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>>573084330

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
May 21 Helldivers x Warhammer 40K https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRQi00kCST8
Jun 04 Progressiong Progression https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/668367347548946858
Jun 16 Supply & Flamer FRVs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMRAOyw5MV4
Jun 30 R-4 Termicide 2.0 & Hyena https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5xxT-LWRYY

>LATEST PATCHES
Jun 16 1.006.300 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/676249280988579951
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I am ONCE AGAIN opening a lobby tonight, because the last one was very kino
get in!!!!!!
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>>573204840
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242133195017/76561198141964882
forgot the code, you know, like a retard.
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helloooooo
where is warbond?
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>>573204967
failed
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>>573204840
>>573204967
>>573205112
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242144925834/76561198141964882
I guess I had to refresh my page. Try this one.
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>>573204723
haven’t played this since the hiveworld caves update. how’s the game now vros?
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>>573205353
It's decent, all in all. A bit more stable, crash-wise, in my experience.
>>573204967
3/4!
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>>573204967
FULL
K____ A______, it seems you crashed, and your spot was instantly stolen. I'm sorry....
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I go sleep, and when i wake up there will be an update with content :D
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>>573205905
Disconnected somehow. First time I had that happen. It's alright. Happens.
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>>573206025
ok gamergirl
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>>573206025
2 days on the MO, so probably more like thursday
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>bugchaser gets IP wiped
>mfw looking at all the freshly deleted posts last thread
I'm noooooooooticing again
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Hey guys. How do I make my super destroyer people white again?
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Bros... Something's wrong with my squids...
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We do we get to hug the bugs?
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>Limited to 3
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>>573207452
>every single deleted post is pure garbage
what a quality poster
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>>573207452
>>573208420
Rape victim dilation hours have arrived.
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>>573208491
you are genuinely one of the worst posters on this site and although this is my first reply to you it will also be the last. Good luck getting through my exhaustive autistic filter.
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>projecting rape victim returns to get humiliated in front of the whole thread again
uh oh bugchaser melty incoming
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>I-I-I'm not raped!!! I'm actually laughing at you right now!!
Raped creature dilation hours for sure
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TIE ME TO A ICBM AND LAUNCH IT TO CYBERSTAN
THE RAPE OF CYBERSTAN MUST CONTINUE. I'M ITCHING TO DO IT AGAIN. I WANT TO DO FUCKED UP THINGS TO CLANKERS SO MUCH I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING INSANE

GOD
PLEASE
SEND ME BACK TO CYBERSTAN
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>>573208420
Its so surreal how theres a grown man out there in the world who spends his whole day pushing this bizzare tribal war in a PvE game every single day of the week. Genuine mental illness.
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>>573208652
Consider switching to reddit if you need filters, little raped creature.
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>>573209141
Also the rape obsession
Someone tell the feds we got a ripe MK ultra candidate here
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new alien faction WHEN?
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>>573209141
>>573209502
Rape victim projection lol
This is the part where you say "BUT ALL OF IT IS LE BAD"
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die
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>>573209881
Kemono website
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>>573209502
Honestly if they made it so new IPs that havnt been to 4chan cant post for 72 hours it would solve ban evading in an instant.
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>>573209671
I want to fuck that fox.
source?
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>he's still going
You're the biggest faction shitposter here, axe wound. You just don't like when you get pushback.
See : >>573209772 before you pipe up again.
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>>573209093
Remember how after we lost Oshaune we had a bunch of MOs to prepare us for round 2 when we liberated it? Notice how that didn't happen for Cyberstan? Or how they literally cut off all access to the planet after the MO?
The Automatons are the Swedes self-insert oc (do not steal) and we will NEVER be allowed to take their homeworld. You will LOSE to the based Socialists like the good little chud you are and you will be THANKFUL for the opportunity to practice media literacy this deep.
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Im going to imagine these two as bratty teenage girls
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>>573210956
Rape victim forgot how he was handed basically free reinforcements multiple times.
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>bugchaser conveniently forgetting how many bailouts Joel gave xhem in their 'just play the game' MO to the point hivelords and dragonroaches were removed
>STILL loses the MO anyways
sad!
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>>573209671
What would it look like? Honestly I want slime/ the blob that is weak to gas
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>>573209950
Wrong, go to /trash/.
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>>573210105
Komen Fuufu
It's too based to originate from this timeline
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>Kem--ACK-!
Carry this agony with you on your way to the trashcan where scum like you belong.
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>>573210956
I wish I could be media illiterate, I wish being silly whimsical ignorant fool was normal
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>>573211575
Maybe you should get your mod daddies to do something about it then, queerbag.
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>just play the game" MOs
Oh NO NO NO
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lsd lobby, get in here. we doing 1 single mission
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242150357839/76561199586955078
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>>573212051
2/4
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>>573211284
You forgot (because you're a faggot and your mind is full of dicks) that with the OC Donutsteel brigades were set up around cyberstan, it was blatantly obvious the pajeet would've used them for asspull if the MO was succesful
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So you admit to adding furshit to your original post in bad faith, specifically knowing you'd get collectively shat on. Can't tell if you're a glutton for punishment or simply really retarded.
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>>573212051
Why even bother hosting if you're only going to play one mission, retarded furnigger
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>>573212396
>furnigger
modded lobby?
for HUMAN MEN?
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>>573212396
your loss lol
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>>573212320
Didnt they get literally raped in this video? Is that what you want? To get raped?
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>>573212396
>looney toons
>furshit
based retard
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>>573205335
ggs that was fucked
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>>573213189
>looney toons
>not furshit
It's furshit by definition, retard. Do you think just because it was made before the internet that somehow makes it not furshit?
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was that one turbo autist nigga getting nuked last thread or multiple tards
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content doko
warbond doko
buff's doko
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>>573213912
What are you even saying, goat?
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>>573213954
I never use this thing, it kills me more than any other guard dog
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brattbots
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>>573214294
How? It literally flies into melee range of enemies
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>>573213912
by that definition cave paintings of animals from a million years ago are furshit, stop imagining things to get mad at.
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>>573211284
Silence retard
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>>573214849
Cave paintings do not have anthropomorphism.
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>>573209671
4th faction imaginings are a dime a dozen and generally they zero in on an anti-SE rebellion faction, a primitivist alien species often but not always based on lizardmen/Dinosaurs, an eldritch/hellish extra-dimensional incursion faction Ala 40k or Doom or another human or Alien civilization analogous to super earth which fights with normal stand up military tactics that are aggressively the same as SE itself.
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What if it was the Lombaxes from ratchet and clank?
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i just finished my curriculum and i'm so fucking depressed because i did so many fucking jobs
do a lobby or else
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Ok I guess im quitting the game now because my super destroyer people were white. And some DEI apparently made them ALL brown.. and removed the badass scars on my democracy officers face.. fuck this game.
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fourth faction should be naked 8ft tall demihuman muscle females
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Extractions just havent felt the same ever since
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>>573215404
It would cause massive defections which would leave an opening for Arrowhead to introduce rebels after their 10 year vacation.
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>>573215705
clankers stole my image
Heil Democracy
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>>573215196
Kemetic gods are furshit
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>>573215875
Correct.
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>>573215705
and that's a good thing
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>>573215875
Prolly cus aminals are rare ina fucking desert.
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>>573215985
No its not
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>>573215196
>depictions of minotaurs (man with bull head), harpies (woman with wings) and ancient gods are not anthromorphism because they were drawn in a cave
waow
go back to /trash/ already nigga
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>>573216046
and by that you mean it actually is
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>>573216104
Wrong
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>>573215659
She has a thick foot long canine cock btw
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>>573216159
is what you would say if I were incorrect, which I'm not
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>>573216162
Do you even know how dogs have sex?
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>>573216209
Wrong
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>>573216275
>>573216209
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>>573216261
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>>573216325
You lost
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>>573216345
Its a process where the male and female become "tied" together for a time. An incompatible process for the human mind.
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>>573216065
>Posts no examples
I accept your concession.
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>>573216586
Tell that to white women!
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>>573216663
>Canadians
FTFY
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So how meh do we think this thing will be? It looks pretty beefy and the huge muzzle brake on the barrel is very eye-catching, but at best it's going to be AP3 or have impressive stagger force, with what looks like a 20-round magazine. Which probably means it's going to have less damage per round than the DCS.
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>>573216934
Its just broth.. but its soup.
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Please I want to uninstall because of these brown people on my ship. What do I do!?
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Use mods to make them white
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Damn. In on console. Like the rest of the poor people. That's probably why they are all brown! Catering to the gibbs for bodies to throw at the war effort. Sick.
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>>573216934
Disregard that, I suck cocks. I only just now realized that it's theme-named after the Coyote and it set that Alpha Commander on fire. So, we have an incendiary marksman's rifle, it could be as bustedly bullshit as the Coyote and outclass the DCS.
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>>573217694
I want to face impossible odds with retarded weaponry.
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just finished a d10 on mox wind randos
One True Flag
Ballistic Shield
Leveler
EAT
Medium armor with DD

had fun
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so hows the performance with dx12 is the new tech sneak oil and i should go back to dx11+vulkan?
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>>573218017
Good job. GG
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>>573217694
It mogs the DCS even without the incendiary effect. Leaks showed it had 220 damage and the same mag capacity.
It's all gonna come down to whether the ergo is better or not.
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>>573216934
>>573217694
It will probably have the bad ergo of the DCS, and the base damage of the standard Diligence, but the fire dot will "balance it". Unfortunately, waiting for things to die to fire is kinda lame so it wont feel good to use.
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>>573216934
EDF gun proportions
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>>573216934
I just wish we had a proper FAL/M14/SVD-like hard hitting marksman rifle like how this *looks*. The DCS is an abysmal plinking rifle with the recoil and ergo of a 50 cal and none of the power. The closest we get is the fucking amendment, a light pen Diligence side-grade.
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>>573216934
I'll just grab dagger if I want to set bugs on fire from a distance
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>>573218828
>dcs
>bad
Have you been playing a different version of helldivers 2? What a retarded take
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>>573216934
It looks way cooler than the diligence so theres that
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>>573219842
You only say that because you haven't given it's due.
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I feel like the game is pretty well balanced. Whenever I die, there's usually a good explanation for it most of the time: a series of logical events that led to it. Maybe I wasn't being careful, maybe I had bad aim, etc
I've seen people rage at bots because they get shot and die, calling it bullshit.
Like brother, you're not in cover and you're allowing these robots to hurl grenades, rockets, and whatever else they have. Of course you died, you let them kill you.
Sure there is some junk sometimes courtesy of sweden but the majority of the time you can't blame them for your own mistakes.
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>>573219334
It feels like shooting a shittier Diligence.
Marksman rifles, as currently implemented, benefit immensely from targeting light pen weak points rather than dumping ammo on medpen torsos or tank weakpoints. The glacial ergo and colossal recoil make follow up shots take way longer than ideal using the DCS, so even aiming for center mass you'll have to put in extra effort & time to kill. Except the DCS has less ammo too, so you'll spend more time reloading after spending more ammo to kill a target. It also "benefits" from a fucking awful durable damage percentage, making it so the sole advantage of medpen, the ability to damage medpen vehicle weak spots, very very bad. It takes almost a full mag to shoot down a fucking GUNSHIP, assuming you hit every shot as you drag the 50kg rifle around that target. Don't even think about shooting a tank vent with it, you'll likely have to reload thrice before it actually dies.
I leveled both to 25, playing on all factions. DCS struggled to kill chaff on all 3 & mediums of bots & squids due to low mag size and bad ergo+recoil, whereas diligence excelled on bot chaff & mediums, was alright on bug & squid chaff and meh vs bug & squid mediums.
In my experience, the only perceptible upside of the DCS is the abiltiy to headshot bug fatsos & hive guards.
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>>573220960
*gets ragdolled through a wall, falling into lava*
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>has no reason to exist in you're path
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>>573221291
as with most med-pen "side-grades" (downgrades) to existing weapons. DCS, Adjudicator, Libpen, Verdict, are all mediocre to bad, with way too many sacrifices for too little gain.
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>>573221291
The lib pen, lib carbine, and tendie are the best ARs in the game though
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>>573222123
>lib carbine
yes
>tenderizer, lib pen
nyo...
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242160787213/76561198325444995

bugchasing time
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>>573223743
failed
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>>573223839
ammending, also playing mox. i am retarded and assumed it was bug stomping

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242161213379/76561198325444995
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i saw someone spawn in super credits from a hellpod once
whats the method?
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>>573224175
Anon, I...
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>>573224175
It's booster in one of the warbonds.
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>>573224175
Being chinese (i got 5k SC the other day because I let a chink in)
>>573221291
Lib pen drum mag is close to sex
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>>573224175
Too late now cuh
I saved up 50k super credits, now the SC hacks got fixed
I can still spam you samples, medals and RP tho
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>>573209671
Can't see that happening
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>>573221291
I am yet to hear one argument as to why and how every gun has to be unique.
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which is better?
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>>573226175
The Bushwhacker.
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>>573226175
Squids/Bugs the dildo. Bots the pissile.
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>>573219334
dcs is bad and anyone saying that its good haven't played the game in the past 12 months.
marksman rifles need 2 things:
high damage, high ergo.
DCS has none of those.
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D10, Any
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242163334199/

>>573225869
After playing Restoration Mod for Payday 2, which balances guns based on the caliber they use, it has me questioning why they didn't do that for this game. It seems like it would make the game less of a logistical nightmare to balance with its three factions and durability mechanic. Granted I'm sure there's some nuance lost on me since they're not the exact same game. But regardless it accomplished making any gun more than viable, and realistically people will always gravitate toward the meta choices so why not let there be variety for those that want it by standardizing certain aspects of guns?
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>>573226175
soulless/soul, simple as
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>>573226634
3/4
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So there are several problems with smoke in the game:

1. The coverage area is too small to be effective
2. It's unreliable since sometimes enemies outright ignore it and can simply walk through it to break the effect
3. There are very few options for utilizing it, and all of them take up valuable loadout slots (booster, stratagems, grenade)
4. It inflicts no crowd control at all and is worse than simply killing the enemy instead

While it would be nice to have additional smoke options (Smoke Dog, Smoke Grenade Pistol, Smoke Mines, maybe even a support weapon grenade launcher that can switch grenade types), the main problem that needs to be solved first is that it needs to provide a benefit beyond "enemies in this area might stop trying to kill me but only if the RNG is in my favor and I don't move somewhere where the smoke doesn't block their line of sight anymore." As it currently stands, gas is infinitely better than smoke since the blind/confuse does more to stop enemies from trying to kill you, on top of dealing enough damage to kill chaff without even really trying.

First idea I can think of is, inflict any enemies within the smoke cloud with blind/confuse, so that they at least stop trying to kill you for a while, their aggro gets temporarily broken, and it's harder for them to run in a straight line through the gas cloud. Increasing the size of the smoke clouds so that the coverage is easier to use would also help, or at least improve the dispersal of the multi-shot smoke pellets so that they cover a wider area instead of all blowing up in the same general area. If smoke can more reliably break enemy aggro and is less liable to become worthless based on small positional changes, that would go a long way towards making it less worthless.
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Is game good now? Or we're still in Arrowheads game development loop?
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>>573227796
it's still shit
much better than it was a few months ago though
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>>573228026
Is Grenade Launcher back?
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>>573227796
>Is game good now?
lol
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If arrowhead were to add a 4th faction, how could they make it mechanically unique from the other factions?
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>>573228119
It WAS back until the nerf trannies and the sloptubers literally begged Narrowhead to nerf it back to Medium pen
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>>573226634
fvll
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>>573227796
Its always been good. Its /hdg/ which is shit.
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>>573228614
if you think the grenade launcher sucks with only 3 pen you're a turbo shitter
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>2026
>still not de-esclator pilled
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>>573228503
An aquatic-themed faction after they add oceanic operations and water worlds. Really, just add aquatic troops for each faction in the game already and make water more than just a stage hazard. That all being said, AH is far too short-sighted and lazy to make any of this a reality.
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>>573228614
the sad part is it was so much fun, and the people crying about it didn't even play the game
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>>573228947
>GL with 3 pen
great crowd control weapon with some light anti-heavy capability if you know how to skip shots off the ground or if you get a specific angle on an enemy
>GL with 4 pen
absolutely brainless zero skill weapon that decimates every enemy on every front without a single thought required, just dump the belt into their faces

fun.. yeah I guess so, but at what cost? I'm sure having the liberator do 10,000 damage with 12 pen would be fun too.. for a couple of minutes and then anyone with half a brain would shake their head at it as it strips away any challenge and satisfaction and thus any appeal of further play
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d10 amny steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242166445412
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>>573229132
Trying to explain that challenge is necessary for a game to be fun to someone like that is pointless.
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>>573228720
It's a PvE game nigger, not Esport, why the fuck should I care about the feelings of the NPCs?
>>573228947
Indeed, it was powerful but not THAT powerful, still takes a full mag to down 1 war strider and you can'do much damage to super heavies like fact striders and vox engines since they're explosive resistant up to the eyeballs, can't believe they shat themselves over it when the Recoilless Rifle and Ultimatum left untouched.
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>>573229132
>dump the belt into their faces
the trade off was the ammo economy, but trannies such as yourself took the supply backpack and claimed the weapon itself was the problem
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>>573229247
inb4 he seethes and posts the overcome odds image
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Playing the game with the strongest gear is not fun. The game has gotten to the point that even on the hardest difficulty you just sleepwalk through missions. I can't imagine wanting it to be easier.
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>>573229182
3/4U
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>>573229624
anon, I....
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>>573229582
Are you masochist or something?
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>>573229182
sorry, gotta go deal with IRL stuff

back to 2/4
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>>573229247
>>573229273
taking an already great anti-chaff weapon and making it a great anti-heavy weapon as well is a dumb idea with disastrous consequences for balance. the GL didn't need a buff, it was already good at its job while still being able to be used as a flex (and I don't mean show-off I mean flexible) option against heavies if necessary. yes, balance in a PvE game matters. balance is how you maintain challenge which is how you keep people interested in playing between content drops. challenge gives people a carrot to chase in the form of dopamine when they overcome the challenge.
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>>573229782
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>>573229823
When I play the hardest difficulty in a video game, I expect it to be hard. I can't play an actually difficult version of this game because people insist that the game be easy on d10. Either that, or they play solo and insist that D10 be possible for a single player who is just kind of good at the game.
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Update today?
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>>573229923
>Seeking pain to feel pleasure
Yup that's masochism
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>>573230046
yes
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>>573230086
I do want a woman to kick me in the nuts and then laugh while I jerk off and cum on her feet, But that's unrelated to this discussion.
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I think that the grenade launcher should be AT and that he BFGL should fire ultimatum shots
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>>573230209
This would be so epic because I would kill so many enemies. Imagine killing 100 enemies with one left click. That would make me cum so hard. Let's all get together and shoot our ultimatums together and cum in each other's mouths.
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>>573230086
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>>573229864
again, it basically only gets taken on bugs, and even then it gets taken with the supply pack. Increasing the pen made it a more viable option on other fronts and didn't make it a "great anti-heavy weapon"
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Reminder all Arrowhead had to do was to tell the nerf trannies to NOT use the supply backpack with the GL if they felt the newly buffed GL are "too powerful" but instead they caved and nerf the GL instead, both the fucking devs and their players are fucking retarded
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>>573230393
People don't take any stratagems below heavy pen on the bot front because teamwork is for chumps. The idea of taking a stratagem that can't kill hulks but is good against chaff would make sense in a team game, but Helldivers 2 is a game where four people play on one map, but try to interact with each other as little as possible.
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>>573230651
there is no stratagem below heavy pen that can't kill hulks
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>>573230647
>Oh no...The mental patient won't sit down and hitting himself in the head, what should we tell him to stop, doctor?
>Nah, just amputee his arms and legs
Basically the update lol
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>>573230783
That would require you to hit their weakspot, which is only practical with teamwork. People only ever kill hulks from the front because kiting a hulk for your teammate makes you gay o algo.
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>>573230869
>which is only practical with teamwork
skill issue
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>>573230903
Krill issue.
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>>573230869
hulks turn very slowly, I can run circles around them in heavy armor. Even better if you bait them into a swipe until they dislocate their spine and just 180 on their legs
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>>573230209
Sounds based and fun, now they just need to up the enemy spawn rate by 500%
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>>573231285
People who want 500 millions enemies to spawn so they can all die to AOE damage like orbital napalm are sub-human. Go write numbers in yellow text in excel.
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>>573231375
>Erm...what do you mean you want to shoot the horde in a horde shooter game, chuddie?
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>>573231285
>NOOOO you're supposed to spend 30 minutes shooting the same enemy that walks towards you in a straight line and has two attacks!!!
>THIS GAME IS ABOUT OVERCOMING CHALLENGES
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>>573231375
I like D1 Mindless Masses because the single objective will spawn 500 voteless in 5 minutes and it's fun to try and manage it with melee and limited ammo and I think D10 should feel like that but more.
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>>573231489
1st, saying that the game SHOULD be a certain way because of it's genre is retarded.
2nd, shooting giant waves of paper-thin enemies with aoe damage is fake difficulty.
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>>573231285
>>573231489
>>573231497
I've got a game to sell to you that you people would fucking love. You press start game and then all you need to do is press a button, literally any button on your keyboard or mouse and you'll get a big "YOU WIN!" screen pop up with confetti and cheers. Sounds so fucking fun, right?
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>>573231729
dumbass, everything in the game is fake difficulty
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Does the Spear one-shot war striders?
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>>573231729
>>573231763
Explain the success of Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 then
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>>573231763
I've got a game to sell to you that you people would fucking love. You press start game and then all you need to do is press a button, literally any button on your keyboard or mouse and after 30 minutes you'll get a big "YOU LOSE!" screen pop up with discord notification sounds and HRT. Sounds so fucking fun, right?
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>>573231729
>malicious code designed to hunt you down and kill you in the most bullshit way possible is REAL difficulty actually!
bro...
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>>573231729
>>573231763
genuine question, why are you here shitting up the thread instead of playing CGW with likeminded individuals? Is it just some misplaced vendetta against 4chan, or what?
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>>573231764
If you want to be pedantic. But when I say "fake difficulty" I mean that it's not actually difficult, it just looks difficult if you aren't paying attention. Sadly, most Helldivers 2 players don't pay attention when playing the game, they smoke weed and watch youtube shorts while playing D10.

>>573231830
Left 4 Dead is way more punishing than Helldivers 2. If you run off on your own in Left 4 Dead, unless you are actually good at the game, you'll just die immediately to a special infected. Also, the special infected provide challenges that make you think differently than the common infected, but most Helldivers 2 players would be happy if the game were just like Left 4 Dead without the special infected, which is to say they want the game to be boring.

>>573231942
Okay.

>>573231984
I'm discussing the game. You aren't 4chan, you're just a nigga on 4chan. I don't have a vendetta against the platform I'm using.
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>>573231830
I've always maintained that left 4 dead and its consequences has been a disaster for the co-op shooter genre. there is no denying their success but there is also no denying that they are mechanically extremely simple, straight forward, and largely lacking challenge unless you specifically seek out extreme difficulty modes/mods. the problem is people wanting the casual shooting of L4D in its normal difficulties in the highest difficulties of helldivers
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>>573232075
>extremely simple, straight forward, and largely lacking challenge
if you think helldivers isn't this you're fucking delusional
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>>573232185
The game would be more challenging and interesting if thermite, giga-grenades, and the ultimatum weren't in it.
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>>573232382
limiting the gear available doesn't change the fact that difficulty comes from objectives and enemy design, both of which are embarrassingly one-dimensional
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>>573231779
4000 > 3500
so yes
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>>573232185
helldivers is certainly lacking challenge right now because of the endless tidal wave of whining and begging for player buffs and enemy nerfs, yes
but mechanically it is far more complex than left4 dead and you would be the delusional one if you think otherwise. left4dead doesn't have amour penetration, doesn't have ballistics, doesn't have a durable damage layer, or outside of shooting heads and the smokers tongue doesn't really even have locational damage or a limb health system. There's very little end difference between weapons, there's no need to diversify loadouts, the need for ammo management is almost non-existent as it uses pooled ammo, and resource management only extends to items, of which there is a very limited pool of. you need to make far more moment-to-moment decisions and perform more actions in helldivers than left4dead
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>>573232447
There's also resource-management and mechanical skill. Requiring players to work as a team and bring support weapons that lack in some areas but excel in others would also make the game more challenging and interesting. The objectives are very simple, and they are the weakest part of the game, but the enemies are well designed if a little straight-forward.
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>>573231729
Did you know
People die when they are killed
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>>573232721
Fun things die when people kill them.
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>>573232621
if the enemies were well designed they wouldn't need constant balance updates
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>>573232803
They usually don't need them, but they get them any way. Most of the time they just change the health or damage or something, which still maintains the basic design.
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>>573232803
Arrowhead's idea of a well-designed enemy is a floating skyscraper that can one-shot you from across the map through solid objects. Remember that the next time anyone says something in this game is well-designed.
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>>573232954
Why do you play this game if you hate it so much? Why play a game in which everything is poorly designed?
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>>573232621
It's not that kind of era anymore. Even in co-operative game people don't like being confined into specific role
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>>573233029
Thank you for admitting it's poorly designed. I think I'll ignore your strawman though
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>>573233097
The statement "Remember that the next time anyone says something in this game is well-designed." implies that nothing in the game is well-designed. If you have an argument that can disprove that idea that any given thing in the game is well-designed, then it's not possible for anything to be well-designed.
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>>573233259
>implies that nothing in the game is well-designed
it actually doesn't if you understand basic english
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>>573232621
This game doesn't have classes to pick, nor has it ever implied that players should make an effort to create their own role system. Helldivers is just not designed that way, not even since the first game, it never has been, it never will be.
The real reason this game is so easy lies with only very few select weapons and stratagems, the insane number of reinforcements allowed, and the easily cheesed nature in which enemy drops work.
>>573233097
You have definitely had breakfast this morning
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>>573226634
>>573224007
ggs
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>>573233390
The devs didn't create a strict role system, but the "emergent" role system is supposed to come from the nature of the enemies you fight. This was more strict when more enemies had tank armor instead of heavy armor. It would work better if communication were more common, but even on D10 a lot of people won't ping enemies or the map. Also, the number of reinforcements you get is clearly over tuned. It's rare for a D10 lobby to actually run out of reinforces even if players are just dicking around.
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>>573233678
How did you managed to make your webm so crisp and under 4mb?
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>>573233708
I fail to see how much increased armor would matter. 16 stratagems is a fucking lot, it's easy enough to find 4 stratagems to fulfill the needs to kill the greater threats and the lowly hordes.
The best way to create an engaging difficulty is to impose some strict limitations. Otherwise you will see everyone running an RR + ONB or similar combo. Nerf those and there'll be a second best duo, nerf those and the cycle repeats, and if you keep nerfing until there's no "do it all" loadout, the players have already left, so it's an impossible task.
I think only arbitrary and strict limitations, on a hypothetical D11 mode, would create a challenge in any way equal to a game like PD:TH's 145+, PD2's DSOD, Darktide's H40 or DRG's H5+ (those guys can fully mod the game to make their own balance and hazards too). HD2 is the easiest game out of all of these.
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I think the arsenal mod manager is a Bitcoin miner.
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>>573234367
Not many big explosions, particles or huge camera movements to destroy the bitrate. I just use WebMConverter/webmsforretards.
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>>573226634
That's even more Swede tism BF4 had that and most of that boiled down to which gun shot the fastest
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>>573234657
IDK why mine looks like pure shit quality wise, not much camera movement in the video either
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>>573234985
nta but lowering the resolution helps
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A list of possible limitations I had in mind for a daydream D11 mode, that would best match my experience with the 'maximum difficulty challenges' of other coop games I've often played.
And some of these would maybe be fun to toy with as only possible modifiers rather than inherent features.
>no duplicate stratagems (roles are now enforced? or generalist loadouts are now more varied)
>1 vehicle per diver limit
>3 stratagems per diver
>8 total reinforcements
>HSO booster disabled
>ONB has limited charges (like orbital laser)
>random selection of 25% of the stratagems of each type is disabled for each operation OR the stratagems selected in the previous operatio nare disabled until the next set of missions (forced variety?)
What would be the META to beat the hardest mission(s) with these modifiers excepting the last one?
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>>573234985
What resolution do you record at? I record at 1440p and downscale to 720. My source clips are nearly 1:1 with gameplay quality, and I think that helps when running it through an encoder even when downscaling.
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>>573234924
Not sure that's a fair comparison though since Helldivers is co-op, versus Battlefield being PVP. Plus, there's still a matter of ammo/damage fall off to balance around.
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>>573235074
>>573235230
thanks
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>>573234523
I think you can get natural roles to form just from good balance and enemies variety. If you introduce more medium enemies that are best killed with weapons like the autocannon and the hmg, then the RR would become worse because it wouldn't be able to handle their numbers. Even with the Automatons, people will use the RR to kill hulks, but it's really not the best options against them, even if it is easier to use than the AMR. If there are enough super-heavy enemies like factory striders to force the RR user to save their ammo, and/or enough hulks that the limited ammo of the RR becomes a serious problem, then it makes sense to bring a more specialized weapon to fill that gap. The game just really isn't hard enough for this be a problem, which is to say that you don't have to play very efficiently to beat D10.

Some of the stratagems and weapons would need large nerfs to make this work, though.
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>early intel reports increased presence of bile spewers/war striders
explain why some brownoid can't roll down the window and look at the AO with an aliexpress telescope before we drop
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MOSHI MOSH? WARUBONDO DESS
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>>573237021
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>>573236927
>Eagle Reconnaissance: spend x amount of req slips or samples for a chance to reveal either the enemy constellation or the location of a single side objective
Boom two problems solved. Arrowhead hire me. If customs asks I'm an albino Ethiopian with Down syndrome.
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>>573234985
lower the resolution
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>>573237021
ARUHEDETTE
SHABERUNO?
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4 MORE HOURS TILL WARBOND TRAILER AND PATCH UPDATE, TRUST THE PLAN

-Z
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>>573227517
smoke is good if you accept the fact that it is only good on the bot front and only when you want to disengage enemy fights, which only really happens when you solofag and need to run away from overwhelming enemy forces.
smoke grenades have saved my ass so many times i don't even take thermite/dynamite/giga on public bots when I solofag anymore.
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>>573238013
Putting my faith in you my brother
I will end my life if this plan does not come to fruition
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>>573234985
if you're using webmforlazys/retards, make sure you have VP9 ticked in Advanced
you can also set target FPS to 60 or 30
as for resolution, i usually do something like this:
under 10 seconds: 720p
10-25 seconds: 540/560p
25+: 480p
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They ran outta warbonds its over
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>I am not taking any AT, easiest faction, someone else will take it
Then all it takes is 3 harvesters and suddenly pubbie D10 squids turns into a death loop.
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>>573238189
Got my trident
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>>573238119
THIS TIME FOR SURE, JUST TRUST THE PLAN BRO, THE WEST WILL FALL IN 2 WEEKS, THE MULTI POLAR WORLD IS WITHIN OUR REACH!

-Z
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>>573224926
>bugdiver posts get 1984'd quick
>random furshit gets to stay up for hours
what did the jannies mean by this
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>>573238487
>>573238013
>day 46 of the special warbond operation
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>>573238495
the difference is that the bugdiver post was made by someone who's permabanned from the board and currently ban evading
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there is no reason to get excited for the 40k slophammer slopbond
it will be full of shit armors and shit weapons just like the other 2 collab warbonds
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>>573238786
but my meltagun...
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>>573238040
Yeah, that's the whole problem, isn't it? Only against this one faction and only when playing the game explicitly in a way it wasn't balanced to be played, can this one mechanic be useful.

The exosuits were also only ever good against bugs and sometimes squids, and only really shined when you took them onto Hive Worlds where the extra survivability and firepower were godly inside the caves. That still didn't stop Arrowhead from finally buffing them so they would stop being outright liabilities on the bot front.
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>>573238943
exosuits were usable on bots before the buffs
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>>573238943
>Yeah, that's the whole problem, isn't it?
true, but like, not even reddit dadgamers and discordtroons ever talk about smoke, it is burried so deep down "nobody gives a fuck" hole that nobody ever discusses about them in either good or bad way.
So we just gotta make do with the fact that they are only usable on the bot front...
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>>573239019
bait
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>>573239141
they were pretty good when the bots were the ultralethal stealth faction
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>play bots
>bring the HMG
>warstrider and berserker seed so I get ragdolled whenever I try to use it
>play ICBM mission
>pick splash damage weapons because 95% of the time it's bile spewers
>it's a hunter seed with shit tons of fog
>play nuke nursery mission in a megacity
>pick the liberator carbine, epoch, and supply pack because 95% of the time it's hunters and pouncers
>500 alpha commander seed instead (would have been fun if I had brought the MG instead of the epoch)
>play oil extraction mission
>pick splash damage weapons because 95% of the time it's bile spewers
>it's hunters with shit tons of fog (again)
please arrowhead I want to break off of generalist loadouts, just show me the seed/constellation
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>>573238274
If it looks like a bad situation I simply run someplace else
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>>573239162
i mean, what's your argument that they were unusable?
you could rocket the cannon towers before they got a shot off
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>>573239224
its lib carb and recoiless for me dawg every time on a bug mission, I just can't be bothered anymore
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>>573239162
>me when i form my opinion based on what other people are saying instead of my own experiences
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>>573239224
>bringing HMG into warstrider seed
>bringing the HMG at all
I've learned my lesson desu. HMG is a dogshit weapon with no place in the current state of the game. it's always a coin flip against you.
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>>573239862
HMG buffs tomorrow trvzt
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>>573239642
>bro look at me waste 90% of my limited premium ammunition (rockets) on a bunch of chaff while praying the nearby cannon tower won't 1 tap my mech
you sure showed me
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>>573239642
this is literally the single most ideal and perfect scenario for a mech in a bot mission ever
there was the lowest possible amount of dropships
they did not drop a single hulk
they did not drop a single war strider
they did not drop a single factory strider
all of the bots were dropped in a small circle surrounded by walls to cover you
there was no cannon turret to snipe you
siege mechs didnt exist yet
this is a normal scenario and you know it
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>>573239924
WAIT today
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>>573240031
this is not* a normal scenario
a normal scenario would be dropping your mech at a quiet spawn, trying to approach an outpost, and getting sniped by a variety of bots before approaching because there's no reliable cover in most biomes
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>>573240049
big if true
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>>573240031
they did in fact dropped 1 (UNO) hulk
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>>573239939
>>573240031
It's just Niggerah farming for (You)s again, don't give that discord tranny attention whore a single drop of attention
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>>573239642
Why are you spamming your rockets into a bunch of chaff and not save it for the heavies you dumb retard? The minigun can easily handle them
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>>573239939
not the point.
it got the job done.
sure calling a single EAS would have accomplished the same but the claim was that mechs were unusable before the buffs.
which is simply not true
>>573240031
>they did not drop a single hulk
false, two hulks were dropped. this just tells me you didn't watch the webm.
>they did not drop a single war strider
they didnt exist back in 2025 may
>there was no cannon turret to snipe you
my teammates and i blew them up, because i'm not a retard who calls in a mecha with active cannon towers
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>>573240312
i used a single rocket against a group of rocket devs at the start, all other rockets were fired at the hulks.
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>>573240398
>not the point
moving the goalpost already?
>it got the job done
>"OMFG, YOU PULL THE TRIGGER AND THE TARGETS DIES???!!! SEE THIS IS 10000% USABLE"
c'mon bro
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>>573240645
you moved the goalpost, and are now projecting.
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>>573240645
I hope youre a newfag
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>want to play helldivers 2
>launch the game
>realise I have to actually play helldivers 2
>close the game
How do I beat this cycle?
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>>573240824
play eroges
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My autism taught me
>quit to main menu
>then close game
But HD2 doesnt let me do that
And it hurts every time having to close the game while im standing in the ship
Might as well unplug my shit
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>>573239572
>lib carb
Computer, generate a 500 bile spewer mission, atmospheric spores mission modifier, very uneven terrain so the bile spewers' mouths clip into the ground when they do their bile bombardment jack-o-pose.
joking aside, as I love the liberator and liberator carbine, I've gradually just gotten a few jack of all trades loadouts I always go with. I almost always run the recoilless rifle on the bot front thanks to war striders. It's very ironic that arrowhead bemoans metas then makes design decisions that actively encourage generalist metas.
>>573239862
>bringing the HMG at all
once upon a time I swear the HMG was actually somewhat alright. I used to love it against swarms of standard devastators and rocket devastators. Granted, it gradually fell off once you get to the difficulties where heavy devastators are the most common bot unit but you could take out entire swarms of hulks relatively quickly if you went prone. I think it's yet another victim to the explosive meta where anything that isn't anti-tank is at a heavy disadvantage. A dude with an HMG is almost always going to be less useful than even a dude with a recoilless rifle that can't hit anything over 100 meters away. Same with stuff like the AMR or the railgun. War striders sort of shat on anything that wasn't the in the explosive anti-tank category such as the recoilless rifle, expendable anti-tank, or the quasar. If you bring the recoilless rifle to every bot mission you'll have smooth sailing.
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>he needs the RR on bots
pleb
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>all that just to bully a small group of chaff + 2 heavies which can be done by 1 guy with single dynamite
lmao, there goes the majority of the ammo for your totally usable mech, the mechs still struggle on bot but at least they won't die to a single cannon tower shot from 9000m away now, which is way better than before, blowing up a leg won't insta kill it too
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>>573241463
you are angry at a video on a peruvian grain pellet production forum
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>>573241606
Yes and I'm 100% correct too and totally humiliated and destroyed your retarded contrarian cope with rational facts and logic, of which is now I am now willing to accept your concession
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>post retarded opinion
>why is everyone mad?
go back to your discord, tranny
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>mindless masses if it actually had more than 10 enemies on the screen at once
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>>573241983
didn't know everyone was 1 guy
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>>573242137
nta but you're retarded lmao, try to hide your power level next time
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>>573242238
what are you talking about
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>>573242316
exactly
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PATCH IN 1 HOUR, SHOW ME YOUR FUCKING WAR FACE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>573216934
It's going to be shit.
At best it'll be a slightly weaker DCS that sets stuff on fire.
Which is retardedly weak considering the DCS is meant to one shot most enemies already, so fire does next to nothing.
And at worst it won't even one shot and you'll have to wait for the fire to kill whatever you shot.
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>chain-arcs to you 60 meters away because there was a scavanger between you and the tower
how do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>573242462
AAAAAAHHHH
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>>573242479
DCS is already a bottom tier gun, so i hope you're wrong
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>>573242462
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>>573242462
NYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH~
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>>573242673
gay
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>>573242462
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>>573242534
It will be coyote all over again.
Retards that can't aim get alot out of it and think it's the best thing ever. And anyone that can click heads quickly realizes it's just a worse version of an existing gun (lib pen, DCS).
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>>573242462
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>>573242462
myamyaMYAMYAMYAMYAAA
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>>573242462
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>573242462
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>>573242874
You think he remarried
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>>573242462
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>>573242462
.
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What patch? Did devs even confirmed it?
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>>573242462
HOPECHAD ASSEMBLE
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>>573243060
no, this thread is running on pure A grade colombian hopium and we about to overdose on it
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>>573243060
theres no patch.
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>>573242941
he fucking died.
nobody escapes the average 6 minute helldiver lifespan.
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DoomGODS arise
There is no patch
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>Enslaving the Cyborgs
>killing off 98% of the Squids' population
>putting the Bugs in farms
>making the TCS
>turning Meridia into a black hole
>making a planet killer
>using said planet killer
>unjustly invading Cyberstan
>putting the old and disabled into meat grinders
>making Helldivers sign a VERY questionable contract
>making a planet-wide concentration camp for "dissidents"
>sending helldivers who fail missions into concentration camps
>using a rigid class structure
>getting bribed by mega-corps
>using some form of AI to vote instead of letting people pick for themselves
>making kids to do their dirty work
but supa earth are totally le good guise.
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>>573243301
>DoomGODS arise
We never fucking left.
We OWN this general.
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>>573243183
>>573243242
Today is "next week", typical patch day too, the update WILL drop today
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>>573243418
they are announcing the hot fix today, it will be coming on the 14th
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>>573243418
mein führer, ze "more info to be shared"...
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>>573243418
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>>573243356
Yeah we aint pretty but compared to literal monsters and metal skeletons with chainsaws for hands id say we aint so bad
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>>573243356
>putting the old and disabled into meat grinders
Source?
Genuinely don't know this bit of lore.
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>>573243501
>>573243498
NO! T-they will share us the info ALONGSIDE the update, j-just trust the f-fucking PLAN!!!!
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>>573242462
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>>573243598
They at least ask you for permission
Not a bad deal
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>>573243356
Yes, we are the good guys.
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>>573243356
>You can only be ontologically good or evil with nothing in between as if all of reality was a SatAM cartoon or my literal Care Bear world will shatter
Childish
Anyways
We're the lesser of four evils
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>>573243598
ship broadcasts
>Too old to be productive? Consider volunteering for an early trip to the bio-repurposer vats!
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>>573243879
oh..... so that's what it meant.......
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so have they fixed the slugger yet?
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posting about le good guys le bad guys is a self report that the game's entire narrative went completely over your head
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>>573244178
Its called the JAR-5 now.
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All good guys have big robot suits
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>>573244184
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I'm actually the only one here who truly understands this game's narrative. I could explain it, but I don't think I will.
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Aaaaaand it's fucking nothing
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I don't care about the game's narrative.
All I know is that I am cannon fodder and I must kill.
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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/696516748689543612
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>>573221454
>Adjudicator
Honestly I consider this rifle to be among the worst guns in the game. Possibly top 3. Even after the buffs and the mods system. Such a huge disappointment. Oh well, at least it's ugly so no huge loss there.
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>>573244523
It is something I guess?
Hopesissy victory?
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>bug fixes
Hopefully pubs stop crashing my game 30 seconds in by simply joining
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>>573244523
>>573244597
DOOMGODS WIN AGAIN
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>>573242462
Where is it
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>>573244597
>FRV pattern crash fixed
Glad to know that all of us were not going shizo and that was the thing that actually made us crash.
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lobby doko?
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>Fixed a crash which reliably occurred when the number of unique vehicle patterns in a lobby exceeded 32

So it wasn't just the FRV skins, it was all vehicle skins. Swedes never cease to amaze with their incompetence and shortsightedness.
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>filler MO
>no content
>barely a hotfix update
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I should drop this fuckass game and finally start playing Cyberpunk 2077.
Good or bad idea?
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>>573245341
Very fun game
Go full hacks and make dudes commit suicide
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>>573243356
>humans le bad
sure, but it's not evil for the sake of evil
>farming bugs
I don't think the bugs are necessarily evil the same way I don't think a hornets nest is evil, but if one sets up in my shed, I'm going to exterminate it.
However if it turns out that the hive produces fuel for my car, I'd probably try to domesticate them too.
>unjustly invading Cyberstan
First GW? 50/50. Cyborgs were originally allowed to secede from SE but the planet was still SE territory, meaning they could go and live anywhere else. They said nah, since they were modified specifically for Cyberstan so SE went to take it by force.
GW2
Yeah making the automatons and taking over 20 planets 100 years later because they lost so bad the first time is on them.
>Illuminate
Yeah that's on us.
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>>573244653
>>573244482
warbond trailers don't release until 4 to 5 hours after patch time
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>>573245365
>dudes
that would be xey/xeh/xem/xudes saaaar
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>>573245341
good idea, but dont do this >>573245365 combat with hacks is actually really fucking boring.
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>>573245705
The beauty of 2077 is that india doesnt exist on the internet anymore and they kept to themselves
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>>573245945
India will be superpower by 2077 you just fucking watch you benchod
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Can we stop LARPing as indians?
I genuinly think there are none in this general and the only indian who I personally knew who played hd2 stopped after a few hours because D4 was too hard for him.
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Is this the most cringe armor in the game?
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>>573247091
I only learn of indian stuff through this general its a fucking nightmare
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>>573247112
No because the stealth armor that comes with the default bond will always hold that title. Unflinching is also a based passive, though its better on the bloodhound armor.
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>>573247112
no one wears the full set, only some parts of it are used on other armors
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>>573247156
I once asked my indian coworker about "izzat" and he was puzzled at wtf am I talking about.
Not even all indians are aware of the "indian" stuff we talk about here.

>>573247112
I think it is pretty cool but yeah that armor bad reputation thanks to epic redditors and having armor rating of 75 just puts it at an awkward non-breakpoint point that doesn't matter so you might as well just use any other armor rating 50 armor. Even scout armor would be better.
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In just two and a half weeks we will have broken the record for the longest gap between slopbonds in the game's lifespan.
EOS cannot come soon enough.
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>>573247498
wowsers, good thing the trailer's today then
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>>573247759
*thrashes around in his strait jacket*
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>>573247759
>good thing the trailer's today then
stop the cope and get the rope hopesissy...
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>>573247112
meow
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>>573247112
It honestly looks better like this.
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DOOMBULLS how we feeling?
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>>573247962
soulless coomer garbage

>>573248116
LORE ACCURATE SOVL
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>>573248360
I feel good, already got 2 hopesissies in my DMs on discord begging for my cock
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>>573248116
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I can't wait for all the doomtrannies to hang themselves once the warbond trailer dropped in a few hours
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oh no no no
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>>573248762
I'm already hung ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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>>573248116
more like food inspector
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>>573248804
this feels wildly inappropriate.
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>>573248804
He's obviously being ironic, the warbond trailer will drop today
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>>573248762
PLEASE prove me wrong
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They should give us a [?] Stratagem and it could be anything from a hot dog to a 380MM barrage
No way of telling until it hits
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>>573248804
hopesissiess...
our response?
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>>573248804
WARBOND TODAY WARBOND TODAY
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Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
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I want to rape bugs.
In a sexual way.
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>niggas itt thought the crash was random based on some swedish aids with leftover files from whatever
>its just an integer overflow for the vehicle skin array
it does not matter how many times i think theres no new low for arrowhead, there always is.
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>>573249356
claude would have caught this bug
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>>573249356
Why even limit the vehicle skin array in the first place to such a low numer?
We are not working with limitations of 128MB RAM anymore, but considering all that file bloat we had because they were designing for loading on HDD drives, there is no limit to Swede surprises I guess.
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>>573249496
do i even need to say it?
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Swedes havent discovered the secret coconut.jpg that holds a whole game together
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>>573249660
mounds or almond joy?
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>>573242462
>actually real
so what are the chances we are getting a new warbond this month
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>>573249706
Almond Joy
I save the almond for last and let it roll around my mouth then smash it with my molars
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>>573249496
>>573249356
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>>573249757
>getting a new warbond this month
>this month
100%. if the FRV bond actually came out at the statistically most likely time on june 9th, 6 weeks after that for the next warbond (the one we're getting instead) would be july 21st
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>>573249950
Realistically it should've been the 4th of july.
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>>573249849
I'm sorry, it appears we can't be friends
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>>573250242
molarlet
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>>573250789
spellinglet
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>>573250821
letlet
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>>573250789
>mortarlet
ur not welcome in my bricks mission!!!11
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>>573250789
>>573250821
>>573250902
>>573250926
all of you are lobbylets and you should be ashamed of yourselves!
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>>573250926
>>573251059
:^(
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Lobbyletism should be diagnosed as a proper disability and government should pay me welfare for it!
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Everyone in my lobby must fully pass 5 rounds of Stratagem Hero without fail
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Another nothing burger patch. But this time its "stylish"
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>>573251315
I play clone hero, does that count?
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>>573251315
I have carpal tunnel, can I skip?
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The game looks so bad now, it's a blurry mess DLSS or no DLSS it's just bad. You should feel bad for playing this.
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>>573252424
Grunt Fantasy
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>>573252424
The game looks amazing on 4k max settings, just stop being poor bro
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>>573252424
I have bad eyes so no amount of graphics can help me
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LADY LIBERTY'S GOT BALLS
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It's like if /g/ designed a game and they never fixed anything as it all just started slowly eating itself.

It's one patch away from completely killing their own servers. Mark my words.
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>super citizen is the shittiest member of the team
Why won't it stop happening bros
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Diver fucking up breakfast be like "sweet liberty my egg!"
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>>573253280
it's a paypiggy title that you get access to from lv1
a non-newfag would've picked any of the better gorillion titles available but a newfag has like three and super citizen oozes """"aura"""" for them
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Yo mama so fat her hellpod is classified as a mini nuke
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Yo mama so fat.. the charger bumped into her and stopped running!!!! xD
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>>573249492
it's depressing that a vibecoder could probably make a more stable and consistent product than Swedish devs
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Yo mama so fat she died
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Yo mama so fat it takes two jumps for her to change systems
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Yo mama so fat the orbital railcannon shot at her instead of the hivelord
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58 more minutes
trust the plan
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>/hilarious dudes general/
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Yo mama so fat a second pelican had to come to pick her up after the mission
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There's nothing coming...
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Yo mama so ugly that bug holes close themselves
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>>573254015
i'm coming inside ur asshole
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Yo mama so fat Arrowhead had to strap 2 maxiguns together so she can use it as a Jump pack
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Coffee breath spit swapping with hdg's beautiful queen
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>>573252814
wtf I love "lady" liberty now??
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yo mama so fat she makes the frv's weight realistic
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Yo mama so retarded Alexus had to buff the weapons she nerf
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Yo mama so fat she needs 2 stamina boosters
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Yo mama so nasty she goes by baskinator
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Yo mama so fat they had to call Nixxes to downsize her
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yo mama so fat when she goes prone she gets mistaken for a bile spewer
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Yo mama so fat than when she dies she leaves an invisible hitbox
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>>573254147
I would rather fuck a bug than that "thing"
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Oh yeah? Well yo mama can't cook or clean
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yo mama so fat when she tried to enlist the recruitment officer said "sorry, youre too heavy"
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yo mama so fat pierce brosnan told her damn bitch you fat
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yo mama so fat she needs a dark fluid backpack to vault over obstacles
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yo mama so fat she needs multiple patches to nerf her
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Yo mama so fat the Hivelord got diabetes after eating her
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Yo mama so.. hmm.. uhm.. huh..
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return to /coopg/
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yo mama so fat she can't even make a lobby doko
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Yo mama so fat she triggers anti tank mines
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yo mama pronounces it "oshawn"
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>>573254348
Okay that's a good one.
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yo momma so sexy I will take her out on a date and have a mutually beneficial relationship with her :)
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>>573254725
kek
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Yo mama so fat the cyborgs had to put her augmented body into a Siege Mech instead of a Vox Engine
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Yo mama so fat the cyborgs tries to built mega factories on her body
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>thread
sometimes you fags are alright
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>>573227517
I think the real issue with gas and smokes is that host get massive priority in enemy behavior. It's why stealth is easy when you're not the host. On the flip side, it's also what makes smokes and gas such a crap shoot. If you're the host, gas works properly most of the time. If you're not, who knows? Depends if the enemy's logic supersedes yours.

I still think this game makes a fun stealth experience (even if unintended) but they could certainly improve it. I think the first major step i'd want is "smokes don't draw attention." No different than suppressors on release. It's fucking stupid that dropping smokes to conceal yourself doesn't matter when the enemies just go "I heard a loud boom. I'll walk into the smoke cloud and find you perfectly." This is also a major problem with patrols programmed to do so.

>This is peak illuminate + bot gaming for me
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yo mama so fat her armor rating is 300 with 90% explosive resist and rock-solid passive
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>>573255085
what is wrong with that eagle icon
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>>573255294
mod tranny cheats
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Yo mama so fat she ate the first 23 pandions
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>>573255085
yo momma so fat she gets host priority in all lobbies
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>>573255085
I really want a lobby where host takes a role of solofag but not really and just baits and kites enemies forever to keep the spawn limit the entire time while 3 other teammates speedrun objectives.
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>>573255294
>Bit Better UI
It changes all the stratagem icons. I like the detailed eagle + direction setting.

>SIERRA FOXTROT - Tactical Helldivers Collection
is the armor.

Modding opens a whole new dimension to this game. Sadly, your mods will break at the start of every major update and you'll have to wait for the author to update if they ever do.

>>573255707
lol
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>>573255837
the gayest post in the history of hdg
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>>573227517
just increase all smoke sizes by 400%
maybe reduce cooldown by 33% on orbital and double base payload amount on eagle
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>>573255085
1000 hours in and I still don't understand how smoke works in this game
Do you throw them at the enemies, in-between, or at your feet
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Yo mama's like Super Earth, the way thousands of dudes orbit around her
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Yo mama so fat her teammates had to use the Bastion tank cannon to flip her over
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>>573256007
tl;dr smoke as solid cover for attacks that require a line of sight (miniguns of factory strider, cannon towers) and an accuracy debuff if thrown between you and the enemy
enemies will always fire at maximum spread through smoke
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>>573256136
So, how do you break enemy LoS? Hulk still chases you for example
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>>573256240
if you throw smoke at the enemy it won't instantly disaggro and rather will just go the last place its seen you
if the enemy is able to reestablish los it'll just keep on following
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The absolute best way to test smoke is dropping in a Rapid Acquisition mission, the bots would literally stop shooting as they walks around doing nothing to you
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>shitter spams smoke on the middle of the RA arena
>enemies just walk up to him and gun him down
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>>573256240
it does not "chase" you, it just go towards the direction where it has last seen you and 99% of players continue walking in the same direction and then cry that "omg enemies see through smoke".
Once it is inside the smoke or walks through the smoke it sees you again and then continues following you.
It does not apply confusion or panic, it basically applies "helldiver was last seen in this position, go fucking him up like he is still here!"

Which is also why you will see people cry that smokes don't affect bugs - they go to the smoke and their line of sight is not broken anymore, they see you again and continue their quest to rape you.
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>>573256546
there is some urban legend that if a cyborg uses a smoke grenade then all nearby smokes also stop working but I never bothered to test it.

tho it makes sense that narrowhead would just disable smoke effect for enemies altogether while cyborg smoke is active because they couldn't think of something else lol
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>>573256705
>there is some urban legend that if a cyborg uses a smoke grenade then all nearby smokes also stop working
this is bs
smoke has no affiliation which is why the titty plant smoke also works on enemies
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>>573256007
Ideally, you throw it in the direction you're moving so it goes off and you run through it. But, enemies seem to have a "last known" location setting. So if you just run in a straight line, they'll seem like they're following you since they're just doing what they saw you do last.

Sadly, if you're in an open field, that means you're going to need multiple smokes for them to full disengage. If you're in a city map, that shit is easy. Throw a smoke, turn two corners, and the enemy is lost.

>>573256546
>I smoke a location
>Retards can't stop shooting to not draw enemy aggro
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>>573256546
smoke on raped acquisition was one of the biggest psyops in this game's history
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five more mins!!!!!
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Smoke grenade is invalidated by porta-porty shield anyway
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>>573257062
I forgot this mission type exists because I'd rather do anything else than play it.

>Try to deposit 30 silver bars
>Uses both hands
>Makes you walk slow as shit
>Bots spam a gajillion explosions
>Ragdoll
>Die
>Ragdoll
>Die
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>>573257272
until what?
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>>573257474
salvation
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HOPECHAD GIVE ME YOUR ENERGY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>573257062
I mean when it was added it worked pretty well in pubs but sometimes it just decided to...not work, swedecode probably and then it was a bigger shitshow. Also war striders have a tendency to just lol lmao and spam nades anyway.
Doesn't help that suddenly everyone jumped on the bandwagon and half the strats were smoke so the bots kept accumulating
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>>573257441
ummmm saaaaaar
your minefield stratagems?!?!?!?
on a mission where enemies come from predictable locations???!?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMczkV5U3Lk
IT'S OUT
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your mother showed me her broadside HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhaha
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>no trailer
DOOMGODS RAPE THIS GENERAL

TOTAL ANNIHILATION OF HOPESISSY NU-VAGINAS
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>>573248804
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hope chuds lost yet again dead game dead general return to /coopg/
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There is still thursday
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>>573257850
hd2 isn't even a coop game tho
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>more than a month to kit bash another FRV
bravo arrowhead
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>>573248804
Lol meanwhile arguing with any narrowhead defender "VGH YOU'RE SO UNGRATEFUL YOU'RE LITERALLY MAKING THEM WORK"
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>>573248992
where is the fucking trailer dipshit you said they were being ironic
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>>573248804
>Swedes being incapable of reading the room
Another reminder they do not take this game nearly as seriously as you. This was meant to be a funny media literacy game that fizzled out to a peak daily count of 1.5k where everyone dies nonstop and coom themselves over how media literate they are.
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>three months without new content
actual dead game nuke sweden
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wow what a fag
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>>573258885
reminder that they hate you
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Buff status?
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>Arrowhead when players with 500 hours no longer die to a single hulk
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>>573258885
>>573259163
Swedish arroogance
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>>573258885
>Be me
>Hate Warhammer
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>it's another solocuck hogging the resupply on CD for the entire match episode
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patch??
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>>573260048
real solofags never need to use the resupply.
you have my permission to rape him.
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>>573258885
email@NOREPLY
Greetings consumer units! Deploying [CORPORATE RESPONSE TO END USER OUTRAGE #37].
We hope that you are having a great day consuming #PRODUCT#.
Yours truly, corporate chat bot.
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>>573258885
I don't get it, warbond today yay or nay
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>>573260295
>hopesissy still hopeful
looks like you need a good dicking from a DOOMGOD
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>>573260295
Nay. At most, you'll get a trailer with a release date.
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What am I in for?
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>>573260367
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>>573260525
>YOU HAVE BEEN KICKED FROM THE GAME
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>>573260525
Congratulations, your infinite ammo dog will no longer kill you, unfortunately your teammates will die around 5 to 10 times more because of it, play solo or get kicked and play solo.
You think you will be smart and deactivate it near the team, tough shit it will snipe divers from a 100m but no enemies strangely enough.
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>>573260679
Only acceptable reaction. I don't want to have eyes on my back incase the retard gets near me
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Armors made to resist a specific damage type should be buffed to resist 100% of said type of damage respectively, excluding armors that resist multiple types.
>fire armor actually makes you immune to fire
>gas armor actually makes you immune to gas
>arc armor actually makes you immune to arc
I see no strong downsides to this suggestion, considering how powerful some of the other armor passive's are.
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Woah its fucking nothing
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>>573260841
>your infinite ammo dog will no longer kill you,
It still can.
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imagine if they reduced the ergo penalty faggotry by 50% so you could actually enjoy using most of the weapons in the game
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>>573261840
I like using weapons with low ergonomics.
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Say goodbye.
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>>573261840
>imagine if they reduced the ergo penalty faggotry by 50% so you could actually enjoy using most of the weapons in the game
>im-fucking-plying most weapons have noticeably bad ergonomics
you are a baby if you think this
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I wish we had a stealth field backpack to make stealth actually viable on all missions instead of a shitty larp
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too bad nobody asked, tr*nime troon
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>>573261180
desu I think the mostly-but-not-total damage resistance is fine, but they definitely should have an extra bonus or something.
Like Inflammable should also increase your burn threshold so you don't instantly turn into a pyre from a single stray spark.
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>>573261840
>imagine if they just reduced ammo capacity
>why won't they just reduce the recoil
>omg bro the damage on some of these guns
just work around it you big baby
you can build most weapons to not even need the PP crutch
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>>573262545
>stealth
have you tried playing the game
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>>573243356
And worst of all they are race mixers. Fucking disgusting.
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>>573262762
Yes. And I want variety.
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>>573261730
Damn it's even shittier.
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>>573262880
Its rare but it can happen.
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>>573262762
Kill all stealth trannies
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>>573262857
Try using AT mines and the de-escalator
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>>573262545
You're talking about cloaking dummy.
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>>573263010
I want to clear camps without alerting a single enemy and make it engaging and fun. You're just suggesting shooting an enemy but this time with electricity.
>>573263030
Yes.
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>>573262753
>>573262221
now imagine if you didn't have to live with this retarded coping system
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Good morning saars I love my mechs. Lumberer is good, but Breakthrough is best.
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60 Day Patch 3 in two months, trvst ze plan
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>>573263115
stealth will never be properly implemented and will remain a meme and gimmicky like melee, im trying to cut your losses here anon-chama
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>>573262753
>>573262221
>>573261896
Stockholm syndrome is alive and well I see
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>>573262762
Seriously, what the fuck is the appeal lol
It's primitive as fuck in this game, bots are half blind and stand in place in outposts without even patrolling them. And stealthtroons all have to use the same fucking DMR at all times because it one shots them
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>>573263862
find an actual issue to complain about
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>>573261840
1500h and I don't even pay attention to the ergo on any weapon, I just fucking shoot man
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Desert Stormer passive should've reduced the stamina debuff of intense heat and vision and walking speed debuffs of sandstorms instead of having two completely random effects slapped together. More armors should protect against the environment in ways that aren't just damage type reductions desu.
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>>573264170
>Arrowhead does this
>everyone starts complaining about an "armor tax"
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>>573263862
I enjoy playing the game. Play a different game if you don't like the basic mechanics of Helldivers 2.
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>>573264638
blast status?
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>>573263120
>>573263862
again it must be pointed out he didn't say he wished weapons with bad ergonomics were 50% better, he said he wished all weapons had 50% better ergonomics across the board so MOST OF THEM wouldn't feel like shit. which is another way of saying he thinks that most weapons in the game have bad ergonomics. so I ask you: do you seriously believe most weapons in the game have bad ergonomics?
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>>573264170
Intense heat has a stamina debuff? Is that why lava worlds feel bad
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>>573264702
>so I ask you: do you seriously believe most weapons in the game have bad ergonomics?
there are like four primaries and two support weapons where lower ergo is noticeable
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>>573264170
>find an actual issue to complain about
>1500h and I don't even pay attention to the effects on any planet, I just fucking run man
>just work around it you big baby you can run most armors and not even need the passive crutch
>I like using armors with no/shit effects
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>>573264170
it's kinda weird they didn't bring back all-terrain boots in some form considering it was basically necessary in the first game
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>>573264770
Anon, I...
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>>573264702
Most of them feel like shit to whip around and shoot with so that's a definitive "yes" from my end. Especially Support Weapons.
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>>573264920
>muscle enhancement
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Did Eravin dieded?
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>>573264961
thank you I was being facetious
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>>573265024
Robutt crushed his still with her ass
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>>573261180
>>fire armor actually makes you immune to fire
>>gas armor actually makes you immune to gas
>>arc armor actually makes you immune to arc

Nah, that would be stupid OP. They can raise to like 90% but never 100%.
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>>573262596
>>573262545
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>>573265105
skull*
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>>573264950
>Most of them feel like shit to whip around and shoot with so that's a definitive "yes" from my end.
out of the 50 primaries and 33 support weapons which ones feel like shit? let's hear them
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>>573262545
I wish burnice would bounce on my cock
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>>573264170
desu if they did that, you'd have a huge chunk of people complaining that the game is "impossible" now because they NEED medic/democracy protects/siege ready armour but the game is FORCING them to use desert/winter armour.


On the other hand, Arrowhead would probably triple the strength of those biome effects to "encourage" the use of said armour.
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>>573262762
Have you tried not shooting everything you see and causing more enemies to spawn than necessary?
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>Better Aim Reticles
>no capes
>fog removal
>reshade
>heavy units remastered
>chaff units remastered
>HD1 Reinforcement Calls
>abdomera
>Railgun Max charge warning sound
>P-4 Senator with Iron Sights
>PLAS-45 EPOCH Max charge warning sound
>No Muzzle Flash Smoke
>No Vision Blur on Maxigun and Alternate Muzzle Flash
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>>573265024
probably decided to abandon his old persona due to the helldivers shit and all of the gay porn
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yikes
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And don't forget the worst offense of them all.
>tranime of any kind
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>Limited to 32.
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>>573265716
first time this forced meme has been funny congrats
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>>573265607
Cheaters are actual subhumans.
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>>573265395
much to the dismay of the swiggers and stealthtroons this is a horde shooter.
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>>573265853
good bait
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>>573265607
What's wrong with better aim reticles?
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>>573262545
I wish I could bounce on Burnice's cock.
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>>573265607
>all these crutches
>abdomera
fucking zozzle
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>>573265881
not even in left4dead did you shoot every single infected you saw
not to mention the witch
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>>573265983
>what's wrong with murder, pillaging and of course rape
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>>573265607
the only mods I use are BFA, Helldiverized Armor, and one that makes frags/shrapnel look better.
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>>573266081
great film, right up there with the lighthouse
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>>573266154
bfa works with helldiverized?
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>>573266245
the latter is just a LUT swap so I don't see the reason why not
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>>573265881
Saying that the game SHOULD be a certain way because of it's genre is retarded. "Horde Shooter" is just a description of the game, trying to mold the game to fit it's description is completely backwards. If the game stops feeling like a horde shooter, that's a failure with applying the term and not the game's design. Either way, horde shooters need something other than holding down left-click in order to be interesting.
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>>573266154
>one that makes frags/shrapnel look better.
lmao pussy
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Do you ever think about the circa 1 billion indians that yet have to be online?
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>>573266517
This thread is constantly thinking about Indians.
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>>573265395
>not attacking every patrol like a retard, waiting a moment behind a rock so that it can pass by
based!
>crawling around an outpost like a worm in crutch stealth armor with crutch stealth DMR firing at still devastators
AIDS
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>>573266614
truthnuke
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>>573266136
Well, a lot is wrong with that. That's why I'm playing in a virtual video game than doing those in real life.
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>>573265607
>>abdomera

>Curvy Seers
>Bile Titan Titties
>Horny Diver moans
>Soft Dom Eagle one
>Mommy democracy officer and mission control

I tried Goon maxing once. Was fun for a while.
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troon brained son or indian brained daughter
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>>573265607
>>Better Aim Reticles
>>fog removal
>>reshade
>>heavy units remastered
>>chaff units remastered
>>abdomera
>>Railgun Max charge warning sound
>>P-4 Senator with Iron Sights
>>PLAS-45 EPOCH Max charge warning sound
>>No Muzzle Flash Smoke
>>No Vision Blur on Maxigun and Alternate Muzzle Flash
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I am confident in my abilty to stop any time I wish
I just don't feel like it
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You know those new temperature forest biomes for the bugs and squids? Yea well, you get one less as Sangis is getting squiggered. Get fucked. You lose izzat.
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>>573265973
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>>573266517
99% of those are the lowest cast that don't even have access to electricity
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>>573266517
To often.
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>>573266517
yes and we truly are fucked if the world does not cut off the entirety of the indian sub-continent not just from the internet but the worlds telecommunication network in its entirety
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>>573267527
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Next warbond is Saar Sliders
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>>573266517
Just like with China, those offline billions are pretty much very poor medieval peasants who don't even have access to running water, let alone electricity. And due to cultural reasons (low caste or suppressed racial minority), they will probably never get close to touching the Internet.
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>>573269008
>Booster: Increases sliding speed by 300%
>Armour passive: Increases sliding distance by 1000% (Stacks with the booster)
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>console peons and indian AH dickriders crying about modding again
Never give up your God given right to save YOUR games from the game dev's incompetence
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You thought AP4 Hive Guards were bad? This nigga would cause a singularity in every bugdiver
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*coof* warbond doko *coof* content doko *wheez*
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>>573269269
>strafes to the left
woooow
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>>573269269
Last time I played was hive scum didn't they add a regular cultist/scav dude with a shield
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>>573269375
Doesnt play the game award
Darktide enemies actually properly track you and dont stand completely still
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>>573269461
>presses dodge when the loud PRESS DODGE sound plays
woooooow
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>>573269269
>Krak out!
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>>573269570
>Making up a scenario where the bulwark is behind you and presenting a complete non-argument
Doesnt play the game award.
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Guys, we're not getting the marksman rifle, are we?
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>>573269461
tracking is artificial difficulty tho innit
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>>573269410
The new vanguard units in Shopclick are lame. Their shields block fuck all but they have several thousand HP and head hitboxes that take 50% reduced damage for some reason. There's no finesse tomorrow playing around them. You just spend forever chewing through their hp.
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>>573269269
You fuckers made me cave in and buy Dorktide.
Good game.Havoc 20 kicks my ass.
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>bugdivers trying to act like they would be able to handle bulwarks when they couldnt even handle an enemy that moves at the pace of a slug and stands completely still
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>>573269202
What a retarded drawing. Modded should have huge tits and a fat belly or insane abs.
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>>573269202
>posts this while most of the mods on the list of that anon are there to make the game easier
kek
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>>573269882
>huge tits and a fat belly
truth hellbomb
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>>573269882
>>573270026
Wrong.
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>>573269803
After playing Helldivers 2, i forgot what its like to have enemies that are actually trying to kill you and can aim straight
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cyberstan gave me stockholm syndrome
genuinely im just playing this game hoping for another similar clusterfuck that almost drives me to a heart attack from the 35 minutes of constant adrenaline and explosions
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>>573248762
Where's the trailer, hopesissy?
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go talk about flopshart games in your thread
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>>573269735
>tracking is artificial difficulty
>complex objectives is artificial difficulty
>mission modifiers are artificial difficulty
>enemies dealing damage is a stim tax
>enemies being able to kill you is a reinforcement tax
>heavy armored enemies are a stratagem tax
>enemies not dying in one bullet is an ammo tax
What could it all mean? An issue of sorts?
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>>573265607
>no capes
it's him
the man with no soul
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>>573270296
>Artificial difficulty is when the enemy shooting at me are actually trying to kill me and isnt just for cinematic effect
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Artificial difficulty is ap4 hiveguards
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Lying prone at the top of a hill... LMG in hand... Providing covering fire to my retarded teammates... Comfy...
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>>573269269
>heavy attacks with my trusty slab shield
>enemy knocked on their ass 80% of the time, easy cleanup
>failing that toss my map clearing ogryn frag
>him and his next 4 generations of offspring are vaporized
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High and a warbond got a hot hand
Place your bets ladies and gentlemen
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>more players on ACK-amar than the squid MO planet
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>>573270171
We're unlikely to see that again because 3 at a time
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>>573270026
/HDG/
/Hefty Dames General/
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>>573269971
most of the mods on the list should've been part of the game at launch. there is no reason why things like better range reticles for AT shouldn't be a thing in a game that claims to be realistic.
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>>573270705
muh...
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>>573270705
bitch got 0 ass
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>>573270705
That cat was so fucking scared it felt her gravitational pull activate
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>>573270705
Ew.
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>>573270705
>0 ass
>+100 tits

Perfect body for my small pp
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>>573270705
that baskinator?
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>>573270705
not fat enough
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>>573270705
Would.
Could.
Should.
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>>573270927
heh
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The game needs more helldiver voice lines. I want callouts for every single heavy unit and objective there is.
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>>573270375
Genuinely though I am impressed by the average person's inability to define artificial difficulty as anything other than
>"thing that killed me which makes it bad because I'm good"
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>>573271368
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>>573271746
it took them almost two years to add a voiceline for air units
and I'm pretty sure they only did that because they added the chink voiceover
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>>573271768
>>"thing that killed me which makes it bad because I'm good"
You just described 99% of the complaints Helldivers 2 players have
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>>573271963
Yeah.
I know.
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>>573271849
>it took them almost two years to add a voiceline for air units
What?
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it's fun getting suppressed and hearing the same "LIBERTY SAVE ME" line if you need to call a few stratagems
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>>573272070
they recently added a call out for gunships, shriekers and such
previously it was just a generic bot/bug/squid one
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>>573272090
for me its hearing
>DROPPING ITEM
halfway across the map when absolutely nothing is going on
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warbond trailer soon
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>>573270161
i started playing again with my brain off initially to level my skitarii and when a nearby gunner raped me to 1% health on uprising in the span of a second i almost couldn't believe it
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>>573272126
Wait really? I didn't hear any of those when I play the game last night, my diver just say "Bot"
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>>573271186
This guy is a tranny chasing weirdo and so is the dude in the pic
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>>573271768
>define artificial difficulty
To me, artificial difficulty is just "thing that kills you out of your control or you have very little control over"

>The dragon bridge in Dark Souls 1 is the prime example
>You walk on bridge first time
>Dragon kills you
>There was no way to know the dragon is there

I think Hive Lord is the closest to artificial difficulty in Helldivers.
>People just have to ignore it
>It kills you instantly
>Sporadically appears and disappears
>Insane HP that takes dedicated team of 4 to kill with heavy pen and explosives
>No reward for killing it
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>>573272570
sure did
i went through the effort and looked for one of the voicelines in the game files
https://vocaroo.com/18BqJpK9BvLH
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I never had a single crash last patch so this update means nothing for me
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>>573272497
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>>573272804
Roughly the same, I'd define it as
>"Difficulty" achieved through adding excessive tedium or through methods that are outside of the player's control.
So both shit like "gotcha instakills that you can't avoid, either without previous knowledge or at all" and "bloating the fuck out of game numbers so shit just takes a lot longer and failure results in a ton of lost time".
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>>573272804
>make a boss enemy
>instead of making a short mission that's just hunting the hive lord staple it to regular missions with a pitiful reward for the effort it takes to take one down making it a hassle to clear ops on the planet unless you hivelordproof your loadout
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>>573272570
Theres a ton of unused dialogue. Some for seeing wildlife and others for killing enemies with fire and many more.
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>>573272804
I wouldn't call the Hive Lord "artificial difficulty", but the concept is kind of poorly executed. I think it's meant to be a constant hazard that forces you to stay inside of the caves, but the hiveworld maps don't have a consistently high map-coverage of caves. Getting a map that barely has any caves and a Hive Lord feels uninteractive, whereas trying to hide from a Hive Lord in the caves feels like a interesting cat and mouse.
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>>573273289
Female voice only?
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>>573274018
bro
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Now that you're all out of piss how are you all going to survive until the warbond drops?
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>>573274646
i'll just play something else
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>>573274646
I may be out of piss but I have plenty of shit
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>>573274074
IDK man, I just boot the game up and got a seed with gunship patrol, my diver still say "Bot" when I ping one of the gunships
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you need to start trusting the plan again
remember what happened the last time you doubted sweden
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>>573273839
>hivelord proof your loadout
You bring strafing run. That's it.
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>>573275393
What will they do if I doubt them, I don't remember.
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>>573275585
they embarrass you with an incredible patch
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>>573272804
>>People just have to ignore it
>>It kills you instantly
>>Sporadically appears and disappears
>>Insane HP that takes dedicated team of 4 to kill with heavy pen and explosives
>>No reward for killing it
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>>573275585
The viking invasion of England.
300 years of rape.
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>>573275912
>X X X X X X
Man Sweden is so dogshit I bet they can't prove me wrong.
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>>573275969
The initial version of these were so retardedly overtuned that they make Vox Engines look like a joke.
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>>573272804
>>There was no way to know the dragon is there
Have you tried turning your monitor on?
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>>573269269
I've never understood whining because of these guys, yes they are annoying, but nothing more. A fucking gunner who alone is able to annihilate you is much more dangerous.
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>>573276293
They made open field missions impossible.
>4 Flying whales
>Drop in
>No cover
>Get Lasered
>Respawn
>Laser
>Respawn
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>>573276904
Theyre not meant to be the big threat. Theyre meant to block you from getting to the actual threats and disrupt you.
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>>573277070
>lasered
they didn't have lasers back then
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>>573276904
oink oink
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>>573275969
>>573276293
Looking back at these now is fucking hilarious because literally who thought they were a good idea. You would be like 7/8 of the way done with an Evacuate mission and then this nigger would appear from behind a skyscraper half a mile away and instantly destroy the generator.
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>>573269269
No one thought AP4 hive guards were hard, retard.
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>>573277432
So is that why Arrowhead announced a change to revert them not even a week after the patch launched?
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>play our dogshit faction or else LE CONSEQUENCES!!
Hmmm... Nah.
I know… UGH, I know! I’m just not going to play them at all!
HA HA HA HA HA
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>>573277432
It doesn't matter how hard they actually were, people complained anyway.
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>>573277070
>ultra heavy enemy
>atrociously high health
>buggy fucking hitboxes
>floats 100m in the air
>instantly respawns on death
>always 3-4 active at once
>infinite range for its main guns
>can see you from across the map, through all obstacles and cover
>main guns are an instant kill on a near miss, gigaragdoll on a miss
>capable of sniping you through molecule-wide gaps from across the map without missing
>even if you manage to do significant damage to them, they'll despawn the moment they're out of your LOS in order to respawn a fresh full-health one

>decided to put these fuckers in NON-CITY OPEN MAPS
Vox and Roaches had nothing on these things
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>>573277661
>Smoke didn't work at the time they were released
>Fix Smoke shortly before Cyberstan
>Smoke didn't work on them when they already spotted you
>Which was seconds after they spawned.
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>>573277514
They reverted it because they got backlash for making a nonsensical change dogshit change that nobody asked for.
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>>573277661
>lure mine
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>>573277889
Uh huh. Sure. I too, throw a tantrum when a big nothing happens.
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>>573277531
Even if they made the reward for saving it amazing, still nobody would do it.
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>>573277865
Smoke kind of worked because it reduced their accuracy, so at least you weren't being sniped over and over.
>>573277917
Didn't exist at the time.
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>>573277980
>nothing happens
You don't play the game, retard.
Med pen is already weak on every faction except maybe appropriators. Nerfing it even more doesn't make any sense
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>>573278090
Arrowhead: Are you laughing yet?
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>>573278052
>Smoke kind of worked because it reduced their accuracy
not exactly
the lasers still needed a los to target players but they had a charge up
which means if the leviathan saw you, started charging the shot, then you threw a smoke the shot would still see you because it technically was fired before the smoke appeared
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>>573278090
To be fair, you did have a pretty big window to get out of the way of the giant slow enemy.
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>>573278151
I do play the game. And the Hive Guard change was the biggest nothing burger imaginable and only affected people that wanted sentries to play the game for them. They rolled over if you looked at them funny.
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>>573278316
The strongest sentry on the bug front is tesla which didn't even get affected by the nerfs.
You don't play the game.
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>>573278316
It was a buff for any sentient human, because they died way easier if you aimed anywhere but the head.
I'm pretty sure GP would just 1hit it even in the head.
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>>573277235
That still happens by the way. t. Squiddiver tired of these niggers not leaving me the fuck alone.
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>>573278523
ok retard
tesla is popular with people who are at least sentient which constitute a veyr minor percentage of this game's playerbase
retards and dadgamers still love their guard dogs and gatling/mg sentries
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>>573277514
>>573277889
>>573277980
>>573278151
>>573278316
The hiveguard change was retarded and deserved to be reverted because it was a good change (making the front AP4) combined with an awful change (making the rest AP1 and cutting their health in half)
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>>573278090
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>>573278523
I never see anyone take the tesla. Nice try though.
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>>573278261
>yeah bro just don't be in that part of the map
>oh there's 3 of them?
>j-just wait for them to p-
>oh another one spawned instantly when it reached the map-edge?
>uhm.. uh.. huh..
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>>573278856
I run full arc when I want to troll a team
>Arc thrower for accidental kills
>Bouncy Arc grenade for accidental kills
>K-9 Arc Dog for accidental kills
>Tesla tower for accidental kills
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>>573279249
>Arc thrower for accidental kills
people who die to this deserve it
>Bouncy Arc grenade for accidental kills
people who die to this deserve it
>K-9 Arc Dog for accidental kills
you're a nigger
>Tesla tower for accidental kills
people who die to this deserve it
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>>573278639
>Nothing happened
>admits that guard dogs and gatling/mg sentries got cucked
I accept your concession
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>>573279249
i run full mines when i want to troll and put lure mines around corners
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>>573278856
I would... but everyone else suddenly gets brain damage when it's called in.
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>>573279458
you are a much more successful troll than any arcnigger could ever hope to be
also, kill yourself
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>>573279458
I put lure mines on the back of supply pods or support weapon pods aswell.
I love just watching and waiting for teammates to set off my traps.
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>>573279458
nice try
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>>573279734
>>573265607(me)
>cheating
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>>573277889
and what about all the mspaint drawings and essays written about 'muh sentries!!"
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>>573279734
>needs big glowing arrows to point at the big glowing landmines
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>>573279890
yup
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>>573279890
>big glowy landmines that totally doesn't go invisible because terrain deformation

>>573280000
checked
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Ya know... the feds lurking this site have probably seen the robutt.. The chances are slim but never zero
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Yeah, I imagine even they recognize how smelly and brown the ones posting them are.
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>>573280679
Mister President, you H A V E to see this.
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>>573280679
I wonder if the trans fed DOGE fired thinks of me sometimes..
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>last year may/june
>defense of super earth
>this year's may/june
>crickets chirping
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>>573281609
patience zoom zoom we are only 7 days into july
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>>573281701
who's talking about july
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>jump over charger
>heh, I will just run away now
>look behind me
>he managed to do a 180 in a secons and now is about to outrun me
>rapes me
I thought they fixed the 180 turns???
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Day 20 of not playing this game.
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>>573281931
B-Based!
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>replying to xerself
sad display, troon
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>>573281778
only for the host.
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>>573277187
but they were laser accurate
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>>573281931
>giant man hands
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>>573281931
Look at what real willpower looks like, you fucking faggot
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>>573277531
>planetwide catastrophic tempest
is this reflected in the game in any cool sort of way? if not i don't give a shit
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>>573283162
the skybox is kinda purplish
and you can get struck by a lightning
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>>573278052
>Smoke kind of worked because it reduced their accuracy
Finally, an excuse to post this old clip. We probably would have died without the smoke.
https://files.catbox.moe/r2yrgt.mp4
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>>573282965
>Russian addicted to a Russian circlejerk game
Sounds right
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>yet another episode of solofagging and having the most kills on the team
what do they even do they didn’t even do the main objectives I did those
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>>573282965
oink oink
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>>573283162
Nope. Theres a mission where it makes it rainy but once you complete the main objective it stops and theres little purple shit floating around. Thats it. They went through the trouble of making the planet look more densely clouded when youre in orbit but not reflect that in actual missions. Its peak Swedish laziness.
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>>573283396
Laugh at you, that's normally what we do with solofags.
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>>573283396
no one gives a shit solonig
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>>573283273
>Russian circlejerk game
Юдинцeвы are kikes, and their main office is in Hungary.
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>enemy base is perfectly aligned with my Eagle Airstrike
Say goodbye niggas
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>>573283162
The wind and rain does seem to become more intense when the exostorm reaches stage 3, and the sky gets more purple.
This is what the sky looked like during stage 3 on Hydrobius before it got voided.
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>>573283396
Solofagging makes the game easier this has been discussed for a while now. Wait for the rest of the team to bait the breaches away and you're playing on easy mode. Even if a breach comes down on you as a solofag you can run away with ease until it runs out.
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>>573283568
Ellen joe owes me sex
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>>573283767
holy shit is that the ozone hole
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>>573281931
so why are you in a general for a game you're totally not playing then?
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>>573283568
oink oink
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>>573283568
>>573283273
>>573282965
Good morning, Tzaars
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>>573283806
She is literally an underage schoolgirl.
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242245366447/76561197962839239

d10 squids genesis prime
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>>573283568
>Hungary
So it's a Russian game, from some soviet state?
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>>573283845
I like to shitpost.
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>>573283938
o̵ink oink
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>>573283938
>Checks site
And?
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>>573283938
Out of 10!
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>>573283872
I quit War Thunder back when they introduced Vietnam era jets. Early cold war no missiles was peak jet gameplay.
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>>573281701
you said that for two months nigger
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>>573283938
raw and balls deep
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>>573283984
2/4
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>>573282965
>14 thousand hours
пчeл...
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>>573283938
>She is literally an underage schoolgirl.
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the good news regarding the pigger is that he'll either get conscripted or bombed sooner or later meaning their stain of an existence in /hdg/ is but a temporary issue. it's reassuring knowing we'll have little issue outlasting them at the very least
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>>573283984
3/4
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>>573284891
half of players joining /hdg/ lobbies are russian thoughever?
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>xe is still trying to /pol/bait
lmao
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>fellow BreakthroughGOD and I act as a battering ram through the swarm while our footslogging homies mop up with a flamethrower and MMG
>fun mission, EZPZ
Sometimes pubs are alright
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>>573283984
full
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>>573284997
even if that were true, it wouldn't make what I said any less true thoughbeit
>>573285032
squeal some more
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>>573283410
>Destroying Vortex
>Small explosion inside
>So many enemies spawn on D10
>Can never see the actual spire above explode
>It's not even a good explosion like " Launch IBM" or "destroy ship"

Swedes are the best at cucking their players
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>>573284714
That chart was made by a jew, i can tell.
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>>573285585
>>573285585
>>573285585
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>>573285396
is he wrong though
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>>573270296
notice how I said one thing then you added a bunch of shit I didn't say because you couldn't refute my point.
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>>573283568
Stop shitposting here, you should be shitposting in /zzz/.
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>>573282965
help



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