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flopped
>>573003702until 1.6-7
LAST RITE!!!
>>573003872>end/ - Arknights: Endfield GeneralI fucked up please add the first slash on next thread
>>573003862I hope not but it's really not seeming good at the moment.Smaller maps each patch, less stuff to do
THE PROUD UNEMPLOYED will now make Umbral Endgame harder for the Casuals.on the next Survey.
Lifeng LoveLifeng Life
>>573004212camille is so lucky
>>573006035Camille is like her grandad giving her rides on his knee n candy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pEYR66y82w
Rossi's childlike body!
Do you guys have hobbies other than playing video games?
conquering brickylandimpregnating the lolisdrafting the shotas into bondage and slavery
>>573007063Yeah of course. I don't even play video games that much. Even shitposting about them is more of a hobby for me than playing them.
>>573007063shitposting
>>573007063gregposting
>>573007163Yakubian follower...
>>573007163Rossi only gets to watch since she's too old!
>>573007642Poors stay with poors
imagine copying endfield lol the system that is way too complex for the average joe to understand so they all shit on it
>>573007993its the best gacha in the market
>>573007993its funny because endfield is the only gacha that I have all banner characters as a F2Pit really filters retards and makes their brain go into rage mode
>>573007993did they copy urgents and dossiers too?
>>573007642>they always seem to have money for these booths and pay cosplayersDo any of these larpers know that this company has a successful game that serves as the cash cow that funds endfield
>>573007993they already backpedaled lol
Isn't endfield's gacha model better than Mihoyo and Kuro games in a vacuum?
>>573008736its better if it gives enough income
>>573007063i like to read
>>573008736Endfield's gacha system is the most brutal I've ever experienced in a gacha game. Which is strange because in theory there's not much to understand, just save 120 pulls and get what you want guaranteed. It's the how you get the pull currency and how much of it you need which makes it brutal, I guess. And with the amount of times I had to guarantee units, it feels like a total wasteland in between the guarantees. You get nothing until you get a little crumb of something you want.
>>573008736It's the only one where if you luck out and you want the weapon you have to keep pouring in more rolls that won't carry over to the next banner, so you're fucked if you fall into that category
>>573008736piss
>>573008736no
>>573008736### Why the math favors WuWa:1. The Weapon Banner Rule: A 100% flat guarantee on weapons saves you thousands of premium currencies over the long term compared to HSR's 75/25 or Endfield's non-carrying pity.2. Higher Income-to-Pity Ratio: WuWa yields more raw pulls per patch relative to its pity ceilings. You can mathematically secure a guaranteed character nearly half a patch faster than in HSR.3. Safety Net Flexibility: While Endfield technically features the lowest absolute ceiling for a single banner (120 pulls), its refusal to carry over that guarantee across banners punishes natural, casual pulling habits. WuWa offers the perfect middle ground: a low average cost (approx 82.5 pulls) backed by a safety net that never resets until you win.
>Surely the 20th survey will be the one they listen to!The raped general
loveydovey kisses and sex with carly
>>573008736Not really, as far as the character banner is concerned. Losing your 50/50 under the Hoyo system basically means you get to plan ahead, since the guarantee you gain from that lasts indefinitely, this also means that if you lose early, or get a double where the second high-rarity character is a standard, you basically cut the cost of what would be considered the "spark" in Endfield's terms way down.The weapon banners on the other hand all suck in their own, unique ways across the board
>>573008421kek
>>573008736people like to exaggerate on how shit it is until it’s time for them to face the absolute worst case on their own shitty little character pachinkos (don’t get me started on how miles better and how endfield shits all over the other gachas when it comes to weapon banners)
>>573007063Yeah I like playing tabletop RPGs, wargames, and card games.
>>573007063i like talking to chatbots
Shitposters like to say that nobody plays this game anymore aside from shills but like... Thats an awful lot of income and players for JUST shills don't you guys think?
>>573010743no
>>573007063I watch a lot kung fu movies
STREEEEAM
>>573011251>availableJust a video again?
>>573011362Always
>>573011251>companionship celebrationWhuzzat? Some funny codeword for half anni or something Chinese milestone thing?
>>573007063Martial ArtsCookingGoing for walks to cleanse the mindNipponese self-study and occasionally fan translation
>>573009494the base 6* rate for the weapon banner is 4% in endfield
>>573011251What does the 26 mean?
>>573011362>special programIt's a livestream. The videos are called dev logs.
>>573011550Yeah it's just a fancy name for half-anni.
>>573011362>>573011405No, it's a stream like 1.2.When it's a video it's called Version Preview. When it's a livestream it's called Special Program.
This is what Endfield needs
>>573012856i don't know what the FUCK is happening there but endfield is DONE
>>573012856this game is so doa what are they thinking
>>573012856Least blatant fetish
>>573012856>more button mash swapslop>with endfield's gachaDoA
>>573012856ok but what is it from
>>573012856My unc eyes are too old for this. Endfield is just right with the amount of stuff going on on screen
>>573013035Your typical giantess lesbian relationship.
>>573012856>huge boss in tiny claustrophobic-as arena WITH WALLS to get in the way of the camera if you're not careful
>>573013178>swapslopThis isn't really an insult anymore after endfield's combat system turned out worse than any swap-based combat game
>>573013509It didn't. We just need a photo event which takes advantage of the party members in the field and more characters with more elaborated animations.
>>573012856this shit look so bad, holy shit
>>573013787Your carly event?
>>573013509
>>573007063i read booksI just play endfield for the like 5 minute daily
>>573013947I mean photo event like zzz's, where take photos of the characters, combat, etc.
>>573013509all 3d action combat is hot dogshitI don't think there's any denying that anymore
>>573007063working extra shifts
Where are our swimsuits?
>>573014183will be revealed on the special program
>>573014170Hey, Sekiro was great
>>573008736>get the Character at 120 Pulls>get the same character AGAIN on the next Banner after 10 PullsL U C KY Y O U
>>573011251no IGN?
>>573014602nope
>>573014183>two characters elevated to feet girl>meanwhile endfield has none
>>573014183we will never get anything
Endbros, OG Arknights new unit mogs anything on Endfield. What's with the mid design we've been getting?
>>573015490thats just white arcane
>>573015490looks like that wuwa character I forgot the name
>>573015738awwwwww
>>573014502I meant gachas anon, there are good action games
>>573015608Arcane is just an AI copy of Feixiao. Endfield critical thinkers, not slurpers or HG cucksuckers, for the future of this game.
>New OG Arknights character>Looks like a WuWa characterThey got raped and mindbroken.
yep im thinking wuwon
>>573016139So did we just get rugpulled while lowlight laughs to the bank?
>>573015490whos this nigga
>>573015490>Blast casterLMAOOO
>>573016139this looks like shit, man...
>>573015490quercus (not) for some reason
>>573012856its over only azur promilia is left now
For me, it's Silver Palace
>>573016139I E2S1ed FeixiaoI am honorbound to Pot2 Arcane
>>573017262Where did her ears go????
>>573017262That's just Sigrid without the good stuff.
>>573008736I've never had any problems with it. But I'm not completely f2p, I buy monthly pass, battlepass and 10 pulls and 2k arsenal tickets pack every patch.
>>573018061yikes you actually spend money on this trash?
>>573011362Even patches are main story related and presented with a livestream.Odd patches are side stories and only given devlogs
>>573018061Same
>>573018131Nyes, I spent around 400$ on this game, mainly out of goodwill. My monthly expires in 16 days and I'll decide whether to continue supporting the game based on 1.4 content and 1.5 teaser.
>>573017262ayo I thought this game was for women, why does she have bouncing mega milkers?!
>>573018061I don't even buy the 10 pulls and 2k arsenals and I haven't had a problem either
>>573018260man. I did the monthly card and the $0.99 whatever starter pack at launch and spent the month counting down the days before the card would expire because I hated logging on and felt like I had to while it ran
>>573011550Arknights has "Celebrations" for Anniversaries and half-anniversaries, "Carnivals" for summer events and "Festivals" for CNY events. All of those offer a double rateup limited banner. Could that be that Arcane is on the same banner as Proxy and Proxy is a true limited 6*?
>>573018462I'm not even logging in when I don't want to. I think I skipped like 20 days of monthly logins over the course of 6 months
>>573018476They should do a Rossi/hebe proxy rate up and call it the Cunnyval.
>>573018635If they ARE going to introduce true limited banners and don't want to be retarded about it, they should make it so you can only get spooked by previous limiteds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G3Qm_CV0Eoits up
>>573018476true limited sounds idiotic
>>573019015So far all Endfield limiteds have been virtually true limiteds as there has been no proper rerun banner yet
>>573019263>as there has been no proper rerun banner yetLaevatain/Gilberta already got a rerun
>>573019321It's AK joint operation banner, not a proper rerun
>>573019389You say that like there's any precedent for what a "proper rerun" is supposed to look like in Endfield. For all we know, the Joint-Op format may be/become the norm here
>>573019263exactly, but read what I was replying toadding another tier above the already limited characters and calling it ""true limited"" is idiotic when, unlike ogak, endfield doesn't add characters to the standard pool after their rate up.
I was watching fobmasters anime expo stream and whenever Endfield was brought up the chat would spam Eosfield and Bedgefield. His community are hardly kurobots and find Saintontas annoying.It's over, even the gacha normies hate endfield.
>>573015490Looks like HSR slop
current endfield score:game - 4 no - 1
>>573015490AFUCKINGSERVAL
>Five whole agonising days to waitaaaiiiiiiiieeeeeeee
>>573008421Of course they did. When the twitter replies have people counting the hard pity gem count, they literally did picrel.I hate modern gacha players who got into gacha from hoyoslop, forcing every one of them to think that 160 is the perfect number for a single pull of gacha.
>>573017082True to modern Arknights kit design, they made a new OP for an archetype with a gimmick and remove said gimmicky gimmick. Blast casters are all about positioning and maps but this NotQuercus shoots out laser that bounces between other operators like the light in Lingering Echoes
>>573022370Isn't that just positioning even more stuff?
>4 hour thread>100 postsI feel bad for Arknights for having to support this disaster
>>573022370Eh, she still kinda has the gimmick, you just get to play with it using her summons. She still attacks only in straight lines and her devices might cost a lot (like 8 DP)
>>573022370i see...
have you broken your limits yet?i haven't, but this did take about 5 hours with all the cheesehate how useless pot5 wep5 rossi was just a golem destroyer desu
>>573022370I think unironically new blast caster might utilize the archetype unique feautre better than Ifrit. It's more of a gimmick/mechanic creep. Ifrit = Find an Ifrit lane and setup an incineration chamber. New blast caster = set up the operators and summons in a smart way so her beam covers the lanes you need to be covered. Topology-wise they're still the same. The attack range is still the line that can't be split that travels in a single direction.
>>573022593I need to update the website...Add -CCEFB if you want your clear to be featured.
>>573022787what website are you talking about?
>>573022863Check the OPhttps://end-cc.github.io/cc/?s=beta
Oh yeah, since it's a livestream that means they'll be revealing a new set of characters for 1.5 and beyond. Curious to see if there will be a reconvener or if they'll stick to new characters.
>>573022915my clear is not meaningful
>>573022593the risk 54 clear brings rossi only to one shot the final boss lol
AP and SP will kill off this game.
>>573023267Good. Lowlight can't afford to keep burning budget on this failed experiment.
>>573023237i will probably try it at some point, though i found the 3rd wave boss golem way more dangerous
>>573023056Its the only way to bring back playersFor reconveners that would make sense if they put them in the china plot would be Lava
>>573023237Is rossi the playable character or ranged?
>>573023531nah hell no, her combo would get you killed on puddles and attacks
>>573023531https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=005_5v869EE
Do we know who is coming in 10 days yet or no
>>573024683NoI’ll be very surprised if it isn’t Arcane and idol, with maybe the Sui proxy if they’re feeling generous
>>573007063Master baiting
>>573024898Alesh is that you?
>>573024683100% Arcanethe question is if we will get a welfare 5* for halfanni
Just lookin' for a dedicated Leek team support
>>573025729hope so, my pulls are saved for her
>>573022461Our "half anniversary" will be the killing blow
>>573025729>welfare>5*slol. you'll get 10 free rolls and thats it
>No more IGN stream>Same time for everyone That wasn't so hard, was it? Don't make us rape and gape you again, Rowright.
>>5730274951.2 didn't have the IGN stream though.And 1.3 didn't have a stream either, it had a video devlog
>>573027587All of them are video devlogs. You think this shit is done live?
>>573027852No? But devlogs and streams are presented differently. Devlogs just tell you stuff while HG streams have shit like ALL, in-universe ads, roadmaps, etc
>>573014183lmao, the dude who said that every Arknights swimsuit alt uses the same anti coom methods (shit angles, drowning in the background) was right.
>>573027935They didn't even do the in-universe ads for 1.0 stream. We're not getting that much soul It'll just be the generic info dump like always
>already doompostingIt's a miracle this game hasn't eos'ed yet.
>>573028412>doom during homo banners
>>573028110Retard? Both 1.0 and 1.2 streams had in-iniverse ads
Nigga doing his part to make sure the game continues to die a spiritual and financial death. What about you? Have you submitted your feedback?
>>573028867Where in the 1.2 stream? I'm looking through and finding nothing
>>573028412miracle? it's just tuesday doomniggy-san. The game isn't going anywhere for the next 5 years
>>573029203Kinda 33:50, but I guess that was a false memory for 1.2
>>573029183Nyes, my feedback is very simillar.
>>573029183those first few sentences would be an improvement I guess but it wouldn't fix the combatit'd be hard to make the combat worse honestly, so pretty much anything is an improvement
>>573029183He's just asking for a roguelike mode that the likes of hsr and zzz already have, it's nothing groundbreaking.
Sucking up to them in surveys doesn't give you good luck btw
>>573027587The raped
i asked them to copy genshin and add yuri in the survey
fuuuaaark 10 hours of listening to this song wasn't enough i need to beak the limits of 50+
Sending pigshit to HG office with no particular demands
What gugu'd the gaga?
wuwa
Anniversary soon.. I'm hyped again
Huge crowd!
>>573030739Nothing new will happenEven an IS teaser will end up 1.6 time
>>573031094The game flopped so hard it's unreal. NTE came out around the same time from a company infamous for making ToF which flopped so hard and it still has more fans, players, and online interactions compared to Endfield which came from a well respected game company.
>>573031094they spend so much money on marketing and irl events and the game they're advertising is as dry as my sex life
>>573031254raping that mintrape rape rapewhile everyone watches
>>573031254tried NTE and it was the worst slop i have ever touchedendofield CC on the otherhad was the best endgame mode i have ever played
Are you ready for the FACTORY summer event?We're gonna have gas extraction and gas pipelines hahaha faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaartttttttttttHaha imagine the stench!!!!!!!! Haha FAAAAAAAAAAAAART production
>>573031928sounds kino
>yeah we're not changing direction at all and anyway guys, have some more etchspace and another cooking event hahaI am going to be irrationally mad.
>>573031761Oh so that's the context for this Minto line
>>573032019You forgot the PHOTOGRAPHY eventHERE: take 3 pictures of random shitSugoi sugoi sugoi sugoi
>>573032019i wish they had more etchspaceit's one of the few fun things in the game
>>573007642Endfield is the Morton Salt of video games: no one cares about it, everyone uses it.
>>573031254Raped by Porsche
Official ship.
>>573031254wtf two Haroris
>>573031254Only one guy showed up to the Endfield booth.
>>573033461that was me. i am john endfield.
>>573008736yes unless you are a gambling addict that needs to roll on every banner
>>573027946It doesn't matter either way because the actual unit is a chibi and this is what you're paying for.
>>573033906Normal people roll on banners not because they are gamling addicts but because they want the content.
>>573031254>Endfield which came from a well respected game company.huh?
>>573034042>
>>573034042no, not really. the "building pity" culture really is about gambling. kind of strange you are trying to pretend otherwise on a gambling simulator general.
https://x.com/melonnyinyi/status/2073640055571354037Dammit HG, give my boy melon some official Arknights work already
>>573034062
>a gambling addict that needs to roll on every banner>kind of strange you are trying to pretend otherwise on a gambling simulator general.So they made a gambling simulator that doesn't appeal to the gamblers. Kind of bad decision no? But then the same game is also an open world action game that doesn't appeal to those people either. HuhIt''s almost like Arknights was actually a fluke or they just had no competition for an anime tower defense mobile game.
>>573034224He's thinly saying that his kind are what's considered "normal", and that the primary content in all his gacha games IS the rolling for characters.
>>573008736In theoryIn reality we're lacking a few of the important things which enable 3D gachas to have 0.7% rates, like guarantee carry over and sparks not auto-consuming your rarity progressOther aspects like expiring rolls is also cringe and an outdated system in terms of gachas
>>573034063Well respected "bot farm" I should say
>>573027395Giving out an operator for free on half anni would be the best way to counter the "muh gacha system" doomposting
>>573034224What do you even mean by building pity?
>>573034382Some retards here think it's good to gatekeep no rate up carry over for some unknown reason. It's literally a gacha game, people want to you know... use that system?? Not wait till 120 to "buy" the opLike those retards underestimate just how many players will roll asap as soon as they get any currency. They can't do that here or it's all deleted. We're losing/lost a lot of players from this system alone I bet, imagine how many quit back in 1.0 after losing 50/50 on lae to find out their progress got deleted. How the fuck did HG think this was a good idea when they've been catering the design for said players in every other system
anyone here play this game with ayn thor? I wonder if its playable with decent graphic and fps (for 1.x patch)
>>573018925300 pulls ready
>>573034518That doesn't solve anything. That's like saying 1.2 was good because it gave us a free monthly pass. You just got given a lollipop to distract you while your arm is still broken It's essentially the same as "rossi/zhuang/sui proxy/lappland reconvener will save the game". It'll save that patch maybe but then it goes back to being dead because nothing else is fixed. We all saw how hyped zhuang was since launch, and then how much a shitshow it became. Handing out freebies or desired banners doesn't keep the retention, it just makes the game look like a pathetic begging gacha doing poorly... >PLEASE COME PLAY LOOK FREE THINGS
>>573034382>Arknights was actually a fluke, they just had no competitionThat's exactly how it is. In CN they had no competition for gachas. All the gachas there came from Japan at that time, with a delay of 6 months to 2+ years. Then covid happened and it helped AK grow the png collecting cult even further. Nobody plays it for the gameplay or the story and it's only in China that it has some apparent traction simply because they have 1.5 billion people there.Now with Endfield you can see the true nature of HG. They can't fraud their way into success anymore. There's a ton of competition and a ron of expectations from players nowadays.The two other games HG released are Ex Astris and Popcom which are literal who flops. For a company with over 1500 employees it's pretty insane to not be able to produce anything even remotely playable.
>>573029183Unfortunately the game's combat is dogshit so adding more combat content won't fix anything. Game is rotten fundamentally.
>>573035049you're right... I need to uninstall NOW
I still don't get why you are so retarded and talk in circles about this game being doomed, needing to change and so on.If you don't like it, just go? Who's stopping you.There's no way you developed sunk cost already. Stop being entitled whiny little bitches that think everything has to revolve around your opinion, and it NEEDS to be more of a Hoyo clone or something.Complaining is one thing, but permanently repeating yourself like a broken record leads nowhere. Just leave and be happy playing what you enjoy. Play a game you like. Watch a show you like. Hang out with friends. Do something productive for a spell. You can do so much better than post your hatred about the game for the 1000ths time yet still continue to stick around, possibly play the game and be angry for no reason other than your own dumbness.
Why aren't you guys talking about gugugaga?
>>573031094Generational fumble. Reminder that this game was as big as Genshin in month 1.
>>573034803Wuwa literally had to give out characters when it was starting>We all saw how hyped zhuang was since launch, and then how much a shitshow it became. Her banner was 6 dead weeks, they were retarded for making it so long and not putting Mifu earlier
>>573035049The cough was 9 months after global on AK, and 15 months for CN. That wasn't it. Genshin sucked up all the normies then AK simply hit a niche that worked maybe it was lucky, , maybe it might be because TFT got popular around that time and it's a similar format. We just dunno but they've got a consistent fanbase ever sinceEF is just another one of many 3D combat gachas being pumped out now. They tried to sell it as a factory sim but the factory is honestly a nothing burger here..
Can't exercise self control and save? Get lost. No pity carry over is fine, there's no need to be rolling when you don't actually need to.The things that actually need sorting out is stuff like the unnecessary extraneous features like the +10 (doesn't count towards pity) and dossier nonsense. After that, they need to sort out the fact that you never feel like you win with the gacha. Even when you get lucky, you lose in some way. Getting the rate-up early not only eats your 120 guarantee, it also eats your 80 soft pity AND you're shit out of luck for arsenal tickets (hitting the rate-up early should at least not eat your soft pity and also come with a guaranteed free copy of their sig weapon). They end up wasting the potential euphoric dopamine kick from those once-in-a-while lucky breaks which keeps people coming back.They've also explicitly put questions in the surveys that ask why you want/don't want to roll for pots. Fixing up the above would be a good start in making people feel more inclined to.
>>573017262I thought this game was gonna flop but now I'm not so sure anymore.
>>573035049>Kalshit post>look inside>ita shit
>>573035049Pretty much this. Hypergrift has always been incompetent bums. OG Arknights was just a massive fluke.
>>573035259>https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9743-histrionic-personality-disorderGoes hand-in-hand with the 3D gacha genshin generation
>>573035259Come on, you already know how this works. They can't allow ANYONE to like or be excited for the game. Shitposting and doomposting waves always arrive on the eve of new content/new content being announced (no prizes for noticing what just got confirmed for happening on Friday)
>>573035310>Wuwa literally had to give out characters when it was startingWe also got a 6* selector in 1.0 if you've already forgotten?Also it was because wuwa's launch reception was shit. The difference there the devs actually fixed the complaints early on. It's where the "devs listened" meme comes from. Even ZZZ reworked their game early on. We've gotten absolutely no meaningful changes so far after 6 months. All the complaints about the combat content/factory content/gacha systems/everything is still untouched, the devs haven't even acknowledged any of it, let alone fixed it like the other bad reception games. Just small QoL like bulk artificing/crafting which should've been in from the startHanding out free shit only actually works if you're also addressing the other issues. The "free stuff" is the apology, not the reason to keep you playing.
>>573035605The only people that are excited for this shit are paid at this point
>>573008736>Isn't endfield's gacha model better than Mihoyo and Kuro games in a vacuum?Yes but the process of getting enough Origeometry for banner is fucking brutal so naturally F2Poor quit this game.
>>573035669This. Retards don't realize that free gibs are useless if the game sucks. The only good patch this game had was 1.0. It's been purely downhill since then.
>Peek at and scroll through EN-side of Endfield xwitter>It literally reads like all the doomposts here/vg/ has really fallen far if we're at the point of being different but same-same as xwitter.
>>573035669Post your CC clear
>>573035927Maybe everyone is just sick of Lowlight's shit
>>573036164just end...
>>573035927it's okay to shit on gweilos but the fact is even china has abandoned endfield which is wild because we are currently playing the most beautifully crafted china map.
>>573035049Pretty much. Western AK fans like to pretend it's like this massively popular juggernaut, but even the chinks know its essentially a small but very autistic fanbase combined with a horrendous gacha that makes money for HG. The combination of a dedicated fanbase that you force into participation and spending with a putrid gacha system is a good system to luck into success. See also FGO. It doesn't work anymore, you need to have locked down your player base half a decade ago because you can't attract players with systems where you set currency on fire these days.Endfield flopping just makes sense. HG doesn't actually know how any of this works.
/vg/ has fallen if you can openly admit you browse shitter, and not get shit on as you would saying you browse r*ddit Why do we even care about the opinion of someone like that? Go back
>>573036164Notice how the majority of them in this image are outside the separating belt? Kek
>>573036113endfield really raped this nigga mind
>>573036113This is how that retarded googoo meme started btw. Rowright really thought his astroturfed garbage would make the game popular.
The worst economy we've ever had
man I'd like to try a lot of different comps for CC but I just don't have enough built characters and I don't have any essence anymore and I'm short on components for artificing....I hate this
>>573007642So... Just how many people has he actually talked to about Endfield with in the last six months, and just how many booths has Endfield had in said six months.Like yeah, it would be stupid not to do marketing in your first year, and most people DON'T actually jump onto the latest big game. Neither of these things is actually particularly strange.
gryfter melty
>>573036365Didn't help that all the argument about defending Endfield boils down to>But muh Arknights!
>>573036519blud thought he'd made the new doro kek
>>573036528My alt teams only have lvl2 gear. I've got essences but they're not fully maxed out. It's very cheap to lvl2 artifice gear, essences need more dedication though and sucks if you don't already have a 3 line. Something like 3/3/2 or 4/4/2 is cheap enough there though. I just 1/1/4 my support weapons if they're skill reliant
>>573007993I think the part that offends me the most is making 1 pull cost 360 gems... Make the math something trivial to do in your head, jeez. I know why they don't, it's easier to obscure how much a character will cost you that way (be it in pulls, or in buying premium currency) - but it's SUCH a dick move.
Literally started >>573029183They just clocked in to shit up the place and shill their twitter accounts/posts
Removing factorytrash and remaking combat system would save the game btw
>>573007993Another DOA gacha. Imagine copying Shitfield's terrible system.
Facial finish
>>573015490Wait, is that the Saintess from Yakuza Reincarnation?
>quest to upgrade the camp to the last level>some dragged out chinkslop fighting dogshit monster and npcs screaming about getting attacked by monsters like I give a shitholy shit fuck that let me skip the ENTIRE quest why would I give a shit about this genshin tier quest fuck these chink niggers let me upgrade my camp and call it a day no need to sour my experience with their abysmal writing
>>573015490was this anime any good?
all ogACK uncs kyses and gtfo
>>573007642>>573034490>>573036113>>573036618Why are they jealous about our shitty game?
>>573037007You only exist because we allow it endbab
>>573015490Add Mythra from Xenoblade to the pile of what this shit is ripping off too lmao
>>573036164That's a huge crowd
>>573037252Deserved. 6 months of dogshit content. Glad to see they're reaping what they sowed.
>>573037252KEKAROOOOOOOOOO
>>573037252
please no more humiliation rituals...
>>573037252I'll tune in to the livestream. If it's another dogshit "story" patch with nothing to do I'm out.
38cope, that was the event at launch
>>573037538AI pic, nice try.
>>573029183this survey was the most critical I've been on them, I basically had nothing good to say except for cc
Now try saying it again without sounding like an ESL
One downside to how they regularly make little changes to the map (like removing that cargo from the field depot on that narrow passageway - you know the one I'm talking about, on the upper level near where you take the picture of depot plants) kinda makes you feel like you're developing schizophrenia. Like, is this REALLY different from how you remember it? Or is it just your mind playing tricks on you?
>>573037752I've given it three stars because of the time limit
>>573037713Funny, I gave them glowing responses on most everything, but mentioned they could up the release pace a bit... Oh, but only 4 stars for Mi Fu's voice actor this time. Nice voice, but her cadence and emphasis don't really work for EN...
>>573037621
>>573037621it looks too shit quality for AI
>>573037538Day 1 morning picture devs curated pictures vs. Day 2, still popping off. Fresh from random Twitter.
>>573037986Go back to your thread, wuwajeet. You're pathetic.
Wow, all these Twitter screenshots are making me not want to play the game anymore, and instead start playing another game.
>>573038085Unironically most people are fucking tools and tribal retards who such marketing actually works on though.
I don't really know how many people are going to their booth, and I don't care - but it's trivial for anyone halfway-motivated to take a few pics of a booming crowd during peak hours, or empty spaces when everyone's catching lunch. It'd have to be an extreme success or extreme flop for it to be otherwise.
OMFG, we need more tutorials in Valley 4... I just saw a person who honest-to-god was growing sandleaf in the plots instead of using planters and seeders...
>>573037795I remember people missing the entire upper part of the first valley zone, above your first AIC because the fence silently got removed after you complete a quest or something.
>>573037986>l-loook, we're super successful, hypershit's twitter said so!people really believe these marketing mouthpieces huh?
>>573038359Reading comprehension problems or just ESL?
>>573037986>No one cosplayed rossifailed cosplay event
>>573038342That happened to me as well; didn't notice it was open until I got that salesmen quest...
>>573038456she's behind the booth being raped
>>573038437Sorry but I'm old enough where corpo marketing doesn't do anything for me. Show me a vlog from some random fat otaku if you want it to be legitimate.
>>573038456Makes sense, nobody small enough or cute enough.
I legit asked for more Factory gameplay also making the factory more complex and convolutedI asked for more photography and cooking eventsAlso more malesYou are welcome
>>573038537>reads "devs curated" as "l-loook, we're super successful"
>>573037986WU WON
>>573038643>Also more malesit's too late bro, all the male enjoyers left months ago. camille is some disgusting twinkslop too. there's literally nothing in this game for male enjoyers.
>>573038437Apparently it's a bit of both
>>573038664>W℅Wa: CEO bought a plane ticket from Shanghai to go to Anime Expo fully incognito. Fully passionate and not scared to interact with fans.>Endfield: Lowlight is busy getting another facelift and buttock in an undisclosed location.Know the difference.
>>573038643We need decimal ratios and crafting times. And more byproducts that you need to reuse and not just dump off like sewage from cuprium
>>573038924I regret dropping wuwa early on. They are getting pampered so much I'm not afraid to say it is the best player friendly and fun gacha out there right now.
>W℅Wa>The symbol ℅ (U+2105) is the ligature for "care of", primarily used in Indian postal
>>573038924Something about Solon's face is just... Offputting. Lowlight is MUCH cuter. Maybe it's that weird-ass smile of Solon's?
>>573038643>I legit asked for more Factory gameplayBased. I want trains autism. I want craftable oroberyls.
>>573039036Kek, brown hours
>>573039060One is natural and it's off putting to you because you're too used to anime faces. The other one looks cute to you because it has been artificially edited using AI to make them anime-like.
>>573039076>I want craftable oroberyls.This. It's time we had our own EL TIRANO.
>>573039076I don't know why AK has trades for gold to LMD and originium shards into orundum and yet our factory has no way to turn materials into oroberyl
>>573039036LMAO
Does Endfield flopped?
>Does Endfield flopped?
>pick up new 3D gacha>only been out a year but there are like 4 endgame modes, 20 different combat contents, 4/5 casual modes and a wealth of story, slice-of-life, and other mechanics>endfield is at half a year>barely has a single endgame mode and it sucks dick anywaythey need to address this fr
>>573039249Nyes. Many people are saying it's EOSfield now.
Potential game
I thought ZZZ was the most mismanaged 3d gacha but this game takes the cake.At least Silver Palace (another disaster in the making) will divert the humiliation ritual for a while.
>>573039434I don't know if you're trolling or not but this was already addressed.
>>573039632>but this was already addressed.no it wasnt the game still has jack shit to do besides chores
>>573039725Camera events are content
>>573039725yes it wasdevs already told us about the plans
>>573039630>At least Silver Palace (another disaster in the making) will divert the humiliation ritual for a while.People said the same thing about NTE, instead it piled onto the humiliation.
>>573039434>and it sucks dick anywayNah. CC is fun. I'm still playing it.
>>573039990Shitters can't into CC.
>>573015490>stealing from ZZZShameless, this is just Alice. But ZZZ is a better game after all.
what the fuck is silver palace, this shit came out of seemingly nowhere
>>573039990Can't wait for HG to release the participations stats and see that only 0.2% of the player base got above the bare minimum risk, just like in AK.
>>573031094>only 2 paid cosplayers standing around and a random uninterested coupleGRIM
>>573039903>devs told about plansWhoa, then the game is good now!
>>573040458no it's not, only that it was already addressed
>>573008736In theory, yes. The problem with Endfield isn't the gacha, it's the character models getting censored before release.
>>573011550Meanwhile its sister game just says outright that it's a half-anni, I don't know what's with Endfield and their pretentious wording for this big event
We shall wait in 5 days for the thread to recover or get shitposted to hell again.
>>573040625>1 day after Endfield livestreamYou can only imagine how much Lowlight paid Yostar to not overlap their streams lmao.
A single patch isn't enough to fix this game. It is fundamentally aimless and flawed.
>>573040096I remember seeing it about 6 months ago... And thinking at the time that it seemed terribly generic and forgettable. Not surprising you don't remember it.
>>573040730>recoverlmaothese niggers will shitpost no matter what
>>573040730[other game] is getting their 1.2 in 3 days....
>>573007063I spend much more time reading and writing webnovels than I do on vidya, honestly.
>Make a good game (objectively)>Spend a hundred trillion dollars on advertising, art, music, events, collabs, YouTubers, cosplayers >People love it >Huge success >Forget to make more than 3 months worth of content Sasuga Rowrighto sama
>>573041129...Why are they all in their underwear, tho.
>>573041402Wretch build
>>573041381They seemed to legitimately think that nobody would really be interested in their game at launch... Basically everything about their launch strategy makes sense if they thought that only the die-hard fans would try it out in the first year.
>>573040730POV: you tell a shitposter to go back
>>573041129I should've started playing NtE instead of Endfield... Now the collab and Nanally are both gone so it's too late to start.
>>573041381>Make a good game (objectively)I don't see any game personally.Lowlight doesn't know what a game is. He thinks that having a UI, a character to control, some text, some music and some gambling is enough to make a "game".
>>573041524>They seemed to legitimately think that nobody would really be interested in their game at launchreally? game had massive hype surrounding it due to being in the oven for such a long time...also the launch was massive.
>>573041630Nanally is old and busted. And dead.
>>573041871The launch wasn't massive. And the only reason it had any presence on launch is because of the Arknights brand.
>>573041874Huh, dragon girl can run on walls too or is it some bug? I thought it was Nanally's gimmick.
Explain how you guys are straight?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbv3OjSIqu8
>there's only guys playing EF
>>573041917>the launch wasn't massvie1 7 3 MILLIONMight have been the literal biggest gacha launch ever trading blows with G*nshinbut yeah, they really didn't expect people to like the game
>>573042075Dragon girl can wallrun.Nanally sticks to surfaces and can walk on walls and ceilings.
>>573041874>getting on top of a buildingendfield could never
>>573042191>1 7 3 MILLIONhere we go again...
>>573042225Do you even play the game?
>>573042309Endfield could NEVER.
>>573041871Yeah, which was a complete misread on HG's part - bafflingly so. I mean, I can see how it happened - you're making a game that you expect will alienate a significant portion of the market, so you decide not to get your hopes up... But it still meant burying their heads in the sand as to how much buzz there was around the game.Once the launch was a success beyond anything they hoped for, though, it was too late to course correct. You can't just dump your first six months content into the next patch, after all, even if you'd really need to in order to accommodate important elements you were expecting you should role out slower during the original "build up interest" plan.
>>573042357>C-Moon
any chances Hypergryph improve the odds of the 50/50? this is like the only Gacha game where i consecutively lost the 50/50 4 times straight across multiple banners. if i lose the 5th time im gonna drop this hot garbage.might come back if they make gugugaga canon though
>>573042357>>Endfield could NEVER.>Posts literally the same shit
>>573042191>had to release official numbers to calm down people being scared of flop launchLmao, if hoyo released their official numbers in billions of revenue, not a single gacha would ever recover
>>573042370>you're making a game that you expect will alienate a significant portion of the marketThis is some insane cope.You are basically saying the devs made a bad game on purpose.
>>573015490SEXOOOOOO. Can i get her if I start now?
>>573042456they should do thatwhy wouldn't they? the poor devs actually have to animate cutscenes now that there's competition, dawei should relieve them
>>573042423With how things are going, I think at the very least they might lower the pity ceiling. Given it's Lowlight, probably to 100.
this game can make 2m on the jeetcharts and still won't EoS btw
>>573042456>"official" numbershere we go again...
>>573040096The next best gacha
>>573042592>still won't EoSwith the level of AD-spending I'm not so suretoo bad it doesn't seem to pay offor maybe it does but no one stick around
>>573042598>here we go again...here we go again...
>>573042464No one sane expects a factory game to have mass market appeal. What they THOUGHT was that it would earn them a dedicated niche whose devotion they could count on while they included enough other charm points that that a portion of the mass market would try it anyway - a repeat of what they pulled with Arknights.Instead, the mass market flocked to the game anyway despite all reason - and the game just wasn't ready for normies yet. It will be in a year, you can tell from what experiments they're running and features they're adding... But they just weren't expecting the normies to show up yet, and don't have the kind of recurring systems that normies expect and rely on.
>>573042598>>573042732
>>573042836I agreeIt's likely that they're thinking "shit, we can't make arknights 2, there is no fucking way that we can make a hit like arknights again and we can't do something that will cannibalize the current arknights since it's so profitable, time for a new niche"
I'm enjoying NTE btw
Every upcoming gacha other than Varaspura looks like shit imma be honest. This genre is doomed.
Too many knife-eared bitches in this game.
>>573042940Same. Endfield could never.
>>573042967I believe the proper term for them is "devils", anon.
>>573042836You are just coping. First cope is thinking that EF is a factory game, when in reality the factory is just a minigame you can easily skip.The current state of the game is not because it's niche, it's because it has absoluely no appeal besides the Arknights brand. There's nothing that would make people play EF instead of other games.
>>573042957Ananta is the best next option of the upcoming ones, but it's pretty much a GTA6 of gachas meme of never ever. I'm still surprised Azur Promilia ended up looking so generic in beta after the trailer.
>>573043134Ananta isn't even real gacha anymore desu. The genre is doomed, and honestly? good riddance
>>573043134It will be more like GTA Online as a service then a actual gacha tho.
>>573043098It's not just devils who have knife-ears though
>>573042940It's fun for like a monthUntil it's not
>>573043286>gacha>genreIt's a monetization system, not a genre. That people keep conflating the two are a significant part of what's wrong in modern games making use of gacha systems - both from a design perspective, and consumer expectation perspective.
>>573043529a game for one month
>>573043529it stays fun if you don't take the font collection too seriously. It's a single player game you are not racing against anyone but yourself.
>>573043617Mora than any AAA title would provide.
>>573043418A sign of devil blood, no doubt, thus making them no different than devils themselves.
>>573043615it's both a genre and a monetization model. "Gacha games" is a very distinct type of games that tend to be similar to each other. There are many other kinds of games that you wouldn't really call a traditional gacha game that does infact use gacha as a monetization model, even the main one.
>>573043130>there’s nothing that would make people play EF instead of the other gamesthat’s where you’re wrong thou, you’re coping if you think so btw
>still bothering with a bad faith doomkekwell, the ppm at least...
>>573043734I'm pretty sure every single gacha is in GAAS genre, than one that defines daily chores, and being reminded you can spend to either gain items/characters or speed up the gameplay. By payment models differ for gachas with percentage based acquisition instead of market purchases.
>>573043638Can you fuck the giantess?
>>573043932is GAAS not a model as well?
>>573043709Canonically inaccurate
>>573043769I'm stating facts. People who still stick around don't even know what they are waiting for.They are just waiting for something to happen.Surely something interesting will happen in the next patch!
>>573043615>It's a monetization system, not a genre.It's a genre where the entire game is built around gambling (rewards, progression, the content itself, etc).A game like CS has loot boxes but it's not a gacha.
>>573043638the forced multiplayer events made me uninstall
>>573043286Gachas are fun though. Long term resource management and gamba. It's dogshit if you buy your way out though I guess. It's at its most fun when you're just a monthly fag.It's just a shame that every gacha turned into bad actionslop these days though. Gachas are better when they're turn based niggas in a row games.
>>573044064>Surely something interesting will happen in the next patch!Duh, more content.
>>573044064>new characters>upcoming events (like I waited for CC)>the story, believe it or not, it's still decent at times and has some of the better presentation in the genreyou did not, in fact, speak any fact at all. You can say the same for all the games because no one fucking knows what theyr'e waiting for in most games>but le leaksthey just move from waiting for new content to waiting for new leaks
The problem with Endfield other than bland combat is the pitiful amount of content. We're 6 months in and there's been almost nothing new added. CC is the only noteworthy thing in 6 months. Kinda crazy.
>>573043734>"Gacha games" is a very distinct type of games that tend to be similar to each other.Indeed, and that is a problem - take LADS, for example. It's a high-budget game with a 3D action system and sells stories with high production values. Now take Random Otome Game 23 - a PNG collector with no meaningful gameplay. Both of these are gacha games, and copy significant portions of the the gacha model from one another... But if you take a step back, that makes no sense at all! A game selling nothing but PNGs should differ significantly from a game selling a fuckton of other stuff, and which has meaningful gameplay. Every card won has dramatically different implications, on balance and on resources necessary to make it. Yet somehow, Infold has failed to understand this obvious lesson, content to stick to a content production schedule that works for a much lighter game - and somehow, players base their understanding of rates and odds on games with wildly different values.There's a lot of different ways to monetize a game. Companies should be more willing to experiment with what makes sense for their game, and players should be more willing to tolerate such experiments.
>>573044434yeah they need to get IS out asap or it's over. I'd rather they didn't release that shitty roguelike mode as is from beta though
>>573044064I mean, I'm sticking around to seal the Wuling Very Large Rift. The entire point of the Wuling chapters?
>>573044257>You can say the same for all the games because no one fucking knows what theyr'e waiting for in most gamesPeople do know what to expect and what to look forward to based on what they've already experienced.What did people experience so for far in EF, after almost 6 months?
imaging being such a raging homosexual you pretend to play a gacha you don't like to constantly whine about it instead of using that time to play a gacha you like and fap to the girls in it
>>573044434They've added new areas and story every month so far...
>>573044713a drip fed zone over a month and a half in green WULANG
>I'm so horny>btw did I tell you straight and horny I am?>haha I'm so normal and hornnnnnnyyyyy!
>>573044737Chex
>>573044737The girls in LADS get next to no screentime, though.
>>573044854>>573044737they hate Endfield because their game doesn't have Chexit's really that simple
remove factorycringe
aiiiieeeesave me oferton
>>573044858>girlsthere are other girls in that other than just the MC? no wonder the femcels are seething about it, jealousy makes women go crazy
>>573044774Even as salvage enjoyer it just doesn't have enough variety, I like the game mode but there's literally no point to do it after like 5 runs each patch. The ceiling of rewards is so low. They were too scared to add some infinite reward loop, so they just abandoned it.I feel like they could've easily tweaked it into a decent enough state, but it's too late to do small adjustments.
>>573045129salvage is just not meant to be a replayable mode from what I can tell
>>573045129>so they just abandoned it.They are literally working on it though, was confirmed months ago.
>>573045230>They are literally working on it thoughCool. Should be fun when it gets overhauled in 2029 (lol)
>>573041381>WuWa laughed at for being 'another genshin clone'>big launch flops hard because of god awful story, overly wordy dialogue, and multiple glitches/errors>makes double what endfield makes>NTE openly being laughed at and called a flop before launch>whole debacle with NTE vs Ananta too>has whole AI content controversy to boot>makes double what endfield makes>endfield, largest and most anticipated gacha game release since ZZZ>flopping
>>573045307every game must flop before they can top chartsit is known
This guy actually went to AX btw
>>573045307>largest and most anticipated gacha game release since ZZZSource?Barely anybody was waiting for gacha factorio other than Arknights cultists.
>>573045307Good games rape.Bad games get raped.It's that simple. No amount of "muh niche" and "muh passion project" and "we built it wrong on purpose" copes will chnage that fact.
>>573045307>zzz huge hype>flops>endfield huge hype>flops>azur promilia huge hype>being reworkedi'm noticing something
>>573045389>>573037008
>>573045427it was by virtue of how dead the gacha scene was. The only noteworthy release since ZZZ were likeFucking CZN (bombed, niche)Stella Sora (bombed)Chibi fuckers (niche)
>>573045569>laughing at a flop = jealousMindbroken
>>573045616I don't see any laughing, just someone so jealous they gotta spread misinformation... heh...
>>573045389So, like, who is he anyway? I don't do twitter, so his handle means nothing to me.
>>573045727a no one for no game
>>573045727Just a random. He just pointed out that the Endfield booth is empty
>>573045575If we're calling Stella Sora "noteworthy", there have been dozens of other noteworthy games since ZZZ.Which just goes to support your claim of how empty the window's been since then, I suppose.
>>573045790empty?
>>573045790The fuck are people posting literal twitter randos for, I thought he was some kind of e-celeb...
>>573045918do you like to suck e-celeb cock or?
>>573045963Of course he does. He plays an Arknights game
Good morning, the worst gacha on the market
>>573046216Morning saar!
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>>573046216wrong thread, bro, /wuwa/ is two blocks down
>>573045963I largely consider e-celebs overhyped cretins, but I know a lot of people outsource their opinions to them; reposting an e-celeb at least makes sense from that perspective. Literal randos trolling, though? People should at least have the dignity to do THAT themselves...
>>573021906>forcing every one of them to think that 160 is the perfect number for a single pull of gacha.Eh pull cost doesnt matter at all. 1 pull could cost 1000 gems as long as the rewards in the game make up for it. Like Endfield is 500 per pull but chests in the game on average (and everything else) gives about 20-50 gems which is about 6% of a pull. SHIT IS FUCKED
>>573046790yes but retards actually think 500 vs 160 is worse even though 500 is a clean even number while 160 is obfuscating how much you have, to trick you into thinking you have more than you do
>>573046336Based.
>>573046284>_ ____ ___ __ ___A game for no one
>>573046996pro hangman player
>>573046996Noose in 1
>>573046894This, make it 100, make it 250, make it 500, make it 10000 - I don't care. But make it something that's easily multiplied and divided in your head so that you can quickly calculate how many pulls you "need" at any given moment. 160 is a fucking stupid number UNLESS you're trying to make people stumble over the math - and that's just scummy.
>>573046790160 is objectively better than 500. Chests in the 160 game regularly give 1/8 of a pull while Endfield chests routinely give 1/36 of a pull. Even the best chest (extremely rare) in Endfield is only 1/5 of a pull.Endfield also has worse pull economy. Monthly gives less pulls. Patches give less pulls. Events give less pulls. Endgame gives less pulls.
are we talking about how many babies we want to have with the operators?
>>573031094>Empty as fuck for one of the biggest Gacha releases in the past few yearsHoly fuck I remember the huge hype that Endfield had when it first released back in January im still trying to hold out myself but damn 1.4 will make me quit finally if its the same boring bullshit as the previous patches
What killed the hype
>>573047432it was me, I won
>>573047432censorship
1.4 will be solo Arcane for 10 weeks with one powerwash event 6 weeks into the patch
>>573047315>20 gem chests in 160 gameslol enjoy your 5 and 2 gem chestEndfield's got the densest amount of fat chests giving 150 - 200 littered on the map instead of the equivalent in 50 gem chests being locked behind a 30-2 hour puzzle/quest.
>>573047432people wearing tiny hats
Censored slop always flop!
>>573047432The game being a hoyoslop skinwalking as Arknights game
>>573047432It was not that this ageless paradiseEver stopped overflowing with beautyIt can be said with unwavering certaintyRather, it was their eyes that were corrupted
>>573047513This but unironically. I stopped spending when this happened. Mifu censorship showed I was right in doing so.
>>573034382I still dont understand why retards mindlessly defend the no pity roll over since it would be a benefit to them and for everyone else if they do implement it. Endfield is the first gacha where it feels bad pulling for characters especially when you get them early
>>573047432Male Endmin being a faggot
>>573046790That's my point. It doesn't matter what the number is as long as the pull income matches it. But these braindead hoyoniggers think that 160 is the standard and if your game costs something like 200, they'll assume you'll get the same amount of gems as their hoyoslop with pricier pull cost. Doesn't matter if your game gives out 50k gems f2p every patch, just because your pull costs more than their game at face value, means your game is more stingy.
Flopmille killed the game
>>573047964since 160 is the industry standard, endfield thought they could get away with 12-13k monthly gem income.
>>573047315what game are you referring to? genshin has the same pull economy as endfield except for weapon banner which is in endfield's favor. wuwa probably has better pull economy than both of them. it doesn't matter how much a pull costs. what matters is how many pulls you get per version. idk why that would be difficult to understand.
>>573046894why not 100 vs 160. or 200 or 250 vs 160. the problem is that the average person isn't going to understand the pull economy may be better. so it's still going to look bad that a pull is 500.
>>573047327Operators are just for fun. I only breed supervisors.
>>573031094>Meanwhile the WuWa booth is filledGRIM
>>573026029What Mi Fu sees whenever the Endmin is around
>>573045307NTE is making about the same as endfield
>>573042357>PantiesAIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LOWLIFE-SAMA SAVE ME
>>573031094Props to whoever set up that fanblade projector as the hologram display on the teleporter
>>573048793Even assuming the rate of decline slows, it'll probably be beneath us next month desu.
>>573042940I play NTE for fun and Endfield because I have to.
>>573046336I find a random convention visitor more credible than an Internet used car salesperson also known as an e-celeb
>>573039035Well I've dropped it last week, only Endfield and ZZZ remain
>>573048536there's a thing where people like bigger numbers. That's doubly true for retards. 100 would make it look kinda worse, and 200/300/400 is too uneven I guess. And 500 is close enough to the og's 600
>>573048793>>573049085The delusions of the raped is truly something
>>573049085I don't think any mainline gacha will crater as hard as EOSfield
I guess I'll wait another week before coming back to the thread. I kinda wish we had a pocket janny like /bag/. Or someone makes a good filter list
>>573050226astroturfed chinkshit don't get the luxury of having their pet janny unlike blue /a/rchive
>>573050226the...
>>573050654
>>573049627Wuwa didbut technically that's not "will"
>>573050654>>573050739Kek
The Raped.(it's NOT about the gacha)
>Seven hours ago>Huge crowd!Why does the Endfield booth look like it's closing already? I don't think Anime Expo closes ahead of schedule for anyone.>The other booth that he mentioned is for OG Arknights.
>>573035379everyone is tired of telling you to go kys, so just do us a favor already
>>573042940>I'm enjoying NTE btwIt honestly took me by surprise by how fun it is and im still enjoying it today
>>573051018>Little to no appealing characters to cosplay>No fun mascot>No story to drive discussion>No memes to talk about>Literally no gameplay right now so no one wants to try it
>>573035379>Can't exercise self control and save? Get lost. No pity carry over is fine, there's no need to be rolling when you don't actually need toAbsolutely retarded take. Limiting when people can roll will just make them leave. People want to know that they're always building towards something.>you never feel like you win with the gachaThis part is true. It's truly garbage how winning early feels like crap in this game.
>>573051392HG literally gives zero shits about the west, meanwhile look what events China gets.
>>573051194I honestly can't even attempt to play a game named "Neverness to Everness". The sloppa and ToF dev name also didn't interest meI'm waiting for Ananta for my anime gta fix. I'm sure it's fun enough
>>573051018This is so fucking grim
The raped for no one
>>573051018A game for
>>573051664That's just a cope because. It's much harder to exploit the global audience while in China they have 6 gorillion of people and an actual cult they can easily monetise almost passively.Good luck going that in the west. Even OGAK has absolutely abysmal numbers on global and even JP compared to china.
>>573051392>Little to no appealing characters to cosplayRossi>No fun mascotChubby lung>No story to drive discussionUhhhh Ardashit>No memes to talk aboutGugugaga>Literally no gameplay right now so no one wants to try itCC and factoryA game for everyone
>>573051735A true cultist.But you don't have a problem playing an Endfielder in a game called Endfield.
>>573051927here's a TRVKEEndfielder sounds cooler than Neverness to Evernesser
Cool Chen animation for (you)https://fxtwitter.com/xuanfengbowen/status/1999378048974750145
>>573051991>EOSfield vs NTRBoth are pretty bad
>>573051991I thought it was Nevernesser to Evernessie?
>>573051991We are called Appraisers in NTE because we do appraiser things.
>>573051018we're not making it past year one are we
>>573052260Nevernescence to Evanescence?
Please support Arknights Endfield NOW.
>>573052380No need, AK supports us anyways.
>>573052331No, that was a hit band from the 90s, I'm pretty sure.
>>573052380but the devs didn't think the game would be succesful, why does it need to be supported?
>>573052380Yes perly I'm doing my part
WAKE ME UP
>>573051924None of this astroturfed shit is actually popular btw. You will never have a doro.
>>573052715This. The devs don't care whether the game is good or not. It's a passion project.
why did you skip miffer?
>>573035049>no one plays it for the gameplay or storyNot even you believe that, especially when /akg/ has been faster than /end/ for a while now.Endfield loyalists will really point the finger at everything except Endfield itself.
>>573053141chinkshit
>>573053150>/akg/ has been fasterSo? you think they talk about the story or the gameplay or something?It's a "which arknight wud u fuk" circlejerk.
Arknights Endfield is a bonsaige
>>573053241So is Endfield except 5x slower lol
>>573053141I didn't. She is hot.
>>573053141Devs took away her thong
>>573053241>you think they talk about the story or the gameplay or something?Yes. Far more on-topic than /end/, which is now just an arena for other generals to shill their games. It's kinda fitting that you posted an offtopic image while accusing another general of not having ontopic discussion.
>>573053349uhhh who's wanting to fuck Saintontas... Doombros care to explain...?
So he was right? It's a
>>573053141I didn't skip her. I'm skipping Camille
This is Hai Mao, A.K.A. Lowlight's intended vision for the game. If you don't play Endfield how he intended, you're doing it wrong.
>>573053606yet this failed miserably
>>573053606Based. I completely agree with him.
>>573053606well yesThe reason I like Endfield is because the content is short and fun. I'm a working man and no longer has time to chase treadmill content
>I don`t know what to Grind/level up/build a character anymoreYeah, this game is loosing me.
>>573053606>how enjoyable that time feelsYeah, trading stocks, camera events and filler yapslop every single day is soooooooo fun! Truly a game for everyone.
>>573053606Can I play the game he's talking about?
>>573053606Uhhhhh so why did he fill the game with boring chores? The daily grind is literally the worst in class.
>>573053606A CEO for no one...
>>573053606Sounds like a cool game. Let me know it comes out.
>>573052994CAN'T WAKE UPSAVE ME FROM
>>573053606Which makes no sense.He says he doesn't want to enslave players yet he makes a gacha game which is the worst form of live service enslavement.He talks about genuinely fun content yet the game has no content at all.This just proves once again that he has no idea what the fuck he even wants to do.
>>573053349I gotta say, Carly's really to my tastes, those glasses are HOT.
>>573053976Did changing combat and ignoring the factory for 2 years due to player feedback not clue you in?
Come on... don't you enjoy taking 1(ONE(UNO)) picture every 2 days...
>>573053972THE FLOP I HAVE BECOME
>>573054103Epstein... I thought you were dead...
Camera events are content
>>573054305
>>573053606So lets make a good Single Player Game......by releasing half hour Content every 2 months......while bonafide proud Retards can gamble their money away for characters they don`t need. (Yeah, you totally need Laev and her Boytoy for the Storymode)
>>573051018imagine being a hired employee having to just stand there and ask yourself where you've gone so wrong with your life
>>573054305My death... Was greatly exaggerated...
what if talos is just a giant epstein island, the portal with all the authorities was "closed" yeah
>>573054827carly is being raped non-stop...
>>573051018This is what happens when you shill the foid MC. Even Hoyo isn't stupid enough to put FMC into important promotional material.
>>573055282>anime protag is luminehuh?
>>573053606I just finished umbral's agony modes after slacking off for months and this game is definitely not enjoyable. I'm sorry, Lowlight... it sucks.
I'm excited for when the livestream comes out so we get new material here for a few days before its the same spammed arguments
a game with no content
>>573055968more like content with no game
>>573051018>be a cosplay girl>looking forward to the marketing opportunity this presents>get assigned to Endfield>forced to stand there bored and having to fake a small every now and then to the few visitors>forced to watch how your colleagues assigned to WuWa are constantly swarmed by people wanting to take picturesGrim
>>573056159meanwhile, the rape booth....
>>573056159Raped by Porsche after all
>>573056220Chats is this real?
I uninstall
>>573056159Aren't booth girls banned in Ameristan?
Is this game good? dropped wuwa and want to pick up something new
>>573057371>Is this game good?No
>>573057371Maybe? It's free so you have nothing to lose but nte is just a better wuwa.I would recommend playing a real game.
>>573057371No. But you could try NtE if you haven't already.
>>573053606>A game must be genuinely fun>How enjoyable that time feelsSo washing cow dung across Wuling, Cooking and Camera events is enjoyable for him?
Oh, now I remember that it was /vmg/ the last summer where they were shitposting about booths on anime expos people don't care about. Like how NTE's was empty compared to Ananta or how big the Hoyo one was. No idea why they hate this general so much
>>573057371>Is this game good?It is, to the dismay of the thread doomers becase it keeps chugging along
>>573057779>So washing cow dung across WulingNo, but he thought that the target audience would love it
>>573057848What do (You) enjoy about the game?
>>573056159promoters prefer less crowds, makes their job easier thobeitt. I've participated in a few stands in business fairs
>>573057848Surely that's reflected in the sales right? After all, if the game is good people should spend.
>>573057993saar no redeem saar ai generation saar
>>573057993A game that is popular is a bad game because it means it's a game for everyone which means it's a game for no one.
>>573057993yes, just like a casinoor genshin impactor love and deep space. Your favourite games are worse than games for gay people, and women sadly
>>573057993It's a good game (for no one)
>>573057993It is. This salesposting is so retarded because you'd think only the top selling game is good and anything below is "flopping". If your game is in top 50 revenue it is a success objectively compared to the DOZENS of other games you don't even hear about
>>573058230>what I hate others find enjoyable and I hate it!Sad.
>>573058263This. The more popular the game is, the worse it is.The ideal game is the game that no one hears about.
>>573058392but enough about Endfield's doomposting
This. If the game has more than one player it's shit.
>>573058492I wish I could hand waive all criticism as doomposting.
>>573058156Who is Endfield for then? honestly? most /akg/ posters left /end/ and dropped Endfield, so it's clearly not Arknights fans
>>573058452>>573058508Good job ignoring half of what I said.
>i want a kool exclusive clubI thought you had to be over 18 to post on this shithole?
>>573058563I wouldn't, but it's easy to tell when someone is being dishonest about le EoS and le sales
>>573058708the whole scene is tribal
>>573058708You are posting muh sekrit club: the site that constantly gossips over reddit twitter discord users, and you should know this being a /vmg/eet after all.
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>>573058885It's like he never left
>>573058758Which is weird because you WANT to convert people into your own tribe and make it grow.I guess that's the lengths of cognitive dissonance people will go to just to say the game isn't flopping.
>>573057971First and foremost the presentation is great, the visuals and the characters are beautiful, the characters themselves are well animated and look great on their own. Also the setting of being a corpo overlord does make me happy. The music is great too.Then is the fact that there's no rng when it comes to gearing, playing 3 other games that require rng to gear and then a fourth one would be too much.I like how the story is progressing albeit is a slowburn but I'm invested in what's going to happen next patch with Arcane for example.I really love the english voice acting, because Perlica and Chen have genuinely amazing VA's. Personal preference here but other characters like TangTang and Mi Fu have actual native chinese VA for their voices so at times they sound like unintelligible chink babble and that makes me laugh.I DO like that you can get every operator off-banner, I have all of the girls that I wanted and had to skip anyways, also getting copies isn't that crucial for meta so just having them baseline is often good enough.----Reddit spacing but I rather do that and make spergs seethe than just have everything be a disorganized mess. Basically, the game is pretty well made, is it for everyone? No, but I kinda love it.Do I wish we got more content per patch? of course since I like the game, but at the same time that I would've spent having FOMO of 4 games at once, I can just relax with one of them for one.>>573057993This game is not going anywhere chud you've been doing this dance for almost a month now
So why are so many more non-players hanging around today, anyway? Did some embarrassing scandal hit another big game or something?
Endfield is the worst gacha in the market right now
>>573058939Not really, you want your tight tribe and fight others and shit on them.
Ain't nobody reading all dat LMFAO[-]
>>573058992A game.... FOR NO ONE.
>>573058881>hurr durr boogeymanOk retard.
>>573058992They've been at it since 1.2. Just 3rd worlders passing the time in their mud huts. Every day I hope for a monsoon to put them out of their misery
>>573057848It's really not, and I've been playing this game religiously since day 1 (also played Arknights for a good four years).The exploration is just okay but the map design has devolved into corridor experiences. The story often devolves into "endmin will fix it" magic handwaving episodes. The factory stopped being fun. Etchspace was never fun. Deliveries and stonks were novel things ripped from other games, until you realized they are chores you do for no reason. The one, extremely fun, repeatable thing the game has going for it is CC, and even that is a shadow of the glory that is Arknights CC and it'll be gone soon anyway. The game looks nice, I guess? But after playing a game like ZZZ, I think pushing graphical fidelity without having a hook like expressive animations is an exercise in futility, if all you want is your game to look good then Silver Palace has us all beat and it hasn't even come out yet.This game is just disappointing, and I wanted to like it so bad. I counted the days for it to come out on my wall ever since it was announced... a 3D Arknights experience is all you needed to hook me in. But this is not that. This is a bastardization of what that might look like. This game wishes it could have 1% of what Arknights has, in terms of storytelling, in terms of characters, in terms of mood and atmosphere, and in terms of fun, dynamic, varied unit combinations and gameplay scenarios.>why are you still playing if you hate the game?Fuck you, I am upset that the game is disappointing because I really wanted to like it and still do. I am entitled and I don't fucking care. Maybe if you were a little big angrier too, the game wouldn't suck fucking dick?
>>573059093>Every day I hope for a monsoon to put them out of their miseryThird worlders is the entire audience gro. Why would you want the game to die?
>>573058957>nothing about combat>nothing about factoryIf you want to read a story I don't think videogames are the right medium for you.
>>573059179Southeast asians are the non-paying audience, the player count would take a hit but coincidentally little to no revenue loss.
>573059140>Etchspace was never funlies
>>573059308>let's make an extraction gamemode>without anything that makes an extraction game
Here are the most popular games on steam right now. Numberfags should be playing those games.
>>573059259I got to CC 35 without Stella and I'm happy there, I'm not playing this game for combat, I have other games for that, I DO have fun with the factory though, I can like some aspects of the game more than others you know?this might be useful for (you) >https://www.simplypsychology.org/black-and-white-thinking-in-autism.html
>>573059437do u want tarkov but arknights or some shit because i think it's fine as is, just get your oros and wait till the next section opens
>>573059489You sound upset.
>>573059308Etchspace was fun, but they really needed to put a daily limit on it - maybe let you bypass it by spending sanity or T-creds.Without one, there's really no incentive to optimize your runs - you can just keep going in as many times as you'd like to collect nodes, so it doesn't matter if you're collecting a handful or a ton. In fact, real-time-wise, it might be better to just take the low-hanging fruit and bounce.
>>573059489Isaacchads still pulling insane numbers
>>573059489Geez, Binding of Isaac is still in the top ten? How...
>>573059538white people don't do shit like this kek
>>573059538Large if factual
/zzz/ barely giving doomkeks any attention, why can't we do the same?
>>573059508>I didn't like being called out so you're autistic!Ummmm...>I DO have fun with the factory thoughMakes sense why you would kek
>>573059538
>>573059731doomkeks can't beat the schizo troons on that general that post the same arguments and baits day after day....kinda like this place but minus the thread personality drama.
>Add weekly content >Add skinsThere you go. Game saved.
>>573059731Brain defects, can't tell shitposts from real posts.
>>573059489>bongo cat and task bar hero that high in chartsman, people really install the dumbest free shit. and then you read another article about some free to play game on steam actually being a keylogger or crypto miner or some malicious shit.
>>573059731Because zzz is a good game unlike endfield
>>573059734So I need to either love everything about a game or it's EoS? fuck man, games are for no one after all
>>573059140This. Why have the recent maps been so bad? The first 2 Wuling maps were such a step up, now we are back to corridors?
>>573059538>>573059807I'll be there to witness
>>573059857>contentwe dont do that herecontent means people will be forced to play the game and that goes against Lowlight's design philosophy>skinsthe engine doesn't support skins
>>573059909>games are for no one after allNo, just this one.Good job for understanding though!
The livestream announcement calls 1.4 a Celebration event, which officially confirms it as our 6 month anniversary patch. This all but confirms that the Sui proxy will be released as a playabe operator in 1.4., because in the original Arknights, the 6 month anniversary also debuted the first Sui proxy, Nian.The announcement image also has an ink visual theme, which is associated with the Sui proxy.Thus, we have 4 possibilities for the banners in 1.4>Sui 6*, Arcane 6*>Sui 6*, Arcane 5*, Idol 6*>Sui 6*, Arcane 6*, Idol 6* (3 banners, less likely, unless one is given for free)>Arcane 6*, Idol 6* (no Sui, less likely)
>>573059978>the engine doesn't support skinsThat doesn't make sense, even modders can do it.
game would have been better with loli Pelican
>>573060151Compared to you, she's basically a loli. It's all perspective.
>>573059489>task bar herooh. silly idle games are fun for an afternoon>it harvests all your data then bans your steam account for opening AHK for any reason>but you can afk grind 2 whole cents with it so everybody installs it
>>573060082I unironically want to Sui brat, but who cares? I'll level her up then I'll have nothing to use her on?
>>573059978>the engine doesn't support skinsThis becomes funnier and funnier every time I read it.
>>573060082Sui solo.
>>573060068mmmm, this is a game for mewhat game you do enjoy? since everything is so doomerish around you I can't imagine many
I want 3* ops that are just useless random npcs and 1* bots
>>573060123They mod over the default model not make a new one entirely tardo
>>573060151why pitswhy can't you be normal
>>573060082do you think they would ever give us a 6* as part of an event?because they would probably also need to give us max pot for any event operator. and a free max pot 6* seems unlikely.Unless they add generic pot items that only upgrade event operators and drip feed us those slowly with future events. Like the battle pass has items that can upgrade only battle pass weapons.
>>573060343Youre a retard. I'm guessing you're unemployed at worst, a retail worker at best. Being an armchair dev is not impressive. Fuck off.
>>573060354>do you think they would ever give us a 6* as part of an event?Arknights does>because they would probably also need to give us max pot for any event operator. and a free max pot 6* seems unlikely.They gave us Ardelia for free without her pots. They can always just throw them into the standard banner; I don't think anybody would complain.
>>573060354>Give it for free P0>Have the banner up for people that want copiesis that easy, often done in gacha games
>celebrating crawling and limping along for half a yearwhy
I despise most of you and wish you painful death and misery.
doomkeks would be angry if the game overtook their hoyo/kuro kusoges anyways
>>573060528>Arknights doesDisingenuous faggot. You know damn well the resources it could require for a character to be back in PNG AnimeBloons is far less than what is required for a 3D game. Not even speaking about how that game has 12 party slots compared to four. I hate this general, but most importantly, I hate ArkTroons..
>>573060685When it comes to eosfield doomgods won hard
>>573060726Gacha should have never gone 3D
>>573060667Amiya would never say that. Use a pic of the Sanguinarch next time instead.Or Gertrude, Gertrude's always good.
>>573060540But that would make the revenue chart for that banner extremely low and then everybody would make fun of us.
>>573060685There is one game general amongst the big 4 that really cares about revenue after it failed to be #1's killer, revenue niggs get bullied out of most of the other ones
>>573060273>this is a game for meYou mean 20%, which barely includes any gameplay. You should check out visual novels; they'll blow your socks off!>what game you do enjoy?(esl or shaking? either way calm down jesus)So you can do a gotcha, right? And you didn't even name some games you enjoy? Actually, name 3 of your favorite games and I'll name 3 of mine and we can go from there.
>>573060726Why is it my fault that Endfield is worse than Arknights? If you're not confident you can make the jump to 3D with at least some parity in quality, maybe you shouldn't have tried in the first place?
>>573060820>big 4I know what you are.
>>573060685They are severely mentally ill. Imagine camping the thread of a game you hate all day long
>>573060726>couldn't even do an ornament for CC>but you do get some sweet inflatable tubemenWho's the one being disingenuous?
>>573060618Relaunch celebration
>>573060987Endfield's gacha is much better than Arknights though. There is no hard pity in AK.
>>573060801>Amiya would never say that.
>>573061180thanks hot lupo lady
>>573061247There is but you rarely hit it.
>>573060860>You mean 20%, which barely includes any gameplay. You should check out visual novels; they'll blow your socks off!Mmmm I still like the game and no reply on 4chan will make me not like it>Actually, name 3 of your favorite gamesYou'll be a disingenuous fag anyways nitpicking every game so is there a point? Total Warhammer and Rimworld are some of the ones I play the most
>>573060801Perlica also says it often! Just not out loud.
>>573061351I had to go 153 pulls on Titi's banner... Worth it, but it was my first bad break in the game...
>>573061247It's like 250. After like 150 rolls, the next 6* you get will be the rate up. But that obviously doesn't work on double rate up banners, which are very common.
>>573060082Honestly I'm more interested in the characters they will tease for future patches. I'll probably still roll for the Sui though, especially if she's as bratty as people make her out to be.
>>573061559This is why Perlica's the better protagonist.
>>573061559Yeah I can see that, god I love perly
>>573061352I was just recommending what you might enjoy, what's your pr->Total Warhammer and RimworldThanks, now I know what type of person you are.
>>573061732>>573061759
>>573061881we are both here shitposting on /end/, welcome to the bucket bwo
>>573060667Amiya, can you loan us some more money?
>>573062046it's funny how AK money literally funded and keeps funding AKE
>>573061207What will they change in the relaunch?
>>573062220It's a surprise
>>573062220The most important thing is to ditch the artificing system, and add a proper artifact farming system. That'll give people the content they've been clamoring for.
>>573062220Nefarith will retvrn and shoot the Dijion out of the sky with a great big slingshot. No more stonks. No more Ecchi space. No more gifting and no more clue 7's.
>>573062595>no more clue 7'sPlease save me Neffy, I have eighteen of the damnable things...
>>573062595Nefarith will return to accept me as her Savior, husband and father of our children.
