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Previous: >>571750447

>What is Duet Night Abyss?
Duet Night Abyss is a free-to-play action role-playing game where all the characters and weapons can be obtained for completely free by grinding or farming them in-game.

>FAQ (Read this for an introduction to the game)
https://rentry.org/dnaguide
Character recommendations can be slightly outdated. Please follow the Immersive Theater cycle or ask in thread for more up-to-date character recommendations.

>Useful Links
https://rentry.org/edyo3dhz

>1.4 Update
https://youtu.be/H6LvkLhka5Q
https://youtu.be/73kvX9iEmqY

>Schedule for 1.4 Events, Theater/Letter Rotation, and Geniemon Reset
https://rentry.co/dnaschedule
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lunotoot ryona
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>*Blocks your path*
Herro, I hear you got some gold books in your possesions? Spend them, now!
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>>572872185
Do not forget your

Daily
>Memo
>Bard's Tome (BP)
>Expeditions
>Toy Hammer/Dice around Lunoeggy shop (currently 3 in total)
>Reputation Donations (if needed to rush it)
>Guild dailies
Daily Extra
>pet the cat in Sanctuary

Weekly
>5 Nocturnal Echoes
>3 Chase/Showdown
>1 Mystic Maze
>3 Reputation Gauntlets for each region (currently 6 in total)
>Incense Proving buy the invitations
>Guild weeklies

Other
>Events
>Theater clear rewards and shop before reset
>check for Geniemons every 3 specific days
>Fish shop
>Prism shop buy the 5 Prismatic Hourglasses every reset (around once a month)
>Mystic Maze shop buyout before reset
>Guild Shop
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>>572872432
decabear ryona
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>>572872254
luno punches are probably pretty soft and pleasant.
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i dont wanna do theater 30 more times...
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>>572874421
tough shit get back to acting
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i dont wanna do maze 30 more times...
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Managed to clear up to Act 47 using Hilda with this setup.
I2 Hilda, S1 sig
I6 Camilla, S3 sig
I5 Fushu, I0 Stellar Finality
Hilda and Camilla have no treads invested (lv8 skills, no 2nd stat node)

By no means an optimized setup. I think being able to reach act 47 was not bad considering it's an incomplete build, no calamity, and no elemental wingspos.
Can't see shit during the boss due to Stellar Finality but it keeps them almost perma staggered. Though I had to actually dodge during act 46/47. Eclosia nearly one-shots me with the purple beam. Almost died to Hellfire last phase fire puddles.
People reported being able to clear Act 50 w/ Hilda. Supposedly Fushu + Truffle/Fina is still better than Camilla. I haven't tested that myself but Camilla seems to be putting out a lot of dmg according to my damage statistics.

>>572853550
I couldn't get the weapon to do more than 5% of Hilda's skill dmg. So unfortunately I think her weapon is mainly for utility. A celerity will be good to bring ASPD close to cap.
If using Camilla the extra explosions will trigger more crimson wounds. If not using her, then it's mainly for extra stagger on boss.
Also her sig seems bugged with a missing 3rd explosion. If that gets fixed it should be a decent boost to weapon and crimson wound dmg.
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what am i supposed to do with the 8 trillion covenants i don't need
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>>572880596
Just noticed the bottom got cut off.
Wedges are Foldover*Dexterity, Arrow*Abundance, and Celerity if anyone wanted to know.
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>>572880596
doesn't rain of quivers cripple your damage?
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>>572880596
many words...
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>>572881946
Only for the ranged weapon. It didn't do much even with more damage wedges in my experience. So I traded it for more multishot -> higher skill dmg + more crimson wound pops.
According to the Discord TC channel, her Multitasking skill desc is incorrect and the E boost scaling is actually 20% + 15% of multishot. So I would also be under the cap by ~75% multishot w/o rain of quivers.
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weapon damage should be quadrupled
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>>572884337
This post was brought to you by the Kezhou gang
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>>572884337
No, fuck that; they should add a goddamn hold melee toggle so I don't have to spam left-click 10 trillion times per minute.
Make double tap > charged and hold > auto normal.
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we need PEN, morale/resolve wedges for guns that only benefit weapons
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we need more drawfag OC
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we need air combos and parries
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we need stealth and puzzles
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we need mors content
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>>572885053
>autoattack hold
fucking this so bad
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>>572886256
Forgotten
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Back to dead
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>>572890364
sorry i'm drawing
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i feel like hilda's E should aim with the cursor or something rather than being perpendicular to her
or is it and i'm stupid?
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>>572890364
sorry I'm sleeping
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Luno sex
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>>572886239
Kinda have a bit of this already but it's tucked away in the Avian Spirit trials.
>>572886256
This one should actually happen next patch. Hopefully they don't skip MC skins again and we get swimwear for Mors.
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warframes that would save DNA if we stole them
>nova
>lavos
>volt
>caliban
>nidus
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https://files.catbox.moe/i3nt34.jpg

more practice tonight
more lunos
we're gettin' there...
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>>572903687
futavita's been busy...
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Rape Rhythm
Rape Fina
Rape Fushu
Rape Suyi
Rape Flora
Feed Truffle yumyum cream
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what's the optimal flora build for wedges?
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Is Hilda good
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Wait...so hilda is just xaku?
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>>572906479
Lmao
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Who is your favorite Luno?
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>>572921743
lunosex XD
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When is she playable?
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>>572921743
lunojoy
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>>572921743
luocarp
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>>572924996
Wife
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>>572921743
Still lunoeggy
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>>572925993
>>572924996
this bitch is unhinged why do you like her?
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>>572921743
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>>572924996
After the correction!
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>>572926740
Always stick your dick in crazy, they give the best sex.
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How are people getting 20%+ in this ensemble per hit?
My characters aren't the most well built, but have been good enough to get SSS in the summit events. Yet I can't hardly get 3% in one go
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>>572917476
It depends. If you are like me with a maxed calamity rifle and i4/i5 Flora, then pic related. Crescent Flurry might work below i4 but the maxed calamity rifle is a necessity. If not, then replace Crescent Flurry with Dazzling Radiance and Fortune Threshold with Rage or Penetration.
I'm also not sure about i6. The idea behind the Crescent Flurry build is that the maxed calamity rifle has these points it can stack up to 360 which substitute for combo points, so you can do free Helm Splitters in between Finales but you generally wanna delay the Finale a bit to hit 100+ combo for it so that you can stack the calamity points, however at i6, Finale gets its max damage boost as soon as you can use it, so delaying it might not be worth it anymore.
I'm hopefully hitting i6 next week so I will finally be able to test it.
Also, if you're doing ensemble, you only want +3 Decay, not +5, because +5 kills you too early but at +3 Truffle can keep up with the HP drain and it enables the Resolve Truffle gives with her wedges faster.
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>>572929882
SSS has never been a huge achievement. This ensemble is infinitely more demanding than just hitting SSS in summit.
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>>572930516
how hard is it to get a maxed calamity rifle? I only crafted it but haven't got into upgrading it at all yet
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>>572930516
why katana
because you don't have her signature weapon smelt maxed yet?
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>>572930864
Not that hard if you're doing it in a group. Also, someone here or in the guild, I can't remember, said they solo maxed it with 8 compasses.

>>572930897
It's just better than her signature. Both as a statstick and as a functional weapon.
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>>572930758
That wasn't meant to come off as a flex. All I mean was SSS while not hard to get still required around +8 or so wedges so its like 95% of the way to a full build stats wise. But my damage is getting mogged by 7x in ensemble so the math just doesn't add up and I'm not sure where the extra 15%+ is coming from because its obviously not just those last couple wedge levels
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>>572931042
You need maxed calamity rifle and Flora with however many introns you have, or i6 Kekzhou. From what I heard, i6 Kekzhou is better than sub i6 Flora but you need the calamity rifle nontheless. Also, those 2 levels on the wedges do add up.
Oh yeah and make sure that you give Truffle Blaze Volitions. Ensemble is survival, her healing actually plays a crucial part. And don't give her Nirvana. Nirvana is a trap because the HP drain is based on max HP so it gets Truffle killed much sooner than you. Also give her the -HP/+skill efficiency blue wedge.
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>>572931346
I was using Zhiliu since she's my strongest and I don't have Flora built yet and I don't know anything about calamity weapons so is it cooked?
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>>572931462
Oh yeah no, with Zhiliu and Su Yi, the absolute best you can do is 3% and that is if they are completely minmaxed.
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>>572906479
good morning, hope you liked it
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>>572931557
Alright that's fine then thanks. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't colossally fucking up something like a hidden gimmick. If its just a character issue I'll get around to it eventually
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>>572931675
Yeah, Flora is a big powercreep in terms of single-target DPS. The only one who can kind of keep up is Kekzhou but only against Floras who aren't i6.
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Please delete ensemble already. Move on.
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>>572930994
can su yi solo farm it? I don't have friends or a guild
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>>572933041
Are you not on the american server? But yeah, Su Yi is the best for the umbro abyss, with Fushu and Fina supports.
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>>572933165
I am I'm just too autistic an antisocial to be in guilds
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they are refunding all gold books used for ensemble
we won
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>>572933847
fuck you liar
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>>572933847
But I didn't spend any.
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>>572933838
You can still join. You don't have to interact with the guild. As long as you stay active and hit the weekly activity cap it's fine.
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>>572933847
>>572933923
nvm just checked only abyss is getting refunded..
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>>572933041
You can solo farm it but it's best to find a group (max 3 people in the party). Ask in the recruitment channel. Mention that you're doing Lv. 100s where everyone hosts each because some retards will think they should use their 200s or that you're hosting for others to leech. Mention the element too because some might want hydro enemies instead of the umbro you need. 2 Su Yi and 1 Fushu on the balcony killing enemies. You can stall waves and not pick anything to get more Prototypes. But you'll have to tell everyone how to do that. And the runs will be way slower if you stall.
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i'm just gonna pretend it's hilda's gun doing all the damage
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>>572934067
source?
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>>572931557
my (one time) max record with suyi is 9.1% (with tiny wedge space to grow still). but its super slow
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>>572934067
does this mean if I craft a shitload of compasses right now I'll get a refund and get them for 'free'?
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>>572936537
don't believe anything posted "only" here
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/dna/ would never lie
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i'm sick of farming coins
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So the next Phox skins are Camilla and Hilda right? Were there leaks for after that?
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>>572936618
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>>572934040
I don't really trust myself with that desu. Some weeks I barely touch the game and others I dump 50+ hours in it, my schedule is just too sporadic I'd probably get kicked within a month if I have an inactive week or two.

>>572934076
I tried one on my own just to see what its like so I don't grief people in multiplayer before I understand how it works. It doesn't seem to have a time limit or anything so there's not really a need for multiplayer, unless it get obscenely hard as the level cap goes up?
I guess the main idea behind doing it with other people is for every compass I put up myself, I get to essentially leech 2 for free because presumably everyone puts one up for the group to benefit from?
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>>572938539
oh noes, say it ain't so..
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>>572939202
>I don't really trust myself with that desu. Some weeks I barely touch the game and others I dump 50+ hours in it, my schedule is just too sporadic I'd probably get kicked within a month if I have an inactive week or two.
Literally all you need to do is do your daily memo since that counts for weekly activity. That's 1400 points right there and then you get another 160 points for 3 consecutive logins and you hit the weekly cap. But I mean, I'm not gonna force you. If you don't wanna you don't wanna that's fine.
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How many pyro volitions do you need for hilda?
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>>572939202
>I guess the main idea behind doing it with other people is for every compass I put up myself, I get to essentially leech 2 for free because presumably everyone puts one up for the group to benefit from?
Yes. The multiplayer aspect is to save on compasses and therefore on books. And if you're undergeared to be able to do this content with an I4 Fushu supporting your team. You get 3x the runs for 1x the cost. But if you only clear ASAP you'll have trouble getting Prototypes. At some point either solo or with others, you'll need to do wave stalling where you don't pick up drops until the coins on the right stop appearing, as there is a drop cap. Just like coins, Prototypes are auto picked no matter the range, but the serum stays on the ground until picked. Serum still drops even after the drop limit is reaches.
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i just crafted 8 compasses i hope that wasnt a lie
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>>572872432
>>572939913
Decabear thanks you for your service.
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>hell fell for it
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Friends don't let friends hoard gold books.
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tyraster save me
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Ensemble sucks but the overall update it still a success
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>>572941062
it restored a lot of good faith, and the story remains quite strong

If this game has a massive 2.0 version to build off this I think we could be so back
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STOP LYING ON THE INTERNET!!!!!!
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>wait for 1.2
>wait for 1.3
>wait for 1.4
>wait for 2.0
how much longer...
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>>572941421
Another hack and we can extend it to 3.0
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>>572941421
2.0 will be the proper relaunch of the game
So as long as it takes until that comes out, however many filler versions of 1.X they want until 2.0 arrives
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>>572941421
Trust Decabear. He has a plan.
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>Lolipope for 2.0
>They make her even more flat
>The entire new map is a Vatican managed by Lunos only
>Guild Wars
>10 player raids
All of this was leaked in my dreams. Gonna be great.
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>>572942280
Plan for a future where there are no more gold books.
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just finished the 1.4 story
is umbro MC good and worth building?
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>>572929130
>they give the best sex.
Not really. They mainly give you hickeys and bite marks.
Fat girls give the best sex because they try harder.
And before you say anything, try it. When i was told this i doubted it but after trying it's hard to go back.
Just make sure she isn't a literal landwhale with class 5 obesity, because in that case chances are she can't even move in bed.
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>>572935334
>>572936537
>>572936618
>>572939913
Not him but this was posted in a bulletin, i think.
It's old news.
But it's NOT a full refund. They just said "you'll be able to break down compasses for materials" or something along those lines.
As far as we know, might as well be a couple green books. So yeah, it's true that you'll be able to break them down, but that is all we know.

>>572939608
4 +10s.
Yes, i know.
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>>572943381
and also can we get any introns for them yet or no?
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>>572943381
>>572944032
No and no
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>>572943381
maybe when we're allowed to intron them
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>>572942539
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>open 2500 boxes
>0 blueprints
yeah fuck this mode
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>>572943985
>It's old news.
then stfu. and it was all only vague bullshit so far anyway
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>>572948172
I replied specifically because it was vague bullshit and they were being silly
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I need too many midget piece of fucking shit coins
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>>572947918
You are supposed to pay or play 23 hours a day.
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ensemble has at least one positive. I do have 10 maxed Flora up now. yet still have three times clues than when I started with
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>brand new character that just entered weekly boss rotation
>needs a new premium covenantor from the new raid mode that has to be +10
>melee weapon plus wedges that actually matter for her unlike every other weapon that was just a stat stick and the wedges could go fuck themself
>same thing for ranged weapon
>ranged weapon is also a fucking cataclysm weapon that takes 100x more investment than any other weapon that you just need to get 5 dupes of
Perhaps I got too cocky with every character before her, just being able to casually farm their wedges to an acceptable level
this grind might be the one to break me lads and I actually like the character :(
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we need wingspo ensemble
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what the fuck is this?
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>>572956615
Intruder alert!
Intruder alert!
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>>572952705
install the game on your phone and get an auto clicker to farm wedges
it doesn't get punished unlike full on botting
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When do you guys think they will powercreep the BPmons?
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>>572970559
i thought they'd start adding new better ones but the chickenbot is terrible apparently
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we need sexier geniemons
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We need more sexy evil hags.
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>>572975541
True. We need 'mons like Dazzi.
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>>572975818
When are we getting the sexy geniemon brothel
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geniemons should have their own wedges and movesets
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>>572975818
you posted this so many times you sound like a broken record
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>>572976548
He is a correct broken record
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>>572978385
Doesn't matter, he sounds like an obnoxious retard
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>>572975818
keep posting it
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>>572978385
>>572979564
>samefagging
the classic tyraster technique
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>>572951552
Ensemble is honestly pretty great for new / early game players too in terms of rewards. Even with the 800% books, you can use it to claim 3.2m coins, 172.8k globs, 1600 lunocoins, or 1200 SLC three times a week. After that, the wedge boxes help to greatly speed up the grind to +10 the old covenanters.
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>>572982160
Only if those new players open rooms in the first 3 days. After the whales are done, nobody clears rooms anymore.
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I cant find if it was actually confirmed that summit will be Umbro. Im fairly sure it used to be mentioned in patch notes before, but this time its suspiciously absent
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>>572394432
Where are the extra tickets?
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>>572984889
in 1.5 not 1.4 2nd half
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>TIL create stage
WTF I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO RUN IT TO GET REWARD?!?!? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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when will they start pandering to furries?
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>completely addicted
>last online 22+ days ago
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>>572986787
he OD'd and died....
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Even with the new wedgies and the general skill speed buff, she can just barely clear max level theatre. It's so over.
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just asking. why can i get help from a person if i think about them 30 times
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>>572987253
Kekzoo is the real winner in the end.
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>>572987734
what?
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>>572989967
unlocking characters with thoughts
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who is best for Abyssal
me still running Nifle Embla
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>>572991023
doing umbro for rifle? su yi
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>>572990189
Oooooh lol. Character summoning is kind of a meta power for Vita. It's explicitly stated that the Resonance can control charons and Nifle alludes to the fact that Vita can reach the Misty Sea. Basically, the characters we summon through the mechanic that was formerly a gacha are copies from the Misty Sea and not the "real" ones relative to our timeline. At least that's the implication, the only issue is that the devs haven't gone all the way with this whole thing so Vita summoning copies of charons with the power of Resonance is in kind of a semi-meta limbo.
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Okay, I finished full 10 calamity AR today. Still not seeing the megadamage promised 3000 years ago.
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>>572990189
The original system had something to do with time and hourglasses. Same pull animation as the current myriad, probably related to MCs' power and that sandy area that connects them. There might've at least been a loose lore explanation for playing as the characters.
They switched to the current system pretty late in development. It doesn't tie into the lore as well since it was put together after the base story/worldbuilding was already done.
Even then, "thought" is just the name, it's not the MC literally thinking of someone until they appear. Click it for a description and IIRC it was something like fragments of memories.
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Have they said anything about look at or reworking the calamity system?
4 gold books is a brutal entry fee. And even though you can do it co-op to cut down the grind/cost, having to commit time to do 3 back to back is still kind of annoying and there's a chance you just get scammed if someone dips and you were 1 or 2.
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>>572995462
I do 31-34%, on a few lucky occasions nearly 37% with this setup at i4 >>572930516
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>>572999609
Apparently they said something about being able to dismantle compasses to get back some books from next patch onwards but they didn't specify anything.
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>>572999609
No specific numbers given but they're planning a couple changes to try alleviating the grind. Look at the most recent Luno Bulletin if you want more info.
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>>572999609
ideal would be lowering the price itself, but headchink is too stubborn. so they "plan" to introduce partial cost recovery inb4 you get like purple book back
also I personally would like them to increase rate for extra compass drops but they of course wont do that, because together with above mentioned new system would lead to too many ""free"" books, which is big no-no. who would whale otherwise right
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>>572999787
>30
I buildered it just like that with your guidance, only on i2 tho, and do like 8.. the fuck?! there shouldnt be that much dmg difference cause i4 is only mana management trait and not directly dmg related
show your supporters too plz
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Is Flora just really fucking strong as a character or is the Calamity weapon doing all the heavy lifting and she's mid without it?
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>>573004829
flora's a good dps by herself but she doesn't astrogap the rest of the roster without her calamity, it's literally tailor made to shill her specifically
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>>573004829
>>573008837
does she work well in auto?
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>>572999609
I think they have to look at it in some capacity. If day one players are saying the entry cost is too steep, imagine what potential new/returning players will see with it. And it just hurts the rest of the grind because now people basically can't use their books on other things since they need to save it for broken weapons.

Not to mention that it will age like milk. Like imagine if someone wants to farm an umbro/hydro weapon in 2-3 patches from now when all the vets have already finished those weapons. No one is going to join and put up a compass for that when they'll want to farm the new element for the weapons that just dropped. Its just a bad system.
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Genshin player here. As many of you know, Genshin is in a sorry state. How is DNA doing? Did it live up to being the most f2p friendly gacha?
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>>573013960
Its getting there, been getting better and finding its legs since its launch. But not there yet, my guess is 2.0 will be the big make or break update. Its definitely f2p friendly, but very grind-heavy if you want to get into the higher end stuff.

Story is good though so if you want to check the game out you have at least 20-30 hours of that and then you can see if the rest of the gameplay interests you.
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>>573013960
Is slowly getting better but it's grindy as fuck. DNA needs at least 5 more good updates for me to recommend it.
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>>573014484
>>573014559
Unfortunately time is something I do not have right now, but I guess there's no free lunch.
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>finally get flora built
>take her into ensemble to let that hard work pay off
>not expecting to get the 20%+ that whales are getting, but I'll be happy if I can get 3% in one try instead of needing the two runs it takes me on su yi to hit 3%
>she does a grand total of... 0.3%
>I was unironically better off using my scuffed su yi spamming skill in ult for 2.5% than this unusable bitch who does basically nothing at the same relative investment
I'm torn between infuriated and depressed that I just wasted an entire week of time and materials building something that is literally the most worthless character I have in my account because I'll never get her weapon that apparently makes up 99.9% of her actual damage output and I got scammed into thinking the character did anything

I'm just so tired of this shit. Any time I try to get anything done in this game I'm just getting punished and deflated
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>>573027059
The last node of the Calamity AR is at least a third of her damage. You don't need the other branch of potentials to get it. Spamming those heavy attacks with S rank combo every 5 seconds or so adds up a lot. You need to get everything in order to feel something. I heard Sacred Favour is better than her own weapon. Truffle and Fushu together can extend your run by overhealing you. She has some exponential damage growth where you need all the puzzle pieces to feel it. It's not a linear one as most would expect. At I4 with big enough Siren Huntdown you have self sanity sustain meaning you can use Fina and Truffle.
Cheapest you can go for 3%, from what I heard at least, is a maxed Psyche. Everything is in the shop for I6 and S5.
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>>573027059
Also forgot to mention that most builds use a mixture of Resolve and Morale with Decay +3 equipped. That one doesn't work if you go Truffle and Fushu together because of the overheal. But you also need I4 to not need Fushu. And obviously you need Truffle's Turbulent Cyclone and Siren Resolve to be as close to max as possible to get said Resolve. Fina's wedges are important too like her Siren Focus. Crits past 100% chance can overcrit and do more damage based on how much you have 100%.
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>>573028957
>have 100%
have over 100%*
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>>573028542
>The last node of the Calamity AR is at least a third of her damage.
And the other two thirds are all the other nodes in her Calamity AR I'm realizing. Because that's literally the only other piece of the puzzle I haven't got yet (and probably will not be able to lets be real).

She's only I3 because of rng gating, but I probably can get I5 after weekly reset, or definitely at least I4.
All her personal wedges are +9-10 now
Her weapon (either the smelt 0 sig, or a smelt 5 sacred favor) has all +10 wedges and is fully built
Her ranged weapon (calamity) is all +10 wedges and full build, and is only missing the tree nodes ("only" 99% of her total damage, I know. but its the part that is unavailable to me go figure)

Like I said I wasn't expecting this to get me 20%. But I thought at least being in the same universe as a su yi should have been on the table. A character with this much investment should be comparable to other characters of similar build levels, but she's a fraction of them.
I cannot believe they fucked a character up this badly to where its my single MOST invested character and does 8 (eight) times LESS damage than my others. She doesn't even feel like a character, just a tool to make the calamity weapon go brrr which is such a shame
If I knew that going in I wouldn't build her at all. And now my favorite character is useless.
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>>573027059
Idk how long this will have to be repeated, but you do not need calamity weapon to hit 3% with Flora. 7% has been done with no calamity and no BP geniemon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXizFT5q5TY
A lot of optimizations should be able to be cut out and still reach ~3%.
If you're getting only 0.3% then you are 100% fucking something up with the gameplay/setup. You cannot be blaming the character when you're not even reaching 1% with Flora.
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>>573029213
>only missing the tree nodes
Tree nodes as in everything after smelt level 0? Only the initial node unlocked?
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>>573029287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TCw5MgBrSE
Linked the wrong video, this is the one with no BP geniemon and shows the build.
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>>573029567
Yeah, pic related

>>573029287
Trust me I would love nothing more than to realize I am just a retard that is fucking something obvious up that I can at least fix. But something that significant should be glaringly obvious. The person in the video is just going unga bunga like me but his % actually goes up and mine doesn't. I can't really see what I'd be doing so drastically different to get the disparity on the video alone. I'm sure there is some optimizations I'm not doing but in my head that should be like the difference between 5% and 7%, not the difference between 0.3% and 7%
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>>573029213
It's exponential growth not linear, but you should be getting towards 3% even if you don't know what you're doing with what you mentioned.

>>573029940
Was going to ask for the previous video how he has sanity sustain to slot Fina because Pyrootail and my 128% efficiency from Huntdown is barely enough even with Fushu. So you need a minimum of 160% duration. As for Huntdown I have no clue what would be the minimum value.

>>573030429
>Yeah, pic related
That's...less than just your average Excresduo. You would need to rush the second branch to even consider using it.
Do you have Fortune on your melee weapon to heavy attack often? Do you sustain her Symphony stacks by pressing E periodically? Are you able to use Truffle and Fina together? Are they built?
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>>573030984
>but you should be getting towards 3% even if you don't know what you're doing with what you mentioned
that's what I'm saying. I can get 2% on su yi just by spamming skill, and 2.5% if I "try" and she has only +7 wedges. There is no reason flora should perform this poorly.

I have Fortune on my weapon
Her symphony stacks are fine
I can use truffle and fina together as far as putting them both on the team but I don't have any of the fancy morale/resolve meme shit setup if that's what you mean. (I've been using fushu and fina)
Fina is built "good enough" for a support, not great though. I6 with skills leveled, wedges are hit or miss.
Fushu is pretty well built for a support.
Truffle is very poorly built I've never had success using her in any mode or comp so I just gave up on her trying to make her work a long time ago, she is just on my account to look cute really
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>>573027059
>>573030429
>she does a grand total of... 0.3%
Nigga what the fuck are you doing? I just did an ensemble and spammed E like a retard to see if that's what you're doing and I got 0.6% with calam wep that has pen morale and additional damage which means you're spamming skills on a melee attack character
Please say syke
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>>573030429
As a start, you're using S0 calamity AR. That has exactly 1 effect, which requires constantly shooting the weapon to utilize. You're getting less out of it than any random S0 stat stick since it's literally doing nothing in your runs.
To make a mistake like that, I'd have to honestly question if you really understand the related mechanics to Flora or if you're just following what you see. Nothing wrong with the latter, but there's a good possibility you're missing one of the more subtle details if that's the case.
It's hard say what exactly you're doing wrong without footage. I am also not seeing how you could be capping at 0.3% if you are genuinely doing everything right. (w/o calamity weapon)
>>573030984
>my 128% efficiency from Huntdown
So +6 Huntdown? Skill efficiency is one stat that gets "stronger" the more you already have. So the additional levels of wingspos have more value than it might appear. Plus there's +15% max sanity per level on top.
I have a +9 wingspo huntdown and I do still run out of sanity towards the end of the run without Fushu. Though it's only about 20-30 more seconds before Truffle dies then I die shortly after.

Another optimization for sustain is to wait a bit for Truffle to shoot her Arclight before starting ult. +20% duration with S5 Arclight.
You see it in the video where the start is only E spam.
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>>573032586
I just periodically check the ensemble thing between farming to see if there's an active room I need, and there was a 2000% umbro one up so I said fuck it lets try flora and threw on her in progress stuff to try and get in before it died. So yeah in retrospect a stat stick would have been better I didn't think too deep at the time

And I'm not saying I'm doing everything right I even said in an above post I was probably missing plenty of optimizations. I just don't think I'm doing enough wrong to be be doing effectively no damage. Like >>573032082 says even just mashing buttons and deliberately playing wrong yields better results than mine.
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>>573029287
What is requiem?
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Does /dna/ have a guild?
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>>573036701
only one and is ran by a guy who thinks lolis and children are the same thing
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>>573001989
Small disclaimer is that I also have a veteran Umbreon but that shouldn't be a huge difference and at i2 you should take Pyrootail for the skill duration since it snapshots like Intrepidity so if you use the geniemon skill before activating her ult, you will maintain the extra duration as long as you maintain the ultimate.
It's also important to pilot her right. Make sure that you maintain Symphony stacks. Start the fight off with 2 skills and use the skill after every Finale. Delay the Finale until you have 100+ combo to save calamity stacks and follow the Finale up with a Helm Splitter when you have 100+ calamity stacks (circled on the 3rd screenshot, currently at 0).
Also, no don't put Nirvana on Truffle. Yes, her healing scales with her HP but ensemble's HP drain is based on max HP and with Nirvana she can't outheal the HP drain on herself. The -HP/+skill efficiency wedge is also good on her because of this.
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>>573027059
I know this exact feel. Max Flora, watch video of dude running same set of everything. 25%.. I do what he did 7%.. WTF !! Did they nerf it in the meantime? Is there some retarded gimmick nobody mention until it is AFTER the next summit again?
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>>573036701
Yes, it's a half /dna/ half cunny guild. Two people haven't logged in for a week so I can make space for you if you want.
If you wanna join add me: 3000531132522
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what kinda wedges are best to use the green amp stimulator things on?
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>>573042768
calamity wedges
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>>573042571
>half /dna/ half cunny
>majority are actually randoms who applied in game
>still no deputy leader
you said you wanted to put a deputy from here
what's taking so long? you're not trusting your members?
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can you not get desirous from fishing?
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>>573042918
are those new?
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>>573043365
he is joking, there's no such thing at the moment
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>>573043237
I did. but dont want that
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wings inspo - ANYTHING still remains the most obnoxious wedge to make and upgrade
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>>573044307
yeah. its horseshit grind
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for me it's catshit meow
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>>573044307
After we get those crazy drop events so often now, I think the ones that use 2 character tracks each are worse
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>>573044645
It's even worse now with ensemble and compass eating up your books
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>>573044994
Even with the crazy drops, it's still slow as fuck. That's how bad the Wingspo grind is. Everything else is a breeze
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>>573037928
ty for info. I know most tips and feel im doing everything right, but results are still lacking. How are your skill upgrades on those three?
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>>573045703
this is the most egregious shit and I really hope they retcon it moving forward
there's way too much stuff that needs gold books and we don't get enough for it
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>>573046278
Guess i should have waited before posting
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>>573046278
>>573046510
fuck you
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>>573046278
what character you use for open worlding?
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>>573046592
You should also have waited

>>573046684
Hilda, no bots, regular free food. Just whatever i have on, really
Got an Ardent Mr Goodnight too, but it failed
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i want this lucknigger dead
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>>573047435
To be fair these are fairly useless at this point. I if i get veteran ill agree with you lol
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>>573045996
Flora is fully maxed. Truffle's heal is maxed, Fina's ult is maxed. The rest is lv8.
Try Dazzling Radiance as well and replace Fortune Threshold with Rage or Penetration. Maybe taht works better at i2 since at i4 your combo generation is a bit better as well. But with Dazzling Radiance you don't delay the Finale and you need 2 skills per Finale rotation to maintain Symphony.
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this is the most miserable thing to farm I have run into yet and I need 30 in total
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>>573048175
reforge your useless blues
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>>573047435
Yeah, gold energized and gold enduring. No veteran sadly. Got a rabbit too.
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ensemble is way too hard for semi-casual pleb like me
im glad for the "lead" buff tho
but if i were a new player, i think i will get discouraged by it
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>>573048540
the defense spikes hard at 110
nobody ever does lower levels because the rewards are worse
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>>573047657
I found ONE veteran in the wild across past three months (or since its in game w/e). and some nigs have like ten
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>>573048056
Alright, and is the general aim to finale slam asap at six or at full thorns? I have feeling this part is changing a lot depending on current intron.
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>>573048175
is it still relevant with maxed introns/calarifle tho? it seems all directed to autorefill mechanics without needing for normal melee attack
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Is left or right better?
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https://files.catbox.moe/nc3yrs.jpg
luno practice
i should start doodling specific ones besides snow at some point
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>>573051602
With Dazzling Radiance you Finale asap. With Crescent Flurry you delay it until you have 100+ combo so that you can save calamity stacks for free helm splitters.
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Flora tickets are rigged still. fucking rows of bronze only drops
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>>573051101
>and some nigs have like ten
I know and i'm also jealous.
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Any I4lets with advice on how to play Flora without her sanity being in the toilet after 30 seconds? Even fushu isn't helping



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