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Long Range Incendiary Edition
>Previous
>>573772637

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
Jun 16 Supply & Flamer FRVs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMRAOyw5MV4
Jun 30 R-4 Termicide 2.0 & Hyena https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5xxT-LWRYY
Jul 09 SC cheaters https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/696516748689545692

>LATEST PATCHES
Jun 16 1.006.300 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/676249280988579951
Jul 07 1.006.301 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/696516748689543612
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1st for Quasar Cannon my beloved
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>coyote: assault rifle
>hyena: marksman rifle

Continuing this theme, what else do we have? Jackal, wolf, maybe even branch into various dog breeds like bloodhound and mastiff, or go towards big cats like tiger, jaguar, etc. Obvious play is to give us an incendiary SMG and maybe even an incendiary pistol, and then ultimately incendiary machine gun.
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>>573899930
KEK
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>>573902238
I bet this thing has 10 ergonomic and you're basically forced to pay the peak physique tax if you want to use it
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So will the Hyena be nerfed before or after release?
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MORE FUCKING EATS!!!
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>>573903029
name 10 nerfs from the last 6 months
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>>573903029
What's there to nerf?
An incendiary marksman rifle would already onetap almost every enemy that you'd actually want to ignite, and everything else either has too much armour or has fire status resistance.
Unless it has splash or can set targets on fire with one shot, it's probably gonna be a DCS sidegrade.
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WTF IT SUCKS
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>we're going to build a wall and make the Terminids pay for it
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>>573903479
I'm at work right now, was I'm correct? >>573902969
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>>573903663
it-s not out yuet hes trolling
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NEW MARKSMAN RIFLE?!?!?!?!
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fuck I'm retarded i booted the game in expecting new gun
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don't care
got mine
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>>573903663
>cannot edit
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>>573902238
>cannot edit
WHAT
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d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242986103211
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>cannot edit
THE LAZIEST FUCKING COUNTRY IMAGINABLE
NUKE SWEDEN
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>>573904032
>>573904034
iirc there was another gun that couldn't be edited on release
probably a bug
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>cannot edit
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>>573904032
>name doesn't even appear on my end
top quality as always AH
>>573904156
yea I think it was the sweeper?
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>cannot edit
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>all these newfags
>the subhuman swedes forgetting to enable customization for a newly released formerly super store gun AGAIN
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>Cannot edit
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAR WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOINGGGGGGG, SAAAR LISTEN TO ME, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS???
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>>573903663
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>>573904203
>yea I think it was the sweeper?
and the double barrel
it's something that happens to every weapon they put in the super store
probably using the crossover killzone guns as base or something
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I'm doing my part!
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>>573904132
2/4
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That disable shields mission for illuminate is actually fun
Is that new or something? Or is it just a cool planet? I have never seen it before
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>>573904132
4/4
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>>573902692
i can see the Jackal being a SMG version of it
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>>573903663
no you're not. the ergonomics are fine, feels around 30 to 40
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>>573904227
its just all so tiresome
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>>573904483
Disable shield mission?
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get HYPED for the next campaign!
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>hyena can't be edited
how does this keep happening?
where is the QA?
do random devs just shovel their shit into the game without oversight? how do they keep making the same beginner mistakes over and over again?
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So is it good?
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>>573905609
it's a powercrept dcs
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>>573905767
yeah but the dcs was already worthless so this is less worthless?
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>>573905815
yeah it's a bit better than worthless
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>>573905815
>dcs
>worthless
wat
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>>573906008
A lot of people will use a weapon once and decide that it's worthless because they don't like it.
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isn't the customisation enablement server side?
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>>573906069
yea
baconator just said it's a server side issue and theyre """working on it"""
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>>573906008
why would you use it over the normal dilligents?
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>>573905594
Devs are on voluntary mandatory 6-month break, so they let their kids' schools come in occasionally to use the computers for IT class. Sometimes one of them draws stuff on the stylus that they publish so they can jam it in their portfolios, thereby cementing their future as Arrowhead's next generation
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>>573906008
medpen is a crutch for people that can't aim
why would you use a marksman rifle you can't aim?
why would you use medpen if you can aim?
just use the normal diligence
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>>573906069
>>573906175
You'll get your customization on tudesday
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surely we will get a warbond trailer tomorrow right guys
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>>573906292
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>>573906179
>ability to defang factory striders + can kill with one gorillion belly shots in a pinch
>passable against gunships so you don't have to waste your support weapon ammo
>x10 scope
>>573906250
you can still headshot with it, it meets all the breakpoints that matter
it just gives you a bit more leeway for your loadout
I'd say it's not only not worthless but also the most handheld non-explosive weapon
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>>573905195
Yeah, it was like a planetary shield with a constant electrical storm and weird shimmery purple shit in the atmosphere, all the objectives are in big ruins, the final ruin even has an interior
I missed when they added appropriators so it may have been part of that event
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customization is in
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if i think about it i'm fine with weapons being received for free as MO rewards then put into warslops for those who missed out
because you can get both for free
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>>573906250
yeah that's why the sickle is way better than the dickle right?
I'm so tired of this stupid larp, fuck off and die
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>shit ergonomic
>artificially capped fire rate
>random spread
Holy trash, I'll never touch this garbage ever again
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>>573906501
>warbonds
no, it devalues the warbond if you end up buying it
>super store
yes, being able to get the sweeper for free would be sweet, and as an individual purchase, you aren't losing anything if you decide to buy the rest of the stuff
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>>573906481
>21 ergo
does it get 1.5 scope?
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>>573906354
You can offload all of these things to your squad's MG-man instead of taking a crippled primary with hellish recoil and lol lmao ammo economy and no actual use cases for good measure.
>the most handheld non-explosive weapon
Are you drunk?
>>573906596
The Sickle is just crippled trash at a fundamental level and counts as an outlier.
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>>573906739
it gets every scope in the game
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5 spare mags is harsh
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Lobby
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242990545339/76561198120804312
Come test gun on bots.
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>>573906749
>You can offload all of these things to your squad's MG-man
my bad, I wasn't aware I was talking to a roleplayer
gotcha
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>what could've been
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>>573906702
>random spread on a "sniper" rifle
what the fuck were Narrowhead smoking, this is instant trash-tier
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>>573903610
>Nect campaign is gonna be more recycled TCS slop
I was hoping for a bot campaign desu
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Far Far West (8 person team) getting
>a whole new faction of enemies
>new pois
>new quests
>2 new maps (not procedural btw)
>new weapons
>new skins
>an entire new ability tree
>new game mechanic
>a shit ton of new modifiers
>QoL fixes
>plus timely balancing
>plus timely hotfixes
>gratis
meanwhile Helldivers 2 getting
>uh a gun I guess
>you can play the old mission we time gated for no reason haha
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>>573906973
>>573906702
>random spread
????
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>>573906924
missing a hull mounted and a commander MG for maxium kino
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>>573906915
Sorry, I didn't know you were a solodiver.
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>no fucking grips
for what fucking purpose man
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>>573906702
>>573906973
>>random spread
hysterical retards kvetching over imagined problems. 0.5 spread is fucking nothing
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So what happens when AH runs out of warbond items to cannibalise for the campaigns? Are they going to be making new shit specifically for campaigns or are we going back to just medals?
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>>573906924
unironically would have been too overpowered
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>>573907145
spread matters a lot on a marksman rifle actually
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I like the Hyena so far.
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i like the new gun
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>>573906902
nvm, lobby closed. Landlord is harassing my fucking door
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>>573907264
>tfw no autistic lidl girlfriend
bros... I want to kill myself...
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>having a guy in your team whose job is to wield an mg and shoot certain targets along with adds is a black secret technique for /hdg/
lol lmao
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>they still didn't fix this issue
I just don't know anymore man they really do not give a single fuck
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>>573907256
0.5 is so insignificant it might as well be 0. I guarantee you it will never come into play. the liberator has 2 spread and do you ever notice it missing because of it? no
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>>573907308
girls love pissing around in supermarkets, it's not even autism
you can find one, they're free and you can take them, just take her to a fancy supermarket and impregnate her
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>>573907512
>the liberator has 2 spread and do you ever notice it missing because of it
no because I never use it as a precision sniper rifle?
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>>573907458
90% of lobbies don't have anyone using an mg of any configuration
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>>573907046
That's because Far Far West is being made by people who want to make a fun video game, not made by greedy swedish retards who want to have people whale for their shitty warbonds.
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>>573907164
Campaigns will just have extra warbond medals as the final reward
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Thank you, buGODs
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>>573907458
>my arbitrary squad role LARP is actually pretty par for the course and the mg monkey is always available
medium pen opens up a few utility roles that light pen can't offer
it's a matter of convenience
my most used primary is the knight btw
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>>573906702
>They wanted to sell this
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I like the be the RR chad that culls the big elites so retards can run around goofing off
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>D10 okodoko lobby moonkino bots

Mandatory "actually plays the game" lobby requirement:
>Must equip the Hyena
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>>573907901
nice one retard
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>BLUE_CAT
>retarded
classic combo
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>>573907901
too excited for new content(tm), forgot link:
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242991575689/76561198005075969
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>>573907804
I can tell that you are a solodiver just by the way of your thinking.
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>>573907952
I can almost predict when you are going to mention my name at this point kek
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to be honest the gun just feels like a shart simply because it doesn't have heavy pen. back to eruptor i go >:)
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>>573906481
Wow that looks bad
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got the yeen gun :D
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>>573906464
Sounds like "Destroy Exospire"-missions.
Those missions are available when the squids are attempting to "void" a planet.
They're quite kino. I especially like how quiet everything gets once you complete the primary mission objective.
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>>573905594
>do random devs just shovel their shit into the game without oversight? how do they keep making the same beginner mistakes over and over again?
Yes, we know this for more then 1 year by now
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>>573908115
I can tell you're retarded just by your use of strawmans
Your cult-like obsession with light pen is silly at best, especially with the few advantages medium pen actually posseses over it as I've stated
but you do you, keep lashing out at your imaginary solodiver
post career btw
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>>573907901
>>573908024
2/4
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Reminder: warbonds are not content
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>>573908562
It'd be funny to see all the content AH releases in a year outside a warbond vs content other games get after their first couple years of release.
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Not a big fan of the Hyena.
The enemies that you would want to set on fire with the Hyena take two or three shots to set on fire, but they'll die to the ballistic damage from those shots even if you don't hit weakspots, so the fire effect is kinda pointless. For anything else either they die in one shot, or they have so much main HP that the fire won't be strong enough and you'll have to dump more shots anyway. It falls just short of the single shot Overseers headshot breakpoint which is not unexpected but still unfortunate.
Overall it's just a gimmicky DCS sidegrade, I can't really think of any situation where I'd rather have the Hyena instead of the DCS or something better, or the Coyote.
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>shit ergonomics.
Why does arrowhead hate fun
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me when weapon has downsides i can easily compensate for
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>>573908902
I like using weapons with low ergonomics.
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>>573908024
3/4 where are (You)
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>>573908826
Feels like the only time the hyena would be better is if you're center massing targets. But if you're center massing you usually want to kill it fast, otherwise you go for headshots.

On paper it feels like a gun that should be started roughly the same as DCS with some minor downside.
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>>573908940
cope
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>>573908024
FVLL
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>>573908945
Do you like the weapons or the fact they take for ever to turn with?
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>>573908481
Yeah that's the one, it's awesome, was starting to think it was impossible to make squids fun
Is the constant lightning barrage part of the mission or just the weather on the planet?
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Lobby doko
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>AMR can one-tap hulks
wtf, since when?
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>>573909145
The lightning barrage is caused by the exospire, it stops the moment it's destroyed.
I think the intensity of the lightning is tied to the catagory-level of the storm itself (can be seen on the galactic map). I think level 4 is the highest.
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>>573909283
Since they buffed it for no good reason. You need to be close range for it
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>>573904227
Why're they such a fucking jobbers? Where's the basics QA test?
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>>573909126
I like the larp element of having to fight the weapon to use it. But really you just get use to it. I almost never take peak physique with the HMG on bots because most of the enemies you'd want to use it on (hulks, factory striders, war striders) are very slow and move predictably. Ergonomics is also an interesting way to balance weapons. It makes weapons worse at close range, which encourages you to use them at a distance.

I never understand when people say that peak physique is required for certain weapons. The machine guns benefit more from recoil reduction than from increased ergo, but I guess that's a matter of preference.
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>>573909563
I just find it easier to compensate for the high recoil of the HMG with PP than having recoil reduction
also using the hmg to kill factory striders is completely psychotic
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>>573909824
I mostly use the HMG to defang factory striders. It's definitely worse at that than most of the other options, like the AMR, but the HMG is so good against Hulks that it's still worth taking. However, when factory striders are defanged they tend to just walk towards you until they get stuck on something. I think if they lose all of their ranged weapons they start trying to melee you with their feet. When they get really out of position like that, unloading in to their belly panels with the HMG is an okay method for finishing them off.
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Hyena looks like ass to play with...
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>looks like
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I've used the hyena exactly once, on a D10 regular bot mission.
it's fine. if you are bitching about it or think it's worthless trash you are a giga ultra shitter trying to excuse your skill issue
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>>573902238
warbond trailer tomorrow
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>>573909563
>I never understood why peak physique-

Mainly because you're optimizing the gun substantially, which needs the optimization frankly with how weak it is compared to other support weapons.

450 RPM + peak physique means you can treat it like an AP4 marksmen rifle, while snap shotting hulk visors/dev skulls left and right. This is also a lot more substantial on factions that flank you like bugs, going so far to click hunters with the thing. It just grossly optimizes the gun.

Sure you can zone enemies and use your HMG when they're in the kill corridor, but anytime things are ontop of you or surprising you. You're not using your strongest weapon in your kit. PP armor effectively means you're using the gun more which makes it more enjoyable.

Only reason why you wouldn't use it if you're trying to challenge yourself.>>573909450
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>>573910368
bro we literally just got a mountain of content, you need more?
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Squidmechs aren't fun as they can tank an RR shot and not die. A common enemy should not be this strong. Arrowhead needs to fix this immediately or all squid planets will get voided from apathy.
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>>573909001
>On paper it feels like a gun that should be started roughly the same as DCS with some minor downside.
that's exactly what it is. slightly better damage + DoT in exchange for 1 fewer spare mag, slightly worse handling, and while it does have worse recoil it also has lower rate of fire meaning you've got more time to settle between shots.
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if they want this thing to be a bug gun it needs some more stagger
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>>573910527
one rifle isn't much content, let alone a mountain
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if you hit a spore burst warrior in the head with the hyena and set it on fire it will die without needing to shoot it again and without releasing spores
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>>573910621
>slightly worse handling
DCS has 50% better handling
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Hopefully Curia will still be up when I am done wageslaving because I want to start a lobby and play the game with my /hdg/ friends <3
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>>573910149
fair, I love the HMG but I just ignore factory striders or use something else to kill them if I see them
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>>573910971
Leveller or solo silo to delete striders/vox engines.
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>>573910940
>Hyena with default attachments: 21 ergonomics
>DCS with default attachments: 26 ergonomics
>hyena with maximum ergo attachments: 41 ergonomics
>DCS with maxium ergo attachments: 40 ergonomics
>DCS has 50% better handling
are you sure about that?
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Sell me on the liberator concussive. It seems shit and useless on a first try.
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>>573902238
>bugfaggots abandoned already part liberated Bore Rock for ACKamar
I marvel at their subhumanity, this is insane. That entire planet, and everyone who has set foot on it in past month or so should get Star of Peace treatment.
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>>573911425
Does max hyena take the ammo off?
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>>573911753
the sole purpose of that gun is to keep predator stalkers away from you
its only niche is very high pushback on an automatic platform
it's a meme weapon for shitters running guard dogs
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>>573910596
Team loading RR against them would've been fun desu
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>>573911753
you can't die to melee while using it
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>21 ergonomics
21 ergonomics
>21 ergonomics
21 ergonomics
>21 ergonomics
21 ergonomics

into the TRASH it goes
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The real crime is the disgusting sway
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>>573911828
you go from 15/75 to 10/90
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whole lot of shitter self reporting going on
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Why would you take the hyena on squids if you can take the Deadeye?
Why would you take the hyena on bugs if you can take the Coyote?
Why would you take the hyena on bots if you can take the Diligence or Amendment?
I don't get it. What's this weapon's niche? Have we reached saturation where new weapons all feel like half-assed dogshit or mega powercreep versions of previous ones?
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>>573912069
Please remember that all swedes are conscripted at some point so they have gun experience while you likely don't. Arrowhead wants realism in their gunplay and stats guns accordingly. Yes, it is also true that swedes are girly, emasculated, and ate generally skinnyfat weaklings. With that in mind, you should now understand why some guns handle the way they do.
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>>573912432
okay Mr. Realism
tell me why the AMR 50 caliber long rifle is easier to swing around with 35 Ergo than a DMR with an ergonomic stock at 21 ergo?
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>>573912286
But that does require you to lower your mag count then?
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>>573912789
in english?
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>>573912789
yes
11 ergo for -5 bullets per mag
but you get 10 more bullets in total
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>>573912589
Hyena looks vaguely Russian = retarded slavmonkey engineering and bad materials
AMR looks reasonably western = high IQ engineering, high quality craft and materials
simple
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>>573912589
Meme answer: media literacy

Sincere answer: They balance randomly and inconsistently. It's likely they have overlooked the ergo on the AMR and would lower it if they noticed.
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>>573913061
point taken
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>>573913109
i'd unironically buy 10000 upboats on reddit and make a complain post if they did that
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>>573910527
>mountain of content
literally bro, literally
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>>573902692
we also need an incendiary double-barrel shotgun
preferably one-handed like the double freedom was in the first game
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>same status strength as coyote
the fire is a bit of a meme on this gun no
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>>573902692
Dog
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Open the game and what do I see, botpidors are losing their front once again. What's wrong with them?
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>>573913367
GW1 helldivers were just built different
these GW2 sissies can't even spin
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>>573912306
The only difference I can see is that it has 950m/s for its muzzle velocity, beating out even the DCS, but only by 10m/s. I... can't think of any situation where that'd suddenly be useful though.
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>>573913417
There's no way it's the same status
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>>573912306
>Have we reached saturation where new weapons all feel like half-assed dogshit or mega powercreep versions of previous ones?
We reached that like a year ago.
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>>573913595
desu I havent tested it myself just checked wiki, maybe it's still incomplete
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>>573913657
i mean the trident and stoker were pretty nice additions.
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>>573913741
So was Gallant <--- Truth Potato
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>>573910596
what's weird is they can easily introduce more of the roster from HD1 to fill the medium-size enemy role
there's no reason they can't send in armies of mini tripods that you can mow down with a machine gun or grenade launcher
that's what made the illuminate in HD1 bearable: enemies that might have annoying gimmicks but weren't tanky
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>>573913595
Just use it, two shots to ignite warriors, 3-4 shots to ignite overseers. There's pretty much no enemies that you are able to set on fire before just killing them outright. You'll need to actively aim at shitboxes for the fire to do anything.
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I like it tbdesu, probably going to be my main dmr for squids and bugs
I do wish it had some more stagger but the ergo is fine with the right attachments
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>>573912306
>>573913657
we haven't reached saturation, it's just easier to add new weapons where they tweak the values slightly as opposed to adding something unique like acid weapons

>>573913891
it definitely has a place. not in my loadout, but somewhere surely.
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>>573912306
>Why would you take the hyena on squids if you can take the Deadeye?
Because deadeye is a bond-item.
>Why would you take the hyena on bugs if you can take the Coyote?
Because Coyote is a bond-item.
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>>573914098
I am 'gallant is top tier on rupture strain' truther
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>>573914132
and the hyena will be a superstore exclusive for 400 SC
your point?
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>make the free gun shit on purpose

Sasuga
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>>573914418
operator issue I'm afraid
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>I CAN'T JUST BRAINLESSLY KILL EVERYTHING WITH THE NEW GUN THAT MEANS ITS SHIT

You out yourselves every time.
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at least its better than Deadeye
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>>573914202
for me it's gallant plus mgx for maximum lead logistics
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why would i use the hyena when the eruptor does everything the hyena does but better?
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>>573914707
Because I like both guns?
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why would I use the hyena when there's nothing new to use it on?
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>>573914854
Three new subfactions have been added this year.
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I chose to protest fomo content and did not log in to get the hyena. I have no regrets.
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I don't believe you
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Have you ever seen anyone in a single mission play the role of a sniper, covering their team?
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>>573914707
fomoggots owned
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>>573915225
yes
there was this autistic german bitching and moaning about game not facilitating his lame playstyle
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>>573913473
>botpidors
kek
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>did not log in
first trve post itt none of you niggas play the game
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>>573914525
How do you increase the fire damage per bullet with skill
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>>573913473
I wonder how her vaginal folds feel...
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>>573914707
eruptor is gay and retarded and is behind a sneedbond
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>>573915542
>her
>vagina
Anon...
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>>573915807
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>>573915542
Go stick ur finger in ur armpit
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>>573916308
damn that is surprisingly accurate
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>>573916308
>>573916429
Oh really? now i'm even more hornier for armpits
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>>573912069
>with 10x which it doesn't need
>with muzzle break which makes it worse at its job
>with extended mag
weird how you didn't mention or even look at these factors.
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>>573915082
It seems gimmicky so you aren't missing much. It doesn't have anything that you don't have from other guns.
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>>573916712
at that point why would i not use the coyote?
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>>573916429
>foids, in MY /hdg/?
It's more likely than you think.
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>>573916890
There are at least three.
We know.
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>>573908024
gg hyena niggas
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>>573914071
>two shots to ignite warriors
or 1. warriors have a minimum ignite threshold of 2.1 and a maximum ignite threshold of 4. the hyena has a fire status effect of 3.
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lobby doko
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I literally spent more time fighting the gun due to it's bullshit ergonomic than actually fighting the bots, buff the fucking ergonomic to 30
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>>573913417
>>same status strength as coyote
>look inside
>coyote: 2
>hyena: 3
why do people talk out of their ass so much in this general?
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>>573917127
it's 30 by default.
the base attachments are -9
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>>573917127
same actually, it handles like an AMR but deals damage like the coyote so might as well just use coyote
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>>573917127
take off the muzzle break that is adding sway to your precision long range marksman rifle and downgrade the scope from a 10X to a 4x or even the 1.5x combat scope because no fights happen outside 100 meters and suddenly you have your desired 30 ergonomics
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>>573917061
you need more??

>>573916890
he is referring to biological foids, not the other ones
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>>573917186
>>573917276
maybe pileofshid or shams or whoever said it was right that nobody engages with the weapon customization system if people are bitching about problems that are solved through the weapon customization system
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>>573917351
>he is referring to biological foids, not the other ones
if you count the ""other"" ones, the count goes to 7
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>>573917127
Just remove the extended mag bro, then the gun is 31 ergo, remove the 10x scope for the 4x scope too for even better ergo
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>>573917163
desu a difference of 1 isn't gonna matter when the Hyena is gonna kill shit long before it applies the full status
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>>573917423
Why interract with weapon customization if there's an optimal build for every gun.
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I liek 10x scopes
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>Equip Coyote
>select Semi auto mode
I have the Hyena too!
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honorary foids itt
do WE like the new gun
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>click a dev 3 times and it ignites
>Doesn't die to fire
>Click it again and it dies

>Click a dev four times without waiting for fire
>It dies

So what's the point of the fire.
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10x might be perfectly aligned now but I still don't trust it
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>>573917534
>Why interract with weapon customization if there's an optimal build for every gun.
90% of chases in order to get that optimal build you need to interact with the weapon customization system because it isn't the default build
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>>573917163
where do you get that
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>>573917351
I know.
t. dirty little biofoid
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>>573917790
(X)
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>>573917727
Okay but after that why interract with it
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>>573917745
even if you don't trust the datamined info on the wiki you can just play the game to find out. warriors got buffed to need 2.1 fire status strength specifically to have a chance of setting on fire. the hyena can set them on fire in 1 shot, ergo the hyena has more fire status strength than the coyote
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I miss cookout when it could light an entire group of bugs on fire
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>>573917893
Wiki literally says opposite, both are 5 there. I already said I only checked wiki for now cant play
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>steam are down
Great, just as I'm about to launch the game to collect my hard earned reward for logging in for 2 minutes and log out
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>>573917862
You first.
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I swear I can be more accurate with the lib carb and pop heads on the bot front than with the hyena and its fucked up sway + ergo combo it just feels ass
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If it only had the angled foregrip it would be a decent weapon imo
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>>573918019
>, both are 5 there.
...that's the status strength of the FIRE DoT. the projectile's status strength is what determines how quickly the gun triggers the fire DoT
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>>573917727
The biggest failing of the customization system is having next to no meaningful options outside of like, scopes and magazines. But even then, you're usually going for the strongest scope or 1.5x, and either drum or short mag, depending on the weapon.
The system is so underbaked that there's zero reason to choose anything outside of what removes a gun's specific downsides in regard to recoil or magazine size.
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>>573918174
oh shit
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>>573918220
You say that but I rarely take short mags
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>>573917642
You're so funny fren!
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>>573908024
this truly was one of the map layouts of all time
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>>573918359
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>>573917642
such precious fundiver must be protected at all costs!
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>>573918568
yeah thats how we did it, was just a bit unusual playing the game through linear corridors instead of a big open area especially on moon biome
atleast nobody could solofag
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>frogniggers
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>>573918743
>was just a bit unusual playing the game through linear corridors instead of a big open area
boy do I have a game for you
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>>573919338
nobody here plays this unc slop
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>>573915225
sexo
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lobby NOW
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steam just died
we can't have a lobby anon
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D10, Robots.
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>>573919583
Right as I was opening the game, too.
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>>573919338
is that a light saber
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>>573919678
it was exclusive to the training grounds gamemode
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>>573915225
I used to do that when I was scared to go beyond D6.
Get to a high place with jetpack + quasar and diligence and fire away.
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>>573917674
DoT got raped a long time ago
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>>573914671
its so over for the deadeye, maybe they will finally bump up its AP to 4
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>>573919615
FVLL.
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>>573919338
sexo
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>>573919338
>2D top-down game
ewwwwwww
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>>573919751
>that fucking webm
thanks for the laugh anon
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>>573919338
Is there any relationship between Helldivers 1 and the top-down Halo game no one played?
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>>573919751
wtf why are hitlers so mean to each other :(
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>>573914671
I love the deadeye, don't get why people shit on it so much.
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>>573920117
none that I can tell
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>>573920117
There was a helldivers like halo game?
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>>573920216
>needs to actually aim for heads
aaaaand 95% of the playerbase will deem it shit, there you go!
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>>573920426
I center mass with it a bunch just due to the stagger shitting on things.
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>>573902692
Pitbull (starts shooting uncontrollably around small animals and babies)
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prove you actually play the game
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>>573920216
I don't like how long it takes to reload the first round or how the aim goes all over when cycling rounds
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>>573920714
I like hunting worms.
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>>573915225
I used to do this at D9 (when that was the highest). Sadly, the AMR got powercrept out of existence and it has negatives that make no fucking sense.
>No crosshair.
>Why?
The harpoon outclasses that thing and it doesn't even have a 10x scope. They need to buff the hell out of the AMR. But, I'd bet everything in my savings that they're going to make a new "Heavy AMR" that uses a backpack too like the Cremator
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>>573920714
this isn't your screenshot
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Gee Joel, two bot invasions during an exostorm?
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>>573920426
Generally speaking, the only faction it's worth using the deadeye on is the Illuminate, since it doesn't hit relevant one-shot breakpoints on other factions. Bots can be headshot with light pen (the Censor is excellent in this regard) and Bugs are either too beefy for a one-tap or too trivial to be worth bringing the Deadeye.
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>>573920980
>speargun > amr
as a certified tranny weapon hater I can assure you this is not the case
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>>573904029
wow you got one
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I think Hyena should be able to one tap rupture warriors to head.
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>>573915225
I sometimes do this with the Railgun vs Automatons. It's good at one-tapping most of the dangerous things from a pretty good distance, partly because of zero bullet drop, and is also excellent for dealing with gunships.
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>>573920714
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>>573921259
Doesn't the fire kill them?
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>no meaningful under barrel attachments
>no meaningful magazine upgrade
>best scope unlocked at level 24
Every new weapon is just like this now. At least it's free, I guess.
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>>573917674
I've been grinding weapons to 25 and that's exactly how I feel about this garbage.
>Needs 3-5 shots to stun an enemy
>Or it doesn't
>Any other weapon is a kill
>Death is the ultimate stun effect
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>>573921440
idk but last time I checked DCS was just short of cracking their heads with one shot. so this having 20 more damage should just make the cut
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>>573920805
>or how the aim goes all over when cycling rounds
Yeah that shit sucks, I think meleeing helps cancel it at least
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>>573920980
>They need to buff the hell out of the AMR.
They did retard.
Also harpoon has shit for ammo compared to the AMR
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>>573920714
i dont spam off topic tr*nime where it doesnt belong
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>>573920714
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243026091216/76561197993853021
How about you prove it yourself.
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>>573921543 me
yup
rupture warrior head: 110 hp armor 3
DCS damage to the head: 109 at short range
Hyena damage to the head: 119 at short range
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>Ran an experiment where I didnt play the game for the entire MO but opened it once and didnt even play an OP or dive
>Still got the weapon
This is the fomo you fags were complaining about?
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>>573914270
i'm literally using the hyena for free right now
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>>573920714
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>>573915225
Squid front (vanilla and mindless). Bring the plasma accelerator rifle. It mogs fleshmobs and oversaars. It's also ok as a plan-B tier option for killing harvester leg joints. Bring the XMG for close range combat vs everything that isn't a harvester. A +reload speed armor is recommended. I've been using the stylish reinforced epaulette armor because I hate the look of horse armor and honestly ammo has never been a concern between the plas rifle, squid tilesets, and having the XMG.
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I am pleasantly surprised with how fast this thing reloads. It's a lot faster than dilligence/dcs no?
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>>573918568
>hit quickplay
>get sent to a lobby like this
>host instantly locks in spawning on the extraction point for his ebin safe landing spot
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

At least the /hdg/ lobbies have big enough balls to hot drop onto the fortress. It might be spicy for a minute then it's smooth sailing from there.
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>>573921212
Idk man
>Deals with the same enemies as the AMR
>Fart cloud confuses groups of enemies
>Harpoon destroys all spawners
>Has a crosshair
Most tranny AMR users use the supply pack anyway so ammo isn't an issue.
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>>573922351
>ot drop onto the fortress
based, I wish I was good enough to play with you guys
t. d4 shitter
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>>573922373
nah all the AMRfags nowadays are warp crutching
speargays on the other hand are definitely into supply diapers
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>>573922373
posting that canadian faggot has convinced me to stop talking to you
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>>573922494
Come join us.
D10 isn't even that hard
I'll protect you anon-kun
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243026091216/76561197993853021
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>>573922373
>needing a crosshair for hipfiring
I don't type this often, but git gud you fuck.
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>>573922494
The secret is that it is easier to to drop onto the fortress than it is to assault it from the ground. Literally all of the defensive turrets are arrayed to repel attackers pushing into the fortress on foot from outside. Those defenses are completely nullified if you just drop onto the fortress. Most of the fabricators in the fortress can be destroyed by landing on them with your hellpod. Toss a few red stratagems around after landing. A few strafing runs or gatling barrages at the other fabricators. Maybe an OPS/120mm barrage/500kg/laser at a detector tower if it's present. The fortress is dead before the first bot drop can even arrive. It might be a bit spotty whether or not you can get your footing enough to successfully call in and equip support gear, but with the fortress dead you can just respawn and call it in to help fight off the bot drop.

It's also just easier to kill fortresses/mega nests as your first target. Patrols are not as fierce at the start of a match. It is much easier to attack a fortress/mega nest right at the start of the match instead of making the mistake of saving it for after the main objective is complete.

The only sour spot is if a jammer happens to be within range of the fortress. That is a bit unfortunate when it happens.
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>>573921825
3/4
hurry!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243026091216/76561197993853021
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Truth coconut: peak physique should have its ergo bonus slashed in half
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>>573923338
why
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>>573913980
Cultists major update next week trust the plan
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>>573922792
>git gud you fuck
It's a minor issue but still an inconvenience. I'm not a poor fag so I can just enable the crosshair built into my monitor. But should I? It's a dumb style choice because "hurrr durrr it's a sniper"
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>>573923605
I don't like how it simply lets you bypass one very crucial aspect of a weapon. Makes it too much of a no brainer for poorly handling guns, at least on bugs and squids. Still would be strong if nerfed but not this dominant
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>>573913980
>HD1 Illuminate
>not tanky
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new MO doko
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>>573924193
you need more??
such ungrateful toxic playerbase...
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>>573924193
tomorrow along with the new content and a warbond trailer
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I like the breaker incendiary with the duckbill muzzle
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>>573915225
Yes, the other day I saw an entire lobby using the AMR against bots because it was the PO
was pretty cool, wish the game facilitated it as a viable play style
>>
There is, somehow, still no loadouts
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>>573918568
they should let you draw on the map in-game
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>>573924327
@chat is this true?
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>>573921932
>>573921408
Newfags
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>>573924637
I like it when you don't post in my thread you fucking piece of shit
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>>573924985
employment status?
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>>573924992
I will post in it again when you let your guard down for just a split second
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>>573925052
I work as a nepo baby and a high ranking trust fund kid
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>>573924985
i have my reddit creek cape so i am an honorary oldfaggot
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>>573922494
Dropping on fortresses was only tuff for a short time 2 years ago when gaymites were still weak
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>check out gun
>it's dogshit
>go back to using Deadeye
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>>573925168
why do you play swedish bideo gayms instead of fucking pussy and snorting coke then
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>>573925168
I wish that was me
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>>573925340
my mama and papa didn't raise me that way
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>>573925168
like >>573925340 said,
bro got that minecraft creative difficulty at birth and chooses to play video games
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>>573925183
Fortresses didn't exist as a map config two years ago. Hell that's true of Mega Nests too.
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>>573925340
I'm gay and addicted to tianeptine and kratom
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>>573925543
Escalation of freedom dropped on 2024-08-06. So it's been almost 2 years
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>>573925517
see >>573925476
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>>573925719
Almost 2 years means it was NOT 2 years.
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>>573925924
(you)
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>>573925889
enjoy living life as a regular incel goy I guess?
I know I wouldn't.
>t. average white man working 9-5 earning average salary
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>>573925924
nigger I dont remember when every patch dropped but I remembered it was somewhere around summer holidays. "1 year 11 months and then some" here you go
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what the fuck? Hyena was just silently dropped? why?
I thought it was gonna be a warbond weapon
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>>573926082
you sound bitter
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>>573926193
>silently dropped
>silently
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>>573925168
DIE DIE DIE YOU SCUM
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>>573926332
I've been lost in his emerald eyes for an hour and a half at this point
>bro but I just posted the image NOW it hasnt been 5 minuts
^^^^^bad faith actor
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>>573925091
please don't
I have a family
>>
>No Laser EAT
>No Flamethrower EAT
>No gas EAT
>No shotgun boombox EAT
>No plasma EAT
>No missile EAT
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>>573926601
how about you EAT a salad, fatty?
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>>573920426
Except the Deadeye is only useful if you specifically can't do that?
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>>573926097
>>573925998
Uncultured philistines. Go play more video games you whiny fucks.
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>>573926601
>>No Flamethrower EAT
Huh
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>>573926476
He's an envious demonic entity, allow yourself to be beguiled at your peril
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I don't get it, if the AR medpen suffers from low damage due to medpen tax, then why their marksman counterpart has easily twice the damage than their lightpen cousins
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>>573926751
destroyed that nigga
>>
that ergo is so TRASH holy SHIT
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>>573926920
>marksman counterpart has easily twice the damage than their lightpen cousins
>diligence: 165, vs 220 = 33% more damage
>amendment: 200dmg, vs 220 = 10% more damage
?
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>>573927350
I assume he's talking about durable damage but he might just be rarted
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>>573926920
AH punishes babbies using med pen and who can't aim
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Gun
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>"No bro, if you're rich and privileged, you MUST destroy your body with drugs and hanging out with whores and ruin your family name and reputation!"
Is this how poor people think rich people function?
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>>573927350
>>573927463
It's just a figure of speech, I'm just saying they have more base damage than some of the lightpen
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>>573927554
fuuuck I just took my pants off
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>>573927554
2/4
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>>573927562
>Instead destroys his "body" and "reputation" (fuck does he need these for anyway) by sitting on a computer all the time like a boss
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>>573927554
full
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New gun's okay
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>>573926920
Buffniggers' fault who kept complaining weewoo their lightpen liberator doesn't remove everything on sight. AH buffed light pen damage but forgot their med pen equivalents.
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>redownloaded the game
>delete it 5 minutes after
it's over for me, im washed and tired
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what kinda cat is that
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>>573927562
If you truly have the money you would be able to use some high-class drugs for fun and then just get fixed up and private doctors if something bad happens
>whores
plenty of high-class escorts who will suck your dick three times a day and lie to everyone that they are your girlfriend. once you get bored, get a new one or take a break and tell others it didn't work out.

choosing to live like an average joe is nuts while having money is nuts.
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>>573902692
>>573902692
Jackle Sniper (For the nod to halo) I don’t care that Hyena is already a sniper)…more seriously Jackle name would probably be best fit on an smg.


Fennic Pistol (bcuz Smol)

>>573920643
the naming theme for these incendiary guns isn’t just supposed to be ‘dogs’ it’s specifically deserts.
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>>573927612
you don't need pants to play helldivers anon nobody would notice
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>>573928213
furry
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>>573928042
new thing bad
old thing good
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>>573921819
Rent free normie
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>>573928213
fanmade abdoslop armor, its pretty good
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>>573928479
abdoslop sucks
this one is the only even remotely passable when viewer from the front because of the original armor's angles
the ass is just cartoonish
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>regular bots
>moon kino
Yep, it's diving time.
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>>573928581
>the ass is just cartoonish
in vacuum, yes, but get a backpack on yourself and dont use cape removing mods and it all blends during normal gameplay but you still get to enjoy a nice view when prone from time to time

theres a mod for redacted armors to make them actually mcdonalds thick on the waist too if you are interested into something realistic.
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>>573928981
>but get a backpack on yourself and dont use cape removing mods and it all blends during normal gameplay
it really doesn't
it's still ass inflation fetish tier
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>>573926332
If they don't make a Steam post then it's a silent drop
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>>573928213
>Medium
>Stealth armor
Never understood the appeal of this armor besides drip.
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Just rewatched Fury Road. New belt fed stratagem idea.

>Hellraiser
An electric guitar connected to a large speaker. "Fire" it to rock out to High Command approved tracks of Freedom. Provides massively increased stagger resistance, and moderatly increased damage resistance to any friendly unit in A 35 meter radius (also improves accuracy of nearby SEAF troops).
The backpack can run out of energy but you can pick up ammo packs and supply packs to recharge it. Comes with a flamethrower alt fire that uses a separate magazine (same capacity as the Torcher)
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>>573919615
GGs
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>>573929242
drip is the only real reason to use this on regular missions really
on actual stealth missions everyone obviously uses light stealth armor for autistic perfection
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>>573929242
I personally appreciate more options. Armor passives being exclusive to a single amor class sucks.
The rationale for medium stealth is simple, imo: If(when) stealth *does* break, that +50 armor will do a lot of heavy lifting in keeping you alive.
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New gun good, Grug like
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how does fire damage work. does it only hurt main hp?
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Day 26 of not playing this game. I do not like the way your Helldiver dramatically flops to the ground and ragdolls like a sack of potatoes every time you take even a tiny bit of damage.
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>>573929554
yes
it has 1:1 durable ratio so a t1 fire will deal 100hp per sec to the main with no negotiations in between
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>>573929824
>>573929554
It deals AP4 damage and scales based on enemy size (typically). Some enemies have ap3 or 4 base health.

Flamethrowers also deal direct damage to the part they hit. So you can cut off a bile titans head with it
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What am I in for?
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>>573929374
>he didn't get a piece of shrapnel blow directly into his head
shit webm
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>>573929118
THIS
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>>573930110
removing the x10 scope and muzzle brake as soon as you're able to
probably rolling with the short mag as well
something in between of a deadeye and coyote that does neither role particularly well
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>>573928213
Only good abdo, shame it's on a shitty passive

>>573929256
Cool
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>>573930110
good bug gun
hmmmmmmmm bot/squid gun
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>>573930110
pure unfiltered dogshit
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>>573930151
yeah I was expecting that too lol 0/10 webm
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>no angled grip
It's shit.
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>moooooooooom I need my angled penis in my hand or i will dieeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>573930507
>>573930618
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>>573930618
>he doesnt have the Hyena
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Hyena is fine to pop bugs from a distance but id rather fight em head on with a Coyote
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>>573930715
epic reading comprehension fail
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>>573930715
When she uses her horn on me it gets bright red and then i procced to rape her
thoughts?
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Is the Hyena serviceable? Can you have fun with it? Please consider: For me, it doesn't have to be in the same league as the crutches-for-shitters-weapons like Ultimatum or RR to be serviceable.
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>>573930151
Because that only happens in scripted webms.
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>>573930958
read up
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>>573930958
yes, it's perfectly serviceable
think of it as a dominator
you just need to grind for the short mag and a lesser scope to give it a better ergo value
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I think the Hyena is what happened to the thermite dominator
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>>573930958
pop niggas
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I want to put the hyena in my hole...
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>>573931238
do knot do that
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>>573928319
You don't know how much money that it is. For all you know it's "live a middle class lifestyle, except without the wage slaving part" money and not "daddy warbucks let's buy a yacht full of hookers" money. Burning money on flashy shit is a good way to become broke.
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the furries are here already, /hdg/ has been compromised!
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>>573930918
I solely want you to know that I understand the reference, and appreciate your good taste.
You make MY horn blue.
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>>573931354
we've got like half a dozen resident furfags where have you been
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>>573931354
And they'll be sure to keep their heads down if they know what's good for them like always.
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>>573931354
anon there are at least five faggots who post on /hmofa/ over at trash
I could namedrop at least three of them but we've got standards here
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>>573929256
Fuck off. This isn't Fortnite.
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Imagine angled grip and short mag combo on the Hyena, fucking swede niggers just can't help themselves
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is there like a table of enemy burn 'thresholds'?
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>>573930958
>Is the Hyena serviceable? Can you have fun with it?
yes, if you're not a hysterical hyperbolic faggot that cries over the tiniest thing you'll find it to be fine
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Megafactories are back on the menu
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>>573931023
But the dominator has more damage, and more importantly durable damage.
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>>573931763
and hyena has dot+actual bullet speed
they're not exactly the same, just similar enough
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>>573931487
>/hmofa/
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>>573931630
>snow kino factories again
Yeah it's time.
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The only changes I'd make to the maxi-gun are increasing it's damage slightly so it's the same as the MMG and getting rid of the wind-up time before firing it.
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>>573931630
>can't play on my favorite bot planet anymore
fuck
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>>573931763
Big thing that makes Hyena superior on bugs in particular is that it reloads fast.
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>>573931874
I just don't see the point. If I'm using a DMR style weapon, then I am precision targeting a lethal component to kill a target without needing to brute force through MAIN. Why the fuck would I sacrifice damage output for a dot that just hits MAIN?
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>>573930715
What is Raka doing in HD2 general?
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>>573932017
because you will still miss some of your shots
DOT lets you ignore your target after you've missed the head twice
no one's forcing you to use it but some shitter players will probably enjoy it
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>>573931969
let me dive with it
give more ammo to make up for the rounds wasted in bodies and invsible hitboxes
more durable damage
increase the rpm
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Why is the Hyena's ergo SO BAD? It's worse than the AMR.
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>>573932310
because it starts with
>a x10 scope
>an extended magazine
>a muzzle brake
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>>573932369
>can't even take a foregrip
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>>573932145
I like the identity it has where you have to be careful with where you start shooting from, even if that makes it worse than a lot of support weapons (a lot of which I'm not interested in using because they're too strong). The ammo is fine, you just have to be a bit careful with managing it. Honestly, the game might benefit from reduced ammo on a lot of the weapons because it would force teams to stick together for the resupply. More durable damage IDK. I don't really know the ins and out of the durability system. As long as the damage is the same as the MMG it'll be fine. The RPM is good where it is, but i guess adjustable RPM would be nice.
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>>573932497
maximizing ergo puts it at 41 ergonomics.
the stalwart has 40, for comparison
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>>573932531
Durable damage is 90% the reason why this game has an explosive weapon meta.
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>>573932832
Honestly I think the main reason people use explosive weapons is because they require less aim.
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>>573932929
Durability really cucks a lot weapons out of a TON of damage. But explosive weapons just do full damage to durable targets. Alexus did not think that system all the way through.
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>>573932832
>>573933063
durability only matters on heavies and like 2 medium enemies
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>>573928479
>>573930212
>abdo
>good
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>>573932832
>blah blah blah
90% of the playerbase is retarded and will choose the path of the least resistance
explosive weapons are retardedly easy to use because of their aoe so people will gravitate towards them
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>>573933104
all kinds of enemies have durable shit on them it can absolutely shift breakpoints
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>>573933274
not enough to make it significantly worse. we're talking 1 to 2 shots on chaff other than brood commanders and rocket strider legs
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>>573933274 me
But it doesn't really 'cuck' weapons like the other retards are saying
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>>573933104
Durable damage is what lets a explosive weapon like a purifier just faceroll into "oops all bile spitters" or mag dump a charger ass in a pinch. Then there's enemies like fleshmobs where the fact that the explosive damage hits multiple hitboxes to multiply damage output makes explosive king. Then we've got stuff like digbugs where explosives is how we interact with their digging. They've made explosives the master key against everything except a small handful of shit like harvesters that are just fully immune to explosives on their hitbox components.
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>>573933446
>Durable damage is what lets a explosive weapon like a purifier just faceroll into "oops all bile spitters" or mag dump a charger ass in a pinch
congrats you identified two of the few enemies where it matters. how much does the 20% durability on warriors matter? or the 30% on heavy devastator legs? very few chaff have any great amount of durability on parts that seriously impact the performance of non-explosive weapons against them
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>>573933446
I really hate the explosive gimmick on the rupture bugs. I don't know what they were thinking with that. Maybe they realized that everyone took the grenade pistol on bugs and wanted to design a faction that would require and drain tons of explosives, which is a decent idea, but making the basic warriors require grenades to be killed took the idea way too far. Fleshmobs, however, are good where they are. Their identity as a unit is being heavy enemies weak to chaff-clear. Weapons like the grenade launcher should be good against them.
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>Every "new" map/ biome is a an uncreative rehash tile swap.
Imagine if this game had someone with a little creativity or passion designing maps? Why the fuck don't we have more vertical terrain? I want a map that's just going up or down a ship/bug nest or whatever.
>Game can't do that.
Then fucking make it.
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>>573934184
>but making the basic warriors require grenades to be killed took the idea way too far
easily
killed easily
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>>573933446
mag dumping a chargers ass in a pinch is something you preferably dont have to do at all. overall explosions often only damaging main HP evens things out as far as muh durable daymage goes. the important aspect is AOE, not durable damage
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>>573934203
I don't trust them to do it cause against bots on maps with high vertical areas I've seen dropships accidentally clip into the ground and kill divers as they swoop down. But I do agree it'd be cool to see more unique stuff like that.
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>>573934203
Game can do that no problem,
the problem is that the core gameplay is balanced around helldivers NOT having access to most highpoints as having vertical advantage in helldivers is gamebreaking.
As such, they can't have real(tm) verticality unless they redesign everything from the starts, which is never ever happening.
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They're getting into EoS for this game, aren't they? We haven't had any news of Warbonds in months, and they're tying every plot off with things like Termicide walls and the Illuminate conquering the entire galaxy because they're so boring to fight.
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>>573934250
The problem with them on launch was that they would just burrow up to you and get a guaranteed hit unless you knocked them with explosives. The only real way to fight them was with a grenade launcher or an auto cannon. You couldn't rely on your normal grenades because even one rupture warrior staying underground meant you would get hit.
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>>573933983
It sounds like you're trying to make a point. But you're missing that for all of those things explosives are the meta for different reasons. You never know if you're going to get a bile spewer seed, and chargers will always be present. Explosives give you answer to those medium and heavy opponents no matter what. You don't need the durable damage vs the chaff, but now the explosive damage radius of explosive radius makes explosives meta vs the chaff. The only reason not to spam the fuck out of explosives on the bug front is if you can't break the habit of accidentally shooting stuff point blank.

>>573934336
You shouldn't need to, but having a primary weapon that can delete a charger in a pinch is a useful trick to have in your bag of tricks. It goes for bile titans too. Biletitans are vulnerable to this too. Push comes to shove a purifier can blow away their underside flesh where normal weapons get absolutely cucked by 80% durability. There are very few enemies in this game that are resistant to explosives.
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>>573933104
Sure but heavies are the most important enemies on every front
>ehhhhhh but they only affect, like, two enemies
And those are the most important enemies to deal with
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>>573934549
>any news of Warbonds in months
Goyhammer collab, tourist-kun.
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no warbond trailer tomorrow either btw
just the campaign teaser
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>>573932676
I still don't think that its base ergo should be worse than the AMR.
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>>573935382
Which we have received no info on since they announced it. Months ago...
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>>573934859
generally taking these enemies out with primaries means you dont have better things to do/don't have chaff breathing down your neck. its nice but doesn't matter if the team is decent, they should be dead before you start running circles around charger's ass
explosives are strong but not necessarily because of durable damage and durable damage doesn't 'cuck' any convenctional primaries
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Have you guys considered playing other games instead of begging for endless mod packs for 10 dollars?
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>>573934549
sorry goy, too busy hunting cheaters to fix bugs or create new content :))) now buy 10000 SC okay?
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>>573935781
Modern gamers play the same game they hate every day instead of just playing something else. They're like battered wives.
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I hate that leakers are stringing people along with the hope of Cultists, its really shitty
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>>573935382
It's been months since anything was done with the game. There is no way anyone is actually working on this shit besides whatever mercs they outsource.earnings to. The fucking corpse bug is still a thing ffs. Some oil Prince needs to buy the game and give it the support it should have.
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>>573934859
>>573932832
>Durable damage is 90% the reason why this game has an explosive weapon meta.
the thing that makes explosives so good against chaff is the AoE, not the durable damage (with the exception being bile spewers and brood commanders). Yes, part of what makes explosives good against heavies is their 100% durable damage ratio since heavies are very highly durable across most of their parts, but only if those explosives have the penetration to match or beat the armour and the AoE to overlap enough parts unless you're shooting at specific weakspots of the lighter heavies like hulk heatsinks and charger butts

this game has an explosive meta because as you identified many enemies are countered by it but most of that is because of the AoE, and because explosives are easy and convenient. those heavies that explosives are good against are also dealt with by heavy weapons that work through projectile damage. The RR's 150 damage 3 pen secondary explosion is a complete non-factor against heavies.
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i havent booted the game in about a month, if i do it right now do i get the new gun?
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>>573936176
you're too late
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>>573936176
No. Its only accessible to those who participated during the campaign. You'll probably be able to get it when they put it in the superstore along with the new warbond.
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>>573936176
you got the MO side of FOMO
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>>573927554
gg
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>>573936349
lol
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>>573936058
Are months shorter for you guys? In the last few months they added the Bastion tank, the cyborgs, the new spore-burst bugs, the appropriators, Automaton cities, New missions and maps for the illuminate, and more stuff that I can't list off the top of my head.
>>573936314
Why are you people obsessed with this headcanon. What indicates that it will be added to the superstore?
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>>573936418
>Why are you people obsessed with this headcanon.
because it fits the narrative they want to push
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>>573936418
How else are they gonna add it for people who didn't participate? It certainly isn't gonna be in the warbond.
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>>573934549
This is sonys only successful """""live""""" service game, there is zero chance they would let anything like that happen
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Why do swedes think we want to fight squids for 5+ straight days on a single planet to defend an exostorm?
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>>573935984
It's been two and a half years and we've already gotten multiple confirmations that they're gone, why are they still trying to string people along with fake shit now
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>>573937594
What do you mean, modern "live service" games are only supposed to run for about one to two years, shutting down once they've extracted every last dollar from it.
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>>573938318
>multiple confirmations
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Helldrivers announcement tomorrow
TRUST
THE
PLAN
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>>573935984
Thordan will recycle the same slop and lies endlessly with daily sloptube uploads until the heatdeath of the universe.
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Played D10 with randoms today after a very long time and to me it's crazy how
>everyone brings AT support weapons
>but literally all heavies kept running around unless I took care of them personally with eagles and pissile
>I'm still the only person in the mission doing side and main objectives, so unless I clear them, nobody does
Like what?
And anons unironically say /hdg/ and pubbies are the same? You are lying, anons at least do side objectives while grouping up and fighting the same reinforcements in a corner.
Basically day 1 pubbies and today pubbies are literally the same, for the exception of the game being easier, so they die less.
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>>573938594
Dadbod diver
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>>573938594
>redditor wrote the passive
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>>573938594
>exposed arms slop
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>>573938909
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>almost 1/4 of the playerbase bugchasing
>every single planet on the front holding for reinforcements (besides Bore Rock, whcih is still losing all the progress made during MO)
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cared enough to reply award
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>>573936314
>You'll probably be able to get it when they put it in the superstore along with the new warbond.
anon i they cannibalized the warbond and they are drip feeding us the warbond content
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>>573938594
>armour made for shitters that should be changing the difficulty
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>>573939909
Plebbit was chimping out over the FOMO stuff. Surely they'll bring back the FRV and hyena in some capacity. The swedes are desperate for good optics and they can't keep fucking up like this.
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Trying out new gun
bots, or bugs
lobby decides
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two in one thread lmao
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>>573941198
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243044466237/76561198141964882
my genius sometimes frightens me.
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ggs sorry I had to leave early
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>>573941350
3/4
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>>573940937
Yeah, I think anyone with at least two braincells should realize that they're going to give a way to obtain any "missed" content, which will probably be through warbonds released later. Like the Hellzone one.
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new tranny rifle feels usable on bugs
how is it on bots?
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>>573941350
FULL!
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>>573942040
I'll let you know in ~2 hours
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>>573941878
My money is on them adding them to the superstore at some point.
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how do I feel about the new rifle?
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Rock steady or Unflinching?
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>>573943183
prostate massage
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>>573943163
*i want some peanuts*
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>>573943163
Baseline ergo is way too high compared to the AMR.
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>>573943183
Unflinching for bug
Rock steady for bot
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>>573943163
it's fine. it does its job
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>>573943163
no reason to take it over any other marksman rifle
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>>573924110
you could easily mow down hordes of illuminate without any kind of anti-tank or heavy-pen weaponry. the basic breaker could deal with most of them. even their bigger units like obelisks were unarmored and easy to take down.
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>>573943985
it's different while not being worse. that's all the reason anyone should need
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>>573943163
its a let down and after its on lvl 25 it will never be touched again
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>>573944152
>not being worse
extremely debatable depending on how you use your primary
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>>573943163
not bad not terrible
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>>573944152
It's worse than the Censor for popping Automaton heads, worse than the Deadeye for popping Illuminate heads, and doesn't quite cut the mustard on the armored bugs with its low ergo, poor RoF, and limited ammunition.
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>>573942370
gg I keep forgetting to bring nukes to flag missions for the all berserker dropships.
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>>573944574
>worse than the Deadeye for popping Illuminate heads,
every marksman rifle is
>and doesn't quite cut the mustard on the armored bugs with its low ergo, poor RoF, and limited ammunition.
DCS has the same ergo and same ammo count while having less damage
dilgience and censor both don't have the damage to even 1 shot warrior heads so its higher ammo count doesn't factor
amendment has bad ergos too but it's also light pen so not exactly good against "the armored bugs"
constitution is lol, lmao even
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>>573944070
>breaker
thanks for confirming you don't play the game
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Weapons should be balanced around breakpoints and any co-op shooter developer who still fails to understand this in 2026 needs a boot to the face.
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>>573944574
cut the mustard?
who does that?
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That giant 3/4 pound compensator looks so cool but I have to take it off to ergomaxx and reduce the sway.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3xrEDN3Muk
Rest in piss attachment system
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>>573945127
The point is that you shouldn't be taking Marksman Rifles to bugs, anon. You should be taking assault rifles, smgs, medium pen shotguns, or similar. Against the bugs, the Hyena is objectively worse than the Coyote.
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buy an ad
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buy an ad
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>>573945176
Nothing does, because taking marksman rifles to bugs is retarded.
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>>573945226
>take the muzzle off
>gun looks like shit
>take 10x scope off
>gun looks like shit
>leave everything as it's
>gun feels like shit
We just can't win
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>>573941960
>ABRL
let me guess, 6 accidentals?
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>>573946762
Was so close to letting one go at the landing pad at the last second but it was a spotless performance so I held back.
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Big things happening tomorrow. Trust the plan
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>>573947636
you said that last week
and the week before that
and the week before that
and the week before that
Why do you keep lying to me, Anon? Do our shared memories mean nothing to you?
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What is the durable damage on the maxigun? Does it have good or bad durable damage?
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>>573948007
18
bad but it's supposed to make up for it with the volume of fire
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>join quickplay d10
>near end of mission, only last step of main objective and 2 outposts nearby
>clear all that stuff
>everyone starts running to evac
>bug breech mid way, that is easily ignorable, it's like a 20 second run farther to evac
>2 people stay to fight it
>me and other dude go to evac
>other dude calls evac
>me and him killing bugs near evac
>eventually evac gets a breech
>we're just chilling barbecuing them
>what feels like an hour later the other 2 finally show up
>pelican has been landed for awhile not waiting for us
>bug breech cleared out, barely any bugs left at all
>other dude goes in
>i go in
>other 2 people, just don't go in
>1 second before pelican leaves I get kicked by the host
lmao, not like it accomplishes anything.
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>>573948007
22% which is like 1 to 2% below standard
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>>573947636
>snow forest biome gets added on bot front
>gets blown up by clank star first thing
this gming style is really unique
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PLACE YOUR BETS ON TOMORROW'S EPIC CAMPAIGN REWARD
>grenade
>cape
>a reskinned armor set with a reused passive
>stalwart battlement
>incendiary grenade launcher
>the other grenade
>another primary!!!!
I AM SO EXCITED I COULD CUM
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>>573948803
They will most definitely continue recycling the entire racing themed warbond that was suppose to be out by now. Leakers and negative reviews raped them so hard they had to cannibalize the WB to appease the community.
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>>573948803
>MG emplacement
>burst fire pistol
>B-01 reskin with more pouches (not siege ready)
>expendable jetpack
>stunflower bloom grenade
>stim grenade
>space china lake grenade launcher
Coming up with these is easy when you don't have to hold to a warbond concept
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>>573949318
>implying they will go through the effort of doing any of these when they've got perfectly serviceable low effort stratagems decaying in the game from day 1
>med pack
>stalwart wall
>incel grenade launcher
>eagle AAM
>that other green emplacement that never got textures
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>>573948803
havent had a secondary yet so ombudsman
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>>573949447
What does AAM stand for?
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>>573949569
air to air missile
it got delayed a long time because for the longest time game couldn't cope with memory leaks of some kind when you shot down too many dropships
and they wouldn't track properly half of the time
not to mention it'd hit the engines the few times it'd be accurate which does fuckall unless the dropship's carrying nothing but troopers and rocket striders
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There's so many possible stratagem ideas that are just effect swaps, like a gas barrage or a railstrike barrage, and they just barely trickle new things.
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>>573948803
I'd rather they fix the other half of servo-assisted first. Cause if not, increase the throw range to 50%.
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>>573948803
>incendiary grenade launcher
Give it pyrotech sparks and I'm in.
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>>573949953
early leak videos had it firing impact incendiaries
but solo silo was df50 then so you never know
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>>573935816
Aren't most of SC Cheat methods Broken anyway?
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Returned to the game because my current games are boring me and now i've found out my account is perma-bricked because I missed the Hyena by a few hours.
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>>573950475
you aint missing much
the gun blows
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Wait when did they add the sway stat to the weapon menu? Or am I just blind?
Kinda diabolical that it's just 2 on every weapon and no matter the muzzle attachment.
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Slophammer warbond better add a Sister of Battle sex mini-game to the bridge considering how much dev-time it's taking up.
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>>573950838
it was always there
nothing you do influences the stat shown
it's useless
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>>573951017
Not surprised honestly.
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>>573951017
Angled grip and removing muzzle devices (if you have one by default) decreases it but you arent told that
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>>573951559
ok nigger retard what I'm saying is that nothing you do changes the number displayed on the screen
it'll always be two (2) despite most guns having their sway at 1.0 value by default
it just don't work right
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>>573951638
absolutely told that loser
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lobby doko
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I will take one for the team.
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bugs steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243052450220/76561198088743
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Thanks, nigga
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>>573952051
truly a reliable negro
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What do you guys think of the campaigns so far
Have they made you want to participate in the MOs more?
I think it's all still pretty underwhelming though I do appreciate not having to pay 400sc for the Hyena
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>>573952084
2/4
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>>573952246
they're a nothingburger but now if the masses fuck up I can get angry for an actual reason
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>>573952246
>underwhelming
yeah
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>>573952084
3/4
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>>573952246
I have low expectations of whatever content Arrowhead come out.
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>>573952084
fvll
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>>573942040
It's *usable*
Feels like a sidegrade to the DCS, which is already mediocre on bots by default, with few unique weak points, bad DPS due to low ergo high recoil and not-great durable damage making targeting medium weak points on tanks slow as shit. It can be used, but you really miss a decent RPM at close range, miss good ergo/recoil for ranged sniping, and miss enough durable damage for medium weak spots.
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243053368630/76561197971197378
D10 Moonkino bots on Curia
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>>573952246
It's far more indepth, though it would be nice if they forced idiots into a proper tutorial that told them how gambits and shit actually worked so we wouldn't spend more time on a defense mission when a liberate could be faster. Like actually put a symbol on the attacking planet as I've found the dumbasses have text boxes that sometimes obscure the movement arrows.
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>>573942040
one taps hunters and warriors no matter where you hit. heck of a shotgun
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>>573953404
3/4
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>>573951638
>number doesn't change
>here's how you can actually change it in spite of that
>NUMBER. DON'T. CHANGE.
The nigger retard is you.
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>>573953404
>>573953697
FVLL
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>>573952246
On paper, it's nice to see MOs being tied together to give the illusion of overall progress.

In practice, it's worse because Joel will always force us to lose one of the first two MOs in a campaign, simply because we always need the Nail Biter. All it does is teach us to ignore one-third of the MOs in a given campaign because the results don't matter beyond winning two out of three.
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>>573950878
>Calling something slop
>Porn addict
Clockwork
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>>573953863
you can't be this retarded.
they are saying that no matter what attachments you put on or take off the value displayed doesn't change. it will always be displayed as 2 regardless of what the actual true value is behind the scenes. the number on the screen doesn't change even if the actual sway of the weapon is changed. do you get it now?
not to mention the value isn't even correct to begin with since nearly all weapons have 1 sway, not 2.
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>>573953863
Bruh we were talking about the menu as I said at the start when asking, fucking calm down, we know about the actual sway in mission.
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>>573954568
>>573954679
You're a barely functional third-world retard that can't fucking comprehend what he's reading and has to samefag to back up your overreaction while accusing others of an overreaction.
It doesn't matter if the number shown doesn't change, the post you blew up at pointed out it fucking changes behind the scenes.
Suck-start a shotgun and stop stealing oxygen.
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What if I made a discord ?
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>>573952246
i stopped playing due to the retards fragging each other so bad in public lobbies they had to make it boot you into your own solo instance when you just frag them back.

Its fun playing solo and a shame that the gameplay is based around hit & run tactics while shilling itself as having epic final stands that do nothing but waste helldivers.
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>>573955147
You have to put on a skirt first.
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>>573955147
>french
>faggot
figures
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>>573932123
but it doesn't? it has the same breakpoints as dcs on bots and fire dot doesn't do enough
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>>573952246
Railroaded dogshit that no longer influences where I go unless a weapon or strat is tied to it.
>B-but this picture and wall of text (that sometimes works!).
Don't care.
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>>573952246
>Have they made you want to participate in the MOs more?
I get bored of diving in the same environment after one full operation and then I move to a different one if I feel like playing more. The innate mechanics of the Galactic War and MO system don't seem like they'll ever be able to address this.
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>>573943163
I feel nothing, because it's just another marksman rifle with dogshit ergo and unsatisfying damage.
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>>573943163
I'm enjoying it now that I have its ergo in check :3
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>>573943163
It's mid and disappointing after all the MO
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>>573945143
???
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Why everytime i open the game, the nguard anticheat page opens as well?
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>>573952246
They solely exist to make redditfags and Snoystation chimps bored so they'll beg for content behind warbonds again
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>>573943163
>okay damage
>abysmal ergo
>takes 3 shots to set things on fire so you can, at best, set 5 niggas on fire per mag
>very possibly gutted after AH was forced to canibalize the warbond
6/10, I can feel Sham's unbridled seethe whenever I pull the trigger
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Lobby doko
Or Do I play Elden Sneed
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>>573957817
>>very possibly gutted after AH was forced to canibalize the warbond
source: schizo delusions
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>>573956934
they are killing you tomorrow
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hehe I played
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>>573959231
/hdg/ in shambles
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did they change something on bots? started playing again from year break and now they seem easier?
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>>573952084
ggs
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>>573958984
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>>573952084
sorry for diping early
I'm not taking any risks on my retard dog eating broken glass off the floor
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content tomorrow
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>>573960016
the only content you're getting is another slop campaign with an underwhelming reward
no patch; xbox would've preloaded it by now
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warbond doko
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>>573960161
not like this...
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>>573952246
I would rather buy the slopbonds with cheated SC, desu
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>>573960546
thats illegal why are you stealing from an indie developer
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>haha the warbond planned for june needs a bit more time in the oven to be purrrrfect :D
>3 weeks l8r
you're not polishing it anymore you're just grinding it down
there's nothing left
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>anon being a nigger >>573952029
>anon being a homie and tanking it >>573952051
>lobby posted 19 seconds later >>573952084
Wholesome general
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>>573960673
Arrowhead can go indieeze nuts.
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>>573953404
>>573953697
>>573953865
gg bros, 2nd mission was intense at the end, I counted at least 3 chain bot drops right on the extraction.
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>bots
>intense
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>>573952084
GGs brapGAWDs and MGXisters
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>>573960673
>paying 10$ for maybe one good weapon or stratagem
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ggs that was some cyberstan levels of botspam
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I'm going to sleep.
Please have the content ready by the time I wake up, /hdg/.
Thank you.
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Damn the reload on the hyena is so slick, and it sounds so cool too
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>>573962085
the tranny cabal has already said the weapon is shit sorry
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Sex with the PA system voice
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>>573943163
It's just ok with peak physique. Just use the coyote
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HMG + gun dog
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"It's up"
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>>573960016
I hate having fun then get nerf later gameplay...it remind me of League of Legends.
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>>573963576
im guessing thats some fortnite content?
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Moon is decidedly the best looking biome in this game
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You appear to be losing.
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>>573961449
Here it is
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>>573967243
very cute.
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>>573967243
Yannit is cute and I really hope she doesn't die
A warbond based around calling down and controlling bug units would be kino.
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the hyena sucks actually
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Unsurprisingly the limited to 3 shit has completely neutered the mega factories beyond recognition
Fuck sweden
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>>573969296
All they did was listen to the playerbase :)
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>>573969296
its so sad I'll have to wait 8 months to dive on cyberstan again and appreciate the unique environment without being nailed by ground to ground vertical launch missiles every 3 seconds
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>>573969296
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>>573969296
There has to be a balance between the current limit and being harassed by vox the entire fucking match
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>Liмited to 3
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Give the Hyena angled grip option and make it set stuff on fire in 1 shot
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Limited to pee
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Thermite is still better than Giga grenade
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>bounces off a flat surface at random
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>>573970984
yeah, i ran it for like 15 missions and the loss of reliable heavy one shots and one less grenade are just not worth the aoe clear because chaff is not for nades anyway.
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>>573971136
Dynamite does everything.
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>>573970984
on opposite day maybe
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>>573971523
does it stick?
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>>573970984
>bounces two thermite off a charger before a giga grenade kills it
sure
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>check youtube
>sloptuber glazing the new tranny rifle
>check their video
>"omg goys, it's so peak goys, it's the best gun in the game right now goys, n-not because it's new and I'm being biased or anything!"
>all of them also rocking peak physique armor to mitigate the abysmal dogshit ergonomic
The joke really writes itself
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>>573971854
This post is gayer than slurping pozzed loads out of your husbands gaping asshole.
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where is he
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Praying the 40k warbond comes with a voice pack
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>>573971927
Ew wtf bro, why are you like this?
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>where were u wen dr grant die
>i was at house eating dorito when phone ring
>dr grant is kil
>no
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>>573970482
There really doesn't. Especially when Spear completely trivializes voxes now.
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>>573953863
The simple answer is that Helldivers 2 can't show decimals and always rounds the number up.
So even if something reduces the sway from 2 to 1.2, it'll still say that it's 2 because of their retarded rounding.
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>>573971854
It's even funnier when they're glazing the gun while also using a loadout that has sentries doing all the killing for them. Niggas could have showed up to show off their bare hands as a primary for how little it fucking mattered overall.
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Just had a pub match with a good FRV driver. It was great.
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>>573970482
Old vox engines took an exorbitant amount of resources to kill, particularly since getting close to do the backshots minigame was unfeasible most of the time given how fighting automatons works (and the fact you'd typically have more than one vox up at a time).

The post-nerf engines are easy enough to kill that they could have left them uncapped, though.
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>>573970658
No that would be broken unless you took something else away. Less base ergonomics and more sway would balance it out.
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We've got a pretty good chance to win Keid this time once Orbital Eagle and Heavy Ordnance kick in.
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I wish the MMG was better on bots.
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>>573973334
nigga here talking about a gun being broken when the eruptor and crossbow exists
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>>573973502
Those need rebalances too. The game has gotten too easy.
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>>573973453
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>>573973584
>>573973334
>casually 1 tapping 10 devastators back to back with my light pen Diligence with superior ergonomic and 25 rounds mag
Guess that deserve a nerf too, huh?
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luv my russian dmr
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>>573974072
No, you dont
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>>573974117
it is a godsend on bots
one shots chaff and heads
actually taking advantage of the medpen to deal with side angles, rocket devs are a 3 tap to let the burn finish em off
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>>573973839
Correct. The diligence should take two taps to the head to give the counter sniper an actual reason to exist.
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>>573974563
There's no reason for both the Diligence and the Diligence CS to exist. We don't need this many marksman rifles.

There should be:
>the basic one (Diligence/DCS)
>the stealth one (Censor)
>the heavy one (Deadeye)
>the throwback (Amendment/Constitution)

Anything else should just be weapon mods on the above, with different ammo or whatever. Same goes for all the marginally-different assault rifles and shotguns.
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>>573972840
I'm a decently good FRV drivers, but my biggest problem with it is that being good with the FRV pretty much turns you and the entire team into rundivers. Though I think I'd rather blame that on the dogshit missions that don't really try to put spawns between you and completing the objective.
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Sometimes on squid mechs the amount of patrols that converge on you feels like a squid drop in of itself.
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>>573974221
>one shots chaff and heads
So do the Diligence and Censor? I think every marksman rifle does that.
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>>573973453
Eagle Storm doesn't pause exostorms.
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>>573975308
The drones have very aggressive patrols and move much faster than zombie/overseer patrols do, in addition to frequently bypassing lesser obstacles. They also seem to respawn closer and more frequently.
>>573975384
Just Heavy Ordnance, then, I guess.
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>>573975338
>most guns are more or less different versions of themselves
wowwww
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>>573974563
>"omg the players got too good at the game, should we crank the enemy spawn rate up and release new enemies to counter them?"
>"nah just nerf the guns"
>"also nerf the already great guns to be on par with dogshit guns instead of vice versa so nobody will ever touch them again"
unhinged mentally ill nerf tranny coded post
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>>573975510
Calling the Hyena a "godsend on bots" and then using its ability to one-tap chaff and heads isn't a good argument in its favor, since all marksman rifles do that. It doesn't really offer anything versus automatons that other weapons don't already.
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>>573975308
It's really not even that bad on Keid. Like, because of the exostorm, that planet is in a perpetual sandstorm. All the enemies and our turrets are effectively blinded because of that. You can walk right past most of the enemies on that planet and they won't aggro on you.
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>>573975595
>this one gun overshadows this other gun, how should we balance this
>hurr durr moar enemies
Are you mentally handicapped?
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>>573975919
its a horde shooter no matter the drivel you are trying to spin
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>>573975919
>OMG THE REDEEMER AND VERDICT COMPLETELY OVERSHADOWED THE PEACEMAKER NERF NERF NERFFFFFFFFFFF
Kill yourself tranny
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>>573975630
the incen properties is what makes it s tier
good trigger discipline maximizes ammo efficiency
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The Hyena feels ok and looks cool. And I guess it was free gibs.
I don't understand all the hate.
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>>573976193
Retard.
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>>573976629
I dun like DMRs
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>>573976629
people didn't want a counter diligence sniper that handles like a fucking AMR

they wanted an AMR that handles like a diligence sniper

simple as
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>>573975919
Bro, not everything has to be on par with the basic tools, some guns have the right to be more powerful than the other and that's okay.
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>>573976629
I don't want my single target precise sniper weapon to have the same sway as a fucking heavy machine gun, all marksman rifles should feel snappy
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>>573976421
I am tired of waiting for content too RRchad...
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>>573976724
>>573976960
It feels fine for a primary, though? Are you people complaining simply bad at shooting and bad at the game in general?
It genuinely feels like another of the primary snipers but it looks better.
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Reinforcements should not be a shared resource
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>>573977067
There also should only be 4 reinforcements max in D10
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>>573977057
>Are you people complaining simply bad at shooting and bad at the game in general?
I personally use lib carb to snipe bot heads (keep in mind they need to be 2-tapped) so you would imagine I would be overpowered with the Hyena but I feel like a toddler with 10 hours of in-mission time every time I need to make precise shots with it.
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>>573977057
>well you see, artificially cucking the handling speed of the weapon and make the player constantly fighting the shit ergonomic instead of the enemies is good game design actually
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>>573977147
Also
>maximum screen shake
>HUD off
>smallest FOV

This would make all the "game is too easy" retards get humbled incredibly quick.
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All of you retards should become Destiny developers.
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>>573977230
Thanks for being honest.
>>573977242
Never said it's good game design, just that you are really complaining about a non-issue.
>>573977325
I already play like that and no, it wouldn't humble anyone good at the game.
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>>573977057
You're only cumming yourself over it because it's new, once the hype are over, you will be back to using better guns with less cucked stats
see >>573971854
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the joke here is that (You) watch sloptubers
NIGGER
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d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243076297918
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>>573977436
No? Every primary weapon is literally the same.
If you have a preference in terms of primaries, you are genuinely skill issue'd, ESL-jeet.
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>>573977518
okay Rajeesh lol
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>>573976629
It's a non explosive primary that handles worse than a AMR
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>>573977475
3/4
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>give hyena a try for a legit 6 hours
>fuckass sway
>fuckass ergonomics
>kinda salvagable after modifications
>yeah I guess its alright idk
>equip eruptor
>start raping entire patrols in a single magazine again
I know it is not a fair comparison but man it feels like I am forcing myself to use Hyena instead of using it for fun
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>>573977475
4/4
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>>573977748
b-but according to my reddit headcannon, every primary weapon is literally the same :(
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>>573977242
In exchange for being able to set targets on fire, finishing off weak units, making spore bugs your bitch, I'd say it's worth the tradeoff
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>>573977748
Same, I'm not having fun using the Hyena
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Warbond trailer tonight, right? I mean, it's chewsdy innit?
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>>573977949
The Scythe can do all that and it have infinite ammo
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>>573977949
Nobody is using this on crack bugs dawg be real
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>>573977748
Havent tried it on squid yet but I wanna use it as an overseer killer
Used it on bugs but it felt cumbersome
Hopefully when I get good mods for it itll feel good, only on lvl 6 with it
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>>573979156
It can't 1 tap headshot overseers so that's that.
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>>573977748
Eruptor is op
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>>573979898
Eruptor is so ass.
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>>573978374
its pretty solid on bugs still
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>>573979783
Yeah, i think it's time they nerf overseers some more. They're too tanky and way too hard to kill.
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>>573979991
literally seething lol
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>>573977242
The ergo isn't even the problem for me, it's the dogshit firerate and mid durable damage.
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>>573980231
>10x instead of irons
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>>573980231
hmmm nyo
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>>573980284
go play Arma if you want cock and ball torture
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>>573980390
I already do, but that game actually has a use for 10x scopes beyond weighing down your gun.
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>>573978116
two more weeks
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>>573980467
How scrawny are your arms? Are you Swedish?
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it's pretty good against squids and bugs now with relevant attachments
can't find a reason to use it on bots ever but that's fine
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>>573980094
??
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>>573980390
>Iron sights are "cock and ball torture"
Retard post.
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AH should nerf nerftrannies to put them into their place once and for all.
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>>573981530
Agreed, the game is still way too difficult. We need nother 60 day style patch. D10 should not be this difficult.
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>Ummm X is worse than Y why should i use it?
joyless and mindbroken
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>>573981594
New players should not be locked out from beating D10 just because they aren't good enough.
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>>573982160
our paraplegic playstation gamers should be able to beat d10 just like anyone else and if you think otherwise you're ableist scum
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>Lightning strikes from the exostorm on sand doesn't create fulgurite, just impact craters.
Lame.
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>>573982287
Also, fulgurite that you can break and potentially get samples from. Sure, everyone's already sample maxxed, but the detail that the exostorm creating unnatural fulgurites that Super Earth might be interested in studying samples out of would be neat.
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>>573982287
post a picture of fulgurite rocktism anon
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Unironically all a new player needs is lib pen and recoiless and he becomes a certified D10 rapist
Game is too easy.
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d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243082368029
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New
>>573982749
>>573982749
>>573982749
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>>573982598
>lib pen
not all new players are aimlets



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