Crimson Trousers EditionThe Wheel has turned once againDominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.>Our pastebin (extremely outdated)https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y>Steamgrouphttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya>Multiplayer guide/game hosting services>Hinaserver https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/548312356/#548526452https://hinaserver.net>Blitzserverhttps://blitzserver.net(Dom 6)https://beta.blitzserver.net/games>Llamaserver:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582>Documentationhttps://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html>Tools>Mod inspectorhttps://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/>Wikihttps://illwiki.com/>Pretender calculatorhttps://zollqir.github.io/pretenders-dom6/https://caleb-distributive.github.io/pretenders-dom6/ (website down?)>Debug modhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083231618>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)https://instacalc.com/53495>Automatically prevent starts in all provinces with less than X connections (still dom5)https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/dom5ranmapnos/>How do I change the fonts?Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)>Fan arthttps://thronebooru.booru.org>Sloop’s Comfy Balance Modhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing>other asynchronous strategy gamesSolium Infernum.Previous Pantokrator>>572757889
First for chudes
The illfriends are in their mid-50s, so dominions 7 may happen yet!
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>>573341006Cute!!!!!!!!
>>573341006>unerringly goes for the tentaclesAs expected of sketchanon! cute morvarc'h in the background
>TURN 36 OF THE ARENAMictlan sent some friendly invitations to get more friends to the party.>wild huntBit of an odd case because the assassinations do appear as being from the caster, but the caster has no control at all.Since the attacks won't conquer provinces or set them under siege and is not controllable, I'll let it pass as a valid move.Lanka still controls the arena. Unfortunately he's also patrolling so I couldn't see if anything happened in the arena this turn, but it doesn't look like, given the almost 600 troops, apparently mostly undead trash, sitting there.Point for Lanka!
>>573339486A staunch line of spears is all you need.
>>573325656
>>573344356You are mixing up the monkey nations again!Here's the only battle that you didn't see (not including assassination battles)Lanka took the province from Kailasa, I assume the Oracle teleported away
>>573344879Right, Kailasa controlled the arena last turn, not Lanka.But Lanka does now. The point tally is correct, I did call Kailasa last turn.
>>573344356I'm not patrolling for some reason everything stealthed is being caught and just dying instantly in the arena now. Might be bugged.
>>573341434I can't really do cutesy stuff, so...
>>573347228you're always selling yourself short! You have drawn caelians and piconye that were at -least- cutesy-adjacentIt's out of your usual oeuvre and wasn't fair to ask of you, but you are a talented man and you can convincingly all sorts of scenes.
Gnight domg
Good old enchanted blood undying, nothing beats that
https://hinaserver.net/game/70MArginalized_Gods begins in 24 hours. If you wanna try Divinitus’s Pretenders now is the time. For the map, I was thinking of brain_daMAge’s but I can use another or give hinaserver’s mapgen a spin.
>>573355418Don't use that map it sucks. The geography is horrible and you're fucked if you spawn on that island as something that can't enter the water. I felt so bad for pyrene who got to play sim city the entire gamet. played in the game it was made for
any tips for playing lemuria or other undead spam nations?
>>573360530Then what? Mapgen?
>>573366398Beg everybody else not to take a magic weapons bless
Yep time to write more wholesome MA Ulm fanfic with chatgp
>>573366398Research Enchantment 4
Ulm maidens with delicate hands
>>573372606You really think Ulmish women would be delicate?You can't breed proper Ulmish stock with delicate.They would would be big fat german batlle axes. Except for the vampire women maybe
>>573373157Surely the ones crafting fire pearls and trinkets instead of armors all day or blessing troops/throwing rocks
>>573373157Isn't the vampire queen horribly wide?
Thanks for the Gems idiots! Enjoy the horrors!
>>573376110idk if you saw me taking my turn and decided to post this but 1. I do not have enchant 8 and 2. I do not have enough Astrals to 'safely' throw them away.I am not casting disenchantment this turn, but it will most likely be next.
>>573376110YAMERO
>>573377150Lel
>>573376110He'd still get gaped in the arena
>Buy beastmaster commander>Pair her with dogs>Morale still -1 despite commander having an ability stating she will boost animals morale???
>>573382810Half the beastmaster commanders are pointless because their base leadership is so garbage compared to your normal 100 leadership guys
>>573382810click one of the dogs and check their morale to see the bonus you get from beastmaster. the morale you see on the screen with the commander showing is just their baseline leadership ability, not any bonuses from stuff like beastmaster and taskmaster
>>573382991can be true unless the animal wranglers you buy have tight rein, which is so incredibly useful.
>>573382991>>573383009Beastmaster (3) has the tight rein trait too i think? dogs have same morale as human units (13) yet they are -1 when paired with the beastmaster
>>573383397yeah that is the tight rein ability. so he can also lead any undisciplined summons and give them orders like a normal commander could. just forge him some items to increase how many units he can lead and will be very useful for lots of summons
ONE BILLION HONEYBADGERS
>>573383590Tight rein is lowkey a very good ability, a lot of summons become significantly better the moment you can get them to hold still for buffs (especially fliers, since it also means you get to set them to attack rear and stuff)
Warhammer 2026, lets go!!When do we start!?!?
>>573388271This friday
nobody does rainbow tendies anymore
Can someone explain how the AI monkeys are not only still alive but apparently thriving?I'm mildly tempted to put up Vengeful Water but I'll limit myself to just the sun for cancer globals, I want to see lategame shit that never gets cast get slung around. I know at least Nemon has some research 9 stuff!>>573391463I think people got tired of taking statsresist blesses
>>573391463Most of the stat resist blesses got nerfed, rightfully so rainbows were rampant for most of dom 5. Every game had 5 sacred elf or cavalry nations with 5 resist all and a shitload of defense and or strength + magic weapons. It felt like all you could do was outnumber them, it was really hard to find any weaknesses to exploit as some nations.Shame they then added nidavangr though who can stat resist better than dom 5 nations could back then because every sacred is actually 3-10 sacreds
>>573383397>>573382991>>573383009>>573383147>>573382810sloops fixes this
>>573391463I do
>>573376518Hope you don't waste them on mine. I've been 100% dedicated to mass bloodhunting since turn 5. That global is staying where it is
>TURN 37 OF THE ARENA>learn to distinguish the monkey nations, they matter!Point for Vanheim!
My giants. . .nyoh
>>573401041Forgot to add:i assumed taking the arena would be easier with nobody able to cast rituals or craft stuff, seems like i was wrong
Ur, Lanka, your contributions will be remembered.
>TURN 38 OF THE ARENAUr easily takes the arena with a huge army from the leftover Vanheim troops.Muspelheim arrives and rolls over them, at the cost of half of their army.Then Caelum finally gets to see the "more mammoths" strategy pay off! For the first time, it successfully defeats an army of giants through sheer mammothness.It even manages to destroy the incoming army of Tirnanog elves, at the cost of most of the army!Additionally, it seems that Lanka has given up, at least sort of. According to his wishes, we'll be forcehosting if he's the last one left to do the turn.Point for Caelum!
>>573402263As additional comments, holy shit that's a lot of thunder
I'm pretty much out of the game but holy shit is it fun to wreck hoburgs. Turns out tramplers with a built in heat aura are the perfect counter against hordes of unarmored size 2 'burgs flying around with swans. It's like they're trying to maximize how many of them can catch fire at once.Shame I hadn't bothered to recruit any of these before losing all my army
>>573402901
I wish I had more gems
>>573407021We all do.
>>573407021>>573407507>imagine running out of gemsThis message was brought to you by the blood hunting gang
>>573401480Astral corruption makes that casting anything other than blood has a chance to attract horrors. The more powerful the magic, the worse it is.Doesn't mean you're not able to cast, though
>>573407507I have 4 glamour gems per turn
>>573409073>Dark Knowledge in every province>not a single Death site
>>573408921this is why gigachads cast ordeal by fire instead. abysia is immune to the effect and it always happens
DODGE THIS MOTHERFUCKER
>>573402263Special mammoth bonus for my own mages shadowblasting like ten of then on the second turn.
>>573409569That's where a rainbow pretender gets useful.
Should have a disciple game where I have a search slut disciple
Noice
>>573420598>Disciple gameI have re-read it over and over and still dont understand what it is, like, you control a single commander instead of self insert as the pretender?
>>573423958If regular dominions is free for all then disciples is team mode. One person designs a tendie the usual way while the others design a tendie with only magic. Everyone on the team then has the same bless and scales. Then teams fight over thrones.
>>573424963Uh, sounds complex, might check it later
Sex with whatever faction has the purest girls
sex with goats to make more pans
>>573429925please confine your passions to fallen receptacle-tier nations like pyrene or hinnom
>>573402901So Cersith was a fun faction. Expensive, poorly armoured, but powerful troops with Fire/Earth/Death mages. What would you say prevented you from winning the game?
>>573439525Deal
>>573420751>Life underneath the waves corresponds in many ways to that on dry land.Do mermaid girls really?
>>573341006slice of life like that knight in the background is pure SOVLthank you for blessing this thread
>>573429925unironically any nation that has blood magicYou need actual virgins to cast spells
>anon molested the blood fountain cunny again
>>5734398711200 gold palisades. Couldn't spam them but it barely made a difference because all my troops are 57 recruitment points (except the couple chariots, which are 82) so I could only produce about 4-5 units per fort per turn. Like 7-8 in the capital. Just way too slow.Also, the nation works great in high heat provinces. The heat aura was a huge help. But as soon as I tried stepping outside into a cold province, the army got obliterated quickly. Being few in numbers actually matches well with the heat aura because enemies surround you, so more of them are affected by the aura at once. But without the aura, and with no armor or helmets, they just melt too quickly on equal ground.The poison bow archers and slingers that produce a small poison cloud are fucking brutal, though. I managed to mass up a big bunch of those in my first war and they straight up deleted everything. Unfortunately, being so few in numbers made it impossible to cover the flanks properly and a big batch of sacred multiattack lion riders from my first opponent got to them.All in all, pretty fun and very strong, but simply too expensive. Alone having average forts might have been made the difference
VAETTIHEIM DO YOU BLOODY TURN YOU BLOODY BASTARD BITCH
>>573447052Birb
surely everyone in the upcoming games picked nice thematic pretenders and blesses and we have no tyhards this go around? :)
>>573453427>9 bong rip mcgee pretenders>1 guy on nidavangr equivalent with the most vile bless imaginable who fights off 3 people at the same time and gets wrath of god up on turn 30
Whoa, thanks for the cool unit Illwinter.
>>573402901kum
>>573454667i thought they sucked looking at them but i guess it's just the length 4 repel doing work? the gnu itself also has 2 attacks to harass
>>573454828they would be really quite good desu if the mount had any armor. length 4 spear on an armored 2 attack mount would be pretty legit but they have the same problems as helhirdings and they definitely aren't helhirdings
>>573454667Oh no! (might be a morale thing)
>>573455914It wasn't a morale thing though it wasn't an equal resource cost
>>573454360I miss old 15 death gem income ermor leaving his capital turn 15 with 400 giga blessed lictors immediately going from irrelevant to THE THREAT and causing geopolitical shitstorms as everyone plays patty and hot potato trying to find a bag holder willing to sacrifice themselves to the skelehorde to buy enough time for someone else to become the pankoman.
Ubar, stop your seducing magic girls orgies in your golden palaces and do your turn.
>>573341006I don't like where this is going.
>>573461971Don't be jealous.
>>573463623I'M NOT JEALOUS IN MY FREEZING TOWERS. I MEAN, MAMMOTHS ARE FINE TOO.
Been reverse engineering Dom 5 with the clankers for over a month now this shit is so got damn confusing and moving so slow especially the target selection for spells.It might take another month or two but I will finish it.
Pardon me?
QUICK CAST EVERYTHING YOU GOT WHILE YOU CAN
>>573473029Update it to Dom 6 and make a browser-based battle simulator
>>573473029Based fellow hacker.This shit is so much easier when you can just chuck a ghidra function at claude and go make a coffee.
>>573473029what strange secrets may be unearthed...
Bruh
>>573474016Good job
>>573475452Sounds like the perfect chance to recruit some Kappas!
Nobody wants to deal with timmy cave/water nations in MP, that was a mistake
>>573477860Spoken like a true discord player
>>573477860Cave nations are based
If an immortal unit with a cursed item dies do they still lose the item?I assume so yes?
i love modshit. also, i have 4 monastery of light sites so far. is this just crazy luck or what?
>>573477860Babies when you try to feed them asymmetry.
>>573473294Yup. I’m stuck on my corner, until I can fight off that throne.
>>573475452I did ask if we are going for Mapgen or another pre-made map. I could rehost.
>>573474016A big thank you to both Ur and Lanka, who made major contributions to this.
>>573477860I've never minded seeing a cave nation in the game. Agartha's always fun.
>>573490203The only one that sucks to get matched against is EA Abysia or ea/la xibalba if they have a very favorable cave system
>>573339486Strongest
>>573473029Heh I was doing this myself in my spare time occasionally>>573474221I'm surprised it can even get through illfraud's spaghetti, I've had success with it on a small scale I guess but I've also been naming structs and functions on my way through so it doesn't need to make sense of automatically assigned labels. It's really too bad they didn't accidentally leave in the debug symbols againI also think I recognize some of those field names
Right in the middle of an important war and I can't be bothered scripting properly.Hopefully my opponent is even lazier than me
>>573485406On the one hand I like variety in maps and the different logistical challenges they might bring, but on the other hand holy shit is this map linear if you start on the edges. It's like getting stuck on the galactic rim in a space game. In that sense I realized I fucked up a little by not just immediately straightlining toward the center and claiming my inner territories after establishing a border.
>TURN 39 OF THE ARENAC'tis tried his best, but Abysia brought more firepower, pun intended.Point for Abysia!
>remember to use creative pretenders and not just simple expanders!Haha. . .whoops
>>573497185Not a chance. Poor lizards.Also, astral corruption has been dispelled. Let's see for how long!
>>573497185At least that random Barbarian and Wolf I had lying around are finally gone and I can stop waiting for them to die.Everything will chance once I manage to get my other options going. I promise.
>>573497552>onceThere's 11 turns left, you might wanna speed up with that
>>573497640I'm trying my best, I'm almost there, I swear. I'm definitely not going to change my research target again.
>>573493168Oh yes, you failspand once or didn’t bring a Monster Expander? You ain’t getting out of your corner, meanwhile the Top/Bottom spawn eat 30% of the map, but that’s ok. The bigger your enemy, the more provinces you have to attack
>long term strategy finally coming to fruition>game's already almost finishedI think I miscalculated how long this would take. Oh well
>>573485718limiting Atlantis to a reasonable cucklake and having actually connected provinces would be nice
>>573485406The map seems surprisingly chokepointy in places. I guess I've gotten used to wraparound maps.Feels good to be amphibious
What's the scoreboard for the Arena game looking like, by the way?>>573499832wew
>>573402901>>573403085jesus christ how could you
>>573489319I just wasted 160 astrals casting disenchantment for no reason
I probably should've just stormed right away, but my paranoia got the better of me.I'm also once again asking how none of you ever finished off the AI monkes.I meant to do a little writeup on the elephants but never got around to itI think investing in twiceborn was a mistake, as fun as huge wight mages are. The proot mages already had incredible bodies for thugging and there's cheaper ways to get higher death, and the gems would've been better spent on staves and stuff like Shade Beasts to fight me in the dark.Ignoring your sacreds probably was the correct play, though maybe you could've gotten a couple to poke at me if I forgot to leave anyone in the rear. As cool as flying elephants are, they're hideously expensive for what you get.I was really surprised to not see any soul vortex batteries- casting regen on any elephant troop would let them outheal it pretty much indefinitely, allowing for unlimited evocations and skellyspam and whatnot for a D mage with bodyguards.Earthquake also would've been a good play early war- I didn't have mass floating yet, and though my cap-only mages do levitate all my others probably would've gotten wrecked.You also had a conjuration bonus site you never labbed, what the hell, use that shit, get some cheap gnomes and shade beasts or something
>>573502245700 PD monkes mass shooting arrows at anything that comes close slowed things down a lot. Nationgen' PD is fucking brutal
Absolutely brutal
>>573502947That'll do it. I have noticed that the PD is kinda psychotic on forts in particular. I scored a big win early on vs the elephants with a PD dump, and I didn't even have to dump that hard to get a huge army.
>>573503228Fuck me that's a lot of manlets
>>573502149You'll get them back, you have Stellar Focus.
>>573502245You seem to forget the economic side. Ignoring the fact Ziz died early in my expansion period, which led to me needing to buy 30 priests to resurrect him, I had no research monkey. My Death 2 Mage was my research mage, but he was a Tusked One and thus, horribly expensive. The Twice born was useful for turning Death gems (which I was swimming in) into gold (which I lacked). You saw no impressive magic, like Soul Vortex, Darkness or Shade Beast spam because it would’ve been impossible for me to achieve such a thing in such a short time. I gunned for Ench 4 specifically for Twiceborn to protect my economy while spamming out mages. Even if I had a pretty aggressive Bless (that you hard countered by being immune to fire and heavy infantry specialist) I never had the money to recruit my flying Elephants. My biggest mistake that game (besides the first death of my Pretender) was not scouting enough. As a size 7+ Giant nation, my economy is my weak point as is a straight up fight against a Size 3 Nation. I should’ve told Angorburg to go shove it and waited for them to engage you, *then* picking a size and ganking the other. The map fucked me over too. The fact that you, a non-swimmer nation could cross those islands meant you had a backdoor into my core territory that I simply could not account for. My biggest mistake, by far, was being over confident. I won the first Nationgen as Cerssith and while I lost the second as Team Helenus, I was certain that Death Giants with 2 Attacks was gonna carry me. It would’ve! If I was a bit more prudent and kept my head down! Ah but next time, it’ll be different! I’ll be the bio-punk Hoburgs and I’ll show Agorburg how you spam vinemen
>>573503257That’s Nationgen Early War 101. You bait someone into a fort PD dump and that’s the game. Its the start of a death spiral on certain nations. A Lamia/Giant/Dust Walker/Asmeg nation is completely fucked if they lose their early army to a PD bait. That’s why rushing fort building on border choke points is so important. Maybe even the Nationgen meta.
>>573505738Ah, fair enough. I figured you were struggling in terms of gold but not quite that hard.I did have to swim to get onto the bottommost of the islands, but my cap mages float so it saved me a lot on airbreathing items, and once the troops were over I could ferry said items back.
>>573503228That was a nice bottle to watch.How the fuck do you record a nice simple webm
>>573506912When you pulled out Banefire I knew it was over. You could expand and pillage, while was stuck at lvl 4 Magic. I won’t sit here and say I couldn’t have made Vortex Regen, Darkness Shades or Earthquake spam while also fighting you off. I did buy 30 priests as I said. As for the Conj site, again, I had Death gems, but my Nature gems were going into Cauldrons because Tusked Ones eat several trees a day per troop. And since I was fighting into your dominion, I had even less supplies and all my troops were dying. I played badly, I will not deny it, but I was dealt a bad hand as well. As opposed to my Cerssith game which went flawlessly.
>>573507760I did notice starvation was fucking you. The terrain definitely favored me, lots of low-supply mountains on our borders.
Im seeing some freaks (Tien Chi) that are real close to me in Vanilla Cream.Yall better HOPE you don't walk into UBar or you WILL regret it
>>573508654>Magic Weapons? Check>True Sight? CheckIt's time for a djinn pogrom
>>573509393suck my big blue genie cock Ting-Tong-Ching-Chong
>>573491167Check the dom5 mac binary, that one used to still have debug symbols.
Ghost Grip
SEIGE GOLEM
Why are horses so weak to magic anyway?
>>573527892dumb animals cant think as good as humans/magesIt's also why Ulm has lower MR
>>5735278924 legs
>>573527892devs are carnists who fell into the "non-human animals are lesser" trap
Useless ditz
>>573527892All horses in Dominions are descended from one very retarded pankohorse. Previously horses were great wizards, but time has decayed their once proud nation.
>>573527892All horses in Dominions are descended from one very mighty pankohorse. Previously horses were great wizards, but time has decayed their once proud nation due to crossbreeding with retarded humans
>>573530043>>573530815Early Early Age when?
>>573527892Umas are dumb
>>573528242It makes sense. Ulm units have a lot of HP for a human chassis. And HP stands for horse points.
This should be enough to win the game
>>573539763Okay maybe not, time to retreat and take other thrones and hope horrors smash theirs
Arenamin, Lanka's last and asked to be forcehosted if so
Guys you bullied lanka into quitting, not cool
So Naba did the correct thing and still didn't even get close. Fists of Iron just demolish thugs, and mirror image buys me more than enough time. Just wait until I start doing hellpower -> wrathful skies bullshit.Maybe with luck, a spell focus for fools luck AND quickness those 3 could have done it. Realistically you need a significant amount of chaff to tank shots before your thugs hopefully wade in.
Whats the best way to use Berserkers? I get that you put armored troops up front to do the damage and lighter, more damaging troops on the sides. But Berserkers SHOULD get hit, at least a bit, so do you place them at the front?
>>573552648Buff them then
I've got a hundred hours in dom5 singeplayer but still barely understand this game. I got dom6 on sale is multiplayer good for noobs? Am I gonna get bullied?
>>573553318Not really but you can have fun anyway by kingmaking and ruining some tryhard asshole redditor's game by suiciding into him
>>573529768Cute though
lemurian gf
>>573476546These are not kappas, those are fat, balding guys in kappa suits!>>573559327Good morning.
>>573562272ghost friend?
>>573507386>How the fuck do you record a nice simple webmOBS Studio perhaps
>>573562321They look like little George Costanzas
>>573562272Sexo
https://illwiki.com/dom5/dom6/new-player-guide
>>573569151I am Iliterate
YOINK
>>573553318The AI doesn't know how to play, so forget everything you've learnt.Just hop into multiplayer. If you can capture 12-15 provinces within the first 12 turns you won't stand out as a noob.Learn by doing. Use the inspector (see OP) liberally and focus each game on cheking out in depth a different aspect of the game (magic, items, etc.)
Question for the anons who play Divinitus every now and then: how are the gods in there? Are most of the crazy extra stuff world affecting, or useful in battle? Are there a few super buff ones that really stand out in battle and everything else is more about out-of-battle stuff?I need to know for reasons
>>573579310My noob self finds them cool, not sure how srong/weak/gimmicky they are in comparison maybe an actual expert can chime in
>>573579814Hell yeah! You'll totally catch me preaching at the great cathedral of the bush
is gateway worth it?10 pearls is pretty expensive but combined with a whip and crown you can instantly move 260 dudes 6 tiles
>>573580074It's absolutely worth it.Teleporting your god +200 units into a fort that's about to be stormed can be game winning.Or if you need to pivot quickly to a different war front
Fucking fat bird meme
>>573579310Some don't do anything in battle, some do one big spell in battle, with the rest being about scales or free spawn etc. and some are only good for battle.
>>573579310>>573580854Most gods are about out of battle stuff though
>TURN 40 OF THE ARENAMictlan finally reveals the long awaited strategy: vampire lords! It did not work.As a side note: a vampire cast Winds of Death, but the effect didn't happen. Could it be that Firestorm cancels it out?Point for Abysia!
>>573581485what in oblivion is THAT?
>>573581485With ten turns left in the arena, let's take a look at the current tally!Our latest newbie is still at the helm with 8 points! I'm not sure if he'll win because he probably has no idea what to do with late game magic, but I think it's remarkable that he's been in pole position for 80% of the game, without ever losing the lead.Now that there's not many turns left, I want to remind everyone that turn 50 is the last one we will play out, and whoever controls the arena on turn 51 will gain 5 points instead of 1. You might want to start planning for the final battle.>>573579814>>573580854>>573581171Thanks anons. That's helpful>>573581629Closest thing you can add as an Islam-inspired pretender without risking an IRL visit of sacreds with a death explosion bless
>>573582313>I'm not sure if he'll win because he probably has no idea what to do with late game magicNo clue whatsoever i just see my stuff dying and get big sad, i am just banking gems and hoping whatever global i will cast wont fuck me over once i march with everything on the last turn
>>573582897Just spam summons.
>>573581485Weird
YOU ARE ALL SCREWED
I am personally partial to "Factory" type pretenders as i dont run the risk of losing them in battle like a moronbut this one does look abit tiny strong to me
Now that the first great arena is approaching its end, and before launching an MA edition, I want to offer a change of pace.Have you ever wished you got to use more of the big toys? Do you think titans are cool but too expensive to be used? Well now's the fucking time to go balls to the wall.Welcome, my friends, to THE GREAT DUEL ARENA.>one age mod>debug mod: everything unlocked, +99 every gem per turn, bunch of 999999 magesLimits>pretenders must be awake or dormant, non-immobile, non-acquatic>casting Wish to increase pretender stats is forbidden>patrolling, PD and global spells are forbidden>the 999999 mages can't leave the capital, they're only there to craft items>any transgressions will be swiftly rolled back followed by AI'ing>20 turns forcehost to ensure everyone wakes up>3 turns prep time>randomly arranged 1 on 1 duels only, tournament style. Each winner moves on to the next phase against another winner until a champion is determined>surviving losers must move immediately to the Pit of Death, where they must fight a great brawl. Last survivor (or last holding the Pit when a champion is determined) gets to fight the champion for a chance to steal final victory>everyone should use scouts to ferry new items for their god. Province connections will be arranged to make it easy>"muh afflictions" skill issue, invest in recuperationNo pauses, no rest turns. Just a few crazy, no holds barred fights as a palate cleanser.Starting the exact day the Great Arena ends, so probably in 10 days or slightly less. Will probably be a very short game, just a handful of turns. A quick palate cleanser before the Great Arena MA Edition.
>>573588453>forgot linkhttps://hinaserver.net/game/73
>>573588453This sounds fucking retarded, I'm in.
>>573588453What next, we're playing counter-strike with blood slaves?
>>573588453How are you handling artifact items?
>>573588453>>20 turns forcehost to ensure everyone wakes upThis kills the mictlan
>>573588453what da fuck are 9999 mages
>>573588453Rules clarifications:>triads are not allowed>pretenders who bring some chaff as company by default are fine>duels are pretender vs pretender only>>573589338Don't tempt me>>573589359One per turn. Your choice whether to go for the good stuff and risk someone else snagging it first>>573589731If there's a Mictlan, I'll let turn 1 be played so he can get a guy blood saccing>>>573589806Debug is a mod for testing stuff. It unlocks all spells and gives you a bunch of F9W9N9... mages.
>>573590013So i assume dominion buff blessings dont work in that situation? for example Fenrir buffing his small doggos as he is out of his dominion for the arena fight?
>>573590428If you get very high dominion you might be able to push it out during the 20 forcehosted turns, but I doubt it'll pay off and it's probably unlikely to work at all
>>573579310The worst of the worst are stuff like the Golden Pillar and the Devourer of the Deep (Dagon but with a Monster Fish Head). Golden Pillar causes a map wide earthquake when its killed for the first time and Devourer eats Thrones. There’s a few other powerful ones, Baphomet is a good example. He’s bugged and his Fallen Angels spawn much more commonly than intended. But if you mean one that straight up beats anything thrown at it… no?There’s none that can cast free Wish or free Globals. There’s some elemental pretenders that debuff enemy globals by leeching off of them and some that summon other demi-pretenders over the course of Year 1 and early Year 2 (Earth Made Flesh, Lord of the Wilds) but none that are an insta-win. A Divinitus Pretender can completely flip its Nation on its head, but much like a Bronze Colossus, there’s counters to them
>>573591029>Golden Pillar causes a map wide earthquakeHow uh, dangerous is that? so to speak
>>573587971There’s one for Nature, one for Water, one for Demons, one for Undead and maybe more (I haven’t memorised them all yet). Fire Pillar is not a generic one though. Only Deep/Desert/Rhuaxian nations can select it and Fire Resistance is a common thing, since F Evocations are really powerful. One of my faves is the Celtic/Gaelic/Fae exclusive Unseelie Empress, makes your capital capable of pumping out Unseelie Knights in full Gossamer Plate as well as any other fort under Fata Morgana.
>>573592749I picked it for muspelheim and having a BLAST scorching the map, gonna check the others
>>573588453 >>573588624Don’t forget that unless you get lucky, you need Construction Lvl 1 to unlock Magic Item research, so you need to spend a turn on that (just set Magic Research to very easy and pray no one picks Drain 2 or factor that into the grace period) Be very careful when crafting certain magic items (like the Chest item that buffs Blood and Nature, the Arena Champion Items and Pretender Exclusive Items like the Helmet of Invisibility), you might craft nothing and waste your artifact crafting turnDo make sure to check each fight, in case someone Wishes for a Dragon or Great Mother and Divine Names them into a dummy-pretender while they buff their actual oneI think that’s about it? Your rules are solid otherwise
>>573592109Oh you won’t lose more than 10% of your population… in all your Provinces. But that’s like winning the lottery, most will only lose 1-4%. And besides, its an Immobile, it won’t die on its own. Ya need to kick it over.
>>573593042Idol of Harvests on Jotunheim is based. Give the scythe to your Werewolf giant since he’s a shapechanger
>>573593506>need construction 1Oh shit, I didn't notice that the research technically isn't there. The 99999 dudes simply can cast everything, but they still can't craft.Let's make it simple: we play turn 1 so everyone can set up the 99999 mage dudes to research and order to start with Construction up to level 9. You have like 3500 research points, so after the 20 forcehosted turns you'll have everything at 8, and whatever you picked (reasonably construction but you do you) at 9.Note that if you don't specifically say "research 9", you won't research anything to level 9.>you might craft nothing and waste your turnBig danger. May ambition be perdition.>trickery with dummy pretendersGood catch. Renaming won't be allowed. Pretender names are visible in the server, so it won't be possible to sneak in a fake one.
>>573579310I ultimately didn't join because I was already in too many games, but there's some really spicy stuff. I was toying around with MA Agartha, and they've got options including one that lets you recruit olms at every fort like you're EA Agartha (and get olm sages too) and another that has a chance to spawn free marble oracles, an item that casts Divine Name on sacred magic beings for free, and gives a mindless magic being commander in their province +1E every month up to 3. Turning your statues into free mages aside, golems with E3 also sound scary as hell.
>>573593506>>573594828doesn't whoever forges Mage Bane basically win on the spot? I guess a fastcaster could presumably land a spell first.
>>573593707That doesnt sound too bad for enemies
>>573595656Make one and show us
>>573595908I have an arguably even cheesier tactic hidden up my sleeve. You don't actually have to kill your opponent as long as you win the fight, right?
>>573595795A blood/unrest/scales nation won’t appreciate losing all that income, but MA Ermor won’t care, yea
>>573596049There must be a fair fight: any casting against others out of battle is not allowed, as are tricks like drowning a province, etc..Within the battle itself, everything goes.
>>573596049Bronze Colossus with horror harmonica obviously
>>573596565Close, but no cigar. You can't morale break most tendies, anyways.
>>573594828Oh no, you have access to everything at Con 1. But not at Con 0. Everything. And you have access to all Lvl 9 spells at lvl 0 too. Artefacts are still a one-time thing too. With no Global Magic and Pretender v Pretender only (but assassinations and teleport run-ins still allowed?) the Debug Mages can only intervine in a few ways, but that still includes Soul Slaying via Mind Hunt, Wizard Tower/Three Red Seconds forts (not that it matters it would just be rude), stuff like Wolven Winter to fuck over Heat Power Pretenders (based) , Casting 10 Fires From Afar before Teleporting in the Pretender to stop the victim from turn end healing… maybe other stuff too?Since only the Pretenders can leave, there’s no Amulet of Disease via undead scout, but the Pretenders themselves could do it, via a Fort to stall the attacker/defender.
Mindless commanders are completely immune to insanity, right?
>>573588453>>573588624One last question: is Empowering Allowed? With 99 gems per turn per type, you can eventually learn every magic path
>>573598168Yes, but Bronze Colossus cannot use Gift of Kurgi
>>573604225I think the duel format allows for more interesting theorycrafting than a free for all, which would just favor melee blenders above all else.Make sure there's a good surplus of mages, since blood tendies will need to summon scouts to ferry slaves since teleport gems doesn't work for them.
>>573604579>>573597002Looks like my wording was too vague.>1 on 1 duels only, tournament style>the 999999 mages [are] only there to craft itemsNo mindhunting, no fires from afar, etc. etc. The debug mages are only there to craft shit. Teleporting items and gems to the pretender is OK too.Things that don't directly attack or harm anyone and don't cause a fight, like messing with a province's weather, are OK.There will only be about 3-4 battles for each winning pretender (since half the contenders are being eliminated every turn, so even with 12 we're quickly going down to 6 > 3 > 1, and then the final battle vs whichever loser managed to climb back out of the Pit). There won't be time to empower much, and pretenders will rarely be in a place with a laboratory so teleporting around also won't be an option except for corner cases, like a loser who retreated to the capital and teleports to the Pit instead of walking in. Empowering shouldn't really be possible out of the 3 preparation turns.Although now I wonder if it might be better to keep things simple and just make it a basic 12 turns free for all great arena (pretender based, I mean)>>573604579That was exactly my idea, but I just noticed that if we are going from battle to battle, there isn't room to change equipment.So let's adjust: after every duel there is one turn to return to the capital, so you can restock gems and adjust your equipment.
>>573604776>So let's adjust: after every duel there is one turn to return to the capital, so you can restock gems and adjust your equipment.That lets you simplify the map a good deal too, instead of a full bracket of provinces you can just have an amount of arenas equal to half the number of players and assign them turn-by-turn.Oh, and everyone should have a debug wizard patrolling at all times otherwise someone risks getting cucked by a random event sieging their cap with indies the turn before they're supposed to move to the arena.
>>573605089Agreed.The debug mages are also stealthy, so you can use them to check out the other battles, so you can see what you're up against the following battles.
>>573605089Actually, the debug wizard patrol might not be necessary now that I think about it, since people can just set their province defense super high since there's no use for gold.
>>573605718I feel like nations with shit PD could still get TROGGED if they are very unlucky
>>573605839True, true. And there's always the risk of Bogus and Friends.
Is there a way to force 0 PD in the arenas? It probably won't matter much but the previous victor getting an extra commander could screw with attack rear and whatnot. And there's nations with mage PD commanders, too.Setting them all to zero population might work actually. The debug wizard scouts should provide food via their nature path so nobody's tendie will starve.
>TURN 41 OF THE GREAT ARENADid anything happen? Abysia ate my scouts.Doesn't look like it, though. There's still a fat stack of Abyssians on the great arena,Point for Abyssia! Second place now with 6 points, threatening Muspelheim's victory
>>573606959My scout manages to fly away every time. Lucky guy.
>>573606959Ubar sent a merc to die in the arena, that was it
Arenaadmin. It seems there’s been an update to Debug. You can make as many copies of Artefacts as you want. So yeah. 1 arefact a turn, but they can be whatever you want
>>573610316Aw that's a shame, it removes the competition.Is there some mod that simply gives all the research and a few hundred starting gems? That's actually all I wanted but couldn't find any
Starting Warhammer2026 now, best of luck to everyone.
>>573611163There’s “Debug with Normal Research” see if that one keeps artefacts once per craft
what's the strongest a normal guy can get in this gameno just transforming into something else or whatever
>>573612771Discounting wishing for stats, decently high, but you're never going to be on the level of giants and elves in terms of melee blenderness.It also depends on your definition of normal guy. Chudes have pretty great statlines, as do Man's Wardens.
>>573612771Fully decked out in artifacts and empowered to 9 in every path I guess?At that point you are just looking for the chassis with the most items slots and most base stats
>luck into a ton of N gems as Uruk>considering spamming headdress of the bull and giving one to every mage for an eternally renewing buffalo armyThis is too silly and wasteful right?
>>573611163>>573612738It works. With Normal Research, you can only forge one artefact per turn and every artefact is unique. It only takes 6~ turns to reach Cons 9. So I think you do it like this: Turn 0, everyone sets their research goal (could force it to be JUST Construction, but maybe it would be more tactical to be allowed whatever), Force Host till turn 7 or 8, then people pick their second Research Goal, then Force Host to turn 20. At 20, you get your 3 turn prep period and then its duel time.
>>573613616You could just summon the buffalo cheaper using the national spell they have.The headdress is for protecting mages from assassins, or for cheesy raiding tactics with thugs
>>573613616It might do wonders for attracting enemy magic, I say go for it. Use some dwarf hammers to REALLY drive the cost down. People don't take Pyrene cave slug farming seriously but it is also good
>>573613753Cool, we'll be doing that. Thanks for checking that out
>>573613616Headdresses of the bull are at their funniest on assassins, in my experience.>t. lucked into a site once
>>573614123Does it summon Buffalo
>>573613898Pyrene cave slug farming would be good if the slugs didn't have horrifying upkeep for some reason
>>573614276The summoned ones have no upkeep, just spam their shepherd unit and summon dozens and then hundreds a turn over time jeje
>>573614537The freespawn cave cows from shephards have upkeep, the ones summoned by the spell do not
>>573614248Yup, and it'll sprint over and murder most commanders real quick on the tiny assassination maps. Cheaper than a water bottle, too.
Anyone interested in a blitz tonight or this weekend? I don't really care the format but it would be fun
>>573612209Disgusting.
>>573615929The mountain range is shaped like a horned demon's head so that is cool
>>573617756>>573615929yea for rp purposes this is a w
>>573614929Holy lel
>>573620039Anything big enough to resist getting trampled or has some semi decent bodyguards will shrug off the buffalo. There's nothing stopping you giving that assassin a water bottle too though, and maybe a lifelong protection or something to go all out.It's the pokemon assassin strategy
Nice one Ulm! I pulled fireshield thinking it wouldn't do anything and of course I run into howl, then lose because my Tyrants were tarpitted. Plus you had more forces to bring up than I realized due to scouting.It still took a hilariously long time for your mages to shatter my BC.
>>573620473Don't forget your skull talisman!
>>573615929This mod guy needs to learn how to use dreamatlas.
Can I get an extension for this turn like 16 more hours
>>573635190I think I would rather illwinter maps than deal with massive provinces and random missing connections where there should be connectionsI mean when it works it works well but that's not even 10% of the time
>>573638694Skill issue ngl
Odd how there arent vanilla options to make a full land/ocean map
Sex with mother of monsters
https://hinaserver.net/game/38HINAMIN SAVE MEE AIIEEEEEE>>573635804>>573635804>>573635804
I'm doing some networking stuff and the server will go down for a bit today. I don't think anyone uses it. I was going to decomission it but I may as well leave it up so people can download mods and maps off it at least.
>>573653053 I miss you. And your snakes.
>>573653153I'm going to put something new up in a few hours that I've been working on over the last week.
>>573651990
>>573651990Host-san please forgive me for extending it
Who is winning right now
I've got some jank-ass king of the hill thing I've been working on. Connect at koth.blitzserver.net:6100, submit a pretender. That pretender becomes your army. You can recruit some stuff, set up squads/orders and it'll matchmake you against other submitted armies. The battles will be shown in the message log and you can watch them.Its EA only. No magic, pretenders, cap onlys, forging. At the moment you can basically recruit recruit-anywhere national troops, commanders, and set up your squads and orders. There's also no budgeting so you can recruit infinite troops. Server runs a battle every 30 seconds, picking the least-recently attacking army and the closest ELO army to pair it with.The leaderboard is also at https://koth.blitzserver.net.Beta.blitzserver.net is still down. It'll probably be down for an hour or something. Database migrating over.
>>573615929How to even play like this? Jfc
>>573661404Was this inspired by the arena or did you guys create these based ideas independently
>>573662670Its something I've wanted to do for a long time but the amount of grunt work needed to be able to synthesize entire trns and 2hs for it always put me off. I for one welcome our new AI overlords.The arena game you guys have been playing sounds like its been a lot of fun though and definitely helped.
>>573661404>no budget, no magic, anyforts onlyClimbing the ladder with 9999 Gigante Hoplites soon
>>573664083Abysia started winning with a bunch of prot stacked troops so I retialiated by recruiting a million chariots.It took me a few battles to realise they're missing the trample flag :(.So yes meta at the moment is gigante hoplites I think.
>>573661404>lizard feet tastefully draped over the headerblitzmin....
>>573661404You're Alive!?!?!!?
>>573666653It's called ritual of rebirth, fucking newfriends.....
>>573651990>>573635804Sorry, I was doing this thing you need to do to avoid brain cancer called sleeping
Good morning, sirs.
>brother calls at 2 AM>ER >brain cooks worst scenarios imaginable>he is fine but cant go back to sleepNot like i needed rest or anything
>>573671838Alright doing my turns now
>>573674649
HOLY SHIT THE ARENA PARTIES ARE WILD
Gnight domg!
>Cast Gale Gate>Oh yeah so many gems my plan for grabbing the arena is moving fine> Use the same mage to summon a big monster> Astral corruption gets cast at the same time> Mage dies> FFS> Wait a bit, save more A gems> Cast Gale Gate a second time> Astral corruption gets cast again and bumps my global out of the stackWELL IN THIS CASE I'LL BE GOING POSTAL
>>573679383Ur is just slurping gems unimpeded, we should invade him
>>573682339What good are gems if your mages explode from using them?
So if i am reading this right globals take effect AFTER battles of the same turn? so if i want to win on turn 50 i need to cast the global on turn 49, correct?
>>573688232https://illwiki.com/dom5/dom6/turn-order-sequence
>>573690452might be one of my most visited pages on the wikiit's dumb how often you have to check that shit like 'wait, does this actually happen before or after?'i remember planning a big battle and casting wolven winter on the expected province because i wanted to GRIPwolven winter is a ritual, so it goes off before combat phases to naturally it lowers the temp 3 scales right?wrong, scales changes are like the dead last thing that happens, doesn't matter it's a ritualStill mad about that one.
/domg/, ganbare!
Whats a reasonable price to pay for a medium thug as a non thug nation? Like if you had to summon them as well as give them items because all your guys are bitch basic humans. Maybe a Bane Lord or something
>>573701551wdym by price probably most common waste of gems is Ulm trying to thug their smith priests.Honestly for me I don't thug anything that isn't size 6 at least just never seems worth it HP wise
>>573679383It never gets old
>>573701751There's plenty of thuggable size 5s, not the least of which is cavalry. Phaecia Storm Captains for example, Ur Gudus, all the mounted sacred elves
>>573702291I don't play any of those nations so I guess idk :/I wanna try thugging Pelagia's pearl kings in this EA game that is going to go really bad for me.
>>573701551Bane lord with a frost brand and vine shield is my baseline. Any thug gets compared against it.It generally depends on why you need it, though
>>573702378Transform them first. Let rng decide your thugging fate
>>573702605I do have luck and magic scales...
>>573701751>Ulm thugging their smith priestsWhich is hilarious, considering a black lord with a gss is already about the scariest thing out there if you can't soul slay it or hit it with some giga fatigue attack.
>TURN 42 OF THE ARENAUr goes straight at Abysia. Loses, but takes half of the Abyssian army down, including a painful amount of sacreds and mages.I had to check how, because the battle looks like a standard "burning ones march forward and delete everything while the air itself is on fire" affair. Turns out Ur's poison arrows strategy paid off wonderfully: the mages got hit by one arrow, then died to poison. Nice.C'tis keeps running what must be a plot to raise the stock price of chariot building companies. Unfortunately, the basic strategy of "throw more chariots at it and set them on the flank with attack rear", despite consistently managing to run around the army and make it to the ball of wizards in the rear, completely fails against Abyssia's massed short range evocations, which delete the chariots right before they can touch a single mage.Mictlan is trying a vampires + skelly spam and winds of death approach, but is running against some clash in the deep mechanics of the game. Will post a bit more in a momentAll in all, point for Abysia!
>>573703515As you can see, Wind of Death was casted, but it doesn't show up with the typical symbol showing active effects. Shrubbery is being affected, though, but no one of either faction, neither blood slaves nor the Abysians
>>573704093Wind of Death is a 1 time full battlefield decay nuke, not a persistent battle effect like Wailing Winds
>>573704093>>573704548Makes sense. It is a Wind of Death not some Winds that Wail
>>573703515I was really hoping that the casts of Flame Ward from my tendie would keep things alive long enough for the Soul Slaying Couatls to do their job.
>>573661404Oh damn that's janky as hell, I love it.Just threw in an army. Could be pretty fun if magic and awake pretenders + blesses work, plus a budget to limit research and troops
>TURN 43 OF THE ARENANo scout report but I think nothing happened. There's still about 30 Abyssians holding the arena, just as many as survived last turn.Point for Abyssia!
>>573712486Congratulations to Abyssia, who just tied with Muspelheim for the leading position!Only 7 points to go, plus the fat 5 points bonus of the final turn
>>573712892NYOH, MY LEAD
>>573713161You can just take it back, now that most of my stuff is out of the arena.
>>573714472>implying this isn't the moment I've been waiting for
>>573633589hey good fight that one was pretty coolthe attack was pretty obvious but i thought you might try to cut retreats instead of bringing the god with the army, literally at the last minute i swapped movement to teleport mine in and cast howl and summon shit just incase
I wish there were more goofy events
>>573724926You know, I'm kinda surprised there's no Glorantha mod.
>>573715040Arena's all yours buddy.
>>573726168God Learners would be whack.
Patala I am sorry that you had to witness my fuckup of epic proportions
Fuck Rus daughters of the sun
MARGINALIZED Jotunheim anon here, i will do my turn in a few hours, stuck in a family reunion
>>573731898That was an ok gembait, too bad I didn’t really bring that much gems.
>>573730789Would they work like lunar coders?
>>573726168i'd kill for that, I need that Holy Country gameplay
>>573732893HOW DARE YOU
>>573740748THEY PROBABLY ARE INTO IT!
>>573740943
>>573741559>>573740943Based and Rusian Skinshifter in the woods pilled
>>573741559Holy-
>Try out Plavendel Rebirth>Cool art, good writing, fun faction aesthetics>Having fun spreading Lovecraft disease everywhere>"Man I'm sure getting a lot of undead. This is useful">"Oh man. This...is a lot of undead. I'm struggling to even ferry them all to the frontlines">"The army screens are now lagging too much for me to be able to double click and select by type"Holy shit this is ridiculous. I'm a shit player and going up against 30 impossible difficulty AIs and they can't touch me. I'm just vomiting out so much undead every turn everywhere for free that there isn't even a game to play anymore. I think I'm going to see if I can try to look at the mod's code and cut these freespawn down to like a 4th.
Man why do all water factions look ugly as shit, where are the hot mermaids, krakens, sea leviathans, hot atlantean women?
>>573746389?
What do you do when there's a blood tranny spamming a million summons to defend their castle
>>573746512Siege harder
>>573746512Summoning what? Most summon chaff has 0.1 siege defence.
>>573726168I would main the Ducks in a heartbeat
>>573746512Summon some cave grubs>>573746785I think serpent fiends are actually pretty good defense for the price, though they're not cheap in mage turns. They're not mindless, undisciplined, or ethereal, so they don't have any of the things that give a penalty, and they're flying.
>>573746785I dont know nigga i havent broken it down duh. He probably has the enchanted wall thing that doubles siege defense as well
>>573745223It seems that the code for the mod has 4 identical blocks for undead freespawn. I don't know if this is intentional.
>>573746389someone capricorn this bitch ass landlubber
AWROOOOOO
>>573758929Based
>>573746389merrow are cute and try their best
KOTH updated.Mages now get paths, all research unlocked, you get a huge pile of gems to use.Battle page on the web UI names units instead of listing them by monster id though I think I might be reading the battle report in the game files wrong anyway, but at least you can see whats in the army nowYou get your start sites for cap only recruitment.
>>573768286merrow are passed around by morvarchs and used to catch "lance charges"
is there a guide for magic
>>573780684not really but what do you need help with most people will give advice here that's why we post
>>573780684Recruit as many mages as you can to research faster.Bring as many mages as you can to important battles and have them buff and/or smite the enemy with magic.Look at what spells are available to your nation and which ones you want to counter your opponent. If you're missing paths to cast them either forge boosters, summon other casters, design your pretender around it or as a last and inefficient solution empower.Gems are your lifeline, don't waste them, but commit in spending enough of them during large battles to get the edge.Check fatigue cost of combat spells for efficient scripting. Mages with more paths than required will fatigue less (cost will be 50% for 1 level more, 25% for two level more, etc.), or they can gobble up spare gems for the same effect.Try to get an idea of battlefield size to have your offensive caster at the right distance from the frontline.Put your buff casters in the middle of the troops you want to be buffed.Try shit out, and when you loose a battle review what spells the enemy cast and how much it weighted on your defeat, how you could have countered it, or how efficient it could have been if you did the same.The fastest way to learn magic is to play MP.
I saw an advance screening of the Odyssey and while it was rather disappointingly bland, the Laestrygonian scene does do a good job and showing how scary it'd be fight even size 4 dudes
>>573782978Empowering from lvl1 to lvl2 is actually on par with some boosters, so I won't call it a last solution.
>>573783602This guy spent money to watch wokeslop
>>573784181Yes, you're right, it's a fair case.
Jesus christ mekone okay I'll add budgeting, I get the message.
>>573790014Surely I will win for my scripting is superior.
>>573790109>even in king of the hill therodos is the worst nation in the game
>>573790368Therodos should have been compensated by getting glamor magic
>>573790530Glamour is gay
>>573791334At least they could buff their ghosts with it
Any open games?
>>573745223Hover over one of them and press "a" to select them all. Not by type, but at least you can move them.Shift and ctrl clicking also works, with the usual results
Erotic
>Try using Divinity and Dominions enhanced together just like adversited>Enhanced overwrites Divinity uber pretendersI am retarded, i enabled Divinity_DE compatibility mod first and then DE, am i doing something wrong?
>>573794110No, Divinitus hasn’t been updated in a bit, neither has the DE compatibility mod. So several pretenders are DE instead of Divinitus. It still partially works, because you need both mods for the Tir na nOg/Eriu exclusive pretender Dan, the Queen and Mother of the Tuatha de Dan, which lets you recruit Sidhe in all Forts.DE Divinitus is boring in my opinion, not only are several Pretenders missing or nerfed because of compatibility issues, but the options exclusive to the combined version are overpowered
>>573796002Ah i assumed both were compatible, didnt knew they had to be played separate now, that explains thingsThank you for informing me anon
>>573783602>I saw an advance screening of the OdysseyGAY ALERT
>>573783602You needed to watch that slop to realize it was shit?
>>573783602>anne hathaway as penelope>why are they casting such a young actress for a milf role?>anne hathaway is 43 nowholyfuckholyfuck
I've played so much dominions that now when I'm watching movies with magic in them I start trying to figure out what dominions magic paths the characters might have based on the spells they use.Imhotep from the Mummy is a D6 S2 E3 N3 mage
>>573801201Nerdy but cute
>>573801201>S2damn, brendan fraser could've just magic dueled him
>>573804350He can't be S3 because he never teleports. He needs at least S1 E3 because he casts gifts from heaven, but I just vibed that he'd be at least S2.D6 is self explanatory but he has N3 because he uses creeping doom pretty often.Luckily for Imhotep Fraser doesn't have S magic, though he does have innate luck
what do I do with stationary gods like blood fountain if they can't move
Bone Grinding....is shit.
>>573804939Not much other than crafting and ritual casting. You need to give them astral 3 so they can teleport. Or give them Glamor 3 and Astral 1 so they can at least use project self.If it's a stationary god with the "no teleport tag" then they can not move for any reason though. Project self is the best you could do
>>573804939Teleporting a monolith right onto someone's capital is a traditional play
>>573805949Oh wow a spooky rock just showed up in my home, what its gonna do? stand menacingly?
This game sucks, I put it on easy and I still die. Also how do I bring my god back to life?
>First time player>Picks the bats or r'yleh (i sure did)>complains
>>573807865Click on your priests on the map screen and order them to "Call God" You need about 50 points of call god to get your god back. A priest level 1 gets one point from call god, a priest level 2 gets 2 points etc.Also once you figure out the game you can crush easy ai effortlessly. The ai is easy to abuse once you understand it
>>573807865A lot of priests set to call god. IIRC you need 50 points and each priest set to call god contributes points equal to their priest level every turn. Once you hit 50 your God will respawn in your cap with a point less in one magic path, usually nature. Also you lose one dominion strength but it's nothing temples can't fix
>>573808706>with a point less in one magic pathThis isn't guaranteed as far as I know, just a chance. There's also a chance pretenders with death magic can gain a point in death i think
>>573784907Nah it was freeAmusingly every women is shown to be borderline hysterical so I give props to Nolan for free
>>573808538I sure did pick the bats
>>573808886If they have Death 10 can it go up to 11?
>>573809018No except via boosters
batbros
>>573810198Omw
>>573810198>sending your expander against a shade provinceas much as it sucks, you have to ignore those until later when you can banish them or use magic (weapons)pray it's not in your cap circle
>>573810724this was the second time they wiped me out but I have level 3 blood magic and lots of blood sacrifices I thought my god could just wipe them all out but he got crunched
>>573811346Any independent that isn't basically a basic human is something you need to be afraid of, especially when sending your tendy into them early game. You need to learn what those units are weak against specifically. Even some of the normal ass human units are scary, like heavy cavalry and barbariansShades are really scary unless you have multiple priests or magic weapons.
MA Atlantis has the best looking water units and i wont accept other opinions
>>573810198>one commanderAaw yiss, assassin time.
>>573811958I agree. The coral armor is dope in orange.I'm so glad they are finally allowed to recruit reef warriors on coastal land as god intended.Bit of a shame that water/astral is such a boring path combo
>>573810724Or you can just get a bunch of pasty mongoloids or cavemen to throw rocks at them.
>>573811819thank you sensei
Water factions look cool but so complicated
>>573814256No it's the exact opposite you dummyThey're safe but have an incredibly gimped roster in most cases for much of the game
>>573814256>Get gimped by two nothingburger globals
>>573815471>TURN 44 OF THE ARENAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AC41dglnMVanheim managed to power through. I'm not sure why Caelum's birds didn't escape after all the mammoths routed and instead patiently waited for the elves to get within stabbing range, but it is how it is.Point for Vanheim!
>>573817292I love a good thundering, though
Merrows milk his balls
>>573817494This is the glorious image of my demise. I lost all my big elemental royalty casters, kitted and full of gems, I'm now broke and running on a dozen mammoths and chaff. I'm not going AI because I want to take part in the final fray but for all things considered that's GG for me.Maybe I'll do a little write up on my experience in the Arena with Caelum if some of you folks are interested.
>>573811819Massed archers are also a decent budget option versus shades, enough volume of fire will get through ethereal and chew up their 0 prot asses.
Spooky
>>573820090Gick fel'd, nagot.
>>573820090If only you spoke Swedish, then you'd be able to avoid this.
>Cast wrath of the sea>fast foward 20 turns>province is still therewhy it is not water?
>>573823568Why do you think it turns a province into water?
>>573823843i assumed enough water would do that eventually, same with tidal wave, i always saw this meme of "JUST TURTLE AND SINK THE ENTIRE MAP LOL" and figured it this was what they meant with it
>>573824149It does not. only Lost Land turns land into water.
>>573824256For fuck sake
Yeah i think i am just too much of a pussy to play this game, every screenshot i post here is just me with 40+ researchers in base slowly waiting for the AI to end my misery and killing me due to lack of dominionThe only games i do well is when i have units with inflated stats like muspel
>>573825205Watch a youtube video and see how people play, that should help.
>>573825205>The only games i do well is when i have units with inflated stats like muspelMost veterans in this thread need S-tier nations to win too, so you're fine on that benchmark.That being said, you'll get better much faster if you practice measured aggression and learn how much abuse your troops can take (and how much mages can multiply their power later on). Try running SP games where you instead recklessly attack into fights you think you might win, adjust your perceptions of relative strength based on the result, and support that with book learning of the stats and DRN tables to understand why the winning units overpower the others.
>>573825205AI is like a completely different game to MP. I would never touch SP dominions seriously outside of testing builds. The AI cheats even on easy and will never replicate what a human has available to them.
>>573825205What are you struggling with, anon?Magic can be a bit hard to get the hang of, often having your mages buff key troops is more efficient at killing the enemy than telling them to cast fireball x5 or whatever.One of the key elements that lets human size nations fight on the same level as giants is that you can hit more of them at once with AoE buffs.
>>573746927same
>>573825205Are you a pussy or do you just not know what your mages are capable of doing?Buff strats are the easiest to figure out how many mages you should bring to a fight, since the buff spells have an aoe you can use to estimat how many troops thry can buff in the first two rounds of a battle before they charge forth.Take gift of giant strength with 20 aoe. If you can cast it round 1 you know your mage can buff approx 40 squares worth of troops on hold and attack before they start moving. Thats 120 size 3 units that are buffed by 1 mage.
>>573818937I will gleefully devour any and all writeups, please do and you'll get at least a (You)
How do these guys actually work?They land a hit then retreat? They take a single HP of damage, and then retreat? Or do they just desert after the fight?
>>573830706They disappear after the fight, if they dealt damage or took damage.You use them as a cost effective solution/deterrent against enemy elites. Gladiators are extremely strong for their price, but you can't snowball just making them obviously since they only last 1 fight that they do anything in.
Do you just burn out after enough turns? Even on the smallest map against the AI I'm feeling like I can't be arsed to finish the game and I don't want to enter an MP game if I'm not going to give it my all.
>>573830706They do a single action, do some damage then leave.. if they can
>>573830958I am currently on 3 MP games and its going like this>Arena is short, has been fun not needing to think>being a piece of shit as toxandria, not trying to win>being a piece of shit with my big doggo, not trying to win>waiting for pretender arena to get my shit kicked in because what i cooked up is probably not gonna work
>>573830958It's normal to feel like that against the ai. The ai is dumb and never forces you to be creative.When playing singleplayer you should lower the throne count and just fight the enemy till you want to wrap it up easily. If you survived to endgame in mp the turn timers usually get increased as the turns become longer, helping to mitigate burnout. Just dont join too many mp games at once
>>573831005They follow normal routing rules as any other unit in battle. They disappear after the battle if they did something
>>573830958Just play R'lyeh
>>573830958Late game fatigue fucking sucks, I get it too often
>>573830958I don't even start singleplayer games that I can't complete in 1-2 sittings anymore. So like 6 max. Multiplayer is a better experience overall and planning/strategy is actually rewarding.
>>573831210>>573831320>>573831702>>573831782Okay glad to hear I'm not just getting filtered, I probably WILL get my shit pushed hard in MP but I'm at least more interested in trying it now. Because yeah the AI is just dumb and there isn't much satisfaction of wading through the whole game beyond just seeing if a certain strategy will work.
>>573832651Game's just too slow and micro intensive for singleplayer. It burns you out.MP matches are perfect. Early game turns are frustratingly brief, but soon they take a sweet 10-15 minutes and you can actually spend a lot more time thinking and planning. It feels a lot more satisfying. The AI also neither surprises you with good strategies, nor is it able to counter proper things you throw at it.I find three MP games is the sweet spot. One in early game, one in mid game, one in late game. Don't join too many games at once, it can be quite a time drain when you've got multiple big battles to plan.
>>573832651Unless you are lucky you likely wont have to deal with turn fatigue in multiplayer for quite sometime.It can hit pretty hard in the very lategame, particularly on nations with heavy micro but its still far more interesting than playing against the ai
>create a powerful giant wizard god>some wild animals flank and attack my powerful giant wizard god>diesI do not understand, how can this be?
>>573833756Harassment defense penalties mean getting outnumbered is very, very bad unless you've got protection so high nothing can hurt you.
>hear the Dom4 soundtrack>instantly hit with nostalgiaDid anyone ever manage to make Dom6 use other tracks dumped in the same folder? Dom4 had the best soundtrack.
>>573833756If you want your powerful wizard god to stand toe to toe against hordes of enemy units, you need to craft it items using construction research and or script it to cast buffs on itself mostly with conjuration and enchantment research.No matter how strong you make a single unit though, later in the game somebody will find a way to counter it with mages
>>573836114I meant alteration not conjuration, but conj does have a couple of good buffs like summon earthpower
>>573835405I fucking miss it, manhttps://youtu.be/-6d-JE1mfpo?si=OadIU_51xjjFUady
>>573833756Don't be retarded
>>573837087>played 4 so much I probably spent literally hundreds of hours listening to this single track>those days are never coming back
>>573837685I can't even remember how the 5 OST sounded but I can still hum along to every track from 4.https://youtu.be/UnmW88w3WG0?si=dKiw_dRDzrwHl-DO
One of the coolest glow-up in Divinitus, maybe top 10 most fun Pretender Options.
>>573838101Yeah 5 and 6 have been a step down in terms of music. I still enjoy them as background music while playing but it's just not the same. I hope they realize this for the next game (even if it's not a Dominions), surely they have more money now than they did at the time of 3/4.
>>573838714>DivinitusBeen away for ages (literal years), anyone intending to host a game with this?
>>573839417We just started one. Sorry.
>>573838714Is divinitus the updated name for divine spark or is it a new mod entirely?
>>573839810It is yes. The remake/continuation of Divine Spark. You can still play DS, but it’s quite out of date
>>573839617Guess I'll bide my time.
>>573835405>>573837087>>573837685>>573838101>>573839235It always felt to me like Dom3/4 -> 5 -> 6 was like EA -> MA -> LA. The music in 4 felt more upbeat, like an early bronze age feast/celebration, while 6 feels more melancholic (despite the bagpipe going apeshit).
>>573824149Has anyone ever actually interacted with the new terraforming stuff in dom6?
>>573844775Yes, growth scales spawned forests a lot of times in my games.
>>573844775Yes, its really important for nations like Pan, Asphodel, and Zematia. Having the ability to make forests really changes how you play those nations.
>game doesn't have province development featurekek what a simple little game.
>>573849967domsissies...the 4Xchads are laughing at us...
>>573850620I dont know, coloring maps seem awfully boring
>>573850620
>>573849967EU4 went completely down hill around the time they added that shit
>>573852047EU5 is what everybody plays now.
eat shit goy golem
Bugmaxxing factions?
>>573841005I liked the more upbeat festival music
>>573850620Considering the fact this is a game about apocalyptic warfare where you can casually cause a third of the world's population to outright die from a single spell, I think building sewers for your pops is the least of your concerns
>>573792573Been doing that, BUT! I just found you can alt click instead of double clicking to completely bypass this issue. Thanks though
>cataclysm turn 100ay caramba
I think i will move to elysium
>>573862569You and what army
>>573862920Where i am going i wont need an army
I'm warning you all now that any future post ending below 50 will transport you to Elysium. Not with powers or anything. Just as you are now. So you will probably become a cocksleeve for PD or eaten by ants.
>>573863198God i wish
>>573863198
>>573863198>antsGiant ants?Gi-ants?
The worst part about dominions is when you dont die before turn 50 and the turns take too longWe should have a cataclysm by turn 50 game
>>573878415If you don't get to read whole chapters in the time it takes ai's to take their turns you're playing the game wrong.
>>573849967>he doesn’t know
>>573830958Depends. I don’t join multiplayer if I don’t feel like playing, pretty simple
>>573831484I know man
>>573857110rather not.>>573881804good midday
anyone knows if Storm cancels Mist?Or can both be cast and be up in the same battle?
>>573886765I assume it works like darkness overriding twilight, or maybe it's based on who casts which later or earliertest it with the debug mod
>>573829685All right, let's go.I chose Caelum for a simple reason : I wanted sacred archer for a meme cold cloud bless with the idea that it would be easy to grab points in the early/mid game. The fact that most troops have magic weapons was also a huge boon with Ubar around, and to maximize bless points and site searching I went for a basic rainbow dormant with huge production scales to spew out as many troops as I could, taking misfortune and drain for the first time as I thought it wouldn't have too much impact with the limited number of provinces and the easy research (I think I was right but I'll wait to see the graphs).The plan was to use the bird guys mobility to snipe commanders while raining magical arrows on the early enemy rooster when the counters are not online. Bless was otherwise tailored at countering Ubar which I thought would be the biggest menace early on. I actually did not plan for much more as I created my pretender in a hurry and I thought I wouldn't be able to play late turns at ease due to upcoming real life commitments.
>>573888428What went well :- Pretender did what he was supposed to and I had a decent gem income I think, with crosspaths that got moderately useful, even if level 3 magic is not enough to move into late game magic without jumping through that many hoops.- Mammoths are the real MVP. I could have won bigger by fielding more of them early on, compared to more mundane troops that never were able to hold against all those giants and sacred and anything stronger than a basic human.- Scales worked as expected. Cash was flowing for most of the game, well enough to counterbalance misfortune.- I managed to expand and fort+lab+temple all five provinces within the first year while doing several attempts at grabbing the arena. It didn't work in the end but I'm satisfied with my development. Caelum fliers + mammoths made battles against AI a trivial matter.- The Blizzard warriors archers and their fatigue shots aimed at large enemy monsters worked well. By far the best troop alongside our woolly pachyderm friends.- Casting Raven feast on the Arena got me over 10 death gems per turn.- I'm happy to have been able to cast level 9 evoc wipes at least once. Got wasted on regen elves but hey, you don't get to do it every game.
>>573888485What went welln't :- Caelum line troops suck in main stack battle. I sent hundreds over hundreds of iceclads and raptors and even those sacred without wings and I'm not sure they killed more than 15 guys all combined. They would have been terrific for guerilla warfare and being a major pain to any opponent in a regular game but no dice here.- Same for thugs : there are no chassis with above average stats or durability so against the large armies roaming the arena it was hopeless.- Caelum national summons are expensive and requires either D or S income, of which Caelum has none and my discovered magic sites didn't help. The limited gem income meant they stayed unaffordable. I really underestimated how little gems I would get overall, as my plan included moving to summons and kitted SC by mid game but there were never going to be enough magic dough available to make viable anytime.- Bless was spread too thin to benefit both melee and archers and didn't do much for either, not that it was a good plan to start with. I should have done the obvious and get in with a titan with combat build and shield it with mammoth and blizzard warriors, who were much more efficient than the sacred Kavi archers anyway.- Got fucked hard by Astral Corruption. In the end it is what put me out of the race altogether, so well played Mictlan.Still got 4 points so I'm not unhappy for a first time playing Caelum in a new format, furthermore considering it is only my sixth MP game. Plus main stack battles have always been my weakness so it made for good training. See you all in the arena turn 50.
Someone make a game
