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Pure Aura Edition

Previous lessons from Kris: >>572979952

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
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-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

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>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

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*taps the sign*
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We’re doing this bit again?
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personal creations anchor just in case edition
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inb4 janny'd
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rarghhh I HATE split threads because they interrupt my /pol/shit stimstims
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Ueueleuleuleue
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I dont think ive seen anyone post the girlfriend version of this text
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Anons how do I improve art skills without drawing im trying to draw a terakota with a man's girl and it suck still
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>>572991435
Learn to write first.
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Has Toby given up on Pacifist/Violence mechanics? Half the bosses in chapter 5 require ACTing and i don't think theres any special cutscene if you recruit everyone
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Hey Toby Fox why did you think it was a good idea to have a 30 year preamble before the stupid TV sections you know some section of the player base will continuously replay until they get the T rank?
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>>572991592
Its autocorrect fucking sorry anon im phone posting in bed because im a fat fucking slob
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>>572991624
The recruit cutscene is the Flowery misdirect, where the recruits are his because he's a hero, casting you as the villain
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>>572991096
I hate women sorry anon
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>>572991697
In my experience you will get marginally better art skills as you grow up. Practice is important if you want to get actually good, but I can do a simple sketch without any problems nowadays, freehanding it. It was a lot harder when I was in my early twenties, so maybe it's a brain development thing. Pathetically little practice will still get you results eventually
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My greatest fear is that nothing will actually have a decent payoff and literally every single fan theory will be more interesting than the actual answers we get in game.
I really hope Deltarune doesn't turn into Hazbin Hotel.
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hahahaflowershahahaha
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Getting touched by Javil right now, are there any images of him getting fucked that will make me feel better?
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>>572992867
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I was 16 when Undertale came out.
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>>572993389
I was fifteen, oh, how time passes by all.
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>There are people itt right now that don't believe that Frisk is basically Chara but Lazarus'd and controlled by the Player.
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>>572991096
i've lpsted it LIKE 4 TIMES you ASSHOLE
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>>572990448
How are we feeling on the "Susie is a half-human" theory
Chapter 5's dialogue with the flowers makes me thinks its real
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Not having the option to fight the flowers was a huge letdown and blatand anti-Toby design. He betrayed his principles.
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>>572994620
did you say this for the knight and the titan as well, or
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>>572994745
The knight is okay. Nobody likes the Titan fight partially because it's just a thing and not a person
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>>572994620
Kris would not let you harm them.
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>>572996002
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>>572991657
You can just sleep on the couch and skip all of this lole
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>>572991975
>literally every single fan theory will be more interesting than the actual answers we get in game.
Surely this will be the case. I mean, Toby cares first and foremost about the emotional impact of a first playthrough. It must be as confusing and miserable as possible to give a reason for people invested in the story to find meaning in what they just witnessed. That's where the >fun begins.
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>>572995097
I love the titan fight. It might be my favorite boss in the game besides Jevil, actually
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utdr twitter is so ass I just saw a tweet from a 15 year old with trans flags in the bio talk about getting groomed
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>>572990448
real previous thread: >>572990369
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>>572999571
link
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tenna sex
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I wish I could draw...
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>>572994449
Susie is 100% human she just dresses up purple because she's autistic
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>>572994620
Toby has historically shied away from letting you heem children in his games
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telly
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>>573000720
fat telly?
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>>573000431
This one
https://deltarune.com/the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl/
The way that Susie acts here is really weird as fuck, like bizarrely hostile even by Chapter 1 standards, but if that's the Susie that's seen in the Shadow Crystals than it suddenly makes way more sense to me
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>>573000691
then draw
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I think Kris should grow their hair out.
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>>573000691
Why is there one of these every thread
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>>573000775
The spoiler...
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>>572999571
I don't give a fuck you cry about spooky flags, SHUT UP and talk about the game you weak-ass baby
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I’m a /utg/ regular and I think ch5 isn’t good now call me a /v/ tourist
fuzzy cwitters
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>>573000715
Toyotaro is a cuck and the promotional toilet paper chicken scratches he calls a "manga" is cancelled and never coming back.
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>>573000806
I wish I could have more original posts..
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>>573000806
we do a lil ritual's
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You should be able to kill the wedding bouquet. Asgore has to throw them out and move on from Toriel.
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>>573000816
what about it?
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i want to stuff tenna full of deluxedinners and inhale his hot wet burps
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>>573000806
It's a mating call.
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>>572990448
Hooman!
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From the producers of Big Fave Bellies
Now comes
Big Heckin Favers
Coming soon
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>>573000895
I didn't know it was still a ritual if it was super late in a thread
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>>573000842
I may not agree with your opinion, but I respect it
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OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH YEAH BABY SWING IT SWING IT PAPI PAPI COO TENNY TOO TV TV TENNY WENNY WOO WOO SWINGAREELIDOO WINNY WOO JENNY RENNY JOO TENNY SHENNY WENNY PENNY FENNY FOO FOO ROO ROO REE ROO ROO! OH YEAHHHHH SWING IT BABY SWING ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

I LOVE TV! TV WINNY WONNAROOOOOOO!
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>>572999734
Would you like to share said Miracle-Gro feederism Flowery art with the thread
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>>572991975
Kris being raped by Noelle and committing murder suicide was better than every single weird route theory.
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>>572990960
You're seething like a faggot. Stop it, get some help
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hate tv
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>>572999571
that's the bad place. you gotta stop looking there
especially since reactive trannoids like >>573000839 will scree and report you
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Susie in Chapter 6 be like:
>I KNEW IT
>THE ROARING KNIGHT WAS MY FRIEND'S DAD's boy...boyfriend...
>...
>I'm calling Noelle...
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do you guys think the kissy mew mew franchise have any r18 media/games
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>>573000960
i love toby for putting a sexy agp queen in his game
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Ritual posters are the most mentally ill of all utg posters. Why post the same thing every thread?
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The endgame ship.
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>>573000842
It was like two people who did that, and it wasn't without reason. A lot of the kneejerk hate was from /v/ because Chapter 5 was too gay. As if that was somehow surprising. So it makes sense to assume a lot of the posts are not in faith. I enjoyed it but even before I checked the online discussion I knew it would be polarizing because there weren't enough lorebombs. The festival thing I can't relate to because what I expected wasn't really what a lot of people expected apparently.
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I wish we had more people drawing instead of more people whining about not being able to draw
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>>573001171
pinkfags really look at a fat butt and insert their chaser fetish unprompted
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>>573001169
Probably not, it seems like a pretty typical shojo series.
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>>572996002
No fuck this shit, removing the Susie twitch is criminal
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HAW HAW
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>>573001185
>utg
it's /utg/ tourist
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>>572999571
Do you think people were joking when they said this is a great game with a fucking horrible fandom?
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>>573001185
Silence newfag DOG
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wife
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do we control kris whhen he jerks off
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>>573001093
I don't think it was that good and I can't find it again.
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>>573000781
>Susie very visibly getting assmad that Kris has Toriel in their life, even if Toriel isn't exactly perfect
>Then Chapter 5 claims that Susie was mad at Kris cause she thought Kris was banging Noelle instead
Yeah it either got super retconned and swept under the rug, or those blogs really were some insight into a different timeline
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>>573001278
The threads have been so ass we legitimately don't deserve OC. Going to be a while.
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>>572999571
>trans flags in the bio talk about getting groomed
But anon, that's all people with trans flags!
*Laugh track plays*
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>>573000781
It has to be another timeline since Noelle says she never saw Susie actually bully anyone in chapter 1 and Susie talks to Kris as if they have no history.
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Look Outside
ISAT
Omori
Super Lesbian Animal RPG

All better than Deltarune
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>>573001397
I need my stimmies I refuse to disconnect my umbilical cord from /utg/
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>finally leave hometown
>turns out that the rest of the (non-Monster) world is a medieval shithole without electricity or vehicles
Would you rike it?
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>>573001394
*snarls and unsheathes sphynxtelly claws* At least...tell me what..."WEB SITE" you saw it on...*hot air comes out of vents on sides of my screen head, earantennas twitch*
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>>573001469
I can't take Kralsei seriously because I keep imaging Kris just thinking of Asriel when they look at Ralsei and that seems really hard for someone to fuck with. Literally.
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i forgot, when does this face appear in chapter 5? it seems we get it once every chapter
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>>572990870
This goat is very pretty. No matter the gender, I will love and cherish Ralsei with everything I've got. Gote makes me happy, and I hope you all enjoy the finished piece!

Can you spot the easter egg?

"Hatless" alt here: https://files.catbox.moe/h6h01d.png

cat_anon
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>>573001447
"Conservative comedy", everyone. These guys are the reason groceries are unaffordable.
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>>573001541
That would make no sense at all.
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>>573001297
Kris with a nose just feels wrong
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>>573001531
i have substance abuse problems
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>>572997792
You know, I do think it's interesting that every chapter has had a reference to noelle being the angel, like the weird route this chapter having her talk about growing wings, or previous minor things like her dressing as the angel for holidays/a school play or all the way back in chapter 1 where rudy mentioned the angel doll noelle and dess made...


Point is... I guess before I figured noelle would become the angel by the end of the story, but now I'm curious if that's the culmination of the side B plot.
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>>573001397
The threads are fun and comfy when americans are asleep...
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I tried my best Sandy but we might be cooked Nat’s Cousin seems all but thematically obsolete at this point
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>>573001598
During the failed WR lake talk in the darkworld iirc
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>>573001253
Thats all just a loada bullshit, cmon man.
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>>573001503
>Super Lesbian Animal RPG
how am i supposed to take a game with a title like this seriously
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>>573001397
The 2 best drawfags still haven’t returned so maybe you’re right
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>>573001541
I would be pretty confused because why the fuck is it like that? What the fuck is this, 1632?
>>573001605
Oh wow, this is quite nice anon. Good job.
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>>573001628
Sounds like you should be treating substances better, you monster.
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>>573001686
I was there, "it's bullshit" isn't exactly a convincing argument to me who has seen it with my own eyes, but alright.
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>>573001687
I respect Super Lesbian Animal RPG because it filters every single person who'd hate the game on principle with its title alone
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what kind of music does Ralsei listen to?
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>>573001687
You're in a thread for super lesbian animal RPG right now son
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>>573001790
penis music
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>>573001720
disingenuous bait try again
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>>573001790
penis music
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>>573001790
The soundtrack.
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>>573001789
At this point I kind of wish Toby named Deltarune Super Lesbian Animal RPG, the threads would be a lot more bareable.
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>>573001789
i'd like to play more games with trans lesbian furry characters but that title is just awful.
>>573001810
yea but it's called something cool like Deltarune.
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>>573001838
>>573001884
These are Susie's two braincells
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I always knew Kriselle is never going to happen, still think it's more fun than Suselle
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>>573001790
flowery's mixtape (Kris swapped out all his cassettes while he wasn't looking)
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>>573001790
it's penis music
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>>573001754
I am a monster
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>>573001541
Nonsensical, I guess? Humans are considered weird but equal
What you’re describing sounds like a reverse Undertale situation where monsters keep humans in a bubble. But again doesnt add up, Deltarune doesnt have a two-tiered society unless you consider Lightners and dirty backstabbing moneygrubbing Darkners
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it feels like toby is tired of this part of the game and wants to get to the edgy lore dumps, the character writing was super inconsistent and lazy in chapter 5
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>>573001720
1st best drawfag: Spamton's cock cumming art all over his fupa
2nd best drawfag: Tenna's cock dribbling and leaking art down his tree trunk sized thighs
3rd best drawfag: all the /utg/ drawfags :)
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>>573001918
Super Lesbian Animal RPG doesn't do fake advertisement like Deltarune
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>>573002006
Are you one of the cool sexy monsters, like Mettaton, or one of the ugly annoying monsters, like milk looker?
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>>573001863
Painter and Fujoanon
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>>573001961
It'd be less insulting if the man didn't also showcase that he can write good romance with all the Susie-Kris and Kris-Noelle shit in this chapter, only to then still settle on the painfully forced fag shit.
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>>573001503
>Super Lesbian Animal RPG
I know the person who made this because I used to be in a skype group with them and they were a cunt.
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Chapter 5 is my favorite but the festival truly felt like a wet fart if I'm being honest
I wasn't expecting some grand event with 10 hours of gameplay on it alone, that would have been ridiculous but there was a whole lot of nothing to do. The only part that stood out to me was the Pizzapants date fiasco. Couldn't Toby have done something like, I don't know, copy-paste the Swanky minigame from DKC3 at least? Something like that would have been nice
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7Iper9Hs_wQ
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>>573001743
Thank you!
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>>573001585
speedreader-san, i...
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>>573001961
>game ends
>Soul gets free reign and can manipulate all the NPCs like a cross between Tamagotchi and Pocket God
FUND IT.
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>>573001618
I chuckled
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>>572997846
I don't think we talk enough about how Noelle is able to permanently kill Darkners in ch2 and how Snowgrave is FATAL because it attacks Berdly in the Light World.
It's normally impossible to actually "kill" anyone within the Dark World. Not because the enemies run away but because being at 0hp doesn't spell death, anyone can be "revived" with regular healing. But destroying the Light World object is what spells perma-death.
I feel like Ralsei and Noelle are 2 sides of the same coin. Noelle having meta-gamey freeze powers representing stagnation and inability to move on while Ralsei has burn metagame symbolizing Killing the Past.
If the Knight is Dess's corpse, maybe the best ending is for Noelle and Kris to accept she's dead by burning it allowing it to become dust like monsters are supposed to, instead of trying to preserve it forever.
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>>573002090
ranking people is gay and homosexual
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>>573002124
surface-level reader-san, I...
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>Chapter 3 comes out
Why are there so many minigames this sucks
>Festival happens
Where are all the minigames?
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>>573002104
Toby simply is not cool enough for Donkey Kong Country I don't think he fucks with those games even a little bit outside of secondhand exposure from memes on tumblr
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>>573002224
It’s true
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>>573002124
Is he wrong? Multiple characters pointed out that Ralsei looks similar to Asriel, beyond them both being white goat boys
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>>573002090
Both have been around since the chapters dropped. Exposing your own ignorance here.
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>>573001397
Nobody ever responds to my drawings...
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>>573001638
I find the JP deltarune fandom a lot more tolerable these days than the western one. Western DR fandom is just endless brainrot theorizing. Some people just can't move on from Mike being a hoax and Determination not existing, and have a boner for applying UT mechanics to DR like it's set in stone that they work the same. And now they're all salty more than half of their brainrot isn't true.
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>>573001775
I was there too, youre lying or just ignored all the valid complaints about the writing that havent changed because of your culture war obsession.
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I’m getting better but this little clown fuck is still pushing my shit in
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>>573002124
The way Kris points out all the differences implies that they look similar, just not identical.
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>>573002024
He's the one that killed the pacing and tone 4 set for this shit, he wanted his yurifagging no matter the cost.
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>>573002292
what theories does the JP fandom have
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>>573002248
>Chapter 3 comes out
Why are there so many minigames back to back to back to back to back?
>Festival happens
What the fuck, Toby built this up for 7 years and its over in a couple minutes?

Fixed that for you, you disingenuous ass
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>>573002341
TIME TO RIDE THE CAROUSEL
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>>572990448
why is xitter moaning abour ralsei being a tranny?
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>>573001902
How Ralsei did not ascend listening to Third Sanctuary, we may never know
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>>573001394
*consumes you with my telly jaws for baiting me*
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>>573002072
My hairstyle is just like mettaton’s its a pure coincidence
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>>573002285
post one of them and i'll give you another (You)
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>>573002336
Okay man, hate it if you want, it's fine, I tire of this
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>>572990448
Honestly, I feel vindicated by all the Chapter 5 hate because I imagine it's mostly coming from the people who have 4 as their favorite. I don't hate any chapter, but I was pretty underwhelmed by 4 and it was always bizarre to me how barely anyone brought up its obvious weak points such as a really boring and barren Dark world and the climbing mechanic getting old fast. I guess people loved the drama and lore THAT much..? But while I have my complaints about 5, it's much closer to the direction I feel the game should be taking. You've had your year, now I'll have mine.

Granted, Chapter 6 is probably gonna be dark as shit, but I at least hope its Dark World is actually interesing and has lots of things happen rather than just setting up the prophecy like in 4.
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>>573002409
It's a pure coincidence that you got a sexy haircut?
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>>573002292
Show me where do 11s actually analyze the plot and characters or comment on what the meta elements say about RPGs
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>>573001396
>Then Chapter 5 claims that Susie was mad at Kris cause she thought Kris was banging Noelle instead
I missed this scene, does Susie actually say that’s the reason she bullied Kris?
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>>573002278
Did you read my post? >>573001720
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>>573002248
>Me when I make up strawmen arguments to dunk on
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>>573002381
i remember one, chara being the controller/soul in deltarune because gaster put her there
https://youtu.be/EZ9z6qyE88Q
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https://files.catbox.moe/cog1f2.torrent
torrent for the Undertale Image Collection in https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba
>>572739725
>The "Undertale Image Collection" link in this pastebin will go down ~5 days from now
>It contains 280,000 pictures (124GB) of SFW Undertale and Deltarune fan art going up to 2022, majority Undertale, majority humans
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>>573002418
N-no, I'm shy... *sighs* but this is why I post, "I wish I could draw," if I were better then...!
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>>573002258
What I meant is some carnival game along those lines would have been nice and would've made the whole thing feel a little more complete, just something a little more interactive, some type of minigame
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>>573002292
Thanks for the input, Toby
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>>573002381
Doesplit is the most interesting one. I dont know what they call it in Japanese. Quick rundown:
>Dess and Noelle were originally one being
>TRAGEDY happens and she dies
>Game resets (chapter 3 hint) and one half of the being is revived (Noelle) but the other half must remain ‘dead’ (Dess) as payment
Its very poorly defended but this theory pops up a ton over on rice island
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>>573002457
To be honest I'd probably rank the chapters like this:
5 > 3 > 2 > 4 > 1.
Only real reason I'd rank 4 above 1 though is just because Gerson mentoring Susie was really good stuff.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNDGolhEU2I
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>>573002457
The chapter 4 dark worlds do have rich worldbuilding if you actually spoke to any NPCs. Dark worlds don't all have to be kingdoms.
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>>572991624
>Has Toby given up on Pacifist/Violence mechanics?
pretty much, aqua is literally the only ch5 boss you can be violent towards, everyone else is pacifist only
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>>573002457
this drawing alone gives the Flowers more character than they had in game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opGju28vG4I
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>>573002401
You mean the website that pays you money for starting shit?
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>>573002104
Chapter 5 is my favorite too (by a notable margin, at that) and I can totally agree the festival is underwhelming, I guess having minigames in the light world would defeat the theme of the dark world being the 'fun' part but they could've festival-ed up castle town a bit more at least
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ral looks like kris but he's distinct enough for kris to tell susie nah man c'mon they're different
i feel it could be a case of like, someone's mom being blonde and their girlfriend is also blonde. yeah they're both blonde but it's not like they're twins. that said even if ralsei was just a prettier asriel that would be hot too incest is based
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>>573002534
But they have? Did you read my post? Fujo has made art. I don't think Painter has made any art since the chapter came out but she always made art more infrequently and it's only been just over a week, she's been in the thread though.
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Has anyone made a "Meet potential titan" meme about Ralsei yet
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>>573002292
>Mike being a hoax
Mike isn't a hoax though, the Mike room was clowning the theories that tried to tie Mike to an actual character.
Mike is more of a nebulous force of nature interfering with the chessboard.
Also Battat tells you that Mike acted different before that other guy(spamton) left. Tenna in ch5 also infodumps that the real Mike warned him about giving Spamton a contract.
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>>573002182
I wonder why Ralsei wants to keep his firegraves from the player so much if that's the case. Is the prophecy he wants to prevent Dess staying dead? Is it just cause Kris doesn't want to truly lose the past?
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>>573002562
If you don't post your art right now i'll NEVER give it any replies. Don't be scared, I wont be mean.
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>>573002495
That I got his sexy haircut ya. I was combining two different haircuts and they happened to combine into mettaton’s
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>>573002507
If you hang out with Susie in the bathhouse area of the dark world instead, she says she thought Kris and Noelle were a thing, and that she was jealous. She doesn't outright say that's why she bullied Kris, but it's implied. It's also just kind of an asspull considering how chapter one has her not at all excited by the idea of Noelle asking her to work with her on the project at the library, but that's a whole other thing entirely
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>comments/qrts
what's with this ship and people just openly lusting for it en masse without it setting off muh proship arguments
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>>573002663
I spoke to the NPCs and I don't get the sense that the sanctuary world has any history at all. They all just sort of exist. The tiny cup guys obsess over the mizzles, I'm pretty that's the only relationship any of the NPCs have with each other. Everyone else is secluded to their sections. Meanwhile even in chapter 1 ordinary Rudinns have something going on in their lives. I still think chapter 1 is worse overall, but its Darkners don't feel as one-note and handwavy as the chapter 4 ones do.
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If Ralsei used firegrave or whatever would he actually burn stuff in the light world?
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>>573002861
this dude got a haircut from malius
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Goodnight my pathetic excuse for a prince
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The Gerson appearance in chapter 4 worked because his presence meaningfully furthered Susie's character development, and many fans wished they could have fought him in Undertale. The constant self referencing in chapter 5 has none of these traits
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>>573001637
The fun gang is supposed to have seen how the Angel looks like in the Third Sanctuary, at least that's how Ralsei presents it. Susie doesn't seem to agree to that and of course all we see is plain black. Many say the black tapestry is supposed to reflect the player's face. It could be true.
But given the prophecy talks about a banishment of the Angel, there could be a change of the Angel's actual identity. Foreshadowed for a long time now.
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>>573002731
How would I know this if I’m not in your discord
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>this is what Susellefags took from us
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>>573002292
The tendency to apply UT to DR just bugs me, like monsters in DR don't have magic (probably their defining characteristic in UT), why would you assume anything else is the same without being told so
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I believe in Multiple Timelines
>SAY SOMETHING, YOU IDIOT
>I missed you.
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>>573002762
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>>573002810
I was hoping this would be hot goonporn
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>>573002861
How do you combine two haircuts? I haven't gotten a haircut in over a year, so explain it simply.
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>>573002849
ZAMN! Fujo fucks THAT?!
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Now that Ralsei is finally seeing himself as a person and not just as a tool for the lightners, he's definitely just doing this because he's into it
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>>573002945
wdym by self referencing
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>>573002945
it has at least half of that for me. getting to meet the six other fallen humans in some form after a decade was very cathartic
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>>573002959
Please tell me there's a full
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>>573002721
i meant **ASRIEL woops
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>>573002884
Because there's no actual romantic energy between them to start arguments about but it's still hot because it's confident older twink x bratty femboy.
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>>573002959
Every dream Noelle has had since she hit puberty goes exactly like this
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>>573002958
>claims to like these drawfags
>doesn't even know when they're around
my larp readings are off the charts
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>>573002536
>Make up
You sure? You really sure you wanna pretend that that take is made up?
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>>573003021
Imagine sticking your hot sweaty boner in between them and frotting both of them at the same time...
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>Someone mentioned DKC
>Someone mentioned third sanctuary
>This showed up on my playlist just now
Youtube is watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1ds4N757qE
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>>573003062
there is
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>>573003021
i wish i had a man to do this to
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>>573002907
if Berdly seemed to just freeze in time, maybe it speeds up the entropy of something in the real world?
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>>573002958
I'm not in any Discord. I just pay attention to the threads and the whiteboards. I'm sorry you're not engrained enough in /utg/ culture to just spot these things.
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>>573002973
I'm going to laugh when Rudy "falling down" really does just mean he fell off the ladder
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>>573002945
this is how it was for the other chapters too
queen reflected noelle
tenna reflected kris and his family
flowery and the su muppet gang are just...? so useless
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>>573002639
Now I want to hear more international schizokino
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>>573002995
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>>573002910
When my bangs get in the way of my eye i swish my head back to move it and i feel so sexy
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>>573002884
Sometimes people can acknowledge bratty boys deserve a good dicking for the sake of character development and getting over differences, especially when the top is so widely liked and beloved
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>>573003167
You wouldn't... Have it, would you? Haha. Asking for a friend
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>>573002739
If we approach Deltarune from a meta perspective, a story "has" to play out or the world will end. Part of "the world ending" is the player getting disinterested and leaving.
We see the suspension of disbelief getting peeled away further into the story because we the players are too invested in the characters now to quit. This is what makes it easier for the rules of the game to be broken.
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I completely forgot that the Thrash Machine was Berdly's idea.
Susie SHOULD'VE went with Berdly.
He's built for this shit.
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>>573003179
The firegraves that makes you old...
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>>573003038
The flowers have no reason to reference the SOULs at all and we don't learn anything about the fallen humans from them. They add nothing. The constant references to Jevill add nothing. It's all arbitrary
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>>573003117
Go on, quote the one or two posts this thread mentioning is as if the majority of complaints about the festival are not about how it's been hyped up as a turning point for the last 8 years and only really was one for the WR.
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Her silence across five chapters has been deafening.
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>>573002884
Have you EVER seen a gay male ship create controversy? People only ever get pissed on the behalf of women or hurt straight man pride.
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>>573003071
i thought fujos hated femboys
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*drunk crying*
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>>573003020
Scene ass bangs over one eye and a very short mullet like spamton
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>>573003348
you know nothing about fujos.
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>>573003348
>fujos hating femboys
You sound very underage or new to the internet
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>>573003294
>it's been hyped up as a turning point for the last 8 years
Ah so this continues to be you made up a headcanon and got mad it didn't come true. Alright
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https://bsky.app/profile/tobyfox.undertale.com/post/3mpuctxt3as2l
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>>573003224
they mean everything to me
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>>573002884
Most people seem to think the ship is fine as long as it's presented as Ralsei having an unrequited crush on Flowery who's just trolling but not reciprocating.
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>>573003238
It's clearly better if Ralsei topped while Flowery corrected him from the bottom and made him angrier, are you stupid?
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>>573002945
We're larping so hard we are just pretending people weren't interested in the other fallen humans now huh. That's genuinely insane to me, are we actually pretending GERSON was more hyped than the humans now
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>>573001356
Why does she look like she's gonna beat me up with fighting game moves?
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>>573003363
*sticks my boob in your mouth*
shhhh don't cry
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>>573003105
You caught me. Painter is way better than everyone else
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>>573003348
There’s always a minority opinion nonny.
Some straight women genuinely read self-insert Ralsei x Female fapfics
There’s just no accounting for taste
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>>573003430
>If I pretend it was not brought up every single fucking chapter, I can pretend it was not being set up as a major event!
You are the most pathetic worm like creature itt.
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Ralsei likes Kris, but Kris doesn't really like Ralsei.
Kris just let's Ralsei think there's chemistry because they know Ralsei knows they're opening fountains and helping the knight.
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>>573003105
>>573003150
I think that's the schizo that vandalizes OPs and starts crying over an imaginary whiteboard/magma discord when called out
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>>573003482
>doesn't know about her evil twin, retniaP
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>>573003482
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>>573003105
Hey I like those drawfags but I'm not that guy, how does one genuinely know who they are in this thread unless they post new art
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>>573003285
>constant references to Jevil add nothing
Would you say they're chaotic?
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>>573003449
DR's flowers are not the UT humans thoughbeit. Toby has made it perfectly clear time and time and time again that 95% UT characters do fucking nothing in this game. (you) are projecting your own headcanon onto the flowers
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>>573003551
>His tea becomes the 2nd best tea in the game
This isn't the evidence you think it is.
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>>573003439
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>>573003449
>We're larping so hard we are just pretending people weren't interested in the other fallen humans now huh
Those aren't "the other fallen humans", they're flowers pretending to be humans based on their extremely limited understanding of what it even means to be humans. Or do you actually think the orange human was actually a rat the whole time? Not at all comparable to Gerson who's clearly just an altarnate version of his Undertale self with the same personality.
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>>573003523
>pathetic worm
Rouxls is that you?
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>>573003021
stinky fujo sex
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>what is my purpose?
>(YOU BUG TEST AND SEARCH FOR EXPLOITS)
>oh my god
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>>573003449
shut the fuck up. i am sick of little therylorefaggotdogs fagghots like yourself. lmao. you typed this and really thought you said something real. just kill yourself you useless waste of space. no1 will miss u.
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>>573003480
*slaps it away and screams loud as fuck*
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>>573003735
Why sad? She'd fucking love that shit
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Ford Sanctuary
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>>573002973
It's a pet peeve of mine. No determination, no monster magic outside of dark world, monsters bleeding, the player soul being the only soul we see in-game...and you still get UT-applied theories.

That and the fandom's sheer avoidance of Occam's Razor when theorycrafting. Sometimes the simplest explanation really is the answer, maybe Rudy just fell down from the ladder, but they'll have you believe he's dead and turned to dust (which, if so, Kris and Susie would be whisked to his remains at the end of the chapter).
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>>573003762
*swaddles you and carries you to bed*
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>>573003742
Woah calm down friendo. It's just a video game
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>>573003676
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>>573003176
I'd eat my own feet with a spork for a girlfriend at this point.
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>>573003449
They were interested, the problem was that it wasn't properly woven into the story. The fact that the flowers reference the SOULs is purely incidental, and even then they're their own characters so any information is piecemeal at best. Do you really think the yellow human was a comically suicidal cowboy or that the orange one was a mouse?
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>>573003436
anyone excited for persona 4 remake
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I need my own Ralsei so bad
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>>573001397
sorry...
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>>573003765
>Even the Suselle fanart is fucking over Berdly and Kris
Nothing good came of this
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>>573003796
i laffed
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>>573003869
>Do you really think the yellow human was a comically suicidal cowboy
Yeah I played Undertale Yellow
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>>573002953
Well I don't think the angel will look literally like noelle, but like... in a different dress. So all that speculation never means anything to me and just makes me joke motherfuckers need to clean off their monitors.

Imagine if the side b plot ends with noelle taking the soul, god of hyperdeath noelle wouldn't look much like noelle anymore would it?
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On the topic of not applying UT logic to DR though!
Has anyone noticed that none of the text explicitly states that monsters turn to dust automatically after dying? It simply states that it's tradition to sprinkle their dust over their favorite object.
I feel like the omission of how monsters become dust is intentional as we're lead to believe a corpse can't be left behind. But in ch5 we see that Onion was chopped up and Asgore talks about parading the Knight's corpse around to prove something.
Which means that it's possible the Knight really is Dess's corpse that got dumped into the lake and got reanimated from Kris trying to revive her through a demonic ritual at Catti's house.
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>>573003885
not really
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>>573003927
have you tried not being so sensitive
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>>573003646
>>573003680
Stop being deliberately obtuse I don't have time to pretend argue with someone that pretends to believe that.
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>>573003861
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>>573003984
Actually good post.

Im not shitposting when I say that Hometown likely has a huge crematorium just off-screen.
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Asriel and Ralsei...
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>>573003984
I assumed there was a book somewhere that mentioned it that I missed or skimmed given how anon's talk about it, but I had considered that cremation might just be a given, sorta like in Japan where I assume toby originally got the idea
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>>573003984
>Asgore talks about parading the Knight's corpse around to prove something.
ohhh wow, you're right
my shitposting about a Hometown Crematorium was realized!?
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>>573003869
>Do you really think the yellow human was a comically suicidal cowboy
As of now? Yeah probably
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Fuck, Marry, Kill, Bury Alive, Bury Alive, Incinerate
>Kris (either sex), Ralsei, Susie, Noelle, Berdly, Aqua
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>>573003984
Onionkun being chopped up is a meme though.
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>>573004043
Yellow is a fucking fangame reference my guy, please get out from under your high horse
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>>573002884
I just want to see Ralsei get fucked by a hot anime man and pretend he hates it man it's not that deep
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>>573004250
Is there any other reasonable explanation of NormalNPC's dialogue? It's more than just a meme.
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The flowers are so funny. Orange especially fucking kills me.
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So is FRIEND based on Toby's other cat Kawkaw aka Michael
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>>573004091
Cute and rapeable!
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>>573003984
it still works even if they function like UT monsters too, doesn't it? monsters can be "fallen down" for a while before turning into dust.
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>>573002434
Youre like a child. Its either you love chapter 5 like a good /utg/ boy or hate it like a stupid /v/ chud.
I wonder what causes this mindset... is it because the newer generations didnt use forums and mainly discuss media on twitter and youtube comment sections?
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>>573004237
Fuck: Aqua
Marry: Kris Female
Kill: Berdly
Bury Alive: Susie and Noelle
Incinerate: Ralsei
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>>573004091
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>>573004308
I will revenge myself for never having this when I was young.
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>>573004305
Also the fact that he never shows up if Kris skips the festival. He's only there to let Kris/The player know something's up.
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>pushes back curtain, revealing Anon putting on a sock
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>>573004403
>"you want sum fuk?"
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Which way /udg/ man
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>>573004403
Why is this a recurring bit that happens like 3 times in Chapter 5 alone.
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>>573004305
I'm going to distract you instead: 2G is UT currency, not Deltarune.
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>>573004353
>shorter attention span
>less literate
>minds reprogrammed by algorithms
>intentionally fed culture war slop from childhood
Current generation is cooked. I remember “flame wars” from the fucking forum era that were more civilized and insightful than anything in these threads.
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>>573004093
>>573004141
>>573004173
By the way this also ties into my earlier post >>573002182
about Ralsei being potentially able to do a firegrave AKA cremate Dess and KILL THE PAST vs Noelle freezing everything AKA desperately hold on to the past.
Also maybe Noelle was involved in the fucked up ritual to bring Dess back by cryofreezing her older sister's corpse and this incident was so traumatizing she blanked it out of her memory.
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>>573002639
Nips are even worse than Jaru
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Undertale fangames about fallen humans should use that color's gimmick as the default mechanic. I was disappointed that Undertale Yellow wasn't based entirely around the Metfaton/Spamton mode. Wouldn't it make sense for a cowboy's main defense to be shooting?
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>>573003762
who hurt you anon
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>>573004403
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>>573004471
It's funny.
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>>573004462
Chud for comedy or comics is great. For save-able art I like sprite accurate or "anime" style. Same for lewds.
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>>573004472
I like the idea that the literal weird parrot was parroting a mistake in speech from someone that has UT knowledge
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>>573004380
You really understand why Dess molested them. If I saw this cutie around town i'd instarape them
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>>573004474
>cooked
brown
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>>573002973
>monsters in DR don't have magic
literally cannot be true now that we know for sure Sans Undertale is actually Sans Deltarune, they merely live in a world where the use of magic is not as casual, probably because they now exist alongside humans who cant use it
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>>573004353
No, I'm just tired of going on and on about this. We're just both going to disagree about what we "saw" and this conversation is pointless. I do not care if you hated it, that is fine. But there were a lot of bad faith people spamming the thread. That's it! You will deny that ever happened though, so this is pointless. Let it go.
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>>573004237
Fuck Kris (female), Marry Susie, Bury Berdly alive, Bury Aqua alive (she's a flower so she'll be fine), Kill Ralsei, Incinerate Noelle
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Fave LOVES that the retarded off-topic baiters on the Dragon Blazers general on Deltachan spend all day browsing Monstwitter for shitty takes to copypasta just fine, but when Fave browses Monstwitter for a HALF FUCKING HOUR to save some sexy Dragon Blazers smut, the RAT SHIT automated AI systen of the website blocks Fave's account for acting too much like a bot BY A FUCKING BOT (not the sexy and sapient kind either) and so many Dragon Blazers fanartists STILL CLING TO MONSTWITTER DESPITE IT BEING A STEAMING PILE OF FUCKING CACA
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>>573004305
He definitely killed Onion. This creature isn’t capable of lying, it’s some sort of meat puppet following outside orders.
It doesn’t have a fully functioning brain.
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being a pacifist during ch3&4 while being on the weird route is the funniest shit ever, all the darkners are like:
>"oh wee, you're so kind and based! we oughta give you minigames and help you!"
meanwhile Berdly is braindead in the hospital and Noelle was raped and used up in her bedroom less than 24 hours ago
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I'm eating chicken fried rice
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>>573004474
Post Chapter 2 era before November 2023 was better than anything
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>>573004562
>>573004651
Gaston of course ;)
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>>573004618
fave suggests making a couple of random tweets to yourself, it stopped doing that after I did that
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>>573004618
it's called xcancel sir
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what is his special sweet talk
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>>573003680
The whole point with ch5 is to establish that Kris is an evil fucked up antagonist and the Flowers are the real heroes stopping the bad guys(and failing). They take on the form of humans(except for Orange because she's retarded) because the HUMANS have the ability to open and close fountains.
They were trying to defy fate and break through the logic of reality with hopes and dreams alone.
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>>573004679
BERDLY NO
RICELY NO
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>>573004536
i get the feeling bits like this, kris being into pet play, masochist/horse ralsei, etc are just toby inserting his fetishes into the game under the guise of comedy
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Did "NormalNPC killed Onion" theories exist pre 5? I never saw it once even though he appears by the lake during the rain in chapter 4 telling you not to wait for him anymore.
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>>573004618
Works on my machine
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>>572995097
but both of those took away the ability to ACT
also, asriel took away the ability to fight
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>>573004587
Noelle explicitly says she wishes magic was real in chapter 2
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>>573004624
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>>573003984
The Catti ritual being responsible for the knight doesn’t seem right to me. The Player, maybe, because we don’t know what Kris did on their end to get it, but the knight is pretty deeply tied to the dark world and the prophecy
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>>573003765
There's some good expressiveness in this art, which makes the tumblr influences in Noelle's design all the worse
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>>573004679
ricegrave...
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>>573004574
As if on cue. How early did Mommy put the iPad in your hands, underage?
Don’t blame her for abandoning you.
I bet she had a lot of important TikTok clips to finish.
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>>573004710
someone got it partially right, ho ho
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>>573004587
or the underground in UT was a darkworld since the only time we've seen a monster use theirs is in one
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Eveytime I've seen someone say you were supposed to see your reflection when the angel mural was hidden this is what appears in my head.

The "black mirror" effect has never happened on any computer I've ever had but it does happen on my switch so I imagine the theory comes entirely from console players.
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How can magic not exist when there's fucking ghost people who can possess objects? You're telling me that's not magic Toby?
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>>573004765
https://files.catbox.moe/0t6fv7.png
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>>573004863
what did they do that's so egregious
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>>573003861
cute girl
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Yeah but if we take Umineko into account, the Light World isn't real either it's a schizophrenic recounting of a tragedy and you can't change the ending because the tragedy already happened in real life.
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>>573003984
Deltarune but its Full Metal Alchemist with Dess being the dead mom and Asriel being a pile of dust and Kris losing parts of their body
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>>573004968
ghosts are just real dude
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The thing about Monsters in Deltarune is that unlike Undertale, Monsters are just people unless Toby finds it funnier that they're not people (hence Napstablook being a shit cop because he can't touch anything)
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>>573004237
>fuck
male!kris
>marry
ralsei
>kill
berdley (with a "fatal" spell so he just breaks a leg)
>bury alive
aqua (she will dig her way out)
>bury alive
susie (she will dig her way out)
>incinerate
noelle (she will freeze the flames)
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>>573004671
Can't rape the willing, and she even thanked us for the dicking.
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>>573004610
If youre tired then wake the fuck up.
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>>573004836
Then explain Mr. Bone Zone suddenly having it in Undertale, when as far as we know he's just as capable in DR because he still has his meta teleports
>>573004925
Even when they leave the underground sans still has his abilities, he walks back into the underground instead of to the right in true pacifist. Not to mention the Underground doesnt have the Dark World UI, it has Light World UI
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>>573004562
>SAY, "IT'S ONLY 2G"- CRAP, I MEAN, IT'S FOR FREE, FOR FREE! FORGET I MENTIONED G.
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>>573004889
This feels suspiciously Tasquefag's toilet-coded
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>>573004927
It happens on my big tv I use as a second monitor, but not on my main one. Would not recommend the side profile reflection of fat anon at his desk. 0/10
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>Magic doesn't exist
>Sans teleports 200 meters to the right
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>>573005001
And remember...
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>>573004462
does one of these exist for noelle or kris?
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>>573004720
Fave's account is suspended so they can't even do that and trying to appeal just gets more automated denial emails sent to them like how the Swatchlings ruthlessly kicked Spamton out of Queen's mansion repeatedly but FAVE ISN'T FUCKING SPAMMING HOLY FUCK
Fave found a whole Castle Town's worth of people online with the same issue but the Monstwitter staff don't FUCKING care
>>573004727
Fave can't follow privated Dragon Blazers fanartists with mirrors or proxies of Monstwitter
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>>573004270
Can you elaborate? ‘Suicidal cowboy’ is kind of a reach to me.
>>573004507
UTY still uses the Pacifism/Killing thing, so having that would probably make the former too hard. It also makes it way cooler when you finally do unlock it
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>>573005079
>Even when they leave the underground sans still has his abilities
Sans has always been an outlier. given the amount of mother references this chapter, old matpat might not have been wrong and san's shit is PSY instead of monster magic
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>>573003976
>god of hyperdeath noelle wouldn't look much like noelle anymore would it?
Obviously. But currently, she's not the Angel of the Prophecy. That may change.

>pic related
This could also be End of Evangelion (with a bit of Mother 3) all over again. Everyone in this world merged in the darkness, recreating some sort of abstract paradise, where characters can finally communicate at a primitive level, without the anxieties coming from having separate bodies, thus recreating alternate realities where these anxieties would not apply. The Angel can choose whichever of these realities they're satisfied with and be told to get the fuck out of Deltarune. Bravo Toberto.



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