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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9468 - 1992 Manga Amy Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>573406165
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the real losers are eliasfags
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Get Sonurgepilled
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Douge
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>Its not really the mandates, its just the writers being incredibly petty and incompetent. The same things people give Penders shit for Ian and Evan are doing that tenfold.
At least Penders was all those things in an interesting way. I mean, inserting an oc just to fuck Sally? He's just like me fr.
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https://www.yourworldoftext.com/SonicSTHGStory
Continue the stories!
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>>573434535
Bold text just makes it easier to read you idiot
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>>573434742
Penders, as he tells it, was that way because he had to be since Sega wouldn't give him info from the earliest days of... well, basically everything. Ian and Evan don't have that excuse. They should know better, with or without Sega's direct input.
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>>573434685
Silver has a lighthearted side but Evan exaggerates it to the point where it turns Silver into a male Amy but Sonic Team doesn't care because it's not Shadow. Sonic Team is literally approving out of character slop just because Shadow is not the one being affected by it
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>>573434742
>sally was trying for a boy so they could name one kid elias
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>That's because Takashi Iizuka is extremely biased towards Shadow. He lets all the other characters get portrayed badly in IDW but is always there to make sure his precious pet character Shadow is written right. I'm sick of it
Didn't Shadow literally get raped by a bunch of zombots and spend the entire comic looking like an idiot? Takeashi isn't doing a very good job.
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Tails!
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>>573434935
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>>573434925
You guys get mad at anyone here who complains about ooc, I don't want to hear it
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>>573434925
Silver takes all the lighthearted aspects out of his mother
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>>573434863
Literally the spacing already does that. She might as well type in all caps, SHUT UP IT'S CANON.
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Dow
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>>573434742
>>573434894
I can give Penders the benefit of the doubt that he would have at least tried to stay on brand if Sega actually gave the details since he was just going to write scifi action bullshit either way and was specifically not interested in sonic teen romance
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>>573435201
Amy will be long dead
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>>573434935
That's an isolated incident. In fact, I believe that Sonic Team supervises the art more than the actual dialogue
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>>573435273
Penders understands Sonic.
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>>573435335
Not if she drinks Shadow's blood. It gives her youth back
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"fuck off and let me write my Uwuver please he's my comfort character"
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>>573435430
The reason why Shadow says "cowards run" is because Shadow never backs down. They definitely checked the dialogue
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>Archie keeps telling me to write more romance stories
>This Sally girl's entire dynamic with Sonic is cramping his style
>kill her off
>The editor says I can't do that so I have to bring her back
>Make her fuck 15 different guys out of spite
>write whole draft where she fucks off with Shadow and becomes a villain
>anything, ANYTHING but a healthy, happy relationship with Sonic
>20 years later every JP purist and their mother is claiming turned Sonic into a romantic teen drama because I don't understand the character
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>>573434746
You joke, but we've recently had reason to suspect that Penders was here recently. We attract comics-people on edge, it seems.
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>>573435546
Must suck being an Aurakek, the solution is easy, stop reading IDW if you don't like it, but I think I'm talking to people with Stockholm syndrome? Sucks to suck I guess
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>>573435780
What reason
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wait what if the fangame is called lara su chronicles and that's why he won't post it
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Evan could at least post "before and after" drawings of the comics' art before it was revised by Sonic Team and after it was revised. That way, we would know if Sonic Team told her to make Silver look more scared, frightened, and cutesy but she has never done that and I find that suspicious
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>>573435848
I would vote for Shadow as my fuhrer
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When is the silvaze issue coming out?
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>>573435780
I skip over a lot of the Archie talk. Why do we think Penders was here?
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>>573435905
The Shadow files pays special attention to Hope Kintobor's origin and Shadow marrying Sally. It even gives two entirely different versions of a scenario where they get together for different reasons.
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>>573434935
The original pitch for that story with Shadow was worse, that was after ST tard wrangled IDW into making it less shit
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>>573435791
You're talking to culture war-obsessed faglords who don't know how to regulate their own emotions and log off when they get mad
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>>573435981
September
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>>573436045
But weren't those scrapped ideas from back then? This is just Scribbles being Scribbles
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>>573435430
>In fact, I believe that Sonic Team supervises the art more than the actual dialogue
The fact that they keep having to do so many revisions between prints has me doubting that. That would be the easiest thing to check without knowing the language it was written in. I know they do SOME, but clearly they're getting directions after the fact to fix things that already went to print.
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This is kind of a me issue but I hate how modern media across the board shows Sonic as too dependent on his friends and constantly around them. Like this franchise had "Long Time No See" as a catchphrase for a good chunk of time, but now those four fuckers always together.
I'm not saying I want only Sonic in games or stories or what have you, but I also don't want every peace of media to start with some bullshit like "Sonic and his friends are having a picnic when suddenly da ewil doctor eggman attacks"
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Why do artists?
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>>573436064
I guess that's a better description yes
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>>573436287
you tell me artist
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>>573434745
What the FUCK is the Waiter's problem?
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>>573436287
The piercing ruins what would otherwise be a cool artstyle
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>>573436334
Idk
He's hot on-model
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I keep thinking about what Sonic and the Black Knight would be like if it was written by IDW, and how Sonic would spend 5 minutes trying to convince Arthur both times they meet to give up his evil ways, instead of just committing regicide because he saw an Evil king do evil king shit.
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>>573436287
same artist btw
https://files.catbox.moe/t967zy.jpeg
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>>573436518
That's a nice art
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I'm tired of this shitdow spam.
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1000% better than Tailsspam
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>>573436247
My explanation for why the characters are written out of character (most notably Silver) even after repeated revisions from Sonic Team is that Sonic Team doesn't give the writers specific-enough notes on how to write the characters. I imagine that Sonic Team tells Evan that Silver has a light-hearted side but they don't tell her that he has a blunt and confrontational side and this would explain why Silver is devoid of his blunt, confrontational, and cool side in the IDW comics when he's written by Evan
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>>573436681
So spam something else
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>>573436097
If he predicts one more thing I'm ending sthg myself
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>>573436045
>>573436097
I am not surprised at the idea of Scribble already knowing an extremely obscure detail years before it's actually relevant and then using it for a joke. Like Saleta being tied to the Black Arms because Aleta Ogord is essentially just Shadow as a human woman. Penders never keeps his mouth shut, it's likely he brought all this up before. It's been 20 years.
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Tailskino is 1000000000000000000% the bestest of everything to be ever posted in this general
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>>573436036
One person flipped out at the schizos who were supporting the Shadow/Hope pairing, then soon after, Penders happens to release the manuscript validating the idea that shipping Hope is bad for Shadow.
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>>573436739
>TailSSpam
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>>573437029
She's literally his enemies in the Archie future timeline anyways.
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Someone who understands the characters will predict things about them early.
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>>573437124
So you don't care about Shadow got it.
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>>573437174
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>>573435546
>All IDW content is checked at multiple levels of SEGA of America and SEGA of Japan, including by Iizuka-san. Their notes can be very specific and are always applied.
I frankly don't believe these motherfuckers anymore because I nowadays get the impression they just say whatever to shut everyone up. I notice how these factors never come into the equation when something is praised.
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>>573436758 (me)
Take a look at how similar current IDW Silver is to the Silver from the GOTF fanfic by Evan. The Silver on the right side of picrel is the true Silver while the one on the left side is an out of character adulteration. The only logical explanation for why IDW Silver is so out of character is that Sonic Team doesn't bother to give the writers notes that specify his cool and brash side
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Randomfox's endgame for Sally from when he was hatereading Archie also turned out to be accurate to the timeline where Elias dies
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>>573437592
>I notice how these factors never come into the equation when something is praised.
Of course. Of course! These are the WORST people who could EVER be touching this franchise, who are living in the BEST TIME for ATTENTION WHORES on the INTERNET!
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>>573437847
randomfox understands Sally
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>>573435916
You won't be shown them because they don't exist.
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So Evan is riding on the "Sonic Team allows it" excuse.
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>>573437847
Objectively more interesting character then what we got, glad Archie characters are dead.
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>>573438131
Everyone from the west that works on this series, does. It's the go-to defense.
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>>573435780
>>573436045
I doubt it since Penders planned to do all that decades ago and the comic itself shows he was shifting it in that direction.
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Sonic likes his women raunchy and his sex fast
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>>573438131
Sonic Team allowed Sonic Boom to happen, like it wasn't just SoA going behind everybody's back till it was too late, that hack Iizuka had to greenlight ALOT of shit. I'm just saying they make stupid decisions
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>>573438424
Iizuka doesn't like Boom. SoA had more power than SoJ in the 2010s.
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Shocking: Windfag reading of Sally's character is accurate to the windfag's worst enemy, Ken Penders
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Autistic Silverfags pestering Evan about mischaracterization will inevitably make things worst. She isn't going to start writing to appeal to those people.
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>>573438424
Never trust what Iizuka says when it comes to these off-brands because he used to shill Boom until it died and later confessed he didn't like it. You'll probably hear the same about IDW one day.
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>>573437847
JP purists really be like "I hate this comic so much that I understand the inner wavelength of the writers mind"
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>>573438656
She was never going to. She was faking being humble like Ian. She doesn't like canon Silver, only the fanon one in her head.
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>>573437847
None of this matches up with what Penders said he wanted to do. It doesn't even match what he intended for Sonic.
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>>573439037
They both made her an evil brat
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>>573438131
But only when it comes to criticism. When they get glazed for a story or characterization, it's all their idea.
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>>573438668
>You'll probably hear the same about IDW one day.
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>>573438131
Randomfox was right. The IDW scum writers plan on "fixing" the characters to get around the.canon personalities for what they "should be"
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I remember at that one Sonic conversation when Iizuka did a completely blatant telegraphed line about how great Tangle and Whisper are and they weren't even in the comic long. SoA definitely made him say that to market the comic.
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>>573439096
Amazing how even in your attempt to reduce both alternate versions of the characters to about as simple an idea as possible for comparison you still fail to actually make them similar. Pender's evil Sally in the future wasn't an "evil brat" but a ruthless autocrat traumatized by the murder of her brother. He basically made her a pseudo-Shadow 2.0 but swapped out the sci-fi and biblical themes of Shadow for political and ideological ones. Hate Sally all you want, but don't pretend whatever Randomfox was saying actually aligns in any meaningful way with what Penders had planned.
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>>573439439
They'll call it character development even though they'll have it be that the characters always acted this different way.
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>>573439096
Wanting revenge against a tyrant who killed your good-natures brother isn't "evil".
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>>573434925
I wish Silver was Male Amy, modern Amy gets respect even if she’s inhumanely bland. Evan and the characters written by her treat Silver like a retarded toddler.
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>Elias... I promise you REVENGE
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>>573436338
Kill that bastard waiter.
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>Member of the Robotnik family gets murdered by GUN, this makes Shadow want revenge against humanity.
>But then decades later a member of the Robotnik kills someone else's family, creating another cycle of revenge.
Pottery?
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>>573440116
This is just Naruto
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>>573439482
The real point she is Sonic's enemy, that's why people were equating the two ideas.
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>>573440167
Kensashi Penshinmoto.
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Quick Question, can Kit take off the Hydro Pack? I don't think I've seen him with it off his back, and when Tails defeated him, he was worried that turning it off also turned him off.
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Refute this
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>>573441204
i notice that she does not cite any sources from the games
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>>573441346
Sega doesn't mandate it even though they are strict
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>>573441204
>it's a canon aspect of the character (that I added)
Say, didn't she JUST admit as such not long ago? That she compromised on Silver based on when when he's in serious-mode (game/JP) or peaceful mode (her uuwuu), which is a distinction only IDW makes?
What stupid weasel-wording bitch. Someone find that quote please, I know she suggestedit was due to her own failure to write Silver adequately.
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I get secondhand embarrassment reading Evan's defense of her Silver writing
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How would I add African American hairstyles that aren't dreads or cornrows to Sonic characters? Genuine question. If it's not possible I'm fine with trying to find a straight-hair analogue to the haircuts.
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>>573438126
Because of this, I suspect that Sonic Team isn't telling Evan to write Silver as serious and brash and that Sonic Team is just carelessly approving of whoever she writes Silver even if it's out of character
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>>573436338
MINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
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Crying again. Is there some sort of quota?
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I am struggling to read Evan's post because we already know Sega doesn't care about Silver which is why she's allowed to mischaracterize him and she's using Sega as a defense
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>>573435604
"Cowards run, I win" sounded so lame like a little kid trying to sound cool and tough. It doesn't sound like something Shadow would canonically say
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>>573442052
IDW treats the old english dubs as canon so the characters still say weird shit like "Teriaaa"
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>>573438357
The things in the Shadow files are kind of obvious if you look at the comics set before Ian's take on 25YL which this story would have replaced.
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>>573440173
Randomfox didn't have her be an "enemy", just a spoiled and out-of-touch bitch who Sonic butts heads with in doing his own thing. She'd be "Sonic's enemy" about as much as she was in SatAM and a good deal of Preboot Archie, which is to say basically not at all. The difference is Randomfox's Sally would be totally unpleasant, unlikable, and unsympathetic, the last being in contrast to Pender's Sally who would be sympathetic through Elias' death.
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RIGNIC THE HEDGETINI
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>>573442037
This is what I've been saying. Also, another good example of how Sonic Team doesn't care about the other characters is Amy in the English version of Frontiers and Sonic x Shadow Generations.
In the English version of Frontiers, Amy's love for Sonic is completely erased. Her dialogue with Sonic doesn't even feel implicitly romantic. She tells Sonic "Sonic, you still have love to share with with the world too" in a cutscene near the ending but in the Japanese version, she tells him "You haven't seen me as a lovely lady yet". In the English version of Sonic x Shadow Generations, she still mentions something about marriage to Sonic in one of her dialogue boxes. In Frontiers, her love was erased but in Sonic x Shadow Generations, her love was present. This tells me that Sonic Team doesn't care whether Amy's love is present or not. They'll just approve of whichever way Ian writes her. Sonic Team doesn't care about her
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You now remember that awkward time when we had a literal 40+ yo texan on here and Twitter arguing with teenagers about the sexuality of Amy and Rouge.
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>>573440358
There's just something so cool and creepy about seeing Shadow's red eyes glowing the dark. I love it
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>>573442192
I think that's just Ian being Ian.
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>>573441821
Nobody? Okie doke
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>>573442192
>the characters still say weird shit like "Teriaaa"
This was mandated by Sonic Team. SoA's voice actors and voice directors didn't want to do it, but they had Naka and others insisting and getting angry if they didn't do it. I like it.
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>>573443081
you say "that awkward time" as if there was only once occurrence
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>>573441821
>>573443379
I don't think it's possible to do hairstyles that are straight. Sonic characters look weird like that. You can use an afro though
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>>573443453
I think it's great in SA2 but I think it needs to be left there.
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>>573442637
Penders's Sally seems very simple
>Elias is dead
>Robotnik is still alive after years of fighting
>I am going to burn it all down
>What do you mean Sonic is getting in the way
>I understand Shadow now
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>>573438131
Think of Evan's "Sonic Team's notes allow it" excuse as how qualified immunity for police officers would work in real life. Since Sonic Team's notes don't specify that Silver needs to be assertive and blunt, Evan is able to get away with making him UWU. In real life, qualified immunity would allow you as a place officer to get away with doing immoral things since it wasn't specified in the law that it was illegal or that you were commanded to do otherwise
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Post characters with literally zero fans
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>>573444246
Surely this motherfucker has at least one. He's the only thing from the Boom games that made it into the show.
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>>573443718
Sonic always has to play the dumb faggot in the comics. At least Batman has brain problems. Sonic is just straight up stupid.
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I am still forcing myself to read Evan's Silver post. It hurts so much bros. How can someone be this defensive over their uwu babby crap
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>>573441821
African american style hairstyles? All I can think are braids, afros and flat tops and curly hair (unless you wanna get hilariously racist and give sonic characters weaves). So for example, lanolin with an afro, or a gorilla with a flat top.
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>>573444767
Saying it here won't change anything, try being vocal on tumblr/twitter/bluesky
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>>573441821
Why would you? Even Knuckles "hair" isn't literal dreadlocks.
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>>573444767
>How can someone be this defensive over their uwu babby crap
Because she plans to do it again? Didn't read that crap, but if someone is so defensive about something is because they think they are in the right to do it and plan to continue doing it.

>>573444803
>empty lifeless eyes
Can't really see Shadow being like that, I would think he would me more like this, pic related.
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Shadow filling Sally’s womb with 3 children
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>>573445043
Yeah. Can't bother criticizing all OOC fanart, I'd go insane.
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Can you guys find something else to repeat ad infinitum and shitpost about. I dont care about shipping or comic stuff so this is just boring.
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Shadoe
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>>573445210
Tails! :D
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Shadow’s huge veiny dick on Sally’s thick ass
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>>573445341
I like Tails!
If you had to choose between the two, would you rather they focus more on his ability to fly with his Tails or focus in on his technical and mechanical Proweress and give mechs, planes and gadgets?
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The same fucking posters and the same fucking drama, over and over and over and over and over...
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>>573445685
This asylum is run by the mad men. Either stay, or leave
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>>573445685
All me
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>>573445685
Oh goodie that means you want to discuss THIS instead:
https://sonicskyline.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_Skyline
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If you're gonna complain about it why are you still here? You don't actually enjoy this place or the autists.
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>>573434620
But what if she was wearing less?!
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>>573445949
I'm gonna complain because this place is already full of idiots complaining over bullshit, so anothe idiot complaining over its quality can do nothing but good.
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Frontiers Defintive edition is basically a mess of people at the top making calls
>called definitive edition mainly so it doesn’t get lumped into the review scores for the main game bringing it down
>not a Switch 2 edition since Nintendo doesn’t allow Switch 2 editions to be key cards
>mainly exists because Segas investors are freaking out that they are skipping Nintendo while theyre the market leader
>Sega themselves is desperate to get something on shelves for Sonic’s anniversary
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>>573446084
What do you WANT
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>>573446084
>this place is already full of idiots complaining over bullshit
Yeah, I agree with that. And I agree that you are an idiot.
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Re use the fleetway design and introduce it as amy’s cousin Rosey rascal who falls in love with shadow and starts chasing him around
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>>573446184
That's stupid. You're stupid. That design is great though.
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>>573445595
Nta but the latter. Adventure 2, Battle, Prime, and more show how much you can do with that IF you get creative. But don't just stick him behind a desk or shove a tablet in his hands 24/7, let him actually do stuff.
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Why do you come to sthg
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>>573446483
Bump has a gun(and boobs) to my head.
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>>573446483
To post trip
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>>573446483
so i can talk about sonic stuff when i feel like without having to make an account or be banned for slurs
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>>573446184
Iphone user ... leave the idea making to the people who have a semblance of artistry in them...
https://sonicskyline.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_Skyline

Turning outlandish ideas into something great is an art.
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>>573445595
flying but give him his arm cannon so literally >>573445595 's picture
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>>573446762
Ew this looks like the “dear seega” video with the frail and vulnerable stickman sonic
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Stop running your ad bot. Buy an ad.
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>>573446483
Good question. I like seeing different opinions, I guess. Also, seeing how different the fanbases are is quite entertaining.
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>>573446483
I thought you people were only pretending to be retarded. and not actual contrarian bitches without any IQ in you >>573446871 imagine being a girl and having 4/10 in school, what is wrong with you? all girls I knew in class had 9/10 averages.
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>>573446921
Shut the fuck up, pajeetbot.
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>>573446483
I really like Tails, Bump and Sage. That's it really.
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>>573447013
What the fuck are you crying about
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>>573446483
came here for fake leaks
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>>573445262
Evan is the perfect embodiment of picrel
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>>573447013
Look everyone the schizo is making word salad.
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>>573446483
To remind myself that these newgens are spoiled as fuck.
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>>573446762
Ugh, this is blatantly made by some archiefag who doesn't give a shit about the games. Why is Bearinger brown? They just copied that from reboot shitty archie comics.
>retarded cape slapped onto sonic.
I'm surprised they didn't give Tails blue shoes to go with the shitty goggles
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>>573446762
>Sonic as a stuttering insecure loser
into the trash
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>>573447454
Uwu Sonic
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>>573446762
>sonci design is just bad
>silver is not even silver
>vector looks like some shounen protag
>Rouge looks like a grandma and doesn't even have tits
>Vanilla has the hentai protag haircut
And I just gave it a first look, wasn't even searching for things to complain about, but it just soo bad...
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You could just not read it and ignore what you don't like.
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You wanted attention, and you got it. You only have yourself to blame, faggot.
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>>573447846
You know they can't do that.
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Why is it so hard to just stick to the games for characterization?
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>>573447842
>>573447454
>>573447320
Wow /sthg/ really is trash at criticism. I can't believe some animator veterans thought this place gives good criticism.

And let's take a look at your faces and jobs and oh wow ... these are people judging others? Haha oh wow. I hope nobody falls for your bullshit, Reddit/sthg/.
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>>573448347
I don't like when people try to change Sonic's personality
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>>573446762
>Freedom Fighters
Instant drop.
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>>573447320
>Ugh, this is blatantly made by some archiefag who doesn't give a shit about the games. Why is Bearinger brown? They just copied that from reboot shitty archie comics.
Shut the fuck up, Violet.
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>>573448531
If you're going to use characters from the Sonic games you shouldn't use the versions of them from the comics. Then you're making a fanfic of the comics instead of Sonic.
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>>573448347
>get a character
>turn it into something completely different
>people don't like it
>gets butthurt

Man, if you want to make something completely unrelated to the source, just make your own original thing. Is it that hard? It's also not the first time I've seen this, it's funny how you fags have such a fragile ego that can't take any sincere criticism. If you just want some safe hugspace, just don't come to 4chan of all places.
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Sonic Skyline is a VIBE idea and what I mean by that is the entire concept is carried by a few pretty pictures. It doesn't have substance and its concept beyond pretty pictures is boring.
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https://www.deviantart.com/tale-dude/gallery/56875445/fanmade-sonic-skyline-comic

Go ahead :^) go tell him what you think of his idea and his miniature comic. He's right there, what are you waiting for?
Yes it comes with a mini comic explaining THE LORE. Or at the very least the part where Eggman adopts Sonic and Sonic is an orphan.
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>This fanfic looks and reads like a fanfic.
Do you realize how retarded you sound,
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>>573447842
This is unironically something you'd probably see as an alternate dimension in the Archie multiverse. In other words, a game fan wouldn't make this.
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>>573448990
So it's crap we shouldn't care about.
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>he got standards
Are you retarded?

retard retard retard

I'm so smart because i call everyone a retard.
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Did everyone finish reading it? What did you think?
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>>573449279
you forgot to say that everyone hates sonic
FAIL
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Came across this image
Did Sonic really try to rape a female echidna?
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>>573448716
>get a character
>turn it into something completely different
>people don't like it
>gets butthurt
>Man, if you want to make something completely unrelated to the source, just make your own original thing.
Uhhhhhh.... Sonic Boom anyone? Sonic the Movie? Sonic as a Knight?

He's a fucking mascot character.
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>>573449743
No, that's Knuckles. That is literally Knuckles in a wig. They are doing a play and Sonic is kissing him as a joke
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Shadow fucked Sally
Sonic fucked Surge
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Faggot think storybook games are derivatives...
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You guys are mean
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>>573450420
Good lord
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>>573450787
And ugly on the outside and inside. were we talking to the failure bullies from elementary+high school all along? Was Chad being an asshole a lie all along and it was actually the obese ugly "geek" with failing grades that was the bully all along?
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It's just some cute little headcanons by some lady who loves Sonic
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>>573446184
What if she wore less?!
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So that new Classic IDW Sonic comic using Metal Sonic despite how he's supposed to be stranded in Little Planet...Well, it's an elseworld story as far as I'm concerned. First Frontier's doesn't have a proper placement in the IDW timeline, now they ignore Metal Sonic being disabled.

They (SoA) should stop pretending like their licensed content is canon to the games. Cause if they did stop with this facade, maybe the comics would be allowed to be interesting and not have to deflect all criticisms as "mandates".
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Your headcanons need to be in character to the games. It's the only way to prevent another Evan Stanley.
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I don't really care about your headcanons, but if you're going to get butthurt over a few comments, then you shouldn't be writing a derivative fanfic. Go write something original and learn how to take criticism.
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>>573441204
Evan is correct to call out this guy when he's been sending the same message to her over and over again

Yes being an annoying autist is worse than getting a character "wrong"
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>>573451750
>criticism
That isn't criticism that's an 8 year old whining that his ice cream isn't chocolate like he wanted. Most people can enjoy strawberry you know.
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imagine liking SHITver
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I'm glad I'm not a Silverfag because this would make me turn into Infinite
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>>573452164
>people who don't like what I write are whining children
Just go and write something original.
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>>573451182
>green squares
Rly faggot?
Make it white or black and not a tablecloth texture.
Also I find it funny how the AI keeps insisting on staying anatomically correct and tries to add a slit to everyone despite this ending up with a censor usually.
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>>573452317
Because Evan is telling you her AU comic has nothing to do with the real deal?
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Good night /sthg/, and stay safe
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>>573452943
Good night Whisperanon
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>>573452894
The common complaint from Silverfags is that she writes Silver too much like GOTF. Evan confidently states that she has never done that. As a non-Silverfag this doesn't bother me.
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favorite sonic: Barrel Sonic
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>>573453075
And she is telling you in her comic, he can't fly, he can't use his powers correctly etc. So her claims are correct and they shouldn't bother you
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>>573452317
Silverfag here. Evan needs to be fired. She is literally lying.
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If she posted it on the internet, then it must be true. Believe it.
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HEY SONICBABS
SONIC CHARACTERS AREN'T EVEN SEXY
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>>573453508
Got anything not AI?
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>>573452572
Take your own advice.

Why the fuck do you want Sonic to begin with if you hate it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HoyeU-zs4Q
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silverbros...
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>>573451182
>>573452583
I got to do everything myself here.
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>>573453508
booba!
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>>573453726
>if you don't like my fanfic, you hate Sonic
Now you're being ridiculous.
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Imagine making a fanfic that is so Sonic that if you hate it that means you hate Sonic
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>>573453958
>Caring about GTA in 2026
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>>573454059
this
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evan sperging aside i wonder how ST would write silver or the silver/blaze/whatever third they will get's dynamic in the next games considering crossworld confirmed silver is the team leader
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>>573454323
Blaze, Marine, and Silver are gonna be stuck in spin-offs for the foreseeable future (pun intended). Note that Sega's MO with new games it to create a new character. Either to be Sonic's new sidekick or for Sonic to push his/her shit in.

And in Silver's case specifically, they have no fucking idea how to design gameplay around him. It's not a Shadow situation where he's just Tar Sonic with red eyeliner.
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>>573453958
>He cares about GTA
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>>573453508
First of all
>off model
Second of all she's not even in the top 3.
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>>573454323
Silver isn't the leader
He was following Knuckle's orders in Forces. And Blaze is the same as Knuckles so he will follow Blaze's orders
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>>573454536
theyll have to use him if he does well in m5 or whatever at the very least. a lot of the game stuff is movie synergy now for better or worse. i think the third will realistically be ariem instead of marine or someone else but nothings set in stone yet. regardless it can be a good opportunity to actually establish his character in a setting properly where excuses can't be used like rivals supposedly not being canon/japanese or 06 being reset etc.
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This franchise needs to go back trying to cater to teenage edginess. They should embrace the camp and properly fill a clear and obvious niche in the market.

There is nothing wrong or shameful with this franchise taking itself seriously.
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>>573454536
That's not true anymore. Frontiers is the first time Sonic has new playable characters besides Sonic in decades
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>>573454775
in 06 he is the one calling the shots even if blaze sometimes set him straight, regardless hes gonna be the main face of it anyway. you know how ST is with female characters already.
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>>573454880
>teenage edginess
are teens like how they used to 20 years ago?
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If you hate my fanfic, you hate Eggman.
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I like big quills and I cannot lie
You other brothers cant deny
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>>573453958
What's the difference between Bulgarian and Russian?
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>>573454962
gen alpha likes edgeslop from my experience, tame edgeslop that still uses cartoony cute deisgns but that makes the niche even more perfect.
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>>573454962
Teens will always be teens.
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>>573455043
The Vodka.
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>>573454946
He starts looking for Blaze like a dog the moment they get separated.
> hes gonna be the main face of it anyway. you know how ST is with female characters already
That's a different topic
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>>573454851
>They'll have to use him
But what the fuck will his gameplay be? That's the major question. Shadow and Blaze are very much clone Sonics but Silver has his ability to jack people off with his mind. Sonic 06 tried physics based gameplay and it flopped cause that doesn't lend well to action games. BoTW showed that it lends well to puzzles so maybe they'll go that route while Blaze handles all the action stuff.
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>>573455193

sudden confusion over losing a friend/ally but he still acts independently afterwards while blaze kinda just zones out doing not much without silver. the ones who deny this aren't even blazefags but uwufags trying to justify how idw is IC
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>>573455403
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Silverkeks completely doomed. Evan is never changing her Silver. Get destroyed.
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>>573455435
Blaze does the same thing as Silver, she just doesn't fight Sonic
>the ones who deny this aren't even blazefags but uwufags trying to justify how idw is IC
Apple to oranges. You are obsessed and in need of therapy
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>>573451415
To be fair, Metal Sonic being stuck on Little Planet until just before SA1 (Sonic 4), never made sense due to his post-CD appearances in games like Chaotix (32x) and Sonic R.
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>>573455623
i literally haven't seen anyone but uwufags deny that silver was the leader in 06.
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>>573455450
cute penis
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>>573446483
I'm waiting for Chroniclesfag's game
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>>573454962
Teens will always love melodrama and edge. It's literally part of the hormones.
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>>573455450
Nine is such a fucking tsundere
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>>573455668
Personally, I'm all for just making Sonic 4 not canon. That would be for the best cause it was always stupid to establish that Metal Sonic was stuck on Little Planet. Eggman has made multiple Metal Sonics in the Classic era and making one of them special was always a mistake. Hell, crank out Metal Sonics assembly line style. The movies at least figured that out.
>Chaotix and Sonic R
The Japanese manual of Chaotix established that Eggman recovered Metal Sonic's CPUs in order to build "Metal Sonic Kai". All the post-CD appearances are the OG's brain in a new body. Still seems unnecessary cause Eggman could just make a new one from scratch but yeah. There's a lore explanation.
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>>573455450
Oh fuck yea. Thanks drawfren.
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>>573455668
He also appeared in Sonic Drift and Triple Trouble. There is just no way around it.
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>>573456135
In a way, Eggman "best" creations are "alive" and learn from their mistakes. So he recovering the brain means that the new one will have the past experiences and can fight better. Eggman creates machines with "life".
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>>573455450
/ss/?
On /sthg/?
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So basically Sonic 4's insistence on being a complete retread of classic Sonic tropes from the Genesis era is the reason this plothole even exists right? As if there needed to be any more reason to hate those games.
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>>573455450
>Shotadom
God YES!
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>>573456561
Yes, because there was no reason to assume Metal Sonic was ever trapped on Little Planet until that game because he appeared in classic games after CD.
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>>573455450
Ken Penders will come out of nowhere to say this is canon to preboot
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just three more to go
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>>573457072
>PLAYING
>SONIC
>GAMES
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Sonic 4 was LITERALLY supposed to take place right after 3&K. Although, a journalist said the game was originally created as a smartphone game with no connection to the classic trilogy. Anyway, it being released as the sequel to 3 doesn't make it much of a plot hole because the other games Metal Sonic appeared in takes place after. But Sonic now stupidly put it after all the classic games because the characters have their modern look.
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>>573456561
Yes and No. Sonic 4 episode one's original timeline placement was right after Sonic 3&K. Ignoring the modern design and Sonic being able to use the homing attack, it would just be another adventure Sonic went on. Now here's where things get weird.

In the original placement of games (lol for those who know), Sonic CD happens AFTER Sonic 4 episode one with Episode 2 happening after CD. Keep in mind, this was before Sonic Generations. Furthermore, the only reason Sega even considered bringing back the Classic design was due to the backlash they got for Sonic 4.

That said, Sonic Team's mistake was not memoryholing Sonic 4. Removing it from the timeline not only gives us the objectively correct start of the modern era (Sonic Adventure) but prevents us from asking about all the loose plot threads left by Episode two...Little Planet is still robotisized.
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>>573456296
There is a way around it, though.

>>573456135
I know about the Metal Sonic Kai thing and how there is a lot evidence that he is the one who is actually in most Classic games (which is kinda cool actually), Yujiro-sama, but that wouldn't explain how and why Eggman recovered the Old Metal Sonic body the way he did in Sonic 4 or how to Old Metal Sonic body was able to work its way to that energy orb thing without a brain. Unless Sonic 4 confirms the OG Classic Metal Sonic is confirmed dead for real (original CPU is lost).

But I know it really doesn't matter, its just fun to think about.

>crank out Metal Sonics assembly line style
Isn't Sega specifically against that? At least they were for Archie.
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im surprised the hologram is the least one people have achieved, i thought the time attack one would be it.
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>>573457269
I think it was based off the old idea people had about CD happening after 3 and I guess Sega went along with it?

They should just remake the game, give everyone their classic designs, and include Episode 3 to wrap up the story if they don't want to let it go.
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>>573456561
>Sonic Blast
https://youtu.be/NgT0Er3d-0E
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>>573457072
10 € is a good price but I'm still not going to buy it
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If it isn't the 4th wheel
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Sonic 4 was built on hating on the Modern 3D games and pretending they don't exist and of it was a success it would've became a reboot for the franchise.
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>>573457727
i think they pulled it from digital stores
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>>573457750
Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Its About Time
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>>573457475
>How do you solve the Metal Sonic Paradox caused by Sonic 4.
In the timeline presented >>573451415 this is done via Sonic Generations. There is a bossfight that takes place in Little Planet where you fight Metal Sonic. In order to make Sonic 4 work, let's say that is Metal Sonic Kai you are fighting and that after you kick his ass, his remains are left on Little Planet where they will stay until Sonic Mania where he is beaten again and left for dead until Sonic 4.

The Time Eater in general is a get out of jail free card but this is the cleanest explanation you could get without cheating. I would like to restate how I'd prefer if Sonic 4 was just ruled non-canon alongside the other mobile games like Sonic Jump.

>Sega against multiple Metal Sonics
If you don't know, I won't be spoiling that.
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>>573457749
Ironic comic from Jet the ex boyfriend
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>>573457919
Jetfags harassed a writer for 3 days over this joke
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>>573457975
We will not stand for cuckoldry
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>>573457850
Why is the number 4 so cursed?
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>>573457539
Nah, it's fine as the first chronological Modern Sonic story before SA1(a pocket adventure), they should just create episode three as intended and then compile the games into a single full release.

At most, they should clean up Episode 1 to be up to par with Episode 2.
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>>573457539
Sonic 4 complete edition...Naw. This kinda of tying up loose ends should be left to say, an episode of Tailstube or one of the IDW comics.
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>>573458031
Tl note: 4, shi, means death
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>>573458031
Thing 1: the original
Thing 2: expanding the concepts from the original
Thing 3: a new twist on the original formula
Thing 4: ?????????????? i am out of ideas please give me money
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Do you think Sonic merchandise is canon? Someone has to be making money out of Sonic's face
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>>573457975
If you can't prove it then it did not happen.
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>>573458031
Star Wars starts on Episode 4, and it started a whole franchise and re-invigorated the sci-fi. Resident Evil 4 innovated the TPS genre. Super Mario World is officially called "Super Mario Bros 4" in Japan, and it's (debatably) the best Super Mario game in the franchise.

But really, its because after three entries the old formula starts to feel stale for the devs and they try to reinvigorate the IP.
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>>573453981
>>573446039
well I got hard
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I don't know if I just misinterpreted her character at first or something but I really don't like Cream these days.
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>>573443540
Nah, bring that shit back.
Amy should say "Mai daaarrllling"" like an anime.girl again.
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>>573443540
I don't know what you responded to but I'm just gonna assume it was meant for this >>573444038
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>>573457919
>gay flag behind sonadow
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>>573459428
She is just a kid I don't understand how anyone can like someone so boring
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>>573459428
What did you like/misinterpret about Cream before and why don't you like her now?
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I wish Cream got hurt in the Zombot arc to set the stakes
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>>573445262
Whoa where did you get this picture of Krack?
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I wish Cream got raped in the Zombot arc to set the stakes
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>>573460189
I mean she came in on an umbrella like Mary Poppins in Advance 3, I really thought she was like that.
>>573460267
Everyone talks to her like a baby taking her first steps. She seemed like she had a bit more going on upstairs before than just thanking everyone for being nice to her and giving her headpats. But no...that's really just...her entire character. I mean, in Rush she seemed like she had at least some level of emotional intelligence that was crucial to Blaze's arc, but...I may have just imagined it.
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>>573446184
I'd instead just make it an outfit she wears in a spinoff or something where she has to go to a eurodance or hiphop

>>573457269
>original
It wasnt original. Originally CD was always before 2, but they tried to retcon it to after 4 for Sonic 4, as well as trying yo claim Knuckles' story in Sonic 3&K took place during Sonic 3.
(Iirc, these ideas were SoA's)
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>>573460638
I think people just took the jokes at Amy's expense for Crram being smart fot her age by comparison or somrthing, but even in Rush, she is portrayed as just a cute innocent wrll-mannered little girl with a childlike innocence and charm to her.
This is her character in every game.
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>>573460171
You know being obsessed with the alphabet crew makes you as bad at them
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>>573461056
I think the gameplay might have warped my perception of her.
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>>573461104
>why are you jews so obsessed with hitler?
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>>573461152
>Let me tell you about all these useless flags nobody cares about. I don't like troons I swear
Rope
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>>573461271
Finally, I thought you'd never ask.
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Adolf-kun retired to Argentina.
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>>573461109
I mean, I always saw thr gameplay as...just gameplay. I don't get how someone can unitonically think Cream was meant to be a world destroyer. Especially with X running parallel where she is nothing of the sort.
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>>573461675
Sorry nephew, but Sonic Advance 2 was released in 2002, X was released in 2003.
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>>573461056
i think the jokes werent about her being smart specifically but a quirk about despite how polite she is, its still imprefect because that bluntness is typical of a child.

also the jokes are localized poorly, she doesn't actually call out her being delusional about sonic but something else.
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>>573461904
Anon, people dont all but games only on release especially back then before the internet became mainstream.
Game releases also weren't completely standardized. You had discrepancies because it was harder to track.

>>573462134
Yes, it was supposed to be a "emperor's new clothes" type thing where she says something innocently that comes off wrong or silly.
But I think because people just believed you were supposed to hate Amy, they saw it as Amy being dumb and Cream being smart because a lot of people just seem to have this black and white winner take all mentality due to American television tropes.
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>>573462430
>people dont all but
*buy
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>>573462430
No nephew, I was telling you about my experience, not "people's" experiences. I had Advance 2 before X ever came on TV.
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>>573462537
Advance 2 starts with her kidnapped by Eggman.
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>>573462627
Anon, everyone but Sonic was kidnapped by Eggman.
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>>573461104
Im not the one obsessed, they are
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Noooo...
They banned Nine shota...
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>>573462836
Knuckles and Amy were not. Just Tails and Cream
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>>573463095
We will try again
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Infinite won
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>>573463857
Knuckles was kidnapped. Amy isn't even in the story, just an unlockable bonus.
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What will the next Sonic game suffer from?
https://strawpoll.com/7MZ0klNb8go
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>>573464584
Where's the "all of the above" option
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>>573462430

>>But I think because people just believed you were supposed to hate Amy, they saw it as Amy being dumb and Cream being smart because a lot of people just seem to have this black and white winner take all mentality due to American television tropes.

its mostly because of shipping/anti-shipping, in japanese they usually avoid bringing up what sonic feels about amy by other characters to keep the relationship ambigous but soa kinda dunks on it openly. in the original she says something like ''amy is an energetic girl who who loves sonic and tries her best, but she can go too far and lose sense of her surroundings'' in the japanese it's less about her calling her delulu about sonic but moreso calling her for being too emotional or intense in general. if the line was localized better i think the backlash or this interpretation would be less common. notice how no one brings up knuckles also trying to hit her for cream calling him ''not very bright'' because it can't be used to confirm or deconfirm a ship.
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People deadass hate Amy Rose for committing the crime of being and acting like a teenage girl.
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>>573464515
>Knuckles was kidnapped.
No he wasn't, larper.
He is controlling the mech you fight.
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>>573465132
>this shit again
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>>573464908
Tbf, people did dunk on Knuckles for "being an idiot" even back then. And thry do uncharitably frame everything he does through a bias lens where a basic mistake of failure is treated as "proof of his stupidity".
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>>573465193
maria's fat butt!
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i know after 06 soa had more control than soj, but nowadays, in 2020s who has more control?
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>>573465435
Ian Flynn
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>>573465215
yeah they did, but everyone understood that one scene as just comedic banter while the amy one was proof of ''abusive stalker''
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>>573465626
nigga you gay
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>>573465626
If you boyfriend beats you down and you are thinking about sex you are in a toxic relationship
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In this moment, I am supremely euphoric.
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>>573466671
yeah that happens when i look at wolf boobies
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>>573465568
I mean for sure. People would straight up misconstrue and even make shit up about her just for shipwarfagging, but I do think youre underestimating how uncharitable people were to Knuckles.
I think Amy got it MUCH worse, but Knuckles got crap too.
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>>573465042
People hate teenage girls. See how Turning Red was received
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>>573468913
American issue
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teenage girls are hot
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>>573461904
>he doesn't know about the Sonic X/TMS Cream conspiracy
The internal pilot is reportedly dated from before both Advance 2 and Heroes started development. It had Cream and "Chao"
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>>573470646
cheese da best
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>>573468913
People hate cringe, which is the only way 30/40 somethings know how to write teenagers.
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>>573469773
You sick wolf!
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>>573468746
Hot
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>>573470787
teenagers are naturally cringe
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https://litter.catbox.moe/hmc570.jpg
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>>573462964
And they even made Shadow the gay gay one.

IDW was a mistake
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>>573472274
sonamyfags:
>evan stanely is better than flynn because she does amy right while doing everything else wrong and she will give us a lot of sonamy
meanwhile evan stanley
>sonic and shadow are gay and faggots
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>>573445595
That's basically choosing between SA1 Tails where he races Sonic, or SA2 Tails where he's just in the mech.

The better focal point is SA1 Tails.
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>>573472584
Evan?
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>>573450064
>Sonic as a Knight?
>
>He's a fucking mascot character.
Sonic & the Black Knight doesn't change Sonic's character.

It just drops Sonic into the world of King Arthur with his core character traits completely intact and unchanged, and he just adapts to the world from there. That is how mascot characters should actually work.

Characters like Mickey Mouse can be dropped into any setting or scenario and still be 100% themselves. THAT is what makes them mascot characters.
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>>573472584
>>573472819
Evan is a polyfag. She either wants Sonamyadow threesomes or Amy to sit in the cuck chair with a wedding ring on.
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>>573472584
Evan is only good at writing Amy because she's extremely Amy-brained and looks at everything through rose-tinted fangirl uwu shipper goggles.
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>>573446483
Where else am I gonna go? Reddit? Twitter? No thanks.
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>>573473442
Projecting
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>>573434471
Sonamy is just Minato and Kushina
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>>573455668
>Chaotix (32x)
That one, at least, was confirmed a different body (Kai). Same with Fighters (Rocket Metal/Model 29). I don't have an explanation for every time he showed up in classic era before 4, though, but you can probably just assume he made a bunch of them until he managed to retrieve the original from Little Planet and upgrade it.
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Why aren’t (You) Radical?
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>>573474128
>Buzzword that doesn't even make sense in this context
IIRC, she made or was planning to make Silver, Sonic, and Tikal a throuple in her fan comic. Amy would have to share if Evan had the say.
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>>573459616
Well that's part of her character, so yes, she should. The other thing is just a weird voice direction call and I think it's fun in SA2 when Sonic's jump kicking a giant rock robot but generally makes less sense in most scripts.
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>>573474153
Never forget that the Third Hokage lied to them about taking care of their son.
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>>573465042
I wouldn't even say she really leans that hard into it. Like sure, there are some obvious traits there, but she's always been pretty mature for her apparent age. They literally just hate her because she loves Sonic a LOT and that's where they perceive her behavioral issues to be. Can't just let the girl have fun. She's not hurting anyone. Sonic doesn't even care that much. But for some reason she's "a stalker" or "abusive."
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>>573474303
>buzzword
Nigga you're throwing punches at the only person in SoA who still likes Sonamy
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>>573441204
>Refute this
She never made him light hearted, only weak hearted, her head is in the right place, her actions are not.
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>>573472819
ooc slop
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>>573441204
I cant
But none of you watched Silver's convo with Amy in 06 and you'revstill gonna whine
Where was Silver's lighthearted side in Metal Virus huh
Or when they wers hunting Duo huh
They were high stakes situations and he wasnt uwu
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monke
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MANDATORY /STHG/ VISIT:
COMPLETED
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>>573476551
I highly doubt that with how much material it still gets and also Evan is not without fault.
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>>573445595
I fell asleep after that post lol
I love both, but if I really have to choose only one, then I'll go with flying, since it's the ability of his tails which are unique and emblematic of his character
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>>573435546
>I think it's a good showcase of Silver's strengths
BITCH WHAT STRENGTHS?
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Is every Classic story just gonna end the same way
Bring all the characters together and fight
This time we had a Super Sonic so kudos to them but idk, Seasons of Chaos, Amy 30th, 35th anni
They all feel the same to me
Knux 30th sucks major balls and was the biggest nothingburger oat while Knux was raped by Shadow during his own anni
Only Tails 30th was good
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>>573435546
I do not look forward to when Silver returns in #88 or so.
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Just tell Evan to kill off Silver in this arc, if i was him i would've committed suicide on my own immediately already.
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>>573435546
>you've sent this message several times
Sometimes to love is to let go and not be a sperg about cartoon hogs
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>>573475753
Ive literally seen people shit on her for being "too bubbly and energetic"
Like dude, that's the fucking character.
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>>573477903
His struggles against the odds, the way he is forced to take a role bigger than him etc
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>>573478429
Failing so hard after taking bigger roles than himself (gardening, fighting 1 Eggpawn, catching mimic)
Wow he's so strong!
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>>573478038
Whoops, I forgot to change the IDW tattoo
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Boys!
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>next Crossworlds character trailer
>it starts with text saying not to forget the past
>it cuts to the classic cast driving in a movie theater track in what looks like actual gameplay playing as Ray in last place, but there's a disclaimer on the bottom saying not actual gameplay
>suddenly, two purple balls of light fly past them
>they drive by Sonic movie posters and a random car pulls up near Fang, Bean, and Bark with a mobster in the random car pulling out a tommy gun, proceeding to shoot them to death
>they drive into white cave and a boulder falls on top of Mighty, splattering his brains over the screen
>they drive into dinosaur jungle and Trip spins into the mouth of the t-rex that eats her alive, blood dripping from its teeth after
>as they drive into sand road, we see clearer that even Honey's there and so is a realistic panther that jumps into her car and eats her alive
>with only Ray left now in first, he turns into a purple ball of light, flying up into the sky above clockwork pyramid where he turns back to normal and gets impaled
>while Ray dies, we change POV to the two purple balls of lights that arrive on the finish line
>they turn into Shadow Yamoto and Larcen Tyler
>SONIC X ETERNAL CHAMPIONS
>disclaimer at the bottom saying none of the Sonic characters featured in this trailer will be playable
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Fucking narcissist
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Foolishness, Sonic, foolishness…
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>>573478959
Ray WTF
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>>573477409
It's amazing how few people are left that played 06, including Ian and Evan, apparently.
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>>573478145
No, they are going to get worse. Seasons of Chaos and Amy 30th actually let the characters other than Sonic do something and talk to each other unlike 35th.
>Knux was raped by Shadow during his own anni
To be fair, they kind of let Knuckles just celebrate his anniversary in 2022 to align with movie 2 and rape Tails out of his.
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>>573478959
Tails made it for him
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>>573478382
>Ive literally seen people shit on her for being "too bubbly and energetic"
I haven't, thankfully, because I'd probably fly into a blind rage if I did. People really will just complain about anything.
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>>573479271
I played it for the first time 2 years ago. It was a lot more fun than you fags had me believe, I legitimately thought it was impossible to enjoy. I hope more people give it a honest chance once the recomp is completed
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>>573479406
>everyone's a padbabby but Sonic & Mighty
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>>573479449
Of couse the narcissist that lives in a house shaped like his head would make something like that
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>>573479271
It is a terrible, buggy game that nearly killed Sonic and the franchise has never fully recovered from. The best bet is to convince people to play Project 06 or the Rivals games to understand Silver.
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>>573479406
That game gear phone case is sick. I want it.
>>573479570
No it's great. It's just rushed and buggy and the physics are kinda shit. But it's full of charm. It's an Adventure game at heart and the last of its kind. The last really ambitious story they ever had, too. At least in a main game.
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>>573478959
He is Tails clone so of course
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>>573477409
going as far to making him an uwubaby off of that is pretty excessive though.
Fangirls struggle not to do this.
Silver had an adorkable side, but its played up more as a charming naiveté than him being a full on goober.
I think he has been handled better recently though.
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>>573479406
Why isn't Tails using the Miles Electric

>>573479636
Yep he makes them for his friends as well
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>>573478581
The strength of being able to smile despite all the things he went through.
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>>573435546
Just found the tumblr page, every retarded tumbler is actually so confident in this guy being wrong because "Evan is treating him well because she loves him!", i need more people to kill themselves in this planet, i'm am so fucking pissed.
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kill tailspedos
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>>573479747
>going as far to making him an uwubaby off of that is pretty excessive though.
I'm not sure which conversation anon is even talking about, but like in the desert scene Silver was pretty exasperated with Amy and then got distracted by the scenery, which then turned into full on enthusiasm for taking action into one of the worst Sonic levels ever made.
>its played up more as a charming naiveté than him being a full on goober.
So it's really more this. There's genuinely no defense for uwuver.
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>>573479640
P-06 doesn't include the story. The original game is already fun as is

>>573479674
Yeah the story is exciting, and I enjoy playing Sonic's stages despite the clunky controls/physics
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With how insane and specific some of the known mandates can get, the fact Silver is kind of left unmandated for Evan's enjoyment is so funny. I think Ian said even Bark has specific mandates around not making him too mean. They're only keeping Silver around at this point because his face and potential manisms sell a lot of merch.
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>>573479967
Go cry about it
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>>573479857
What things he went through? nobody, nothing, not even himself showed that he went through anything, he's a fucking kid that is messing with things he doesn't understand because he wants to be someone else, that's what Silver became because of IDW, a fucking loser.
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Why do you hate evan's husbando?
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>>573479993
Based. Throw them in the same wood chipper as Silverfags and 06 defenders.
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>>573479993
lol
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>>573479993
based
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>>573480213
You already know what he went through. Is the same backstory as 06 but with Ifrit and Nega
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>>573480210
Through out history mistreatment always leads to dramatic endings, this is only the first person that raises concerns directly to her face and she responding back, soon, it would be an entire mob that fucks up her life like they did to Gigi
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>>573480062
>Yeah the story is exciting, and I enjoy playing Sonic's stages despite the clunky controls/physics
The only ones that really got me were the mach speed sections because they're so specific in what they want you to do without you getting stuck on something until you die. But there's also a certain lack of polish for things that should have been easy to fix, like launching from jump pads having Sonic basically slamming his head into the next flat surface because they didn't just rotate the model a little more. But the level design in 06 is fantastic. Genuinely top-notch among 3D Sonic games.
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>>573480346
That's why i'm not blind, i can see a completely different character with his skin and name.
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>>573480294
>Silverfags
Nakamura will make sure they win. He's going to show up in the movies and get his own game (without needing to rely on rehashing Generations yet again, unlike Shadow)

>06 defenders
More and more people are realizing that you lied and it's actually a great game

Every day you're getting humiliated more and more, and it will continue until you are forgotten
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>>573479447
>let the characters other than Sonic do something and talk to each other unlike 35th.
Sonic doesnt do anything in this
>SuperSonic
A formality that wasnt much of anything for Sonic himself. It was for metal.
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>>573480081
They're very cute together.
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>>573480547
>Failspedo can't handle CHADow
Of course.
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>>573479447
Only Tails and Knuckles do anything in this. Sonic falls on his ass constantly and has Knuckles bail him out or others do the work he was supposed to do instead.
Ian i swear
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>>573480401
As far as I am aware Gigi is still working for IDW so why are you trying to make it some kind of victory?
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>>573479967
The truth is Uwuver is a big reason Silver is popular. The other big reason is shonen autists that wank him to being the strongest mostly using Archie. The character lives entirely off of yume and power scaler fanfiction. No one cares about the actual Silver except some hyper specific autists that usually browse here. He's an official fan OC at this point.
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>>573480643
I like Shadow in SA2 and 2006. The 2005 game seems cool too, I'll play it someday. The nostalgiabaitrehashboostslop from 2024 is lame though
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>>573480547
>Tailscuck afraid of Kingdow and defending actual garbage
Ironic that Tails is a genius while his fans are retarded.
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>>573480926
Why is Tails blushing?
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>>573480998
Shadow is great, they should have given him more good games instead of ignoring him for 20 years and then giving him Generations slop
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Splitting mobian heads in half, pissing inside their skulls!
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>cuckdow
Raped by zombies.
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>>573481216
If you're gonna mix FF7 and Sonic crackships, at least do it right. Shadow would be Cloud, Amy would be Tifa, and Maria would be Aerith.
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>>573481740
>Amy would be Tifa
Kys
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>>573481837
>pursues childhood friend romantically for years
>skilled fighter
>wins after her competition dies
Prove me wrong, faggot.
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>>573480778
Not even a Silverfag but this is just not true. Silver was always liked. He was meme'd on but he always had fans.
The idea Uvuver made him popular is fanfiction made by his haters the same way people that insist Amy was despised by everyone until Boom claim it so.
Its not.
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I was about to ask if other fandoms develop unironic stockholm syndrome for their worst pieces of media like Sonicfags do for 06, but then remembered that this is not an uncommon trend and listing them off would derail the thread. A lot of people just want more media to consume without thinking or decided something is good and thus anything that thing does is good. Saying 06 had potential, but is still a bad, broken game being seen as a controversial statement in any part of the fandom is crazy.
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>>573481740
Amy is way more of an Aerith. Tifa is like Blaze or Rouge.
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>>573481961
>avoids actually describing Amy's actual personality and character.
NTA but come on dude. All you people do is scoreboardfag.
That last line isnt even a real "point". Its some meta statement around shipfaggotry.
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>>573482115
>>573482263
This is about the crackship fanart, not accuracy.
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Every media i've ever consumed as a kid sucked ass. Nowdays the difference is that everything sucks ass even more.
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Funnily, Shadow also has the worst gameplay of the three main characters in Sonic 2006. Most of the vehicles are annoying and his combat is so slow and clunky. At least building up the gauge makes the enemy faster to defeat, I think. And Omega is great, he carries Shadow's stages when he's playable. Sonic is a lot more fun and has quicker combat and a good moveset, and Silver is okay. Although with Silver it's annoying how often I get hit by projectiles, I'm not sure there's a reliable way to avoid them.

I still want to complete every Shadow stage in the game though. I already did the base game of course, but I also want to do the hard mode versions and the DLC, like I did with Sonic. Has any Shadowfag here done that yet?

>>573482037
The worst Sonic game is the 3DS version of Sonic Lost World, it's so boring and bland and stale and annoying I can't bring myself to play it. I tried several times and there was no fun to be had. Sonic 2006 having bugs doesn't make it impossible to enjoy
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>>573482037
Yes because the autism around 06 being the devil was always unnatural.
Other fandoms, when a game is bad, thry just day its bad and continue talking about it and picking out what they dif or didnt like about it.

But Sonic, because of the marketing og the 90s, attracted a fanbase and generated a culture where these fans care more about the franchise's perception in the "pathon of gaming icons" than the games themselves.
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>>573482003
If this were true, Uwuver would be something a lot more of the fanbase is against rather than a select vocal minority you often have to go out of your way to find. While still not more than those that have accepted it, the new Amy still gets a lot of hate and I have at least seen even Amy haters admit they still like the old Amy more because the new one is now too boring.
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>>573482369
>The worst Sonic game is the 3DS version of Sonic Lost World, it's so boring and bland and stale and annoying I can't bring myself to play it. I tried several times and there was no fun to be had.
That's... probably pretty close, yeah. Not that the other version of Lost World is much better. Nor is Forces. I'd say Lost World, Forces, and Sonic 4 Episode I (I actually kinda like Episode II) round out my bottom three in the series in some order or another. 06 doesn't make the cut there.
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>>573482473
Indeed. I've seriously come to dislike that attitude. Most Sonic fans are more concerned with making a good impression or having the games sell or the series be respected, instead of just enjoying what they like
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>>573482327
Then why even make the comparison and argue about it?
Just take your L.
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>>573482605
Forces is a good game and better than most of Sonic's slop.
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>>573482497
>#
>If this were true, Uwuver would be something a lot more of the fanbase is against
It is. Silver is just lower on the pecking order in general. People are too busy complaining about Sonic, Shadow, Amy and Tails.
Silver also just hasn't had issues outside of IDW really.
You need to step out of your discord more.
https://youtu.be/20kw9Llsk0A
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the alleged screenshot that krack shared here has reached facebook and 100% of the comments are "who gives a shit" even from the sonamyfags who say sonamy was never canon to begin with.
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Describe Whisper in one word
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>>573482003
>>573482497
i think people simply don't see uwuver as being different from 06ver because people who actually played the game instead of watching cutscenes on youtube are rare + english dubisms and you can cope that not growing in bad future made him softer.
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>>573482610
It reeks massively of "I need to sit at the popular kids table" energy and it ain't cute.
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>>573482739
It really isn't. It's actual dogshit. It feels awful to play and it has some of the worst music in the series ranging from outright bad (classic Sonic) to forgettable (everything else). And every stage is "Hey remember Genesis game" but everything is brown. I just replayed it last week, so I feel very confident in saying that it is actual garbage.
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>>573482868
I could but you wouldn't hear it
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>>573482868
uuuuuuuu
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>>573482971
Wrong.
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>>573482868
Chocolate
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>>573483018
Sorry, child, your game is bad. The Shadow DLC sucks, too.
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>>573472584
Monkey's paw
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>>573483109
Still wrong.
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>>573481378
Same person that cried toxic masculinity also engages in toxic masculinity by hurting those that are smaller and more defenseless
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>>573482605
I can't comment on the main version of Lost World because I haven't played it yet. I expect the gameplay to be more enjoyable, but it looks so different from what I expect from Sonic. I think I'll try to enjoy it as a Mario game instead of a Sonic game. And of course the aesthetics are still lame. Forces is I think more of a mixed bag, the Avatar is a good idea, and some of the last few stages are okay. But Classic is awful to play and most of the Modern stages are way too bland and straightforward
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>>573482867
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>>573462964
Genocide Sonadow fujos
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>>573482878
>>573482003
>>573482878
like when i say silver was the leader who called the shots in 06 people look at the scene where blaze tells him that he should get going regardless of the ethicality of killing someone and think it means she's in a higher authority than him. the way sonic team utilized him is too esoteric in a way they handle charas like amy or shadow to a lesser extent that people somehow can twist it into uwuver even if the claims are wrong.
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>>573482739
Forces sperging is autistic but the game is painfully mediocre, but that said I actually think more normies would enjoy it than dedicated fans
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>>573482867
>facebook
Couldnt give a flying fuck
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>>573483189
>And of course the aesthetics are still lame.
For what it's worth, I think that the Wii U/Steam version is actually gorgeous and has an amazing soundtrack. But that's literally where the positives end for that game.
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>>573482473
The hate for 06 itself wasn't unnatural. It's the journalists that milked it years later that were unnatural. Sonic 06 was hyped up as massive by being the big next gen Sonic game and 15th anniversary title, being smug enough to just call itself Sonic the Hedgehog. Then it came out and was a complete mess. The hate was definitely earned at the time, but the amount of retards that came into the fanbase suddenly complaining about humans, too many friends or that Sonic shouldn't have a story for years and years was insanity. Then the ecelebs started going after Adventure to fuel the fire. Even as late as Crossworlds, people wanting the game with Sonic in the title to actually have Sonic characters were getting hate for wanting "Glup Shittos". I get that the 06 defenders are trying to over correct after game journalists and ecelebs brought in a bunch of tourists and larpers, but they really aren't doing us much favors by defending this of all games. The Sonic fandom is always one step forwards, two steps back.
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>>573483202
no u
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>>573483202
Naked hand…
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The obsession with Silver completely changing personality to be uwu wholesome cinnamon roll when things are calm and peaceful is just Evan projecting her DID fetish.
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>>573483356
>Even as late as Crossworlds, people wanting the game with Sonic in the title to actually have Sonic characters were getting hate for wanting "Glup Shittos".
Good. There's no one left but Glup Shittos to add from Sonic and it's a crossover game and always has been. You get crossovers.
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>>573483356
i think people who said these things always existed in the background but 06 simply gave them excuse to pretend it was intrisnically bad rather than the game itself being glitchy and rushed.
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>>573482867
Just wait until someone posts the screenshot to Twitter. Katie will be doing damage control and so will Ian on Bluesky
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>>573483267
Its not what happened. What happened is a lot of so called fans only ever engaged eith Sonic through the internet. They didn't play games or watch cutscenes on their own to make their own conclusions.
They looked up memes and fanart and parroted what other people said and adopted those as their opinions.
Uvuver is a fandom meme that existed long before IDW.
There are a lot of people who legit got ibto the Sonic fandom though sprite fight animations or playing UltimateFlashSonic specifically.
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>>573483658
the screenshot on facebook was a screenshot of a twitter post
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>>573482838
>ends your rebuttal by accusing me of being a discord user
I don't want to be that guy, but by going for petty insults, you have damaged your credibility.
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Last two /sthg/ anons left in a dead general, fighting over their favorite ships:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=b4fx6BjWEqk
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>>573483749
I'm gonna strangle that third reply.
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>>573483356
>The hate for 06 itself wasn't unnatural. It's the journalists that milked it years later that were unnatural. Sonic 06 was hyped up as massive by being the big next gen Sonic game and 15th anniversary title, being smug enough to just call itself Sonic the Hedgehog. Then it came out and was a complete mess
If you go on forums and look up opinions, people actually were fine eith it even though they said it had bugs anf issues. It wouldn't be until a couple years later when cringe compilation and Epic Fail videos and started up on it and people started dunking on the game as proof of "Sonic being washed up" or whatever that it started to snowball into what it did.
A lot of different interest groups has a vested interest in dunking on the game at the same time. It was kind of just a perfect storm
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>>573483749
I'm gonna hug that third reply, he understands character development, Amy is moving on from Sonic finally.
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>>573483512
Hi, Jim Sterling. I will not be calling you a woman.
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>>573483732
>What happened is a lot of so called fans only ever engaged eith Sonic through the internet. They didn't play games or watch cutscenes on their own to make their own conclusions.
>They looked up memes and fanart and parroted what other people said and adopted those as their opinions.
When did Sonic become Touhou?
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>>573483356
>The hate for 06 itself wasn't unnatural.
I read a Sonic Retro thread from when the game released and it actually started natural. People were talking about it like a normal game. They were playing it and reacting to the things they were experiencing. Both positive things and negative things were being said. The general attitude was that it was unfortunate that the game had glitches. Then after a page or two some tarted to act like this game will ruin everything forever if you don't harass anyone who says anything even slightly positive about it. That attitude spread and now most people won't even give it a chance. For many years you couldn't say anything even slightly positive. Needless to say, liking the game overall is forbidden.

>I get that the 06 defenders are trying to over correct
I'm not. I'm "defending" the game because I played it recently and enjoyed it. It's embarrassing that I used to believe the narrative that it's so bad and awful and no one should enjoy it at all for the good of the series and I should never even try it myself. I criticize the game for the things I don't like and appreciate it for the things I do like. I also understand that others might dislike the game, or like parts of the game that I do not like (such as Shadow's gameplay) and accept that those opinions exist. This is natural. Saying "everyone should hate it and you shouldn't play it ever" isn't.
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>>573483732
look i get what you mean but i ve argued with idw silver being ooc with people who actually watched the cutscenes, or even played the game in english. it's disingenious but even the fanarts headcanons come from twisting something actually real beyond recognizition rather than absolute nothing. i am not saying uwuver is canon, but the material itself had a base for headcanons due to sonic teams weird utilization and dubisms.
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>>573483965
This is why you get made fun of.
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>>573483749
>when the comments are more cucked than the company
>"ewww a girl character who loves a MAN?! IN MY VIDEOGAMES?!?"
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>>573484115
And people made fun of the shape of your penis, Projared.
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>>573483839
>implying im going for a "lold discord user" jab.
I use discord. Its just how the internet is now.
I miss forums.
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What's Honey's favourite sex position
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>>573484187
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>>573483859
I love how Sonamyfags is seething and samefagging like their life depended on it.
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>>573484326
Whatever gets Iizuka to let her out of the vault.
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>>573483957
Duo....

>>573483984
Sonic is not unique in this respect. DB and Yugioh have the same issue.
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>>573484187
>>573484332
There really is no saving this franchise anymore. ST and Iizuka won't do it and everyone else, including a chunk of the fanbase, is actively tanking it.
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>amy doesn't love sonic anymore. my ship sank (it never floated). this franchise is doomed
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>>573482037
It's jap fags cope. If it was western they will hate it.
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>>573483749
>As a Sonamy fan...
Doubt

The screenshot is likely real. Katie has admitted that the lore team also has a say on what the English script is going to be
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Sonamy melty hours
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>>573484773
ah yes. the usual.
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>>573484332
>solo woman media
>harley quinn (flop)
>latest super girl (flop)
They never fucking learn.
>amy's brand
Is he smoking crack? Is that community full of dumb niggers?
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>>573483994
>That attitude spread and now most people won't even give it a chance. For many years you couldn't say anything even slightly positive. Needless to say, liking the game overall is forbidden
Can confirm because I FELL FOR IT. I legit participated in that shit for years and I feel like a tard for it.
Anyone telling you otherwise is too young or lacks self awareness.
I remember playing games like Colors Wii for example and not really liking it much, but shutting my mouth because 'Sonic needed the win" or whatever.
But I always felt the DS version was fun and the Wii version felt soulless by comparison.

It wouldn't be until Forces and Lost World where I started to shake out of the mindset. Rise of Lyric destroyed the series and all the Classicfanboys came out the woodwork shitting on Modern and it was just so ass dude.
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>>573484861
>Can confirm because I FELL FOR IT. I legit participated in that shit for years and I feel like a tard for it.
Same.
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>>573484854
paramount said they want to make an amy series
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>>573484810
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>>573484048
Why do you have a nuanced opinion? You know those don't belong here.
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The fact we're living in a timeline where you can walk into a lot of stores and find Mighty on a bunch of varying merch and a physical game, but zero references to his existence in Crossworlds yet asking why gets you accused of wanting glup shittos sounds like fans wanting cohesion and nonfan tourists being hostile more than anything.
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>>573484990
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>>573484963
I would prefer that they did not.
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>>573484963
Go on, if it ends up like the echidna that's a good outcome. But who watches amy?
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>>573484187
Literally

>>573484332
Amy loving Sonic doesn't shackled her to anything.
Sometimes I wonder if the issue is just that these people don't themsleves see Sonic as cool, so their projecting ass jist sees Amy's love for him as a "trope" that exists outside of the character.
Or they are just projecting western cartoon trope conventions onto her.
Take your pick.

Part of how I became an Amyfag was first becoming a Sonicfag and grasping his true character. No shit Amy would be enamored with the guy lol.
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>>573485007
if you are a regular dude you probably don't get where it comes from unless you hated the character. but if you were a girl or a ''sentimental'' guy (not necessarily gay, woke or lgbt) then it'd be clearer to see why people interpereted 06ver as being similar to idwver even if it is objectively wrong.

drawfagging + being unemployed otherwise gave me enough patience to reflect on things.
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>>573485130
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>>573484692
If it was western it would be an entirely different game that's shitty in a different way so of course we would hate it.
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>>573485286
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This is not going to end well at all for the fandom is it?
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>>573485285
I am the latter thing you mentioned, and I do actually agree with you that certain things can be construed into the Uwuver we see today, like Silver calling Dusty Desert beautiful. The issue is that it was blown out of proportion to make that his only character trait, or make it overpower all his other traits.
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>>573481575
didn't cuckails cry in fear after getting infected by the same virus, at least shadow went down fighting
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>>573485648
went down jobbing*
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wolf
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I have no idea how i should deal with people like in this screenshot >>573483749
>a relic from the 90s
>hurr durr i want muh nostalgia even though i don't want the old culture because that's not progressive at all!
I hate these people, there is no kind of person i hate more than this fucking millennial phenotype who deserves nothing but slop and slop and slop and a steel rod up their asses.
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>>573485158
>Who watches Amy?
Kids and people who like Sonamy
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>>573485583
>Either they make Blaze weaker than Silver
>Or they make Silver weaker than Blaze
They're positivity out of both of them being together for neither of their fandoms
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>>573485583
What comes after #100?
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>>573485595
yea, but desu the fans would do it to even shadow if they had their way. and they also sort of do it to sonic himself already, any biased or emotional fan is likely to do that. it's sega's job to stop it, but they don't care about keeping silver accurate, even the fact idw's latter chapters draws his eyes more like shadow or blaze rather than amy is probably due to artist preferences rather than sega wanting it corrected. evan or someone else could draw him with round amy eyes again if they werent afraid of fanbase backlash or if it was simply their preference.
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>>573485162
"Amy loving Sonic shackles her to him" is Ian's Flynn's mindset
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>>573485089
Mighty to be fair actually is Glup shitto.
Ray as well.
Trip is newer than both and is already more of an actual character.
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Get that pink thing out of Team Sonic
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>>573485089
wtf is a glup?
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>Super Sonic Monthly #6
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>>573486072
they did last year
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>>573486158
>another animal OC
yawn who cares
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>>573486158
BLAZS JOBBES
SILVER WILL BE THE HERO
or who am I kidding, Dapple will carry this team
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>>573486158
Covers always lie. I can already anticipate Silver is going to be an UWU coward and wimp in this issue because Evan doesn't know how to write him otherwise and instead tries to justify it by saying that she's just emphasizing Silver's lighthearted side
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>>573486150
It's Star Warsfag terminology people were using against other people wanting more Sonic characters in Crossworlds. It's a slur they made up for minor or obscure characters based on Star Wars naming conventions.
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>who eats chicken?
>people who likes fried chicken
what if the chicken is not fried?
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>>573486369
Sonic's gonna show up, inject his cock with chaos energy, rape the bad guy, and then once again say Blaze and Silver are a good pair
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>>573485595
When you see how often this happens, it becomes clear that the "it became their only character trait" criticism for characters like Amy has always been bullshit.
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>>573486680
uwunigger cope
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How come Sonic characters aren't allowed to say minor swears like damn, hell, or ass and has to find ways around saying kill when it wants to be safe edgy but other safe edgy kids franchises like Shrek still can use those words?
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>>573486369
They're not even mentioning the Shadow one-shot and planned series after that...
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>>573483994
>hatred for 06 was astroturfed to hell and back
It’s almost unbelievable.
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>>573486369
i was thinking evan would do uwuver out of spite judging by the covers but lol she might actually be overcompensating this time.

itll be funny
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>>573486158
that fuckass Alota black cat looks more official than this count
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>>573457919
This shit is SO gay
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>>573486369
Blazefags have it worse than Silverfags yet you don't hear them whining as much
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>>573486158
>>573486369
Does anyone even care about these random OCs they keep adding? They are all so forgettable. I already forgot what the point of Lunar even is.
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>oven baked and covered in herbs and spices

>>573487028
Looks like Sephiroth as a Sonic character
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>>573487039
We need to go gayer
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Rebecca Sugar, Adam Muto, Dan Harmon, and Gooseworx should write the comics.
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>>573486038
That literally makes no sense. If anything, Amy is "shackled" to him more now than when her love wasn't shoved into a locker.
And now their interactions are just more sterile because its just them being "okay with eachother" with no special flair.
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>>573487181
>I already forgot what the point of Lunar even is.
how can you
them/they pronouns baiting/representation
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>>573486538
Then Popeyes, KFC and Raising Cane’s will go out of business.
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>>573486158
>>573486369
>male is evil again
So is Dapple female since it's a hero character? Do we know what Dapple looks like?
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>>573457919
Jet's a cuck?
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>>573487368
The uber progressives are shoving her into the closet. Ironic.
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>>573486895
Only way for an IDW Amy comic to be successful is if it has romance between Sonic and Amy because Amy's love for Sonic is her biggest character trait and what drives her to improve herself. Otherwise, there's no point in writing such a comic
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>>573486158
He is actually Sephiroth in mobian form
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>>573487197
Hey (You) are me! No wait i am (You) no wait...
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>>573487181
At least half of the new characters are forgettable. In fact, even both IDW and the games are proving that the earlier a character is established, the higher the chances they will remain popular for a long time
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>>573487371
But Lunar doesn't have they/them pronouns, Lunar has no pronouns. The only reason it's referred to as they/them is due to an error, kek.
This is apparently a real life phenomenon and people appreciate the "representation" so I have to wonder how these people exist in everyday life where pronouns are just a basic foundation of our language.
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>>573486369
>Blackwood the Ermine
Who came up with this name? It has 0 sauce
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>>573486369
>It's a mind control chapter
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>>573441204
There's a difference betwen being lighthearted and being straight up wrangled by any slightly resolute girl he comes across. Or talking to himself with a hand puppet. Look at any game scene with him and tell me that's the same
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>>573487371
>>573487829
point is to be a peggable little faggot
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What did they mean by making Cream in the DC crossover Supergirl, a character known for flirting with older men and canon pedophiles like Hal Jordan?
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>>573487175
They dont care about her character. The fact she is paired with Silver is enough to make them sperg.
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>>573488163
Later on in the future Cream is gonna start flirting with older men
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>>573487791
>pic
Oh wow, new Sonic characters actually do suck.
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>>573487598
They hate that Amy heterosexual is heterosexual and girly because their ultra progressive college/university professors told them that heterosexuality and femininity in females perpetuate oppression
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>>573487426
Probably a dalmatian
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>>573487791
>>573488393
These characters are unpopular because they're badly written not because they're new
If your hypothesis was right then everyone would be begging for Lumina and Void to come back
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>>573487642
I believe Amy can carry a comic on her own but I do agree that its probably time for a dedicated Sonic and Amy team up comic now.
We had Amy and the girls in Trial By Fire already and she was great there.

We've seen Amy in enough stuff that doesnt have to do with Sonic. I want a dedicated team up story between them now.

Maybe bring Cream along for funsies
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>>573487791
>only one of these characters is a humanoid
I'm so sick of blobianslop. Human supremacy NOW.
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>>573488681
Kill yourself humanfag. This is a furry franchise
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>>573488681
The IDW staff hate humans and are getting promoted in the company. It's over.
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>>573488681
Victoria, Kitsch, and Edna
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>>573483749
Okay, I had had my doubts, but giving the spaghetti-spilled damage-control, it's real.
These fuckers are too ingrained in social media to stonewall criticism like Nintendo does.
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>>573488557
If the quality of the writing was what mattered, Surge wouldn't be so popular.
Characters are carried by base concept and how much people perceive them to be skilled a lot of the time.
Many normie Amyfags only really like her because she is the main girl character.
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>>573488653 (me)
Actually nah, leave a Cream out.
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>>573488789
Humans in Sonic correlate to when this franchise had SOUL. Cope blobianfag. Sonic should have a human female companion every game. Humans save this franchise.
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>>573486158
Why does cover C have nothing to do with what is going on?
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>>573489165
IDW has nothing to do with Sonic at all anyway, so it fits
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>>573486831
There's no need for Sonic characters to use minor swears. The only reason why Shrek and a few other franchises are allowed to do it because they're controlled and owned by coin clippers whose favorite "comedy" trope is the swearing=funny trope
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>>573489246
kek
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>>573489341
As much as we joke about the damn fourth chaos emerald line, Shadow saying those words besides ass seems natural to him. In-character Silver would probably say damn and hell too.
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>>573488881
When will Soniclarpers ever find love?
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So we agree 06 was good and Mania killed the series?
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>>573489161
HOLY FUARKING BASED!
sonic should have explicit and passionate relations with homosapiens
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>>573489783
yes
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>>573489783
06 and Mania are both good
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>>573489341
Japanese Sonic characters use minor swears actually depending on the character.
Characters like Sonic, Knuckles, Amy, Jet do.
>>573489582
I'd argue it kinda doesn't. It makes him come off as less formal and eloquent. Maybe some minor ones but that like in particular doesnt really fit him.
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>>573489602
cow and chicken was fucking WILD for this episode
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>>573485158
>who watches amy?
No one. There is a "Shadow" brand. There is a "Knuckles" brand. There is a "Tails" brand. There is even a "Robotnik"/"Eggman" brand. There is no one this God's Green Earth an "Amy" brand. It will fucking flop. They lost their chance decades ago to give it the cute "Rosy the Rascal" nickname which Ian spoiled or something else that could've rolled off the tongue to pair with Sonic the Hedgehog. "Amy" needs a "from the the Sonic the Hedgehog series!" subtitle, which will look absolutely PATHETIC. It will be for no one.
And I fucking say this as an Amy fan. Get out of your bubble, retards. You're doing it wrong.
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>>573489904
06 is bad like Heroes and Shadow
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death to blobians
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>>573489783
06 was bad and Mania helped the series.
06 is overhated and Mania is overrated.
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>>573490038
>Cutting Silver and Shadow's limbs
Why
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>>573488653
>>573489105
There needs to bona fide romance between Sonic and Amy in that comic, not mere ship teasing but of course, Sonic Team is too cowardly, stubborn, and moronic to allow it because they don't want to step out of their comfort zone
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>>573490137
Westshit didn't help the series
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What if a Sonic 06 defender and Star Wars sequel defender had a baby? Could their combined IQ add up enough to get the baby into the double digits?
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>>573490005
Yeah ive said this before but Amy doesnt really work as a recognizable brand name. I think its telling that in all promotional material they try as much as possible to use her full name, Amy Rose, in a way they simply dont with other characters like Tails or Eggman.

And yeah, it annoys me that Ian ruined Rosy The Rascal by using it for her Moebius counterpart.
People associate it with that instead of her now.
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>>573490190
power play. he's wearing silver's boots and shadow's gloves
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>>573490368
their baby would be non verbal autistic
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>>573490210
JDFrank20...
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>>573490467
He also cut his limbs. Not cool Sonic. They need them back
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>>573490538
Those two wouldn't be able to make something that shuts up.
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>>573486028
100 more issues!
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>>573490646
they're dead soooooo they don't need them now
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>>573486510
>wanting more Sonic characters in Crossworlds
All of the main characters are here. You literally have nothing but Glup Shittos left. Or characters that canonically would have fucking nothing to do with this, like some faggot wanting Infinite last time we talked about this as if his as A) wasn't dead until a few months ago and B) would participate in a friendly kart race with any of these people.
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>>573490929
Nah. Just sleeping
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>>573489165
I saw two other covers on Twitter that are just using the issue 91 to put "1991" on the cover and also have nothing to do with it.
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Blackwood looks a lot like Knuckles
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>>573491098
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>>573490005
>There is a "Knuckles" brand.
>"Amy" needs a "from the the Sonic the Hedgehog series!" subtitle, which will look absolutely PATHETIC.
So about that.
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>>573491098
>>573491302
I was about to ask why Scratch and Grounder look like that. Cool that these online comic continuations are still going.
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>>573491302
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>>573490005
Their longterm goal has always been to kill Amy and convince Sega to supplant her with Sally.
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>>573491504
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>>573486369
>>573488097
I'd have 2 nickles by now
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What is the appeal of Sonic other than the gameplay?
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>>573491360
>this has a blu ray too
SatAM is never getting a blu ray lmao.
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>>573491753
I'm not complaining
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>>573491360
That's a tagline, not a subtitle.
How many Knuckleses are there? How many Amys are there?
There's your answer.
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>>573491302
Make it stop...
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>>573491753
>Tails' face
Why is ABT such a fucking hack lmao
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>>573491916
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>>573491302
Did they finished the canceled comic? Kinda interested. Mega Drivers, too? Link?
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>>573492189
Weird perspective thats all
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>>573491916
the characters and stories
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>>573492283
>Did they finished the canceled comic?
The comic is still going the previews im showing here are proof of that.
https://x.com/Sonic_Online/status/2075253337864184281
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>>573491715
>Why am I selling phones? I thought kids watched this?
Woah. Sonic is based and against the awful modern world where we need to give kids unrestricted internet access and phones while mass censoring the world to give the world government more con- I mean to protect the kids.
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>>573492416
>Did someone say Sonic Restored #293 Preciew Pages? No? Well here you go anyways!!!
Why do internetbaby attentionwhores always have this infantile manner of speaking?
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>>573492396
>4 gentlemen
>All want to rape you
Average woman fanfic
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>>573492416
Was an actual script for this leaked or are they making stuff up based on what we already know? It's cool regardless, I'm just wondering.
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>No one gives a fuck about the Discord screenshot
>All the lore team has to do is just pretend not to see it.
I told you faggot but as always you think yourself more important than you actually are.
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>>573492416
>just noticed Jax in the background from the comments
Oh god, I still can't stop laughing from what happened to that guy.
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>>573486369
> Brainwashed Blaze
Blazebros we can't catch a break
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>>573493053
>All the lore team has to do is just pretend not to see it.
If only they were capable of doing that.
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>>573493053
What discord screenshot?
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>>573489987
When have Amy and Jet used minor swears?
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>>573493170
Sounds more interesting than the last 3 years of IDW desu
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>>573493371
>What discord screenshot?
I think he's talking about the 'lore team' one where there was a guy talking about rewriting amy entire backstory.
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baby rabbits...
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>>573490550
I don't see how JDFrank20 is wrong
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I'm beginning to come to terms with the fact that most of the Sonic fandom these days genuinely do not like the franchise in any aspect. This IP is cooked once the movies start flopping.
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>>573493371
>>573493575
This screenshot
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Tails!
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>>573493584
Shut the fuck up you obese wolf.

OBESE and LESBIAN
Ugly obese lesbian...
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>>573491715
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Oh and hello /sthg/
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>>573493615
Newgens like this franchise but only when it's something it's not. They are actively destroying Sonic. They want us dead.
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Who the fuck reported the KrysTails drawfag? I have personal fucking beef with you.
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>>573493615
The first movie probably saved Sonic honestly. The series was in a bad drought after Forces and things weren't looking up. Things aren't looking that great until the next movie drops too. The comics just continue to get worse and the spinoff games are just an excuse to advertise anything that isn't Sonic.
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>>573493770
Interesting. Why did he edit his messages? I don't follow Sonic drama
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>>573493615
>This IP is cooked once the movies start flopping.
Sega is going to find this out the hard way that it's not a good idea to turn your video game franchise into a movie-based franchise if you want success in the long run
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>>573494109
Dunno what you're talking about but these boys are too cute
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>>573494292
We had a kind anon deliver for us last night.
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>>573493170
Blaze the who?
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>>573494185
I think he edited them because he expected a lot of backlash against Sega of America. The lore team needs to be held accountable for all of this
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Nine would never have sex
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>>573494562
Honey is going to make sure that's not true. With or against his will.
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>>573494495
>Blaze the Cat series
first comic to sell -10k copies
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>>573494485
How did i miss this gem?
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>>573494649
A mod deleted it, can you believe this shit?
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>>573494634
Honey is locked in a vault within a vault within a vault in an abandoned AM2 warehouse never to be mentioned again.
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>>573494485
Not sure who's teasing who here but nice
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>>573494748
What a tranny faggot, he leaves futa porn up for hours and deletes /ss/ kino
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>>573494649
Some faggot reported it and an even bigger faggot mod deleted it.
https://files.catbox.moe/idvgyg.png
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Tailspedo shows up again.
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Goooo Tailschads!
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>>573494970
MOMMA FOXA
THE PERFECT BODYPILLOW
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I miss the golden age of namefaggotry...
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>>573494829
Tails wishes he was as powerful as Ralsei
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>>573495376
Tripfags were always cancer.
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>>573495376
This place has never had a golden age of namefags.
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>>573495416
I stopped following Deltarune some years ago, though I still think Ralsei is cute
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>>573495376
you weren't missing anything
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>>573495439
Not that, those are complete fags, I don't miss them
>>573495507
A few years ago when every namefag was flinging shit at each other openly.
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>>573485698
>says as he posts a relic from the 90s
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Never played or engaged with autistic troon magnets line undertale a d deltatroon. In fact i think talking about it at all is a self reveal that the person talking about it is either underaged, an autistic troon or both.
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Furfags are horny for Big Blackwood Cock. It's over for Silvaze
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Still waiting for the renaissance of namefags
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https://x.com/Eclipse_cAnon/status/2075175023388586467
1.3k and climbing
uh oh loreteamsisters
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>>573495637
I love relics from the 90s and the bad girls too.
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>>573495621
You mean back when AWF was trying to use us as his personal army, Krack and Vlad were making TDOSTH with LC-kun and Nibroc's help and a few others meanwhile Slashy and Moviesperg were having emotional crash outs on here on a literal daily basis?

Yea fuck that, no that was probably the worst this place has ever gotten.
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I love Tails!
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>>573495970
What a coincidence!
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>>573494854
What's s.s. stand for? steamship?
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>>573493591
He (You) are deranged and need help
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>>573496074
Hi! <3
How are boys so amazing?
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>>573495737
Literally who?
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Remember when tailsfags used to have hobbies and careers similar to the character they avatarfag for? Me too.
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>>573496263
why do you keep reposting this? are you jealous of tailsfags? tailsfags of all people?
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>>573495956
Nice self reveal blzy. You're the only one who knew all that and is still mad about it. Kys fag.
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>>573496167
Because yes
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>>573487693
Oh no
Hes hot!
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>>573495737
I wonder how Katie is going to try to do damage control for this. I'm hoping this ends really badly for the lore team
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>>573496160
Hitler's Schutzstaffel.
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>>573496263
I've studied programming as a hobby in the past. Maybe doing hardware stuff would be interesting too, but I don't have the means for now

>>573496390
:)
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IT'S A LIE AIIIIEEEE TAILSCHANNEL-SAMA DO NOT BETRAY ME
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>>573495737
>>573496429
Nothing will happend krack
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>>573496360
Who in their right mind would be jealous of incest? Only a crazed slack jawed nigger would do that, let alone boast about it.
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>>573495956
Jesus christ dude. Move on with your life. How are you still angry over a shitpost from over 5 fucking years ago?
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it may end with amy being downgraded to chaotix tier as revealed to me in a dream. since amy doesn't really add anything to the plot and her fandom is small yet noisy
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>>573496163
I'm not JDFrank20 but he's right
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>why are tailsfags doing this why are tailsfags doing that why are tailsfags tails tails tails tails
It's time to draw anon.
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>>573496487
so now they're just lying wow
they are willing to lie to destroy amy
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>>573496487
>the spread of 4chan in the Sonic community
lol what does this even mean

>>573496665
Tailshaters are so mindbroken
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>>573496474
I don't understand why the moron keeps bringing it up
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>>573496263
That was a reposted anecdote from someone who wasn't a tailsfag, we went over this.
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>>573496665
But I’m not a tailsfag so I can’t draw Tails incest child porn.
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250827626837725 foxes
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>>573496515
I'm not Krack but I want Katie to be fired. I can imagine her complaining and saying, "Wahhhh! I just wanted Amy to have le whimsy for Shadow UWU! I'm literally Amy!"
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>>573496719
Someone mentioned that he's happily married to his wife alongside a funny anecdote about sharing a greatgreatgrandparent that no one knew about and he's been seething at it since lol
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Get a life Tailshater. You weirdo loser

>>573496858
Yes!
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>>573496909
Who said they were married?
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>>573496889
>Wahhhh! I just wanted Amy to have le whimsy for Shadow UWU! I'm literally Amy!
Amy has spoken. and she said she wants Shadow now
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So the screenshots are fake. Like 100% fake. Just saw the supposed leakers' screenshot of the same conversation. Someone edited a 5 sentence long discussion using inspect element on a web browser.

Krack just got manipulated into pushing out faked and false evidenced.

HAHA dumb bitch never fucking learns.
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Whatever you do, avoid inbreeding.

Fuck a cat instead.
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>>573496889
Do you realize that Sega wants this too, it's over.
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When will twitterniggers fuck off?
You don't like sonic
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Speaking of cousin memes, I need to catch up on that Tails world of text story, yesterday I got up to the part where Tails promised Honey the photoshoots

>>573497006
Iirc the first post said it was his wife, maybe I'm misremembering and it was just girlfriend
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No fucking shit it's fake. Why would someone risk their career and job for...idk sonamy debates? That's why I kept asking for proof it was real.
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>>573497023
I thought she was the one in the conversation in the first place.
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>>573497202
And Shadria debates, as if anyone gives a shit about that ship.
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Tailsfags need to stop sharing their incest fantasies. No one is asking for that shit.
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>>573497050
I'm trying to, but the story's at crazy Fleetway Sally right now.
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I got some ingredients for archie's chillodog recipe. time to cook
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>>573496487
>>573496695
They just got the rude awakening they deserved

>>573496718
>What doe this even mean?
They're afraid of the Sonic fandom being rightfully taken by the CHUDS, which means the fandom won't be able to be a pozzed safe space anymore
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>>573497023
The screenshots where SoA was deliberately changing stuff?
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>>573496487
he;s just lying to save his skin and to still work with tailschannel
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Amy wanting Sonic dick is immutable, I don't know why you guys care about that, it's one of the things these guys are not going to change no matter what.
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>>573497006
Alright I checked, he didn't say married, just that they didn't break up over it
>We didn't break up. We couldn't. We decided it's distant enough we don't care.
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Y-Y-YOU ONLY THINK ABOUT FOXES!

FOXES IS ALL YOU CAN THINK OF F-F-F-FOXES! BUT NEVER ABOUT MY NEOVAGINA NOOOOOOOOOOOO WHO CARES ABOUT JAX'S NEOVAGINA?!?? AH AH AH NOT ME!
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>>573497108
Why would Sega want Katie to be fired?
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>they have the confimation in the catbox but no one's gonna dig into that and just call you a fag or a nazi
You don't hate Sonicfags enough
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>>573497430
Yes >>573496487
The guy who supposedly sent those messages said he didn't
I do think there is some truth to it though, not the fake made up messages, but there are people at SoA who change things
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>>573497664
lol that's not going to happen
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>>573497736
He's just lying
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>>573497559
Time to put the bottle down.
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Foxes are the only thing that fill my autistic brain.
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>>573497693
?
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>normalfags are gonna visit this thread and find that nine shota drawing
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>>573497825
ywnfym
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>>573497736
Oh

Yeah that always looked fishy. Guess my original hypothesis of SoJ being aware was correct
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Holy sonamybestie melty. It was never canon give up.
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Let's apply Occam's Razor here. Which sounds easier to explain?
A SEGA employee leaking shit he should otherwise have no information or access to because he thinks some people he doesn't directly work with are trying to kill Sonamy.
Or.
The known crazy, autistic, BPD bitch who has been caught lying and making up fake screenshots at least a dozen times made a fake screenshot and is lying.
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>>573497892
>normalfags when they find chroniclesfag game
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>>573497759
Tails is a beautiful star

>>573497892
Good, they should stay away from here

>>573497954
Yeah, I think SoJ is aware too. Maybe not everyone at SoJ (or even SoA for that matter) but I get the feeling that SoJ generally trusts SoA to make changes that the west would find appealing (whether that's actually true or not). This matches with what Kishimoto said about the Frontiers scripts, he trusted Ian's script to be a success in the west but still made his own version
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>>573498115
krack faked screenshots in the past?
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>>573498115
I'm tired
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>>573497892
They already found it.
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>>573498152 (Me)
>Maybe not everyone at SoJ
*Maybe not everyone at SoJ likes the changes
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Let's scare all the newfags away with /ss/ kino
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>>573497616
Isn’t 4chan known to harbor a femboy grooming cult?
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>>573498264
Proof?
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>>573498115
Sega employee, because they're unprofessional and leak shit all the time.
>BUT MUH KEKAM'S RAZOR
Only works in the realm of rationalism and not empirism.
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newfags aren't gonna samefaggin so let them in
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Tails cucked Fox McCloud
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You faggots would write just as bad as Flynn & Evan if you were given the reins.
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I dont want this place flooded with autistic Twitter cretins. Cant we just kill them or something?
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>>573498463
Furries are infamous for always going for foxes. You think people aren’t aware of what kind of fanart Tails gets?
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>>573498607
we already are
50% of images are Xitter screencaps
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>>573498537
I wouldn't write yurislop though, i would stick with another kind of autism.
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>>573498152
>I get the feeling that SoJ generally trusts SoA to make changes that the west would find appealing (whether that's actually true or not). This matches with what Kishimoto said about the Frontiers scripts, he trusted Ian's script to be a success in the west but still made his own version
What a bunch of gullible morons Sonic Team is to trust SOA
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>>573498646
I know, we should beat then with a baseball bat.
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Tails is cute and attractive
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>>573498792
^-^
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>>573496607
Lies
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>>573498872
>>573498872
>>573498872
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just got here, wtf happened
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>>573496586
You're trolling but ill humor you.
Her being the token girl is keeping her alfoat no matter what.
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>>573497318
I'm pretty sure we identified it as a different person right from the start because they were already making cryptic tweets about if they had some damning info and leaked it or whatever. The only people who said it was Krack were the people who think everyone here is Krack.
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>>573500168
Oh, yeah, I remember those posts. From the messages I thought it was Krack though, based on the things they were saying, like the focus on Shadria. Maybe whoever made it wanted us to make the association. Or Krack is gullible and got tricked into a chatting with an impersonator by that anon kek
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It isn't Krack, it's that one Surgefag
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>>573498537
I would probably crash an airplane if given the controls but that doesn't make the current pilot is any good.



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