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Fishing is for Pals Only Edition

Previous debt: >>573650261

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/79FxaVBV

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/5777YtCb
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

-Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font

-/utg/ Canvases
>Current: https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/76997986-5891-5075
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>Current: https://magma.com/d/3B5chWd0Vh
>Previous: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh

-Pippins Wiki
>https://utg-pippins-ocs.neocities.org

-Thread Template (paste the current whiteboard links)
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Chips ahoy landfaggots!
Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>573661963
you understand me
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What if Beavis & Butthead ended up in Hometown?
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Nightmare
Knight
Mare
Eram
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Which deltarune character spends every night before bed googling painless suicide methods?
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>>573662031
do most people think he's out of the picture now be it already ill and is now injured or is he going to end up being the knight and be fine or some shit
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>>573662089
huhuh he said he's gonna pay us in score
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>>573662093
Knight mare
Thgink ERAM...
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>>573662060
i don't get the reference but jevil would be pro-anime.
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So am I crazy or are there downright romantic undertones to the way Noelle talks about Asriel?
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>>573662093
so the knight is a horse
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>this bitch sheds like crazy
>each individual hair becomes its own darkner
>she's a Friend broodmother
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>>573662093
Taking the first letters of these gives me
NKME
Nike
Niek
Noel
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knight mare? isn't she that bitch from equestria
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>>573662183
he'll be in the holiday manor dark world
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>>573662031
I seriously had no real attachment to Carol before coming to /utg/ but after time seeing people talk about her and make art of her im starting to like her and understand that she is cute
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hey is the anon who drew the four nut, two dicked spamton doing alright? do you need a trip to the psych ward dude?
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>>573662382
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>>573662478
i'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but, he passed away last night...
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>>573662129
Probably noelle. Emphasis on the painless part. And then obviously she does none of them. Queen specifically references noelle having "strange sad searches" in chapter 2 so this might just be canon

Kris maybe also but I feel like kris coukdve tried before. Like tried overdosing on a bunch of pills but they didnt take enough so they just became yicky and green like beginning of chapter 5 ans threw up or something. In bathroom with faucet running toriel asleep or doesnt notice.
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>>573662093
Oh shit
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>>573662398
all according to plant
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pollination theory
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>>573662564
It seems like Toriel never notices anything Kris does. Kris could be elected president and Toriel would be surprised they ever ran.
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I need art of Spamtom after having all of his limbs eaten off by FRIENDlings, now living as a potato
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>>573662364
Also the Knight did look somewhat weaker in chapter 5.

>only arrives at the very end and has to make a mad gamble to nab Asgore amidst the gang and Flowery
>is somehow weak and on one knee, cannot “run away” despite being able to slash through Flowery’s 999s
>doesn’t kill Flowery right away and instead goes into a duel with him
>all of this is at the risk of Asgore breaking out of the pocket prison the Knight put him in

Yeah, it lines up with Rudy Knight still if Rudy’s weakened from the fall and couldn’t make it in time before when Asgore was alone.
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UGH IM STILL SO ANGRY, SUSIE YOU BACK STABBING BITCH
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https://files.catbox.moe/t4c4nd.mp4
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>>573662706
pwned
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>>573662564
>>573662673
You could be plapping Kris just upstairs of Toriel and she probably wouldn't even recognize the noise is coming from inside the house.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-WPk5wv7xg
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>>573662706
Wait till Chapter 6. Pink and Kris date in Castle Town, Pink+Kris vs Susie+Noelle with vs Susie Reprise in the dojo trust. We will have our revenge.
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Stronger Than You (Flowery Reprise)
Stronger Than You (Knight Response)
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>>573662556
i cant believe he was dead this whole time... no
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>>573662765
Since Rory is probably the Dess, I honestly think Flowery could have juked her for a bit by using his Asriel part to confound her.
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>>573662875
*throws up*
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Ralsei is going to be the one to die.
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ch5 ost just gave me this vibe the whole time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtSVYp0T3Qc
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Meet me at the bottom of the ocean
Where the time is frozen
Where all the universe is open
Love isn't random, we are chosen
And we could wear the same crown
Keep slowing your heart down
We are the gods now
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>>573662875
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>>573662875
*throws in*
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>>573662927
Stronger Than You (Sea Shanty ver.)
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>>573663020
yarrr... that's more like it...
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What's it taste like bros?
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>>573662509
Is Flowery confirmed dead? Or is it still open to interpretation?
It's technically possible to save a plant cut in half via grafting. Susie attempted something like that.
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>>573662875
>Go ahead and try to hit me if you're able
You should know a flower's dream is unbeatable
>You think you can trick me with your fake persona?
Well you didn't spare my king so get Jarona'd!
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I like Aqua(wholesome)!
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>>573662382
>Characters integral to fun gang character development have a habit of rage-baiting them.

Does this mean sans is gonna be the next father figure rival mentor for Kris?
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>>573663137
You manage to fix Tenna despite him cracking in half and there's the flower in tv world that talks about the flower being cut in half but it's fine
so probably
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>>573662682
But why would Kris go through with the plan if they knew Rudy was not capable of doing their part that day?
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>>573661986
>>573661924
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>>573663152
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Prediction: close to the end of the game, when the final tragedy starts to loom over the party, Ralsei will start dropping hints to players on the normal route about how maybe there's an alternate path to a different ending somewhere that might be worth it even if you have to hurt people to get there. Like an inversion of Flowey telling you how to get TP.
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does anyone have an image of flowery in the Eminem rat meme format? I feel like it should already exist.
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>>573663259
lmao
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Tobert has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever and release a Deltarune themed dating sim for the next charity fundraiser.
>>573663176
big if true
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>>573663261
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UOANRC8MwY
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Orange’s existence makes Undertale extremely uncomfortable with the idea Asgore killed a human that looked like a monster child. That must’ve been a point when he realized that some monsters were free and fully integrated into mankind.
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I was not expecting this to be tied as it was
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>>573662303
>secret MILF Catti theory
Support.
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>>573663363
adorable
i need more ut posting in 2026
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my favorite part of knight theorists is they'll provide an absolute mountain of evidence about who the knight is but when you ask them what the knight's motive is 50% of the time their response will literally be picrel
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>>573663259
lmfaoo this is great
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>>573663351
That would not be funny.
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>Haha... that fool doesn't even have the Mantle, and now after only ONE hit, they're panicking and running into all my bullets?
>It almost seems like they're doing it on purpose...
>...
>oh no
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>>573662564
Kris is a cutter, has overdosed once, starves themself out of apathy, and hits themself, Noelle has only tried things like holding her breath under the water in the bathtub and wishing she could slip away painlessly but she's done enough research to know drowning is incredibly painful
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>>573663276
>oh kris this is awful, if only you drove your friend noelle insane by getting her to freeze berdly and put him into a coma, this would have never happened
then he does an exaggerated wink at the camera before the fun gang is consumed by darkness and the game just closes.
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Hey, if Ralsei is the prince of Castle Town why doesn't he have a throne?
He needs a super tall one out of Kingdom Hearts to sit in so he can feel important.
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>>573663467
My knight motive is that Dess is practically a zombie and she’s trying to become the angel to have her happy ending.
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>>573663517
does something happen if you just run into a bunch of shit?
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>>573663137
btw, the flower that was placed in Blue's chamber is actually Yellow, Flowery is perfectly fine in the center
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Current peak esthetic equips

>Black shard
>Devil tail
>Princess ribbon (and gloves)

>Justice Axe
>Shadow mantle
>Iron Shackle

>Blue shoes
>Dealmaker
>B.Shot Bowtie

Thoughts ?
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>>573663591
The joke is the Knight realizing you're trying to no-hit
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>>573663531
Is this why she has ice powers? Because dying from hypothermia is painless?
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>>573663557
he sits in my lap
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>>573663557
His super tall throne, which he lounges on when off-screen aura farming, lies WITHIN the Castle Town fountain
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>>573663517
What does that mean?
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>>573663495
it's not about the funny, I wanna satiate my boner
idiot
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>>573663630
ah
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>>573663557
Noyno took it, Ralsei is just busy sitting in the floor now
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>>573663467
The Knight is either Rudy or Carol and they're trying to cause the Roaring to open up a way to reach the deepest darknesses where Dess is trapped.
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Noelle watches gore videos and pauses them so she can imagine the injuries in the videos happening to her.
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Noelle draws feral warrior cats porn
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>>573661986
I've had the ideas for a fanseries for literal years but don't have the art skills needed to see it complete

This is the general concept and some of the more important characters

If anyone wants to read the scripts I can post those too I would love feedback cause this is the only time I've done creative writing like this
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Aqua goes to college
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>>573663467
Actually most of them have a very clear motive in mind of "they want to save/find/bring back dess" but that actually directly conflicts with the traits the Knight has been shown to embody so far
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Noelle watches alligator eating deer videos and pauses them so she can imagine Susie is eating her.
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>Chapter 7
>It's raining
>(You) climb down into a deep, dark pit
>Kris is at the bottom, lying still, waiting to die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhrHa8lmj6o
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noelle plucks singular pubes when she's alone as an autistic habit
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>>573662706
If enough people complain enough consistently I think Toby might throw the fans a bone by having a "real" date in Castle Town
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A real ten feet twenty Flower Man
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>>573663672
Back in chapter 2 era we used to have a bunch of writefags do Greentexts for all sorts of wicked shit. I wonder what scared them off?
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Noelle watches true crime documentaries featuring young victims and cries imagining they were her so she could have died at a younger age, to escape the pain of losing her sister, and avoid the pain of losing her father in the future and watching her mother fall apart
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Toby...
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noelle willingly got herself groomed with a twenty year old man online when she was seventeen and grew a unhealthy co dependent relationship with him and then tried killing herself after she got blocked because she got to old for him
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>>573662939
>thinks only one of them is going to die
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>Kris spared the KNIGHT! But its name wasn't YELLOW...
God fucking damn it I was hoping Yellow was the knight.
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>>573663917
ok you win
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>>573662258
I haven't actually picked up on anything like this or remember what she said about him but im on board for discussion of it. People have mined doelestation & kress from every possible angle seemingly mostly just from the raw and visceral potential of "interactions w your older brothers cool girlfriend" but seem to skip right over the potentials of "interactions w your older sisters dorkass (but probably you thibk hes cool cause you're like 7) boyfriend".. which isnt that bizarre really cause I figure less of the people here are interested in self inserting into that pov. But i cant imagine she didnt have significant feelings about asriel even if we're not ttalking romantic or sexual and itd be cool to see that eexplored

There was 1 girl I saw on Tumblr who ships them I can try and find again if you care
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Noelle laughs at youtube videos of rape victims discussing their trauma.
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>>573663798
some of this art isn't bad but I think I got actual ptsd from seeing all of the AU !s
the mew mew, muffet, and frisk aren't bad
i look forward to mr greg being based
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Noelle brushed her teeth for four minutes instead of five minutes like her mother told her to so she can feel like a gangsta.
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>>573663467
>>573663838
The problem I see is in Chapter 2: The Knight opens a fountain directly under Noelle, intending to pull her into the mess. This is the biggest problem with all motive theories, because I feel like NONE of the knight candidates would do this
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>>573663878
>>573663878
Wrong upload. Here's the start of the fucked up Moledesser greens.
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>>573663843
That one video of a komodo swallowing a baby doe whole and you can hear it bleating in the komodos stomach is her most watched video on her phone
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>>573663803
Piles of Asriel's dust...
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>>573663878
this is wholesome :( chara my dear...
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>>573663980
Who brushes their teeth for five minutes?
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>>573663957
she self insets and slinks off to the descriptions of what happens
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i still feel like this place is my internet home and you guys are awesome but i always feel kind of insecure and out of place when we have life situation discussions and i realize like 80% of you at least are more functional adults than i am. said uhhhh mettaton shut inside his house all day
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>>573662939
>>573663930
>Kris knows the prophecy
>It says the Cage is the only one who makes it to the end
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>>573663980
Noelle was diagnosed with receding gums at age 17
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>>573663579
I always believed in don quixote dess theory because I feel like it ties into the game's themes of escapism nicely, and also the idea that dess feels like such a misanthrope that an escapist fantasy for her is being a big bad evil guy and bringing about the end of the world hits me in the feels just a little bit
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>>573664029
Aqua covered in Asriel's dust
Asriel being turned into a clone of Aqua in the dark world
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fave took some pepto bismol for their stomach pain and fave's poop came out so black it spawned a dark fountain
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>>573663745
Then they would just open one million fountains immediately instead of being strategic
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>>573664118
nah people have a habit of only showing their positive sides online/face-to-face, don't worry. i've been a NEET for 10 years myself. i do think you should still strive to be better and improve yourself though...
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>>573664118
lol lmao lmfao kek lel lawl
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>>573664049
Nta but I had to actively train myself to brush each side (front, back, top) on each section (right, left, front) of my teeth for 5 seconds each because I used to brush them for way too long and it was probably fucking up my enamel
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>>573663969
Thanks, most of the art was done by my friends I only did the really shitty Sans

The series would be intended to be a love letter to the fandom as a whole (even though it doesn't deserve it) by having dumb/cringe/old/new AUs as background characters and plot devices instead of picking or choosing eras by having any fan creation ever be considered "canon" no matter how stupid
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>>573664049
Carol requires that everyone in her family have their gums smell like peppermint. Naturally Rudy and Dess pretend to listen but Noelle is so submissive that she never actually thought about not doing it.
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>>573664118
i'm on the opposite end
no matter what your circumstances are
we're still haunting each other, scaring each other, loving each other
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>>573663351
that would be funny.
funnier if spamton was your only option
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All of Susie's friends are suicidal but she's never noticed because jumping off a bridge just sounds like a fun afternoon to her
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>>573663176
The player is Kris's Gerson/Flowery
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>>573664236
>she kisses with tongue completely seriously to check
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>>573664261
cute. made me smile
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>>573664145
>that an escapist fantasy for her is being a big bad evil guy and bringing about the end of the world hits me in the feels just a little bit
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>>573664261
What would Susie say or do if she saw Kris's cuts
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>>573664118
I have a job and wish I was a neet I hate my boss
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>>573663878
jesus christ it feels like i haven’t read this one in a million years. what a classic. damn
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i wish i could fuck noel and the noel drawer sorry if you were the person i indirectly called a poon last thread and you got sad over that it wasnt my intention i was just venting fag bullshit y'know?
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>>573664118
That happens to me sometimes, especially at my church. Everyone there is really nice, but it's hard to form a bond because not only are most of them significantly older than me but I'm still a weirdo with no life experience and can't talk about sports
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>>573663987
maybe the knight's strat is to make Noelle become familiar with the dark worlds so that Noelle will be prepared once the rest of the plan comes into motion?
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I look like this. Who want me?
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>>573663987
also in the side B, kris doesn't seem to tip off the knight about noelle, and pretty much all the holidays would stop you from trying to manipulate her. At the very least carol wouldn't be so happy about you taking noelle to the festival if she knew about the soul.
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>>573664328
Pre game season would pretend not to notice, but will probably decide to pick on them less. If Susie saw them now, she probably would try to talk to Kris and try to see if she can help. Assuming she doesn't fail her perception roll and just think Kris is badass for being involved in knife duels or whatevers.
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>>573664190
i am trying it’s just tough out here being mentally 8 years old and fucked in the head up down left and right
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>>573664118
Dont worry im probably doing even worse than yoy are!!! Everyone is disappointed! If I were a better person I would kill myself but sadly I dont even want to die so I just live on like an asshole
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>>573664328
>Dude.... you really need to get a sheath for your knife.
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Carol Caller will be DEAD by Chapter 6 and cunnyham is gonna have a meltdown that it's bad writing and I'm gonna be laffin'
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>>573663987
>I feel like NONE of the knight candidates would do this
Noelle becomes stronger.
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>>573664369
you guys get attached to drawfags like baby ducks imprinting on the fire hydrant they hatched next to
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>>573664272
>"let me check those pearls, missy."
>*smuich mmmm sllrp mhmhm~ POP*
>noelle gasping
>"good girl. now get to school." *smeks her ass*

having to do this every morning, even on weekends... no wonder noelle wants freedom...
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>>573663908
HEROOOO
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>>573664283
do NOT allow this motherfucker and Jevil to be in the same room together
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>>573664497
you weren't groomed you wouldn't get it
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What is spawning all the noelleposting? I support it but im curious? Some seem oddly specific, is it stuff you did before or just your own visions..?
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>>573664497
I have nobody in real life. I have nothing.
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>>573664497
what should come after?
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>>573664272
>>573664518
And what's worse is that you have to do it like three times a day too. Carol kissing me sounds hot and all but I think I would actually get mad at a point.
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>>573664382
See, the thing is the fountain at the church could've been meant to trap the choir, which has Noelle AND Toriel in it. Then it would make sense that the Knight opened that one, but it's still such a strange motive for her parents or Kris or even Dess. I guess the potentially simplest explanation is that Carol is totally fine with playing out the prophecy with Noelle as The Girl? Which makes her the most likely candidate. But I can't imagine anyone else doing it. Kris never pulls Noelle into a fountain despite making so many, so Kris is definitely betraying someone by bringing Susie instead. But how do they not know?
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>>573664518
>Flowery coping a feel of Asgore's ass, like Rudy does
>Queen coping a feel of Noelle's ass, like Carol does
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>>573664583
Nta but Sometimes when I look at these threads Im just reminded that some of you are posting from a place of 100% molested. Now me im posting from a place of 3 quarters bullied 1 quarter molested so its a little bit of a different vibe.
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>>573664592
worms stage
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>>573664618
No, I just think about Noelle wishing she could have died in the past because the present and the future is terrifying and painful to her.
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>>573664689
>Ralsei coping a feel of the Player's ass, like- wait what the fuck how did yo
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>>573664118
You need some real friends thats no way to live
I realized I hang out in generals because I’m afraid of rejection and am a bit of an asshole. But I’m getting better now that I have relationships I put effort into. You can get better too.
Said napstablook
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>>573661986
https://files.catbox.moe/1bsgrj.png
No Shame.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-vR6jPZQM
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>>573663467
The Knight and Kris want to go "nowhere," outside the boundaries of the game. Everything else is in service of getting there.
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>>573664618
Noelle going through a bunch of banal horrors is funny.
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>>573664570
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>>573664790
hochi daddy
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>>573664790
>boowomp
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>>573664518
Sucks on her tongue too to make sure she scrubbed it too
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>>573664790
>If Wayne merged with the real Spamton G. Spamton
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>>573664710
oh you too? I had 1 bicurious guy pull my undies down and try to suck me in my sleep but mostly got bullied until I was 20 and I feel like I turned out fine for the most part.
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>>573664658
>which has Noelle AND Toriel in it
and Asriel (formerly)
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Would it kill you to describe your catbox before sending it?
>spamton fat fuck with his dick out
Is that so hard?
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Would it kill you to describe yourself before posting?
>spamton fat fuck with his dick out
Is that so hard?
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>>573664952
that's the surprise anon I wouldn't wanna spoil the surprise now would?
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Noelle handed Susie her phone, who then bought 250 dollars worth of Cookie Run gacha pulls
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>>573664790
It’s not loading I’m gonna kill myself someone just post it for me I’ll kiss you
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I will never have this...
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ターコちゃんにえっちなことしたい
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The image of Ralsei sucking on Noel's boy clit on the whiteboard is so fucking hot. I want a slutty ftm boyfriend so bad.
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>>573664952
https://files.catbox.moe/704g8u.mp4
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>>573664539
On a plastic horse

Fighting like it's real with a cardboard sword
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>>573664952
Learn to appreciate the thrill of an unlabeled catbox link and live a little.
https://static1.e621.net/data/2a/25/2a25c8506ab930fc1034b54352de4ffa.jpg
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>>573665029
Which one do you want to be?
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Aqua's taco...
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>>573664790
Yikes
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>>573664952
a wise man once said that life is like a box of chocolates
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>>573665072
I'm glad I save all of these silly videos
https://files.catbox.moe/l9r89y.webm
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>>573665094
Kris. I just really like the idea of being with a girl with shared interests to me but I doubt it'll happen
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>>573665147
Hot skinnyfat Seth
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>>573664952
It's like a gacha. The surprise is part of the fun!
https://files.catbox.moe/6gg36u.PNG
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>>573664658
well, obviously the knight can't do anything about susie being autistic over not letting Noelle know about the dark worlds for three days straight, and its not like Kris can rope noelle into the dark world by force because it'd raise some suspicions, i guess they could've asked Susie to bring her in, but considering the "Susie sacrifice" theory, they might not have wanted to risk Noelle getting sacrificed instead or that Noelle would catch onto kris and the knight's identity, hm. maybe Noelle is like an optional side objective where they do want her to go into the dark worlds and get used to em but its not like she's so important that they must get her in no matter what
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>>573665147
I need that penis in my mouth immediately
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>>573664952
https://files.catbox.moe/6lss4f.jpg
aqua's hot flower cunny and seth
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>>573665259
I came to terms with the fact that no woman will ever love me, especially one that shares my interests, a long time ago.
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>>573664118
Welcome home, anon.

It's okay to feel insecure. It hurts to compare ourselves to others. It's okay to still be figuring things out. You can take it one day at a time. You're here too, so you're one of those awesome people.

I'm rooting for ya!
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>>573664790
>>573665147
I imagine at least 75% of the thread looks like one of these two images.
And they are both beautiful.
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>>573665332
bro you're still just a little baby, don't worry
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>>573665349
thanks also imagining chara saying something like that while holding my hand makes me feel even better
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>>573665394
He's 46
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>>573665331
a wild limbab
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>>573663987
Dess Knight has an "everyone but me is a NPC" mindset like her sister does in the weird route, but worse because she got a peak behind the curtain and knows it's basically correct. So she opened the chapter 2 fountain while trying to be indifferent since Noelle is just lines of code and not her "sister," but her real feelings leaked out a bit and the dark world manifested as the city Dess wanted to show Noelle ruled by a Queen who loves Noelle. Just because you know it's not real doesn't mean you stop caring about it. Basically she was trying to be edgy and failed.
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>>573665430
and 2
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>>573665321
But then why is the fountain opened directly under her? She has to be the objective in Chapter 2. It also doesn't explain why there's 2 fountains in the church in Chapter 4, or why the knight risks unleashing a Titan. We clearly do not have enough info to know what they're even doing, let alone what their goals are
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I WANT MY TONGUE UP AQUA'S STINKY UNWASHED RECTUM
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>>573665430
I'm not.
>>573665394
If I could walk with other people, I would have by now. All that's left is a lifetime of failure and loneliness.
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>>573665448
reporting for duty
https://files.catbox.moe/b3j8hc.jpg
noelle and kris as shiomi and rien from limbus company
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>>573665378
I feel absolutely called out because that spamton one is pretty accurate to how I look irl
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raging homosexual men pine for spamtons unwashed dirty asshole. they'll fuck, suck, and blow their way downtown to get a piece of that little salesmans wretched pooterhole.
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>>573663531
I actually got my own take on this which is that Noelle starts self harming after seeing kris's own self harm scars. Im working on a comic of it. I think shed feel appeal from it at first for being so "out of character" ffor her and as a way of extrrbalizing her internal problems for once, breaking out of habits, but its also way too contained of an act its easily hidden and nothing changes and afafterwards shes able to go Gosh what was I thinking that was so silly of me! And then not do it again but probably have a vaguely reduced sense of sympathy for self harmers (it cant be that extreme if even i could be pushed to do it, geez..)

>>573663794
Frightening accuracy

>>573664689
My mom use to do this to me and now I relate to noelle so im gonna say this is just true
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>>573665430
and his pronouns are they/them
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>>573665331
I hope someone throws a rock at you
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twirling spamtons dirty unwashed asshairs around my fingers as i probe his little asshole with my tongue
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>>573665517
I found my NEET princess at like 26 years old and I've been with her for 12. You'll find someone.
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>>573665571
No it's okay anon, I'll jerk off to it later anyways

Keep at it, in a year you'll be really proud of your art, it's already really good, keep nurturing it
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>>573665549
Noelle is LITERALLY me here.
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>>573665571
>left: unobtainable manic pixie dream girl
>right: obtainable manic pixie dream boy with a stage 1 beer belly
>middle: aqua and friend
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>>573665476
See, that works for me, but then we don't have an explanation for other things, like the knight carrying Undyne and Asgore out into the lightworld. They need to have magic to carry Asgore, right? So it's more than just a lightner
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>>573665617
It's ok you have someone else to be looking after don't you?
https://files.catbox.moe/w8r2q9.jpg
five FRIENDs attacking spamton
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>>573665523
i didnt ask for more, you wench. now scram!
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Noelle lies in bed and stares at her ceiling for hours at a time.
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>>573665482
Sucking aquas gum directly out of her asshole and blowing bubbles with it
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>>573665776
While Susie is tonging her hairy asshole
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>>573665772
well they haven't finished their don piece yet but, no, I don't think I will
https://files.catbox.moe/s0lktk.jpg
more spamton
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>>573665860
Why are you niggas suddenly obsessed with assholes?
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>>573665741
How and why the fuck do you have so many of those, at this point it's a timebomb before we have some scat in the chat
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>>573665904
it's where shit comes from and i love eating shit and playing with it
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I think it would be best if Moot just deleted this general...
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So, where do you think our funny new friend is from?
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i like you, i am quite fond of your presence
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>>573665741
Im actually upset I really wanted spamton getting raped by friends. Please world if yoy have any sympathy left for me
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>>573665953
I don't think anyone has every really thought this about me, said fave.
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thank you but what the fuck happened to lobco
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>>573665947
i would just start deltachan
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>>573665717
I agree, but I don't think Dess Knight is a normal Lightner. I'm in the camp that takes the unused dialogue as a villain origin story. She got too close to the outskirts of her reality, got trapped there, it wore away at her psyche until she's only really a memory of who she used to be, and when she got out, her body became just as fucked up and "unreal" (hence the way it dissolves into static when it's damaged and can shapeshift.) I think one of the main points of chapter 5 was to make the audience start thinking about what something in between a Lightner and a Darkner would be, what it could be capable of, etc.
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>>573665947
who?
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>>573665953
Arigato anon, i like your presence too
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Kris would be a poise sinking ID
Susie would be tremor rupture
Ralsei would be sinking burn
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>>573665925
>How and why the fuck do you have so many of those, at this point it's a timebomb before we have some scat in the chat
oh don't worry I hate scat, ruins the fetish in my opinion
https://files.catbox.moe/cgjv1r.jpg
kris pissing themselves
>>573666003
well it's not rape, exactly
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>>573665147
you made them kinda have kara eklund vibes. this is a SUPREME compliment, imo
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>>573665947
/utg/ is one of the most active and dedicated parts of 4chan. you don't kill that kind of engagement.
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Why are you gaopsjssoowes sudoonfflriy ojisosp with aayupqins?
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"Undertale" and "Deltarune" general?
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>>573665904
Every few hours or so a random fetish is selected to be beamed directly into every /utg/ anons brain and we're all forced to post about it for a bit
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>>573666041
tlaltecuhtli the meximerican administrator that gave us breath
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Wanting to drink aquas nectar piss and chew her blue flavored (best flavour) asshole gum isn't weird. It's wholesome and pure
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do you guys wanna see something funny
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>>573666030
Didn't the ARG emails basically confirmed she is dead and buried?
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>>573663951
Well so far we don't know much of anything about how she feels about him. The only real clue is the way she almost always refers to him with the endearing nickname "Azzy", though that could just be something she picked up from Dess.

I think we'll probably learn more about this when she's properly introduced to Ralsei in CH6.
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>>573666098
More like "let's all rape floradins and keep them in our basements as breeding stock" general.
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>>573666098
When are we going to drop the Undertale and just be the Deltarune general. People are not gonna like what I have to say here but the Undertale part actively drags the thread down and makes it worse.
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>>573666098
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>>573665448
>>573665617
>>573665772
>>573665925
/utg/, observe the snowflake fragile /v/tards’ taste in unfunny anime reaction images
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>>573665947
Moot is long gone anon you're thinking of gookmoot
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>>573666104
for some reason this made me burst out laughing and it actually took me like 10 seconds to stop, I don't know why
thanks for that, anon, really
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>>573666152
No
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>>573666180
i'll kill you faggot
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>>573665904
random brain natural desires flaring up out of nowhere ig
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>>573666210
i'll hug you friend
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Do we like Kris (femme)?
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Buttstuff is a nice change of pace after all the weird stuff /utg/ has been getting into lately.
Enjoy the classics once in a while.
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>gaster grabbing random fetish vials to throw into /utg/ for a giggle
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>>573666090
I would put my tongue on this thing’s cloaca
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>>573666180
PAPYRUS IS STILL ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anybody ever think about how Deltarune is kinda like FNaF where the whole story is just about two families and their increasing supply of dead/missing children?
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>>573666230
ok now i feel bad. sorry undertale just holds an incredibly special place in my heart, as well as the undertale times of this thread. i have years of memories and content saved from that time, you can't just get rid of it... Deltarune is the spiritual sequel (at the very least!) anyway! also apparently tons of anons in here have never even played Undertale.
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>Azzy
>Dess
>Kris
>Suzy
>Noel
>Raly
Why did Toby give everyone four letter names? Homestuck influence?
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>>573666245
Kris would never wear anything interesting because it would remind them of getting raped. They've never actually been raped, they just have an irrational fear of it happening.
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>>573666187
actually we are /vg/ neighbours, so we share the same autism and retardation but for a different game
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what do i draw
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>>573666347
Being a gatchafag is worse
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>>573666329
>Tori
>Gori
Hmm
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>>573666329
It's a reference to Gege Akutami doing the same thing
>>573666317
That's what I like to hear
It's "UNDERTALE & DELTARUNE" general goddamn it
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>>573666385
Flowery in Hyperdeath form
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>>573666385
Your blade.
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>>573666303
tony and cawthon also both dragged a storyline out for 10 years
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>>573666385
fatass floradinn washed up on the beach like a whale
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>>573666347
do you still have the funny birds
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>>573666180
>>573666210
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>>573666090
If this thing were real I would pin it down by the neck forcing it's taint to be up in the air all for my taking. I would slowly slap my cock against it's small, shriveled up asshole. probing the tip in ever so slightly causing enough pleasure and pain for the creature. I would then brute force my cock deep, deep into it's tiny pathetic asshole as it yelps out in pain. "DAH! DAH! DAH!" and then fuck it's brains out until it's left a damp, wet, hot mess of my own spunk and it's fluids. while it's writhing in pain, I'll take a kitchen knife and hack at it's body until it draws it's last breath.
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The /dug/ thread!
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>>573666385
Noelle watching a car crash compilation.
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The cats fucking ate Dess....
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For me, it's Laddery
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It's a good thing /utg/ knows and gatekeeps, gaslights, girlbosses tobycore adjacent games and anime influences so we know who's actually a local around here.
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>>573666347
At least they are bluaka. THOSE guys are the WORST
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>>573666104
The anus is the most hidden and filthy part of a person, the part that no one wants exposed. But the more hidden it is, the sweeter and more exhilarating it becomes to uncover it, to force it into the sunlight. The sheer power and dominance you feel as you spread someone's buttocks while they are forced to expose the most vulnerable part of their body to you... There is nothing else like it.
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>>573666473
If you didn't upgrade Ralsei's ladder to Laddery your save is bricked by the way
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>>573664592
this makes me really happy, i've thought about making one of these sattou-type illustrations with Flowery and the 6 flowers on his shoulders more than anyone should, but i can't draw
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>>573666030
See, I think the Knight is not a Darkner or a Lightner either, but I don't think they're in between like Flowery. I think they're above Lightners in the layers of reality. They can use magic in the Lightworld because it's a step down from their reality, like how the Darkworlds are to Lightners.
Also I think Unused is Asriel, not Dess.
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>>573666436
I love you Spamton
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Yeah I thought the pippins were outside playing, out there ya' know, 'round the house.
And they was up at the slaughterhouse... nosin'
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>>573666245
given ralsei's and kris' trauma over self expression I think a really garish fashion style would actually fit them, kind of
>>573666429
the funny birds are mostly in the prequel games, but they might actually be relevant again come august, possibly! we love the funny birds though
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>>573666498
Aren't*
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If you didn't get the secret cutscene where Ralsei has his first hands-free orgasm your save is bricked.
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>>573666503
so if i call you an asshole is that a compliment
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>>573666491
i love lost maria
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>>573666519
Rare sattou-knower
Elite ball knowledge
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>>573666436
I felt funny reading this
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>>573666152
How was this confirmed? The speculation that "you'll see her once and move on" was about Dess's corpse? The speculation that we know wasn't correct because we saw what the weird route was?
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Fact: Pink completly made up the Cat story on the spot just to scare Kris.

Just like how Toriel pretended Asgore was a bloodthirsty coldhearted childkiller in Undertale
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my thing went up
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>>573666628
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>>573666558
Anon everyone sees that cutscene. When Ralsei goes flat, you step on him, and it makes a SPLORT sound in his pants
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>>573666628
What Kris said after seeing Dess for the first time.
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>>573666628
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can a draw friend draw noelle cutting herself
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I want to suck on t enlarged ftm boy clit so bad you guys. I just want to go hog wild on that thing. How do I achieve this?
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>>573666385
The cliff shop but with Kris holding Mew Mew hand while watching the sunset
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Can a draw friend draw Noelle cutting herself a piece of her birthday cake?
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>>573666473
That's a step-Laddery though?
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>>573664261
felt inspired
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>>573666716
People have been saying this for a couple generals but does that actually happen
I have not heard about it outside of here
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>>573666747
and then her wrists when she's alone when it s all over
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>>573666687
Heh.. I was already working on that! Just for you anon, ill speed it up
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>>573666628
your thing is getting stuck in the ceiling
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>>573666187
PMfags are our friends
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>>573666436
i’m becoming concerned that getting horny for tennaanimals isn’t a joke anymore
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>>573666559
No you fucking dumbass. Now lift your butt up.
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>>573666798
??!???!!!!??!?!?!??
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>>573666628
The penith rises
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>>573666797
How are her wrists cutting themselves pieces of birthday cake, and how are her wrists alone when they have each other?
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>The game directly disproved RudyKnight
Fandom: Wow! It's a proof that Rudy is the Knight!
>The game stated a fact that throws wrench
Fandom: Wow! I wasn't a fan of DessKnight before, but I am now!
>The game says to your face that FRIEND is important
Fandom: Wow! FRIEND is not important!
Is Deltarune fandom terminally retarded? If I was Toby, I would give up on the current fandom and hope that the next generation to play the game wouldn't be as retarded
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How would Azzy react seeing his beautiful enby girlfriend, Chara, getting railed by Kris?
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>>573664592
I need to know who drew this
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how the FUCK Do I get over hormonal blues masturbating does nothing anymore
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>>573666908
AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME. YOUR EGGS BOYFRIEND
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>>573666687
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>>573666814
>He thinks any fetish posting here is ironic
poor sweet naive anon
>>573666908
probably happy his weird little brother is getting to fuck
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>>573666104
when's it my turn on the fetish roulette
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Thoughts on the "Dess was a human" theory?
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>>573666901
*The game stated a fact that throws a wrench on DessKnight
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>>573666908
he'd join in
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>>573667042
I don't know but wow that noelle looks a little out of it
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>>573667050
Which fact faggot.
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>>573666960
zzinddacom on xitter
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Howdy, I'm the Fact Faggot!
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>>573667085
BlackShard on the scene of original DarkWorld from years ago
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>>573667091
i love you
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>>573667042
Dess wasn't a human but she wanted to be one
And she is one now
at least a grey replication of one
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>>573667127
Hey buddy, can you verify what the eggs taste like?
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heya, im the false faggot
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>>573667136
Literally how does that throw a wrench into things? Black shards are guitar picks. It's Dess's.
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>>573667042
for everyone to know dess was human but never mention it to kris who feels species dysphoric would be shit writing plus dess is represented as a black deer in the glaceir game.
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>>573666787
Heh
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itd be so cool if we got to equip the roaring knight's armor after killing him
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>>573667221
black shards and the shit from the gumball machine aren't the same thing
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>>573667164
when are we getting married
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Did you know humans are forbidden from living in hometown?
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>>573667209
Hey there pal, would you say Fact Faggot always gives out facts?
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>>573667042
What if Dess was a human with a soul and the soul merged with Kris which mean WE ARE DESS
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>>573667257
I also noticed someone uploaded Deltalore to e621.
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>>573666787
Canon interaction.
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>>573667304
idk
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>>573667221
...You think Dess wears armor and a weapon that's made from loose collection of guitar picks? Do you even hear how you sound?
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>>573667042
I think it contradicts evidence from both Undertale and Deltarune and it mostly comes from people just wanting there to be a female human in the game regardless of logic.
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Did you know that my lizard is snuggled up on my shoulder while I’m browsing /utg/?
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>>573667261
They're not literally called the same thing but considering you get it before the fight with the roaring knight it would be weird for the game to go "You got some kinda... BLACK SHARD" rather than what it actually does in describing what it looks and feels like, and then actually giving you the item and its name later
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>>573667269
11 hours or 11 years. stay safe until then
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>>573667357
scale mail,,,sword
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My worst fear is ERAM is the final boss of Deltarune. No Gaster, no nothing. It's some chucklefuck that was barely implied.
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>>573667386
what kind of lizard?
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What if I stroked the tip of my peen with my brother's used sock until pre came out
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>>573667136
I already believed in a cyclical prophecy before chapter 5 so that just reinforced it for me
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>>573667386
this you?
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>>573667447
>no gaster
>just some chucklefuck who was barely implied
how do we tell him
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>>573667363
We already have Orange as a female human, tho
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>>573667136
That's not a wrench, that just means that's the latest she could've become the knight, or there was a knight before Dess whose role she took. There's no problem with that bit
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>the notes prove that the knight existed before because umm a black shard was left where dess vanished
Or the knight is just dess's dark world form. Remember we get the black shard when we "beat" the knight, so whatever happened to the knight back then, they lost.
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>>573667470
une vie à t'aimer...
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>>573666789
Does what actually happen?
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>>573667447
The final boss of Deltarune is (You) vs. the Fun Gang and they use the Franklin Badge to deflect your Banish ACT back onto you
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>>573667483
Orange will never be a human
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>>573667520
There was a black shard in the computer room, so leaving a shard doesn't even require that she lose. It just means she either already was the knight or that's the time when she became it. It's really not a contradiction at all so idk why anons bring it up like it is
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>>573667448
Alphys lizard, his beard is full of yaoi
>>573667470
This is how it feels
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>The Flowers don't represent the Dreemurrs and Holidays
>Chapter 5 actually disproved Reverse UT theory it was all just pattern slop
How do you argue against retards like this who refuse to see any deeper themes in Toby's works and analyze everything on a purely surface level.
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>>573667510
Let's get this straight. Roaring Knight leaves BlackShards behind whenever it opens fountains. Dess stumbled into Dark World, got trapped there, and then somehow traveled backwards in time to somehow open a Dark Fountain which she will be trapped in?..
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who up riding the board
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>>573667557
T enlarging ftm clits
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>>573667680
That can't be true because we dont find shards in the closet, the computer rooms second opening, or the church.
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>>573667625
Shut up, Ralsei
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>>573667664
I join them because they're right.
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>>573667776
We don't find shards in the computer lab, either. And yet it was there.
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>>573667703
Oh yeah that happens, have you never watched any ftm porn?
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Goated
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>>573667680
Anon, why do you think Dess got trapped in a Darkworld? You made that up. Dess became the Knight and abandoned the Light World. That's what makes her lost. She didn't travel back in time, she did it back then

>>573667776
The Knight has only opened fountains in the computer room and the church so far, and Asgore hasn't checked the church yet because he just got done documenting his find in the library's computer room
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>>573667664
You just have to accept that Toby does not give a fuck about patterns. He would do it if it's viable, but will discard it on the first sign that it does not make sense gameplay/story-wise. Which is good.
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>>573667664
I don't even understand why some people dislike reverse UT theory so much that they're desperate for it be debunked. It's mostly about aesthetic elements and cute callbacks like the telescope in chapter 4, it has no real bearing on anything, it's just a fun easter egg if you notice it.
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>>573667772
the duality of janeathan mantel is very important to me
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>>573667664
Who in the Holiday or Dreemurr household is orange supposed to be?
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what deltarune ended like the sopranos and it cut to a black screen
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When you draw a figure, do you already have an idea of what the character will be before putting pen to page or do you draw and then figure out as you go what character you want it to be?

I'm asking for a friend.
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>>573667971
You think Kris opened up the fountain in the school?
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>>573667772
You are getting neither of these, it's Evil Ralsei
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>>573667971
>Dess became the Knight
Where? In the Light World? Or you postulate there was a zeroth Dark World before the first Dark World, that somehow got closed without a red soul?
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>>573667772
>>573668005
Jane is an objectively better character than other ERAM interpretationos
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test
testtest
tests
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>>573668078
The card kingdom one from Chapter 1? Yeah
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>>573668038
I would actually really respect something like that. It would make AU creation go fucking bonkers while everyone can't exactly hate but neither like the ending.
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>>573667991
I don't hate it? I just think people looking for patterns in everything end up missing the actual content of the game. The other theory is a bigger problem for me. Darkners are their own people, especially the flowers. Retards who try to pattern-match them to Lightners are shitting on their characterization. Flowery is not Rudy because he doesn't know enough about Rudy, he just knows Asgore's college stories and dad rock. If he could pretend to be Rudy he would because his goal is to save the Flower Man
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>>573668113
just highlight text and use control + S anon
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if dess was a human why was she in the underground in undertaleeeeeeee
did asgore just think she was cool and leave her alone
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>>573668112
Toby gave Janefags Aqua as an apology because the Mantle holder is male
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>>573668163
>while everyone can't exactly hate
anon toby would have to look out for what's rest of his hands if he made that the ending
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>>573668093
Do we know for a fact we need specially the red soul to close it? Like is Kris really the only person capable of doing so or do we think that because they're the only one doing that? We know Kris needs the soul to go into dark worlds but nobody else does, and we know Kris needs to take it out in order to create a dark world, which susie and presumably any other monst could do if they wanted to and knew how
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>>573668195
He's a phoneposter
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is carol autistic
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>>573668112
I saved a bunch of magical girl ERAMs shortly after chapters 4 and 5 came out and now they all look like Mew Mew foreshadowing
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>>573666458
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>>573668264
Where does this idea come from?
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https://files.catbox.moe/f5p1qq.mp4
this will make sense when chapter 7 drops. all will be clear
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>>573668264
I could believe it. I have known high functioning girls who are cold, harsh people like that.
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>>573668219
ok but we could use both of them
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Watch The Knight be something gay, like the town's collective consience or something....
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>>573663467
But the Knight is Kris' original Soul so they just want their body back, simple as.
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>>573668039
i see the image in my mind, and execute it
drawing memes/joke images has done wonders for my line confidence
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>>573668303
distance
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It's kinda funny that no one other than Kris and Susie stumbled into CastleTown since the start of the game. It's a big ass door smackdab in the middle of the hallway where they put the school supplies like chalks and stuff in there, you'd think at least the school janitor would have gone in there by accident or something.
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>>573668239
We know that the Red SOUL is absolutely needed for The Roaring stuff, but I suppose Susie could theoretically close weak dark fountains like the First Sanctuary. Not sure if there was any hopeful person like Susie back then, tho.
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Can someone draw the Fun Gang as Billy, Mandy, and Grim?
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>>573668368
>the town wants the two local trouble makers, Kris and Susie, fucking dead
>>they probably did that to Dess too when she was fucking things up
This would be too funny to actually be the case
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>>573668337
MORTIS
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>>573668218
Asgore is actually the smallest issue with Human Dess in Undertale because you actually could just say he didn't want to kill her
Flowey is what makes it impossible
He's killed everyone in the Underground at least once so he would've killed Dess and taken her soul but he didn't
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https://files.catbox.moe/iro0a8.mp4
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>>573668169
>Darkners are their own people, especially the flowers.
The flowers literally aren't Darkners
>If he could pretend to be Rudy he would because his goal is to save the Flower Man
Yes, that's what he's doing! The flowers consciously chose their appearances because they're all shapeshifters. Flowery consciously chose to imitate Rudy based on what he knows of him from Asgore, and the other flowers are also imitating Asgore's perception of his loved ones from before the incident, because they're trying to fill that hole in his life and make him happy again.
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>>573668424
I don't think the school has a janitor. It's probably a Japan situation where the kids have to clean up and Susie's taken over all closet and cleanup related duties to ensure nobody finds out about the secret closet
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Jarona
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>>573668093
I don't understand why you think that's so strange. She clearly did something forbidden in the Bunker, like opening multiple fountains inside one another. Whatever the case might be she lost a shard or someone who escaped carried a shard out with them. Imo the evidence points at Dess, Kris and Asriel having visited Dark Worlds before, not just the one in the Bunker. If they couldn't close them then they must be in hidden or inaccessible locations, or normal people can't reach them. If they did close them then they did it with Kris' original human soul.

>>573668078
The pure fountain, I have no idea. The Card Kingdom in Gerson's old classroom was definitely Kris' creation, absolutely. It might even have been to set up Chapter 1 in the first place
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Ralsei will kiss Susie on the mouth.
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>Deltarune fandom when the final boss isn't an ARG character from a 13 year old game
I think you overthink things. Sometimes you have to get into the mind of someone, possibly a kid, playing Deltarune for the first time. It's not narratively satisfying if the final boss is somebody never brought up before, or someone who's appearance is easily missable.
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>>573668018
Noelle
>small, weak, notably seems younger than the other flowers like Aqua does
>cries to her big sister and her mother-like figure when she gets "bullied"
>mouse because of Noelle's frequent fixation on cheese
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>>573668424
Ralsei is the Prince of Darkness, he (presumably) controls darkness of his own fountain. He could forcibly make darkness retreat into a dark corner whenever Alphys or Toriel approaches.
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>>573668632
>It's not narratively satisfying if the final boss is somebody never brought up before, or someone who's appearance is easily missable
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>>573668303
Every woman on Earth is Autistic now.
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>>573668632
Are you a purple hippo by any chance?
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>>573668424
Toriel makes sure no one goes in there
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>>573668720
anon asriel is the very first character you are forced to see in undertale and then you see him talked about a few more times
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>>573668616
I think a very flustered ralsei that wants to kiss susie and does a peck on the cheek before immediately making a scared pouty face crying and running away because he thinks it's wrong would be a good scene to watch
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>>573668735
Fate worse than fucking death
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>>573668615
All I could think about during this scene was how defenseless and fuckable Alphys looked. Imagine her spinning around and then gasping in fear when she sees your cock springing out of your pants.
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>>573668809
Who do we speak with at the beginning of Deltarune?
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>>573668720
New home and secret lab
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>>573668809
>anon asriel is the very first character you are forced to see in undertale and then you see him talked about a few more times
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>>573668632
But we meet Ralsei in the first chapter?
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>>573668424
>>573668514
>>573668698
Or it's a "Wouldn't it be funny to surprise Asriel at his dorm... Kris? Haha" situation and nobody other than Susie and (Us) are allowed to 'path' to the door.
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>>573668829
Anon, nothing changed. Every minor social problem is now Autism.
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>>573668720
Flowey is literally the first character you meet and pops up multiple times. Gaster, ERAM or Friend would make no sense to the casual player.
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>>573668889
That's a big fork. What's he eating?
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>all these secret conversations Kris and Ralsei are having without us around
They're doing this on PURPOSE. Why do they want to keep us in the dark? Do they not trust us?
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>>573668867
Who's this talking then? Gaster?
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>>573668924
Onion
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>Ralsei is Asriel
>Susie is Dess
shiiiieeeeet.....
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>>573668873
No one except those who were in the Dark World previously. I bet Berdly will stumble upon Castle Town or something. Violent route certainly hints at it.
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Honestly I fucking hate the people who obsess about motifs because the more you hear from them you realize they're fucking stupid. They only hear the "motif" if it's the exact melody, if it's subtle like it is in Black Knife they straight up say it isn't there. People like this wouldn't be able to pick up on the Spider Dance/Ghost Fight thing if somebody hadn't told them. People have actually gotten even stupider between Undertale and Deltarune, which I didn't think was possible.
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>>573668632
>It's not narratively satisfying if the final boss is somebody never brought up before
There's a lot of JRPGs where you fight some random god or alien at the end that doesn't come up beforehand or that's only mentioned in side content
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>>573668947
Johnathan Deltarune
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>>573668953
Fuck you
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Deltarune is about the evils of circumcision.
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>>573668868
> :O <= Streamers' face when they're railroaded into Bad End because they chose "be mean to Ralsei" dialogue options for the funnies
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Deltarune has 109 unique endings, each of which has at least 3 hours of entirely original content
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wait you mean to tell me the fucking arg character who only existed to tease deltarune only existed to tease deltarune
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>>573668698
>Ralsei is the Prince of Darkness
Why do I keep seeing people assert this as fact here? Ralsei is never once referred to as "Prince of Darkness," he's only ever called A prince FROM the (deepest) dark.
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>>573668980
Motif is an artistic thing. It was never supposed to be about plot or lore, it's about mood and feelings. Those videobloggers miss the point.
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>>573669172
Funny to see people get genuinely pissed the frick off for nubert and his gang to have a freedom motifa
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>>573669070
>streamers giving a fuck about any of this when they get free money for acting retarded for others
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sometimes when i take a handful of balogna from the container in my fridge and eat it with no bread like an animal I wonder if kris would do the same
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>>573669172
>>573669226
the trash sqquad wanted their own freedom, to not be 1-bit joke characters
now they're a real fight, and a hard one too, compared to most
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>>573669301
Susie…
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>>573668169
>Retards who try to pattern-match them to Lightners are shitting on their characterization. Flowery is not Rudy because he doesn't know enough about Rudy
You are a low functioning autist who should just goon to the characters he likes and not get involved in any actual discussion about the themes or plot.
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>>573669301
I do this, but with slices of cheese
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>>573669160
Flowery hints on Ralsei's true Power Level, that's why people think Ralsei is an actual ruler, not just an empty title. SOUL have most HOPE (light). It's only logical that Ralsei have most DREAMS (darkness).
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All this shit reminds me of Halo with Mendicant Bias, a completely missable character who also lore drops and knows who you are. He's also responsible for the galaxy being as fucked as it is. From an autist perspective he should be the big bad at the end of Halo 3, but as important as he is to the lore and being unequivocally a fucking evil schizophrenic he doesn't need to be an ingame force to face.
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>>573669160
you literally just explained why
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>>573669343
the confidence with which people in this fandom say shit is never not astounding

>green is carol cuz uhhhhh duhhhhhh
>if you disagree you're wetawded not me!!!!!
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>>573669046
Noelle drinking the lake and burping so loud it shatters all the glass in Hometown
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>>573669343
ah yes, themes and such
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>>573669347
bro..... if we kissed we'd make half a sandwich......
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>>573668984
It's not good in those games either.
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>>573669420
>umm this thing isn't true because....ummmm i just don't like it
great argument from you.
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The roaring family appears
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>>573669478
no go on. explain how how the harsh matriarch of the town is similar to the mute green chef
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>>573669420
That's how Asgore views her bro. Says nothing, brings him food and demands money from his flower shop earnings.
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Susie spent four hours arguing about whether superman could beat goku.
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https://youtu.be/7NlgcdpQwaAHlFEtNUnZbicsXVt
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>>573669495
Hell yeah, monoknight theorists can't have this!
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>>573669453
necron's NOT random
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>>573669514
even if i do you'll just deny it so i'm gonna save both our time and not bother. just go back to gooning to your fave lil pup and let the adults talk about the other stuff.
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Kris we are blackface
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>>573669517
in the very previous chapter he saw her flip out on susie
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>>573669343
Flowery is his own fucking character with his own fucking dream. The game is fucking screaming at you to take him at his word, to take him seriously. You instead retreat into your braindead delusion that Queen is Carol drawn from Noelle's memories of her neglect and also Green is Carol, and Orange is Noelle because she's small like a mouse. It's fucking pathetic. I hope the game's final 2 chapters teach you a lesson but I doubt you'll be able to learn it
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>>573669395
If eggs give you access to Gaster NPC (not a boss), I would be genuinely upset. I would have to replay the whole thing from Chapter 1...
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>>573669601
>black noelle
I never thought I wanted this until now
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>>573669596
if you're not going to participate when asked, can you at least stop calling others retarded for not playing pretend with you?

>no retard u're a gooner!!
ok 14 year old on twitter
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>shards stay the same outside of the dark world
>Shard comes from the knights sword which appears to grow out of its body
How do we know the knight doesn't just stay the same when it leaves a fountain anyways?
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>>573669514
Kris sliced Asriel's neck when he was a toddler. Asriel have been mute ever since.
And Asriel always was kind.
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>>573669695
It probably does, with the caveat that it can't survive very long in the light.
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>>573669695
We now know they probably have to, otherwise they couldn't carry Asgore to the Bunker. At least I assume they traveled in the Light World because they did in Chapter 3
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>>573669710
yeah that sounds true
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What happens to semen in a Dark World?
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>>573669623
why does the truth make you so angry? are you that scared of being wrong? just because flowery is patterned after rudy it doesn't mean that he's just a carbon copy, obviously he's his own character as well, he just shares traits with rudy. to deny what's right in front of your face like this and get mad about it is so weird.
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>>573669757
RUDY
RUDYY
RUDYYY
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>>573669695
That's what I've been saying. The Knight hauls Undyne's beefy fish body from the Dreemurr house all the way to the Shelter and Susie could barely keep up. The Knight laughs when Susie tries to call their bluff when she says the Knight isn't powerful in the Light World.
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>>573669623
Why both can't be true? They're somewhat "based" on Lightners, but they are their own characters that are different.
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>>573669710
Dess is Seth, because she is trans, a pedophile and a glass-wearing fucking nerd loser
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>>573669419
But there's an obvious difference between being the singular Prince of Darkness who rules all dark worlds or whatever and just being a prince from the dark.
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Guys I have a theory that the flowers from chapter 5 are based on the six souls from Undertale. This is hinted at subtly by their items in the pink coin shop.
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>>573669679
no i will still call you a retard for deliberately ignoring obvious parallels and make fun of you for it. i don't have to waste my time playing your silly little game where you pretend to be interested in what i have to say when we both know you've already made your mind up.
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>>573669852
no sorry the Flowers are actually The Townsfolk and if you ask me to explain why, i'm going to call you a gooner
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ULTIMATE DELTARUNE ENDING THEORY:
Hometown and the world outside of it isn't real, but in the ending (You) use (You)r power to make it real and it will have been real all along when (You) do because of quantum physics or some shit
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>>573669832
>The Knight laughs when Susie tries to call their bluff when she says the Knight isn't powerful in the Light World.
The knight is probably much weaker in the light world. It's strong enough to kidnap people, but it would probably die if it stayed out of the dark for too long. It's like it has to hold it's breath while outside of a dark world; as long as it isn't in the light for too long, it's still very strong.
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>>573669884
>i have a theory
>what about this hole in the theory
>WELL I WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT PART BECAUSE YOU THINK IT PROVES MY THEORY WRONG

ok. and you have the gall to ask other anons why they're mad and afraid of being wrong? grow up, anon. christ on a christmas cracker.

you know you fucking STARTED this by calling everyone retarded, right? and you expect everyone to treat you kindly and listen nicely? are you actually retarded?
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>>573669832
this also combined with the fact that the knights body is completely fucked up no normal person can just swap their body structure like that
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>>573669695
they casually walk into the computer lab and the church to make fountains so its just someone in the town. It's also someone that would be very obvious to us if we saw their face, which is why kris tries really hard to imagine jockington under the knight's helmet when we make them think about the knight.
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>>573669890
if you genuinely thought that i would've been interested in hearing your reasoning but we both know you're actually just seething because you're an autist who can't engage with art.
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>>573669796
He's not patterned you braindead retard. He's TRYING to be Asgore's college memories personified. He's shaping himself and his entire persona with the purpose of achieving his dream of making what he thinks Asgore's dream is real. He's not a Wizard of Oz cartoon of another person. He's not even a Darkner made out of imagination juice for you to make these retarded arguments that have plagued this fandom since Chapter fucking 1. You faggots will never make your shit specific enough to be fasifiable, so you'll drag this corpse of a theory all the way to the fucking end of the game, and every single character that gets introduced will be part of your conspiracy board horoscope bullshit
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I have my mortgage on Rudy Knight
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If I were in possession of a currently undumped undertale doujin, how would I go about dumping the pages? I would like to preserve the book itself so tearing it any way is out of the question
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Flowery purposefully fulfills traits/roles of Rudy (college friend), Asriel (Asgore mentions skateboarding with Azzy, Flowery rides in with one, plus Undertale references obviously), and Toriel (explicitly says he wants to replace Toriel for Asgore) because these are people Asgore really loves, and Flowery is a plant not a Lightner, and thus does not understand that these are 3 different types of love and Asgore will not be happy being loved this way so intensely. He wanted to show Asgore a dream that can hold a candle to the decade+ of love Asgore gave his flower form, not be an independent human. His entire existence relies on Asgore's happiness. All the flowers knew they only had a short while to live, that's why they thank you at the end rather than act shocked they're dying. Let all play the game....okay?
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>>573670053
Scan, zip file, dump on catbox or something for us to download
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>>573670023
And I got mine on Dess Knight, looks like we're both in the clear
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I have my mortgage on uhhh let me check actually...
Kris Knight!? Wuh oh
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>love finds it way to the girl
Noelle/Susie is going to get Kris's original soul.
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>>573669965
what hole in the theory? that flowery is his own character? that doesn't poke any holes in my position retard. i'm not gonna waste my time spoonfeeding you all the evidence because you're obviously a retard acting in bad faith who will ignore it. why waste my time doing that? i don't think i will actually. cry more about it. you have no position of your own except for just being mad that i believe in an idea you don't agree with.
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I betting on red, and red is amalgam knight NIGGA
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>>573670153
You're still good if you beat the Knight in Chapter 3 because Kris gets knighted
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>>573669841
Maybe he's a prince because he's just a candidate for a ruler, not a ruling ruler.
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>>573668485
i didn't even think about that but you're so right
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>>573669834
Because nothing in the game has ever even remotely implied a connection and it's against the themes of the game for Darkners to be copies of Lightners. People just get high on their own farts with shit like "Queen is a pretend-mother so she's Noelle's Mom and Toriel and...". Not every archetype or concept with something in common is a magical parallel connection that means they were created on the basis of someone else in the story
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>>573670094
Would a phonescan work as well? I can get my hands on an iPhone if that provides best quality then [I just have to wait for the damn book to come in the mail from Japan, it involves asgore]
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>>573670153
>Kris Knight
It's called Kriselle Knight now and it's Kris with Noelle shit attached to them
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>>573670009
>a Wizard of Oz
Oh you're that retard LMAO this explains everything.
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Are you guys incapable of understanding that a character can have similarities to multiple other ones at once
Do you think Ralsei is solely based on Asriel and that Susie saying he reminds her of Kris's mom, his affinity for baking, the way his hands clasp behind his back in the same way as Toriel's do in front of her all mean nothing
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>>573670219
>Would a phonescan work as well?
I just know about dedicated scanners. Most modern printers will have the function
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>>573670214
>and it's against the themes of the game for Darkners to be copies of Lightners
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>>573670293
Anon, that's not a darkner...
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describe your fave with a fesh pince quote
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>>573670332
Flowers aren't darkners.
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>>573670271
Nothing means anything it's just stuff that happens and Toby hates me
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>>573670053
Sadpanda
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>>573670361
>Keep my wife out your fucking mouth!
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>>573670361
>wants to empty the banks, fill our streets with banks, and run a bank-making operation out of his banks
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>>573670271
no man *snrk* the flowers are seriously the townspeople. because rudy and flowery both wear sweaters and like asgore *kehehe*

and green is carol because they both make food!!! *slaps knee*
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>>573670272
I say phone cuz currently I don't possess a scanner, and I'm far too terrified to go to a local office depot to scan asgore/adult femfrisk porn
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>>573661947
ONCE MORE,
GREETINGS.

I HOPE YOU ALL LOOK FORWARD
TO MY COMING ARRIVAL.
BUT I ASK ONE THING.
IF THE DOG DOES NOT END
MY DELTARUNE
WITH A KICKASS BOSS FIGHT AGAINST ME,
DESTROY THIS GAME'S LEGACY WITH UPMOST EFFORT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
I LOOK FORWARD
TO SLAPPING YOUR SHIT.
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>>573670361
>He was only human, but yes he was chicken and waffles
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>>573670073
I agree AND the other flowers are also trying to mimic Asgore's happy memories of his family from before the incident ruined everything, because they want to make him happy for the same reasons as Flowery does. People keep arguing as if the parallels mean the flowers can't be their own characters when the parallels are the result of their shared character motivation of reminding Asgore of the good times. That's the whole reason we see him dramatically shirking them while he fixates on the documents, they tried to fill those roles to make him happy, but he just did the same thing he did to their "real counterparts." They still have their own unique personalities beyond the parallels, the parallels are simply part of their shared dream to be there for Asgore after he lost everything.
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>>573670271
Having similarities is not what's being argued here. This faggot thinks 2 characters having 1 thing in common means character introduced second is now directly based on character introduced first and that is their theory. That these similarities are intentional clues. That Aqua the flower is literally young Kris and that means Kris was born a girl and played with knives.
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>>573670440
>too terrified to go to a local office depot to scan asgore/adult femfrisk porn
kek
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>>573670491
that last part is actually pretty solid though
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>>573670487
bro PLEASE stop mentioning the parallels, my stomach hurts
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>>573670271
Yeah the similarities between Rudy and Flowery's sprites is just an accident. Toby didn't even notice himself. People are such schizos.
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>>573670436
Kris is obviously a girl
Asriel is non-binary
Noelle is a rat
Dess is trans species
Toriel is a man
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>>573670491
>There's no way that Kris (known to have a knife) has anything whatsoever to do with Aqua because she has a knife and Kris would never have a knife
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>Um actually Queen isn't based on Carol she's based on a computer
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>>573670202
He's a prince because he's subordinate to (You), the monarch of Castle Town
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>>573670487
That argument doesn't work for Orange, tho. She wants to be brave for Asgore, not cute.
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>>573670361
>your first short story and your first short story in the same room
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>>573668485
The entire Holiday family died before Asriel was even born
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>>573670536
>he actually highlighted a 4 pixel smile on both sprites
oh my goddddddddd

what's the rest of the flowers, anon? i can't wait to hear this.
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>>573670361
"I think you've been deprived of oxygen at birth."
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>>573670487
Idk why this surface level story beat is being debated here, on Xitter, or on the wiki, because people are scared of something Freudian?
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>>573670502
Lovely picture of an upstanding scientist with his friendly, beloved cat.
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>>573670560
she's based on my aunt
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>>573670602
Nice try but the only reason we even know they canonically exist in UT is from Asgore talking about them post-pacifist, specifying Carol, Noelle and Dess (not Rudy though) are all alive
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>>573670536
It also means nothing that Rudy is Asgore's college roommate and Flowery introduces himself as Asgore's college roommate
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>>573670536
>the Knight has no feet
>Jockington has no feet

Jockington is the Knight?
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>>573670606
>ignored the hand in the pocket and hair
lmao lol that scared huh
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>>573670560
Queen is a concept of a "Mother". That conceptual existence isn't "based" on anyone, it will completely depend on whom she meets. It's possible because it's a dark world.
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Asgore and his family and friends are 90% of what the Flowers know about the world and the remaining 10% is cowboy shows, bedtime stories and Berdly for some reason so it'd be stranger if they didn't pick up a lot of their traits
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>>573670491
>and played with knives.
Noelle literally says the knife you get from Aqua is nostalgic presumably because it reminds her of Kris.
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>>573670617
FREUDIAN LMAO

YEAH THE FLOWERS BEING THE TOWNSPEOPLE IS FREUDIAN OH MAN

I SHOULD'VE HEARD YOU GUYS OUT A LONG TIME AGO

>>573670662
yeah dude nobody else in these games has their hands in their pockets

the hair isn't even close to the same you just highlighted it anyway it's so fucking funny
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>>573670556
There were 2 humans with knives in the Underground in Undertale. The Toy Knife and the Worn Dagger. Do you think these two characters were deeply connected?
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>>573670602
no? Asgore said he’s happy Rudy’s children can see the surface
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Did I just walk into the Disingenuous-Off Contest
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I love how he had so much presence and aura on the demos release and is now completely forgotten about.
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>>573670723
So you think that Kris is Chara?
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>>573670712
Someone using Asriel/Flowey's flower body, animations, and acting like Asgore's wife is Freudian. Leave this discussion for the adults, chibi.
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>>573670756
wowie it’s like I’m back on /funkg/
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Aqua isnt Kris because Aqua is a girl and Kris has a penis
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>>573670491
Yes on that last part cause it's cute
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Kris = Aqua
Asriel = Seth
Orange = Noelle
Green = Carol (Asgore makes shit up that she is a good person)
Yellow = Asgore
Blue = Toriel
Flowery = Rudy
Pink = Dess

BOOM
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>>573670783
he will have his moment, and then probably die right after.
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>>573670818
Asgore thinks that all human woman have penises because of one confusing experience he had in college.
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Aqua can be metaphorical child Kris without confirming Kris is female because Lancer is also metaphorical child Kris
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>>573670636
I miss that drawanon
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>>573670795
Answer the question.
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>>573670795
I mean they are Toriel and Asgore's adopted human children so yeah probably.
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Aqua being a girl means Kris is a girl because femKris gets me hard
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>>573670723
we see kris depicted as cyan
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Asriel is trans......
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>>573670712
>the sprites aren't 1 to 1 so the similarities don't exist
how autistic are you? do you have a diagnosis?
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>>573670567
Noelle was a crybaby who wanted to be braver than she was as a kid and we got a few implications that she used to pick on Kris and play victim the same way Orange picks on the party and plays victim in this chapter
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>>573670952
And what other colors do we see in that scene? They better not contradict your other flower:lightner connections anon.
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>>573670834
>Toriel is a 6'3" black man
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Everything start making sense if we consider IRL people as Lightners, too. The entire fandom projected their ideas on the flowers for years. Lightners' dreams form Darkners. Flowers being humans embodying SOUL traits is the result from that.
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A pattern I noticed that still holds up after Chapter 5 is that every secret boss requires some sort of key to fight them:
>Jevil: Broken keys
>Spamton: KEYGEN
>ERAM: Ice Key and Shelter Key
>Gerson: Piano keys
>Pink: MysteryKey
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>>573671008
I’m not the original anon you are talking to
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>>573670968
>"hey kris, let's wrestle and smooch like azzy and dess!!!"
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>>573670712
Why do you keep saying "townspeople" like they're random unrelated people? The Dreemurrs and the Holidays are/were Asgore's family. No one is saying Orange is Noelle's mouse babysitter.
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This kills the anti krisaqua autists
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If Aqua and Orange are meant to be Kris and Noelle as children viewed through the eyes of Asgore's nostalgia why aren't they paired up?
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praying to god that the underages present here right now get their brains popped by a shooter at their shitty public schools soon
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>>573670968
Sure, but you're saying that flowers consciously chose their forms. Orange proves that it wasn't conscious decision.
Unless your argument is that they could choose their forms only on the single moment when the dark world formed, and Orange didn't know that humans looked like.
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>>573671015
Blue is an idealized version of Toriel so he's a man because if he was a bro he'd understand why Asgore did that shit instead of divorcing him like a bitch
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>>573671015
>Toriel is a 6'3" black man
This is just another coincidence. Toby is shaking his head at the idea anyone could form a connection between these 2 characters.
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>>573671015
Just because you're 6'3" and black and a flower and gay that doesn't mean you can't aspire to be Toriel IRL
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>>573671034
should i be concerned that the Ice Key is found deep in the forest? Where the pointed tail is supposed to kill children?
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>>573671113
I don't know how someone can look at Aqua, the cyan character with a ribbon that looks almost exactly like the SOUL, and say that she's not supposed to be based on Kris.
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>>573671150
Orange chose her form and continues to choose it because she's kind of stupid, anon. There is a breakroom scene about it
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>>573671170
Tori is black mammy coded so basically a dude anyways
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>>573671198
Did she choose to be stupid, tho?
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>>573664173
If they do that the Roaring happens and they never get to bring Dess back to the Light World.
I smell a betrayal.
Like the Knight is pulling a Snape and is actually working with Gaster to fuck over the the big bad that wants the Roaring to happen.
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Tonight is /utg/s first night discovering metaphors and similarities. What's next in store for these little ones?
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>>573671150
We literally see Aqua change the amount of eyes she has, they can shapeshift. Orange stays as a mouse because she genuinely thinks she looks like a human that way.
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Papyrus and Kris are working together. Sans is too, sort of, by leading the soul along.

When recognizing sans, we tipped our hand and Kris took action that night.
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I wanna fuk Orange
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>>573671172
The pointed tail is a metaphor for barbed cocks. Friends rape you to death
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>>573671034
There's also the key to Toriel's room we know is under the cactus that hasn't come to play yet
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I’m sorry the general that kept saying noelle is only attracted to susie because of dess parallels suddenly can’t see parallels anymore?
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>>573671150
>Sure, but you're saying that flowers consciously chose their forms
You have not played the game, and it shows so painfully that I genuinely feel bad for you.
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>>573671239
No. The darkness lets them fantasize a higher form of consciousness but their personality already exists before that and they based their actions and forms on their impressions of the world around them
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>>573668917
I think you guys lean too much into this "casual player" who's not here in the room with us right now. The game is made with an active internet addicted fandom in mind, this isn't the fucking 90's. The episodic releases add to this. People who casually beat Ch.5 have a WHOLE YEAR + to catch up on stuff. You think if they like it they aren't going to look up fanart, see creepypasta weird route shit and not wanna dive deeper into the lore? This series is like Fear and Hunger in that the creator fully expects people to look up the deeper lore of the game even if they don't want to take the time to experience it first hand and learn the secrets on their own. The game being patched 2 weeks after the fact to add more lore is more proof of this - Toby wanted the chapter to have its own breathing room, discussion, memes, art, etc. made for it before dropping the deeper lore connections that would most likely overshadow the other themes in the chapter if released upfront.

Nobody in 2026 is playing this game as the "casual player" who literally just plays the game spoiler free, goes "that was a good chapter haha. I'll just wait for the next one, whenever that comes out" and then closes it without taking a moment to ever join online discussions. They wouldn't even know the next chapter is about a year away if not for looking online cause it's not like there's a tentative release date within the game itself.

Even IF there was such a player, the reveal would almost certainly come off with some short lore dump that gives them just enough to feel like they missed something on their playthrough to have not noticed what's happening (after all, there are tons of branching paths and any gamer with a single braincell can figure out there are hidden secrets among those paths that give more context onto something they may be confused on).

In short, this game is made as an ARG experience first and foremost, since its very inception. Treat it as such.
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>>573671240
I mean it's pretty obvious the knight is a good guy. Well, "greater good" type of good guy, but yeah.
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>>573671281
>rape
>metaphor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgQqQEIiLgM
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>>573671234
>HAVE SOME SUGAR MY SWEET BABBY BOY
>*shoves a comically large spoon into Kris's mouth*
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>>573671243
It's just one schizo who really hates it and keeps jabbering on about the wizard of oz whenever it's brought up. I think he might genuinely be the most autistic poster in the thread.
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The "Deltarune fans can't read meme" has official twisted around and found it's own asshole. The people complaining about others lacking reading comprehension (or media literacy if you want to use a useless term) are officially more annoying and sententious than the people they complain about.
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>>573671357
Going by the typing style I'm pretty sure he was the guy who kept sperging out about how the knight can't be a Lightner and that the Knight gently pushing Kris makes no sense because it should be stabbing them
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>>573671415
Yes I think it's the same guy who schizos out if anyone posts a theory he slightly disagrees with. He's very sensitive.
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>>573671341
Do you think they only meant to graze Flowery and feel bad about killing him?
>>573671369
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friends what do I do when I cant draw because im too pissed off to
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>>573671357
https://youtu.be/5eEIiyTYy64?si=vvokqf2AwZFl7JXP&t=58
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>>573671331
Oh you'd be fucking surprised. I know MULTIPLE people that treat it as casual as you can imagine. They don't know what a FRIEND is. Egg? Who needs it. "Asriel is sooooo cute!" "That's ralsei...", gaster is some undertale creepypasta fan character, and weird route is the bad route and you only play it if you're a bad person.
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>>573671506
calm down.
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>>573671506
Draw vent art related to what you're mad about
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>>573671496
He's not real. It's just a flower. It's more important that Asgore be taken to the shelter.
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>>573671415
I was arguing with that guy, writing analyst-kun

>>573671492
Anon I'm not the only person calling you a retard over this. Sorry to have to tell you this. I'm not even the main person in this argument
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>>573671352
>video
to be fair, bnuuy sexo
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>>573671535
>They don't know what a FRIEND is
Is it called FRIEND in the game, or is it purely in code? Other than green little schizo making unintentional puns.
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>>573671603
HE'S REAL TO ME DAMNIT
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I am mad...
mad that I can't see Susie's little $$$-tail swishing the leaves away before she sits down..........
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>>573671415
It was Dess who pushed back, not the Knight.
>but muh Dess is muh Knight
Motivation? Even the most retarded DessKnighters don't believe it's ACTUALLY Dess.
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>>573671514
yes i know why you bring up the wizard of oz retard, my point was that you do it all the time like it's your calling card. you're too autistic to process that though.
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>be mew mew hater
>dance around my room to mew mew kissy cutie on repeat
Damnit.
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>>573662093
I still prefer the Knight Mayor pun if Tobert does do funny name for Knight
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Kris failing their driving test and crying
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>>573671635
In the code it's object is "DEVICE_FRIEND", and texture is "IMAGE_FRIEND". Friends in the ch3 "original" game don't have internal names at all.
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>>573671659
>Brings it up twice
>Is a calling card
Anon, you are just scared of having your shitty theories called shitty
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>>573671713
No one's immune
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>>573671635
image_friend, device_friend, image_red, though "Image" and "Friend" showed up loosely associated in the text attacks this chapter.
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I'm MAD that I'm flying!
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>>573671658
>dess who pushed back
but dess is lost in le code, anon.......
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Fave was writing some fan fiction and wrote a section so unbelievably sad fave unironically started crying in real life. Fave has not cried in 3 years until a few minutes ago. Have other faveites experienced this before or is there something wrong with fave?
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>Gaster shows up
>HELLO I AM THE VOICE FROM THE INTRODUCTION AND THE MIDWAY POINT OF THE GAME
>I WILL FIGHT YOU FOR MY DELTARUNE NOW
This is sufficient for the fabled casual player as long as he has hype moments and aura. If you think it would be too complicated, it's because you already know more about Gaster than the casual player does.
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>>573671713
she is saving the day
susie kris and ralsei
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>>573671798
>dess is lost in code
Yes.
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>>573671798
>dood how did kris slash toriel's tires or open the flower world dark world when i, the soul, was placed in time out??? dooood...
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This thread is better with pirate dojo playing on loop.
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>>573671535
That's fine, for that person they'll still be surprised and certainly feel they missed something for the reveal. Chances are the most "casual" normal ending will be unsatisfying in a way that urges them to dive deeper into the lore to figure out what's really going on. Hell, even Undertale literally did this since most casual players doing the normal route aren't thinking of being a pacifist and probably stop genociding when the game gives them ample warnings against it.
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>>573671496
They killed Jackenstein for no reason after the Fun Gang already finished climbing off him and that wasn't even in the prophecy like Tenna and Flowery so I think the Knight is just an asshole
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Chapter 6 will introduce hostile "LOST" Darkners. They will look half-way like Titan Spawn.
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>>573671905
Dess always hated that ugly pumpkin...
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>>573671352
>Got hard
Welp. I think I've lived a good life, time to kill myself :D
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>>573671772
It's not even a theory, it's just an analysis of the characters shown to us. It's not like anyone is using it to try and predict what's going to happen in the game.
>Brings it up twice
4 times in less than 2 days. I bet there'd be more if I actually bothered to look.
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>>573671847
that's noelle, dumbass...
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kill lorefags
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>Kris is Aqua, Aqua is Kris
>Kris never smiles because they have a single tooth.
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>>573671825
I once was so obsessed with a scene idea I acted it out by myself and got real emotional. Too bad it was one of those "wanna write a fic just for that scene" situations and nothing really came of it.
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>>573671902
>since most casual players doing the normal route aren't thinking of being a pacifist
I've seen streamers starting to "grind" monsters in each area until they get genocide jingle once they meet Absolute God of Hyperdeath Asriel and can't defeat him.
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Can someone post the femburgerpants whiteboard art for me? I want to save it for myself.
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>>573671981
Those are not all me, anon. Sorry that multiple people remember a famous movie in this context. Maybe I read it off of them. I know it's hard for you to imagine that two people with something in common are not samefagging though, so I understand
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The knight is an unnamed blind deaf guy in a wheelchair who's always just barely offscreen that nobody ever mentions
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>>573671926
How much more LOST can you get than King who's already planning on world domination out of heartbreak
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>>573672106
>No uhh that wasn't me it was the other guy who gets really mad about people discussing the game and brings up the Wizard of Oz
Sure thing friendo.
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>>573671623
>Bnnuy sexo
https://youtu.be/fh67feuHajg
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>>573672123
Does he play pinball?
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>>573672106
>Those are not all me, anon
okay so which ones are you? three out of four?
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>>573672106
Somewhat doubtful. Only Orange invokes "Wizard of Oz" feeling, and only because of her shadow theatre stuff.
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>>573672154
There were at least 3 anons reaming you in this thread. I'm just the one who stayed. Keep making this personal, though. I'm sure that'll make your theory good again
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Can someone please watch my unfinished Father Cattenheimer has a missing hand + related to cats + code on catflap + codes on the shelter door + Kris got bitten on the hand by FRIEND + Kris will lose their hand + Gaster has holes in his hands theory for me? I gotta pop over to the store real quick.
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>>573671902
End of Deltarune just needs some Flowey like character coming up on the screen like "well boy, that ending sucked, huh? Maybe if you made Noelle stronger you would have avoided this. Hey, wasn't there a point where you had a chance to level her up long ago?...Maybe her ice magic will be more handy if it was powered up!" or some shit. Not that complicated.
>B-but Deltarun is a bajillion hours unlike Undertale! Nobody will ever play a game this long again!

lol. niggas never played a single other RPG with branching paths before. Deltarune's main segments can even be speedrun without any issues. Most of the gameplay time is just talking to characters and interacting with shit for flavortext. Just go from point A to point B and you'll find the game is almost deliberately made with skipping through it on additional playthroughs in mind. It'll be longer than Undertale but really not that long especially if you mostly know where to go and the solutions to the puzzles.
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>>573672124
King is still sane. I'm talking about mindless corruption. Kinda like Gerson Statue from ch4.
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>>573672215
Yeah sure thing *feeds your theory to the rabid FRIEND Knight anon as soon as you leave*
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>>573672202
>There were at least 3 anons reaming you in this thread.
There were at least 10 anons on my side though so I win.
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>>573671905
He's alive in my save.
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>>573672106
You are suddenly docile after getting BTFO from an extremely simple plot point such as flower darkners shapeshifting, it's obviously you.
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>>573672124
It gives me a chuckle that the ch1 dark world whole problem is Gerson died and no one uses that classroom any more.

Like lancer HAD to not be in our pocket in ch4 otherwise he'd be telling King about some "Happy old green monster who was actually dead fought Susie." Same with Rouxls he probably actually remembers Gerson.
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>>573672281
That was because you had friends to save Jack but the Knight still tries to kill him
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>>573672296
This is me:
>>573671198
Get a glue, anon.
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>>573672392
It was just bants bro.
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>>573671535
>and weird route is the bad route
Weird Route is creepypasta route, Anon. You only play it because you want to be scared, not because you want a good end. At BEST it would be something uncanny and bizarre.
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>>573672057
I've had friends just get the normal ending and go "eh, I beat the game, no need to grind every ending"
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>>573663259
he's cute..
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>>573672157
I don't understand a word she's saying but I agree
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>>573672425
Krisellefags are delusional so they think the weird route will be the only path to a happy ending
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>>573672425
I'm aware, that was just a text dump of shit I've heard from casual players I know.
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>>573672491
Fatsue = Toriel. Now we're thinking parallels
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>>573672428
That's understandable, honestly. If you killed a single Froggit in ruins in self-defense and never again, I would too quit if the game demanded completionism autism and start again from scratch. It's not like Silksong, where you can always complete more quests to get to Third Act.
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does fave boil their hot dogs or grill them
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>>573672561
Flowey calls you out for killing monsters at the end of the ruins, you can just reset then instead of plowing ahead
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>>573672576
I boil them because i'm lazy but grilled taste better.
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>>573672576
microwave
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>>573672561
Yeah, I can't fault them either, but I won't lie it's an unsatisfying situation.
Tony really did mean it when he said he made the games for a certain kind of person.
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>>573672576
Microwave
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>>573672620
That's what I did because I was too retarded to spare Toriel enough times
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I bet aquas nipples are crazy sensitive
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>>573672620
Most people would consider that "cheating" and that they "should accept consequences". Especially considering that Flowey calls you out if you reload, too, making it seems like reloading is unethical.
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>>573672576
I prefer them boiled
No I'm not an alien or autistic
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wtf is a kaizo knight?
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>>573672576
Fave just gobbles them down.
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>>573672701
I bet your pain receptors must be pretty sensitive too.
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>>573672576
Pan-fry
Oh you meant the actual Fave from the game then she just uses a hot dog ray that backfires and raises the temperature of all dogs on Earth to eighteen sextillion degrees celsius
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The weird route will absolutely not be a happy ending but I know I'D be happy if Noelle forced me to bust several nuts in her
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>>573672732
>Most people would consider that "cheating" and that they "should accept consequences".
I'm glad I'm not most people because that would suck ass
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>>573672747
What did he mean by this?
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I like to imagine fave wearing big frilly dresses and makeup that make them look pretty. Guess my fave before next thread and win a special prize...
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>>573671352
what the fuck is this
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>>573672836
Spamton
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>>573672836
Ralsei.
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>>573672732
Who the hell is most people you're talking about a weird alien
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>>573672739
Kaizo = difficulty mod/romhack
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>>573672576
Chopped up and mixed with scrambled eggs on a skillet. Add lots of ketchup
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>>573672836
Kris
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>>573672739
Super Mario wasn't hard enough so a series of romhacks were made for it.
Kaizo Knight is the same idea for Deltarune, some people like a challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T144pcmEbXY
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>>573672836
Susie
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>>573672746
im still proud of scribbling that Dagoth Ur
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>>573672836
Susie
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>>573672732
Don't care, I'm god. Reset, did genocide, then deleted chara from the program data to uncorrupt my world, gg.
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>>573672912
>Kaizo Knight
>Not a platforming mode fight with Knight
Why are they so retarded with their names
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>>573672918
You should be, it's kino.
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>>573672970
>didn’t stay with the demon child loli
lame
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>>573672836
the knight
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>>573673014
thanks anon you're lifting my mood up
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>>573672981
Because the Mario community is big enough to make names for specific types of mod or speedrunning strategy. Also they are insane and will break games apart in ways no game was ever meant to be broken. Out of bounds doesn't describe the craziness they get up to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfG8DbxFibY
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>>573672918
who is that?
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>>573672732
>raped by flowey and chara's words
lmao
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>>573673159
Morrorwind Schizo Boss
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>>573672981
"Kaizo" as a shorthand for difficulty rather than platforming is widespread, there are lots of "kaizo" romhacks for Pokemon and other non-platformers
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>>573673159
The best Elder Scrolls antagonist.
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>>573673165
How could Flowey and Chara do this
>>573673249
Dagoth Ur made a pretty good case for himself, maybe he should slavefy Morronwind and drive away the empire
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>bait stops
>doomer avatars come back on
i'm noticing
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>>573673267
Yes, but Pokemon does not have platforming mode, tho
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>>573672836
Shyren
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>>573672970
>uncorrupt
Post-geno TP is the good ending, you bricked your save
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are you a col sperg or a molested autist anon?
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What are your thoughts on "Kris is not actual hero", "Susie is not actual hero", "Ralsei is not actual hero" theories? They clearly fulfill the "roles" of heroes, and the prophecy marches on as normal, so why does it even matters?
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>>573672576
Susie eats all 8 of them cold right out of the package
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Gently grasp your aqua
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>>573673381
I'm mostly the second category, but people have called me col a bunch of times, so I guess I'm dual-classing.
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I was posting music links with green art earlier, it didn't bait anyone into posting more green unfortunately. You sure are good at noticing when I post Ralsei.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SN3LK8M3_U
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>>573673381
im the raped.
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>>573673387
The heros appear after the roaring, not before it
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>>573673387
>"Kris is not actual hero"
Retarded
>"Susie is not actual hero"
I can dig this one
>"Ralsei is not actual hero"
I could buy it if I heard a good argument for an alternative but I haven't heard one yet.
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>>573673447
Kris...
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>>573673416
>people have called me col a bunch of times
This is a sign you need to make better posts
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>>573673381
COL-coded but I don't actually think the game is going to be Chrono Cross I just frequently shitpost about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O_lINY_fos
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>>573673545
*gives you the biggest tightest smooch n wiggles my lil tongue in* hehehehehehe did u liek tht :3



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