Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://gbf.wiki/Granblue_Fantasy:_Relink>FAQhttps://rentry.org/RelinkFAQ>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackOld thread: >>573468292
what active summons are you liking bros? quakadile and lurker in the dark are falling off with all these human-sized super mobile bossesI think mechanized executioner is fucking absurd but I don't have one with usable skills
>>573646387Good to see my meme still making the rounds.
Lobby ID: 9LF6 5PPS TT8N NAKYPW: MaggersLobby still up 3/4 going through Chaos++
>>573646590I honestly forget summons even exist and just equip whatever ones give passive sigils I want cause I'm too busy unga bungaing.
>the character you're playing most right now>your thoughts on them and their masteries
>>573646743Full?>>573646943IogawdlikeThe concentration mastery is crack.
Damage Cap, but for your assAss Cap
PSA: don't ignore the red shiny
>>573646943EustaceMore shooty
>>573647043Just filled up! Sorry about that.
>>573646943Idmy y button is going to break and I'm having a blastgodmight mastery. dragonform sucks, haven't tried the fourfold spam one yet but it might be funny, can't see it being that good though but could be wrong
How do summons work for AI partners?
>>573646943fedielthe miasma claw spam one is lame as shit but apparently busted. both the skill damage and finisher damage one are a lot of fun and seem solidas an aside I cannot fucking believe they didn't give vaseraga a tanking mastery with netherwrath and instead just gave him three different damage paths. at least his charged parry path is pretty goodI do not have mastery 50 yet though, going through the 3 fights right now
>>573647324they don't use them.
is anyone playing danchou? give me your buildim not at end game yet but im coping they get less boring to play
>>573647253You playing on Steam?
>>573647070holy shit
>>573647409But do the stats do anything?
>>573647459yep but breaking the Y button is part of the experience, I'm sure some other gorillas can relate
>>573647551>zeta hp with and without a terra summon50k73kSeems like it.
>>573646943>VaneTree one seemed really good at first, but is kinda eh overall.Tree two i haven't tried, but the utility and support seems funny and probably ideal for AI Vane.Tree 3 is hilariously busted in the sense of never fucking die as long as you press triangle.>>573647403>finisher>solidhttps://x.com/i/status/2075493414771069401
>>573647070Where is it?
>>573648298People really thought that Fediel was weaker than Fraux
lmfao i queued 3 times for volka chaos+ surely there are people who run brand new content???
>>573646943FedielOptimized minmax animation cancelling orb spam deals extreme amounts, builds up a fuckton of damage/stun/sba and is extremely safe to do at a distanceShes pretty fun with all the teleporting tech on battles too.
>>573648406On the roof of the house behind Siero. I think it appears starting from Chaos+
>>573648430even in base game no one wanted to do Volka
>>573648406Above siero in folca
>>573646943>characterCharlotta. I was hyped for Maggie but then it turned out she's a support-y sub DPS that does the 'death by a thousand cuts' shit and lost all interest and went back to my old main>thoughtsNone, everyone knows Charlotta players have empty heads. But more seriously I am kinda disappointed they kinda just reduced us back to mashing the X button. Spin got nerfed, plunge gets slapped by the boss a lot. But I suppose there's not much else they could have done that wouldn't have required whole new animations and skills. We kinda just stand there rapid slashing things but I guess no other combat style would have worked for Charlotta anyway cause she's clearly not a "slam the enemy 6 feet into the dirt with her weapon and raw brute force" type of girl. It's kinda boring but not much to be done about it. At least we get damage stacks now for holding our Y button for parries, we get to style on everybody else by being invincible half the fight and never having to back off AND we get more damage for it.>>573647561We absolutely can, but I might just do what that anon showed and use the hold function for it. I can't be buying controllers every month cause my girl's entire playstyle is mashing that one button.
>>573648298>60k hpA slight breeze will kill.
Do the summon sigils/effects that arent in your first slot work in multiplayer?
Quick charge sigils appears to have completely vanished from existence
>>573648936yeah I'm hoarding mine. other stuff like life on the line also disappeared
>>573648448Do you think they're going to nerf her? I wanted to build her but now I'm worried
>>573649359it took them 2 years to fix sandalphon and lancelotshe will be finespecially since those 2 were immortal while doing her their bullshitfediel can just get sniped from the air
any lobbies?
>>573649359>>573649607They absolutely will, just like they did do the ghost catgirl for having a similar interaction on one of her attacks during the first round of Relink.
>>573648802yup you just can't summon them
Is something somewhere shitting itself? I keep getting disconnected
>>573649670I would but my controller is recharging atm and I am gonna be eating and then likely sleeping soon after anyway.
>>573649676>catgirlferry is a donkey
>>573649968I didn't know which one. I don't give a shit about Ferry. But yeah they're definitely gonna nerf her the same way they did Ferry. And in a timely fashion just like she was too. So abuse it while you can before you have to actually play the game properly again as Fediel.
>>573650085You sound extremely salty for some reason lmaochill anon if people want to spam animation cancel for big damage its not going to affect your gameplay experience
Is there a place to farm silver centrums?
>>573650239Not salty. I just remember the sheer pissing and shitting that ensued when said similar novelty was taken away from Ferry and how NOBODY plays her anymore as a result. It was funny and I genuinely can't wait to see what kind of nuclear meltdown comes from Fediel getting reigned in too.>>573650303The Conflux.
>>573649607From what I've seen she barely gets sniped especially since the animation cancels are dodges
>>573650303You get them pretty quick just playing chaos II quests.Farm some summons or something while you're doing it
Is every damage cap source additive? Because I can see why Luci keys wouldn't matter after ER adds another few hundred percents to damage caps. Imagine going from like 600 to 630. that's 5% damage value which isn't nothing but has some pretty fair arguments for swapping to stun power or w/e.
>>573650239Did you not see all the bitching about Charlotta, Lancelot, and Sandalphon?
Super Armor bros...how do characters like Seigfried, Bea, Gallanza, etc feel like like in Ragnarok endgame?
>Encountered ONE Bea(other than myself) in 25 hours of playtime onlineHer clock ain't that hard folks.
>>573650540It's not too bad. You're more pushed towards trying to dodge/parry compared to just powering through attacks. Having Drain helps too and maybe Stout Heart and Steel Nerves I think. (I've never tested if the damage reduction is noticeable to be fair, but I just slot them in.)t. Played Gallanza up until Defy Infinity
>>573646743>>5736470433/4 spot just opened
I would never bitch about CharlottaIo, however? Anyone who plays her is just a dps leech, farming mvp while the real players take aggro. They miss link attacks, and when they die, they're too far away for anyone to revive them. A fucking menace.
I could see them either dropping the damage some or having dodge cancel it.>>573648785Well yeah, that's a super minmaxed for dummy build. Even in practice it's going to do a ton.
>>573646943>CagStill trying to figure out how to work this out.
>>573650906I want to have fun with you guys too but I'm still unlocking Chaos+, and letting you guys oneshot it is unfun :(
>>573650672Seen plenty of them.It's funny because I haven't seen a single person for whom character encounter match at all, plenty of people will say "I see a crapload of X but never any Y" right next to someone who says "I see a crapload of Y but never any X"
>>573650946Skill issue on their part
>>573650946As a Charlotta player, I have had no issues with MOST Io players I have run into so far. But I keep getting other Charlottas that are retarded and make us look bad cause they're on the floor bleeding half the time trying to finisher spam AND somehow still maintain her Master Trait stacks (you can't, finisher spam was just shoving a square into a circle shaped hole and just floortanking through the hits).
ONEGAIBAHAMOOTO*ruins your perfect execution*
>Be interested in Fraux's Fate EP>"I hate people...everyone wants to either fuck me or is jealous of me! Why??">Dresses like a slut anyway?????????
>>573651672you wouldn't get it
>>573651672You expected a woman to make sense or be capable of introspection?
I quit after pbaha in the base game and now conflux behemoth is cooking my ass
How do people get 300k HP? I'm at around 210k and that's with the Defender weapon. My master trait is also at 30.
>>573646943Eustaceplaying a melee character i again after him i forgot how fucking cancerous bosses are that dont STOP FUCKING JUMPING ACROSS THE MAP
>>573651672>play japanese anime games where the girls are dressed sexy for you>have an incel melty anyways??????
How are you supposed to predict which side bubs gonna come flying from first after the portal attacks?If you see the AoE mark appear on the ground and you're in the middle of it you're already fucked. It's the one attack I keep eating without fail.
>>573651601FUCK
>>573651952>i forgot how fucking cancerous bosses are that dont STOP FUCKING JUMPING ACROSS THE MAPAnother reason to only play Charlotta. Bosses literally cannot escape you.
I must have caught some massive assburgers because I don't remember where to apply wrightstones and I can't find the option at the blacksmith or the knicknack shack
>>573651952This is my Io experience. And it's one thing to learn when bosses aren't jumping but I got really annoyed farming luci and having the 20 cutscenes interrupt my stargaze charging and I decided to try magi instead. Much more chill.
what do you farm for mspmastery rank takes msp in 6 digits
>>573652002Zero clue desu.eustace can fly across the room and I just guess as Io>>573652081Upgrade>Imbue
>>573652054i may pick her up, i never even tried her in base game so maybe its a good time to do so
>>573652176Her gameplay is super simple but I doubt that matters since you were playing ranged characters-- but it's also fun because bosses literally run away from you only to be chased by a flying, relentless beyblade that spends half the fight being literally Invulnerable due to her Y button parry and those lobbies where everyone else is getting smashed and bleeding on the floor, forced to watch you fly through the air and be invincible all the time and style on the boss is just pure dopamine for me.
Online Furrycane sure is an experience
>>573652768Had no issue during my run of Furrycane.
>Been struggling with MSP>Just to remember I actually have 60+ of ambrosias after in the middle of chaos+I feel like super bea now...
>>573652595What skills do you run her now with the master traits?
>>573652824People understandably not really being able to handle a bunch of his shit and getting vaporized into nothingness.To be fair I still have a hard time being able to tell what the absolute fuck is going on when Furrycane just sit in the middle of the arena and start flailing.
>>573651874Greater Aegis + Aegis stack multiplicatively instead of additively And one of the tier 3 mastery traits is +10k HP per blue or pink sigil
>>573651874I hit 600k with fraux the other day.Still got one shot by the light dragon.
Bea is very smart
I'm just about to collect Rolan's final journal and I think I'm getting close to the end of the base game campaign. I have two questions.1) Should I just jump right into Endless Ragnarok content immediately after? I don't know the core endgame loop at all, but I've heard that some of the new content gives certain drops that were originally highly desirable.2) What is the optimal time to spend all my character cards and recruit the roster? Is it once I reach 100 on my first character? Is it when I 100% my first character's mastery track? I know that leveling is probably very simple but I'm quite lazy and have come this far without using cards, so might as well go the distance. Is there a way I can make it so all of the characters I recruit are level 100 and already have their mastery tracks filled?
>>573652824Furycane/Id/Bubs where the big walls in my pubs while progressing.They just can't avoid tornadoes for shit
>>573653323>What is the optimal time to spend all my character cards and recruit the roster?If you're in Chaos++ characters join with Mastery Lv20 but don't wait that long just to play someone you're actually interested in
>>573653323The absolute most optimal time to recruit everyone is during Chaos II.They start with all their mastery nodes unlocked, 20 ranks in Mastery Traits and a fully uncapped defender.
>playing relink again since before sandals got released>having a relatively easy time clearing quests with people online>get access to the new bahamut versa, bubs and faasam>they start kicking my ass
>>573652959Uhh...Holy Ladder, Blade of Lumiel, Invincibility and the ATK buff one cause I don't need Shining Onslaught with the "Noble Stance is always enhanced" trait being on to prime it anymore and I can already gap close with my spin attack and there's simply nothing else worth taking. If you can't parry 50+% of the boss' attacks just swap the ATK buff for Onslaught so you can still give other teammates more damage via the DEF debuff at least.>>573653364>IdI can relate with that one. I did 2 runs of him so far and my team failed them both despite me never going down. I dread how bad it will be when I play more tomorrow.
>>573647253Fourfold does a ton of damage in godmightI kinda like the dragonform one. Perma stout heart and a chance to reset arcadia feels great.
Anyone got a cool Faux sigil build I can borrow? Currently on transcendence lvl 3 on her Stinger weapon.
My whorish wife
odds of another round of DLC characters?one Yool, please
Anything I should change here?
>>573654425You will get Uno
Farming behemoth for stout heart[/spoilers] summons.7QUP NHVV LMHB 4URDPass: grub
>>573654550yes. one (uno) (a single) ms yool
>>573654439Do you get anything for going over 100% crit rate?
>>573654679ONE (UNO) [HARVIN]
>>573654754no... I'll kill fuckerharahe won't survive my wrath
>>573654697Only with the crit weapon ascended
im still on main story are switch fags actually on endgame already
>>573654697The crit is on the weapon stone and i'll be swaping that at some point.
Quit RIGHT before Siete came out, was just in the middle of farming Gamma/Betas, so was around that level of mid/end game with Terminus weapons, so have a pretty built out Vase and Io.Wanted to pick up a new character, and deciding between Fediel/Fraux and Siete next. Mostly leaning towards Siete since Sarasa never made it in, and he was my next eternal. How does he play? Or should I build Fediel/Fraux first? OR just skip building another character entirely, and just get through the DLC with Io first.
>>573655334Conflux makes getting a character's basics done a lot faster
>>573646743Slot open again
I guess Crux and Insight are the way to go for Siete with Matery 2s?Unless Level 3 Essence gives a way to really crank out Infinito Creare I can't see it being worth getting past 1.
>>5736546562/4
the full auto is turned on and i will never do slimes again
Im new to the game, any reason why Ragnarok has been hyped up so much more than the base game? I didnt even know Relink had come out until recently
I blocked pugs for the first time because I keep getting matched with them and they keep dying to Furycane. I'm afraid Id is teaching me bad habits by not having to give a fuck about boss attacks./endblog
The common baby's first chaos advice seems to be "just use defender weapons and stack HP :^)"but even with that and every health-increasing seal equipped I don't have the health required to use spartan echo or the defender weapon's DMG Cap Ecruwhat am I missing?
Upgrading all the weapons for the AI party is already inflating my balls. I don't wanna, but I have to. Then I have to savescum sigil synthesis to make them new builds.
>>573646943Narmaaya.she's unga bunga as fuck and her masteries are op. i don't care if I wipe the team
>>573655917>why Ragnarok has been hyped up so muchBecause base game was good and a lot of people have been asking for more. We assumed the game was done for a few years and suddenly they announced that the expansion was coming out just in a few months.
>>573655986You need transcend lv 3 defender before it became better than terminusAlso you can switch your defender weapon skill
>>573655986Take the +15k HP Master Nodes.
>>573655917base game was very well-loved and many people thought it was going to be like a live service game and get lots and lots of post-launch support. it got a good amount for a while and then just nothing ever again until endless ragnarok which was announced very shortly before it actually came out, which is the best way to announce things. fuck announcing things like a year in advance that shit sucksI hope endless ragnarok doing very well convinces them to keep going with it
>>573655917for a good while people thought cygames fucking abandoned relink despite the game selling pretty well and everyone assumed their foray into console gaming would die with Relink and VS.turns out, they wanna support both games for as long as is viable
>>573655917Picrel is the reason why.
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>>573656525Vikala's pissFrom the tap
>>573656525Vikala should be added to relink
>>573657178Boring and gross for 5 whole years
I was thinking of picking this game to get her. How fun is it? Can I get her early?
>>573657294No fuck that give me VajraWe need more dogsWE NEED MORE DOGS I WANNA FUCK A DOG
>>573646743Heading off now, thanks for the runs guys got a lot done! It was fun.
>>573657372it is funyou can get her early if you want. she requires two recruitment vouchers while most characters require one, which is not that big a deal because you get so many recruitment vouchers that unless you want to get literally every single character you will have a surplus just by playing
Why does Siero insist on screwing me over whenever I try sigil synthesis like I won't savescum my sigils back?>>573651952I don't care if it hurts my overall DPS, I always bind a gap closing skill for melee characters.
>>573657492it doesn't hurt your overall dps, it hurts your barrold dps, which doesn't matter or exist
Concentration feels pretty shit Io bros ngl, the amount of setup you need in conjunction with how much bosses spazz about makes it feel like dummybait, I've found general skill spam to be better.
>CPU : 5600X>GPU : 5070ti>Just farming Mastery Points before Infinity questsIf I put the game on Auto and lowest resolution possible, will it be possible to gen some prompt at the same time?
Does the master traits make playing Danchou less aids?I love my danchou but I'd be lying if I said I didn't hate the art mechanic
>come back for ER>haven't played for like a year and don't remember anything>last time I played I got my main character to full build with terminus and lucilius sigils>my AI bros don't have lucilius sigils but still have terminus full (or mostly) awakened>start playing new story>get chaos>its not too bad>suddenly get to terminus IV and beyond>my nearly fully built character is now dog shit unusable>if I use the new weapons I do 0 damage>can't progress any further on mastery trait that is capped at 10>fights either die in 5 minutes but I game over if I don't play perfect because i die in one hit with my original build>or take 20 minutes doing 0 damage with the new build but at least I can not get one shot until I run out of potions and die to attritionwat do
>>573657584Absolutely true, but I guess Barrold DPS theoretically matters if you get a Vane with Rampart in your party and he decides to use it when the boss isn't mid trigger but still decides to hang around for the full duration.
>>573657475Thanks, I'm looking at it and it seems like you field a party of 4? I doubt I can fuck things up, but are there any newbie traps I should be aware of?
>>573657767Couple runs in the mini farm dungeon should bring you up to speed
>>573657372Really fun game. If you want to play it, now is the time.>>573657750It should greatly help Danchou's damage. I wished Danchou had a super state (Azur Hair) once you reach Arts 4-5 for some durations tho
>>573657808there's nothing you can fuck up besides deleting the wrong sigils, but that won't matter until endgame, and by then you'll be able to identify what's good and the game also gives you some guidance nowjust play it and have fun. fediel is a blast, probably my favorite character to play as
>>573657808I guess the only newbie trap is unlocking characters that you don't plan to use immediately early, since eventually they will start at level 60 instead of 1, saving you EXP and Mastery points.
>>573657887I'm fine with not being top dog in DPS, I just don't want to go back into the loops of>build up art>monster fuck off to the ass end of the universe>I lose art levels in a micro second
does Damage Dealt from conflux auras apply after cap or are they all useless dogshit
>>573657946>>573657949Perfect, thanks bros. Downloading now
>>573658012Even if you cared about being DPS MVP, you can always NTR the team's summon points for the damage burst and top score that way.
>>573646943Tweyen.>Hail to MultilockWish Piercing Gleam effect is permanent, its tiring when boss dissapears from arena and i either restart the buff from 0 or slotting peerless eye. Gonna try Two-Crown's Master and Clincher style today.
Please Beatopill me I want to play her but its like pulling teeth. I haven't had this little fun since I tried playing Katalina when I first started the gameI use all my skills and followup with power attack finisher. And after that I can't do anything but basic attack/combos. This character feels like absolute shit to play when she doesn't have a skill off cooldown to use, her basic combos are horrendous.I'm also forced to be in the yellow clock all the time because I just get knocked out of attacks if I'm not in it, and by the time I get the super clock mode that lets me go full offensive the boss either goes into bloodthirst the instant I press it or the battle is already over. Genuinely during link time is the only point where it feels like I'm actually playing a real non-joke character.Does she just not really work until I unlock all the later mastery traits? I also don't have her warpath if that's something she requires
>>573658258I was playing her at level 60 with a friend that was still doing Maniac quests and seeing the damage numbers fly off by spamming combo with Supplemental damage in devour causality was doing it for me.
Friends, does anyone know what quests are good for farming Azurite shards?
Charlotta is so degenerate lol
>>573658615Conflux, probably slimes still drop whole Azurites but I wasn't paying attention to the rewards so I could be making shit up
Ok on The World, I'm assuming you don't want to be near the death card when the timer finishes?
>>573658883Nier and Death can finish me if you know what I mean.
>>573658883IIRC it's arena wideYou gotta break it ASAP
>>573659124>>573658883Feels like it counts down the more hits you deal as well.If you're a Char/Eustace, maybe avoid that one?There's some other mechanic at play in the countdown at least
>>573646943>id (godmight mastery)>burst window has like 40 sec startup>but you go unkillable gorilla Y spammer with insaneo damage >real fun to extend with CA/LTjust beat conflux 5 and all the new dmg cap is awesome but i still cant get enough. a lot of fun until your dragonform runs out before you can go into godmight with all the bloodthirsting in chaos+
When will they make danchou actually cool?
>>573646943>Percival>Skill mastery rank 4 gives 2 reset skill cooldown for free>Basically spamming schlacht++ and skill entire fight
>>573659927>djeetanever, she isn't cool>grangran is already cool
>>573657404sorry bro, cygays are all catfags
The cooler Djeeta
what's the new easy way to get terminus weapons now?i'm trying out new characters and want to get their passive bonuses and i am not farming proto bahamut again after getting hundreds of clears in vanilla.
>>573660548You either kill Versa 10 times or Proto Bahamut twice per weapon
>>573660512>second playable dragon introduced as DLCimagine the seethe. imagine the rage. imagine the hate
>>573657404I need my cow on a bike
are we back?
>leveled my weapons to the max they can go right now, and still getting filtered by the latest quests>only way to advance my characters now is through MSP>only get MSP by playing solo (which takes forever because I'm getting filtered by the latest quests)>multiplayer is more fun and faster, but gives 0 MSPwhat the fuck were they thinkingIs there ANY early chaos build I can run that doesn't rely on MSP 10 and will let me beat conflux 4 in under 45 minutes per run so I can actually level the rest of my guys and start having fun?
>Need quick chargeOh boy pyet-a again
So Fediel is the new Sandal
>>573660952>but gives 0 MSPThat's wrong and also sell summonsOr go kill slimes a few timesIf your weapons are upgraded and you're still dying you're probably doing something retarded though
>>573660952Do revenge of the Ooze, 70k every run
>>573661102I upgraded my weapon to +3, the highest it will let me right nowIf I try it on the dummy with the new damage cap setting. The new weapon makes me do 20%-30% of damage cap. My terminus one is alwys over 100%% but I die in one hitAnd I know it gives 0 MSP because every time I do a quest I save and do transmarvel/overmastery stuff with savescum since a quest resets the RNG on those. But each time I go to overmastery I have 5500 MSP still even after 3 quests its not going up.>>573661186I don't have that yet
>>573661078Nah. Sandal is still the new Sandal.
>>573660530i wish this was a costume or even modded
>>573662094That'll send the burgers on a ree-spree, anon, we can't have that
Wait, you can do that?
>>573662757OH MY FUCKING GOD YOU CAN
Is it confirmed there is no bullshit like war elemental or supplementary damage that is awful to farm like base game launch? I want to plan out my sigil loadouts.
>>573663027Summons are the equivalent in this game.You'll be spending tens of hours farming for the perfect summon in each slot, if you're the type anyway.
>>573663027only thing that ive found that sucks is shit like>war elemental>warpathsand a couple other sigils cant be fused via synthesis so you'll have a few unoptimal 2slots, war elementals are common enough but i savescummed transmarvels for a while and only got ONE 2slot warpath for my character in that time
How many transmarvels should I build up before I start savescumming?
>>573664187100 I'd wager
>side quest>is actually a main questwhat do they mean by this
>>573664517thank you
>load up my old relink nopan mods>lighting/textures brokenuh... is there an easy way to fix this myself?
>>573663761you have to get good berserker/spartan echos too
>>573651672How many IRL women do you know? Many of them act like this.One time a girl I knew came up to me at a party while wearing an outfit showing off her tits, midriff, wearing fishnet thighhighs etc, and asked me if I thought she looked like a slut because someone had told her she looked like a slut and it upset her. She later went on to act like a slut. She's currently single and says she hates guys because they just want to fuck her.
>>573646943Fraux. Shes really fun and satisfy to play but the focus on normal combos when half the bosses run around can be annoying. Im on the very end of Infinity and even with near perfect play you can really tell some of the old high damage chars are still king. Aka char/sand. Also i think narmaya might be the highest damage char in the game now since before her skills were sorta hard to cap but now that everyone basically caps at all times shes a god. Do these devs even test this game sometimes? lol
Siero in charge of not fucking me dry in the ass.
When does a transcended acension weapon start to outpace a fully upgraded defender weapon?
>>573665318Before you can get the materials to fully upgrade a defender weaponMain problem with the Ascension weapon is that the plain Atk skill is fucking useless but the other stuff on it is alright
>>573646943Magi. She's alright, a bit simpler than I was hoping for
>>573665382I'm talking the transcend part.So far the ascension weapon is at stage 4 of transcending while the defender is fully transcended.
>>573665631Just look at the damage cap %'s on the weapons skills, whichever one is higher for you right now is better for damage.
>>573665631The collection masteries are huge, way bigger upgrade than actual wielding the weapon
>>573665838Well 260 vs 350 makes the choice obvious then?Would have to redo my setup a bit but the hp loss isn't exactly a killer given everything kinda one taps you later anyway even at 600k hp.
>>573657597I imagine concentration gets you the best target dummy dps but I don't think it feels good so I'm gonna try the fire+ice one after i try some melees (bea/siete). That's how I played base game anyways.
Any good quest to farm supplementary damage V+ or is it just up in the whims of Siero?I'm gonna need tons of them
>>573665962>>573665838>swap to the level 4 asc weapon>my 140% overcap damage now deals 170-190%>with basic attacks and no buffs upWell time to start dropping attack ups in favor of more cap ups and supp sources then.
>>573646943Io's level of gameplay but harder to track. The finisher is cluncky as hell. Several times Maglie did a 180 at the start, the cursor is jumpy and isn't very responsible, and the low camera angle isn't helpful either.The payoff is dakka strong-attack during link-time. And Caduceus, auto-helping the downed allies.Masteries are like whatever. God a shielding Caduceus and everything else put in dps.
Should I aim for echos or cap up? And does spartan echo stack with berserker echos?
hexachromatic heirarch was fucking sick as hellis Damage Dealt the good one? I thought it was Enhanced Damage that broke the capwhy would these EX rank traits even bother increasing DMG Dealt
>>573666726Well that answers that holy fuck
>>573666726>And does spartan echo stack with berserker echos?Yes.>Should I aim for echos or cap up?Right now I feel gated by caps, and echoes are part of a solution for me, so I've put some instead of raw attack.
I defeated Bubz without levelling any resonance because I totally forgot its existence...
>>573666726It's easy to get to Spartan Echo's requirements now so aim for both of them.
>>573667167what the hell is resonance
>>573667167i was an absolute retard and beat up to the new bahamut with just terminus and 4 of the new attack buffs. Often times it was obvious we all were and sometimes that one guy was like "let me upgrade this hp weapon that i always thuoght was shit.
>>573666726Damage Cap > any of the new Celestial sigils you wanna use > 1 copy of each EchoI thinkI'm only not using Berserker Echo right now cause I only have it with dogshit secondary skills and moving anything around seems to make my build worse currently.You can get plain Supplementary Damage on wrightstones and you can get a lot of Attack or Skill damage cap up on summons.
>>573667167>fighting bubs>forgot its existence>bubs>existenceHOLY KINO!
playfab crack doko?
>>573667010>>573667319>>573667436Good to know then.For now I'll use this instead of my defender setup and try to get more upgrades for this.
>>573652150you trade ambrosia from siero
>new resonance nodes unlocked>no new conflux unlocked when I already hideously overpowered conflux 5 and needed to hideously overpower conflux 5 to beat the boss that unlocked more resonance nodes???
>>573666415magi is pretty chill for me after the learning curve, what finisher do you mean? blade dance IV or the XXXY combo? i havent had problems aiming her stuff, XXXY is the only 'finicky' one because you want to let it circle around instead of stopping it on a 180
anybody using fediel or fraux for Ai?
During the world fight It's kind of off how "generic" most of his lines during the fight are, considering how much he likes to individually burn each evoker, makes it feel like Fraux was decided as the evoker way later in the dev cycle, I say this only because I'm huffing maximum copium in hoping that Nier gets in as DLC later on.
>>573668121XXXY one, yes. Sometimes the cursor jumps into a random place, and it's hard to track some human-sized bosses with the low angle of view.
>>573668736On smaller bosses I stay close and just use the stationary tornado more, easier than trying to do donuts on them with the swords when you're a mile away and can't see shit
>>573668736yeah, i also find her XXXY pretty rough.at least the XY just pops once it touches an enemy and the XXY is easy to see.But the XXXY is complete bullshit to track. And from what i understand i want it to pop from touching an enemy enough instead of just letting go since it seems to do a powered up version in that case?
>>573668885>And from what i understand i want it to pop from touching an enemy enough instead of just letting go since it seems to do a powered up version in that case?Yea, it powers up from touching the the enemy and pops automatically after enough molesting. On dragons and other big guys the hitbox is big enough, so you can just graze it to power up, but the human-sized bosses need more accurate tracking. Doesn't help the fact that these dudes enjoy teleporting around.
So for a player at base game endgame, is the grinding basically just ascending weapons and getting more masteries?
>>573669521Yeah, plus grinding for the must have sigils
>>573669521You kill to upgrade to kill harder, yes. And don't forget the sigils.
too easy
SIERO DOESN'T GIVE ME THE SIGILS I NEEDTHE GAME DOESN'T GIVE ME THE SIGILS I NEEDTHE QUEST DOESN'T DROP THE SIGILS I NEEDAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>make it to new Faa>Opener is Paradise Lost>kek this'll be easy>The End dps check and swords spawnT-thanks, Faa san...
>>573670195Doing The World was rough, seeing Versa, Luci, and another fight right after made me cringe.
It sucks the Belial isn't in the game, but I understand it takes time to animate a sex scene with each character...
>>573670679
They should add Yuel's feet to the game
>>573670679Why wouldn't they add him anyway? He's a raid in the gacha so it doesn't really make sense that he wouldn't be a boss here especially since he's so popularBut I don't mind the lineup we have here especially with The World so it's all good I guess
What do I do if I want to build a new character in ragnarok? Is everything through conflux now?
Holy fucking shit perciivals molten erk tree fucking NUKESI am just running the 2 buffs, wheel and nuke now and he is destroying everything. MVP every match too.Sure its a bit of a change to have to micro manage so much but it does so much damage i wonder if they will nerf it.
>>573671026Do anything. Though conflux would be the best idea as you are earning stuff and not burdening others by being low skill.
>>573669870I dont even have any sigil slots able to slot them.WTF is this shit.Maybe i should dump the lucy sigils though, that will give me 1 slot.Everything else is pretty much filled with utility.I do have these on my summons though, to varying levels.
Which one of you is this
>>573671974Sniete...>brown woman fucking danchouWhat the fuck kind of a title is that?
>>573670936I imagine he overlaps to hard with Luci in terms of how they'd structure the fight, being another human primal fight as well as storywise it makes more sense to feature bosses that aren't in the same story arc to give variety, Part of me hopes we'll get post launch DLC that gives us a Grande Order (Zoi) boss fight, her fight in RPG versus was pretty fun and it'd be nice to hear a new rendition of the latest theme they gave.
Yep, she's definitely getting nerfed. The clear time is worse though since everyone's too busy throwing balls instead of CBA-ing
>>573664635where is clarisse bros...
>>573672597Her tits are amazing
>>573672563I remember when her higher difficulty raid came out, that theme is so good. The voice lines are just fantastic in the original raid too. It's unfortunate they didn't include her, I feel like she's bigger than The World at the very least. Since they gave us Lucilius out of nowhere with the base game, maybe they will give us Zooey the same way.
>>573672597>she's definitely getting nerfedin like one or two months, they are fucking slow with updates
Any Bea players? what skills do you equip?
Anyone wanna do a slime lobby i need MSP....
>>573673817Host it
Been enjoying learning Bea after going Io mode all base game. Nothing can kill me. AND her unique sigils suck ass so I have a whole 1-2 slots for anything else. Hell yeah
Lobby is up, join if you wanna grind MSPHRL4 WK3F JWB1 WF9NPass: Slimes
what's the best use for raffaello coins?kinda overcapping on them.
>>573674292SILVER CENTRUMSALL OF THEM
>>5736742032/4
>>573674292Fortitude Crystal (L)
I just unlocked Chaos++ with AIs
You aren't forgetting to commend all at the end of every run, right guys?
>>573674904Yes I do, I even spam it when I'm doing with AI as a habit
>>573674904I forgot how to commend
>>573674904I only commend the MVP
>>573650946>They miss link attacksA lot of Maglielle I've played with is guilty of this too those potato fuckers
>>573674338Not at all. Cemtrums and only centrums.Base game it was ex refinium.Forty crystals you get in abundance just opening chests in the hubs or can do quests for them and they even nerfed the amount you need to level weapons.
>using SBA's quest time pauser to provide 3 extra sec for slimingOh yeah now this is gaming
>>573650946Its like fucking MMO ranged dps players. That for some reason think they get a damage buff the further away they stand from the enemy or their team mates. When in actuality they can stand just outside of the boss' attack range and still do full damage while benefiting from buffs and support.
>100% cut>still take damage with substituteoh yeah, substitute totally ignores your own mitigation and uses your party members' defenses instead
>primal bahamutSo I'm just told to fuck off for not playing a ranged character now? He spends 80% of the fight out of reach.
>>573677584Use the cannons lil nigga. Or wait for him to come over, who gives a shit
can they have a couple more mastery levels if i hold off on recruiting them or is this as high as they go?though i guess worrying about a couple of MSP for 2 characters is dumb when i already recruited everyone else way before that.
>>573677584if you mean proto baha, he flies out of reach of ranged characters too. you're supposed to use the cannons when he flies away and then when he comes close, you need to wait just before he flies away and stunlock him with an sba chain, which can burst him enough to skip some more flying phases
>>573678263Run the Chaos+ slime mission a couple of times and you'll be drowning in MSP
>>573678263They can start at 20 if you get them at chaos++
>>573678328Have you fought the ragnarock version? He's a lot more aggressive and active to the point where using the cannons is almost a trap.
Someone not only remembered percival is in the game but ran away with MVP. The true lord.
>>573678386i just reached ++. how deep into it?>>573678337yeah, i guess it's really dumb too worry about since you get a boatload from that. i should see if i have some MSP sigils lying around too. Unless you held off on all recruits until this point. then i guess it would save you a substantial amount of MSP.
>>573678725I don't remember desu.Somewhere before you get fediel I guess?My fediel came at 20 and when I grabbed Vase/Bea they did as well
>>573666726>>573666961>>573667436Maybe I should try getting rid of Steel Nerves+Drain and get an Echo slotted in.
>>573646387Help I can't stop looking at Io's massive chest at the start and end of every missionWhy is it so big it's very distracting
>>573679023Drain is honestly pretty bad.
any vane bros here? i used to main him for the most of the OG then moved to ID right now but maintaining godmight is tad difficult and i think vane's bubble can be a giga carry clutch for retards online
>>573679115The bubble cannot carry when retard io mains never get in it.
>>573679115if you wanna carry people, support path cagliostro is the way to go, he has fullscreen rez and his heal now just gives shields instead so you can keep spamming it off cooldown to stack more effective max hp on people
does Relink have a demo bypass or creamapi situation like Granblue VS? I heard they use some shitty low level drm called playfab or something
>>573679431you can creamapi it no issue
>>573679274>>573679353i don't want to carry people like that i'd want to be more of a frontline option.Drain turbine gallanza worked well but he was boring
What general use endgame sigils are good to synthesize with each other and can be used across multiple characters? I'm thinking>celestial lumen+terra>spartan+berserker echo>supp+warpathAre these ok? Is tyranny still used in endgame for ascended terminus?
>>573679274I'd rather not get in the bubble.I've been hit loads since the dlc started because the vane gets shunted away
>>573679548there's celestial something that removes max hp for max dmg cap
>>573679496i don't know what a frontline option is because there is no frontline. people die to bigass aoes that cover the entire screen, it's not like you can bodyblock hits. so i don't know if you just want to ungabunga or you actually want to help people survive because it seems like you're not interested in the latter. you could try a substitute build but it's liable to get you killed if the retards are especially retarded
>>573679548Yes
>>573679431Ragnarok is the thing with the demo, cygames wisened up a bit to the pirating issue in Versus so we can't have fun anymore
>>573679548builds have far higher attack than cap currently so no one uses attack up sigils unless their character requires like quick charge or something
>>573679653fuck it i'll just ball vane is based anyways
>>573679628Yeah that's terra, I see it used with lumen a lot and was wondering if I should just slap them together for ease of gearing a bunch of chars.>>573679708Yeah like this. Do you also use both echoes?>>573679779So I guess no one uses tyranny anymore?Also is it just me or are people slowly getting rid of lucilius sigils? I guess you don't need the shield that much anymore in new endgame.
>>573679548>>spartan+berserker echo>>warpath+anythingYou can synthesize them? Is it a postgame thing?
>>573679941Can't use the echoes for sigil synthesis bro. Not sure if both can even roll naturally on the same sigil
>>573679941yeah no one uses tyranny anymore. well i mean you can check in the training dummy now if you are hitting caps but you probably areluci sigils are still good but you don't fill your build with them anymore. afaik the meta pick seems to be only 1 gamma, and then maybe 1 alpha if your character is a massive normal attack spammer. also a 50k shield is nothing when bosses can hit for 170k++ now and support characters like cagliostro can regularly shit out 99k shields to everyone
>>573680114>170kI wish they still did that. I'm getting one tapped at 500k... You need that one def up at full hp to tank hits.
Is anyone still using GBFR logs? I can't get it to work anymore. Already tried downgrading from 1.0.8 to 1.0.7.I want to know how I compare to other Tweyens.
>>573680292Look in Nexusmods.
>>573680034>>573680064Just checked and you still can't. Fuck this gay game.
>>573681096Now they drop like candyPlay the game, bro
Am I reading this correctly?Terminus > Transcend defender > Transcend ancension >>>> 100 hours of grind > Transcend Terminus?
>wanna try the demo>doesnt recognize my controller because im on linuxfucking
I'm a new player.What's the "damage cap" and when can I expect to hit it?
>>573680527Thanks, found a 1.8.3 that actually works.
>>573681197Post your double echo sigils
since everyone can now perfect parry in animation which sigils are there to boost perfect parry window or grant some bonuses due to that?
>>573681409they added a setting in the training dummy where you can see it. now the damage on the dummy can be expressed as a percentage of your damage cap, if you see 80%, that means your attack power is only strong enough to hit 80% of your damage cap, if you see 200%, that means your attack power is double what your damage cap allows you to hit
>>573682229no but what is the damage cap? does it mean that you cant do more than x dmg in a single move or something? what's the limit?
>>573681932there is precise wrath which gives you sba and skill cooldown for perfect guarding, but otherwise i don't think there's anything else. improved guard does nothing for perfect guarding, it only increases your guard break threshold
>>573682336>does it mean that you cant do more than x dmg in a single move or somethingyes>what's the limitEvery move has their own limit, even for normal damage each character has their own limit as well
>>573682336every single instance of damage has a cap where you can't do more damage than that as a baselinethe cap is different for every single move and even particular hits within a single move. by the way, every hit also has its own motion value, so for example there can be an attack that has very high motion value but very low cap (relink was full of these when the game first came out leading to some very underwhelming characters)for example, ferry's damage caps look like this
>>573682454>>573682558so no matter how much i optimize i will just get raped by the damage cap?how retarded is that?!at least in games like warframe the dmg cap is satisfying because it's literally the highest possible number the computer can count.this is ridiculous...
>>573682771i don't see how it's any differentin the endgame your build is just full of traits that increase your damage cap, which i don't find any different from having builds that just increase your damage in a different game. i mean, really, what's the difference? you equip a buff and number goes up. it's just that in relink you only equip buffs that increase your damage cap
I don't know if it was here or /v/ but to the anon who said block red dodge yellow Thanks!Just got infinite Beelzebub down. Only Hexa left.
>>573647043>The concentration mastery is crack.What skill should I free up for concen?
>>573684021Grats anon, I'm still in the Infinite Bubs mines. Do you have any other advice?
>>573684210I guess try to stay in the center during his final phase? I don't know. We were constantly getting ringed out by his bullshit since there's always only one small safe space whenever he does that forced ring out.
I'm still at Chaos+ and the necessary PWR requirements are gradually becoming overwhelming, and I don't see any upgrades on the horizon apart from the mastery stuff (i'm sitting at 27k with Chaos+ req at 28k). How the fuck do people increase this shit? Also should I be using stinger weapon and transcend them?
>>573684459can't you just use firm stance sigils
why the hell bubs fight is so hype how the fuck they managed to turn gb fights into this much hype fiesta
>>573684525Most people use transcended defender weapon and pump their HP to more than 100k HP
>>573684593That should work yeah. I'm stubborn though and I refuse to change my build.
>>573682771Because warframe is a low skill game that caters to low skill playersIt's a power fantasy for players that want to press one button and delete rooms
>>573684165I was using Fire/Mystic/Flowery/Conc
they should release the new characters. I want MC’a grandmother
>>573682558>340%>360%>480%>619%What the fuck were they thinking with ferry? Wanted to use her before but heard she was so ass because of this.
>>573685507her petless path is very strong. the support one looks mid. i saw a summon path ferry showcase doing about 70% of the petless path damage, which doesn't seem TOO bad considering how easy it is to play
>the slime quest gives a supp v+ with increased MSP subtraitthey knew
character lineup is pretty sad
>>573685952not even DAO, who has been a favorite since RoB
>>573678845it is exactly when you finish fediel's questline and get her crewmate card
>>573682558where do you get this, and do you have it for other charas?
>>573685665>they knewThat people use the MSP farming level for MSP farming? No way?
>>573686180fuck are you my brother from another mother i've been holding out on an olivia appearance outside of the gacha for so long
imagine if this had been a life service game from the get go. all of the cool characters we could have gottencykagames fumbled hard
>>573686460Kill yourself
>>573686328from some random ass discord and no, i don't
>>573686447DAO scratches all of my of my itches and Maya Sakamoto being the VA is the cherry on top
>>573679115The bubble can help on some fights, but idiots are gonna idiot no matter what you do.If you want to brute force people through content, there are better options. If you want to make sure you're never the one making the critical bar go down though?Honestly the HP level here is pretty overkill, I need to farm that HP down for more damage cap sigil and finish off my ascension transcend, but thats also gonna entail looking into those multi sigil type caps more too.
>>573686529no
How do I healPot are insufficient
>>573686963DrainStart slotting that on all your builds.
>>573687124I put 1 drain and obviously it's not enoughI'm also a retard who keep trying to dodge something I can easily dodge and fail
why do folkes hate playing padjeeta? there's literally one combo that gets you to Arts IV. All you have to do then is to rage+armor break+decimate+Reginleiv
>>573686789unfathomably basedwhy no berserker echo though
>>573687229nobody like the art system please understand Apparently nobody like the full charge as well
>>573687124Is it still vapped at 500? Because if yes, lol lmao
>>573687229not very flashy. has no clearly defined personality in their fighting style. honestly they should have just taken one of the row 4 or 5 classes and put that on the mc instead
>>573686789btw what mastery trait you're running?
2026 and cyganes still wont let you autofarm slimes
>>573687404Let's just say I have it equipped on my Io.
>>573687320Io practically does the same thing with Stargaze V and somehow nobody hates her
>>573687404no it isnt and there are additional sigils raising drain cap even further, i heal like 4-5k per hit on my Id
What kind of gear (and how much HP) am I looking to have entering Chaos+? I'm still rocking the Terminus weapon but I'm getting one shot by pretty much everything here.
>>573687738you can drop stargaze v from across the map, it's a lot comfier
>>573687294No space at the moment. Part of the "fun" ahead of me is trying to work that in too. I've got some fusion nonsense on top of needing to go for a stout heart summon.>>573687507Beatdown. It's disgustingly broken.
>>573687867transcended defender weapon at +2 and fatebreaker as one of your sigils
How i play Fediel?Ascension or Terminus weapon?
>>573687867you really should have 70 - 100k++ by now. you should have swapped off terminus to defender ages ago
>>573687936Where do you get fatebreaker?
>>573688271Literally the first quest of the expansion
I am dogshit at this game and keep getting 1 shotted
>>573688446Build more HP.
i really think too much shit in this game is FA-ableit shouldve strictly been early or mid game farms and only after youve severely outleveled them
>>573687936>>573687995Fair enough. Even though I was also dying a lot in the Chaos stages, I had enough autolife charges and attack power to get by.
>>573688446have you tried pressing block yet
I bought the game at launch but never had time to play it until now. Should I play it fresh or get the expansion first? Is it the type that adds content to the main game or is it a direct continuation? I know very little other than it’s the offline version of the gacha game
>play ER>wtf I keep on dying!?> vigor is at 10 pointsER players
>>573689762it's a direct continuation with all the rebalances that you'd probably waste time starting from scratch without the expansion
>>573679115Took me longer than I care to admit that the answer to my issues with Vane (not being able to trade with bosses and not contributing enough damage) could be solved by adding 3 Drain sigils into my build and then trading some excessive defense options for more damage cap.
Zeta's loop tree feels really good. Being able to immediately start looping again after arvess hammer is a godsend.
playing fraux is suffering..
>>573679708Was this from a transmarvel?
>>573646943siegfriedhe wasn't playtested enough imo, but plenty of anons have already bitched about him here and on /v/>mastery 1 requires perfect play to build/keep stacks, and it takes ages to build up to 7 stacks (outside of linktime).>mastery 2 requires perfect play to build stacks, and it still takes a decent amount of time to build up to 5 stacks (outside of linktime). Stacks can also expire if you aren't weaving perfect executions during fight downtime>mastery 3 requires your party to get hit while you're substituting them to build stacks, or to slowly build stacks with link attacks1/2 are too similar to each other and change almost nothing about his core playstyle while making him more annoying to play as. >losing stacks is far too easy, sometimes you'll lose one if you dodge cancel a combo or don't use a lunge offset at the right time (despite your perfect combo continuing just fine)>doubles down on sieg's weaknesses of having most of his damage behind a large windup and fast-moving/attacking bosses making him have to cancel combos to avoid dying. Infinity Beelzebub/Lucilius were the worst with thisNone of the other stacking characters are as punishing from what I've seen when looking at other characters, and I expect it'll get patched because the payoff for hitting max stacks does not feel worthwhile3 is pretty fun, but it should let you get stacks from successful parries because his parry skill feels like it needed a bit more. being able to get a perfect execution off of a successful parry was great and it felt like it should have been a core feature of his kitI stayed with him until the end of the game and fully transcended his terminus since I felt stubborn, but I'm likely going to set him as npc dps once I get my next character built up
>>573689762The DLC adds a couple new scenes at the start, so that's neat. Also you'd be able to play as Beatrix and Eustace and make a full society party with Beato, Zeta, Eustace and JC Denton.Ilsa when?
>>573687958Just go into your claw attack and attack once and use your orb finisher.
>>573690445Sigil Synthesis
>>573690261drain is crazy in ER ngl
>>573690445transmarvel doesn't do cursed combinations
is there any option to farm azurites easily later or i'll have to farm shitty bosses for upgrades?
>>573690917Bosses from Chaos onwards drop Azurite shards.
>>573686789tfw no Hero's Awakening nor Warpath+Siero, please give me the Vane sigils, I don't play Danchou, I don't need more Fearless+.
Can you play with a friend and 2 CPUs? Whose CPU builds does the game use if it's possible?
>>573691605You can. The host's. And you can get a support unit from other people.
>>573665878Wait, collection masteries apply even without equipping that weapon?
>>573691717Yes
>>573691717yes i hope you've been collecting and upgrading your entire catalog, there are some big boosts in there
Anyone know which missions drop Great Aegis sigils?
>>573691749>>573691818AND THEY NEVER TELL US THIS??? I mean I collected it all anyway for my girl but shit I didn't know that was even happening.>>573666135You unequip Supp Damage and equip Spartan and Berserker Echoes. Supp Damage is obsolete now.
>>57369181830% crit rate on the transcended stinger weapons masteries is crazy, never need to slot in crit rate ever again, unless you're using the Stinger weapons themselves I guess.
>>573691928i am 90% they tell you this in the tutorial where they teach you about weapon masteries
well well well
>>573692014Did they only do this after Endless Ragnarok or did I simply forget/not read it cause it was there since 1.0?
>>573689982You can't blame people for undervaluing stats in fromsoft games because it's a game about breakpoints and no casual "I wanna play hard games to suffer" fag would ever talk about math
>>573692082it's been a thing since the base game
>>573691928>supp is obsoleteYou don't even know upgrading stuff gets you passive buffs, why should I listen to you?
doesn't support dmg stack with each other?
can someone help me? when i do infinity the world, when he goes to phase 2, the camera stopped working and moves in slow motion. should i reinstall?
>>573691928Supp stacks with Spartan and Berserker what the fuck are you talking about
>>573692157Cause I'm autistic and paid SPECIAL ATTENTION to the Sigils. And at this point I have seen people say for the past 2-3 threads that Supp DMG is obsolete now due to the 2 echo sigils and cause you need space for all the new cap sigils anyway.>>573692136Well shit. I wasn't losing out anyway cause I was collecting all Charlotta's stuff regardless so no harm done I guess.
>>573691928>>573692157I think Supplemental is an additional damage instance worth 100% of the damage that triggered it.If this shit works like the gacha's spaghetti of damage effects and calculations, you should be able to trigger supplemental damage of the echoes, but I haven't tried it yet.
>>573692379looks like you'll have another one of that, HOLY SHIT THIS GAME DIDN'T TELL ME shocked moment
>>573692334>>573692379there's like a dozen new DMG cap sigils and the new Transcended weapons give you like 10k+ ATK.which means you're overcapping (like 250-300+%) without even trying if you don't put any of them on. And we ain't getting any new sigil slots so at this point it's more efficient to just get the 2 echo sigils, free up a space by dropping the 3rd Supp Damage you usually have on and get more DMG Cap or else you're only using a mere fraction of your actual damage.
Help I'm surroundedBubz got SBA locked for so long, Fraux's SBA animations being so fucking long helped a lot
How do you play fraux
>>573692062Is it better to do it with randoms or Ai right now?
>>573692867Randoms because you need like 30mil MSP to raise one character to Master Level 50 5 Star
>>573692867better with AI if you're abusing Fediel
>>573692741if you wanna play braindead just do xyyyyyyyyyy until you fill the bar and press 3 skills, if one bar is a lot lower than the other, just press x a couple of times in it before going on your y spamthere's some nuance to her combos like using delayed y inputs to forcibly swap to another stance midcombo, but it doesn't really matter if you just wanna unga
TICK TOCK FEDIELS THE NERF HAMMER IS COMING
>>573690260>>573690558Okay, I’ll grab the DLC first then. I’m looking forward to flatly getting to this game or looks great
>>573692724Thats a long of SBA chain stun locking cheesing
>maggie mogs me in honors i shall kill myuself
>>573693094How about her skills? any good one?
>>573693104I'll just use her as an AI bot if that happens. Nothing to worry about.
>>573693104Good luck, ill be done with the game way before then
anyone wants to do chaos++ bubs and some other stages? its too hard to do in pubs when i'm playing buffslutpw 12321
>>573687229Which combo? and is it worth using/charging Power Raise?
>>573693828and where's the id...I'm still in the middle of chaos+++, can I join?
>>573693364all paths should take opportunity knocks, gapcloser is very important when bosses jump around everywherepower plant is your best nuke, this is the one you'll be using for your 1 free skill if you are on the crux path. if you are using insight, dead lands also becomes an option as it also gives a decent chunk of gauge. other than that, i usually see people using all fall down and indom
>>573693828Uh Lobby ID?
Is Tweyen good?And which characters would be good for ai party.
>>573694135yescag, zeta, eugen?
>>573693943fug i forgot too many things ID 4L76 W7FL XQQ8 Q4AFpw 12321
>>573694135siegfried is the best ai companion for damage
>>573694243(me)3/4
normal dmg cap from summon works for both x and y attacks right?
>>573694656Considering there's no alternate classification for Y attacks in Overmastery Bonuses, I imagine it does.
>>573694656yes
>>573647459I'm trying to configure an action set in steam with turbo mode for one button, but how the fuck do I swap between action sets? Because I still need the default for when I'm playing Io.
why does this one exist it has to be turbo bait (or it works with sigils from weapon?)
>>573695721you have space for 2 stun power ultra late gamealso works with critical hit rate sigil if you're still using it
Never played gbf but does this game have breeding
>>573694243GGs, that was fastmagi, stronk
thanks for the carry bwos that bubs took like 7 pub rooms and it was all wipe
>>573695458Export it to a New Personal Save and you'll find it in Your Layouts.Click on a layout and press X on Xbox to apply.
>>573695721i've slammed all four on my weapon and i feel my damage went through the roof, i think it works with whetstone sigils
>>573696469which one are you using, stun and crit?
>someone in pub using rackam build that spams suicide to trigger celestial nyx.kek.
>>573696469I tested with the HP one and the sigil from wrightstone doesn't count
relink will forever be based for writing the erune lad out of fediel's characterwe hate bitter 40something single female korean writers here
>>573696584>>573696943i've used ascendancy transcend and all four basic sigils on weapon
>>573697376qrd?
>>573696783>RAKKAMUUU
>>573696035The biggest scam they ever pulled was saying that you can't breed between different skydweller races but you can breed with dragons.Regardless, Io is human anyway.
>>573697376Fediel is hot but i can never like her because of that entire fiasco
>>573697376Idg why you'd find it that repulsive, it was pretty clear how her story would go after her intro and initial fate.
>>573697376it's a shame they didn't write rios out of fraux's fate
Can you see your teammate summon when you're playing with co-op?I feel like I'm the only one using this function
both of these feels actually dogshit for Fediel.Does she only wants to use Warpath?
>>573697376Relink is just the better timeline, Orologia agreed don't bother them about it
>>573697931>>573697376What was the fiasco?
i've fucking forgot how to play
>>573697376I legit forgot about him
I should have trade this when I grind the WE+...
>>573698407Depends on your build
game really expects me to GIVE A FUCK about angelslop and I am exhausted of itthe only cool angel is bubs
>>573699713I am underdevelopped as fuck with fedielI seen the balls spam and i don't get how it's even doneBut i just cleared conflux lv5 with the solo bubs fight and now i am just starting building fediel
>>573695721it's easy to get up to 3 with extra sigils of HP and stuns
>>573698531Theres a trap (tranny?) Erune thats relative in Fediel's fate episodes that no one likes. >>573699026 And when fediel got her swimsuit alt this uncap art was essentially bait because in her FE she goes on a pretend date with you only to drop you later the moment Micah shows up and gives him a ring
>>573699719sorry i want to have to sex with female angels
>>573697881Meanwhile Babu just straight up says she can fix that for you if needed.
>>573700308I momentarily forgot about magus being very sexual when I posted that but she's not cool and neither is raziel
by chaos++ i should run terra,lumen fatebreaker and max dmg cap right?
>>573700630yeah that's the point female angels don't need to be cool for me to give a fuck, they just need to be hot
>>573699719I want a minigun angel.
hehe... more like... heheheh.... more like.......more like fartbreaker.....hehehehehe.....
>>573701048holy shit you went there haha
DE ARIMASU
ONEGAIBAHAMOOTO
I haven't unlocked rank 3 perks yet, are you able to different rank 2 perks with rank 3 perks? Like Insight perk 2, Essence perk 3?
>>573701858nopeall 3 tier 1s, 1 tier 2, and the same trait's tier 3. I think it kind of sucks you can't do a tier 2 from one trait and a tier 3 from another but oh well
How do you change the super SBA thing where Lyria summons Bahamut? I've seen it be the really big rock robot thing.
>>5737020701st is always baha, 2nd is excavalion, the 3rd is omega baha.
>>573702070it goes bahamut -> excavallion -> bahamut (green) in progression and gets stronger each timethere's no changing it and there's no disabling it either, for some horrible reason. it could just play a voice line and drop a nuke like the chain burst does, but noooo, you MUST get your perfect execution cucked I HATE it shut UP lyria SHUT UP I HATE CUT-INS I HATE CUT-INS
>>573702296i wish the cutscene wasn't 30fps. what year are we in
do we know if we'll get any updates for relink like for the base game?also enlisted characters are only for quests i cant take that fourth to the conflux?
I love... Faith in Dragonform Id...
>>573703290unironically worst go for godmight like a CHAD
bring me the man who invented silver centrumsI will KILL him I will WRING HIS NECK he will DIE
>>573703474What's the problem?
>>573703181can't take enlisted chars into conflux, you have to build out the team yourself
>>573703474centrums are piss easy to farm what
>>573703963Only if you rushed past Chaos++ and just hyper focus 1 character aloneIf you are taking your time and want to build up multiple people it's a pain in the ass
>>573703420I tried it for a bit and constant Slows from Arcadia and big damage from the Scourge laser seems to make up for any lost damage. You also free up 2 sigil slots because you don't need Awakening+Warpath as a single Ragnarok Form could probably last you until the end of the quest.The weakness is that he needs to rely on Never Enough for healing because of no innate Drain on his normals.
Fellas, just looked hit mastery trait 2 for Io, and staying in this tiny circle seems like absolute ass. I do NOT want to do it, and skill spam sounds mediocre, and flower seven gambles sound kinda boring, but better than standing in one spot with big burst every 30 seconds or so.Might be a mistake but I have a backup Vase to use, how are his mastery traits and should I go the ascended HP stacking build on him with less is more as well?
So this runs at 30fps in switch 2?Thinking of getting on console now that mods are dead
>999000 mastery points isn't enough to get to Mastery 50 and Mastery Break afterwardsHoly shit, what a resource dump.
>>573704609if you're not running 45 drain on any character what are you even doing in chaos difficultyI agree otherwise but i just really REALLY fucking like the godmight slamsfor your dragonform you're running mostly x dmg or skill damage?
>>573705462I'm just not getting hit personallyand if I get hit it was actually my abuse goblin siegfried so it doesn't matter
God I hope Sandal players just die off now that he's not braindead. I can't fucking SEE anything with this retard's giant wings in my face. Missing half my parries cause of it cause I can't see what the fucking boss is doing.
Came back to the game for ER and I literally don't remember anything I'm so overwhelmed
>>573705735>midget mad at giant winged man
>>573705735I've never pubbed after sandal's release so I've never even seen a sandal outside of his story appearance in the lucilius fight and his dumbass fuckin wings still pissed me offI hate that character he looks so dumb. I hate women
what character is the best rental bot for slimeblasting?
>>573706295Isn't it still Rackam and Eugen?
>HIS REIGN ENDSkino
Anyone has some tech with Beatrix?Currently just sitting on yellow doing skills -> combo finisher -> extra finisher and going red when the boss is stunnedI've heard something about Stout heart + drain and something else to be unkillable?
>>573706295eustace and dragonform id can clear very well too
someone mentioned slimes for MSP but it doesn't seem all that amazing vs just killing random shit for summons to mulch. am I missing something?
>>573708032slimes should net you 75k every 3 minutes if you have at least one other 50+ player in the lobby
>>573708213>>573708032Which mission is it?
>>573705462Yeah I'm still at early Chaos++ so we'll see how this thing fares. I like that this form lasts 4 whole minutes while Godmight only lasts 20 seconds though it cums with smart Link Time & SBA
Upgraded everything and I still suck ass
>22 minutes raid wasted by a fucking bea who ate all the bar kick all enmity niggers in sight
>you can transcend Ascended weaponsfuckkk i dont know what character to focus on now
Words cannot express how much I fucking hate Vyrn.He contributes literally fucking NOTHING.He's just an annoying fucking cocksucker to take any and all seriousness (what little there is) out of the story.The crew will be having a deep moment and out of nowhere this scaled cumstain will scream in his shrill, gay voice something to the tune of "jeepers, that just happened".Like holy fuck SHUT THE FUCK UUUUP.They should have just replaced this faggizard with a silent owl or a bird that's our pet and it would've made a thousand times more appealing and even marketable character, which is the only thing I can imagine they were aiming for with this disgusting creature.I would be hard pressed to see this cocksucker in an actual children's show rated 3 & under, much less this game, which, while childish enough, seems to have an identity crisis with the characters swearing up a storm in addition to adult references while the story and overall vibe hardly measures up to the books I was reading as a wee lad.A mediocre story I can handle, but a mediocre story with the most annoying creature ever know to man on screen every ten minutes... my fingers hover above the Alt and F4 buttons every time I hear his shrill nauseating voice.They wanted a marketable plushie? I must hand it to them... Because I almost want to buy one just to burn it at the pyre.
>>573710378Cygames' writers are known to be one of the worst writers in the JP videogame industry.
>>573678845>>573678386Damn i unlocked them all to early to uncap their weapons.MSP is a mega grind but its not that hard but free MSP is always good.
>>573681626He meant that the sigils drop like candy in quests, you cant synthesize them together so you still need to play to RNGesus for good 2nd traits.
>>573710184What fight was it?
>>573710378O-oira...
>>573706521if you're using her mastery trait with embrasque unleashed, you should cancel after the first hit on the power finisher, because the first hit is the one that gives you the embrasque unleashed levels. That lets you get to level 10 faster. you don't have to go through the long ass jump and landing lag.
>>573688972I used terminus all the way until i transcended defender. So
>>573706521I also just checked and it looks like the uppercut has the same damage cap as the slam, meaning in embrasque unleashed lv10, you should cancel after the upper cut hits. Like immediately after. you'll get a barrage of numbers after the first contact.
>>573699483No duh dipshit.You should min/max every piece of gear to limit your grind later.you see an item hitting max, you quit the quest and go and trade it.
>>573710378He contributed to [your] upbringing you ungrateful 15 year old, is this the thanks the lizard gets for being your single parent for a decade after your dad fucked off to try and exorcise the Great Lizard in the Sky out of your mother?
>>573711902vyrn is incapable of raising anyone
>>573703736As I started Er i had 117 the max I ever had in 1 go and I bet i will never get above that again.
>>573710378the day kugurie stops voice acting is the day japanese media is saved>>573712031he literally did though he's basically gran's father
>>5737108674 boss gauntlet after luci
>>573711578just checked in training, looks like doing the full slam is better because the slam seems like it does more instances of damage. unfortunate
>>573712134no he wasn't, grandad was still around for a bit after gran was born. he was more like your childhood friend
>>573711902I only know what the game tells me. So far the only thing he's been is a "pal". And a really fucking annoying one at that.
Someone tell me what are some good AI to build? Preferably AI that can buff/debuff and still put out ok damage.
>>573712721He canonically took shifts changing Gran/Djeeta's diapers with Gallanth and Orologia.
>>573713051fueled by painfried serves me extraordinarily well, though it isn't the best at using the parry
Any Beafolks in Insanity? How does she fare?
>>573713570I never played him in base game, what kind of support does he give? I'm tempted to invest in my rosetta but her support mastery traits require her to do combo D which I have no idea if the AI will do much.
if I get fraux and fediel for 2 crewmate tickets each will I still end up having enough to get everyone else?I remember in the base game they gave you exactly 1 for every character and no extra
Returning after like 1.5 years what's my to do list or should I just run at every incomplete quest whiling trying to remember the game and trying out the new characters (the Zeta muscle memory snapped back instantly)
>>573713867There's a bunch of crewmate cards scattered around the campaign chapters. Takes a few minutes to get them all. Also, Conflux can reward crewmate cards (pick "Fortune" when you see it).
>>573713867Think about your post for a while. Do you think the devs would permanently cuck you out of characters?
>>573710378he's the true fucking based lizard that calls all the bullshit that's happening, if lyria didn't have her role as an external disk all she does is HAWAWAWAWA all over the place
>>573713867There are so many crewmate cards in the game that they added an option to trade them in for Azurite's Splendor lmao
>>573713862partywide veil (and drain I guess), and in endless ragnarok with fueled by pain, every time he uses a self buffing skill he covers/substitutes all allies. and every time he eats an ally's hit, he gains damage caphe's fantastic as a tank and veil is the bestI've got mine with an aegis/gaegis sigil, stronghold, stout heart, and the thing that reduces damage taken when you have stout heart and he lets me play extremely aggressively and push damage very hard, and he still does pretty solid damage
>>573703736You can get them pretty fast in Chaos quests but it does take like close to 100 per weapon transcendence, so that's maybe like two characters worth of CentrumsAt least Azurite is easy to get now too
>>573714005>>573714231thanks>>573714045Obviously not actually. But in the base game for example one of the tickets was locked behind 30 gold badges which was pretty much impossible to get because online was dead. So that was one character that might as well be unavailable if you didn't play when the game was active (which I didn't at the time)
>>573713867I got a crew ticket from the treasure's way in conflux and now I have 2 useless tickets
To the anon in the /v/ thread that wanted Fraux and Fediel doing Umapyoi, I recorded this for you. Sorry if its shit.https://files.catbox.moe/ocu6pq.mp4
>>573714525>uselessFree azurite
>>573710194You can do them to terminus too later on, and they become the strongest weapons again though with a new cap of 200k hp for their effect instead of 45k.
do I unlock terminus after hexa? don't tell me it's still a long way
how much better is turdminus than ascension this time?
Both Pyet-a and Siero are resolute on being absolute fucking cunts and refuses to give me my sigils, does anyone know a good alternative for quick charge V+?
>>573714919Enough that you don't need any attack ups with one only cap ups.
how the fuck are you suppose to dodge shit every attack is like effects hell
>>573714962proud vulkan bolla nihila is pretty consistent for me and very fast>>573715114I mean that's also true of ascension. so far I guess. maybe that changes with m40+ or soI gotta get MSP
>>573715114That's true for all the weapons
Fraux or Fediel
>>573715204>The fire worm againI mean, at this point I don't really fucking care anymore what I have to fight, it'll be painful regardless.Thank you anon.
Why are Narm players so fucking bad? I never used her but 90% of my failed quest are because of her. Just failed a Chaos+ Furycane due to her. Is there something about her that's hard!
>>573646387Ive seen people throw out fediel's combo finisher orbs repeatedly, how do I do that? I saw something about dodge canceling but when I do, I just do the standard air claw swipe
>>573715846It's one of her master traits
>>573715668>why is the character the majority of players played would have mixed bad players in the bagare stupid?
is there only reason to hold onto ambrosias?>>573715846it's one of her master traits, you need to be in the endgame to get at that stuff
How do you even play ferry
>>573715668She's a little complex but it's more that katana+hot attracts people that think they're way better than they are. It happens in every game. Also what >>573716071 said
What Master Trait style is everyone running on Beatrix? She seems fun with the whole clock mechanic.
>>573716094I only use em when I'm out of MSP but you could eat them whenever you're not close to the MSP cap. It's pretty high now.
>>573716138Before it was like spam summons, spam YNo idea with her masteries now I haven't tried her again yet
I hate this jewess
so what do these actually mean? just more rewards per thingy?
I am already tired of conflux broswhy isn't there a difficulty past 5?
>>573716628after 1 or 2 months
>>573716340one of her new mastery involves "not having summons" but her whole kit is using summons, and her X attacks are terrible so i have no idea what this means. I guess its the same as spamming Y
>>573716138You don't, cause her design is shit and her one reason for existing combat-wise ceased to exist once the plunge attack got nerfed. There's a reason you will literally never see Ferry in public lobbies anymore. People only played her for the busted ass SBA gain bug cause they're soulless meta-trannies and no one liked the character otherwise.
>>573714919>Below 200,000 Atk +70%/DMG cap +500%>Atk 40%/DMG cap 350%150% dmg cap and whatever the hell their 5th perk is vs unbound strike(dmg cap up for nomral attacks), First impression is that with all the dmg cap upgrades we get from ER its not that much of a jump but the 5th perk might change that and ascenion kinda has a deadweight effect in regular attack up versus terminus' DMG cap
>>573716516Anon getting UPUPU'D
>>573716560I have no idea. I ditched this mode but I got a message saying something about them after progressing in chaos++haven't done a run yet to see what has changed
I'm already tired of spirit bomb Fediel. Might go back to Zeta or Id
>>573716759terminus saves you a damage cap sigil slot and the final effect is another 50% dmg cap, you don't need more than 200k hp anyway
>>573650672It's janky as fuck, if the last hit of your regular finisher doesn't connect you skip to delta clock and accidentally stance swap constantly
>>573677559Wow that's dogshit
Why is it so hard to get MVP with Bea bros...it's always Fraux, Song, and Fediel...
>get to Primeval Bahamut fight>every team is retarded and we keep getting handed the fucking element-specific crystal mechanic that can't be circumvented by War Elemental and the one person on the team with the needed element is a fucking retard that can't clear them so we just dieAIDS and cockrots upon whoever thought this mechanic was a fucking good idea.
How long does it take before they let you start to transcend terminus? I just got to point where I can fight lucilius
>>573716560Basically you need all of them from the run to get the full rewards listed on the startIf you have only 1 or 2 you get proportionally less items
>>573717146Gotta beat Hexa
>>573717085huh? i had no idea that was a mechanic, i've always been able to just kill them regardless of my element
>>573717257I have no idea who that is or when you get to him
>>573714962I always have time for Supy!
I have more crewmate tickets than there are characters in the game.
>>573717292Every time I try to kill the crystals I get the CLUNK sound and the darkened damage numbers effect which means my attacks are getting giga-resisted. So I can only assume it's an element specific mechanic.
Do you like Metera?
>>573717375you're almost thereand then you gotta unlock infinity hexa to get the last upgrade for your terminus
ff16 mogged frfr
>>573716832maybe I'm not doing something that breaks it or makes it braindead, but I'm having so much fun with it I can't imagine it being boring. I haven't watched any of the clips people post about it being bustedbut she moves around so much and gets to do so much fun stuff with teleports and using them to get around attacks and going into the air to dodge things with finishers that I honestly can't imagine it not being fun. the only part I wish was different was maybe miasma hands attacking faster the more times you do it or something but she doesn't actually need buffsshe's really interesting and has a lot of tech to fuck around with. if she gets nerfed I hope it's just numbers or something because she's just FUNthat said I am mostly used to siegfried and vaseraga. siegfried is the most boring character fucking ever to play as and vaseraga's only fun thing is charged parries and damage numbers
>>573717419IIRC it's a shield that you have to whittle through
Is it me or are vas players just as likely to eat bar as much as bea players?
>>573718135Okay well the idiots I get paired with are still too shit to kill the shields cause even when I tear through one of the crystals 1-2 of them are still up and we get smashed.
>tfw stuck in conflux jail now to gear my NPCs
Do I really need to break mastery level to have a chance at the infinity fights?
>>573717620this shit was so sick manI stand by endless ragnarok going all in on arena boss rush being a mistake
Someone said that Wuwa has better combat and boss fights.Is that true?
peepot harvin
>>573719274of course gweilo
>>573719274you can disregard anything ever said by a hoyofaggot
>>573719274Lmao
>>573719274ZZZ*
>>573719146unironically yesyou can get away with everyone being 3* if you have a solid party, but you should aim to be 5*
>>573719540Anon....WuWa isn't a Hoyo game...you might be retarded...
>>573686789>defender weaponBARF
>tfw can't decide who to play so resorting to a spinner wheel with character names
>>573720115same shit
>>573719146The last uncap has disgusting amounts of cap up
>>573720115it is indistinguishable from hoyo shityou are retarded for liking it
Hey so I came back for the dlc but I don't actually have enough power to take on the first mission so like what should I do to get stronger I genius do not remember the games progression systems very well
>>573719146The difference between someone at base 50 and someone at 5 stars is like the difference between someone using a terminus weapon or not in the base game. Just getting to 1* alone will give you like 30% damage cap and each tier up gives you even more cap and hp
>players complained that only terminus is a usable weapon in the base game, how do we fix this?>let them transcend terminus too and make it head and shoulders better than all the other ones again>I am a genius
>>573690558What new scenes did they add? i just started and wouldn't know
>>573720798It's still the worst weapon for the hardest bosses. At least the other weapons actually do something now.
the other weapons are not that far off desua lot of your dmg cap increase is actually behind summons and they are so shit to grind for
>>573721540What's the highest amount of cap up you can get in one summon
>>573720171Don't be jealous of my thickness, anon.>>573720798>head and shouldersIt's only a small bit better than ascension and even the other weapons are more than enough. It's not like Relink where terminus gapped awakened ascension by a good 60% or better.
>>573721769terminus cap up is about 150% higher than asc's.Combine that with higher base attack and the fact that you're going to be running things besides hp up since everything one shots you up to 500k hp, and there's no point not to use it unless you're defense maxing with thickness.
Thank you Fish
>>573721593I know for sure you can get 50% normal or skill dmg up there might be ultra small odds for 60% for those lines too, not sure yet
>ascension has 1 atk sigil slotthis is just terribad, it's cope
>>573721593+100% on shit like Luci summon
>>573721963That 150% is not a very large increase anon. Not with all the other damage cap they crammed down our throats.At best it's 10% above ascension and the ability to add in that HP and even tools for defenses is going to be invaluable for certain characters.
>>573722073Have seen a Lucillius with Berserker Echo and 100% Normal cap upWas so jelly
>>573722128Yeah sucks that they didn't change that skill for itAt least you can shove supplementary damage in the 2nd slot
>>573722243>10% above asensionOne's at 350% cap upThe other's 500%That's not 10%
>>573720439>indistinguishableI'm afraid your retardation is terminal. My condolences to your parents. That's like saying all Japanese shit is indistinguishable from one another. You're just mad the chinks of all things are actually competing with Japan and not letting it just sit on it's hands for free anymore like it has for the past 15 years recycling the same shit again and again and keeping the scope insanely small because boomers in Japan just wanna siphon money out with minimal investment and go put said profits into non-gaming related things and re-invest literally none of it back into the games and companies that made them said money in the first place. Meanwhile chinks working themselves ragged non-stop and making 15m+ a month and putting that back into the games themselves. Chink games got their own sets of problems but this tribalistic attitude of yours towards them for actually yoinking the lazy Japanese's lunch is just childish. You're as bad as the Nintendrones.
>>573720798Transcended Terminus is only a bit better damage-wise, and it's probably going to be a trap imo because you aren't gaining that much damage.The meta is likely going to be ascension weapons because it completely shits on the basic weapons while only being a little behind Terminus.Here are all the fully transcended effectsDefender>Ecru gives 50% ATK and 260% DMG Cap at >200k max HP>Unbound Exertion gives 50% SBA DMG CapExecutioner>Cardinal gives a 60-second-long, stacking buff based on hitting weakpoints/back attacks stacking up to 5 times; Cardinal V gives 40% ATK and 310% DMG Cap>Unbound Technique gives 30% Skill DMG CapStinger>Cobalt gives 50% ATK and 270% DMG Cap when at 200% Crit>Unbound Technique gives 30% Skill DMG CapStunner>Sage gives a permanent stacking buff based on every 20% Link level; Sage V gives 35% ATK and 280% DMG Cap>Unbound Exedrtion gives 50% SBA DMG CapNow compare those basic weapons to the other twoAscension>Supernova gives 40% ATK and 350% DMG Cap>Unbound Strike gives 30% Normal Attack DMG CapTerminus (requires beating every Infinity quest)>Catastrophe Nova gives 70% ATK and 500% DMG Cap while below 200k max HP>Unbound Master gives 50% DMG Cap
>>573719274Theyre both great
>>573722445>500+50% cap up>only slightly better when attack isn't an issue anymore?????????
After getting both Terminus and Ascension to max Transcendence.I have to say that Terminus is bait. It inflates your numbers a lot but in practice the difference isn't that drastic.
>>573722374anon, you don't know how damage cap workslet's say right now you have 2000% damage cap from all of your bonuses between masteries/sigils/summons/etc. adding 150% more damage cap isn't going to double your damage, it's only going to give you a much smaller percentage>>573722578see above
>>573722431I couldn't give less of a fuck retard I just hate everyone who plays x impactthis means YOU TOO, the one remaining nin impact player out there, wherever you are
>>573722431>melty wall of textretarded faggot get cancer
>>573722670That's still more damage in general, which translates to all normal and supp damage sources. And unless you're defender maxing you are not going to have more than 200k hp so how is it even bait?
>>573722739I don't even play Genshart Impact, just pointing out you have 70 IQ and an underdeveloped niggerbrain.>>573722809Concession accepted swarthy.
>>573722431You're biting the bait of that one pooraj indian shitposter who goes into any thread he can to shitpost about genshin and wuwa.
>>573722883you are the one defending hoyoslopseek a rope
>>573722810>And unless you're defender maxing you are not going to have more than 200k hpThe other weapons get you about there after your masteries and shit and you can use Aegis/Greater Aegis in some free slots. They add a lot more together at 15 than getting just Greater to 30.
>>573722445How can Terminus not be meta when it's 180% more damage cap? Sure damage cap is diluted to the point 180% that crazy of a boost, but more is more and 200k HP is plenty enough
>>573722810You don't need that much to go past 200k hp by the point Terminus Trans becomes available.200k means you get one shot by everything with Terminus.Yes. You get some more dmg with Terminus. But unless you are a god at dodging, the critical bar will be reserved just for you on the hardest raids.
>>573722810>unless you're defendermaxxingI'm using ascension and a single aegis/gaegis sigil and am at a very aesthetically pleasing 222200I do not know how to get 22 more hp unfortunately
>>573723060500k still gets you one shot too because everything at a certain point just plain one taps you, and at that point you should use freed up slots from teminus providing all the cap you need for things like guts and auto revive.
>haven't played for a while>doing catch up>nobody is playing anything except deep endgamewas kinda hoping for a rush of new players ngl
>>573722578>one hit of an attack deals 1,000 damage at your base cap>this attack now deals 20,000 damage after getting all of your damage cap boosts between masteries, sigils, summon traits, and any other boosts I'm forgetting aboutin this example, terminus would only be dealing 21,500 damage instead of 20,000 damage>>573722810the other reason it's bait is because every weapon has built in sigils you can swap between. Most of Terminus' options are kinda shit outside of overdrive assassin and combo finisher unless you need utility like regen/drain/nimble defenseyou're likely going to be sitting at 250k-300k HP before you unlock your terminus in the first place and you're really going to want the survivability for clearing the infinity fights
>200k is plenty enough>Gets dunked for 250k and all the dps potential from terminus is replaced by floor licking fun time.
Katalina bros how is she in ER? Did she get an worthwhile buffs?
>>573723268Terminus has drain too which everyone should have somewhere in their build at the end
>>573723313>have 700k hp vane>bubz one shots me through guard>luci slaps my shit so hard the game glitches and he becomes untargetable>the world somehow doesn't one shot me anymore>hexa does so much damage the damage numbers don't even pop up I just die
>>573721769Defender weapon is a joke. An Ascenion weapon with Drain will give you more effective HP.
>>573723003>defending hoyoslopAt what point? WuWa isn't made by Hoyo you inbred.
Shut the fuck up about your gacha nigger dogshit
>>573722431lol
>>573723761what does a dragon need fat tiddies for
>>573723520And I don't have ascension leveled all the way yet, obviously.Bold of you too, to assume i don't have drain stacked up.
Terminusfags never change.
How do ATK up buffs interact with the damage cap?
>>573724062Holds lots of darkness
>>573722656It free ups a sigil slot
>>573723487>have 700k hp vaneif you're somehow getting oneshot as a 700k hp vane then you're either running meme sigils that reduce your defense or you're facetanking the obvious overdrive wipe attackst. tank build
>>573724179Buffs and Debuffs apply through it
>>573724179they don't
How difficult is Fraux? I'm a shitter that spent launch playing Vane and Zeta.
>>573724179they don'tif they'd had any sense they would have tied cap up to attack buffs in some of the master trait nodes so that they'd be fucking usable at all, but they didn't
>>573724179Now buffs (and DEF down) and effects that only say "DMG Up" like one of the Celestial sigils will raise your damage over your cap.
>>573724115you could justify the terminusfagging back in the base game because it practically doubled your damage output but terminus is nowhere near as good now
>>573724260atk up increases dmg caps?
>>573724179Don't listen to retardsRead the official patch notes
>hp retards thinking higher hp means they survive and shitting on terminus usersHP alone won't let you survive things very often. You have to pair it with stronghold and guts, the former let me tank attacks that wiped the rest of the party through sheer defense, and the latter let me survive my own fuckups that should have killed me..t defender hp meme enjoyer
>>573724473So party-wide ATK up buffs are useful and worth bringing now?
>>573724473does that affect master traits? I've been skipping the ones that increase attack for skillsalso conflux auras I guess but there's nothing in conflux that needs any amount of effort
I dont know who to focus on......
>>573724504There's normal attacks starting at like Chaos+ that hit for 100k+ I'm not chugging a potion every time I get sneezed on
>>573724707They are mandatory now. Support maxxing is actually very good now.
not enough draph titties in the game
>>573724789Would you rather chug a revive or 1/5 a bar every time you're sneezed at?
>>573724707Nyes
ENDFIELD has better combat.
>>573724473What about the move-specific master traits? Like Stomp Attacks ATK+10%.
>>573724860>>573724473Thank you anon(s), good drop RNG be upon you.
>Ascencion Tank maxxing with Drain buildI spend half the time picking up Narmayas from the floor.
I can't find players for fucking anything what is this bullshit.
>>573724789you dont have to chug a potion, drain does crazy work endgame
>>573724179Attack up in sigils and masteries don't increase past the cap, so you really only need enough in masteries then ignore all attack related sigilsChargacter attack buffs and def debuffs on the other hand are amazing. They all additively do increase your damage past the cap
>>573724090You don't need to max it out. Even a crit/stun weapon is going to be better than that shitty defender.
>>573724918I'm HPmaxxing you've got the wrong guy
>>573724783I just want to cuddle with Yuel all day and night.....
>win after getting wasted by Bubs 5 times overUnironic KINO. Haven't felt that way since the first Proud promotion Versa fight.
>>573724962Nope. Anything your base character has before going into the quest is subject to the damage cap except shit like SuppDamage effects.In the quest, any buff that increases your ATK/DMG/SUPPV applies on top of your dmg cap.
>>573724473Supposedly 15% ATK upLeft buffRight no buff
>>573725074>wah wah wah stop using a weapon that's a small amount worse than another during progressionShut up nerd.
>>573724721No, master traits do not, but still useful since it should give you enough attack to get to cap without needing to invest in any attack related sigils
>>573725343>15-25m damageWhat are you using?
HPmaxxers fear the GBFR logs.
Are we still using Terminus weapons or not anymore? No idea what's the "meta" in Ragnarok now.
now if only it was normal attack cap up
>>573725567Terminus if you want to cosplay a slug
>>573725567If you're sure you can survive terminus is the best. If you don't want to be the reason for failure then the ascension weapon.
>>573725567They're still the strongest but it's not an infinity sized gap between the others anymore
>>573725567Terminus is still the best but other weapons are very viable now with niches for builds.Any non defender build however will be a lot more fragile.
>>573725471the standard lumen, terra, breaker, capup lvl60 on a non max terminus
>>573725783>If you're sure you can surviveEverything was one-shotting you in the vanilla endgame anyway.
>>573724707Yes. It's also a big part of why Vane is so good now. Just the lv1 trait when using breakthrough and drach is a large boost to the party and when you consider he can also add soul eruption for another huge buff and never need a potion?Shits great.>>573725502>HPmax>dps is only like 15% less than it could be at mostMore like parsers fear the immortal.
>>573725574>there are niggas logging in relinkthis makes me happy that this isnt liveservicei just hope for relink 2
>>573725878God damn terminus made your damage that fucking nutty?
>>573725567It's the same progression as base game, use a transcendes base weapon until you can transcend your ascension, use the transcended ascension until you can fully transcend the terminus, use fully upgraded terminusThe gap between terminus and ascension is a lot smaller this time though
What does Ferry do? Just onslaught spam?I want to play her but I don't see her *thing* you know?
>>573726003is not maxed yet, it was mostly the 3* masteries
Mods status? I gotta wait until modders update their mods right? I don't think I can play without panty/uncensor mods...
>have to use other characters as main if I want to upgrade their ascension weaponslooks like they're permanently handicapped
>>573726029>It's the same progression as base game, use a transcendes base weapon until you can transcend your ascensionI think I only finished 1 Ascension weapon in vanilla because it was a pain in the ass to grind for them.I did fully uncap all the Terminus ones though.
>>573726158Isn't it just go kill Versa with them and use their Skybound 3 times You can do those in the same quest even
>white sigils like stun/hp gives +40% dmg cap after mastery>people are still using lucilius sigils that give less than thatthey'll learn soon
>>573726210a few runs of conflux get you all the mats for max ascension now
What are people even playing I genuinely cannot find games outside quick play.
>>573725384>small amount worselol
>>573726292its just annoying to save scum the synthesis to put the basic stats in the first slot with whatever you want in the 2nd
How are we doing terminusbros? HPsissies need not ap- oh wait, you faggots are still stuck on Chaos++ or you can't even pass the world's dps check without a dpsmaxxing fediel carrying your ass.
>>573726210Each step of transcension unlocks masteries now so you'll want to max everythingThe grind isn't so bad now though with conflux and everything giving a shit ton more matsEven fully transcending the terminus weapon only needs mats that you can get after doing like 8 quests
There is no dumb shit from curios I have to look out for like old war elemental used to be right?
How do you play dancho everything feels like dick
>>573726252I don't want other characters in my top 3 usage
where do you farm attack V+s thinking of the hundreds of nice attack v+s I've mulched and weeping
>>573726830Nothing worth using I think but most of the old curio exclusive stuff has + sigils available now
>>573726882Get Stun Power not Atk if you're trying to use that Damage Cap mastery
>>573726882Just use stun and hp, they're both actually going to provide some sort of benefit.
>>573726882You don't need attack V+, you want stun power V+
>>573727158>>573727165>>573727225ok where do you farm stun power v+s
Is DMG Up from Sigils subject to damage caps?
>>573727291Hope you didn't melt them down to tickets to feed jewrokarte lmao
Id,Gallanza,Vane and who should be my fourth?
>I have to remake all my dmg cap sigils to stat/dmg sigilsay caramba
>>573727369Damage up increases beyond the cap so they are generally good, but usually have big downsides or are character specific in a warpath or something
>>573727387I sure did
>>573727482savescumming intensifies
>>573726830Curios are still my fastest source of berserker/spartan echoes+ and warpath+ I am NOT hearing "ANBIRIBABOOOOO" for 10 minutes and savescumming
Just mod it.
>sick ass dragon fight>finally some good story and cinematic>"kick its butt!" :^))))))))HOLY SHIT VYRN YOU CAN'T NOT RUIN ANYTHINGBEHEAD VYRN BEHEAD THIS NIGGER LIZARD TOTAL VYRN DEATH!!!!11!!!!1!
>>573727369Show a picture
>>573727685SUGOI SUGOI
>>573727482>need stun power/dcap>Also want a couple defense sigil/celestial for the bonus HPThe worst part about the rerolls is gonna be seeing damage cap/aegis when it HAS to be aegis/damage cap.
jobcillus returned to job for a 3rd time and he's practically giving his sigils to you but they're useless, this poor pathetic manlet
>another failed luci because people aren't bringing stun and upliftaieeeeeeeeee
>>573723060you don't get one shot with 150k hp and stout heart + steel nerves
I've never savescummed and I've never used cheat modsnever willshit's for fagstake when you get and savor when the casino gives you something sick, it's much more fulfilling
I don't give a fuck lol
>>573728058I slimeblasted for 30 minutes then cheated in millions of MSP.I transmarveled 800 times and got only 2-3 character sigils per character so I started cheat engining the character sigils.I'm having a blast.
>>573717620this game really does make me think "what if ff14 and ff16 had actual rpg elements and character growth" sometimes. the giant ass circle arenas and that sick scene at least
holy fuck this is so cancerI need to get an auto team going asap
>>573728298none of your auto team will farm oozeslimes
>>573727628>>573727790It was specifically regarding Concentrated fire, but a test shows it just increases my overcap amount from 103~110% to about 150%.
>>573728461they can farm the 4 dragons
>>573728298Enjoy that slime farm, for a second time!
>>573727729Can't go a day in your life without taking the easy way out can you.
does anyone know of any good djeeta builds? I've been running substitute support but I feel like I'm not contributing enough damage and want to do more, working on upgrading my sigils and transcendence to help with that in the meantime but wondering if I should just shift to full damage and buffs as opposed to substitute+phalanx+panacea shield spam. I'm currently running thishttps://imgur.com/a/djeeta-support-ewgqEcK
how are you farming tickets this time around?
>>573728497If the sigil doesn't say damage cap in it's effect, then it's subject to the damage cap.Only exception is Supplemental Damage
>captain in my partythat's instant leavejust play solo and stop griefing online lobbies please
>>573728623
>>573728590I'm farming 4 dragons because you can get legendary summons too
>>573729387grans are baseddjeetas are dogshit
>>573727729Update broke the funny mods.
if your char has a team wide buff and you don't bring it, you're a nigger
>>573728497It has to just be "DMG Up" not "Ranged DMG Up" or "Skill DMG Up" or whatever.One of the Celestial sigils is like that, the 10% DMG Up but you can't be healed by others one.
Djeeta is based.Nobody plays Gr*ncuck both in Relink or GBF.
Where do you farm 3* versions of the 1 bar support summons?I saw the sword veil fellowship give teamwide supp damage and I want to get that for my buffslut build
>>573729416Even Japanese NEETs look down on subhumans like you.
so the stat sigil in the masteries stack? like that's 200% dmg cap up, I can kick out terra
>>573729647That's not how it works.Nothing goes past the Damage cap unless it specifically says it does.
those should be stun/cap?
>>573725567>No idea what's the "meta" in Ragnarok now.Its summons>bare minimum 4 with Equip Bonus, Normal atk up+50%, this is the bare minimum.>full minmaxthe above plus lvl15 skills like Stout Heart, Potion Hoarder, Supplemental or any of the Celestials >Why?To free up space from your Sigil table and slot normal stat sigils
padjeetakeks in the thread
>>573729806Yes. You're not going to kick out terra even if you do get them :^)
>>573729916sorry my guy, that's shit, get 3 stun/cap
>>573729740can you take a ss? I don't have this one
is referee exclusive to infinity luci?i don't want to keep spamming it...
djeeta pickers are yuriniggers
>>573726105I asked earlier in the thread and no one seems to know
>>573730129But if you have 3 stun/cap what do you use on your weapon imbue instead? HP???
>>573730484those dmg cap from basic sigils masteries do not count wightstones as equipped
>>573730580Yeah, that's the DMG Up status effect.
>>573726105her thing before was getting sba for the team as fast as possible and just have a constant spam of it every other minuteno idea how she plays now but probably the same
Anyone got a good Cag build? I've been coping with Defender and health stacking all the way up.
>>573730140Have a badly lot picture I stead since I'm a PSshitterThink I picked this one up in Zathbas after finishing up Fraux quests but I don't see them drop anywhere
>>573730841Her attack buff actually works for the team now at least
>>573730841Ferry hasn't been SBA spam in the base game for a long time. She was nerfed hard in that. No idea what ER did to her now. But Ferry was down in the dumps back in the base game with no good niche to her name.
>>5737309671 cost too that's hugegonna farm for it now
>>573729901>>573729258Not always true, Celestial Ventus and character warpaths do increase beyond the damage cap as a separate multiplierSpecifically if you see DMG dealt or DMGThe EX mastery that increases damage to weak element also increases 10% beyond the cap too
>>573730580Yeah you see that up arrowThats the DMG BUFF you get in the quest from skills.Retard
>>573731157I was not even replying to you
>>573712134I think you should kill yourself DESU>>573730967Screenshot with the button and download the image on your phone to share
>>573731128The verbiage in English just isn't great because Cygay's localizers are retarded.I wouldn't be surprised if the Nip Verbiage is the equivalent of Damage Amp since I remember the nip verbiage being pretty 1:1 with GBF, while in English it's hit and miss here.
what is the best quest to farm a stout heart summon?
>>573731514ennugi in chaos++, appetizing something
>>573730267>refereeI have one without touching the infinity quests yet, so it drops elsewhere at least.Probably chaos++ luci since it came with gamma>>573731514I thought it was the chaos++ behemoth level but /v/ was saying the summon drops on the post-hexa skeleton quest.It'll have higher substats there as well
>>573731487Yeah actually also realized that concentrated fire says DMG dealt but afaik does NOT increase beyond capCelestial ventus definitely does increase 10% beyond cap even if it says DMG dealt. Should probably be DMG (up arrow)
>>573729901>>573731487>>573731846It's not consistently worded ingame at all but Ventus absolutely passes the cap
>>573725567I think the fact that people are arguing about it and there isn't an absolute 100% certified ONE THING ONLY meta as of now means they did a pretty good job at giving you some more options to build this time around. I didn't even upgrade my AI party's ascension weapons past the basic weapon upgrade level-ups on base game since terminus was the only thing that mattered.
>>573730967this is probably locked behind the next infinity quests
>>573730967>>573732137all the summons that are just NPCs are from shinies in towns
Do I actually unlock nodes for 2/3 star after M50? Or are they stuck at 10
relinkfix whenthis game's default fov is dog shit
>>573725567I been trying to math it out a little and it looks to be like a 10-12% damage increase between ascension and terminus. Granted that extra sigil slot from not having a wasted weapon effect(atk vs DMG cap) is another factor to consider
>>573729750They can't look down on me, they are fucking gnomes and I'm a towering giant.
>>573726562whats the sigils looking like vro
>>573732312Well fuck, do they respawn at least? I don't wanna be stuck with combo finisher as it's sigil as my only one.
I'm looking at all the supposed farming maps like the slime one to help me catch up for end game and nobody is running any of them at all.
>>573732801Yeah its just a random drop on top of whatever the shinies would normally have. Do a bunch of quests and they respawn eventually but it would be hell trying to farm for a specific effect on one.
Is it me or do some enemy attacks just not hit when they should when using fraux's parry?
Another day wasted trying to get past the world only for everyone to eat shit and die constantly enough that now I'M the one eating shit from being worn out
waitif defense downs break the damage cap, how do they work exactly? what does reducing the opponent's defense do in relink? there isn't a defense stat to look at like there is HP or ATK
>that song on the new slimpedeYep I'm thinking kino.
Does anyone notice this 20% charge time at all?? Wondering if this is a dead character sigil to replace with something more useful
Can someone please teach me how to beat Beelze in Conflux 5 with my CPUs?
>>573733296The DMG Cap is the only thing worth about that Sigil.
>>573733435Hit him until he diesHope this helps
>>573733435use the full assist mode lil bro
>>573733435I went in pretty undergeared myself with even more undergeared NPCs and I was fine as far as finishing.What specifically are you having problems with? Just dying? Use the weapon that scales off HP
>>573733173There isn't a real Def stat, it basically means they take x% more damage
>>573733435it's conflux man just pick better auras
>>57373346020% is like nothingGuess I'll hit the SUGOI SUGOI mines
Good to see that people still suck at Gallanzo fight.Nothing has changed since the release.
someone make a new thread
>>573733729so fediel's def down on stomps is insane then and all def downs are premium options since they all stack
Still wish they'd added lyria's song proper.The homescreen ver. without lyrics isn't good enough
>>573734026I gave my AI Eugen his venom grenades back now since you can make it a 15% defense down in his first tier of masteries
>>573734383>>573734383>>573734383
>>573734026Yes all Fediels should be running that stomp sigil and attack buff in party playEven when you're playing with multiple Feds, the buffs/debuffs don't overwrite and each player provides separate bonuses
>>573731714i guess I missed it, the lower luci probably drops it too theni feel like I'm going to need to carry him around because people aren't building enough stun
>>573735397some characters just don't build much stun desu.stargaze doesn't fill the bar for shit, so you can't always blame the players.wouldn't hurt to bring it though
>>573725264Did your party retry it every time? Feels so good when all the randoms stick with it.
Does the endgame solve terminus weapons having that extra Lv.5 Dmg Cap? It's not the end of the world but they really gave Dmg Cap sigil a terminus-shaped hole in the base game.
>>573738204it does by giving you an extra 10 levels so you can drop a dmg cap sigil
