lemon woman edition[PoE 1]>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>ToTA Rerunhttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3968867[PoE 2]>Return of the Ancientshttps://pathofexile2.com/ancients>Ongoing 0.5.4b patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3980516Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCtPrevious lemon: >>572764162
comparison is the thief of joy
sneed
Are the servers utter shit today or is that me I can't tell.
>atlas tree still bad>tablets still bad>infinite atlas still clunky and burdensomeIn retrospect, this patch is very overrated.
>he is a jingakh
>be me>no way im buying a helmet for 200div, heres a cheaper helm for 80div, i just need to reroll desecrate mod>100 divs later
>>572886902
>didn’t use the picture of my dog>used some fucking vtuber picOP is dead to me
>>572887252make better shitpost images next time there's barely funny images these past few days
Any ideas for fun things to do with picrel? Reverie should give you a ton of health and mana regeneration but what interesting things can you do with that?
>>572888284i specifically asked for it to be a picture of my dog it's her birthday today
I havent played since launch really. Help me out with a build. What is the lowest investment endgame build? Is there a 1 button/low APM one for brainlets?
It's time to add 1handed crossbows. Merc needs them.
>>572889173I should have mentioned PoE2 specifically*
this shit is garbage but I will click it every time
>>572889228Maybe after they add all the weapons they promised.Two-handed spears that can't be thrown and one-handed crossbows that can't use grenades plus new skills for these weapon types sounds like something they might add later.
they should add 2 handed shields since maces are irrelevant
>>572889863just imagine...
hinekora's cock
>>572888648lavianga
>>572890082ravioli
>>572890082I don't think it'll work with Reverie at all, and those 40 regen don't mean a damn thing compared to 500+ you get from your Life Flask.I'm wondering what interesting things you can do with this regen. Specifically with mana.
??????
>>572890341it's called inflation, goy
Should I reroll this?
>>572890809Yes, you should turn that into a 3 slot and get a regal orb instead.
>>572890809next time look the prices up on ninja or install a plugin that does it for you
>>572890709this game is such a buggy piece of shit man
>>572890341Show us the supports, retard.
>>572889785small Tencent subsidiary indie company, please understand.
>ritual spawns on a tiny little island barely enough room to run around the effigy>and of course it spawns 3 bosses in a row with unavoidable aoe due to the terrainWhat the fuck is wrong with these dumb niggers? This is just a fucking trap
I said give me low budget braindead PoE2 builds
>>572891579spirit walker monkenow go, retard
>>572891345I mean Poe updates are fucking massive and high-quality compared to what you'd find in your average game. Just look at the crap Blizzard is putting out for Diablo 4.
>>572891579wa monk
Is there still no Timeless Jewels calculator?
>>572891750>Poe updates are fucking massivethey look massive, lots of smoke and mirrors if you ask me.The actual content of the endgame is mostly the same, same bosses, same maps, little to no changes or improvements to them.Abyss questline was absolutely dogshit and low quality. Exped half-assed.They are just much better at getting streamers shill for them unlike Blizzard.The dudes are begging other companies to fix their crashes and their shitty engine, GGG have no competent people who even understand their own engine to do it.>high-qualityName one thing that is high quality beside the faceroll pinnacle bosses?
>>572892419retard
>>572892419Many are saying this.
>>572892419You really don't play anything besides Poe, do you?
>>572890307I was nearly immortal with 1k mana regen and closer to 2k health regen per second but the tankiness of this setup is just inferior to ward stack (cause of no max hit). BUTSomething really cool you can do is grab full mana nodes, mana before life, and mana stack with ES gear (since we aren't scaling evasion) and go mind of the council. At a maximum roll corrupt with 2 head slots, you could be looking at roughly 300 or more added lightning damage to your attacks. Given lucky lightning damage is easy to access and you can basically go all in on crit since defense reduction won't affect your EB mana, you can get yourself some pretty pimping damage. If you can somehow grab a ton of strength or cheat in requirements, you can even go double empyrean for some truly retarded damage scaling with hits off of mana. Empyrean has high base crit and built in MoM, so you can get some good stacking that way. Big problem between gear reqs and strength reqs if you want to dual wield though, ideally you'd be full int but as of yet I don't know how to make that work and I refuse to do more research in trying to make these shitty memes functional because slams suck.
>>572892419You need to go back
ahhhhhhhhh yep another lovely night of poop 2
>>572892749Compare actual league mechanics (Runes of aldur). Ooh spider boss nobody farms, boss reskins and minesweeper for hours oh and unkillable monsters to waste your time.Nobody actually likes expeditions other than the great rewards it offers.
i just played for an hour and made no divs
>>572892937Thanks. I've never done mana stacking before, any tips?
>>572893190>New mechanic, new boss, new enemiesDiablo 4 didn't get any of that
What tables do I run for rite of nameless
>>572892937or you could not do any of this and just spark bloodmage for 10x the damage
>>572893550good ones, preferably
>>572893190Your superior Dilator 4 content, sire.
>>572893514they got a new mechanic. Poo2 also not gonna get all of that every new league after launch. Whats happening is that they are repackaging base game content they are finishing up with as leagues. Temple and Atziri is a good example.
>>572893332Dream fragments are kinda necessary but you're even further complicating stat spread for big mana. There's also GG mana breach rings you can pick up, many cool options but it's much easier to get it done in spell builds because of the crazy mana mods on spellcaster gear. A big part of mana/health stack in this game devolved into int or str stack as the primary way to get base stats that you can scale up, so look for int increases when you can. It's easier on other classes though, since the only good use of Azmeri Brew is having full mana and life 24/7 until you get one shot under Reverie regen. Be warned though, you'll be putting in a lot of effort for relatively small returns on your investment compared to a more traditional build. At the highest end of mana-stacking you let your retarded base mana regen take care of everything (mana regen scales off of a % of your mana).You should look at a manastacker tree for inspiration, but I'd wager a large amount of that will involve the expedition fork and either bonded runes or very expensive rings.>>572893568Yes but that's no fun and no mental effort.
>>572894259Nope
>>572894259>they got a new mechanicNo. All “mechanics” in Diablo 4 literally amount to killing waves of enemies and loot them. They can't even dream of something like Temple. If Blizzard had made the Temple mechanic for Diablo 4, it would have been just these plates without the Temple itself.
>>572892096poo2 is a casual game
uh oh blizztranny meltie incoming
>>572894412Thanks. I'll see what I can do and try out different builds. Maybe something with ward regeneration and skills through the waistguard.
>>572894809stuff like greater rifts is much better endgame content than repetitive autism maze that is temple. GGG just doesnt understand how to make satisfying gameplay loops, player come up with their own meta. Play for "tinks"
I wish temple was more like poe1 where it just gave double corrupt, 50 different temple-exclusive uniques, and temple exclusive rare item mods, not raw currency.
>>572895239you don't believe any of the shit you spout
bets on if we get an actual poe1 league this time?all of em since affliction havent even really been a mechanic>do every mechanic twice>breach but worse>rogue exile with extra steps>shrines with extra steps>necro...wait that wasnt even a mechanic
>>572895160Funny ward memes are best done on Shaman I think.
>>572895673I know, but I already have a shaman character. The reason I'm trying to do something interesting with the Huntress is because she and the Ranger are the last two characters I haven't played yet.
>>572895297If you think Temple adds more value to the endgame than content you actually fun to blast and actually scales and becomes hard and you dont have to waste time on busywork, then youre really mazed. Temple is interesting content, but its just not good gameplay and not something people want to actually play.
>>572895814Cope dilator you lost
>>572895791Huntress is probably the best Ward Dome user in the game>Get to run pure ward chest granting you north of 2.5k ward>No defensive downside because of stalking panther's double non-chest evasionShe can do same gimmicks with Cloak of Flame or some ES chest like a Regalia. I'm doing that now actually (Runeforged Brass Dome). As for ranger, the only cool tech I've seen has been self-ignite e-conc
>>572896015evasion sucks tho
unironically non trolling im more excited for the paid last epoch xpac than poe2 1.0
>>572896015Does it really give you enough EV? My monk has a chest piece with 2700 EV which also provides ES thanks to a passive node and I doubt that gloves, boots, and a helmet could make up for that even if their stats were doubled.
>>572896142Having an extra 2.5k HP on top of your actual health helps to make it not suck. I only die to absurd bullshit like Arbiter orbs.
>>572896219time to go to lost epoch general thenbye bye!
>>572896505time to play swords thenoh wait
>>572896301With my Mageblood up and mediocre gloves, helmet, and shoes gives me 4.5k Life + Ward, consistently up 2.5k block, and about 30k evasion + 19k Deflect. My helmet goes from 1.6k to 3.2k evasion, gloves to 2k, and boots to around 1.7k. I could get a lot higher if I pumped some evasion into the tree or upgraded my other gear, but there's almost no need for me to do it. It beats moderate ES investment from the few monk nodes, but it's not as good for your max hit as full ES+EV investment, if that helps to visualize it.
>>572896680aren't you leaving?
>>572896780arent you swording?
>>572896219>last epoch expansion>smaller than any patch they've done but *N E W CLASS* for 39.99>gets 1000 players and immediately gets shut down after>retards get money stolenyeah im also pretty excited for when their farce is finally done with
^-- gaped
>>572896778I didn't even know that helmets could have so much EV.
>>572888648Reverie, Doomfletch, Lethal Draw, Waistgate, and stack quiver effect jewels.Excess life regen from reverie can cover life degen of bursting decay if you want to do a little lifestacking for more phys, otherwise use cheap t1 flat phys rings and res.Main focus is just charge sustain and getting a good 8/12 corrupt on lethal draw. Rest of slots are used for res. Depending on which runeforge you go for on waistgate you can also stack ward and use the ward rune on weapon.Not a new build though, its already proven to be very strong, only reason why it isn't popular is because it takes belt slot in mageblood/hh league.
you lost
time to go back to d4g little gup, no one wants to play your rancid blizzturd slop
it's unreal how few people are playing armour charactersif you filter the list to characters with a minimum of just 20k armour, ninja only shows 3k characters
>>572897043That 80 ex helmet could go up to 1.8 at 27% qual and 2 sockets for instance.
>>572897493What happened to ex? It's basically worthless.
>>572897401No marauder, most of the weapons in that sector are missing and warrior ascendancies really need some more work.
>>572897401Every varashta is an armor char
>>572897401turns out needing 50k armor/100% armor applied to ele as a baseline to feel "ok" isn't very appealing when ES turns you into an unkillable god with almost no investment
>>572897401>Armour characters90% of them are better off running a Cloak of Flame or doing some other shenanigans than pure armor. Armor is strong enough to not feel bad anymore but it's barely enough by itself to actually make you tanky. Also, Ward is probably better.
>>572897709>unkillable godyeah because you either instakill the screen or are dodging enemies like a madman, not because ES is tanky at all.
>>572897909compared to armor, ES is extremely tanky
>>572897909When you go full ES with some minor investment, you're a lot more likely to survive the random stray hit than if you go full armor with some minor investment.
>>572897401My armour character has less than 20k armour though.
>>572897709ES is actually pretty dogshit by itself, especially with all the regen nerfs. Out of all of the defenses its the best, but still needs to fix other problems besides just "max hit".Varashta gets free armor from stacking it, evasion/es is absurdly overpowered and has amazing tree support, and a lot of people get damage transfer (via loyalty companion or es bypass on lich).But everyone is just turning it into mana now because this patch gives everyone free access to archmage (via absent amulet) and ways to ignore mana costs (gemling 0 cost curse triggers, totems, etc).
>>572898040armor is shit compared to es but that image is hilariously dishonest
>>572898678sounds like armorcope
Do you guys try to line up your nameless rituals in city biomes?
>>572898632>"es is dogshit">but half es half shitty ass evasion? absurdly overpoweredretardFUCKING retard, even
>>572898750retard
>>572898828Uh yes? 10k es and 30k evasion >>>> 20k es in survivability, and those are considered equivalent in stat budget.
I'm coming from D2 to POE2 to try it, and it's been fun. In D2, I've only ever done offline, so league is new to me. Are old league builds usually just dead on new leagues? I tried to make a reap build work by following guides, but it feels clunky. I'm putting more time in to my martial artist again to build up currency for my next alt (charged staff is still cool and whirling assault is fun). I think I'll try the warbringer ballista build because I like Engineer in tf2 and gw2. Turrets are fun to me. Was this nerfed in some patch I don't know, or would it be fine to look at older builds here? Also, this is making me want to give poe1 another shot. I tried it when the bestiary was new, but just felt frustrated not getting a single green linked green item in act 1. Now I know to not horde my materials like a fool.
>>572898752No point unless you're target farming t0 uniques or whittling rerolls with expensive tablets, if you're low just using them to use them without 10d+ tablets you should prioritize guaranteed bounties that give good payoff like big uniques or whittlings/div.
>>572898971retard
>>572898942yep armorcope confirmed
>>572899062retard
>>572899201keep squealing
What even goes here
>>572899286retard
i'm in early maps in poo1 and i want to regear but everything costs so much gold how can i grind a bunch of gold fast? regular maps are giving me fuck all
yep that's an armormelty
retard
armour wonlife wonzaccie wones about to take a few more dicks next patch
>>572898972depends on the builds some of would still work or barely working every league
>plug my build into POB>Show node power>every node related to resistance penetration glows bright reddo you think its trying to tell me something
Quin said playing ES is literally playing with cheats
>>572900763i mean he's right, if you play anything stronger than it's going to be in 1.0 you are literally cheating the game and yourself.
>>572900693retard
>>572901143seething bitch
>ritual on a 2 foot wide bridgefun
Poo1 chads how does anyone play a build without 75/75 block? It just doesn't feel right when there are so many effects that shotgun you with 80 hits in 1/10 of a second.
>>572901956They just accept dying constantly, as is their blockless nature
>>572900694Fair enough. I'll just dive in and see how it goes. Campaign is fun and it seems like a few chaos is enough to do an okay starter gear thing.
>>572900760Yeah its telling you to buy a rakiatas
yes goy buy the overpriced meme lineage support
>white ritual tablet costs more than 1 div
>>572901956get more damage and kill them before they enter the screen
>>572903845Yes a streamer released a video of slamming a whole quad tab of ritual tablets and making 450+ divines from it, yesterday.
>cultivate a Rathpith>forgot it wasn't already corrupted
>>572904228How do we stop the streamerman menace
What's a good "Tanky" build?I've done everything in this league but I'm sick and tired of playing mapping builds speedy fag builds. I want to play something that destroys bosses and never EVER dies.I have about 1000 div budget. More if I sell all of other builds shit.
>>572905324Lich and get like 95% of damage penetrates ESIf you die like that then you have a gigantic skill issue
how do you balance minions
>>572905985Removing them from the game
I been away for a couple weeks did they fix the game yet
>>572905419Sounds good. What skills?
>>572905985>fix ai>lower damage
>>572905985step one is to delete muster
>>572905985If your minions die you die
>>572854457This sounds really fun to try to build around; love uniques. Does it bring enough power where I can pick like any projectile skill? It sounds like a fun way to pump poison arrow or maybe some wyvern stuff. I still haven't tried crossbows yet either. Not sure which skills would just suck even in the best case circumstances.
>>572906246no, PoE1 servers are unfortunately still up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DE1T5Bue2c
Is 200div enough for an endgame ice shot bow
I like minions in arpgs
Is dance with death any good for Warrior? I want to play 1hand mace man without the chunky ass shield.
>>572910374Yeah
>>572910454Thank you anon. Can't wait to get my bonk on
>>572910374If you don't have block for avoidance on your armour character then it's not so much dance with death as getting your bussy smoked by death.
>>572910374Dance with Death is good but mace skills have more problems than attack speed.
>>572910374I'm using that on my GemlingIt's okay. Survivability is an issue. Even with 60k Armour, I've died like 30+ times. I'm honestly not sure how to make this shit not feel like I die anything anything remotely dangerous even looks in my direction on juiced maps. It sucks because I need Loreweave to proc my giga ice explosions and that shit has god awful protection and I have little to no other protections than my armour.I use Earthshatter to do damage and Whirling Slash to move. The entire screen pops are pretty satisfying though.
>>572911248Are you following the Phylaris thing? Do you have sufficient armour applies to ele? Do you have all the reservation skills or are you missing spirit?That build should not be paper to my knowledge so I think something has gone wrong.
>>572893731Its always funny seeing the mr streamermans being trapped in playing a dogshit game for shekels. And yes, im talking about poo2 too.
> tried using controller> maps are 20-30% faster because dedicated pickup button and auto aimI... I think I'll buy one of those fancy controllers with back buttons for this game
>>572912857poe2 is good thoughbeitdiablo poor is not good
>>572886139Not a good look for Larry atm
>Decided to make my own build>Spent hours looking at POB and taking nodes that make sense or give me large damage bonuses or EHP bonuses>Take it to an expedition>It's the worst thing I've ever played and even completing the expedition feels like a chorewhy did I bother
>lets do some breach>hive colony boss bugs out 50% of the time>log out
>>572913446a broken, dysgenic clock is still right twice a day, apparently
Can i make a spark build with a budget of around 170div? First time playing this league and made a warrior titan to level 92 but clear speed is ass. If so, who has a good noob guide?
>somebody keeps beating me to all the cheap swamp tabletsgoddamnit stahp
>wanted map device>kalguuran detonator map device from the free boxthanks mark
>>572913446>>572913696
>Decided to make my own build>Saw some crap that sounds fun>Threw together a bunch of stuff that could make it stronger>A bit slow but kills endgame bosses and clears T15 maps just fine
>>572914117that's not "your own build" lil bro
>totally not obsessed with trannies award
>Hey Tekless, I know is you ))))))
>>572914117changing a few nodes on someones build isnt making your own build
>>572914057it's still wrong the other 86,398 seconds of the day
Real schizo hours
>>572914316Wellcome to PoE, this is the real endgame, you're playing a game made by streamers for streamers, you must be new here
>>572914154>>572914243I probably didn't phrase it right. By “Saw some crap that sounds fun” I meant an item or node that would be fun to build around.
What mageblood legacy combination did you get
>>572914408yes you're very obsessed with some e girl we know
please somebody give me a step by step on how to craft an 800+dps quarterstaff under 100 divs im getting fucked in the ass by these expedition mobs
>>572915227
Had this dumb urge to build Blast Rain of Trarthus Aristocrat while the event is still around and boy it's mid as fuck. At least I got it out of my system though.
are expedition mobs really "just buy rakiatas lmaoooooo"
>>572915606Depends how much nonsense you stack but sometimes they get so much bonus HP that it really tests your build's dps.
>>572915647fully juiced expeditions should be the measuring stick instead of baby shit like delirium because I haven't been able to easily kill them, especially when there's the immortal rape squad with one or two small scorpions hiding in the corner of fuck knows whereexpedition mobs stack so much nonsense and get so tanky that you wonder if it's even the same fucking game
>>572915773Yeah it's pretty insane how retardedly hard juiced expedition can get. I saw Fub get deleted by a white once
>>572915773>>572915932this is just the same as temple from last league...
>>572916064Temple didn't have immortal mobs that can't be damaged or killed if you don't find the tiny white mob stuck in a corner of the map or that spawned in an inaccessible area
>>572916117temple had (and still has in beacons) that gay ass priest boss that goes underground and gets stuck therezaccie's rampage never ends
>>572886139Is that comrade Lumao?
>>572916287柑橘妓女 yes
JONATROON
>>572912460I've got a 50 Spirit Amulet. Most of the same gear of his 50 div budget version. Not really sure what I'm doing wrong.
>>572915227Ele or phys
>the best mace build right now is some attack speed stacking slop>you use a spear skill to move>don't even play WarriorI'm so fucking disappointed in how melee has turned out so far. It just feels so fucking gay.
Imagine if Duelist gets Static Strike in POE2
>>572915647Haven't really noticed that much on martial artist hollow assault at a few million dps. Its more about hit rate and AOE coverage than extreme single target dps.
>>572917195>need elemental infusion to trigger static strikes for 1 secondcomfy melee skills are verboten in poe2, I'll be mildly amazed if static strike or cyclone ever see the light of day
>>572917363infusions are banished to the caster cuck zone due to stormweaver, swords in poe2 are gonna be heavily elemental themed so there's a good chance duelist will get lots of cool toys
>>572917167physpreferably with +4 or +3 melee skillsive been trying different ways on craftofexile but no matter what i do it seems like im going to get raped by luck i guess it all comes down to just get lucky
>>572917195Sorry, sword skills will be entirely revolving around blood/sand stance or consuming parry debuff
All swords will have parrying built-in, even for two-handers, and allow for powerful ripostes Dark Souls style.
>>572917195>the only movement based melee skill so far is Resonating Shield>heavily limits how fast you can go to an insane amountMelee is never getting something like Cyclone without some kind of FUCK YOU Troonathan bullshit.If he gives me actually fun melee skills on Swords and Axes that don't have some secondary bullshit that makes it not fun to use, I will take back everything I've ever said about Troonathan and defend him to my grave. But until that time, I doubt Melee is ever going to be fun in POE 2.
>>572916396>柑橘妓女
why are you guys assuming that swords are gonna be a rerun of no fun allowed maces when quarterstaffs and spears have been strong and fun as fuck
>>572917634swords will be a ranged weapon that shoots out more swords or sword waves
>>572917706Quarterstaff is good because it's the monk weapon and GGG's CCP overlords demanded them be good.Spear is barely even melee. The two melee skills people used to use were nerfed heavily. The only good skills on it are all ranged.
>>572917706>quarterstaffs and spearskek>>572917715actually axes are ranged hybrid, they have throwing attacks
>>572917462for nowthere's no reason they couldn't have infusions on attackshell, it even opens up a path for a spellsword ascendancy, which might be cool if infusions weren't tedious as fuck
>>572917807>actually axes are ranged hybridI realized this the moment they teased some axes footage and I saw stupid bananas flying around.I hate it so much, it's gonna be weightless projectile spam instead of swinging a sharp hunk of metal/stone and tearing through enemies.
>>572917468Merc fracture is out of your budget range, but can probably do a flaring. Greater chaos and desecrate alterating until you hit dictators/tyrannical+. If you ever hit merc then you are safe to whittle spam, otherwise settle on t1 flat ele and tyrannical+Finish suffixes via whittles if you have merc/dictators, +5 skills is safe from whittle, attack speed/crit are not. Can always gamble suffix cleaning with essences and astrids.The ideal starting base is a crit fractured merciless for phys for perfect c whittle spam and ending with a desecrated flaring, but its extremely expensive to craft.
>>572917959they won't be all bad, hopefully
>design the game from the ground up with a focus on melee combat>melee is at the absolute worst in the series history>ranged / projectiles do a gorrilion more damage while being tankierFailed project. Wait for PoE3 to fix it.
>>57291818420 div budgetliterally an hour farming low tier garbage maps in expeditionslichalready at 80% hits pierce esmfw im now doing 200% deli and grand expeditions easilymfw my friend is struggling to do these as mace and on like 300+ div
just refunded and used the money for diablo 4 battle passes
>>572918184>strike skills are inherently ass>ancestral call lets you hit TWO extra enemies, once every 3 seconds>projectiles have multiple sources of multiproj and can scale single target DPS to the moon with any way to have them bounce back towards a single enemyjust gib multistrike and/or make strike AoEs significantly larger>it's okay for projectile/aoe builds to delete entire screens but herald chaining is OP for some raisin
>>572918393HARD AS HECK
why don't preserved collarbones tink anymore
>>572918564Proj is cucked in poo2, non "barrage" style projectiles cannot hit a target more than once no matter what, even when returning.Twister and spark are exceptions with their hit rates listed in skill, and frost darts is a barrage style proj so it can shotgun, but not from forks I think.
there is not a SINGLE good melee skill in poe2. the weapon must touch the enemy. go on, name one. you can't.
I just love filler maps to set up good maps. GGG is genius
>>572918857>Proj is cucked in poe2 we only have a few ways to offscreen clear packsYou sicken me.
>>572919135I really love dying and then having to rollslop past every pack for a minute straight so I can kill a boss in three seconds. niGGGers really need some actual competition.
>>572919174I mean its literally just twister and spark being overtuned due to having special behavior. It was extremely disappointing when I tried return proj on falling thunder and it didn't do shit for single target.Also there are a lot of AOE skills that are still tagged as strikes, including tempest bell.
>>572886139poeg is a lumi thread
>>572918857shotgun skills merge, anything with an AoE component (like fireball or plasma blast) can overlap as far as I'm aware, and I thought the entire point of "chain from terrain" was that it could chain back
>>572919592Yes if it has an AOE it can shotgun, but plasma blast can't get its pierce behavior overridden so unless its up against the wall you can't shotgun with it. Also they moved almost all the damage to the projectile hit, the explosion is pretty small part of the damage now. The AOE part is what makes brutus lead sprinkler so powerful for shotgunning, yes. I don't believe terrain chaining allows it to hit the same target, that's more for having "missed" projectiles redirect to other targets for extra clear.
>>572919720Its pretty obvious why falling thunder can never shotgun though, it already can hit for several million damage on a single proj, allowing it shotgun with all proj on return would mean leaguestart gear monks would hit for close to 1 billion damage on a single falling thunder with power charge stacking.
How do people get helmets with Zarokh's Gift? I got really nice ES helmet with 450 es and resistances and 2 sockets but it has no Zarokh's Gift
>>572919947Raven touched shard augment
>>572919991Bro you just scammed me for 90 divines, why?I bought that shard and put into helmet and IT CANNOT BE REMOVED and THERE ARE NO ZAROKH'S GIFTMoron why did you do that? Is it fun to make wrong advices? You're not AI
>>572920467lmao
>>572918184new idea, give melee more interaction with culling strikeI want a weapon class with 0% crit but implicit culling strikebonus points for a new herald with "enemies culled with melee attacks explode">>572920467holy ESL>Raven-Touched allows the item to be instilled with a notable passive.
i don't know what kind of juice heads are paying 20 divs for Ritual tablets but I'm damn sure selling em
>go to caer tart>put head of the king in>puts map back to car tart>have to scroll all the way back to the edge of the map where i was>spend 15 minutes figuring out the best route>go back to base and use map device>puts map back to caer tarth>have to scroll all the way back to the edge of the map where i waswhy is ggg so retarded
>>572920785If you're playing on controller like you should be then you just press triangle.
>>572920625actually now I wanna try making a werewolf witch hunter with herald of iceI'm sure it would be awful though
>>572921721It sounds like a very confused character fantasy.
>>572921938theoretically it's feasiblesorc ward defence, global culling strike, double explode on killin practice werewolf sucks and there's no way to globally convert phys to cold so witch hunter explode would be stuck as phys damage, and sorc ward was nerfed, and it would lack single target DPS, culling strike only gives ~5% effective DPS against uniques vs 40% from No Mercy
What rarity should my character have for endgame
>>572922489Everyone says hundo so just do a hundo.Good luck finding the affix space for it.
>>572920785they should learn from grand strategy games, which they are copying with that atlas map, and give the players an actual zoom function that seamlessly goes from atlas view to a simplified overworld view. they don't even have to significantly change anything here, just make it possible to zoom out and more and greatly reduce map detail over a certain threshold. then you indicate routes the player took as little lines on that map and it's done.I can see one problem tho: the atlas is notoriously slow. when you move around, you likely noticed how chunks of it need to get loaded in all the time. that's probably also the reason why you are not allowed to zoom out more. it's honestly possible that the game is ULTRA fucked, when you consider that the regular 2D map has a load time, and the constant mid-game reload screens that have not been solved since 0.1
>>572919116Spearfield
>every few maps the game freezes, gears start spinning and Jonathan rapes my SSDExplain nyow!
>>572886139Hahaha
>>572923193theyll fix it for poe3
10% less damage for each metre you're from the enemy would fix all the balance issues in the game
>>572923985You're actually describing pootoos accuracy formula.
its nice to play this game with big player base, very good for economy
cringe
>>572890928You can't PC from within the remnant menu.
>>572919116Whirling assaultSpearfieldHammer of the Gods
>>572923985Does absolutely nothing to totem/minion players then
>>572914831we are obsessed, yescome, join us
>>572923187such a based skill. the fact that the spears that come out of the ground are a visual copy of the one the player is using turns it into perfection.
even blue mobs of the last few runic remnants give me trouble what the fuck....whats the cheapest single target build i can reroll to right now?
Damn, now they are everywhere.
>>572886304sez the party play chonk player
>>572886879>he isn't a jingakh Imagine allying with matriarchal desert niggers. Couldn't be me.
>>572889136Yeah, you know what, fuck OP.
>>572889173>What is the lowest investment endgame build? Is there a 1 button/low APM one for brainlets?Entangle druid. You could theoretically press 2 buttons but you don't really have to. Spent less than 20 divs and killed all pinnacles in a moderate timeframe while paying attention to the mechanics, i guess with an investment of ~150 divs at most you could just stand there and instaphase them.
>>572889228Once again, Diablo 3 is the better game.
>>572890119kek
Call me a retard by all means, but how do I select 5 maps for the rite of the nameless?
>>572928596nvm fixed it
I'm retarded, I've done plundered point in Act 4, where do I find the missing recipes?
>>572929091you find them by finding them
Do the absent amulet allocated skills cost spirit or they are free?
>>572929692persistent skills from items are free
anyone playing the poe1 event?
>>572929687What's those three dildos icon?
>>572929773I logged in and played for a bit and wondered what i was doing with my life
>>572929804https://poe2db.tw/us/Ancestral_Bond
>>572929773Nope. Flickerstriked my way to kitava, clicked my box, then closed the game.I am not about to burn out before 3.29
I'm in the mood for some poe2 but when I think of the first act slog and the fact that I have to play some boring safe build just because I want to play ssf makes me not logyeah nahalso, why does everyone and their fucking dog love act1 so much? I think it's the worst part of the game by a large margin. I'd rate act4 the best followed by act2, act1 and 3 can suck a bag of dicks, horrible.
>>572930295POE2 direly needs melee, axes, swords and general fun skillsIts always the fucking same you can only divert fr om the given path once you have 1k div
>>572930295Because it's the most thematically cohesive and dynamic what with you recovering npcs.Doesn't have a gimmick.Also if being vegan sucks have you tried not being vegan.
>>572930295>fucking dog love act1 so muchit actually feels like a new game
>choice is a gimmickI hate poopoo2 sycophants so much it's unreal
>>572930571act1 in poop2 is copy paste from diablo 1 town. act2 even though it's the generic sandnigger zone it has at least an interesting town. same with act4. act1 is just tristam and act3 is act3 from d2. most uninspired boring dogshit.
>>572930707retard
>>572930707Act1 is tristam, act2 is caldeum
>open a chest, keep on running>a currency item dropped from the chest, have to run back to pick it up
>>572930295>>572930707why are ssf players always the most unhinged retards around? is it some sort of self-humiliation fetish?
>>572931429They enjoy the challenge posed by not ingesting lysine and the resulting glass bones and paper skin.Is it really exercise if you can recover from it quickly through proper diet?
what exactly is the reason for simulacrums not spawning when reaching 100% deliriousness? it seems to happen to me with every second grand mirror. one thing I noticed is that sometimes you run a single fogged map, and then the next map suddenly jumps to 200%. when this happens, the region does not spawn a simulacrum for me.
how the fuck am i supposed to max out elemental resists AND chaos resists while playing a ranger? not even getting into stacking increased rarity.
>>572932693By using gear with high-tier affixes, runes, jewels.
>>572930707>>572930295what I hate is how the acts, and zones within act 2/4, dont visually mergehow do you get to the vastiri? who knows! maybe sin just picks you up and flies around with you all the way to the desertact 2 you use the caravan to get to the edge of the desert, but the caravan/boat are a problem themselves, you just click to go to new map area, rather than walk therehow do you get from the temple to kingsmarch? who knows!unfortunately this is something they wont change and its awful
>>572932693Easily? Just have tier 1 res on each bit of gear. It's relatively inexpensive to do so and doesn't usually take over a slot of something else you need.
>>572930571>it actually feels like a new gameIf by "new" you mean Diablo 2. Hooded one is just copy pasted Deckard Cain.
>>572933534You don't understand anon, Diablo 2 didn't have these things therefore no ARPG will ever have them.
I fractured 50 spirit on a gold amulet.Am I really expected to spam Chaos Orbs until I get +3 skills in the class I'm playing?
>>572933578r e t a r d
>>572933971>FEEL>THE>WEIGTH
>>572933971you will roll nothing and be happy
I've got like 400 divWhat's a good "dude I'm immortal" build that can actually kill bosses? I'm so fucking tired of playing Deadeye. It's so fucking gay and lame.
>>572934274varashta, it requires 0 divs to shit on the game and you never die.
>>572934330this so much... i've beaten every boss in the game in hc and this is one of my rings
>>572933971>crafting has never been easier!>*chaos slams worth a mirror*>get your dream amulet now!>*rmts more chaos orbs because his viewers pay for it*>follow these easy steps>*3 million steps later involving several inventories full of omens*
My god crafting is boring now
>>572934274from what I played this league:>apocalypse shaman with trampletoepretty OP on a low budget since over half your gear is cheap uniques. sprints through maps like an autobomber, the only thing holding him back from zooming is the frequency of apocalypse strikes.>plague bearer insane as always on various classes, but they usually require some investment into defensive gear. on a 400 div budget you should be good tho.
TORVIANCRUSH THE INTRUDER
>>572933971No, you're supposed to sell the chaos orbs and buy a +3 50spirit amulet for a few divs
>a few divs
>steadily climbing ranks in tota>start new match>immediately gets one shottedmaybe cheesers were right
>>572935485
>>572935724SILVER COMET
>>572923187When I use faridun impaler I chuck knockback on them because the spear field they spawn does a hit as the enemy travels through it, so it ends up shunting the enemy through the whole field in half a second and doing a million hits.Do you get the same thing with spear field?
>get foil ingenuity from reliquary>5exkek of course they'd never give me something good
>>572937065>t0 unique in 0.1>dogshit unique in 0.5
>>572929773YesI'm trying to figure out where the shit I am meant to get enough GCPs to get my shit to 20% quality.For stuff that says it gives + to gem quality level, that can go over 20 right?
>>572937065>>572937150ingenuity will never see buffs or relevance ever again, but mageblood and headhunter will always exist
bro i can't ufcking stand ritual anymoreliterally going through all 10 pages getting nothing but dogshitmy fucking god
>>572937065>put on ingenuity>put on kalandra's touch>free ritualist ascendancyit just works
omg you still brick the citadel map after dying, why
>>572938920retard
>>572935181What does the bear build look like? I couldn't find anything unique heavy while looking around.The perfect strike gemling build has been pretty spectacular, even if the explosion cone isn't "hit with weapon". I need to try juiced content and not just like t15 maps, but high armor, block, and opportunity flask, it's felt really smooth.
I want to push the most basic Mace / Shield build as far as possible, anons. Absolutely meta game the shit out of this. Make him as "tanky" as possible in Armour with as much life as possible.Should I start as a basic Warrior / Titan? Or should I play something else? I'm thinking Shield Wall because it's easiest to scale damage out of that without screwing over your armour.Gemling has some nice stuff with Quality, but Titans 50% is hard to beat. Especially with Constricting Command and a well placed expensive Ruby to further buff those nodes.
>weekened>dead threaddead game, dead genre
I was hoping for the sceptre from my first Bodach kill, but this haunting effect doesn't seem bad.
>>572939720>poo2 killed an eniter genremany are saying this
>>572939280apocalypse shaman is not a bear buildhere is the original video of the guy who came up with ithttps://youtu.be/TSMxaWXO3ms?si=dQzHaxRnn60mBe_8QRD>weapon set 1 is all your defensive stuff and recovery>weapon set 2 is all +skills gear>hit enemies with plant skill to charge up apocalypse>cast apocalypse (the only skill on weapon set 2)>run around for a minute and watch everything die with trampletoe explosions>apocalypse also freezes bosses quickly and then deletes themwhat I've noticed is tho is that the original build is almost *too* tanky. I played a bit around with a +4 amulet and was able to delete pinnacles in seconds. here is my version:https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/23fa9
>>572941545forgot to mention a bit of tech: >self-cast elemental weakness is for triggering the rising tempest support gem in apocalypse (counts as all 3 elements)>trinity is the only spirit skill active in weapon set 2, and only there
>>572930295>campaign is endgame but with shit gear but with story sideline to make the process more enjoyable and have static markers for you to know if your build is dogshit early on or not im glad you fucks are not game designers
>>572941821Trinity in weapon slot 2 doesn't do anything though right? Since you have to stack it up?
>>572935846>This shit combination for 5 div
>>572942515it shouldn't work, but it does. you only use weapon set 2 for casting apocalypse. my guess is that it somehow snapshots the trinity buff.
>>5729426585d is nothing, lil bub
>tub of shit 2
gg boys we did it
>>572943162>poop of excrement 2
Slow and meaningful.
>>572935724retard
Apparently next poe1 league will be a rerun of some old league again (hinted by streamers who already got promo info)
>>572944231that was tota for the event league retard
I dunno PoE2 feels like a mess and these endgame quest lines were gay and the infinite atlas is dogshit.Roll on 3.29
>>572944231I can imagine them doing delve 2 since they've done other remake leagues but i think it would be a bad idea
>>572944429One of the streamers said build variety is gonna be good. What league mechanic promoted builds variety? Crucible?
>>572944231>mercs
That ToTA event might be the worst pile of shit they've released since endless heist.
>>572944231>metamorph rework
>>572944542Crucible had a bunch of special weapon modifiers that gave you what trans gems do now but everyone played totem explode.
>>572944231I'm not upset by this. I don't mind 1 being used as a beta test for mechanics that they intend to port over to 2
>>572944554>mfw I will soon be able to hire merc as a merc
mercs, swords, flicker strike, RF = all redditoid slop
>>572897401I only play builds/archetypes that feel good from act 1. Armor doesn't do that.
>>572945410retard
>>572914305Stop living in the past. Lord of Hatred fixed literally every issue D4 had.
>>572939575>I want to push the most basic Mace / Shield build as far as possible, anons.wait for 3.29 in poe1
>>572897401armour to be good requires almost perfect items while es just needs 2 prefix rolls, flat and hybrid es.to buff armour all they need to do is have flat and percentage in the same roll at their flat and percentage individual values so it can free prefixes for things like life and flat damage
>>572946276retard
>armourhttps://www.twitch.tv/alkaizerx/clip/OnerousNeighborlyGoblinVoteNay-aQAzjWvGAkqUTupo
>>572929773>no wasd>socket links and colorsPoop1 is an unplayable game.
>>572946432you get used to it
Crafting in Diablo 4 is more fun than in Poop1/PoE2.
>>572946276They hated him because he spoke the truth.Gonna go try to fix my boots with some whittling gamba later. mana -> armour.
>oneshot by ignite again
are they gonna do some skill gem rebalancing for the next poe league?i think they said they are planning them in the ziggy interview right
>>572947043bro... ur charms...? ur ignite duration reduction affixes...? ur reduced ignite magnitude on you nodes...?
>are they going to do X for poo1 league?no
one thing i am interested about is the uniques they are planning on choosing for the other scion class since they are shuffling them every leaguei think theyll go a bit ham on it because of how low the playrate was this first time
Yeah I uninstalled. I'm not dealing with this 20,000 shaders download bullshit that's going on every couple maps.
>>572934330>>572934834I know nothing about this ascendency. Do you have a video?
>>572947452it has definitely become worse after one of the recent patches
If your build doesn't run ES, I'm not interested
>>572918357What skill? I thought you couldn't use spells witgh that chestpiece
>>572948348retard
>>572948517But it gives you 100% reduced spell damage, that's a lot to lose
blue life (i sleep): energy shieldblue life (real shit): mana
I was thinking about the expedition problem and couldn't you just cull them using one of the rarity cull builds? All monsters in expedition are normal/magic with only very few rares so would the instant death deal with the retarded amount of defenses and buffs they have?
>>572947043Hilarious how there's no visual indicator that your character is burning to death by a fire that's as hot as the sun
>>572948641no its not
>>572947769I used Decree of Loyalty with overcapped corruption. 345% and 233% and CI. 44k Armour (102k Armour), not including 40% Skill Quality Arctic armour, so 240% increased armour, scavenged plating for 40% more armour as well as Barkskin. I had around 200k armour at any time as well as 8k ES.I'm not even sure it was possible to kill me.
>>572948706Monsters with ward can't be culled lmao
>>572948706no
>>572948783When I take a node with 30% increased damage I get like 10% more DPS on a lategame buildYou ain't gonna sit here and tell me 100% reduced damage and 20% reduced cast speed isn't a big penalty
>>572948348Well for starters, he's lying.Specifically:>already at 80% hits pierce esBecause, to hit that total, he needs a Legacy of the Unleashed which is almost 300 Divines. The most he could have is 68%.>>572948641>100% reduced spell damageA small price to pay for massive defensive bonuses.
going through old videos trying to see a glimpse of act 5 and 6
>>572947552level a sorc to 20 and do your suckmyasspick disciple of varashta put points in khelari's deceptionfin.
>>572949045yeah i am, solving offence is infinitely easier than solving defense and offence is currently ridiculously overpowered
>>572948823>>572948823>>572948823I want to try something like this but it seems absurdly expensive.Guess I'll forever be stuck as a retarded unga bunga Shield Wall Warrior
>>572949280spark coc niggerfaggotrygot it
>>572949216you forgot>socket muster>collect all the shitty minions>die of cringe
>>572949343cope
>>572948925>>572948952Can you take their bullshit buffs for yourself with headhunter?
>>572949207the acts were finished long time ago. to no one's surprise jonatroon is just straight up lying, like always.they just had to redo all the melee skills because of how poorly maces are perceived. do you not find it odd that in 2 years of early access they have not released swords or axes or claws or flails?don't worry though, they'll be as shit as maces because jonatroon is living in his own reality where people love combo game play.
Why should I care about corrupting a tablet
even after 0.5 whenever i reach endgame i just kinda get bored and want to start a new character (created like 5 characters already this league). Think its because my build wont change all that much anymore (i play on ssf), any tips on that? I wanted to do the late game quests and shiet
>>572946276Armor literally just needs to do what the character sheet says it does. 50% armor should reduce all physical damage i take by 50%, it's literally that simple.
>>572949417IT ACTUALLY IS SPARK COC SHIT, I FUCKING KNEW IT LOL
yeah lets just spawn some bullshit that takes no damage.
>start playing bear druid>reach level 40, end of act 3>notice it's the same +total attack time visionary comboslop as maces>stop playing bear druid
>>572949640cope
>>572947552>Do you have a video?Youtube is right there, my dude.Twitch too.We have at least 5 different Anons ITT who have posted their Disciple of Varashtas.
>>572949630it still won't be good enough because degens exist and slam exist.take a slam from a delirious mob with 10k es and then take a slam from the same delirious mob with a 3.5k life armour character and see what happens.
>>572949630Against most hits you're reducing it by much more than 50%. You're literally making it worse.They need to get rid of the shitty percentage on the character sheet and show you an average flat damage reduction so retards stop having the wrong idea about what armour does.
>>572949698>1 level before Bear's first good skill, RampageSad.
After trying a variety of auto-bomber builds, I came to the conclusion that I really, really like freezing stuff with the crossbow permafrost bolts. Any cool (heh) build or secret tech that pumps the damage to be viable in 200% deli without mirror budget? I have a 1k DPS +3 crossbow lying around from the league start.
>>572949872>rampage>goodjesus man
>>572949756I accept your concession niggerYou could have just said it from the offset and saved yourself some humiliation lmao
>>572949787any reason why armour cannot apply to slams and degen???
>>572950021delusional
>>572949896If you figure it out then please do let me know because this is greatly relevant to my interests
>>572950086ask zaccie
>>572950108>still replying despite losing so hard
>>572949216it's called sexgrandmas okay thank you
>>572950086armour applies to slams + asymmetric game design, lil bub
>>572950131fine, but it will take me around 2 weeks to come up with something on my own
>play mercenary>try out a build I saw>invest on it>its dogshit>go back to my side ranger character to farm gold>go back to playing mercenary>try out a build I saw>invest on it>its dogshit>go back to my side ranger character to farm gold>go back to playing mercenary>try out a build I saw>invest on it>its dogshit>go back to my side ranger character to farm goldAt what point should I just ditch the merc and become a full time ranger main
>>572950534go gemling and try another build
>>572950156ew, I might be a degenerate on 4chan but I have standards too
>>572950395https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/pohx-shatter-tacticianThe best one around is this I think. Between this and looking at people on ninja, it should take you a lot less than 2 weeks to come up with something
>>572950534The current OP Merc builds are tactician pin and a variety of gemling builds. I built my gemling wrong on purpose (persistent gas grenades) and besides taking 30 sec for pinnacles, he is an unkillable fart machine wading through a sea of knee-deep green gas where everything dies as soon as it touches it. you cannot even begin to imagine how comfy wave encounters like expedition, ritual or hive are with gas, you just stand there and watch them breath in while they thank you.
Does having a bunch of ritual rewards deferred lower the amount of new rewards I see in a new window?
>>572950668I'm not a planner guy, I'm a test and see what happens guy
Hi, I'm the Queen of the mist and here is a box full of omen of resurgence.
>>572951320I would like to delete her from my rituals
I have to make 100 div today. What do I do to make that
>>572951368no refunds
>>572951421Get a part time job at Burger King
>>572951129Sounds fun, can you post pob or a build?And isn't the tactician pin like insanely expensive and needs like 1000+ divs or some shit? Same for most gemling builds, all the autobomber ones need insane amount of investment.
>>572951320I laughed because it's so accurate>Think the special low rate for a special ritual and increased rewards will give me special rewards>nope here's 10 omens of resurgence please enjoy
I HAVE SEEN BEYOND
Man... Fucking melee sucks in this game. It isn't that it's terrible, it just feels so fucking shit compared to 1. Quarterstaff and Spear don't feel like Melee at all. Mace on the other hand doesn't have any of the really cool slam abilities like POE 1. Even just the basic, simple, straight forward slam ability required over a year to come out and it's not even a mace skill, it's bear. Furthermore, all mace skills come with some kind of downside almost it's fucking wild. And we have no good strike abilities to work with.Even worse that almost every single fucking melee skill comes with some sort of caveat;>this requires you to combo with x skill or shout at a specific time to trigger fissures which then can be further trigger by other specific skillsLike for instance Rolling Slam. Feels clunky as fuck to use, but you literally cannot scale it with attack speed or skill speed like you can with Spear skills. (Like all mace skills except Earthshatter, which only recently got the rework). It has a set animation time which you can only marginally make faster. Even with a perfect rolled Mage Blood on Gemling with over 40% quality on the skill for more skill speed. You cannot turn this into the insane level of speed Whirling Slash gets. Not that I'd want to, I want to have those big meaningful slams or big strikes. But it's just more proof of how limiting maces feel.I just was a simple, basic melee build that doesn't come with several dozen down sides I need to work through in different ways.When the fuck do we get Axes and Swords and how badly are they gonna fuck it up?>Uhhmmmm... Ackshually, you need three power charges to use Cyclone for 3 seconds and you loose 300% movement speed on use
>>572952261retard
>>572952261>the best melee skill on mace is either a Shield Skill (not mace and can be used with a Sceptre or a Spear, doesn't require a mace) or a ranged ability where you shoot earthquakes at enemies off screenkek
>melee is so bad:<<<what about those actually good melee skills?>uhhhh... uhhhh ummm... they arent True Melee (TM) akshually!!mentally raped
>>572952647>make ranged spell>tag it as melee
lmaooo another bricked citadel thank you ggg
>>572952816retard
Leveling a tactician right now, never played him before. Holy fuck pin is broken, why no one talks about it? It completely disables common monsters instantly even with small dick galvanic damage, does not care about ele thresholds and bosses don't seem to have a reapplication cooldown.
>>572952758yeah, i hate poo1 slams as well
>>572952636they fumbled maces because they refuse to nerf the screenclear of bows/spark/coc etc
>>572952816idgi
>>572953054Because you have 0 defenses, mainly.So if anything hits you, you explode.And you gotta get a Split Personality (north side) to reasonably fix it.And also because it's been played to death.
>>572952261>>572952636Maces feel like they're almost still designed with FEEL THE WEIGHT bullshit. Leveling with the feels like ass unless you go Bleed Poison and get yourself 30+ Spirit and another Aura gem early on for Resonating Shield chains. Not really realistic as a league starter, or use Shield Wall at 22. And even then it's very slow compared to a lot of the league starters I've done as Deadeye or more recently, Martial Artist.You can scale Maces decently later on. They'll still be garbage compared to the actual meta. But you can do all content with them once you get some good gear. But until that point, they feel like they're still stuck on the whole DUDE DARKSOULS thing.It's really odd.
>>572951494sorry i don't have a phd and 10 years experience
>>572953159why can't maces also have screenclear
>>572953805they do
>>572953805they did, but they didnt like that it was carried by herald of ice so they took it away.
>>572953805They do, but require some pretty heavy investment depending on what you want.And they're almost all reliant on Herald of Ice to actually screenpop. Even as Gemling with Stampede's 20% MORE aoe (which is 100% getting nerfed or reworked), it still relies on Herald of Ice chain pops.
>>572950534You kind of have to cook your own shit to have fun rerolling I think, just aping a build isn't the funnest by itself.
What are your thoughts on Ascendancies not really being tied to really solid archetypes? For example, there being no "absolute minion ascendancy" etc? I think it is a fine idea, just has to be implemented right probably. There really shouldn't be "THIS ASCENDANCY IS THE END ALL BE ALL MINION ASCENDANCY" But some might argue that is not the right idea. What do you think? Should there be an ascendancy that is very very good with minions and the like? or should there be an ascendancy that is strictly totem shit etc? The main conclusion I drew is that if there was an ascendancy that was so good at one archetype, you would never not use that ascend for that archetype which seems odd in a game like this. So all minion builds would use the "necromancer" ascendancy because it has the best stats for those types of builds?
>>572954342Poe1 figured out how to make classes viable for multiple different archetypes and give people room to experiment, then poe2 put limits on every gem so that you would never combine anything in unexpected ways.
>>572954342I don't mind it, but I also don't really like Monk being the best Undead Minion build because you can stack Chaos DMG on them. Making them leagues better than anything Witch related.I have no problem with them being good, but it should be a side-grade where their actual arche-types are involved imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OnhfghB8ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OnhfghB8ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OnhfghB8o
>>572954765this is how an average poeg poster looks like
looking for actual answer please>>572951421
>>572955209swipe ur credit card
>>572955209how many hours do you have?
>>572951421farm olroth for the 50+ div support
>>572955209Market flipping.There's lots of options.The lowest-energy (as long as you have enough gold) is cycling Div>Exalt>Chaos>Div (sometimes you gotta go backwards, pay attention to the ratios
>>572955209most of the basic farming strats are 30-40 div/hr when executed rightsim splinters, abyss omens, breach catalysts
>>572954342Honestly, it sucks. Yeah I understand the>We don't want a BiS ascendancy for minions againBut even in the absolute height of PoE minion necromancer guardian still had good enough minion builds. I think both points are valid, but it's leading to gay generalist ascendancies that are either OP because they have a little bit of everything + 1 strong specialty or suck (old Gemling and current Smith) because they have a little bit of NOTHING and the old specialty they had either got overshadowed or raped into the ground for being too good at the only meta scaling factors in the game (stat stack, crit, level stack)
>>572955324>>572955435i'd love to know why this place has a superiority complex over reddit bc it's literally the same nerdy stand up wannabe puns and le ironic joke replies>>572955612I appreciate the actual response but I have looked into this and the ratios are always never worth it. It would take cycling 100s of divs I don't have just to make a profit of 3 chaos
>>572955815>i'd love to know why this place has a superiority complex over redditwe're allowed to say nigger and they aren't
>>572954619I can kind of see that. it would be weird if the best 2 handed slammer in the game would be the blood mage or something. I think their balance team is going to have to work very hard to prevent strange outliers like that from occurring. But at the same time, I don't want to them squelch potential build options. I have always felt that there are sort of archetypes within archetypes. So there are definitely "minions builds" but what about builds where you aren't hiding behind your own minions and instead in the fray as well etc. So there are definitely options, I think GGG just needs to cultivate many options which can be hard.
>>572955209While >>572955721 is right the barrier to entry is expensive tablets and pathing to city maps, so over the long term it looks closer to 20 an hour on average. If you want cheap entry gamba atziri boss rush is a solid div per run minimum with the option of a 400 div jackpot while you path through travel maps towards your city maps. The easiest farm is tablet farming white ritual/abyss/breach tablets to sell for a couple hundred ex each or maybe even a div.
>>572955916there are lots of subs that say it
>>572955209Swamp Mastered Domain tablets.
>>572956035there are a lot of subs that say that in here too~
>>572956025>option of a 400 div jackpotnta which is this?
should my second character be twisters or grim pillars
3.29 when...
>>572956501when you say grim pillars do you mean totems
>>572956701yeah
>>572956627On Monday NZ time we'll get an announcement, surely. They were just busy celebrating USA day yesterday.
>Try to copy a crit build>Realize the amount of div investment I'd need to make a crit build work is utterly, completely and hilariously retardedFeels like you need like giga luck or RMT to make some builds in this game
i do find it interesting that all the people on reddit claiming 40d/h are now backpedaling saying it's close to 10-20
>>572956470atziri's communion lineage
my god expedition is juicy and i didn't even use the giga tablets on this one
>>572956846you really dont need much investment man, maybe like 10 to 20 divs to hit crit cap. your passive tree does most of the work. the damage doesn't come from crits anyways it comes from all the other stuff
Do you think there not being swords or axes in PoE2 before main release was a huge problem? I think its unfortunate because the side of the tree with the least shit(strength side) is fucking ass unfortunately. I personally love maces but mixing something else with the mace has always been hell. Mostly because with a mace, you probably need to use a strength adjacent weapon because mace is pure strength. So you it is harder to mix a weapon in that doesn't involve strength at all. Whereas casters can utilize so much because nothing is like "staves only" for casting etc. So a caster can use all the elemental gems and all the occult skills etc without having to fuck around with weapons too much. or hell even stats I guess. occult and elemental have the same stat spread right? All int?
>>572956857you must spend a lot of time on reddit if you know what all the people there are saying
>>572957000Don't you want a Garukhan's for crit builds? That shits like 600 divs dude. Not to mention crit weapons tend to cost twice that
>>572957051yea im on reddit all the time
>>572956846when you're first trying a crit build to see if you like it, always ignore crit damage bonus, focus on crit chance and use these
on the topic of crits, arent expedition mobs immune to crits? or highly crit resistant
>>572957149spark doesn't use garukhan's. i got my spark online for like 10 divs
hey im a total noob here, if you're running 4 breach tabs in a city are you supposed to go around killing as many aliens as possible? or just stabilize and kill the rares that spawn asap
>>572956470The life reservation support, alternatively you can make good back if you hit the ES Atziri's
>>572957773depends
>>572957040Am I a schizo or was Warrior a blonde gigachad back in the first demo of the game?>>572957149Garukhan's is only really for something with the adequate base damage to respect the double crit, and biggish base crit builds (spark for instance) doesn't benefit since crit capping at 100% is easy whereas getting above 75% crit on an attack build is relatively hard.
fubgun touched me inappropriately during exilecon.
>>572954342It does not work. It blurs the lines too much (even more so with split personality in play).Minion shit sprinkled across each ascendancy is extra annoying (especially if it's also bad, like with tactician or smith)And of course in the end people WANT strong identities, and in absense of those will just flock to whatever provides the most direct power.
a standard white crossbow mob just hit me for over 8k es 4k life
>>572959189retard
for some reason i love playing warrior even though he feels so bad to play in hc. sunder and shield wall are so fucking satisfying
>>572959680>sunder>satisfyingI like the rocks but that little jump ruins it for me and I can never enjoy it because of it
>>572936987Never tried it, cos I set it to Pin for a cheap immobilize.Won't take a moment to check, though.
>>572959680maybe I should continue playing my smith shield wall I leaguestarted with, I kinda ditched him very early on and went monkey; only picked him because I wanted to try something different to start with over the usual minion cuckery
>>572958458>Crit capping is easyWhat nodes do I take on ranger's side of the tree if I want to max crit or at least get to 50?
>>572960841everyone including 8 perfectly rolled emeralds with crit chance to attacks + 50+% suffix effect. its that easy.
I just realized I almost never cast my mirage archer because I almost never dodge roll. What is the best single target, single gem slot setup for 60 spirit?Apparently I have way too much spirit and have no idea how to spend it (have Herald of Ice, Mana Remnants, Ghost Dance, Wind Dancer)
i just leaked memory down my leg... >_<
Just dropped my first ever mage blood
>>572960989rage for general attack stufftrinity if you do ele damageconflux is alright but kinda wonky especially if you only do 1 type of ele damagethe best would be straight up atziris communion + direstrike 1 and 2, both are 60 spirit.the mirage skills are quite bad once you get proper gear especially because of the lack of garukan and rakiata support gems. these gems make up half your damage and mirage archer doesnt get them.
>rogue exile keeps dodge rolling across the entire map and healing to full every hitthese fags dont even drop good shit
>>572949828>You're literally making it worseWell yeah, the entire game needs to be rebalanced from the ground up.
>>572961468owned
>>572956801Do arc totems instead on a gemling Probably the most overpowered thing I've played that is easy to set up and I played comet bm last league
>>572961468They dodge roll after almost every attack. The rangers are worse because its dodge roll + escape shot
>>572961653Yeah the ranger spams escape shot and the bitch is halfway across the map in two skills lmaoThey're not hard just really obnoxious enemies
>>572961550>easy to set upisnt it super expensive to set up and needs big money like the autobomber setups?
>havent seen the "RELEASE DUALIST NOW" guy in a whileDAMN YOU JONATROON! LOOK AT WHAT YO DID
is atziri considered a pinnacle boss
>>572961468that's what u get meleebitch
>buy cheap ring>throw an essence on it>sell it for 20x the price>mfw it actually fucking sells
>>572961886Not really, no. I probably have a few hundred div invested into the build and the majority of that is my wand. You do need to mana stack though and should only swap over until you have close to 5k mana.
>>572961236Alright, thank you. I'll look into rage.I deal a little bit of every type of ele damage.I just came to the point where you don't really need snipe or even barrage and can just breeze through 200% deli mobs with single button Ice Shot while running with reduced mov. speed penaltyBut t16 deli bosses or bosses with Hilda take like 10-15 seconds, which is not comfy. So, I wanted some single button skill or 60-spirit aura purely for deleting bosses (which is not Snipe I don't like it)
>>572962294She gives you atlas points if you kill her so I guess
>>572962720>is it expensive?>no>few hundred divs
>>572960841>Crit cap ranger/huntardGo down the south side and grab the crit effect and reduced defense node, path up and grab the crit nodes from the outer wheel including +1% base crit to attacks, go inwards to monk jewel, and then path up by resonance to the big crit diamond. Easy 65% here with near perfect crit % on an akoyan and that's before jewels. You can get a huge crit timelost emerald by the daze and attack crit wheels on the side also.>Crit cap spellsLol, lmfao. Maybe if you're playing bloodmage or have get absurd scaling via green lich, otherwise no without like 8 perfect diamonds.That should be more than enough for Garukhans, but>Get 100% critYou absolutely need max rolled jewels for this now ever since the crit nerfs. Save for having a +6% crit weapon (sanctified) you aren't crit capping without jewelry easily.
>>572962945>>572960989>>572961236https://pobb.in/LaZsCk0UHszyCan I get some help on how to improve my ranger here? I started it as an alt but idk how to improve, make it better or where to even go from here to make it capable of farming expedition.Feel like I might need to respec the tree too but idk what build to copy or what to even change.
>>572962945easiest way to get rage is to get from a breach amulet. gives you the 100 spirit for free. atziris communion would give you trinity "for free" and then you could use your 60 spirit for direstrike 1+2 with the option of getting pain attunement. I am sure you can double your damage that way. trinity is a lil bit tricky to set up but possible. 2 elements would be enough for a 42% more damage bonus. rite of passage stag version, heart of the well with cold+light but use your catalysts for light and maybe get an against the darkness with lightning damage+spirit. herald of thunder can also proc it. took some time on my ice shot pathfinder to properly set up but its possible.
>>572960841>what nodes do I take if I want to max crit?I genuinely do not want to be mean to you but for the love of Christ Almighty what fucking nodes do you fucking think you should fucking take?
>amulet with no +skillsmight as well rip your own head off
>>572963448retard
>>572963073Oh I hadn't noticed that diamond, that'll help a lot.
>>572936987>>572960416Oh yeah, it works real nicely.
>>572963647You have no right to say retard when you are literally so god damn fucking stupid you can't even tie your own shoelaces or wipe your own asshttps://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/zn21yb0t
>>572963272>Farming ExpeWithout Rakiata I wouldn't bother since endgame expedition still has a bajillion enemy res, but a few notes>Helmet is pretty bad because of att req roll, just eat the cost and get more int on gear somewhere>Grabbing minor nodes without grabbing notables is a bad idea unless you have spare passives, unspec the ele attack wheel leading to pen and buy a rakiata's>Path up by stats to avoid the slightly unoptimal starter wheels, you aren't Monk>Mark wheel is a meme and you'll almost certainly get a better character doing something else like grabbing jewels in the lower right and upper right>Timelost jewel by the node that has daze (daze is strongish)>Path by outer wheel and just accept you'll lose some access to defenses and path innardly to as extra monk nodes, maybe defenses if you need it>Spirit + Level Ammy so that you can ditch spirit on chest and get a 2.7k defense chest>try to get some chaos res so you don't melt to bad modsThat's sort of a quick improvement guide I can cook up without thinking too hard. The pathing is a little unoptimal because the inner wheel is lengthy, has no jewels, and generally only has like 2 good notables a hexant.
>>572963772Yeah, Monk's section is absolutely loaded with bullshit, I imagine a Varashta with MEGA timelost jewels can probably shit out big numbers
>>572963272>0% chaos res>1.5k life, 2.2k es>65% evasionjfc anon you must get thanos snapped if anything so much as sneezes on you
>>572964168Thanks a lot, I'll apply that.You got a ranger pob I can copy or at least look at to improve the tree?
>>572963595>weapon with no +skillsmight as well rip your own head off
>>572964401I can give you my Huntress POB for crit to see how I path but my character is close to 1.5k divs in so it's not quite 1-1. It might give some inspiration, but since you're playing an ice shot ranger maybe you can see what Fub is doing on an attack based build. If I had to say back when I was doing attack,>imbibed power, stimulants, wellspring with a lavangias is big valueHere's my current Huntress though, since I have a mageblood you'd have to prioritize maybe more defensive nodes rather than the weapon wheel or big pathing to extra jewels the way I did. I'm probably not the most efficient here and my jewels could be better, so I'd also appreciate if any anons have thoughts they'd like to share.https://pobb.in/p4F9XlWeSqOb
>>572964927retard
>>572965240yeah, you are oneLOLLLLLL
B T F O
>>572961505retard
wow TOTA is way more retarded and gay than I rememberpoo1 is washed
Besides Jado, is there anything else I can do to increase the odds I drop lineage supports?
>>572966024Forest tablet, waystone chance (allegedly), maybe azmeri spirit for boss drop quant and a grand mirror for two bosses? You can't control the last two though.
>>572965984>tota is tubbed>thats why they are adding it in poo2lmao
>>572966024Some say "%Waystone Drop Chance" (tablets, maps ..) but I'm not sure I believe them.
>>572966024waystone drop chance on your map increases it as well, not on tablets tho. you can also force a forest biom with a tablet but from my personal opinion thats useless. these bosses drop 2 lineage gems most of the time anyway.
>>572966287tota was made during the BFR era and it was so bald and stinky that GGG still refuses to port it to POE2
>>572966374>refused to port it to poe2>there's a dedicated side quest for you to do to ascend via totagrim
>90% Evasion>95% Deflection>75% Chaos resenter 200deli map, take one step, get immediately one-tapped, repeat numerous timesEvasion still the king of defense :)
>>572966578Just runeforge all your gear chud, it's the way (until life on tree comes back)
>>572966481cope harder, tota is a poo1-only stinker
>>572966578if it makes you feel better I have 20k es and I got 1 tapped by an essence crossboner
>>572966374i'm beginning to think bfr was the one holding back jonathan's genius and poe's potential all along
>>572966761works for me. sounds like a skill issue
>>572966868>BFR leaves>we instantly get currency exchange and async trade on top of a billion QoL additions we were always told was "too much work" or "not the vision"
>>572966578retard
>>572967036Async trade was only necessary because they bloated the game with 100000 currencies and scarabs and other bullshit. They don't get credit for fixing a problem they caused with their own shitty decisions.
>>572967185Holy fucking cope
>>572966868
spirit of stag or ox for expedition ? running bayblade, does ailment threshold help at all ?
>>572967185all of that was added under BFR tho? retard? and bald fuck refused to address the issue? retard?
>>572967314cat, the answer is always the cat>b-but my build doesn't use cri-cat
>>572967571cat is only useful for medicore builds. once you have gg gear you are easily crit capped 50% even without the conditional cat. so the proper answer is ALWAYS stag especially for crit builds.
>>572967223You can't tell me turning everything into chaos and divs at Faustus is rewarding gameplay. It's easy, and it's necessary because there's no other way to interact with the economy effectively, but it's not good game design. There is no soul in farming identical harvest plots for 6 hours and turning it into a pre-crafted item that someone else made for you. Trade league fucking sucks now because they listened to too many redditors. You're just a hamster on a treadmill and any deviation from the streamer strategy is immediately punished because it's all about doing one repetitive thing with maximum efficiency.ssfhcbtw dont @ me
>>572967754Kill yourself you fucking retard
>>572967842Get back on the treadmill cuck
>>572967696>50%I'm not taking advice from someone who doesn't know that garukhan cap at 75% sorry
>>572967970nigger are you retarded?
>going through hours of humiliation rituals to the enjoyment of third worlders just to convert currency was a GOOD thing actuallyI'm glad BFR is gone and retards like you are being driven out. Take the hint and leave POE1/2 altogether.
>>572967234>be Jonatroon>get BFR fired, take scrap PoE2, make poo2 as a shitty ass Dark souls wana be ARPG>tubb it to hell and back while praising it in interviews and hailing it as the next big thing>release 0.1>BIG SHIT>try to appease the angry playerbase you spend 2 years lying to>cave in like the jewish pussy you are, abandon the VISION tm, make the game a shallow clone of BFR's magnum opus>also, someone powerecreep it into oblivion in 4 ( FOUR!!!! ) patches, killing any hope for a slow and methodical ARPG to ever exist>proceed to lie in interviews that its intented and not a sperg reaction to the backlash of the playerbasenoticing
>>572968075yes, also the +30% ele resist is useless
>>572967970garuhan doesnt work on bayblade and cat is too expensive, im not paying rmt tax
vgh.... we mvst... RETVRN!!!!
>>572968358>Garukhan doesn't work on baybladeWhat? You can't just put it on whirling assault instead of a damage link?
>>572968167The game is better when you don't try to compete with 3rd worlders on who will sell their time for less in-game currency. If only there was a mode for that.
>>572968349you dont take cat or stag for the evasion or res, retard. its for the ms&attack speed on top of the damage. my character has 50% crit chance (75% for you autist), why would I take the cat in this scenario? it would do NOTHING for me and no, replaying crit chance on emeralds is retarded since there are no other useful suffixes. you can get crit chance on jewels, you cant get gain as lighting on jewels.
>>572968547Is this brown to brown communication?
>>572968547I know calling him an N would have been detrimental to your account, but this nigger deserves to be called what he is. At that point you shouldn't waste your time on politeness or questioning intent anon, sorry to the bearer of uncomfortable news. After the first ok, you send invite and if he doesn't join he doesn't join, only going to serve to upset yourself further chatting with hagglers.
Is 150 overkill for rarity
>>572967754yeah thats a gvke in my books
>>572968212>killing any hope for a slow and methodical ARPG to ever existno rest for the wicked exists, though
>>572968639cat is better, stag a shit
>>572967314fubgun says ox
WHY IS THE CONTROLLER UI SO MUCH BETTERI'm actually so annoyed at how the game transforms into something better when you switch to controller and so many QOL upgrades get added with the tradeoff being that menuing is absolute fucking aids
>BFR records himself playing a Diablo 2 mod>first thing he notices after QoL improvements like automatically picking up gold>gets visibly mad and frustrated>gets to the Den of Evil>"WHAT THE FUCK!?!">says his inventory is TOO BIG and throws his headset, breaking several things on his desk>"I SHOULD BE GOING BACK TO TOWN AT LEAST 3 TIMES *MINIMUM* TO SELL LOOT AT THIS POINT!!! THIS IS BALDSHIT!!!">knocks his entire setup off his desk and shuts off the streamhe's a psycho
>>572968903with shit gear yes its better, with good gear its worse.
>>572969181once you get used to it, inventory management is faster and more comfortable on controller toothey keep talking about mk/controller hot swapping but never add it because controller players wouldn't use it
>>572969181It's really something new to be honestIn 0.4 you would literally prefer to kill yourself than using the currency exchange on a controllerNow it's better and faster to use than kmbThere's still some tepid shit with controller though: the gem stash tab, the tablet management etc. but yes, it gets betterit's already at a point where I'm not mad anymore at the absence of dynamic / seamless switch between the twoanyway, kbm users will never know the joy of never stopping to loot, keep attacking and moving while pressing X a bunch of times and loot the whole screen
>>572969386I'm mainly a controller player and I'd use the shit out of hotswapping because swapping to your mouse/keyboard for menuing will always be far better
>>572969247Logistics problems like what to pick up, how often you go back to sell loot, and how you route through the game are actually more interesting than holding right click to cast fireball. Shooting fireballs at monsters is the initial hook that gets you interested in solving deeper problems about how to progress physically through the game world and conceptually through your character build.
>>572969568this. inventory size should be 5x2 max. decisions matter. bald.
>>572969386>>572969513it makes no sense though like pause on controller actually fucking pausespress esc on kbm and a mob can 360 snipe you while you look at your gems???
I hope they include titanic shell in poe2 tota so they would also suffer
>Corrupted Waystones open a Random Map Area when used on Basic MapsWhat does this even mean. I read this as a vaal side area kind of deal but 2 dosen't have these
>>572954342Everything PoE does in regards to class/archetype identity is fucking trash, and literally every other arpg does it better, especially Diablo. There should be very strong and limited class identities. There should be a necromancer class that summons dozens of skeletons and no one else should be able to summon skeletons at all. Weapons should be restricted to certain classes, gems should be restricted to certain classes, the passive tree should be about half as big and also class specific.>b-but muh choice!More choice isn't always better, and PoE is the best example of that. Instead of about a quarter as many tightly balanced choices you have a giant mountain of nonviable slop.
I want to play permafrost bolts, what's the best way to make it actually work?
>>572954342>there being no "absolute minion ascendancy"it's the entire reason I've never attempted a minion build further than act 1gib minion ascendancy already
>>572970076Imagine all the "normal" maps (so not the maps exclusive to watchtowers, Matriarch, Patriarch, Unique maps, etc.).Now, when you open a corrupted Waystone with that passive allocated and it's not on one of those special maps, you'll be taken to a completely random map.So let's say you see a Flotsam map ahead with some good modifier on it.You can either:>Clear it normallyOr>Corrupt and shuffle it to an entirely different zone (like Epitath for example)There is also 1 map that is exclusive to that Jado modifier, which lets you get Vaal surgery prosthetics when you complete it.
>>572969874the balded tortoise? that's a BFR creation, no may Mark would put that crap in PoE2
>>572970357Disciple of Varashta and Spirit Walker are explicitly minion Ascends.Two entirely unique flavors too.>Okay, but you can play both completely minionlessGood design. Minion Ascendancies aren't JUST minion dumpsters.Spirit Walker does need another non-minion node for freedom of choice though, lol
>>572970360Huh very interesting
>>572968874i meant it as in the context of poo2 being one, should have been a bit more clear, my bad
>>572968570you can put it but it doesnt on clones, some nerds tested it
Next league mechanic should be a currency credit card where you can borrow divines and if you don't pay them back then loan shark pinnacle bosses come and kill you in maps
>>572970487djinns aren't real minions, they're spells that scale with minion damageand spectres are boring and require farming for good mobs to resurrectI want skellie armies
>>572971110thats just tradecore league
>>572970560poe2 was never going to be slow and methodical, they were explicit about that fact from the very start. they wanted a campaign normies could enjoy and then the same old juiced zooming endgame.>we made campaign zones bigger and more maze like, speedrunners are going to hate it. -chris 2019>two campaigns, shared endgame-exilecon >juicing and zooming is a core part of the poe endgame-mark and jonathan 0.1and it's ggg so doing some one monster on the screen, it would be white mobs with 2 billion hp.
>real minion ascendancies have never been tried before
Challenge: make a build that can kill all pinnacles and finish all challenges with a 1ex unique in every slot, no rares, no jewels on the tree.
next league mechanic should be a roguelite card game with gacha
>>572971286>Doesn't count cause I said so!>Doesn't count cause I said so!Okay.Then just play an Oracle. Oracle's fantastic as a Minionmancer (You start Shaman and convert later when you get enough Spirit to offset the 120 from no Charms).>NO, my Ascendancy must be COMPLETELY DEDICATED TO MINIONS OR IT DOESN'T FUCKING COUNTThen go be miserable elsewhere.
Post your magebloods. You do have a mageblood right?
>>572971467nigga if people can kill arbiter naked then you can do this any day.the challenges are ridiculously easy
>>572971801i dont even have a character waitin for the game to not be shit
Neat
>Sweet, Windscream in my Rituals>Unfortunately, gotta defer it cause I have a handful of other mid-tier Uniques I want in deferral currently>Few maps later, Windscream dropLmao
>>572971801Yeah in PoE1
do you think they can make act 2 and 3 enjoyable
>>572972000retard
GGG insider here, they're announcing 4.0 for PoE1 at Exilecon which will have PoE2's campaign ported to 1.
>let's give everything chillmeaningful
>>572972828THATS ALL PEOPLE WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WHAT WE GOT INSTEAD IS A GAME THAT WILL BE RELEASING WITHOUT EVEN HAVING ALL OF THE CLASSES SEVEN YEARS LATER
>>572971665oracle might be neatapparently raging spirits can work well on lich tooI wish infernalist was better, there doesn't seem much point in it when multiple small hits contributing to flammability magnitude doesn't scale ignite damage
>>572972828actual insider here, tubcon 2026 will be for the announcemtn of mobile poo2. also, poo2 EOS
>>572973182Why are scat fetishists like this
>>572972828wonder how bad fighting geonor in poe1
>>572972828Jonathan here, 4.0 will be announced at ExileCon 2027 to coincide with the release of all the classes in PoE2We will be backporting WASD alongside the new character rigs and as a result will need to make some minor balance changes to account for the increased mobility of the players.
>>572973246BEGONE
I CALL UPON THE STARS
>hiding behind proximity shield>still gets stunned>immediately diesthanks storm guard
is this enough armour?
>>572973140Yeah, there's a huge design quality gap between Ascendancies.>Most 0.1 Ascends are weak/boring/bad/mechanically bland/some mix of the previous>Almost every Ascend after 0.1 has some special gimmick/trick/mechanic that is thematic and memorable>Even the good ones, most Ascends in PoE2 lack point options (Witchhunter, while good, is the biggest offender of this, you're never taking Sorc Ward without applying it to all damage types, you're never taking the Concentration thing without it also boosting damage, you're never just taking Culling Strike without Decimating cause Culling does very, very little on its own)>They're finally going back and fixing up old ones with shit like Gemling getting an extra Quality for EVERY SKILL GEM>Chayula Monk actually is in a good spot now with the sizable caveat that he's genuinely bad until you get the Tornado thing (Flames is a bad mechanic and all his 2-pointers either suck or suck without their 4-pointer modifierThey just need to push a little more in this direction, fix a few things, and Ascends will be generally great.
>>572974024depends
Who leaked the tub?
Is Mathil gay?
>>572974058on?
>>572974181wouldn't you like to know, weather boy?
>>572974037>Most 0.1 Ascends are weak/boring/bad/mechanically blandso like poe1 then
>>572974245bitch
>>572974294Getting a little defensive there, jonathan
>>572974450lol
>>572974037Some ascendancies need straight up mechanics changes to compete with modern ones though, take Smith's nonsense for instance>Every single node is bad, even fire spell on hit>The one decent node got brutally mogged by gigagloves on MAIt's not even comparatively fair. And gemling, gemling is good now sure because alt qualities can be very overpowered. The rest of Gemling and Verdant Barrier itself? Genuinely underwhelming and pretty bad.
Hi! I am a new player using witch (infernalist) I have been absolutely struggling with act 3 first map. I have bought lots of uniques with energy shield and some items with armoe, unique sceptre, shield. I am using minion build with hellhound however I absolutely cannot survive to save my life lol. I did with the giant beetles especially and I'm almost always 1 shot out of nowhere. If anyone can give me tips please help!! I love the game however becoming discouraged with playing since I can't get through a few mobs without being massacred. I also don't know if maybe I'm lacking resistances or more armor
>>572974601What's *CLANG* wrong *CLANG* with *CLANG* Smith?
>>572961468>>572961653>>572961754>constantly dodge roll and zip around the map>can heal for millions of life worth of healing with flasks>can have upwards of 8 million life depending on mods>can have essence and azmeri spirit mods that make them even more fucking obnoxious>infect your rituals and show up again and again 5+ times per mapwhoever worked on rogue exiles for 0.50 seriously should get ball cancer, I have no idea how anyone thought this was acceptable for mobs that basically can't drop anything good
>>572974563This guy was strong and boring, to weak and boring, to mid and slightly interesting. Ascendancy options in 1 are more like granting you superior scaling vectors than being insane gimmick pieces ala 2, which is fine in the sort of game where archetypes are usually best off using a specific ascendancy already. Maybe it'll be that way in 2 also when the rest of the ascendancies come out and more archetype support releases. Ignite is in a pitiful state at the moment for instance.
>>572967754>implementing trade always leads to just farming money in the most efficient way instead of things you actually needeven tarkov (the extraction shooter) has the same problemalmost as if... trading is gay
>>572972828Unless they also port wasd and the gem system Poop1 will remain unplayable.
>>572974713>Your companion skill takes up your companion slot (GGG should have to sacrifice a lead designer for this sin alone)>Fire spell on hit is the worst trigger in the game and fire spells themselves suck>Limited to a W H I T E body armor to benefit from the only good features the ascendancy has (chaos armor, max res, damage taken as)Smith is pretty much only good for SSF until you find a good chest to swap into, which GGG has repeatedly stated that they do not like having early/lategame ascendancy splits the way they do now. Also maces suck and you're hamstringing yourself using anything but maces for Smith.
>>572974929This. Boomer ass unc game.
>>572971850Ok then give me the build i asked for.
>>572974794Ignite is shit because GGG are retards and tried to reinvent the wheel with it.Same with Poison and Bleed.>hurr durr dot 2 compleecatuhd 4 new peepol so we maek dem shit xD
>>572974601Yeah, the rest of Gemling needs several layers of spit-shine.Smith isn't even conceptually bad, he's just a shitty 1-trick pony with bad numerical values and a BAD TREE AREA. When we finally have Axes (assuming they don't vision them to death), Warrior and Marauder are going to be a lot better.>Fire Spell on Hit is conceptually cool>There's no fire spells you wanna cast with it>Coal Stoker and Forged in Flame are a staple defensive that falls shy in PoE2 cause you don't really need all that much Fire res, Phys (and sometimes Chaos) are the real problems>Temper Weapon is really fucking cool, but is hilariously shit in PoE2, which has no room for sitting there smacking an anvil to prebuff your attacks>Manifest weapon is fairly cool, but just isn't good (taking up a companion slot despite being FREE is wild, they learned that was bad design for Spirit Walker's FREE bear)>Every other node is Smith's Masterwork, deletes your body armor, and requires further investment to make it good againI really like all the concepts here, but the numbers and implementation makes me cry.
>>572975079https://pobb.in/J7Zamuk9QtI7
>>572975397Everything being based on hit damage and magnitude is pretty retarded but>Poison is okay given the lower life pools in the gameBleed sucks for no reason though, granted. Poison just got hit for crimes made by Pconc again.
>>572974793If they don't allow us to unspec atlas nodes in the future, I'm totally ignoring all rogue exile nodes
>>572974131hes hinted it
>body blocked in a closet by an invincible expedition mob
>>572975467>Axes will be thrown or flurry skills and focused on bleedAnon I... it's getting visioned. I like smith conceptually as well but on top of being undertuned and likely in a shit archetype and area, but arguably the biggest crime is that it's just kind of boring. The free trigger would be cool (if firespells didn't suck) but other than there's no flashy or transformative mechanics like the rest of the ascendancies.
I hate Aurelius so much is unreal. That's all.
>click on ice shot once>5 projectiles fly in every direction>each arrow forks into another 2 >these arrows 6 chain times each doing 60% damage per chain>herald of ice goes off>herald of thunder goes off>herald of thunder proccs eonyr's thunder corpse explosion>3-4 screens in every direction are deadk. now give me something like that but for melee
>>572976828If you're still getting killed by le rocky priest man you are certified retarded.
>>572976828the fvck i ever do to v nigga
>>572977009>>572976828My man Aurelius did nothing wrong, except not kill the Jews.
>>572976970I dodge all his gimmick attacks to then roll into a mine planted outside of my field of view or one shot by a desync lighting bolt.Also, he occasionally teleport outside of the arena and bricks the map
>>572976932>i want a melee skill that clears multiple screens with one click.>ok, but that doesn't count because it isn't true melee!this has been a thing for over 10 years btw.
What causes this?
>>572977429>>572976970My problem is I kill him too fast and then the cringe arena reduction move he does one shots me after he dies and drops the loot
>>572976970>Another meaningful fight that punishes you the longer it goes on
>>572977539my point is there arent. there is nothing similiar like that for melee and I dont think there ever will be. they want melee to be slow and "strong" whatever that means in their head.
>>572977457you should always have a blink gem slotted or in your inventory for the odd time you get stuck.
>>572977620You go to the safe spot, it's literally a circle. This is why zhp glass cannon builds are bad, they rob of you of valuable boss knowledge.
>>572977457Deserved for being a bowsissy
>>572977103retard
>>572977768isn't whirling assault meta this league?
>>572977608causes what
>>572977819I'm surprised to hear he has mechanics honestly. I always kill him before he finishes talking, hits the HP stopper, drops the two pillars and I kill him.All this shit while I'm standing behind him all this time.
>>572977819I can't see the circle because he's dead.
>>572978658You go to the circle anyway, you should know where it is even if it's """invisible""". GGG is never backing down from post-death attacks so you better learn the gimmick properly or stop crying.
>>572978795I will neither learn the gimmick nor stop crying anon, I am a free mazed rat.
shouldnt the game be getting more optimized and refined closer to releaseseems like performance has gotten worse every league
>>572975504Objective failed.
>>572979306lol
>>572974706armour is bad without extremely high investment, get more ES to survive one-shots and evasion to evade small hitsyou want to max out resistances ASAPmost uniques don't give a lot of resists, but you can probably get a goldrim for cheap and slot sockets to easily fill out the restif you go to poe.ninja and login you can take a snapshot of your character and post the link here so we can see what you're actually using
1 or 4?
>>5729800253
>>572976932I crashed an instance from too many projectiles testing brutus lead sprinkler tactician
>>572980025>1 or 4lmao
>>572979629whatssofunny
if there isn't a templar ascendancy node with "you are your own ally" so you can use sceptres offensively Im going to be FUCKING PISSED
>come back from vacation, haven't played for a week>getting crashes every 15 minutes with deadlock detectedwhat the fuck did they do?
>>572979996retard
>>572981772They cooked
>>572982569lol
So genuine question which build is good with fork?I didnt play spellcasters since 0.1
>>572982772Any spell build because it's a bloated 9 level wand, mana stack, etc.
still need to do mirage challenges
>>572983349for what reason? what purpose?
>>572984380it's more fun than poe2
>>572980025The only thing you want from Atziri is Atziri's Communion (420 div)Dropped 2 today, Jado might have helpedLineage are not considered Unique, still it's an Atziri only drop so there's a non-zero chance the intern who programmed this node fucked something up so I went with 4.
>>572984979>the intern who programmed this nodehis name? claude
>>572984704[claims disputed]
>>572985124if poe2 was fun then I'd be playing itcheckmate, theist.
>>572985470if poe1 was fun you would have finished the mirage challenges 4 months ago
>>572985556I was busy
>>572984380its a nice free mtx
>>572985761busy having fun NOT playing poop1
>>572984979it's so fucking gay how scarce these gems are that you can essentially never hope to get them unless you are some fucking sperg
>>572987007still better than poe2 thoughbeit
>>572968803Suppose anon could probably at least minor-ly inconvenience him by reporting him.
>>572987403hmmmm gonna say nopepoo1 existed only as a "not diablo 3" and people only played it to spite blizzard
>>572987612trvke
>>572987164the others are cancer sure, but the atziri one is okay since you can keep fighting her without too much hasslefind a city, put 4 random temple tablets and run the maps > 60 crystal = 10 temple = 5 Atziri killNow compare that to finding then pathing to a sacred reservoir, unlocking it then running it.
>>572987612you're entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong.
Do you guys use Doryani or Jado for travel nodes? I’m trying to decide between Jado’s 5% chance to reveal an anomaly map and Doryani’s 20% terraforming reveal chance, plus the 10% chance to skip an adjacent map
>>572988082reddit reply
When buying a weapon, is the DPS estimation accurate? Does it take into account the player's build?
>>572988749>Does it take into account the player's build?No, it's purely based on the stats of the weapon.
>>572988749of course not, it's simply the flat dmg x attack speeddoesn't even take into account the crit chance
POOP
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>>572987859How much is Atziri's drop rate for the gem? Still 2%? Nearly impossible to get SSF tbqh without being autistic about it but yeah, it's not so bad.
>>572988749>play shield wall on triggers>tooltip shows 20kdps>shit out 3 mil nukes per wall on bossesno, not in the slightest.
>>572989468T R V K E
>>572989468>items have different effects on CN servers Is this real?
>ritual>monkey spawns mid swing and oneshots me 3 frames later >gigajuice chain ruined thx jonathan
>>572989770>play glass cannon fubcel build>get gaped
>>572989770t*bbed
>>572989832I wanna see you facetank a t16 200% deli 70% effectiveness money bonk, you fucking nigger
>>572989983done what now bitch
>>572990117post a clip or suck my dick
>>572989983this guy can do it >>572974024
>>572990176got your clip right here bitch
>>572990430that's a magazine.Clips are what civvies wear in their hair
thankfully palword 1.0 will hold us over until PoE1 league
>~38 divmaybe wisps aren't so bad after allthis is the best single drop I've had this league lolthink I should sell it as is or try throwing a div at it and hope for a better roll? at 18 sec it's like 42 div but it's ~50 if it hits 20
>>572992165do it or no balls. Or use it.
>>572992034until the grim dawn expansion*
3.29 name reveal on the 10thLivestream on the 17thRelease on the 24thLogin.
>>572992681low effort filler leaguesub 150k on launch eos
>>572993007cope.
>>572993219
>>572886902you're still 20 div discount anon
>>572993701>no one wants to play a shit poe2 mechanicmore news at 11
>>572989479good thing the game has trading
>>572993007they have dedicated dev teams now bro
is poe2's concurrent user chart broken?been stuck at day 32 for a whileDid jonathan pay them off to hide the massive drop once the twitch campaigns ended?
>>572994243their first showing was aggressively mid
>>572994058>tota>poe2 mechanicthe cope is off the charts
>>5729942432 devs on poo1 and 3 devs on poo2
Is it over?
>>572994058nobody wanted to play previous phrecia either, nobody wanted to play mirage either (worst retention in a long time)dead game
What's stopping me from just running triple irradiated tablet maps and ignore every other mechanic when tablets are the best loot?
They're never going to kill sanctum or ultimatum are they
Why didn't they make refined breach rings even rarer?
>>572992390I'm not an ES buildit rolled 15 and I sold it for 37divfound this on the next map tho (and another exp encounter for 3 greater chaos
How's Varashta this late into the league?I remember everyone saying it's OP as fuck and immortal etc. etc., and I've gotten bored of my league starter. Is it worth it to invest into it? There is barely anyone playing it compared to Twisters or Martial Artist, especially on HC and SSF.
>join trooncord for build >ctrl-f key terms for question I have, multiple people have asked question, no answer >ask question >ignored>everyone is talking about what the best roll for mageblood is in a channel for build support>reply to self saying someone answer me >get snide answer about it being in written guide>it isn't >say it isn't >ignores me >reply to him and and tell him it isn't >get kicked>go to le most ebil website on the internet 4chan >ask question about build >get answered in 2 minutes with alternative suggestions for supports setup so why do people join these again?
Is there any counter play to the reflect chill rune in expedition?
tranny game
>>572988393Doryani for chance to skip and +1 revive just in case, because i'm sprinting towards boss aggresively
why does it feel like barely anyone playing the game , but it has still many people playing on steamcharts? What percentage of players are non-west?
>>572995628whyare youtypinglikethis?learn tobetterstructure yourthoughtsyoufucking dimwit
does poe2 have an equivalent to the hall of grandmasters yet?
>>572995628Navira's fracturing is fun as fuck. You press one button and it clears 3 screens. Needs rakiata's flow though
>>572996153Before the wisp changes, Doryani was a slam dunk with the chance to terraform into forests and and grass. Now with wisp farming more or less dead, I'm considering Jado. 5% is giga low but even one proc of a jade isles or Azmadi map seems worth it
>quarter of all characters using CImuch balance>>572996357What the fuck is your problem, dumb fucking nigger faggot retarded jeet tub drinking third world brownoid?
>>572994692There isn't unless you're going for a chase drop, your build struggles to clear trash mobs fast enough, or you are strong enough to spam Expedition
The infinite atlas is shit and PoE2 will never be good because of it.This is the alpha and omega trvke.
>>572996724melty
in poe2 am I not supposed ot be full clearing every map?
>>572995878retard
>>572997045define full clearing
>>572997474like killing all the monsters on the map
>>572997045
>>572997045define map
>>572997503only on cleansed maps methinks. Otherwise just finish the content checklist
>>572995878>facebook for mind-broken woke-raped zoomersthere's your problem
>>572996724>make an incredibly annoying element that even with capped resistance to it, it's still very strong, boxes with chaos orbs on them are pretty much ignore if you're even remotely cramped>also make it so it's kinda annoying just getting resistances capped in SSF let alone Chaos at the same timeNot really a surprise people go CI. It's just easier to build with. I don't need to worry about Chaos Res. Life means literally nothing when Energy Shield is as busted as it is.
>>572995878and then everyone clapped
>don't want to be bear>bear gets skills to feel more like old school mace skills than actual maceDid one of the developers watch his mother get their head bashed in with a hammer or something?
>>572996287Bots, the league has been dead for a few weeks.
is it just me or are grand expeditions way more rewarding than everything else? i wish i hadn't done so many abysses
>>572997045Not really.You clear as much as you need to, to get to the next area. It's about being as optimal as possible. Why clear a map 100% when in that same time, you can semi-clear three other maps and get twice as many mobs killed by only targeting the most densest packs of enemies.
>>572996287Jonathan uses the EU server hardware to run bots for his RMT site side hustle
>>572998153Cope poo1jeet
>>572998209Triple Breach is good if you don't have a really good build. I was making around 20 div an hour and every now and again something would drop that'd give me 100+ div. Managed to buy a mageblood in only a few days.But Grand Expeditions are better if you have a really good build.
>>572998332>poo1jeetyou sound extra raped by using the lingo of your oppressors.
>>572995893
>>572998415What makes triple breach good? Also, how do people typically juice grand expeditions?
>>572998209
>>572994752They should, they are garbage intrinsically bad mechanics>Ultimatum without Vaal glovesWhat's the point?>SanctumTemu Heist for people who are too dumb for Heist
>>572999127PoO2 is garbage intrinsically bad game
>>572997921why can a nigga scale 90k of energy shield on an actual buildbut life scales only up to 18k and that's on a meme build
>>573000042trust zacciehe knows how to fix it
>>573000205i've seen enough nerf warrior
>>572999127Ultimatum is kino. Sanctum can eat a dick though.
>>573000347both of them suck
tutel>>573000519>>573000519>>573000519
>>572968570Support gem specifically states attacks you use yourself, proxy clones != you.
>>572996724>>572997921CI's balancing is hilariously retarded compared to every other keystone. You look at them (except for the lucky deflect) and it's like>Decent buff>Balls breaking downsideExcept for CI which is unchanged from PoE1 where it's still one of the superior keystones. Meme-tier balancing, Zealot's Oath got changed to excess life regen + ES does not recharge (retard-tier balancing), Divine Shield got gaped, Avatar of Fire got gaped by conversion math, Vaal Pact got crippled, Resonance is hardly a keystone and more of a modifier, etc. Blackflame doesn't even have a downside, it just does the effect. Who thought that was a good idea?
