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>>573047839That was one out of the many drawfags that post here on the regular
i love buckethead <3
do you think when kris saw aqua they missed being that so bad
>After finally "finding myself"...>I felt like I was... LOSING myself.>I only wanted you to be mine! To be ME!>Because... I HATE me!>And If I became something I loved...>Wouldn't that FIX it!?Toby shouldn't have tacked the half-baked player/Kris parallel onto the Mew Mew fight because this is legitimately insulting if you apply it to the player
>>573047974I for one I'm glad more art of this beautiful screen has started to pop up.
I hope Pizzapants thinks it over and actually goes back to Nice Cream Bunny and just makes out sloppy style with him
>>573048027Knowing Kris? Probably activated mega self hatred times a bobillion for having been anything like that ever instead of a cool and intelligent nihilist
>>573048027I bet they wanted to molesting that thing like asriel molested kris
can we remove the pippins wiki from the op already
>>573048065No it isn’t. It’s a description of a certain way of engaging with fictional characters. If that doesn’t apply to you, you’re already on the other side of that conversation, at the point of mutual agreement.
>>573048065This is just a trans allegory bro, it's not a Kris/player parallel.
>>573048017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcPWrP3XMsc
>>573048114If someone baked me cookies in the shape of my face, I would forgive almost anything else they did
>>573048101I hope people draw Mew Mew's civ form more.
A WRINKLED BLUEBERRYA WRINKLED GRAPEBERRYANDANDTHE THIRD GUY NEEDS TO WEAR A HAT
>>573047987Putting tasqnun to sleep mode and then fucking her unconscious standing body
>orange is clearly a mouse>ralsei repeatedly identifies her as a mouse and points out she has mouse features, not human ones>orange cries and calls him a bully for this (despite clearly being a mouse)>the other flowers coddle her and affirm the delusion that she looks like a human (depsite clearly being a mouse)>anybody shown orange's character design out of context would immediately think "mouse", not "human"What did Toby mean by this
>>573048128Is this going to happen every time I mention aqua
>>573048205That's the thing. He literally baked him cookies that looked like him he can't truly believe this was just Nice Cream Bunny catfishing him for fun at this point.
>>573048128Kris took one look at aqua and thought "Yeah I get why I kept getting molested"
>>573048065I think people are going too far trying to compare Mew Mew's deal with KrisToby just likes her, put her in the game and it's not that deep
>>573048156The game is applying it to me regardless. That's why it's insulting.
very funny Toby hyping up Susie's heal in chapter 4 and then removing the improvment mechanic in chapter 5
>>573048323No, it really isn’t.
>>573048236Larpers are delusional and useless
>>573048236they're hugboxing the mousehon.
>>573048304>Is having sex with sex shaped sex child going to happen every time I mention the sex child?I dunno faggot you tell me
>>573048326Queen > Tenna = Flowery > KingThe titan isn't really a character.
>>573048114Nice Cream Bunny lost his chance the moment he thought that catfishing was a good idea. Now Pizzapants is forever LOST to him. Some bonds, once broken, cannot be ever fixed.
>>573048236Mice are human-coded. Ralsei just doesn't understand Deltarune.
>>573048236Shush.They cannot handle the truth.
This cannot be another thread of trans debate and “Toby raped me”
>>573048374tfw no mousehon gf
>>573048323>WHY DO THESE GAMES KEEP TRYING TO APPLY THESE OBVIOUS TRANS ALLAGORIES TO ME?!I have some bad news for you broski, or I guess, sistoski
>>573048065But those selfish desires are what leads to her meltdown, they don't manage to fuse until they realize that's wrong. Also I don't think anything about Kris is supposed to be word for word the same emotions the mad ghost is experiencing. Just a hint that Kris and the Heart need to find something common to grasp and cooperate like both halves of Pink do.
kris's enby pussy
>no clue on the Delta Rune code and Pine Tree code>Jackenstein showed a sword for the sixth boss>2 fucking chapters left>QC, Catti, Jockington, Catty, Bratty, Sans, Papyrus, Asriel and Rudy need to show up in a dark world
>>573048447This guy does goated blue archive animations too
>>573048065what did she mean by this
>>573048447Who the heck animated this
>>573048065What is any of this dialogue supposed to mean I feel like I'm a moron because I don't understand it
>>573048210I'm starting to find more and more art of it and it makes me so happy.
>>573048236Orange is otherkin. Duh.
>>573048584Ok im gonna go to bed see you fags and draw fags later
Okay y'all I'm getting kind of bored of talking about Deltarune now, we can all stop. Lets have this be the last thread and we can pick it back up once the next chapter releases. Thanks for discussing the game with me but its time we all collectively moved on
>>573048570Mad Ghost is a self-hating nobody and tries to become somebody she could love by embodying the Mew Mew character, like how at the start of the Pink encounter she acts like a cool anime big sister to Orange which immediately unravels when Susie and Ralsei start poking holes in her story
>>573048560https://x.com/i/status/2073080560034185327
>>573048236Based as fuck Toby showing his true hatred for troons but people here will still try to claim this game is wokeshit after the doe rape scene
>>573048461Don't you mean,CuntBoy Kris?X)
>>573048364The relationship between Maddie and Mew Mew is intended to resemble the relationship between the player and Kris. Maddie's mindset is intended to resemble the player's mindset. Therefore Maddie being a self-hating self-inserter is intended to be representative of how the player feels about Kris.
Are there any rational moral objections to just flat out killing darkners?They aren't people. Why should I care if some stacks of papers get blown to scraps?
I would accept lesbian KriselleI would accept lesbian KrusieStraight Suselle would be even worse than normal
>>573048682*lovingly shoves the Deltatube down your esophagus and kisses your forehead*
>playing for the first time>on chapter 4>"oh sweet I think I'm near the end, I guess I'll just wrap this up before bed">it's titan>there are no save points>if I quit I have to redo a bunch of bullshit>if I don't I'm going to break my laptop across my knee and also die because it's late on a sunday and I have work tomorrow and also I'm sick and my hands are slow because it's fucking freezing and I've been sitting here for hours and also I'm sad because Suzie's story earlier about getting gatekept from the piano really connected with me and now Toby's just rubbing my nose in the fact that I never got gud at vidya and I'll never be able to hang out with the le epic gamersI'm so tired
>>573048560Look a the filename
>>573048236>>573048369>>573048440>those who bully orange are shown to be in the wrong>anon will not learn from this at all
>>573048750you should be hecking nice to everyone and everything around you :(
>>573048065I'd call you Bulkin but I don't think he would be able to get even this far with his logic
>>573048810Is this some sort of meme I cannot believe people seriously struggle with the easy ass titan boss fight
>>573048739my wife(male)
>>573047894Hooman!
I don't know who or what a Bulkin is and I'm afraid to ask
>>573048730Youre projecting. You're personally identifying with the relationship because you're closeted trans
>>573048730Of how many players might feel about Kris, and about fictional characters in general. If it doesn’t apply to you, it doesn’t apply to you, and you’ve already grasped the central message of the fight. You aren’t being spited.
>>573048461>>573048729kris is a man with a cock kys groomers
>>573048939
>>573048829Ralsei is portrayed as morally correct for bullying Orange though?
>>573048730Parts of it are, not every single detail and letter. Also I think you're applying the wrong side of the analogy. We're supposed to be like the Mew Mew Darkner, the thing that wants to help Kris so it can stop drowning in darkness.
>>573048065You're thinking too small. SOUL is not direct 1-to-1 parallel to Mad Ghost, and Kris is not direct 1-to-1 parallel to Mew Mew Doll Darkner. Kris-SOUL relationship as a whole is parallel to Lightner-Darkner relationship here. Not the fine details.
>>573048829>call orange a mouse>they punch you in the face
kris and susie should eat ralsei
>>573048939it's what you do when you need to gain muscle mass and produce a calorie surplus in your body
ARE YOU PRO TRANNYSHIT OR ANTI TRANNYSHIT?
>>573048870Bulkin is a self-inserter so he'd be more insulted by the implication that self-inserting is unhealthy than by the presumption that the player MUST be self-inserting
>>573049063's asshole, sorry I hit post before finishing
>>573049081We're something, in between.Something like......clopen minded...
>>573048975it looks like ralsei has a huge hat
>>573049152Good post.
>>573048475Where is the Delta Rune code anyway? We all got baited by the church shit.
im trans and pregenant
>>573048236It means the definition of "human" will expand as science advances. Once we start to colonize the space, mouse bodies might be more fit for the task.
>>573049198Boy or girl?
i have lost my drive to continue
I want to fuck her
If Snowy had gone to the Flower King Dark World would he have been more or less racist towards Orange than Ralsei was
I'm a retardUnless Ralsei turns to the camera and says "I'm a girl now" I won't think that there's any tranny stuff in DeltaruneI didn't even register in my head that Blue is a black guy. I just thought he was one of those weird One Piece characters. Same with the Kris pronoun stuff. I'm too retarded that my brain automatically switches the they to he.
>>573049291Particularly the ghost form
>>573049196In Gerson's dust hammer case, if it's similar to Flowery
>>573048950NTA but I don't understand how you can say "if it doesn't apply to you, you shouldn't be bothered," You're telling me I need to have such a big ego I find myself above this conflict to think by default it's not talking about me and I'm one of the good ones
>>573049318snowy would just kill every darkner immediately for fun
>>573048975i somehow thought Ralsei had huge tits from the thumbnail
YES
>>573049379You're having a way bigger ego by assuming that Toby is out to get you and everybody playing his game when he's usually very careful about not giving the player any particular motives or characteristics beyond "wants to complete the game"
>>573049325T(he)y
>>573049419Flowery has all the same inclinations as Ralsei, but unlike him he can actually become furniture
awful irredeemable thread
This is a pretty fucking good thread so far
Kris GasterSusie GasterNoelle GasterAll of these ships are incest
>>573048950There's no other fight that's meant to parallel a different kind of player-player character relationship, even Spamton NEO follows the same logic that the player must literally want to become the player character because they don't like their real self. Self-insertion is consistently presented as the only type of player mindset that exists.
>>573049419https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oZ5j3ZU1KQ
>>573049519/v/eekend
>>573049575>I presume to know the authorial intent of a scene and then get insulted when my bias view of every scene afterwards is marred by that vision You might just be retarded anon
>>573049575No? All that means is that it’s a mindset the game is uniquely interested in addressing.
>>573049486I'm trying to play the game the way he intends to and separating myself from Kris but he persists to call me the bad guy no matter what I do.
>>573049746You're literally robbing Kris of personal agency every time you pick up the controller that's not a good guy thing to do.
>>573049746Crusader of Coal, is that you?
>>573049325the pronoun shit doesnt matter anyway
Undertale/Deltarune meet up at anthrocon today if any of you guys are going
>>573049936NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you dont call kris a they youre heckin media iliterate
>>573049936If in Undertale and Deltarune, humans are the weird and novel creatures does that mean I can go to anthrocon without any costumes?
>>573049936
>>573049817Toby Fox (God) is the bad guy for creating Kris just to suffer like this, not me
>>573049746would you like it if some parasite controls your every move and makes you do shit you dont want to do?
>>573048750Are there rational moral objections to stealing others' stuff? Darkners or not, they have owners.
>>573049735Undertale was uniquely interested in addressing players who replay a game over and over to see what would happen and yet it still acknowledged that other types of players exist.
>>573050050I mean a costume isn't really mandatory to begin with.
>>573050160To be fair, we have been stealing them. If that's okay then killing them is too
>>573050160Even if that object is going to bring about gross bodily harm to a real person or people?
>>573048810>Anon doesn't know what "hibernation" isAll OS' support it, btw
>>573050149Yeah that sounds kinda kickass honestly
>>573050149I put up with God, yes.
I like watching streams of people happily playing Deltarune. It makes me happy :) <3
Chapter 5 felt like a Steven Universe episode
>>573050290>god is le evil
I think Mew Mew lewd images and greentexts MIGHT be enough to get me to chapter 6…
>>573050352blue looks like a steven universe
I'd probably be more critical of Undertale and Deltarune being streamer bait if the games weren't so funny.
>>573050352toby didnt write it he only wrote the weird route>>573050413hes a troon self insert
>>573050365Good little Hylic, now you’re getting it.
>>573050428UTDR can never be true streamer bait because there's too many words
>>573050505That's true, and there are no eight pages to collect for slenderman either.
halp there's clearly a path under here but if I drop down ralsei doesn't latch fast enough
>>573050352A group of archetypal rainbow uglies taking way too long to address plot points and neglecting mysteries for later episodes? Salvaged by music and background art? You’re onto something
>>573050393>imagesPost them.>greentextsLink them. I’m fucking horny
>>573049817Why do you play the game, Anon? Just quit. (You) want to set Kris free? Then do it. Stop playing the game.And you're not allowed to watch letsplays, either. That would be "creepy".
anyone got a gif of this part?
>>573049196toriel's house, in her bedroom that's always lockedand i'm not kidding, the front of the house has the deltarune and toriel's robe in undertale is the very first time we encounter the deltarune int he series. and why would her room always be locked, as a single squeaky-clean rural Christian mom she'd have nothing to hide except maybe a wine bottle that kris would be all too well aware of already
>>573048236She’s a human, so it’s okay to date and fuck her. Thank you, Toby Fox.
>>573050585Go further till you reach the wind wheel dumbass
>>573050617Because I don't care about what the video game thinks about me, I wanna see how it ends.
I dont understand the “CONTROLLING KRIS IS BAD” angle and I’m starting to think its straight up fucking fanon. Undertale was very straightforward about its dichotomy. “Have a little mercy, human.”Deltarune has no such moral. There’s no choice offered to the player. Most normalfags (like myself) won’t even realize what’s going on until Spamton Neo spells it out for you. Even OFF explained your relationship to the Batter early on, so your decision at the end has some real weight to it.I dont think Deltarune is going in that direction at all
>>573050010I accept that Kris is canonically nonbinary and everyone in the universe uses they/them, I choose to headcanon Kris as a guy because I find every Kris pairing more erotic if I imagine him as a strange androgynous boy. Every headcanon is valid, right?
>>573050745what wind wheel If I drop down the plants shift slightly to the left or right
>>573050567It's too soon to say that. The sjelter will be full of documents written by Gaster's lab assistants right before they all died and you have to collect them before the Knight catches you.
>>573050818Except all the freedom shit and Kris yanking you out and throwing you like a dog turd every chance they have yeah I don't think it's about freedom at all.
>>573050864climb up
>>573050857i do the opposite because feminine men piss me off. kris is a girl sorry
>>573048236>anybody shown x's character design out of context would immediately think "y", not "z"
>>573050149>parasiteWhat Kris have is basically a brain transplant. SOUL is culmination of one's being, same as brain IRL. Imagine you wake up and find out your brain was extracted from your body and transplanted into someone else. Who in his right mind would call you a "parasite" in this state?
>>573050864Go up dumbass
>>573050604Its really weird to tell other people how horny you are, maybe stop that?
Are people really still doing the "Toby is secretly a chud" cope? Just accept that he's woke and move on
>>573050818It can't be said whether Deltarune thinks the player is bad or not for controlling Kris because Deltarune doesn't explain FUCKING ANYTHING
>>573050624Her bedroom is full of personal massagers
>>573050585This can be done without the wind wheel btw but you have to keep holding down the jump button and the right button at the same time as you select ralsei's ACT. Otherwise letting go of them causes your momentum to stop.
>>573050818That's because your choices don't matter. Much like Kris you have no other choice but to keep going. That's why the game doesn't ever call you out on it, only Kris ever acts against you directly and that's because they're doing some shady shit which they can't allow you to interfere with. People just think the game is punishing you and treating you like shit for controlling Kris because deep down they feel bad for having to control Kris at all and conflate those feelings with what the game is actually showing you.
>>573050965painal with maddie
>>573050965lust provoking image
>>573050894Except Pink sort of made it work and Kris is notably more gentle with the soul after our big fight in Chapter 4. And Kris’s idea of freedom appears to be “rescue deleted friend, fuck the consequences and fuck anyone who gets hurt.”
>>573050413bro. that's my exact thoughts.(fun fact: blue wasn't designed by toby fox)
>>573050857desu im a woke tranny leftist and i used to not understand people like you, until seth dropped"they" are way cuter if they're a she
>factundertale and deltarune have very underwhelming stories>factboth protags fucking suck>factthe soundtrack is carrying the entire franchise on its back>factevery mystery creates three new mysteries instead of answering the old one>factthe community will invent lore faster than the game releases chapters>factthere are more theories than confirmed plot points>factsomeone will explain why this was actually intentional game design>factthe fandom remembers unused dialogue better than the actual story>factany toby fan is a fucking underaged retard or an adult with mental problems
>>573048992She calls him ugly in like the first few seconds of the talk, I love my orange onahole, but she’s not innocent here>>573050818Ralsei explains to you on the very first chapter you should treat others well.Also we control the heart, and only does Kris move without our control when he takes us out, and then he is sometimes violent to us. There’s probably tons of other bits of evidence with the way he responds to our choices, but it’s not like ANY theory is going to have Toby come out and explicitly say things.
>>573050985There's literally two separate player bad boss fights. How much more clear does it need to be?
imagine bouncing on Flower's stamen and he prematurely ejaculates but you're not satisfied so you keep riding him, he becomes overstimulated and starts crying
>>573049817>>573050149NTA but Kris is almost certainly the the one who stole the soul. If he doesn't like being controlled it he can put me back in my vessel.
>>573048236>Pink being able to live only in the darkworld.>Ralsei being a bully against the mouse.>Asgore trying to find the truth even if it ruins his relationships.>Noelle becoming a deranged schizo when she discovers the true nature of the lightworld.The game implies that transwomen will never be women truthfully but that telling them the true is bad and you should let them delude themselves in believing that.I don't know if Toby intended this reading but it feels a fair reading of the game at this point.
>>573051186My choices don't matter, so it doesn't matter if I treat Kris well or not
>>573051112>Kris is notably more gentle with the soul after our big fight in Chapter 4.Kris literally throws the soul in a trash can in this chapter
>>573050939Fair enough anon, you have your yums and I have mine. Though most nsfw art gives Kris a dick so I feel for you, it's much harder to find girl Kris.
>>573051231>FlowerFlowery*fuck, I just woke up
There should be more options to torture or humiliate Kris
>>573049817>>573050617i'm not sure why this retarded take keeps persisting in the fandom, kris might indeed fuss and hem and haw at having to work with us and have all these sneaky things he does behind our back but if we left him on his own and never picked the controller back up midway through the game he would *fucking die*. it was always implied but with the very first opening scene of chapter 5 it was hard-confirmed with the green fucking skin after being out all night; not only can Kris not even go into dark worlds at all without a SOUL but if he tries to exist too long even in the light world without one he starts to DIE.it might not be ""nice"" by some strange sjw faggot standards, it might not be what Kris wants, but it's put up with it or literally fucking die. It still feels like the story's building up to a point at which all will we revealed and we'll find some way to directly communicate anyway, and find a way to get on each other's damn wavelength finally, at least on some level.Especially with this chapter's reveal that Kris absolutely certainly did at some point have a cyan-colored natural soul, AND the mew-mew stuff, I'm actually expecting at some point we'll be able to get Kris's soul back and merge with it by the endgame; that the half-cyan, half-red soul from the UT Mew Mew fight wasn't just a Switch joycon reference but a cheeky clue to the end of Deltarune.
>>573050428>>573050505Game Grumps tried to milk money by playing Deltatune, but they quit half-way because it didn't get them enough money. That's true for every general "big" streamer, they all quit sooner or later. Well, except for Joel, I guess.
>>573051358malekris krusie is mogged by this dynamic
https://files.catbox.moe/6vm8j2.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/7zj44i.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jrpzy9.jpeghttps://files.catbox.moe/m50da0.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/785vzj.png
>>573051372>helarp
Chapter 6 has a minigame where you can help Kris choose their gender.Notably there are three options: Boy, Girl, and Whatever. If you choose Whatever the game continues with they/them pronouns as per usual.Choosing Boy or Girl alters this permanently, and changes some party dialogue. This decision inspired 1,400 new pieces of pornographic artwork and a legendary twitter flame war “The Krisades” which is still ongoing as of today, 13 years after the chapter released. I am team Fem Kris and we are being overrun by Ass Bandits from the 42nd Prancing Lala Homo Brigade.
I love fish
>>573050624Or Toriel hid the code in a closet and it's behind the castle town angel door.
retro kralseis
>>573051349I don't know man, that looked to me like Kris slowly carried you over to the trashcan, carefully opened up the lid, quickly stored you tightly into the garbage to prevent you from escaping, and carefully closed the lid. That seems way more gentle than beating the shit out of you with a hockey stick
what if the soul was dess
>>573051372>if we left him on his own and never picked the controller back up midway through the game he would *fucking die*.No they wouldn't. If you skip chapters then Kris is still alive. Kris needs a soul, but they don't need (You) controlling the soul. (You) are unnecessary.
>>573051372There are time-skips between each chapter, proving that SOUL doesn't need a player. Third Chapter fountain even was sealed in a time-skip, proving SOUL doesn't need a player to seal dark fountains.Of course, SOUL would still puppeteer Kris and he still won't have agency, but it won't be US doing that.
>bitch got a penis
>>573051420Based Swedish Chef
>>573050617Actually, it's not enough to stop playing. The real way to set Kris free is to refund the game, I'm sure Toby will add that mechanic in Chapter 7
I TAKE A NAP AND I WAKE UP TO THIS SHIT THREAD WITH NO ANCHOR?FUCK YOU ALL.personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
Please throw your votes in.https://strawpoll.com/e6Z2Aj2GJgN/results
>>573051723If we don't start the chapter Kris wouldn't exist
I'm kind of confused where exactly Toby is trying to take Kris and Noelle's relationshit if you abort the Weird Route- are they even still friends atp?
>>573051159I'm ||woke|| too I just like boy Kris for whatever reason. I agree with you about Seth, she's cuter if she's a homely nerd girl rather than a genderless entity. Not the gooner idea of "homely nerd girl" mind you, but like that round-shouldered girl who used to sit at the back of your class in high school. Wearing a trenchcoat in summer heat because she thinks it makes her look "cool", long center-parted hair with tons of flyaways, unplucked eyebrows, acne scars. That girl.
>didn't even reply to the OP to have the anchor on easy accessngmi...>>573047894look it's the late anchor >>573051829
>>573051723Third entity is piloting
>>573051684
Epic Deltarune Theory: When Deltarune was first conceptualized Alphys was supposed to be in the becomes Mew Mew role but when Toby made Undertale he came up with the ghosts and decided to go with those instead since Alphys already got a big role in Undertale
>>573051693Kris attacked the soul with a hockey stick specifically because it was out of reach. If we got out of reach again, they'd do the same thing. They're just as rough handling the soul as they were in previous chapters otherwise, they always chuck it as hard as they can.
I wish asgore did literaly anything when the roaring knight appeared. Imagine if asgore managed to hold his own against the knight at least for a little bit, then as he is about to recieve a lethal wound, flowery steps in to sacrifice himself instead of jobbing like how he actualy does. there is so much wasted potential in this chapter.
>>573051896>No, no matter the route is the most popular optioni'm a krusie believer but you'd have to be blinded by seethe to select this
>>573051730>SOUL would still puppeteer Kris and he still won't have agencyThere is no third entity. Kris makes the decisions in the default saves because the soul is just an object without the player's control.
>>573051972You're right I'm fucking stupid but I thought people would just crtl+f "anchor" like I did to find it...
Carol will be the next one getting kidnapped.
>>573051589If youre a boy or youre a girl or maybe youre something different weve got burgers for me and you
>>573052081yeah and what if when he was about to get captured again sans showed up and he said "heh, you're gonna have to get past me! hey big guy, hope this makes up for not giving you pickles yesterday..." and then megalovania 2 played
>I LOOK FORWARD>TO CREATING>A NEW FUTURE>WITH YOU.Someone else already played Deltarune but they sucked ass which is why Gasty Boy had to bring you in as a ringerWhen you skip chapters it defaults to the previous playthrough's data by whoever drove Kris the first go around
>>573051723SOUL is a player character, not Kris. By skipping chapters, (You) still make Kris suffer by being controlled by SOUL, your player character. I dunno why you're still being retarded even after Chapter 4, where Noelle noticed that Kris is controlled, even if you skip the chapters. Kris is always controlled and is always without agency, regardless of skippage.
What the FUCK is the point of the eggs?
>>573048236
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>>573052245It's evidence. You'll know what it was evidence for when it happens.
>>573052245They're not too important but not too unimportant. You'll know when it's time.
>>573052180Is there something wrong with me if I would enjoy this and find it funny
>>573051293My post was semi-jokey (because it's funny to imply Toby is a chud) but to be serious for a second, Orange and Pink's stories (a mouse insisting they're a human, a monster wishing they could be a real girl but only get to experience this in a fantasy land) do say exactly that and I'm not sure it was Toby's intention.
can someone post neat deltarune wallpapers pleasee
>>573052294>>573052306I TIRE OF YOUR RIDDLES, DOG MAN
>>573049419im falling!!!
>>573052365
>>573052112SOUL is a player character, retard. Player characters can still do stuff during time-skips in games without any other entities being present. Noelle outright says that Kris isn't himself "lately" (not "today") in Chapter 4, even if you skipped Chapters 1-3.
hey guys!
The ending is going to fucking suck ass
>>573052262Kek
Why was Asgore so mean to the flowers when they became guys
>>573052106OTOH Suselle supporters literally cope with "he's a shit writer" or "she's mind controlled" to explain all the red flags + what's old by Noelle in the WR.
>>573052458/utg/ is going to hate the ending no matter what. It's in the prophecy.
>>573052430
what game genre will we be switching to in chapter 6?
>>573051896idk but toby should explore more the relationship in ch6 because you can't only explore the good parts of suselle
>>573052560the ending is just going to be toby fox laying in a big pile of money like in breaking bad
>>573052509Flowers don't understand light world consequences.
>>573051693>Throwing you into a trashcan with literal trash is being "gentle"beaten wife syndrome
No homo but I would make out with Ralsei until he's on the verge of passing out
Deltarune chapter 5 becomes a hell of a lot more kino if Rudy is the Knight>desperatly kidnapping and misleading your best friend>Asgore's Rudy flower tulpa fighting the realistic monster Rudy has become>Knight is tired as fuck and has to pull out bullshit to kill Flowery>Asgore's resolution by the end is in sharp contrast to Rudy endlessly opening dark worlds and searching for his daughter until he's ill from DW gaster disease. It's also the complete opposite of what Flint did in Mother 3 as well (Flint is Rudy)
>>573052509He pampered these plants for over 2 decades, why wont these ingrates return the favor and tell him the truth about who opened the fountain?
>>573052509he suffers from dendrophilia and the human form ruined it for him
>>573052262Sums it up.
Knight UndyneKnight AsgoreKnight Carolfuck....
>>573052623I think I agree with a bunch of anon claiming that CH6 will be mostly about the party falling apart.
>>573052612I'm looking forward to when they enter the Shelter and it just becomes horror Brandish
>>573052612zachtronics
>>573052601
>>573052612Depends on where Chapter 6 will take place.
>>573052262The Pink fight was foreshadowed since the UT Switch port and was probably planned since 2016 like the rest of the chapter. It's definitely not a last minute addition to rush the chapter out like this image is implying, that's a pretty dumb assumption.
>>573052145...And no one in town will notice or give a fuck.
>>573051917Yessss you understand my vision perfectly
>>573052282I'm starting to feel like these threads will just stay shit during the day until GTA6 releases and the outsiders get a new FOTM toy in their minds to care about, the threads are generally fine now from midnight to 6am.
>>573052509It was a bad day and the flowers wanted him to ignore it.
>>573052245Can you get eggs and NOT get Starwalker’s ass?
>>573052780what does a mayor in a town with like 30 people even do
>>573052612roguelike deckbuilder
I actually can't take it anymore.I want to fuck Flowery until he's a sobbing messI need to put this condescending twink in his placeI'm so pissed off at him, I really like him, I wanna do a ton of things to him!
“…one last fun adventure, ok?”One last fun adventure my ass that was shit
>>573052245It's what remains of the original game (not the mantle one, the one the forgotten man is from)
>>573052245they're a reference to brandish, you get the amulet of protection early into the game and the jingle for using it is the same as the jingle for using an egg, both can be used multiple times and seemingly do nothingwhat the amulet does is raise your luck stat to 101 after you use it, but the game never tells you
>>573052756bonus tv time one that's too big for threadhttps://files.catbox.moe/frh60v.png
>>573048128>asriel *noelle
>>573052673same
>>573052779I think the image is saying that both Orange and Pink's trans allegories are poorly thought out and implying things that Toby maybe didn't intend.
>>573052509Because they started having the wants and needs of living people who love him instead of just being someone he could rant to just like his family
>>573052880Very good post!!
>>573052841the knight will be defeated in a gwent game
>>573052942Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
>>573052282The literal picture of Kris graphically pissing his pants was not deleted at all, do you expect staff to delete tranny stuff? Get real, the only rule actually enforced here is GR15.
>>573052836molest the human boy
>>573053047Where Kris piss?
>>573053006there's a level in that game where you need to have the egg just the right size to launch it over lava and I could never get it to work right, fuck that level, FUCK YOU BILLY HATCHER, KEK A DOODLE SHIT
>>573053067Instructions unclear: dick stuck in doe
>>573052957
Why doesn't Chapter 6 have a Weird Route? What's stopping you from putting the ThornRing back on her in the Dark World? Is she just gonna refuse to equip it?
>>573053067Who HASN'T molested Kris in Hometown?
>>573052963Orange just isn't a trans allegory in the first place
>>573051730The fact that the player doesn’t have to be physically present at each dark fountain sealing means it’s possible Kris sealed the fountain that Asgore’s notes talked about. Going further, the game may bring up the question of whether any lightner could seal a fountain if determined enough, like with creating one. The concept that Susie may be able to seal fountains herself and make Kris completely redundant outside of the prophecy feels like a natural extension of her growing independence, and Kris’ response or even fear of that happening would be very, very interesting.
>>573052984kris get your hand out your undies you devilish little masturbator
>>573053174asgore
>>573052509He’s so obsessed with THAT day he neglects himself, his friends, and his family. It’s just a mirror to what occurred when Kris was younger
>>573053047Where is the image of Kris graphically pissing themself? So I can report it. And warn other people to report it too.
>>573053184I've been saying that Susie will learn to seal dark fountains since Chapter 4.
>>573052836She's busy approving permits for the new big tea store so Sans's big teacups can finally be used for something
>>573053232name 3 girls
>>573052942Mort the Chicken...
>>573052952is it wrong that I'm pissed off by this
Deltarune is not One Piece. It's Goodnight Punpun.
>>573053323Noelle, Kris, Ralsei
>>573053139It could, just the lakeskip leads directly to 7 is all we know. Could have an entire different route in ch6, the eggs and shadow crystals all being done could do anything or nothing as well.
>>573052612First person dungeon crawler
>>573053323OmocatJulia VickermanJackie Chan
>>573051263>Kris and Dess got nabbed by the one behind the bunker doors>Had their souls yoinked.>Kris stole a synthetic soul and escaped>Dess became a slave who can't survive outside the dark world for long without a soul>Kris and Dess have been double agents the whole timeKino if true
>>573052717>you have to fight all three of them at the same time in the Shelter chapter
>>573053394Kris and Ralsei dont count
>>573053047>Kris graphically pissing their pantsI actually think there should be more fave pissing being posted!>>573053115>>573053278I just looked through the entire thread and couldn't find it, I'm upset I think that was bait...
>>573053139Chapter 3 had a separate Sword Route, so it's possible that Chapter 6 will have own spooky mini-route.
>>573053383who is Aiko
>>573053367Yes, Toby's autism about Brandish is objectively an endearing character trait and you are wrong to think otherwise
Do you guys still like Deltarune
>>573053419That would filter his core fanbase of childreb
what does the ?????????? line before the element under every entry mean?
>>57305357567 will determine if I still do or not
>>573052612HOLY SHIT I LOVE LOVELY PLANETnever did beat Lovely Planet Arcade tho
>>573053508Actually we're getting sword route 2. RambGODS, our day will come.
>>573053283Again chapter 5 confirmed a lot more than it answered.Although, another way the plot could take is when someone isn’t strong enough to seal a fountain but tries anyways. Would that person become overwhelmed with darkness, or would the fountain be sealed in their soul?
>>573050857Im woke-ish but alsoma portuguese speaker and non-gendered pronouns basically dont exist in my language. My way of viewing the world and speaking about it is just inherently gendered given the nature of language and any attempts people have done at implementing gender neutral pronouns here has been embarassing, I have to actually stop and rethink my speech to call Kris a "them" (delx) instead of going with the automatic male pronoun that pops up. Same for the Knight, given cavaleiro uses masculine pronouns by the default. I just call Kris a he with my friends who also like Deltarune IRL and they dont seem to mind either due to the language issues I just mentioned. Kris is also more relatable to me as a he, I struggled with self control issues a lot and have a similar personality and look to theirs
>>573053139You could in Chapter 4 because Noelle still had room in her heart for Kris. Now its impossible to overcome Susie lust.
>>573052978I've got a bouquet of high quality posts where that came from!
>>573053323hathy, head hathy, noelle, floradinn, pink
>>573053503>I think that was bait
>>573053575Less so than before. The last leg of the game will be the deciding factor on if I feel like I wasted a decade of my life and cast a blood curse on Toby fox's family line or not.
>>573053590It's a blank stat line to be filled in later. In earlier chapters, the "wish" stat line was also a bunch of question marks.
>>573053726This just makes me think of the monster from Pan’s Labyrinth
>>573053575General dwellers will always give a skewed answer. It seems a lot of people really like how Chapter 5 is the gameplay chapter with all sorts of cool shit done with the platforming, but the gaster/friend-brained theorist people hated it because Chapter 5 itself was fairly straightforward overall and didn't push the story along in the way they wanted. Personally I fucking loved it and I'm gonna replay it again for the fifth time soon. I'll never stop loving Deltarune.
>>573048065This literally sounds like a description of how people with BPD think
Love Deltarune. Hate bigotry. Simple as that!
>>573052279larprune
>>573053590It’s either intentional mystique or what they’re based on in the light world and not revealing it even when we can guess is a plot point.
>>573053583His core fanbase is autistic millennials who like Youtube Poop and Tumblr memes, everyone else is just along for the ride
Is Nubert a trackpoint?
Susie's pussy probably smells crazy nasty
>>573053980Yes.
I don't know who decided to make Chara obscenely hot but I'm glad they did
The thing Seam can do with the Shadow Crystals is create the Twisted Sword and the reason it's "very, very interesting" is that it'll enable them to destroy the shelter. If you don't have the ThornRing, he'll be disappointed but create a great armor or weapon for any party member of your choosing and fight you for it like Gerson.
>>573054008Statistically speaking, a 30+ year old man made this post
>>573053980Yes
>>573053575I love Deltarune even if Deltarune doesn't love me
>>573053876Why are you fucking here, man, you're so old! Where's your wife? Go home to your family, dude.
Kris flushes their knife and makes a dark world in the septic tank.
Kris is a guy. Berdley would be as openly obsessed as he was with Noelle if not more if Kris were a woman given the things he fixates on about Noelle are also things Kris does, top of class smarts and gaming.
>>573053575Chapter 5 is the first time it's hit the Undertale Highs for me so yes very
>>573054102kris is a genderthing and it filtered berdley
>>573053575yesi think that maybe chapter 5 should have been cut for overarching story pacing issues, though?like, unless there's a chapter 8 or chapter 7 is really, really long, it feels close to a filler chapter on that front, and we already had chapter 3 for that
>>573054061Seam would have hinted at getting the Thorn Ring if they wanted you to get one
Kris & Aqua, sitting in a tree!K-I-S-S-I-N-G!
>>573053708I assume nothing happens, it just fails.Chapter 4 showed what happens when you jump inside Fountain instead of projecting your SOUL into it: you fall. But the fall wasn't long enough to know if it's infinite or not.So assuming that Susie can't ever project her SOUL, she can only seal fountain by jumping into it. And if she fails, she might fall straight into Hell or something.
>>573054085>Been here since 2018>Still under 30I'm invincible, muahaha. nyon~
>>573054160Berdly gives me misandrist feminist vibes, he'd be an ally
kek
>>573054089>"Hey Kris, whose that girl over there who looks like Noelle?"
Why didn't Kris create a Dark World in Disneyland? do they hate Mickey Mouse?
Remember when people wanted to fuck Toriel?Luckily nobody wants to fuck her anymore
>>573053575the only chapter I've liked is 5 and I'm still very meh on the entire package
>>573054102Berdly latched onto Noelle because of the spelling bee incident and because she tolerated his presence, neither of which apply to Kris
>>573051372Imagine a girl had a deadly illness and for some reason your penis could cure it. She doesn't want your penis, but you still rape her anyway and save her life. You keep taking her because it's the only way to keep her alive and she hates that, hates you, hates that she needs you, and hates that you keep enabling it by going through with raping her. Are you a good guy?
>>573053115>>573053278Last year, look on b4k archive.
>>573054289She was originally mommyNow she is mother
>>573053710A gender-neutral pronoun is available and understood in my language so it's no problem, I can't imagine what a pain in the ass it is to try to portray this stuff in a language that flat-out doesn't have the option.
Undertale has more sovl than Deltarune
>>573054327what kind of fucking scenario is that, man
>>573054327It's more like she keeps raping me even though neither of us like it and she keeps me chained up so I can't run away
>>573053710This is really a shitty topic that I'm tired of seeing being discussed in every single thread but I'll join in this time because you're a portuguese speaker too, why not use elu/delu instead of elx/delx? I think language evolves as times change and there's nothing wrong with using slang like that till it becomes more normalized and unlike "x", "u" is actually something you can say out loud without sounding ridiculous, I admit I don't really like interacting with other people from my own country and I have no brazilian friends at all but I saw some brazilian streamers just refer to Kris like "A Susie, O ralsei, E Kris", I think that's fine and good, speaking as someone who is nonbinary as well.Though again, I don't enjoy speaking with other people from my own country because everything being so gendered as you say makes me kind of want to kill myself, so I can't judge you for acting the way you do around normalfags, as long as you use they/them when speaking in english I'd say you're not a bad person at all.
>>573054327the fuck you say this shit for
>>573054327Have you considered therapy
>>573054404That's true, the Soul does control Frisk through the entire game, unlike Deltarune
>>573054219You wouldn't be supposed to be able to do it on your first playthrough
i'm fucking dying i love this general >>573054327
>>573054327the ethical thing to do here would be to cut off your dick so she could use it herself as necessary
>>573053575Yes, I had fun with Chapter 5 even if it was weaker than I was expecting and not quite as good as the 4 before it. I look forward to seeing what happens in 6/7.
>>573054289I've come to see her as an actual mother figure, warts and all and I can't bring myself to get big boners from her
>>573053726I'll suckle it up!
>>573054327idk what you're talking about i just read this post out of context and i wanna say i think that scenario's hot
>>573054327These are the kinds of hypotheticals I live for.
>>573048236Push this on social media as him being a crypto transphobe like you all pushed Noelle being raped in chapter 4 so Mouse can be removed from the game
>>573054449Answer THE FUCKING QUESTION
>Susie is only happy in the timeline where the Dreemurr and Holiday families are destroyed by tragedy and Kris drags her around as a pawn on their Dark World Suicide QuestThis feels significant but I can't quite grasp the specifics of it
why is Orange a Rayman
This game should be called deltarape considering how often that comes up
>>573053835Why be disingenuous? EVERY chapter had something, even Chapter 1 with Kris' soullessness reveal and Chapter 3 with Knight reveal/battle, but Chapter 5 had nothing.>but Asgore kidnappedKidnappings are old news. Was known even by in-Universe characters from the very start of the chapter.>but Noelle inviteToo little, too late. If it was reveal to adults, then it would've been a "WOW" moment, but as it is, it's a nothingburger.>But Susie's home lifewas known since Chapter 2, also it will never be a "Wow!" moment even if it was actual reveal.
I will not make fun of the uncs because sooner than I would like I will also be an unc. However, and I ask this in good faith, how did you get into deltarune when undertale released in your early 20’s? I was under the impression deltarune’s target audience was people who played undertale as cringe middle schoolers and toby got his hooks into their gay little brains deep enough that it stuck. How did exposure to undertale even affect you as an adult, shouldn’t you have been immune? If I hadn’t played undertale in middle school, deltarune would have passed me by and I would dismiss it the same way I do TADC now, as a fun thing for a younger demographic.
>>573053835>gaster/friend-brained theorist people hated itI liked it a lot, I feel like we don't talk enough about how numbers in the Dark World are fake and can be manipulated, it's just that Flowery was the only guy who didn't buy into the keyfabe. Meanwhile Ralsei is this stingy railroady DM who is implied to have way more control over the adventure scenarios than we realize. Like if he wanted to he can inflate his own stats and end every battle but he doesn't because he's scared of what will happen.Ralsei also has some parallels to Noelle he even has a line very very similar to "Watch what happens when I cast a spell I don't know!". Similar to the Knight and Weird Route Noelle, his powers might be multiversal via attacking the Light World form in the Dark World.Ralsei's "firegrave" or whatever you call it might be the counterpart to snowgrave but it could also be what ends the world given Hometown is surrounded by trees and everyone would die if there's a forest fire. Both cops are out of comission too(Napstablook doesn't count the fuck do they even do). Which means Hometown is in immediate danger to any criminal or environmental hazards. Given that Kris is following some kind of "script" with the Knight, this is likely purposeful as Hometown is supposed to be in some kind of immediate danger maybe to justify The Roaring or some shit.Anyways subscribe to my Forest Fire Theory, I think it's peam.
I love Mew Mew so much...
There are many kris selfinserters even if they're antiplayer
Actually I wonder.... Since it seems minor option selects heavily influence how the story goes I wonder if we can log what influences what, do a "sleep run" and see what a (you)-less soul does on default.
>scrolling through folders>find noelle and kris in bikini bottom image>dated tail end of 2025Fucking hell
>>573054774>still in his "so beyond that" teen phase
>>573054557
>>573054774Undertale was for early 20-somethings who played Cave Story and Live-a-Live as kids and that's me
>>573054774>who played undertale as cringe middle schoolersi was a highschooler (14) so that's why...i don't mind aging but man it does stress me out sometimes when i go on twitter and everyone into this thing is like 16 - 20
MAKE AN ACCOUNT AND VOTE FOR METTATON NOW!!!!!!!!!!!https://www.tumblr.com/mimosa-sexypeople-contests-2026/820791611023851520/tumblr-sexyman-contest-2026-round-5-partAND TENNA, TENNA IS 0.1% AWAY FROM WINNING!!!!!!https://www.tumblr.com/mimosa-sexypeople-contests-2026/820791580476735488/tumblr-sexyman-contest-2026-round-5-part-1-dr/replies/821239818255269888
dayum koi, you didn't have to go so hard
>>573054327I'd shlick to a story like that
>>573054327Do you enjoy doing it? I presume in this hypothetical it’s more like an obligation than something you’re doing for fun. More like a “Hey, it’s Tuesday. Time for your regularly scheduled raping.”Than a “Heh, guess I better save your life. I’m doing this for your sake, not mine.”
>>573054930nyo~
>>573054774Undertale came out when I was in college and I thought it was cool. I just like it.
>>573054774Toby made Undertale for his millennial friends to play
>>573054085So, it's true. All /v*/ boards are full of underage. Remember to report all posts that explicitly confess at being underage.
>>573054930You couldn't rape me into making an account if you tried
My issue with twisted route theories is why the weird path exists after ch 2 besides tricking you away from the main quest line with the thorn ring that the sword route and spamtons dialogue are advertising
>>573054774I'm 31I played Undertale the year of it's release and I helped fund the kickstarter.I read Homestuck when it was being activly created
>>573048236it's foreshadowing that Susie is a human and only 1/16th monster heritage
>>573053575No but I'll make my own Deltarune with blackjack and hookers
>>573054930>Doofenshmirtz winningI had no idea Tumblr was this reddit this is like voting for Waluigi in smash
>>573054327This was the plot of an actual h-anime and it was good.But to answer your hypothetical. It is unethical to give someone life saving medical treatment if it is against their will so in this specific context it would be wrong.HOWEVERI really must call into question the premise itself because i doubt very much you could find a real world person especially a woman who would prefer death over sex. The metaphor of course being that this is an allegory for the soul and kris. But keep in mind that Kris takes us into his body to stay alive so he is defacto consenting to it.
>>573054774I saw a thumbnail of undyne battle sprite and couldn't comprehend what the hell that ugly thing was, saw a clip of the battle and thought that was interesting gameplay, opened a playthrough on yt and ended up watching from undyne to the end of game, bought game and played it myself and started digging into the FUN.
>>573054327
>>573054953I don't agree with their opinion but they're so right about the "media literacy" thing. It's just used by smug morons by dismiss any interpretation that aren't their own.
>>573054449Anon read too many Xianxia stories. He might need a break from Chinese web-novels.
>>573055057bear in mind the owner of those polls has a huge bias towards doof and it's rumored that they bot votes to make him win
>>573054085/utg/ is the family I neglect
>>573054953i skimmed it but he's pretty correct if chapter 5 really was a rushed chapter though then i guess it makes sense, he didn't have enough time to figure out how to make it really tie back to the rest of deltarune's themes. the festival could've been a great way to do that (imagine the fandom's collective shock if there was a flashback segment where you played as kris), but alas
FLOWER MANFLOWER MANWITH HIS HEARTIN THE SAND
>>573054534Abort2 is 99.999999999% identical to a normal playthrough so if the game genuinely expects you to do it AFTER a normal playthrough then Toby is stupid and bad at game design.
our heros
>>573054970>>573054986Please I think Mettaton is going to lose either way but at the very least vote for Tenna he was winning yesterday...>>573055057There are some characters winning other polls that I didn't even know existed, entirely different ecosystem there.
>>573055132Lmfao
>>573055132Noelle would say thatActually is Noelle that kind of edgy to bring up rape like that
>>573054102Berdly isnt obsessed with Noelle because he knows she's fucking nuts.
>>573054525SOUL is not a third entity. There are only two entities: Frisk and Chara.
>>573054930Voted James and Doof specifically because I hate Mettaton so fucking much, eat shit
>>573052963Orange is a body diversity allegory. She was born with Stuart Little Syndrome, and it's not her fault. Ralsei shouldn't bully her for it.
>>573055253pic made me realize the angel/devil motif >kris is a demon serving darker powers >noelle is the angel he's dragging down into hell >now this is flipped on its head by noelle dragging them both into the lake (hell/death/etc.)
>>573054774Do you think when people turn 30 they just go>that's it, no more fun, time to mow the lawn this weekend and beat my wife>i will do nothing else
>>573055178That's really funny.
>>573055006I would have to hand it to him at that point.
>>573055315Does Berdly have that sort of survival instinct?
>>573053575I've replayed Chapter 1 & 2 enough that I can confidently say I like both, but I really disliked 3, thought 4 was just okay, 5 was fun from a gameplay standpoint but disappointing in most other ways, and that the weird route has been a snoozefest after Chapter 2. So, I only like about half of the game. If Toby knocks it out of the park with the last two chapters, I think I'll be able to say that I like the game overall, but I don't feel very optimistic anymore.
>>573055359>Ralsei shouldn't bully her for it.Yeah but she called Ralsei an ugly rat, maybe don't dish it out if you can't take it
>>573054817Soul/Pink/Gaster is the endgame throuple
Surely the pure crystal must have another use beside the twisted sword that you can't get in the normal/pacifist, right?
>>573055390yes
>>573054774I played it mid twenties after a friend recommended it to me after I finished the Mother series.And I've been following since.
>>573054774You have to be at least 18 in order to post on this site. Honestly, they should setup keyword autoban on all /v- boards at this point.
>>573055248Isn't killing Susie and Ralsei a pretty massive change already?
Vote on the most mischaracterized Deltarune characterhttps://poal.me/v1wnhy
>>573055390They do, then they turn 30 themselves and have to quickly justify why they haven't killed themselves yet.
>>573055523You can look through it to get some cryptic nonsense that reveals the deepest lore if you're Media Literate enough
>>573054061>The thing Seam can do with the Shadow Crystals is create the Twisted SwordMalius creates the twisted sword thoughever
I am in my 30s. I learned the most important thing in life is fat cat tits
>>573054953holy trvke
>>573054102Berdly doesn't like Noelle that way though. He was just pretending to because he thought she had a crush on him and he felt obligated to reciprocate. Susie is closer to his type.
>>573055390you're supposed to delete your personality, choose a sports team to root for, and subsist on a steady media diet of airport novels and reality shows
>>573054327What if all this but Mettaton rapes and he made both Thriller and Space Oddity
>>573052963For the same reasons Pink is read as an allegory for that stuff, you could also read Orange as one. Like it's not even up for debate because that's exactly how they are. That's how they've chosen to live their lives. That said, this shows the fault in thinking something is symbolic of something you want, vs reflecting the actual themes in the work.
>>573055390This is unironically how life was supposed to be except replace 30 with 18. When you become an adult it is time to put away childish things and contribute to society and raise a family. Society making videogames a culturally accepted hobby for anyone but children directly correlates to the decline in birthrates and further infantilization of society. Everything is going to hell because people are refusing to grow up and engage with the world instead of passively playing all day like overgrown toddler.I think this is the main theme of Deltarune too. That playing pretend in the dark world while the real world goes to shit is a maladaptive coping mechanism.
>>573055690Mettaton would not do that.
I only post here when I need to jack off. That's why I need to rape Kris so badly
>>573055160okay but some people are genuinely fucking retarded and can't interpret basic storytelling, what do you want people to call it aside from "media illiteracy"?would you be happy if people just used different buzzwords like saying they have poor reading comprehension instead?
>>573053503>>573053738>>573054346Found ithttps://files.catbox.moe/aps5mm.png
>>573055761>words typed by a stupid 21 year old wait a few years and see how you feel
Guys, I noticed something about the Roaring Knight animations. They have been shown drooling and slumped over while floating.Does it imply that the Roaring Knight is a zombie/corpse?
>>573054989My issue with it is that if you abort in chapter 2 then everything snaps back to the normal route with characters even referencing things that didn't happen like Noelle pulling out the robot face disguise out of nowhere when she never made it. It feels like an afterthought and not an intended path for the player to take. If you abort in 4 or in 5 then there's plenty of acknowledgement that you did, but not in 2.
>>573054830You can't actually do a run like that, because default saves often pick impossible options (like `you gifted a plushie to [nobody]` in Chapter 2, which is not a valid choice (nor it is a "good" choice). Also it lacks recruits, which will 100% prevent you from reaching True End.
Six or Seven months until Chapter 6
>>573055475I feel very much the same, and I think a lot of other people do too. Chapter 5 was the point of no return for the whole game, everyone will rightfully judge the game based off the first 5 chapters and not the small handful that's left. And it's just not powerful enough to surpass Undertale unless the ending is perfect
>>573054814>I liked it a lot, I feel like we don't talk enough about how numbers in the Dark World are fake and can be manipulated, it's just that Flowery was the only guy who didn't buy into the keyfabe. Meanwhile Ralsei is this stingy railroady DM who is implied to have way more control over the adventure scenarios than we realize. Like if he wanted to he can inflate his own stats and end every battle but he doesn't because he's scared of what will happen.Personally I think things like that are just hardlocked by the prophecy into inevitably happening. Flowery's fake stats not doing shit against the Knight and being immediatly aborted as if some form of inside force doesnt allow that to happen made me immediatly remember those people who give themselves infinite stats in the game's code to try and one shot bosses youre meant to pacify like K Round and Flowery where the game just instantly crashes and stops you from doing that action because it goes against it's own presets. Seems a bite device theory-y but the prophecy is personally aborting Flowery in ways Flowery himself wasnt aware of but Ralsei was (there's even a brief chat about Ralsei and Seth talking about how Flowery likes to act like he knows more than he does when he's not THAT knowledgeable)If Ralsei tried to instaburn Queen the moment she went into frame the same outcome would happen for trying to violently burst the prophecy open, he hopes that by digging through cracks in the script in more subtle ways like sparing instead of fighting that he can get a different and more happy ending (but only Snowgrave can really dig through the game's little holes)
>>573055815Accept that people think differently than you.
>>573055390i get what you're saying but playing video games marketed towards children and teenagers is a bit different from other hobbies like clubbing, drawing, writing, etc. things that actually foster your spirit and mind, let alone participating in fandom shitthat said toby is like mid thirties and still making the game so eh
>>573055794Dess......
>>573055761people are capable of having a job and playing videogames you know.
>>573054327type shit you ask your friends before making Fear and Hunger
>>573055828AWESOME!!!!!!!! Thank you for your hard work looking for that I applaud you and your selfless act!
>>573055882Well then that's what Kris did, somehow.
>>573055556You don't kill Susie and Ralsei in chapter 2
>The light and dark worlds must exist in balance.>"Balance" means "eradicate all dark worlds" because every new one that exists brings us closer to the end of everything.
>>573055761Man you are one those retards
>>573055926there's a difference between having differing interpretation, and being sub-literate and unable to understand the surface level text
>>573056049Damn that sucks
>>573055939so what's an adult game then
>>573055475>>573055904you guys are old and thats ok
>>573055761The escapism badfags are not sending their best
>>573055939videogames are actually shown to prevent cognitive decline in people and they actively keep the mind healthy.meanwhile most boomers are rotting their minds sitting in front of their tv's for 4 hours a day drooling while watching seinfeld reruns and fox news.
>>573055882Kris default is to just beat the shit out of everyone?
>>573055761I think it's impossible to post a take like this in a place like this, unless you're also admitting you're part of the problem.>I think this is the main theme of Deltarune too. That playing pretend in the dark world while the real world goes to shit is a maladaptive coping mechanism.I thought so too at first (especially since Toby indirectly spoke about how Omori touches on a lot of themes Deltarune does, and seemed to worry that people would think he was copying Omocat) but now it doesn't seem like it's going to be that straightforward. Especially with how the game acknowledges that it's a game with rules and boundaries in the weird route. Themes of "it's bad to escape to a fake world" are weird if the real world is also acknowledged as a fake world.
>>573056054>one light world>one dark worldit's that simple
>>573056161I can feel myself rotting and it hurts
>>573056039Kris' story would be completely different from the ground-up. You can't recreate it with mere dialogue choices
>>573055761I remember 3 anons talking about their grandparents enjoying deltarune for quick laughs
I'm going to go cook lunch and I hope to come back to more people posting about their faves pissing themselves instead of whatever it is you guys are talking about right now!
Would it be weird if Toby revealed that there is actually a real person named Kris whom he based the character off of? So in a sort of metanarrative aspect Kris was trapped in the game world and needs the player’s help to get free.
I DONT LIKE THE GAME AT ALLTHATS WHY I TALK ABOUT IT ALL DAY ONLINE
>>573053575chapter 1 is way too childish, i don't care about it beyond the fight with jevil chapter 2 is fun but it does have bad segments (dance break with the cds was corny). also: weird route chapter 3... is full of heart, very good character building chapter chapter 4 is genuinely incredible chapter 5 is mid. the flowers suck and the new mechanics don't really hit because the story just isn't there
>>573056187in reality, when it comes to escapism, deltarune is putting on its nuance hat and context shirt and saying "it depends".
>>573055320Oh yeah? Then why is Chara asking us, the player, for the Soul?
>>573055926Some people think in a retarded way
>>573056054Hello Star Wars
>>573056364>>573056098Just kill them I guess
>>573056226>one light world (the whole entire planet)>one dark world (a dinky little kingdom in some random school closet)
>>573056268Well no, because that's just saying YOU didn't do those things, cause you didn't, Kris could have very well given the plushie to someone we just need to find out who has it. Do we know what happens when the plushie is given to every option?
Fave’s bathroom is swarming with mosquitoes and roaches again…
>>573056096>>573056002>>573055849Am I wrong? I see it everywhere. Grown men playing pretend instead of making money, building something, fixing something or doing something useful. If youve ever wondered why it seems like everything in life sucks and everything is getting worse. Maybe, just maybe it might have something to do with grown men giving up their responsibilities to play pretend and act like overgrown toddlers. Look at your total playtime on Steam and ask yourself. What other skills could I have learned if I devoted 10,000+ hours to something else? But you didnt. You wasted your life on bing bing wahoo and making lights flash on a screen.
>>573056435>he thinks there's a whole planet outside of Hometown
>>573056186It's SOUL default, not Kris default.Anyway, if you skip chapters, only some are recruited. Miss Mizzle is skipped, for example, WaterCooler is skipped too, etc.
Im going to laugh so hard if the Angel turns out to be an actual fucking angel.Not the player.Not a programmer.Not some outside entity.Just a divine being chilling in Heaven. Like, the actual afterlife for Lightners. lol
The ASGORE chapter. By the end of the chapter, we learned literally nothing about him. All we learn is that he was obsessing over proving the existence of the Dark Worlds to try to alleviate some guilt for some incident that happened in the past. That obsession caused a permanent rift in his family, and it only spiraled him further downward since he felt if only he could prove he wasn't at fault, his life would go back to the way it was. While I love that part of Ch.5, we already put a lot of those pieces together. We already knew he was involved with Dark Worlds, that he felt responsible for some incident, and it connected to Dess. We finish this chapter with no additional revelations, just confirmations. With the way this chapter was being hyped by Toby's newsletters, we were expecting much more. More information on Dess, Ralsei, more Snowgrave content than a 5 minute cutscene. The previous chapters were very good at dripfeeding information, giving us just enough to allow us to speculate about what comes next. The only new information we get in this chapter apart from confirmations is that Ralsei knows Kris is opening the dark fountains, he just doesn't do anything because he has faith in Kris. Kris opens another Dark Fountain. Awesome, we knew they've been doing that already. Susie begins to suspect them for what seems like only a moment, only for them to go "nah definitely not". And that's the extent of which Kris is shown to be relevant in any way in this chapter. Flowery seems to know Kris and the purple one had met, interesting except that already happened with Tenna, it isn't that surprising anymore that Kris would have known these characters before the fountain's creation. At the end, Kris picks up the Shelter code, and right before the slowest possible attempt of ripping it up, Susie runs in and grabs it and says "wow look at this, looks like we can go to the shelter now" and that's that. It feels like lazy writing, not bad but not interesting.
>>573055761>be me, 25>have a serious job as a doctor (general clinic)>"oh wow that new fun game with those fun characters, neat secrets and short gags came out with a new chapter!">Play it for a couple hours>Talk about it to some friends that are interested and in /utg/ for 1-2 weeks>Not get obsessed with it and draw my favorite characters using my period blood>Move on with lifeIt aint that hard anon
>>573056497Either way, I wanna know what the default is outside of our control, if it's intentionally framing that (our) control is the problem I wanna see what happens without it
>>573056049because you need the twisted sword for it
>>573056450Ralsei and Susie plushie show up later if you actually played Chapter 2. Noelle's presumably will show in Chapter 6, and Berdley in ch6 or 7.
>>573055761Most of the problems you're describing are societal and stem from a lack of purpose in life, coupled with a million other problems on top of it like social media frying everybody's brains. Carl Yung can teach you a thing or two>>573056329I think chapter 1 was the most mature, like Susie confronting Lancer, King tricking Ralsei, King getting overthrown, our main characters getting thrown in a real jail with real consequences. Chapter 5 is basically a guided tour in comparison, and so are a lot of the other chapters
>>573056474do you really think that everything in life is getting worse because some nerds are playing videogames or is this just a bad attempt at a joke?
>>573056287Keyword here being Grandparents. When you are old and used up and retired that is the last time in life you are permitted to enjoy wasting time on frivolous activities because you have made your contribution and hopefully saved enough to comfortably retire.
>>573055761I hate video games because they stop me from beating my 16 year old wife.
posting bait on /utg/ is a very productive use of your time actually
Just finished the weird route on chapter 2, is there any way to skip chapter 3 if I am doing the weird route? It's not like there are any differences from the normal route, no?I don't want to fight the knight again
>>573056584If you have to replay at least five and a half whole chapters of entirely identical content with no acknowledgement that abort2 even happened until after you get the sword then that's shitty game design.
adults playing video games isn't inherently a problem, the issue is most video games are juvenile
Somewhere out there, there's a universe where SURVEY_PROGRAM never took off and Toby only made chapters 1 and 2 before ending up unable to continue and complete the restI wonder what kind of batshit insane theories people made in that universe, or if the game would still be on anyone's minds
>>573054953"Media literacy" in general is a meme/scam. The people who came up with the concept/ their spiritual successors are the only ones who are ever allowed to actually possess it. Anyone who disagrees with them on anything are by-definition "illiterate" consumers of media
can you get the ralsei plushie if you're doing weird routei want to edit my save but i don't want to break anything
Give to you!
>>573056806Play Kenshi
>>573056474did a "lifecoach" tiktoker tell you its immoral to enjoy life and the only thing that matters is to learn new skills and work hard?These people are hypocrites
>>573054327This is what Evenicle 2 is about
>>573056523Toby arbitrarily decided that the story must be 7 chapters along and also that it isn't allowed to get really serious or answer anything important until chapter 6, so chapter 5 is left spinning its wheels for most of the runtime and not telling us anything we didn't already know beyond a reasonable doubt.
I have noticed that castle town doesn't have a bathroom, why so? Does piss and shit turn into a darkner?
>Thank you for watching my dream.
How mad Normal Route players will be if it ends in a bad ending and you can only get the True (good) ending by playing the Weird Route.
>>573056806thisnewer video games and some film are made for the young, and the young are attention addled and unable to really tell fiction from reality >>573056474>Look at your total playtime on Steam and ask yourself. What other skills could I have learned if I devoted 10,000+ hours to something else? But you didnt. You wasted your life on bing bing wahoo and making lights flash on a screen.this is the only good point in your post. at least pick up art or try reading books, anons
>>573055918Thanks for the reply anon. Yeah that makes sense. Sorta reminds me of how Noelle dragging Kris into the lake in the Weird Route parallels how Ralsei and Kris bypass the spikes blocking their path.I think the Knight also simply exists on a higher plane of reality like a user with admin privileges. It can win without engaging in battle via cutscenes and kills Flowery by attacking him in the Light World while still inside the Dark World. I think showing this is purposeful because you can't defeat the Knight by doing infinite damage in battle or through story progression. You have to corner them via more abstract means. Maybe the answer is getting them stuck in a softlock or something.
>>573057002Ralsei eats it off-camera
>>573056474Feels like bait but I'll respond regardless. This is the perception of someone who has extremely limited interaction with the real world. Yeah, adults who sit around around do nothing all day exist. They're also a minority in the scheme of things. Most people work 40 hours a week, whether that's slinging boxes around in a warehouse, front desk at a car dealership, R&D in a lab setting, teaching children, doing IT support for a company etc. There are people doing work that needs to be done literally everywhere, all the time.You only see grown men playing toys because one way or another that's the only people you're exposed to.
>>573056801i don't agree, it's a short and easy game and the payoff is worth it
>Expedition 33 and Deltarune going "Escapism is good actually"
>>573050976It's got to be sunk cost fallacy at this point.
>>573057042
>>573056662>When you are old and used up*gramama was used up*gramps was used up
>>573057054Art and reading is escapism, too.
>>573056790I think there's one change in the dialogue of chapter 3 in the weird route. Even if there isn't, you'll still need to go through chapter 3 to have a weird route save for chapter 4. You don't need to fight the knight, unless we get a "4/5 shadow crystal weird route" route.
>>573057110*sit around AND do nothing
>>573056538And those couple hours are time spent not brushing up on the latest medical news and procedures meaning you arent living up to your full potential and are indeed putting the lives of your patients at risk.
>>573055462>warns Kris about Susie in chapter 1>picks up on snowgroom in chapter 2 when no one else did>warns Kris about getting cucked at the festival>only one who noticed Kris spliced his Goldeneye runsYes
>>573057278you're right, but art and reading are better for you spiritually and mentally. if you spent one year drawing every day then you are building a fun skill you can apply to so many aspects of your life (you could draw fanart, you could draw your own ideas, you can draw other people's ideas, etc.), if you read you get all the mental benefits of reading, if you just play vidya then all you've done is play vidya
>>573057369Lay off the fertiliser flowery
>>573057178People seriously try to argue this posts picrel is bad
>>573056474It's not that deep man, you need hobbies in your life to motivate you and also find connection with others.The reason (you) can't make any friends is because you have no hobbies and don't participate in local events like book clubs or cons.
>>573055761I dont need a lecture from a 34 year old man ERPing as a japanese dog.
>>573056474You are wrong, yeah. Your mindset is poisonous garbage that doesn't help you in any way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYM7CJSJCtY
>>573057002Castle Town does have a bathroom, it's that locked door behind the cauldron on the ground floor of the castle.And because Susie is spending long stretches in Castle Town, it's full of her Dark World sentient piss and shit.
>>573057325Okay (Anon doesnt know the field hasnt changed at all since the 20th century beyond finding ways to get more money off people)
Society bad because escapism. Do you agree?
>all this talk about growing up, employment, contribution to society bullshit, escapsim blah blah blahin like 5 years robots will do my job while I draw and write deltarune porn 24/7
>>573056593Social media is also a time waster. They are not an either/or mutually exclusive issue. People waste so much time on retarded shit that it isnt funny.>>573056628It hasnt been just "some nerds" for the better part of 30 years now. Almost everyone is addicted to games, social media, television, the internet, etc. A collosal amount of human time and potential is being wasted on entertaining ourselves to death. And the worst part is its almost impossible to explain to people why its bad because most people cant think beyond>thing feels good therefor it is goodIts like trying to reason with a crackhead about how if they just quit smoking crack their life would improve >but it feela good therefore it must be good
>>573057369How old is that Aqua cosplayer real quick
>>573057178no it's "escapism important and meaningful but consumes you if you don't stay grounded in reality"
>Paheal mods are deleting Aqua pics again>But you can still watch an animated video of child Billie Eilish getting fucked with bodywriting on her ass encouraging pedosWhew glad we did the moral thing there:^)
local imbecile feels entitled to tell people how to live their livesmore at 11
>/utg/-anon has his midlife crisis at 19 years old
The happiness of a thing comes from the realization of its nature. Human beings are inherently social creatures who realize themselves only in social contexts. Video games are a form of multimodal communication. That is, they are inherently social. They are therefore a legitimate exercise of a basic human faculty directly connected to our happiness. To engage in a dialogue with Toby Fox, to explore his imagination, is to do something truly and joyfully human.>but you could be working instead!What do we work for? Work is instrumental. It’s a means, not an end. We live to bring joy to ourselves and others. Arts, games, play, conversation, there are ends, things enjoyable in themselves, the things we work to make possible. They don’t need justification. They are direct realization of who and what we are. They are our happiness. Leisure is culture. Leisure is joy.
the only books you're allowed to read are about stoicism and if you ever have fun you will die
>>573057628they're a hag, just look at the face
>>573057160>shortIt's like 20 hours at least and more if you do side content>payoff is worth itWe have no idea what the pay off for the Twisted Sword is
>Deltarune is about how escapism is bad>The scene where Asgore rejects the perfect illusory world to face the dangers threatening the real world is actually about how Asgore is a neglectful shitty father Make it make sense
>Thank you for watching my peen.
>>573057717You're right I can sexualize her
>>573057178Expedition 33 is an escapism bad game though. It's not even subtle about it.
>>57305762820 according to bio
>Thank you for impregnating my friends
>>573057751>We have no idea what the pay off for the Twisted Sword isyeah, isn't speculating about that the topic of the conversation?
>>573057802Because it was never about escapism bad, Toby just wants to make a gay furry adventure with a specific ending in mind
Escapism is bad is a good message but it falls short coming from someone like Toby whose life must be good, all things considered. I know he has a hand issue but I've also known people who had hand issues and they still had to go sling boxes at Amazon for 16 hours a day
btw anons, there is not a single self-help book thats worth reading.None.They are a scam industry.
Deltarune is a game about how toby doesn't know if escapism is bad or not
>>573057624That's not how it works anon. You are wearing your blinders a little too tight.We are monkeys on a shitpile, and we die. There is no purpose beyond what you make up for yourself or get from someone else who made it up first. Life is not pretty, and there's no escape hatch other than death, so humans invented the ability to escape it in other ways without realizing it at first. Storytelling, religion, music. Now it's bigger than ever because we're bigger than ever, but it's no different. I do my job for money so I can use a portion of it to survive and another portion to pay for my forms of escapism, same as everyone else on this planet
>>573057698Thank you Flowery, I love you Flowery.
>>573056296I keep wondering if the shitty roommate Toby based Napstablook off of is doing well right now, I hope they are.>>573056468I used to let flies swarm my room because they are cute in my eyes but I had to stop due to health issues caused by them, sucks because they are really cute and I liked seeing them fly around my computers and stuff, society should really be nicer to bugs.>>573056916Thank you! I'm eating your flesh!>>573057698VERY good post the only one so far regarding this topic that didn't make me roll my eyes and scroll past, as expected of a Flowery King!
as of typing this i've been reading deltarune ao3 fics all day longwhat have you all been up to?
Deltarune is a gameand that's badbecause it doesn't make the log pile bigger
Do any of you actually have 10,000+ hours in video games on Steam?I've been using steam for 15+ years and i'm a big gamer but I don't think if you added up my time in every game i've played it would even reach 5000+. From a rough estimate it's closer to 2000-3000 ish.
>T-thank you for impregnating... me! ^w^
>>573057853I heard many people go "The Maelle ending where you continue the escapism is the morally good ending. You are an actual bad person if you pick the Verso ending"
>>573058045a small buttwork out and some stretching before my walk
When I was young and all I thought about was CRTS and freedom leitmotifs. Now, I'm 36, and all I think about is money.
JUSTIFY YOUR EXISTENCE TO ME /UTG/
>>573057972Read the Tao Te Ching.
>>573057972Fictional books (but only literary fiction, the classics and poetry) will teach you way more about life and human relationships than any self help book ever will/utg/ is still my fort bastione though ngl
>>573058045What tags are you reading?I woke up, checked /utg/, played minecraft, napped, then woke up again, checked /utg/, and am now going to eat the meal I just cooked.>>573058082I'm more of a reader than a gamer but I have 1500+ hours of TF2 on Steam from 2017-2021>>573058182I post the robot.
One day someone’s gonna invent a gender swap serum and overnight the establishment’s propaganda on trans women is gonna change to telling them to become tradwives
we are so dead now what the heck
>>573057884
>>573057972>mewtroon you especially should read dworkin
>>573057515jap artists really love that thing
>>573057881No, the topic of the conversation is whether or not abort2 will be mandatory for the shadow crystal questline and if it's good game design to spring a requirement for an entire second playthrough on the player at the last minute
>>573058182watch this, motherfucker *attempts to do a backflip, fails miserably*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJmVM3TLiok
>>573058017Forgot to mention drugs, that's another big one.In general, your anxiety over productivity is a story you swallowed. There is no reason to maximize productivity from humans. It's pathetic that we've built our society around it and use it as a status symbol. The people with the most money don't work, as a rule. Monkeys sitting at the top of the banana pile, pretending they're the reason it's there when really it's just become too tall for us to see them clearly all the way up there
>>573054930>>573055057Rigged vote. The person running the account is a giant faggot
>>573058234off topic posting
Noelle ia Toby's selfinsert. He is a rich kid. He tries to be nice to others but deep in him he thinks everyone else is a npc.Escapism is bad for you npcs, you need to work to sustain Toby's lifestyle, only free person.
this is how plant reprouctive system looks like
>>573058045I set up artix on my uni computer I still need a good fave pale thoAside from that pretty good
>>573058182I love goot, hehe. Boo. hehe. ueleleuele>>573058285What's he staring at. My dik
>>573058045anything good
>>573058234this is off topic <3
>>573058154Because that's true, but they made the ending look like the bad ending compared to the other one.
>>573058210mostly kris-centric fics, mainly kerdly but i've read some fics about seth too, very few but i liked some
>>573058412no...
>>573058186I really should go back and finish the Zhuangzi because I was loving it, then I should read that as well, I wish I had infinite time every night, I hate that the nights end and I'm forced to live with people during the day, I want to spend 999999 hours at night just reading and resting, I started War and Peace (not chinese but still) a few weeks ago and barely made any progress, I have so much stuff to read and so little time or ability to focus when a bunch of shit happens around me, it sucks! but I love taoism the most of all religions even if I'm atheist I find their writings beautiful and the philosophy is great.>>573058481VERY good taste anon!!!>>573058354Damn, is it the same person that ran the poll with Sans and Reigen? I kinda just wanted to see Toby draw Tenna or Mettaton again.
>>573057369Wow flowery, you really grew out of your pot haha
>>573058154That take isn't wrong per se if it's just their opinion, but it's not at all how the game frames the endings and it's pretty heavily slanted to the escapism bad side. If someone just disagrees with the game's viewpoint then that's fine, if they think the game isn't espousing escapism bad then they're wrong.
>>573058389uooohhh child pistil erotic
>>573058182i am therefore i am
>>573056474Youre right and thats why China was justified when banned video game consoles for like 30 years.
I guess it never really clicked until now that the merciless thing that attacked the wet nose bandits was literally just Carol beating their asses
how many tries did eram take you all
My cold and calloused soul still weeps and yearns to save him, even after all this time.
One day someone’s gonna invent a species swap serum and overnight the establishment’s propaganda on monsters is gonna change to telling them to become mini-bosses
>>573058606the anon obsessed with flowery being fat must be overjoyed
>>573058389So you’re telling me Aqua’s looks like this when she’s naked?Still would
>>573058380>>573058462It was on topic for a different post. Forgot to link it. Just ignore me
What music will Ralsei listen to?
>>573053835>le only people who disliked Chapter 5 are gastertheoryfaggersChapter 5 is making me seriously question if the story is going in a direction I don't like and it's making me grow less and less fond of the main characters
>>573058762penis music
>>573058762Ralsei canonically loves the sound of his own voice
>>573054953>"MEDIA LITERACY" IS A HECKING BUZZWORD >displays media illiteracy Many MANY such cases
>>573058389So that's why seth "haven't decided it", the flowers can literally pick their sex and can still breed
>>573058762gay ass söy music
>>573058762https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P_rRGsNcq8
>>573058559I think he was. *boop*>>573058665Next chapter. Just you wait
>>573058674Yeah that ONE anon
pinkris lewd doodlehttps://files.catbox.moe/yoszyj.PNG
If we have to respect Oranges human identity, why didnt Kris just identify as a monster and force everyone to call them one?
>>573058851they can pollinate themselves too
>>573058928Hell yeah
What would you do to this flower, Anon?
https://youtu.be/4WdkcB9V2mcThis might be the farthest Toby has gotten to acknowledging gender politics. It was pretty funny when /v/ was freaking out and treating it like that scene in dragon age when this is very tame and subtle by modern standards. They don’t just go out the gate and say “This character uses they/them pronouns”
>>573058928nice work anon
>>573058389giving myself a new form of brain damage by jerking off to this exclusively
>>573058943What do you think the horns meant? They tried, and then the guilt over what happened made them feel like being alone made more sense
>>573058762deltarune ost, he literally hums it
>>573058928THE JOINTSYEEEEEEES
>>573059031Kiss her on the forehead and hold her close!
>>573058943You don't have to respect Orange though, the point is that Orange is ridiculous and cringe and you should hate her like Ralsei does
Since ralsei is attracted to kris who is non-binary we can conclude ralsei is canonically NOT gay
>>573058928Continue to feed the agenda, anon
>>573058831>>573053835I love how the cope has shifted from "you hate newnl chapter because it confirmed your theories were wrong" because chapter 5 was so full of nothing it didnt ruin anyone's theories
>>573059136SHUT UP YOU STUPID CHIBI!!!STOP BULLYING HER!
In ch7, would you pick Kris (drowned zombie, would die without you) or your wonderful creation to proceed
I am transphobic but I wouldn't be for Orange. She's a valid human being.
>>573058851Plants can be like a billion different sexes. So it makes sense for some of them to be "nonbinary" if they became human.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_reproductive_morphology#Terminology
>>573053835>Chapter 5 is the gameplay chapter with all sorts of cool shit done with the platformingEven then you have to be actually blind or illiterate to be one of the "NO PLOT DEVELOPMENT FLAT CHARACTERS" people>>573058831>going in a direction I don't like and it's making me grow less and less fond of the main charactersWhat about chapter 5 is so stylistically different than the rest of the game to date to make you feel that way? What inconsistencies in character development were there? In retrospect how was what we saw not properly foreshadowed?>inb4 muh suselle cuckoldry fetish
Shes a thread staple now whether you like it or not
>>573059148>Asriel is straight>Ralsei is only into Kris and hates (You)Gotefags can't stop losing
>>573059136>the point is the exact opposite of what it says
>Dark Worlds are manifested from the lighting of the mind >Kris is too mission focused to think otherwise so most Darkners are cartoony >every hot darkner is based on Kris’s taste in women >the flowers are an exception as they manifested their own bodies >Mew Mew is also an exception due to being possessed by a lightner who projected >another Lightner could potentially create a waifu fountain
>>573050472>toby didnt write it he only wrote the weird routeIs that confirmed?
>>573057413>if you spent one year drawing every day then you are building a fun skill you can apply to so many aspects of your life (you could draw fanart, you could draw your own ideas, you can draw other people's ideas, etc.)you could just use AI sir
>>573059218i could snowgrave berdlyi don't know if i could snowgrave a kawkaw...
>>573059107Kris stopped wearing the horns when Dess called them a filthy bloodsack and then Kris pushed her down the stairs
>>573058928Beautiful dollwife as always anon cheers
>>573059175It did, though? The thing that changed is that the theory stuff is so overgrown now that they can just go into denial mode and dive deeper into the youtube algo instead of acknowledging anything in the game. They can just make theories on top of theories now
>>573059267No because Toby wrote it all you stupid motherfucker
>>573059197I will find a temu soul so they don't die without us first
>>573059148Ralsei strikes me as bisexual desu
>>573059059That's like saying this is also shit it just stinks a little less than the usual manure we're used to
>>573059251Kris confirmed woman?????
>>573058943i do wonder if kris's theyness is an expression of not feeling like they fit as a monster and not even knowing what a human is supposed to be
The ways that Ralsei talks about his gender expression point way more strongly to him being some kind of genderfluid rather than transfem.
>>573059331Name 5 recently debunked theories
>>573059343He's pan with a preference for masculine-leaning presentation >>573059339
>>573059059This vague, skippable conversation with a non-character is hopefully as deep as he gets on it. Inshallah Tobais
>>573059267Confirmed false, yeah
Chapter 5? More like, Badpter 5
>>573058919n-no... hes was looking behind you...
>>573059197Kris because I want to rail her/I want him to rail me
If I told Aqua "stop pretending to be a child" would she snap and go adult mode or just keep pretending to be a dumb child?
>>573059267He acted out the outline, his team did the rest
>>573058389Now who's going to be daring enough to use this reference in art? is there a name for the plant equivalent to furries? photophiliacs? plantfuckers?
>>573059445It's not enough for the AGPs, they hate men and want to erase his male identity altogether
>>573059473I'm gonna rub is cute gote shote belly
>>573059197kris obviouslyhe's the character i've been piloting for almost 10 years. the vessel means nothing to me
>>573059197>would die without youLet me ask you to imagine this. You wake up in the morning and find yourself back to back in bed with an unconscious pianist. They have been found to have a fatal SOUL ailment, and the Society of Kris Lovers has canvassed all the available medical records and found that you alone have the right blood type to help. They have therefore kidnapped you, and last night the pianist's circulatory system was plugged into yours, so that your gaming skills can be used to extract poisons from their SOUL as well as your own. The director of the hospital now tells you, "Look, we're sorry the Society of Kris Lovers did this to you--we would never have permitted it if we had known. But still, they did it, and the pianist is now plugged into you. To unplug you would be to kill them. But never mind, it's only for seven chapters. By then they will have recovered from their ailment, and can safely be unplugged from you." Is it morally incumbent on you to accede to this situation? No doubt it would be very nice of you if you did, a great kindness. But do you have to accede to it?
Darkner reacts to Lightner Festival celebrations>I am GOBSMACKED
>>573059445>game where gender virtually never ever comes up>genderists still insist on seeing it everywhere and forcing their retarded gender headcanons onto a character alright
>>573059605im an agp trans woman and i love ralsei as a feminine man and hate the trans headcanons. now what
I must confess.Every day since Undertale, a part of my being was left cold and dead because of this stupid fucking kid. I don't know why.Sometimes I find myself crying over a fictional character in a video game, even depressed, like there is no hope or future.What did I lose to make me feel this way?
>>573057713>implying stoics even read anything from Marcus Aureliuslol, lmao evenalso reminder that Aurelius was a literal cuckold
>>573059605>they hate menNo, they just love to coom.
>>573059550she'd stab you with knives and kill you while giggling
>>573059743*kisses u*
>>573059254When does anyone other than Orange say you should respect Orange
>>573059585I dont think they have a name for themself
>>573059585the clinical term is dendrophilia
>>573059493I prefer it when Orange is drawn wearing Boxing shorts. It makes more sense than the dungaree design to me.
Toby just didint gaf in chapter 5 and assumed everyone had already everything ready with a 100% save fileLike first he didint take into concidiration that people might skip jevil and now the mikes
>>573059585someone already posted a picture a few days ago of flowery with a stamen penis
>>573059605>They hate men and want to erase his male identity altogether
>>573059445Ralsei is a sexless hermaphrodite
*dodges every shitpost in the thread* tch, you'll have to do better than that *flicks my nose with my thumb for some reason*
>>573059459They’ll probably have a conversation like this when it turns out Ralsei really is a trans girl.>Everyone, I’ve decided that from now on, you all refer to me as a PRINCESS of the dark.>It’s ok, ralsei! We still love you no matter what!And then every single chapter 6 thread is gonna e a billion posts shitting and pissing about it for the first 5 days.
>>573059743Tell your fellow AGP trans womens to stop saying that
>>573059903i could pound the fuck out of that bitch desu
>>573059197I love my vessel. I really do. But I'd pick Kris.Not because I like them, but because the world of "DELTARUNE" is not my world. Ultimately, Kris is from this world. Kris will continue existing in this world even when the game ends. I'm not going to kill them just for a few hours as my vessel before the game ends.
>>573059738LOL >>573059059
>>573059615
>>573059605they're still men themselves so this post is odd regardless i really doubt tralsei is anything but a particularly invasive headcanon
>>573059903this is what kris actually looks like
>>573059778Maybe you find him relatable to some degree
Heh, you think you can match my style?!
>>573059883There's a warning if you skipped the Mikes though
>>573059965he turned millions gay.
>>573059964>one conversation that you can missthat's part of the >virtually never comes up
Does interacting with random objects for flavor text change anything? Like if I don’t check everything beyond missing flavor text (I’ve already read it), does it actually change anything?
>>573059197Vessel unless Kris is also the based blood type D
blue and ralsei femboy sex
>>573059446A ton of fringe theories got blown out with the lightworld stuff, so I legitimately could just give you a bunch of those. Or even just every prediction that turned out to be wrong, which there are tons of. Would be a waste of time, though.As for new stuff, I think the more important stuff was in the darkworld, personally: Ralsei confirmed to be very powerful, Ralsei confirmed to be able to edit stats and create 'darkworld content' like Flowery. Flowery needing to use a Floradinn to start combat with the Knight proves that combat is part of the world and not part of "the device". The Knight can just ignore these things at will, though, which implies they're a higher order being in flatland like (us). Kris is confirmed able to talk to darkners before opening fountains. Chapters are confirmed to exist in-universe before we play them, with the Chapter 7 Side B mention.
>>573060140Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't
>>573058674>>573058921fat flowery friend did you see my post last thread give me more fat flowery ideas if you like
>>573053876no wonder everyone is obsessed with aqua
>>573060220Okay, I was going to skip stuff to speed run back to where I was yesterday in Chapter 1, but I’ll just spam check everything to be safe…never know with Tricky Toby
the next chapter will look like Mortal Combat with photos of real people dressed up as the Fun Gang
>>573059059>no matter what you are, we're all gonna beat you with hammers for your crimeskeeeeeeek, I shouldn't have skipped this part of the game
>>573059965Still one of the best shota lewds ever, even after 10 years>>573060046I'm millions
>>573054953yeah, i'm mad that friend and gaster ended up being frauds too buddy
I look like this. Who want me?
>>573052717Motivations don’t make sense unless they’re being mind controlled
>>573047894people been saying for a year that dark/star is about stickers but I look in the actual game and it's tenna and the weather duo. it's obviously meant to be a TV star element.
>>573060321this reads like it could've come from a 2017 tumblr post. deeply unfunny
Flowery man is so erotic
Is Look Outside worth picking up if I liked Undertale and Lisa?
>>573060395i didn't ask, tranny
>>573059605Waow>>573060395I didn't ask, chud
Fave just finished eating and already feels like throwing up a trillion times...>>573060413So true!>>573060432Absolutely worth it, It was my game of the year last year, It's that good, phenomenal and you will definitely enjoy it if you like Deltarune and Lisa
Deltarune just might be the most important up to date progressive piece of queer media ever made and that's a wonderful thing
>>573060395gender shit will just never be funny to anyone that hasn't been groomed by the fag mafia beforehand
>they're is straight up posting gote porn in /v/ while there's barely anything here
>>573060395Tumblrina game bro
>>573060493I don't like Deltarune though
>>573060503go back
>>573060503here you bitch
>>573058928Crazy good. I love their interlaced fingers and Pink's tail curling into a heart. I wish more R34 looked grounded like this instead of literal foot-long dongs and unreadable globes of fat flopping all over the place and 10000 action lines and dialog like "AHH!! FILL ME UP! <33" even when the character would never say such a thing.
>>573060497what does the hammers joke have to do with gender
>>573060503/utg/ is not a Ralsei friendly thread. We ALL hate Ralsei.
I don't care about shit like jevil being mentioned even if you never met him or ribbons not being found or whatever because those feel like edge cases that most players wont even notice. What actually bothers me is something a lot of players will run into in the new chapter where reading Azzy's letter says it's the "Very first thing" you're going to do even if you leave it and do stuff like make Toriel toast first. Just felt very lazy and unToby like to not have it even change slightly if you waited.
>>573060437>tranny thinks that being called trans is a big insult kek>>573060497agreed i'm glad seth will never be relevant again, it doesn't really mean anything if it's some literal who character most of the fandom is gonna move on from within a few months
>>573057507Nihilists slop
IM PORNLOOKERBINCH
>>573054953I ain't reading all that shit, just tell me if he brings up dess knight or not so I know if I should give a shit about his opinion.
oh ok thread is still shit. bye
>>573058017>>573058346Your life is being actively made worse by the fact that everyone has this mindset that escaping from the real world during their most productive years is a good thing. You escape into a digital fantasy world while the actual real world around you goes to hell. And because things get worse you and everyone else needs more of their digital drug to keep escaping further and further. When the simple but difficult decision would be to put away childish thinga and put in the work to make the real world better.>>573057110Unless you are working a manual labor job that literally forces you to pay attention to what you are doing or else risk getting killed most office drones spend a good portion of their day browsing their phones. I cannot tell you how many times ive gone to a medical appointment only to see the staff eyes glued to their phones while people are waiting on them. Think im bullshitting? Remember during covid when nurses still managed to find the time to post tiktok dance videos? You tell me with a straight face that people are really spending the entire 40 hours a week doing nothing but their job.
>>573060550nsfw with realistic interactions between people and their bodies is always 100000x hotter than goonslop
>>573060432If you like quirky RPGs about depression at all it's an excellent entry in that genre
>>573060745Why is Dexter's dad touching my goat
>>573058928Fuck that's good, lovey handholding is the best.
/v/aggots get out
>>573060503Not your place anymore ch5gods rule this place now
>>573060395https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1M7Fj6T91c
>>573060747What does "productive" even mean? How is it being made worse? I live in an air conditioned box with endless entertainment and it does not fall down. If we were as a unit working on the cure to death, sure I'd be on the team pulling my weight, but the only thing being worked on is the ability to make us all obsolete with no plan to land the plane anywhere. You need to pay more attention and stop being such a retard
>>573060585I care about all of these
>>573060747bruh not the tiktok nurse derangement in 2026 on god
>>573060921
nobody ever posted the alt angle for this
>>573061093He's blushing because he wants Kris to do this, not some faker.
>>573061093You mean this one?
>>573060887I am okay as this as long its isn't f*ta
why does /utg/ complain about chuddy /v/ tourists invading their safespace when the opposite is the actual thing happening
>>573060921I love Pink!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEnbjMWMwYQ
doe and boye
>>573060887I want to play the kissing game with Aqua too…
>>573061334This might be the cringiest screenshot I’ve ever seen in my life god I’m glad I never go to /v/
>>573061402noel...
>>573061093>>573061204have both saved so yes, they have already been posted
I want Mewmew to peg me
>>573059605I'm literally the most agp troon ever and my love and appreciation of Ralsei is completely divorced from whatever direction the story may take his gender identity. I think if you're denying the hints of it you're delusional, but I do think the point is more so going to be "the prophecy doesn't define who Ralsei is" vs the gender essentialist "Ralsei is feminine therefore must be a woman actually" because Ralsei is a manifestation of the person kris wishes they could be anyway
>>573061334no one using this bro
>>573060963>what do words meanCan we not take the cowards way out of retreating into word games? When you engage in dialog with another adult can it be reasonably assumed that both parties know the meaning of basic words without endlessly needing to beg the question?At any rate since the tread is winding down and meaningful discussion seems to have petered out Im going to reiterate my thoughts.One of the themes of this game is indeed>escapism badAnd while the game presents this message and people pay lip service to it I doubt very much that people truly understand why. Its a simple matter of the fact that your time on earth is limited. And every day you can either choose to waste your time playing pretend while the world goes to hell, or you can choose to man up and get out there into the real world and make a difference.
bake the new bread
>>573061762>I refuse to explain what I mean. Can we just hecking not?Concession accepted.
>>573061587>I think if you're denying the hints of it you're delusional,>says the guy who thinks he's a womanuhhh, kek. also>but I do think the point is more so going to be "the prophecy doesn't define who Ralsei is"this is a lie, if ralsei were masculine nobody would see trans shit in his story. maybe transmasc at worst
>>573061762And why arent you making a difference? How many politicans have you killed? 0?
paying lip service to fave's dick
you guys are being cringe, can you make a new thread so I can post more hot men?
>>573060963Make investor-sama's graph line go up.
no single person can make a meaningful difference in the world.
Why does everyone think the message of this game is that dreams and fantasy are essentially evil? Ralsei literally tells us in Chapter 1 that the point is preserving the balance between light and dark.
this was so tough holy shit
Glyde>>573060923>>573060923>>573060923
>>573062196see: >>573056054
>>573062206This is still for me the hardest fight in the game.
>>573061853Dont pat yourself on the back too hard anon
>>573061093I really want to hold him like this
>>573061334whoever made this image is as cringe as the person making the flower man cover tbqh
>>573062196NOBODY, I repeat NOBODY thinks the point of the game "dreams and fantasy are evil". This is a strawman invented by people who can't accept that maybe ignoring your real life and existing only in a fantasy world is a self destructive thing.
>>573062362Living in a fantasy to the detriment of your real life is the excess of the element of darkness. The Roaring. That’s not balance. I don’t think you get it. Having a dream you love isn’t framed as a bad thing. The fantasy of the Castle Town is not a bad thing. Kris and Susie going on adventures isn’t a bad thing.
>>573061918I vote every election. Violence, especially political violence doesnt work. Its a childs way of thinking. Notice how the death of that healthcare CEO and that conservative talking head didnt make much difference?But getting the right people elected can change laws which has more of an impact than any assassin ever will.
>>573062537>The fantasy of the Castle Town is not a bad thing. Kris and Susie going on adventures isn’t a bad thing.* I... don't think there should be more Dark Fountains, Kris.* No, making them... is bad. It's very bad.* The more darkness gets released, the closer...* ... the closer the Roaring becomes. And, if it happens...* ... I believe ... it will mean...* The end... of the story.
>>573062272word. kris just moves so fucking slowalso this was really kino, i gasped a little
>i'm voootingok you must be a baiter
Why are we being invaded by a middle school debate club that learned tactics from podcast bros that you can't lose if you never actually define your position, and just use subjective terms while saying the metric you mean should be obvious to anyone?
>>573062539and what the hell do you do when one party does nothing and the other makes things worseimpotent cowards like you are the reason the country is dyingkill yourself
>>573062662This is a complete non-sequitur. Ralsei literally encourages you to recruit Darkners from other dreamscapes and bring them to Castle Town. Castle Town is the unification of diverse fantasies and unambiguously something good and worth defending. Ralsei never implies that Castle Town ought to be done away with, that all darkness ought to be expunged. The problem is that the multiplication of fountains is upsetting the natural balance.
>>573062926Violence does not make anything better. You lashing out in impatience isn’t going to make life better for anyone. Civil strife is universal misery. Develop some vision.
>>573062926I'm noticing a common trend of political slacktivists being unable to control their manchild rage over not getting what they want. I wasn't even part of this conversation but I swear I'm seeing shit like this every thread now
>>573062539Their demise did more to galvanize people against the right electorally than anything else. Showing that they can bleed is now the most promising avenue to social change. The strongest electoral strategy is a promise to punish the right wing for its excesses, that people can use to fantasize about executions. Life and politics is more violent than you're willing to admit.If you want to measure productivity in profits, I have the profits I want at this point in my life and no interest in the rat race. I would rather cheer on somebody looking to decapitate the fat cats than run faster. I don't want to be them
>>573062941>The problem is that the multiplication of fountains is upsetting the natural balance.The natural balance is "there are no dark fountains at all anywhere in the world". Castle Town probably didn't exist a week ago either, and the fact that it's the "officially sanctioned" dark fountain doesn't change the fact that its very existence gets the world closer to the roaring.
>>573063296>for millennia, light and dark have lived in balance>recently, another fountain has appearance on the horizon… and with it, the balance between light and dark begins to shift…
>>573061916False. Masculine characters get trans headcanons too.
>>573063273When the high schooler reads one single book about communist philosophy and tries to apply his retardation to real life
I wish the chinks take over and depoliticize the world so I wouldn't see political discussion in my fuzzy critter rpg forum.
>>573063413You really think the dark fountain in the school closet existed for millennia? Come on. Realistically it can't even have existed for a month without someone else finding out about it.
>>573063565Lmao. This has nothing to do with communism, this is real life right now. Everyone is baying for the blood of the enemy and that's what they're voting for all over the world
>>573063724>The prince, alone in deepest dark.
>>573063724I think Castle Town and the Dark World is something primal, something basic about reality. How this works mechanically I couldn’t tell you, not yet, but the point clearly isn’t to eradicate the darkness.
>>573063889They why didn't Ralsei say, when Flowery suggested they shut down the Castle Town dark fountain and leave the one in the flower shop, that"You can't shut down our dark fountain, it's the super special dark fountain that has to exist or else balance will be broken!">>573063889>How this works mechanically I couldn’t tell you, not yet, but the point clearly isn’t to eradicate the darkness.It may not be "the point" but it's the reasonable conclusion to arrive at given what Toby has thus far told us about how every singled ark fountain that exists contributes to causing the roaring.
