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Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

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I hope this thread isn't as gay as the last one.
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I AM STROKING MY PENIS TO THIS THREAD
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>>573383104
It will not (have hope)
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>>573382983
Hooman!
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>573382983
Well clearly I have to post in the mini dancing pluey thread
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>>573383093
haha i would never be the thread slut haha... unless...?
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>>573383104
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>>573383104
I want him so much
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chapter 3-4 was selfinserters and terfs
chapter 5 is gays and trans

good change
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>>573383104
Ralsie's talk sprites are great and you don't like the character if you think they are ugly.
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>fact
undertale and deltarune have very underwhelming stories
>fact
both protags fucking suck
>fact
the soundtrack is carrying the entire franchise on its back
>fact
every mystery creates three new mysteries instead of answering the old one
>fact
the community will invent lore faster than the game releases chapters
>fact
there are more theories than confirmed plot points
>fact
someone will explain why this was actually intentional game design
>fact
the fandom remembers unused dialogue better than the actual story
>fact
any toby fan is a fucking underaged retard or an adult with mental problems
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>>573383253
Why does Flowery look like that lmao
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How can I make good posts steering the thread toward on-topic posting?
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>>573382983
GATO SEXO
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>>573383209
Sex with this stupid mutt
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>>573383381
Hey man I'm just posting my gyot
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In terms of years of life taken Catti's mom, specifically Catti's mom's high calorie cooking, is possibly the most dangerous entity in hometown.
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>>573383264
Please do not speak like that about my useless infertile clit
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post funnies
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>>573383209
Testosterone Enlarged clits make the best dicks
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>>573383381
Dumb doe posting usually works.
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Kris aged up (20 years old)
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kris and susie testing how well healing magic works in the dark world by torturing ralsei then giving him healing items
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Everytime there is a double thread I headcanon it as a Roaring so this thread's weather forecast is tons of shitposting and ironing from Titans until the Dark Fountain is closed
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>>573383483
stunning
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It feels so fucking weird to browse these threads as a trans guy
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>>573383458
Rimjob
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>>573383483
what kind of personal creation is this
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>kris is the vessel
>found near the bunker and adopted by the dreemurr family
>weird violent creep due to being soulless, hence childhood trauma
>monochrome at first, but filled in with color through love, like the seven flying aces
>this was always the plan so that gaster can have a perfectly integrated spy he can insert the player soul into at any time
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>>573383351
why?
>>573383351
why?
>>573383351
true but deltarune is cool gameplay-wise too
>>573383351
true
>>573383351
well, obviously duh, what do you think theorycrafting is?
>>573383351
again, what do you think theorycrafting is?
>>573383351
because games with mysteries are supposed to let you have your guesses before the reveals?
>>573383351
true desu
>>573383351
or they're simply autistic
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>>573383607
Welcome to the real man country experience I guess.
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>>573383462
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>>573383607
if you are who i think you are
i miss you
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>>573383381
Here are some suggestions:
>Discuss gameplay elements
>Discuss the lore
>Discuss the characters
>Talk about the music
>Post fanart
>Post fave
>>573383483
Where is the creation...?
Am I supposed to look at something in this post? Perhaps even listen to something?
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>>573383607
Hiding under spoilers is femalebrained don't do that
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>>573383523
Can someone post the fanart where Kris and Susie are dressed like streetwalkers?
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>>573383746
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look into my special eyes
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I look like this. Who want me?
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>>573383746
How can one gyot be so cyot
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>>573383523
Reminder that the Kris gender fake discourse is Toby's fault. If they were more visually androgynous, we would be having these asinine arguments. Have the stupid enby slut wear a goddamn skirt, for fucks sake.
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Kris's nonbinary pussy and nonbinary womb and nonbinary ovaries and nonbinary periods
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>>573383748
trans anon is your ex?
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>>573383209
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>>573383607
THIS IS THE LIFE YOU CHOSE
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>>573383885
You would get horny over anything just as long as it had the word nonbinary slapped first, wouldn't you?
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>>573383523
How much do they charge for a fun time?
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>>573383790
It is an entirely subjective experience, you think of the engorged testy clits but as a dick, and you ponder about it
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https://files.catbox.moe/ykbok7.mov
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>>573383885
And Nonbinary Asriel and Nonbinary Nice Goats
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>>573383895
highly improbable this is who i think it is
call me a schizo but i'd like to believe
if anything, screaming into the void makes me feel better about it
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Which Deltarune character would be a size queen?
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Now that the dust has settled, SHE is the best secret boss, right?
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>>573383885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8RZAwti1Bg
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>>573384081
Queen
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>>573384046
do i dare click this catbox
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>>573384037
I would, Toby ruined my sex life
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SO HE STANDS
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>>573384126
it's the same thing just with audio, had to remove it for 4chan
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>>573384081
ralsei indulged and set his anal circumference stat to maximum so he's easily disappointed

noelle but it's less about the size and more about the threat of grievous bodily injury
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>>573384037
It makes it a little more mentally ill and therefore bonerful
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>>573384082
yes
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>>573384082
Maddie ended up being the best secret boss TWICE.
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>>573383883
They wear skirts multiple times, play the game
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>>573383885
Kris's nonbinary petplay and aura moments
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>>573384082
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>>573384082
only if you think hard fights are fun
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>>573383607
Im sorry that I can't be normal anon you don't deserve this bullshit from me or the other anons here T. A trans woman
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>>573383639
Why does Kris die without the SOUL if he always was soulless?
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>>573384146
I don't think Toby is to blame for your case
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>>573383883
kris wears skirts twice in this chapter, larpo
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>>573384269
In Undertale her competition is Glyde and So Sorry so that's not exactly a high bar to clear
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>>573384270
The fucking two second Ace Attorney reference doesn't count. I mean as part of their regular outfits.
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>>573383748
>>573384074
I am so sorry you fumbled, best wishes...
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STRAIGHTENING PETALS OUT WITHOUT A PLAN
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>>573383607
I wish I were a woman so bad
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Kris should wear skirts, but when they run around the skirt should hike-up and flash their panties. And it's randomly determined whether Kris has a bulge in their shiropan every time it's shown.
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I'm gonna play Genshin until this thread becomes better
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>>573383607
what do you think of trans guy noelle
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It took like two weeks for the threads to get this shitty
Chapter 3+4 took longer
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>>573384082
Idk about BEST but she's really great and I'm glad toby ended the arc with unequivocal evidence that the shadow crystal quest has all tied back to kris's journey and the best trans character in the series to date
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>>573384349
maybe it laid dormant in them?
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>>573384082
She's the most fun fight but unfortunately Ralsei making a joke of the entire concept of superbosses is insane aura loss
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i am gay
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>>573384525
same but with nude mods and I will not actually leaving
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fave is surprised how good their first attempt at making steak went
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>>573384525
>genshin
How do you play an r34 category anon?
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>>573384293
why is the pet play thing like consistent.
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>>573384037
Kris who has Nonbinary balls attached to nonbinary cock attached to a nonbinary hip on a nonbinary body that has nonbinary boobs
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>>573384671
Why are people genuinely upset about this. The joke made me breathe out of my nose slightly I can’t believe people are still talking about it
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There are beautiful trans people in this thread RIGHT NOW
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>>573384569
Mods used to ban people for samefagging and other retarded behavior but anything goes nowadays, so the shitposters feel right at home
>7 replies to a narcissistic off topic troon post
Yeah sure. Sure
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>official composer confirms that the glowing voice is Gaster
Gaster deniers, your response?
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>>573384419
thanks anon
everything reminds me of him
every once in a while he suddenly appears in my dreams, and the cycle begins again
this is so lame and gay but i just wish i wasn't such a prick back then, i feel he was the only one who really understood me sometimes
i live in a prison of my own making
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wtf why did noelle say this??
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>>573384732
the new event has lots of fishing
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>>573384797
I wish lol
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>>573384473
you can! become transgender and kill yourself, because reincarnation to reroll is the only way.
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>>573384525
>>573384720
>playing gachashit
>ever
Have SOME self-respect, yeesh.
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I do not understand why Asgore not defining what happened to Dess is presented as a failing of the writing. The scene in Undertale gets compared to it, but that's the end segment of a far shorter game where Asgore is speaking to a stranger, and Deltarune's scene is Asgore speaking to his own child who was traumatized by the incident, hence the vague wording. The actual issue not enough people are bringing up is that Asgore reached the conclusion of the true nature of his self-hate too fast. He simply appears and goes "I was wrong and misguided no one hates me and I should stop reaching out to Toriel I realize this now after Flowery bothered me Sorry Kris!" all in one breath. My immersion in the scene was shaken.
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>>573384757
Because Kris is constantly acting like a dog
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>>573384552
Yeah I like Noel
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http://poal.me/jztgrq
http://poal.me/jztgrq
http://poal.me/jztgrq
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>>573384797
are you among us
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>>573384927
Your dick is smaller than mine. Don't speak unless I give you permission.
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baaa
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>>573384797
How many funnies will it take to have one kiss me?
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>>573384757
because its an important part of kris' backstory with dess
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>>573384927
Reincarnation doesn't exist
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>>573384942
Asgore was cringing and suffering the whole first part of the Chapter and then saw his kid get the shit kicked out of them. I don’t think it was rushed at all
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What is it about Azzy that makes him such a strong magnet of shit
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>>573384856
I share your pain but I feel it's worse because I'm the one who got abused and yet I still miss my ex oh well may we both be at peace soon
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>>573384569
Idk if we got the big reunion from everyone who left during the wait
Threads were too large and too fast for me to check everyday
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>>573383885
this is why the nonbinary shit is retarded you’re just thinking of a woman. this is a woman you are describing
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>>573384942
>He simply appears and goes "I was wrong and misguided no one hates me and I should stop reaching out to Toriel I realize this now after Flowery bothered me Sorry Kris!" all in one breath.
this is the consequence of not letting asgore interact with the shit squad more often
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>>573385124
what are you trying to say here?? ESL??
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Asgore watching as I dick down the simulacrum of his son
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>>573384942
Audiences in general are sick of mystery boxes. Just fucking tell us what fucking happened and get to the damn point. I don;t care who the Knight is, I don't care what horrible crime Asgore committed, I don't care what's in the bunker. Just get on with it already, fuck.
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>>573384778
15 year olds get upset when they realize Toby is aware of the concepts they obsess over and finds them kinda funny like a normal gamer would. I legitimately can't conceptualize getting mad at a boss music joke personally but there's probably some guy that doesn't play anything else that's furious over it
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>>573384942
>not defining what happened to Dess is presented as a failing of the writing
It's not, theoryfags just have autism and hate anything that is unclear and not spelled out for them plainly
>the end segment of a far shorter game where Asgore is speaking to a stranger
Exactly. For all the fags who screech "DELTARUNE IS A DIFFERENT GAME" they fail to understand the most important contextual difference the two: in Undertale we control a vessel with no history in the underground, but Kris has a whole life and history in hometown that we are not privy to.
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>>573384809
>troon game has troon fanbase
shocking
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>>573384569
because 3 and 4 were better
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>>573385218
this is THE mystery box game
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gasters a man shattering dreams to further his own
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>>573385000
I don’t buy him being 7 inches. Kraut is the opposite of big dick energy and very insecure about himself.
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>>573385201
kris..
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>>573385000
holster your weapon, sonnyboy unless you plan on using it.

and "we" don't want no trouble 'ere.
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>>573385201
somehow does not narrow it down
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>>573385079
This explains the Toriel/Flowery stuff and not the guilt over Dess stuff. The conclusion he reached there in the cutscene featuring the Dreemurr souls needed more buildup earlier in the chapter. That's actually bad writing, to have a character list their realizations without any buildup beforehand.
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>>573385283
Oh, well that explains why it's such a shit game then. Mystery fucking solved!
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>>573384849
camellia is about as in-the-know as we are. he and toby are buds but as far as i know he's so much on the team as he is an independent collaborator.
kind of like lena raine.
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>>573384569
complete chapter 4 surpremacy
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>>573384778
People often get upset when the thing they take seriously is treated as a joke
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>>573385218
>Audiences in general
You, yourself, and your mother
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>>573384778
Ruined the mood and the hope of a serious boss
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>>573385180
You forget the most important part
A mentally ill woman :)
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>>573384552
Trans guy Noelle is still Noelle. It’s just her but with more mental illness and delusion
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>>573385180
>filtered
back to /v/ with the other conformists buddy
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>>573384809
>chuddy pretending he's not the one derailing constantly
>chuddy thinks this is his thread/community
You arent wanted anymore here than you are by your parents, go back to your eslums
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>>573385181
I wonder how they'd handle one another post ch5 weird route
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chapter 5 wouldve been well received if asgore actually exposition dumped what happened that day, even if everything else was exactly the same
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>>573385305
Taking the idea of "big dick energy" seriously is worse than believing in astrology. I'm very insecure and shy and my cock is about 20cm. How big your penis is makes basically no difference in your everyday life, although I would probably be insecure about it if it were small.

>>573385337
Don't worry, I'm just warming it up for you.
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>>573384778
it kind of felt like a marvel quip, like when tony stark calls a bad guy squidward
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>>573385439
Lost, the Star Wars sequel trilogy, etc. Let's not bullshit here, pal.
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>>573385305
anon, rest assured that you will never really find out wether that is true or how true i am.

i thank allah that our paths shall never cross and such opportunities shall never open to you.
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>>573385372
Him seeing Kris suffer is what sold it. He said it himself. Seeing Kris hurt, being unable to protect them, hammered home to him how pointless his whole obsession was. He had a moment of profound clarity and saw what truly mattered
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>>573385458
>misgendering
cringe larper and I am not interested in you anymore
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>>573384757
Kris's only certain character traits are their puppyplay fetish and their eating disorder, everything else is up in the air
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>>573385580
I don’t know what you’re talking about, genuinely. Why are you talking about Squidward and superheroes
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You held the crystal up to your eye.

For some strange reason, for a brief moment, it looked like...

Everyone else disappeared...

... and you saw Noelle smiling at you, with arms full of flowers.
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>>573385634
>kraut is considering the opportunities of gay sex and has such opportunities in his mind palace
curious!!
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>>573385458
if i were dating someone and found out they talked about me like this id kill myself
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>>573385720
They like getting choked too but you could file that under puppyplay for brevity sake
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>>573384757
When Kris was a kid they would hump Dess's leg like a dog and all of the adults in room just laughed at it instead of correcting the behavior, so they are constantly chasing the high of humping an older girl's leg in public.
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I remember that the first real relationship I had when I first started transitioning was this homeless trans guy I met at a protest who was obviously stealthing and I made such a fool of myself that I still yell at myself in the mirror six years later, it was strange because he more or less looked like pic related and even when we hangout in our tent together and I was trying to hide my frontal bone structure above my eye wirh my bangs he'd lean in and raise his bangs trying to tell me something so obvious at the time that I don't know why I convinced myself he wasn't Trans, Steve I hope your ok to this day and no longer on the streets and ftm bro in this thread im sorry for being weird about you I should of had more self restraint and not talk aboutyour body in that way
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Don't summon demons if you don't want me making your friends strong Kris.

Be thank I'm not trying to take their souls (yet)
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>>573385551
>https://youtu.be/G6MwHCBky-Q?t=31
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>>573385635
But his conclusion wasn't that his investigations were pointless, he even now wanted to rope Kris into it by saying "let us go tell the Mayor what happened later". His conclusion was that no one in the family truly hated him and blamed him for Des like he was assuming. If the buildup to that was meant to be Kris and the gang defending him, then sure I guess, it still did not feel satisfying to me from a writing pace standpoint.
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>>573385580
>story has any humor whatsoever
>"UGH, it's just like Marvel quipslop!"
Actually kill yourself.
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>>573384967
Damn I guess I'll have to start posting shota Chara since absolutely no one cares about that, only shota gota upsets people
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>>573385720
the perfect person...
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>>573385472
being male and wanting to fuck a pussy isn’t exactly breaking boundaries
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>>573385769
for the dull of mind: the line is insincere irony
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Me looking down at kris' cock to see what i will be working with and ending up...
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Goat stretching time!
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>>573385826
Wouldn't it make more sense to kill them?
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>>573385903
Not your blog. Drink bleach.
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>>573385606
Both are 10 years old, find other relevant examples beyond what you know from middle school
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I think my fave is nice
Do you guys have a fave too?
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>>573385903
if I fumbled this bad I'd have killed myself by now, you are the bravest soul in this thread, may you two meet again
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>>573385903
how do i unsubscribe from this blog
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>>573385807
you go back to posting nice tasque ass you goddamn traitor.
be good for ONE thing.
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Why are all the fans on Twitter and Tiktok braindead teenagers? Where are the people who played Undertale or Chapter 1 when they came out? (aside from here, of course)
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>there are leakers lurking in this thread
I'm telling on ya!
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>>573385826
please never kill yourself, whoever you are. there's nothing wrong with your gender identity
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>>573386138
the WAIT killed them
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>>573385929
He’s not roping Kris into anything, they’re going to go tell the mayor what happened so that people can be protected. Asgore’s priorities have been completely righted. He’s not thinking about himself, here, but about others. His primary conclusion was that his obsession was pointless. Everything else follows from this conclusion. Now that he is seeing and thinking clearly, he realizes nobody ever actually said “ASGORE WHY DID YOU KILL DESS I HATE YOU RESIGN YOU DON’T DESERVE HAPPINESS LOOK WHAT YOU DID”
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>>573385467
Trans guy noelle is just noelle but more hot and confident sorry
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>>573386158
They were just being hopeful, anon.
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>>573385792
Yeah what was THAT about
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>>573386105
they're a real hero
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>>573385128
is it pathetic that i was wishing for any kind of response from that transanon? any crumb to keep the delusion going. it was probably some bait post meant to spur on the stupid gender wars going on here, but here i am - thinking of only myself, again
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Why are people so averse to Kris being jealous
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>>573386242
Memory from the deleted save file.
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>>573386028
she doesnt have a penis
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I held the shadow crystal up to my eye and saw /utg/ talking about the game
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>>573385903
i felt your pain through my screen and almost felt like drinking to handle the pain thinking i was in your situation, id yell at myself in the mirror too damn
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>>573386056
No>>573386086
You first. Let them blog, faggot.
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>>573386316
They had phalliplasty
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most kris fan analysis of their characterization about how they're secretly in love with noelle or susie feels like projecting
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Stop posting Kris he has nothing to do with your troon fantasies
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>>573386330
I held the shadow crystal up to my eye and I saw Noelle stripping athletic tape off of her crotch, so I kept watching.
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>>573386436
It's not a secret, though. It's just looking at the words on the screen.
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>>573385903
Saddest post I've read on 4chan yeah I'd never be able to live with myself if this happened, stay strong queen.
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>>573384517
Many are saying this
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>>573384671
^This. There are two kinds of self-referential humor: one that respects source material... and one that doesn't. That "joke" was the latter. Many jokes in ch5 felt that way. Which is weird, ch1-4 never had that problem.
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>>573386436
You would be right if you posted this before ch5
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>>573386230
nothing hotter than osteoporosis, inflamed scars where tits used to be, and potentially a rot dog. i agree. the pcos voice is sexy too
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>>573386330
Caroelle AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE
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>>573386330
This is probably what Carol looks like on most days, her single on-screen appearance was just her in a really bad mood.
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>>573386316
Kris is a nonbinary futa and they have a cock and tits get over it
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kris and aqua dancing
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>tfw you were just hopium shitposting, but it turns out you were right
MewGODS have the sight!
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>>573386542
eh i think that's just newness bias. i maintain that ralsei saying 'please step on me' is the worst thing toby ever wrote
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>>573386523
Only I said it. Don't take credit for my work or you'll be hearing from my lawyers.
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>>573383904
this is awesome
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>>573386137
hmph!! i am a free man, i post what i want when i feel like it!! you aren't asking for me to post tasque ass because you want to compensate for your gay thoughts or something? how about i just keep edging you with the potential that i could post tasque ass at any point but i keep stalling it? how about that? you like that? you silly boy?
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Kris's nonbinary Teenage Pregnancy
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>>573386436
no, it's pretty obvious he has a crush on susie, if you weren't retarded you would've picked it up from all the susie related options in chapter 2
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>>573386542
bless chapter 5 but i think on future replays thats the one people are gonna skip the most of
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>>573386330
so topical /utg/ is just weird route /utg/?
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>>573386552
Imagine talking this way about heart surgery
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>>573386467
>misgendering the masc-leaning andro enby
no. bad. *sprays nuh uh spray at u*
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>>573386436
>with noelle
True
>or susie
They ask her to slam them against the lockers again and nuzzle them in this chapter
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https://poal.me/kfdl6k
https://poal.me/kfdl6k
https://poal.me/kfdl6k
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>>573386158
>hotwife
mettacuckfag post
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What was the ralsei joke that got people pissy I alredy forgot everything about ch5
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>>573386620
Not really. Chapters 3-4 were released metaphorically yesterday. I played Chapter 2 when it came out, so...
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>>573386542
What are you people even malding about?
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>>573386606
I was worried this was going to be porn but this is adorable
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>>573385903
I don't get the story, is it that Steve was trying to nonverbally tell you he was trans and you didn't catch it or that he was trying to it it when he noticed you were hiding your bones(?) so it was a way to comfort you and you didn't catch it????
I don't understand this social situation to know how to react
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>>573386542
Are we really acting like "important bosses get unique music" isn't a borderline universal medium trope now. Please take your head out of your ass.
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>>573386729
we're having an intervention you have a poll addiction you're neglecting your children
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>Silver Watch's Graze Time is considered more of a tradeoff ability because it slows down TP Gain overall which can negatively impact some fights
>Seth Specs' Invuln Time Up is largely considered a purely good upside even though it effectively does the same thing if you DO get hit, and if you don't it's essentially just a slightly altered Dealmaker with a nonexistant secondary effect
I don't get it. I feel like if your aim is one piece per member you're much better off going Blue Shoes for Ralsei, Yellow Hat for Ralsei/Susie, and Green Apron for Kris (and Orange Gloves for Susie if you're giving the Hat to Ralsei but still wanted the Apron for Kris. Even if Scythemare TP down is a mid effect it has the single strongest stat boost in the game alongside doling out the most stats overall of any equipment next to the Yellow Hat).
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>>573386217
I still feel there isn't enough connection between "My obsession was extreme and lead to my kid getting hurt" and "No one blames me for what happened to Dess" but I understand the concept existing itself. All I mean is that there should have been more bridging of the ideas in the game itself, it's presented as a text dump cutscene after Kris is injured. I'd get it more if Asgore emphasized seeing Kris fight for his sake made him realize THAT.
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>>573385534
I'd be fine if he actually went schizo apeshit and became the endgame boss. but sadly we wouldn't have the Flowery fight and his boss theme so I honestly don't know. the themes should be balanced and shit should've hit the fan after chapter 4.
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>>573386620
That was foreshadowing stepping on Ralsei being a major mechanic in chapter 5
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>>573386754
when you enter the pink door ralsei is like "oh, are we going to fight an interesting person with a cool song?"
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>>573386159
thank you aw
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>>573386754
When he said Susie's vagina slime is so caustic it could be used to etch metal.
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Is Noel a transman or just a full on male Noelle?
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https://poal.me/t5fe8g
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>>573386878
that's not a joke that's just canon though
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I like Aqua!
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>>573386635
you have ONE redeeming thing about you and you just gaypost at me like that?

THE AUDACITY
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>UT/DR "fans" get butthurt mad when the creator pokes fun at his own work
This is Sonic fandom levels of snowflake, holy shit.
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>>573386436
Anon the Onsen scene with Susie basically confirms it, them looking at Susie "as if she's stupid" when asked who they're into and outright REFUSING to properly give their support for her and Noelle's relationship makes it obvious. I don't even like shipping shit, I just think Kris having an unrequited crush to go alongside their feelings of being pushed to the side by Noelle being involved enhances their character.
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>>573386272
It's fine I still check my phone wishing for a text like every hour
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>>573386894
It was always male Noelle. Trans Noelle was only ever a result of people not knowing that reindeer does have antlers too.
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>>573386436
kris basically says susie is their type during the sauna scene, i don't know how i'm meant to read that platonically. if you want to ignore romance, just look at susie making their thing, the dark worlds fun, a susie kris and noelle thing at the end of the chapter. kris obviously looked upset moping in the hallway after that
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>>573386894
Every time someone talks about how "Noel would totally x" it's something Noelle would never do (not even weird route Noelle) so I'm leaning more to it being an OC that visually resembles a male Noelle
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>>573386976
>looking at Susie "as if she's stupid" when asked who they're into
That happens when she says she doesn't know if they're into Humans or Monsters and the look is because they're the only human in town.
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>>573387041
Men often act differently than women
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>>573386051
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>>573385826
>dating someone
They are not nearly worth it just dump them cry a bit and move on
No way someone saying sweet words and a giving a few cummies has earned that much stock in the dating phase, guys dating is the trial phase, not the soulmate phase. You can't speedrun it no matter how hard you try
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>>573386542
this, the roblox joke, the touhou joke, they were too quippy
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>>573386636
Kris's nonbinary legs spread mating press
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>>573386778
And I watched quite a few tv shows, this sort of mean-spirited meta-humor typically happens in later seasons, when show have declined. It happened too many times, I recognize it on sight. ch1-4 were fine. ch5 was not.
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>I want to suck on engorged FTM dickclit
Why did Noelle say this in Chapter 5? I thought she liked Susie.
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>>573387129
carol would not be fucking scene it's chronologically innacuraghgruhghr *bursts a blood vessel*
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>>573387098
The look is because Kris has an obvious monster fetish and doesn't like humans
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>>573386810
The game ruining your immersion is not a good behavior.
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>>573386330
To have an on-topic thread there is only one way...
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>>573387129
anachronistic carol pisses me off
i am the original carol would never be goth or alt or emo truther, she clearly was a prissy nerd type
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>I'd be fine if he [description of a way worse game than deltarune currently is]
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>>573387192
Kris fingering their non-binary pussy while they watch Ralsei make-out with Susie.
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>>573387041
>>573386894
Noelle isn't trans so a trans Noel still has some leeway for ooc-for-noelle actions
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Why was Ramb hyping up the Shadow Mantle game as the game where you’re actually free to decide what to do (aka your choices matter)? To me it didn’t look like you had much of a choice except for slaying any npc on your path. It wasn’t even an open world, you just followed another predetermined path.
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>>573387079
violence against women is something for lesbian couples.
or men from the 1950s
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The entirety of Hometown was brainscanned and that's why they suddenly got cut off from the internet and letters.
Dess isn't actually dead in the original Hometown, there was a fuck-up with the copying process that made her copy lose her body.
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>>573386797
Sre you autistic by chance it was a game he played where he passed completely to the naked eye and wouldn't tell me but v again through out our small experiences together he'd drop more and more hints that wouldn't penetrate my thick moid skull because I was gullible took him at his word that he was just a guy like he would of wanted
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>>573385903
>transitions
>could choose any name they want
>steve
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>>573387181
to be fair, i think this chapter was also a way for toby to get in levity and have a fun vibe working on deltarune one last time because apparently its going to get real screwed up
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>>573386695
no correlation
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>>573387181
The Roblox joke was fine and in line with da Hacker's previous jokes about Minecraft and Terraria. The Touhou joke was just silly flavor text from a random Floradinn. I wouldn't call either quippy or out of place.
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>>573387003
being so miserable shouldn't be this... fun?
i stupidly deleted the entire chat convo we've been having like, a day after the breakup
in the long term, it was probably smart to do, since i'd probably be even more miserable looking back at snapshots of when things used to be better, unable to claw my way back

you'd think after 5 years, i'd finally let go
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>>573387342
You're the original Carol? Can you kick me in the face and humiliate me? Please?
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>>573386894
artist anon drew noel with a penis so he's cis
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>>573387330
There was never any "immersion" in the first place we talk the menu this chapter you dunce, one of several video game references that happen constantly and have happened constantly isn't throwing you unless you just missed them all for some reason
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>>573387235
Susie is FTM
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>>573387235
She still has feelings for kris dw about it all teenagers are like that
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>>573387392
not even an ironic buttslap? krautsie you sound low test, what if the woman actually demands the buttslaps? bro?
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>>573387342
carol would definitely be a hardliner second-wave university feminist, like a bra burner type
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>>573387391
That was the point. You lose freedom when you seek it.
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>>573387391
That's the joke, anon. It's commentary on games where "you can kill anyone" and how that's treated as some kind of 'freedom'. You know, like Undertale
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Deltarune theorists all have fucking brainrot and it's not worth discussing the future events of the game because everyone is so entrenched in their theories that they will ignore on-screen evidence in favor of their own (mis)understanding of the game. Theory discussions and speculations are no longer fun or interesting and that's not good for UT or DR.
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>>573387041
for me noel is like an extremely au noelle. you could definitely play it totally straight and just have him be a quivering golden boy who learns to toughen up due to the soul’s influence but for me its hotter if he takes after rudy some. charismatic but stressing himself out due to his brother being gone (i like thinking of dess being a guy too in this au) and he also has buck roid rage and is resentful of various things and it all just builds up
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>>573387330
>whole series is about balancing leaning on the 4th wall and treating the universe in it with integrity
>character who already had a mine implying he could hear the game soundtrack
>kris can also presumably hear the soundtrack since they are familiar enough with several songs past and future to play elaborate piano arrangements of them
>"NOOO YOURE LEANING ON THE 4TH WALL THE WRONG WAY"
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>>573386976
if noelle really was originally 'the girl', then susie dating her is undoing all kris and probably carol's hard work of keeping noelle out of the way
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>>573387417
What name would you choose?
also
>they
kys
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if you're playing the weird route, you should do the knight fight with kris solo wearing the shadowmantle, not only is it a fun challenge, but it also feels like a second snowgrave neo esque fight (especially when you consider that tvslop heals the exact same amount of hp as the CD bagels) where you will struggle a bit but eventually pull through, it may seem scary at first, but do consider that even if you go pacifist in chapter 3 weird route, shadowmantle kris will get around 15 damage on most attacks, probably less with the right equipment (tennatie is godtier), also kris will be doing close to 70ish damage throughout the first half of the fight if everybody else is swooned, and will scale up to doing over 100 damage per hit
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>>573387652
fire away lad. show us your work
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I lust for goat femboy cheeks, post your favorite
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susie is mtf
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>>573386878
>Susie's vagina slime
UNF plunging hot dick into a quivering Susie and having your cock explore Susie's swamp in every angle with no way of knowing what is hotter, your pulsing dick or Susie's vagina eating your dick
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>>573387669
why not just make an oc
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Fish I wish
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"ABOGABO BAGOABAGABOGBA BABGOAGAOGBA ABOGABOGA BAOGABOGABOGA" - Tenna
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>>573387408
>Sre you autistic
Troon obsessed chuds all are autistic manchildren with ODD, yes
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I AM GRINDING MY PENIS AGAINST MY BEDSHEETS WHILE READING YOUR POSTS
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>>573387557
no, i am not into that kind of stuff.
i would if specifically told to, but i think i would over-react and leave marks by accident.
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>>573387417
Its better then fucking Aiden or Ash Elliot or any other fucking softball names, you wouldn't assume anyone named Steve was Trans would you?
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>>573387098
I did forget the framing of Susies question which is my bad, but I don't agree with that being why they give her the look. In a Weird Route scene it's revealed that Susie's operating under the assumption that Kris might move away for college, and even if she does have the opinion that she wouldn't want them to go I don't think she'd expect them to just stick around Hometown forever. Susie's asking because she sees a future where Kris does meet other humans and falls in love completely divorced from her because she obviously sees them as a friend and nothing more. I feel like Kris is giving her that look because I don't think Kris themselves has really had true romantic feelings for anyone BUT Susie over the course of their life, so when Susie asks "what would they prefer" it strikes them as a left field question of a preference they'd never even floated in their mind.
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>>573387805
you forgot the YAA
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>>573387805
He's lovely!
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>Haha, wouldn't it be CRAZY if there was some kind of boss fight at the end of this boss fight questline?
Explain why this is supposed to be funny
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>>573387652
Theory wank has genuinely killed my ability to enjoy mysteries. I don't give a fuck about any of the overarching questions of the game because it's all schizo shit.
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>>573387676
The funny part is this is actually the least 4th wall breaking/referential video game Toby's probably made the entire time. They already went to a name brand video game world after all, this isn't a direct riff on anything other than boss fights as a concept
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>>573387547
That's not what I'm talking about and you know it, disingenuous shit.
I liked Ralsei's talk about battle UI. It was serious. How Susie handled it was a fuckin' joke, but the grain of her real feelings can still gleaned: even with all those revelations, she consider Dark Worlds "real". My immersion wasn't shattered in that moment, when Ralsei spoke my immersion deepened if anything.
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>>573387774
because its an au. what are your thoughts on the post above you
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>>573387838
Wow, ok.
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>>573387575
maybe less extreme, but it makes her relationship with rudy look cuter. i imagine college age carol was a nerd who wore long skirts that reached her hooves and toriel convinced her to dress more slutty, so she wore a tank top for the first time at a party and that's where rudy hit on her and got slapped to shit
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>>573387805
>"ABOGABO [P'CHOWWW] BAGOABAGABOGBA BABGOAG-[Fallen Down riff]-AOGBA ABO-[faggot!!!!]GABOGA BAOGABOG-[TV Time riff]-ABOGA" - Tenna
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>>573387717
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>>573387714
NTA, but can you fags stop masturbating about hidden secret knowledge for a second and discuss the plot? There's already interesting secrets implied in the way Kris has gone about creating the fountains. Why is that never discussed? It's always friend this, gaster that, the knight is sans, "device device device".
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>>573387946
it sure is a post
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>>573387836
>krautsie is a soft and gentle boy
german lad more ralsei-core than previously thought
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>>573388009
why dont YOU discuss it? get it all going
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>>573387908
it's not funny in and of itself it's supposed to help sell the idea that it's a fakeout where you just fight orange again
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>WAY UP HIGH
>IN THE SKY
>WITH THE SUN
>UP MY ASS
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>>573387908
*kisses you while grabbing your hips with one hand and the back of your head with my other hand* mwaah~ feel better now? hmmm? are your stimmies over or you need more?
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>>573387820
nobody would care about you guys if you did not force yourselves into conversations and spaces, constantly. someone was like “troons don’t live in my head rent free they kick down the door to my house and shit on the carpet” and i get that. see: everything going on with mew mew. you guys are obnoxious and annoying
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>>573388009
>discuss the plot
The plot is shit. Who cares.
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>>573387937
No, it still pretty much is. A joke about the concept of video game bosses when they've literally interacted with video game bosses in an in-universe video game already is perfectly diegetic and you are just mad because you think Toby is making fun of motifsloppers, which he is but naturally
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>>573387929
Yeah it's like "wow omg toby made the character who likes music and can hear the in-game music reference the in-game music" is this seriously what we're fucking pearl clutching over now?? The /v/ermin are seriously grasping at straws
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>>573388092
anon stop my weewee's hard...
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Is it odd to find a longing or comfort in the Forgotten Man's position? Like, the idea of being so "forgotten" that reality itself seems to bend to obscure you, yet you still persist. You still are, even if you aren't really sure what is is that you are anymore. I find a strangely sweet comfort in that kind of existence.
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>>573388092
Stop raping me, it's rude.
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>>573388080
Ok, what do you think will happen to pizzapants.
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>>573387417
Not funny
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>>573387676
every time except gerson that kris has been to a secret boss it's been kris's scary trauma event, it feels weird to make a joke about it
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>>573386858
Ralsbert...
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I think I'm getting too old to care about this shit but everything else coming out is pure slop. Am I supposed to get a "real man" hobby now like fishing?
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The same people triggered over Ralsei's Jest are the same people who felt targeted and shamed over Battat being a theoryfag, I bet.
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>>573388230
burns down ice-e's and skips the lake on normal route
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>>573387676
>the wrong way
this but unironically. There are right ways to do this, and wrong ways to do it. The game was handling it perfectly in ch1-4, but ch5 is stumbling half of the time.
For example, Papyrus's dating UI appearing during Pink battle was good meta-humor. Geninue, not sarcastic or ironic.
Meanwhile other jokes (like pre-battle dialogue before Pink) just makes ch5 seem very self-conscious of itself, almost hiding behind irony and sarcasm.
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Being a "flower man is the flower in the prophecy panel" truther pre-release makes it even more annoying to see everyone still saying the flower man is still Asgore like I figured this shit out before the game told us and people still haven't figured it out AFTER that
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>>573388181
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did Toby forgor?
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>>573388114
Mew Mew has been a trans icon since 2018 you need to grow the fuck up man let people be happy for themselves
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No man should ever use a tilde in his posts. It's... indecent. Shameful.
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>>573387979
i see carol as a cool yet neurotic career woman who needs an "anchor" kind of person like rudy so she doesnt go fucking insane
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>>573388295
I mean yeah both are mean spirited jabs at the player for daring to take the game seriously.
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I wish I was soft and cute and attractive and not just a depressed blob of ugly fat and worthlessness.
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>>573388348
no, kris just threw it away, they hate tenna
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>>573388252
Jevil wasn't all that traumatizing unless we're going ahead and taking those theories of Saum and Asriel having history and assuming the trauma stems from that by association.
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>>573388139
Anon, I don't fucking care about motifs.
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I wish I could fuck Kris Dreemurr.
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>>573387417
Steve is a fucking cool name fuck everyone who doesn't think Steve is a cool name
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You guys fucking suck, I'm leaving this thread to do something productive (touch myself to scenarios with fave)
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>>573387805
Big if true
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>>573388114
>nobody would care about you guys if you did not force yourselves into conversations and spaces
99% of anti trans spaces are obsessed with hunting down and harassing random nobody trannies for existing and bring them up constantly, ESPECIALLY when they're irrelevant
>everything going on with mew mew
I don't see how /v/ermin coming into the tranny thread for the tranny game and pissing and shitting themselves that people won't let them cope about about the tranny character not being a tranny and now keep trying to derail threads over it
>you guys are obnoxious and annoying
Projection, you are unloved and unwanted. Back to the eslums
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>>573388432
So give it to Ralsei.
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>>573387246
>>573387342
Counterpoint
Scene carol is hot
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>>573388416
maybe do something about it?
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Had a dream where chapter 6 released alongside a spin-off Lightners Live game starring Lancer
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There are only like 15 people in here and every one of them is annoying as fuck
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Ghost Mew Mew > Pink body Mew Mew
Fight me!
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>>573388561
what about me
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>>573387669
>h-he's cool and suave like rudy
moids ruin everything
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>>573388268
Try suicide instead.

>>573388348
Toby Fox has a life, you sad, nitpicky loser.
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>you are STUPID if you care about mysteries
>you are STUPID if you care about music
>you are STUPID if you care about boss fights
>you are STUPID if you care about Ralsei Rancher
>you are STUPID if you care about having fun
Damn, Toby, what am I supposed to care about?
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>>573388397
Hehehe~ even if I give you in particular all the attention and tell you I'm not a man~?
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>>573388493
melted it down in the cauldron for scrap
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>>573388415
so close to getting it. let me spell it out for you: taking video games so seriously is stupid.
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I'm eating cheese rn. just thought you should know
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>>573388561
i am a sensible man though
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>>573388414
i imagine she was more outwardly autistic in college and rudy was the first person she felt comfortable around to drop the act of trying to pretend to be normal. meanwhile rudy enjoyed her earnestness and drive. she probably wanted to be mayor since she was a young doe
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>>573387686
>>573387838
>>573388247
>>573388480
found the steves
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>>573388574
Ghost Mew Mew personality with body's body (Like at the start of the fight before they disharmonized)...mhm
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>>573388595
Can you elaborate on that?
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>>573388531
I’m depressed and chronically tired. Maybe I’ll just starve myself and do some in home aerobics because it’s too fucking hot outside. Won’t fix being ugly but maybe it wouldn’t be so bad.
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>>573388561
I think I'm pretty cool because I like Seth.
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>>573388348
I won't let him forget. This is my mission.
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>>573388595
you can make your own posts and create your own content about noel just like i did and do
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>>573388561
I LOVE ALL OF MY /UTG/ FRIENDS!
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>>573388638
cite your sources, gayboy
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>>573387342
carol would wear pearl earrings and beige cashmere sweater vests
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>>573387686
With that story, he sounds like a Mikhail so he can have access to Misha
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I'm sorry for saying the Ralsei meta joke was super lame I didn't think it would cause this
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These Suselle scenes are going to feel weird once Toby "comes out" as an autogynephile.
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>>573388316
>almost hiding behind irony and sarcasm
How? The joke is that Susie and Ralsei are hyping themselves up over some out of the way secret room and are immediately disappointed by an existing character (orange) being there. Ralsei talking about the music isn't anymore "self conscious" than Susie expecting a fun battle. The game spends the whole chapter leaning into the diagetic elements of the gameplay, it hardly feels out of place. If anything the irony is that their reaction mirrors the anti-mew mew fags reaction to her coming back
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>>573388774
We're in unemployed hours, not your fault
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>>573388608
You talk and act like a Sonic fan. Get the fuck over yourself.
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>>573388529
inaccuracy played as being accurate is the opposite of hot
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>>573388561
the mewtrannies are the most annoying followed by the aquapedos. funnily enough these two groups overlap quite a bit. degenerate fetishes tend to be comorbid or whatever
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>>573387686
Ily attitude
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>>573388721
whats ur pronouns for sether
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These NormalNPC scenes are going to feel weird once Toby "comes out" as a cannibal
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>>573388080
Chapter 1 is a Kris fountain and Chapter 2 is a knight fountain, confirmed as of Chapter 5 with Asgore's recent notes and the black shard he found in the computer room.

This gives us a potential motive for both: Chapter 1's fountain was created to kickstart the prophecy, and pulled Susie instead of Noelle.
Chapter 2's fountain was created directly under Noelle to pull her into the scheme and start fulfilling the prophecy with her as the girl.

This potentially means that Kris' motive in all of this is keeping Noelle out of the prophecy, and that might be what the 'promise' they made is all about. Kris may have purposefully set things up so Susie would be The Girl, sacrificing her in place of Noelle.
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>>573388876
Idk whatever Seth says at the time, it's a flower.
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>>573388828
i’m actually at work right now. nobody is in the office but me and i’m basically done for the day beyond clerical tasks that’ll take me like ten seconds to do
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>>573388230
worst case but most realistic? gets together with nicecream guy. i dont see how he can recover from getting that broken though.
also nicecream guys writing in that scene was really realistic. ive met people who are similarly rudderless in any kind of argument, just repeating back stuff what is said but as a question, surrendering control of the entire situation to the other party out of meekness. people like nicecream guy are naive in a bad way
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>>573388852
Say what you will about pedophiles but they don't pretend to be morally superior to anyone.
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>>573388529
it's extremely unattractive to be OOC, plus toriel was the wild party girl yet these fanarts dress her more conservatively than carol for some reason
>>573388762
based and true
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those annoying dog scenes are going to feel weird once Toby "comes out" as a werewolf
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>Doomerdoot banned
Teehee
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>>573388869
ily2 integrity
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>>573388867
* Oi, luv, lets date!
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Why didn't Flowery just tell Asgore "by the way Gorey, Kris is working with the Knight and is going to betray you" is he stupid?
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>>573388835
You talk and act like Bulmashart
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teenagers imagining toby is closet trans is the same as them gay shipping the beatles except one is funny pubertal cringe and the other is Evil Groomer Encroachment
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>>573388998
How do I get your job?
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>>573388741
swedish law says so, my sensibility is written into the law and order of the land for stellar inspiration for the masses (it's in actuality a ploy for me to transfer the swedish citizens IQ unto me), (until someone says something)
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>>573388608
Susie, Lancer, Catti, and Toriel
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>>573389008
you've never seen people claiming that their ability to jack off to drawings of children is a display of superior moral discernment?
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>>573388987
their canon pronouns are they/them, fake sethhead
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>>573389054
I think Toby Fox is comfortable with his identity and sexuality. You however are a closeted homo tranny by every metric
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>>573388805
>charismatic
>attractive
>talented
>hard working
>beloved by millions
>extremely successful
>likely dating a qt asian girl
men like this dont debase themselves with trooning out
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Toriel is so lovely, she would be so repulsed if she could see how I live, if she could see into my shriveled little heart
Fuck
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>>573388867
Please be in chapter 6 or 7...
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>>573389054
They're so immersed in anti-white brainrot they can't comprehend a cishet white guy being genuinely woke. He has to be gay or trans or something.
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>>573388252
only mantle and Spamton are actual traumatic events (the weird route), Jevil is kris's edgy Flowey phase, Gerson represents calling to a higher power/the demon.
>it feels weird to make a joke about it
Jevil frames his battle as "a game where you lose when your HP is 0" it doesn't get more blatant than that. Also in universe it's not like there's some understanding between everyone that we're experiencing allegories for kris's life and the stuff about the body and soul is treated very seriously by Ralsei. Nothing about Spamton is treated like a joke by either susie or Ralsei and theyre both concerned about shaken Kris is after the battle, the pink scenario isn't anything like that
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>>573389037
The VAGUENPOSTKUNG kept vaguesplaining his vagueschizoboard to the Flowers so they only have a vague idea of what's going on and not enough to say Kris is working with the Knight.
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>>573389134
the only scandinavian law i liked was the law of jante. (danish)
these legopeople got good taste, even if they eat rög gröd med flöhde.
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>>573389054
>>573389173
Toby isn't trans but there is literally nothing wrong with being trans and he'd hate you for thinking otherwise
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>>573388987
sex with this flower!
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>>573389054
i know this is going to seem like a big scary word for 4chud but i find the insistence that only gay people can write gay characters therefore toby needs to be a lesbian to write suselle is incredibly bioessentialist and reductive. plenty of interesting stories are written by people who are not experiencing the lives their characters are living. it comes off as the opinion of a close minded conservative when they even joke about toby needing to be a lesbian
>this shit is so gay how can a MAN write this
yuck.
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>>573388867
Oouuugghh Rambu-chan >>573388869
daisuki
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>>573389128
you don’t want a dead end office job where you basically do nothing. it sounds like a dream and feels like one too at first until you see your friends getting promoted and making higher salaries whereas you barely scape 80k after 3 years of “work”. i gotta get out of here
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>>573389271
Noelle just looks like this to me
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>>573388268
Just do what you want, anon. I don't blame you for this attitude everything coming out sucks now
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>>573389223
Gerson has nothing to do with Kris because Kris did not open the church fountains. kris didn't know Gerson well enough to bring him back to life, for one
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>>573389160
I'm not a closeted tranny, I am a tranny
>>573389173
It has literally nothing to do with his race or politics, it's a juvenile headcanon based on the themes and subject matter in the game
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>>573388867
>"A motif I want." / "How much I work for."
>Penumbra Phantasm / Free / 30 POINTs an hour
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>>573389041
Do you just call anyone who points out that you're annoying "Bulmashart"?
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>>573388930
i think theres multiple parties trying to play the prophecy yeah. think about this: if the whole prophecy is about preventing the roaring, why hasnt the knight just hopped around town making as many fountains as it can? everything feels very, very set up, and i dont think itll be the knight in the end who causes the roaring. most likely itll be someone whos completely uninvolved with any of the plans anyone has
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>>573389271
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Like Bulma from DBZ, or what?
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>>573389317
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>>573383453
>>573384263
>>573384082
>>573384937
>>573386607
Thank you all for posting best girl, you all get a (You) extra points to those using hot fanart
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>>573389154
To be fair the question feels like a trap in the current thread where no matter what I said someone would probably be angry and continue shitting. So "whatever Seth wants" was my safest most seth-positive answer, anon. Not to mention you choose to ignore the flower tea time cutscene where Seth is clearly still figuring out what to be referred to as by the fact everyone supports Seth after Seth's own observation of being a flower.
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>>573389269
we don’t know what toby thinks of trans people and we likely never will. i’m of the opinion that he passively accepts them bc he thinks its part and parcel with leftism to graciously say water isn’t wet and doesnt think too much about it otherwise
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>>573389271
Oh god Noelle no don't eat me please I can give you my lunch pleamMMMPHHGHFFH
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>>573389612
It was Pointy in disguise... Waiting all this time for its moment to finally strike once again...
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>>573389384
>It has literally nothing to do with his race or politics, it's a juvenile headcanon based on the themes and subject matter in the game

But why does a person have to be trans to make a game with themes and subject matters related to being trans?
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>>573389330
>using bioessentialist unironically
aiyoooo kek
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>>573389556
putting a nice short side story of a lion transitioning and being happier for it seems kinda definitive
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has anyone drawn the final starwalker going a sick grind on the railing here yet
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>>573389556
Water is wet is a reason to accept Trans people, Chudley. Phenotypical expression is not binary. The same variance that makes your penis small makes gender a spectrum
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I was in IRC and some guy was kissing the moderator's asses and then that one angry mod showed up and told both of us to shut up. So fucking stupid. I hope the mods can stay awake and not completely ignore the board again
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>>573389259
>the law of jante
googled that and it was some philosophy babble, meh.
>rög gröd
do you mean "gröt"? it translates into porridge in english i think, we swedes eat that slop too sometimes.
>scandinavian law
reminds me that us swedes shot down denmarks attempt to unify scandinavia through the kalmar union, teehee :3
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So how long did it take her to smile?
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>>573389714
No I hate that fuck
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>>573389678
i am using it unironically. it's retarded to think men can only write about men
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I know it's a meme phrase but chapter 5 is when Deltarune really started to insist upon itself.
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>>573389223
Anon, Jevil's line is tragic. It doesn't make fun of anything.
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>>573389676
because they're retarded kids who project themselves onto their idols, especially when their idol is known to be supportive of their identity. this really isn't psychologically complex
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>>573389501
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>>573389820
chapter 5 is when deltarune felt most like a parody of itself
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>>573389556
if Toby comes from a progressive Christian background it is very unlikely he would be anti-trans
the only people who (thoughtfully) oppose trans people are strict materialists who can't conceive of the human being as anything but a meatsack with a certain set of genitals and puritans who need to see something given explicit license in scripture to take it as compatible with Christian thought
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>>573389697
you poor thing
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>>573389038
So I'm not the only one who thought of that when they saw that sprite
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I should've had a Susie in high school
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>>573389054
I'm old! (30) and I only suspect it because of his sudden aversion to being seen or using his voice publicly in the last 10 years. I don't actually care if he is or isn't transitioning and it's not really anyone's business anyway
>>573389173
>anti-white brainrot
The wignat victimhood mentality is sickening and I'm glad I wasn't cursed by whatever dead-end genes you need to have it
>>573389269
This, chuds can't comprehend that most people don't obsess about these topics like they do and don't define a person's worth by whether or not they check the right boxes
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>>573389541
does not change the fact everyone refers to them with they/them and they do not mind it whatsoever, if you choose to stay on the side of the bigots out of fear its a "trap" to be accepting of Seth's correct pronouns you are a real disgrace with no real principles or love for their character
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>>573389665
I gotta see how unhinged these are post chapter 7
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>>573389906
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https://files.catbox.moe/7r9a8z.mp4
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>>573389763
röd gröd is a fruit pudding, thickened juice and has some intact fruit in it. a nice dessert.
danes usually top it with flöhde which is whipped cream.

so ergo: röd gröd med flöhde.
its enjoyed up here in the north too, but the only topping here is usually vanilla sauce.

in german it is just called "Rote Grütze" which, even to my ears is not that appetizing to the ears, i admit.

because the word "Grütze" is pretty much up there with the english word for "Gruel"
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>>573390005
>30 is old on 4chan now
sigh...
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>>573389460
I wish I could be pedophile groomed again
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>>573390028
This is what I'm talking about. I'm going back to enjoying my fave in silence. Hostility gets you no support.
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>>573389138
Catti is fat and Toby is Japanese so you're not supposed to care about her either
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>>573389939
Would chapter five have been better if Flowery were a sexy woman that taunted Ralsei for his lack of masculinity?
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>>573389676
That's not what anyone thinks, anon. What they think is experience makes people better at writing things, and that good writing implies experience, not that it requires it. I say this not even thinking they're right, this is just basic shit
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Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
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>>573389934
>the only people who (thoughtfully) oppose trans people are strict materialists
even trans people know material reality exists. if it doesn’t mean anything, then where are all the afab trans women? kek
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>>573390028
NTA but this conversation reads like you just want to be angry without a reason
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>>573389934
If God exists why would make it so sometimes a female soul is born into a male body or vice versa, causing them incredible mental distress?
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>>573390092
i'd tickle their greenits anytime
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>>573389934
I just hate the idea of someone willingly becoming what is essentially a mutant with no real upsides involved, especially since the transing processs usually makes people worse instead of better. Hence why Mad Mew Mew / Pink aren't trans characters because they aren't mutants.
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sexth
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>>573390123
Good night!
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>>573390183
Welcome to 4chan, where Spider-Man is almost enjoying his anger
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>>573389037
Because Kris is Asgore's son and it would upset Asgore deeply if he knew the truth
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>>573390039
>fruit pudding, thickened juice and has some intact fruit in it. a nice dessert.
don't think i've ever eaten that before, sounds new to me
okay googled it, and it does indeed look like a nice dessert :)
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>>573386606
Where was this posted? Can't find the cover on lumena's xitter or youtube.
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>>573390028
omg who cares lil tranny let him see seth as a trap or a loli or whatever the fuck
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>>573390090
>morals based on emotion and not rationality
underage
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K r is raping noelle with they're enlargrd testosterone infused clit thats the size of a normal dick painful sex missionary style they both cry afterwards
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>>573390123
night
>>573390034
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>>573390213
god is dead so its now up to us to love mankind
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>>573390213
a basic premise of Christian thought is that the world is not as it should be because of sin. this isn't just true of human beings but the entire natural order. there should not be death or decay or dishharmony. but God loves the world so much he became one of us, a creature and a man to save the world from within. and in his resurrection he showed us that his love is more powerful than anything, even death. death itself is dead. it was an illusion, a temporary error. all disharmony will disappear in eternity. there will be no dysphoria of any kind
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>>573390247
if trans mutants could just possess the body of an adorable catgirl I'm sure 99% would do just that
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>>573390276
Ralsei tried to heal him...
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>>573390376
fruit pudding cakes is ralsei related, so it's ontopic
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>>573389380
>Kris did not open the church fountains
True, the knight did but they also opened the library fountain and Spamton still is an allegory for the weird route
>Kris didn't know Gerson well enough to bring him back to life
First of all, they wouldn't have to since they didn't open the fountain, but even if they did (kriselleknight or otherwise) and had to know Gerson there's no way they weren't pretty familiar with Gerson since he was the most famous member of a small town community and involved enough with the church to write theological musings that his son uses as homily. Second of all, that's not how allegory works. I'm not saying Gerson is the higher power Kris reached out to, I'm saying his place in the secret boss order represents a period where Kris was either summoning the demon(gaster) or reaching out for divine intervention(the player/angel)
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>>573390090
>Hostility gets you no support.
This nigga would report a jew to nazi officers if the jew gave him a middle finger earlier in the day.
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>>573389934
> the only people who (thoughtfully) oppose trans people are strict materialists who can't conceive of the human being as anything but a meatsack with a certain set of genitals and puritans who need to see something given explicit license in scripture to take it as compatible with Christian thought
hmmm. Saying men have dicks isn’t reducing men to their dicks, if that’s what you’re trying to say. Like lemons are yellow. I’m not saying lemons are only yellow does that make sense to you? Obviously a lemon has a lot more going on than its color but commonly speaking, lemons are yellow. I’m not a puritan either, kid. My domme could tell you that!
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>>573390450
Imagine calling people who got growth surgery mutants
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>>573390213
Idk anon. Why does the bible say angels are genderless if the Christian God loves gender? Turns out religion is twisted and used to justify conservative positions, and that's its main purpose and function. What a surprise.
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>>573390213
God works in mysterious ways.
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>>573388009
It helps that device theory gets strengthened every single chapter, but not much plot happened in chapter 5. Just shipping bait, lore bait vagueposting, and "all your theories are wrong" sandwiched with "your theory might be true tee hee" bullshit.
I liked chapter 5, the events were fun, the implications of the flower people and especially Aqua are interesting, Flowery was a good antagonist, every character had good moments no matter how minor, the Suselle shit wasn't as bad as people said.

But even with all of that there's not much to discuss. What do you have to say about Kris's fountain-making habits? In particular people think chapter 5's fountain creation was random and out of the blue, but it was clearly pre-meditated in order to get their hands on the shelter code (and tear it up), along with getting Asgore kidnapped to further The Conspiracy. But is there something else I've missed?
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>>573390536
none? sin is a condition of the world, it's not always about personal culpability.
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>>573390535
im consistent
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>>573390123
Goat night
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can we just go back to talking about college age carol sex instead of posting gore babies
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you are all genius amazing thread thank you
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>>573390090
bitch they're not your fave if you refuse to use their canon pronouns because someone was mean to you gtfo
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Can you niggas stop arguing about transgender theology and posting shock images?
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>>573390247
Gender dysphoria is so unpleasant that living as a "mutant" is preferable.
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please
shut the fuck up about pronouns and gender
just fucking fave post
can we go back to just fucking faveposting
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>>573390624
im not super well researched on christianity, but didnt jesus forgive all sin past, present and future?
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>>573385945
Chara is a loli and people love lolis, that's why.
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>>573390713
I love it when people actually get whats fucking sick about titans instead of just being le spooky big black guys
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>>573390535
no correlation
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>>573390485
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creacher
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>>573390756
Not my fault a fake sethfag refuses to acknowledge their canon they/them pronouns
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>>573390702
>angy
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what if seth had humongous tits and aqua like, bounced on them for one of the bullet patterns
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>>573388324
I bow to your superiority because I still didn't even piece it all together until I looked at that prophecy panel again post chapter 5 and saw the flower RIGHT FUCKING THERE.

Does it feel nice to knock one out of the park like that?
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>>573390739
i think people who dont sympathize with trans struggles generally have a hard time putting themselves into another persons shoes
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How do you get out of this situation? Keep in mind that Susie and Noelle are both canonically stupid
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>>573390504
I didn't say you thought any of those things, what I said is the evidence shows Kris didn't open the fountain, and that means the fountain can't reference their inner struggles in-universe. You can draw connections between things outside the story's framework all you like. I thought you were arguing there was something else.

For what it's worth I don't think Gerson represents what you say he represents. To me he is the opposite of an appeal to a higher power: He represents confidence in oneself. In your framework, Gerson represents Kris deciding to take the prophecy in hand and shaping its outcome, or gathering strength to break it.
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>>573390812
Sure there isn't if you're retarded
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>>573390837
you could stop sperging about it though
like nobody is going to stop using she/he for seth even if you piss yourself bloody about it so just shut up, you’re annoying
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>>573390450
But then that would simply be possession, not transitioning, which is still wrong but not for the reason transitioning is
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>>573390247
Pink possessed the body then got mad at it for not functioning the way she wanted, and had to be defeated to learn to coexist with her body, idk why people keep insisting that the Mew Mew body was perfect for her, she thought it was when in reality she was breaking it by not listening to it. Instead, people would rather dumb it down to "she got her perfect body" while also ignoring what this implies about Kris and the Soul.
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>>573390321
AND NOW GOOGLE: QUARKBÄLLCHEN
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>>573390812
arent incels who mew and get affirming surgery in basically the same predicament as trans people? i dont think there should be any discord between the two
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>>573390339
>>573390523
>>573390702
>>573390837
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>>573390913
said someone who’s likely never stepped foot in a soup kitchen or homeless shelter in his life
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>>573390837
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I love confused awkward teenagers having unprotected sex
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>“Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.” - Gandhi
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i love games where i kill people in brutal ways
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post cakes

>>573391034
erm, no thank you, that sounds like scary gay food if the name is anything to go by
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>>573390951
canon is canon
you are just objectively wrong and a fake fan
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>>573390914
susie canonically knows kris opened the chapter 5 fountain and tried to destroy the shelter code so there's nothing to get out of
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>>573389556
>"we don't know what Toby thinks but I think he believes something close enough to my own beliefs because anything else would make me uncomfortable"
L M A O. Dress lion was an explicit trans NPC in Undertale and she exists in Deltarune as a happy woman, get over it
>>573389541
Personally Seth choosing a masculine name over "Purple" and their general behavior leads me to a transmasc interpretation of the character. Like a lil fujo freak of a transman who self-inserted into a lot of yaoi.
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>>573390756
Fave got alllllll the snacks at a bin store so now Fave, while dieting, is also set for the last few games of the WC, since there are still gummies and alcohol leftoever from the Chapter 5 binge
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>>573390978
It's still a method of attaining the body that makes you comfortable, transitioning can just do way less with what you have
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>>573391081
and the “predicament” in question is being unable to look how you want to look or experience things you personally feel entitled to experience. so narcissistic tendencies
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>>573391089
if someone works in a soup kitchen but doesnt at least sympathize with the psychological struggles of trans people i genuinely dont know what to say. thats such a baffling situation
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https://youtu.be/PcjHlpmvPIg?si=6JS6ryECtk1XM3Hy

Thoughts
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>>573391203
seth isn't a fujo thoughbeit she's a berdly fanboy
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>>573391110
Surprisingly, Toriel made this post.
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>>573390914
Unless Kris has a backup soul, one of us is dying after a few hours
If the kid puts me back in their body then I just ask Susie who she thinks made the fountain in the Dreemurr residence
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>>573390774
Jesus is a sacrifice, a self-giving sacrifice of infinite worth who eternally offers himself to the Father in heaven. A "priest in the order of Melchizedek." Baptism is a participation in his death and resurrection by which we are united to him. In baptism your sins become his sins and are nailed to the cross, and his merits become your merits and you are adopted as a child of God. you receive his Spirit, the Holy Spirit. you participate in his offering in heaven.

natural evil like birth defects and gender dysphoria and stuff like that don't exist because God is punishing us or anything but because the entire natural order has fallen, deviated from what it is supposed to be. redemption and salvation are not just legal (as in, it's not just about being forgiven), but also spiritual. it's about healing. the forgiveness opens the path to the healing. and this process of healing will not come to fruition until the end of this age, which is the age of repentance and transformation. the Christian Church is a hospital for sinners where we receive medicine in baptism and communion, receive forgiveness and strive to be better by cooperating with God's Spirit
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>>573390994
I never said that Pinks body was perfect, just that she legitimately does not qualify as a trans character
>>573390739
I just don't fucking believe you, if you like girly things you simply enjoy girly things, black and white thoughts that trans ideology promotes are exactly what the original promoters of mental health wanted to fight against, since mental illness and Gender attraction are not black and white concepts
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Jarona!
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Thank you Seth for taking the mantle of enby discourse away from Kris
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>>573390247
>what is essentially a mutant
it literally is not. no genetic changes occur, the majority of non reproductive sex differences are caused by which hormone is dominant in the body during important developmental windows. a trans person choosing which sex hormone should influence their phenotype and a developmentally intersex cis person, someone with a legit mutation experiencing similar effects on the surface obviously aren't the same
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>>573391192
She doesn't know that Kris removed the SOUL before opening the fountain or that they tore the paper on their own without the SOUL's input though
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Enrique!
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Reminder.
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>>573391247
interesting that you see it as being about entitlement. both incels and those experiencing gender dysphoria suffer from a mental illness and both types of people can be treated or at least made to feel more whole
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>>573391147
numberhomo, everything is scary if its yelled hard enough.
to master german is like speaking thu'um. it strikes fear in the uninitiated and the weak.
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seth is a cute girl and i wanna she/her tiddies
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>>573390774
Yeah but he forgot to run the rebuild, so it accidentally didn't change anything whatsoever about the human condition. Whoops
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>>573391356
My post is arguing on the side of not calling her a trans character and using details from the game, if you somehow missed that.
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>>573391147
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>>573390798
It doesn't help that Ralsei describes them as "the bump in the night"
That is more Goosebumps than Children of the Corn
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>>573391368
Green is so chill no one misgenders them
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>>573390756
the people who are just here for politics will continue to shit up the thread until some other slop grabs their attention, sadly.
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>>573391353
thank you for the insight, but what is the natural order "supposed to be"?
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I'm 36 years old and all I can think about is how tragic it is that Seth will never play a Super Smash Bros Falco mirror match with Berdly
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Still better than /draw/
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If you guys have watched FLCL I am becoming increasingly convinced that the final boss will be similar visually to episode 6.

Also chapter 5 plushies when
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>>573391147
That's Jerma's cake
>>573391284
I lasted at least a couple seconds before closing the video
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Trans this, trans that, how about you all transition into a fucking grave so we can discuss something less retarded?
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>>573391353
The snake was already in the garden, bitch-tits. Do you think Adam and Eve were vegetarian? Who did Cain and Abel marry?
Your religion is a wreck.
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>>573391276
its not that baffling because people in the soup kitchen are genuinely struggling whereas trannies are terminal, self martyring navel gazers. you people experience nothing new it’s all bullshit
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>>573391368
Why does every Fave I have end up caught in this bullshit discourse. I don't want to have a debate every time I post a picture of a character I like for fucks sake.
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>>573391607
ch5 merch will include a mew mew pose-able figure trust
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i hope u get a axewound if you are going to tranny discourse this thread
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>>573391684
Just use the canon pronouns and ignore the falseflaggers who didn't read the text in the game
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Anybody created a Pink Pippins yet? A Pinkpins as you will
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>>573391745
i already have one
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>>573391571
He's not allowed to think about that, because then he'd have to work towards making the world a better place like the one he imagined, instead of just waiting to die to get into heaven like a good little molested choir boy faggot
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>>573384082
She needed an attack where she sat on the green box and squished it

>>573384525
Have fun anon, the moon looks really fun! I got super lucky getting Sandrone and Citlali but I havent had time to explore yet.
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>>573391571
perfect, without sin or death in which everything is what it is supposed to be in perfect harmony.
>>573391652
>the snake was in the garden
yeah, satan exists
>do you think adam and eve were vegetarian
I mean, if you take the stories literally, yes that's what the book of Genesis says...? man isn't given permission to eat meat until after the flood.
>who did cain and abel marry
interpretations vary, but I think getting into the weeds about this is sort of missing the point of the book. It's not straightforward history. I don't know why you're being so hostile
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>>573391775
fujo was the first one, yes. if you mean a mad mew mew one, no
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>>573391547
Its a kids game made for Teenagers to young adults [22 at the oldest] i don't blame toby for putting that corny dialog in the game. Atleast we got a iron maiden reference too
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>>573391427
>to master german is like speaking thu'um
this is almost word for word what my exbf/paused relationship american honeyboo said about the swedish language a year or so ago. i miss him ;( wished he talked to me more often ;( hopefully i get back together with him for reals someday ;(
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I hope there's a date with Maddie in Chapter 6, Toby
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>filter *trans*
>filter *pronouns*
Peace has never been this serene
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>>573391829
then i am going to shove a glass bottle up your ass then
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>>573391853
There was no perfect natural order, because the snake was already present, telling the truth where your god lied. It's right there in your little bible. Your own creation myth is trash with no internal coherence
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>2 nonbinary flowers
>2 girl flowers
>3 male flowers
patriarchy
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>>573391923
Be happy anon, curate the site to your liking, T, ranny
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unironically believing in the literal truth of any religion is laughably retarded said father alvin
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>>573391203
if i knew rabid trannies were part of my fan base and i didn’t really care about them i would also make a literally who background character trans. you’re taking pity scraps as a sign this man who used to mime black hood rat dudes is a flaming advocate and its weird
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>>573391680
i think this is more of a problem with you unwilling/unable to recognize a "genuine" struggle and ranking them arbitrarily in the first place. couldnt someone just say to your point about the struggles of the poor or homeless as just an issue of laziness, or that the poor actually have it easy because theyre all welfare queens?
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>>573391885
Deltarune is made for 30 year olds who miss Board James
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>>573391907
Catti has a job and responsibilities which means she's a Square and a Sellout and therefore not eligible to be friends with Kris or Noelle
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>>573391607
>>573391838
Smooooooooch
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>>573392042
Why does Father Alvin talk like a redditor who was frozen in ice in 2011 and unthawed today
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>>573388005
Need more Deltarune butt expansion....
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>>573391684
you have enbyfever
its terminal
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>>573390915
>and that means the fountain can't reference their inner struggles in-universe
Who says it can't? Regardless of how you feel on the matter, Spamton deeply mirrors the weird route and Kris's apparent pursuit of power on it. Whether or not it's kriselleknight, someone with an intimate understanding of kris's struggles is clearly making those fountains
>To me he is the opposite of an appeal to a higher power
He does if you take "appeal to a higher power" in the Catholic sense. any truly faithful Catholic will tell you that power of prayer is not "sitting around and waiting for God to do things for you;" prayer is asking God to show you a path and giving you the courage to walk it. Gerson doesn't give Susie some magical boon that ends battles instantly, he challenges her to use her skills and wit to get a weapon that is only really as strong as she is because it has no magic properties (that we know of). He doesn't swoop in and slay the titan for us, he gives us the hope to keep fighting and the confidence for Susie to come up with an alternative solution when raw strength doesn't cut it.
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>>573391745
Does it count if the axe wound is on my head
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>>573391838
This is the best picture of a ghost cat doll tranny's ass ever
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>573391768
Go fuck yourself you're part of the problem. Leave so I can post fave in peace while you go shit up another thread.
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>>573391923
>turn on fappe tyme
>collect cool images of faves
yay!
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>>573392114
who is board james
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>>573389169
I mean, she's dating sans and married asgore

Theres hope. Her taste is poor
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>>573391853
so it just all comes back to adam and eve? damn
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>>573390914
Shine until somebody figures out that I shine as a "Yes" and communicate that way
>>573391596
I TOLD YOU they were stealing anons from us I WARNED YOU
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>>573391890
yeah but swedish is related to german so the math checks out.
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>>573392187
yes
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>>573391684
Just hide any transphobic reply that's what I do when I post Maddie.
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>>573391680
>Comes out to family
>Gets disowned
>Goes to soup kitchen
>"Your lack of food, clothing and shelter is fake, ackshually"
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>>573392231
Your save is bricked
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Berdly’s Judgement
http://poal.me/1f9lut
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>>573392267
>I TOLD YOU they were stealing anons from us
trust me they aren't
the drawthread abyss is far deeper than any schizos you have here
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>>573392114
SO MUCH THIS
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this conversation is BORING!!!
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>>573392000
it seems really arrogant to believe that Christians haven't already talked about this extensively and conclude that all of us are stupid
if you want to read an actual in-depth scholarly text on the doctrine of the fall I recommend NP Williams lectures "The Ideas of the Fall and of Original Sin."
this is a lot to tackle in /utg/
>>573392258
lots of people take the story as literal history but the point is more that God is perfectly good and self-giving, the universe is at its base a good place, love is the most powerful thing in the universe, and that the origin of evil and death and all that jazz is creatures making the free choice to turn away from what's right, stepping away from what they were supposed to be introducing deviation death and decay into things
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>>573392042
and yet you believe in gendered souls or gender in general. it’s the same thing
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>>573391230
Half measures never work out, especially given how violently the body can reject foreign elements in the body, if you aren't able to go all the way to even convince the brain, there is zero chance that the trans process will not affect you negatively.
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>>573392231
Save? Bricked.
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>>573392202
>fave
>misgenders them
?
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I thought this general was supposed to improve 2 weeks after launch, what happened?

>>573391727
If it doesnt include a double sided body pillow with each side being Maddie and Mew Mew then Toby has no soul
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>>573392379
right? wasnt there an anon just some threads ago talking about a meeting with a homeless trans person? struggles shouldnt be made into a competition, they should be unified
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>>573392345
>Just hide from your problems bro
Explains why you chose to be trans. Sad!
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If Lowtax wasn't a bad person and also dead, I think Toby would have had Jackenstein reference Doom House
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Kill all chuds and trannies
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>>573392185
Gerson didn't ask anyone to show him a path. Whatever comfort he achieved in his late years he built himself out of pure bullshit. He put his hopes on the next generations, not on some higher power. In fact he believes the youth will transgress against the higher power of the prophecy and be happier for it, because he's not a dirty Christian
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>>573392379
i mean good job on using the worst possible outcome to defend the mean but it doesnt work on me
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>>573392650
This is a video.
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>>573391631
Impressive
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>>573392458
I have a creatonist uncle and he's so fucking stupid. Its really funny to imagine Christians like you trying and failing to talk him down from believing the Bible as a historical text because to him you're just a fake Christian.
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>>573392379
>>573392591
this would be fixed with communism

if only toby added a communist character to Deltarune so autists could hyperfocus on something lifechanging
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>>573392637
>*You want to leave this wonderful house that you love so much.
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>>573392059
>"No no you don't get it this totally wholesome and sweet background character arc that's portrayed 100% positively is what someone who actually hates you and doesn't care would do!!!"
>"you don't get it Tony is actually a secret chud he actually had tranny derangement syndrome back before I even knew what a tranny was and my edaddies told me to hate them!!!"
Lol. Lmao even. Every time with you "people"
>"you're scrounging for scraps that the guy who's overwhelming supportive of LGBT and left wing causes isnt a chud"
>"He did some edgy [actually funny, non-tryhard fag] humor on Tumblr while I was still in kindergarten so I'm going to latch onto that to fuel my delusions that the woke fag himedanshi shares my politics because of he didn't that would be uncomfy"
Please tell me you're doing a bit, I can only laugh so hard
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Ok sjw question for the faggots here why is hearing NerdFags on Discord talk about Tomboys such a red flag? I was in a tabletop game and this one guy who looked like a mix of Caso and Carrottop who was WAY To Into 40k guard larp and Isreal said how everyone deserves a good tomboy and I was about to rape his mouth to death in pure insolent rage. Its like they're just objects to them Anyone know why this is besides cummer memes
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>>573391890
copeorama. you gotta move on.
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>>573392379
>>573392379
this literally doesn't happen. i live in an insufferably progressive city and have never heard of a single one of the handful of troons ive (unfortunately) met getting kicked out for being trans. i just don't believe anyone who tries to tell me this happened to them, it's pure slop story and i laugh in their faces
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Will Deltarune's final dungeon be more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2KEjK-_O0E
Or will it be more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBM285U-U3E
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Can't wait to see more of my BOY ralsei in chapter 6
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>>573392650
>enlightened centrism in 2026
give it up bro youre a grown man
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>>573392539
>type the same "waow I sure hope those shitposters leave in a few weeks! Yup, those shitposters are leaving in two weeks! In a month, the general will be better and all my friends will be back! Wow, I just can't wait for the shitposters to leave in exactly 336 hours!" post multiple days in a row
>shiteposters read them and don't leave
>you remember that a third of the threads even before the chapter's release were gender wars and shipfaggotry
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>>573392816
>* Pumpkins! You've seen these before. This is evidence.
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Appreciate those few moments where Kris is not audible. When Kris' dialogue boxes will be unlocked, there will be no shutting him up. We'll have to hear his whining and brooding 24/7.
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>>573390028
I'm nonbinary but this is ridiculous, the poster didnt even use she or he for Seth. I think they/them is correct but its not like Seth seemed to have it all figured out in that Cafe scene.. If we ever saw more of the flowers, I feel like they'd still have some thinking to do about it all. The poster respects Seth and accepts their identity in exactly the way it is depicted - something they dont have all figured out just yet - and will love and respect Seth regardless what it is, including they/them. What even is there to get mad at here? The poster was not acting offensively!
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>This screenshot is from a 2008 shitpost mod called PeePee.exe that Toby Fox helped create
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>>573392945
I am not apart of your retarded idelogies i am myself and i hate mentally ill ppl like yourself
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Did Flowery manage to teach Susie how to use VoiceClips. She needs one for Rude Buster.
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>>573392897
Because they ARE just objects to them, your reaction was justified
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>>573392923
oh yeah youve never seen it so it doesnt exist, like your brain, your heart, and your soul
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>>573392059
>uhhhh Toby is actually secretly based and all the gay shit is, uhh, just backround pandering!
How hard were you coping during the mandatory lesbian and mandatory gay scenes
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>>573392932
it's gonna be end game KH now that the fun nostalgia dark world is out of the way
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>>573392923
There are literal conversion therapy summer camps where they abuse kids for being too faggy, anon. Are you stupid?
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>>573392987
If they're like caim Drakengard im cool with that
>EMPIRE DOGS, You're bodies shall feed the ravens!
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Look it's 700 posts in this thread lasted like 20 mins so since we're on the way out, what shitposts do you want to get out of your system before the fountain closes?
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>>573392475
goomba picture
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>>573392897
the tomboy concept is inherently dumb because its trying to curate a persona a women generally has because they dont care about male attention into something for male consumption
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>>573392897
>it's like they're just objects to them

i think they just masturbate to the archetype. It's basically "fit, tanned girl with short hair"
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>>573392795
you have to believe in material reality to be marxist. that’s the core of it, class is material. e.g. a white trans woman is ultimately a white male, and the world is setup for white men. also marx would have both troons and gays lined up against a wall because he thought homos were namblacore so womp womp
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>>573393141
I can chaos post
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>>573392985
undyne shouldve said
>I am a police officer! This is my badge!
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>>573392650
that Noelle is so pretty I want her face in my face
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>>573393078
>Objectivism in 2026
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>>573392650
>>573393078
I loved your cameo in chapter 2, very cute hat.
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>>573392932
I think FF9 is the secret sauce of Deltarune, so probably Memoria
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>>573393157
>a persona a woman generally has because they dont care about male attention
bro has met 0 tomboys in his life
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>>573393085
Sadly he wasn't able to teach her because Toby can't do a teen girl voice
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about to eat some honey toast
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>>573393141
zoo rights
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I'm convinced maddiefags are not even real posters. It's some schizo making intentionally shitty and retarded posts
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>Spamton - "I fucked up my life because I'm a piece of shit."
>ERAM - "I'm the dark reflection of your lust for violence, Kris."
>Gerson - "Damn, I was never there for my kid. I gotta use this opportunity to pass on my ways to the next generation."
>Mad Mew Mew - "I feel trapped, and I just want to live as my true self."
>Jevil - "I'M DA JOKAH, BABY!"
???
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>>573393128
they send gay kids there. which minority's suffering are you frauds going to appropriate next?
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>>573393302
WHORE
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>>573393141
noelle knight is retarded
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>>573393196
Has not read Lenin award:
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>>573393196
i wish the world was so progressive that trans women got paid less than men too
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>>573392686
>Gerson didn't ask anyone to show him a path
I'm going to assume you're misunderstanding on good faith and not shit posting: Gerson is not the person praying in this allegory, he is the higher power. He is a benevolent and kind old man who seeks to guide the party without outright telling them what to do. He cant and does not want to make anyone do anything, he just wants to give them the grace and knowledge to make the correct decisions for themselves.
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>>573393331
THAT'S WHY HE'S THE BEST
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>>573392923
9 times out of 10 they were thrown out for some other reason, usually relating to them either doing drugs or not getting a job, and just use the "i was thrown out for being trans :(" excuse as a way to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing

most of the time if someone's insisting that the entire world is out to get them specifically, it's because they're a lazy scumbag

>t. worked with the homeless and ex-cons
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>>573393326
So the average/utg/ poster
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>>573393141
this awakened something in me
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>>573392897
Dudes on 4chan claiming to want tomboys is the goofiest shit!
>"Yeah I want a gf who is into sports and video games and other boy things!"
Every time you encounter such a woman you call them performative or say they're a tranny. Its just a fetish thing and a dumb one at that.
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>>573393346
Oh, sorry, thought you were capable of stringing two thoughts together. My bad, anon
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>>573392782
religious change happens on the scale of centuries
the traditionalists are refusing to change and scared of learning and therefore becoming dumber and dumber as time goes on
the progressives actually trying to reason their way through the new challenge presented by the modern world have not yet come to any kind of meaningful agreement, all these questions are still open, so things are really up in the air at present among us
it's going to take a good long while for things to settle
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>>573393243
When the gang defeats the Knight by sealing them away forever
>Now you're inside of my shelter, and out of my mind.
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>>573393346
>we heard your son is a fag so were here to take him to andrew tate camp
>oh no xirs just a tranny
>ah, my mistake madam *tips goon cap*
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>>573393450
what procedure is this
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>>573393547
nasal endoscopy
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before the thread ends i want to say i love and accept all the trans posters even if some of you are retarded :)
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>>573393331
My hopium for chapter 6 is that Seam will give us at least two new lines of text about Jevil
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yeah that anon who mentioned that male autists are way more obsessed with femininity than the other way around wasn't kidding, you people are fucking crazy
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>>573393505
its revealed that the roaring knight isnt dess, rudy or carol, but a terrorist
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>>573393395
Gerson is not a higher power, though, and not presented as that in any way. He doesn't even dispense wisdom for Kris directly, choosing to focus on Susie almost entirely. Probably because Kris already knows what they're doing, we just don't know what it is. You are projecting hard
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the only true deltarune fans are the ones posting pink's fat ass
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>>573393331
Jevil is the part of Kris that just wants to play and have fun and do epic pranks (i.e. Aqua) who was then given eldritch knowledge and became the Joker
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i hate bpds
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>>573393595
...hot? i dont know.
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>>573393450
Oh god, I think it just awakened something in me too
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JESTER IS BESTER
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>>573393452
>>573393171
I literally knew this exact archetype of 'girl' they're obsessed with and if they [the tomboy] ever met these people they would get the ick at best and pullout pepper spray if they even heard a fraction of the dialogue thats pointed they're way. Jesus christ no wonder they're all transitioning now
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>Finally try 4chanx
>Put in "trans" and "pronouns"
>Half the thread instantly vanishes
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>>573393450
source?
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>>573393679
>playing the bpd game and hating bpds
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>>573393679
Everybody does
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>>573393452
>Every time you encounter such a woman you call them performative or say they're a tranny
i mean if you encounter a 'woman' online that claims to be like that, especially on a site like this, statistically they're far more likely to be trans than cis
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>>573393331
>Jevil is the player
>Spamton is Kris
>John Mantle is the game
>Gerson is the game developer
>Pink is 50% player, 50% Kris
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>>573393141
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>>573393475
Well in theory they should all just listen to the progressive popes as they come into power but a good chunk of Christians are retards who go "erm actually the pope is woke so I dont want to listen to what he says about the poor and downtrodden". A lot of Christians are either just in it because they were born into it and dont care about practicing it, or joined it for aesthetic larping reasons (like JD Vance).
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if pink is a lightner shes not getting any fucking merch you do realise this
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>>573393440
definitely. notice how the exceptionally few troons who can function just fucking do it. nobody gives a shit that they exist. the only oppressors trannies have are their own damn selves
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The problem with religion is the infrastructure. Pretty much every faith possesses a core set of perfectly reasonable core values that boil down to "Be kind to others.", "Chill the fuck out and don't start shit.", etc. But it's always the surrounding rituals and supplementary concepts that invariably corrupt the whole thing into a brainwashing mechanism.
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>>573393841
dude it pissed me off so bad when vance spun ordo amoris as a nationalist thing, said spamton
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>>573393726
>filter "faggot"
>all your posts disappear
WOW!
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>>573393752
https://x.com/xobloodletter/status/2074639983424471501
the artist even specified that's an anon in the picture..... imagine they're here........
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>573393841
Literally who is this schizo retard and which one of you let him in
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>post Jevil
>thread is immediately improved 10x
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>>573393718
they are basically living in separate worlds and will never cross paths
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>>573393141
More people should notice that the one shote gote pedophile is behind a significant portion of the intentional daily threadshitting.
It was common knowledge before but it seems to have been forgotten considering how bad the threads are when they are around and people wonder why it's so consistently bad at a certain time.
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>>573393331
>Jevil
Represents Kris's violent childhood and the "it's just a game" mentality of having the save/load powers
>Spamton
Represents the weird route and its consequences
>Mantle/ERAM
Represents kris's repressed memories and violent urges. Literally addressing and overcoming these uncomfortable feelings gives Kris the power to challenge the Knight, their accomplice, on more even footing
>Gerson
Represents the guidance of a higher power against seemingly insurmountable odds
>Pink
Represents our current situation with kris and it's practically stated outright. Theorysissies will have to confront that our precious assumptions about the shadow crystal arc were wrong eventually
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>>573393726
Be free! Live the best life you can!!!
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>>573393679
Almost every Undertale/Deltarune character has BPD

>>573393763
Ralsei also has BPD
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>>573393929
Sorry anon, I just like to remain on-topic is all. I understand it's not for everyone.
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/his/ and /lit/ are the shittiest boards on the entire site btw
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>>573392923
agreed. i live in a southern shithole but trannies flock to my city because its a blue dot and they’re all normally either rich kids who “ran” from home (mommy and daddy are still paying their rent) or black and brown gay dudes who also whore themselves. and its so fucking funny that the first group melts down if you “misgender” them whereas the second can take it on the chin if not outright get they’re not literally, biologically women
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>>573393663
And Hometown was built on a terrorist burial camp
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>>573393760
Bpds also hate bpds anon, their entire existence consists of being hated
Doesn't mean they don't also deserve love, they're just extremely fucking hateable.
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>>573394016
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daerb
>>573383012
>>573383012
>>573383012
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>>573393910
>larp as a super hardcore HOI4-tier christian who says shit like "erm acktually the bible supports our wars!"
>put a presbyterian church on the cover of your book about how you became a christian just a few years ago
Hope that dude's dick explodes like Queen's car.
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>>573394042
which state? i think i know exactly where you're talking about
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Hot take: Jevil is a way better character than the Joker. Lil' bro is just vibing and minding his own business pondering the implications of reality.
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>>573393986
it has not gone unnoticed
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>>573393814
My contrarian take is that Spamton isn't Kris but instead is Dess
He leads Kris to a suspiciously Shelter-like basement promising that they'll both become free and Big Shots only to freak out and turn on Kris when it becomes clear he has to use their SOUL to get what he wants and I've got 10 bucks riding on whatever went down at the Shelter with Dess being something like that
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>>573394045
WHY DID YOU THROW THIS MEW MEW FIGURINE AT ME, YOu rubberneck...? oooOOOoooOOoo
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>>573393331
>"I fucked up my life because I'm a piece of shit."
That is NOT what happened, you clown-posting bitch. God fucked up Spamton's life because God HATES him.
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the core of religion is an uncritical, unwavering belief in something that is not at all proven to be true
when such a thing is accepted, it opens the door to belief in other things that are not true and can ultimately lead to denial of reality as a whole
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>>573393665
>Gerson is not a higher power, though, and not presented as that in any way
Yes he is not an actual divine being he doesn't have to be because that's not how allegory works! He's a wise old man who freely dispenses aid to those in need and does so through guile and indirect means.
>He doesn't even dispense wisdom for Kris directly
He actually does on a few occasions even if his overall focus is on Susie and he has a little more focus on Kris if you're on the weird route. Either way, again not how allegory works, the metaphor doesn't have to be directly between Kris and the higher power substitute.
>Probably because Kris already knows what they're doing, we just don't know what it is
Yes. My point is that the first 4 bosses, including Gerson, represent a phase of kris's past experiences not what they're literally doing on screen in moment
>You are projecting hard
Okay you're either retard who's trolling or a retard who doesn't know what words mean or both
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>>573394262
georgia. i love atlanta but sometimes you meet truly insufferable people
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>>573394315
Your samefagging hasn't gone unnoticed either
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>>573393986
i reference it occasionally but i don't like to do it too often because he gets off on it. he's easily the worst poster in the thread.
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>>573394448
Sure, but he's not wise in a 'higher power' kind of way. You are just kind of bad at this whole thing. You want Gerson to represent different things than he's capable of representing.
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>>573394542
You're not very good at this are you?
So obvious. How predictable.
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>>573392650
Noelle is gorgeous….
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>>573394394
I don't think my beliefs are unreasonable, I think very many excellent arguments can be made in favor of them, but yeah ultimately I do just have an unwavering belief that the world is a good place, that love is the most real thing in the universe
I don't see why we should try atheism and materialism as a human default
that whole way of looking at the world has never clicked for me
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>>573394632
>>573394651
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>>573392650
i met this queen cosplayer last year, she's hilariously in character in person
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>>573392402
this took far too long
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>>573393874
you get it
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>>573394690
If very many excellent arguments can be made, why haven't they been made? And if the world is a good place and love is the most real thing in the universe why do you believe in sin and a fallen world like a brainwashed fucking retard. Get your shit together
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>>573394961
they've been made since ancient times, and I would refer you to that book I mentioned earlier for discussion of the origin of sin and suffering. I don't know why you're being so hostile. I think if we sat down and talked politics or culture or whatever we probably wouldn't disagree very much, unless you believe in violence or something like that
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>>573395175
They have not been made, you just have faith that they have because you gave away your ability to tell right from wrong. Your entire worldview is self-contradictory garbage that can't stand the slightest bit of scrutiny, so you hide behind vague bullshit and refuse to look at it directly
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>>573393440
i keep quoting you, but you really do get it. i wanted to respond to the anon who was like
>b-but what if people dismiss homeless struggles by saying they’re just lazy!!
that they’d be right, in many cases. of course you meet people in wheelchairs or vets literally missing their arms, or the genuinely mentally ill, but you also meet a ton of guys who you can just tell would rather leech off the state or beg for change instead of putting in 8 hours somewhere.
on some level i can’t blame them (i do believe ubi would be nice) but another they piss me off
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>>573393832
Lmfao
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>>573395397
God's existence is the natural logical consequence of metaphysical realism which must be true if our language has any meaningful relation to reality and is capable of yielding truth. On the assumption of nominalism all language collapses into a pragmatic game and the quest for truth itself is abandoned. If truth, God. If you operate on the assumption there is no truth, you have already implicitly ceded the argument from my point of view. There, are you happy? If you have specific questions you can ask them but I'm not just going to keep being insulted
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Undertale/Deltarune???
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>>573395736
>>573394147
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>>573394690
unshakable beliefs in right/wrong and what does and doesn't hold value is fine, any belief in such is just as arbitrary as any other
it's when you believe that certain things or entities actually exist and cannot even in principle be convinced otherwise where things get dangerous
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SO
with all this time now, we had plenty of time to digest the chapter.

what is the hottest schizotheory now?
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>>573395687
Lmao you think that's a good argument? Not only is it an argument for an impersonal deity that doesn't match your religion whatsoever, it's not even good for that either because we already know language is not magical. Its relationship with truth is the relationship of a map to a territory: Faulty. Approximate, but only slightly. Are you not even bilingual?
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>>573395920
Go to the new thread. And probably that Ralsei is a tree.
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>>573396203
>impersonal deity
The personality of God in classical theism is not conceived to be the same as the personality of finite creatures. This is not the issue you think it is. God can be described as transpersonal, containing the fullness of being which transcends and fulfills the perfections realized in finite personal existence.
>language is not magical it only approximates reality
True, but the point is that on the nominalist model there is not a reality to be approximated while on the realist model there is. There really is a humanity, an animality, etc., even if our language does not capture their essence perfectly. Our language participates poetically in objective facts of being without capturing them totally. Language bears meaningful relation to reality without collapsing reality into itself
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>>573396350
a real faggo-tree
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>>573396556
The personality of the god of your dumbass Christian religion is schizophrenic like your ability to stick to one idea. The fact that your beliefs fucking morph in response to criticism from me is already a deathblow to your worldview built on nothing.
Reality doesn't imply a god. Using a bunch of word salad to say "I think reality itself means there's a god" is fucking pathetic, sad shit
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>>573397542
I'm not changing my ideas to suit this argument. When I talk about metaphysical realism, I'm talking about realism about universals specifically, which is a very ancient position which you should investigate. The position I stated about the personality of God is literally just the traditional position unaltered. Look up classical theism. What you are criticizing, legitimately, is a made-up modern alternative made by Anglo-American philosophers called theistic personalism, which again you are correct to see as silly.

Listen, fren. I genuinely don't bear you any ill will whatsoever. I imagine if you feel this strongly about Christianity you probably had a bad experience with some asshole or group of assholes in the past, and I'm not going to tell you your experience is invalid. There are a lot of really awful Christians. But genuinely many if not most of us are just reasonable people who have different reasonable convictions from you. And in our case specifically given where we are I feel like we don't even have that many practical disagreements.
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>>573398028
You are, you are just trained to not notice when you do. It's real sad, bitchboy Christian turns Deist when confronted.
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>>573398738
I'm not a deist. For reasons that are too complicated to get into here I believe that the very nature of God necessitates the activity of God, the effulgence or overflowing of being itself. I think you have been exposed to really shoddy evangelical theology or something like that in the past and convinced yourself this is what Christians everywhere believe and always have believed, but this isn't the case, and you can tell because, I mean, think about it. These people don't read old books. They think everything published before 1800 is evil pagano-papist manipulation by the antichrist. They have absolutely no idea what they're talking about they have committed themselves to ignorance
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hey there guys ! haven't been here since chapter 2, i wanted to know if there was any good flowery/asgore porn ? can't seem too find a lot on twitter somehow. thanks !
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>>573393107
tranny shit =/= homosexuals
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>>573394790
fucking kino



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