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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9471 - The fire rises Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Embed]
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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>>573563136
"Ooc is good when it makes the characters nicer" has been the comic fag mindset since Archie Shadow
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Douge
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Silver is still not a proper Sonic.
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>>573563236
Yes.
And you are mindbroken over it.
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You made me want to watch Generator Rex now
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>>573563236
If you like your character you want the best for them. That's why everyone who likes Shadow should want him to be happy and loved
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>>573563264
He has never been to or even mentioned the Sol Dimension
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>>573563638
indeed
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>>573563663
He loves Blaze for who she is, not because of some random kingdom he can't visit
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Amy loves Sonic
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Why is IDW a gothic manga now? I think Sonic should also wear the proper attire, with a cross and a stake in hand
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>>573564015
I like that IDW is picking a theme and sticking with it
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>>573563431
I wish Sonic was zoomerpilled (based) instead of zoomerpilled (cringe) (steven universe)
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yo, i'm looking for art i saw like five years ago where an on-model amy rose grabs hold of her entire waist because her hand is big enough to do that. i'm pretty sure i saw it in one of these generals, so does anyone know which pic i'm talking about?
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>>573563136
>cool action for boys is bad
>romance slop for girls is good
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>>573564215
Needs to be more specific than that buddy
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>>573564278
It's just a joke anon, because casarse=marry sounds like cazar=hunt in spanish
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Dapple
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>>573564323
>tfw no dumb muscle boyfriend you can molest
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>>573563136
>>573564015
Looks like I was right that the edgy emerald coffin-guy's Starline allusions were a red herring. The new OC's "vampire lord" aesthetic and name (Blackwood the Ermine) explains the coffin, and the brainwashing of Blaze is another point. But I knew, since Starline's death is the only thing giving the clowns at IDW any legitimacy as storytellers at this point.

Though that makes Sonic recognizing him without the starfish-bot "mask" weird.
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>>573564439
i can't believe elias is about to get deleted
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>>573564480
I doubt the person with the coffin and this guy are the same individual. Maybe he is just helping Starline. Some people say this guy is Infinite's benefactor from the Chaotix Casefiles
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>>573564643
you are insane if you're asked this multiple times
knock it off, think about your behavior
and most importantly you're not gonna win her over with this tistic behaviour
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>>573564643
This is one of the main reasons while Silver is seen as a joke nowadays.
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>>573564480
I really don't understand the value of keeping Starline dead.
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Windfags and Auraverfags have the same sort of autism but the key differences
>windnic has been in good games
>there is literally no alternative to windnic in the games except comedy-nic
>auraver is only impressive to shonenfags and most of them don't care about silver
>people actually LIKE uwuver and want him to stay while idwnic is mixed to hated
>spamming people about getting sonic's characterization wrong is already seen as highly autistic and silver is even less important
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>>573564307
hazy on the details, but i think it was a two-panel comic with just amy. in panel 1 she's looking at POV, and in panel 2 she grabs her own waist just to show she can do it, basically. i don't know who drew it, and i didn't find it after a few hours looking in several different boorus.
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>>573564973
It's the thin red line of credibility. Up to this point, the narrative was that OCs have more flexibility than what Sega lets them do with the games cast, and thus freedom to tell stories they couldn't and have consequences they don't. If they go running back to Starline because he's the one good villain they ever had, they tacitly admit that nothing they've done since his death was up to snuff, they de-legitimize those consequences, AND they won't be able to spin it as Sega twisting their arms.
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>>573564973
Its the reverse. I dont see thr merit it bringing him back. Just male a new villain.
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>>573565696
Clutch WAS the "new villain".
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>>573565729
I loved my loser villain Clutch
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FIONA RULEZ!!! FUC DAH SEESTEM!!11!1
IDW GAY
ARCHIE GAY
SEGA GAY

FOXES WONNED
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>>573565696
New villains are fine, but Starline already has established relationships with most of the cast that a new villain wont have. Why throw that away?

>>573565328
The OG Diamond Cutters already legitimize the stakes of IDW. Starline role was already original and killing him off didn't really add much to the comic.
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>>573566414
Clutch also has that.
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>>573564480
He has the same eye-color as Starline and his claw-like gloves kinda resemble how one of Starline's gloves were kinda pointed at the fingertips for flippers. There must be some weird connection between them. Unless he still is Starline and he somehow copied or recreated Mimic's ability through science.
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My bird chud would rape your blue rat.
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>>573566508
Yeah, but Clutch sucks. He also has way less of an interesting dynamic with the rest of the cast and can't act as a credible "3rd faction" against everyone like Starline did.
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>>573566746
>Implying RubyInfinite didn't trap and betray Shadow for 6 months.
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I remember someone saying this might be repurposed story from that cancelled Shadow one-shot. What if this guy is trying to resurrect dead villains and that includes Starline and maybe Black Doom? Hell, maybe Infinite actually died, but this guy brought him back.
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Your ships arent weird enough sthg. You need weirder less canon ships
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I wish i could replace shippers with powerscalefags.
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>>573566790
That's because Evan made him too weak. His time to shine will come
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>>573567023
You'll only get those people if Sonic focused mainly on aura, hype, and powerups.
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Gold likes men that are confident and capable. Silver is... not that...
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>>573567023
Sonic is a girl's franchise, shipping is the girl equivalent of powerscaling.
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>>573567098
Gold only likes women
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>>573566790
Clutch definitely feels like they tried to recreate Fang for the modern universe since Fang is restricted to classic.
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sweet boys saving hard girls from mind control is cute
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>>573567098
Both the SoJ and SoA agree Silver is an insecure sissy. Only fans will tell you otherwise
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>>573567086
yes, and also fixing powerlevels to a more consistent model instead of "now this ultimate lifeform will job because we need to highlight this new threat".
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>>573567112
Gold is supposed to like both boys and girls but Evan conveniently only mentions what girls she would be attracted to (Sally, Blaze, and Rouge).
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>>573567242
proof she likes boys?
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>>573567173
long hair and big wolf boobies are cute
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>>573567080
>Evan made him too weak

No, Clutch is basically Surge-tier in terms of power because Surge is that weak. The problem is Evan made him too stupid and his plans made no sense.
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Starline is the only good original villain this comic has ever made.
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>>573567313
Clutch is a normie. The rest of the cast can mop the floor with him.
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>>573567112
Evan says shes Bi
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>>573567320
And he's a gay cuck for eggman, so imagine what we could do if we actually put effort.
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>>573567320
Mimic used to be decent... until they realized his story needs a conclusion that ends in his death after what he had done and also giving your villain a real life combat knife as his weapon in a kids comic wasn't such a good idea.
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>>573567294
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Xitter just discovered that X Amy is literally a rapist
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>>573567672
What's going on with our Sonics?
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>>573567680
Zoomers are castrated cucks who were never taught to fight for love so they can't relate to Amy's struggle. She is just too annoying and one note in Sonic X
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Every villain shall redeem, every moment of sincerity shall end up in quirky irony subverting the expectations, every woman shall be super smart and ultra-competent while men are insecure fragile retards (also they can't love each others because marriage is slavery, instead they should work 9 to 5 and longer for "carreers" to provide mr. goldberg a new yacht).

Don't like it? You're an incel.
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>>573567802
I think the joke is that classic Sonic, the youngest one, is actually the oldest because he was made first, so he has the right to scold the other Sonics
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>>573567528
>Mimic
>decent
>ever
He might actually be the dumbest motherfucker in the whole book. It’s wrong to even call him a jobber because he’s always been an abject failure. He’s not even a threat and people need to be made stupid for him to work.
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>>573567896
Evan...
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>>573567680
If that is rape, then willie the coyote is a predator.

Amy was just like the average justin bieber fangirl of the 2000s who would go wild over her favorite band and kidnap them all if they could (like Kpop fans nowdays).
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>>573567917
Wasn't his shapeshifting inconsistent? Something about his suction cups being relevant?
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>>573568081
Ian had them there just for the viewer, Evan had them actually exist so Mimic needed gloves as Duo.
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I like when artists draw Sonic with an evil grin
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>>573568047
Ok, perhaps pepe le pew was a better comparison because willie is really a predator, but still there are just funny cartoon gags that people take too seriously only because the characters are flawed like real people.
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>>573568170
Sonic looking a little deranged is probably catnip for wind bros
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>>573568241
The wind is crazy in the head?
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>>573568241
I hate it and I’m a windfag, it’s just edgy bullshit. It’s not even wind related, it’s just taking his reckless attitude and making him into a sociopath.
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>>573568295
He just looks drunk here
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>Freedom Fighters are finally canon
>Sally says picrel
>Lore team: yes they were always canon!
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>>573568447
Archiefags, did Sonic and Sally ever canonically fuck? Did Penders ever go all the way or did they always bitch out
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>>573568447
perhaps a lore team comprised of old westerners who directly contributed to the erasure of satam/archie content but are also obsessed with it in their own right might have some hiccups
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>>573568506
>Sonic and Sally ever canonically fuck
It is implied that Bunnie doesn't think there's anything weird about having sex with Sonic, since she had sex with Scourge as Sonic. You can assume Archienic was having sex with his girlfriends based on that. Bunnie never questioned it or anything. That said, technically no. Preboot is no longer canon to Archie so in an 06 sort of way they never did.
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>/sthg/ discussion is solely about three of the franchises worst character for 24 hours a day
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>>573567840
Zoomers were taught to fight for hatred and call it love.
and fight for rape too but they’ll never admit that, not even to themselves
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>>573568621
>you don't like tanabata?
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House of Cards is a good arc. People hate it because of Sonic saying horribly OOC things but that was Ian trying to stay consistent with how Archie Sonic was written and forcing him into a situation where he is punished for acting like this.

I'm being serious. Every time I see criticism of this arc it's about how it mischaracterizes Sonic. Archie Sonic is already mischaracterized, so the correct thing to do is write within that framework. That arc is important to how Archie Sonic moved on.
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>>573568391
You are hard to please
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>>573568621
Would you prefer discussion be about three of the franchises worst games?
Because I'm not sure how much more I can talk about 06, Boom and Heroes.
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>>573568447
Only Ian likes this pairing.
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>>573568506
>Did Penders ever go all the way or did they always bitch out
Assuming you don't already know the answer, Penders was literally trying to retcon the only universe where Sonic got laid out of existence
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Blackwood is cool
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>>573568678
>sonic is not OOC because Ian was purposefully trying to write him OOC
are you actually retarded mate?
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>>573568813
No I'm genuinely curious. I know Penders has done tweets about some dude called Geoffrey taking Sally's virginity before Sonic could so I know he's insane, I just wondered how invested he, or I guess Ian after him, were in committing to these relationship stories.
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>>573568858
this dude is literally sephiroth
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>>573568757
I like it too. I noticed it's still somewhat popular on deviantart
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>>573568885
Penders is more anti-Sonally than the average JP purist at this point so if you ask him he will probably say fuck no
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>>573568890
Most Shadally fanart is now more in-character than what would have actually happened if Penders got his way with Shadally. Shadally fans tend to show Shadow looking annoyed or surprised by her but according to KenPen he would be the most loving and overbearing husband.
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>>573568380
It makes him look like he just wants to have fun at the same time as being exposed to danger
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Can i understand what's the deal with this shitty OC?? >>573563136
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>>573569143
Coldsteel the donotsteal who wants to be silver's sidekick or something
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>>573569095
Wrong, it is completely in character for Shadow to fall deeply in love with Sally Acorn!
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>>573569143
We don't know yet. He has a full town under his control and apparently he will control Blaze so people assume he is a vampire
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>>573567672
classickino SCOLDING modernshit
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the good future
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The GOOD future but for real
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>their shadows create black wings for the new original character
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>>573569416
>nuked timeline
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>>573569416
Wild genetics
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>>573569442
Cool. Nice catch
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the penders situation is the reason i'm laying off of sonallyfags at this point. i always saw archie as disgustingly ooc but he's taking it a bit too far.
it's like if yuji naka came out of the woodwork to write a book about how Sonamy was NEVER EVER EVER part of his plans and he HATES SONAMY
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>>573564951
> How Sonic was vibing in crossworlds
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>Shadow is a better Knuckles and is superior and more masculine than Sonic
Penders and Fowler and Iizuka meeting to talk about Shadow.
Penders and Fowler and Iizuka making a new game starring Shadow
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>>573569442
DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN
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Why is his body so long
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>>573569442
once again...its just anthro sephiroth
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>>573568936
*Alucard
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>>573569372
The weird thing is that if this happened there would be no super genesis wave because Penders would have never left Archie. Never copyrighted his characters. Never gotten in a legal battle with Sega. We would be living in a different world.
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Good morning to gamebros, IDWbros, Xbros, JPpuristbros, and USpuristbros
Bad morning to all Pendersfaggots and character autists who pretend to know who and what they are talking about
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>>573569584
He only looks slightly taller than them
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>>573569607
Alucard was also just Sephirith but not evil
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>>573569584
lanky blackwood
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>>573569637
what about everythingbros?
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>>573569584
Ermines are long
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>>573569584
Thrresomes between Alucard, Raiden and Serana.
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>>573569709
Everythingbros are cool
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>>573569670
Yeah, but Alucard was created before Sephiroth by about 8 years

Also:
> Has a mansion
> Mind-controls others like vampires

Blackwood is more like Alucard than Sephiroth even if Alucard isn't evil. And who knows? Blackwood could very much end up as an anti-hero for better or for worse
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i have cum 4 times today and really i would like to cum again but im already in bed
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>>573569637
>>573569819
Good morning to you too bro
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>>573569670
>t. guy who only played 1 game in his life
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>>573569895
>Enslaves an entire town
>Anti hero
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>>573569709
Everythingpsychos are a different breed
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>>573570038
> Shadow nearly blew up the whole planet
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>>573570167
he has the soul of maria, that was just a woman moment
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>>573570167
He didn't know what he was doing. Blackwood has been willingly controlling slaves for what could have been centuries if he really is a vampire
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Why didn't Ian's version of Light Mobius... explain why Shadow is evil? He's just evil just because? Penders had the explanation that Elias was killed and Shadow wasn't evil, just doing what he thought was right.
I don't want to say Penders "understands" Shadow but that sounds more like him than turning evil and taking over the planet.
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>>573570369
From what I got he is supposed to be pre redemption SA2 Shadow. but instead of killing everyone he becomes a dictator
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Sally pussy healed Shadow.
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>>573570515
>healed
in penders timeline she was evil and shadow was just following along to get to eggman and protect her
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>>573569929
you better be a woman
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>>573570631
no u
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>No Amy
>No Eclipse cannon for some reason
>Takes over the planet and becomes evil dictator and either kills or imprisons his nemesis'
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>>573570895
I like the idea that Amy is just better at redeemshit. Sally just ends up corrupted herself in the process.
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>>573570895
>halflidshit
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>>573570991
go fuck your boyfriend, krack
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>>573569637
Penders makes you seethe cuz he never stopped being the GOAT.
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Manspreading
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>>573571083
i like that there's a significant chance that penders made this post
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>>573570991
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>>573571259
I am going to suck his featureless crotch.
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>>573567432
this new character is literally just sephiroth, are there any full body refs of him yet?
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>ken penders coming to sthg and deciding he needs to set the record straight on sally acorn and hope kintobor
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>>573571280
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ken penders being a shaowfag is surreal
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>>573571461
Am I stupid if I think that he might have actually seen this place once or twice?
He openly admitted to watching JP purists youtube videos criticizing Archie
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>>573571272
I wish I was Penders. Better than the life I got now. If only I was born 30 years earlier.
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>>573571435
Only his statue in the cover
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>>573571461
>hope kintobor
There is news on Hope?
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>>573571679
Yes, she's pregnant with my child.
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>>573570515
>pussy healed
what does this mean
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>>573571632
damn, I guess we'll have to wait a little longer for one than
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>>573571739
It's porn
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>>573571716
congratulations!
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>>573571493
cope faget
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>>573570895
cnc
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>>573571739
It's means the slit finally closed.
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They're gonna do it...
The dogs are going to bone tonight...
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>100$ for a videogame
>100$ for a videogame license
>100$ for a videogame license without gameplay
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>>573571846
Thank you, Anon, it means a lot.
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>>573572331
And what game are you talking about?
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>>573571679
Penders retconned Hope into being a clone of Maria in his Shadow Files book.
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>>573572331
>GTA 6 and the new football game and call of duty
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massaging a blobian's soft plush sheath until the tip of his peepee pokes out
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This is how the line-up should have always been. FUCK LANOLIN!
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>>573572534
>FUCK LANOLIN!
*fuck lanolin's tits
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>>573572534
No Jewel is lame
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>>573572534
Fixed.
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>>573572534
jewel finally gets to be a part of her own team?
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>>573572394
sonic the hedgehog.
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>>573572534
Lanolin was fired after she interrupted Jewel's playtime one too many times.
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>>573563264
Blaze is a fake Sonic
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>>573572331
And I'm still playing a game I bought for $40 ten years ago.
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>100 comic book issues
>in the span of 10 years
>Nothing meaningful and consequential happens in the story
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>>573572640
Lanolin is lame.
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>600 likes
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>>573571679
How do you make a generic clone that is shorter than the original
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>>573572905
You forgot to move Blaze into Silver's Amy slot.
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>>573573028
same could be said of sonic and its 35 years worth of games buddy
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It was all a dream
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>35 years of games
>All major plot development comes to a screeching halt after Heroes (06 doesn't count)
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>>573573028
>3 seasons
>1 is the most boring dull dragged out fight ever
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>>573572686
This guy gets it
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Today i want to ironynineposting all day
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I'm in love with you, Cybershell.
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>25 years
>All sorts of happenings from cool to weird in every other issue
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>>573573487
Cybershell doesn't come here anymore, I don't think he even cares about Sonic anymore.
It's clearly he mainly just cared about Classic.
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I'm in love with you, Tails
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It's funny how the movies are aggressively pandering to 2000s fags but they seem to be the least interested due to zoomernic
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Did that guy ever notice and say anything about his requested blue bat and velociraptor idea?
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>franchise about a speedster
>"gotta go fast"
>release dates are slow as fuck
>multiple delays too
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>>573573169
>SEGA LEAK
>It's a random 4chan post
Devious
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>>573573487
he's a faggot extremist
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>>573573770
>honey_punching_nine.mp4
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>>573573770
back in my day we had a game every year. sometimes 2. and 2 comic issues each month
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>>573573928
We used to have handheld games.
We used to have spin offs.
We used to have comics and cartoons.
We had it all.
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Archie being an unmandated mess would have been applauded in current year if Penders actually got those Sega of Japan details when he fucking asked. It's literally Sega's fault that Archie is ooc.
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>>573573657
Zooey...
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>>573573819
Its this.
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>>573573725
You mean the genner? I think he did something
>>573362728
>>573362837
>573363028
>573363243
>573364459
>>573364584
>"Our system thinks your post is spam."
Well screw you, site.
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>>573573605
He's in his "smoke weed every day" arc.
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I've been spending less and less time on /STHG/.
It's all thanks to (You).
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>>573574612
Hey, get back here
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>>573573169
Total SoA death.
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/z8NuttmvLYo
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>>573573169
I don't understand how anyone can be against JP Sonic when thats literally Adventure Sonic
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>>573574842
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What the fuck is wrong with you
You have been arguing about the same shit for three years
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>>573575880
I.
I've only been here one.
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>franchise about running fast
>fanbase is made of fatties
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Dow
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>>573576013
HOW DARE YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON ME!?!
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>>573576013
>Shadow giving you the eye and calling you weak and pathetic
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>>573576192
And that was the last thing she ever saw.
In Memory of Fioner
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>>573576338
kekiona
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>>573576013
Cacadow.
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>>573576912
What did Mr Tinker mean by this
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Fiona is Aryan.
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>>573576959
Shadow is so edgy he won't do a gentle smile even towards Maria
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>>573577151
he did twice nigger.
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>>573577192
It says right there that Shadow doesn't do normal smiles bitch
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>>573577023
This is post-gens why do shipniggers keep saying maria doesn't matter to him?
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Um, where the fuck are Scrapnik Island and Chaotix special?
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>>573568004
Enemies to lovers is overrated but extremely cute
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>>573577676
Nobody gives a fuck stop discussing this shit comic
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>>573577676
IDW are ratcist
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>>573577735
IDW hate is lame
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>>573577969
IDW is specifically marketed to and written by lame faggots who got shoved into lockers
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>>573577676
>listing all the bad stories
Are they TRYING to bankrupt themselves?
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>Palworld was actually forced to redesign their monsters in the end
Holy shit
Nintendo is crazy
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>>573579801
>New design is 100% better
I don't understand why they copied pokemon in the first place. Many designs are straight up garbage. All their novelty is in the inspirations, which are really original, but the executions are mostly horrible. All furries redesign Cinderace in a different art style because he is just ugly
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>>573569584
I guess he’s supposed to be an older character?
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>>573577685
it's eye-rolling when done poorly but kino when done right
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>>573579801
Top shit is literally just grass type Cinderace.
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>>573578094
>All the bad stories
So the whole comic?
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I don’t get why people are using that Toyotaro story as a good example for a Blaze story, Blaze needed to be saved by Sonic after getting pissy over getting help from him lol. Blaze has been in her own stories but they’re not memorable because they keep retreading the same shit and are boring.
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>>573579801
> forced
The lawsuit that actually stuck had nothing to do with the monster designs, it was the capture, riding, and gliding mechanics that Nintendo tried to patent after the fact

Also, Sonic the Hedgehog?
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>>573558467
>While amy from adventure to black knight used to have an actual obsession with sonic, having crazy and even violent tantrums if she didn't had sonic attention,
List em
Hardmode: Use games people actually played.
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>>573567680
Not what happened.

>>573568047
Not what happened either.
The "trap" was legit just a moonlit lake scenario. That was it.
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>>573582778
Amy's intention was to steal Sonic's free will
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Never saw anyone ask for a Rouge solo game, what would the plot be?
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>>573582982
No, Random. It was a silly fortune thing. There was no real magic or spell. It was the equivalent of a palm reading or sutra

Unless you believe Amy magically make Cosmo and Tails fall in love with eachother.
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This was EASILY IDW's best comic ever. At this point there is no point in continuing with Flynn's garbage.
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>>573583093
Sly Cooper but with a girl instead
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>>573583215
but idw so far has been stanley's garbage
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>>573583093
World famous treature hunter Rouge heist game where she infiltrates places to steal treasure. Stealth elements and uses of sound physics and detection as well as spy/gadgetry.

Rouge is a Phantom Thief so making it as stylish as possible for ranks is a part of thr gameplay as well.

Go nuts.
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>>573583215
The Classic comics are always better than mainline IDW. They were better than mainline Archie too.
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>>573583398
Archie classic Sonic isn't even Sonic
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>>573583545
and that's why it was so good
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>>573583215
>This was EASILY IDW's best comic ever
There have been other Classic IDW comics more entertaining than this one
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Would (You)?
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>>573583862
Oui, oui, oui!
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>>573583862
No
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>>573583862
Yeah
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>>573583280
>>573583337
You anons delivered, thank you, now i'll go lay down and dream
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D-D-DA ChAOsEmeRaLdS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>573583215
It was sub-mid, even for Classic IDW standards.
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>>573577676
we're not there yet nigger
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>>573584535
It's the youtuber who leaks the issues a day or so early but always disclaims it with a "holy peak, go buy this now" to cover his ass.
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Fans that think being “relatable” is deep ar confusing emotional manipulation for depth. They only think it’s deep because it makes them feel deep but isn’t actually deep if you think about it. Remember that whenever people tell you characters should be relatable.
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>>573584202
No! I like Rouge! Her stages in SA2 acrually did have stealth elements so that's where i got the idea!
Also you coulf have side missions from the President of GUN!
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I geuinely don't understand why some of you still care about this series
>inb4 i liek sonic
no bitch, you LIKED Sonic. Past tense. Everything you like about it is in the past.
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>>573585515
>Fans that think being “relatable” is deep ar confusing emotional manipulation for depth.
Correct
Same with people who overprioritize "things happening" and "conflict". Its basically algorithym
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>>573585652
>past
You can't kill an idea. Real art and ideas, not disposable entertainment, don't have shelf life.
If there was nothing to the series that was actually timeless, I would have left already. I dont have a problem leaving series or media. I just have a thing for Sonic because of Sonic.
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>>573585838
Sonic isn't "art". It's a product.
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>>573585957
Sonic is art, contoeted into a product.
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>>573583215
This is genuinely the weakest of the classic books and they need to stop bringing on the guy who wrote it.
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I'm tired of Classic Sonic.
The games were great but the "character" is garbage.
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>>573586608
Fuck you, he is cute
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>>573568447
Man, what they did to this pairing in the end was fucked up. It's never really been one I favored when I was a kid getting into Sonic media, but I was there 20 years ago when it was big within early fandom subculture, and it had so much art and passion dedicated to it. I wonder what those artists, writers and fans today must feel. Sega killed it for good and Ian just kinda gave it its last coup de grâce later on. I wasn't big on SatAM, but it really didn't deserve to go out like that, for a relationship which was the focus of a setting for, what, 20+ years or so? Feels bad.
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>>573586736
>cute
But he's not supposed to be
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>>573586268
The funny thing is that this Grant person did nothing wrong. He's yet another translator doing his job that Ian Flynn and his cohorts fucked over
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>>573583862
>Still french
no
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>>573586608
Classic Sonic is the best characterization for Sonic
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>>573583862
I'd rather male Bunnie (Bonny?)
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Classickino stays.
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>>573587834
Who are these shitty friends?
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>>573587834
based
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>>573587834
lack of actual character interaction really hindered this special, I know it wasn't the main point of the story but it really feels like their were a few missing story beats between characters.
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Sonic would be a deadbeat dad
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>>573588679
Can't outrun alimony
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>>573586608
NuClassic Sonic is Hello Kitty slop feeling.
OG Classic Sonic had sauce and aura.
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>>573588908
Very accurate and also a shame
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>>573588908
>>573588970
There is no difference
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>>573588908
OG Modern sonic had likeable edge
NuModern is liquid sewage
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>>573568608
I dunno if I agree with this read. Him doing that always read to me as a point of contrast (Scourge would do this but Sonic wouldn't)
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>>573587834
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>>573589260
CLASSICKINO
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>>573589131
Classic Sonic shouldn't be talking.
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>>573589260
Iasmin knows when to keep the characters silent
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>>573586904
But he always was
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>>573587170
Romance-language speakers are the best fuckers on the planet (who have not read the Kama Sutra). Yes, even a Frenchie is miles ahead of (You)
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>>573589345
Larper
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>>573589365
>>573589650
Can't hide your shame nerd
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Classic Sonic ate my island
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>>573589698
Sacrebleu!
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>>573581228
Blaze getting pissed over not wanting help is pretty in-character.

She literally believes she needs to do her stuff alone, so it's pretty jarring when that doesn't comes up
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>>573573831
what? did he become some gigantic leftist-kike cuckold?
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Have a lovely weekend.
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Blaze is pretty worthless without her own enemy.
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>>573590201
IT'S TOO FUCKING HOT AMY
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>>573590201
Fuck You,Amy! Ore wa Tired of (You)r SHIT
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>>573590201
you too amybro!
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>>573590340
Take a chill pill, Sally-Girl.
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Sonurge
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Trip was such a disappointing lizard mobian
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>>573590268
Not where I am but I understand the pain. Stay strong, anon.
>>573590340
I just got here...
>>573590394
I only see you pop up in these replies, I wish I could see more cool Jet art.
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>>573581228
>Blaze needed to be saved by Sonic after getting pissy over getting help from him
Which is then followed by Blaze being the one encouraging Sonic by taking on the enemy solo, and Sonic accepting that there's merit to the kind of strength she champions just as much as there is to his. This short story is just written by someone who understands the character and her dynamic with Sonic very well. He clearly studied up on the Rush games. The central theme of "Blaze can never easily let someone into her heart", even after all she went through with Sonic and Cream, is the one unchanging nature of her character which should be preserved -- and it's the source of all the push and pull tension she has with Sonic, similar to the effect the Chaos and Sol Emeralds have on each other, of both pulling and repelling. She's at her best when the story acknowledges this tension, the source of it, and how she can stand as an equal to Sonic. Reading up on the character digest after this story, it's clear that this is very well understood, at least by some JP writers.
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>>573590213
I think she was supposed to be Sonic's rival and be more at odds with him, sorta like Surge.
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>>573590654
Thanks the Doc
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so what sonic news did i miss the last 2-3 days?
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>>573590268
Same, i bet summer is more fun in amy’s world
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>>573591054
Sonic is dead.
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>>573591054
The lore team is sabotaging good translators by pretending to be prentend-teacher and going "give us a 32-page essay why you should translate it good and we'll think about it."
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>>573577676
That’s missing the new one, im thinking about getting these since they don’t publish IDW sonic in my country but i can get them on amazon
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>>573590635
I like Surge as a character and all, but my God she is such an ineffective rival character. Like seriously, I don't know how Ian managed to fuck it up. He basically had a straight, even more aggressive Sonic x Shadow in his hands and somehow managed to completely botch it. Surge leaves so little an impression on Sonic that it's unbelievable, this rivalry is more one-sided than Sonic v. Jet. And while Sonic has an effect on Surge it's been basically nothing as well. I don't know if this is because IDW Sonic is just so charmless that the writers don't understand that his actions drive everyone around him to be better, or if it's just Ian playing it unbelievably slow with this story, or if they don't want Sonic to better Surge at all (which would break with the fundamental storytelling of Sonic itself).

I just don't know. She was never going to be bigger than Shadow, but she could've had much more impact as a rival which just didn't happen.
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Any updates on the Grant + lore team situation?
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>>573581228
Because Blaze as a character is just that. She was a grump people lovebombed and that's kind of it.
People shill her for being being a girl "rival " character. That's it.
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>>573591054
Jakks pacific finished the babylon Rogues now all of them have figures, im hoping the winter wave has Sage or anyone new but i have a feeling it could be a 2.5 in classic mecha knuckles since they shadow dropped a giant one
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>>573590753
>I only see you pop up in these replies
I'm here quite a bit actually, I just don't Jet that much
>I wish I could see more cool Jet art.
here ya go!
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>>573591363
Given that Sonic isn't allowed to lose, be made fun of, etc. A rivalry between him and another character will never work.
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>>573591241
can you elaborate more on this? of course i saw the previous threads with random staff members posts getting a bunch of replies but I am still kinda confused in the whole thing
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>>573591363
>but my God she is such an ineffective rival character.
The whole problem is that Surge isn't meant to be a "rival". She's a villain.
Her whole thing was taking down Sonic, Eggman, Starline, anyone involved in effectively ruining her life whether actively or passively.

Shadow is a "rival" because his main antagonism towards Sonic is just that he was in the way. Over time this opens up to be more reciprocative, if not friendly.
Surge wanted to kill Sonic. Then they watered this all the way down to try and make her a "rival" similar to Shadow's status but it only exceeded in completely neutering her character.
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>>573591784
Thank you!!
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>>573591363
I dont know ehy you wanted Surge to just be Shadow or Knuckles but a girl.
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>>573591835
>Given that Sonic isn't allowed to lose,
Why do Archiefags still perpetuate this myth?

What >>573591878 said.
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Dance with me.
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>>573590137
yeah
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>>573590201
Thanks, you too.
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>>573593307
Sonic's wife.
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I'm tired of 00s Sonic.
The games weren't great and the character is garbage.
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>>573592868
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>>573593307
Sonic is so lucky
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>>573593673
Source? I love anyone that draws her sideboob or her having cute legs.
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At least Xbox doesn’t own Sonic am i rite
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>>573592868
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>>573593941
https://x.com/SA_ssSsa/status/2075282918294130922
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>>573594234
Thank you, amybro.
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>>573573374
06 does count.
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Sonic and tails
Blaze and marine
Tangle and Jewel
Surge and kit
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Sonurj
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>>573573374
Silver is the cutest so 06 is the most relevant
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Who wants to play the Sonic the Hedgehog official canon ships board game?
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>>573595693
Me
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Dead general
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>>573595693
Then we can video games on our official canon ships controllers.
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>>573595693
>>573595889
Actually I'm busy today. But I'll schedule it on my official canon ships calendar. How does February work for you?
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I miss our SRB2 sessions bros
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>>573591849
nta, see >>573509989 - >>573512109
A naive translator blabbed too much about the inner practices of the lore team (more like the curator/dei team) and he's probably the one who's going to get in trouble for it. Also some back-and-forth proxy-damagecontrol.
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>>573596409
oh yeah, i forgot some honeyanon hosted those for like, only 3 weeks. never participated on them but it was cute seeing anons have fun through screenshots
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>>573595472
IC
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>>573596409
>I miss [garbage game]
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>>573595693
>shadouge
>canon
lmfao
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>>573597328
Brother we're in a Sonic general
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>>573587834
I hated how this special brought almost every single classic character, but Wendy and the witchcarters still got forgotten.
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>Sonic is not Spiderma or Peter Parker. He's the spider that bit him.
Shit goes hard.
WindCHADs get another win.
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>>573595803
Based
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>>573597393
Most of Silver's listed traits are just Sonic's here. The chao at the end is the only diff.
>>
silver with negative emotions is shadow but more of a spaz
silver with positive emotions is sonic but more of a spaz
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>>573597884
He grew up in a ruined future, he's got to have some of the tism
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What did Gerald mean by this?
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>>573598118
Bro was a genius but still didn't know how to use protection baka
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>>573598136
>halflidshit
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>>573598118
that they're couSins.
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>>573596427
I feel bad for Grant. He’s not guilty. He was forced to write the bios the way the lore team told him to. It’s the lore team that needs to get in trouble. Chris Hernandez is doing damage control and claimed that he wasn’t able to write Amy’s love for Sonic into her bio in time and said to stick around for updates to the bios. He’s lying. He just wants the fans to stop talking about it. Don’t stop calling him out
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>>573598326
He became guilty once he started lying about posting them
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sometimes i wonder how big is the eggman family tree, like he probably has distant family that is just.. normal and they are just watching the world getting fucked by him every now and then
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>>573598136
>their other kid is literally just girl Shadow but pink instead of black
such a lazy fankid, although wearing lederhosen is funny
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>>573597420
I love Witchcart and crew, but I'm still mad we've yet to see Classic Espio, Classic Vector, Heavy, Bomb, or Honey in any meaningful context
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>>573595693
>official canon ships board game
>no vector x blaze
fake and gay
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Maria is pregnant
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>>573598136
Shadow is not that tall.
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Silver is not Shadow’s kid!! reeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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>>573598892
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>>573598442
Most of the fandom’s anger deserves to be directed towards the lore team because they’re ultimately behind this. The lore team’s cover has been blown and they’ll never get it back. Everyone now knows they’re responsible for changing Amy and Shadow and if they try it in the future, the fandom will know exactly who to blame
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>>573598876
cute
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>>573599123
>The lore team’s cover has been blown and they’ll never get it back
Ultimately, this means nothing. Who outside of a few niche communities even knows that there IS a lore team?
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When people make Sonic ship fanchildren, what's your biggest pet peeves?
Personally I hate species combos. Make them one or the other.
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>>573599410
The lore team is mentioned in the credits of the games. Plus, this bombshell that has revealed how they’ve been messing with Amy snd Shadow’s characters behind the scenes will bring more attention to the lore team. People who previously didn’t know a lore team existed will now know it does
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>>573599123
Can we stop calling them a "lore team" and call them what they really are: The Censorship Committee.
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>>573599473
cute children
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>>573599473
>Personally I hate species combos. Make them one or the other.
for me I'm kinda the opposite, it's fun seeing fans mix and match aspects of both the parent characters, especially when they are different species.
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>>573599968
Nigga wants scaly rabbits and furry crocodiles
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>>573599473
Isn't that the main reason why people like fanchildren though?
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>>573600143
No?
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>>573600114
that is a nice vectilla fankid though
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>>573595693
>>573595889
>>573596090
No one wants to play huh? Alright, I'll pack everything up in my official canon ship backpack and be on my way.
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>>573598563
We know honey is there thanks to some cameos, it could be cool seeing heavy and bomb again, but the chaotix are a special kind of case, because if I remember right, they got kinda reconnected being full modern characters, but still the tailstube videos, have made a lot of knuckles chaotix references, so i'm not sure anymore.
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>>573600273
Your ship was officially deconfirmed by Sega.
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>>573599473
Speaking of fankids, I wonder how the three Shadally daughters would've looked like?
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>>573600114
That is the most breathtaking creature I've ever seen.
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>>573600357
>not friends
Lovers
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>>573599927
Yeah, it's double-speak. These are the most unqualified people in existence. Tell me again why EvanStanley is there? Tell me again who the hell Chris Hernandez is? Tellme again why the fuck Ian Flynn, someone who ruined the scripts of Frontiers and Generations remaster to the point more work was diverted from the Japanese director of the former to fix his bullshit, is fucking there? This is a farce. Hey, corporations! Hiring "fans" to be in charge of translators is explicitly WHAT NOT TO DO AND WILL SEND US ALL BACK TO THE DARK AGES
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>>573600602
shartouge will never be canon samefagging spammer.
>"Ian, do Shadow and Rouge have any romantic feelings for one another or are they just friends"
>"According to Sega, neither"
https://youtu.be/CyPZVb8yftQ?si=v0V2nWRPnOXCMKV0&t=1606
your ship is dead forever, you need to move on.
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Fuck this game forever.
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>>573600114
sex with this thing
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>>573600654
Can we start calling the "lore team" something else? All they do is destroy the lore. I can't think of a single thing they fixed.

How about the bore team?
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>unironically taking second hand Information on what Ian says as fact
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>>573597551
That makes no sense, the spider is a plot device. He essentially just said that Sonic is not a character.

I agree.
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>>573600983
ironic since ian slop is the only thing shatougefags have lmao
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>>573599473
cnc
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uh oh melty
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>>573599927
Very well, then
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>>573598876
I know this place hates shadria art, but that artist makes top notch pics of the ship, really cute vanilla stuff.
>>573599473
Yeah I hate how artist always try to make hybrids/quimeras. They always look horrid, im with you on making them one species or the other.
I don't like either when artist make them literally a copy on the interest of the parents, as if tails had children, one is gonna be a mechanic/boy genius by default. The only one who could make sense is knuckles because protecting the master emerald is an actual duty, that needs to be constant. Fanchildren being an almost carbon copy of the parents always suck too. All male hedgehogs always look like sonic.
Pic related is an example of a good fanchild to me, maybe is not perfect, but it works.
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>>573600801
>spam
4 pictures
>samefagging
That was the joke. I wasn't pretending to be someone else

You sound on edge. I'd ask if your mother is okay but you're falseflagging anyway.
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>>573601259
Two spammers who are mad about it aren't "this place" tho
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>>573601162
>all-lid shit
>>573601259
Lusty Blobian Maid
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what is it about Shadow the unironically causes such shipping autism? It feels like 90% of the posts in this general these days is shipping discourse/arguments and 90% of that includes Shadow in some way
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>>573591878
>The whole problem is that Surge isn't meant to be a "rival". She's a villain.
You sure about this? Surge has all the telltale signs of a Sonic "rival" character, even more so than Knuckles, Blaze or Silver. I find it hard to believe that the writers didn't envision her mellowing out to Sonic at some point after her character arc, like every character Sonic influences must eventually do because Sonic is Sonic. My real problem with the concept of Surge as a rival (or villain) is that it has not paid off in-story at all.
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>>573601474
there. no more lids
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>>573600654
>EvanStanley
Is a competent artist and somebody's gotta draw the stuff they put out.
>Chris Hernandez and whatever the other chick's name is
Project management aka dude who thinks of lies to calm social media fires
>Ian Flynn
Because Archiefags bitched and moaned about Pontaff and Graff not knowing Sonic lore. The irony being Flynn only knew the Archie versions of these characters and not their game counterparts.

It is a legitimate question now: What has the "Lore Team" actually done? Cause nothing good comes to mind.
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>>573600801
>ian
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>>573600871
Bore team is a good name too. It works as a double entendre. They bore us but they also dent a hole into the lore like a boring machine
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tsk. what a ripoff
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>>573601259
>Pic related is an example of a good fanchild to me, maybe is not perfect, but it works.
Ironic because this OC doesn't even look like a vectilla fankid while this one >>573600114 that's a hybrid does. This one objectively looks better to
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>>573601570
>You sure about this?
Yes.
It's quite clear that they decided to backpedal on the whole "kidnapped and experimented on" backstory so they could make Surge friendlier despite her clearly not accepting any of Sonic's monologue bullshit.

This is then further compounded with the issue of IDW, and I suppose the series in general, refusing to have a female villain, resulting in her status change. Which is why you will never get a pay off.
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>>573601784
Penders always draws sonic character so ugly
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>>573601681
I agree with you on Evan Stanley. Unironically, she is actually the most talented person there. She is just a TERRIBLE writer and a tumblerite, not suited for her position. I don't want her fired, just relocated. The other two are fat weight.
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What annoys me is nobody ever does anything good-looking with the fur/skin/eyes of fankids. They don't usually combine the colors or the hairstyles in a satisfying way.
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>>573602224
Sorry bro, best I can do is heterochromia
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What if Archie never used Lara-su after Penders' left? and only Lara-su since he seemed the most obsessed with? Julie-su as well but maybe not as much.
>https://kenpenders.com/and-now-for-setting-the-record-straight/
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>>573600820
My screenshot didn't attach for some reason and I went off to do something else. This game. Fuck THIS game forever.
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>>573601941
>refusing to have a female villain

Yeah, after over one-hundred issues, still no female villains.


List of IDW recurring characters by alignment

>Good
Tangle (female)
Whisper (female)
Jewel (female)
Lanolin (female) (ABT wishes she was a schizo)
Belle (female)
Nite (Allegedly Gay male)
Don (Allegedly Gay male)
Surge (Female) (Wants to kill Sonic but doesn't want to kill innocents or Eggman, see 2024 annual)

>Evil
Rough (Male) (Allegedly redeemed, still fighting Sonic and co)
Tumble (Male) (Allegedly redeemed, still fighting Sonic and co)
Dr. Starline (Male)
Mimic (Male) (Possibly dead)
Clutch (Male) (Eggman's mind controlled ass slave)
Kitsunami (Male) (Will cause harm to innocents in order to make Surge look good, see 2024 annual)

>One off characters
Elder Scruffy (male) Generic background character. Got beaten by Rough and Tumble.
Ashe (male) Generic background character
Diamond Cutters (mixed bag) Characters who exist to be FRIDGED cause its okay when females do it
Valdus (male) Ran a museum full of stolen stuff cause political talking point
Megani (female) "Thief" who was stealing from a museum of stolen stuff cause not really evil
Soleil (non binary aka femboy) Actual schizophrenic who isn't evil.
Soleil's trope (mixed bag) Generic background characters
Halloween special kids (mixed bag) Generic background characters

Note: Only actual Sega approved named characters are counted. No "Ashe's father" or "Steven Universe kid". Not that any of them did anything substantive anyway.

This is how intersectional feminists are. All men are evil unless they are gay and/or trans. I'd add non-white but they'll throw black men under the bus just as quick as they do whites (See Shadow's treatment). I thought updating this list would mean that maybe, just maybe they'd tone down their religious bullshit but I was wrong.
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>>573602341
what did your avatar look like anon?
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sonic needs another dragon character....
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>>573602430
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>>573602502
so they can vault them shortly after?
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>>573602359
I assume you had this ready to go, but I'm glad of it. It's actually frustrating to me that we can't seem to get a single female villain in this series.
Anything close is either a package deal (can't have Zeena without the rest of the deadly six) or a misunderstood/anti-hero character (Megani).

Surge was actually refreshing and they threw it away.
God forbid we try any kind of variety.
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>>573601019
You're being too literal. Sonic IS a character. Being a character doesn't mean being Ben 10 or Spiderman
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Dude is scanning a setup from 33 years ago using random images, VHS tape records and talking to randos
>why
to uncover media lost to time. that is AoSTH pilot. the one that aligns with early Archie in setting and tone and has the freedom fighters
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>>573602576
I noticed a lot of people gravitate to the wolf avatar by default. Sorry you didn't have fun with the game anon
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>>573602730
"The List" has been around for years. It's nothing new.

Just a reminder that the woke religion continues to ruin fiction.
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So did you like Bebop and Rocksteady?
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>>573603184
It's the second time I played it, but this time I actually finished the achievements and Episode Shadow. I was wondering if I'd like it any better with time passed, but no. I still don't like it. I think I did a bird the first time but I can't remember after 9 years.
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>>573603175
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>>573601850
Nta, but your example is just green cream, at least use the aresworld example of you're gonna use it.
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>>573600114
The fuck is even happening behind her ears?
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/DW96-_P2e4Q
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Since the lore team is responsible for the SOA bios, then we can also confidently say the lore team was also responsible for calling Amy “Sonic’s trusted friend” in the 35th anniversary book and removing her love for Sonic from the original 2021 version. What a discovery. It cannot be underestimated how big this is
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>>573603770
Fowler has the chance to do the funniest thing possible and make Sonic and Amy kiss.
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>>573602943
Sonic is a mascot, not a character.
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>>573601941
But it's always been obvious that the eventual character arc of Surge was going to be to shed that hate and become friendlier, whether she was meant as rival or villain or both, right? It's just that she has had no climax yet, her relationship to Sonic remains unresolved whether she's rival or villain.
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>>573603858
after the recent string of misandry movies failing anything short of a perfect adaptation of adventure amy is going to flop hard

even women are tired of seeing it now
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>>573603858
the funniest thing he can do is make them biologically related
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amy's not that important. stop astroturfing
>so you support the
i don't care nigga. talk about something else
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>>573598326
>Chris Hernandez is doing damage control and claimed that he wasn’t able to write Amy’s love for Sonic into her bio in time and said to stick around for updates to the bios.
Link? All I see is him claiming that the differences are because of machine translations, which is already retarded, but even more so when there are OMISSIONS.
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>>573603214
Oh sure is the woke’s fault and not just the right being lazy and rarely ever creating shit because it’s full of faggots love to complain about every miniscule shit for youtube views
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>>573603858
He does. The movies actually care about Amy’s character, unlike Sonic Team. Sonic Team does almost nothing to reign in the lore team (the censorship committee, the bore team)
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>>573603770
>we can also confidently say the lore team was also responsible for calling Amy “Sonic’s trusted friend” in the 35th anniversary book and removing her love for Sonic from the original 2021 version.
I thought that was a given.
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>>573604090
I just can't agree with it.
I'm fully aware that IDW is fucking terrible and written by frauds, but going from "you're the reason our lives are fucking ruined and we won't stop until we get revenge" to being buddy-buddy is just a step too far for me.

Yes, it's another case of Ian writing stories he knows he can't finish. Yes, Evan wants to "redeem" her because women can't be evil.
I would have been fine with "shedding the hate" to make it less targeted at Sonic specifically, but they've over-corrected far too much.

I just don't like it and I'm mad.
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They came for Sonally first and it worked. It's not an impossible scenario that Sonamy dies in the future too. SEGA just might be okay with it too because they still seem to fear the legacy of Sonic 06 to this day.
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>573596409
I hope Honeyfriend comes back
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>>573604531
Okay, I see what you mean now. Surge did start by wanting to essentially destroy the world and lost that urge in a puff of smoke, that's true. I mean at least she still wants to kill Sonic so they haven't completely abandoned the story.
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>>573604839
Knuckles
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>>573604839
Sonic
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New collab with a restaurant called mostaza, for poor brown latinx countries like argentina, paraguay, uruguay and bolivia

Lel these look like super low budget versions of the jakks pacific figures, poor amy lost her quills
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>>573599473
Ive never seen a fan kid that was actually an interesting character as opposed to a cliche teen drama trope.
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>>573604839
the entire Boom cast
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>>573604293
>woke’s fault
Yes. They are the end all be all problem because
>checks notes
They are in control of the IDW Sonic comics. I'd post one of the Gigi pics but that's too easy.
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>>573600654
Evan should have more say on Amy as a character
Her writing of her was the best of IDW. Everyone else plays her too sterile.
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You guys cry about IDW's writing but would you really trust any singular namefag here with writing a Sonic story better than Ian or Evan? I don't think so.
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>>573604159 (Me)
Nvm I found it https://nitter.poast.org/MisterCrits/status/2075346046235078834
Also here's him admitting (while using some clever wording) that they'll make changes to the profiles and then try to have the changes applied to the Japanese versions as well https://nitter.poast.org/MisterCrits/status/2075577805027582296
The more this guy talks the less I trust him
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>>573604159
Go to Chris’ account on Twitter and go to his replies. He replied to an Amy fan named Avery. I wish I had the link on me right now but I don’t
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>>573603987
Those arent mutually exclusive.

>>573604154
I dont know how this is supposed to show Amy isn't relevant. She is the most relevant character after the locks.
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>>573605171
>You guys cry about IDW's writing but would you really trust any singular namefag here with writing a Sonic story better than Ian or Evan?
Yes
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>>573604303
JdFrank20/Sonamychannel....
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>>573604907
>so they haven't completely abandoned the story.
I don't expect they ever will.
Granted I've long since dropped the comic, my last knowledge was Kit creating disasters so Surge can look like a hero? Something along those lines.
I suspect that will just pivot into Kit going too far and Surge going full hero to stop him and declaring "ye i'm good now".

Would be nice to be wrong but I'm also too checked out of it to care.
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the real reason idw staff is going to busky is because theyre losing. woke twitter is losing. they cant handle it.
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>>573605282
>at the top 4 places: the top dogs with most of the votes with 93% total
>at 5th place: the damsel with 5% of the vote count. wow so relevant!
>then comes all the literal whos...
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>>573605268
I hate how dishonest that guy is. The "lore team" was a mistake
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>>573605486
Yeah anon the woke will lose any second now for real this time, my favorite grifter said so
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I was gonna go on a speel about how it's the woke that control IDW Sonic but then I got reminded of how much of a lolcow Gigi. This is why you need to tardwrangle your freelancers, Sega.
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Anyways, Tails!
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>>573605529
Considering how sidelined, actively hidden and supposedly despised she is, yes its a big deal.
The characters above her are basically untouchables.
Even Metal Sonic who has a really loud base and who is skilled a lot is well below her despite the OVA and everything.
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>>573605208
replace
>one Sonic globally
with
>ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT
Oh, you think I'm joking? These are control-freaks who found aniche to control. Literally cut from the same cloth!
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>>573605460
I suspect you're right. With a good dose of Surge giving Kit that terrible "therapy-speak" that's so prevalent in this comic's writing. I mean if they give that dialogue to Sonic, why not to Surge.
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>>573605683
I want shadow edgier, meaner and more willing to do "the needed thing" over the right thing. He should always try to kill eggman and sonic should try to stop him.
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>>573605770
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>>573605554
I’m so happy that he’s getting chewed out on Twitter. He has no way out
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>>573605683
the people who made shadow all disagree with you comicfag
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>>573600654
You niggers praised mania and srb2, it's your fault
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>>573606091
>sonic should try to stop him.
shut the fuck up, ian
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>>573604839
All of them.
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>>573606420
Ironically if we get GAME DEVELOPERS to lead the GAME SERIES then we'd be in a far better place!
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>>573606629
Get me to lead the game series, Im the best. Whisper third person shooter where you take out eggman robots and her ass jiggles like Nikke.
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>>573606629
West niggers will paid negative reviews to jap kino like 06
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>>573605770
Weird, my favorite breadtube grifter says acceptance of diversity is all time high.

Now which grifter grifts more?
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>CyberDime Realm
>Tortured Planet
>Onions Sestancia 2
>Mystic Realm (pretty but it fucks with the abilities of even modded characters for no real reason so I don't like playing it)
>everything else is either a "demo" or a level collab
WHERE SRB2 LEVELSETS
I'M RUNNING OUT OF (good) SRB2 MAPSETS TO PLAY
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>>573606775
Fuck off westfaggot
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Do you know what should we do? Slowly twist the heads off to little mobian critters.
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>>573606738
We don't need to do that anymore. All we need to do is say noncanon!
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Amy's love for Sonic is downplayed in the japanese version.
The original described her as a girl in love with love.
The new one doesn't mention love at all.

However, the new one does maintain her chase dynamic with Sonic, and mentions clearly she is trying to catch his eye.

These are absent in the new English bios.

If you are gonna criticize the bio, do it well. Any and all discrepancies can and will be used to dismiss the criticism as baseless anf misplaced.

They will take 1 off panels from IDW to say "what are you talking about?" As if they represent the consistent way the character is portrayed, let alone in the games.
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>>573590213
She’s worthless when she’s forced to be in Sonic’s world. Literally just another friend on the sidelines like the rest of them.
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>>573603858
And that point, doing that is what would be subversive. Like, not really but sorta.
>>573604303
Sonamychannel...
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>>573606839
I doubt Shadow hates Eggman like that.
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Blaze, Rouge, Cream are garbage
Amy is kino
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>>573606420
>he bought forces
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You're gonna be massively dissapointed when Fowler will make Sonic a cuck and Amy a girlboss who efortlessly destroys entire armies of Metal Sonics
Or wait, he did just that
God, you're as gullible towards Fowler as Sonicfags towards SoA and IDW
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>>573605208
>>573606269
You haven't mentioned the funniest part yet. They tried adding a community note to the leak tweet. https://files.catbox.moe/wyrjvc.jpg
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>>573605829
She stopped doing it after one anon sent feedback to SEGA.
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>>573605171
Yeah, one or two of them seem to actually understand the assignment.
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>>573607496
tweeted today
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>>573607085
Holy basederoni!
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>>573590872
No, play Rush. They arent even really rivals really. Rush is a game where she shows up in Sonic's world and everyone shoves friendship down her throat while talking about how great Sonic is, she seethes about it a bit, fights him out of seethe, loses and then admits he is cool and looses up and lets herself have friends.
The problem with Blaze is there isn't really a way for her to be used in a way that integrates her into the cast without undermining everything people like about her or giving her prominence.
Her arc was the only real thing she had, so really the logical thing to do with her woulf be for her to start making friends in her own dimension, carrying the lesson forward.
But you cant really do that without making her the center of attention.
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>>573604957
Not just her quills, her entire fit is fucked up lol. Phamy
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>>573607685
Now that's just poor bait.
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>>573607420
Rouge is also based.
Amy and and her should beef more. No slandering Batgirl.
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Some of the fans who have worked on the series are great. Taxman and Hesse are obvious examples. I'm not a huge fan of Tee Lopes' music (some is alright, most I don't care), but he causes no harm either.

That said, I hate how a subset of the fanbase has started praising fans above everyone else, especially Sonic Team. This includes the ones I mentioned above. This isn't even praising fans anymore, it's just using them as an excuse to hate on Sonic Team. The response to Sonic Superstars was really sad, as was the response to the one mockup of "Mania 2", a game that never even existed. They just hated and liked them based on who made them, rather than what they actually were.

This in turn makes it seen as acceptable or even positive in the community to hire fans and give them power over the series' actual creators. Now being a fan working on the series must be "good" because "it's not Sonic Team". If it's a fan of a spinoff like Archie instead of the main series, then you're supposed to accept that. Chris has played Generations, so you should be okay with him making changes to the series

>>573607490
At first I thought the screenshot was more likely to be fake, but I'm not so sure and some things make me reconsider. Either way though, it really doesn't matter if it's real or not. What the screenshot says is extremely realistic and believable, and matches what's been going on with the series in recent years, such as the Frontiers script changes. We've known for years that this is what they're doing. I don't know why anyone tries to deny it. Even Chris isn't fully denying it, he's just using some clever words to trick less critical thinkers into perceiving it differently. Kishimoto, Evan, Chris, and probably a bunch of other people, have already told us and shown us that this is what's happening. Even if the Discord messages are fake, the situation they describe is real
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I think Grant and the leaker are both dumbasses
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>>573577676
This is a list of the main series pre-issue 50, where would you expect them to be?
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>>573607685
I'm sure Gigi would still be very upset if you called her a tranny, troon, tranoid, or 41%er (or whatever the number is now).
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>>573605413
But are they wrong?

>>573607261
He’s not wrong
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>>573607757
>Her arc was the only real thing she had, so really the logical thing to do with her woulf be for her to start making friends in her own dimension, carrying the lesson forward.
>But you cant really do that without making her the center of attention
You’re exactly right anon. Unfortunately since many prefer her being in Sonic’s world and don’t give a fuck about the Sol dimension (even the writers want to collapse the dimension into Sonic’s) that’ll never happen at this rate.
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>>573608126
>This isn't even praising fans anymore, it's just using them as an excuse to hate on Sonic Team
That's been the angle for 10 years, anon. It's how Ian even got to write for the games.
Its this "the fans need to save Sonic from thr "shitty devs" mentality birthed from classicuck fangame spaces and adopted by other groups.
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what are we having a melty about this time, and why will it not matter in a few months because we've gone through whatever the fuck it is you guys are whining about a hundred times already
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>>573608126
>Even if the Discord messages are fake, the situation they describe is real
Based and Shadowpilled.
Also well said.
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>>573608265
Explain. They have literally done nothing to deserve or earn these assumptions and grace about Amy. It's literally just vilainizing Sonic Team and painting them as saviors out of cope and desperation.
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>>573608397
Yeah I know. But at the same time fans have indeed done great things for the series, both officially and unofficially. I loved the Retro Engine games and you probably did too. The responses to Superstars and the "Mania 2" mockup were way more skewed in favor of the "the fans are better" narrative than I ever expected. I knew that attitude existed, I underestimated how much it had spread
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Sonic Team still designs better games than fans
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>>573607685
I meant using Sonic as "Sonic agrees with my politics" shit. But, well, she's still saying dumb shit..
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Boy boy boy

>>573608875
Depends on the game
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How would you personally feel about a boy character that looks just like a girl but is actually a boy and not woke
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>>573609148
I'd love it honestly.
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>>573609148
Kino!
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>>573609148
That it's a transvestite and only faggots like them?
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>>573609148
Traps are good as long as they don't have political undertones beneath them
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>please don't put politics into my media talking about freedom and ecology
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>>573606092
Source: chud magazine

This like Nintendo power giving a 10/10 to a mario game
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>>573609876
Nothing is political unless people make it political.
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>>573609148
That it'll be great and then somebody is going to insist on him as an example of heckin trans representation like what happened with Br****t and then it'll be the only thing people talk about and then it'll be ruined in my head again
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>>573606767
Obviously spreading hate is easier

No one wants news about everyone getting along nicely
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What interpretations? Fowler's?
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>>573608283
If we did that, Blaze's character would be ruined. You might as well invent a new OC who is similar to Blaze called Ember or something.
The fact she had to leave Sonic's world but takes the lessons she learned and the power of friendship with her was the crescendo of her arc.
Even the writer of her channel story said as much that they are best to handle things in their seperate worlds.

But some people just want this series to be the power rangers furry legion fighting off eggman and aura farming anf nothing else I suppose.
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Tails' tails!
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>>573610202
Everything is political, every take you have in existence,life or society will reflect on your personal policies whenever you're in charge. And i am tired of pretending otherwise just to avoid provoking a resonnace cascade of seethe.
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>>573608792
The movie writers have ambition and enthusiasm to write Amy. They have big plans for her. Sonic Team doesn’t
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>>573610636
Knuckles' knuckles!
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>>573608852
>I loved the Retro Engine games and you probably did too.
Ofc I did! I don't even hate Ian. This is a fandom problem.
>The responses to Superstars and the "Mania 2" mockup were way more skewed in favor of the "the fans are better" narrative than I ever expected. I knew that attitude existed, I underestimated how much it had spread
If anything goes wrong, people will literally blame Sega and Sonic Team for it. If it goes write, its Ian or the fans doing.
Ive seen people on Twitter who complain about the synopsis for the new Blaze and Silver story and they unitonically went "omg why does Sega/Sonic Team hate Blaze", even though they aren't even writing the story.

Shadow Gens is well received? ALL Ian's doing. Sega and Sonic Team clearly wanted Shadow to be bad and Ian fought tooth and nail for it!

Its insane and I hate it
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>>573609068
The only game made by fans that is arguably better than some Sonic Team games in Mania, which had Sonic Team's involvement anyway.

Even stuff like Before and After The Sequel are carried by how impressive they were as fan made projects relative to the time, rather than good games that stand up to scrutiny when compared to Sonic Team games.
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>>573610636
Both are beautiful
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>>573610451
>The main characters in the franchise, like Tails or Knuckles, do not have familial ties to Sonic.
Amy is not a main character...
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Sonic Team games are kino
Fan games are garbage
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>>573609876
>freedom and ecology
Based retard that thinks these are inherently political rather than philosophical.
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>>573611132
I love Forces
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>>573609148
Sounds cool
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>>573611227
me too
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>>573610379
People never got along nicely.
>spreading hate is easier
Wrong, spreading hate is hard if that hate is not shared.
Spreading lies is easier, you don't want to upset a woman asking if a dress makes her look fat.
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>>573610636
Fang's fang!
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>>573611048
Indeed
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>>573611227
More like FECES!
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>>573610750
Literally only americans think this because they jave replaced things like ethics and religion with politics. America has no real culture outside of having an enemy to dominate while calling them evil to reassert its own goodness.


>>573610840
Bro trying to call thr Sonic Movies ambitious just because thry have fancy special effects.

>enthusiasm to write Amy.
Doesn't mean they are enthusiastic about wtiting her faithfully.

>They have big plans for her. Sonic Team doesn’t

Sonic Team are voices involves in the movie and seemingly the ones that insisted on her actually being cute rather than a stone cold character.

You dont know what youre talking about.
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>>573611418
^-^
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>>573611317
sause pls
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>>573611508
:D
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>>573610848
Rose's roses.
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>>573611654
Cutie boy
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Name a valuable thing euros and americans brought to the world.
You can't.
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>>573611502
>Literally only americans think this because they jave replaced things like ethics and religion with politics
Ethics and religion always reflected on politics. America only problem is to turn politics into a wrestling event with actors pretending to own shit, but it's all performative.
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>>573563136
amy and rouge were drawn
https://imgchest.com/p/bp45voz82y5
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Can we talk about Sonic please
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>>573607757
Blaze should appear on the basis occasional team-ups. The Sonic Channel short story about them is essentially that, with the Emeralds guiding them to get together to solve some problem, and they then catch-up about their lives, their differences are highlighted and ultimately some progress on either side is made on integrating more of the other's manner of heroism. Surprisingly, that story ended up with Sonic integrating something of Blaze's more than otherwise at the end, because it also showed that even then Blaze could not open her heart fully to others, which is something Sonic likes about her, ironically.

I don't think she needs to be in the spotlight, Rush Adventure showed her making friends with Marine well enough, for example. They just need to keep the character relatively aloof, as someone who still struggles to be like Sonic, but has her own worth because of that. She can't just be a background character or a sidekick like what 06 and Silver made her, she needs a good dynamic to bounce off her aloofness instead of just making her Silver's therapist or Sonic's not-girlfriend.
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>>573611862
Euros actively attacked the slave trade, gave us kino like bagpipes, eurobeat, Carameldansen, etc
America is just Kafabe bs.
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>>573611801
:)

>>573611862
>euros
The English language, allowing us to communicate right now. Sonic uses it too in the Japanese version because English is cool

>americans
The name "Tails"
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>Sonic Team is keeping the SoA gaijin, especially the lore teamsters, in the dark to seal up the leak pipeline
What are the chances Paramount/Fowlers are doing the same and Movie 4 Amy has no bearing on what the attempts on her character?
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>>573611928
>Ethics and religion always reflected on politics
No, it was the reverse. Religion used to have an effect on how politics were handled.
Them having effect and influence isnt the same as it being one and the same thing.
There is a name for this fallacy.
Composition/division fallacy.
>America only problem is to turn politics into a wrestling event with actors pretending to own shit, but it's all performative.
That's just an extension of ehat i described ultimately.
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>>573611287
>spreading hate is hard
>spreading lies is easier
Spreading lies that cause hate is extremely easy
that's how spreading hate works retard
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>>573611862
>Name a valuable thing euros and americans brought to the world.
The entire industrial system, the entire scientific world, a shitton of philosophical takes, literature after literature... i mean, we didn't always suck ass.
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>>573612040
>Blaze should appear on the basis occasional team-ups. The Sonic Channel short story about them is essentially that, with the Emeralds guiding them to get together to solve some problem, and they then catch-up about their lives, their differences are highlighted and ultimately some progress on either side is made on integrating more of the other's manner of heroism. Surprisingly, that story ended up with Sonic integrating something of Blaze's more than otherwise at the end, because it also showed that even then Blaze could not open her heart fully to others, which is something Sonic likes about her, ironically.
It's literally a nothing story really.
Sonic goes to Blaze's world to babysit her for a bit before going back to his.
It doesn't really address the core issue with the character and her storyline and how centralizing it is
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that new way of interpreting amy's character while are not inline with the original intentions of being a sonic fangirl. they are still valid
>but why change anything at all
nothing much has changed imo. they only removed some "unnecessary baggage" because they probably want to establish her as an independent character who is not just an accessory to sonic. a girl character who is not exclusively bound to sonic and has enough space to be used in a solo setting. the motive is feminism stuff.
There's a good possibility that paramount is involved. since sega themselves don't care much about amy. and paramount has expressed desire at making a solo amy series.
>but my ship
the crush part got demoted from primary character trait to a transient trait. whether it's present or not depends on the media where amy is used. a third party can now make amy crush on sonic. or crush on someone else or not crush at all. it's third party flexibility.
>but the original intentions
lol.
that's my interpretation because that's how i would have done the job
given the job's requirements are
>we want important female main character who can carry a plot
>it has to be amy
>no you can't bring sally back who was more fitting for this role
>no you cannot make an oc because amy is already recognizable

here's what's going on, now shut the fuck up and stop spamming the threads. autismo
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Whites are a blight to humanity
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>>573612305
Spreading lies to make everyone feel comfortable and ignore real problems is also dangerous. Ever heard of toxic positivity?
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>>573612390
There unironically needs to be a Sonic Adventure + Rose Story. She busts Sonic out of prison and finds Shadow in the ARK, it's really strange she wasn't playable in the story.
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>>573612040
>I don't think she needs to be in the spotlight, Rush Adventure showed her making friends with Marine well enough, for example.
I don't agree she wasnt in that game. Marine's arc is more central imo, but her and Marine's dynamic is the cire crux of the story.
Even then that only works because it takes place in her dimension and every other character besides Sonic and Tails is absent.
If you plot Blaze into a story with yhe core cast, it has to be about her or she just kind of devolves into "fire girl smash" and nothing else.
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Sonic forces his wiener in you
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>>573612314
>The entire industrial system, the entire scientific world, a shitton of philosophical takes,
Most of that shit was cribbed from the east and then smeared with manichaeism
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Tails is so fucking cute aaargh
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>>573612973
Why does he have a bruise on his naked hand?
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>>573612901
>You improved tenfold all my ideas
Oh i'm sorry if we took the asian cannon and made a million different firearms and weapon systems, nigger.
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>>573612413
CONT
Paramount are absolutely behind it. sega would not suddenly start to care about amy for no reason. heck they didn't care about Shadow until movie 2 has Shadow in its post trailer. SXSG was not going to have a Shadow part. it was going to be a remake of OG gens and no more. and this is from Sonic Team themselves. SXSG was only going to be a cheapass remake of of gens and movie 3 got them to add Shadow,
Now whether Amy or metal become as big as Shadow inside sega or not after movie 4. that's something else. movie 3 got them to use shadow and shadow being a cash cow got him to stay.
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>>573612973
Apparently one of the guys working on the pinball table is a tailsfag
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>>573613090
It's not a bruise just a blush for aesthetic effect
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>>573613250
>improved
Lmao all you did was rob shit and try to zerg rush. The mod to late game is hitting bro.
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>>573613343
Cool. Who is it?
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>>573613090
>spoiler
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<333333
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>>573613528
Yes we zerg rushed everyone, which is why we cause a cultural shock all around the world because of industrialism. Try a better cope, human progress was always a civilization after another taking the stuff of the older ones and advancing.
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>>573610865
>Shadow Gens is well received? ALL Ian's doing
Who said that?
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>>573614048
>we
The "niggers" you cry about are the ones making lasting cultural impact lmao.
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>>573613610
>gloves
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Yes we get it, you want to cuddle with Tails and give him a gentle handjob while his swishy fluffy tails brush against your chin
get new material
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Talk about Sonic

Or Tails
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>>573614110
By dying of fentanyl and looting trains.
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>>573613283
Nobody wants feminist Amy except Ivo Gerscovich
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>>573609148
I like it but too bad they’re inherently pozzed thanks to trannies self inserting
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>>573614253
wouldn't it be pretty funny is a creature bigger than tailsd caught him butchered him skewered him bbqd him then ate him i mean haha
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>>573614074
YouTube videos and comments.
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>>573614518
Since when did the jewish care what you think?
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>>573613250
>sorry if we took the asian cannon and made a million different firearms
Yes thank you so much for giving guns to illiterate niggers
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Der fuchs.
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>>573614627
Since their parasitic colony in the Middle East lost its reputational standing on a global scale
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No real jpchad likes white people
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>>573614462
By being the basis of all your cultural exports. Lmao white americans
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>>573615009
>"white" americans
Give it about four more generations.
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>>573614545
Nein

>>573614825
Ja!
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>Rouge rouged her last rouge and got caught redhanded
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>>573614825
Ist böse.
Der fuchs muss besser und böser werden.
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Methinks I just found a new Sonic clone to add to the list.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2927510/KilaFlow/
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>>573614762
Build is fun, destroying is funnier.
Building stuff to destroy is even funnier.

Cannons? Firearms? Bombs? Here in fiona shop we sell anything you desire! We just had to wage war for 10.000 years in the european continent, but the result is remarkable!
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>>573615136
poor cutie
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Blaze fans across the Internet don't seem very happy that she's getting a spotlight in the comic, what's wrong?
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>>573615009
Just because a company invented a new medicine doesn't mean you should turn that into a drug.
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>>573615308
>10.000
I wonder how many Fionanons here are Euros. Which country you from?
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>>573615496
She's jobbing to Silver. IDW Silver...
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>>573599968
I really like the idea in theory
I think the majority of designs official or not are way too template like to ever really create anything interesting with it tho
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>>573615496
probably the comic
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>>573615648
Ouch. That's low.
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Ivo Gerscovich is a descendant of money lenders. He loves money a lot so deprive him of it and he’ll care
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>>573614545
How about 'HOG instead?!
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>>573615861
>"oh sonic stopped selling"
>*shelves sonic*
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>>573612673
I feel like they should have given Amy a couple of stages instead of putting in the driving stages, but that's a major hindsight opinion.
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>>573612413
>that new way of interpreting amy's character while are not inline with the original intentions of being a sonic fangirl. they are still valid
Thr point wasn't that she was a fangirl. Thr framing of her as a fangirl is an westernism and archieism.
Her direction staring SA1 is that she is Sonicyume kouhai who wants senpai to notice her, and pushes herself yo be her best because of it.
>because they probably want to establish her as an independent character who is not just an accessory to sonic.
But she wasn't. If anything, she was a complication for him. Tails is more an accessory to him than the reverse. The dynamic is that Sonic is HER muse.
>has enough space to be used in a solo setting.
She already did.
Trial By Fire is a great example.
>ship
Idgaf about shipping. Thr charactrr just doesnt have a hook without it. "Love is my superpower and gives me wings" was the point. "Never giving up on your wishes and dreams" was the point.
Thr character is just "the girl one with a hammer" without it, or with it demoted as a minor trait. She has no narrative now.
>or crush on someone else or not crush at all. it's third party flexibility
I always knew it was shipfaggotry that was to blame.
>no you can't bring sally back who was more fitting for this role
Nice shitpost.
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Aaaaaa!
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Bun!
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It's all about economic efficiency, if it wasn't me stripping resources from this earth it would have been someone else... And with a worse ethics than mine.
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^-^
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>>573615136
SCANA
>its a j-
Not even the right kind of bat.
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JPbros how do we stop the fangame menace?
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>>573616025
Tails isn't an accessory to Sonic. They go on adventures together because they share a strong bond and help each other as close partners. Both Sonic and Tails do their own things and have their own lives
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>>573615398
>Shadow: my only regret...is that I...didn't cry over Maria more...
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>>573612673
The problem is that SA2 was a rushjob built on a modified SA1 engine, they liked the Hero/Dark angle and crippled Tails to counter Fatman but but they only had time to implement three playstyles/rivals. Amy could've been a fourth, but she'd need a counterpart in the story.
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>>573615626
And i thought i was the only yuro cracker.
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>>573616241
>SCANA
not true
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>>573616375
BOOBS!
MILKERS!
HONKERS!
GAZOINGAZOINGS!
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>>573615308
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>>573616025
>Her direction staring SA1 is that she is Sonicyume kouhai who wants senpai to notice her, and pushes herself yo be her best because of it.
doesn't conflict with what I claim
>But she wasn't. If anything, she was a complication for him. Tails is more an accessory to him than the reverse. The dynamic is that Sonic is HER muse.
Doesn't conflict with what I claim. She is only around when Sonic is around as well
>charactrr just doesnt have a hook without it. "Love is my superpower and gives me wings" was the point. "Never giving up on your wishes and dreams" was the point.
That's what I meant when I said
>they only removed some "unnecessary baggage"
They don't want that anymore. No, they don't care about how you see it or what was originally intended on paper.
>or crush on someone else or not crush at all. it's third party flexibility
it's feminism shit. really. shipping or not is up to you.
>nice shitpost
I won't ask you to elaborate. just sit back and watch :^)
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>>573616152
Cute!
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>>573615626
>>573616375
Fiona The Bong
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>>573616607
>pic
what dr robotniks penis looks like
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>>573616623
<3
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>>573612673
I don't get why you equate "doing important things" with "was supposed to be playable".
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>Which country you from?
I'm from--saaaay! Nice try, Sea-Eye-Ay!!
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>>573616875
That's not what they said, though.
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>>573616875
There is some evidence that Amy was meant to be playable in SA2, at least to a degree. There's unused text from the Chao Garden which refers to Amy if you were playing as her
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There is no good fan game in history
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>>573616983
What if movie 4 had a random crazy woman on the street with hair tied up like Sticks who was ranting about conspiracy theories?
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what if tails met the joker
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>>573616364
>she'd need a counterpart in the story
That's Maria

>>573617057
She is playable in multiplayer, that might have something to do with it
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>>573616983
Sticks is from Boston.
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I hate moralfaggots.
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>>573617060
That includes any Sonic game not made with the full Sonic 1 team's involvement. Official fan games are still fan games.
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>>573617168
>She is playable in multiplayer, that might have something to do with it
nta, good point, but I also recall she's the only unlockable multiplayer character with voiceclips in the Dreamcast version? Could be wrong..
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>>573615987
This pic related is so reductive.
Most of those listed examples arent even like Amy at all.
Yes if you boil Amy down to "pink girl who is excitable and talks about boys" you can find characters that are vaguely similar, but even back then they were not the norm or the standard.
What Amy is and is becoming now is something that was generic even before the 2000s and was still generic during the 2000s and is generic even today.
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>>573617060
What about mods?
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>>573617357
The replies are as you would expect, too. Full of the usual apologists who say she's better now (they don't actually like her and can't explain how she's better) and the people who say it's "weird" to care about it.
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>>573617276
Stop outing yourself as a pedofag
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>>573616336
Show an onscreen example within the last 25 years of Tails doing any such thing.
All i can think of is Spagonia University which is ultimately just a thing Tails does so he can conveniently provide Sonic with more exposition.

Amy is never really been this for Sonic. Her role has usually historically been a complication for him to deal with rather than a convenience.
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Fans are pathetic! "ooh, ooh! put me in the bweakfest tablew, pweaaaase! i wote fagname datgot likes! pweeeeeease!"
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>>573617523
You got pedophiles in your brain.
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>>573616375
I'm American, actually, but I like to keep in touch with the Euros. Only love to you guys from across the pond. For the love of God though, get some fucking ACs.
>>573616657
>"Oi Scourge! Can I bum a ciggy?"
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what if giganto ate the hoker
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>HMPH. I AM THE COOLEST!
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:)
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Fangames are as bad as Archie and IDW
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what if tails played some poker
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>>573617742
Here’s a gif, dude.
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hmph
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>>573617580
...doing what?

Going on adventures with Sonic out of his own volition? He does that all the time

Or maybe you mean having his own life. Well he lives by himself, in fact he owns multiple houses. He reprogrammed Gemerl for Cream because he just felt like it. As you said there's the Spagonia thing. And many stuff in Sonic Channel as well, though you probably don't see them as "on screen" (whatever that means, it's irrelevant anyways)
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>>573617742
Actually we have AC but i guess that meme never spoils. I always loved america in the end every interesting shit happens there, just wish you guys would get your shit together once again.
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Ban euro and american posters
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>>573616607
>doesn't conflict with what I claim
Yes it does.
>Doesn't conflict with what I claim. She is only around when Sonic is around as well
That's literally not meaningfully true. You can say this about every character because Sonic is the main character.
Amy actually is away from Sonic more than other characters.
>They don't want that anymore. No, they don't care about how you see it or what was originally intended on paper.
They clearly do because her japanese profile and descriptions maintain this hook.
>it's feminism shit. really.
Doesn't read as it at all. Its definitely shipping. The idea is probably something like "the girls that project onto her would rather her be more shippable with everyone rather than a guy who won't settle down with her".
>I won't ask you to elaborate.
I would rather Blaze but she is stuck being chained to her meme rocks and dimension lore and her fags just want her to be the main character.
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>>573618140
>ACs are not outlawed where you’re from
Ok I believe you now, you’re definitely not a bong.
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HOW IS YOUR TEAMWORK TODAY, TEAM /STHG/?!
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>>573618249
who would even be left at that point?
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>>573616397
You post this everytime like its some kind of gacha and I dont get why
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>>573618196
Old Aogirinaru seemed to like making him blush a lot
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>>573618361
Literally no one.
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>>573618061
>dodging
Having his own life outside of Sonic. Everything he does ultimately ties back to being useful to Sojic.
>He reprogrammed Gemerl for Cream because he just felt like it.
Related in every way to his adventures with Sonic.
>can't list an example
My point exactly. No double standards.
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>>573617580
>>573618061
The games revolve around Sonic's adventures, so Tails is going to be involved through that. This means we need to look at what Tails was doing before the story starts to determine if he was doing his own thing or not. Most of the time, he is

>>573618438
Tails blushing is amazing
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>>573618361
A single arab shadowfag.
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>>573618494
>all the foreignposters have died
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>>573618361
SEA posters. *Shudders*
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I hate fangame niggers so much
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I fucking hate fangames
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>>573618634
Ok I'm not understanding what your damage is. Tails lives by himself, has his own connections, does his own projects, but apparently none of that matters because it's tangentially tied to Sonic. You'll just twist everything I say into being about Sonic

>>573618651
Yep
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No people on earth should feel guilt and only guilt, people also need to know their worth.
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I love fangame friends so much
I fucking love fangames

>>573618951
:)
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No jpchad enjoys fanslop
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>>573617494
Then bringing up Clover was especially weird since she doesn't even fit the description.
She has other traits Amy has like liking shopping i guess? But she doesnt have those exclusively compared to the rest of the cast nor does she have any of Amy's other traits.

Its like, to these people, if Smy do much as speaks sweet and bubbly about Sonic they just check out immediately, as their brain begins projecting a bunch of other characters over her for the rest of her time onscreen.
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Sonic Mania?
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some jp made an archie fangame 12 years ago.
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>>573619021
0v0
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>>573618012
Thanks
>>573618140
>Actually we have AC
Not even close to a majority though. Picrel is almost a decade old but I think the current numbers aren't much better, like 20%? It varies from country to country a lot though. I think Italy and Greece have somewhat decent numbers, like ~60%.
> I always loved america in the end every interesting shit happens there
Agreed, though I think plenty of interesting stuff COULD happen from Europe today, if the public and governments got a jolt kick of energy. Poland and France seem like the only major EU countries that have that sort of spirit to them still, with decently sized militaries and France's willingness to do shit like meddle in African states or maintain a (relatively) decent nuclear arsenal.
>just wish you guys would get your shit together once again.
We do too.
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>Came in time for boyposting.
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>>573618342
I did a pizza roll
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>>573618951
>has his own connections
But he doesn't. The only one he is established to have only exists so he can provide Sonic with more exposition.
>does his own projects, but apparently none of that matters because it's tangentially tied to Sonic. You'll just twist everything I say into being about Sonic
Welcome to being an Amyfan.
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>>573619293
Nice!
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Fan games used to be fun because they were kids who were trying their damndest to learn how to gamedev. Sonic Robo-Blast 1 and and Klick n'Play game oozes sovl despite the jank. Now play a modern fangame, or more specifically, a fangame after youtube was invented. It's all cheap toys vying for streamer attention. "Woooooweee Eggman Hates FURRIES?!? xD I bet he heckin' does! Won't see Segendo make THAT!! If only they hiiiiired that man!"
The only good fangames these days are transformative ones that use Sonic as an inspiration but do its own thing.
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>>573619290
Heatwaves aside, it's simply not hot enough year round to dedicate the money needed for AC.
Going forward, perhaps, but again many can't afford to have it fitted into these old ass houses.

So we will simply have to deal with the mugginess and try not to die.
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all this talk about fan games make me wonder how many people played sonic the pervert 1 and 2 as their first Sonic fan games
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>>573619290
>cold countries have less AC
I bet we have more stoves.
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>>573619641
>>573619641
>>573619641
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>>573619237
(:

>>573619293
Yay!
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>>573619389
Yeah bro that's how storytelling works. Things are added to a story to serve some kind of purpose. It doesn't mean the thing doesn't exist, or can't be expanded upon (which it was), or has no meaning. You're being very obtuse and pedantic for no reason
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Mania, SRB2 good
Adventure 2 good
Classic Sonic good except for the very first game which sucks because Marble Zone is in it, holy shit it's so fucking bad what a dogshit garbage ass level
Chaotix okay??? I think???
Advance gay
Frontiers gay
Forces gay
06 gay
(You)r mom gay
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>>573619216
>Its like, to these people, if Smy do much as speaks sweet and bubbly about Sonic they just check out immediately, as their brain begins projecting a bunch of other characters over her for the rest of her time onscreen.
That's all it is. There are only so many ways you can phrase the same thing: They don't like how she used to be, they didn't like her acting like a teenage girl, they thought shew as annoying, etc. The end result is that they just don't really care about her at all.
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>>573615496
She is being mind controlled so you don't get to see a lot of the character
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>>573619784
>Classic Sonic good except for the very first game which sucks because Marble Zone is in it, holy shit it's so fucking bad what a dogshit garbage ass level
Wanna know something interesting, Tailsbro?
>Palmtree Panic = Green Hill
>Collision Chaos = Spring Yard
>Tidal Tempest = Labyrinth
>Quartz Quadrant = (new)
>Wacky Workbench = (new)
>Stardust Speedway = Star Light
>Metallic Madness = Scrap Brain
Round 2 (Dubious Depths) was likely going to be the Marble Zone stand-in.
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>>573619702
I legit dont get how you dont see the point im illustrating.



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