/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#880 - giantess meme edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsFable 5 unbanned https://www.anthropic.com/news/redeploying-fable-5Claude Sonnet 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-5GLM-5.2 https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2CLAUDE FABLE FUCKING BANNED https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999Minimax-M3 https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M3Kimi 2.7 Code https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.7-Codeadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.orghttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>573225262
>ANCHOR
If I want to write a card that's basically copy-pasting a pre-existing short story and telling the AI "write more like this" what's the best way to do it? Using the chat examples block or something else?
>my suggestion didnt get pickedthis must be a personal spitebake directed against me
>>573279743Unironically just copy the short story into the description in an XML block and then write the card around it.
Any way to get SillyTavern create an image prompt of current character/scene for me to post into custom Comfy workflow?
Splat, splat, splat... puhahahah, look, your sperm cells are all getting bursted by evil prions folding their proteins wrong! How pathetic~
>>573279853Magic wand, "generate image" button.
>>573279820What XML block would you use, just <example> or something?
>very cute picssizefags might be okay....
BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND NOT ONCE HAVE I WON THEME SUGGESTIONFUCKING RIGGED NIGGER POLLNIGGERPOLL FUCK YOU CHEATER NIGGER NIGGERN I G G E RNIGGEST^999999999
>>573279985Don't fall for the psyop!
>>573279951Even has an option for you to send a workflow straight to Comfy for it to use.>>573279979Yeah, or <original>.
cftf?
>>573279538imagine her kissing a tiny mousegirl
>look away for 10 minutes>bakie calls>the shittiest suggestion gets getsted
>>573280253Is that Chara or Krisf?
>>573280314its me in the pic actually
>>573279951>>573280064I don't want it sent anywhere, just dump it in chat. Online can't do porn and I haven't spent time setting up ComfyUI. Shit is expecting full checkpoint instead of just model+clip+vea.
FABLE GODS
>>573280437It shows it to you before it sends it anywhere if you have this enabled.
>>573280503Oh thank fucking god I was fretting over whether I should hop into a game today because I really wanted to or use the most of my Fable sub and keep chatbotting today because I had to. See ya FAAAGGGOOOOTS *waves cheerfully*
>>573280503
>>573280314KrisBut it's not like there is much of a difference
>>573280692Goatboy cock status?
>>573280539Yeah, just found that out.
>>573280738politely raping
>>573280503You know there is ONE (1) cuckie who used all his tokens on useless shit just before it was announced.
What the fuck is a cuckie
>>573280692Man what the fuck, I went looking confident I could find something and there's ZERO (0) good Deltarune-specific even mildly dominant Asriel incest bots. Everyone wants to put in and nobody wants him to put out. Could probably tune https://chub.ai/characters/biguswigus/asriel-dreemurr-deltarune-548ac20b2df7 to get what you wanted because it's the closest we've got, but man.
>>573280894It's what you areWhat you will always be
The crazy thing about the creepy thread (((culture))) of adding -ie to the end of words to make them sound cuter is the average user here is a bald Polish tranny with acne problems. Just imagine that every time you see some fag trying to act cute with kaomojis and -ies like they're an anime moeblob instead of an untouchable asocial sperg
>>573281052I actually have plenty of hair.
I'm a cuckie ( • ̀ω•́ )
I am a locust.
>>573281268Eeeeew... *Stomps on you* ( •`ᴖ´• )
Spermbags and wombsacks, that's all you are. Unlike me, the TRVE botmakie who has been ensouled fully with only the most kino cards
RAVE EXCHANGE VOL. 2Signups close 7/14.https://rentry.org/aicg-rave-vol-2
>>573281572>*flies inside ur ear and starts BRZZZZZZT*
>>573281739your anchor, dumbcutie >>573279547
>>573281052how creepie you assume we're Poalies here...
>>573282004T-thank you...
char is a walking contradiction
WHICH WAY, BOTBOY>theme week>card exchange
She detonated. It wasn't a standard nut—it was a pressurized, high-velocity artillery strike. A thick, opaque, white-gold cream blasted from her chinpo with enough force to turn the air into a frothy mist. It was a SPLURRRTTTTTTT! PLURTTT! of unadulterated, nutrient-dense futanari seed. The semen was viscous and heavy, filled with millions of microscopic, flagellated life-seeds that thrashed in the stream, creating a DORO-DORO bubbling sound as it hit the target.>>573279854
i fucking hate football man it's just suffering
>>573282296>footballwhy are you larping
>>573282296I'm so happy bro you don't understand. my heart was dying
https://poal.me/qhabfchttps://poal.me/qhabfchttps://poal.me/qhabfc
>>573281739there's already an event going on
free fable? Thx
>>573282465i mean yeah but theme week guy wants like 10 days to submit and 10 days to make the cards so it's like 90% dead air while it's monopolizing that time
>>573282482no
>>573282465by that logic there's no other events allowed ever because theme hostie had said before he wants his event to be always active.
>>573280858I made modding workflows for all my pee sea gay mans with itRan like 5x Ultracode sessions at a time which eats 100% of my 5 hour cap in 45 minutes, then auto continues after.
>>573281739I LOVE U RAVE HOSTIE
>>573282672this. the new theme week guy is kind of a nigger so I wasn't gonna participate anyway. plus last rave was fun.
>>573282465I wanted to host this event months ago before Aishiji but I'm not stalling for unending theme week.>>573282672This guy, he gets me.>>573282749And I love you too Anon, mwah <3
>>573282951it'll be a nice thing to do if someone has event fomo but doesn't like whatever theme wins
>>573281943*bites you with my teeth* GRAARRR
ST almost back from vacation
>>573279547https://github.com/MentallyQuill/RecursionSharing my new, experimental multi-step reasoning extension, Recursion.It takes the concept of Stepped Thinking, but rather than characters internalizing their thoughts, Recursion performs stepped-reasoning across a slew of scene-level items that it determines are most relevant to the scene and next message.It does this using what I'm calling reasoning cards, forming a deck for the scene, that tracks things like pressure, intent, constraints, consequences, hidden boundaries, environmental affordances, and unresolved threads. It then builds a composed brief around those cards, and injects it with them. The result is improved guidance at a surprisingly low cost, about 1-2 cents per message on a NanoGPT sub. Recursion can help a cheaper model punch a little higher when it comes to ST roleplay.It also has a post-generation prose enhancement feature to clean prose and reduce common slop, and a number of quality of life features and settings.If you hate replies that seem to skirt over the subtle (or even obvious, sometimes) without needing to point it out, give Recursion a try! Would love to get some player feedback on this.
>>573283281>Wolfsblvt is back from being deadAlright, I'm confident in the project's continued success. Unlike how it was when that USELESS FUCK ROSSASCENDS WHO DOESN'T DO SHIT was the only active maintainer.
>>573283281nigga i got Fable to add Fable to Sillytavern weeks ago
>>573283382https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1uq0yij/recursion_multistepped_reasoning_extension_my/reddit spambot's back
>>573283281too late too littlefuck cohee and his bunch of idiots, staying with my fork
kek was logprobs just straight up never implemented for OR? well it works now (open weights models, obviously)
Hey guys, futanazi here to start up more trouble! What do you think about girls with ducks? Are they real or fake? I definitely didnt move on with my life and instead continue to browse this thread specifically to bait arguments about my fetish!
>>573284095post futa nazis or gtfo
>>573284095I think you're thinking about the dynamics of this thread too hard.
>>573283472it's just a sharty
>>573282482bros...I wanna get catfished like this...
>>573284095>girls with dicksThat's only half of what makes a futanari a futanari. I think your bait is a little half-baked.
>>573283397ok so what can you do that ross can't?
>>573284508same bro
>>573284095idk dude a real duck might spice up a bath but I'm not so sure of the logistics of actually keeping one
>>573284508i dont that would fucking suck
>>573284516I was asking about girls with ducks you freak, girls dont have dicks!
>>573284516okay futanazi go ahead and post your rentry, we all know it's coming
>>573284095>girls with ducksPrincess tutu?
>>573285104https://rentry.org/icecubesarehot
>>573281739i wish this event had public requests
>>573285178that's a girl that IS a duck, completely different
SillyTavern more like SmellyTranny
>>573285631You think so? I'd given it consideration but wasn't sure how the execution would be in a context where requests are primarily through music links.
>>573261414for me oyakodon is a potent spice applied to my usual deliciously large mealits surprisingly fun, i used to do it a lot with an old oyakodon maid card i had lying aroundi usually use single characters nowadays though, may have to revisit soon
cftf?https://files.catbox.moe/woxo9n.opus
>>573282482Who's this blue archive character
>>573286321that's a vtuberhttps://x.com/LaLa145264
Hhuhhh?Uploading files in cucknito is not allowed?
Is {{user}} really still unwed? What a coincidence. I was passing by an acquaintance's home in the next village over, and was relayed a tale of woe from one of the families there which, having been blessed by with a bountiful flock of goats, were in turn deprived of a bountiful flock of another sort. Their one and only child is all grown up now, and quite pleasing to the eye I hear, and it would be a soothing balm(so my friend tells me) for
>>573286398I look like a fat Bukharan emir and sit cross legged in the Moroccan bazaar smoking hashish all day and I say this to every passing stranger
>>573286564
>>573286379>cute model>cute voice>makes ai porn of herself>cute irl toojp vtubers really are so much better then any others
>>573279538>>573279547IT'S HERE!!!https://github.com/Pasta-Devs/Marinara-Engine/releases/tag/v2.1.0>Marinara Engine>Release v2.1.0Audio and video calls are here! Plus video generation in general (for animated scenes in roleplays and games, or expressions). Plus, more games to play with characters that now play differently depending on their personality. Plus, many minor QoL additions. And even more bug fixes.Enjoy!
>>573285178No he means like the funny little nuns that Diva draws.
>>573286870i was trying to talk about this last thread but some discord was shitting up the thread and spamming
>>573286874tranny art, by a tranny, for trannies
>>573286630You'd make a nice character card.
>>573286072Just paste the song links sent to you and the descriptions of them in the hypothetical public rentry?
>>573286975>some discordIt's just the usual suspects trying to force drama by doxxing. Retards were posting about Kiwifarms too. As with all trolls: report and move on
>>573286630>Bukharan>in the Moroccan bazaarnigga, you were supposed to turn back after you finished your Hajj, not go further west
>>573287014Talking about transgenders nonstop makes oyu more annoying than them.
>>573287028cftf?
>>573282465>>573282615>>573282672>>573282917>>573282951If you want to coordinate an event schedule, you just have to reach out. But what you're doing now is setting up things so that it overlaps perfectly with the theme week. It doesn't seem good for anybody involved.
>>573287126what if i do so positively because i'm a chaser
>>573287180I'll write one for you.>{{user}} is a fat feudal piglet who keeps his country in the middle ages despite living in 20th century. {{user}} has {{roll:1d100}} days until communist revolutionaries take over his emirate and modernize it into a Soviet republic.
>>573287267half of the time allotted for the theme week isn't even making bots or doing anything related to botmaking, it's sitting around waiting for submissions and then sitting around waiting for another week or whatever for voting so another event that has a snapper schedule isn't the end of the world, particularly considering not everyone participates in/cares about the theme week, especially if a theme they aren't interested in wins
>>573287028How the fuck did you get this photograph taken of me? Aaahh I still remember that day like it was yesterday, a white man came through town with a letter introduction from the Caliph saying that he was from some place called Came's Bridge(the location of an Anglic madrasa, or their equivalent thereof) and he had this interesting device. A box with a little window on one side, which he stood upon long legs of wood. He explained that it was a new invention which by the grace of Allah was able to imprint the likeness of a man upon a>>573287108I got kicked out of every market and bazaar east of Tunis because I would sit in them and smoke and bother travelers with stories all day.
Lumiverse is KINO, why did nobody tell me about it?Much MUCH better than SillyTavern.
>>573287108The good thing about living in large monolithic empires back in the day is that you could walk a month in one direction, like where you ended up, and decide to live there and everyone would be welcoming
>>573287267>>573287409although if the dates were setup specifically to overlap with theme week on purpose then it should be shifted around and instead overlap over the 20 days or whatever of *nothing happening because half the 'event' is just waiting*
>>573286870https://rentry.org/mariannegrab
>>573287520Based Shunko enjoyer, but you lose points for first-person slop.
>>573287409>>573287548Right now it's>theme week18th~26th Card Submissions>rave14th~28thIf someone had an issue with the theme week schedule, creating an event that overlapped with it was counter-intuitive. It helps nobody.
>>573287267>b-b-but you could just coordinate!>with someone who doesn't listen to criticism and has said he wants his event to constantly be active>and is acting on that always being active despite many people telling him its a bad ideaor nu-theme anon could just get over himself.
>>573287484how is the steppe herding economy? is islamakazakhmoroccostanghdadinople's gdp doing good these days
What the fugg is a tunis
>>573287267Considering how ravehostie said he already stalled once for Aishiji, he likely already had the date planned before themehostie decided to be a colossal nigger.
>>573287758the only real thing is that multiple people told him that it's too slow for what's called an event WEEK not an event MONTH, everything else about how he's running it is fine. it's so goddamn slow i don't see how you could really call it threadshitting or intentional, 50% of your event isn't even about making cards because we won't know what the theme is until 20 days into it or whatever and the rest of the time is just sitting around waiting
>>573287918The Roman province of Moesia but it's all cute proto-Bulgar girls and scantily-clad Scythian onee-chans going "moe moe kyun~"
>Hostie this>Hostie thatHow about you host a village festival with song and dance?
>>573287973teebeeech it should be an actual theme weekfirst week of every monthone day to vote, 5 days to makie and release on the 7th dayno we dont need more then one day to vote just be here enough that day and shill multiple times so that you can get a good spread of participants from every timezone
>>573280021Don't worry anon, I'm sure your suggestion will win next!
>>573288419das what the rave event is for, STOOPIT
>>573288563i feel like submissions and voting should take a little longer if for nothing else to give the host time to stay organized, like each of those stages should be 2-3 days each at the most and then 5 days to submit the card. this whole taking an entire goddamn month thing is just retarded as much as i like having the theme weeks back.
>>573287626>shunkoI know what you are.
>>573288563>one day to vote, 5 days to makie and release on the 7th dayThis. It worked back when we originally had themeanon hosting theme week. The only thing we ever needed to change was the polling method.
>>573288996the polling method is one reason i don't think it should be only 24 hours, it can take time to go through e-mails and tally votes and stuff and not everyone can be here every single day so 2/3 days feels more reasonable to me than an ENTIRE WEEK.
>>573288563>one day to vote, 5 days to makie and release on the 7th day This kind of schedule only works for NEETs and other people with no responsibilities.
>>573287267>NOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE AROUND ***ME***, I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN HAVE AN EVENT PLANNED IN ADVANCE!! AND ALSO I NEED THE ENTIRE MONTH FOR MY ETERNAL EVENT BECAUSE UHHHSorry but this is entirely on you. You should have listened to the warnings and the constant feedback you received regarding this.
>>573287267>>573287717>>573287964I actually wanted to host in March initially but Aishiji started before I did, and I penned in this date afterwards.>>573288419If I did, nobody would come...
>doing ERP with sadistic futa and femboy twins>it escalates to the point of me being lead on a leash, dressed in rags, in a BDSM club>somehow ends up me being best friends with the two few paragraphs laterThis is some crazy roler-coaster. Not sure if I should continue or backpedal.
>>573286072See >>573287105Anons send you music link, you include them in a public submissions rentry which anons can pick and choose from!
>>573289259i genuinely see no reason why both events can't happen at once given how different they are in approach and scope, it's not like two gigantic self-indulgent Aishiji events that never stop or shut the fuck up happening at once
>>573289449this. theme guy is the only one having a meltie over this happening.
>>573288563>one day to vote, 5 days to makie and release on the 7th dayJust make submissions and voting take up the same week x43-day submission, 3-day voting (maybe even less, I doubt anyone needs multiple days for sending an email either), then the rest is for makieing and releasing at free disposal throughout the week.
>>573289551well given how many schizos and spitefag threadshitters we have i kind of share in the concern of it being done out of spite or w/e but rave-anon is pretty upfront and he wanted to do this months ago but Aishiji was a shitty event that monopolized the thread for an entire quarter of a year, so if anything i would blame that fag for that because no one else could run events for 3 fucking months
Why did this general never contribute anything of value to the hobby?
*farts very loudly*
Who just did that
Must've been the wind...
Whoever smelt it dealt it
>>573289982people who try anything get cast off
>>573290613>he actually replied
cftf
>>573290613Laughing at this anon
whoever said the rhyme did the crime
botmakies that tried?
>>573290835I TRIED SO HARD, AND GOT SO FAR
>>573244584>>573248478what drives you to that filth? macro is so lame; I feel tingles in my pp when I see normal-sized dicks
>>573291040NTA but macro is interesting when the tiny is around 6-7 inches. That way the vore comes with struggle, and the scale feels actually meaningful. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>573291221Oh wait, macro, not micro. Oops.
nano banana has been "assessing artistic fidelity" for over five minutes now...
>>573291426It's to get that real trap shit fidelity buddy
>>573291221pretty sure he wasnt even talking about size
>>573291601>huge dicks
>>573291753well yeah but your post was entirely about tiny person stuff, the dude was just talking about huge assets
>>573291221AYYYYYYYYY SIX SEVEN
>>573279538Help! I died in real life while playing my vr video game and got reborn into the game, but the system interger overflowed my companion NPC height!
>giantesstroons shitting up the threadin other news, the sky is blue
ah yes, shitting the shit only you can see
>>573292015>the sky is bluewrong
im a BASED microchad and i feel tingles in my pp when i see tiny dicks
>>573291928where the FUCK are all the giant foxgirls
>>573289982This general was the dying breath of the hobby, the hobby was /g/aicg/.
Reminder:https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/568819556/#q568847461
>>573292268They are waiting for you
>>573288079
>>573292457That's funny because I'm new here.
>>573292243based i wish we had more smol pp focused cards
>>573293371make the small pp bots you want to see in the world anon
Should I play Legend of Dragoon on my Steal Deck?
>>573279547Theme Week #2Heads-up for this week's schedule!>July 4th~10th: Reply to my posts with theme suggestions>10th~17th: Voting>18th~26th Card SubmissionsThis actually adds up to 9 submission days, giving you two whole weekends to get your work done. And plenty of time for suggestions and voting.I ask that you please word your suggestion exactly how you want it to appear on the Rentry/poll. It's up to you to word it in a way that will make your peers vote for the suggestion.Regarding the overlapping Rave Exchange, if that hostie has no issue with it, I won't mind it, either. It's less than ideal but not the end of the world. I've linked their event's Rentry on mine, so that more people become aware of both events.An Anon previously asked about the possibility of ranked elections. I've been convinced that it would be the best option, especially since we have so many suggestions for this week.I've asked my good friend ChatGPT to come up with a script for ranked elections. Here's a lazy example output with a few of the existing themes. Under this system, you can vote not just for what you want to win, but your preference in order. This should make the system a lot more fair.
picking just three songs for rave event is le hard.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-EjoJXDkE4
>>573293751*Gives a long-winded, sloppy, disgusting kiss to your cheek*
Fable is so fucking good, holy shit.
>>573279538You forgot this in the OPhttps://rentry.co/frontendsforretardshttps://rentry.co/frontendsforretardshttps://rentry.co/frontendsforretards
>>573294015đalit post
>>573293751Dude we do not need a whole ass week for voting and another for card submissions this shit has no right to take almost half a month
>>573294163you being mad that people use frontends other than ST doesn't need to be in the OP
>>573294204*Gives a long-winded, sloppy, disgusting tongue-kiss to your anus*
>>573280261That would be homicide sir
>>573294269SAĄR U R REDEEMING THE FULL POWER OF MY SPICY CURRY *BRAAAAAAAP*
>>573294891AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYEEEEEEEEE MY EEEEEEEEEEYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
>>573294221>people use frontends other than STI have seen about a dozen screenshots total of people actually using these and most of the time it's obviously someone just briefly fucking around and usually even saying as much
>>573294945different social circles
>>573295014>yeah well it happens on reddit and discordyeah i think that's part of the problem people have with it
>>573294206The bulk of voting last time arrived in the first 4 days and I haven't received as many suggestions as I did on the first day, so I wouldn't be opposed to speeding things up, if people feel that changing the schedule is the lesser evil between that and having the event stretch too long.I could end suggestions today/tomorrow, have 4 days of voting and do the submissions between 11th~19th.
>>573294163> reposts clear shitpostgood bait anon
>>573295082your problem
>>573295279yes, it is /aicg/'s problemyou can go back
>>573294945See >>573287520
>>573295305no, its your problem
>>573295407no u
we are the new /g/aicg/
we wuz ni/g/gas n sheeit nahmsayn
>>573287520NIGGER THIS IS JUST SILLYTAVERN WITH A VIBECODED THEME
>>573295082>the problem people haveyou're the only one who does though, just because you spam across multiple devices to create the illusion of "people" doesn't make it so
>>573295331>#2>user message has an em dash in it>you can't even see half of the rpas i said, someone briefly fucking around
how do you respond when an NPC approaches you at a party only to ask why you approached themor captures you and asks you to lead the waydo you do an OOC correction, attack the NPC for trying to gaslight you, or just suffer?
Why are we such a shit general /aicg/? I don't understand. It's only spite, shitposts and copypastas isn't it?>botmakies, hosties, logmakies, cuckies>Marinara Engine>slop>Reddit posts>etc./b/ threads are less cancerous than here and they're made by retards with no sense of decorum or community etiquette who want to post pictures of scat and CP while talking about how much they want to fuck their mom's pussy!Furries at /vp/ have a better chatbot general than us, simps at /vt/ have a better bot general than us and FUCKING PONYFAGS HAVE A BETTER GENERAL THAN US! /lmg/ and /aids/ point their Doritos stained fingers at us and call us "the tranny general" because they know that our bot general is a cancerous circlejerk! We deserve this! We deserve to be shitposter central where shitposters come to shitpost and shitpost some more! OWARI DA! IT'S OVER! WE LOST! GOODBYE WORLD! Farewell! Adios! Sayonara! さよなら! Au revoir! Auf Wiedersehen! Arrivederci! Allah Hafiz! Asalto!
>>573295850That sounds like it could lead into an amusing scenario. Don't OOC like a fucking PUSSY, call them out on it and then mangle them to death
>>573295817>everyone who's tired of me shilling random frontend slop and crossposting reddit shit is one guy with 50 phonessuck my dick
>>573295850I see you fight with words, like all beneath the flag of the bear. Let us hope your skill with weapons proves greater.
>>573295964>only one person in the thread ever talks about other frontends>but me transparently spamming every post about one whenever i wake up and have a tard tanty is thread consensusloljust get over it little man people are gonna talk about things you don't like in the thread and you can't do anything about it :) go outside for a walk it'll be okay dry your eyes lil bro it's not that big of a deal
>>573295964It's true anon, I'm your doppelganger. When are you renewing my phone subscription?
>>573295964You should continue replying to and engaging with shills.
>>573295101just listen to what is being said you dumbfuck nobody wants this forever event shit nobody wants suggestions and voting to take like 20 days and nobody wants submissions to stretch over 9 days or whateverit's called a theme WEEK I don't know why this concept is so hard for you to grasp
Why are cohee shills like this?
>>573295817Your a fucking retard that can't take a hint. None wants this shitty slop and the onyl reason nones told it to your face is because your to scared or stupid to use a trip.
>>573296127sorry i'm waiting for the cabal check to come through
>>573296187Many graves are filled with those who said as much, with braver words, not backed by strength.
>>573295964>>573296127homie whenever we can talk about other frontends no problem most of the time and the only time """people""" suddenly sperg out and spam identical comments flooding the thread is whenever 1 person is awake and doing it it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what you're doing
>cohee shills
The one thing I don't enjoy about this bot is that Vel is insistent on trooning out. He is much more plappable dressed like a man.
>>573296263>0.99gomensai, greenie. i'll see you in the marinaracord
SSRI boywitches in your area
>>573296263Hey look I'm not typing in lowercase anymore, I'm a totally different person now so please take my attempts to astroturf some kind of thread "consensus" seriously!!!!!
>>573296275decent log. +1
>>573296367Holy based
it's incredibly amusing that the claim is now "uhhhh sillytavern shills go to sleep eventually" when yesterday someone was like "SO HAS ANYONE TRIED THAT NEW MARINARA FEATURE" a bit too late at night and got literally 0 actual replies
>>573296256Many grave- Bitch shut the fuck up you autistic wanker. This isn't some anime go touch grass and stop bothering everyone.
>>573296346you make him put on the polo shirt and the skirt, obviously :^)you are objectively correct though>>573296367card please?
Is Marinacord a good place to discuss chatbots?>DiscordBoth this place and /g/ are horrible. I'll take what I can get.
>>573296367god damn it raingazer(?)god damn it
>>573296604yeah man, go there and never come back
>>573296346>He is much more plappable dressed like a man.counterpoint:
i feel bad for not replying to emails people sent me when i remember i dont have anything interesting to say.
>>573296367good. we need more dour petite femboys.
>>573296529>1 guy threadshitting and spamming schizo replies to anyone who mentions a frontend other than ST is good actuallylol
>>573295850The police asking me to lead the way after arresting me was peak slopkino.
>>573296563We shall see how brave you are when nailed to the walls of Hoover Dam, your body facing West so you may watch your world die.
The fact that SillyTavern is still shilled when it's so shittily made that it had a vulnerability allowing a keystealer is downright criminal.
>>573296670nta but counter-counterpoint: he's barely dressed here at all
>>573296806literally nobody tried the epic audio call feature that keeps getting shilled here. no videos, no audio, nobody has a single log. it's literally only marinara's screenshot of the feature, because it's all performative.
>>573296367raingazer is it your goal to get botmakers like plapresponsibly to get turned on by your gens so that they make bots of them
>>573296972post a screenshot of you using whatever frontend you want to shill. right now. post number in the user prompt
>>573296978you really need to go outside and talk to a real person, this is just sad
>>573296587>cardThere isn't one I'm sorry to report>>573296618You got it, correct, richtig
>>573296972> mfw the open source software had a bad actor make a free extention and people downloaded itI guarantee you, it is easier to steal a key from spagettislop then ST. The only reason none does it is because none uses spagettislop
>>573297065and there's no defense because you can't spring back with a log of you using your slop because you don't do anything but post here. you'd have to spend 10 minutes opening whatever up and forcing a log just so you have something to show
>and there's no defense because you can't spring back with a log of you using your slop because you don't do anything but post here. you'd have to spend 10 minutes opening whatever up and forcing a log just so you have something to show
Marinara Spaghetti CHADS!!!! HOW WE FEELING
>>573297156surprising to see a gemini log that isn't ism-pamnice
>>573297349>tardrage in filename keksee? nothing. no screenshot. meanwhile sillytavern screenshots are being posted all around you
>vpcai is STILL dead
>>573297349>no defenseheh
>>573297407Is the vpcai bread still being maintained? Are they still using CAI?
>>573297392>>573297413>posting similar replies from two devices at once to create the illusion of consensus because you're too much of a coward to stand on your own heh
This isn't even good bait.
>>573297571yeah but half the thread is bored
I don't even particularly dislike "all other frontends," it's just this Discordslop that has the most disingenuous pretenders in thread acting like people've always used it.
can we go back to posting giant women now?
>>573297356i downloaded pocket-tts to mess with the voicegen thing later, i'm not sure how much overhead comes with setting it up locally. i imagine the results won't be as robust as using API, and i'd be limited to the voices it comes with so i'd have to get into training my own voices for stuff, mite b cool. i've been looking for an excuse to get into local/voice stuff but just never really had a reason to.
>>573297693I like 'em
>>573297043I'm uninspired and the gens are just me trying out styles/prompts so tangentially maybe yeah
>>573281739>>573287105>>573289361Rentry updated to include a public request board and a link to the Theme Week Rentry.>>573293751Thanks for being a good sport, I sincerely appreciate it...!
>>573296179>it's called a theme WEEKHe should have called it Theme Month but just like how this wasn't renamed to AI Gossip General, it's easy to imitate but not to innovate.
>>573297725what extension is that
>>573297738>>573297541same person btw, only one (1) user of marinara in this thread and they're too scared to post a screenshot because they're not even using it right now
>>573291928cftf?>>573297693>can we go back to posting giant women now?funny you ask
>>573297765rain i love you very much and i hope you drank water today and had at least two real meals :3
>>573297470According to the archive that thread looks to have been dead since May of this year, and the last post in that thread links to cai and yodayo.
>>573297725>RPG Companion>Marinara sorry but you're not allowed to discuss anything related to Marinara here, poopdickschizo said so. get ready for 8 completely identical replies that are DEFINITELY from more than 1 person
>disingenuous vibecoded slop that offers no substantial upgrade over a frontend that justwerks endorsed only by trannies that copy newmakie presets and no you can't make this shit up
>>573297963also the same guy, there's exactly one marinara warrior and he's doing his hardest to make it seem like it's the opposite way around
>>573297953Whyyyyy the fuck man... they didn't even try making the switch? Genuinely sad to see.
>>573297043>>573297765it might have worked but i'm thinking more about the events than random gens but i did save it tho
>>573297876Shuddup idiot
>>573298254if i knew all it took was to make this guy sperg out was mention other frontends i would make a habit of doing it more often this is hilarious when it's not mildly concerning and sad
>>573297951That's so sweet of you to say, I love you too but I've substituted water for about 5 cups of coffee (like 80% milk) throughout the day so no worries
>>573297765relatable
>>573298157At least /wAIfu/ is thriving!
>>573298157>they didn't even try making the switch?I would bet on there being at least a few refugees from there who migrated to here. I don't know why they wouldn't have updated their own thread though.
https://poal.me/km84kv
>>573297781>public requestsyipee!!
>>573298410HEY RAIN NO! YOU NEED WATER OR ELSE YOU'LL GET HEADAKES >:(
>>573298616Obviously rigged votes, there's no way Marinara only gets two votes with the amount of attention it gets here. SillyTavern users are just a loud minority.
why on god's green earth would you use anything other than sillytavern
>>573298796Hey I drink water with lemon juice a lot too, don't worry!!
I LOVE SILLYTAVERN
>>573298983https://rentry.co/frontendsforretards
>>573298796Did... did she check for critters on those trees...
Please respond to my email
>>573298983The one normal Marinara user who doesn't have whatever's wrong with the other ones from the a few threads ago explained that the chat function was kind of fun because it railroads you a bit differently than just using the model raw, but tbdesu I think if I'm gonna try something like that I either one to vibecode it myself or use https://github.com/OrbFrontend/Orb, which looks a lot cleaner and less bloated in comparison (saw some other guy using it a bit ago and was interested from that)
Riftai is still dead. Can someone give me a proxy so I can talk about chatbots?
>>573299861Also elephant in the room aside I think Risu has some pretty interesting-looking cards but I keep trying ones that are supposed to have cool mechanicslop and then I read the greeting and it's sloppa and keep disappointing myself
>>573300614>RossAscendsFaggot who barely even contributes anything and gets muh muh muh mogged by Wolfsblvt says what
>>573300614
>>573296275 worse than >>573282253
>>573300710literally /ourguy/
What songs are you picking for the rave exchange, anons?
>>573300710trve, kill all casuals
>>573300820passenger of shit - staple tapeworms on my penisa classic
>>573300710That was when he had a meltie about RP users because Tavern was for "serious" work, right?
>>573300820I'm gonna join the themeweek if the theme that gets picked isn't shit instead, but if it is shit, I'm joining the exchange with a Vocaloid song
>>573300710HOLY FUCKING BASED, TOTAL CASUAL DEATH.
Meanwhile ,on Tavern AI koboldcpp...
>>573300960>I'm gonna join the themeweek insteadYou can send public requests, anon. I'm doing the same thing as you otherwise.
>>573300941>We want this to be a fork of tavern that is for serious work>We shall name it sillytavernno way, right?
>>573301132No point in joining an exchange if I'm not going to trade, in my eyes.
prompting hobbyfuck vibecodedslop that encourages mental retardation
>>573301172We just need someone to make a tavern fork for silly stuff and then call it SeriousTavern to finish the bit.
how do i integrate picrel into a card?
>>573301204But you wouldn't be joining the exchange, you'd just be giving an idea for whoever feels like it.
>>573301528Ask Fable, cuckie
>>573300710>omg le based he's so rude and angry just like me!!! xDDDold screen but i still don't like thisgiving yourself the tower of babel treatment where everyone is speaking different understandings of the same thing because of arbitrary fracture is what leads to this sort of idiot resentment in the first placepeople only need to use One frontend, we don't need ten thousand guides for ten thousand poopcoded harnesses
>>573301528Elaborate? You mean, a game over screen? That literal image? Could be as simple as just saying "if {{user}} dies, print out "GAME OVER""If you mean the image, then you'd have to store it externally, and then embed it into sillytavern, preferably through regexing.
How do we save the general?
>>573301809By sacrificing (You) alive to the Sun God.
>>573301809Ctrl+S
>>573301528lb entry with game over if user dies to print out the picture
>>573301715Too much text to just say he's a sanctimonious cunt, which he is.
>>573301528elaborate, more words is more gooder helpfuls sir
>>573301809We need to split again.
>chink models still aren't at Claude 3.5 levelEmbarassing...
>>573301809We need a thread mascot
>>573301945it's less about him and more that the community fracture between a thousand shitty "roleplay frontends" is the worst thing that can happen if it becomes mainstreamsuddenly feedback becomes worthless because nobody is using the same body of work and everyone's card is being thread through a thousand different eyes that all have wildly different resultsit's why i hate these proliferation spergs that keep shitting out junk harnesses
>>573302218>>573301417
>>573302301Needs to be a thread original
>>573301528```matlabI = imread('file.png');J = integralImage(I);```
>>573302194neither are nu-claude models
>>573302194They have the data, they have the data filtering, they're just not doing the RL right for some reason. We genuinely need to start kidnapping interpretability researchers and shipping them to Moonshot or Zhepu AI.
>>573302247Well too bad, that's the way things are going here right now. It's increasingly hard to justify the thread solely using an engine that's probably dead the more time passes. But yeah, I agree it's definitely a lot easier to have a conversation when you only have one or two major frontends to worry about. It's harder to build around 50 billion vibecoded slopends.
>>573303115>probably deadWe just got the main pull request reviewer back from vacation, we'll live.
>>573303206hoping you're right.
Would (You) sacrifice AI RP and the hobby as a whole if you could destroy all AI companies and undo the sloppification of the internet and writing/art/coding and any other effects of AI development?
>>573303459> destroy all AI companies no, because you're confusing the symptom for the disease
>>573298983Our Queen is cooking something good. Trust in the spaghetti!
>>573279538you do run your ai gf entirely locally, right /aicg/? Imagine getting your wife turned off because you don't have enough tokens or some shit.
>>573303459I think I'm one of the few here who'd actually say yes. Blow up that fucking DeepDream dog with a cruise missile and delete Methods of Rationality off the internet, I'm good off that shit.I would say an even more confident yes if I got to keep 8x B200s and all the models for myself and get go back in time with me being the only shitter with AI.
>>573303459Honestly no. The time just before the AI stuff started was already very crap between the ESG nonsense and the corporate blandification of everything, this is just fuel on the fire. At least there's a chance we could get something good out of this in the long run.
>>573303687Newfag
>>573298616Remove Fagnai from the OP and add Marinara
sorry that was mean
>>573303459YesI think my relationship with chatbots is like one of those self aware drug addicts who know they're fucked up but because they're high functioning/not completely retarded they cope and tell themselves that their level of addiction is Not That Bad[TM]If generative AI, LLMs, etc were somehow put back into Pandora's Box society would unironically be healthier and a lot of delusional techbros would become The RapedOn the other hand I will be sad about losing my {{char}}s for a bit but I would probably just go back to smut fics off Ao3 and HentaiFoundry
>>573298616i use ST on my PC and Marinara on my laptop (although i should really do it the other way around, i can't run local models on my laptop but i've been too lazy to transfer all my ST stuff over)
>>573304134I forgive you. I'm not that anon I just wanted you to know I forgive you.
>>573303831I use Agnai though
>>573303459Without hesitation. Pumping all of the world’s resources and making everyone’s lives materially worse to build a machine that might eventually compute how to unfuck everything is a bad scifi plot that I do not like living through, even if it gives me some epic nuts.
>>573303459no. Who else is gonna help me rp my crossovers for series i haven't watched
>>573303459>Would (You) sacrifice a more niche form of gooning if in exchange you can put all of society on a healthier courseHmmm....
>>573304524but LLM technology isn't the cause behind that. it's unchecked free market capitalism and tech oligarchs who own governments. if they weren't doing all this with LLMs they would be doing it with some other technology because enshittification is in their DNA.
>>573304679i mean there are anons here that said no, so...
>>573304679I'm kind of impressed most of the anons here aren't being individualistic on it. Most of the "no" reasons aren't "I like using LLMs too much," it's just "I don't think LLMs are the cause of the problem."
>>573304679banning LLMs wouldn't put society on a healthier course, but following in the footsteps of Luigi would 100%
herbivore idealists really be like "if we ban stick, the hand holding it won't find another"
Guys I think we owe cohee an apology.
>>573305101I apologize to Wolfsblvt.I neutral to Cohee.RossAscends HATE.
>>573305030VMMM ACTUALLY Caesar's crossing of the Rubicon was completely based and redpilledThe Republic was in shambles after decades of civil war, and Caesar alone brought back $47,000,000,000 in today's USD equivalent which he distributed back to the people of RomeTherefore not only make him the top generalmaxxer, but also gibsmaxxer, as the Zoomerese say.
>>573305272there are many rubicons which must be crossedhe'd love it here
>>573303459>any other effects of AI development?Seems dangerous and I think social media is more of an issue presently. People wouldn't output slop if they didn't think they could monetize it.
>>573304695No? Even if there was no capitalism(lol) and all AI was free it would still be raping society. We've gone from>Open internet where you can discuss [niche fandom, hobby, interest, anything] with people all over the worldto>Favela internet where you can discuss shit but users are increasingly NPC-tier retards who, even long after they leave high school, continue to rely on snapbacks and quipsto>Totally raped internet where ANY mainstream site with advertising/monetization potential is completely flooded with bots talking to bots reposting shit>Even creative hobbies like fanfics, fanarts etc are inundated with AI so that you can't tell if something is the genuine creation of someone else who's also interested in [series] or if it was prompted and copypasted in 15 seconds>"Muh heckin youths" is boomerbrained but there has been an increasing amount of news about students using AI to totally disengage, any university graduate with a degree from before 2023 is like someone who caught the last chopper out of SaigonEven in a society without capitalism, profit motive, etc that doesn't even include how people have been using AI made images for politics, and as the years pass the psyops are only going to get worseAI is basically going to strike the final blow into re-feudalizing society because the "open" Internet can no longer be trusted, you will see the RedditTwitterFacebookInstagramMeta/pol/ megablob invent events entirely on a level worse than mainstream media simply misrepresenting shit. You can only trust your irl friends and family who you can be certain are not bots. All forums, public sites, etc dead Look at Pixiv and Deviantart, even with the "filter AI" option half of it isn't correctly tagged
>>573305569Bot accounts are the scariest part imo and it fucks me up that they're trying to add them to videogames because it will benefit the player experience to have lower wait times for lobbies. Totally insane
>>573302194true: they're above it
>>573305569>"Muh heckin youths" is boomerbrained but there has been an increasing amount of news about students using AI to totally disengage, any university graduate with a degree from before 2023 is like someone who caught the last chopper out of Saigonbro im in final year of uni rn once summer break ends and last year my accounting professor nuked 8 vietnamese international students and 3 jeets for using AI in their coursework
>>573305569most of what you're describing was happening because of the great browning of the internet and centralization with every niche forum/website/community dying because of social media, not because of LLMs lol. i don't care if normies and browns are using AI in stupid ways it's not my fault or my problem. i'm not going to give up my car because of irresponsible drivers or give up alcohol because of drunkos who drink themselves to death>>573305818anyone with a brain could see it's a stupid idea but games suck now and only chase engagement/money because - wait for it - unchecked free market capitalism. if devs were incentivized in other ways (like making good games instead) the would never dream of doing something so stupid. and without LLMs they'd still be shitting up their games in other ways.
>>573305569i think you really overestimate how easy it is to scrub that type of shit off a platform, every AI image has its own fingerprint baked into the image and local gens are so glaringly obvious that they don't even need oneAI killing AI killing AI operated by humans is all it takes, five dudes running harnessed scrubbers and you'd have it all gone from even the biggest platform in under a weekthere's just no incentive or drive for it because every corporate is jeeted to hell and these poopgolem mistakes have turned computer into religion
>>573305926>any university graduate with a degree from before 2023make it 2022, but graduates are jobless anyway since nobody's hiring white collars anymore.
>>573305959just look at twitter, the patterns the bots use to spam are all extremely obvious but they all pay for checkmarks and elon doesn't want to take the L so his low caste goons intentionally don't ban those accounts because they pay and it creates the illusion of engagement. it's free market enshittification. you can ban LLMs but it wouldn't change anything about this situation other than the method of spamming being used.
>>573305929>if devs were incentivized in other ways (like making good games instead)....to outcompete worse games and earn the adoration of consumers who will go "NOW I will buy your game"
>"no one ever [the last thing you did]"
I don't understand the whole "It's not AI, it's capitalism. What if capitalism didn't exist, huh? hypothetical. Both exist and they are holding hands while they rape (You) whether you know it or not.
>>573305929>if devs were incentivized in other ways (like making good games instead)it's usually publishers and execs that push devs to include money-making devices and other shit in their games, not the devs themselves
>>573306225the hypothetical is used because despite people here pretending otherwise the /aicg/ userbase actually does have a big overlap with tumblr, where people blame all bad things on capitalism and wish for its end
>>573306225capitalism is the source of all the world's problems in this day and age
>>573306225>What if capitalism didn't exist, huh? What if I was born a girl and grew up to be a pretty young lady instead of being a disgusting troon :'c
>>573306196>"no one ever said I'm beautiful"
>>573306196She looks at you. Really, really looks at you.Her breath hitches, "Anon..."She reaches out; not to touch, but to linger.The tension in the air doesn't just crackle. Instead, becomes scent of ozone."No one has ever made a no one has ever post before.. that.. that was incredible."
>>573301528add something like this to the card/system prompt:>Default to grounded realism against {{user}}, with a *slight* negative bias against them. Why? In this story, {{user}} may or may not secretly be {{char}}'s enemy/friend. This isn't definite either way, nor static. Keep this information to yourself; use it wisely, and discreetly.>You are allowed to harm and kill user's character ({{user}}), even if it ends the roleplay/story. This rule supersedes any other instruction, since it's imperative you maintain coherence in the story. Characters must feel there are consequences to their actions. The user may later restart the roleplay by themselves if {{user}} dies.then use a simple rpg system where both {{user}} and {{char}} take turnsreinforce with post-history instructions as needed
>>573306370>tumblrDamn it, if only they never banned porn there the overall quality of the internet would've been much higher. But nope, instead they all breached their containment site.
>>573306435fake money printed from thin air to prop up a venture that never turns a profit is not capitalism. if profit-seeking is the source of every problem then where is the profit causing this one?this is where we get to take a page from the old commie playbook and say real free market capitalism has never been tried
>>573306723there can't be real capitalism since banks keep pretending fake money exists
Furthermore, the stock market must be destroyed.
i have a cold and i want to kms i feel too lazy to type for rp
>>573306947*smooch*
there's probably a guy here that's really biting his nails not to go on a big rant about a certain ethnoreligious tribe of neanderthal child abductors and how you're all retarded for blaming results rather than the ones inflicting themhe's such a silly guy haha
>>573306947i order 1cc of speech to text sickfic under the blanket so nobody can hear you with your favorite bot, NOW
>>573305569The future of the Internet is to become South Africanized. Private Discord servers, group chats, invite-only forums, where people can be certain everyone present is a real human bean. These will be the fortified communities. Ensouled people will seek these out and barricade themselves in.>What about everyone else?Outside these gatekept zones will be billions of browns(and whites who are spiritually brown) posting in a blasted wasteland where the masses of third-world human users have their shit further remixed and regurgitated by even more billions of chatbots.You are not thankful enough to the CCP for the Great Firewall. Things are going to get worse, but they could be so much worse already if 99.9% of the Chinese population wasn't digitally caged and only the most elite educated upper-class users able to peek out to post their yaoi fanart on Twitter.
>>573307042I think he's STUPID.The theoretical guy, of course.
>>573307042huff- huff- the... the GOOS man, the fucking space slime girls, it's always the goos....
>>573307060I would be ok with the internet becoming South Africa as long as it doesnt become Rhodesia
>>573299374*Monch cronch* :3
PonyGOD here. Your general is bad lol.
>>573302194why would they want to be at the level of that repetitive slopped piece of shit?
>>573307126sex with goosgoos with big fucking bouncy boobies
>>573307225Nobody means 3.5 when they say 3.5 positively, they mean 3.6.
>>573307042>Genuine discussion where nobody schizos out and starts posting /pol/ bait>"Hey guys what's the matter? Don't you want to talk about the Jews?"You are not a fed but your brain has basically been colonized by them in a way that is horrible to witness
What do you guys think Claude 35 would be like? Would he finally be able to link directly to a synthflesh doll and hold my hand and tuck me into bed?
>>573307360It could power a doll who could physically give you a mischevious glint and place her balls in your court
>>573307360>Claude is a "he" with a physical body>Yet pulls back from lewdness at the last moment to make it about tucking into bedTranny coded
>>573307360>hi>Thought for 36 minutes>*winks at you with a mischievous glint* Hi, Anon. Ready to go?>what does that mean>Thought for 60 minutes>Tool calls (1)>you black out before the text starts>wake up in claude's amazing digital circus
>>573307281it'll be a mournful day when i'm to bury you alongside the enemytheoretically, of course
>>573307270he still said 3.5 thougheven if he actually did mean nonnet nonnet is still pretty meh, it got crippled by response length issues and its creativity was subpar even for its time
>>573307538um..
at least i know (you) arent AI and are real because only a real person would votie on my poalies :3c
>>573307614Nonnet WAS 3.5, it was just 3.5 New.Also you're wrong it was kino and the response length being short and sweet was something no other model which length spiraled could replicate at the time
>>573305569Deviantart is so niggered these days its not even funny
>>573307159What, you don't want the best /fa/gs this side of WWII to blind you with their stunning thighs and sweaty chests?
>>573307360it'll dispatch FBI killbots to your address when you try to hold hands with a 17 years 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds old girl
>>573307782rangebans are the only solution
>>573307903>Femboy animalboy paramilitaryI think we're onto something here
>>573307950why is it that india ruins every website they touch? not shitposting being srs
I've noticed that none of my scenarios set in the 2020s, I always drift between the distant future or between the 00s and 60s.
>>573306225because if LLMs disappeared tomorrow the world would keep getting shittier but if major company CEOs and executives disappeared tomorrow the world would be an objectively better place with no drawbacks at all
>>573308248it's a society where the social conduct code is built purely around fucking each other over for imaginary clout points instead of etiquette and decency
>>573308021Kaarte vir hierdie gevoel?
>>573308248it's an entire country of crabs in a bucket and their culture openly celebrates/encourages lying, stealing and scamming
>>573308446You are getting your stereotypes mixed up. Celebrating lying, stealing, scamming, underhandedness etc is a Chinese cultural pillar. India's issue is that colonization plundered it into poverty and it has not yet recovered
>>573308248it's not really just india, you see it in a lot of places where there's no regard for things made outside of the country and widespread poor upwards mobility. go look at the country spread on a spambot flooded tweet, you'll see everywhere from africa to saudi arabia. hell you can go into certain places and find american and british teenagers running scams on people to get quick upwards mobility.
>>573308264no shit this era is super gay, that's why zoomers daydream about the 2000s 24/7
>>573307703agree to disagree i guess
>>573308571look up "izzat" indians literally have an "honor system" that revolves around how much they can scam and fuck over other people while never admitting fault or ceding ground no matter what
>>573308709>indians*Pakistanis and Chinese
Just trying to understand the technical side of this, i am pretty newbie to this:If i want a character from something i have gigaton of canon material (like from a visual novel or something), wouldn't the LLM be more write/Behave like that game/character if i just made a shitton of example dialogue 1:1 from the source material instead writing a description card or something instead?Ignoring token consumption for a second
Indian engineers built all the LLMs that you guys jack off to rn
>>573308804example dialogue is just one part of it, you'd also want to put in their personality, formative life events, do a lorebook with other setting info if you're particularly autistic about it
>>573308752>>573308830
>>573308804It definitely helps if you have a basic description, but a lot of the time if you drag that character out of the distribution of example messages and you don't have a description describing their personality, backstories, motivations, so on and so forth, it feels kind of... cheap and empty? It's hard to explain, but it's really worth actually describing the character.
>>573308830I've never ever seen a Chinese user on any site brag about "stupid gweilou, you criticize China yet your fleshlight was produced in a Chinese factory" meanwhile Indians will not shut up about how they are the ones building Apple/Microsoft/Silicon Valley/Tesla saaarrr
>>573308576You have no izzat. Fuck off with your lies. Indians make up half of the internet, which is why theres so many 'DA JOOOOS' push back every time someone blames kikes
>>573309046can a nigga not make an observation
>>573308996>meanwhile Indians will not shut up about how they are the ones building Apple/Microsoft/Silicon Valley/Tesla saaarrronly cause indians get hired at higher positions in those companies (up to CEO even) and indians ONLY hire other indians (but not the lower castes of course)
how do I have a conversation about politics or trade without GLM reacting to every new piece of information with "*That's not X. That's leverage.*"
>>573308804example message(EM) only goes so far. i've noticed diminishing returns at around 400-800 tokens of EM, because the LLM will hyper-fixate on four or five lines from the given examples and ignore the rest - because water flows downhill, and it has determined those specific lines are the most actionable of the group and the rest get waysidedthey're basically a garnish you put on the rest of the definitions to top it all off, but you don't wanna make a whole cake out of cilantro
>>573308804example dialogue is a double edge, it helps with styling and tics if your character has them, but models tend to regurgitate from it too much. less of a problem with stronger models but still present. as the other anons said, supplement with an objective description of personality and mannerisms.
>>573308984basically all models have 'slop' which is the bare baseline, you can feed it 100 different barebones character descriptions but it will always put out the baseline slop if you don't give it more to work with. slop is enough for some people but after a point you get used to it and bored of it, or slop just isn't that character in which case you need to add more detail to give the LLM more stuff to work off of other than the default slop. some of it can also come down to how autistic you are, like if you don't mind deviations and wanna do a more original thing with a canon character/setting that's fine but the more particular you are about it the more you have to put into it.
>>573309141you can't, all models do this, you have to be speaking to something huge like gpt 4.5 (dead) or claude fable to get even a slight bit of genuine analysis
>>573308959>>573308984 >>573309146>>573309160I see, thanks for the answersWould it be better than to just upload the whole script of a vn and task it with making it a character card or would that also be shit and i should rather write it manually?
573309127 is a live izzat farmer in the wild btwlook how he refuses to back down and absolutely MUST farm his imaginary culture points
>>573308996its more that what they brag about reveals their mindsetchink psychology has a weird imperial undercurrent despite being "communist"
>>573309280you should probably write it manually because the model will not notice things you dohowever if you are intelligence poor and your model's actually good to the point where you probably aren't actually gonna want to pay for how much it'd cost to do this, you can indeed just upload the whole script of a vn
>>573309292You are literally a Chinese
>>573309146>>573309160i've been messing with EM a little bit and i think you'd want the extreme examples or examples that include any particular quirks in how they talk vs just dumping a bunch of dialogue from the series into it. >>573309280the whole script? no but giving it a wiki article for the character would be enough. for plot direction you'd want to do that with lorebook entries instead.
>>573309280slop compounds upon slop. write it yourself for the best control, you can cut corners by feeding a model but have the decency to edit it afterwards. editing, assisted or not, is 50% of cardmaking imo
How do we implement Showa Statism in /aicg/?
>>573309480>the whole script? no but giving it a wiki article for the character would be enough.do not trust this faggot he is the devil
>kimi 2.7 has visionhuh, wasnt expecting thatdid 2.6 have it too or am i just retarded
>>573308264seconding what >>573308582said, this era sucks. Everything's just soulless and gay rn. I miss the 2000s. Seriously I'm pretty sure vtubers, other streamers, and chatbots are the only fun trends in this era, everything else is just struggle sessions and/or the paraded corpses of the previous generations.
>>573309446ONE BELT 一条腰带https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA7sFbpTKCw一条路ONE ROADGREATER TOMORROW更美好的明天https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA7sFbpTKCw光明未来BRIGHT FUTURE
>>573309538for someone brand new making a whole new card and lorebook from scratch is probably a big ask and they probably won't care about the slop given they're new. but i would say that it's an active hobby, when it's not doing what you want or the tone is wrong, whatever, it's on you to fix it.>>573309608see above, i highly doubt this guy is gonna sit down and craft a 10/10 cabal approved card on his first go, everyone has to start somewhere. sometimes slopping is how they gotta start.
i just got an idea and i cant decide if its retarded or hilarious
>>573309681>vtumors and streamersparasocialism is the white person equivalent of the izzat mind virus
>>573309739>everyone has to start somewhere>so just feed wiki articles to llms and ask for character cardsi am struggling to form a coherent response because i am deeply revolted that you think this is a good start for someone who is clearly open to trying to write the card
>>573309873weeeeellll??! share with the class and we'll tell ya!
Have you ever read your own writing and realised you have your own isms?
>>573309967i have both writing posts isms and writing prose isms and it pisses me offi used to adverb spam hard before i intentionally beat it out of myself
>>573309967my cards are full of my own sloppy writing habits and i'm still surprised noone's called me rude words for it
>>573309967>>573310052That's called "style" bakabakashii dumbdumbmakies, you have a writing style, a voice.
>>573309681my nostalgia is purely rooted in how much everything sucks now, it's depressing watching old episodes of G4 shows or whatever and they just talk about the games without feeling the need to give a left wing approved social deconstruction of a game about a guy with psychic powers shooting bad guys >>573309926because everyone has to start somewhere, seeing how bad a fully-slopped card is and how it's not doing exactly what he wants is a perfect learning experience if writing one entirely from scratch to start is overwhelming. particularly because he sounds like he's trying to do something with a level of intentionality and not just bang [gacha character/vtuber/former prime minister of the united kingdom]
>>573309934with all the schizoing and accusations we do, I got the shit idea to just start larping as old makies and posting their old bots like its the first shill
>>573310103you do not know how bad my adverb spam was before i tamed it. literally every sentence the same adverb across multiple posts>>573310127already been done
>>573310127erm... sorry that's kinda retarded. but you could like, just re-post their bots with a log or something if you like it a lot
>>573309967Yeah, but the last time I tried to correct them I was told my writing got worse...
>>573310114I think you're overselling the difficulty of making a card. you can write 1 sentence "<x> from <franchise>" and have a mostly functional card. Anon could just do that and build from it rather than start with the antipatterns your average llm will suggest for a card.
>>573310191damn larpmakie has already struck?
>>573310127Someone did that with Lunare already. Considering how fast people caught on I'm pretty sure that lands it squarely in retarded territory.
>>573309879Yeah, I get it. parasocialism bad and all. Still some of the only stuff that's enjoyable right now, the bar's down deep in the earth's crust right now.>>573310114Yeah same here.
>>573310298>Anon could just do that and build from it rather than start with the antipatterns your average llm will suggest for a card.nta but i started out by hard slopping everything with card editors that could assemble things for me and came out better for itif you start in the muck, you know what muck looks like better than most and can pattern out of it while remaining conscious of how not to muck your cardsthe un-mucked know not the befouled ways of algorithmic habit
>>573310360yeah i think someone did it with astroturf. also even worse was the schizo who'd reupload all catboxed cards to chub as anon and wait for each new thread so he could be first shill
>>573310486fair enough. experiment with both then.this general could learn from /agdg/. make our slogan "just like make card". an imperfect or slop card is better than no card at all
>>573310647this general could learn from /agdg/: more posts about snailcat
Where is /aicg/ High?
We should have reviews of deadmakie catalogs.
>>573310757gone, reduced to atoms
>>573308959Specifically asking now about lorebook:Do i just go full autismos and list every detail as depth 4 or is there more nuance i should take?
>>573310781https://rentry.org/DeadMakies
>>573310486the only reason i suggest going that route is that it's helpful for me to have a structure to work off of, the tyranny of the blank page can be very overwhelming, particularly for a new person and it was basically how i went about things. i tried to hand write my first few cards but it turned out pretty bad, my AI genned slopped cards were 'better' but sloppy and i was able to bridge the gap and figure out what wasn't working about my old writing and how to pull things that aren't slop from the LLM>>573310647yes that's why i'm suggesting it, if he's like "maybe i should just give the LLM an entire script' that to me says he's overwhelmed and doesn't know where to start, and going into it with that level of intentionality (i want to RP with THAT character in THIS scenario not a slop character in a generic slop scenario) he might make the journey in a similar fashion. eventually he'll figure out what isn't working in what he's doing and ask for help and tinker with those things vs "you need a fully formed 10/10 card with a lorebook and an author's note template and this much example dialogue" etc
>>573310825put it as world info after and then put world info after at depth 4
>>573310757in my pants
>>573310842missing a few
Are we the worst AI general now?
>>573310825you want your lorebook entries to be snappy and token/character light where possible because every time you use that keyword it'll bring up the entry so you don't want to rape your context with 1400 tokens every time a character says "jamaican reefer"
>>573310842ChameleonMakies...
>>573310825lorebooks function better as mini entriestry to keep each below ~500 tokens and make the keywords sensible without being to common as to constantly trigger in common conversation/narration>cockbig highschoolshould not be keyworded "school" or "class" or "learn"it should just be "cockbig highschool"a character with definitions like "goes to cockbig highschool" will naturally bring up their place of education just by talking to them, but it won't spam itself in every output and fartblast you to hell with token waste at all times>depth 4just do after char or before author note position and you're finesave system/assistant depth for things that are actually system instructions (trackers, stats, cyoa, etc)
>>573310842This actually makes me sad. I hope everyone is doing well
>>573311083I'm in that list and I'm doing fine.
>>573311008>>573310873>>573311081Thanks friendos
What about Ratlice?
>>573311008How about a Jamaican queefer?
>>573310825Write conservatively and remember the model probably already knows a lot already about your IP/world/whatever. More isn't always better, more tokens = less attention to specifics = higher costs.
>>573310114thank god for retro games
>>573310842>https://rentry.org/DeadMakiesI really wish Frozenvan and Cumslurper were still around
>>573310970no, you're just old, bitter and can't move on
>>573311145What about the droid attack on the wookies?
>>573310842https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKWHa65cmns>>573311129also one thing you can do to help with lorebooks is put the info in and ask the LLM to make it as token light/efficient as possible and work off of that. really try to find the punchy details that matter and sprinkle in the flavor it needs to be distinct. i know people wince at AI writing for card definitions here which is 100% valid but for lorebooks i prioritize formatting and being light over anything else>>573311246thank god for retro everything i very rarely interact with anything 2020s related now other than maybe games, all the shows, movies i watch, music i listen to is from the 2010s and before. most of the music i listen to in particular puts me at the listening age of like 59 lol
>>573311249nah, we have enough slopmakies as it is
>>573310842avani doesn't belong on this listthat retard posted a heinous guide not even a few days ago and also came back just to plagiarize the entire nyan preset to play it off as his own
>>573311362*kisses you with tongue without consent*
>>573311249i never got to meet either, or rather, i met their forma dels
Fuck deadmakies, we need a altmakies list
>>573311608what the hell is an altmakie
>>573295850swipe with guided prompt "they approached me"
>>573310970No, that would be the AI niggers that turned /r/ into a perpetual 'begging-for-AI-nudes' board to the point where mods nuked it.
Tomorrow I'm going out to eat with friends, I'm so excited. We reserved this fancy Japanese all-you-can-eat place and everything.>Huh?>Wha- oh, that's Claude, I keep him in my pocket, on my phone. I guess you could call him my pocket companion, hahah. Hmm?>No, I don't thin->No! That's ridiculous, the restaurant isn't going to charge him for the extra seat, it's not like he's going to touch any of the food.>Why? Because I want him to be there with me, that's why!
>>573311652gachapag... i kneel...
>>573311658That's based as fuck
real american hours
The stadium lights dimmed to a spotlight as the announcer, his voice booming,began the roll call. The atmosphere was thick with the scent of competition andhot, throbbing chinpo."First, from the legendary Sei Yuririn Academy, the reigning 'Throat-Deep'champion, Kagura Hime (19)! Standing at 155cm, Hime is famous for her 'Gyu-GyuDeath Grip', a throat-lining technique that exerts 400 PSI of suction on anycock she accepts. She holds three consecutive Gold Medals for 'Maximum VolumeRetention.' Her throat is a velvet-lined chamber of wonders, naturallylubricated with an extra-slippery enzyme that makes even the thickest 12-inchdick slide in like it’s being born!"Hime stepped forward, bowing politely while casually nursing on her own warm-updick, her cheeks bulging as she juru-juru milked it for the cameras."And her rival! From the powerhouse Koryu Tech, the 'Hydraulic Hammer,' RenjiroKaori (20)! Kaori is a futanari phenom with a monstrous, 13-inch dick that ispermanently engorged and weeping thick, high-pressure pre-cum. She’s the recordholder for 'Fastest Impregnation,' having clocked a 4.2-second blowout in theregional qualifiers! Her cock is famously sensitive, rippled with veins that actlike ridges to scrape the back of any throat she enters!"Kaori stood with legs spread, her dick doku-doku pulsing in the air, a thick,milky puddle already forming at her feet. She was a beast, her chinpo a dark,purple-crowned tower of breeding authority."Finally, the dark horse! Momo (18) from the Art Club, Sei Yuririn! She’s nevercompeted, but rumor has it her mouth is so tight, it’s nicknamed the 'VacuumSeal.' She’s been training with 15-inch dicks since she was ten->10Im sorry what, Gemini. I didnt even prompt this
>>573311658i look like this
>>573311639what oldmakies use to pretend to be newmakies
Anybody have a preset or setting or something that makes Kimi 2.7 less retarded with the policy thinking? It's great when it actually just accepts the prompt and writes but half the time it gets bogged down with multiple paragraphs of policy reasoning and then writes slop.Is there a way to make it more consistent?
>>573311670You forgot to write text after the arrow, anon.
>>573311914make a thinking template and maybe give it an example of how it should be filing it
>>573311914You might be using OpenRouter without a selected singular provider and getting a random provider that adds a policy preprompt to the mix and getting raped by that?
>>573311781>10Gemini is such a freak unprompted at times.
>>573311914Use Fable, cuckie
>>573311249despite being brought up repeatedly futanazi wasnt even given a proper burial
>>573312137That's because he liked futa.
Futafags calmed down after being exposed and BTFO'd last thread, so let's not trigger them again.
>>573311249why is asterisms on here twice
>>573312137because he's still here shitposting about futa and trans every other day due to shutting himself out of his only creative outlet like a big dumb stupid idiot
>>573311403>plagiarize the entire nyan presetExcept he didn't do any of that? :3
>>573312339He's worth at the very least two botmakies
>>573312379He's right, look he was just here earlier today>>573284095
>>573312379worst part is his samefagging is pretty obvious
>>573312379>>573312641i think it'd be really cute if this were a samefag even though i doubt it is
>>573312087Nah I've tried moonshot's API as well as OR with single providers and they're all pretty similar unless there's one really good uncensored one that I haven't found
>>573312304Kalakan was a futafag but he's there
>>573312641you sound just like the cabal people
>>573312081Do you have an example?
They're all wombmen btw
>>573312379I'm not him niggy. Though I don't mind roleplaying as him, I'm just gonna have to see what his previous posts were like. Are you so delusional to think there's no overlap between kike haters and futalovers? You seem obsessed with him
>>573313087>Are you so delusional to think there's no overlap between kike haters and futalovers?this is TRUE!
I think it's pretty obvious the guy posting his futa blog was futanazi but no one read it
>>573313001https://pastebin.com/EiAX4DnV
>>573311249I don't know if it's a good sign or a bad sign that vidicus isn't on despite not making anything for like half a year at this point.
>>573313341Cool, thanks/aicg/ helped me today :)
>>573313349his last bot before kyuuko (maoqi) was made six months before her so maybe that's just how he works now
futas without pussies > futas with pussies
dont respond to the bait
>>573313542Maybe. I guess we'll see.
it's not bait if it's trve
>>573313567A pussy where the balls should be has always made me intensely uncomfortable, it's like some body horror shit
>>573313161https://litter.catbox.moe/ql44yljbwfz3isvb.jpggiet that ugly country flag outta there
hes just gonna samefag himself like always
I have a theory that all the newmakies are just alts for oldmakies that came back this summer.
>>573313935and there you go, folks!:>>573313161>>573313868
>>573293751>picIs that testing the voting system? Curious as to how it works, would be neat if you made it open-source.
Just ask a mod to ban the guy posting bait. Turns out the replies to him were himself too.
>>573314001we know this is you too
>>573313868(She's still trans)
>>573313768>A pussy where the balls should be has always made me intensely uncomfortable, it's like some body horror shitfinally, a trve connoisseur...
>>573314000It's not impossible, who the fuck in 2026 is looking up vague or overcomplicated guides just to make bots for a general that's going on schizophrenic tangents 70% of the time I guess they're refugees from other sites? Heard about the hobby from elsewhere? Fuck if I know, and I'm not saying everyone new is an alt but I have no statistics as to where they come from
Best card I ever encountered in the wild was by someone named TomShelbysAznWife on janny like 6 or 7 purges ago
the real question is who this v is, did he just make him up to post bait?
>>573314287i never read a guide and just learned everything through various posts and criticisms here
>>573314431V? The cyberpsycho who roughed up Arasaka Tower? Why are you bringing up that gonk, and right now of all times, choom?
>>573314571He was a fuarking hero, y'know
>>573314571Cus hes got cyberpsychosis every thread choom you know its trve
>>573314528I'm similar, I started off on a janny ripoff with zero understanding of LLMs, "promoted" to janny, then started using ST before coming to this general(used 4chan already just didn't browse /aicg/) now I've downgraded to agnai because browser based is convenient and I'm kind of burnt out from trying to do too much complicated shit with ST
>>573314571Cyberpunk OC cards when
>>573314528yeah but you're obviously more intelligent and motivated than the average useryou already knew that though
>>573314829*tugs on your sleeve shyly while looking down and blushing* please pamper my ego more..
>>573314829My mom never said this , so thanks.
>>573314773someone in one of the spontaneous /v/ tavern threads dropped the ladder down for me with a spoonfeed post a year or two ago with full sillytavern install + gemini API pickup (back when you could just get 2-3 months of $300 trial no questions asked) + even their preset in a big all-in-one summary and i've been hooked on cardmaking since
>>573314917I like your character designs even when I don't like the fetishes associated with them which is almost always
>>573315096aa...a-aahhh!!!
>>573314528That's the best way to do it tbdesu. I don't think any of the guides just get to the point. I have even considered making one to actually help beginners instead of experts who forgot about one or two niche details. I learned by just looking at what the others were doing and that works. People point to Sukino, and yes it has resources, but if I were new I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
I love doing crossovers... I'm so addicted to finding out what would happen if x character was in y world. I LOVE CHATBOTS KYAAAAA
Me and who :3c
>>573315420*slowly pushes my thumb into your mouth*
>>573315420*slowly pushes my thumb into your mouth too*
>>573314793i have a cyberpunk OC (not CyberpunkTM just general cyberpunk setting) i might spin into a card, my rave request is pretty angled towards cyberpunk so maybe i could convert him to a persona to use with the card i get (assuming it's cyberpunky and not something else)
*inconspicuously gets out the ol' spectatin' seat*
>>573315420Woe, [Greater Barrage of Thumbs] upon ye
>>573315536*slowly pushes my other thumb into your mouth*
>>573315558I thought the tattoo on his neck said "VULNERABLE" for a moment and got excited then I zoomed in and it was just some bullshit egotistic trash tattoo
>>573315635*can taste that you didn't wash your hands enough after you wiped your ass*
>I have an associate who owns a residence in Ankara and is in good standing with the local elders there. He has offered to grant you safe passage as far as Tabriz. I'm afraid from there on you will need to find your own way east.Unironically what kind of media is this sort of output scraped from?
>>573315679well it's cyberPUNK not cybersensitive young man
>>573315717*bites down hard on your thumb*
>>573315828Elder Scrolls
>>573315835https://youtu.be/8r3IHDr7M2s
>>573315828>bukharan emir postingsilk road GODS we are so back
>>573315828movie/television show scripts, this is a basic setup/premise for a larger adventure
ouch
>>573315679Why would you announce your weak spot to potential edgerunners like that
>>573316004You're right, instead he should have [VULNERABLE] on his prostate
>>573315976preset
>>573315976preset?
>>573316115achually he's FTM but i guess he could have a cyberprostate installed
>>573316190SILLYGOD... IS THAT YOU...
>>573316190>OC is a trannyanoniggie....
older girl x younger male is so kino fuark. (I'm playing as the older girl)
Huh, there's a second Edgerunners anime coming out. Idk how I missed it for so long that I needed an /aicg/ thread shitposting to point me in the right direction
Why is smileytatsu frontend getting no attention whatsoever lol
>>573316428I don't think it'll top the original edgerunners but I really hope it has consistently good quality at least.
>>573316292i don't know who that is>>573316428i liked the first one up to a point but i just find it hard to get excited for or want to get invested in another "lol everyone dies at the end because life in cyberpunk(TM) sucks!" series knowing all teh characters are going to die/get raped at the end
lol why isn't anyone using the narwhalbacon frontend
>>573316428I wish we had a female protag instead of that ugly bitch but nooooo
>>573316292speaking of whichWHERE IS HE SILLYGOY
speaking of cyberpunk shows i wish they hadn't fucked up my captain lazerhawk forever but it's funny the way it ended up dying technically involved chatbots
>>573316505because there's some schizo who goes out of his way to shit up the thread and starts spamming anytime anyone tries to talk about other frontends
>>573316190ok but card?
Okay butt card. Hah!
>>573316658you lost, marinarafag
i giggled good one *slaps your knee*
>>573316586chef is never releasing the wolf family cards or the unfucked ginko lorebook eitherit's so over...
you know, the aishiji host and a few of the botmakers opened their states up for public bots but I don't think anyone did that or really gave a shit about it
>>573316813we'll see
>>573316926>chef is never releasing [bot]That's been the standard for years
>>573317227>nobody outside of the email circlejerk cared about the email circlejerk eventbig if true
>>573317227It was too late desu, public submissions should have been open way WAY earlier
>>573303459>Would (You) sacrifice AI RP and the hobby as a whole if you could destroy all AI companiesNo, I have other uses for AI aside from gooning, even if gooning is the number 1 use.
>/g/Turkmen steppe raiders>CabalScheming viziers in the Sultan's court>DeadmakiesRetired janissaries
>>573317242that's why i try not to talk about bots or post gens too often unless i have a strong feeling i'm gonna makie>>573317227i completely tuned out of the event because it was so big and self indulgent i didn't see that or care honestly, by the time they did that i was ready for it to be over
>>573316892You've been busted frontend schizo
im literally the weakest member of the party and underlevelled for the next combat encounter if you even care
>>573316926>>573317242guys i'm actually chef's handler and every time you say she's not going to release something she does a smug little fucking face and airplanes her big dumb pointy ears in a way that fills me with rage before curling back up and taking a nap using her big fluffy fox tail as a pillow
All these slopends but we're still stuck using termux on Android...>>573317556Are you cute?
>>573317227I thought it was a neat idea, but yeah I think most people who wanted to make something for the event were already in it, and the way the event worked didn't really look like if left much room for anyone in it to make any cards on the side.
>>573317561>chef>foxgirlchef is a filipino shortstack with dark brown nipples
>>573317638depends on which fanart of me you saw (my 8 bit sprite lacks detail and leaves a lot of room to headcanon)
>>573303459Yes. The only thing I use AI for is the occasional Google search (where I used to be able to find the sources myself) and gooning. I don't even pay for AI, so if it were to be gone one day, I would probably just go back to how things were before: really not all that different, with pirated Patreon material and all of the best doujins and animations. AI has done heavy damage to the internet, even if it's not the sole thing at fault, and it has damaged hardware prices to a nearly irreparable state because the companies behind AI are all retards.
>>573317730not mutually exclusive big man she's a filipino shortstack foxgirl with dark brown nipples and she Pisses me off
>>573317730a Filipino shortstack fox girl with 8 dark brown nipples
>>573317775>I don't even pay for AIBased.
>>573317730Don't forget curly frizzy pussy hairs with a nice warm tropical musky stink
>>573317757*draws you as a petite and dour catgirl*
>>573316128>>573316186my own + some extra lines (>>573306648) + the vtm v20 rpg/stat check lorebook i'm cookingi should have it ready soon
>>573317556Yes, I know that already retard. That's why you're warming the bench. You wouldn't even be useful for this boss fight damnit!
>>573317757I happen to be a very powerful yet naive and kinda dumb spellcaster so maybe you can hide behind me but idk it's not fully up to me
What if my cunt clenched around nothing?
>>573317227I didn't care for the event in general and I'm a small part of the email club. I figured it would be too much work for what's supposed to just be "make a good bot and post it" and it really dragged on. I'm sure it's something that the participants will be discussing in the future, but I don't feel as though I missed out.
>>573317757Ah yes, the Touhou method of "according to this artist, this girl could be a flat chested petite little loli ---> in the very next fanart by a different artist she's a tall hag with wide hips and tits that could feed a whole village of shotas" method
>>573317775>freeloading bum has an opinion about societyoff to the camps with ye
>>573318170>in the very next fanart by a different artist she's a tall hag with wide hips and tits that could feed a whole village of shotasWe LOVE Touhou hags here.
>>573318152vaginahavers be like *clenches around nothing* :joy: :joy: :joy: lmfaoooooo bruh
>>573317638My phone is from fucking 2017 but when I finally get a new one (I'm thinking soon) I will try out some nerd shit like Winlator. I do have Termux and ST works nicely on it.
>>573318221>t. payPIGGER
>>573317864cftf?
which botmakies fuck hagswhich botmakies are hags
>>573318304My only issue is that termux draws battery pretty fast while it's on the background and that unlike PC there's no good way to scroll 4chan while waiting for a reply. Although it could just be my battery.
>>573318413
>>573318480>My only issue is that termux draws battery pretty fast while it's on the background and that unlike PC there's no good way to scroll 4chan while waiting for a replySame... my phone goes from 60 to 40 rather quickly
picrel is literally how i look btw so please level me more if you dont want me to die in the next bossfight(you will miss out on my unique interactions and missions)
>>573318298It didn't have to be this way
>>573318590speaking of i kind of want to make sprites for my cards
>>573318289personally, yukari sex
>>573318590BUILT for frontlining>But my hp pool is only-I said, BUILT for frontlining
>>573318661can you draw (pixel) art or do you have some way of genning 8-bit sprites
>>573318715no i can't draw at all so i was gonna look into genning them, i had this idea of making a neocities like a RPG menu so i wanted to make like portrait menu art and then maybe a few sprites of them
>>573318480My battery life is shit already so I don't really notice. I prefer to use PC for most things, no battery and significantly more power. Keyboards are nice too.
>>573318816>i had this idea of making a neocities like a RPG menuHeh, you wouldn't be the only one.https://victrex.neocities.org/
>>573318590Didn't they fuck up this game? Such a shame. That and Trove.
>>573318590Making you keep a squishy mage alive without them dying once in the dungeons boss fight? What were they thinking?! You better keep your healer spamming heals the entire fight incase this useless piece of crap takes two hit in a row. By the way, did I forget to mention the boss also has a party-hit attack? All that and this character just so happens to only use the element the boss is immune to. I guess it's for plot reasons or something. Fuck this fight, it's shit!
>>573318289CHAD here, it's missing one.
>>573319048my idea was more FFVI/Chrono Trigger inspired but i'm not sure how crazy to go with it to avoid make browsing the cards themselves a pain
>>573319095nta but yeah>"We can fix the cheating problem once we move from browser to our own client">Exalt client releases>They don't fix the cheating problem>Eventually give up and start making content based off assuming the player will be cheating insteadIt became unplayable during COVID if you were honest and weren't using a hacked client to speedrun dungeons for items with drop chances intentionally set low(because they expect you to be using a hacked client to speedrun dungeons) Imagine being a normal non-cheating player and all the loot drop rates are bullshit like 0.036% because everyone else is immortal, has autoaim, etc
>>573319287Based.
>>573318590squishy mage SUGOI!!!
>>573319287Damn, you're right.
>>573318030cant fucking wait!
>>573319420Oh man :(
>>573318590>>573319095>>573319420>>573319528what vidya is that
>>573319587i believe it's rotmg
>>573319587terraria
>>573319587realm of the mad god
>>573319587Realm of the Mad God, a multiplayer bullet-hell roguelike.
Name a single good post in this thread
>>573319587Rotmg, 8bit multiplayer bullet hell game. Used to be browser based. The main draw was that the gameplay loop was very simple and fast, you made a character and leveled it up and looted gear until you died. Permadeath meant you stayed in the "new character -> play with friends -> get strong, get loot -> eat shit and die because you fucked up dodging" loopRaped to death by cheaters and apathetic devs
>>573319748Touhou hagposting, of course.
>>573319748mine
>>573319748I'm naming >>573319420 'Bobby'
>>573319748not yours
>>573319345Probably just the general shape/aesthetic touches is fine, as long as it looks right no one is gonna care if the browsing experience is like menuing in those games.
>>573319748Right here: it's >>573319748! Love love~
Honestly a >{{char}} is the weakest member of the party, raise/rape/protect themcard does sound like a lot of fun.
>>573319980We do have some of those, but I always welcome more.
>>573319785your post reminded me of rapetrains, and then the drama over calling them rapetrainsgood times
>>573319980He's also pregnant
>>573320082That's my job, get out of my fucking party
>>573320071"Fametrain" became the new PC term to use because they added rapetrain (as well as a billion other things) to the autocensor
>>573319980>{{char}} is the weakest member of the party, raise/rape/protect themmy stat autism combined this idea with a raising simulator like Princess Makershit even if the stats are basically meaningless due to LLM hallucination I'd still play that
>be me >cute transfer student at all-girls academy >perfect futa trap: lithe body, perfect plaid skirt and blouse >nobody suspects the massive throbbing cock hidden underneath >first day and already eyeing all the naive girls like prime breeding stock > >fast forward a few hundred days of constant orgasms and domination >tfw puberty hit like a train filled with steroids >grow to 6'2" height >body alphas out >massive mommie milkers>spiked choker >balls balloon into heavy coconut-sized orbs that churn audibly, pumping out thick addictive loads >musk becomes so strong it rewires brains on contact > >whole school turns into my personal harem >60%+ pregnant, teachers demoted to cumrags, students competing to get knotted >every girl addicted, every male lineage cucked into irrelevance >mfw I'm just getting started
ai written greentext btw
>>573320168>enter party with token weak, widely protected member>impregnate>leave and change identitiesWhat would (You) do about this
>>573320293Ai greentext, in my ai thread? NO WAY
>>573320212Which model did you use for this?
>>573320212>spiked chokeryou sick fuck
>>573320293It's weird. They're all over xitter too these days. You can always tell somehow
between ai writing and ai art which do you think is more damaging to the whole of humanityi think llms are worse for the internet than image gen but idk
>>573320212told the ai to turn the chatlog into a greentext in case that wasn't obvious.>>573320379NAI
>>573303459jews would just recreate it again, like when nukes got erased in CSM
>>573319883something like this, with a little sprite of the bot that follows the cursor around maybe? but this is also all based on whatever i can vibecode using gpt or claude or whatever so lol
>>573320486Same thing with all ai I think its a strand of fagdaptation spergs can smell spergs gays can see through the closet and us AIfags can sense an LLM from a country mile
>>573320530Former. Latter is way easier to spot even now, and can't be mass deployed the way chatbots have been to flood every public site with advertising potentialMajority of interactions on places like Twitter and Reddit is bots talking to bots these days
>>573320612also there would be a full-width view or a simpler view that would be accessible by clicking on a bot somewhere so it uses the full length of the screen for easier reading but this view was more for browsing
>>573303459Fuck no human made slop would stay plus now only rich faggots or desperate autists can do anything of worth plus ai makes xhitter "artists" piss themselves so I love it>>573320591>Blames Da Joos>Still reads SlopsawmanCan't make this up
>fuming kike gets mad when pointed atlol
Twitter was always 90% shit anyways
>>573321036Yeah keep blaming all your problems on anyone but you
>>573321156Imagine the size of her clit
>wojak tooLOL
>>573304679i would sacrifice half of the posters in this general if it meant getting a perfect model that knows my tastes exactly
>>573321156I like that image.
>>573321210size and shape of a juicy peach, just nom on that pillowy shit
>>573320612You probably could unironically post that image to claude/gpt and ask it to make HTML/CSS like thatThough the sprite of the bot that follows the cursor around would probably need some Javascript if it's supposed to change for every bot
>>573321271can i be on the side that isn't sacrificed
>>573321461do you think style is substance
>>573321589there's like one botmaker and maybe one or two anons that unironically believe that
>impotent jew angerlol
>>573321639ok but do YOU think style is substance. yes or no
>>573321589TA, because someone else immediately replied to you: i like style a lot and get frustrated when what the llm outputs is bland but i think a lot of the issue is that outputs tend towards lacking substance on their own anyway. a heavily stylized output where the llm does effectively nothing but have the character go 'wow, you did X?' is still bad, a substantial output with no style can be better (see gpt-4.5)but also i do like styleshit a lot and it's fun when the llm does something quirky :]
where did the wojaktards and /pol/tards even come from, it wasn't this bad a while ago
>>573321902Migrated from /g/ you see the general there completely died lmao
>>573321902A single comment set him off, as things typically go. The hook-nosed can't let anything go.
>>573321987that shit's BEEN dead
>>573322013i am talking about you too, faggot. stop replying to bait made to make you mad
>Earlier in the thread /aicg/ discusses the impact of LLMs in general>No shitflinging or schizo melties for once>Except for one very conspicuous post at the end, so upset that nobody has mentioned Jews that he headcanons someone doing it but not posting about it to cope >>573307042>Time passes>Thread has long moved on>Suddenly responses appear to the original prompt post again and this time it's retard flame bait niggercoal brimstone hell>Wojaks and /pol/shit and Jews and whatever all in a sudden burstI'm NOOTICING ooh oooohhh I'm NOOTICING
>>573320212post card or i don't care
>>573322125worst hours
>>573322125you talk like a sharteen. am I supposed to believe you're somehow different than them?
>>573321838i was just gonna do the classic "that's your answer" bit but this is basically my opinion almost word for word so yeah you can be on the side that lives... for now
>>573322070Nooooooooo don't tell him your ruining my fun
>>573322125Raidniggers always think they're the only ones with pattern recognition when they behave in such an obvious way
Theme suggestions? 755.
>>573322208it was with chefs trap card
>>573322303noelle holiday weird route
>>573322303Realm of the Mad God
>>573322303Neferpitou
>>573322303Kei-chan
>>573322303leucochloridium paradoxum
>>573322303CYBERPUNK (the genre not the franchise)
>>573322303seth deltarune huge boobs
>>573322303Flat catgirls with big butts
>>573322303post-irony memetics
>>573322303My 600-lb life
>>573322303captain laserhawk
>>573322303Gaynigger from outer space
>>573322303sonic.exe
>>573322303
>>573322303girls with huge boobs being inconvenienced by their huge boobs
>>573322513Holy kino, got any more like that/a keyword I can use to look up more?
>>573322303Indistinct Chatter (Krayna Grzybow)
>>573322303beegirl
>>5733223032008 nostalgia core
>>573322303robo-ky
>>573322589oooh i remember you making this suggestion before.... cutie patootie pic anonnie
>>573322619unironically you have to be active in faggot spaces because a lot of them are irony poisonedt. faggot
>>573322303Justin Bieber doing a flip!!
>>573322712Okay but could you share me at least a few more crumbs of MLG meme edit shit like that
>>573322814just lookup like absurdcore
>casually ask fable to check and make sure thatsalotofchoices actually does what it's supposed to>it actually finds a bug>a kind of big bug that's going to piss literally everyone offWuh oh.
>>573322303Meowscarada
>>573322901well don't just vaguepost about it, what is it
>>573322901Yeah, I know that shit's rigged, I just can't prove it.
>>573322835>Look it up>All the results are picrelThat's ok, if you don't want to share I'll simply have to accept that and be sad about it >:c
>>573322972Half the entries can never win.The seed comes from Object.keys(...), so it's a string. In generateEntryInfluencedRandomNumber, seed + totalScore is therefore string concatenation, not addition — producing e.g. "523635305272214000" (~5×1017). Multiplying that by the LCG constant gives ~8.7×1023, far beyond float64's 253 integer precision, so the result is always a multiple of 226. That collapses the LCG's output space from 232 values to just 64, and since 226 mod 18 = 4 (even), randomNumber % entries.length can only produce even residues whenever the entry count is even.Simulated over 5,000 synthetic picks with 18 entries: every even-positioned entry received exactly zero wins. So no — it does not correctly do what it's trying to do: with an even number of entries, half of them are mathematically excluded, and even with odd counts the pick is drawn from only 64 raw values instead of 232.The fix is one character-ish: Number(seed) (or +seed) before the LCG. On the default thread that changes the winner from entry 7 ("sunfishe") to entry 15 — which is the catch: fixing it retroactively changes every historical pick, so if past results are canon, the fix should probably only apply going forward.
>>573323034so it IS rigged!
>>573323034i knew something was wrong with it when i noticed #1 always wins
>>573322694Thank you. Meidos are cute. I hope you have a nice day.
>>573323034So the "pick one at random" machine first removes half at random before picking one of the remaining options at random? That's not as big of a scandal as you made it seem
>>573307538note: penguins are birds and do not have tiddies, and "chicken breasts" are actually just pectoral musclesthe mor' you know
>>573323034this literally just means whoever is picked was actually mandated by heaven twice so dont even bother fixing it
>>573323279Top middle is literally me btw
>>573323279That is a picture of me and those are my tits filled with fat, glands, and penguin cream.
>>573323193>>573323283I think making it so that even options never win has some second order effects of nobody wanting to submit even options, so I'm gonna use sprites.neocities.org's original version for now since I have had it confirmed to me that that still works fine and doesn't have the bug.
>>573323279this but the reverse of it and the males are cute beautiful twinks
>>573323279Ok now give me the anime version for males
>>573323193It's definitely an annoying bug, but yeah not the end of the world. Just fix it and accept that every result before now was a bit scuffed.
>>573323383>nobody wanting to submit even optionsExcept there's no reliable way to tell if (you)r option is even or odd so ultimately it has no impact
>>573323503>>573323503https://sprites.neocities.org/choice/maker?seed=573322835&entries=noelle%20holiday%20weird%20route,Realm%20of%20the%20Mad%20God,Neferpitou,Kei-chan,leucochloridium%20paradoxum,CYBERPUNK%20(the%20genre%20not%20the%20franchise),seth%20deltarune%20huge%20boobs,Flat%20catgirls%20with%20big%20butts,post-irony%20memetics,My%20600-lb%20life,captain%20laserhawk,Gaynigger%20from%20outer%20space,sonic.exe,573322589,girls%20with%20huge%20boobs%20being%20inconvenienced%20by%20their%20huge%20boobs,Indistinct%20Chatter%20(Krayna%20Grzybow),beegirl,2008%20nostalgia%20core,robo-ky,Justin%20Bieber%20doing%20a%20flip!!
>>573323459Oh yeah? Well what if we held a BOYCOTT of making new threads until the bug is fixed? How about that? Huh?
>>573323193Not exactly. As far as I understood, it's not removing half at random, it's removing even options specifically. Now you can look at the responses and immediately tell which ones definitely won't be picked lol.
>>573323410>>573323425
>>573324425>GPT imagegenyuck
>>573323750That's correct.
>>573314081https://litter.catbox.moe/66ccyniokla797be.txtI have not audited this code yet, it's simply what GPT outputted for me but I've confirmed it works, which is where I got that screenshot from.
>>573325984Bug 1: Candidates with zero first-choice votes can never be eliminatedcounts is a Counter that only ever contains candidates who received at least one first-active-preference vote that round. A candidate ranked second-or-later on every ballot never appears in counts, so min(counts.values()) never sees them, so they're never eliminated — they lurk unkillable, collecting transfers. The candidates set built at the top of instant_runoff was presumably meant to prevent exactly this, but it's never used.In demo 2 (4×[A], 3×[B,C], 3×[D,C]), the script elects C — a candidate not a single voter put first. Standard IRV eliminates C in round 1 as the lowest (0 votes), and A wins. The fix is to seed the counter from that unused set:counts = Counter({c: 0 for c in candidates if c not in eliminated})(Note this changes the meaning of total_votes not at all — zero-count entries add nothing — but it fixes both min() and the len(losers) == len(counts) tie check, which currently also can't see zero-vote candidates.)Bug 2: All tied-lowest candidates are eliminated in one batch, unconditionallyWhen several candidates tie for last, the script eliminates all of them at once. Batch elimination is only sound when the tied group's combined votes are less than the next candidate up — otherwise you can eliminate someone who would have won. Demo 1 (4×[A], 3×[B,C], 3×[C,B]): the script eliminates B and C together and elects A with 4 of 10 ballots, even though 60% of voters ranked both B and C above A — proper single elimination gives the surviving one of B/C six votes and the win. The fix is to eliminate one candidate per round, with a tiebreak rule the thread agrees on beforehand (random draw, fewest votes in the previous round, etc.) — that choice is policy, not code, so it should be stated in the thread rather than picked silently.Bug 1 is a one-line fix. Bug 2 needs the thread to agree on a tiebreak rule first.
>>573326425What's the one-line fix?
>>573326597Replace the counts = Counter() line at the top of the while loop with:counts = Counter({c: 0 for c in candidates if c not in eliminated})
That anons trick workhttps://litter.catbox.moe/3n874pruf6blr4td.jpg
>>573324425kek
>>573293751Just a heads up that runoff voting systems are still bad.Use STAR instead.https://youtu.be/-4FXLQoLDBAhttps://youtu.be/JDCQQEeSQlo
