>Guidehttps://www.bungie.net/en/Guide/Destiny2>Destiny Risinghttps://www.playdestinyrising.com/>NewsTWID (6/18): https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid_06_18_2026Update 9.7.0.3: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/destiny_2_update_9_7_0_3Destiny 2 End of Service: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/d2_may_21_2026 >ResourcesDIM: https://app.destinyitemmanager.com/Destiny Report: https://destiny.report/Armor Picker: https://d2armorpicker.com/API: https://www.light.gg/Stats: https://destinytracker.com/Braytech: https://braytech.org/PressKits: https://press.bungie.com/Destiny-2Checkpoint Bots: https://d2checkpoint.com/Popularity Report: https://popularity.report/>TTK, Buffs/Debuffs, DPS, etc...https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/Previous: >>573293640
Rape Bungie.
>>573525148
Titans lead the way
>>573525304I AM THE WALL I AM THE WALL I AM THE WALL I AM THE WALL I AM THE WALL I AM THE WALL
Titans, piss.
Why is the new player experience so bad and why did they never fix it?
>>573525902MODS
>me with my Truth
How about dat praxics face when he saw the gat
>>573525908It is pretty baffling that they never made a simple, short tutorial mission for this purpose, or updated the one from the Red War with a simple disclaimer that it depicted events far in the past, but you know small indie team please understand. I can't imagine it would have taken as much effort to create a tutorial mission as it does for a regular story one, you don't even need to record any voice lines or write it into the story. You could even just use a Crucible map with some NPCs.
The immortal titan helmet is pretty cool and I like how you get a spectral crown with aura buffs even if you dont use the associated chestpiece
>>573527232>you get a spectral crown with aura buffsPics?
Just got my funny Lightsaber and want to mess around wtih it a bit, any decent Warlock builds for it?Also, if you lads could throws some good Legendary Gear recommendations at me that'd be nice, i have no fucking idea which Legendaries are good now (or even know most of them)
>>573525902
>>573526652>or updated the one from the Red War with a simple disclaimer that it depicted events far in the pastHuh now I'm thinking about the first Risen in the Dark Age and fumbling about with the Light
>>573527441
>>573528103Neat thanks.
why can't I interact with the loom? I press the button when prompted but it immediately vanishes
>adds another 100 ghost projections>adds 50 new transmat effects>adds 20 new emblems which are just recolors of old onesuh, i expect my 100k SALARY nowmy work is done no i will not work on the actual game plus i expect royalties from the eververse
it's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCIe60wUqvM
>that thumbnail>denial frame that highlol?
>>573530579retard
Which class won the final update?
>>573531065Hunters
>>573530921mint retrogade is betterwitherhoard is betterfighting lion is betterlodestar is betterany joltany volatileany ignitionany superany grenadeAdd clear is so trival at this point that a retard doesn't need to even put together a build, just put 150 into grenade and you're good to go. Attrition orbs got nerfed you can shit out orbs in so many better ways.
>>573531149-won the being the biggest fags contest, with warlocks following closely behind...
Are titans called titrans because they frequently make themselves female in order to have pauldrons that aren't the size of a warsat?
Any kind anons willing to run Equilibirum with me, and has all the orbs unlocked so I can one-shot this stupid questline?
>>573525902Reminds me of when Bumblebee pissed on that one human In the first transformers movie.
>>573532808No, it's because of the large amount of autistic males who were titan mains in D1/early D2 because HALOMAN who then "realized" (read: developed AGP from unrestricted internet access that led to porn addictions) that they were trans, and now exclusively use one of the trans emblems and made a big deal about changing the sex of their character and frequently use the Neopop Wave and True Self shaders with one of the high heel+skirt titan leg pieces.And a few ERPers /here/ put the final nails in the coffinI miss my friends that I've lost to them trooning out so much. It's genuinely an evil on society all-around.
>>573533453>I miss my friends that I've lost to them trooning out so much. It's genuinely an evil on society all-around.none of my friends went tranny, small mercy in my world, a couple of online people I kinda knew but I wouldn't have called them friends
>>573533453>(read: developed AGP from unrestricted internet access that led to porn addictions)Le porn addiction memeif this was true 99% of autistic men would be trannies and not .00000001%
>>573533453>porn addictionsPorn addictions are as real as the Holocaust.
>>573534231god it's mind boggling to see someone see information shared by someone and take such baffling logical leaps to come to some dipshit ass conclusion>thing happened due to X>therefore literally every single person must have had that same result otherwise it's untrueoutstanding
>>573534510Considering that we now have 24/7 access to porn via a magic pocket box, yet the actual number of real transsexuals(read: not just self-ID "Spicy Girl" non-transitioning foid to male larpers) has actually gone DOWN in the last 15 years, it kinda fucking sinks your theory.
/dg/ - Transexual Studies general
>>573534740I don't believe that for a fucking second, provide your evidence.
>>573535054Evidence: my eyeballs.
>>573534851Warlocks are our friends, anon.
>>573530518Finally, when I found out that actual pest guy tried to make a last ditch buck on testing vids I was waiting for Aegis to get this shit printed
man overthrow sucks did people really praise this
>>573535054https://www.generationtechblog.com/p/trans-identification-really-is-inok here broinb4 reported for offtopic >>573535782No it was pretty universally loathed for both being boring and grindy as fuck
>>573535782No one has praised any aspect of The Pale Heart ever.
>>573535853>3 yearsyou said 15, nigger I said provide your evidence not something you very quickly googled right now
>>573536015the pale heart is fucking awful, genuinely, this place sucksi mean i was shitting on TFS when the dlc came out and people here were quick to defend it and say that the lost sectors were good and that the pale heart was great and the exotic quests were funwho the fuck made a patrol zone solo only
>>573536079i was exaggerating u retardstop being such a rape victim
>want to make new build>spend 5 hours farming armor set>great time for the exotic>oops ran out of golf balls>spend 2 hours farming >oops ran out of glimmer>spend 1 hour farming glimmer>ok finally got the exotic>yup this build is somewhat fun and adds another loadout I can bring into activities >repeatThis is hell
>>573536559>ran out of golf balls
Can anyone help me with this stupid fucking xenophage quest? Whoever thought it was cool to have instant death beam spamming cyclops is a piece of shit.
>>573536753Im unlucky with exotics
>>573530518>fusion rifles universally in D/F tierRiptide bros...WE USED TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULE THE WORLD
Barrett won
>Just crafted a word of crotaThis shit is fucking awesome, can't believe I was missing out for this long
>>573536762Can you fucking kill yourself please?
>>573536937>trusting a jewtuberIgnore their trans autism they actually feel really good compared to what they were before
>>573536937fusion rifles have been shit since opulance and they were only good then because loaded question existed.>telestomemesto is a special case and not to be considered. it's an exotic special long before it's a fusion rifle.
>>573536947Facts
>>573536937>trusting himPeople use fusions all the time for burst damage.
>>573537093>ignore the one guy who does the math, and trust me, a random online
>>573536559The entire armor rework has made me want to engage with it less and less the more I have to>there isn't an armor archetype for Melee/Class for Hunter melee builds at all, you just have to pray it drops with class on Paragon armor (and barely hit 200 melee with font mods because of it)>I can't just swap get good stat pieces, I HAVE to go get the one with the stats I want for the set bonus I want (and most of the bonuses are hard type-set into one element or gamemode) from the activity I want, and pray I don't get inundated with tier-4 weapon drops instead>the only Solar melee set for Warlock comes from a dungeon that can only drop tier 5s on a 4+ week rotation so I can't farm it consistently>raid sets are either dogshit or sidegrades to patrol space armor so there's no real point to them outside of "Cursed Thrall explosion funny meme" from Cropta>there aren't very many good PvP sets at allAnd a few more whinges
>>573536762>play void hunter>just dodge for invisibilitywaow so hard
>>573536559Tell me about it, i'm broke as shit from trying out new builds now.
>>573526424>me with my piss
>>573537275The only stat actually worth going 200 in is weapons.
>>573536937fusions are still the best at dicking down champs/bosses when you run out of heavy
>>573537267Gameplay > spread sheets
>>573537275>>raid sets are either dogshit or sidegrades to patrol space armowhat
>>573537267NTA but almost every time people just do math, it almost never works out like that in game
>>573536937Who cares, people still use them for damage and put decent numbers
Why does the slayer baron satchel list shotguns as a featured weapon when none of its perks mention shotguns
>>573537301Waow, I forgot that this general doesn't actually enjoy playing the game.
>>573536270>I lied and completely changed the argument to something irrelevantholy shit you are retarded
>>573530518still using smgs
>>573538509Slayer's Fang probably I think it was at that time
>>573538835Based and Peacekeeperspilled
>>573536937>>573530518Putting rocket pulses in like undisputable best S tier is really questionable. Managing their ammo is super hell
>>573530518where are rapidfire scouts and heavy burst HCs
>>573538263Isn't this the same fucker that said that molesto wave Ergos were top-tier because he was testing on Riven and that actually let the bolts hit instead of landing behind the boss?
How do I classmax?I want to spam hazardous propulsion but even with 100+ class it still feels like it takes years to come back.
which exotic for VORTEX nova bomb? I'm thinking Nezarec's sin, but most of them seem kind of stinky
>video outright says it's about archetype without perks so even if the archetype is mathematically subpar thay doesn't make the specific gun shitWooooowAnyway the amount of speedrunners on /dg/ has got to be close to 0 so what does that matter. Unless you're doing bust your balls off contest content or actually trying to farm endgame shit optimally I strongly doubt this applies to anyone. It sure doesn't apply to me.
>>573524964Soon
>>573539064I don't even play titan, I just really like smgs
ok but why does every titan armor set have giant retard nigga shoulders
Is it possible to get the A499 without owning renegades
>Duality is still the featured dungeon
>>573537275The funny thing with the armor sets is it shouldn't be such a big decision to make sense of and what to go for when there's stark winners, lotta arguable B-/C+ shit and if you wanna be a real nerd about it it's not like you can't beat the hardest of shit without the best of the best set up solely on armor set when that shit is relatively new to the game. Yes it's busted effects not worth forgoing but like the game only got easier and even the challenging one off shit isn't so contingent on having the absolutely perfect set thing. I think people would've been way more pissed off if Bungie slow trickled this crap
>>573540204It's not every set but it's somewhere between They used 40k as reference for titans (among other things)They had this silhouette idea (which is technically untrue because male and female Titan look pretty different but nobody at Bungie played Titan)Big ass shoulders with proper proportions (that last part is where they tripped up) can look cool.So the so called visual identity kind of stuck. Amusingly though the original D2 Titan armor is parade armor so being impractical is not actually something that should have applied to every set. Maybe.
>>573540330Nope buy saar wars saar
D1 on PS4. Whenever I try to go to any of the social hubs I get error code bee or beaver. I know it's not my internet as everything else, including D2 on PC, is working just fine. D1 missions are fine too; just social hub issues. What's going on?
>>573540543has it been the featured dungeon this whole time or something? equilibrium I assume will always be which sucks but shit if the other slots are bugged that sucks I need GotD back rip
>>573537275>rng to get armor>rng to get tier 5>rng to get the stats you wantall I get is armor with Health on it so I scream internally.
There are objectively eay better armor sets and it only does a small portion of what Warmind Cells used to do but the Seventh Seraph set is just fun.Although with Cauterized Darkness and Icebreaker you can technically approximate having some utility I guess.
>>573540743It's over.
>>573540828>all I get is armor with Health on it so I scream internally.>iron banner>need t5 boots to complete the set>not high enough power to focus>get the boots to drop twice>both have health:) there's always next month right
>>573540580I'm not even looking at what I "need," I'm looking at what would benefit my exotic and subclass, and there aren't very many synergies. Luminopotent is phenomenal on any Arc class, but that just doesn't exist for the other elements. The armor bonuses limit me a lot in what I feel like I "can" build now.>>573540828>rng to get armor vs a weapon (all tables are weighted towards weapons, I don't think Bungie reverted that original weighting from the days of armor being useless after the 1st drop for transmog)>rng to get that armor to be the tier you want (via the randomness of activity rotators)>rng to get that armor to be the archetype you want>rng to get that armor to drop with the 3rd stat you actually give a shit about>rng to get that armor to drop with the free +5/-5 mod in the stat you wantAnd I get frustrated with farming any time I sit down and say "I'm going to farm armor" because there's just too many layers of RNG for me personally.
>flawless lucent finisher pathfinder objective is still bugged since TFS launched
>2026>pathfinder
>play onslaught to farm eutechnology>people keep leaving after 20 wavesREEEEEE
>>573541950they had 2 years to fix itdont defend bungie you shill
>log in>complete one Pale Heart Pathfinder>log outbeen doing this everyday, simple as
>>573542060Shill has lost all meaning, than?
Bungie had a decade to give people tons of qol but they didn't so
>>573542342As much as you don't do the activity, the activity is still constantly integrated with the game's triumphs, it's included in the moments of triumph list of shit to do, its included as part of the final shape which last I checked is still in the game (although if bungie could, they would remove it probably) and you have to still do pathfinder to get through exotic quests and other bullshit.Yea, you're a fucking shill
>>573542846So you are doubling down on misusing the word "shill" and are a self-admitted retard? Good to know.
>>573541339The annoying thing too is all of that is a fixable problem just add some some form of crafting Ada could sell bounties that give specific tools for slamming a given mod, guarantee a certain archetype for some armors, to reroll a third stat. Even on a one chance per armor basis that's still a way to alleviate issues.Literally just take a page off PoE's book and give people ways to chart out a course towards given gear. Even with randomness and much less autism involved it would be a good enough system.Might also have to make strikes more valuable to play with dedicated loot. Just a thought though, none of it matters anymore.
>>573540650>It's not every set butit is literally every set
>titan and hunter in my fireteam get into an argument about exotics>Hunter argues that titan exotics are cool and have wacky gimmicks that could be fun to play around instead of boring slop like balance of power>Titan argues that boring but effective exotics are more fun because the wacky gimmicks are only fun for about 5 minutes before he goes back to Syntho/ClassItem/etcwho was right
The systems surrounding armor have never felt good at any point. If a new looter shooter releases and it has armor as part of the loot focus then I will treat it as a red flag.
yay or nay?
>>573544713>lead from gold/recombinationYay, the rest nay unless you like minigame, then Moving Target/Snapshot as always.You have horrible barrel options, Tactical Mag is good but not preferable vs. Accurized Rounds or Steady Rounds, and KT and Firing Line are not ideal on that frame.Succession is best as an orange bar/miniboss killer for puzzle encountersr and traversal sections of raids/dungeons, not a DPS weapon.
Not my normal color scheming, but what do anons think? Just got the getaway ornament today, so wanted to try it for prismatic. Going yellow to hearken to Warlock's signature color.
>>573543882Titan exotics are easily the most boring because they're all workhorse shit that just makes your innate stuff better.You don't get shit like necrotic grip or caliban's hand.
>>573545494>they're all workhorse shit that just makes your innate stuff betterexcept 90% of the time they dont even do that
Changed the legs.>>573545745I'd believe this, I have no horse in the race. Looking through titan's exotics made me decide to never touch the class.
>>573545826A fun pattern you can spot is how many exotics try to make us use the barricade offensively >Khepri's Horn>Citans>Arbor Warden>Hoarfrost-Z>Abeyant Leap(only good when Suspend was overtuned as fuck)>HazProp(the only one that actually kinda worked out)And then they gave up and just started making it into aspects with Storm's Keep and Shieldburst
>>573546775Poor Antaeus Wards left dead and rotting in the ditch this whole time. Probably the worst titan exotic.
>>573547696>dogshit for years>light shines up its ass for a single season in pvp>raped and left irrelevant MANY SUCH CASES
>>573546775>Khepri's HornThe only time it got any use, ever, was when Iron Banner was bugged in Lightfall so it could instantly trigger mercy if you had a 6 stack of Titans or captured 2/3 points.How they managed to bug that, I'll never know.
Fuck it they should enable friendly fire in crucible.
>>573543254I disagree but whatever I guess
>>573525296>>>573532965sure>>573527652lightsabre synergizes with all subclasses so you can use it with anything really>>573539681you dont get more energy/less cooldown past 100i dont know how you would lower the cd outside of ember of singeing, strategist, finisher armor mods
>>573539681armor mods that make orbs of power regen ability energy on pickupspam orbs with attrition orbs weapon and/or ability usage
>allied superdestroyer joining squadron>deploying helldiverNow what do I use for the loadout
>bungie really went all in on seasonal activities>removed all the stuff that people might want to redo>kept the most inane bullshit to shove into the strike playlistIf only they treated the faction rallies or seasonal activities like festival of the lost like the stupid ass battlegrounds.
>>573551114There were more battlegrounds they didn't bring back, anon.There are retards out there asking for them.
>>573550942I dunno what's a terrible weapon there
/mg/ is slow as fuck, and I'm sure the only reason it is not sliding off the catalog is that there's one guy constantly bumping it with an image once it reaches page 9/10They are also coping hard atm, coming up with ways to save the game, and lamenting the fact that the "Marathon well" was poisoned because we'll never get something as "cool, stylish, and original"Genuinely, what is Bungie feeding these fags?
>>573551414hard to pick one that would translate over to destiny imoI'm realizing just how... sparse... the weapon variety seem to be in destiny.
>just remembered that they made moutaintop use special ammoI know that the ice exotic one still exists and uses primary ammo, but it's still bad.
>>573551905Am i retarded or didn't mountaintop always use special>>573551761Uh we have abilities? To be honest I only played the first helldivers some years ago so I'm drawing a blank on what helldivers has.
>>573552205I'm pretty sure it was always special. I just wish it wasn't.
>>573552397as if you'll ever run out of ammo using it anyway
>>573552205Kind of the only thing I can really pinpoint in d2 that comes close to the abilities you get in helldivers would be the airstrikes you get in the star wars thing (very clear inspiration)For weapons I might just run a blocky looking auto, a rocket sidearm, and gjallarhorn with the gjunker skin and call it a dayMaybe hazardous propulsion for some mini airstrike feels
Damn crackshot is fun
So what are the exotics that just got their exotic perk transformed into legendary frames? Forerunner and Witherhoard come to mind as guns you would just never touch now because we have legendary versions with stronger perk pools.
So is there even a way to get the exotic class item unlocked solo anymore, or do I have to find somebody willing to do Dual Destinies with my other two classes just because I missed the last Festival of the Lost?
>>573556208I saw a video saying there was a way to get the class item solo but I didn't click on it. Might wanna try looking it up to see if it's legit. If you're a warlock though don't even bother with the class item
>>573554323Forerunner still hits harder than every legendary sniper, and i don't think even the starwars version gets perks that make it truly comparable
>>573556208>>573556356FoTL was the only way to unlock them solo. Dual Destiny is the only way to unlock them at all now.
>>573556208To unlock focusing: have to do dual destinyYou should be able to farm the pale heart activities and chests or optionally you can buy them from xur
>invents a whole backstory to explain why all his friends cut him off for being a chudLiterally just grow out of being retarded and you'll be welcome back in society
>>573556483>>573556356Looks like so long as one class has unlocked it, it can drop for the other two classes in Matchmade Overthrow. Apparently there was an Esoterikk vid about it?>>573556536I tried buying on my Titan (who hasn't done it yet) at Xur a week or two ago, but it says I need to have it in collections first.
>>573549381>Equilibrium orbsAnon if you still awake Ill take you up on that offer
>>573556849i am still awakei can join on you
>>573556627>collectionsTry farming the paleheart until it drops the first time. The only thing I know is you cant focus itAlso if you want I can do dual destiny with you but not tonight cause im sleepy
>>573556946/join Exile#1067
>hop on my fagass hunter because everyone is looking for dps retards in raids>look at build>remember I was Blade Barraging with IED fragment>feels even strongerMaybe Hunters aren't so gay.
>>573557073Apparently blade barrage with shards is the highest DPS super for hunter now.
>>573557163Time is a circle.Remember when hunters were crying they were worthless this patch?Good times, the little retards are so cute.
>>573536937There’s no point in fusion rifles when shotguns exist. Same for snipers and linears. The only thing propping up fusion rifles was chill clip which they killed after seeing people having fun with it.
>>573557309Can you do shenanigans with recconstruction+reservoir burst for higher damage?
>>573557309>chill clip nerfImagine not playing the game as intended by Bungie
>>573557306Every class has at least one broken build for every subclass now. This is probably the best state the game has ever been in for class balance and build variety.
>>573557374Yes, or recon/ea/overflow plus controlled burst for higher dps, and higher overall damage than every legendary shotgun.
>>573557374>resevoir At that point just use the one perk that gives damage and charge rate on hit which I believe is called controlled burst>>573557309Fusion rifles can do some solid burst damage. Chill clip was nice but controlled burst now acts as the best fusion rifle perk. Also merciless is pretty good rn from what I've seen
>>573557309Deliverance stuns all three champs still, and lionfish is very much a viable chill clip host for overload and unstoppables.
I want black ops 2 but with Destiny gunplay if that makes any sense. Speaking of which I would love black ops 2/3 weapon ornaments. Like the man-o-war for suros regime would be awesome.
>>573557806Merciless has heal clip, kill clip, and the perk that decreases charge time with every hit, works pretty good as just a better fusion rifle. It needs scorch/ignitions though to be truly useful in this new era.
>>573558045Explain further
>>573558045I want a destiny game but with black ops level of story. God 1 and 2 were so fucking kino its crazy, bungie could never in a million years
>>573558136They should still have given Riptide it's rightful antibarrier intrinsic
What are some good weapons to use for pvp?i don't really DO pvp but i have to do Invasions atm and figured some weapons specifically for pvp might be useful in the future for anything else that'll need it
>>573558765if you are just doing invasions use weapons that you cant immediately counter once fired like eyes of tomorrow or gjallarhorn or deathbringera parasite at worms hunger x20 also has a nuclear bomb size blast radius you can just chuck vaguely in a persons direction for a killotherwise just use a very solid LMG
Where are you planning on migrating when you run out of things to do? I've been eyeing Division 2 myself.Or are you just going to give up on the genre entirely?
>>573559162I own the Division 2 though the last time I actually played that was years ago. Still kinda want to go back but I waste too much time on pointless daily shit.When I get tired of D2 again I guess I'll drop it and go back to some single player games. Not that I engage much with the multiplayer side of D2
>>573558765A good invasion weapon is both good for primeval damage and killing guardiansSo S tier would be Truth and One Thousand voicesThen any decent LMG and Gallerghorn
>>573559000>>573559763>heavyI did 3 invasions flawless so far and genuinely found 0 Heavy ammo lol
>>573530518this guy is a fucking shitter and knows nothing about the game
>>573558765If you're using Heavy to invade then you need to either kill them in a way that they can't reliably get to you (Eyes of Tomorrow, Deathbringer) or kill them so quickly it won't matter (Eager Edge, basically any LMG or Rocket).If you're not already good at PvP, then be prepared to have your slot stolen the first time you go into the portal and don't come back with 4 heads. This means that like that other anon said, you'll need your weapon to also be good Primeval DPS.Me personally, though, I prefer to have an Exotic Primary for Gambit, and just run a good LMG if I plan to invade.
>>573560061heavy boxes spawn after each spawn wave though?
>>573558623Deliverance
>>573560061If your talking about renegades invasions you have to open the little tin cansBut renegades invasions aren't "real". You can just use behemoth or revitalize + one off super and always win
>>573560526Anon might be doing lawless frontier invasions, not gambit invasions
>>573556946Thank you anon for being my hero
>>573560691I should specify not the titan super, the big walker things
>>573560802any time
>>573558203Uplifting the entire gunplay feel and movement (so animations, recoil, handling, animing, etc.) into Black Ops 2. So it feels like playing Destiny, but without the abilities and double jumping obviously.
>>573561117I can't live without my lift tho
>>5735272325'11" lookin ass
>go into fireteam ops to get weekly slop done>warmind shit>reminded they spent an entire season pussifying Rasputin into killing himself for ??? reason while bitchtalking Clovis like twitter users baiting for likes
>>573560723>>573560691Yeah i was talking about Lawless Frontier, still helpful to know for Gambit in the future though
Haha stasis crystal go boom
>>573558379wellneither could any of the cod studios for that matter
dead game dead general dead thing dead orbit
>>573564447dead messenger telling a dead man's tale
>>573564447>Arach Jalaal was right and got away like a banditBased
>do Lawless Frontier contracts>still only LL 381, so Master>only do like 30% of my usual damage>genuinely need heavies to deal with Superiors, lets not even talk about Championsis this because im not 500+? i genuinely have no idea why my damage got cut down this fucking hard
>>573561762>dialogue volume above zerowhat kikery is this?
>>573565035they most likely got smoked, enslaved and turned into vex goop/abominations/taken/eaten by falleniggers because this universe is written by fucking NIGGERS
>>573566347The thing is, we will never know now and can just default to assuming they got away.Total Jalaal/Hideo victory.
How did destiny fail to have any pop culture influence? It’s completely forgotten and nowhere near as ubiquitous as something like WoW or Runescape
>WoW still outliving FFXIV>Warframe still outliving DestinyIs Destiny the FFXIV of their genre?
>>573567446>>573567459hivemind
>>573567446Sunsetting.It is literally the only thing normies know about Destiny.
I miss the original mystique Destiny had. That sense of wonder and unknown was fucking amazing.
>>573567505And it'll disappear from the minds of normies in a couple of months. Nothing about the game will have any cultural impacts by the look of it. As it stands most people are forgetting and focusing more on the mass layoffs instead.
>>573565361Frontiers is gaynigger streamer "watchable content" difficulty where in terms of damage...>heavies are specials>specials are primaries>primaries only exist to break cum jars for healing/revive tokens>abilities and supers are a joke unless you are using something inherently "broken"Just keep in mind the unspoken rule of the mode is... dont even bother fighting Hunter Mobs. They are just sponges meant to waste your time and ammo/abilities. And get a grip on healing really well. As a warlock don't even bother with Well or healing rifts, but Pheonix Dive works. Healing grenades work very goodon their initial burst.And god have mercy on your soul if you are fighting Vex and Wyverns show up without someone spamming the Behemoth.
>>573567957>dont even bother fighting Hunter Mobsand they run away if you DO try to fight themits so funny
>>573567583i miss coming to /dg/ during the opening weeks of vanilla d1
>>573567459>WarframeYou know the utter incompetence of Bungie is made even more clear with this fucking game. They raked in massive cash and not only did they burn it all away they had to be kept alive by Sony for 4 years while they worked on Marathon. If it wasn't for the buyout 4 years ago going through this game would have shutdown earlier. How is a Canadian company working with a smaller budget and smaller revenue able to host 11 FUCKING CONVENTIONS YEAR AFTER YEAR but the fucking creators of Halo couldn't even host 1 FUCKING CONVENTION under Blizzard, under themselves or under Sony.
>>573568236fucking runescape has almost yearly conventionsit can't be that hard to pull off or financeunless bungie genuinely hates their playerbase nd doesn't want to meet them (except the few chosen streamers)
>>573530518this guy is huffing and snorting all the copium he can find, talking about optimizing day 1 setupslmao
>>573568328Jagex is worth 1 Billion bro
>>573568416they got similar player numbers to marathon and are being held up by a game that came out in 2013they must really have some proper whales if thats the case
>>573568328Runescape(Jagex) is actually a big MMO regardless of its age. It's actually more active than some of the big "MMO names" so it getting a convention makes sense. Warframe (Digital Extremes) on the other hand isnt that big, rarely gets Destiny 2 active numbers but somehow has the money to be F2P and host conventions. This easily spells out that Bungie is just incompetent.
>>573568496retard
>>573568542fuck you bitch
>>573568496>comparable to MarathonNot even remotely close. Are you talking about OSRS numbers? Jagex doesnt hide their count by any means. They average 200-300k daily at one time and log about 1 mil unique people a day.
>>5735685601% of osrs players play through steam
>>573568691>>573568696>believing devs instead of third-party numbersactual literal cattle
>>573560117found the high impact scout fan
>>573568738>is retarded>gets called retarded for being retarded>has a melty over being called retarded for their retarded actionsretard
>>573568821retard
>>573568841only 1% of destiny's retards post on /dg/
>>573568738There are actual third party numbers for both versions of Runescape you retard. Nobody uses steam.
>>573569053>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU MUST BELIEVE THE OFFICIAL NARRATIVE NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T QUESTION THE NUMBERSliteral. fucking. cattle.
>>573569113the jig is up anon, you can stop pretending to be retardedyou... are pretending right?
>>573569192how does that boot taste?
Stop replying to bait.
>>573569327okay. I can't believe this level of cattle is allowed to browse this general, let alone play destiny.
>>573569394(You)
I think its safe to say that Destiny 2 was a mistake, on literally every front. There is not a single thing it does better than D1.>>573567446Comparing anything to peak WoW is going to be a losing bet.>>573567459FFXIV is doing great thoeverbeit.>b-but the playcount!Game's hit its pre-expansion content drought period.
>>573569665if destiny 1 is so great, how come it never got a remake?
Why would runescape even have steam numbers? It launched off a browser back in the day(2000's) and got its own desktop launcher back around 2010 or something.
>>573569729I hope it never does, and i hope it never comes to PC. The console base of the 20teens were niggers and dudebros, while the PC playerbase was always queers and deviants. D2 being gayer than grinder is 100% because of the PC player's influence.
>>573567446I think the hybridized format, no conventional social element ,no framework to build organic community,cultural mores, because there was always this de emphasis to even bother talking and interacting in game, no in game LFG for a majority of its lifespan which was odd for a game in 2014, basic QOL shit put off TBA, etc etc. Point is there’s only so much impact you can have when your game was always lacking something obvious and you were more preoccupied about people tolerating things in disarray than being diligent about things in the first place. I know some people look at Destiny as one of the games people were playing when Twitch,content,creation took some turns in that early-mid 2010s period, I think that’s why Bungie relied so heavily on the ecelebs to run defense. Idk I was just thinking the other day, the fact how DIM basically was a mandatory component of making the game tolerable and loadouts didn’t exist in the game for that long and they still found ways to fuck up handling things is very odd to think about, like I’m not shocked people in current year look at Destiny as a total laughing stock
>>573569665>FFXIV is doing great thoeverbeit.Yeah bro you going from an expansion that brought the count to 2.1 million players and then having the expansion after drop the count to 300k is truly a great sign of the game's health. I mean any confident company would send out it's lawyers to squash a plugin that confirmed the drastic loss of players.
>>573569957dont try and reason with the chartcel
>>573570136totally bro, it wasn't culture as a whole or anything. it was the gay boogeymen that occupy your brain
>>573569665>FFXIV is doing great thoeverbeitIt isn't. SE financials stated XIV lost half it's fucking revenue during Dawntrail.
Everkino will fix the game
>>573571038Sunset
>>573570204FFXIV has at no point ever had 2.1 million concurrent players.>I mean any confident company would send out it's lawyers to squash a plugin that confirmed the drastic loss of players.Well no they did that because the plugin was used purely to stalk and harass people, they did the same with another plugin that had similar capabilities.>>573570837The CEO of SE just got on stage at a fanfest and said they're gonna be dumping money into the game. That is not the behavior of a game that is dying.
>>573571569talk to me about this red strand
>>573571429Anon didn't say concurrent did he. 2.1m dau is not the same as 2.1m ccu. D2 gets 1m dau pretty easily across all platforms even now.
>>573573204>Anon didn't say concurrent did hehe didn't give any metric actually.
>>573569665>ff14 announced>I want it to be ff5 but online and cool exploration>it's kind of this but the characters and clothing is hideous>stop playing>some meteor shit happens>look into it years later>the characters got uglier, the outfits infinitely worse, the gameplay dogshitSame issue with d2 honestly, the art direction is honestly fucking dreadful especially with all the cross over garbage
Honestly, guys. Honestly.
Honestly, D2's art director, that russian guy making guns, the chinks making the armor sets, and every dev who worked on Kepler or STAR WARS, needs to be blacklisted from every creative industry.
How did this little feller get through the filter
>>573575520I'll give you the gameplay but if you think the characters are unappealing and the outfits suck you've got shit taste
>>573581367probably a letter in there somewhere the system doesn't recognize so it leaves it out/as blank
>>573581367Because hes making fun of cops and so the ACAB filter allowed it
there is no engram focusing for legendary weapon ornaments so would it just be impossible to obtain them?
>>573583623i think they confirmed on socials that those are unobtaniumcunts i know
>>573530518>Shilling spread shot handcannonsLiterally never seen a soul use these
>>573581941>Tassets/back overlay panels everywhereFFXIV armor design has a bad case of homogenization. It's not a wonder why a lot of the playerbase chooses to wear wacky custom outfits over the actual sets.
Speaking of 14 will marathon have a realm reborn moment?
No one is even remotely interested in Marathon.
>>573584030>>Shilling
>>573584842It's just going to die like Battleborn
>"What if we made an enemy faction that was so shit..."That's it. That's all they asked themselves.
>>573587352>Reskinned rhulks and psionsYou can tell they never intended for these guys to exist when they started on Final shape
>>573587352pic unrelated? the scorn are by far the shittiest faction.
>>573587637I want to say scorn hate is overdone but they really made a >just go fucking intangible for 5 secondsmechanic.
>>573587352I like the tormentor, everything else is total shit. All psion reskins they probably made in a month.
>>573584482>FFXIV armor design has a bad case of homogenizationAnd?
Why don't they just turn Marathon into a Pokémon clone?
>>573588036>I like the most aggravating enemy to fightRespect. I hate mr. I have one crit spot and it's 60% obscured by my weapon.
Anyone wanna do master grasp? I wanna get the armor for free 15% dr by literally doing nothing and I wasnt lucky last week in my drops
>>573588148because that unironically makes more sense than being a shitty extraction shooter.they should actually make an action rpg like dragon's dogma/monster hunter where you fight giant fuckass things with specific weakspots but focused on guns
>>573587352"we can't remake Siva Devils too hard", also don't say shit how much we did on the chassis of a marauder and other unique fuckery that came at TFS's delay REEEE
>>573588503Nvm found a lobby
Marathon: The Raped
>>573587352Wasn't Rhulk supposed to be the last representative of his species? What are the subjugators supposed to be if not the same species as him?
>>573589598don't they have some weird cloney/gene therapy tech or somethingI think? they were supposed to be a combination of rhulk shit and cabal shit(mostly psions), but fuck if I know
>>573589741It's the Witnesses shape autism. He has taken the shapes of his disciples and some of the species in the solar system and made battle automatons out of them.
>>573589525
>>573587352It's impressive how they made a faction that felt lazy and rehashed despite being all new models with new mechanics.
>>573591569it's because they just felt awkward, obtuse and half-baked.doesn't help that they seem as if they were designed just to be annoying instead of to be interesting or anything else.>>573590649oh right, at that point the witness was trying to assimilate into the traveler and was just using it to make whatever the fuck.
>So there's this big bad>Who is actually an entire species in one person>But not every one of them agrees>Even though it is established that the species made the decision to become one collectively>Somehow removing these dissenters defeats the entire being instead of just removing the internal dissentWhat the fuck were they thinking with the Witness? It makes zero sense.
/mg/ is not taking this wellthey're huffing way too much coppium
>>573571569Ya got siva crawling out yo bussy playa
>>573593021the problem with creating an ultimate big bad, something that is basically a god, is that how the fuck do you defeat it in a way that doesn't make it seem easy. That's why so many stories shy away from sometimes even revealing what the big bad "darkness" is because they have no clue. Why make Witness a big bad instead of just some alien that sold his soul to the darkness i have no idea. They could have literally just gone with the "there is no darkness to worry about because we've killed all of its most high ranking, most powerful followers".
>>573593053Marasissies always lose and get raped by us DOOMGODS.
Did they ever reconcile the ludonarrative dissonance of the game being centered around a loop of killing, looting, and growing stronger despite being supposedly ideologically opposed to this loop?Is the true Final Shape and most powerful pattern in a paracausal world a gentle city ringed with spears and guarded by one or more pitch-Dark attack dogs?
>>573595172The Darkness represents Law where The Light represents Chaos, to put it to very simple SMT terms. The Darkness wants everything to settle to a "Final Shape" where nothing changes afterwards. Light represents the chaotic nature of creation. Although I doubt the current Bungie writers even thought about that after a point
>>573594640Well, to be fair, the Witness was just some intergalactic incel who co-opted the Dark for his cosmic school-shooting. The Winnower would have still been the actual big bad and apparently it would have been the Vex (as the actual, indisputable final shape of the flower game) that would have taken center stage in the story going forward.
i have no idea if hallowfire is doing anything im just running around throwing my hammer at stuff
>>573595504speaking of those plans, I wonder how a "Light" subclass would even work. Similar to Prismatic, but just getting all the Light subclasses as choices with some new picks?
>>573587928>for 5 secondsevery 5 seconds
To this day I still think Prismatic is the laziest and uncreative thing they could've come up with for a new subclass
>>573595820I think it was a cool idea to let us combine favorite abilities into onr subclass but I think the customization with it was kinda lame and really only shined with warlock
>>573595820They should have just abolished the subclasses then and there and allowed people to choose from the entire power pool of their class.>But that would have formed a meta!As if that doesn't happen anyway
are any of the heavy crossbows good
>>573595820It would have been good if they actually made proper prismatic aspects instead of just hastily making existing aspects more generally applicable.>you just want consecration+howl of the storm as an aspect:3
>>573595820it was supposed to just be a pale heart thing until the panic delay and then it became a full subclass
im just gonna buy palworld
>>573596797Cool it with the antisemitism
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/sony-ceo-sells-over-half-074531984.htmlBungie is fucked
>>573596134Void one can let you do INSANE autoloading with envious arsenal + witherhoard but that requires witherhoard and alot of swapping just to make it decent/goodStasis one is good for one and dumping but not raid worthy more like lost sector worthy
>marathon if it were ice cream
>>573597516Just another season in the freezer can save it.
A raid guide that takes over an hour is probably not a very good raid guide
>>573598653Both of the Witness related raids are hellholes full of obtuse mechanics that are not actually very challenging once you learn them but are notoriously difficult to explain in a concise manner.
>>573598653Ff14 ultimates can be summed up in 15-20 minutes meanwhile a full destiny raid guide is 1 hour, filled with sponsors, and ths guide people going "ummmm this is how we think your supposed to do it" and or they only show gameplay of one role and poorly explain the other roles
>>573598653its better than what I experienced with my raid team in early D2/Taken King. I had a guy who had to explain THE ENTIRE RAID at once and spent close to 2 hours explaining and clarifying, then the inevitable "I forgot" happened after 5 minutes into the raid. I finally strongarmed the team to just explain mechanics of the specific encounter as we reached them, mainly because the team refused to just figure out the mechanics on their own. Granted I wouldn't wish that on anybody with more modern raids since they seem designed to be esoteric and require guides to begin with.
>>573599142Every modern raid is designed to make it difficult to teach new players what's going on
>>573598986I'm still in awe that Verity was figured out as quickly as it was.
>>573595820Prismatic class items were the real fumble>Doesn't work on base subclasses>about 4 good combos for every class, the rest are garbage>nothing interesting like spirit of second chance letting Sunbreaker have a 2nd hammer that can stun barriers and weaken
>>573599034>Ff14 ultimates can be summed up in 15-20 minutesBecause the average ff14 ultimate clear is about 20 minutes long kek
>>573600472Yes but the point is despite being complex it can summed up fastPeople blow destiny mechanics out of proportion than what it actually is and inflate video time by a unnecessary amount of time
>>573600815It's not that the mechanics in Destiny raids are complex but that they are elaborate, meaning that they cannot be summarized very well.For instance, the first real encounter in Vow (totems) is very simple, but it has so many parts to it that you can't really shrink down the explanation much without it becoming confusing.
>>573600815>despite being complex
>>573599625would have been a great encounter if the game gave you any feedback at all that what you're doing is progressing anything
I might say the n word
>>573601509neomunda?
>>573601509ZAVALA GET DOWN!
>>573601629
>>573599034>Ff14 ultimates can be summed up in 15-20 minutesuh...
Honestly, it's kind of insane that the last 3 raids before Desert Perpetual were just the same fucking thing: Dread and Pyramids. 3 raids in a row of the same mechanics, the same locations and the same basic premise.In hindsight, the Pyramid ships sucked.
>>573601509AIAT
*Makes your experience playing the game miserable*
>>573566974As long as I preach the truth, your head canon will seem more and more like the mental illness it is.
>>573602139i throw this in front of people in arena ops
>>573601413>It's not that the mechanics in Destiny raids are complex but that they are elaborate, meaning that they cannot be summarized very well.Better way of putting it than "complex" even so for a first time guide of course mechanics are gonna be hard to summarize and from my experience the best way to teach a encounter is by making people actually do it. Guides should be made to give you a general ideas of roles, Buffs, debuffs etc more than time wasting trivia that occupys most videos. That lama guy has decent guides that show how they made their roles and how they handle mechanics which you can easily apply to retarded friends which is what I did
>>573601952Don't remind me of DSR please
>>573601579>>573601629>>573601958NIGGER
You're not actually supposed to look up guides for anything. You're supposed to figure it all out with your pals.
>>573602718I didn't have 5 friends.
You're not actually supposed to play the game. You're supposed to piss from your ass
>>573602718Game design has become too shit for this. 80% of the time you're chasing a waypoint Then 10% you might be able to figure out on your own and the other 10% you have no fucking idea because you don't have the secret sauce that took reddit a thousand years of trial and error to figure out. On top of that, all the terminology is abstract nonsense so when your friends try to explain it, it makes no fucking sense.
>>573600815No, the problem with Destiny Raids is that they never figured out how to do the mechanics right.The WoW team for example has a good law that mechanics should be easy to explain but hard to do in practice.In Destiny its always the fucking opposite. Encounters are easy but the mechanics are genuinely asinine to explain.
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK OOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>573602718That's doable for something like dungeon mechanics, but raid mechanics were becoming so obtuse that you would have spent days if not weeks trying to figure out mechanics blind, not in the least because the game does not clearly communicate success in most of the new encounters. You might be doing something right, but the game does not let you know it so you have no way of knowing what it is that you did right.
>>573603525Too little too late, but after contest mode ended, it would have been sick if they put up a dev run of a given encounter so they could explain the mechanics for people who want to be familiar with it externally before trying it.
>>573603525I agree and admit I used the wrong wording for my post
>>573602249Based.
What fucked up Destiny raids is the focus on puzzles. Every single encounter is some sort of hoop-jumping, ball-throwing or icon-matching bullshit and the actual shooter gameplay takes a backseat to all of this.Would it have killed them to have made bosses with actual BOSS mechanics that you had to look out for while you are shooting at the boss instead of the banal "solve puzzle, shoot stationary boss" loop?
>>573604151Multitasking is too hard for the average player
>>573604151I think actively doing a mechanic during dps can be fun.Riven actually nails this with allowing you to damage throughout the entire puzzle chunk and then getting a huge chunk at the end.The legitimate only problem with Riven is that shooting the wrong eye wipes.Make it just kill the person who shot it, and have riven immediately retreat.
>>573603525To play this raid you have to memorize TWENTY-SEVEN DIFFERENT SYMBOLS beforehand,You must somehow infer that "antumbra" means right and "penumbra" means leftYou need to somehow get three dimensional shapes from a 2D projection with no in-game explanation >The most fun part of a raid to some people is the mere fact that not everyone can do them
>>573604151>Would it have killed them to have made bosses with actual BOSS mechanics that you had to look out for while you are shooting at the bossYou think you want this but it's actually fucking garbage and only works in 3rd person games where you can actually see whats going on around you
>>573604151It would have been great to have something like a Hive boss where it's just a huge knight in a hive abyss where the players are on a circular platform that encircles the boss and have to dodge different sword swing patterns and soulfire patches while locating the knight's worm somewhere on his body and shooting at it until it relocates and causes the knight to speed up its attacks and change the attack patterns to more difficult ones. In its final stages of life, the worm begins to constantly shift location on the knight and the knight goes completely berserk. When the worm dies, the knight drops its massive sword which creates a bridge to flee the platform before he detonates in a massive explosion of soulfire.Naturally, getting hit or spending more than a second or so in soulfire would be lethal.
>>573604582
>>573605389Vesper bosses are just poorly designed in general. It has nothing to do with the perspective. The lightning clusterfuck in the final encounter would be just as cancerous in the third person as it is in first.
it's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXIIEv6AiSg
>>573604151Exhibit A: The Corrupted
xur is selling devils ruin catalyst and a good roll ahamkara spine
>>573606207>thetaFucking physics nerds.
imagine raids and dungeons had custom themed hud elements to display buffs and shit rather than a bit of plain text
>>573606763>good roll ahamkara spineDidn't they kill this thing like years ago?
>>573607052yeshavent used it since
What's a comfy hunter dps build? I'm seeing lots of double sniper golden guns, but that seems like a pain for pre dps ad clear
the bright engram focusing is too pricey
>>573604151Because why design a raid where players can just ignore the mechanics and kill the boss?Last wish is a great example of how this falls apartyou now remember Kali farming lol>>573605845>The lightning clusterfuck in the final encounter would be just as cancerous in the third person as it is in first.ffxiv proves this wrong lmao
>>5736075951k speedloader crackshotEnjoy spamming dodges
>>573607901Is that actually usable though? You'd have to be the only 1k, dodge within a well, without getting in front of people. Seems like ass.
>>573607658Yeah I can't get enough bright dust to justify it.
There's nothing to buy in this game
>>573607963You dont need to be constantly spamming your dodges for dps its primarily to get radiant out to everyone and reloading your weapons as needed. Have to be careful with your 1k shots obviously but so would you have to be careful with rockets. If your concerned about ad clear with still hunt just equip a kinetic with tremors that should burst down most majors. Submission is really good at doing that in pantheon. Vow linear and pitch of heresy linear is also really good or you can be a basic bitch with QB
>>573608356Get back to work Nathan
I don't care about armor sets
>>573608669But how are you supposed to have fun with buildcrafting?
>>573565035>>573566974>Ikora is now the sole leader of the Vanguard>the game is dead in orbitDE wonNM wonFWC LOST
Armor sets would be fun to play around with in a D1 style sandbox where shit like "kills per magazine" is actually important and the best exotic in the game is just a sniper that regenerates its own ammo over time.They're just too little too late now
Average hunter mains be like: https://files.catbox.moe/c3qw9n.mp4
letting speds have access to the internet was a mistake
>>573607694>Because why design a raid where players can just ignore the mechanics and kill the boss?The boss itself would have mechanics that you would need to do while fighting it. Let's take a very simple example from MMOs. Two players are chosen to be the target of energy balls that chase them around. These players will need to position themselves in such a way that the balls collide, but must do so without the balls then making contact with the other fireteam members and potentially killing them. A mechanic that requires players to be aware of their positioning and reposition as needed, all without turning it into an elaborate puzzle that requires several ciphers or callouts.>ffxiv proves this wrong lmaoFFXIV has clear telegraphs even when there is a lot going on. It is near impossible to tell where the lightning areas in the Vesper encounter begin and end because the particle effects bleed into eachother. If there were clear rings around the AOEs (the current rings of the same kind of electricity as the strike itself bleed into eachother), that would make the fight a hundred times more bearable, and it is how most MMOs handle ground AOEs.
>>573609225i didn't know the human anus can stretch that far
>>573609651>pop my super >oh sorry bro you're a ball chaser this pull teehee!>raidmates delete the boss before I get to do damage>Endscreen:>Damage Dealt to Raidoidius The Ass-Pissed: 0
What's the point of running this shit above expert? the rewards don't seem to change. Only the stress levels.
>>573536947>try to jew marty out of his shares>lose>try to jew barret out of his shares>losesensing a pattern there
>>573610264Why would you assume the bosses would be so frail that they would be deleted during a single rotation of a single mechanic?
>>573610851>Why would you assume the bosses would be so frailbecause its literally already happened
I mean if you really want the whole vulnerable bosses in a activity thing just make it like destiny 1 atheon where he has a bazillion health/DR that you need the times vengeance buff to kill him effectively
Nothing would be less enjoyable than sitting in a room shooting at a raid boss for 5 minutes while 2 retards run around doing mechanics
Destiny 2 has so many braindead NPCs playing that I've begun to think actual bots in lobbies would be in improvement
>>573610514if you want tier 5 shit. that's it.
>>573611250The whole discussion revolves around a hypothetical situation in which Bungie was a competent developer that knows how to design encounters. You'll have to suspend your disbelief.
>>573525908>and why did they never fix it?I don't think they know how to. Look at Marathon's "tutorial", its even worse than Destiny and it somehow how less to teach and less to introduce and has more familiar mechanics to the FPS genre. Marathon's mechanics come from the wider umbrella of shooters, Destiny has to teach you shit that originates in an MMO or RPG or MOBA when it comes to cooldowns, abilities, stats, certain exotic perks, synergies with effects and elements.Like, if they can't even do Marathon barebones shit, they never could've done Destiny.Not like its hard, they wouldn't have this problem if they kept the campaigns. Lord knows that they figured out campaigns mattered when it came to introducing mechanics or subclasses because Beyond Light, Lightfall and Final Shape are boring shitty tutorial sections on how to use Stasis, Strand and Pissmatic. It was too little too late though, and now everyone hates having to go through the campaigns to unlock it all, and then on top of that you have to do all the Pale Heart bullshit for Pissmatic still. They're just completely clueless
>>573611797Yeah thats why encounters like verity, rhulk, totems, caretaker, deathsinger, crota, daughters, warpriest, atraks, and taniks are nice because majority of the players in those encounters are doing something instead of just ad clearHell witness only needs 2 runners while everyone else ad clears
>>573611985My response is that if I wanted to fight a boss that's got nothing going on and we mag dump it while doing minor mechanics, I'd just run a fucking strike
so many jobbers playing this game rnall they can do is slide and shootbut they have no ability to headshot and no idea what guns to use
>>573612234This is why GoS is the best raid
>>573612483Goodpoint other than second encounter being a snoozefest>2 builders>4 runners
>>573567957>>573568040So the nerfed damage is completely intentional, huhI have to farm that shit for my Blade, too (plus anons said its the best for Light Levels atm) Guess its just Behemoths and i'll go fuck myself if a objective is indoors?
Erebos Glance is a superior shader to Superblack for the all-black look and yet everyone who wants that uses Superblack anyway.
>>573612246>Fight a boss that's got nothing going on and we mag dump it while doing minor mechanicsAs opposed to doing Simon Says for several minutes to get a 15 second window to magdump a boss that does absolutely nothing but stands there dazed? In fact, the Witness dps phase is a good example of what I mean. You are damaging the boss, but the boss is actually doing something that you need to pay attention to or you fucking die. Now imagine if that was something you could do for the whole encounter and he had ten times as many things he could do, each requiring a different response. Would that not be preferable to chasing his hands around for however long until you get to actually fight him again?
>>573612745>All black look>Literally makes parts of your gear orange
>>573612745Let's see Paul Allen's fit
>>573612779>Now imagine if that was something you could do for the whole encounter and he had ten times as many things he could do, each requiring a different responseThat sounds fucking awful dude.I love hearing the "please jump now" sound and then instantly hearing 2-3 GUARDIAN DOWNs because people are too retarded to jump and also move forward at the same time
>>573612985Oh no, dmg_04 please save us from the lying shader icons. Anyway you can actually see the definition of the armor instead of a blurry dark grey mass and it gives any glowing parts an orange tint rather than flat white.>reeee the forearm underweavedont care, still a better black shader for it
the all-black look is for lame gaylords
Why have trannies been busy talking about XIV in this thread?
>>573613589That's a player issue, not a design one. If your reasoning is that encounters should be puzzleslop because that way less people will fail the mechanics and die, that's a pretty weak justification. Raids should be the hardest content in the game and since the game is a first person shooter, that difficulty should mainly come from shooting and movement, not collecting shapes or calling out pictures.
>>573613736Agreed, but I don't get the appeal of Superblack when Erebos and Shadegleam are right there and do a better job if that's what you want. It looks like your guy/gal got carried away with a sharpie rather than looking evil and scawwy
Monoshader is ghey
>>573614031because it's actually all black rather than almost all black
>>573612779>As opposed to doing Simon Says for several minutes to get a 15 second window to magdump a boss that does absolutely nothing but stands there dazed?If you feel nothing when the boss gets made mortal while the music flares into the DPS version of the track then you have no soul, frankly
>I can reliably disconnect myself from breaking too many stasis crystalsBravo Bungie
>>573614514But its a SHITTIER black It's not even the darkest one! reeeeeeeeee
>>573614618There's nothing stopping phase changes from happening in an active fight. You could have all the musical cues you want without any of the dilly dallying and beating around the bush.
>>573604151Puzzles aren't a problem its the type of puzzles that are absolute bullshit are the mentioned icon-matching bullshit. I'll play devil's advocate and say Verity is over complicated for what it is, but the concept isn't actually that bad. The shit in Vow can absolutely go fuck itself, however. We're talking about 27 symbols of which anyone could come up with wildly different names for at least 5-7 of them, and even if just one person doesn't have the same call-out for one of the icons you are near guaranteed to get into an argument about semantics. Imagine if they put 27 Hive runes into a raid, that raid would be fucking impossible because people don't even use the same phrases or descriptors even for the simplest shapes imaginable.I've written a dissertation of how different cultures identify sketches and can understand/label objects so its hilarious (in a "what the fuck were Bungie thinking" way) to me when you see people saying symbols that are relatively close to the one you know it as, but then you have to think if there's another symbol exactly what they're describing. Confidence is the one thing that people who haven't raided or had many runs in a raid are going to lack and you have to be confident in your knowledge or you'll constantly double-back on a graphic which leads to delays which leads to wipes.To an extent if they actually just came up with some bullshit meanings to the Hive runes and put them in-game in some lore book then again I would have no complains. But Hive speech, runes and all the hive stuff has been given flowery meanings which make no sense and just put around where there's no contextual continuity.
What are some fun and Must have exotics out of the ones I am missing? Melas-Panoplia and Point-Contact both sounds really fun, and I am currently enjoying ARC using the new cahrged melee attack, it feels pretty fucking good ngl, it's a bit wonky when mobs are right in your face though. The other hands also sounds neat with the throwing hammer returning to you
In case you're a Barbie Dollhouse enjoyer, Dreaming Cast looks fucking insane on the Iron Banner chest. I'm guessing it's the same for other classes/pieces
>>573604151>>573615014Leviathan is and will always be the best raid D2 ever had. The Gauntlet fight was all the best aspects of a raid front and center, god I fucking loved that fight, and the final spurt trough the gauntlet was always fun as hell, Being the only warlock in my old raid team, it was pure suffering at times if I didn't jump quick enough when the floor started sinking, since i couldn't get any upwards momentum. Gliding to my death while everyone was having fun about it is a fond memory of mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9E-Dp6qEb8>The Worst Acquisition in Gaming History
>>573615051icefall mantle - best stasis exotic rncuirass of the falling star - essential for damage no backup plans - if you like shotgunsloreley splendor - reliable for solar titans
>>573530518The exotic weapon list he has is so funny.>S is only Tractor Cannon>A is only Choir, Parasite, and Still Hunt>almost everything else is in D to FAnyway a lot of his rankings are highly questionable, and since it disregards certain weapons' places in damage rotations you can disregard a good amount of it.Also>rating based on Day 1 viability when we're not getting them anymore
>>573615051Icefall: Niche build that can make you into an unkillable Stasis tank. Kind of boring.Fucked up mask thing: Solid subclass agnostic exotic that is kind of useless next to specific buildsCuirass: One of Titan's best exotics by virtue of the fact is makes your T-Crash do a fuck ton of damage. Boring thoughFlamey Strides: Useless, meh in PvPShotgun Arms: Has numerous good builds but they're all void shotgun shit.Stasis Chest: Cant even remember what it does, but it's shitLorelei's Splendor: Basically makes bonk hammer Solar builds go from solid to S-tier. Also funSecond Chance: Only useful for meme shield throw builds, pretty shitPCCB: Extremely good and fun. Turns your thunderclap punch into a "kill everything forever" buttonCadmus Cap: It's ok. Lets you spam stasis spearsEyeball legs: It's ok for Strand, just improves your neutral game via suspending barricades but doesn't really do anything specialArbor Chest: Meme as fuck but kind of cool. Shit thoughPyrogale: Basically just makes the Hammer slam super actually good. Kind of meh overallStrand Slashy arms: There's some unique niche builds for this that work with Banner. They're decent.Rocket chest: Only useful for niche DPS builds. Kind of fun.Blastwave strides: DogshitMelas Panop: Cool as fuck and funJetpack chest: Never used it. Seems more like a gimmicky fun thing than anything
>the true YHTBT items aren't Y1 emblems, emotes or cosmetics>it's Y2 legendary weapon ornaments that were sold for silver one (1) time and for BD one time after thatLol, lmao
>>573589598They're fucked up Psions that the Shitness made into mini-disciples. They even have some of the Shadow Legion bling still on them if you spawn them in the firing range.
>>573605389Witness is a much better example that actually works well.And also highlights the fact that literally all you can do is jump or move around to avoid shit.What WOULD be fucking sick is if they didn't pussy foot around the MMO aspect and made it so teams required certain loadouts and classes.IE, encounters where the boss does a fuckhuge unavoidable AOE and you MUST use Well to survive, or an encounter where a Titan must use his barrier to protect from a single target giant DPS snipe, shit like that
>>573615341Leviathan also doesn't have symbols that are complicated nor easy to mix up. None of them look like each other, all of them are objects you've seen previously in the raid up to that point. I know it sounds like I'm saying destiny players are retards who can't identify things but I'm more saying that things getting complicated are down to when you have to remember more than 15 things at once + be confident in your knowledge. Again, Vow doesn't do that at all. D1 + early raids of D2 are pretty good at building up mechanics or knowledge so when you get to the last phase of an encounter or boss, its the combination of things you've done in the build-up to that part, with expanding out the things you might have to do.Daughters into Oryx, Leviathan is basically all just one knowledge build up to Calus, VoG introduces the Aegis, the Oracles, the plate captures so when you get to Atheon you know what you're doing. Wrath has the wipe mechanics of the final boss fight taught to you midway through the raid.Maybe it was the idea of checkpoint farming or checkpoints as a whole becoming super common on LFG/groups that they changed up how raids progressed and built up your knowledge, I dunno, but there's a reason why VoG, King's Fall, Leviathan and the earlier raids are ones you can teach another player relatively easy. Sure, you could stick them on ad clear but just learning oracles on VoG gives you knowledge for Atheon, there's no reason not to.
>do a master lost sector on nessus>barrier champions hold hands and intantly but their bubbles back up after I pop itwoooowI killed them anyway fuck these guys
HOW THE FUCK YOU BREAK SHIELD ON FUCKING BARRIER SERVITORS WITH PRAXIC BLADE ITS FUCKING RETARDED SHIT IT MISSES EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SWING I FUCKING HATE THIS FUCKING SHIT FUCKING GAME FUCK THIS DOGSHIT FUCK FUICK FUCAKFUJAFUASUFASF
>>573617326he said calmly
>>573616309FFXIV and Lost Ark (and I'm sure other games too) featured clashes, which were pretty much minigames a player could (and often had to) commit to to stop the boss from wiping the group or destroying a part of the area the fight takes place in. I see no reason why a Titan couldn't, for example, keep the Witnesses fist from making contact with the ground while the rest of the fireteam fires at it so he is forced to recoil. Or a warlock could use the praxic fire to light up a lightless abyss and guide the fireteam through the dark.
>>573616075you are a troubled individual
>>573616075>PCCB: Extremely good and fun. Turns your thunderclap punch into a "kill everything forever" buttonIt works against itself because enemies killed by the initial lightning strikes do not count as melee kills and therefore do not refund melee energy.
>>573617326Use the force
>>573615051>>573616075Loreley hasn’t recovered from the gigarape it got in witch tbqh
>>573617326Throw it you dipshit
>>573616075>Melas Panop: Cool as fuck and fundidn't rate them for builds so clearly they suck
>>573617501My bad, I forgot you're not allowed to put effort into anything on 4chan anymore and just have to make pointless inflammatory posts like yoursNigger>>573617672All you have to do is stack melee damage, and make sure you're going to kill whatever you're aiming at. IE target big groups of enemies
>>573618118you don't even know what i'm talking aboutbut you have proven you are incredibly insecure lmao
>>573618206shut up nigger
>>573618206shut up nigger 2x
>>573618118The point is that the lightning strikes kill most of the group before you release the punch, which will end up in the actual punch only killing a few enemies and therefore often refunding so little melee energy that you do not get a charge back.
>>573618118People like this are exactly the same type that get in bungie and make shit games and threaten to kill themselves over the slightest sign of criticism, pushback or dissatisfaction. They cannot conceive of the idea that any of it is valid. They will instead jump to the conclusion that the critic is broken and either needs fixing or destruction. Troubled at the very least.
Poster below is troubled by me
Is Health a dead stat for all classes/builds?
>>573617326
>>573619368You are in BIG trouble, mister!
>>573616075You wear high heels.
>>573619368It's literally only useful in red/yellow/brown minigameYes, it is a dump stat for all PvE builds everywhere because Bungie are retarded
>>573619368I like being healed to full with every orb I pick up and for health regen to start several seconds earlier, so I invest into health everything that doesn't go into my so-and-so "main" stats.
>>573619368I'm no speedclear grinder but it seems like the benefits of the Health stat are better met using builds and abilities to cover healing/damage reduction.
i hate health
>>573619142>I know, ill samefag, that'll show himStop being a nigger, nigger
>>573602718Was able to do this in the first time in years with the people I have playing and it's kind of fun. If I didn't get lucky though I would just pull up a guide and immediately join KWTD raid groups and troll them until I get it. Waiting for learner raids sucked.
>>573618118u mad
>>573619991>5no you don't
>>573616075i hate every single "makes your super do 2x damage" exotic
>>573605845>have fun trying to see OHK yellow lightning in a yellow lit arena
If your health aint 0 you are getting kicked
>>573624858monkaS
>>573624858I'm fuckin trying but the game KNOWS what I want and takes great pleasure in denying it from me.
>>573612198>Marathon's tutorial>as you approach the exfil beacon, you are attacked by 2 bots>the hint suggests using your rocket super against them>if you are stupid enough to just follow it, you will be locked in a long-ass casting animation>it doesn't protect you against damage like Destiny supers did>you are very likely to get downed, and since there is no one to help you, the bots will finish you off with some weird rape tentacles>after that you begin the tutorial from scratch
>>573616309>create melee-only supers>create bosses that stomp, stomp with napalm or fly over bottomless abyss
Choir of one is pretty neat but maybe onslaught is the play.
>>573626653I just wish it had a greater ammo reserve, Chaperone could really do with it too.
Is this gun any good? And If I spend a cipher on it, will I have to get the BP it came from if I want it's catalyst?
how many runs did it take you to get the taken crystal?
>>573627575i didn't play it as much as the other dungeons, took me 16 clears
>>573615748Isn't the Cutthroat the same delta as day 1 contest?
>>573624858gulp
>>573630575Delicious
>>573630575
>>573627451extremely mid
>Bungie had a game that looked like this and turned it into fortnitemarvel's avengers
>>573627451nah the perk is obnoxious as hell to play around and risk runner does it's job better
>join group>told them im gonna swap character>swap character>oh wait they are Playstation players>thats alright they have their bungie name in the cha>fireteam private Oops looks like im not coming back anytime soon
>Join LFG for Ultimate run>One teammate is decent but not great>One teammate is deadweight and has no idea what's going on>We get fairly far but they both die>Repeat x100 until you get two competent teammates and then the run is a complete breezewaow
I wish they would've just allowed the whole no helmet thing in every moment instead of just no combat zones, I wanted to jerk off to my awoken femhunter tummy with ponytail
>>573634427this is an awful example
>>573635031warframe is over there, bud
who raped ziegler?he's been radio silent
>>573634586Very retarded that there isn't a recently played with on the roster
>>573635485I gaped him.
>>573635485as part of the barret case, his name was added to the marathon credits as original marathon director. ziegler is mad about it.
Are we watching the Tennocon kino?
>>573635485Bungie raped him, and then Sony got sloppy seconds.
>>573635581warframe is worse and even faggier than destiny
>>573635686based truthteller
>>573635581>90%+ fatties in the cosplay competitionlmao
How did we go from this...
To this?
I'm glad our general is still coherent enough to use and hasn't devolved into constant mumbo jumbo where no real conversations take place
Point Contact Cannon Brace and Thunderclap are cool but I still struggle to see a point to it. It really should let you regain melee from any lightning strike, bolt charge, weapons that do lighting bolts and so forth.
I want to JERK OFF to some destiny BITCHES do we even have cosplayers to jerk off to
Where is that little faggot? I want my catalyst.
>>573637751What is this about and what catalyst
>>573637097
>>573637975Gjallarhorn catalyst I think, there are special figgers you need to kill to open caches
>>573637975Gjallarhorn catalyst, there are 3 special vandals that drop the cursed engrams which you need to open 3 chests, you get those 3 chests and you get your catalyst but for some reason the third vandal hasn't shown himself yet.
they made a fucking star wars dlc bro what the fuck were they thinking im glad they're on the verge of being homeless now
>>573637984this warlock has a penis
>>573639048In isolation a fair few parts of STAR WARS are cool. Lightsabers are cool, Jedis are cool (well some of them), it has cool spaceships, even the Force is cool.
>>573637984yeah that'll work
>>573639440This NIGGA uncool as fuck.
>>573639048Basing it off Star Wars was lame as fuck but it was still better than EOF Fagi & Kepler as a whole.
>>573611916See now if the Vex actually looked like this then they'd be the one faction I'd actually allow to stay in the tower. Vex milk for the whole fireteam.
Maybe the lake was a metaphor
sick reference
>>573643148thanks :)
>>573639440Parts of Renegades that were terrible:Literally all of the dialogue from Drifter, Eris, and BaelEvery single section of the campaign excluding the Praxis Temple and the "trench run" finaleHorrificaly bad cutscenesThe really lame introduction and subsequent forgetting of a new Red Legion But Worse factionThe shadersParts of Renegades that were surprisingly fun/good:Aunor (sans her outfit)Exotic missionMars activitiesThe lightsaber (mostly because it's OP as fuck but the throw is cool)New weapon classIf they had done literally all of this except not slapped a Disney tag on it with shitty characters, it would've been kino
>>573641329It still feels crazy looking at the description for EoF and the fact they had 1 jetpack fallen and the 1 new vex enemy listed as it were content really just spelt out how fucked we were.
>>573643857Vex imps were also very obviously rushed with how jank they are. They don't have the smoothness that all other enemies have.
>>573643849I normally hate phrasing shit as such because I'm autistic and need things precise and correct in their semantics and experience, but the light saber kinda was almost like a "new subclass". It made the combat interesting enough and added a layer onto it if you wanted to approach things with it. It's obviously a total gimmick and mover for the DLC(though now I'd say it's that heavy sniper and the other heat sniper), but like idk it feels satisfying when so much in 3rd person/sword Destiny could feel kinda clunky and weird.
>>573643857>TFS comes out>Not a month later there's like 10 important Bungie directors and decision makers who were just in the previous teasers announcing their departure over twitterThey saw the signs early and so should you have
>>573643849All I'm saying is, parts of STAR WARS are cool in and of themselves but not necessarily a good addition to anything. Renegades may be shit, and SW be a total mess now but that doesn't make it trash across the board.And also I think seeing a faggots prancing around and twirling his praxic blade is gay despite me genuinely thinking the lightsaber is cool as fuck. Get that out of my game.
I never understood why people mentioned the Destiny 2 filesize being one of the reasons why we needed to sunset stuff when currently the biggest .pkg files in the game are video/cutscene ones. Probably about 30GB of cutscenes and videos alone. That's also not counting the audio and dialogue you're forced to install under different languages. I get I'm bringing it up when the game is dead and no one's gonna work on it anymore but it sucks they never let us remove unused language packs. Then again they never added search bars anywhere in the UI so of course that would never happen.
Tex Mechanica is obviously a white, American company but Bael's real name is Nazaire Bizet?
>>573646303Sounds French
>>573645827Because it's an excuse that sounds like it would make sense at the surface level and most people can't be bothered to think beyond that. And only a minority will give a fuck about it, and even fewer people of that minority are willing to boycott a company for a stupid decision. And no, no matter how "big" that boycott seems on the internet, it does not represent the majority of players actions. Otherwise the video game industry wouldn't be pulling off worse and worse anti-consumer practices by the year.
The last time I bought something and didn't feel at least slightly scammed was when I pre-ordered Forsaken's Deluxe Edition.
>>573646386>And no, no matter how "big" that boycott seems on the internet, it does not represent the majority of players actions. Otherwise the video game industry wouldn't be pulling off worse and worse anti-consumer practices by the year.So how do fuck do parents succeed in boycotting? Almost every successful boycott I hear is because it comes from parents. Mostly moms that get shit done. Should we call our moms to do the job for us?
>>573646848The issues the moms fight are not the same issues that gamers have, anon. Most of them bitch about trivial shit like vulgar content on a product that the company can easily edit out of.
I've heard there's a way to fuck with your engram focusing to get whatever armor you archetype you want from the different vendors, might be a good time to get a luminopotent set for those ionic traces but I'm not quite sure about how it works.
Again with the fucking Down to Business ornament? It hasn't even been a month since the last one.
>>573648286We had the same ornament twice in the same week, safe to say the system is kinda fucked. Or deliberately shit.
what's the hunter helmet that looks more like a face? no i'm not using the marathon one
>>573605782
>>573649224Well I can tell you where my mind immediately went but otherwise, no idea.
>>573649393A white man made these call outs
>Exodus Down paired with crackshot build makes you unkillable and causes explosions everywhereAnd people say Hunter doesn't have good builds
>>573649741Hunters are spoiled as fuck. 'member when stasis warlock and titan got nerfed in pvp while shatter dive remained untouched for the longest of times
>>573649741I like it but I need to make more orbs
>>573627575first clear but I didnt get heirloom until I solo flawlessed with wormgod one two punch cheese
>>573619991No you don't
>>573650710>not perfect paradox
>>573650830Don't talk to me or my child.The moon shotty rolled with higher stats in every collumn than any PP i've gotten to drop in the tier system with o2p.
>>573651318>abandoning your child for a fatter option Nigger behavior
what's the deal with sundered doctrine encounters anyway, I gave up trying to bruteforce the lens one
>>573651318PP has built-in graverobber. Get to farming.
>>573649393>asian pussyI chortled
You now remember your favorite weapon, Bastion
>>573649612American man*A European would call the burger "Thermally processed comminuted beef sandwich" or some weird exotic shit just to spite us.
>>573652572Kek
>>573651839I'd rather use Perfect Paradox over Bastion any day.
>>573649393
>>573651839I used it in crucible for years before beyond light. Was always a favorite of mine, but even with all of the buffs, it still needs something more to be relevant in the current sandbox. >it being THE GUARDIANS GUN>doesn't count as an exotic weapon allowing you o equip an energy or heavy exotic as well>Kinetic Tremors if all rounds in a burst hit>actual graverobber and swashbuckler>fires through barricades, bubble, instant barrier pop on top of being an unstoppable stun, instant break of all shields like arbalest if all shots hit. Any of those 4 would make it something worth using.
>>573651839Weird way to spell Jotunn.
>>573651839That entire plot point of writing characterization for (you) was awful and should have never happenedMake it Saint's gift to the Guardian or some Vex portal fuckery to make it happen from an alt universe, not force the player character into "THIS is your favorite, not your actual favorite weapons, you like THIS ONE."My grave will be adorned with Fighting Lion, and it will make the "kachunk" sound when you open it.
any other fusion rifles with scopes like the epicurean? i sort of want to get into them for pvp since i usually only use shottys or snipersalso kind of sad the black armory fusion looks so fucking good but is apparently the defacto worst dogshit archetype possible for red minigame
>>573655529>My grave will be adorned with Fighting Lionactually its adorned with Ergo Sum, sweetiei love both lion and sum so im fine with both choices
>>573655529agreed but Its stupid that they chose bastion of all things. If our favorite weapon was said to be khovostov, vex mytho, outbreak, G horn, or one of the exotic swords I would've been down for it but some random fusion that fires slugs is the guardians favorite weapon of all time? Fuck outta here
>>573651839fuck u nigga my favorite weapon is anarchyno really in my head canon that's my titan's favorite weapon, is anyone else enough an autist to actually characterize their guardians
>>573657080>is anyone else enough an autist to actually characterize their guardiansyes my titan is a striker at heart because he believes arc is the purest form of the light and still thinks of void as "borderline"
>>573656807If they chose literally ANY weapon there'd be people pissing and shitting about it like we are right now, because the chosen "canonical" favorite isn't THEIR favorite weapon, meaning their entire character is non-canon, which is not the promise in the entire rest of the game (the player character being THE main character 'The Guardian,' etc).The correct solution is to not choose any specific weapon to avoid the bad PR entirely and let the player choose his favorite weapon in his respective headcanon, not making anything official.Writing characterization for a blank slate character in the way The Guardian is is a bad thing.
>>573657653> still thinks of void as "borderline"Void's PR is largely saved by saint 14, its an insanely evil-coded element>Voidlock is soul sucking evil, black holes, snuffing out life>Voidhunter is duplicitous, going invis, debuffs, etc
i throw my hammer it make a bonk sound and it make firehappy
How the fuck does this work?
I barely remember Bastion. It's just "another exotic that released in a season I barely remember".
>>573659178It's your favorite weapon though. You use it all the time
>>573659178It was literally just the first special fusion rifle usable outside of the energy slot and Bungie decided it was the everyone's favourite.
>>573659159you get a random exotic perk paired with a random frameroll until you get the combination you want, example; arc conductor perk with the wave frame
>>573659269>>573659451This isn't even the first time this happened for me. I saw the guardian using the khovstov when he's about to shoot ghost at the end of lightfall, and I chuckled. I've never played D1, and I only did the new light intro days after that to finally unlock Ada's loom.
>>573659546And how would one go about finding more of these swords?
>>573659727matchmade overthrow in the pale heart and doing the pathfinder nodes in pale heart as well
any /study/bros in the chat?
>>573660335kinda looks like your hairline LMAO
>>573660335nobody cares about player count
Non-pvp exotic catalysts progress 5x faster on kill rate in crucible. I'm mentioning this because I only read it in one place and have observed it myself from playing red minigame. It's useless information, but I still wanted to post it.
>>573661038it is useless information because you could instead just put in the wish wall code for shuro chi and farm 70 kills in <2 minutes, stop on a plate to kill yourself and repeat.
>>573660819:(
>>573660819do NOT talk to anon like that
hey /dg/ how you doing? how goes the rape?
It's so over...
How do I kill this nigger?
>>573664251They recycled those guys from the Scourge raid this obviously?
>>573664351I wouldn't know, I don't play raids because I don't have any friends and I don't want to disappoint unknown people
>>573664251not telling
>>573664251You need another player
>>573664251He has two red panels, one in the front and one in the back, and in order to damage him you must destroy them both. I believe you can use outbreak to destroy the panels solo. That being said it looks like you're doing those co-op missions I think they're called so even if you do kill him you won't be able to beat the mission.
>>573664251Do you not have a teammate?I get it, are you trying to get one of us, your /dg/ buddies to help you?
Does Hunter have anything like Prismatic Warlocks Buddy build?I don't mean a summon build, but just a dumb "cant die lul" enemy melting machine buildI've only been playing my Warlock since i got back 2 weeks ago and i genuinely miss my dumb HunterI'd ask the same for titan, but Behemoth still exists
>>573664726>>573664776Fuck.>>573664808I'll take you up on that offer tomorrow as it's already quite late, glad to know I can ALWAYS trust /dg/.
What's the best way to farm xur bux?
>thoughtfulfuck you too buddy
>>573664962speedloader crackshot builds are what you want (specifically the festival flight versions). I personally don't think they're fun but some people love themAnd yeah titan has like 3 options like that (Prismatic, Strand, Statis)
>>573665781Sybau. You're lucky I even gave you a commendation
>>573665815I use blade barrage and deadshot because metas are fucking gay
>>573665815>specifically the festival flight versionsI am unaware, tell me more
>>573665815Ah fuck, is there any way to go for Speedloader specifically nowadays? I don't own every piece of Exotic armor
>>573666118Rahool, Ada if you have tickets
How does Actium War Rig interact with heat autos/MGs? Does it just remove some heat at intervals?
>>573666157I got 20 tickets but i actually need to -unlock- the thing first, sadly
>>573666370Rahool lets you do that if you're willing to pay for it (1 exotic engram and 1 exotic cipher) or there are some activities you can do that reward missing exotics I'm told, which in this case should be vex strike force?
>>573666571Oh i have the Novel Decryption from Final Shape, thats neatI still have to do Lightfall to unlock Strand eventually, too
>>573665113Pls respond I require more good boy coins
>>573664251you should be able to activate both buttons on that mob with just outbreak
>>573667532Honestly just do whatever portal activity you enjoy and you'll be swimming on them before long.
>want to make hunter build>die due to horrible survivability>go back to crackshot/prismatic buildIt is what it is
>>573666571You can get anything pre-EoF from vex strike forces or exotic engrams. Xur also sells newer equipment and you can buy those to unlock them.
>>573668140Boring. You're boring.
>>573665921this roll + queensfoil artifact
>>573668406I dont feel bored so thats what matters*cracks you*
>>573668575Harder daddy.
>>573668470Naruhodo Well sadly I don't have that combo but in time surely
>>573668969A warlock typed this
>>573669447?
yeah this mod isnt broken as shit at all
>>573669816Who cares
>>573670245you cared enough to reply
>>573668470>Legendary Witherhoardman i really have been gone for a while huh
>2022>people are using Cataclysmic in high-end PvE>2026>people are using Cataclysmic in high-end PvEThis really is just perfect proof that crafting was a mistake, huh.
>see YT short of cross getting annoyed with a torsos health statwait... is health useless? have i been gimping myself?
>>573672203its useless outside of PvPin PvE there are four dozen different ways to regen health, there is no need for "health regens faster/orbs heal more/ stat.
>>573672203Yes, 100 resilience was a necessity once upon a time, but now all damage resist is verb based and health stat doesn't increase your health, just how potent your heals are. So putting any points into it is a waste, because waiting for your natural regen isn't a thing in pve, and orbs for heals isn't a thing in pve.
https://x.com/realH00N/status/2075843818352763053lmao
>>573675219I'll give it 3 weeks
why was the traveler able to kill ghaul in red war but later on in the final shape it was shown to be incapable of damaging it's enemies and ended up mutating them instead (or in nez's case reviving his corpse)>>573672203>health stat 1-100 makes orbs heal more when picked up>health stat 101-200 gives you up to 20 more max shields.not entirely useless, but it doesn't help much. most pve builds will use some form of damage resistance effects from fragments, the passive artifact perks, or armor set bonuses. you can also use healing perks from weapons to sustain yourself, or healing abilities from your subclass. the general idea is that in pve, health is the dump stat and loads of builds run 0 health. to contrast, in pvp health is the most important stat because natural regeneration is very useful, having more resistance to flinch is very nice, and having that extra 20 shield hp (when your hp bar is white, not red) can affect the time to kill of certain weapons against you. furthermore, the weapons stat is heavily nerfed in pvp and considered the dump stat there. effectively this gives you a reason why you would/wouldn't want health or weapons on your gear.
>>573675219I dont have shitter on my phone so I cant view the vid. What's this do, force a damage phase as soon as the encounter starts?
>>573675620>why was the traveler able to kill ghaul in red war but later on in the final shape it was shown to be incapable of damaging it's enemies and ended up mutating them instead (or in nez's case reviving his corpse)It is left open to interpretation. Hon hon.
>>573676256yea
>>573675620I think by the time Nez is canonically happening, the Witness is actually guiding the Light to revive him. I guess if you wanted an extreme stretch you could argue that Nez should be opposed to the Witness and that's why he's left in gem jail on the capital ship until the Traveller disabled it.
>>573676256
>>573677269I guesd you could argue* as reasoning for if the traveller intentionally did it*
>>573524964What if microsoft buys it again but forces destiny 3?
>>573524964Bungie could have thrown in a third darkness subclass before getting axed
is it possible to get previous event shaders still? the shader preview from the eververse engram only seems to show off eververse shaders. some of the previous fotl and dawning shaders are really nice.
i get that bungie's THE first person shooter developer, but going to xur's treasure horde always makes me think it'd be cool if destiny had a 3rd person mode
the only thing that sets something like the taken king opening cinematic and the lightfall opening cinematic apart is the fact that one actually shows a giant fleet attacking the enemy and one doesn'tif they didn't dismantle all the city factions by they point they could have had a dead orbit fleet combined with a city and house of light fleet attacking the pyramid ships and failing instead of just amanda and two other unnamed guardians
>>573678628>it'd be cool if destiny had a 3rd person modeI've been saying this since 2014
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>>573658469Precisely why the light is evil and the darkness is better. Winnower should have turned the guardian to their thinking
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>frost pulse vesper of radiusI have come full circle, I have returned to my original build.But now it's actually not fucking bad considering there's no downtime, probably a dogshit build for environments where a shitload of enemies are shooting at you from afar though.
sorry bro but if your build can't solo conquest seraph shield it's shit I don't make the rules
With seasonal vendors gone who do i go to focus armor?
>>573678738it made sense in destiny 1, but in d2 they focus so much on armor design its a wonder why they didn't bother with it
Do I really have to complete campaigns again on my Alt? Is there no way to skip The pale-hearth Renegades and other campaigns? I honestly just want access to the patrol spaces, and the activities in themIs the case the same for unlocking Strand/stasis/prismatic? Will I need to complete the relevant campaigns for them too?
>>573683062gotta pay money I guess, also lmao what fucking patrol spacesthere's nothing to unlock in keplar or renegades
>>573683120Neptune
if you upgrade a weapon from tier 4 to tier 5 does it get an extra set of perks?
>>573683248oh, well the lightfall quest is pretty easy to shit out in an hour per character sure it's a chore but it's easy
>>573684090nah just gains those perk upgrades
>>573672064Nah you have to grind the void linear from POH because it does slightly more damage
>>573681798From lost sectors boiGet to grinding
>still find ace of spades to be the most fun hand cannon after all these yearsSomeone give me something new to try out. I haven't played the game in 6 years until a few days ago.
What would be the best generalist set I could farm from solo-content? Do I go for 4-set's or is there any good 2+2 combinations?
>>573687185turncoat is pretty cool
>>573688504europa 2pc and smoke jumper 2pc probablyor salvations edge 2pc
>>573688504Wait for grasp to come back into rotation but Europa 2 set is amazing and I like combining it with the grasp armor set because it gives you a flat 15% resist at 25 stacks you generate stacks fast with the amount of orbs you generate cause of the europa armor
>>573688618also exodus 4pc
Is Veles-Labyrinth the worst lost sector ever made?
>finally get the raid exotic I was grinding for>get every worthwhile catalyst >get the perfect T5 armor for my builds>
>>573686564Does it do more damage even with precision instrument or do I have to get elemental honing and use pissmatic
>>573672064Eyes Unveiled is better and easier to farm
>>573692731Its the origin trait with either instrument or honing obviously honing doing more damage with elemental debuffs but apparently instrument can hold its own
>Aegis tier list has Kindled Orchid as the best hand cannon in the gamePress X to doubt
>>573688618>>573688701Is the crystocrene set bonus that good? How long even is a "moderate" time and what even counts as "out of combat"?
>next weekly reset comes around>every dungeon is replaced with duality
>>573693067Basically how out of combat works for this set is>for a microsecond of not taking damage or dealing damage you generate more ammo and 1 orbAnd its very consistent its essentially popping class reaper for free with how consistent it is
>>573692986guy loves his void primaries
>>573692986This is the same guy who thinks Riptide and Lionfish are worse than Midha's Reckoning
>>573693378That's very goofy, guess ok throw a couple pieces on.
What is the point of master dungeons?Its just spongier enemies and champs with out any increase in loot or rarity
>>573694142Its so your able to get t5s when not featured nowAnd for the challenge I guess
>>573684335can you upgrade the perks on a curated roll weapon from 20 seasons ago?
Can I get some build recommendations for stasis titan? I'm using the Seven-Seraph set and Icefall-Mantle. My primary is the B7 with Headstone and firefly.
>>573620047?i really just want you to calm down and have some self awareness. if you don't like being called what you are then you should change.
It's another episode of I forgot to turn my controller on before launching the game so now I have to restart the whole ass game
>>573698085>controllerSo proud of you xister. Really brave to come out like this
>>573695764Use this and Fightning Lion to shatter crystals.
>>573691641bro, all your raid titles?
>>573691545almost all lost sectors that came after that one is worse
>>573698258Build seems really fun ngl, what would you recommend for my special slot?
>>573615135Dreaming Cast is just really good in general. It's kinda unreal how many people in this game are running pure black or white shaders, or are some brand of retard covered in RGB lights.
>>573678628>3rd person modesell more cosmetics too
>>573701718Black and white are good
>>573702406Sure, if you also understand that you need accents. Most people don't though and I constantly see people running completely black gear and it looks really bad.
>>573701598Antibarrier sniper.
thank goodness i bothered to save a decent eyes unveiledpoh is so boring
>>573704198heresy was such a dogshit seasoni cant believe people praise it so much
We will get a Destiny 3, because Destiny has always been us, the community, and we're still here, just like Bleach
>>573698258>>573695764With Icefall Mantle and Curative Orbs you can really forgo Grim Harvest to instead run Cryoclasm which gives you innate shattering and a third aspect slot. If you run the Grasp Armor set that gives you +260% melee energy off of a crystal and that basically makes Hunger redundant. Fissures just sucks ass. Conduction and Rime are pretty much essential but from there you have some decent options. With Fighting Lion I like Rending for the extra damage. Shards I like a lot paired with Shatter Grenade although with Cryoclasm it's probably a bit redundant but it does great damage and is satisfying to land. I really like Impetus with Lion to reload it if I happen to miss or with my heavy. The last one I'm a big fan of is Refraction to keep Class uptime since it basically becomes a full heal with Icefall + overshields if you go above 100. With the Grasp set I havent tested how low your melee can go and still be the same but I have gone as low as 50 just fine. For Heavy with Fighting Lion I like the A499 and for Special I use Mint.
>>573705941kek
>>573705987>just like Bleachis it finished yet?
New rumor dropped>>>/v/743106139
>>573706886fucking disgusting
>>573706886I will believe it because not only would it be funny, it would also be the final nail in Gearbox coffin. They are already on thin ice with the Borderlands franchise, doing console exclusives would fucking kill it right then and there.
>>573706886but borderlands is already a destiny style looter shooter?
>>573706038more
>>573706196Hell Arc will be announced once the final season finishes this summer.trust the plan
I love Destiny 2™ The Game made by Bungie®
>>573705941Its so funny how insincere palworld's goonbait creature designs are
>>573706886>bl1 remake by nu-bungie in the style of the worst borderlands game(bl4)
>>573706886unironically I've been wanting Gearbox to make a Destiny-style borderlands, they've basically got 70% if the formula down but they don't know how to make good boss/raid content so Bungie could assist there.Gearbox has down the gunplay, the gameplay, and characters/abilities, all abungie needs to provide is their knowledge on mmo-like mechanics for an FPS
So is outlaw and rampage/kill clip still the general best thing you want for primary weapons?
>>573707963yes :)
>>573708148The more things change the more they stay the same, I guess.
>>573708396yeah, I guess so...
>>573708148devious post
>>573707963nahgame is way more complicated nowbest shit is making orbs or ability energy
>>573707963If your a cockroach thats been under my couch for the last 10 years yeahWhen it comes to primaries they can mostly handle themselves against red bars so its better to get stuff like kinetic tremors for kinetics to burst down majors or for more ad clear for elemental weapons you would want incandescent, volt shot (or the other source of jolt upon rapid weapon hits), and destab rounds. Raid primaries can often roll with 2 good offensive perks like explosive payload and incandescent on zaoulis bane. Otherwise for a offensive + resource perk combo go for anything resourceful like slice, attrition orbs, demo, pugilist
>>573709627>If your a cockroach thats been under my couch for the last 10 years yeahI mean, if you couldn't infer that it's been a significant period of time since I last played then I don't know what to tell you. Otherwise thanks, that was the info I was looking for.
>>573706886fuck no. BL4 was shit, and I doubt they could ever make anything half as fun as Destiny. I'm also just fucking tired of the BL aesthetic, I only like their corpo designs
>>573691641You can now play the game.
What's with the red glow? Is this just cosmetic?
>>573713627yeah some BA weapons drop with extra red
>>573713716Weird. Shame it has perks I don't really care for.
>>573713627holofoil
>have gunner mod on>every armor drop is fucking siegebreakerim going to say the n word
>wanna farm armor>its getting tiresome I hate this grind
The biggest benefit to making a Destiny 3(assuming the devs just make destiny 1 again) is exotics wouldn't need to have some anti-champion capabilities to be useful
>>573721539Nigga, if curent bungie would make destiny 3 they would add another 3 types of champions, whith one of them being vulnerable only to the latest expansion/season exotic gun.
The extra effects on normal enemies like anti barrier going through some enemy shields is neat. The rest of the champion system is middling.
>>573723463champions are cancer. not being allowed to use weapons you like because you aren't hitting the 2 (or 3) effects you need to do content is dogshit. and worse if you do want to have fun with weapons you like, you need to roll alternates in the other slots to meet your anti-champion quotaalso>haha I'm going to start regenning hp while you're reloading your weapon that stuns me
dont need to reload my trusty onions saber
You can't convince me that the "desired" perks on weapons aren't weighted lower.
>>573728235Hasn't that been confirmed multiple times?
>>573728235doesn't lightgg tell you perk distribution on drops? the fact that some are at like 10% while others are 25% proves this
These kids and their lightsabers, when are they going to pick up a REAL sword.
Shit you dummies weren't kidding, Vex Mythoclast with the catty is very much an old reliable pick if you're in need of something that can take care of anti barrier and you just wanna do something different. I hate how even with some of the changes done, regular legendary primaries can still feel like such pea shooters
>>573705941Tassi has probably had the best 2 or so years of his life. The second he got immense creditability with all the shit the was dismissed as "internet rumors", "fake", "made up", "clickbait", he just hasn't let up. It's like do you want to be a bitch and get pissy over stuff Paul is saying in a few words, or get lead on and jerked around by Bungie's lying sack of shit ass?
>>573728982Straight downgrade to Wolfsbane :3
>>573707390rapechuds got to Paul and look at him now
It's bleak how Huckleberry is still "just" an exceedingly good primary even with its catalyst.Not even 4.5 perks (rampage, rampage, subsistence, kinetic tremors, half an Onslaught) could save it.Also, Revision Zero isn't even bugged, it just deals giga damage to champions innately on top of having disturbingly high base sniper damage.It does so much fucking damage that I'm beginning to suspect that it's manageed to powercreep Arbalest.
>>573675620Because the people who wrote D1 and Red War actually knew wtf they were doing and the people who wrote basically everything after are retarded cringe fags
>>573713627Ada pissed on the guns
>>573730416
>>573730416She should see a urologist. Either that or a SIVAfag.
>>573688504Exodus Down is the best, easiest to get. Otherwise you're looking at Raid sets Dungeon sets.But what you should really do is farm the subclass variant sets for each subclass.Luminopotent for Arc from VanguardSolstice engrams at the monuments for SolarEutechonology for Void, pinnacle opsAnd then Europa for Stasis and I think Neomuna has the Strand one
>>573697898>replying a day laterYou're the biggest pussy in this thread. You have nothing valuable to say and start seethe replying when called out. You reply late hoping I won't see it just to get the last word in and save your pathetic ego.You are a bitch. A pussy. A nigger. All three, in fact.This is my fucking general. You're a guest. You're a tourist. Know your place, kid. *spits*
>>573731045solstice set sucks
>>573731496Yeah but you get it basically for free and can easily "farm" specific pieces.I should've said the Rasputin set but whatever
>cool roll on weapon!>handling>cool roll on weapon!>handling>cool roll on weapon!>handling>cool roll on weapon!>handling>cool roll on weapon!>stability.... on a weapon that doesn't need it
>bungie reprising strikes
>>573732387what would you prefer?
Set bonuses were a mistake.
>>573732687I like them :)
>>573732685Range or stability most of the time, but my gripe is that I keep getting handling masterwork in 70% of my drops. Before it used to be like 30-40%
>>573733012You're also a Satania poster so your opinion is suspect at best.
>>573733085>Rangefor pvp?
>>573732428>make lake of shadows absolute dogshit to run, so much so people still to this day will leave upon matchmaking into it>arms dealer has unkillable FPS-bugged ships that roam around in numerous stages>inverted spire is just boring and takes more timeBattlegrounds fucking suck. They were "okay" as seasonal activities. They shouldn't be the default of the strike playlist though.
>>573733369Yes.
Why the fuck do missions rotate? The game is fucking done just let me grind what I want when I want.
>>573731231You're really upset by all this.
>>573730416Based.
>>573728527No.The perkgate shit back in revenant seemed to largely be a genuine mistake, as in the same dungeon where it was caught, both of the the most desirable rolls on one of the other weapons happened to fall in the "sweet" spot. Pyroelectric Propellant with Attrition orbs + jolting feedback.It was only really caught because of a combination of like 3 or 4 coincidences that made it noticeable and would have probably gone on undetected otherwise. >>573728886>people delete the shit rolls and keep the good rollsuh,,, yea?
Holy fuck the light grind is awful. Just getting to 500 is going to take weeks.
>>573733303I've never posted satania in my life
>>573735881why do you need to be at 500?
>>573736121I've been repeatedly denied from fireteams for stuff and got kicked earlier so at this point I can only assume that I either don't do the stuff I want to do, or only play stuff with matchmaking.
Any cool /dg/ger wants to help me get my Microcosm? I'm only missing all three of the missions and whatever may come after. I'll be here for the next 8 hours. >>573664808Time to pay up.
>>573730401come on man the red war's writing was terrible, were you not around for the entire year where people picked it apart to death? it was well received by normies initially but disliked by fans.
>>573664251>>573736765you can hit him with dragon's breath no cata needed.
>>573736449You're looking at it wrong. Retards are willingly filtering themselves from playing with you. Be glad you don't have to spend time with retards and keep fishing for normal people.
>>573735881Farm Gambit or lawless frontier
>>573730401>people who wrote D1 and Red War actually knew wtf they were doinLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>573730401They were dogshit but at least they didn't rape me with unskippable cutscenes.
>sub 7 on the weekendwrap it up bungie, its over.
>>573736449I guarantee that has nothing to do with your light level. Host your own fireteam in finder with no restrictions. It'll be the same as matchmaking and YOU won't get kicked.
They/them still haven't fixed the cull's shadow quest for people who didn't get the third mission.
>gotten a helmet with the same undesired roll in a row 4 timesTotal bungie death fuck health
>>573550942>the prophet/last rite for marksman rifle primary(amendment, constitution, deadeye)>uncivil discourse for secondary pistol (p-69 veto)>sleeper simulant for support weapon(quasar cannon)
servers choking cock on changing characters or just me?
I'm doing Encore where I've just cleared the 3 vex crystals, now I gotta get out of the room. Is there a path that I'm missing to bypass the block or is there some other mechanic?
>>573743025use your brain retard
>>573737630That's a nice way of looking at it. >>573737769Well, I do like Gambit. >>573739350What else would it be? It's not like I look like a noob or am using turbo shit gear.
How many times do I have to do Alone in the Dark before they give me one with a Deepsight Harmonizer as a reward?
How is the BDF holding up
>>573744584Laid off.
>>573744584big dick futas?
>>573746470Warlock fingers typed this post.
Vault the scorn
>>573743257The reason I mentioned Gambit is that for some reason the Bonus drops are bugged and you will always have like 3 extra powerful drops each match win or lose
>>573746734Vault the uh...what are they called again?
>>573746661
Post your guardians
>>573747213Pyramoids.
>could have been a somewhat interesting character>suffering from millennial dialogue and an unfitting voiceUnfortunate. >>573746972Well then, guess I'll go farm some gambit. >>573747284On page 10?
>>573747213They can go away too alongside tormentors >>573747284Someone will mald if I do it for the nth time in a row
>>573747284My guardian still looks the same as when you posted it the last 2 times.
>>573747284I haven't changed my titan in forever, he's still John Haloman.
>>573747284
>I really don't think this game needs full lobbies every matchthis is the level of cope blast havers have reached
Speedloader Slacks are fun but they look retarded.
>>573748443Oooh banana...
>>573748652i need to get the new shader and try it out on the bottom pieces
Shard or... I mean, glim or keep?
Is one gold from lead enough for double special or will I need in both?
>>573749232depends on the guns
>>573749067It's fine, mag isn't ideal and you want a charge time MW but it's fine overall, just remember your charge time is too long for no reason vs. Main Ingredient (which is easier to farm and has better rolls available).I'd use Under Pressure/Closing Time thoughClosing Time is powercreep on every aim assist and target acquisition perk, they aren't going to nerf it either, so it's just BIS for PvP specials.
>>573749326>an actual replyt-thank you anon>Main IngredientWhat's the ideal roll for that one? I remember using the old one that Xur sold a while back that was cracked but I just assumed it got either nerfed or powercreeped by better rolls. And thanks for the insightful feedback, anon.
Oh. I guess I'll bake
>>573749796*tugs on your shirt*mistuh anon... can you pwease bake da next general and then, and then put blue fwosting?
>>573749905dont tug on my shirt ever again. Now get in the new bread>>573749930>>573749930>>573749930
>>573749717They reissued it with new perks, and they never really powercrept fusion rifle perks (other than Closing Time). MI's best perks are:Column 3>Under Pressure or Moving TargetColumn 4>Tap the Trigger or High-Impact Reserves or RangefinderRangefinder was only really nerfed in a way that matters on primaries and snipers, fusions still get better target acquisition from it.The reason you want to use MI instead of Exile's Curse though is the frame, high-impacts fire 5 bolts, adaptives and precisions (MI is precision) fire 7, meaning that with the dogshit netcode you're more likely to get a successful kill with a precision frame than a HI frame.The "real" best fusions are rapid-fires though (fire 9 projectiles, lowest charge time, stupid perks on the few good ones). Zealot's Reward from GoS is probably the best fusion in both gamemodes because of its everything.
>>573750118thx unlce anon! *runs off*
>>573750145Good to know! Thank you again, anon!
>>573743257If, as you say, it's consistently happening in non-matchmade activities, you're either screwing up mechanics, taking too long with mechanics or grabbing mechanic related buffs or items and using them improperly or too slowly. Dying too fast or too often. Not stunning champions. Or being a mouthbreather on open mic. Any one of these things, all of these things, or something equally retarded. Light level doesn't matter in 99% of content and the power delta, difference between you and the enemy, is fixed for every activity. You can be 350, and your ally can be 550, and there'll be no difference in damage dealt or received. Queer emblems also result in kicks from most teams.
