>NewsMGQP part III has finally been released. Further information here https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01114724.htmlREAD THE LINKS CAREFULLYhttps://pixeldraincom/u/4ek8KWa6 (3.01 Raw)https://pixeldraincom/u/4CdBetZr (3.04 Raw)https://pixeldraincom/u/f2mDYcL6 (3.05 Raw)https://pixeldraincom/u/pePcyBvE (3.06 Raw)https://files.catbox.moe/s749a9.zip (3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3) (You can use this patch any version of 3.04)https://pastebin.com/3CiEGJRY (3.04 Prepatched Manuel Edition 2.13 + QoL, read the EMME readme)Innocent Rules has been fully translatedNEW Youmaen has finally been fully translated : https://mega.nz/file/5Z1QnDZQ#4fFLCwIIP5xWrs0e8xVptgGHnmYOx8qNY37-PiWtHmcSHRIFT II 2.56 has been mostly translated https://mega.nz/file/KIEAnAAR#gZSP8wYdutRThD3wJkcd1L2mPTgpzUdPyKzdVG4BOKwNew MGQ Wiki: https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/MonsterGirlQuest_WikiNew MGD Wiki: https://monstergirldreams.miraheze.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Dreams_WikiJapanese MGQ Wikis: https://seesaawiki.jp/mqp/Three Charms Lonesome Spirit collab translation has been updated; Link: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/435693950/#q435711784Game guides and resources: https://pastebin.com/D8Bn18pQYou can get the latest translation of the Paradox Part 3 Demo translation files from ArzorX's Bitbucket:https://bitbucket.org/ArzorX/monster-girl-quest-paradox-translation-part-3/downloads/You can get the Part 3 Demo files directly from Fanza here:https://sample9.dmm.co.jp/digital/cg_game/d_310859/d_310859t.zipYou can read a guide on how to apply the patch at ArzorX's Blog here:https://arzorx.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/how-to-manual-patch-the-game-with-the-recent-translations/Get the /mggg/ canon as well as apocryphal savefile for Paradox here (Part 3 ready):https://catbox.moe/c/wa18jyTiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.https://pastebin.com/w87i82zPToroToro Resistance's blog:https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/4710Previous Thread: >>573707457
>>573903608I had just finished baking and gotten thru 3 captches out of nowhere but didn't hit Submit.Good.
I love My Wife Reina!
Why are men like this?
>>573903751I actually didn't know any of this! I only know stuff about fairies and tales of humans and monster loving each other being censored.
>>573903771That's why I tell anons to please wait warmly
>>573903865how will mermaids ever recover
DAMN IT FOXBABA
>>573903865Imagine some ringy dink priate crew of young lads calling their senpai crews they looked up to weaklings for selling under the banner of a woman and how the sea is a man's romance, leaving the pub in a huff the young crew takes to seas with a proclaimation they'll become the pirate kings and the strongest crew in the world and before the seasoned vet and warn them of the true reason why the seas are so dangerous he can already see THAT ship docked next to their own ship bouncing around with hearts coming out of it as the screams settle into erotic moans
I WAS PROMISED A FEAST, NOT TO B E THE FEAST.
>>573904709>GET THESE FUCKING WENCHES OFF ME
>>573904709He let his guard down around succs
>>573903974Witch Village might have been founded by a woman who had thick amount of proto-human blood in her veins(later being called the Witch). The amount of human girls there with innate magic talent is pretty high, might be descendantsof her's.What happened to it in AW is probably because of this history.
>>573904709fool! you fell for the oldest trick in the book!
>>573904709Getting tongue kissed by the Succ who was covered in other men's semen is true coexistence
>>573904709Wait, aren't those just winged women like angels???
>>573905049Angels are pure and noble, like Elves.
>>573904949from her perspective she was covered in the equievelent of breadcrumbs or food leftovers smears on her clothes cuz she's a messy eater.
>>573905479That's why getting used to the taste of other men semen on your Succ wife is true coexistence and tolerance
>>573905049wait arent harpie's just winged women.
I'm hearing rapefes
>>573905404Elves call me slurs
>>573904709I would have preferred the Mayor or Witch. They might be succubus hags, but at least they are not voracious semen eaters like the youngsters here.
>>573905627forgot the pic
Angels are women with wings until delphinus walks into the room
>>573905404Elves are sluts though>>573905579Harpies have talons, feathers, and plumage. The fuck are you talking about you retard.
>>573905798yeah then they become biblically(titically) accurate
Cuteberia.
>>573905868and angels have halos yet people call them winged women. they have a halo too people can get creative with that. but no just lazy bastards giving them 2 wings and a donut.You can make the donut loop halos inside of halos make the halo a horrifying thing a warm light lots of things. You can make the wings as well multiple make them crooked make them less birdlike.Or do the fuckin actually based thing and do what delphinus does and make them biblically accurate.Then again monstergirls are just human women with stuff slapped on.also i am legally obliged to call lucifina a monster Michaela fuck look what she did to the moon.
Not cute. NOT CUTE. AIEEEEEE
>>573906130ok no fun allowed contrarian
>>573905798I wish the angel girl in venus blood had more scenes
>>573906159That tunic sure was good to buy!
>>573899092Who was it by the way? Was it the pink slime?
>>573905579we’re sending you to the re-education center so that our harpy experts can help educate you on the subtle, nuanced differences
YOU SLY LITTLE BABA
>>573905794It's amazing how this guy ended up the secound biggest coexistence simp only after Luka. It's hard to believe he didn't get bug pussy.
>>573906594She need to be skinned out of her fur!
coexistence is a problem because the human population will dwindle as women fail to prove their pussy is better than a monster's
>>573905579Harpies are level 5 beginner quests that you clear out and bring their feathers back to the quest giver for some money or gear before setting out and fighting more impressive monsters.
Monmusu Quest! It's our 15th anniversary, so here are the big girls (Revel, Uranus, Wormiel, Silkiel) (There are some Mon-Para characters mixed in, though)
>>573907013heard of the catfish effect
>>573907013Someone post that Promestein pic.Someone here needs a lesson on species procreation and gender balance.
>>573907013Ignore logical problems.
>>573907013
>>573907029
>>573907273
>>573898535>>573898794>>573899578>>573899947>>573900460>>573900936>>573901373>>573904709>>573906159>>573906594>achieved his dream of coexistence with rapists>is surprised when said rapists "coexist" with his penisWhy are Heroes like this?
>>573907418
>>573907552Tamamo ordered them to do it!
>>573907552Its his fetish
>>573907029>>573907273>>573907418>>573907605Cute!
>>573906697I mean his kingdom lived in pleasure due to the ants' slavery. He saw firsthand how monsters can be helpful.
>>573907013Thats why Human Population Preservation Measures are an overlooked yet crucial factor to long term co-existence and hapiness!Harpies support all humans and take steps to ensure everyone deserves a chance to be hapy! That’s why Harpies are the bestest and most selfless girls! They’ve evolved to become so closely related to humans that they can even have male sons if they want to, so unlike every other monster girl they didn’t even need to do this! Harpies did anyways because they’re just that great!And also that empathy and consideration was the reason they grew close enough to humans to evolve that ability in the first place, while ironically all the races that would need to practice this more don’t care enough about humans to realize the importance of it for their long term benefit.
Sure.
>>573907552
What did she mean by this bros?
>>573909882I forgot the fucking pic
R-responsibility for WHAT!?
>>573910030MGQ is an incredibly funny game.
NYO IT'S NYOT
>>573910335>choose the first option>ost changeoh shit.
>>573910189DO NOT REFUSE A JELLY
DON'T LEAVE ME LIKE THIS A MAMMO
I feel like the Sequel series probably has the best sex scenes out of these monster girl femdom games.
NO, I DON'T WANNA BE BREDNONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>573911520That's it, you're going to hip grinding hell. Stop trying to bait the sequelfag
>>573910592>2nd lineI completely forgot about that. I makes sense later if you think about it
My incredibly cute and incredibly perfect wife Mini!
And THAT'S IT! Just gotta read the sidestories!
The featherbrains are multiplying….
>>573911675That dude's still around?It's my honest opinion. For one, I feel it avoids the common mistake in these games of making the guy overly passive, so it's more of an interaction between the two, and so the girl's personality comes out more.
beautiful.
>>573911647Manwhore
Also bit late but the pre final form illias has an evaluation meeting. Turns out there was no good illias to begin with.
>>573913125Congrats anon, hopefully you enjoyed the journey. Do you have any favorite girls?
>>573913585>she's not the only goddess>she doesn't transcend good and evil>I don't really think (I'm a 4 INT retard)If she lied in all those parts, why should I trust anything in that line?
>>573913934He seemed to have warmed up to mamo and elma
>>573913405Alice is either pregnant, or left her babies with Michaela here.
>>573913125Glad you had fun anon. I hope you enjoy Paradox.
>>573909864So Luka is woke
>>573916137Yes?
>>573916331anon what the fuck no
>>573916137>believes that monsters are unfairly oppressed by humans>wants to make sure that humans and monsters can co-exist>turns his back on godYeah, he checks all the boxes.
>>573916416He wants a multi-cultural society for the whole world, and he is a-okay with women in power.
>>573916769>believes that monsters are unfairly oppressed by humansDoes he?>>573916954>He wants a multi-cultural society for the whole worldDoes he?
>>573905572We really do cry out for NTR here, don't we?
Luka is a woke icon, chudlias
>>573917138No, just someone trying to spread that mind virus really hard.
>>573917138>>573905572I'm not a fan of NTR stuff, but I do respect TrTr for biting the bullet and going, "yeah these hyper sexual creatures with a super casual mindset towards sex are also going to have a very loose idea of what counts as cheating."
>>573911647It's your reward for saving the world, Anon. Why aren't you happy, Anon?>>573910592>don't dieSilly fox, nobody has ever died from some harmless sex.
>>573910189There is something really funny about KC drawing a character that is trying to cuck another character he drew. TrTr should have given what everyone wanted, and that being the harem ending with Alice and her 4 goons. It could have been hammered home as a super non-canon one, but people would not have cared.
>>573913934I GREATLY enjoyed it. Maybe story was a bit basic or your cookie cutter jrpg story, but nonetheless very solid, reliable and functional(better that than subversion slop). I enjoyed the variety of monster girls and how some monster girls were more monster than girl(wouldn't fuck em though).I'm surprised at how much I enjoyed Luka and his growth despite how basic, simple and pure he's supposed to be and how obvious how he was going to improve, maybe it was how much of a natural rape victim he was that spiced things up.As for the girls I liked:AliceTamamoAlmaGranberiaErubetieAliceOrochiAll the spiritsQueen AlruneTsuchigumoLaplaceBlack Alice
>>573918580Thats not what “everyone” wanted, that’s what (you) wanted.
>>573918770Glad you had fun anon! It’s not super complicated, but I think it’s pretty good for what it is. Luka and Alice have a very nice relationship and I enjoyed their development, plus Ilias is an incredibly entertaining antagonist, too.>distinct lack of birbguess you’re not a harpy kind of guy?>orochiI respect that honestly.
>>573918990yeah i wanted an ending where we see the fox village full of foxes foxing me in the vn foxily mofu mofu kon kon fluffy tail
>>573918770now you can take a short break for a few days before jumping into paradox! It's a much more openended, customized experience of massive scale and magnitude. I'm enjoying it myselfadmittedly the writing isn't as good but that's just how it is when you trade VN for rpgm and an infinitely bigger cast
>>573918770i'm surprised no La croix i like her plague doctor design it's p cool. On top of her being a lich. Considering you said that there was some kino stuff with Chrome.
>>573919737Unfortunately zombies are icky
Tamamo once took on a score of men.
>>573919314Oh the harpies were cute, but I didn't have a particularly favourite member>>573919702My break probably won't take a few days, but regardless I'll take a short break>>573919737Oh La Croix was pretty hot, but I'm a teensy bit disgusted at her shit is all.
>>573918318I wonder what the most common relationship would be. Would the idea of an emotional relationship be a thing? Like "You're my first preference and I like you but if I'm really hungry and you're not around I'm sucking the first dick I see,"There's a lot of ways it could go down between what succubus village did and hardcore monogamy. Like bottles of semen just being treated as something you can buy. And offer to human guys to gross them out
>>573920638Yet planet vore is to me about as disgusting.. then again the entire world becomes alice so... Absolute Alice!Personally Lich's make good villains she's a villain being a bit reviled by them should be part of the appeal and enjoyment of them as a villain when considering the narrative.It's why griffith is a good villain piece of shit horrible piece of shit. but a darn good villain that needs to be cut open.
>bring potato>save eva
>>573920638That’s fair; I just quite like them I suppose. Either way I hope you enjoy Paradox anon! As a heads up “very hard” is probably the best difficulty for a balanced experience, it’s what I usually remember being recommended at least. Also Luka can talk to all the Monster Girls and it’s very fun to do that. Besides learning about them and some world building, it’s how you recruit normal encounters and some of the dialogue is pretty funny.
>>573920727In paradox a lot of the older succs were married and start fighting the newer succs because they “don’t want to share” (re; fuck you he’s mine). Since in the original pretty much all of them turned into succubi this doesn’t happen there which is why all the succs are in the free for all.
Can we talk about how optimal it would be to be raped by Neris?
>>573921316Are they really married?...
>>573920993To add:I respect your opinion and it's understandable undead be fuckin gross bacteria from the stomach begins eating the insides as stomach lining dies gross stuff. stinky stuff.
>>573921425Yes. Go back to the 500 years Tartarus and that’s what the village was generally like before they all stopped pretending. In the current day SV several of them are smashing their chibis together in the village as they fight because of this even.
>>573921425Yes.The Succubus Village in Heinrich's time was a safe haven for succubi and their families(husbands and daughter). It looked to have carried on like that in Paradox instead of going even more underground because of the Ilias Church.
>>573921079HARPY WIFE!
>>573921316Iirc a lot of monsters according to the qna dont like doing cuckoldry.It doesnt count if tamamo set it up as a test of faith luka chose you instead lmao.
>>573921152Mind elaborating on what you mean by "balanced"? Does very hard+ become too hard or too easy?
>>573921079>slimes killing penis
>>573921878Meia, but that is Meia.Even in MW, stealing a husband or semen slave is super taboo. It's why those early green imp monsters are absolutely hated.
>>573922030it just means the enemy isn't too strong or too weak. Difficulty is just how much the enemy is statpadding. You can change it on the fly whenever you want pretty much, so don't worry too much.
>>573921316>>573920727The Word of God says that pursuing another monster's husband is considered rude. But I feel for them it's mainly a matter of pride and status rather than a moral scruple.
>>573921079>minagi badTruthnuke
>>573922030Hot tips>you definitely should invest Luka and whichever heroine you chose, you'll brick yourself if you ignore one or the other later and Luka is pretty god damn powerful anyway so you have every reason to use him>just set the difficulty low and use the Ruler's Ruler if you the combat system burns you out, or if you get stuck, or if grinding is too time consuming at the time>Temptation scenes on low health enemies are not revisitable H-scenes that can be found in the gallery, and are different from the usual H-scene on defeat, check them out if you find a monster you wouldn't mind taking a quick L for>imp sex is recommended by 100% of imps
>>573913405>alice feeds
>>573921878>>573922272As I said here >>573922810 from memory, he says it's generally seen as rude, but that's specifically going after another monster's man. And not a monster who's with a guy getting semen from another guy.
>>573922030There’s very easy, easy, normal, hard, very hard, hell (returning from the original game), and then paradox. Generally >>573922298, you can always change the difficulty at any point in time if it ever want to. Difficulty affects several things, but mostly enemy stats and their status resistances and the effectiveness of certain skills. But if you want an in-depth explanation anyways:Combat encounters are at the most balanced on very hard: the bosses are reasonable challenges for their roles and the enemies will be capable of threatening you and not dying immediately, but don’t take so long to fight that they overstay their welcome or bog the pace down.Under that, it’s really easy to blow through everything in the game without trying, which can both get very boring and also potentially lead to problems later by causing you to be unprepared or unfamiliar with mechanics the game expects you to know or be acquainted with using by then.Hell Difficulty is harder and will require more effort and grinding to defeat enemies in it, but it plays like the standard “hard” difficulty from your average JRPG, so you can go into it knowing that.Paradox Difficulty was intentionally designed to be as unfair and punishing as possible. To the point the game warns you about choosing it in the first place, and trtr later had to modify how the difficulty works at no less than two specific parts of the game to prevent people from getting soft locked on it, one of which is the tutorial area. It’s the difficulty designed for someone who already beat the game before that’s already very familiar with the combat system and certain jobs are almost mandatory on it if you don’t feel like over-grinding to overcompensate.
>>573923780trvkeI was getting cocky with heavy spear + bow spamming with weakening dance at the start of part 3 a few days ago, and tried to swap to Paradox from VH and the armored berserker(s) fights just straight up oneshotted me because I didn't build defensive options. Learned my lesson and went back to VH kek
If very hard is most balanced why is isn't called normal
>>573924107people don't like feeling mediocre. Picking something harder than "normal" gives the illusion of achievement, yet committing to the hardest difficulty is too much
>>573923120You shouldn’t need to resort to the ruler on a first time playthrough for combat encounters, but it can speed up grinding if you get stuck, which can be helpful. I wouldn’t fight the bosses on it though, kinda feels like it defeats the point.Still, whatever’s most fun for you in the end. All that lowering the difficulty does is change the save file’s “highest difficulty cleared” tag to the lowest thing you set it to, so it just marks your save file as beating the game on very easy if you set the difficulty to that at any point. There’s nothing consequential that happens otherwise.
>>573924107I think trtr just underestimated how it would pan out on Part One’s launch.Could still start on normal and just turn it up if it’s too easy for you, but IIRC that’s what a lot of anons did and how very hard ended up a consensus here.
>>573924107Normal just means normal, the standard difficulty other modes use as reference. Probably trtr thought it was balanced well when he started making it but over time things went out of control.Look at Shrift for another similar example. The game itself recommends Safe mode for first time players, but Normal is how the dev envisioned the game originally.
I have given everyone in the pocket castle monster energy drinks
>>573913125Thought the same back when I cleared itNow I feel old
>>573921079>koron retarded>bring potato>illias problems>angel goes assThere was some gold in the last thread.
>>573924225I agree to this. Before losing my data I played through everything but the crossover in Paradox difficulty.And let me tell you the gruesome effort you have to put isn’t worth it. You legit have to use everything you have to win and even then at some points it came down to luck. I had to spend hours farming to get the specific tree and skills.And in generic fight it was mandatory to have something like a singer or dancer to open up with buffs. You basically had to mechanically handle everything all the same
>>573927559I remember starting Paradox difficulty, and then getting wiped out in the first random encounter because I got ambushed, slimed, and then boomeranged.Then I had that experience it again in the collab making me not want to play it again in another playthrough.
>>573922030Normal is made for people who don't play RPGsHell and Paradox, the two difficulties above Very Hard, are made for masochists which the latter being more extreme
>>573927559>>573927937NTA, I legitimately cannot enjoy this game on any difficulty other than Paradox, the ways you describe the experience is exactly how I like it. I just really enjoy how satisfying and engaging a lot of the battles feel on that difficulty, and the feeling of punching up and defeating enemies above your level through preparation and strategy feels great.I’m still recommending Very Hard for any first time players, however, because I know that’s not going to be fun for most people.I also never use Luka either but that’s also a me thing.
>>573928516I mean nothing wrong with enjoying some good old cbt. But since a lot of the game is grinding, Paradox bogs it down too much imo. Once I can't easily set up 1-2 turn kills for random encounter mooks or having to change around auto strategies every encounter of an area I'm expected to be in without sacrificing like, an exp boost song or something, that's when I draw the line
>>573928773For me it's the opposite, Paradox feels like it makes you look for optimality that instead of grinding I just find myself using strong characters like Uriela or Shirohebi instead of some fun meme build characters
>>573928773It never feels like that to me but I always set every game I play to the highest difficulty possible. I was also generally able to consistently defeat enemy encounters in one-to-three turns as well (with a team comprised mostly of girls who didn’t even have a damage bonus or elemental booster), generally just one or two by buffing and then attacking turn one and it usually only lasts longer if I’m talking to enemies.It’s mostly because it makes the boss battles feel more like proper Boss Fights where their mechanics and attacks aren’t just dangerous but the effects that they have also matter now, and the Boss Fights last long enough to be very fun and memorable battles, typically around the usual duration of an JRPG boss (which I’d put at 5~15 minutes on average). This is likely why I loved the third route so much because trtr really put in a lot of effort to make almost every boss in that stand out and have multiple unique mechanisms that shape the way the fight goes.…But, well, by that point evidently a lot of people started using time stop or crisis cheese to kill most of them and it’s kind of sad. I saw a good number of anons who also fought the calamities normally though which was nice. Maybe I just had the patience to push through them being hard without grinding a ton because I felt like that was supposed to be the point or something. Idk man. I had fun getting to help others beat them and I still feel like those fights are a highlight at least.
>>573929868I feel like that’s a good way to put it yeah, you just have to try and optimize your team to the best of your ability. It’s not so much about the recruits as it is what you do with them.Although obviously you’ll still have a less difficult time with certain girls compared to others.
>>573923120Reminder that Rami is still to this day the only character who has a scene tied to a gear.
>>573931084Wait really?
>>573931084>>573931214Paizuri Doll (Pine / Paianne) has one too. The same piece of gear, at that.But only those two.
>>573931214Yup, Risque Swimsuit.>>573931263Oh really? Good to know!
>>573931263Hild also has one, again, with the same piece of gear.Sonya has one that changes depending on what equipment you give her.
>>573932096I didn't know about Sonya and Hild, but in my defense they were drawn by Xelvy
What dnd class would luka be and why is it ranger
>>573932194Sonya's is actually pretty lewd because she's willing to get full on naked for a reach around blowjob but keeps her clothes on for a blowjob, well that and Sonya pushing her face so close to Luka while urging him to cum on her panties or a cup so she can wear them or drink it is peak lewd.
>>573935298Maybe some kind of ranger/warlock?
>>573935298He's just a boring Fighter.
>>573936656Fighters wouldn't commune with spirits for power. Thats firmly a druid/ranger thing
>>573937401That's just special Story skills.
>>573937401In the VN he probably maxed out the swordfighter and summoner job tree to the advanced level, and got the Daystar forbidden race class after awakening his angel powers. That is if we use the Paradox model.
>>573922030NTA but the best difficulty is whatever works for the amount of time you want stuff to takeThe Collab Event which triggers around the end of Part 2 is a lot of forced party scenarios with new characters, and lower difficulty will probably be more fun.Part 3 (post Great Decision, you'll understand) is quite a spike up.It's the journey, not the difficulty.
>>573937401He's a warcraft shaman
>>573938678Too bad the Collab is shit.
>>573938752The advice on difficulty didn't require your impotent seething.
>>573938678Isn't difficulty fixed in the collab now?
>>573939202Not unless they later changed something.
>>573938924Cool. Still shit no matter the difficulty.
What difficult do YOU personally recommend, anons? I'm motivated to restart my playthrough as I lost all my data and I'll rush to Part 2 at the easiest but I do intent to fight bosses properly so as to not break balances and that still feel done right.I amped up the difficulty without care in my first playthrough after I accidentally did a combo of bonuses that oneshotted via arrows the slug bosses early on.
>>573938924in all fairness, the collab wasn’t exactly well designed. Putting trtr’s difficulty changes aside, the plotline of it isn’t very good, most of the collab characters feel superfluous (enemy and antagonist), and there’s only a handful who are likable or memorable. The main antagonist chosen for it was terrible, her fight is comically easy compared to the fight before her, and the ending after the fight is a letdown, and would almost come across as pretentious for how bland the scenario was and the plot holes it had. The collab was also the point where the powercreep snowballed beyond control, in particular one addition both clashed with the rest of the game’s presentation of the same described entities in its own universe, and felt particularly grating and generic, and trtr later nerfed them through the floor for part three out of clear regret.Also adding sorceries to all the early game encounters balanced around them using lower damage skills had unintended consequences.There were good parts, like getting to travel to multiple new towns that aren’t on the overworld map (which also helps cement that yes there’s plenty of places you don’t go during the story that exist just like the rest of the game implied), the memorable characters were very good and have great interactions, the jobs unlocked by the collab are incredibly fun to use, and there’s some good fights in there at least.Really just take the SP/SHRIFT/Three Charms part of the collab and make that be the entire thing. considering the time loop, Vinum could have worked as the main antagonist for the main collab, and put more emphasis on the petty sadism and genuine evil beings over generic bimbo hedonist #2178.Lest and Novissa were fine too though, I guess.
>>573941308And the maps are terrible. And let's not talk about the second collab.>"Fuck you, you have to fail multiple time"
>>573941303For a casual playthrough VH or HellBut personally, Paradox Difficulty. Bonus points for not using Luka. I just like it when the game forces you to actually try or pay attention to how it works.
>>573941308It was a post about difficulty alone so:>Who asked?I didn't ask.And he can do it himself, which he's certainly quite a few days or more off doing, and make up his own mind.I could love it or hate it, wasn't part of my post on difficulty. So feel free to go to Kanon's Gallery.
>>573941303Why is link naked
>>573941575>LukaIt's a bit funny how Crisis can completely screw over the difficulty. The moment you use a character with it as it's intended the only thing it need is one hit, and suddenly Luka can destroy everything.
>>573941575Luka never struck me as someone gamebreaking powerful even after unlocking the spirits throguh Part 2. He was the strongest more because I spent most time changing his jobs if anything.>>573941769It's actually Zelda. That artist's Zelda has more sharper eyes
>>573941694Poor baby doesn't like being told off and has to cope with a didn't ask.
>>573941308The extra jobs and race change items being attached to the collab before you can get them in part 3 is the worst thing TrTr did. It not only means you have to play the collab in another playthrough if you really want the items, and the jobs/race change items are at the very end of Part 2, meaning you are not going to really appreciate them much because you will need to go through the class/race trees quickly because Part 3's difficulty skyrockets.
>>573941303Very Hard or Hell, or else, it's just too easy. Problem is that you'll probably need to grind a bit at the start.
>>573941964No its obviously link, look he's got the hylian sheild
>>573938752>>573939540>>573941498>>573941995"Don't sweat difficulty stuff, there's weird things like the forced parties in the collab which might be annoying for difficulty.">REEEE THE COLLAB IS SHIT>I HATE THE COLLAB>FUCK THE COLLAB>WHY ARE YOU SHILLING FOR THE COLLAB YOU BOOTLICKERWhile positions should traditionally be judged on their own merits, sometimes when the messenger is an unhinged retard, it gives off the impression that maybe there's just a few loud unhinged schizos and the content in bad is fine.
>>573942225I thought it was legend of zelda, so the name of the dude was zelda.
>>573941498I think the maps were great, that’s why I praised them.The Chateau in particular was an awesome dungeon, honestly, and I still think it was a great location. also using it and a misplaced crystal in an older version of part three to no-clip to singularity world and functionally bring it back was nice. The music for it was fantastic too, unironically the only problem with that dungeon that I remember is JUST that the villain is Est, who sucks. But the dungeon did fit her thematically, at least. I don’t think it would’ve suited most of the other villains. Also the bonus towns were nice.I had no issues with the Time Loop either and comparing Paradox Luka to the original one makes it make more sense as well.>>573941694Eh. That’s fine. Just like to talk about this game I guess.>>573941995I am not “telling off” anyone, I’m just having a conversation. And I would appreciate it if you didn’t act like I’m trying to cudgel some guy you’re angry at.
>>573942278Coming from the guy who immediatly jump to insults and strawmen, your post is kind of shit
>>573942278Ah I didn’t see that this was what started it, sorry, should’ve scrolled up before saying something. Happens to everyone.Yeah the collab has nothing to do with the difficulty discussion and trtr edited the modifiers for it to make the collab’s beginning areas much easier due to the circumstances on them, so that problem was one he fixed at least.
>REEEE THE COLLAB IS SHIT>I HATE THE COLLAB>FUCK THE COLLAB>WHY ARE YOU SHILLING FOR THE COLLAB YOU BOOTLICKER
>>573942696https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUkgRAy_Vo
>>573941838Luka honestly wasn’t overpowered in Parts 1 and 2 and there were far superior options to him in terms of crisis. I just think it’s more fun to have four monster girls. Him turning into a cheese factory just adds an extra bit of challenge if you go through with not using him.
>>573942897>The joke>>>>Your head>>573943000Hey I agree, I'm just saying that if you level Luka, and that Luka take a hit and survive while you use him as intended, Heroism skills, things can get out of control really fast.Which applies to everyone with a Crisis Trait.
>>573943000He was overpowered in part 2 where he's already a high level in the angel race, and some others. part 1 was the only part where he feels anywhere near as weak as he was in most of the vn.
>>573942525The maps were far too big imho, It was just not just boring but unpleasant. You were constantly walking from A to B, so you'll to deal with encounters constantly. Especially if you want to get everything.The castle was the real problem, because it was really, really big, and you will get easily lost.Zantetsuken, the things I did for you...>I had no issues with the Time LoopI don't get it. The Time Loop may as well piss on your face, even if you piece things together relatively fast, you are required to die multiple times. It's insulting, reptitive, and make everything a waste of time.
>>573943440>Alice: Luka, your swordmanship is trash>*Luka who actually has levels in Warrior*It's funny.
>>573943640nta but that is the point of the time loop event, yes. Some people like the "trial and error" type games, and Succubus Prison happened to be exactly that. It was quite fun for me too and the only part I enjoyed about the collab stuff.
>>573943991That's... not trial and error, Anon.
>>573943891Yes, because of Sonya.Paradox Luka was stronger than VN Luka in the beginning, but VN Luka just outpaced Paradox Luka until the chaos route because he hogged all the experience points, and utilized the hell out of the spirits, who didn't have to do multi-duty work with other people.
>>573944424I would like to say, in spite of Sonya, just to be an ass to her.
>>573943171>i was just pretending to be a retarded obsessed schizo!Clever.>>573943640>the Time LoopIs emulating the trial & error gameplay of what it's based on, in no small part as an engine to add a bunch of skeb commissioned h-scenes as well.
>>573944660>Happiness>>>>(You)Loosen up Anon, try to laugh, it's healthy.
>>573944424The power of friendship weakened Paradox Luka when he was still just a "regular" mortal.Even if you do the no Pocket Castle challenge, he still gets help from tiny Alice and Ilias.
>>573943640I felt the maps were a reasonable size and you can always just turn up your movement and put on the “no encounter” ring that you’d have by that point.And I don’t think the time loop does. The explanations as to what goes on make logical sense, particularly for how strong Luka was intended to be at that point and how he lacks the sophisticated training the VN Luka does due to winning canonically with the power of friendship instead. And talking to the girls around the castle was fun too. The pocket castle segments were the single best thing in the entire collab I’d go as far to say. I just skipped all the scenes anyway. The puzzle and/or trial-and-error part wasn’t so bad either.Also it unlocks shield captain but I feel like you shouldn’t need to beat the whole thing for that one job given how pivotal it becomes to playing part three without dying to everything on higher difficulties.
>>573945036NTA but that’s kind of rich coming from someone who interrupted a discussion over difficulty segments to switch the topic to how much he hates something unrelated.
>>573943000Luka with Aura Star is one of the most overpowered cheese units but you can say that's more about Weakening Dance girls
>>573945357There's a joke to be made about Aura Farming.
>>573945079>I felt the maps were a reasonable size and you can always just turn up your movement and put on the “no encounter” ring that you’d have by that point.Bold of you to assume I didn't do that.Oh the discussions with the characters in the Pocket Castle were fun, it was the best, but the fact that you were forced to lose made it all taste like ash.
nahit was fun actually :3
>>573945705Do you feel the same way about superboss segments where defeating the enemy that you weren’t supposed to defeat gives you the “wow, that’s impressive, good job” line and then proceeding to one shot the whole party in the cutscene anyway?I never minded either of those. I just think it’s kind of silly to get so upset about something like that. It’s one of the most common JRPG cliches of all time and it doesn’t even matter at all in the time loop because Luka wins anyways and makes any outcome where he lost not happen in the first place.
>>573946531If it happen one or twice, it's fine. All the time, and it's boring and unfun.
>>573946657It’s just a short trial and error segment with infinite tries that can be beaten in a couple hours or less. I don’t get why you feel so upset at the mere concept of the dying to restart the time loop unless you take the idea like some kind of personal insult for disrupting a power fantasy or something.Like if it was just that you found it boring or unfun then you wouldn’t claim it’s ‘pissing in your face’ or something.
Sometimes I wonder if people were actually expecting Luka to brutally murder the Succ Prison trio in an extended torture scene then go "take that murderwhores!"It's a crossover made to celebrate the characters, in a game that lets you recruit and sometimes even side with heinous women and is treated as a joke.
>>Bold of you to assume I didn't do that.that just sounds like you being impatient then i guess, but fair enough
>>573947082Losing can be funny. Forced loss isn't fun at all. I know it's the whole point of SP, losing, but sheesh, what a tone shift.>>573947215After the fourth time getting lost, I was indeed, impatient.
It's a bit disappointing how Black Alice has such tiny breasts.
>>573947436Forced Loss is the boss cutscene making you lose anyway. The time loop is the equivalent of a Groundhog Day loop except all the suicide attempts or bungled klutz deaths are replaced with sex scenes. A number of which don’t even kill him, he just blacks up and wakes up again, so there’s only two mandatory times where he actually dies to reset it.If you replaced “losing” or sex scenes with just a brief smash to black and then the time loop resetting once the day ended and nothing happened other than the infinite retries, would that still bother you because the time loop concept itself exists in the first, or is solely just that the segment being used by trtr to showcase the promised “select skeb commissions will be put in the game” event from that time bother you for some reason.
>>573948745Flat is justice
>>573949246She isn't flat though, she is just tiny bity.
>>573947106Feels like he's probably just seething about Shiki but trying to justify it with secondary things he's stumbling over.It was fun to have a bit of a Daily Life bit watching the characters do things.
>>573948880That's an interesting take honestly. I haven't seen things like that.
>>573947106TrTr was juggling the character personalities, and gameplay. No one on Luka's crew would have shown the SP trio any mercy. Ilias, Alice, Sonya, the collab heroes, and the GN Queen especially, would have called for their heads on a spike for what they did. But as you said, this was supposed to be a collab, and not only are people wanting to add the SP girls to their roster, the SP dev would not have accepted it if his characters got brutally killed.So, TrTr compromised, and added the whole, "universe would implode" excuse to keep them alive.
>>573948745Just because she doesn't have gigantic sagbags doesn't mean she's small...
>>573947106They don’t even get treated like some of the evil characters in MGQ do, they’re unambiguously just shunted into pocket castle jail with the rest of the collab antagonists so they can’t kill anyone else by a party that hates them. It’s not like they want you to feel sorry for them. The two groups even threaten to kill each other if they get the chance.It’s the most reasonable outcome from them being included honestly, everyone who dislikes them gets them put in time out indefinitely and their fans can put them in the party anyway.>>573950864Thank you, I’m glad you understand.>>573951135Alice and Ilias do actually say they want to kill them, to their credit. But ultimately it’s just a compromise yeah.
>>573951494If you want to get even more cynical about it.The SP trio didn't do anything wrong, because they just did what the MW plan, and kind of what the AW plan wanted. Culling the population of the Singularity World.Now, the issue of course if sending them back.
>>573952517The plan they were working for was going to prevent souls from going to either MW or AW. This is why the respective trios intercept to attack them at one point, besides trying to help you stop Est. There’s also the important distinction (which some forget) that the Lilith Trio are doing it to save people and genuinely aren’t sadistic murderers this is why echidna hits them so hard, lilith in particular, while the SP Trio are doing it entirely because they really are sadistic murderers, and have murdered a ton of people prior to this (and they’d do it again obviously) and they also want to kill you specifically which would derail the MW plan.
They literally eat people’s souls, I don’t think souls travel to MW if they get eaten.
>>573913585That's part of her Keikaku btw, Paradox explains this but it's not for double digit IQ I'm afraid.
>>573954051I think the only time we see the actual soul being destroyed in SP, is by Shiki Prime. I wish she showed up in Paradox.
>>573947106No i was epecting him to lock them in a cage and have their liver pecked out every morning by birds.
>>573955667That's because she gets around the statue, if it weren't for the time loop every shiki would destroy your soul.
>>573948745>has an attack called young girl's modest breasts>when she goes into her true form her boobs get bigger.Black alice chooses to be cute shes a shapeshifter if you dont like her boob size then she'll eat you.
>>573955870well, you get the first half of that technically, but maybe you could bribe some of the harpies to create the full prometheus experience
>>573955667shiki prime will get raped by Luka's daughter if she tries to unexist him.
>>573956415Wait!Let my wife kick her butt first, she’s probably a calamity tier opponent and it could be a fun fight after all this timeWe could go easy on her too!
>>573956415She will learn to accept coexistence with a sword to the face.
Why did TrTr put marriage into paradox? Now I don't know who legit wants Luka like that and whose just acting out TrTr's ship bait fanservice
>>573957298trtr added marriage so the player could marry Gabriela
>>573957298what japanese game dont got service for the fans?
>>573957298he was asked too.The only reason it took longer is because he decided to give every single character a “unique gift” instead of keeping it cosmetic, which both forces him to keep coming up with new gifts if he wants to increase the list and also removing the point by causing people to just choose who gives the strongest gift and not who they actually like in the first place.It’s almost like a metaphor for part three’s treatment of the game’s “use who you like” selling point as a whole.
Monsters just say what they want you to hear because it makes it easier for them to prey on you. This is their nature.
>>573957298>>573957503Like Luka said: Ethically, it's over.
It's a special kind of disappointing to find out you actually can marry the girls in Paradox part 3 but not a single one of the girls you would've picked are available.Will additional ones be picked from a poll or will trtr add what he thinks people will want?
>>573958284He knows Hakunen would win so he'll add whoever he wants
>>573957503if you restart the game from base ng+ and go through the entire game again you can get another gift iirc.
90% of the issues in this setting are caused by a lack of a good father figure.
>>573958136it really is especially since it has no impact on Lucifina's bridal tournament scene, the only girls who even want Luka in that way as far as the story of paradox goes is Alice, Sonya and Hild and going into it triggers autism debates, one anon went as far as to say they represent the three faces of Eve and the crashout was just absurd with how deriously people took it back then.
>>573960275Neris is a terrible daughter, so i guess Luka is a terrible father.
>>573960336>one anon went as far as to say they represent the three faces of EveAutism. The most beautiful gift God had given to Mankind.
>>573960336Shipping is serious business.It would have been even more explosive back in the VN, if that Luka also had a wedding ring option.
>>573960371She was mostly raised by the heavenly knights. So more of an absent father.
>>573960336chaos also wanted to participate hillariously enough..
You must understand luka would want to marry my specific scrimblo and not the plot relevant characters
>>573960908Damn right!
>>573960371Neris has the most gentle scene in the game and people say she's terrible man people must think getting their dick literally eaten must be good.Also the luka-daughter beelzebub is banned from shoving eggs in your assLuka having babies just makes them better people.Luka+Monstergirl=better monstergirl children.Simple math.
>>573960908I would have married him to the Roper since it would be more of a punishment, than a happy occasion for Luka.
>>573961013So, Luka + Daughter = Good Sex. Does it mean Luka + Daughter = Good childrens?!?!
>>573961013therefore i must go on a quest throughout the multiverse to fuck all of Luka's daughters.
>>573961170I dont know but the sex is good yes.But neris really wants to find out if having a daughter squared with luka will improve the bloodline further by adding more luka.
>>573961207No Anon, that would break the bro code. You should find a Fem Luka and fuck her instead!
>>573961356and then fuck the daughter i make with fem Luka?
>>573961356Doppels are science abominations.The VN version especially.
>>573960371>>573960864What the hell were they thinking, giving a daughter to Granberia, I haven't a clue. She's a dumbass, not evil.
>>573961427This wouldn't break the bro code. So this is in fact... acceptable!>>573961453No Doppels, a genuine Fem Luka.
>>573961453You are scared that male doppel prolly has a bigger dick than yours.I personally dont fucking care anymore my psyche is already broken.
>>573961463Because giving erubetie a loli or shota would result in them suspiciously not growing up for no reason in particular clearly also eru is mentally ill.And alma would make them whores.Tamamo has too much work cut out for her so she cant have time for 2 eldritch monstrocity kids.Granberia just goes out in the woods and does shit piccolo style to a degree.
>>573961546how does it break the bro code.. if i fuck luka's daughter?
>>573961547Luka gets lewd, does not do the lewding.A crime against humanity those Doppels.
>>573961741>Luka isn't your broAnon, I...
>>573961741Luka NTRs multiple of his "bros".Show no mercy to the bro betrayer.
>>573961635Exactly, they should have both been given to Fluffy, since it's her job to raise Monster Lord's kids.My boy Nero deserve the throne so much more than his sister.
>>573961904He has the Remina throne. He has royal obligations only a man can do.
But which girl has the best-tasting asshole?
>>573961635>>573961741Both of them were mostly raised by 2 if the knights, but I forgot who by whom.I think Nero was mostly raised by Tamamo and Grandberia, while Neris was mostly raised by Erubetie and Alma but like I said I don't remember exactly.
>>573956415>shiki prime will get raped by Luka's daughter if she tries to unexist him.Shikibus Prime has metaverse level awareness and directly threatens the player of Succubus Prison.Not Taro, the human player.She is possibly a manifestation of entropy itself, a law of existence that Luka and Chaos need to sidestep and work around.
>>573962356Nero was raised by Tamamo, while Neris was raised by Granberia.
>>573962195Tamamo, next question
Other characters break the fourth wall and I still punch them until they stop moving anyways. Once inside you can’t escape the JRPG mechanics Prime! It’s not your house anymore!
>>573962419She was sealed away by Vinum so she can't be too difficult to beat, right?
>>573962419The 8th universe anon.We are MGQ.
>>573962419we have no real evidence of that, it’s deliberately ambiguous and she’s functionally just the ooky spooky creepypasta character. they already punch down laws of existence anyways, so she just sounds like a less hot dark phoenix.
>>573961547>>573961754>>573961453>>573961546I love my wife, Doppel,. No matter what others think of her or what form she takes. It hurts not to have her every time I post about her
>>573962773>She was sealed away by VinumWho said Vinum sealed her away?Maybe she sealed herself away because she doesn't want her power to starve and destroy everything?>>573962849It is not being presented ultra seriously, but it is also fair to say she is a vague and potentially stupidly high tier character.
>>573961546fortunately, I will be fucking Lona so I cannot break the Bro Code
>>573962849>ooky spookySo, she is the same type of character as every shikis.
>>573963105I like this mp4, is it over for me?
>>573963228anticollabschizo is seething again
>>573963451You're getting sent to the botanical garden, It's never been this clover
>>573963550What do you mean?
>>573963228Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge Shiki fan, but from what I've seen, she leans way more on the Eldritch horror theme than the others.
>>573963556>It's never been this cloverI kanon believe you've done this.
>>573963150i know lolto be fair someone earlier described her as being in the high end calamity pool, all of which are cosmic inter-dimensional beings who have destroyed countless worlds, and even if you still get to employ the time honored “hit it till it dies” strategy because you’re stronger+ with friendship it’s still a pretty high end honor. Succubi have no calamity equivalent, as the Vampires got their own thing (which is kinda ugly but SDS is some demon thing I guess), so Prime would be reasonable to view as the Succubus Calamity I believe.
>>573963228im poking fun at old cheesy stereotypes like EVERYTHING IS RED AND BLACK or SUDDENLY THE GAME STARTS TALKING TO ME!1!, oh no there’s blood all over the place, hyperrealistic eyes! That kind of thing.Don’t suck the fun out of it.
>>573963752wasn't the succubus calamity in granberries magical girl quest?
>>573963932she was not a calamity, she was just trying to become as strong as one. She wasnt really comparable to them, but if she had won she could’ve become one iirc.
>>573963752>Succubus CalamityWe will need to farm more to max out a succubus race...
>>573963150How good are those eggs
>>573961802I need the subsection where it states such but clearly someone has to fuck these daughters Luka's bloodline must continue!!The girls will outlive me anyways...
>>573962419Chaos is everything and nothing.she loses good day sir.
I could take her
>>573965504In a battlefuck, right?
Plot Twist:Shikibus Prime is just Adult Chaos
>>573965686That's exactly what I thought of every time that eye flashed on the screen
>>573965686Oh, ew.
>>573965686Grows up to be a bad girl because her father is a deadbeat, and she was raised by a fightfag nanny. Oh wait, that already happened.
>>573963451No, that's just normal anon, I once stared at the video for hours without even realizing it
>>573965686I would like to remind you that we still have our new friend about to play paradox this one’s kind of a big spoilerMaybe his few day break means break from the thread though idk I just hope he can go into it reasonably blind still
>>573966269It's only a big spoiler if he unspoilers the spoiler, which has been spoilered.
>>573962419>outerversali can draw her get beaten and Anal circumference by a 8 year old
>>573963105My wives
>>573968402Do it.
where's the black alice marriage option
>>573965881Neris is a good daughter who loves her father very much.
>>573968591trtr said it's being added after the Heinrich marriage option
>Marrying Black Alice: Bad>Marrying Heinrich: Good>Marrying Marcellus: Better
>Marrying Ruka: Bestesdist
Fuck you Tamamo, you're not my real mom
>>573969641t.maletsune
>>573970072What a cute girl!
>>573966269Friend here, it’s all good really. I personally think it’s my responsibility to avoid spoilers. You guys can do whatever.
>>573972160I like to hope you're mostly just chilling on the (You)s since those are ideally careful.
>>573968591Unfortunately Luka is Alicetromeria x Heinrich shipper.
>>573972773Anon fucking spoiler that. Jesus, we just had a talk!
>>573972773>>573973101The discussion indeed ain't active enough that we can't chill on it a bit and let a dude at least get some days into the game.
Luka killed Dumbledore
>>573973385Friend is literally two posts above. How could Anon miss that? Have some manners, motherfucker.
Counterpoint: if the guy didn't want to be spoiled them he could have played the game 10 years ago.
Spoiler: The Harpies take over the world and Harpy Girl becomes Queen of the Universe! Yakitori is outlawed!
>>573973921the stuff being posted is from part three and that came out less than two years ago
>>573973994I do not understand. Yakitori is made with chicken, why would harpies ever be mad about it? It's not like cooked harpies would be good.Right?
>>573921079>Hiruko maybe
>>573973957Stupid succubus
Imagine Hiruko hitting you with the I'm so lonely speech
>>573973921"Spoiling" is a dumb concept anyway. It's all about the execution in the moment. If being simply told what happens ruins that somehow then it wasn't worth experiencing raw to begin with.
>>573974832It shifts the appeal's form. Things like surprise and speculation are replaced by anticipation, and depending on what the story is trying to do, that can harm the experience.
>>573974190The harpies as a whole aren’t mad about other people eating birds or eggs, even if they find it distressing in the way a lot of humans think eating a monkey is messed up and uncomfortable, and get upset if you show it to them (if they don’t take it as you trying to insult them).I was about to talk about the specific Harpy Girl who does hate it (who shall remain anonymous) but then I remembered that the last time I did some heartless anon saw the poor bird’s deep seated phobia and started posting a ton of professional bird killing/cooking videos like they were trying to trigger a panic attack in my wife.Don’t bully her, please. Even when she’s super strong now and has quintuple immortality at this point, she still keeps trying to strangle Hiruko to death every time she sees her half out of rage and half out of fight-or-flight, she hates her in a deep personal level. And despite acknowledging that Hiruko has some pitiable sides, I also want her dead entirely as a matter of principle and also out of support for my wife.Really, can you blame her? That one room in meat land was just pointlessly cruel. I get she has a condition but Hiruko was kind of an asshole. She didn’t even apologize for it either. I’m pretty sure part of why she’s so angry is because she tried to imply it was either her or a family member’s counterpart in MW and like you kind of get what you fucking deserve at that point man.…..the Harpy Girl is anonymous of course, I don’t actually know her. That’s just a hypothetical situation.I’m not biased.
>>573918770That's great to hear anon, hopefully you'll enjoy Paradox just as much if not more. All amazing girls as well, you must really love Alice to list her twice (not that there's anything wrong with that). Nice to see UN_DO girls get some appreciation, Queen Alraune and Tsuchigumo are both beautiful and have wonderful ginormous boobies.
>>573976076Oh the double alice was typo, but she definitely had a pretty good dynamic with luka
>>573972773Oh that's interesting. I'm interested see how this is relevant to the story. I think I'll start now actually.
>>573975814But.Chicken is good.
>>573976150Oh yeah, another monster I liked was page 65537
>>573975348some people can play games just cuz of the spoilers. Live a live as an example is a game i played cuz of spoilers.
>>573978778I for one wouldn't have made it to the great decision if I hadn't known about part 3. Though it was probably Micaela and Lucifina-chan that did most of the work pushing me through the final parts of part 2.
Canonically speaking how strong is the TamaBall?
>>573980326Biblically speaking Tamaball should be strong enough to beat a principality, an archangel at least.
>>573980326It's terminal and incurable.
Cute Granberry
Musca domestica
>>573974832>>573975348>>573978778Newanon here, I actually finally started MGQ because I got spoiled on Ilias' final boss theme myself.
>>573985284paradox themes are honestly really hype too. I think it wouldn't be spoiler if you were to watch part 1 PVpart 2 and 3 might be a little spoilery
>>573986274All of paradox's songs are free use aren't they? porn games rarely make their own ost's, even more so for jap devs.
>>573986805yes, but it's still banger nontheless and the series is where I heard it first so it counts
>>573986805A few in Paradox are custom made I think?
Which monster girl is the one that would say>*hacker voice* i'm in
Slime?
>>573989086Any of the ones with a futa penis.
Bunny Slime
Guys I was convinced to move in with this girl I met but something about her house feels... Odd.
>>573995339You can’t judge a house by it exterior, I’m sure everything will be okay for you anon
>>573995339Jello house
>>573899092Who was it btw? Didnd't get an asnwer.
>>573996926Didn't get an answer.*how did I fuck the sentence up that badly?
I love my mom so much
>>573997039Probably Bess.She pissed off the worst 4HK you can, and she she killed people on screen.Her not showing up at the end while many of the other traitor monsters did probably does not bode well for her.But, TrTr did answer what happened with Lily, so maybe someone knows if he did for this character as well?
>>573999057So it was the pink slime. Gotcha.
>>573999057>so maybe someone knows if he did for this character as well?It was said that she wasn't killed in the end, and was instead forced to help with the cleanup of Undine's spring
>be high-level adventurer with lots of hp>buy low-level gear to pretend to be a newbie>go near the starting village>get assaulted by weak monster girls>mock their sex skills when they can't make you cum>make the weak monster girls cryHeh. Livin' the dream.
>>573995339bouncy castle
Ok. Let's go.
Already a discrepancy huh?
Is there no backlog in paradox? Kinda sucks.
>>574006110Tell me about it. I had huge issues screenshotting it
I just got to the botanical gardenWhat the fuck
>>574006110>>574006446One of the Part 2 patches broke the backlog. It actually used to exist, pressing D or whatever, but now it just pops open blank.
>>574008032Coexistence and a true friend
>>574008374And no one's ever fixed this?
>>574008829I don't know if it's on JP end or translation end
>>574008467Yeah no, I've seen enough, I hoped the whole human cattle stuff in the succubus village was an outlier but I now see how it is, burn this whole realm to the ground, public execution for the six ancestors and tie the dark goddess to a rocket with destination to the sunCan't believe the succubus sisters almost managed to convince me to betray Illias, I'm now her most devout soldier
Well this is new.
>>574005984Yep, time for a familiar then consistently less familiar experience.
>>574008925I won't spoil anything but continue
>>573995339.please return......forever
Already small now?
>>574009173I will. I gotta say though that I love how at first Zion and Gnosis appear to be serious and intimidating but the moment they join your party it's quickly revealed that they are a pair of massive dorks
Well look who it is.
Some things never change.
>>574008032Me exactly 4 days agoI haven't gone to the other route yet but there's literally no way they can top that
Seems I'll have to choose between ilias and alice. Is there any difference between them? I imagine it'll decide the route in part 3.
>>574010031Gnosis is still fucking scary yobut Zion has always been a funny dorktard
>>574011460Yeah theres some differnces, not worth replaying all of part 1, 2 and the beginning of 3 over it but you can choose a different route in part 3. Pick your favorite
>>574011579Alright. Old reliable it is then. I'll go for Alice and the darkness route. Ilias will wait her turn.
>>574011460Alice got a huge downgrade in terms of character. This whole game is actually the Ilias redemption game.Also you'll get to pick the route at the beginning of part 3 so you aren't "locked" into the one you chose
>>574011460Pick Illias
>>574011702I agree with the other anon that alice is worse in paradox but i ended up picking her too, because i like alice more than illias. And its not even really close
>>574011460Ilias. You already adventured with Alice.Also Alice's character in the VN worked because of the problems of coexistence, her mother's ideals and death and so on. In Paradox, some things changed and therefore it doesn't work as well.Good luck.Also I think you should take Luka off the Apprentice Hero and some other class ASAP. You get them maxed through the story. I don't remember which they are.
What's the difference between 3.04 and 3.06? I just got to part 3 playing the prepatched.
>>574011460Each has unique recruits in Parts 1+2, and relatively minor differences in those parts.At the start of Part 3, you get another choice which is a whole full completely different split, which also exchanges out route specific recruits. The game also allows New Game+ to reset to the start of Part 3.It's generally not super worth replaying Parts 1+2 and with that in mind it's an easy Ilias recommendation.
>>574011913>>574012024>>574012201>All these Ilias recommendationsWell... shit.
>The treasure chest was a Pandora
>>574012378It's fine to go with your heart.
>>574011460The story follows the same plotline but you start getting seperate recruits around mid to late part 2, part 3 is a route split but after completing one you can rewind to the route split and play with the other character there. Pick whoever you like more.
>>574012378You don't "need" to but Ilias also gets much better exclusive companions for Parts 1+2, while Alice only gets 1
>>574012378She's fun.
>>574012378>Ilias benefitsGives you that "this is Paradox instead of the VN" vibesPretty cool recruitsYour heroine didn't get the short end of the stick>Alice benefitsyou like her (we all do after the VN, but it isn't the same this time around)I think TrTr intended for people to pick Ilias as a NG+ option after playing with Alice, but I think it's fine to immediately go Ilias if you played the VN
>>574012918Does NG+ let you restart from all the way at the beginning of game or something? Or only at the route split of part 3?
>>574012378>>574012772Oh and my context of "better" is purely sidequests and such that you get exclusive to them.Pic unrelated.
>>574011024Its just a fancy dating play, if a guy challenges a harpy to a fight it’s because he’s asking her out clearlyReina just tells him to go over to the village himself if he wants to see one so badly lmao
>>574013028Both, the latter is mainly for convenience.
>>574012918"You don't turn your back on family. Even when they do"-Luka Toretto
>>574013028Either.Steamrolling Parts 1+2 isn't the most horrible experience, especially with a No Encounters accessory, but the amount of "new" content you'd get from it is quite limited.Aside from some novelties like bringing major characters to their own boss fights.
>>574013028NG+ lets you either start at the "decision" or at the start of the game. If you start at the decision you can pick your heroine and assume that you've been with them until that point. So far I've been able to see the NG+ prompt at the decision, and I'm sure I'll get to see it again after finishing part 3, since I'm in the middle of itBut I wouldn't redo part 1 and 2 personallyIt's a pretty fucking long game. Part 1 and 2 took me like 60 hours and I'm even playing with various mods that streamline the gameplay
>>574011460Ilias is generally the route for people who played the original game; the paradox Alice is still fine, but her route sticks closer to the VN until (the part it becomes obvious that it deviates from the VN).For what it’s worth Luka is written to clearly still prefer Alice, at least in terms of romance, and he becomes increasingly snide to Ilias over his route (to her dismay and my amusement because his reactions get really really funny) but I won’t deny Ilias herself is one of the funniest parts of the game, especially early on.
Personally i just can't stand luka simping for illias
Since he likes screenshots, should newfriend use THAT mod so he wouldn't miss lines
>>574013665That's up to him, though probably he'll want it. I'm the only anon in this general who doesn't like using it.
>>574013608what, like choosing her? He never really simps for either of them, but definitely not her. I get it if you hate Ditch River Lady that much though. She did a lot.
This guy knows something. Does he know about VN Luka?
Any recommendations?
>>574013608>>574013754There's a LOT more characters, and this isn't a kind of "choose your true destined romance" VN, so I would not fret something silly like "luka simping for ilias".
>>574013984Man everything about him in design, personality and implementation was just genius.
>>574014203If you're swapping off apprentice hero from the get go warrior is always a safe bet, you'll want a thief too but that's what party members are for
>>574014465The slime I recruited is a thief. I suppose that will do for now.
>>574013984nah he's just an unsuspicious fellow
>>574013984What a nonsuspicious looking fellow.>>574014203Luka gets a few of the tier 1s for free a bit into Part 1, if you want to save your exp.Elsewise>Hunter series jobs gives Recruit Chance bonus>Thief series jobs gives chest unlocks>I forget if Gadabout unlocks Speech job skill which can also contribute to Recruit ChancesFor the least frustration, I think Thief line on Luka.Recruitment can always occur without bonuses, unlocking chests cannot.Of course, you have many characters available, but Luka tends to be the always-there no matter what you're doing.
>>574014203very very small spoiler but you get maxed warrior and apprentice hero for free later. But it shouldn't be that big of a deal.
>>574014738By maxed warrior, do I have to have it equipped, or can I just advance to whatever warrior's next stage is even if I'm in another class?
>>574014829even if you never touched A.Hero and Warrior it'll still go to 10
>>574014203You'll want to avoid the apprentice hero and warrior jobs for Luka since they get maxed out in an event to unlock the hero job just around the time for you to max them out if you actually leveled them. With that in mind>GuardSomething you can unlock right away, can use swords>Martial artistCan lead to a strong intermediate job when warrior is maxed>MageCan lead to spellsword
>>574012772She gets 2 Morrigan with her part 3 buffs might as well be the strongest character for a while
Ok. I made Luka a thief for chest chances. Sonya will remain as a priest, Alice will stay as a Yoma/noble, might change her to a magician later, Slime will be a warrior since she's only good as a tank for physical attacks anyway.
>>574013984No thats just some chuuni highschooler, pay him no mind.
>>574013608This but for Alice
>>574012772The character alice gets is the best mage in the game though. Pent fe7 levels of busted
>>574016727you mostly want a thief just so you can unlock rare chests since only they get the passive for it. Personally I would have picked guard or MA. Thief on Luka doesn't do much when you can just get a throwaway. You'll likely swap out your roster frequently until you find someone you'd like to keep on your team though. For me, the slime girl is still here doing really funny stuff in endgame
>>574017113by guard do you mean warrior? I don't see a Guard job.
>>574017213you'll unlock guard if you go back to the swamp where you saved the slime girl and then run a small sidequest
>>574017365What is this sidequest? i'm back at the swamp but I don't see anything.
>>574018430Oh wait it's later down the line.
Wha- you can't just take my ICONIC FUCKING WEAPON you ass!
>>574011024If only we could all be that lucky. I hope every anon in this thread is blessed with a harpy wife.
>>574018838I want my Angel wife, Doppel,.
monster brain:if(penis)then(rape=true)
>>574020696Do they rape futa monstergirls?
>>574020696>t.
>>574022857Anything that has a penis WILL be raped.
I love angels so much broseven some of the slightly scary ones, but not the really scary ones
>>574013984I remember back when the demo came out and I started thinking who he could be, the answer was instantly obvious after thinking a bit. The only issue with them is how the rewrites made them less than what they could be.
>>574026062they weren’t rewritten
>>574026268I get the feeling that they were meant to do more than what they end up doing, which is nothing. At least having them earlier for the calamities could have been fun if only for their comments. Would be better than just Koron stealing all your kills.
>>574026436They do more than nothing and save your life multiple times. Their ultimate end point was also pretty evident early on, the final Tartarus. You also could get them earlier in the final route if you beat the Gazer guarding said area anyways, but in the intended order they’re fine. They were meant to be supporting characters helping with the more dangerous part and that’s what happens.>KoronKilling angolmois like she was a peasant was based. The only other time she ‘kills steals’ is the Star Eater and that’s because mommy called her and dangled the promise of praise and a strong enemy like jingling keys.
Well hello there.
White Rabbit is grea. trtr delivered on her pretty well.
>Asking about Granberia causes a flashbackOk, something's definitely wrong with this world.
>>574028209I wonder what it could mean in monster girl quest Paradox
>>574028209quick, she’s about to break out the level editor!
If you hold on to White Rabbit's leg, does it bring you good luck?
>Scylla are noted to be very cheerful and fond of hugging. They don't really notice until someone else points it out.
>>574028651Shrift ptsd flashbacks
>>574029074Facts.
>>574029074
>>574029074Tentacles are trvly the apex predator of sex...
>>574029718She was pretty helpful in the Shrift collab, though.Since Daji's imitations are 100% perfect, that means the real White Rabbit would do the same.
>>574031230 daji immitations being perfect was always bullshit because the dev wanted to eat his cake and have it too wi the twist where your bro on the telephone is an evil doppelganger, but also wanted you to still like that all the time spent with him and the emotional value of l him killing his possed gf a chapter earlier so uhh perfect imitation! Even though perfect imitation means they wouldn't do the things that undermine whoever the imitator is undermining because thats not their personality.
>>574031230 If Daji's imitation was 100% perfect then she wouldn't have said things that Yuuma couldn't possibly have known
>>574013984dude i hope you picked ilias since she is our ilias form the VN and her route is legit superior to lame version of paradox alice>>574014203don't level warrior or apprentice hero they get maxed out for free later go instead priest or mage
>>574034375>already complaining and spoiling shit about the route he wanted anon to choose>the picture newanon posted has Alice in-frame in the first placeHer route is fine, just let anon have his fun first playthrough. I prefer Ilias too but Alice is a choice for a reason.
>>574033617nta but its ‘perfect’ as in she perfectly copies their behaviors and personality, Daji flubbing her script is a fault of her own rather than her disguise capability.
>>574014203>Luka's warrior or apprentice hero levelsSince an anon already spilled the beans unnecessarily, you would already have maxxed these (and several other) levels if you are playing the game at a normal pace by that point in the game, so don't even worry about itThat being said, Hunter and Mage levels will be useful for later, and there's a few quests in Iliasville that I think you should really do
>>574034375hey now no need to be rude, he's made his choice
With the job and species system, should I aim to pair compatible races and jobs that share the same niche? For example, the dog girl I got is of the Beast race, specialising in melee attack, evasion and agility while sacrificing defence and willpower. Should I give her the Martial artist class or Feral boy class, which buffs the same things? Or should I try to cover her weaknesses. Personally I find the former more enticing
>>574035584Of course, you should be maximizing the character's synergies. Covering weakness is one thing, but the payoff is when you mix trait + job + race. Check the character's traits too, that's a big thing because everyone can be every job, and a handful of limited races they start with.And it's just more fun that way
>>574035869Good to hear. Glad I haven’t gotten the wrong idea.
>>574035584The later you go into the game, the less it will matter. But early on, I think optimizing is going to give you way better results. Just make sure to plan for Intermediate/Advanced classes/races with your class/race leveling as you go
>>573905579Harpies are Angels without their halos. But they don't need halos because harpies are perfect. The idea of harpies with your next of kin laying their eggs gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling. Honestly better than the torment that human women have to deal with.
>>574036578Harpies are offshoots of succubi, be hapy they don't have tails.
>>574037241that’s slander created by promestein’s unethical genetic experiments and you know it!
>>574037241vampires are right there if you want to slander some succubi offshoots
>>574034375Why are iliasfags so retarded?
>>574038274Because Ilias deliberately cultivated her followers to act that way
>>574037241>>574037353
>>574037241Rude! I'll have you know that there are many proud Succubi, including my third daughter, that are scientists, engineers, nurses and doctors that are trying to improve the human condition. They care so much about our fertility, they are giving out free check ups for testicular cancer and STDs. I do so hope that you come by the local fertility church and make a contribution. There are starving Elf and Succubi refugees that need your help.
>>574039425>nd STDsthe STDs came from succs though
>>574039530thats no excuse for the sloppy seconds human women that gave you the same
Dragons dogma made me hate harpies
I DEMAND everyone stops treating beastraces as inherently lesser and as generic mobs...
>>574042365with allies like this you don't need enemies
>>574042471Why are Anon so mean to this cute lil' dindu muffin?
>>574042365This basically confirms that she is, in fact, a potentially very good girl in spirit
>>574043435She only did it because she'd know tamamo would get mad if she knew her delegates got eaten. Its purely hiruko covering her own ass after getting bored and eating things she shouldn't eat
Maybe Fatlice should feed her daughter
>>574043103I hold no animosity. No Hiruko ever called me a Mon-keigh.
>>574043435She just needs a way to keep her hunger in check and she's perfectly fine. Also for her mother to treat her as a proper daughter, half her problems come from unresolved mommy issues.
>>574043552>“getting bored”>not the genetic mind virus hardwired into her dna
>>574043725Humans and elves are cousins.That is just familial banter, don't take it personally.
hi guys ive been in a coma since 2019is part 3 fully done yet
>>574046470kinda. It's out and MTL'd and technically playable from start to finish, with some post game stuff even.trtr might update more shit but if you wanna play it you can play it.
>>574046752wasnt there supposed to be a ng+ second playthrough thing
>>574046470trtr held a vote and the overwhelming majority asked him to just release Part Three with the bare minimum so the full main story would be finished at least, and then do all the postgame stuff after that.So, yes the story is finished. NG++ and the LOC will be sometime in the future.
>>574043857>Muh tragic backstoryHiruko doesn't care. She will eat you and everything you love with a smile on her face
>>574048414I didn’t say she wouldn’t, all I said is that’s not the reason she would.Kanon is the one who kills people out of boredom because she thinks it’s fun.Hiruko has the meat fits. She’ll be trying to do some good old ancestry hunting and then sudden she gets a case of the “i’m hungry”s and next thing you know the town is looking suspiciously like a buffet.
I want to imagine Hiruko sees everything in meat-o-vision every time she’s getting hungry again (which is always)
>>574049747the hungry hungry hiruko was still hungry
>>574035584>With the job and species system, should I aim to pair compatible races and jobs that share the same niche?Yes/NoIt's more about the individual traits.Sometimes there's an overlap, sometimes there's not.Using Chrome as an example, nothing Succubus related for her is going to be as good as the her various Summon categories or Medicine or Machina.
>>574046894and some postgame events they did add 1 relatively recently which is a bunch of big boobied cute angels.
Anon, anon... It's not too late to turn back and walk the path of the light.
Iolias is mine aloneI don't need more monster fuckers get their grubby hands on her
>>574043103Hiruko is fine. Anyone she ate probably had it coming. Besides, it's their fault for tasting so good in the first place. And let's be honest, sometimes people need to be put in their place, in the food chain.
Lolias' (fake) age is too old for me....
>>574023374>picI'm fine with a little anatomical exploration of the privates when it's done relatively safely but even I have to nope out when she pulls out the scalpel
>>574035584In general when you build characters you want to focus on their trait and build for that. For example, with Lime, she gets a bonus to Throwing skills, so you'd probably want to push her towards classes that improve throwing attacks such as thief and ninja. With Pochi, the dog girl, she's more of a generalist since her Trait is kind of mid. Except for that "+15% to all stats for each Beast tyle in the party." That will make her insanely powerful later on if you fill your team up with Beast characters. Another example will be Rami. She gets extra damage with Fire attacks and extra damage to burned foes and she can always use Black Magic, so you'd want to build her as a Black Mage. She also has innate sexcraft skills for when you run into enemies who are resistant to magic.
>reading that other diary for the first time.I'm afraid of Sonya now
Pro tip: Reina is great at dancing! Harpy Dances are very good!
Harpies can't even hit the griddy they are shit dancers
Reject trifling slut dancers, embrace intellectual alchemists
>>574057667they could if they wanted to, but why would they do a shit dance like thatbird dances are cooler
>>574057798alchemy is science but with witch rituals.magic science is where it’s at.
>>574058872which rituals?
>>574052986For me, it's the fox.
>>574058924>local alchemist uses magic book to turn herself into a worm-tentacle pileI don’t know how they do it but it’s some kinda magic thing. We all know witches hunt in that village!
>>574058924The creation of the Philosopher Stone is not a science experiment, it's a magic ritual. The Prima Materia has no bases in reality, it's not observable or can be measured in any way.
>>574008969This is a reference by the way.>>574013984...No.
>>574052986I for one love lolibabas.
>>574057798I've been playing morrowind and oblivion recently and have become thoroughly alchemist pilled.
>>574065116Holy based
I have a confession to make, I don't tend to trust monsters, but I'm a sucker almost everytime a monster shows or offers me their weakspot, like a slime exposing her core and such. That trust wins me over almost all the time
>>574066004It's not trust, they're abusing an exploit in human threat perception!
>>574066217I know it could be a complex trap, but I'm sappy for things like that, but also hate being tricked. I'm either Luka or Luka Blight
>>574066004>exposes their weakspot
>>574066428I was supposed to play this game, is it any good?
>>574035584A general tip I will provide if you're ever a bit confused on where to go or what to do, check in with Amira and the bulletin board in the Pocket Castle.The bulletin board in particular will direct you to various sidequests which unlock once you've obtained the related characters and passed the relevant story checks.As an example of a location locked one, this imp will ask for assistance in learning to fly and ask you to go to some locations with her in the party, usually resulting in a ground sparkle near the summit of a place to trigger the event.
>>574066537Yeah. The /v/ threads when it came out where great
>>574066537It's hilarious, stupidly, good.
I feel like I can't keep up with the threads anymore. Guess that's what having multiple 12 hours shift days in a row will do to you. https://catbox.moe/c/srl1kmWanted to test out Dokukasa, let them pick the girl as couldn't think of one in particular to get, he chose Alma, and they did a set that starts with her having abs. A surprise, but not a problem, the pregnant sex is there.https://x.com/dokukasa/status/2076855352562500068>"When I try to draw Almaelma-san, I want to make her all plump and curvy, but she ends up super buff and muscular instead..." This amuses me for some reason
Die.
>>574074872Do it! No, seriously, do it!
>>574074946>she respawnsgod damn it.
>>574075020But you got something nice from it.
How do I recruit the goblin girl? Supposedly she's in a warehouse in iliasburg, but where's that?
>>574075619In... Iliasburg? Just visit. Get yourself lost a bit. Enjoy the town.
>>574075619Check those corners
With Vanilla, should I make change her from merchant to thief?
>>574076798Probably? At this point of the game, you won't be able to use Merchant skills as much as you'd like, due to a lack of money.Be sure to always have a Thief/Someone with Thief Passives in your party!
So there really is something weird about Sonya.
>>574077801Maybe Illias just got brain damage from falling really hard
>>574077801The start of Ilias being better.
>>574078980Don't bulli!!!!!!
>>574076798You can put her on full support duty and replace Lime if you fancy that. Make her level up the merchant and thief(thief first) lines and never put her in front to fight. Merchants are handy because they have gold drop up passive so aleays nice to have one, and lets you do stuff like use all the nifty items just like if youre going to a shop. You'll really see it pay off in a few towns
>>574080848The merchant class straight up lets me buy healing items in the middle of buttfuck nowhere. Makes grinding easier at least.
>>574081294Wait until you get Domaimer, best trait in the game for a support merchant. Her instant death doesn't trigger if her mercantile abilities are used out of combat
>>574081849No idea what what monster you're talking about but looking forward to it
>>574081952nta, but you’ve seen her in the VN before.she was not a very fortunate mermaid
>>574080848I'm using her as an informat, I've already gotten a higher level thief with ratty.
>>574082094Oh? The queen herself?
>>574082208>Clueless
>>574082782wait. you mean the reverse-mermaid!?
If she's ugly she stays in the castle doing dishes and laundry.
>>574082108Thief you want on a character you know you'll keep around for a long time, since it saves time retraining new thieves if you ever wanna swap. And they're ass in combat.If you like keeping ratty I guess thats fine
>>574082907All of the support abilities are on Luka cause he cannot physically leave the party.
let me guess, this is supposed to be used for zombie girls, isn't it?
>>574085545It has two uses, one is reducing Luka's health so that you can take full advantage of how heroism or some other skills gains damage at low hp, the second is making Luka prematurely ejaculate with the battlefuckers which comes with its own dialogue.
>>574085545>>574085829Well, if you install the tiny improvements, you can also use it on other characters, in case you want to use their crisis traits too.
I have a feeling I should give her the life draining orb, but what does "uncontrollable" mean? Does she start attacking allies?
>>574087250No no. It just mean that she act on her own. It's the same as Berserk and it's advanced ailment.They are "positive" ailments that make the character uncountrolable, but boost your stats. There was a time where it was stonk.
>>574087250>>574087385Correction: Berserk only give +50% ATK and +30% SP Per Turn.Rampage, the advanced Berserk, give +100% ATK, + 50% SP Per Turn, +1 Action.
I've noticed something strange, and that's certain monsters being weak to certain types of attacks despite their races not having that specific weakness. What's up with that?
>>574088594If it's Monsters you fight, it's just a case of gameplay and story segregation. Look up the library.
Jesus christ papi.
>>574083110but what if you want him to do damage
>>574088937>Pleasure 150%Papi...
>>574077801Yeah, since when did Luka have a childhood friend Orc Girl?
>>574089890As if Papi didn't knew what the NPC was talking about!
>>574088594Encounter versions take liberties with the stats a bit, often for theme or just an average of multiple races.
>>574074252More Alma is always nice.
>>574088594Probably the biggest plot hole Sandy and Meta being weak to pleasure in a boss battle, and getting pleasure hypnoed by Minagi in the story.But, the advance Roid race, specifically their own unique race, is supposed to be resistant/immune to such things.
Does this also work on monsters in the backline formation? Or do they need to be frontline?
>>574092984Most passives and accessories should work back row just fine, including that probably
So the Shestas were residents of remina?
Now doesn't this look familiar.
Oh what the FUCK.
Holy shit. It's the bad ending that happens if you run from Granberia's first encounter.
That's new.
>>574059078I like the game but the girls mostly look like potatoes. Plus they are all actual lolis so the game isn't exactly deep emotionally.
>>574094019>pilateKING
>>574094393>>574094501>>574094847>>574094945Yeah the differences start becoming pretty evident even if the flow and path remains similar.
>>574095105Yeah I decided to bring him along because why not kek. Kinda useless as a guard so i made him a merchant.
>>574094019Bring Pilate to the end of the game
>>574095164Would be funny if he gets a upgrade in a later update. But right now, he is the worst RPGmaker placeholder recruit.
Christ. Chirp is so damn useful.Gadabout lvl 6, INFORMAT lvl 6, pre existing support skills which provide immunity to certain debuffs, and even has a passive ability to halve encounter rate. Good girl.
>>574096339Yeah she's pretty good, a lot of harpies are. Best one is the default harpy girl though, she has a thing called "priority" making her go first all the time
Huh, we getting a new blogposter after all this time? Nice.
>>574096525I'm also kind of a newfag, do we get that many usually? I feel like there's at least 3-4 people going through paradox right now
>>574096573I don't know, I've been away for a while. But when part 3 came out, we had like 3 or 4, and a couple more after a few months. Then they stopped, which is understandable. But I think someone going through the game is one of the things that makes these threads lively.
>have to fight grown Alice while looking for MW EdenOy, why the fuck is MY heroine still tiny
>>574096573i've been here a bit, i just havent blogposted in a bit since i'm playing part 3 atm (spoilers) and I'm also trying to nodeath this game on the hardest difficulty (sex is scary, died once to papi to from an aoe but i used my ulitmate technique of relaunching the game (sort of an accident since my parents almost walked in on me playing but it still recorded the loss in records so i dont mind))
>>574097297 (Me)currently grinding out jobs for the gang, trying to get Lona, Christie, Maya, Bonnie and Victoria ready for battle (Luka is already prepared infact he's kinda carrying rn).
>>574097162She's under a different effect did you miss part 2?
Just finished another 330h paradox run the other day but I'm not witty enough to funpost about it. I guess all I can say is I really dislike the first collab chapter.
>>574096525I have to stop for a little while, but I’ll be continuing as soon as I can tomorrow
>>574101550just post whenever you feel like
These human inventions are hostile to our ancestors. Hiruko needs to eat too, y'know?
>succs are now fistKINOdamnalso I'm using the old version because I haven't learned how to manual patch and find all the little bits and bobs to do so yet. Maybe later...
>>574105506De-powerd Hiruko is comedy goldmine.
>>574106065>lost 3 party member after this cutsceneahiiiii
>>574105506>>574106484
>>573969641>Tamamo>conditioned the beast race to be with humans>beast girls are the only monsters that never kill human save for self defence>they are the most wide spread and accepted monster bar none and in MW we see high ranking beast girls protecting human children from the plantsSay what you want tamamo is the only one that thought about the future of her race and even die hard anti-monsterfags have a hard time justifying killing any beast girl i'd argue minagi too but to a much lesser extend and her teachings reaching only to vampires and modern succs failing her teachings and being just brainless cumsluts>SajaEh, does she even do anything? Sure harpies are good girls and "dragons" don't bother anyone but eh
>>574112379Saja is Lamias anyway, not Dragons. Dragons are separate.
>>574112379Saja is indifferent to her creations. Even when hit by crisis, the Lamia and Hapies are left to flutter in the wind, even being put at the mercy of her children. Both races aren't that bad, with some bad eggs, but they don't have any clear protector or leader when it comes to a Ancestor.
>>574115681Angels require no gymnastics.
>>574115681Evil women are more likely to be strong.Humans want strong babiesEvil women hot.
>>574116418They are not good exercise and unhealthy for you. Solely positivity will cause someone to decay morally,
>>574115681>retard so media illiterate that a very basic story is hard to understand nowBrown nosing for sewage angel ilias or something? She’s worse that all the shit on the bottom.
>>574115681it’s funny because it’s obvious who made this, and it’s obvious bait
>all monster girls are evil and will collapse humanity despite the game showing constantly that most of them aren’t evil and they would not collapse humanity, because uh I say so and they just are ok!!!retard.You could’ve at least put Kanon or Sub-Ilias on the bottom instead. Some idiots have even tried to justify Uriela and Gabriella.
>>574115681Exactly. I like Hiurko. No mental gymnastics needed.
>>574119284>UrielaWhat's there to justify? Girl just likes to fight, nothing wrong with that.>But she has a colosseum. And she makes people... FIGHT IN IT!!!Ya no shit, it's a colosseum lmao.
>>574119660Based
>>574096339The only Harpy stronger than her in that area is Reina, but Reina is the strongest harpy in the game or at least the best supporting one. Priority is extremely good and her trait ages very well. Her status rate infliction bonus also comes in handy a lot more often than you might think.Chirp is a good support too though, I used her as a supporting job to help Reina and the others since her dance negates two of the weaknesses the harpy race has in it’s lower tiers
>>574119749>in charge of largest land continent>has every single town on that continent except for one (her personal house) be crackshack shanty dens where everyone is forced to live in squalor and misery>taxes every single person into oblivion so they can’t even try to improve their life, most die comically young>has her angels whip little girls to death because little girls can’t do physical labor fast enough>one guy actually defeats the coliseum challenge and asks if she can just stop being an asshole>GRAAAA ONLY IF YOU FIGHT ME FIGHT ME OR NO>splatters him across the wall in two seconds>conditions for her entire continent become even worse>the humans of her land fall into despair and live in fear and pain>one day she has an epiphany>which is that she stopped getting challengers after turbomurdering that guy>RAAAAGH WHY NO ONE FIGHT ME ANYMORE?!?! ME MAD UAAAAGH>her own staff is starting to worry she’s gonna freak out over this>if Luka didn’t CHAOS her brain she would’ve been so obsessed with retard fighting that she would’ve both gotten herself killed and allowed Kanade to murder the entire city as a result of her meathead tunnel visionThe only credit I give her is that she can at least admit I’m right and she’s horrible at her job
>>574115681Some monster species/individuals are bloodthirstier and more sadistic than others. Simple as that. Hell some even kill their own kind or other monsters if they’re big enough assholes. Coexistence isn’t a pipe dream but some blood will have to be spilt and some monsters/humans will inevitably have to go if it’s to come true.
>>574115681Based.>>574119660Also based.
>>574120943She was born in the wrong AU, she wiuld have been more at home in MW.She is a Gundam girl, her entire purpose is war. Once the Ancestors and Fat Alice were gone, her purpose was gone, but Ilias was too worried about dismantling her.
>>574120943>The only credit I give her is that she can at least admit I’m right and she’s horrible at her job>Live by might makes right>Actually sticks to it and admits its wrongThat already puts her leagues above others
>>574115681>I like Hiruko because she’s a surprisingly deep and well-written characterand>I like Hiruko because she’s absolutely horaifyingare both perfectly valid reasons to like her. Honestly the biggest irony in Part Three to me is that out of every single ancestor and archangel, SHE of all of choices is the one who actually gets the most development and fleshed out and is the only one of the thirteen to actually have a character arc. It’s not surprising she’s the most popular of all of them.I still hate her and want her dead anyway despite all of this and despite feeling some sympathy toward her and liking her on some level, it’s paradoxical but a testament to how effective the demiurge sequence is.She’s just really good at her job.
>>574123346>out of every single ancestor and archangel, SHE of all of choices is the one who actually gets the most development and fleshed out and is the only one of the thirteen to actually have a character arcHiruko's character arc: Uh I'm kind of sad that I'm hungry all the time, now watch me eat things.
>>574123346NTA but I also really like her, abominations and being a knock off girlycaurd makes me like her. But I also appreciate you not trying to posts walls of text explaining why she's not bad>>574123607And that still makes her better than the other ancestors
>>574123714>And that still makes her better than the other ancestorsThe bar is low.
I liked Koron's character arc
>>574123607Hey, it's better than>People dislike me now because I used to make a show of eating children and now I'm SAD! KanonStill, I would say that Uriela, the twins and Minagi also had their mini arcs, Hiruko just happens to be the only one that is in chaos route.
Must you guys spoil when we got a guys who is doing a blind run?
>>574124756If he's blind then how does he read our spoiling?
>>574124756He still has like a hundred hours to even get to part 3 and the spoilers don't mean anything to him yet since they are vague and don't make sense without context. But you are right we should start avoiding mentioning important things like Bonnie being the canonical mother of Luka's children.
>>574121021Even the original VN acknowledged and said this. Lady’s Village and Plansect were key to this point; even in the victory lap the leaders of Plansect aren’t unsealed iirc because they still want to keep the war going.>>574122812I don’t recall Uriela ever saying might makes right was wrong, it was just that she eventually acknowledges that she is a really, really, REALLY bad person to put in charge of a continent.She’s one of the few “winner = right” characters who seems committed to their ideas and beliefs around it though; the only one who surpasses her in this is Koron, to the point she not only has no problem with being defeated by a party but outright tells her mother that the power of friendship is awesome and a totally respectable of power and that she shouldn’t be upset over someone helping her because it just means her friends care about her. Honestly looking forward to her in golden route. Koron is great.
>>574125293You guys are basically talking about the big lines, so he could be remembering that, and ruin everything.Also delete that last line holy shit
At least I have the decency to spoiler
Luka bottoms
>>574123714I’ve discussed her character and stuff before but just because she’s a schizo with a sympathetic origin I NEVER ASKED TO BE CREATED doesn’t mean she’s not a villain or that she wasn’t at fault for anything. She recreated her entire kingdom after eating it during an episode and goes between regret/introspection and “I’m hungry and they tasted great”, and knows something is wrong with her but can’t figure out why due to her mom lying to her for her entire life. It just makes her more memorable than if she was just a generic murderhobo or something.Honestly sometimes I feel like some of you guys can’t look at anything impersonally and just assume anyone discussing something in-depth is either trying to “defend” a character or attacking them, and can’t just be discussing (thing anon enjoyed about the story) or saying (story said x so x is true).
>>574126994That's hot. i wish mgq had some power bottom girls
>>574127758>Honestly sometimes I feel like some of you guys can’t look at anything impersonally and just assume anyone discussing something in-depth is either trying to “defend” a character or attacking them, and can’t just be discussing (thing anon enjoyed about the story) or saying (story said x so x is true).I like characters, I can admit they're wrong and what they did was wrong. I just think that sometimes this game has a habit of whitewashing problems rather than just honestly dealing with the problem and that grates onto everything.
>>574127758>>574128234If I may, it seems like both of you are the same sides of the same coin.
>>574128629My fucking God. SPOILER. THIS. SHIT.
>>574128764it's been over 7 years dude the time for spoilers is over...4chin didn't register my spoiler tag
>>574128881A guy is literally playing blind and posting. Have some respect.
well, maybe bloganon can only look at (you)s
>>574128927I refuse to respect blogposters, it is my divine right to spoil everything.
>>574128927>>574128764yeah sorry about that
>>574129659thank you
Realistically there's no reason why the sams couldn't have been brainless meat sacks in test tubes, and to have the second class citizens put to work in their place, but angel world needed a cold open like monster world so that it wouldn't be seen as the undeniably good side.
Imagine how over a longer period of sexual selection all humans would be perma-shotas with massive balls and cock for more semen extraction, kind of like chickens today and monsters would be complaining about lower quality like how we do today about meat quality(those old enough to know the difference anyway).
>>574130201it’s the ‘ [ ‘ brackets and then a lowercase spoiler in between those brackets. It looks like> [ spoiler ]Without the arrow or spaces.It’s not that hard to do. The game has been out for less than two years and people would like to play it without you dumping this shit I’m not even getting into an argument with you over that part of the story just have some basic decency it’s not that hard.
>>574130914bwo if he's adamant about spoiling then just let him be. He specifically was hating on bloganon
>>574130914I think he maybe doing it on purpose since he sees you getting upset,
>>574130201It was Gabriella's idea, and the Sams were only a stop gap. The real plan was ultimately canceled because Ilias hated the final product.
>>574130201Realistically none of us would be Sams so why should I care about their lives
>>574131113the Sams were not stop gaps for Replicants, those happened before them and are unrelated. The Sams were approved by Sub-Ilias and she had no issues with the idea.They exist specifically so that they wouldn’t just be meat sacks, and instead they could get a lot of manual labor out of them instead. It would have been more ethical to just have lab grown organs, but they chose the option that was far more cruel and inhumane solely because none of them actually care about humans at all and see all of them as just tools or objects. The Sams are distinct individuals with their own personalities and dreams, and they’re treated poorly and then led on with false promises only to have all their insides ripped out while they’re still alive and then dumped in the trash. Any angel who disagrees with this or tries to help them is killed and replaced.It being pointlessly cruel is the entire point, because that’s ultimately what Sub-Ilias and her world actually is underneath all the propaganda. They will lure people in with promises of paradise and then forcibly work them to death, kidnap them to fuel the spirits they made to replace the ones Ilias killed, or leave them to live in perpetual misery, just so a tiny community that was handpicked to blindly worship Ilias will continue to stroke her ego as the whole Arc is just an ego trip and nothing about it was actually altruistic. The only leader who does care for her subjects is undermined by Ilias at every turn because she views it as a slight, and it takes all but one of the leaders in charge being killed for the survivor to honor Luka by turning the arc into the idealized place it was made out to be.I honestly don’t understand why some people believed AW wouldn’t be a dystopian hellhole, it was kind of obvious it was going that direction.
>>574132976>s only to have all their insides ripped out while they’re still alive and then dumped in the trashThat was the only shit part, they all had happy lives before that. I would even say they have a better life than average workcamp retard
>>574130914I'm the guy who well posted the spoilers and told that the spoiler tag didn't work i think this anon >>574130201 though is doing it on purposeI even deleted my post
>>574133728It’s because they’re all treated like farm animals who are fed nonsense and get to live in ignorance for the most part due to not usually having a means to figure it out. The work camps suffer far more in their daily lives, but the sheer 180 betrayal the Sams go through is so cruel that the worker angels started trying to hide signs that they’ve reached physical prime or try to shepard them away in secret passages because doing anything else will get both of them killed and they just can’t take it anymore.I do think what Uriela did to her kingdom in AW is worse, if for no other reason than she did it to every single city except her own (Gabriella at least contained it to one) and she’s also doing it deliberately because she views humans with contempt for being ’weak’.Which is why everyone hates Gabriella more for what she does in the final route, where she leads her kingdom to fight Hiruko and then abandons everyone to die so she can backstab her sibling and then plot to murder Kanon, solely because she thought it was “easier”.>>574134885I know he’s not you, I was the one who said thank you. Mistakes happen and I appreciated it.
>>574132976It's funny though because in spite of that AW is still better than MW. It sucks for the Sams being artificial humans who have their bodies chopped up so their organs can be transplanted into other people, but in MW they just grab random people off the streets and feed them to Kanon's art gallery so that people can applaud. The worst thing that happens in AW is an average tuesday on MW.
>>574135490Not really, It changes from city to city. MW has lower lows but outside Kanon and Hiruko, the rest of the kingdoms are more reasonable for the most part, with some being actively good. AW on the other hand is generally worse all around unless you are one of Illias bootlickers.
>>574135490MW has plenty of cities and kingdoms that are doing fine or treating people normally, but the land is a blasted heath, half of them are constantly at war, and every city or kingdom that isn’t in good lands or with an Ancestor who treats it fairly is pure nightmare fuel.Comparatively almost the entirety of AW is 1984 and living is misery or stifled from meaning and they kidnap people for reasons ranging from sacrificing them as fuel sources to thought crimes or even just abducting and murdering them to get back at someone else even if they didn’t do anything wrong themselves (re: Juska being executed for her father’s crimes despite having no knowledge of anything in order to spite him).I honestly do think it evens out.
>>574135913 I think MW is propped up by how tame Kanade is in contrast to the other ancestors
>>574135913>>574136058What are the ups in MWI legit don't remember any good places to live apart from Yamato
>>574136283 Yamato is a research institute where people are kidnapped and experimented on
>>574136486Huh, I thought they only did that to angels
>>574136283>What are the upsLots of ups if you're a monster. But if you're a human the only up is being on a succubus farm getting milked but that only lasts until someone gets too hungry accidentally kills you.
The problem with AW is that they tell you that there's a majority that is oppressed for a minority.. By in practice, you only see two towns who are bad. One is Sabasa, which is more of a factory, the other is a poor town.MW is the opposite, most towns are terrible, the only good towns there is are San Ilias, and that's for the elites of elites who does things with their lives, and Yamato. But Yamato has the cursed elevator so it's undermined.>>574136486Only Angels. And then, no one talked about it.
>>574136283Kanade and Minagi cities were perfectly fine places to live as humans alongside Yamato, the experiments were only against angels. Besides that, the random towns were mostly fine, succ village was the worst of the lot.>>574136486Only for angels and other beings, nothing implies humans were studied
>>574136283>Gold Port>Grand Noah>Finoa>Port Natalia>San Ilia>Enrika (Micela owns it but MW leaves her alone and Hiruko just shows up to kill (you) specifically; contrast Ilias trying to murder all the mermaids living in Raphela’s territory entirely because she’s petty)>That one human town that lives in the sticks but gets protected so the wasteland is more the problem there
>>574137064>KanadeWasn't she outright attacking people when trying to take back her town, like Kanon does?
>>574137139Out of those I remember one port city was taxed to hell and brothel city just sucked in general if you don't have skillsI guess the rest were fine then?
>>574137139Time shows that Illias and Lazuras were not wrong in wanting to do so.
I want to hug a Harpy
I want to hug my wife, Doppel,.
I want to hug my mom
>>574139401I hope she's okay anon
I want to hug anon's wife, Doppel
I want to hug Luka's mom
>>574139597
>>574139738how did Cellus tame this
>>574131883What is a sam?
>>574139996"Stupid anon I manage""Silly angel monkey""Slipper angle Machine""Smelly asshole maker."
>>574139996the guy from that Dr. chrome book
>>574139996sam is the man
>>574140158Oh, how could I forget Surface to Air Missile.
>>574137184She is fine when there was no war. When things were going well, her slimes' happiness dictated her actions. Prior to the war, her city state was great. Everywhere else in her territory not so much, but her priorities were not threatened.
>>574137039>minorityAnon there’s a number of towns you visit there that aren’t very good it’s not just two. Sariella’s city is functionally just a jail/trap and the impoverished area you fight the robo harpy at also gets airbombed by Lucifina’s children who start murdering everything in the town indescriminantly, something that’s built up to by NPCs saying this has happened multiple times already and it’s implied Ilias never does anything about it since Lucifina just goes after “lower class” locations in the first place (so therefore she doesn’t care) to vent her grief-induced madness.
>>574139597Small peepee. I want to fuck her
>>574142919Lucifina is kind of no better than Ilias...in a way.Seriously girl, you went and attack thee people who cannot fight back? Who are also a victim of Ilias? God she is such a bitch.>robo harpy...Is it wrong if I want a mecha harpy?
>>574143476Daystar counters your cock
The insurance doesn't cover fox rape, says it doesn't exist.
>>574115681>Yes she's a voracious beast that forever hungers for more flesh but she's actually a good girl deep downThis but unironically
>>574145225Facts.Trust me, I'm a lawyer.
>>574146605No she isn't.
>>574146964[citation needed]
>>574147103[citation given by the entire population of the sabasa region:]
>>574147103MGQ:Paradox Part 3.
>>574147498They never even said anything about her, so it sounds like she's a great ruler!
>>574145225>>574146931Kitsune Divorce Lawyer objects.Pursuant to the clause in subsection 3, the use of Fluff to alter one's mental capacity is considered an abandonment of Consent.Additionally, as per the addendums in section 1, "Konsent" does not exist and is not a substitute for valid Consent. It seems foxes often try that one.Furthermore, marriage is a contract between a man and woman under Ilias. While other ceremonies may be observed regionally, only official marriages under Ilias are recognized by the church and their subsequent jurisdictions. "Cumming 3 times" is not a church or state recognized marriage.Officially speaking, the church considers the denizens of Yamatai to meet the critera of a cult who kidnaps, enslaves, and brainwashes men.This case will likely result in the standard Juiceboxing sentence for the offending Kitsune, due to the repeated and egregious nature of the offenses.
>>574115681the gymnastics imply that uh THE HUMANS THEMSELVES DIDNT BECOME GIGARAPIST GROOMERS IN RESPONSE TO MONSTERGIRLS DUE TO THE CATFISH EFFECT.This is why human women become less shit in monstergirl settings they are forced to evolve.
>>574160797You know, MGQ is one of the MG franchises were human females don't get changed into monster girls much, even though it has the hallmarks of being one, since dark mana is a thing. Outside of the succubus village, and I guess Sara, the female corruption aspect of the MG genre is really little here.It's so rare, it's not something people consider a threat to humankind, when you think it should be, at least in the VN.
>>574163546humans are still sluts in response look at selene im not even talking about corruption it's evolution directly in response.human women get more active in response to monstergirl pussy being overpowered.
Hollowwald demo translation is outhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1ho6y1kseWJSNxjm1fT9T1TGHP6hH8mpA/view?usp=sharingThere's three scenes total, the scene with the angel is in the memory space only. You go to that from your bed.
>>574164753I love Angels so much
>>574164753Things like mana potions and multiple types of magic stones exist. Monsters and angels saying they fuck for that delicious mana are only using that excuse to rape you.
The full game should be really great
>>574164753>>574166759>hackikafag is digging for attention again
>>574166094>why would people want a full course meal when they can just live off of protean shakes and energy bars?
>>574166885Genuinely, I haven't posted here in over a year. I've been just quietly waiting for Sequel thirst's translation all this time. Hollowwald coming soon and its demo getting translated is a coincidence to my timing.
>SLOPQUEL
>>574164753so even angels aren't immune to mana lust? human females, monsters and now angels, to be a man in such a world, your willy is gonna get bullied
>>574169762Get married then.Even rapists there respect the sanctity of marriage.
>>574170035Isn't marriage a license to rape for women?
If she bully penis, she will never see this smile.
>>574179209Its just a little roleplay, bro. which is why perpetua has some of my favorite h-scenes ever, her trying to roleplay as the great demon lord defeating the hero is peak
Human women are better than monster girls.
Constanze pls go
>>574182019Better is subjective. Strength is not.
>>574181167I think her later scenes are an act of karmic balancing to make up for the fact that Perpetua's first H-scene is sounding.