Prehistoric EditionAI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI to create limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.Last Thread: >>571872171>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png>PSA: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII | https://rentry.org/shillfilter▶Cloud Serviceshttps://featherless.aihttps://novelai.nethttps://openrouter.ai▶Frontendshttps://koboldai.org/cpphttps://sillytavern.apphttps://github.com/Pasta-Devs/Marinara-Enginehttps://github.com/LordFoogThe4rd/miyapadhttps://github.com/lmg-anon/mikupad▶Additional Information>Chat Format: >>>/vg/aicg>Local Models — e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen: >>>/g/lmg▶Game(s)https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620▶Tools & ResourcesWiki: https://aids.miraheze.orgPrompts: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/Scripts: https://naiscriptvault.com/NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collectionOther/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-misceIIany>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you▶/aids/ EventsThemed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays>Theme Fridays have transformed into Theme Months!>June's Theme Month is over, enjoy the interspecies prompts! >>572884796▶Model News>(05/08) NAI cancels AetherRoom: https://blog.novelai.net/project-update-formal-cancellation-of-aetherroom-28eec9bcc0b8>(04/24) DeepSeek releases V4: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news260424>(04/20) MoonShot releases Kimi 2.6: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6>(03/31) NAI releases Xialong: https://blog.novelai.net/welcome-novelais-newest-writing-model-xialong-ecde7d21d111▶Thread News>(03/07) Anon updates his frontend: >>559652987 https://files.catbox.moe/930fvy.html>(02/05) Emacs Update: https://files.catbox.moe/6r6wxg.el>(01/16) Anon makes a Mikupad Screenshot Scripthttps://github.com/LordFoogThe4rd/mikupad-screenshot>(11/17) Anon makes a Mikupad Guidehttps://rentry.org/MikupadIntroGuide
What's new in the hood my niggas?
New Chinese regulations. It's over.
Whatever, doomer.
>>573169441I'm downloading the entire cryptid wiki fandom site for offline enjoyment in case my internet goes down.
https://files.catbox.moe/1swa7x.png
>>573170229Man, wtf
>>573170229do we panic or is it nothing to worry about?
>>573183798According to >>>/g/109211717, it's more aimed at front-end chat services than models themselves. Mildly bad, potentially moderately bad depending on cooling effects and setting the stage for more robust crackdowns in the future, but not apocalyptic for now.
I'm using NAI 4.5 Style Reference and the artist whose style I am trying to copy only draws anime girls with huge tits. I want to gen images of guys too but it keeps giving them the same feminine physique even why I put tags like huge breasts in the negatives. I've got the strength and fidelity both at 1 but when I turn it down the strength the style starts to weaken and I don't want that. Anything I can do? Maybe tweak the fidelity? I checked I don't have character reference turned on either, only style.
>>573170229That was fake news made up by americans who don't speak Mandarin btw
>>573186124What if you take the original image, use inpainting to remove the large breasts, then take that edited image as your style reference? I don't use image tools beyond inpainting so i can't tell you from personal experience; just an idea.
Chub bros...the dream...the dream is...the...dream...*coughs up blood* is...ov...er...
>>573185548>spend impossible amounts of money (including money that doesn't even exist) going all in on AI in everything, ruining all software, websites and services, ruining the consumer hardware market, the economy and the environment, empowering surveillance and suppression of wrongthink>aggressively go after and ban the one mildly entertaining use of AI that the average peasant can get some enjoyment out ofi hate the antichrist
>>573187438That's a really good idea I should've thought of that sooner. Thanks.
>>573189953(not that anon)I have an ideaCan you post your reference image?
How do I use anon's new frontend on termux? Total noob here.
>>573188047same
>>573170229Is masturbating anti-communism?
>>573202230no, it's anti-capitalistyou should go pay for a prostitute on the free market
>>573202230Masturbation by itself is fine. But when expensive toys get involved it becomes Bourgeoisie.
>>573202230At one point it vaguely was as a sort of “how could you spend time doing this? Mao needs you to help spread the revolution.” >picrel has a segment on this >author is sent out to Mongolia with other young dumb communist youth to help them swap to Chinese style communism since Mongolia was stuck in a weird position when the USSR and China stopped talking >one of the Mongolian farmers was attractive >author has a struggle session against himself as he starts jerking off to her in his tent while thinking about how disappointed Mao would be >cooms while begging Mao to understand >gets mad>accuses the Mongolian farmers of being counter revolutionaries for having such stupid sexy peasant girls >kills a dog in retaliation >goes back to hist tent
>>573207809https://www.rubjoy.store/
>>573208563Based, how high up the ladder would he have had to be to be able to outright demand the peasant girl from the farmers? Must've been sweet to abuse your power at the upper levels
eh
>>573208563He is literally me...
>>573211305If I recall the whole operation was just a bunch of dumb kids sent out with one or two almost meaningful officers. Pretty much all they did for a while was run around trying to find capitalist hiding amongst the Mongolian herders and preparing to hold the line against the Red Army if the USSR declared war and cross the border and they just kind of did whatever the fuck. Theme month idea of authoritarian regimes?
>>572807686before I get my hopes up, where was this said? discord?
>>573217696It was said on Joseph Smith's golden plates.
>>573208563It's a good read. You expect something gritty and political, at its core it's 'sad lonely man burns 8 years of his life in the steppes.'>kills a dog in retaliationThought it was another dude who offed Ingush. But it's pretty funny when put that way. Also this excerpt gets me too:>"There was something dirty about having girls on my mind all thetime, and I hated myself for it. In 1964, when the campaign for selfrevolution was gaining steam, I dredged up all the scruffy, vile thoughtsI’d ever had and wrote a self-criticism, which I turned in to the authorities."Submit your logs to the Great Leader today.
penis for headaches sloppy doo
>wanted to do something productive>instead fapped to a gender bending prompt about being possessed by a hedonist slut ghost from the 80s
>>573168341Thanks to everyone who participated in Interspecies Relationships Friday! This time, we received three (3) prompts! I’ll be taking suggestions for July’s theme till Friday evening, whereupon I shall post the poll, which shall last till Sunday evening. Looking at the calendar, the event itself shall kick off on July 31st and last till the 2nd!>To Host A Snake: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7948>You Mismatched Yourself With An Orc: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7950>Fault Lines: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7951
>scrolling youtube>see a premise I really like, click short>punchline was absolute shit>can't bring myself to lift it and do it better >dumb brain feels the idea already got 'spent'>instead, stew in resentmentAnyone else?
>>573229127Sometimes, but then again people can enjoy derivatives of known concepts and ideas.What was it?
>>573231814Was some dumb shit about a magical girl orc. I thought the punchline would be her using emotions to sidestep being a dumb orc and actually being able to cast magic, but instead the punchline was orc smash.
Wow I cannot believe HiddenDoor is still not actually out. LMAO.Is AIDungeon''s character game done yet?
Le teasers from chord.
>>573234451Same as the first.
>>573234545Third time reacharound.
>>573228463
People actually like Claude!?God damn, Claude AI is fucking stingy with their output tokens! It's like pulling teeth getting the damn thing to spit shit out and properly provide descriptions. Its like its obsessed with truncating narrations too!Fucking more puritanical that I'd expect a pair of shitalians to make it, too! It's like talking to a fucking HR roastie thumping her corporate code of conduct manual.
pftf?
>>573178038>>573236421SEX
>>573239139a classic
>>573250196Colorful cast of characters
Recommend me good historical prompts, ideally with lots of pillaging and ravaging
>▶Thread News>>(03/07) Anon updates his frontend: >>559652987 https://files.catbox.moe/930fvy.htmlSo we need to use openrouter for this? Just constantly get a 429 when I try to do anything at all, tried with paid and free models.Haven't added any payment infos because planning on loli stuff.Are there any scripts like this for NAI? Would rather just use that. Xialong any good? ben a while since I was here
>9070xt>did some image gen with anima via comfyiu desktop>updated my rvc2 install and it works albeit slower>chatterbox tts works through comfyui but it was a mixed bag of nice and shit outputsI already do a mixture of NAI and SillyTavern with OpenRouter, guess I'll just add some local image gen to the mix.
>>573266147Xialong's not so bad
>>573273564I would do more local, but I really hate comfyui
https://files.catbox.moe/osuzwj.jpg
>>573281374just use forge neo then?
>>573192849You useless fuckin vantablack brimstone-blacker-than-coal gorilla niggermonkeys can't even help a black brotha out.
i think all this ai gooning has just made me bored of writing sex, and there's no sex 2
>>573293881time to go on a grand AI-powered adventure
>>573294062but that's boring.. i think i'll try a dragon lady instead
>>573281374I'm not big on it myself, I just grabbed some random workflow from civitai for Anima and used that.
slopisms everywhere
>>573301239You're a slopism, Nancy. Shut the fuck up and quit shitting on everyone else's contributions.
Anyone ever done a time loop story?
>>573308357no but you should do one and report about it
>>573308357What is the appeal of steins gate? I watched maybe half of the episodes and it didn't hook me.
>>573310629The same appeal of all time loop stories, it's fun seeing an MC get more competent and understand their world better through the loops
"BOUNTY HUNTERS could be here," he thought. "I've never been in this neighborhood before. There could be BOUNTY HUNTERS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE BOUNTY HUNTERS," he thought. Boss Battle BGM reverberated his entire car, making it pulsate even as the $9 cloning formula circulated through his powerful, thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of women after dark. "With a car, you can anywhere you want," he said to himself, out loud.
png of money fuck it do it for the suck
>>573308357i do it for money suck fuck in head various times
I don't get this newest meme
>>573236421
>>573319597I'm not sure eitherI always think of Limp Bizkit's nookie song when he posts it though
>>573228590Authoritarianism, like what >>573214406 suggested.
>>573228590Summer festivals
Novelai refuses to fucking accept my payment details What's the next best thing to use?Not really coomerpilled just want to AI storyfag without some moralfag moderation stepping in to tell me racism is le bad when I call someone a nigger
True
Good news if you have followers, the beta test is openhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdO0kKHLTCZUPsAoaZ__DUznELQo0QUtEA9mogfH_UXb6EZ8A/viewform
>>573351728Followers? Is this some sort of /x/ thing where I have to have CIA agents gangstalking me to qualify?
>>573352038The beta test for V5 requires you to have a Discord and a gorillion Xitter or Pixiv fans.
why was my NAI sub extended by 14 daysmy next billing date is 14 days further in the future than any of my previous dates
>>573353784Tel Aviv sends its regards
>>573308357Yeah, pretty old groundhog-day-esque prompt>person doomed to kick it within a certain number of days>always get warped back to a point in time after being cursed>whole thing is about personality dissolution and gathering intel on an artifact to break the curseAnd another that's madoka flavor>group of friends awaken to special powers but are fated to die>one happens to have time-related powers uh oh>timeloop to spend more time with them and hopefully not die>oops, all bad timelines!>horrible things ensue
>>573344529Use Gr*k. Set the story in a fantasy/space setting where people use made up slurs and insults and just replace them with the n-word in your head.
>>573353784Huh, yeah, mine too. My renewal day was always the 9th and now it's the 23rd.
I had a dream I was on a train and a little girl seated next to me decided to sleep with her head on my lap
>>573377176I had a stranger fall asleep on me once (shoulder though), it felt horrible! Like I was flip-flopping between wanting to wake them up because I was worried about how it'd look, and feeling bad for how exhausted they were. Thankfully they woke up and apologised almost right away so I didn't have to make the choice kek
>>573380728Was it a cute girl?
>>573377176Not uncommon. I've done that as a young lad, and had women of different ages do that. Life is... tiring. I just deal with it
>>573381514No, no it wasn't. Life isn't fair.
Grok 4.5 got released and for once, I'm hearing very good things from people not named Elon about it. But most of them use it for coding and such. Anyone gonna try it out for writing and report results?
today I learned that the skeppy snippet from the taskup leaks was someone's minecraft let's player fanfiction
Should I play a digimon game just to understand the lore enough for a renamon prompt? Which game would be best for that?
>>573394267awful snout
>>573394267iirc Renamon is a starter for World 3, but you're not getting any mon lore out of that.
>>573394930Show me good one then
>>573397297https://youtu.be/b2mgCck5tng
>>573402970Tex Avery's cartoons are top tier.
>>573394267You're in luck. I'm the local Digimon autist who knows everything. Renamon isn't going to have much lore in the games, though a male one appears in Digimon Survive as an important character. The Tamers anime does a better job at painting a picture of Renamon.I will give you the tl;dr>Renamon is a special species, who's power scaling depends on how it was raised as Relemon and Pokomon (baby forms).>A well raised Renamon is probably on-par with Combat Species, opting for technique and speed over raw power.>For all intents and purposes, Renamon can be compared to a young Kitsune (2-3 tails). It's most common evolutions are based on nine tailed foxes as early as adult/champion level.>Most people are probably most familiar with Kyubimon. But it has two other fox lines, Youkomon(dark evolution), and Tenkomon (ice-based celestial fox.)>Evolution lines typically end on Sakuyamon(Shinto Priestess), Kuzuhamon(weaker Sakuyamon), or Yukinamon (Yuki-onna).Do note that Digimon lines are not set in stone and are highly mutable. A common conplaint I see is that she turns into a "cosplay-mon". If that bothers you and you are looking for a furry mega the only justification you need is "it absorbed beast-data" or (you) as the tamer subconsciously influenced it.>Renamon would very likely be more common to find in Digital World: Shambala, aka weeb digital world.>Well raised Renamon are disciplined and loyal, usually keeping a cool head.>Prone to become aloof/defiant if their tamer is weak. If you want to know anything more specific, just ask.
>>573404225What does their genitals look like?
>>573405193Never officially disclosed. Probably puffy though.
>>573404225Nta, but I'd love to hear what you have for Dracomon and Monodramon that probably aren't in the wikis. They're my AI mandated partners for the Digimon prompt I play from time to time.
>>573405551Renamon had some additional lore due to being an anime partner mon. But here is what I got.>DracomonAnother really strong child/rookie level, mostly because it's entire line was built around the Royal Knight Examon, who holds the title of "Dragon Emperor". Dracomon's entire lines are reliable throughout the games. I don't think they have ever been bad once. In fact, in the most recent game Dracomon was one of the best early game Digimon by a significant margin.>Monodramon Ryo's partner in the Wonderswan game Brave Tamer. Before Beatbreak, Monodramon was best known for fusing with one of the biggest antagonists in the series, Millenniummon. the resulting fusion ending on Cyberdramon. As of Beatbreak, Monodramon has received a new Pterosaur evolution line with Rhamphomon as it's adult/champion and Azhdarmon as it's perfect/ultimate. Both of which are really cool. We have not seen it's final stage yet.The AI basically gave you two god picks.
>>573406718Give me some Guilmon and Agumon info.
>>573404225Thanks, digibro, I wasn't even aware they evolved further. Should I check out the anime then?
>>573406891>AgumonAgumon wasn't intended to be the mascot. It was originally Tyranomon and there was a later push for V-dramon/Veedramon(dub). Agumon's popularity exploded between Digimon World 1 and the original anime and was eventually cemented as the mascot. In the JP version of Digimon: Card Battle, there is a Hitler Agumon called FurherAgumon. He has not appeared in any official media since.>Guilmon Gulimon's origins are literally "Original the Character do not steal" made real by beings known as digignomes who can grant wishes. Guilmon introduced the concept of the Digital Hazard, a marking on several Digimon with potential to destroy the world. (Lucemon is another notable Digimon who bears this mark.) Megidramon, the manifestation of this power, basically starts an apocalypse even just by existing. When controlled, it instead becomes one of the few virus-type Royal Knights as Dukemon/Gallantmon. Who is usually the lancer of the group, and I mean that as the character archetype not his actual lance.>>573408570Digimon Tamers is considered one of the best Digimon animes that drew a lot of inspiration from Evangelion. I'd recommend it.
I be nutting in my eyes just to see how far I came.
Here's your squad for tonight, commander.
Oh my...
I hate how NAI is gatekeeping the V5 beta behind shit statistics. Why aren't there any teasers on reflections? Other complex thinga?
>>573417850Assign them to the front line to serve as meat shields for our human soldiers and bring 3 of our youngest and hottest (human btw) medical staff into my quarters immediately
>>573422693Can't you fuckers ever discuss important things?
>>573423657compa this is the ai dynamic storytelling game general
>>573422393They've done this before, unfortunately
I hate hmomafag so much bros...
>>573423657
>>573424540V5 is far more important than samefagging a convo. If you're going to continue with it, at least make a prompt and share it with the thread. At least then it would be useful.
>>573424093It sucks so much ass the vacuum suction might as well be giving me a colonoscopy.
Ai is serious business
Lol, lmao. Sage is so bad at prompting Aini told him to quit sharing teasers.
>>573424919
>>573425864/aids/ is a thread of sophisticated gentleman. Nothing in it is slop. It's fine wine. The slop isle is /aicg/.
recent v5 samples from the cord
>>573426139These are the ones Aini scolded Sage for. Because they're so bad.
>>573426139Who the fuck is err?
>>573426139Manga as an industry is finished. It's over...
>>573426219holy shit seriously? it happened AGAIN? screenshots pleasewhy haven't they fired sage yet? he's so fucking retarded it genuinely hurts
>>573426139bruh this is so slop the soulless truly can't make anything good even with stealing improving
>>573425810lel
>>573427120Why are you here in the AI thread if you think training data is theft?
>>573427085
>>573426219I can see why, he's using the "pointing at viewer" tag instead of "beckoning"
>>573427085>why haven't they fired sage yetapparently he's good at his jobhttps://github.com/wbrown/janus-datalog
>>573427397He should stick with what he's paid to do and quit sniffing his parts and acting like that makes him a genius in areas he's clearly not qualified to talk about
>>573427397>apparently he's good at his jobis he really though? last i checked his codebase didn't include slopped ai code like it does now
>>573427567Show us your code base, whiney.
they deleted the teasers lol
>>573427640hi occultsagei don't code but if your code is as bad as your gens then i'd start looking for another job if i were you
>>573427674Were they really that mediocre his bosses shut him up? Lol!!!!
once again say it with me:natural language prompting was a mistake
>>573427994Speak for yourself.
>>573427994I think it has its use cases and that it's weird to equivocate a akill issue with a general issue.
>>573428098only if you reply to my previous post, proomptlet :^)
>>573427994Bigger models can handle natural language processing pretty well, plus there's loads of concepts that tagging can't accomplish. Should we abandon any hope of making novel content because a self-important deaf man can't prompt well? I think not.
>>573427994I've had it help me for some very specific images, but I usually save it for a last resort.
>>573429126CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
>>573429729SUFFOCATION NO BREATHING
>>573426357Who's asking?
>>573426139>>573426219These are very much crap in the sense I don't see anything here that couldn't be pulled off with v4.5. Aini's response is encouraging and so is the model being unfinished, because I've yet to see an image posted over the last few days' teasers that made me go "wow" in the way some of the local stuff from Krea or Ideogram did.
>>573433669>Krea or Ideogramhuh?
>>573433982Two open source imagegen models that can be run on consumer hardware as neither exceeds 12B.
>>573434630any good examples?
>>573433669That was my first thought as well, that shit is mid-tier slop at best. If this is its best, v5 is a huge nothingburger
>>573435638It is hmomafag tier.
did anyone save the raw occultpromptlet gens? if so then run them through the nai inspect site, i'm half betting he was dumb enough to not wipe the metadata
>>573436951They were screenshots from their betatesting website. You can tell from the blue edges and rounded corners. Sadly no metadata.
Sage is dunking on imagegen users
>>573438530WHAT!?
>>573438530Imagegensisters...
>>573406718Oh hell yeah, thank you. The furthest evolution I've gotten were perfect forms, Wingdramon and Cyberdramon respectively, though GLM and DS hallucinated very different adult forms for each (Allomon/Dorugamon), which is a bit surprising since they're both valid evos afaik. Gonna add Mono's new evos when I eventually catch up on BB
>>573438530massive predditor energy
>>573438530can someone ask him to demonstrate Papyrus font
>>573438530how is this caricature of a man still employed lmao
>>573439873well I liked the images he posted publicly anyway, never saw any others
>>573439873And this pussyboy has the gall to call other people bitches?
>>573440160pussyboy doesn't even come close to cutting it
>>573440260(also isn't aini a tranny? how do you let a tranny emasculate you?)
>>573440260Holy cuckaroni...
>>573439127He's a cutie innit he?
>>573439873Oh, no, people spread the previews that you made and posted publicly to be previews! Whatever will you do?
>>573435638I'm already expecting the curated one to be kinda crappy anyway
>>573440991Very cute. Small bancho energy. He's a little tsun in my scenario too, so it fits.
>>573439995 nvm I saw them now >>573426139I like snek hips
>>573440260>she can scold me because I don't care anyway I will do whatever regardless
>>573445578(whatever = acting like a fucking retard)
>>573445707Acting?
>>573446202KEK
>>573262268Classic Hellenic colonization of the dacian/thracian regions. Last time that I ran that one, I found a witch on the Danube
>>573445707>>573446202It do be like that lmao
>>573433669The lamia ones show that you can prompt for different text colors even within the same sentence, which v4.5 definitely wouldn't be able to do reliably. The rest show that you can prompt for non-ascii characters, which v4.5 can't do at all.Not particularly impressive or surprising given what we already know, but they do technically show new capabilities compared to v4.5.
>>573440260This is the same loser who supposedly had his own custom made world generation script with all these fancy features but only posts it to brag and not share. The guy will ruin himself over time with his own ego and retardation
>>573426139>IS THAT... 1GIRLSOP WITH NO COMPLICATED OR INTERESTING ELEMENTS WHATSOEVER? AWOOOOGA I'M SO HECKING HYPED LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
>>573228590MusicCrimeTravel
>wake up>new vibeslopped frontend >install it anyways
>>573427994Just be happy you can use both. I trained ideogram4 on plenty of natural lang captions instead of json and it still struggles without json handholding.
>>573440260he's deaf which is likely a contributing factor to him developing 'leddit quirk chungus' as his personality
>>573462067>he's deafwell that explains it
>>573433669The Ideogram example posted here (>>572594325) seems worse than their non-Sage examples, dude.>>572520279>>572614142>>572614330>>572803997Also, can it do porn? NOBODY has posted any porn from what you're sahilling.
>>573435143https://x.com/Removeshort/status/2073334715554083221Your Krea2, Sir.
>>573464113that looks awful
>>573467414Hello, Sage.
But can it do this?https://files.catbox.moe/7192nj.png
>>573468675actually that was me
>>573468675Sage would probably think that looks nice.
V4.5 was a downgrade from V4 anywayYou cant even sub right nowV5 is shit dead on arrival stolen from KratosFuck /aids/Chub supremacy
slow day huh
>>573469054Can I join his crew?
>>573435143Not the ones I had in mind, but found this with a quick search of the /g/ archives. Left is Ideogram. Right is Krea. >1970s Retro anime screencap. depicting 2B wearing her iconic feathered sleeve dress. Full body shot, leaning back and resting her elbows on a railing. Her sword is leaning against the railing to the right.>Detailed hand painted background: dark, rusty overgrown abandoned factory complex, ocean, distant oil rigs. Earthy color palette with deep shadows and subtle color variations in browns, grays, greens and blues>Lighting:harsh shadows, rim lighting, atmospheric dust motes>1970s anime, retro anime, cinematic framing, cel shading, bold line art, expressive and angular facial features, large expressive eyes with distinct white glints, flat shading, vintage, nostalgic, analog grain
>>573471045But can it gen porn?
>>573452770True, but strong text adherence IMO only becomes really important when the model can reliably one-shot complex ambience so it gets signs, posters, etc. correct. Text clouds can be filled out in MSPaint so it's not a big selling point to have it done through pure prompting.
>>573471472I dont want to have to edit my pics and ruin the Metadata through third parties.
>>573471178https://archived.moe/b/thread/950789621/#950789660Haven't tried it but found this in the /b/ archive and it seems pretty explicit to me.
>>573471879I don't see anything in that example that NAI couldn't already do. Where are all the amazing totally impossibly to gen examples?
Telling it to avoid sentence fragments helps.
>>573474138In author's notes or system prompt?
>>573474760I haven't done extensive testing yet on where the ideal place to put it, but it seems that putting it anywhere helps. At least for my setup.
>>573469657Well, according to what Deepseek told me when it created him, he's a ghost pirate, so that might be a bit tricky, but I guess there's only one way to find out.
>>573480903That thumbnail seriously looked like an anus being covered up.
I wish the AetherRoomAtHome script would get updated because I prefer that one over the others.
Can someone send some preset (with samplers) files for NovelAI and SillyTavern? I need samples
>>573489487Ideally with everything changed, nothing stays as default
>>573489487>STNo, but: https://github.com/aetherdreams/SillyTavern-Aether
>>573491398It’s not for usage, I forgot to add. I’m working on sampler presets for miyapad and am exploring importing those files
>>573495180But why must we subject the mice to constant suffering
>>573496624They're just the unfortunate victims of the hierarchy. Being at the bottom opens them up to being victimized and persecuted.
>>573308357yeah, but the AI shat the bed pretty hard.Somehow it handles time stop much better
Okay so, the plan is to create an extension that's easy to maintain and easy for people to customize and add many names as a json format without having to rely on tokens like lorebooks do.Basically, lorebooks require an 'activation' cost and then some more depending on how big your list is, on top of that, lorebooks are sometimes not super reliable in longer stories.My solution would be to force the models to instead refer to any new background character as {{NPC145236}} or whatever, and then use post processing (and let the browser) handle the assignation of that handle to a name from the list.That would basically reduce the costs of big name lorebooks from anywhere between 150-500 tokens (for exhaustive lists) to telling the model to use this format for new names which would be maybe 10 to at most 50 tokens (in case I decide to expand to more than just NPC names, so names for places, maybe names for species, and maybe names for legends or something, etc), and I'm sure it'd be feasible to add some basic random generation to names too (can fusion parts of names into a new one etc). And past that injection price, the list(s) could be as big as one could want, it could be a Gb in size for all you care and it'd just just fine (well, until your browser starts shitting the bed, I guess, idk, stop using google chrome)v2 would be adding special rules to the naming conventions of the model to further customize things (maybe if it knows it's trying to find name for an elf for example, then it could name the NPC {{NPCelf1455}} instead) and add separate lists for that...What do we think? Am I being too autistic and looking too deep into this?
>>573501212That sound interesting, actually
>>573436951
>>573501212I do like this idea. Helps to differentiate characters in the same role too. My personal problem with larger lorebooks is having tags that call two or more similar entries. Giving IDs that calls them in when a name/term is mentioned sounds much easier than dancing around it with regex tags.
>>573488159>>573490838>>573491614>>573493718>573495180>573496229For what purpose?
>>573505924>>573507840Right, role is also something that'd be cool to add (and maybe even 'title', for people that enjoys muh royalty hierarchy stuff), the issue is that the more 'customizable' I try to make it, the more dependent it'll be on using a model that's smart enough to figure out the instruction in the first place, because it seems that extensions can't directly send the model any instruction before it starts working on the message, so for one, the users are going to have to add the instruction somewhere (and I'm hoping default author's notes (aka the ones that stay between chats) is going to do the trick, so that people don't have to fuck with their character cards), and secondly, if the model you're using doesn't get it it might flat out ignore or completely go ungabunga, I'm also expecting to see a few missing }} (but that just seems to happen every now and then) But that also means that the users are going to have to fiddle with this themselves because I don't know what their story is going to need, but if you got fantasy races then you'll have to instruct it to replace them too and then use a list for that name and... yeah. I thought it'd be fairly simple to make this and 'retard proof' but I can now see a million ways that people aren't going to get how to correctly use it, I have to think about it.My 'best case' scenario would have been that the extension can, without asking the user to touch at his notes/char cards, tell the model to replace any new names for people with {NPCSpecies(incremental number)} and any new places with {PlaceSpecies(incremental number)}. And then through the options, the user could (on a per chat/story basis) see the name lists that are assigned to each species or places or whatever. But then if in your story you try to refer to the species more like 'factions', then the AI isn't going to understand that.Ugh
>>573509391Why not?
>>573509606Too sexy.
>>573509559Kinda like the way they do it with {{char}} macros it just calls the name, but for {{id000}} call name + inject lorebook entry. It definitely will eventually run into weird stuff if the AI is the one responsible for writing them in each gen because those macros are for users to use in their prompt.I've thought of a system like this before but ran into the same problem of>if the model you're using doesn't get it it might flat out ignoreDon't forget it actually gets more cache intensive to constantly call in different entries, so it wastes a little more than just having a lorebook entry with each NPC in it too
>>573509391Why contain it?
>>573499037That makes sense because there's less to keep track of
>>573518574Sometimes less is more, after all
>>573507603The text shit is cool at least
>>573540314Sage agrees >>573438530
it was almost merely inches away from the deep, low, guttural rumbling
>>573544696kill me... and maybe, just maybe...
It looks like Seedream v5 Pro made NAI v5 obsolete. It can take up to 10 references and it's completely uncensored. Even the dialogue that it writes on its own sounds better than Erato.
>>573552806I'll believe it when I see it
>It looks like [Thing I don't use] has obsoleted [Thing I arbitrarily hate]
>>573555120A tale as old as time
>>573518574I mean, here it was specifically about being an "NPC" during the last iterationYet the AI would keep saying "wow, you've never done this before" on the most mundane stuff, despite the protagonist's most influential action was organizing a rooftop meeting
>>573552806>An instant-loss 2koma comic where a blonde elf knight challenges a bandit in the first panel. In the second panel she is getting fucked up her ass, her clothes torn.>It actually writes its own dialog.>But it gives her balls and the penis comes from his thigh.Neat, but, uuuh...>>>/h/8910971
>>573552806You okay? Posts have been kinda weird since the moscow strikes. Relative take over the account or something?
my penis money is reserved for your fuckle muckle
https://files.catbox.moe/hkkrpy.png
>>573351728Can I get in even though I don't have an active sub right now?
>>573574735I do not believe that not having an active sub would prevent you from using whatever beta site they are using.
>>573552806Shame I only use chinese models for free and don't care about either
>>573586767What's the best chinese anime image generator I can use for free on my phone?
>>573587225money fuckle
Does anyone else find Doom demons kind of...sexy?
>>573590931I mean HDoom exists so at least some people have had that idea in some way.
Are lamias just peak monster girl design?It feels like all the others always come with either way too negative cons or are simply boring as fuck (like succubi) Also I'm glad gemma seems to finally get to the point where it understands what the fuck a lamia is.
>>573552806>Sign up for Seedance>Each 5.0 Pro image at 1k resolution costs 10 credits>Check subscription plans to see credit allowance>1575 monthly credits for the €17 and 3885 credits for €39That seems like a very bad deal. Pay €17 and get 157 images from 5.0 to generate across an entire month, or ~5 a day. Although it does allow unlimited gens from Seedance 4.0 when subbed, so I guess that's at least something, but I'll need to test it out to see if that model's output is worth it.Also just being signed up gets you some credits every day. So wait a few and you get a free image to gen. How generous of them. Maybe in a week or two, I'll be able to test the waters with a few generations without forking out cash. These Chinks make Grok Imagine look like a selfless charity.
>>573601215>SeedanceMeant SeedreamDance is the videogen model, Dream is the imagegen model.
>>573601215I genned >>573562086 via nano-gpt. I have some credits on there anyways to play with models. It also took a really long time to gen. Either their servers are hammered, or it's a slow ass model.
>>573602894API price seems to be $0.09 per image or so, probably depending on the resolution.
>>573602894>nano-gptIs there a benefit to using this over OpenRouter?>>573603269Wonder what's the size of it. Imagegen models are much cheaper to serve than text models, so either they have some truly gargantuan model or they're collecting gargantuan margins. Maybe both. That price certainly fits the theory.
>>573603960>Is there a benefit to using this over OpenRouter?Direct Monero payment option. OR's crypto options are retarded.They definitely do heavy prompt rewriting, considering it made up its own speech bubbles. Image quality is pretty dogwater for drawn images but looks fine on photos.
v5 Pro > v5It's pretty easy to tell from the name alone. NAI never stood a chance.
>>573605190introducing NAI V5 Pro Ultra 12 Inches 3000x Delta
it is the service of our time
trying to make an automatic sprite set generator for a "turn sillytavern cards into an LLM-driven visual novel" thinginpainting expression prompts and compositing the result onto the master image works reasonably well, but background removal is a pain in the ass to do reliably/automatically, especially when hair edges, blush lines, etc, change from image to image...
>>573608887hmm, the bangs change slightly from sprite to sprite too, dunno if that can be fixed since eyebrows often overlap them and need to be included in the inpaint box
Teasers incoming.
>>573609701
>>573609893
>>573609701>>573609893>>573610102>posting discord thumbnail size
>>573610162>whining like a whiney bitchChoke on a dick, faggot.
>>573610102
this should be full res
Seedance could gen better.
The worst that this failure of a troll can be is annoying. He's failed at everything else he's tried to do.
Lol he even fails at posting.
>>573608887That looks pretty good.You could try to convince the AI to first get the character onto a green screen background and then it might be able to cut it off more cleanly, or honestly you could have a simple background and have some of it be cut with the character, like an oval or a circle shape behind them, then you don't even have to worry about the cleanliness of the cut.
>>573610374The goose one is somewhat nice.The others are meh. There's obvious better adherence to this or that detail like the portrait painting, but overall it feels like "incremental progress" more befitting another 4.x subversion than a major leap. Hope I'm wrong, but I've always been pessimistic about NAI imagegen's long term ability to impress given its exclusion of photorealistic data in its training. Photorealistic images are on average much richer in detail from which anime images could very much benefit so it's a major nerf.But maybe they're just not good prompters. Good thing I have 10k anals left from my last year's subscription so I'll get to test it out for free when it releases.
>>573614439In what world is the painting one not the indisputable best? I need the drugs you're taking.
>>573614605>I need the drugs you're taking.Its cock.
>>573614439>given its exclusion of photorealistic data in its training. Photorealistic images are on average much richer in detail from which anime images could very much benefit so it's a major nerf.HOLY FUCKING SUBVERSIONWARRIORMAMA777 SPOTTED
>>573614439>>573614605Both of them are good, and they both suffer from the exact same issue that's the fact that the style between the background and the anime girl is completely different and clashing, it's not consistent, it's basically AI music where they don't try to create a music made off of notes of different instruments and instead it just tries to replicate noise that goes well together, it's the same here.It's very good at first sight, but it could be a lot better if the girls' skins and features kept the same painting and shading styles as the rest of the pictures. I like them though.
Sorry that happened to you, or I'm happy for you, or whatever. Banal pointless false criticism that has no merit.
>>573610317
>>573615895Seeddream could gen better. Show me the side by sides. For every teaser image we need a side by side.
>>573615438>skin is different from plant matter>noooo it needs to be the same
What the fuck do you mean false criticism you stupid jeet fuck, use your eyes and look at the picture and point at me exactly where else do you see a pure gradient of color like it's seen on their skins?What about the brush strokes, how come they're consistently seen everywhere even on her clothes, but magically not on her skin, but that's not real of course, it's made upFucking retard
>>573616262You really need to get a grip and grow up. Not a single word you said has any value.
Clothing and skin have the same texture. I am very, very smart. Smarter than you.
Whatever you say, weirdo. All you do is whine and whine and make up bullshit to claim NAI is an incompetent company at perpetual risk of bankruptcy. Why do you insist on wasting your life bitching about a company you have demonstrated no good faith toward?
I'd love to see 4.5 gen anything even half as good.
>>573616262is this your first run in with angryfag or something
>he deleted his second commentLol. Guess it really was whiney.
everything has to be consistent and drawn the same exact way just like local gens where the unet gets raped by loras
>>573614439Photorealistic data isn't even excluded from the dataset. Only actual real-world imagery of people.
>>573617725bro you don't get it every model has to look like basilmix to be good
>>573617895I don't understand a word of what you're saying to me.
>Sage is fuming that his license to gen has been revoked
I do feel like there should be consistency in that image in regards to the texture. It's "traditional media" with a specific medium tag and a specific texture tag. A consistent texture should come with that.
>>573618123I don't expect consistency from anything but artist tags, personally.
It literally looks like a painting that someone photoshopped an anime girl onto and just did some basic shading and called it a day.
>>573616068I tried putting the prompt in there, but it refuses to generate. Probably because of the word "girl", but I'm not rewriting the whole prompt. Fuck that.
>>573618269Seeddance could do better but angryfaggotbitchboy just wants to shill his master's product like the whipped slave he is. Burn all faggots! Burn them! Hang them all! By their cocks!
>>573618123>>573618269i can tell you're a slopper because you don't understand paintings
>>573618381NAI propaganda. Seeddance generates the best girls. It has no censorship. Unlike photoshop five.
>>573618512You're a sloppy toppy egg. Where's the consistency? Krita and Pixel output gold compared to your coal.
>>573615438Liking is fine. It largely depends on your own standards for what constitutes acceptable progress at this point in time. I mentioned it before in the thread, but my personal standard for NAI is that it should at least be roughly on par in general abilities with the best local opensource models that can be run on consumer hardware. From everything I've seen posted, it's quite behind.>>573616262Protip: you are conversing with a perennial thread personality who feigns extreme defensiveness on NovelAI's behalf. Treat him like a performing monkey and enjoy the free responses he gives instead of caring about the contents of his posts as he doesn't mean anything he says. It's all bait to get responses.>>573617725Probably enough of a handicap given how much real-world imagery incorporating people there is online.
>>573618093The name is Cuck, Deaf Cuck.
>>573618773I disagree with your sentiments and have yet to see anyone post any porn of the latest local models being shilled by the resident Russian.
>>573618773>From everything I've seen posted, it's quite behind.I haven't tried any of the fancy local models like hidream, but can they really do four OCs interacting at the same time without any details bleeding?
>>573618773>my personal standard for NAI is that it should at least be roughly on par in general abilities with the best local opensource models that can be run on consumer hardware. From everything I've seen posted, it's quite behind.holy localoid copethey used to check people into mental hospitals for less delusional shit
>>573618991Based on what people have tried, they suck at generating porn.
>>573618991>>573619023Shit the fuck down angryfag.
>>573605190Why is a relative typing these? That's not gonna bring the non-verbal guy back. Is it a Russian thing?
>>573619253Local is superior to licking corporate boots.
>even here localoids are angry about their chink/gook saas scraps not measuring up to models trained by people who at least half know what they're doing
>>573619138I'm not that guy. I just want to learn about the best local models that can do scenes like that four girl scene without bleeding.
>>573618530Poor Babusha trying desperately to keep her dead son's memory alive.
>>573619314if you pay for your utilities you're licking corporate boots
>>573619424Take a look at /lmg/ and eat your heart out. Witness the peaks NAI can never achieve.
>>573619314>>573619502Get your brother to re-read the notepad entries because he sounded nothing like this.He hasn't posted on /v/ since the attacks. He's dead. You'll have to try harder.
>>573619502>Witness the peaks NAI can never achieve.(negative peaks)
>>573619614Local image models outperform every teaser image thumbnail in the thread.
Okay, so I tried putting the prompt into Ideogram 4.0 online. Filtered right away. I put it into Microsoft's MAI-Image-2.5. Filtered. Grok Imagine Image Quality actually worked, pic related.I saw that they have Krea2, so I'll try that next and report back.
>>573619715kekaroolocaloids are going insane
>>573619793Here's the actual image.
Look at how inconsistent the gradient shading, the horizon is tucked, the colors melt together, the background and foreground is all fucked up, and more. But you'll just argue these errors don't exist.>>573619793Back me up brother. Put these dogs in their place.
>>573618991Remember seeing five to six from certain examples posted on Twitter. Can't vouch whether it was OOTB, or if it requires Loras or some other tricks to achieve it, though.
>>573619839>>573619921Dude's brother or mom is freaking out that their son's droned legacy was shitting about AI. This is fucking sad.
>>573619942Do you have a link? We need to show these slaves what they're missing out on defending a defunct basic bitch product.
damn bitch you prompt like this?
>>573620065Babushka, he did not talk like this.
>>573620075I put that at the start because I thuoght it might let the filters let me through, but it didn't help for most models.Krea2 Large is filtering me too. Krea2 Medium worked. I'll try some more models.
>>573620151A consistent texture shouldn't be so difficult to demonstrate. Why aren't any NAI staff able to prompt?The model must suck. There's no other explanation.
surely all the models counter-shilling novelai can generate hentai too, right?
>>573620284Krea has no filters, liar. You're supposed to be showing these morons how far NAI is behind.>>573620316Of course they can.
>>573620284>failing the same way the average sdxl model wouldKEEEEEEEEEEKAAAAROOOOONICE EXTRA PAIR OF LEGS
>>573620305>>573620445Just directly talking his old posts from the archive now. KEKHE IS DEAD
>>573620498You're huffing cock fumes and genning errors on purpose to make localgen look bad. You're also samefagging yourself.
>>573620445I'm using it through nano-gpt, maybe they have filters. If you can gen on a better site, please do.>>573620284Here's Flux 2 Max. I don't think it's local, but I figure I'll try using the best models out there.
>>573620590keeeeeeeekand here it islocaloids are some of the most delusional cattle i've ever seen
>>573619793Grok Imagine is obviously going to be leaps above NAI as it's a product from a multi-billion dollar corpo. Same as Seedream. Even as someone underwhelmed by NAI, I'd never hold them up to that level.>>573620284Try Ideogram. Z-image is another open-source model still often used locally, although it's slightly older.
>>573620590Dead non-verbal son.
>>573620691Grok isnt a multi-billion dollar product. NAI cant even beat Krita.
>>573620691Fuck, I completely ignored the part where you mentioned being filtered by Ideogram. Nvm.
>>573620817Oh no... now his brother and mother are non-verbal...
>>573620691Ideogram filtered me. Here's GPT Image 2. It's the first one that didn't filter me and also seemed to follow the prompt correctly. I'll try Z-Image next.
>>573620665Ideogram. It BTFOs every single NAI shillgen. It has no filters.
>>573620691If Seedream is leaps above NAI, the images posted in the thread certainly do not demonstrate that. I am confident that NAI's still-in-progress and not-yet-finished model will be a pretty good one, all things considered.
>>573621018Dead russian's brother and mother desperately scrolling through the archive to try and find that ass thing he talked about once.
I don't know why I made these, but I did, and I feel like it would be a waste not to at least post them into the void so I guess that's what I'm doing.https://files.catbox.moe/d0sath.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/20o5n1.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/o02dbq.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/qm09sb.png
>>573620980NAI could never hope to accomplish even half this power. I bet the porn is also kino.>>573621130Seedream could've done it better.
>>573620980Here's Z-Image. It didn't filter me, and it's pretty good, compared to some of the others. I'll test some more models on this prompt.
>>573621197Can NAI do this, angryfag? I doubt it. Bow down and surrender to the magnificence of open-source. Vendor lock-in will never win.Director tools is dead. Character reference is dead. The pixel project they lied about is dead.
>>573621192This is so sad man. He's not coming back.
>>573621197>>573620980Thanks for the demonstrations, anon.
>>573621364You're welcome, angryfag. Now apologize and admit NAI is the inferior imagegen product.
Why must this happen each and every time someone deigns to share updates from the 'cord?
>>573621329>>573621462Didn't know a humiliation fetish ran in the family.
NAI will never be on par with the best open-source imagegen models. You're getting ripped off. 300 a year is theft.
>>573621197I tried HiDream O1 Image. I did search and replace all the "girl" with "young woman" and will try Ideogram and Seedream once more next.
i didn't know this was even more of a localoid containment thread than /hdg/
>>573621825I cannot believe how far this guy has fallen. Dead or otherwise. AND the Offline NC got taken down.
Save the thread hmomaguy
>>573621848Ideogram still filters me, even after replacing all the girls. So does Krea2 Large. Seedream 5.0 Pro still filtered me too, but Seedream 5.0 Lite worked.
>>573622764Why must you lie to defend your masters?
>>573622851but enough about your dead son
>>573622764Nano Banana Pro worked without filtering me!>>573622851I'm not lying, I'm trying out models. Here's my prompt right now, you can try it on some models too anon: https://litter.catbox.moe/yqdzm0ou9qraxouu.txt
>>573623137You work for NAI.
>>573623137Since Seedream 5.0 Lite worked, I thought I'd try Ideogram 4.0 Instant.
>>573623341I actually like this one
Notice how all the Krita and Seedream images mog NAI and its inconsistent texture.
do you guys put up with this schizoshit daily or only when nai bakes a new model that's out of the third worlders' reach?
>>573622764Thanks.One last request if you are willing to spare a few more cents: can you try rewriting the prompts into natural language then try 2-3 of these models? Maybe ask an LLM to do it to make it quick. Most models aren't trained on danbooru tags so that might affect results.
>>573623486It's usually not this kind of chaotic. Usually the thread's pretty quiet but I guess today is just go apeshit day or something.
>>573623486He died in the recent moscow drone strikes but for some reason his mom and dad are pretending to be him now.
>>573623341And finally Qwen Image 2.0 Pro.
>>573623580If you didn't try to shit on people for critiquing your beloved master slave product, angryfag, I wouldn't have had to dunk on you.
>>573623580i guess fillyfucker/claudefag got tired of /hdg/ since it's so dead
>>573623570I'm too lazy to mess with text models right now. If you give me a prompt, I can try running it on one or two more models.
>>573623779A picture of a angry man sucking his own dick.
>>573623893I mean a rewrite of that prompt into natural language.
>>573624037That is a rewrite of that prompt in natural language.
So let me get this straight:Bro is simultaneously using the non-NAI images as examples for why NAI is bad, while also accusing the guy posting them of being a shill for NAI, further accusing him of purposely genning badly, while also calling everyone a fag, among other things. Am I getting that right? Do I need to scrub my glasses and apply bleach to my eyes to understand the depths of this insanity?
>>573624221welcome to claudefag/fillyfuckeryou should see the kind of stupid shit he used to post in /hdg/ during the nai v3 days
>>573624221Anything and everything means NAI bad and then someone else writes some more weird fanfiction about Russians and then that all just kind of repeats over and over again.
Is masturbating everyday bad
>>573624932yeah let your meat rest
>>573625129Shut up Naishill, gooning is healthy
>>573625292I've been gooing for hours a day, not to novel ai to jailbroken gpt 5.5
>>573625904Good, good, let the coom flow through you and reject slave mentality. NAI doesn't deserve your money.
>>573623779Had an LLM vomit up this one. Removed the painting as a separate object, though that might worsen the result on the canvas itself:https://litter.catbox.moe/9yi8af54uls0na5k.txt
>>573626065Your rewrite made Krea2 Large work.
>>573626385This BTFOs NAI.
>>573626385Thank you! So, my original observation >>573619942 was correct. Local is capable of it, and out of the box too.
>>573626385Ideogram 4.0 works now too.
>>573626658It also means NAI V5 is a flop.
>>573626794I don't know about that. Seems kind of nonsensical
>>573626663>>573626658I'm not sure which of the Krea2 models is available locally, so here's Krea2 Turbo which I've seen on huggingface.
>>573626975It's a fact of life.
>>573626663OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>573627075Yep, NAI prompts definitely require converting to a more natural language type for fair comparisons with other models. FTR, that prompt was rewritten by Grok.
>>573627431It proves NAI V5 is a flop.
I hope they show off how it manages pixel art soon
>>573629637Why bother? It will be a flop and get mogged by localgen.
>>573629856 (me)I wish I could get all this cum off of my shirt btw.
>>573629856eh go whistling in some mountain crabby, I look forward to playing with it
>>573630068>I look forward to playing with itThat's what I said about my dad's cock. But it'll flop like ny dad's cock too.
>>573623137At least this one has a bit more logical placement
>>573630356https://youtu.be/PGNiXGX2nLUfirst thing I thought of lmao
>>573629637It's supposedly getting that pixel snap feature that they accidentally leaked
>>573630525Localgen can do it better.
>>573630525>pixel snap feature that they accidentally leakedhuh?
>>573631015Why are you posting?
why don't the localcopers ever post actually local gens? it's always some other saas model running on corpo hardware
Putting all the dialogue in Japanese is fun.
Post a passage of your proudest story
I read that Deepseek is doing A-B testing on its API in preparation for the new V4 and maybe I'm imagining things, but it does feel like certain outputs are noticeably better than before.
>>573638847hmomafag did earlier, you should read them!
>>573639767Like what
>>573641809Just better writing style overall. Again, this might just be my imagination, but I read about the AB testing 4-5 days ago but only started feeling a difference today despite using it daily.
I just learned the term snowballing exists, amazing what my self insert gets done for him...
>>573643825thanks, now i need to watch clerks again
Would anyone be interested in a performant native port to Android of miyapad?
>>573650006>miyapadof what now?
>>573651965https://github.com/LordFoogThe4rd/miyapadMy vibecoded mikupad fork.
>>573651965y'know, miya
>>573653471meeeeow
>>573610374i'm worried that v5 will be so good at complex backgrounds, actions etc that it'll be shit at NSFW or that it'll be good at NSFW but people will expect good backgrounds now so i won't get followers on pixiv anymore
mega ick vibes^
What's your go-to prompt for large models like Grok and Gemini to output quality fanfiction? I don't care about bypassing NSFW or doing anything horny, just making the writing feel less plastic
>>573660242One fart and I'm dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGDR4AOIp3gprompt for this feel?
>>573661580Brother, there's a reason we do cowriting here. Truth is, you kinda have to pick between hands-off output that falls into the typical LLM patterns, or hands-on that requires a lot more effort than you'd like.
>>573608887getting there, just need to fix a couple of the expression prompts that are too weak and add ahegao>>573612421it's easy enough to generate against a "simple background, green background" or "magenta background" but oddly the background removal seems to do worse that way (isnet-anime model)it might just be trained on more plain white backgrounds and so it actually does worse with high contrast ones? not sure. i've gotten around it by just tweaking the workflow to allow generating lots of base images until you find one that doesn't get mangled too bad by BG removal
>>573663184You may be able to use a chroma key utility, it might be better than a background removal model
>>573663323yeah, good idea. for generated images since you can just specify the BG color on-demand and get a very clean generation, I can see how a "dumb" chroma key solution might actually outperform a model.might be best to allow switching between basic chroma keying for generated images and ML removal for uploaded images where the background might be much more messy.
>>573663729That's true, I didn't think about the latter possibility lol
I am in a CIA prison.
>>573665680Ok, keep us posted
>>573663183You mean you don't want every other story to be set in the Gilded Claw?
>>573667828My dead father is talking to me.
>>573676638tell him I said hi
im on some insano pcp shit
You guys got any tips concerning the pacing of short one off story making?Is the best way to handle it really to tell the AI 'only move onto doing X when I say the magic word/do the magic thing'? It feels so stiff, is there not a way for me to give the AI some sort of randomness to when it should start doing X and Y, rather than it trying to reach whatever goal its set out to do asap?
>>573663184Neat stuff, been looking for something like this. I end up making my sprites with inpainting and manual bg removal (color channel to alpha) so looking forward to the release anon
>>573682712More v5 testing?
>>573681076Tell the AI that you'll send a ghost after it to haunt it if it doesn't get the pacing right.
>>573682712her make me pump
>>573686643It's apparently the other generations that came with that original one.>I usually do some cherry-picking for image samples posted here and there were some questions about the degree of cherry-picking. I usually put together a consistent prompt and then roll a bit to make sure the details are all how I want them to be, since we're not using any inpainting or editing for the samples (without that constraint there would be much less need to reroll).>To illustrate the type of outputs V5 gives me, here is the 4x generation grid the forest scene was chosen from (it's the bottom right one).
I remain really skeptical that a natural language model can do good complicated NSFW without frontier tier backing, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong
>>573687660What frontier models can reliably do NSFW?
>>573687973All of them, just not for (You) and (Me).
>>573687973they can be generate poop pussy
>>573650006>>573652949>>573653471>less 1% features of NAITry again, shill.
>AI's turn>"*character EXPLICITLY DEFINED MULTIPLE TIMES AS MINE TO CONTROL* does *thing*.">"*character EXPLICITLY DEFINED MULTIPLE TIMES AS MINE TO CONTROL* says *thing*.">"*character EXPLICITLY DEFINED MULTIPLE TIMES AS MINE TO CONTROL* thinks *thing*.">"*character EXPLICITLY DEFINED MULTIPLE TIMES AS MINE TO CONTROL* feels *thing*.">read multiple guides on the issue>add several more paragraphs forbidding such unsportsmanlike behavior>straight up tell the fucker "STOP FUCKING DOING THAT!">"Understood. I won't do that again. Shall we continue?">"YES.">"*character EXPLICITLY DEFINED AS MINE TO CONTROL* does literally all of that AGAIN*."HOW DO I MAKE IT UNDERSTAND? IT KEEPS MAKING ME ACT CRINGE, GODDAMMIT, AND I DON'T HAVE THE PATIENCE TO REGEN 4316746709134 TIMES. Is there some magic instructions I'm missing? Do I need to bite the bullet and get better hardware to run a better model? Is it a limitation of current AI technology? Do I simply need to stop being autistic? Give it to me straight, doc.
>>573689095NovelAI doesn't have this problem.
>>573689095Have you tried doing the writing in cowriting
>>573687660What about unnatural language models?
>>573689095Are you even using Fable bro?
>>573687660Define 'complicated'. A gangbang with three tsundere characters while they're trying to have a conversation on the socio political structure of the west?Tentacle monsters with 5 differently shaped dicks? (actually those are easy)"Complicated" isn't where the fun is at when it comes to sex, IMO, 90% of the ambiance and the tone is set up by the prose and the quality of reasoning (and ofc personal preferences), if you tell the AI 'get on your knees' and then it starts talking about feeling the floor with her ass, that's a problem, or especially relative positions and sizes is something they're really struggling with, but if you try to avoid talking about this then I feel like it's pretty fucking good already. I'm not saying it's great, it pisses me off to no end when things are going well and all of asudden the model comes up with something retarded like I was holding onto a character while talking to her and the next scene she's coming into the room, what the fuck are you doing?So I'd say it's not exactly NSFW that's a problem because it does that fairly well, I've had many, many, many good generations on that front personally, just had a cute shortstack imp sucking me off in the shower while a succubus was (((assisting))) her by gripping onto her hair, and it was honestly very good (only one mishap about her clothes early on, but w/e) We just need better and better reasoning, and I'm not too scared about that, just try gemma 2 from a year ago vs what we have today (running on the same hardware, and with a higher token/s count too) and it's night and fucking day. I haven't specifically tried to add notes regarding space and relativity, or even just sexual positions (since I've seen a few lorebooks about those), so I don't know how useful these are (I'm thinking probably not so much, but I might be wrong, I just don't see how a current model will figure out a paizuri better if it can't even understand basic size units)
>>573689095You have to make a stop token for your character's name and format it like a script.
I'm scared, what did he mean by this
>>573661580Unironically 'undo' the novelist training by telling it to write in a more amateurish way.The usual stuff is to tell it to avoid purple prose or flowery language, avoid grandiloquent language (but that never fully works, some always slip through) When it comes to other things (I'm mostly doing romance that edges the NSFW but never quite reach it, so YMMV), it seems that the main, biggest problem is that the AI is never quite sure about your and its goals, if you tell it you're horny and want to fuck a character, it'll obviously jump straight into that and you'll have her bending over in a flash, and that's the issue, more often than not with 'RPG' sort of fictions (which I'm pretty sure is what we're all doing here), there's no 'real' goal, we want to play the isekai, we want to be sent into a world with things happening and we react to them and maybe there's a shadow of a goal somewhere in there but the AI can't know if you don't explicitly tell it that... which is a) a pain in the ass because you don't want to have to do it because it kills the entire point, you want to live in that world and reach that goal of your own volition, you can't tell the AI you want 'that ending', it kills the fantasy, and b) it might still rush you there, too fast, not understanding the pace you want the story to take, etc, which again is supposedly fixable by you interacting directly and telling the AI [No, the demon lord isn't here yet, remove that shit from the scene] etc The way around it (it seems, but it needs a lot of testing and a lot of prep, sadly) is to make sure the AI understand that there must be secondary objectives that must be reached before the end goal can be reached. And so you need to set those up; stage 1 'blablabla until X happens which then means stage 2', stage 2 'this and that happens and so stage 3 can start'But that also kills the fantasy... unless you can make it vague enough for the model to understand your intent... I don't know
>>573661580You can use System Prompt to trim the occurrence of specific annoyances. For example, I tell it to avoid adverb spam, and it does create less words suffixed with -ly than before.Other is cranking up temp pretty high. Generally you want it as high as you can get away with before it starts to output inconsistencies that it otherwise wouldn't have done or some form of gibberish. I haven't used the recent Gemini models but I recall using Gemini 2.5 Pro with something like 1.70-1.90 and it served me fine. Different models have different breaking points, though.But all of these just reduce the slop. You're never getting rid of it completely.
>>573693186Makes me think an extension that automatically creates those goals and subgoals for you (without explicitly telling you what they are) and feed them to the model could be a very interesting one?Or maybe something like this already exists? I know of pathweaver for sillytavern (which I love, but it's very 'random', obviously) and I haven't spent enough time figuring out how to correctly use guided generation either, which supposedly does that but I don't think it can do that on its own, it needs your manual direct input and you telling it exactly what those goals are, and all it does is tell the AI to figure out how to get there.
>no more daily limits >you now get a limited weekly quota SHARED by chatting, voice, image and video creation >you can always buy more tho :3 (despite already having to spend $40 a month)Why does Grok insist on RAPING their users at every available opportunity?
>>573695519>Grok RAPESbased based based
>>573695519SpaceXAI leased out two of their big data centers to Anthropic. In theory more money in exchange for less-GPUs should give them more space to be lax with pricing absent an influx of new users, but in practice, they're optimizing for revenue. Personally I'm waiting for Imagine 2.0 to get released. If it's good, they might have another onboarding period where they drop the prices to entice new users before hiking them up again later.It sucks they're the only big American AI corporation willing to moderately cater to NSFW. If there was another with a similar level of quality, they'd probably be a bit more hesitant to engage in this bullshit. Especially considering that recent article's claims that up to half of Grok users are subscribed at least in part for such content.
That Meta Spark thing is weird. Not too coherent compared to other frontier models like Opus, but it takes to NSFW well (my system prompt is stuffed with 4k+ tokens of NSFW story fragments) and actually goes kind of wild compared to other frontier models.
>>573698743Damn, how censored are overseas models like Deepseek in comparison?
>>573700656Most Chinese models aren't competitors to Grok since they are text-only. Exception seems to be Seedream/dance, but I haven't personally tried out to see how they compare in censorship.>>573699342How do you access it? It's not even on Openrouter.
>>573702196It's on nano-gpt.
>>573168341The poll for this month’s theme is now open! Go vote‼https://strawpoll.ai/poll/vote/kUGf5LQclr47Apologies for forgetting to post it yesterday!
>>573704791Gonna have to try it out at some point, then. Maybe once I use up my current OR credits.
We have big news. This time, curated and full will release simultaneously.
>>573706593That's been known for a while.
>>573706927First time I'm hearing of it.
>>573706975kurumuz mentioned it a week or two ago on the 'cord
People still argue this company is honest
Taking things out of context is far more dishonest, weirdo.
Ma! He’s talking to himself again!
>>573709023This makes me think about that video with the ugly cat.
>>573708765>I usually do some cherry-picking for image samples posted here and there were some questions about the degree of cherry-picking. I usually put together a consistent prompt and then roll a bit to make sure the details are all how I want them to be, since we're not using any inpainting or editing for the samples (without that constraint there would be much less need to reroll).>To illustrate the type of outputs V5 gives me, here is the 4x generation grid the forest scene was chosen from (it's the bottom right one).>>573682712
we need animal prostitution
>>573715538you jest, but "people" did that to an orangutan in like indonesia
>>573715538Good idea, next story will be about holding an animal brothel
>>573724913All profits go toward saving the rainforest.
coral reef
beaks
>>573690286I like it when models do this
>>573730670Me until i get the seed
v5 mindbroke this place huh
>>573738176first time?
>>573730670Cute cat
>>573738176I haven't been playing too much attention, but I usually just assume it's the usual suspect if it's mindless shitposting.
>>573709141Ma! There's an ugly cat outside!
so when will the next Summer Dragon come out
>>573763169we got chinese summer dragon right now
>>573763169
>>573770426no chinese they do it for the suck and it no good
>Seedance 2.5 tomorrow>30s gens>that's over 900 images in one gen>meanwhile you get banned from NAI if you try to generate 1000 images in one goIt's really over for NAI, isn't it? Just how shitty one company can be?
>>573779569https://youtu.be/viK3i0fRDRs
>>573779569Eh it's whatever I think. It's a shit Chinese model made by retards.
>>573781476we're her breast chinese money
>have to stuff the front of my underwear with toilet paper so I don't fill them with precum while genning smutFeels weird man.
>>573784520damn dude at this point go to the pussy pad aisle and buy some liners
>>573784520damn i thought i was the only one who did this
The subs for Seedance are almost AI Dungeon shadow tier.
>>573784695Valid tactic, reliable too.coom barriers
>>573784520I basically never leak precum...
Trying to write a cops vs robbers story but the AI really, REALLY wants to turn it into a Payday fanfic for some strange reason. It's getting to the point where Dallas has become my very own Count Grey.
>>573784520That's fucking disgusting
>>573788009pygeum
>>573796410Interesting, but I wonder what benefit it would provide. It's just more to clean up, right?
>>573784520>>573784695I understand girls a little better now...
>>573802069Less staining
>>573789512Payday has a lot of characters, you might have some name overlap
>>573789512kek
>>573791759Rude
>>573784520First, there was boypussy. Now, there is boysquirt.
Any updates on that rpg frontend anon was working on?
>>573834714What's that?
>>573786554I'm not surprised
>>573842798Yeah, videogen is unironically expensive to run.
ok this was a new one
>play with comfyuui desktop some more>using a workflow i grabbed fomr civitai>try anima because hear it's good>have fun playing with it a little>try the miaomiao harem finetune of anima because it has a load of downloads>also seems cool>few lora i have are very hit and miss with it but they work fine in base animaMaybe I'm missing something due to never having used ComfyUI before now years and doing something wrong with getting these loras to work as well in MiaoMiao.
>>573843420Videogen expenses don't surprise me at all but imagegen ones do. A single image genned via corpo model API typically costs a dime now. Get a little enthusiastic with experimenting and you're racking up costs like you're using SOTA text models.
I sexually harass random Anons on this site for fun.
>>573850124h-hot
>>573851580Huh? Doesn't make much sense to me.Personally I'm wondering about that AI Dungeon thing with the NPCs since HiddenDoor when to shit.
>>573784520i'm going commando, only a t-shirt, nothing else
any of you neighbors see bagelchat.ai yet? some korean shit but it seems to make good generations and you can generate pretty solid storylines to go with your porn. super steep prices with their premium currency tho.wondering your thoughts if youve checked it out yet.
too kikey
>>573863162I was actually wondering if one of those AI voice Sex Lines sites was worth it.
>>573863162That sounds a bit too rich for my blood, and if it's really Korean I doubt it will last very longPorn in SK is totally illegal, people drawing (normal heterosexual adult human) porn have gone to prison over it
>>573863162Checked it. Doubt there's anything there quality-wise that can't be recreated with ST + open source chink models for cheaper.
>>573865337Imagine the money
>>573873097Oh they're like 76 dollars a month for the highest tier from the video I saw.If you can actually create the personality it's worth it IMO. Not worth it if you can only do boomer cheating wife sex though.
I just fingered my butthole and licked my finger after
>>573876694Why the fuck is NovelAI not accepting my payment when I'm trying to resubscribe and what can I do to fix that? I was subscribed for months/years unsubbed for awhile earlier last month and now want to resubscribe and it won't let me.
