I wanna kiss Chara. Everywhere.
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kris hating anime, it's because tradnime it's about friendship and good moral values
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>>572852712
He was obsessed and neglected his family, but the game never shows to what extent so its up to you to project your own daddy issues and hated of Asgore. Obviously theres a reasonable amount of obsession and paranoia Asgore should have and its justified since the Knight ended up kidnapping him.
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>>572852712
Because he has a family he cares about and doing it like that failed them you silly noodle please pay attention
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make the new bread NOW
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>>572853169
It does get mentioned more than other chapters but not by much and that's only because of the fact that it did come back, for a moment
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>>572840912
I don’t know about shinobeetle, but there are mantises called orchid mantises that resemble flowers, so I assume the mantises are orchids
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>>572853001
People will say shit like "it's about the characters not the mystery" to defend the chapter, but we're not even going to understand Asgore's motivation in Chapter 5 until 6 or 7 is released.
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this thread doesnt have enough cute girls
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>>572853169
Off the top of my head Orange mentions it 3 times back to back in her intro, Ralsei is upset Flowery tried putting it on him at the start of the dark world, and Ralsei gets upset at Orange for it in their hangout, and at no point are you given the ability to weigh in with your opinion as the player either, which in game design is a dead giveaway that the dev already knows your answer and doesnt like it
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How would it affect Deltarune if Toby went mentally insane and put an unskippable highly detailed 10 minute cutscene of Kris and Noelle fucking in the weird route
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>>572853386
It's about Mew Mew and Aqua porn not whatever story Toby thought of 10 years ago
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>>572853386
we already know what his motivation is though you just want a flashback cutscene where they show where everyone was standing when it actually happened
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>>572852497
Asgore is poorly written in general. Half his scenes are him just saying out loud that he feels angry.
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has the fandom latched on to a new sexyman yet
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Kralsei isn't good unless Kris is AFAB. Femboy yaoi is BORING.
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>>572853541
Flowery, but he's getting memelord treatment rather than sexyman treatment, not sure if that counts
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>>572853482
<- plant
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>>572853541
its a sexy wo-man this time
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>>572853482
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>>572853459
Triple lifetime sales day of
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>>572853368
Ah
So they're just Lurantis.
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>Ralsei's hat is proof Toby wants to hurt me
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>>572853459
that already happened
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>>572851950
No.
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>>572853541
Sexywoman** (has a penis)
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why is everyone in this thread such a fucking chibbi
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>>572853691
yeah
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>>572851526
You sound like a thin-skinned little bitch tbdesu
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>>572834361
Who has the sauce
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MAKE THE BREAD HOLY JESUS
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>>572853853
I'll wait till this one gets to page 9
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hatless ral mogs
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>>572851000
https://x.com/iarlaseacht
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ONLY uuuuuuu
CAN MAKE THIS CHANGE IN ME
FOR ITS TRUuuuuuuu…
YOU ARE MY DESTINY.
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>>572853797
A non-trivial amount of people here are being filtered by Toby laughing in their general direction because they can't tell it's with them instead of at them. See: anyone retarded enough to get mad at Freedom Motif in Trashy Trio
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>You ask Ralsei to frot with you
>Ralsei just wants to make you happy and comfortable
>Blushing and embarrassed, he agrees and slowly pulls out his 18 inch horsecock
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>>572853970
why would chara make them do this
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So does anyone on this board like boys and girls kissing instead of the usual boys/boys or girls/girls cause I think I might be a little fucked in the head and I'm actually into boys/girls kissing, is that weird?
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>>572853990
>Freedom Motif in Trashy Trio
This is the weirdest reason to get mad for sure, genuine autism
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>>572853797
oh i get it, the joke is that you're judging other people based on their skin while yourself being a shitskin, very clever
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>>572853721
I need her inside of me
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>>572854101
Principal of thread, take this anon to detention and get him raped by the goat monster
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Two sentence horror
>I am a flaming gay man and I want to have sex with you Kris Deltarune
>Kris nodded, and slowly removed her spats
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>>572854101
I saw a bunch of porn like that on Noelle's computer. I think she's in the closet about it
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>>572854142
AND a seamonkey
very nice
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how is it that you people are playing a game filled with stupid meta jokes and still misunderstanding that not everything is serious. nobody is mad about the hat except for the sexy goat.
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>>572854101
sister that sounds illegal
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>>572854101
f-fahaha, me too! gay stuff is a little weird...
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>>572853891
There's absolutely going to be a twist at some point where somebody we don't expect to know about the soul is going to be revealed as having already been told about it

I think it's going to be Susie
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>>572854317
4 = 4
chan = website for lifeless autistic losers
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So why was kris aurafarming at the end of chapter 1 again?
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>>572853990
Im upset about the "battat motif" joke not because its my expense, but because its quite literally turning around and spitting in the face of the very thing that got people to see him as a unique storyteller in the first place. I dont care about what it may or may not say about theorists, but directly making a joke of using motifs to establish a connection lessens the impact of it when he tries doing it for real.
He literally went against this type of writing the previous chapter, doubt and irony and all that, but here he is barely a year after
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>>572854101
>play the gay game for fujos, fags and assorted flavors of tranny
>hey guys how come there isnt more not-gay things for me
now thats what i call being illiterate
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>>572854051
he has a small and cute penis
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>>572854207
Feeling her tits on your back as she fucks you
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>>572854051
Ralsei's weird obsession with being a horse means he'd ABSOLTUELY have a horsecock if he truly is a shapeshifter.
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>>572854373
Giving Noel a genuinely platonic hug and feeling him shiver momentarily
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Hi, I drew something I been seeing a lot on twitter, can someone explain to me why the fuck this keeps happening?
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>>572854423
nyo...
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>>572854426
So yes, because you are retarded and want to take an obvious joke seriously for faux outrage.
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>>572853520
What did Asgore do when "trying to protect everyone" that led him to believe he was the party to blame? Unless you can tell me this aspect his his motivation using the chapter and using zero headcanon, no, you don't know what his motivation is.
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>>572852448
Man the shanty is all kinds of fucked up writing-wise but it sounds so good I don't care
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>>572854425
I hate all of you
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>>572854516
Flowery misgenders Ralsei so its ok
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>>572853975
https://x.com/iarlaseacht/status/2071154114667384900
lol why would they draw this
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>>572854426
>an easter egg shitpost joke you have to go out of your way to see has the developer poking fun at himself for his own amusement
>this offends you somehow
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>>572854516
goomba'd
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WE ARE OUT OF BREAD
GIVE BREED TO ME NOW! NOW NOW NOW NOW
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>>572854537
.pdf vibes from this post
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>>572853301
Is a complicated relationship with one's father required to fully enjoy Deltarune?
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FLOWER MAN
FLOWER MAN
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>>572854637
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>>572853791
Mmmmm... No.
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>>572851526
I've come to prefer hatless Ralsei over time due to how much more development that version of him got, but I have to admit it's weird that he went "the "ralsei needs his hat thing again??" like that's been a consistent complaint about him in-universe when nobody aside from Flowery and that hat stand guy ever really brought up his hat form again.
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>>572854426
I can see where the annoyance with that comes from, but I honestly feel like most of the Castle Town scenes with the TV World guys are Toby's way of letting fans know they're way off the mark with certain things. Like the whole "Mike" thing, I think that was Toby's way of saying that motif doesn't specifically relate to freedom
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>>572854684
No, actual same twitter user
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>>572854580
That's not what what those words mean. Motivation.
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>>572854425
We genuinely won't know this until Chapter 7.
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>>572854671
have you never heard of angst in your life
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>>572854689
no confession lady, I will *not* come again
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>>572854713
DOES WHATEVER FLOWER MAN CAN
CLIMBS A WALL, THEN HE FALLS
THIS GAME SUCKS HIS FLOWER BALLS
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the /v/ tourists are seething again...
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JARONA
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Kris just picks up Noelle while she sleeps and carries her other places sometimes
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>>572854932
>>572854932
>>572854932
PROCEED.
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>>572854537
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>>572854426
If it only stays with those characters it’s probably fine but yeah idk why other than going crazy for spending a near decade on this fever dream Tony would pull out the rug and say “Yeah all that stuff I’ve done for years now was all so cringy right guys *wink wink nudge nudge*.
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>>572854495
hot
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>>572854425
Kris was cocky at the end of Chapter 1.
That was before they knew the soul was going to make them Berdly's bitch.
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>>572854516
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>>572854758
If he wanted to do so, he shouldve gone about it in a less direct way, because this still goes against what he had Gerson say in the previous chapter. The joke only exists because he doubts his audience, rightly so or not he directly said that kind of thinking ruins a story in the previous chapter
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>>572855042
Your fear is unfounded and not at all likely so don't worry
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>>572854516
Double standards
one is "offensive" the other is heckin woke and valid
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>>572854101
You fucking homophobe, I'm deleting Deltarune from your Steam account. - Toby
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>>572845442
>Can go anywhere
>Is aware of the game mechanics and can likely manipulate them just like Flowery
>Knowledge of the prophecy and world, with notable blindspots in regards to the knight
>Knows when you do the Weird Route, or at least is able to tell that something's off
>knows about the soul
>Knows Kris made the chap 5 fountain, but not about the extent of his traitorism
Ralsei knows Too Much to NOT be the biggest potential obstacle to whatever Kris is wrapped up in, he has to b X-slashed now before he can potentially take Susie's side when Kris is revealed as working with the knight.
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>>572855353
The entirety of Toby’s work both Ut and Dr have had countless uses of leitmotif to artistically connect his story. This isn’t a subjective point there’s more examples than can fit in this text box. So to say having a joke scene where such a thing is the target of irony right after the chapter that specifically expresses how irony is poison to stories it comes off as concerning. I don’t think it’s SO OVER for the game but to say this is “unfounded” is disingenuous.
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>>572854643
Ralsei misgenders Green
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>>572852976
What the fuck he was investigating, anyway? Once he dug-up that shard, there's nothing left to investigate. He can only lie in wait for signs, and he can do that without compromising his family.
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>>572840912
>>572853368
Bugs can't survive in the dark world, tho, just like flowers
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>>572848153
>The goat who tells you to not fight enemies and to spare them tells you, 'hey these guys are fucking evil incarnate, incapable of feeling anything other than the desire to destroy'. You get an item that lets you two shot them in the previous chapter after fighting a secret boss.
>Also you get the 'you spared everyone in the chapter hooray' scene already.



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