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Previous thread: >>572827124
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>>573492359
>>573492465
>Evil doers
>when the OP is an evil bitch
REAL big miss for not letting her alt skill hit the same enemy though.
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ninja supremacy
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M'lady *teleports behind you*
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>>573492601
>when the OP is an evil bitch
Nah. I 'm part of the anti-bad-guy squad so you can't refute anything I say or else you are a bad guy.
Meow.
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>>573492682
me as the cyclops
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>>573492359
>Blade of eternal Darkness
damn didnt know rinne was like that
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>>573492682
>kunai in cqc
is she stupid
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Mega folder for manga
https://mega.nz/folder/Q0N1jT7J#uHQrWvnKK89Up4_-y8dZcA
Updated file naming scheme into 00x and uploaded all chapters I ripped but forgot to upload, including new ones.
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Good women won bigly
Evil women lost
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>>573495103
Wrong
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>>573494104
thank ye for the fishmen porn
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>>573494104
What's the name of the OC girl that appears in chapter 6?
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Idk if I got lucky rolling this character but she's kinda hard carrying my party so far
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>>573508969
debra is a nice early game carry because she restores her own sp
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>so suddenly 8gb update
Fuck off
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I shall not do any new nyontent until that damnable wolf is dead
See you 2028
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>>573486570
Your stats are randomly chosen from 10 templates, the quiz only determines your alignment. You actually got the highest IQ template there is

>>573492252
I disagree. Anyone can shitpost a collab with a dead game, it takes a real madman to actually do it.
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>>573512596
is there a way to see what template you have at higher levels?
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New Rinne any good for a new player that didn't get her yet from Adv Remains II? She would be replacing Debra as my main chest opener.

Also I'm still a bit lost on how merging and disciplines work. I understand that by merging you can use both styles of that character and they keep the same levels, skills, etc. But why is it typically people recommend you to pull two copies of a character?
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>>573513191
>But why is it typically people recommend you to pull two copies of a character?
At D1 it unlocks the gains from both style's Disciplines stacked up
Say you have a D6 Yek and you only have one copy of the new style, that means when you merge switch to the new style you'll be D0, womp womp
But if you Discipline the new style once, on either style you'll be D6 with a bit towards D7
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Reminder they added legendary bone 2 to the guild point shop.
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>even new voice lines when resting at the inn
SOUL
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>>573514117
need to see the price of the mission pass to know if it's worth it
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>>573514117
But they also added 3 more adv bones, so it's still never worth getting even if you're overflowing with guild points somehow
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>>573514240
>also new lines when almost failing to open chests
Holy hell, no wonder there's 8 gig of stuff
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>>573514240
I hope they let us zoom in in the inn without level ups.
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>>573514646
It's for mission pass holders.
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>>573514240
>>573515602
FPS and other wind-up attacks have new lines too.
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What should have been alt Rinne skill/discipline?
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>>573524765
>Inherit
A single target dagger throw. Slightly stronger than DTS, ignores range, dagger/kunai only.

>Personal skill
Always increases surety with daggers. Skills with daggers can crit on turn 1.

>discipline
Evasion+surety. Aspd+surety if they had to nerf her base discipline.
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>>573524765
Water dragon jutsu
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>>573492359
I'm probably going to alter the aspd into eva on mine, going to have a ring for w/e I feel like trying to eva max savia
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>>573525967
With FAS+Enhancement on mine it ended up giving +20 ASPD which I feel is quite a lot.
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>>573529098
I agree that it is a lot, I'm just not sure a thief is a character I need more aspd on
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sheli where is your banner...i need your passive on my main team...
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Kill Lanavaille
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Nyo, pet Lana.
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>Reverse Rinne bone
>It's a legendary
>Gerulf
JD is laughing at me
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there's a footpad in the thief trial....
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Where the fuck is it????
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>>573530158
You might not... now.
If the whale cave is anything to go by, ASPD seems like a safe future investment.
What if monsters in Abyss 5 are extremely fast?
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>>573544281
genuine question
what can the thief do if they're the only one who goes first? I mean, they're unlikely to do enough damage to matter in 1 turn, and the support/debuff/cc they can dole out isn't that insane...
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>>573544553
Nothing... mostly, but he was talking about Savia specifically. Setting up BBF before the enemy takes their turn is pretty desireable, I would say.
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How much eva is needed for a4? I haven't stacked since pre-2h buff
>>573544281
we will have to see, I am not personally placing my bets on thief meta, most of my team are bf or (bf)ninjas anyway so they have solid aspd to start with
>>573544553
use delay attack on a mob that does aoe, assuming they can't kill it, if thieves go up in value I'd place bets on milana, a thief with access to a row dispel can come in handy and who knows what else mage might give her in the future
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>>573545120
>A4
>Evasion
lol
lmao
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>>573545341
Surprisingly, my Lin with inherited BBF sitting in the back line is dodging quite spectacularly and I didn't particulary evamaxx her at all. She was pretty MVP for my wolf boss experience
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>>573545120
That's enough for A4.
That's enough for the superbosses that don't just spam AoEs too.
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Post your best Shiou pic please
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abyss 5
weapons are confiscated and only daggers are allowed as weapons
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>>573524765
A single target nuke. That's it, that's all she needed.
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>>573546823
Why would they let you have daggers?

Obviously you'll be arrested, thrown in prison and stay there for a hundred years, meditating until you unlock the monk class.
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>>573547020
Pretty much. Ninjers struggle to nuke ST and she already has a good line clear.
They gave her hue but ass
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>>573547050
everything is 10x susceptible to crits and ninjers crit extra hard with bare hands
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>>573459945
any knowers?
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>>573548501
He's a Samurai you can Discipline there's not that many like him in the game
If you like his design you can use him just fine
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I feel like the Yuzu of Samurais has to drop eventually
Not touching the class until it does
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>>573548501
He isn't amazing, but useable probably.
He's very slow and his cc is mid.

Using him means you're giving up copies of one of the best inherits in the game too. For sams idk get shiou/gill or run MC if you can
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>>573549295
NTA but Is DTS really that good? What classes really need it and how does it compare to just HA
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>>573549409
DTS is literally HA but better in every way. A single lvl 1 DTS is already HA3 tier iirc. Anyone you would inherit HA to cope attack with like thieves or something you just swap to DTS now
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>>573549520
What about DTS3? It didnt seem to hit much harder
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>>573549659
it hits good enough for me. Obviously not as powerful as the best nukes, but it's the flexible on demand attack option. I guess the SP drain is a little rough to spam
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>>573549273
it was supposed to be iarumas...
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>>573549950
and he was, for a time before fighters got their 2h buff.
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>>573549273
thats literally the mc
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>>573549520
erm ackhstually
dts is more like HA 2.5
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wow, critical poison actually had a use. nice work JD.
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>>573551512
I like to make any boss that moves more than they should get hit by bleed + CP from the thief. They gotta do SOMEthing
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>>573551618
Yeah, the DOTs get a lot of hate but when shit moves 4 times in a row it gets hit 4 times in a row. That extra damage adds up over the course of a boss fight.
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flut is trying her best as a fighter...
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>>573551512
It's uncharacteristically generous of JD to have poison applied by an attack that also does damage and have an indefinite duration.
I think poison is slept on, honestly.
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Keep thief ring as is or alter the eva%?
Also if I FAS after alter does it change the stat? Should I FAS first and then alter?
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>>573554735
FAS first, class ring stats don't change
it's up to you what you alter, you can go triple Eva lines for characters like savia/debra/knights, go double Sur, double ASPD, or even change it to ATK. all are good choices.
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>>573554939
>knights
knights can't equip it. nice for thief savia and thief dancer debra though
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almost 2k junk after 3 days of lightcore farming, ship2 is actually so insane
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>>573558692
it's very outdated i could get no upgrades from there even if i got perfect rolls
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when will we get a rerun of the double legendary event?
onegai
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>finally do runback for true end fight A4
>hear the new boss theme
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>>573563971
The true end GWO music now is great.
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did they fix the red oni's dogshit theme?
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am I tripping or is the liv ai
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I can’t tell if JD is based for sticking close to the same mechanical theme/identity for alts or not.
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>>573570428
u trippin
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Does higher levels of Attract Hit make it more likely to be targeted?
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Is there a gimmick for the thief trial?
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>>573573318
>open however many chests is needed
>final chest at the end of a trial is always a mimic
>advanced trial mimic can only be killed using poison
That's it, its pretty easy.
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>>573570783
???
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>>573570783
yeah the alts are like that, therefore bu transitive property, yuzu is gonna get another passive/active combo that obliterates everything
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>>573570783
It's a waste is what it is.
You can choose variants from an entirely different universe, with a divergent history and all the downstream effects that entails. Yet you chose basically the same person, but with a wardrobe change, a shitty haircut, and a couple skills that are basically the same.
Not worth the 6+ months spent waiting, doubly so if you also have the misfortune of needing to spend most of the gems you scraped together during that time.
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Is it big brain to inherit this mist attack to Kagero? MOF isn't super great with ninjato.
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if parallel break was better then the ailment damage skill thief has would be so much better
did any nip autist ever test the scaling on that skill anyways
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>>573575786
it's less damage just like mof.
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>>573562050
At this point just wait for Adventurer's Remains III
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>>573570783
lemme give you a scrappy review on the alts:

>Lana
ehh, it incentivise to use sword and shield, but basically the same as base
>Adam
gives the possibility to do more damage in exchange of mana reduction, but has to jump through hoops to get it
>Alice
exchanging damage for survivability, pretty fair alt
>Debra
slut debra is a straight up upgrade
>Gerard
who?
>Livana
alt is better when fighting Fire type enemies, but pretty equal
>Benis
base is just for the Magical beast slayer, otherwise the alt is a straight upgrade
>Shiou
the alt changes to "want to be attacked" to "don't want to be attacked" even tho Veiled Moon hits like a truck at low health
>Savia
her alt doesn't force you to use spears, becomes a decent DPS as a Thief
>Rinne
wants you to go Daggers, but is kinda meh

feel free to shit on me
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>>573577674
At this point most, if not all complaints on the game come from aesthetic failure.
Powercreep would make the game less boring if anything.
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https://x.com/BISCO_000/status/2075197010773512687?s=20 For jelly if people don't have the bondmate maxxed.
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>get Rinne alt
>Threefold does more damage then MoF
>alt also gets more surety and allows skills to crit
I pulled, I enjoy, not every character is supposed to be a boss killer.
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>>573578735
ehhh, aesthetically speaking, i give it a 5.5/10, some of them are neat, but also could have been much better
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>>573577674
Lana alt is a straight upgrade, might not be a huge upgrade but its just flat out better, no reason not to use it unless you like her dorky boy hair (fair)
Base adam mana reduction becomes less relevant once you reach late game where most damage spells exceed 10mp cost, and Alt adam will only get better as we get more light frontlines.
Liv Alt is superior because of surety disc, base is only marginally better if merged and at no/low disc since the base unique gives surety instead
Base benis is also preferable on confuse/charm heavy fights when not using a healer (though you probably would)
Other than that mostly agree
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A5 status?
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>>573579624
Can threefold kill slimes or stonefolk?
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>>573581269
I ate it.
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>>573581371
>slimes
Yes with a ninjato and a sure hit
>stonefolk
It will still deal damage but not a one turn kill.
If you can get crazy high surety I think that's when the new Rinne starts to shine, its a bit much to ask for but I still like her.
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The girl in the Thief Trial has a goated design.
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Around elves, watch yourselves.
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I've been having trouble getting the Catacombs bone to reappear and the Knight's Cloak to not turn to dust from Guarda. It's been 40 days, and I just got Tome of the Shiledbearer without problems, but those 2 items simply don't respawn. Am I missing something? I've been resetting and changing the route constantly to see if anything works, but nothing so far has gotten them to spawn.
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>>573577674
Fuck the meta, aesthetic rank:

>S (Way better than og design)
Livana, Alice

>A (Improvement but ogs have their charm)
Lana, Benis, Debra

>B (equal or slightly inferior)
Adam, Gerard, Savia

>C (shit tier)
Shiou, Rinne
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>>573589490
Eh i think alt benis at B tier and gerard is actually better because he stops looking like a OCdonutsteal
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>>573589920
I'm adding Lana to C tier since Knight Lana actually looks amazing and wana looks like random slut wearing a dress.
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>>573589920
One thing that could have done is the alt gains something if they have the quest done

i hate that Agora goes back to be Alice if i change style, and Benis loses her SSS Sayan hairline
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>>573577674
They’re still the same mechanical identity and focus.
Benis is still out of turn attacks.
Shiou is still one time only nukes.
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can wait for gilliom's alt in which he kills himself to do less than mof in a column
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>>573595802
>tfw my Shiou's Ichimonji Slash does more damage than Cope of Ruin
Is there a more cucked character in this game than Gillion?
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>pull Alice alts to get rid of my useless LCK boon
>get 3 Alice alts in my 100+ pull run
>all 3 Alice alts are also LCK
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>>573596962
Yoizou.
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>>573597010
LCK is the second best boon for Alice, unless you're a no defensive inheritcel.
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>>573598652
I have the inherits on everyone but I haven't noticed a difference between her procs and my lucklets procs
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>>573597126
yoizou might be more unpopular than the male dwarves
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>>573602990
If he had any mechanical niche at all he’d be fine.
He’s basically worse than Bugen.
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>>573603148
Taking 4 turns to build up a spread attack is awful.
I think he would be fine if his personal skill could be used without the fire enchantment. That way he could use it on any class and 1 turn sooner.
Maybe samurai will eventually get an auto-enchant that carries over on CC.
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pale elf anus
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>>573603610
It doesn’t help that elemental weakness is a complete non-factor in 99% of fights.
Plus “difficult” fights that aren’t GWO or Superboss level also barely last 4 rounds too so that makes it even worse.
It would basically need to be AoE DTS from the first usage and scaling up from there to be even worth thinking about using.
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>>573589490
>livana
Blind. Her og design is good and her alt is good. I havent pulled alt even though i main team her because og looks amazing compared to a lot of other characters that desperately need an alt looks upgrade
>benis
Alt looks phoned in compared to og objectively
>>573590124
>random slut wearing a dress.
This is a actually a pro and if rinne alt was like this JD would actually make real money
>>573602990
Wrong because liking dwarves is for manlets
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Remember to do your monthly bounties
https://streamable.com/7htrj6
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I don't understand how Merge bonuses work
If I merge my alt Livana to my main Livana the main one gets +3 Dex and +1 Lck but if I do the reverse the alt gets +6 to all stats
Also does the alt inherit all the skills from both classes as well?
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>>573615219
It’s because the displayed bonuses scale up based on level for the raw stats, but they average out all of the bonuses you’d get anyway even if you leveled the alt up to the cap.
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>>573615219
>the alt gets +6 to all stats
That is just unlocking the 5 grade up exams on the ungraded alt. If you level it to 10-20 you will start to see some bonus stats from the merge.
>Also does the alt inherit all the skills from both classes as well?
Yes, the merge-receiver gets all level up skills and inherits from the merge-donor
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Why does my map keep resetting on differnt abyss's? It shows it as if it was fully undiscovered and I have OCD so I go through and paint the map everytime. I'm on A4 and A1 only has like 1 squardron showing.
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>>573623964
When you wheel backwards you might get a different map variant. Progress on each variant is saved now so you just need to touch the edge of the hidden square to get your auto-map back.
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>>573611906
I'm just very slightly disappointed with alt Liv since it feels kind of plain compared to base Liv. Alt Lana and Adam are cool since their clothes look more practical for adventuring in, whereas base Liv already had an 'adventurer' look.
Alt Liv is pure sex though, no denying that, just that she feels just a bit out of place. Just hope the game stays alive long enough for some chars to get 3rd alts, I wanna see a more rugged valkyrie/viking/barbarian liv with like tattoos and scars, more fanservice but also more believable in the Wizardry setting.
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>>573628636
If they had given liv a bandana or a pirate hat she'd rock the slutty pirate look pretty well. Still im far more dissapointing in Rinne's muted colors edgeslop and Savia's 'this doesnt even feel like its the same character' look
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>>573579624
I think the new rinne alt looks pretty cool
unfortunately I don't use rinne
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So delicious!
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>>573507627
Irma
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Holy fuck, Rinne's voice is genuinely terrible. Never heard it before until just now when clicking Featured.
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>>573629421
I really hope we'll get an option to use any appearance available to the character regardless of class/version.
Original knight Savia is 10/10 best gacha character ever conceived, but thief Savia and alt Savia are really horrible to the extent that I refuse to use them despite the mechanical advantages over base Savia.
I want alt Savia's passive with base Savia's model.
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>>573632252
Japanise Rinne at least is tolerable, english seriously the worst voice acting i ever heard, is like a chain smoking granny whit no will to live.
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>>573636484
>a chain smoking granny whit no will to live.
Literally me.
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>>573636484
She's just another stoic battle autist (Benis, Wana, Yekat) but without any charm or humor.
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>>573636484
>chain smoking granny whit no will to live.
This would be amazing but the voice actor is just bad.
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>>573640464
genkai rinner would be something
https://youtu.be/6trgfTRwXSk
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>>573641826
>2018
>that sound quality
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>>573636484
wonder what they were tryna cook with that voice, cause the concept is pretty good
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>finished thief trial
>finished missions
uhhhhh contents?
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>>573643467
you catch all them fish yet?
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>>573643702
n-no
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>>573643756
Kitty is hungry. She demands her 300 fish.
>Inb4 JD makes a 300 fish objective
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>>573644879
That ain't no kitty, that's a fat cat.
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benis
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I'll do the thief trial tomorrow, or maybe next weekend.
Or maybe next month, I don't want to take my thieves out of the rock dispatch mines...
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>>573657190
You can probably clear it with solo wanderer MC. Maybe put a lvl 1 beast-thi in the backline to feed potions.
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>Alignment opposed characters now complain if they're in a party with you alone instead of needing 2+ other members.

My evil wife hates me now :(
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anus
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>>573652093
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>>573669390
The consequences of an unwashed bends...
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Knight mc nyes or nyo?
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>>573670415
mmmmnyo
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>>573670415
Do what you want. Make sure you've got adam inherits and sanctuary's blessing so you don't get one-shot...as often
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Is that a WizardryVariantsDaphne reference?
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Wow thief trials are basically free.
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How many times do I need to redo this fucking gatekeeper fight before I get to complete guarda? Twice now and there seems to be some new stupid court intrigue that kills the Duke every time
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>>573673926
Three times. You have to save the kid and save the duke.

Saving the kid (good ending) is bullshit You do exactly the same fucking thing but tell the trainer you know what to get and then only get 5 of each thing
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>>573612912
What stats is your Debra rocking? Mine Guardian Blows for like 2k on crit and almost never crits despite having like 80 Surety...
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>>573674113
I didn't check the spoiler but thanks. I'll muscle through.
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havent played the game since shortly after the steam release since I gave up on it. What have I been missing? Any spicy drama?
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>>573678053
nyo
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just got this and really like the outfit
is this everdistant summershade version of her better than her base form? its kinda hard to tell i'm still new to the game
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>>573679801
She's good because she's REALLY fucking fat, which fixes one of mages' worst weaknesseses. But she does lose the undead slayer passive.
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>>573680605
should i merge my base yekaterina into her everdistant version?
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>>573680934
yes, you should KINDA always do that. They will keep the power and skills of both versions, and swap between them on demand, and you get to use total dupe level (with some caveats)

But if you're not in a rush I think you should wait until someone can tell you how to do it right. It's been a while since I did a merge so I can't remember much. There are some things like picking the correct base to merge into (the alt or the base).
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>>573680605
>REALLY fucking fat
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If I swap Thief of Silent Night Milana to mage, does she lose her cute little alternate outfit and don the generic mage clothing set instead?
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>>573681906
Nah the alt model overwrites the base one so she would still look like a grape picking peasant girl regardless of class
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>>573681659
FVARKKKKKK MARRIED WOMEN SYEXOOOOOO
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>>573681659
dean POV
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>waiting for content has caused you to go schizo and start making your own content
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>>573678053
The drama is we are all in danger of dying of boredom, there was tapjoy for a bit but thats over, anniversary needs to come with abyss 5 to maintain interest, but knowing JD, the ff collab will take most resources for a shitty 3 floor dungeon we are expected to farm for a month.
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I still need to beat abyss 4
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I still need to beat Abyss 2...
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What's the cooldown on the "gone for 30 days" return bonus?
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>>573674369
620/275 defenses with 113 surety and 102 aspd. Gold maiden passive, wotw1, wott2 (from theif trials), and Lana synergy
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>>573691663
0 iirc
technically you still need a week or two to get all the rewards first
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>>573687692
Godefroi is probably my favorite GWO fight by far.
So get to it.
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benis
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>>573679801
her womb was used so many times....
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>>573696183
Damn..
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anygwo know what the inherited damage of alt rinne's skill is vs base damage?
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Is there a chance that next week there's a new adventurer
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>>573705179
With Drecom anything is possible
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>>573678053
I think they guy that posts "Benis" constantly, killed some of the kotposters
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>>573705894
benis beat buttholes...
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>>573704937
usually a 30% loss on inherited skills
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LETS GO!
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>>573707175
20 rolls of adv2 bones, 2 legos and an alt
I'm on fire today
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>>573705894
Kotposters admitted to not even clearing A3 however, so good riddance.
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>>573707548
and a debra / gerulf from the rinne alt bones, not who I wanted but I am unmatched today
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just bought class change tixs for 2 bricks I'll probably never use again who's on my bench because drycum hasn't released good JCs
damn you JD
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>final slop in august
>dead month in september
>abyss 5 in october(?)
we aren't getting any more abysses than 1/year aren't we
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>>573709419
>Exchanging before the final Sunday
You'll get a dupe this week.
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>>573705894
Nyooo...
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>>573712960
Everything is already a dupe
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>>573714001
It wouldn't be all dupes if JD released more than a single CC since the last CC pass.
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one bounty cycops a day keeps the end of the month bounty medal grind dread away
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>>573686050
we will make our own wizardry and it will have hookers
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Nice color choice.
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Why is there even a fountain in the thief trial?
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>>573711853
>final fantasy part 1 august
>final fantasy part 2 september
>anniversary october
>no nyontent november
>christmas elf december
Sorry gwo the schedule is full, A5 will be coming in 2027.
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>>573643467
Did you do your 11 rounds of Nero, or Basalmo?
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I forgot that Iris was still in rockhome after the true end.
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am i the only one who sometimes pretends he is a daphne ninja irl and attacks the air 6 times like im dual wielding raven daggers?
sometimes when im really mad i attack the air 7 times (I just pretend i got a follow-up attack)
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Cheers, to the easiest thing in this entire game.
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>>573725894
I like swinging alonside bamboo splitter. I also do the malefic wind animation
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I just know they are going to suddenly drop the Big Titty Dark Elf after I go deep on the Final Fantabricks.
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>>573723031
I'm trying to see how far I can go, the opening traps minigame and revive mechanic were surprisingly easy to remake, but I think it's kind of gay the game ends if the mc dies so they also can get revived as long as one party member remains, it wouldn't really be reviving I guess flavor wise itd be an ally gets knocked down and true death happens when your resolve is too low. I always liked games like smt, so will be an interesting exercise.
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benis
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>>573686272
>shitty 3 floor dungeon we are expected to farm for a month
oh god they still do events like that? The fairy one absolute killed my interest in the game after having to do it I think over 10 times?
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>>573679801
I barely recognized her god damn
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I did it for you gwos
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>>573738236
Yeah that's what sucks about this game, the gameplay loop is great, but adding more than one dungeon once a month seems to be beyond them, they did add some endgame content like battle arena and old castle but rather than have them alternate months or something, its been a pretty dry 2-3 months to the point discussion is the slowest its ever been. The anti ai schizos may not even be around anymore.

We did get a fairy recently thought.
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I heard Yeka can be your main chest opener but how much do I need to invest in her to outperform a base Debra or general thief? Currently slogging through Abyss 3.
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>>573742594
Detect wise, not much, Disarm wise, quite a bit
Mage openers are for when you can hit slivers in the minigame effortlessly, unless you want to invest a disproportionate amount into Disarm
I did it for a while but it's tiresome, I don't recommend it
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>>573742594
unless you have godtier reflexes I would pick a more traditional chest opener
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>>573742325
I hope your efforts reward us all
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>>573742325
Good job swo.
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>>573742325
Guards, this man just admitted that he was entirely motivated by financial compensation, and cares not a whit for the noble Duke. Perhaps he even played a part in orchestrating the attack. Take him to the gallows immediately.
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Wheel, reverse this man's genitals.
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I dont like final fantasy but if they give me a cute thief i will go all in because the past drecom banners have been all uglies and the hopes of olivia/amelia alt are dying

>>573742594
I can open A4 chests with yeka naturally high detect like 140ish the problem is disarm is only like 100 (too lazy to farm for disarm gear) so it becomes a reflex test - you can use those numbers to see how much disarm gear you need to plan for yourself
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So for A4 should I just Farm Alabster or push to a certain area?
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>>573761189
Alabaster is fine if your gear isn't great already, otherwise I'd push past the wolf and farm the mines or do the Healer cave.
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>>573757890
I think we're getting Lilisette. (dissidia art because FFXI is a very ugly game)
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>>573765618
actually even better here's her mobius final fantasy art
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>>573764313
Isnt alabaster kinda evergreen because you need so many gloves and boots and even princess warrior rings
Its only missing chainmail
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>>573769686
The vast majority of junk that will drop out of the chests is both very low quality and has poor junk drop rates, and the token income per chest is quite low.
It also gives pretty shit EXP.
So yeah, you can farm it a lot, but that’s the problem. You’re going to farm it A LOT.
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Bizardry Bariands Dabney
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I'm beginning to think that the 4* yoto doesn't exist.
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>>573781893
Maybe you've become the deranged sword fiend. What a tweeeeest!
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Thief trial girl should have been rollable. 100x hotter than Rinne in looks and voice.
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we need legendary variants of Ninchan.
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What Slayer do you guys get from the Well of the Mind? I usually go for Warped Ones and Magical Beast slayer.
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>>573790807
Beast and being since theres a lot of them
I guess and then warped one. It used to be undead when I was in A3 but that last spot is kinda flex for me right now. Then theres also some information that multiple nodes stack so there's that too
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>>573792336
Demihuman for hog/gobbos might actually be a decent pick, actually.
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>>573790807
Unless there's a specific boss, usually just Giant if I can grab it.
Nothing I usually do really benefits from it.
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Working on my thief ring now, what a shitty slog gimmick this time. At least it's easy

I wish there's a reason for me to do knight's trial. My ainiggi can't even use that ring
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>inb4 the Priest Trial is a skeleton fest
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>>573795958
there wasnt a reason to do thief ring either if you do bounties
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>>573796284
I like my (eventual) master ring on my mask, the thief ring stays on the thief
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>>573796151
I hope the ring is a +healup or add Div to attack.
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>>573796464
>+div to attack
lol they'd never give damage to a non-damaging class. You get PIE up and that's that. Res + magic def on the lines
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>>573796284
Not wasting your master ring on a thief is a damn good reason
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>>573796817
ok but its a ring that lets anyone be a thief not just a thief
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>>573492359
this game's graphics are too nice, too bad it's a gacha games and not an old school single player game
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>>573797306
It's this nice precisely because it's a gacha game, as sad as it sounds.
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what's the verdict on thief ring's alteration? FAS + alter aspd, flat eva or eva%?
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>>573765618
>FFXI is a very ugly game
You shut your fucking mouth
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benis!
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Would thief ring be stronger than ring already on my thief?
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>>573805991
Thief ring could give you 20atk (alteration, then a lucky high roll), 10sur but not the other two stats. Pick it up if you can't get the master ring yet.
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>Checking the new voicelines for almost failing the chest
>try Yuzu
>"if i slip, you won't scold me, will you?"
Damn bratty fox, needs correction
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I've been wanting to farm him, but you have to redo the whole mission each time right? Also, I noticed some people saying that they used chrono on him but it never worked for me, using chrono lvl 2 did nothing.
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>>573809362
the yoto?
you don't have to redo the whole quest
>wheel
>pick the shortest talk options to guy at start
>go straight to sword fiend
>reset
chrono2 doesn't have a 100% proc rate
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>>573809362
Sword fiend? You have to restart the quest each time but don't need to complete it.
He has a resistance to delay effects, maybe 50%. You just want to stack as many MC turns as you can near "life within death" to fish for chronostasis procs.
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>>573810948
>>573811225
Oh thanks, read awhile back you had to do the whole quest again. Guess I can do this to kill some time, getting tired of farming the cyclops hammer. I think they nerfed the drop rates of certain weapons because I don't get nearly as many as I used to.
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>>573781893
keep going
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>>573812830
The cyclops stuff is inconsistent. It took me 250 kills to get my first weapon, and another within the next 10 kills but later I got weapons twice from
the single monthly walk to godefroi.
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beastfolk females with airplane ears
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>>573814449
I have a hammer at +15 and it has pretty good substats so Ive been trying to get it at +20. Need about 11 more to upgrade and it has been a slog. Only doing it because there isn't much else to do besides fishing and I'll hold off on it when the rewards are worth it.
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Lanavaille queen anus
Princess Pulgritte's puckered up pooper
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nyeeeeeh i nyeeda sum of da gyud nyontents
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this general is made up of 20% cats 20% buttholes 20% benis 20% nyontents and 20% gwoposting
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>>573765618
>>573765759
>>573799440
Cute! As long as they dont dress her in a stupid robe a la rinne I will look forward to her banner
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>>573812920
I hate this guy like you wouldn't believe.
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What's the amount of EXP books you get from 4th dungeon dailies after beating the dungeon?
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>>573840214
the sword fiend or the gwo?
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>>573812920
...It's 1-hit ? Is it even worth it compared to a regular 2-hit katanya ?
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you stupid fucking gwos are still under the impression that every character will get an alt. Just wait til we get the second lana alt
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>>573846140
Give me a Bibi and Ophelia alt and then I don't care what drecum does anymore.
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The grudge bearing sack doll bounty, Does the curse base itself off damage you do or something? Not done with A4 but lvl 70 party and my gerulf took 962 damage from the curse. He only has 700 HP
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>>573843592
The sword fiend, but on further reflection, both of them.
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>>573845891
its a 2h wep and gets the benefits of one
I use it anywhere I wouldn't use bbs
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I wonder if we're getting a hunting minigame to go along with the fishing one
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>>573855519
No, but we will get bug-catching to bring us one step closer to the true animal crossing experience.
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So I'm fairly new (haven't done the true ending for A1) and i've been meaning to ask, is there a team comp i can do here that can carry me trough all the current abysses, or i really have to mix and match as i go on?.
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>>573861612
Lana, Debra/Rinne, Yeka, Alice and Abenius/Livana is a solid enough team (factoring reclassing) that should be perfectly capable of tackling all of the main story challenges. The only issue would potentially be not having a thief when Debra reclasses but MC can be a perfectly fine chest opener.
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>>573861612
<Neutral or Good Fighter that you like>, MC Fighter, Lana (as Fighter, CC event is still up yes?)
Alice, Yek, Debra while crawling <-> Savia while bossing
...is probably the strongest team you can do with the least swapping out, 3rd Fighter is a tough choice, Benis has Legendary stats but is harder to invest in in the long run because she's Legendary, Chloe's HP/Surety discipline is great but there's not much else going on with her, Elise will buff Yek dmg by 10% if placed in front of her which is very nice for one-shotting groups with Secret Art but she has elf HP and bad discipline and no alt yet
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>>573861612
>front row pick 3 of
lana chloe liv abe
>back row
MC / any M/P / flex (chest opener / healer(Camille) / another mage or w/e you need)

I would avoid ninja / samurai until you start getting drops for them from a3/a4
if you have a generic thief you can disc, that helps them a lot
I personally run an evil team with mostly beastfolk however, based on what you have posted and considering you're about to do a2
I would run
Sav elise liv
MC yek deb
after that run w/o you want
frontrow lana with any g/n fighters, flexible backrow
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>someone actually recommended backline mc
holy low test gameplay
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>ambush
>bunny bites neck
hmm good thing I have another flame ready
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>>573862549
>>573862889
>>573862923

I see, thanks for the help, i think i'll go with
Lana(fighter)-MC(fighter)-Elise
Savia- Alice-yek

i'm sad that berkanan doesn't seem to be good, i like her voice lines, but i guess being some sort of mage/fighter hybrid is not that good.
One last question, could a team of
Savia-Rinne-Gerulf/MC(bad)
Alice-Adam-Gerulf/MC(bad)
work? or is too gimmicky?
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>>573864742
that team would be fine, for farming later on considering lvling an additional fighter for flexibility to replace adam/alice or move rinne to the back row etc
don't be afraid to use the general named if you like them
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>>573864742
>berkanan
you can have her replace alice or yek you do not need both of them - mage/priest characters can do both roles in 1 spot.
I personally didn't need a tank for any of the story content and I have finished A4 so if you want to drop savia you can to make space.
The game is more fun with the characters you enjoy.
note: people have cleared the story using all sorts of terrible teams don't think too hard about team comp it you are find with brute forcing by farming for stronger equipment sort of like being high level before beating the first pokemon gym
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I for one cannot wait until the Erwin class change / alt double feature
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>>573864742
Anything can work and clear if you're persistent enough and farm to make up the difference
But, for example, Yek is anti-undead and can carry you through early A3 by herself, while Adam is Light and will be one-shot by vampires later on, so it's definitely going to be a speedbump compared to how smooth the Yek experience is, and that's without going into Yek's anti-ambush
The Advanced class xp deficit is brutal and you don't have a passive way to help them catch up until you unlock the A3 exp Dispatch
So you have to decide if you're really that persistent or not for yourself

>>573865927
>mage/priest characters can do both roles in 1 spot
He said he's new, he probably doesn't have a mage+priest, even if he were going to CC one he shouldn't until a much higher level than what his characters are now
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>>573864742
Berkanan is pretty unique in her role and encourages running two weapons on her in order to benefit from both of her skillsets and she's good at both. By design she soft requires plenty of evasion because she's limited in her armor selection but has benefit of wielding two handed weapons and staves meaning that depending on what you want to do given turn she needs to swap weapons (although there were plenty of times I forgot to do so and she ended up bonking with her staff which actually isn't too terrible while being funny). I run her frontline and she works plenty well. On the topic of second team, it's fine. Only thing it doesn't have without class changing is thief so opening chests is going to be somewhat annoying. On topic of class changes, it's not worth it in my opinion to do so until hitting the current level cap since the way to class change despite events that help with it is still too prohibitive if one wants to do so on the "on need" basis.
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>>573867345
>On topic of class changes, it's not worth it in my opinion to do so until hitting the current level cap since the way to class change despite events that help with it is still too prohibitive if one wants to do so on the "on need" basis.
I was going to say his Lana is fine to CC since most of Knight is Knight-only stuff that Fighter can't use, but Unyielding Will to Fight is level 35 and he is 30, oops
So yeah, >>573861612 keep Lana Knight until 35 so she can cheat death if lucky
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>>573864742
My ace team has Savia+Rinne+MC frontline. It definitely works.

If you're planning on making heavy use of Savia in tanking and using Black Beast's Feint though, consider having her on the backline with a bow and Gerulf and MC at the front. Non-merged, base Savia just won't hit as hard as Gerulf and MC will so you'll be losing out on damage.
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>>573861612
Personally I found having at least 1 thief, 1 fighter, 1 mage, 1 priest mandatory for dungeon diving.
The last 2 slots are flex, use who you want. I ran a combination of 2 fighters or 1 fighter 1 mage. Berk could fulfill either role. A fighter can stay backline with a spear.
Later on when MC gets thief cc, he can open chests (badly), leaving another spot open.
Things like extra row damage passives aren't that important if you are new or not minmaxxing.
Besides you will level everyone down the line anyways.
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>>573765618
you think that shitty eOOs art is good lmao



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