4th of July Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer roleplaying games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect, Might and Magic, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Solasta, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, Ultima, Underrail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.pngPrevious: >>572808994>Thread QuestionJeanette or Therese?
When is Dark Heresy release ffs
>>572928354>TQBoth at the same time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MmfSi10gYk
>>572928354When I was a young, impressionable boy, Therese.Now that I'm older, I like Jeanette because she's a slut.
Aurora is such a girly name.
>>572928793It literally is a girl's name
Free yourself from alpha strikes
>>572928793>>572928865and she's also a cutie
>>572929236I saw her live once years ago, she's really good.
>durr how do ear muffs workShould I let her keep these? Or use them myself.
>>572929838Ear Muffs is needed if you want an officer to actually be able to use Bring it Down or Finest hour in the first round iirc.
I need disco stink!!!!!!!!!!
>>572929871>racism out of nowhere
>finally playing the type of character who’d use marzipan>won’t have any use for him in combat because I stole all his assassin shit
>>572930691He's useless unless you're rping as a retarded foidwhore
>>572930417>muh racismyou didn't seem to mind racism in this general when it was against indians and russians
>>572930090Thanks for the tip
>>572928354I caught onto her stick pretty early on the fact that neither was present at the same time, 'child of janus' (two heads one body), they shared one bed, one bath pretty obviousalso Malkavian and Therese was way too 'normal' I think I accidentally sided with Jeanette
I can understand the Iconoclast position of being more pragmatic and being less strict with the Imperium dogma's, but there is literally no reason why you would keep around Idira, Yrlet or Marzifag regardless of your alignment.All 3 put everyone else and your entire crew in danger or can't be trusted at all.I hope there's a much better reason to actually have xeno allies that make sense.
>>572930871who created this site again? oh right, an american. who created the internet again? oh right, americans. who created the computer or phone you use to shitpost? oh right, americans. sit the fuck down
>>572930826Why would I not keep the funny elf I btfo’d locked in a closet for my entertainment
>>572930826>>572930691marazhai should have been an executioner>I respecced him into bladedancer
>>572931179amerimutt delusionsyou didn't invent shit fatty everything you own comes from chyna
Imagine all the thousands of cocks Arue sucked before she met you bros...
>>572931162Idira literally has premonition powers. Only a retard wouldnt keep her around.>but muh dead crewman, muh warp threatdont use warp travel either then.Yrilet is your way into having good relations with Eldar. Janus proves having Eldar as your gardeners + early warning system against drukeks is the best thing that can happen to a RT dynasty.Keeping Marz as anything but a pet doesnt make sense i agree.
>>572931331Assassin direct damage stuff is still really good There’s just only one notes on weaknesses
>>572931583Stop thinking about cocks faggot.
>>572931631Idira’s funny because if you give her a chance she does legitimately instantly clean up her act and become completely devoted to you
>>572931728no
I want DH to have a mechanic where you have to arrest or snitch on some of your companions to keep your Inquisitior status so you can actually protect 1 or 2 of them.
>>572931631Her premonition clearly worked out so well for the previous RT lol. I'd rather not have a ticking time bomb with an unsanctioned psyker who is more dangerous than helpful and is not even remotely comparable to how necessary warp travel is.Keeping Yrilet after what happens in Act 3 is really retarded but before that makes sense.
>>572932542>I'd rather not have a ticking time bombThis is a complete larp>who is more dangerous than helpfulWhat
>>572932770Every time I have played with Idira after Act I or whenever I can replace her with someone else has always resulted her killing herself or even getting the whole party killed. Gameplay wise, she's literally been worse than having no one so I almost never bother with her psychic powers.I kill her every single playthrough as a result.
>>572932542She saves your life the moment you meet wtf are you talking about. If she actually does that even 1 more time its is absolutely worth sacrificing your crew over.
is tyranny good?
>Synchronized menstrual cycles tearing apart the ship's plumbingEMPEROR PRESERVE ME
A powerful psyker actually having some risk associated with her power just makes the combat more funI don’t understand the seething
>>572933883Yeah I like it too. People who bitch are just bad at the game probably, or larping.
>>572933227the best
>>572933883Early game risk/reward of having her in combat is not worth it tbf. Owlcat needs to buff her early game damage.
>Trazyn, where's my warrant?????>*trazyn with a suspiciously warrant of trade shaped stomach* : hmmmm don't know
>>572933883>>572934035>How is she more dangerous than helpful?>Lol also, the game is more fun because she adds risk.Literally proving my point for why she gets killed past act 1 every single playthrough, there's no way she would be kept at all lore wise.
>>572933883prologue bloodletterI don't like reloading combat
>>572933380Holy kek
you ever feel like 40k is too grimderp and not grimdark enough
I'm put off by 40k because of its fans. They're not as bad as tranime people, but they're close.
>30 hours into rogue trader>hmmm What if I made this other build insteadguysmy restartitis is flaring up again
>>572930826Why would you keep this deranged elf equivalent to a pitbull dog, nobody does this surely.Meanwhile foids be like:>This is Princess, my Drukhari. Sorry about your children, he wasn't properly socialised. Yeah he's a rescue. We're working on that behaviour too.
>>572933883Same. Psykers having non-negligible risk is a fundamental part of the setting. Don't like it? Then bench her.
What class should I play in>pathfinder kingmaker>wrath of the righteous>rogue trader>baldurs gate 1>baldurs gate 2>baldurs gate 3>pillars of eternity>pillars of eternity 2>neverwinter nights>neverwinter nights 2>neverwinter nights mask of the betrayer>kotor>kotor 2>solasta>shadowrun
>>572935637Lesbian with short blonde hair.
>>572928354Vampire the masquerade bloodlines isn't acrpgit's an immersive sim like deus ex
>>572935637Shortest race possibleMonkYou're welcome
>>572935747You're wrong as VtMB pulls directly from the tabletop system design and functions like it.
>>572935637play as a slut
Holy shit Nuncius is based
>>572935637DuelistWizard(lich)Psyker RangerWild MageDruid / ClericWizardChanter faggotbigger faggottriple faggotJedi GuardianPalpatine who?gun elf
>>572935637>pathfinder kingmakermartial of your choice with a flail>wrath of the righteousmartial of your choice with a two-handed sword, taking the angel mythic>rogue tradernoble using a pistol and a power sword it's sadly pretty shite, but that's the RT on the cover>baldur's gate 1+2fighter/mage>baldur's gate 3draconic sorcerer for AoE or a Cleric if you don't think you'll struggle with AoE>Pillars of Eternity 1+2(orlan) cypher>Neverwinter Nights 1, 2 and Maskhaven't played these, so you'll get no ideas from me, apologies>Kotor 1+2just swing that saber and get the girl(s) never played these either>Solastamake the basic Cleric + Rogue + Wizard + Fighter team because that's what the game was made around essentially>Shadowrungo all in on the pseudo-magic they've got
>>572935747define crpg
Bringing yrillet just to use At All Costs! on her every fight!
>>572936785Console Role-Play Gaymelike final fantasy
>>572935637HumanMaleFighter
Is there any difference if I start the Pathfinder games from Kingmaker or from WOTR?
>>572931786That's why she's so lovely.
>black woman>straight hairthat's a cope
>>572931631>premonition powersLiterally irrelevant, just a bunch of cryptic visions you don't understand until you replay the game and they don't really matter anyway because you can't do nothing about them
>>572937597>they don't really matter anyway because you can't do nothing about themUntrueShe warns you of booby trapped servoskull on the Heartless, giving you the opportunity to destroy it before it finishes its speech, when it would otherwise explode and give you a trauma
>>572937557That's an implant
>special action to bathe>No special sit on the throne in the bridgelame
reformed daemonette when?
Shan't using Idira, simple as.
>>572938248I feel kind of ridiculous running around on the bridge, when everyone else has a station to be at
>reading a bunch of bg3 fags talk about jaheira as if they know every facet of her character by simply playing bg3The funniest part is them finding out she's a romance in BG2. They're convinced that Khalid was the love of her life because Larian presented it that way yet she jumps on Bhaalspawn's dick a week after seeing her husband's mutilated corpse in BG2.
>>572938661>yet she jumps on Bhaalspawn's dick a week after seeing her husband's mutilated corpse in BG2Just like Larianfags, you didn't play BG2 and are just larping
I wish melta weapons weren't so fucking ass in RT.
>>572938661>why is my game canon from 26 years ago no longer canondouble digit IQ post
How many levels should I have before doing rt dlc? I can't consistently pass skill checks.
>>572938921The irony is bg3 fags like you will also cry like fucking faggots when bg4 ruins the bg3 cast unaware of how hypocritical they are. They're already doing it.
>>572938661Not only she does not jump on any dick a week after, but we really don't know if Jaheira romance is canon in bg3It's clearly not Viconia, I assume it's Aerie since she was intentionally not included?
Shadowheart has vagina hairs.
>>572939156None of them are canon, Charname fucked off to Candlekeep for some years then back to Baldur's Gate where he became archduke and then died, blatantly contradicting the romance ending with Aerie
>>572937372WOTR has QoL and general improvements that might make Kingmaker seem even more rough than it already isI'd recommend starting with Kingmaker, but there's honestly no need to finish it if you end up not liking it, since they're not connected at all
>>572939505Is Kingmaker's story and companions make the game worth playing? WotR has a really great power fantasy story, does Kingmaker make you feel like you are an actual head of state?
>>572940353Yes, as the name implies, it's a game about your rise to become king.You start out as a baron as the reward for beating the current ruler of those lands in act 1
>>572940353I don't really like most of the companions, but I know that some do really like themThe set-up for the story is good, and it's quite varied. How much you'll like the story is going to be up to you, but imo it was goodWorst part of being a head of state is kingdom management, mostly because it's made to be as awful as possible
>>572940723>mostly because it's made to be as awful as possible>boosting the economy stat doesn't actually improve your income any more than other stats>random story characters you may kill or dismiss without knowing they are advisors are locked forever, some positions you will have no advisor at all>timed fucking events all the time>two weeks for some events so the other events automatically fail meanwhileGenuinely why the fuck did they design it like this
>>572937557>38,000 of evolutionAnd plenty of genetic contribution from naturally straigh-haired men from over generations, I'd suppose
>>572940445>>572940723Thanks. I'm gonna buy it, 80% discount for whole package is pretty good.
>>572940889Thankfully they learned a lot from Kingmaker and either dropped or lessened most if not all of the awful parts of kingdom management
>>572928354stop making threads
I only kept Yrliet in one playthrough to see how her story would play out. It was pretty unsatisfying and both her and the other elves you meet are massive fucking assholes who act like they're better than you despite being incompetent retards. So now I just kill them all.
>>572937557the slavic artist didn't know any better
>>572928354keep making threads
What's the better defensive option in RT, armor or dodge?
>>572941297yeah, that's how they are in 40k
Would your waifu enjoy the egg mcmuffin, assuming you were able to somehow magically teleport the mcdonalds breakfast menu into her universe? Assume it was prepared properly and warm.
>>572941423It's easier to stack armor than it is dodge. But the true way to "tank" in RT is to abuse temp hp.
>>572940889>>572941057Fuck you, it was amazing. Actual choice and consequence in game, huge replayability, forced you to think of actual strategy and plan your routes.Instead they dumbed it down because of casuals like you. Rogue Trader now doesn't even feel like you are in charge of anythingfuck you, fuck you your fucking plebs
>>572941683>forced you to think of actual strategyThe actual strategy of income not being tied to the economy statThanks Owlcat for this masterwork in strategy gamingFuck off, please. >muh casualsI play strategy games of all kinds, I have thousands of hours in them, I play games that are literally just excel spreadsheets.No, the issue is not that kingmaker was too deep, it was just dogshit.
>>572941683I'm glad minigame enjoyers are finally getting BTFO in Dark Heresy
>>572941683>forced you to think of actual strategy and plan your routesWhat are you on about?
>>572941297Yeah it seems space elves in 40k are just there to get killed. Thats why i prefer fantasy at least when a high elf insults or threatens you, you know he can actually back it up.
Then what's a crpg with a good minigame?
>>572941804It was deep which is why it filtered you lot so fucking hard>>572941846Projects and events are tied to actual ingame days, weeks, months and so. Time passes all the time as you travel and rule. You need to develop your kingdom and travel in a smart way, to not waste time and be able to go back to your capital and then decide where to spend time on projects and ruling in it.Absolute fucking kino>>572941815faggot
Yes I hateKingdom managementCrusade managementShip battles and colony management
>>572941683RT's dystopian colony projects are way more fun to read than Kingmaker's press 1 to engooden the kingdom
>>572942038
>>572941947I like the space battles in RT. Just wish your ship was more customizable. I WOULD have liked the crusade battles in Wrath but the unit balance is so nonsensical where the general advice for this mode is to stack an early game unit (snipers) and use any mage general to nuke shit. The supposed high tier units like dragons and angels are ass.
>>572942001>It was deep which is why it filtered youOne day you will have to accept that people can have genuine gripes against a system without being "filtered"
>>572941947Not a crpg but i liked the actual dispatching minigame in Dispatch.
>>572935637>Aldori Swordlord>Sorcerer>Officer>Fighter>Fighter->Mage dual classI don't know about the rest
>>572941652Probably yes, but she would be deeply annoying about it. Minthara would evaluate it like a field ration for officers: warm, compact, savory, portable, protein-heavy, and structurally efficient. The egg would help. It is recognizable, practical, and not overly sweet. The Canadian bacon gives it a salted, cured-meat quality that fits a martial, travel-ready meal. The English muffin is plain enough not to offend her. The cheese is the risky part. She might initially view it as suspicious surface alchemy, then grudgingly accept that it improves the whole thing.She would probably dislike the branding, the wrapper, the cheerfulness of McDonald’s, and any implication that breakfast should be “fun.” But if it arrived warm and properly made, she would finish it.I think her actual verdict would be:Egg McMuffin: 7.5/10Hash brown: 9/10 if crisp, 3/10 if soggyCoffee: acceptable only blackMcGriddle: absolutely despisedSausage McMuffin with Egg: possibly preferred over the originalThe key point is that Minthara would enjoy it, but she would refuse to admit she enjoyed it. She would call it “adequate,” ask who commands this “McDonald’s,” and then quietly order another.
>>572942186>officerYou get three officers with unique abilities that make them better officers than you'll ever be. Don't get me wrong I understand the appeal of it and it fits a RT but for a first run I'd choose something more combat oriented.
>>572942263thanks chatgpt
>>572942263thanks gemini
>>572942263This post was made with chatgpt
dogmatards will look at this and say>ah, fellow brothers in the faith :D
>>572938352Was she trying to mimic you? Did she think running around the bridge is how you operate human machinery?
>>572942382Iconocucks literally witness one miracle after another and say>ummm imperium bad, actually
>>572942295You spec Cassia for pure eye beam nuking instead of officer powers, and tell Jae to fuck off.Who's the third?
>>572942509Iconoclasts do not hate the imperium nor do they reject the emperor, they simply challenge the narrow dogma of the current imperium
>>572939282but that's a good thingwhat kind of nonce wants a completely hairless pussy?nice well trimmed bush is what I want, it's very dignified and ladylike
>>572942562Eogunn. Actually there's a fourth with Uralon and he's actually good now after the massive buffs they gave him.
>100% chance to hit>misseswhat the fuck is this shit rogue traderthere wasn't even a "dodged" thing popping upfucking yrillet
>>572942263
>>572941652Arueshalae has eaten a lot worse
>>572942869Doesnt RT work with nat20 rules?
>>572942562>>572942840>>572942295You say that but a party of 3 officers is extremely powerful. No one uses Jay anyway
>>572942727>>572942917Can't believe a bear's hairy cock entered this
>>572942263why are you so fat
>>572943017If it does, it should never show "100%" it should always show "95%" or "99%" max.It was probably some targetting bug since it also uses projectile trails somehow but it still pisses me off
>>572942869I recall that there can't be 100% shot in RT. Hit chance is capped at 95% so there is always a chance to miss. Any other hit ratio above 95% is turned into crit hit chance, but you have to hit for that
Lord Captain, the machine spirits are not obeying the commands of the tech priests!!! The Ship is… collapsing!!!>[Tech Use](passed) ohhh um let me look at it…>[You type the command key into the user portal and are met with a Success screen. The console awaits your command.]*everybody clapping* The God Emperor smiles upon us today!!! ALL HAIL THE LORD CAPTAIN!!!
With the augments and new gear you can build a pretty versatile voidborn officer.
For the Emperor PURGE PURGE PURGE XD
>>572941652No.
Belief in the Emperor and belief in Imperial Dogma are two separate things.
warhammer lore just sounds awful compared to pathfinder, owlkek really downgraded
sex with evil women
>>572943636they had to make do with what GW gave them, hardly their fault
>>572942509>witness one miracle after anotherthe God-Emperor be like>"nooooo don't worship me I'm not a god of death!!!!!!!!">*miraculously lets you walk through fire*>*miraculously cures your ailments if you pray at his giant blood statue*>*miraculously lets you overpower chaos corruption*>*miraculously does literally everything for the sisters of battle*seriously, can a lorefag explain to me what the Emperor's fucking problem is?
>>572942383>int 30 As the Farseers used to say, she doesn't have all her runes in the same pouch.
>>572939282she's in her 50s
>>57294363640slop is more popular
>>572943780half-elf 50s are a human foid's 20s
>>572943717Because Big E is a retard. Majority of the problems that humanity in 40k faces is are the direct result of his shenanigans.
>>572943717The Emperor is a literal corpse stuck on a throne, he can't do nothing about it, people believing that he's a god is the sole reason why the Imperium is still standing and he knows it. Back then he could abolish his worship, but not anymore
Let's be real the Pathfinder gods are as equally retarded.
>>572943636Pathfinder lore is comically generic and also terribleI'd take warhammer any time
I like Iomedae because she's a lesbian
Prayer and genuine belief can turn into warp magic in 40k. Dogmatics believe warp miracles happen because the literal emperor literally heard their prayer and cared enough personally to intervene, iconoclasts recognize that belief = warp magic and can be used to defend against chaos. Heretics believe the emperor is dead therefore the only true path is submission to warp demons
>>572943874I can set him free
>>572944043Didn't she fuck a dragon and have a kid with him?
>>572943717Emperor was a hardcore atheist who thought:>let's get rid of ALL GODS so chaos won't reign anymore bad move, chaos doesn't work like that, they work with emotions now he's the one getting worshipped like a god, because it is impossible to get rid of all gods>interesting enough the aeldari have still two of their old gods why doesn't kegorach the last (free) remaining god just take over the rest of the portoflios?
>>572941947I liked the void ship combat and colony management in Rogue TraderI actually wanted more of both
>>572929236I hate makeup
Why is magnarailblast so fucking powerfulwho thought this was ok
>>572944043There's three other good-aligned gods who are at least occasional lesbians, but Iomedae is not.
>>572944014It actually isn't, except to people who only engage with it at a surface level. Warhammer feels like a 50,000 word fanfic.
>>572944564All his shit is stupidly powerful.
FUCK GODS
>>572945020This, in a sexual way, but also in a metaphysical way
Iomedae is both a church girl and a tomboy, so there's basically zero chance she shaves it. For that reason, she's out.
>>572942509>>572943717>Atheists point to 40k at the example of religious people being delusional fanatics that are superstitious and xenophilic bigots>The Imperium of Man are completely vindicated because everyone else is worse than them despite being made out to be a strawman and caricature. There needs to be a term of the """media literate""" types that somehow undercut their very own arguments in their own media.
why did I just learn that owlcat posted a gif of regina twerking on their twitter
>>572945241xenophobic*Goddamn I am tired.
I SERVE THE RUINOUS POWERS
>>572944083>kill... me...how do you respond, dogmachud?
Tried it again yesterday and couldn't get past character creation, just a tangled mess of a game. I really hope someone other than Larian enters the high production value CRPG space, maybe Obsidian if they survive the jeeta's purge.
>>572945469yeah that one
We already did Icewind Dale, Baldurs gate, and divinity original sins, any other great co op games in the genre? Rogue Trader was incredibly scuffed, feels like the co op was scrambled in 5 min just because BG3 had it
>>572945469whomst?
>572945484Me when I make some prime bait
>>572945469They know their audience at least
>>572945469>blushingYou know what this means right?
>>572945646no
>>572945453I would give him what he wants. but won't he explode and kill earth
>>572945626>>572945469Would they really use a character that's popular already as ntr bait...
>>572945484I was asking for opinions in the summer sale threads about Rogue Trader vs. DoS2 and one guy said Owlcat basically values quantity over quality. Just piles and piles of okay "things" to do instead of anything really exciting or well done.
>>572945874>Owlcat basically values quantity over qualityObviously I haven't played much of Rogue Trader because it's just too sloppy out of the gate, but that's very true based on WOTR. Constant nonsense encounters, constant novels of not very good text, random encounters, save scum design, etc. Quantity over quality is the best way to say it. DOS2 is much, much better.
>people didn't bite the bait so now he's replying to himselflol
>>572946378larian mindbroke him
You'll notice they always avoid replying to whoever is supposedly replying to themselves, to avoid the rigmarole where they post a screenshot showing they aren't replying to themselves, and then the accusing party has to scamper away and mutter "y-you used the console" to themselves. If they would just enable poster IDs on every board it would improve quality immediately, and there's no reason they haven't other than they actively want the site to be as faggy as possible.
>>572946763Take your meds
>>572946171It kind reminds me of my fanfiction days.You'll come across stories that follow all the rules, have good length, and are about characters/settings you're into but for one reason or the other the words just dont pop off the page. Then you'll also find stories that are full of grammar mistakes but are fucking exhilarating to read.
>>572945874I wish DOS2 didn't bore me every time I play it. I don't even know why it does.
>>572946849Lots of writing is fine if it's good. But Owlcat doesn't write anywhere near well enough to justify the volume.
>>572947034One thing I'll say is watching videos of DOS2 already made me dislike the narrator.I really hope Divnity's narrator is a female voice and not a m*le one. Although given how much more popular Larian is now post BG3, even if it's a m*le one there will probably be mods to replace it.
>>572947223dos1 has a female narrator. it was okay, but too.. gamey
>>572945825It means that she's not a slut, if she was she wouldn't be embarrassed
>>572947215Writing isn't always about prose. Owlcat's games are way too bloated and wordy, but at the same time the plot has a semblance of structure I don't find in Larian's games.
>>572947034For me it's dogshit larian writing
>>572947223waifufags just hate men
>>572945626not crpg you shill faggot
>>572947745YesWhen I finally pull the trigger on DOS2 (and finish the games I'm currently playing), you will probably see me here asking which m*le party member is the most tolerable to bring.
which ALL AMERICAN crpg made by TRUE PATRIOTS are we playing tonight to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the united states of AMERICA?
>>572948337bg2>canadiansEhhhhhhhh close enough
>>572948337Christmas in Seattle, 2024.
>>572948790i heard youre stuck playing some other dude in a flashback for at least 1/3 of the gameis it true
>>572948790nice try tcr shill but you are british
>>572948887There are (now optional) flashback sequences, but you'd have to be double retarded to make them take up 1/3 of the game. They're interesting bits of storytelling for people capable of enjoying that, though I'm sure Madden types really hate them.
>>572948337the real bloodlines is american
>>572949167Sex with the nosferatu girlKisses on her rotting flesh
>>572949084why are you instantly defensive over an universally panned game
>>572949167>BrujahTomboy, probably hairy, but okay. 5/10>GangrelBasically just a hairier Brujah, a little more country so more likely to be a horse girl. Lower body count but at the cost of being annoying. 4/10>MalkCrazy, but all women are. Too much makeup, but probably kind of a whore. 8/10>NosBasically a black woman, 0/10>ToreadorBeautiful, lithe, but stuck up and whiny. 9/10>TremereAutistic wicca girl. Definitely hairy, probably showers every 2-3 days, autistic so you're her first and she'll be overly clingy. 0/10>VentrueBasically a Toreador with more interesting things to say and a better house. 10/10
>>572949167For me? It's the Tremere.
>>572949531>Autistic wicca girl. Definitely hairy, probably showers every 2-3 days, autistic so you're her first and she'll be overly clingy>0/10Abysmal post
>>572949456I'm not, it's just an interpretation you have for being a factory default anonbot. Anonbots say something that is exaggerated, ridiculous, or plainly untrue, somebody corrects them, anonbot responds with "you're defensive!" and other nonsense. >I heard this game the memes told me to hate will shrink your penis"uh, no" >omg shill shill mcshilly shill you're not based you're a shill why u not based be based anon I'm based just be based shill stop shilling be basedIt's incessant.
>>572949950>LMAO YOU'RE A MADDEN TYPE IF YOU DONT LIKE SHITTY FLASHBACKS>W-wait, why are you exaggerating? You're such a bot
You want a Toreador but you need the Malk pussy
>>572950129Yes, if you play a story heavy game and complain about a story heavy part of the game, you would best be served by going back to Madden and Fortnite, games more suited for your archetype. That's a very different thing than pretending a five minute sequence is "1/3rd of the game", but you're unable to comprehend that nuance because you're low IQ and just sort of repeat anon words. Shazam, based, kek, based!
>>572950261Struck a nerve I see
>false statementCorrection>ah, struck a nerve I seeBased, kek, based, cope, based and so on
>>572948442nice try fucking leaf
why is he so defensive over a mediocre game.
He's not, he already explained that to you, but that obviously made you angry so you'll anonbot no-reply for a while like you usually do until I close the tab, or maybe even use your mom's cellphone to help create popular support. Based!In fact, I think it's time to post some VTMB2 screenshots and do a whole playthrough, I've been putting it off a while but it's a fairly new CRPG and the /crpgg/ generals could really use some new blood, right? Get it, blood? Based.
>whats going on everybody...mortem here...vs>GREEEETINGS EVERYONE, HOPE ALL OF YOU ARE HAVING AN *ABSOLUTELY* FANTASTIC DAYwhich team you're on
>HeSure buddy
>>572949167Í loved playing Malkavian, everyone's like>aw, shit, I'm fucked and I have no idea what you're talking about
>>572950519Autism/low IQ. VTMB2 is low IQ garbage
>he doesn't understand simple language constructsThat's okay, most anonbots can hardly speak English to begin with. You're ahead of the game just to have a grasp on capital letters.
Grok says the flashbacks really are a third of the game.
Playing through one of the most misunderstood CRPGs of the last ten years, part 1: the launcher
>>572949531>Autistic wicca girl. Definitely hairy, probably showers every 2-3 days
Most crpgs make you do an entire new playthrough just to see any story expansions, so I really appreciate that this crpg puts them as separate adventures entirely. We'll be going through those later of course, but for now let's enjoy the main story.
Now that's consideration. CRPGs take a while to playthrough, and losing a save is pretty painful. Good looking out TCR. But I know I'm restarting the game, so let's jump right in.
>>572951060You're spot on.
They live among usThey go out at nightThey have connectionsThey feed on us
One cool thing they've added since launch as an accessibility feature is the ability to skip certain portions of the game that might have been offensive to more "urban" audiences that expect their games to be more about collecting rings and coins and less about exploring a narrative. I know I know, narrative is a core part of the CRPG experience, but we have some gamers these days that can't even spell CRPG, and they need to be accommodated too. But for this playthrough let's go with the full experience.
not a crpg
As a CRPG, VTMB2 really hits you with the choice and consequences right off the bat. The first choice is a pretty major one, whether we'll have a dick or a vagina. This will impact things like our voice, how certain characters react to us, the availability of certain blood resonance types and a lot of other stuff. For now, let's go with a female character so that we can roleplay a lesbian. I'll be making her hair blonde later.
That option is not available to new players actually.
Reminder.>Rogue Trader's next dlc is a male companion with romance.>Dark Heresy's first dlc is a male companion with romance
okkk im done finally with comorragh im keeping marazhai but locking him in a chamber during warp travel and yeahi think im going to try and save abelard's family rlly quick and then visit winterscale honestly i already explored almost everything so i think maybe im close to the end
Someone got real salty over the comment that VtMB is a crpg. VtMB2 is not a crpg. VtMB is.
>>572952561>Owlcat games*yawn*
>>572952613>I'm gonna save Abelards family>I'm going to keep Marazhai (alive)oh boy, who's gonna tell her?
>>572952613you can't romance marz if you lock him away
>>572952540Just as well, sometimes a game can be TOO accessible. We'd all be better off had there been more of an effort to gatekeep things back in the day. Afterall, I can't play Madden and skip the football, why should Tyrone Hoodball be able to skip the roleplaying here?Annnnnnnyways, the intro to the game is pretty neat, and gives a good preview of how good the voice acting is goign to be (really good). I also like that it foreshadows story events that aren't clear the first time, but you notice the second time. Based!
>>572949531>Autistic wicca girl. Definitely hairy, probably showers every 2-3 days, autistic so you're her first and she'll be overly clingy. 0/10>lists only plusses>rates it 0/10???
The opening to the game is pretty neat, and probably better paced than the original back alley shootout in the first one. I really like that you can see your body in first person, and that the game doesn't swap you around just because you tried to punch someone. It doesn't do as well with first person immersion as Cyberpunk, but its up there.
I also really like the reactive crosshair, so you the player get a hint that Phyre the character has detected something via the Inspection feat, but without it being so garish as a blue glitter sparkle all over the screen. Clever way to signal things to the player without breaking immersion, which is pretty important (to me) in a CRPG.
>>572949531>Autistic wicca girl. Definitely hairy, probably showers every 2-3 days, autistic so you're her first and she'll be overly clingy.>0/10I'm confused
>>572953195>>572953023>>572952531I'm glad you're at least describing what you are doing so it's not just random screenshots with no context.
>another 4k autistic blogposteryou would think this was the namefag
>>572953371Posting your playtrough is fine, but try to condense it a bit, otherwise you're gonna spend the entire day on the first few cutscenes.
More CRPGs should have a codex. These games usually have a lot of lore, and if you aren't familiar with the ins and outs it gets pretty overwhelming pretty quickly. Who the hell is Iomadae? Who is Lolth? Why? That said, I do sort of miss the old inventory system in the first game. Once you're about half way through a twenty hour CRPG obviously you've picked up a lot of items, and having items and quests and people and lore all jumbled together is a bit of a mess. >>572953490Once I get to the city I'll just post pictures of snow.
>>572952846It can end fine if you do Marazhai's quest right. You need the other Elf too though.
>>572953657
>>572953546not him, its the russianfag
There are some things the first game did better, but combat is undeniably better here. Some Fromsoft fags will be by to insist it's bad in some vague kind of way as they always do, but everything just feels better. People wouldn't have hated the warrens so much if it played more like this.
bloodlines 2 is cringe action "rpg" trashbut thankfully a proper vampire crpg is in the works
>>572954172This is utter kino.
>>572954172>DEvisual novel, not a crpg>DE clonevisual novel, not a crpg
Movement is also much better here. The original always felt like you were ice skating, but here you're graceful, and there's the usual modern enhancements like mantling, you can glide, sprint, and so on. Much easier and much more fun to get around the city. >>572954172I have this one wishlisted. The Hunter game as well, which is more of a Bloodlines type of thing.
>>572954396original movement was way better you FUCKING FAGGOT.
>>572954172Made me remember Vampyr. That game was cool.
>>572954585Vampyr fucking sucked. Cognitive dissonance the game.
Is today the day to shill everything but crpgs?I recommend getting xenonauts 2 while its on sale.It's what nu-XCOM should have been.
>>572954461It obviously isn't.Anyways, the first conversation gives us our Clementine will remember that markers, and you can test it pretty early to see how it changes how your friend reacts to you, how honest he is and so on. Unfortunately, just like modern gamers actually need yellow paint to signal where to go, they probably need some story equivalent to make it more obvious to them when they've changed something.
>>572954659I mean the gameplay was jank and bad, but I thought the narrative was very good. And the VA did a good job.
>>572954798It fucking is.
>>572954703im thinking about getting borderlands 3 actually
>>572954703no it's not, XCOM is actually fun unlike xenonauts it's fucking trash only unc retards unable to accept the 1990s are over like
>>572954859I found BL3 not as good as BL2 desu senpai>>572954878filtered
>>572954947eating shit filters most people
>>572954837You're being absurd.Anyways, every game has detective vision now, it's an easy way to dog walk Madden gamers to where they need to go next, but I liked the way it's implemented as a sort of auspex here. It's nice to not have to spend dots on things vampires should have by default.
>>572954859Siren in 3 is really fun.
My buddy considers the total war games a crpg but I just don't see it.
Telekinesis also ends up being pretty nifty. You sort of have it in the original since anytime you pick up an object you can't see your body and its just floating around, but it's a little more intentional here.
>>572955207You have characters with levels and equipmentand you roly-play as a warlordI can see it
The story did suffer from some rewrites, so there are things like this that are left semi-hanging by the end. It's probable that Fabien was meant to be a little more Malkavian than we see in the game now. Still, it's cool to go through the first area and see all these little hints that make more sense now.
>>572955207how so?you control a country not a character, their traits are randomly generated stat buffs and even if you try to pretend you're playing as your king/leader he'll die 50 turns into the campaign while you keep going so it's not like you have a consistent main characterby that logic civilization is way more of a crpg than total war
Her romance is good because its extremely well paced. I didn't post the brother talks because I wasn't sure if it was bullshit or not, I suspect I will find out soon enough (and then there would be a lot to discuss there either way), but they pace very well her being vulnerable with her putting up a wall and calling herself a whore to try to disgust you and push you away. A modern game would have used the bodycount as a quirky throaway to show how independent she is, but here the matter is actually taken seriously both by the characters and the writer.Obviously, her behavior is extremely toxic, only some characters could romance her, the majority could not, but its easily the most invested I've been in a crpg romance. Even if I were to not romance her, however, I would still want to help her, so it is kind of a shame all of her personality is basically locked in secret for players who either did not romance her or failed her romance in one of her various traps she sets to sabotage herself.
>>572955450
Realistically is Aerie or Viconia better at sex? Which one of them would leave claw marks on you?
I wanna smooch her.
>>572955561>he'll die 50 turns innot if you play Warhammer
>>572953657What the fuck? Is this Skyrim?
>>572955775shan't
>>572956003I'm roleplaying as a milf trapped in a much younger body so yeah, I guess so
Is Age of Wonders a crpg?
>>572955663Aerie, experienced hags don't leave claw marks lustful princesses unleashing their passion do
Stealth is much more fun here, a bit like Dishonored. You still have the crouch sneaking and assassin attack from behind, but also just more options from the better movement and verticality. Investing your XP into the Obtenebration or Quietus disciplines does a lot for you too, much more varied than just turning invisible for longer periods of time.
Anything to drop or add? Always on the lookout for crpgs that might look intriguing and whatever else.
>>572953657>>572956003Seriously, look at this shit. Fifteen years, a new game engine, and a completely different development team working under a different company, with zero overlap, and what's changed? There's now a hint of yellow in the color scheme.
>>572956375I'd say so, it has way more main character customization and party build options than many of the "crpgs" in this thread
>>572954703>xenonautssoulless shit stuck in perpetual Early Access
Weapons feel pretty good to use, although I still think using telekinesis to just steal them and fling them into their heads is more cinematic and fun. >>572956643Lists are a good way to convey information.
>>572956609>krwhat the fuck kind of monopoly money is that?if Dark Arisen is as good as the DLC for the first Dragon's Dogma, that will be worth picking up
>>572956779It's Norwegian krone, but we just call it kroner nationally. Like the Swedes and the Danes.
>>572954703I recommend getting X-Com: UFO Defence and playing the XPiratez mod
>>572957039>people threw hissy fit over snake posters for being coomers>same people think this is not pure gooner schlock
>>572956746Bro, it's been out for ages, feature complete.>b-buname one thing it's missing.
>>572957039OpenXCom is better
xenonauts is unironically a cointoss game whereas xcom is actually about risk management
>>572957238engaging gameplay that doesn't put you to sleepzero atmospher during combat or soldiers returning from missionart style that doesn't look it mugged project zomboid in a seedy alley for it
And like any other CRPG we must now pick our class. We'll go with Tremere this time. You're not quite locked out of character development options if you pick the wrong clan, but it does make things easier or harder to obtain, and changes how different characters will react to you.
>>572957897Lasombra are better.
>>572957897any reason why they cut the Malkavian option?
>>572957897
>>572958269Why did you buy the good goy edition?
Like any other CRPG you invest your XP into different skill points, here disciplines. In some ways this is much less advanced than the original, in some ways more. There's no skills for sneaking or lockpicking, it's all disciplines, but the disciplines are much more fleshed out. I would prefer something like the first, but there's still a lot of room for character expression here, and the disciplines are less same-y.
>>572958645>in some ways moreShut the fuck up, cunt.
for iconoclast the game is literally just like everybody loves you :)) and then i curtsy for my officers and they present me with a gift and are like you take such good care of us and your planets :)) lolalso yeah im not romancing marazhai he just wants to cut me and i liked it more way when he lets you pretend to dominate him and i dont want to reload the save soooo he lives in a box nowi have like 66 warp points and i visited every star system except 1 so can i make every route green or should i save them?? most routes are green already and i haven't used a yellow in a rlly long time
>>572957553You need OpenXCom anyway to run the mod, but you also need the data files from the original game.And sure, you can pirate those, but it's like a dollar on Steam.
>>572958729Each rank also gives you different appearance options, which are much more in depth than they were in the first. Different characters react negatively or positively depending on how you're dressed, and it's not a simple tier upgrade. This is one area where the sequel actually outshines the original, and probably the biggest difference. There's a lot of little changes baked in here, much better than paying Fat Larry for an extra point of soak.
>>572958759I like that your officers get benches to rest on as well.
>>572958859I played and finished both, asshole. Don't attempt to lecture me on something I've played.
>>572958127I liked them too. >>572958176At some point they decided you'd have Malkavian Silverhand in your head, so it would have been redundant. Just as well, if they released the exact same thing again today most of you would complain it was "Marvel writing" or some other gay thing you saw here.>>572958453I wanted it. In hindsight the little things it adds are so out of place I probably would have skipped it, but eh.
>>572959104Everything I've said is true, as is everything I say. You should have paid better attention.
>>572959469Take your meds, preferably OD on them.
How did paradox even end up with VTM in their handsThey are a map painting company
>>572959608Paradox only published it. They publish quite a few random games.
>>572959593Caller, preferring the first game is fine, but pretending it has better movement? Combat? That the disciplines all being 90% the same is better than everything being unique? Come on now.
>>572957763None of that has to do with any so-called "perpetual early access". I accept your concession.
>>572959848The humor in VtMB2 was legitimately ass. You can tell that it was written by shit white women in their 30s find funny. And too many voice actors have obvious swedish accents and its incredibly immersion breaking. The cool thing? Unique melee combat animations for all clans.
I would peg the block around St. Stephen's to be about the size of the Santa Monica hub, and that's not counting the verticality. You'll sometimes hear memed out faggots and haters (but I repeat myself) claim the city is really small, but only in comparison to GTA or something like that. It's much larger than any single hub in Bloodlines, and probably larger than any two.
>>572957039I find both of the big overhauls (x-com filez and x-piratez) for x-com too long. I wish they had an abridged campaign.
>>572959608the CEO was a huge LARP fan and bought it for pennies after the rights from CCP Games after they bought white wolf to make a Vampire MMORPG but never got around to it>They are a map painting companyyeah and CK3 is the best world of darkness CRPG to date
>>572960017>2004 vs 2025
>>572959912lack of polish is perpetual early access might as well be a placeholder for a real game
>>572960174>lack of polishYou didn't mention anything related to lack of polish.I mean even from your point of view, would "finishing" xenonauts suddenly make you change your mind? You'll just say something about "polishing a turd" won't you?
when will CH3 roll in Rogue Trader?I just landed on agri world and cleansed the industrial one
>>572960005Yeah, and you'd be saying the same shit to VTMB today if it came out right now. "It's so quippy, something something MARVEL, redditors like MARVEL, I'm not a redditor I'm based, what the fuck, this is like MARVEL, why is it like MARVEL, they write like MARVEL with jokes and stuff what the fuck it isn't even based, quippy quip quip member berries kino kek based cope based!"Keep in mind that you are, all of you, subhuman. You repeat the same dozen or so things over and over again, you hate everything, and the only reason old good is that it was already solidified as good in the online zeitgeist before you let this place shit in your brain. If 4chan saw the malkavian stop sign argument today they'd post a fucking shazam at it.
>>572960398The fact that you seem this upset makes me believe you have some dog in this fight.
>>572960398>b-bu-but if it came out today!!Shut up. Not relevant. VtMB humor aged like fine wine and is actually funny. VtMB2 is not.
>>572960475>this upsetI'm not upset, I'm just typing words at you and correcting you. You're low IQ so you think that signals emotional investment (after all, I think I said "fuck" right) because that's what it would signal for you. Zoomers literally can't comprehend online conversation despite living online, it's crazy.>>572960651"Rawr, I'm a dinosaur", yeah I bet 4chan wouldn't post that black retard that moves shit with her mind, right? None of that? I mean come on bro, you anon boys are so full of it. That would absolutely be all over /v/ for a year with a bunch of unemployeds posting in green about how this was all an israeli plot. The only reason you give it a pass now is it's old.
>>572960823Backtrack and deny all you want, you look salty to all who perceive you.
Why does the lack of Polish devs matter?
>uhhhhhhh r*ddit much its miss r*ddit holy r*ddit I AM JEANETTE who is this tranny girl boss its r*ddit go back to r*dditI can see it now. Imagine diarrhea colored anonbots talking to Smiling Jack first thing in the tutorial now. "Haha, we're popping a cherry here", oh man it's iron man. You're delusional if you think tranime watching meme bots wouldn't be shitting on it left and right today.
>>572959104>he played Bloodlines 2>he paid for Bloodlines 2
>>572960389no, but I am inclined to place your ancestry somewhere in central Asia.
>>572961021>you look saltyOkay? What a zoomer thing to worry about.
>>572960037Yeah, they're definitely long. I've never finished a campaign.
what did /crpgg/ think of the Gothic remake
Blood has different properties depending on if the person is scared, angry, horny, and so on, and you can manipulate them to get the properties you want.
since it seems appropriate to ask, would I enjoy VTMB1 in current year and are there any essential mods for somewhat vanilla experience
>>572961279>resorting to insults after running out of argumentsThanks for your concession, friend.Always nice when someone like you acts out the "I AM SILLY" part of the argument.
>>572961917It's still good, but I do think it has aged worse than some rose colored glasses would have you believe. Unfortunately your best bet for a vanilla experience today is still the wesp5 basic patch, but even that has a lot of fanfiction in it. The true original 1.2 game is almost lost media at this point.
>>572961584Better than bloodlines 2
>>572962089thats not saying much to be honest
>>572961246Got it free.
vtmb works because it manages to sell schizophrenic vampires as a concept but also makes playing as one unexpected and funny. it has early 2000s self-aware comedy that remains relevant and entertaining. vtmb2 is derivative and millennial. it‘s a poor man’s cyberpunk77 that sacrificed creativity, humor, risk, and depth for an on-rails Ubisoft movie adventure
Most of the HSL map was recycled, but they did wall off parts of it, like the ferris wheel from the original trailers. You can still cheat your way over but it's mostly unfinished, unless they finished it for one of the expansions.
>>572962492For someone just playing it now you seem to know a lot about it. Why? Did you follow development closely?
>>572962434Nonsensical pseud word salad. VTMB is old and was established as good already by the time you became self aware, so it gets grandfathered in. If it came out today you'd be posting your collection of preprogrammed phrases at it.>>572962604>just playing it nowNever said I was just playing it now, that's something you imagined. You people do that a lot. I suspect it's because you're kind of dumb, but who knows.
>>572962342Oh, that's good to know.
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>>572962713Hm? I was just asking, who are you compared to "us". Your blogging seems like a first experience thing so I got curious.
>>572962927The combat really is just so much better. I can entertain anyone who thinks the first did a better job with character sheets, but anyone claiming the first's clunky combat is even on par is such a clown.
>>572963354Even the shooting feels better, which is crazy since the first game was basically a Half Life 2 mod and the shooting here was pretty much tacked on. Having enemies animate and behave like they just got shot goes a long ways I guess. Anyways, this concludes part 1 of the VTMB2 CRPG playthrough. Part 2 coming soon!
>>572961584>UE5>disastrous demo and teaser>devs don't know how to balance their game>bugs upon bugsmaybe in 3 years I'll play it
