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>Welcome to Season 2
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/welcome_season_2

>Youtube and Twitter:
https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGame
https://x.com/MarathonTheGame

>Marathon Game Home Page
https://www.marathonthegame.com/

>The Entire History of Marathon
https://marathon.bungie.org/story/

>Play the Original Marathon for Free
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/

Databases:
https://tauceti.world/
https://tauceti.gg/

Previous run: >>572463417
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>>573302923

Recon has now finished your retard crew fill and vandal is rushing your position with destroyer and a little spider drone
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>>573304191
Vandal and Destroyer can't shoot without my permission. I decide when enemies have the ability to shoot.
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Somebody make an assassin version of this, we can all see you trying to be sneaky
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>assassin is for being sneaky
Couldn't be more wrong, Assassin's power comes from deactivating the aim-assist stat of your weapons. Both the ult and cloak camo do that, and no one can see your body, except Thief(Thief loses too, if she wasted the visor seconds before).
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Sex with Durandal
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How is Delta or Arena Breakout more interesting to watch.
Maybe if Marathon had new maps, instead of the trash night reskin
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>>573308151
Lower common denominator means wider audience means that you're more likely to catch more fish through simple probabilty.
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>below 7k peaks
G R I M
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Still don't understand how a single free week got it to half the initial peak.
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>small
>penis
>humiliation
>time
S'pht
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>>573303902
Post the sauce of these organic-mechanic sloots.
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Any tips on how to grind to gold ranked? I just want the skin but im getting destroyed by levels 150-200, even on bronze. Is there any way to just slowly loot-and-extract or are people as bloodthirsty as in normal mode?
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>>573312416
Just uhhh...git gud?
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>>573312416
Pick the uninstall wizard shell to win Marathon
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>>573310568
that wasn't even the free week. that was mostly returning players checking on S2. the steamdb charts showed that when free week opened, only about 2K people jumped in at that time.
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>>573310568
I am of the belief that the only reason they did a free week for the launch of S2 was to obfuscate returning player numbers so the news would be about Marathon free week instead of "Holy shit look at how fucking bad these numbers are this game is fucking dead"
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I want to play this game, but I am a stinky third worlder from the middle of nowhere, but Bungie discriminates against me and my people.

I guess if you are not born in the greatest country in the world, in which gaming is centered, then you are out of luck... Can't imagine how bad the queue times are in LATAM.
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Solos are still broken. Dead game to me.
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stable 7k playerbase
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>>573312416
invite the assassinfag he is platinum 2
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>bungie can't throw one measly patch out without crashing the servers or breaking the queue function
actually pathetic
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>>573311301
literally, genuinely, r/Marathon
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>>573326124
And less than 1K interested to see it
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>>573326124
weird. I could've sworn it was at a stable 10k like 1 or 2 weeks ago
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>>573329903
And it'll be a stable 4k one or two weeks from now.
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>>573329992
more than enough to fill a room :)
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I died
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>>573332425
heh nothing personnel kiddo
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Looks a lot better than the survey preview they showed off in season 1 god damn
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Putting the sponsored mode onto Night Marsh fucking sucks. I hate this fucking map, don't even want to play the game now.
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>>573305428
Please never change assfags, please keep hiding in your smoke while I have Search and Dickstroy active so I can blast you while you can't even see me.
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my house
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marathroons what is this... ??
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>rooking it
>find and stabilize anomaly
>waiting for exfil
> lvl 86 rook kills me
>doesn't loot me
>doesn't exfil
Ok.
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>>573351448
That's nuts.
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im going to miss this game
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>>573308151

Delta and Arena are by the same developer.
This developer has put thousands of fake positive steam reviews into these games.
This developer puts thousands of fake bot players to inflate the steam numbers (matchmaking takes the piss in both and Arena even has AI operators in dead lobbies)
As someone who has played the shit out of both, and recognises the inprovements and changes they made that make Tarkov look like a shit old game, theyve definitely faked its popularity no doubt funded by the malware the gane installs onto your PC if youre an idiot.
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>>573319541
Get with the times, your people are flocking to first world countries in droves. Britain owes you fast matchmaking and free gibs. There is a boat waiting for you near Calais.
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>>573358580
Delta Force is by the shit Chinese Tarkov developers too? That's crazy. Wonder which shooter they'll clone and peddle to baseball cap indoors streamers that can't tell the difference next, though CoD may as well be Chinese for all the difference that makes.
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>>573333486
Cool, but where are the Destroyer and Vandal skins?
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>>573351276
Wrong game.
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>>573359356
I know a guy that got a premium skin or two in Delta. Theres ten drops and you pay 5 first world currency for a drop, couod be a spraypaint or a premium skin. Obviously the premium skin always cones last despite the "chance" you'll get it first drop. I think the price of the drop even goes up by 1 each roll.
He was shit at the game.
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>>573329903
I could have sworn it shuts down by April but here we are
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>>573351276
wrong game radeesh
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>>573351276
I thought this was Siege since they released that tranny 2B skin but no, it's Apex. They need to stop adapting anime characters to games with western styles.
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>Friends stopped playing a week ago
>Trio with randoms is fucking dogshit
>Solo is getting a bit samey
Lads i dont think im blast having anymore
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>>573360857
Hopefully next week or the week after that. Destroyer really needs a new skin, bro has been fucking starved of good cosmetics.
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>>573364939
Spend your time doing fill trios on outpost and cryo. After enough games you'll eventually bump into another worthwhile player and you can form a new trio from there.
>t. someone who had to form a new trio after the other two members stopped playing one day

It's not a fun process but with enough time you'll find some players.
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Does anyone know if signal jammer affects thief visor?
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>>573366868
Knowing how fucked it is otherwise it probably works exactly the same just a bit blurry
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>>573333486
Where did you get this image?
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>>573358580
now this cope posting
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>>573367685
x (formerly the site known as twitter)
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Im level 30 my gf is due to give birth in 30 days can I complete the season as a solo chad
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>>573375071
who's the lucky father?
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>>573376934
Hoho a negroid no doubt!
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>Trio and I get placed on server that has me on a million ping and rubber banding for a ranked game
>Despite this manage to wipe lobby and get 35k RP
>Everyone was running around with green and blue shields for some reason
>Actual NPC behaviour; running out in the open, hipfiring and spraying shots everywhere
>One team we fought 2/3 died to bots doing a secured resource before we even pushed them
>Friend some of the people after and ask what nationality they are
>Most of them say they're american
>Ask if the game they played that I was in was lagging for them
>It wasn't
>Meanwhile in every ranked game in MY region everyone has a purple or gold shield, outland and misriah at bare minimum
Are americans just playing an entirely different version of the game or something? Is this really the average caliber of NA players? They have a like 2 second advantage to kill me and I still managed to drop most without trading.

Honestly tempted to set a VPN to america so I can climb to plat desu
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>>573384294

European Extreme was not a meme
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BUMP(thread is about to die)
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>>573328553
Thanks for introducing me to a new artist of slutshells.
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Favourite faction?
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>>573396417
NuCaloric, thematically. Gameplay wise, idk.
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>>573392263
why the fuck did they have to put a gap between her front teeth
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Anyone played Delta Force think Ranked should work the same?
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>>573397358
To give her the London Look™
And make her look slightly sluttish. Don't ask me why, but a very slight gap between the front two upper incisors makes a person look just a little more likely to suck cock on demand when they smile.
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the chuds won
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Is thief fast as fuck or did the 1pt in agility I added to the cradle tip some breakpoint
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>>573409037
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kek
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>>573340491
>I have Search and Dickstroy active so I can blast you while you can't even see me.
Why didn't destroyer save sentinel with search n dickstroy, what happened?
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I don't need Thief's X-ray, I can do this at will
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>but Recon
>but Thief
All inferior to me
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It may be over jej
I guess I'm going back to factorio with how bad the queue times are just to get bodied by roided players
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>>573424391
>roided players
they die nearly as fast as free kitters, you just turn off their aim assist with cloak
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>>573423898
not everyone plays the game 24/7
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>>573424737
Most buyer play it zero days a week(0X24/7)

Hueheue NWAAHAHAHAA
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>night maps are good, like Buried City night, Sentinel looks good too
Said /mg/, one week before season two. Where are those insects now.
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>>573430540
spoken like a true shitter, your lack of self awareness never gets old
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>>573437789
Night reskin failed, so did sentinel. I was right as always
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I took a break from this game to play some of my backlog and I can completely understand why people drop it.

Too much deadtime for the lack of stealth mechanics in a bungie game. The ideal way to play is to either play assassin/wait for someone else to give themselves away on PvE. I play a round of halo and get to fire my guns more in 5 minutes than I do 2 hours of Marathon.
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>>573430540
sentinel was never going to be good outside of cryo
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>have to take the game down for three hours to fix a problem another fix caused
chartposters stay winning
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>>573407362
How much do you think they paid him? More than Marathon made this month?
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>>573447124
>More than Marathon made this month?
oh, absolutely
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>>573447124
What I find funny is that one of the conditions of the settlement was to have his name added to the credits of Marathon. Like, after how the launch went, I'd be fine not having my name associated with it
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>>573445079
>>573430540
Really just gives away that you either haven't played with a good sentinel yet or that you suck and couldn't make him work. Sentinel is clutch for coordinated trio play or solos, but can't expect much from shitter assassin mains who think going invisible and shooting someone in the back is the apex of their skill as a player and the only worthwhile ability to use.
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>>573452665
>Sentinel is clutch for coordinated trio play or solos
You're absolutely a shitter
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>>573430540
>>night maps are good
They are, and Night Marsh is good,
>Sentinel looks good too
Never said it. I knew day 1 Sentinel was dogshit when I realized the snare trap is the UESC Grenadier grenade burst without damage and aoe and the scanner was a motion tracker capped to 30 meters.
Recon is a better Sentinel than Sentinel
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Nigger shitter faggots say the following
>vibing
>clutch
>night maps are good
No exception
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Don't think I've seen shittier DLC than what Marathon got. Free or not, a reskin instead of a New map is extremely retarded. Thank Lord Jesus Christ most developers got terminated
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Sentinel's defense system should have a wider range, and it should Automatically send throwables back where they came from. You throw EMP, it comes back.
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>>573447331
Based sex pest leaving his stain on one last thing
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>>573443739
It’s amazing how they had he easiest layup in the world, just redo halo, and they opt for this garbage instead
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>>573447124
>more than Marathon made in 8 days
Considering his position, yes
>>573447331
>Marathon was such a catastrophic failure that they are still updating it 4 months later, hiring for positions, and the original game director (irrelevant guy) is asking for his name to be in the credits
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i havent tried solos this season (i am blessed with a trio). is it still an overpopulated fuckfest?
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>>573447124
I suspect it's more than Marathon's entire DLC transactions combined.
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>>573455370
>>573462176
DLC?
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>>573462365
JeetGPT is confused
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>>573462365
Passes and cosmetics and shit.
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I could see myself playing this if the matchmaking didn't take forever only to shit me out into a high ping garbage game. Such a waste of time for no reason.
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>>573462365
Pajeet sama, all downloadable content, maps, shells, guns, is DLC.
The battle pistol is DLC, Sentinel is DLC
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>>573466025
>I could see myself playing this if the matchmaking didn't take forever
You didn't see yourself that way 3 months ago, when the game had a lot of players? Too late to troon out, the tranny game is RIP
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Marathon?
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>>573466549
?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Looking forward to the new dlc in September!
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>>573470695
me whenever I look at the steam charts
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I am absolutely flabbergasted by Destroyer's complete lack of shop skins since launch. Genuinely what the fuck is causing this?
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I guess we have a DLC schitzo now.
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Is Red Ocean Strategy the main objective of upper Complex, where you fight the boss? I usually never have the time to go that deep in.
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>>573477758
>Red Ocean Strategy
Genuinely no clear what you mean by this, but basically the goal is to fight the boss and get access to the loot room that opens after killing him yeah, since it has a good chance of dropping prestiges, a unique longshot and plenty of purple salvage and valuables. Convoy, Commander and Anomaly can spawn and are viable to grind, but you usually use the first two to get the confirmed observation key to do the boss.

My recommendation if you want to try and do the boss is to pick one of the elavator doors and just try to memorise all the buttons specifically for that route alone. You can try Rook running and just walking up to whichever elavator has been opened by a team and walk into the rooms and memorise where all the blue panels are that way.
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>>573472040
Two theories
>A
Destroyer's pick rate is so low that they figure there's no point making a skin for him since it'd mean less money compared to making another assassin or thief skin (questionable since every gold sweat stack usually has at least 1)
>B
His design makes it hard to actually come up with anything interesting.
He has too many design staples that they have to hit
>Exposed mouth
>Heavily armoured
>Rocket boots
>Shoulder missiles
>Huge visor
It's a lot less flexible than other shell's designs for coming up with skins. Maybe they could come up with something but it'd take some time, and they don't really have time at the moment since the pressure is on to make money.
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Third theory
>game is such a failure, the only skins releasing are the ones that were ready to go before the S2 update
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Is solos fixed yet?

>>573472040
>>573484008
He should get a White Rabbit skin.
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>>573490241
With red eyes and medieval style grenades?
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>>573490241
Yes, Rook works properly despite being a bit overnerfed this season.
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>actually want to play marathon for once instead of just logging in because i feel like i have to
>it's in maintenance
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>>573490241
Only if it gets the thief shinigami skin treatment where it technically counts as a new shell series, and they genderbend destroyer.

In all seriousness I think there’s a high chance he either gets a retro future skin or he gets a ikari yokai skin, since in the thief shinigami lore it mentions them having “brothers” and ikari translates to wrath/rage in Japanese
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>>573492372
/you can play with my stick while you wait
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>>573492372
Didn't they just have maintenance on Tuesday? What is there to maintain when barely anyone plays?
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why are assassin players so ass at this game?
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>>573496113
his whole gimmick is going invisible to take cheap shots at enemies, hiding and running away, so he naturally attracts a lot of shitters that need a crutch to survive.
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>>573496113
>>573498581
Armschizo, your response?
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>>573494325
i'm a transbian
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>>573495704
they have to make sure nobody besides the 10 people who already have it found any gold loot or an alarm goes off
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>>573495704
they broke solo queue and had to take down servers to fix it. theyre down for another hour
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>>573498581
OnG, the worst are console ass mains with free kits
>>573498670
who??
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>>573499312
one of our weirdest regulars
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>>573498670
>Armschizo, your response?
Was a recon main before the buff, and still was double Vip arachne in S1. Assassin is better because I don't care about shield color, I care about removving enemy aim assist
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>>573484008
Fell like we need to break down the fundamentals of what geometry needs to stay static on all the Shells as well.
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>Marathon Update 1.1.0.5
>Fixed an issue where selecting Solo Queue could fail to update your matchmaking state, which could leave you locked into another queue or in a crew-based queue unexpectedly.
https://x.com/MarathonDevTeam/status/2075293724729647351
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>>573501552
solo mode is so important, they cucked Cryo opening for it. And /mg/ sissies have been tellin me
>solos i-is an afterthought, ch-chudcel
And look them now.
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Yea, early /mg/ shitters hated solo, tried downplaying it. Now they bow to solo cock
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Early season 1 icons, SOUL.
Farmed the fuck out of people and took shields as trophies
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Season 2, tasteless icons, inferior to original versions. Boring faceless Sentinel shell, unwanted night map, instead of a cool new map
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/v/ is laughing at us again, /mg/
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>>573503785
/v/ is bad at video games, they would get stomped on Marathon. They do not matter.
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>>573498701
Every hole is a goal, a lesbian or a fuckin mormon, doesn't matter to me
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Yea gimme that lil Tau Ceti transbian booty
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does anyone have any advice on getting the profiteer title? everything i have so far I've been feeding to the worm
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>>573508550
well maybe stop feeding the worm first and see how that helps. also just barter to build kits instead of spending credits as salvage takes up lots of vault space for little value
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>>573503785
They have gacha and gooner threads. Whos laughing now?
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>>573508550
>Fill up your vault
>Once vault is full select Rook
>Spam Rook runs
>Pick up anything and everything worth credits (guns, valuables, gun attachments etc.) and exfil
>At the end of every successful Rook run sell literally everything you pick up
>Repeat from step 3 until you unlock title
Important note: Profiteer can be achieved from reaching 1 million that's combined from both your wallet as well as your vault value. You don't need 1 million credits, just like 500 - 600k credits.

If you don't want to Rook run, play exclusively Triage and use exclusively white sponsored kits until you hit the profiteer goal. Triage saves you money on meds and makes volt weapons better, and volt weapons are one of the most cost-efficient weapon types you can run when it comes to ammo-to-kill-to-cost ratios.
>>573509151
Valuable advice but also a trap; blue and purple salvage barters are often at a loss for runner purchase, so your salvage will usually have a higher credit sum then whatever you get with said salvage, unless it's shit like meds or ammo or obviously favourable daily deals like 2 wires for a blue volley rifle worth 5k credits.
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>>573509540
>rook
>exfil

Haha good joke
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>>573510325
Sounds like a skill issue
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>>573509540
i think it's really close value or an upgrade to convert unstable biomass into patch kits and gunmetal into bullets so you can play without spending credits, seeing as you can pick those up in the tens rooking with a little luck and map knowledge. you're right that they nerfed barters a bit this season though, i'm just saying salvage is unlikely to play as much of a part in profiteer as credit total preservation because you can only hold so much of the shit
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>>573510325
>he can't befriend other Rooks on runs.
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>>573510954
It's definitely not a bad idea, but it just takes a bit of a dedicated effort to consistently do. You always need to swing by the POI's to grab the white salvage which can put you in danger and limit your carrying space for other worthwhile things. It's nice to do on the side but hard to commit to as a direct money saving measure, especially when it's more efficient to feed white salvage to the cradle for XP than anything else.
>i'm just saying salvage is unlikely to play as much of a part in profiteer as credit total preservation because you can only hold so much of the shit
Somewhat true, though it stacks up nicer. One stack of 10 blue salvage is a lot easier to cram in a vault and is worth the same as a fully purple modded m77. Stacking salvage up like that means saving more space for valuable stuff on top of having more room for salvage that stacks up too.

Of course green and white salvage isn't worth any credits but can't get rid of a lot of it since you need it for barters and schemas so eh, what can you do.
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>>573509540
oh shit, i didn't know the combined value of vault and creds went towards it. i sold my vault twice already. thanks for the advice anon
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marathon sisters, I'm scared...
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Marathon is getting season updates, Destiny 2 players get no updates
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>>573518602
>Destiny 2 Players refused to play Destiny 2 or buy it's expansions for 2.5 years
>Wonder why Destiny 2 is not getting any more expansions
It must be Marathons fault.
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>>573495704
they are scaling down the server infrastructure
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>>573364901
to be faaaaair... they're skins for existing charactes in apex; not the actual edgerunner characters themselves.
so it makes sense that they're totally off, but yeah seems like a stupid move to not just use the actual edgerunner characters instead. at least fortnite isn't this retarded
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>>573518008
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>bungie got baited into making a pve mode
>sony's going to twist bungie into a support studio for another that actually knows how to make games
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>>573492372
>instead of just logging in because i feel like i have to
this happens because of things like daily items/rotating or random items in the store. your brain's being hacked to check "because there might be something good there." you should be more aware of how you're manipulated so you can make decisions for yourself instead of feeling like you have to do what you've been led to.
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>>573529296
tl;dr don't be a stupid goy who gets raped by fomo mind tricks
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>>573409397
it is just fucking insane how many little boosts and quirks thief gets just by existing
why play any other shell
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>>573531791
Thief's power is the X-ray visor, with long range core, which is better than a thermal optic, because it can track through walls.
I don't think any other "quirks" matter.
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>>573510325
what's so funny
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>>573532898
She can't exfil as a lone Rook shell, she needs a squad to protect her bussy and help her exfil
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>if you're even slightly kinda sorta good, bungie expects you to play nothing but cryo for a year
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>>573535907
You believe this game has a year? It won't be online next summer. Maybe the maps will be playable offline.
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>>573536336
Sony's got deep pockets anon
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I think this genre is for people who like (((realistic))), normal looking games. Perhaps extraction dudes don't want to loot biomass, and play as goofy looking characters.
How a game looks matters, right, gameplay is not everything, especially when there's alternatives for the gameplay.
>but Bungie's special feeling FPS shooting
It's very good but can't carry it, because guns look retarded, operators look retarded, and nobody gives a fuck about what's on the Marathon ship. It's gonna be some kind of green skinned aliens? Who gives a fuck.
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>>573539697
It's not about Sony's pockets, it's about trying to use Bungie's logo again. With a different type of game, I don't think Sony will give Bungie permission to work on a multiplayer game. I think Bungie will have to work on one of Sony's IPs, a smaller single player game.

After S2 I don't believe in Bungie at all, it's a crimson fate for them. They're beyond ass as a studio
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After hearing about the "Perimeter update" I've accepted that Bungie are retarded. If they weren't, they would have brand new maps in development before the game released.
The best move now is to
>make game free permanently
>release both team deathmatch modes and PvE modes
>let the PvPvE core mode just float between those
It's GGs, just let everyone play all maps now. No one will care about this game later, everyone will be on MW4 and GTA.
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>>573540284
I'll give them until S3, if that's ass then Marathon is genuinely over
I doubt they'll bar them from making something multiplayer though. They're forcing them to make something that appeals to Bungie fans, ie casual PvE. They'll probably make them come up with something that's not-Halo, maybe pushing for a L4D type game. Can both get a story out of that and it being co-op drags more players in, probably want to manage to get a good live service going out of them
Genuinely sucks though that the Marathon well is poisoned and we'll never see something with this much sauce again, just can't imagine whatever's next will be nearly as cool or original looking
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>>573540974
>can't imagine whatever's next will be nearly as cool or original looking
It probably won't, that's why I think the game should go free as soon as possible. It's being wasted right now. Do the PvE thing and let everyone play for free.
All modes free
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>>573541403
We had a whole free 10 days and it barely moved the needle. Making the game f2p now would be a death knell. I think it'd only be a viable option further down the line when the game hopefully has more content and a wider variety of modes so that it becomes a platform of sorts that people can play what they enjoy with it
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>>573541403
free week ruined the fucking playerbase while it was active, i don't care about farming freekit noobs i care about having smart teammates who communicate and it was unplayable then i don't want another free week
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These motherfuckers better refund me my money when this game shuts down at end of season
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If they don't enable free green kits in the next update this game will hit triple digit playercounts by the end of the month
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I want a free green kit
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>>573550498
>>573557916
i genuinely dont get why they dont just make this be the standard or an unlockable upgrade for grey shield kits to give a green shield on infil unless in sponsored modes after like 2 weeks, i mean grey shields still exist in sponsored modes and if you die and a team takes your shield but you get revived, really no need to make the standard free kits grey anymore especially after all the blue and purple free kits and sponsored survival
its like they want their game to die, and green still aint even much of an upgrade, you can still get one shot be outland
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>>573561617
They can just make green shields compromised and call it day, but at the same time the entire point of the sponsored kit is that they have around 500 credits in value and cost nothing so you making the baseline closer to the 4k kits makes it so that people just exfil higher value on average and have a complete wellspring of green materials available just by dropping in and dipping out. My honest thoughts are that the greens should just remain budget options and some costs should be cut (especially in the green/blue shield department) and it would encourage people to spend the very tiniest amount and get them out of the their free kit hell.
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>>573557916
I want your buttcheeks on my shaft
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>>573540974
>I'll give them until S3, if that's ass then Marathon is genuinely over
You gotta cut that cope already, anon. S2 was supposed to be their comeback and they fucked it up. They don't deserve a third chance. They're not good enough at their jobs for that.
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Real talk, why is Marathon duking it out on the bottom of the list with a meme-tier goat simulator game of an extraction shooter?
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>>573540956
They can't increase the map count because their design is bad ie the requirement for players to queue for specific map rather than having a normal rotation.
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>>573563675
>My honest thoughts are that the greens should just remain budget options
this is retarded and didn't work in season 1 because they cost less than the patch kits you have to bring with them to play the game
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>>573564741
Nah, S3 is supposed to be the comeback if there's supposed to be one
S1/Release high, S2 low, S3 high

S2 was the offseason, as will be S4. It kind of reads that way when you look at the season outline too, where both of them are less "exciting". It may be cope, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt in face of the possibility of this being their plan. If S3 is just a flop then it's pretty much over unless Sony wants to keep dumping money into making Marathon a platform
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Monthly check in with you homos.

When is PvE Mode releasing?
Only have PS+ till August, after that i will switch to PC, so i wont be able toever play Assathon again.

How does it take 5 fucking months to release a simple PvE Mode without other shizos on the map?
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>>573584176
>When is PvE Mode releasing?
21st of July, 11 days.
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If they will add a deathmatch mode, it should be played only with a new shell that's supposed to be a generic grunt with no abilities.
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>>573591154
Maybe BR33 starts and your shields recharge automatically
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Played a lot of Death Stranding recently and now I keep pressing all the wrong buttons in Marathon
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>>573567968
Because it's a half-baked piece of shit and modern Bungie can't do anything right.
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>The server slam is the comeback
>No, actually launch day is the comeback
>No, actually CARRI is the comeback
>No, actually S2 is the comeback
>No, actually the 10 day, extended free week is the comeback
>No, actually the mid season update is the comeback
>No, actually S3 is the comeback
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Stop spawning me at Quarantine and Maintenance I need Bio-research!!!!!!!!!!
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>>573593476
Have you updated your EOS date yet? I think your last guess was about three months ago.
Might want to invest in a real psychic instead of how gay you're feeling in the momemt.
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Analytics just got updated from my last doompost, it's worse than I feared. They think it'll be 6w till under 1k players down from 2mo... I hope the next update actually brings people in otherwise it's doomed. Back to Rimworld until the update drops ig
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>>573609808
If the peak count isn't under 1k by the end of august will you hang yourself? Or this just your way of masturbating?
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>>573610285
No? Why would I? I like the aesthetics of Marathon but I'm sick of getting stomped by roided players like my last post states idk a day ago or whatever now. I'll simply go continue my rimworld playthrough.
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>>573610715
You do understand there's no way to tell which post you made unless you link it, right?
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>lobby's empty
>no bots, no players
>run around mindlessly looting boxes because there's nothing else to do
>get one-shot by an assassin when i turn a random corner
>bungie's future is riding on this gameplay
i'd say it's been fun but it's actually been miserable so
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They really need to casualize the experience. Drop their quality standards to the lowest denominator and pander like a little bitch to Destiny players.
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>>573611201
it's this one >>573424391 figured it would have been obvious by the combination of doomposting and the phrase "roided players" but i guess not.
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>>573613017
Okay. Fair. That's on me for not ingesting and remembering every doompost.

Still surprised that site is still going. Guess the dev's pedo posts haven't been leaked. Or authenticated.
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>>573584176
>Only have PS+ till August, after that i will switch to PC
Is that you, Highfive. Don't tell me got filtered homie
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>Marathon has been nominated for the World Soundtrack Awards 2026 Game Music Award! Head to https://worldsoundtrackawards.com for more information, and to cast your vote.
https://x.com/MarathonTheGame/status/2075670629861470499
The comeback is ON
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>>573614202
Literally no one is playing this. That's crazy
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>>573614202
Deserved.
https://youtu.be/iFYBEVeaFlw
https://youtu.be/1PuzM_SkwCM
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>>573384294
this happens in every game
back in the day when i used to play tarkov i'd go to NA servers to do any kill quests, in poorer countries only people who are commited to videogames buy the hardware required to run those, in the us, even the most retarded nigger can buy a gaming pc, thats it, period
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only 11 days until pve mode launches and we finally return to 10k peak concurrent players and the game is saved
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>>573609121
I never said EOS, but the shills here promised ____ will bring back the players
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>>573614851
>Hating a game so much you will literally reject the evidence before your senses if they don't agree with your prejudices
The music is good.

>>573616330
There'll be a bump upwards. Anything that makes the game more casual (PvE only) helps to expand the niche the game captures.
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>>573613328
Ntf
Not that faggot
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>>573364901
>>573524510
To be absolutely fair: Apex has always had ugly looking characters. I think it was almost on purpose. Like the setting is rough and ugly and it gives it a bit of character.

When the game released everyone was saying it looked like the vidya incarnation of die antwoord
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>>573548540
>>573541403
To be fair I dont think theres any reason not to make Marathon F2P with S3.

It's not like the game is going to get any new buying players any time soon. If people are barely interested in playing the game for FREE they arent gonna be spending 40 dollary doos on it
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>>573628250
Unless they have crazy content planed, S3 is way too early to make it F2P. Just like the S2 free week, people will maybe try it, see that they don't like it and dip out save for a handful of people. Now your worse off because not only are you not attracting players but people also now don't have to buy into the game, plus you're now relying solely on the cosmetics shop for revenue and you'll probably piss off anyone who bought into the game for making it free so soon after release
Again, they need to be able to shift Marathon more towards a platform for "engage with the game the way that you want" that they seem to be headed towards first by having a variety of fun, lasting PvPvE, PvP and PvE modes before they could ever make a F2P switch work out. I'm very much looking forward to Vault Breaker, but I very highly doubt it can carry a $40 price tag just by itself. Confidence in Bungie and the longevity of Marathon is very low so I could see that even at a 50% off sale that people wouldn't be inclined to buy in still. I just can't see it being a good idea to pull off at all until at least S5 maybe
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>>573615005
I wish there was an even more extended version of Code Race, it's just too good. Neurosaboteur also goes fucking hard, the drop at minute 7 is peak.
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>Joe Ziegler last tweet June 9th
Your own game director cowers away, hiding, shivering away knowing what is about to happen. After your "free week", which was a fruitless struggle for survival... he fell silent. Your morale falters, your numbers dwindle, and your holes? Gaped. You hold on desperately to what little cope you have left. You believe that if you just wait for Season 3, 4, 5 or whatever you choose, that suddenly... Marathon will be saved, that Bungie will avoid the coming rape. No. There will be no salvation for Bungie or any of their IPs. All their future is now is their complete and utter ruination. Even with this truth you choose to deny inevitability... good. I will enjoy your little futile exertions before you fall. [boisterous laughter]
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If you wanna talk to yourself you can just stick sock puppets on both of your hands instead of coming here all the time you obsessed schizo
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>>573639297
apeschizo is the best poster in the general, no cap
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>>573615005
for me it's For Those Who Did Not Wake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5RVSxkJqeU
The title itself is also just so evocative, makes you wonder about who it's talking about. Those opening notes convey the really conflicting saddening though about how there might be people just eternally in cryo sleep on the Marathon. Will they one day get the chance to wake up, or will they stay eternally on the Marathon until its power systems fail and they die peacefully in their sleep, eternally part of that ghost ship? Were they lucky to be spared from waking up for the early colonization phase and everything those people went through?
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>>573612535
this would make the game so much worse in the eyes of a lot of the people who like it. the misanthropy simulator thing is kinda the new brand they're pushing for marathon
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>>573612535
they don't need to casualize anything they just need to unfuck the balance and progression
there's nothing hardcore about falling off the gear treadmill and getting raped over and over again because you didn't take advantage of the hot new exploit that printed golds and purples for a few hours so now you're just forever stuck behind while the unemployim snowball their gear into even more gear that they can use to keep everyone else stuck even once the exploit is fixed
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>>573635179
b for based
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>allegedly recruits have 110 HP which matches the heavy-one-shot threshhold
>except 85 melee damage is enough to one-shot them with a light
>which should be dealing only 104 damage
this is hurting my autism
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>>573655703
when they nerfed melee damage they specifically said it's only against players, bots take like 2x as much damage as a player from melee
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>>573655941
yee that's priced in, from what i understand is that the specific implementation is that the *scaling* is reduced by half against players. so instead of 0.375/0.625 per point of melee damage for L/H it's 0.1875/0.3125
and then also there's a 1.5x multiplier when meleeing bots? maybe?
fuck, can knives headshot? maybe that's the piece i'm missing
is there a "theory crafting" d*scord or other similar autism hub i should investigate
because lord knows the ability to find information anywhere else has fucking vanished. god i miss forums
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speaking of melee
>85 melee damage
>LLH a blue shield
>they survive it
>i die to their HH
what.
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(oh and it said 200 runner damage in the recap)
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>>573567968
escape from duckov is a good game. im just waiting for a real pve mode.
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>>573612232
dont worry pve mode will fix everything
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>finally work up the cahones to do compiler
>have 8 dna keys between my friend and i
>get surprised by a team but we clutch it up
>run into a 2nd team and finish off two of them
>poor bastard brought a blue shield and conquest to a mizzy fight
>3rd guy ran up the ladder and my mate is trying to talk him down so we can be on our merry way
> cross between index and cargo on the ground floor and sneak up the ladder behind him
>can hear my teammate try and sweet talk him into a 6 man compiler
>give him back shots with my mizzy.
>ended up wasting too much time but hit clearance 5 and arsenal and got a gold bully
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>>573664438
>attempt number 2 and our third doesn't have all 6 dna traces so he can't activate the tcag terminals?
>fuck it up and just abandon it cause there's another squad waiting to jump us
>we're the last two and we just wanna exil
>they wanna fight cause fuck exfilling
>we end up wiping them and getting the compiler trace (40k) for the 3rd straight time tonight
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>>573666915
All three people need to activate the terminals?
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>>573667119
no, i think you need all 6 subroutines to interact with the switches because only two of us could do it and our 3rd could not (even though he's done compiler twice, i guess he got carried).
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>last cryo of the night
>want to relax with a 1 key, 3 batteries ezgg
>run into a team
>they can't push because i'm le sentinel
>destroyer flanks but eats a full mag from my salt wages
>teammate trades and the other finishes but gets downed as well
>clutched a fight in the smoke against an assassin crouching with a mizzy but i stab him to death
>they killed another team and had a vault 05 key
>hear an exfil go off
>we have to be last ones left
>panopticon and arsenal are untouched
>what are these other teams doing???
>make it out with the compiler trace for the 4th time tonight.
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>>573484008
>>573392263

They need to sell half-damaged and broken looking shell models. Cracked visors and armor, slashed apparel. With silk larvae leaking out. I would consoom
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>>573657963
I had exact the opposite experience. Did 2 heavy hits and it only came out as 179 damage. This was with maxed out melee, plus 20 from implant, as destroyer.
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I hate to say it, but the genre just isn’t worth playing with anything less than 20,000 concurrent players. That’s not even me being a steam stats fag, just from pure matchmaking randomization.

Do a Cryo run and it’s us vs the Mizzy Gold team.
Do Outpost and it’s only us and a poor grey shield team we wipe, plus a rook in the corner.
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Did they buff the bots in Cryo or something? Spawned in the whole team got done by snipers and grenadiers, and then the rest of the match we were constantly getting pushed by more snipers in Control to the point where all of the inventory was used up.
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>>573684049
With the playerbase so compacted matchmaking is fucked. When Cryo is open all the sweats go there, so other maps are playable. Trying to run Night Marsh on Tuesdays is an exercise in frustration if you are average team-fill using player, fucking map is lousy with souped up premades.
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PVE patch will save Marathon

I’m fully expecting at least 350k concurrent Steam players, and probably triple that on PS5
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>>573687113
That PvE they’re taking about won’t save it. I’d argue that the only reason they’re doing the Cryo thing is because their stats show them that only 0.8% of players have done the Compiler.
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>>573687113
It still makes me laugh
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>>573688007
Please tell me people spam quote tweeted him
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hey guys, havent played in a month. did the promised shutdown happen yet? the chuds must be proven right at some point...
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>>573688514
sony cut half of their employees just to own the chuds and prove they can make great games with less people lol stay losing chuddies
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>>573688514
no u first
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>>573688770
Might have happened if Bungie didn't fumble season 2.
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>>573688696
how many of those were from the marathon team? like 10?
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>>573689624
so i take that it has shut down already. fuck!
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>>573609808
Retarded capeshit website that can't even fetch data properly. Just use SissyDB.
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>>573689945
You expected better from a "vibecoder"?
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>>573689074
might have happened if Bungie didn't fumble practically everything there is to fumble, you mean. From their reputation to the gambles.
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Steam Charts... owari da.
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>>573692881
technically still sold better than the vast majority of games on Steam. I assume that's how the website came to that conclusion
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I'm hoping bungie pulls a miracle at this point. I want to play but even my trusty marathon group is a ghost town now
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>>573695121
I put more hours into it than most people did but even I'm burnt out on what little is on offer. It would have to be pretty big to get me playing consistently again and I'm worried they don't believe enough in the game anymore to give it that much more content.
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>>573609808
What website is this? Is it only dedicated to marathon player numbers?
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>>573695935
https://flopathon.cc/game/marathon
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>>573685537
I like how there’s absolutely nothing fun about engaging with the PvE element of this game, the bots are purely annoying
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>>573684049
A rook with zero chance to do anything either because whatever team is left probably is gonna recon ult at some point and come gangbang him
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>>573688324
They did, he got massively ratio'd and I think it was his most interacted post ever
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Looking good, sisters!
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>>573703713
Slow and steady...
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I hope they make more fun modes
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>>573703713
what the fuck is Sand and how is it mogging Marathon
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>>573703884
>Bungie
>Fun modes
It's not 2010 anymore, anon. You have to wake up.
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>>573704762
Some fotm open world sandbox crafting thing
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>>573704762
It's an extraction shooter.
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>>573704762
It's a wild West themed extraction shooter where you build a mobile base.
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This game is dead within 2 years. Sony seems to be going all in by 2028. No discs. No physicals. Full control. They fully believe gta 6 will carry them to victory. Sony doesn't need bungie or marathon anymore. I expect more layoffs and marathon going f2p before shut down. I'll continue to play until server closes. No I don't have any hope in this game. Market is too cut throat and saturated. Chuds won. And I hate that. Fuck assmongoloid. Fuck the right wing slop tuber americunts. Fuck nazis. Black lives matter.
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>>573708101
zzzz
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>>573708101
DAS RITE
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i played the free week and learned i do not enjoy extraction shooters
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They really did right by the Sekiguchi contracts. Don't have to go to Quarantine every time, don't have to gather at the one room of Bio-research for every quest, don't have to run to every PoI in the map.
Now reduce the amount of storage drives Nona wants.
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>>573711263
At least you learned without spending money
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>>573711362
Sekiguchi got a great overhaul this season
>Upgrade tree is 100% worthwhile and not too much of a bitch to get capstones for
>The stock on cores is 10x so you can consistently stock up on the cores you like playing with your shells
>Have the lowest rep requirements to level meaning you hit VIP with them way faster than any other faction
>All contracts are far less cock and ball torture to withstand and go through
Working for NONA this season has been a treat. Really hoping the limited contracts for next season is a Sekiguchi vs Arachne scenario, will happily side with worm mum for how she took care of me.
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>>573711263
Not to be "that guy" because if you don't like something it is what it is and that's fine, but I really would try ANY other extraction shooter if you ever get the chance for free/cheap. Marathon is more a..."we made a paint-by-the-numbers Bungie shooter with cool lore then management told us to make it an extraction shooter and we have no clue what we're doing" kinda thing.
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>>573708101
>This game is dead within launch week
>This game is dead within the month
>This game is dead before S2
>This game is dead before S3
>This game is dead within the first year
>This game is dead within 2 years
What's the next goal post for chart chuds?
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>>573717325
Not even a chart chud but if there's barely enough of a turn around by the end of Y1 the game is absolutely going into maintenance mode and most of the dev team either moved on to a new project or let go. I do think both Bungie and Sony want to try and get the game to a point where it's sustainable to support in the long run, but there's only so much they can do before it's clearly a lost cause
After that best chance is the remaining devs slowly chipping away at it enough with a trickle of content that if they get incredibly lucky something clicks, people give it a chance and it gets hugely popular with a second coming that they can dedicate some more resources to it again
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>>573717325
lel

I give this game until s3 and then major changes happening with major results needing to happen or they or someone else'll pull the plug.
It's logically just not worth it to support 5k active players while they sunk in 5 billion ameridollars and to assume it will go on while numbers and graphs must go always up as per expectation. So keep buying those skins and gun packs to support your local stinkie dev
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>queue rook outpost at dead hours (5 am eastern)
>12 minutes left
>pinwheel still closed
>no bodies anywhere
>find a poi with open doors
>it's another rook who is equally confused
>he says he didn't see any exfils pop
>we comb the map and there's literally no signs of life except for where he's been
>no one shows up when we take final exfil
i can understand getting an empty lobby as a team/solo but how the fuck is it possible on rook? was there just 1 team that somehow managed to die in a corner of airfield?
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>>573720397
I have had similar experiences except a seemingly empty map, UESC out the ass, no to little loot spawning anywhere (as in; no crates, no lockers - just fucking nothing), and there's actual fucking waiting times for Rook now, which earlier I never had
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>>573720397
Someone could've loaded in, completed their prio contract - one of those that don't need exfilling - and just gave up once done.
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living rent free in the mind of durandal
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Why did Ziegler go radio silent?
What is happening behind the scenes?
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>>573726406
let him cook now
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>>573726406
its ogre...
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>>573726406
all hands on deck for vault breakers and future pve content, they don't have any devs working on the current game
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Without new map game very boring!!
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>>573726406
He should've been let go and replaced with someone who will pivot the game away from trios forever
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>>573730109
but we needed the extraction shooter to also be an apex legends hero shooter ripoff, anon
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>>573711263
try escape from duckov. extraction shooters feel better single player with a more top down or isometric view. fps extraction shooters need to be very tuned to actually feel good to play
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>>573711263
>>573730714
Gray Zone Warfare has a PvE mode and it's a lot of fun, definitely needs more to do outside of tasking, but that's coming with time since it's EA. Easy game to put a lot of time into, poured near 72 hours into it and had to stop myself from playing more to not burn myself out on it. They made it even easier with the latest update that if you're playing with a buddy you're never just killed instantly now, you're downed and if they get to you they can patch you back up
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>>573711263
Extraction shooters are alright, Marathon is just one of the worst ones ever made.
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sometimes i spend so much time backing in and out of lobby menus that i run out of energy and turn off the game before i actually play a match
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>>573736532
That's a symptom of autism. Get tested. Get your neetbucks.
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>>573736924
it's a symptom of shit ux syndrome
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me personally i'm huffing the hopium that, like most other live service games that have a rocky start, if they continue to allow marathon to exist it will grow into a very, very good game
though i think focusing on solos/duos would be the wiser choice than the current default of trio
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>huh, upper complex almost never opens in any narsh lobby. wonder why.
>get a traxus quest to open it
>ok.jpg
>i farm keys for an hour with a fill group
>get into upper complex
>have to look for tiny targets on the walls to unlock a station to unlock a door
>run around solving this "puzzle" for another hour
>finally hit enough targets to open the door
>another team ganks mine
>exit to desktop
bungie really went ahead and made a whole game as uninteractive as possible, didn't they? why should i go around collecting keys instead of waiting for another team to do it for me? and if everyone catches onto this, why would anyone ever open upper complex? it's just wasting my time to waste my time to put me at huge risk, there's nothing fun about it, it's like they just stacked a bunch of treadmills above a pit of spikes and called it a game.
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>>573741113
is that where they keep the guns in this game
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>>573741113
>and if everyone catches onto this, why would anyone ever open upper complex?
they don't because it's more effort than pinwheel for worse loot
if the loot was good you'd see people running it because unlike outpost it's at least theoretically possible to avoid pvp but after the nerf the risk is just not worth the reward
shit sucks because i really like night marsh and would love to run upper complex outside of the pve week but good luck finding a group for it now
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>>573739986
250 million in the hole and rising
the fact that sony haven't purged and unpersoned bungie yet proves that having an mba doesn't make you intelligent
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5500 on saturday night. thats pretty low
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>>573746924
it's fine chud, everyone's just waiting for the pve mode
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>>573741113
>I should be allowed to be COMPLETELY safe and NEVER be attacked when I'm doing something that will get me good loot or is for a contract
My brother in christ listen to yourself
>>573746924
>Saturday night
>Spending your time looking at a chart instead of playing games or hanging out with friends
Lol
Lmao
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>>573747753
i have it open on my other monitor. im playing marathon
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>>573741113
Sounds like a retard that's never played a pvp game before
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>>573746924
>saturday night. thats pretty low
The vibes are brutal for the majority
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>>573703713
Is destiny worth playing? I've never heard anyone actual describe it's gameplay. the only thing i've ever heard about it the word "raid" & you can't play the beginning. is it like warframe/the first decendant?
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>>573730714
>>573731953

>muh pve

lol lmao
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>>573750397
Did these people play any single player PvE extraction shooters? Road to Vostok? Maybe smaller titles like Duckov or Zero Sievert?
It's fun for a while until you finish progression, couple dozen hours in and you're done, shit gets dreadfully boring after a certain point. That's not a good foundation for a high budget live service. The point is player interaction, which really means PvP engagements. That's the point of the game, loot is just means to an end and way of establishing the stakes. That's why everything in the map is geared towards sparking conflict.
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>>573741113
i like complex's design as a dungeon and you can get to the end chamber pretty quick with the know-how
but god damn does it take forever. have to farm certs, hunt down the labs key, do the puzzle, then clear waves + the warden, fuck dude. and if you're solo? forget about it, T3 lockbox is the best you can do in time
and then there's counters
>hunt
>defenders have a building and traps to play home alone with, and get darksight on success so they can push out
>tarkov
>most stuff is quiet or fast enough to get-in-get-out before rotates come
>rust
>defenders get strong positions, counters have to cross through the open or some other vulnerable state (or risk a minicopter or keycard)
>marathon
>everything is loud as fuck and audible from across the map, 90% of rewards are out in the open, most shit takes forever, you're often besieged by bots who will always chip the fuck out of you, there's a million angles to counter from, the ground you're holding typically sucks, any defender's advantage can be swiftly nullified and/or stalemated with a grab-bag of bullshit like bubbles and molotovs and recon and assassin, you need to do a bunch of shit for some events that counters get to bypass completely because you did it for them, etc. etc.
you should be able to counter. i like events for generating engagements. but you should also be strongly favored for seizing the initiative

>>573745890
>proves that having an mba doesn't make you intelligent
i think this should be defaultly assumed of anyone who decides to get a degree in "business". i can't think of a more retard-coded degree. lemme uhhhh lemme get a degree in uhhhh money
that being said i think the decision to keep the game alive and continuing to fund development is still the wise one. this isn't a movie, something one-and-done where it can't be saved. or concord where it's fundamentally doomed in every measure
this one has a vast and oceanic soul, and given the right decisions, it will blossom inshallah
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>>573751276
Dadfaggots and workfaggots don't have 5 hours a day, every day, to farm materials and items, then set up meta loadouts and actually learn to use them to kill teams.
It's over for Marathon, game too hard
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>>573751610
I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill with some of those complaints, but I do think that doing each stage of road to complex and activating the final event should lock down previous segment and shit out more and stronger bots there (so first room gets a bunch of assaults and ghosts instead of 4 recruits etc), so a contesting team doesn't just get a free fucking ride in. It would also give defending team a chance to notice someone is after them.
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>>573751993
>don't have 5 hours a day, every day
Rookie hours by the way, I play over 10 hours a day.
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>>573752041
>I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill with some of those complaints
yeah, maybe
i guess the more succinct way to put it is that i feel like the risk/reward feels fucked-out-of-whack
events drawing in pvp is cool, events being harder to do than they are to counter notsomuch
or rather being vulnerable while doing an event is fine. local counters should have an advantage. it's lame when events are long enough and loud enough that you're still vulnerable when global counters pull up
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>Cryo tips/guide video
>It's just some grifter spouting off random bullshit while 90% of their gameplay and reason for success is just that they're using a Misriah
>See someone post a cryo clip on twitter
>"Epic 1v3!!!!"
>Shock horror they're holding a misriah and the team they 1v3 doesn't have one
>Everyone in the community refuses to publicly acknowledge that the main determining factor in if you do well or not in cryo is just whether or not you have a Misriah
why is everyone so fucking delusional and pretending that this fucking aids bullshit gun is actually totally balanced and fine despite literally everyone admitting they want them and most players saying high tier loot rooms aren't worth it if you don't get a misriah out of one

Bungie will bend over backwards to kick the KKV and Copperhead in the dick for abusing white and green shields, but somehow the Misriah gets a pass despite being *the* undisputed player killer that could give less of a fuck what shield you have, and somehow people don't think this is the most boring bullshit possible. Actually infuriating.
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>>573753729
>Everyone in the community refuses to publicly acknowledge that the main determining factor in if you do well or not in cryo is just whether or not you have a Misriah
factually wrong, like 90% of the discussion on leddit for the past 2 weeks at least is about how bubbles and mizzies are ruining the game and that cryo is unplayable because of it. Nerfs are coming for both of them with the mid season update according to a user saying that a dev lurks one streamer's chat and drops tidbits of info
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>>573753729
yeah nah this is the common opinion. i think. algorithmic social media and assorted silo'ing was a mistake
bubbles + shotguns is just plain retarded
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>>573753729
It's not the shotgun that's the problem. It's the map. Cryo is fucking horrible for PvP since realistically there's one engagement range - sub 15m, and if you somehow happen to be in a spot where there's more space, bubbles bring it back down under 15m again.
Even just removing bubbles would solve a lot of this issue. Right now the dynamic is - bubble is thrown and a roided up destroyer jumpdashes forward faster than opposing team can backpedal away from the bubble and out of kill range. A funny solution would have been bubble blocking Destroyer and Vandal and dealing damage if they slam into one at full speed... alas.
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>>573755196
>It's not the shotgun that's the problem. It's the map
It literally is the shotgun though, since a majority of high stakes ranked matches on every map are just misriahs, bubble shields and mobility shells still
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>>573750397
What trailers did this mouth breathing retard watch??
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>>573756185
The og cinematic one with assassin/destroyer/recon probably. I do agree with him though that the actual marketing material for this game gives off a completely different vibe then how the game actually plays. Every match is just hunting down other players like it's slayer or something, there's no real sense of doing proper mercenary work since 90% of our problems comes from runner on runner violence instead of the bots or ayyy lmaos fucking us

There's a huge ludonarrative dissonance with the game, except for some very specific instances where the game and the player's goals align with the world building (basically anything involving durandal and arachne)
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>>573756165
>>573755196
Don't forget that signal jammer also plays into it, pop one of those and suddenly defense options to punish rushing players just don't matter either
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>>573759291
>90% of our problems comes from runner on runner violence instead of the bots or ayyy lmaos fucking us
no disrespect to the pve enjoyers of the world but this is kind of necessary for extraction shooters to function realistically
it's why i dropped arc raiders. well, that and the progression was completely retarded and nigh nonexistent. but the hugbox shit was the real killer
and i'm not even a 'chad' so-to-speak, it's just that when the overwhelming majority of your encounters with other players are friendly, the game ceases to function beyond 2 weeks of novelty. it causes infinitely more problems than it solves. turns the game into essentially just a really shit MMO
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Why didn't Bungie think of the casual problem, and make a simple, cookie cutter easy game
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The Internet has created this narrative that sweats and try hards are the norm… they are not. Game developers have not exactly helped because they screw up like in marathon Season 2 and when they try to put it right, they do such an awful job at doing g so, the cause normal people to be greatly disadvantaged. This is not about ability or commitment… it’s about social media creating a narrative and game devs not realising which side their bread is buttered. This is not about game genre or gaming ability.
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>>573751276
Theres a difference between tarkov and this where if you want to avoid pvp entirely you can do so in tarkov and be successful, but the stress of it potentially happening is still there.
You cant avoid pvp in marathon, every system drives you to it.
It's more like hunt showdown in that its a game designed exclusively around pvp, but unlike hunt you lose your gear and its hard to restock so the experience is just shit
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>>573766613
>so the experience is just shit
If you're losing, HAHAHAHAH
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>>573750397
How do these people not have downtime in game
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>>573772521
>kin of the shitpile
enjoy your dead game, brother
you know, for as long as you can
make sure to check out horizon hunters gathering while you're at it
might be your new home
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>rumor that bungie's working on some borderlands thing for gearbox
truly a marathon humiliation ritual
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>dying to turret as rook
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>>573774013
>Bungie is now the support studio
would be absolute divine comedy
Truly, Bungie would be THE RAPED: the studio
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>>573764912
I'm not saying it shouldn't exist, just that it shouldn't be 90% of our runners' problems. Combat with other players really should be something that happens sporadically or is actually driven by something narratively beyond just "durr they have contracts too". It should not just always be guarenteed and especially not in such extreme measures. Just feels kind of retarded that our runner's first priority when dropping directly into enemy lines with a set time limit is not
>Alright, I need to watch out for the UESC, get my contract done and get out
instead it's
>I need to immediately kill every other merc here and until I do I'll just ignore the UESC and my contract lol
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>>573773537
What I liked doing on Marathon, I'll be doing on DMZ and Arc.
Arc is getting a new map this fall.
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>>573764912
it also makes getting killed by the rare person who isn't friendly very frustrating since ttk is so low. maybe some sort of faction or bounty system would make it more interesting idk
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>>573766324
>i try to play the game
>even in lowest rank i am fucked by people who play 50x more than me
>this is somehow social media narrative
kek, fuck off
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HOLY FUCKING BRVTAL
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>>573790032
Borderlands is so fucking ugly
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>>573790296
as much as marathon?
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>bigger maps with more vertical and horizontal obfuscation
>more bots, wildlife, patrolling PvE enemies
>LESS FUCKING TEAMS PER MAP

there, I fixed your game, easy 350k CCU minimum
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>>573791430
bigger maps would already solve the issue of having too many teams on a map
having bigger maps with less easy rotates would help but the issue of being a BR masquerading as an extraction shooter comes down to fights being too easy to take
forced squads means you have backup for every engagement (assuming you're not playing fill) and the outcome is always binary, you either win or you lose as opposed to something like tarkov where even if you kill someone you might take fatal damage you can't just heal
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>>573778892
>WAHHHHH I SUCK BUNGIE PLEASE RUIN THE GAME FOR ME
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>>573789804
You don't rank up by winning in PvP though
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>>573792578
"reduce player density" would be the most unambiguous way of communicating that desire
map expansions would still be greatly appreciated even with reduced team count thoughbeit, give a little more gradation between who can hear what from where

>>573778892
you don't need to lobby wipe for tasks, no? that's if you want all the primo loot without getting ganked
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>>573791430
No you made it a gay casualfest
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>>573790032
I was just thinking that it was nice that Bungie had the brief opportunity to make something cool before being forced to make Borderlands clones at gunpoint again.

Now that's literally the situation.
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>>573790032
>the source is literally a "trust me bro" /v/ thread
so this is what passes for journalism these days
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>Marathon losing to some game called SAND
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>>573797265
SAND: ******* of Sophie
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>>573751610
>this one has a vast and oceanic soul, and given the right decisions, it will blossom inshallah

Right on, sister. Inshallah.
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>>573791430
That and add in a PvP arena mode, relieve the stress on the extraction mode from people who aren't even playing the game for loot anymore and just want to fight people
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i am 80% convinced this was written by ai
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>>573793456
as opposed the current homosexual rape fest?

current Marathon is literally how gays are made irl, non-stop non-consensual ass-rape
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>>573802365
it's too bad the whole runner gangs thing is just fluff in skin descriptions because it's cool. they should have had us sorting up into actual squads that rep colors it would be cool
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are any of the analytical types in here that would know how reload speed works on shotguns? i have a conflict between putting a blue extra mag or a purple fastload mag on my mizzy.
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>>573802929
there's a traxus night marsh contract you have to complete while wearing a traxus shell skin, i thought that was neat
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>>573805613
nah... you misread it you can do that one without the skin, just goes faster :( bungie is afraid to do -anything- interesting with this world they've crafted
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>teammates have mics
>pleasant winning or losing experience, enjoying game
>teammates don't have mics
>game is unplayable

cool matchmaking
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stable 6k playerbase
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>all the destiny trannies that used to flood PS twitter replies with destiny spam got swallowed up by pro DISC nigger spam

love to see it
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>>573806851
I love to see people of all colors, cultures and interests shitting on Sony actually
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>>573750564
Destiny 2 was good in years 2 3 and 4. Destiny 2 year 1 and destiny 2 year 5 and after lmao
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>>573766324
Devs still want to be the "dark douls of" xyz genre. It's very rare a game that's hard and sweaty retains an audience it attracts. Too many competitors in the market. That's why arc is so casual and puts the try hards all together to pvp with each other.
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>>573790032
KEKL
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Haven't been in this thread in like a month, what are the vibes? I can't imagine they're good considering Bungie has basically gone MIA after the layoffs. I thought we might have gotten more PvE explanation by now, maybe this week.
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>>573813830
>Haven't been in this thread in like a month, what are the vibes?
Not great since the game is not in a good state and not much is happening.
>Bungie has basically gone MIA after the layoffs.
No, there was an update this week. 2, technically.
>I thought we might have gotten more PvE explanation by now, maybe this week.
It starts on the 21st, so next week would be reasonable.
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Uh there is a lot of layoffs in this developer.
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>>573806851
>pro DISC nigger spam
AHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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I actually believe Bungie will be working on an old IP, even a remake or remaster.
Bungie will not be trusted to develop a new game.

P.S. I will also be very happy to see Vault Breaker fail. PvE sissies suck my cock
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Vault Breaker will die, Perimeter update will die
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Marathon Sisters I have a good feeling August will be our month, it’s not over, PvE will bring everyone back
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what is vault breaker
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>>573745890
>250 million in the hole and rising
So Destiny 2?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/06/29/a-two-sentence-insider-report-on-why-destiny-2-died/
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>>573751993
I agree with the premise, but disagree with your reasoning.

Marathon is the easiest and most casual pvp extraction shooter i've played, and that's the real problem. The average dad gamer or shitter isnt meant to be getting into gun fights with other players. Those kinds of people are supposed to slink around the map like a scared rat and occaisonally stumble into a exciting kill or act as a loot pinata for better players.

For the first time over a million dad gamers got a taste of what extraction shooters boil down to and they don't like the taste. They long to walk along the edges of the map avoiding players, never firing their gun, and completing quests with 5 minutes to spare before exfil.

That's the kind of game they want and Marathon misunderstood them completely. This PvE shit they are cooking up, no one asked for it, and all the loud mouth D2 troons claiming they would play if they had patrols to farm wont be coming over for vault breakers, they wont be coming to play s3.

Bungie abandoned the PvP to make a game for no one.
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>literal resident whitoid schizophrenic psychopath
I came to see if I could get a premade but yeah I think I'm good.
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>>573831934
>BUT WHAT ABOUT DESTINY 2
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>>573832710
>whitoid
White website
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>>573832776
>BUT WHAT ABOUT DESTINY 2
Bungie is willing to waste a billion dollars making a game no one wants to play. That's my point about Destiny 2. Thinking they are going to just yank the plug on this shit because it has 6k players is laughable and a total over estimation of Bungie's sensibilities.
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What are the chances that they didn't announce a new map for season 3 because they plan to have an ARG in Vault Breaker to build up to it?
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>>573832582
>Bungie abandoned the PvP to make a game for no one

The pvp game they designed was clearly not appealing to much of anyone. Extraction elements are just tedium with how it is right now.
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>>573832582
You can do hat on Marathon easily
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>>573833490
cope
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>>573833490
Absolutely zero lol. If they had that almost ready they'd just fucking tell us so that the last twelve people playing don't also drop it
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>>573833490
Zero people will play Vault Breaker. Zero copies of Marathon sold this month
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They call me 007

0 sales
0 awards
7 vaults
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>last season Arachne was my biggest faction
>now it's my smallest
Contracting in PVE Night Marsh makes a man soft
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>he doesn't have big factions
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OCE paragraph Derumi poster where are you, I'm gonna nut on your face
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>>573848765
It was my least levelled last week and then it ended up becoming my highest since I spent forever trying to get Biomata Nodes to get the last capstone. Levelling them this season has been a chore
>>573851448
Sorry, I only let anons that aren't gay arm or chart posters do that and you seem like one of those people
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>>573855990
>let them do that
I don't want you to consent, I want you to try to resist
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>Marathon having a bum fight for extraction shooter last place with some tiny ass early access mil-sim slop probably made by 20 people
G R I M
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>>573831934
For Destiny 2, Marathon is closer to, 4 billion in the hole IIRC
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>>573860523
The one thing that does bother me when comparing this game to something like Tarkov and ARC is how slow the rate of new maps has been

Bungie even at 400 devs is still MASSIVE that they could easily outpace any game in the genre in terms of content

They have an insane map in Cryo Archive that if they were to make another end game map like that it could last them for 3 whole seasons

But what the map really needs is another Outpost-tier mid season map that will give out purples like candy, sometimes to freshen things up is what a game needs
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>>573861302
On one hand I definitely think we do need new actual maps, but the playerbase is so low now that I'd be worried it would only make the queue times even more of a nightmare. Night Marsh gives good loot and is supposed to be the feature map for this season but it takes longer to get a non-sponsored run going than it does a random perimeter or outpost match does. It'd be fine if games could just start without needing a set amount of teams in a lobby or if the minimum team requirement was like 2 or something.

I'm still of the opinion that the biggest blow for this game catching on has been the fact that it's trios or nothing really. Every other extraction shooter plays well enough as a solo, but marathon has just been designed from the ground up to be trios only. Bungie insisting on this being the way is only gonna make it harder and harder for new people to get into and for remaining players to keep enjoying it (I say this as someone that's had to go back to playing fill queue cause my trio team has given up the game).
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>>573869807
>but the playerbase is so low now that I'd be worried it would only make the queue times even more of a nightmare.
That's a logical loop.
>We need more content to attract/retain players
>But adding more content splits the existing player base
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>>573851282
People who dont max melee are why I'm able to 3v1 entire teams with just the knife. Thank you for doing your part anon.
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>>573855990
>837k credits
jesus christ anon
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Nona status?
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>>573861302
>Bungie even at 400 devs is still MASSIVE that they could easily outpace any game in the genre in terms of content
Honestly kind of a caveat of their own making because the maps we have now are so incredibly dense and unique with everything feeling completely handcrafted down to the details outside of some of those prefab buildings. I just can't imagine it doesn't take monumental effort to create a single new map for this game
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>>573872957
>>573861302
>the maps are just too good and perfect and awesome sauce that it is actually a bad thing and that is why marathon has so few players because it is too good of a game
what level of cope we on lads
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>>573873972
While it clearly hasn't resulted in a healthy population, >>573872957 isn't really wrong, the maps are detailed/dense as fuck in a way that absolutely would take a huge amount of time. To take it in a negative direction, that's yet another mistake Bungie has made - yeah denser/more detailed/more unique is good, but is it worth the increased complexity/cost to make it that way? Signs point to no.
They have a fuckload of devs, and they do not use them efficiently or effectively.
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>>573861302
For reference, Valve employs a team of 300 on Deadlock which has infinite Valve money backing it and is a passion project of former DOTA devs and RoR2 dev yet is still only in closed alpha and receivers maybe 2 big updates in a year. That's with 300... I don't know how much 400 does but Deadlock also has about 50k-150k players at a given time with higher numbers after a major update before dropping to 50k, I'm not sure how Bungie and Sony plan to keep this alive for 7k and dropping when major updates don't seem to draw too many more players in.
I can't help but feel this is a band playing on the Titanic as it goes down situation
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>>573872853
sexo
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>>573870970
i can't imagine how bungie are dealing with this aside from slowly dropping it. it's a weird horrible place to be in. the game needs a massive amount of work and content to sustain itself and retain the people that enjoy it. but it also won't bring the people that tried and dropped the game back.
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>>573882016
The solution is to just improve the game. If Bungie do it right, people will come back. There isn't a single action or even a small set of actions they can take to bring the game back to launch numbers. They'll need to claw their way out of hell to survive. Whether they can do it fast enough before Sony changes its mind remains to be seen. I'm still wishing for the best since I've enjoyed my time with Marathon, and I'd like to keep enjoying it.
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>>573861302
>They have an insane map in Cryo Archive that if they were to make another end game map like that it could last them for 3 whole seasons
The current end game map didnt even last one season
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>>573884241
Variety is the spice of life.
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>>573884241
>>573883235
The amount of work this game needs is so much that you might as well make a new game. A Apex to this's titanfall.
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>>573885308
You know its bad when theres not even anyone around to take the bait. This general should just let itself page 10 already
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>>573885703
Truly spoken like someone who has never made a game before.
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>>573869807
Doing Night Marsh when Cryo is closed is an exercise in frustration. Last night every attempt at normal Night Marsh ended with getting nade spammed to oblivion by gold/purple 3-stacks. To contrast, Saturday night attempts were a good mix of tense fights and successful exfils.
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>>573875727
>Valve employs a team of 300 on Deadlock
you have it twisted, valve employs ~300 but only a fraction of that works on deadlock. it's not a team like bungie is a team, there is no hierarchy and no top-down directive telling who to work on what
the people interested in deadlock work on it, the people that are interested in HLX or source 2 development work on those, the people working on any number of experiments or pieces of hardware or whatever they find compelling just do that
and the janitor pushes a minor patch for TF2 every now and then, god bless his heart
anyways the point is, it's not 300 on deadlock
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>>573884241
Nah not really
Just because a few sweats managed to do compiler with their gold shield buddies doesn't mean the whole player base did

Some have yet to open vault 6
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would you rather have a d54 son or an overrrun daughter
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>>573891132
I'd rather have a game with new maps. Oh well
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>>573871710
>People who dont max melee
I never melee and no one is able to get point blank



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