You're all lazy niggers, so now you get a Charlotta thread.Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://gbf.wiki/Granblue_Fantasy:_Relink>FAQhttps://rentry.org/RelinkFAQ>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackOld Thread: >>573919764
this isn't a charlotta threadit's a much better kind of thread
Patch when?
>>573965764>You're all lazy niggers, so now you get a Charlotta thread.Lazy nigger alert!
>>573965764That's a very busty looking Box...
>>573965780*miss* *miss* *miss* *dodge*
>>573965764Thank you salsa, very cool!
>best Bea maximum autism dummy strats so far is 400M buffs incoming.
I wanna hop on the bandwagon before the nerfSo does fediel use a skill, claw once, drop orbs (dodge canceling the first one) and then... fall to the ground and use another skill? Idk if any of her other air moves are worth the time lol
>>573966048>miss miss miss miss resist miss resist resist resist>end result -66k hp per turn
>>573966132skill -> get to orbs as fast as possiblemaximize orb damage and cap
>>573965937>>573965764>anon was so lazy he didn't remove my bit of text from the OPPeople just be proving me right.
Just got to Chaos+, should I continue with quests or do conflux?
>>573964294I dont really mind the slight loss in meter refund but the cooldown can be felt, im just not sure if I would want to replace anything
Fediel, Fraux, Id, DPS tests, who careswhere's DANCHOUS?
I for one will continue to use fediel postnerf because she's fun and also the best girl only thing that'll get me off her is sarasa>>573966132you pick the master trait that lets her do 5 finishers and do all of them. you can dodge cancel them shortly after the ball appears above your head to do them a little faster
>>573966205Right but like after she drops all 5 orbs then what Do you just fall to the ground?
>>573966274The prophecies speak of the support Danchou that you may encounter in the wild, your raid becoming nothing but button mashing as he tanks all the dmg.
>>573965937>>573966224Last thread was on page 10 with no baker in sight I was quick and overlooked one thing.Besides Sarasa is just Box with tits.
>>573966353you can go back into normal attacks, after 3 air normal attacks she'll stomp, you can blackflash->claw->more finishersthe skill that teleports her forward also lets her go right into claws without stomping, but you want to stomp because black's mark is -30% defense
That Charlotta looks weird
>Obsessing over deepsCouldn't be me
Please redpill me on how to Fraux
My CPU teammates are showing me up in Chaos+...
>>573966397>support danchoutheres no way this is the best way to play, i dropped cag because i didnt want to play support. Unless Crux is really that good
>>573966072All of Bea'a skills have insane reach meaning her uptime in actual bossfights is way higher. Dummy comparison is so fucking retarded I hate you meta niggers so fucking much go back to playing Worlo Worcar, collecting your world buffies and circlejerk eachother off over your raid parsies.
Would you guys play with me if I am a shitter that just started ER?
>>573966486You just put her on autoplay. It's pretty optimal.
>>573966617B-but anon, big numba go up, mean good!
>>573966259Just continue with the quests, the real shit begins in the later quests of Chaos++, you'll know it when you see it.
>>573966617is joke I know it's kinda insane how good she gets with uptime by simply hugging the boss's balls and facetanking most of the damage. In my friend group I've gone from being there to MVP with Feidel and supporter farming honors.
FINALLY a berserker echo with a usable sub
>>573966617This but without the insults, dummy numbers don't always translate to actual fight results
>>573966819you're gonna throw that away once you get it on a summon
>>573966550I play Cag because I can phantasmagoria, sit back, and jack off while my comrades eat dirt and get slaughtered. And the Narmie always gets the blame for wiping
>>573966871Knowing my luck that will probably take a while
>>573959595>>573959775https://x.com/account/access
100 hours of MP
There's nothing better than firing 4 Grade IV shot barrages in a row...
Is there something I'm reading wrong with enemies? I had this game since launch and i still get blindsided by attacks and i still cant tell whens a good time for dodges. am i the only one who has this issue?
>>573967090Is Gandhagoza the most wasted slot in the history of gaming.
>>573966620why would you want to play with 4chan posters?
>>573967090i disagree with this listmost of the shitter lancelots dropped him after they realized fof doesn't work for him anymorenarmaya being a shitter character was always a forced memei've seen more yodas than i have danchous and rackhams combined
so if someone is substituting damage for you are you supposed to get hit to enable them in some way?
>>573967249Jiisan...
why is she like this?
>>573966883Well i want to be thte one eating dirt and doing damage, its upsetting the devs want to commit to the captain being this weird jack of all trades support character
eh I'll take it for now.
I've been convinced to thread-only here and never join any of your lobbies.
Already beat all the infinites, I'm going to build up the archer girl next because she's hot and none of you can convince me otherwise
*literally protects you, fucking dies for you*We're in this together, I will not see you harmed. Worry not, my friend. I can take it.
>>573966550I play Cag because I'm horny for the idea of being Cag and will be in whatever position that helps add to it
>>573966397Does phalanx help with the substitute build?I'm struggling to have more HP unless I drop all the damage cap stuff
>>573967813KYAA JEEGUFREEDO
>>573967764She already has a boyfriend
>>573967928nvm, in the dumpster she goes
>>573967264Not even the Barafags want him. They all just play Vaseraga or Gallanza now that they have him as an option and can escape the charge-attack cuckcage. At this point he's just the token goofy character. Like the Bear in Tekken.
>waiting for members to join... 3/4>3 fucking minutesIt's a god damned quick quest. Why does this keep happening? My shit is set to Any and cross platform. Don't tell me they couldn't unfuck their onlihe.
>>573968109vaseraga IS the charge-attack cuck cage
>>573967441>complains how no one wants her for anything but sex>complains every other woman is bitterly jealous of her>continues to dress like a slut and show everything off anywayShe's just the average woman, anon.>>573967692You're a faggot then. All my lobbies with /gbfrg/ have been nothing but great, even during Relink's original run.
most SOVL characters/mains?
>>573967427Sieg and Captain's passives only go up to 10 so if they look healthy and aren't at ten yeah help a brother out. Still avoid the big hits but if you get a chance to eat a low power attack go ahead. Crux captain is basically doing half-damage if you're not letting him stack his passive. At 10 stacks though you don't have to. While they do get a bonus 20% supp damage if someone takes a hit thats just gonna naturally happen, play normally
>>573968258You motherfuckers complain about being outdamaged.
>>573968228Doesn't Ghandi also do charge attacks as his primary damage?
>>573968228But he looks cooler and number is bigger
>>573967439I'm not 30 yet.
How much of Fediel being broken is because of her animation skip? Would fixing that even balance her?
>>573968358I never had people do that before.
I unlocked 50 Mastery Cap and i dont know who to dump my points into
>>573968383Technically he's closer to a perfect attack character since he wants perfect combos so that his charge attack does more damage and has a super short charge time
>>573968273Ghandagoza and its not even close
>>573968410I can still do over 300m on barrold not doing a single dodge cancel and not autismo minmaxing.
>>573968410all they need to do is lower some of her damage numbersif the 5x finishers didn't do full finisher damage and did like 60-70% instead that would fix that trait
>>573967813seeing one in infinity faa is always a treat>pops it during the paradise lost charge up so that nobody gets their SBAs sealed>often eats max hp downs because of protecting everyone
>>573968225>Don't tell me they couldn't unfuck their onlihe.
>>573968716>all they need to do is lower some of her damage numbersNot even. Her SBA generation is also almost twice as high as the average character, and the ease of use and survivability is also incredibly high for such a strong character. Making her actually in line with other characters will be like 9/11 for people that use her.
Support Danchou, Rosetta, Cag, or Katalina?
>>573969003oh no not high SBA generation when you always want to full burst. another very easy number tweak fix that won't change all that much about how she actually plays, by the way
>>573968585So more like Siegfried in a way
>>573968225The matchmaking only matches you with people who have the same region setting. So even if you set yours to Any, you still won't be matched with people who have theirs set to Japan.
>>573965764Man Sarasa would be amazing to add to the roster
>>573968408But soon.
I'm guessing Sandalphon struggles a bit as AI because he gets stout heart forced on him when he's transformed. I wonder if Lancelot might be okay as AI or if it's too held back by being a dogshit character
I'm playing with randoms and they can't beat the Chaos+ fire lizard
Anyone have Io as an AI? How is she faring, and which mastery are you using?
What character do I play to stop my team from telling me I'm playing an overpowered character? So far it's happened with Io, Eugen, Charlotta and Fraux
What settings do you change in game options to test how the AI behaves against the attack dummy?
>>573969934Cagliostro.
>>573969592>I wonder if Lancelot might be okay as AI or if it's too held back by being a dogshit characterwhy are so many of you guys parroting the idea that lancelot is shit?
>>5739699592nd tab from the training menu lets you spawn in the AI team. Alternatively turning on full assist lets you see what the AI will do in a real scenario except for movement
>>573969062Cag if you're a metafagRosetta if you're a gamerDanchou if you wanna be a snowflakeKatalina if you're a masochist
>>573970017Because he is. All his masteries are lackluster and his damage isn't good.
Failed three times trying to do Chaos++ Bubs.Someones always just keeps dying... I wanna progress.
why do people keep posting stout heart on summons when it fucks your bots
>>573967090Maggiebros, we're just barely avoiding the shitter zone...
>>573970126He was doing fine damage in the few parties I saw oneare you parsing the retards who kept using fof?
>>573970225Cause people don't play with bots.
>>573970161Post a lobby for people to join then, idiot.
>cutscene auto skip is turned off by defaultin what fucking world would you want to watch the intro and outtro cutscenes more than once
>>573970512No, I have him built up and almost maxed transcend on everything, and I've never been a FoF Lancelot kinda gamer. He just doesn't feel good to play and is also not rewarding even if you play well.>avalanche lv9 tree punishes you the moment a boss fucks off for more than 2 seconds and requires you to constantly be up their ass>skill chain tree just has mediocre performance and wants you to mash X for 2 seconds between each skill finisher>perfect dodge tree has to ramp up to 10 perfect dodges just to do okay damage but with a lengthy animationAll of these strict conditions but he doesn't really bring anything amazing to the table in damage, SBA gauge generation or buffs. He just has his self-stun glaciate which is fine, but not enough to redeem him
>>573969934Why do they care so much? At that point just own it and play Fediel.
>>573970998Could be worse, he could be Sandalphon
For full assist afking, I'm guessing a ranged character is the best choice to AFK with? Melee characters seem to idle unless the boss is kissing them
>>573971015I think they have really bad self esteem and project their insecurities onto being good a a videogame. I kind of understand and want everyone to be happy and enjoy playing many characters anyway so I feel the easiest solutions just to try someone else, especially since Honors seems dubious at best anyway, surely there's a way to game it in reverse
>>573970161I did it with bots to learn his fight before jumping in MP.You can clear the 15% DPS race if you keep Link Time 100% in your pocket during the first Stun, SBA, summon and then Link Time again.My bots aren't very geared, none of them have fully transcended weps
>>573968258she wants to be appreciated for more than just her looksthat doesn't mean she still doesn't want to look good
>>573971362Yeah well that's not how that works. Modesty is the only way you get people to want you for more than just one thing.
>>573970225I've yet to see my bots die with stout heart, but then again they have so many defensive buffs they probably take very little damage.
Does the eustace master trait 30 "shotgun" actually shotgun or is it just fake AoE?
>>573971573It's a 3 way spread kinda shotgun and all 3 can hit the same target
I'm at extreme rank right now, does Io want anything specific or do I just keep trucking on with just weapons leveled up to 125 or so
Any cog mains out there?What Mastery builds are you using?I really like Super Collapse.
>>573971749most characters use roughly the same sigils/weaponsyour main progression will be ascension -> terminus -> any of the transcended weapons (usually defender or stinger for HP/Crit) -> transcended ascension or terminus depending on if you want to have HP or not
I dont care if people are mad that I'm using Io. she's a fucking Magic Great Sword main, it doesnt get better than that at all
>its a "someone just decides not to SBA in the chain" episode>its a "someone just decides not to join in on a link attack" episodehow did these people even make it to chaos++?
Only the lowest most ignorant nigger shit subhumans actually complain about what character you use. No one outside of this thread fucking cares.
>smiley eyeballOkay that motherfucker felt WAY too tanky for the first real boss of the DLC. No way 3 lvl 100s with Terminus weapons are too weak.
Is Sigil fusion weighted? Like if I fuse Spartan Echo + Debuff Res with a Supplemental + different Debuff Res, am I prone to just get double debuff res or are all combinations equally likely?
>>573972337well first off you can't fuse echoes
>>573967646So if you stack defense can you just tank everything? Vane use to have his auto combo spam with max dmg cut and was basically invulnerable before
>>573972142Very unrelated and slight spoilers for endgame ER,I always wonder what the best thing to do for infinity faa and hexa is. Full SBA before Paradise Lost and hope you get the link time stun on him then? Or give up the link time and do a regular link attack and then SBA paradise lost? And then on hexa, full 4 SBAs on the boss? Or do 3 SBAs and save 1 for the trials?
>>573972372Okay fine, Cap up + Debuff res or whatever, you get me
>defeat Ragnalia to collect memories 0/8What am I doing wrong? I did the Fatebringer missions and still no progress in the quest. They put quest markers on everything except where you need to go I swear to god.
>>573972630don't worry about it, keep doing any new missions you come across unless you get to a rank up quest, then do that and do stuff in the new difficulty
>>573972630just clear every questthat objective is laid out retarded. you'd think it'd just be hunt any 8 ragnalia but it's just "clear the game and we'll give you increments of progress wen we feel like it"
>>573972630its a cutscene counter not a quest counter
>>573972630Just keep playing the new quests, it's about seeing 8 events not doing 8 quests.
>>573972460>infinity fabest thing is>getting ougi chain before 80%>linked time hopefully before overdrive for extra damage>skipping any possibly paradise lost in 80-50>50-0 start, saving up ougi chain up to as soon overdrive would start>push him to 30 with the overdrive chain so he goes into gopherwood instead>now break him with link->ougi chain before the endthis nets you 0 paradise lost he even gets to attempt
>>573967646When do I start getting summons like this so I can start farming? Infinity?
>>573972401It helps if you have some built in tankiness. Steel nerves gives you a flat -15% damage in Stout Heart on top of other defense bonuses. With Garrison at full HP you get even more defense. All that damage reduction goes even further with the availability of shields from a lot of sources
>>573972460I'm sure in the true endgame there's optimizations and SBA timings and shit that's fight specificbut I'm talking just regular quests. I just wiped on the chaos++ blackwyrm enrage because some dipshit didn't want to use their SBA
>>573972680>>573972720>>573972824>>573972861Thank you. I'm glad it wasn't me being retarded and missing something in plain sight.
>>573967646Read brother, it says Chaos++. Infinity is for farming the big mega summons but you can do just fine grinding out lads in normal fights.
>kill the Smiley Eyeball boss>"You can upgrade your weapons even further! Talk to the referee!">*This weapon cannot be upgraded further*Is this game just fucking with me now? Or am I supposed to ditch my Terminus weapons and upgrade the old stuff?
Potato salad
I really don't get the design philosophy behind bloodlust and just how many annoying run around while holding your cock phases there are in this game. If they want the fight to be longer couldn't they just give the boss more HP? Why does the endgame progressively have more and more bosses that float into the air and create grid patterns for you to run around in or get long duration phases where they have almost full damage immunity?
>>573973149>3 retards and their tard wranglerkek
>>573971236You can tank with Sieg or danchou and make it easier for everyone, but if they're bothered by someone helping them, then you rhetorically ought to ask who they think you should play, because it's blatantly unreasonable and their answers will be too.
Ok i give monster hunter a lot of shit but6 fucking wyrms? really?
>>573973103yeah the terminus weapon wont be fully upgraded until you beat the entire game
Anyone try Cag with the Healing Mastery tree? I'm curious if the shields could be more useful than the Collapse buff.
>>573973187I prefer bloodlust phases that let you hit the boss still even if it's for 10% of the damage, because it helps characters that are reliant on it not get cucked. This MMO-lite raid shit being a constant rather than special one off cases in lategame named bosses has been annoying, it doesn't really being in an ARPG imo. Pyet-a was a lot of fun when he wasn't steamrolled instantly, because while he has mechanics he never truly fucks off and forces you to stop playing the game for 15s+
>>573973207I think its literally just the honors saying they got like half of what I did even though I dont think they reflect reality very well
>>573967090>ioPro at missing link attacks
>>573973306Fuuuuuck. So what's the next best weapon to upgrade until then? The old Ascended weapons or just any.
Are people just not running revive potions anymore, or are they just dying so fucking much
>>573967845yes you can maintain 100% damage cut with about 50% uptime
>>573973475I don't want to farm res potions so be a good cuck and revive me. That goes for potions too so you better have a healing skill.
>>573973472just use defender until you can transcend the ascension wep or even just keep using defender until you can transcend terminus, the difference between the new transcended weapons are minor besides terminus
Lancelot's dummy numbers are so bad
>>573966550crux is THAT good. the damage buff from charisma is a 1.8x damage cap bypassing multiplier
>>573973472Max defender then move to ascension
>>573973475potion hoarder got nerfed to give 1 less pot, also a lot of people just think they can run terminus for the entirety of the dlc with 40k health
Beabros and the critical gauge, name a more iconic duo
>>573970121Rosettas gameplay seems much more interesting but Cag is so cute
>katalina's crux needs to heal people since light wall takes too long>everyone is running ventus which disables healing for teammates
Full auto afk farming bros what teams are you using? I'm using mag as the player character with npc cag, frau, and because she's most invested io, but if all investments were the same sieg would be better right?
>>573973771no...
Pubs can't beat furicane now
>>573974327I remember that event, who brings a swimsuit so a frozen island? What an idiot.
>>573974149percival and eustace shit out damage as ai
>>573974440My pubs had no such issue.
just how much damage is transferref to Sieg when he uses the group life link? I fucking drop dead half the time despite having 200k HP
My pubs can't beat anything. No matter what quest I do the bar is always empty when I go down... -_-
>>573974768200k isn't that much. That's literally the cap for Transcended Terminus.
>>573972401Anon, have you seen how borderline immortal Vane is in ragnarok?
>>573974463bea is not an idiot she's uhhh simply built different
>>573974842Nope. It's sorta annoying how much time you need to put to get characters "good" now. I have something like 60 hours since the dlc dropped and have maxed 2 chars only.
Meet your next DLC character
>>573974778Honestly? I'm envious. It gets too easy later on
>>573974819I'm barely in the beginning of chaos++ man, this ain't going any higher unless I drop all offensive sigils and lifemaxx
>all my characters cap with 2 HP, 3 Stun, 5 Defensive/Pink main sigils for 30% DEF and 2 character sigils>Stout Heart on summon with Steel Nerves on a sigil>take literally 0 damage on Ferry, minimal on everyone else in infinityThat 20% ATK per red sigil turned out way more useless than I thought while the 30% DEF is crazy strong wow
>comes across a Lancelot>he starts spamming "Use SBA when I use it" and "I'm calling the shots" emote several dozen times>already floortanking before the first overdrive>forced to 3-man SBA because this retard dies on every puddle>managed to wipe us at 4% HP leftThis isn't Elden Ring little gup, maybe try to configure your block button before trying to call the shots
game needs to stop switching me to Gran PLEASE
>>573974974And everything slaps for 50-75k+. Even 50% of that directed to you from a teammate a handful of times is gonna leave you fucked up.
Sometimes when playing Siete and exiting avatar mode, the Swordshine level remains there so next time I enter avatar mode I have some shines. Other times it seems to go away entirely. I have no idea when either happen.
>>573974947Half of it seems to be weighted towards MSP grind. The weapon grind is far easier now though, I have 4 characters all transcended just from a little bit of afk farming while shitposting here
Alright, nee-chang main just hopping back for the ER expansion.What's changed with her, what mastery is currently working best and do I need to change up anything from my old build?Is Song still shit?Is Ferry still shit?Is the new potato worth using at all?
Is Gran sleeping with all of the girls on his ship? Is this like a harem situation? And if not, who is sleeping with who?
post da infinity lobby
>>573975237Gran sleeps with his buddy Vee, occasionally Naru tries to sneak in but fails, Galleon managed to sneak in a couple of times as shown in her summer fates.
>>573975237sorry bwo this is a homogame. Half the females are fucking the other half, all the dudes are gay and wanna fuck Lucifer. Gran does have a small harem but the devs HATE them all. Funnily enough, Djeeta gets 0 dick, nobody cares about her.
>>573975208>Is Song still shit?Yes.>Is Ferry still shit?Always will be.>Is the new potato worth using at all?Only if you wanna play support. Her damage is fine but it feels super boring to play her compared to all the more flashy DPS characters we got.
>>573975237If you mean sex then no, if you mean just sleeping together, he did it with many girls.
is there any way to look at someone's build after playing with them?I want to learn from people that carry me
>>573974947>time85% of shit is done in a heartbeat with conflux. Mastery points are the real grind.
how does Io build stun gauge? I feel like i'm not contributing much to stun buildup for these infinity bosses (lucilius especially)
>>573975364>Gran does have a small harem but the devs HATE them alNot true, most of them see regular content, Europa got a unit just now>Djeeta gets 0 dick, nobody cares about her.Also not true, Eustace and Lobelia and that swimsuit guy i forget the name of are pretty (You)bait characters meant for Djeeta players.
>>573975524star gazer shits out stun, as does flowery 7, so just play as normal
>Bahamut Versa rock-em-sockem summon battle is based on the MC's PWRWhy the fuck would they actually make me level the MC up in the POST GAME
Bea's screaming gives me life
Retard who picked the game up again after the update. Made it to around 20k power level on Sieg. How do I play this guy? What are the best abilities?
>>573975524Stargazer V, Flowery Seven, and Fireball all have massive amounts of stun. If anyone gets the most out of this basic sigil damage cap thing and filling slots with stun, it'll be you.
>>573975553to be fair you dont need too much, I only ad one weapon at 125
anyone slime blasting right now?
>>573975172i can't tell if its online play lag that's killing me or the damage intake from party members. it is quite literally full to dead in a second sometimes
Danchou....
>>573975704He was somewhere in the 3000s when I beat the game. I'll probably go in again around 6.5k and breeze it
>>573975738Yeah that's why you don't go tank Sieg for rando shitters. They WILL make you instantly dead every time cause there's too many brown turd worlders with access to the internet now.
>>573975584You gotta hit perfect executionsHis endgame stuff requires inhuman reactions, still playable but you're gonna be performing much much worse than AI
>>573975687It's tough to fill in because Io really wants Quick charge and you don't have that many sigil slots.
Now they can't beat MagnagarmAlso bringing in the OG magna summons OST is nice but Magnagarm's song is kind of better than Leviathan's
What are the best and/or most fun support builds I should be running in this game?It seems like Captain has some good builds now. Rosetta quality of life is nice. Yoda appears to be a "your normal DPS rotation aids other people." I've seen comments on leddit like>thank god we had a support captain in this runor whatever. I want to play a character like that who can sort of carry.I'm also interested in big tank builds, like isn't there something like Vaseraga being able to tank for his allies?Be gentle because I'm basically new to this game and it's difficult to look literally anything up :) dead english-speaking community
How much double sided tape is involved with this top?
Bea bros... help me fix this...
>>573975295im down for infinity9LYC 7H8N 6PG2 G078pw: rageNot sure if we can fill this late
>>573975374Damn, and here I thought I could finally play Song at more than just a sort-of-decent level and hope Ferry graduated from being a joomp spammer.I guess I need to look into Zeta again since Maglielle being support doesn't appeal to me. I didn't like how Fraux and Beato felt even on the training dummy either (that entire clock mechanic just grinds combat to a halt as far as I can see).No one seems to have advice for Naru so I guess I'll just figure something out and hope I can keep getting near top damage at least.
>>573975780What's the deal with the Phonya cat? Am I missing something?
>>573976021Unfortunately Song was just a Paralyze bot and now all the high-end bosses are Paralyze immune and they didn't buff her damage to make up for it so now she just sucks.
>>573975894Substitute captain is based
At this point I'm just gonna spec out of Noble Order on the master trait tree and go all in on Diamond Cutter and put the Warpath sigil back on cause trying to juggle the fucking Noble Order buff is a pain in the ass while Diamond Cutter is basically permanent and you can avoid getting hit as long as you play it a bit slower instead of trying to headbutt the boss non-stop. Better to take a bit longer and never go down than to clear fast but eat up the fucking Critical gauge bleeding on the floor like all these other retards do.
>>5739759833/4
can I get a SLIME LOBBY please
>>573976021I went all in on her Paradigm Shift branch. I got One Cut, One Kill to lvl 2. I don't have much interest in Devoted to Devotion. I just like style switching and getting even more buffs for doing them.
wait i'm not supposed to fully charge flowery seven?
Who should I run as my 3rd party member? Right now I have Cog, Sieg and Song, but song is doing fuck all in most fights
Fellow wagies what are you using to remotely control your pc while afk farming? I don't want to use cheat engine.
>>573976442I think the difference is kind of minimal if you aren't using the f7 tree. It does do a ton more dmg if you charge it, but you have to charge it instead of a SGV. I'd focus on landing it, and if you can land it 100% then charge it.
>>573973660Whats the build then? if you have it do you mind sharing?
>dodge the red and block the yellow bro which red? which yellow? these effects are way too fucking much and I can't even see Beel's model when I inevitably get grabbed by SOME kind of attackdid nobody playtest this and think "wow literally everything in this arena is just pure visual noise"
>>573975208>What's changed with her, what mastery is currently working best and do I need to change up anything from my old build?all three of her builds are pretty good>carpel tunnel normal attack build focused on spamming her stance finishers>skill nuke build that only lets you use skills at 6 butterflies, but you chain them together and you gain butterflies faster>support build that gives you a huge defense shredding debuff (10%, stacks up to 50%) and boosts your taunt to give you several buffs such as mirror image, damage cap, and supplemental damageyou get the first perk effect for every single tree, so by default neechang has all of the following bonuses regardless of which build you do>Perfectly timing basic attack after a finisher lets you continue your combo without stance switching>+1-3 extra butterflies anytime you gain butterflies>Utter Devotion's taunt effect lasts longer, and now provides Mirror Image
>>573971213Eustace/Song are probably the best two.Eustace gap closes with his autos and cross map teleports back to the boss if he gets lost if you run the counter.Song has the longest range I think? Io was kind of disappointing when I tried and eugen works perfectly as AI already.
>>573976639Isn't it the other way around?
>>573970225I think they changed the AI to no longer facetank when they have stoutheart, but it's probably worth testing.
>>573976691It is. Anon is just retarded.
When can I start unlocking characters without it being a waste of mats
eustace is just funslop. don't even bother trying to argue it
>>573976838>waste of matsExplain
>>573976838Chaos++
>>573972905>GarrisonStronghold
>>573976940when do they stop leveling up from game progress, i mean
>>573976691>>573976761explain how I sometimes perfect dodge red streaks? is there a specific color coded attack that looks different from the rest of the red and yellow blurs?this fight is just incomprehensible and WoW coded and I hate it. just outgear the fight and slog through.
>>573977126No clue, I've done it before too. But if you try to Block the yellow ones you get fucked. So clearly Yellow is for Dodge and Red is for Block. I assume its cause Improved Dodge is just too good and that's why it works against red too.
>>573976838Characters come at 100+M20 in Chaos++ if you save all your recruits for then.
I just stunmaxxed myself and the AI squad and holy shit, what a huge difference. I'm doing the last quests in chaos+ for the first time I'm knocking them down left and right and dunking on them with Link Time>SBA>Link Time. I used to just let my AI do the SBA whenever, can't believe what a noob I am.
>>573977258ohwell I guess ill just do it at Chaos thenseems kinda lame
>Finally unlocking m50 stuffHoly shit these boosts.
>Time to resume casting +300%I meanyea ill take it
>>573976668Support build sounds like it could outperform the other builds if the buffs do more than the others.I'll have to relearn how to play this game though, right now I'm just wiping like any other Naru player but at least I'm still doing the most damage so meh.
>>573976839press X to dopamine kinda guy, tons of fun
>>573975941idk what your overmastery path is, but you definitely don't need that much quick cooldown. Get more Uplift. Get Nimble Onslaught. Ultramarine's Adversity is useless unless you're a god gamer. What summons do you use? If you can, get a summon with war elemental just as a general good summon (but get normal damage cap up/skill damage cap up as the equip skill). Do you have a wright stone? You have 85 damage cap when it only goes up to level 60. You only have level 15 supp damage when it goes up to level 45. idk where your regen and divergence comes from (summons?) but neither of those are particularly important for bea. You could use drain, but I'd suggest that as a sigil/wright stone trait. You could also try to sneak in guts if you can.
>>573975894POWER
>>573977110at Chaos+ i think is the highest. afaik the highest is Level100 with Lv20 Mastery
>>573977460Why does this feel kinda sped up?
Aside from Charlotta which other dps focused characters have good survivability?
>grab the parser>see a fucking vas doing 3x as much damage as other peoplewhy the fuck are people saying vas is low tier
>>573977110No characters go above level 60. You can minmix Mastery by waiting until Chaos++, but it's not worth it. That is literally like the end-endgame, probably 100 hours from where you are right now. Just play the characters and grind the one that you enjoy.
>>573976398Holy shit Paradigm Shift just changes everything since I don't need to fucking charge the fucking zone attack anymore unless it's a mobbing phase or some shit.Pink bros we eating good.
Slimepede seems pretty bad when you just get into Maniacis there a trick I dont know??
>>573977650>why the fuck are people saying X or Y is bad in a game with rampant parsing and a training dummy?Do not, I repeat, DO NOT take anything about tier seriously. This is MonHun where a bunch of mindless drones see a build online doing the big deeps and then triple carting on their first try in a real quest.
>>573977736go online
>>573977858not really an option
>>573977650People who pick niche characters, 4 out 5 are 10 times more sweatier than your average player. You are not seeing a good character, you are seeing someone who is trying hard.
>>573977736The original slimepede is a bit of a boring fuckfest, it has a "hidden" mechanic where a big dick slime may or may not appear, giving you a truckload of shite if you manage to kill it in time.Vyrn will usually lose his shit when one appears.Do take note that to make it as painless as possible, people used to run it with auto click Rackams and Eugen.
>>573977736rackam and oigen
>>573977883that's the trick, to go online since it's way more efficientif you can't then just cheat engine the stuff in instead I guess
>>573977545>3.79mbBecause it is.The t4 shots are way to close together
>>573977984>>573977893I dont think either have ever been in my partyoof, this is gonna be a grind and a half
>>573977545>>573978028looks fine to me if I look at the in-game timer
I DO NOT CARESTOP ASKING
>>573977891>No bro the character isn't good, trust me the numbers lie when it fits my narrative
>versa's Infinity mechanic is fighting with your life on the line for that 200% supp damage buff and if you slip up you explode taking the whole party with you
What characters/builds are functionally immortal and can facetank shit?
>>573978451It would have been challenging if it did 500k dmg and not 50k when it explodes
>Keep wiping in DarkRapture>Fuck it decide to just put on full assist mode because im tired after 5 failed runs.>This was the best group i've had yet and im sure I didnt need assist most at all for it.It honestly feels like cheating. It just dodges everything holy fuck.
>>573978624Full assist works in MP?
>>573978663Everywhere except infinity
>>573978663Yes. The AI dodges like a god but they don't fight very efficiently.
>Io's terminus weapon doesn't have Quick Charge as swappable trait>Forced to use Guard Payback insteadFUUUUUUUUUUUCK
For Maglielle combos do you just do the tornado if the boss isn't moving and the other two when it's jumping around?
>hey danchou i noticed that Maniac Quakadille took 6 minutes here's conflux because you suck ass
Testing some AI, insight sandalphon at rank 3 does try to actually zohar strike just as limitless light is about to expire so that he gets the 50% gauge refund. But the idiot also cuts it real close so I'm not sure if he misses sometimes. Essence Sandalphon will ALWAYS wait until he has lucent refuge 3 before transforming even if he has a maxed out gauge, so talviyo is useless for him. Lastly crux sandalphon plays the same as normal, which is funny because he will instantly cash out his bell of war stacks during link time by zohar strike spamming instead of letting it rock.You guys notice any notable AI behavior changes for other characters?
>>573977768I mean Fediel is actually easy and broken though.
>retards cant do stance swap>completely remove stance swapping for two of the three masteries
>>573979157shes an outlier and its why people are complaining about her needing a nerf which she does but it doesn't really bother me since I just play with friends anyway
>>573978836Yeah watching it play my character was a bit painful.But also watching it dodge everything flawlessly was great.
Behemoth won't give me stout heart and I hate this fucker
>>573979157So what? Fediel being absurdly broken doesn't automatically mean Vase is absurdly weak
>>573979496i got one from skelly mission after hexa
>ATK buffs don't work during OverdriveMy buffslut Cagliostro just fell down on his knees in Walmart...
>>573979496I've been trying since it was first posted.Swapped to dragons after a little bit, and have since had FOUR(FEOWER) war elementals drop.Desire sensor HATE
>>573979704atk buffs bypass cap?
Essence Maggie is so fun, seeing all of her skills come off cooldown every 15 seconds or so is very nice. My only gripe is if you're fighting a boss that moves around a ton and you whiff the last hit of Blade Dance IV you don't get the cooldown cut and suddenly she feels really awful to play.It's worth it though to get to spam the HAMMER OF THUNDER multiple times per minute.
>>573979785Yes, and Def down also, however they don't work during Overdrive. Some people think this is just a bug since bosses are in OD 90% of the time.
If Fediel was doing the same damage but hard to play it would be fine. The problem is that Fediel is doing some of the best damage in the game and it's being done in a way that is completely retard proof since you're just throwing balls there isn't even real positioning involved. It needs to be gutted the same way they gutted Sandalspam.
What characters are the best for farming the Chaos+ slime quest?
Any advice for my sigils and what I should be looking for to build my main character upSame for my summon.I got a Bubs with Spartan and 40% SBA cap which seems great.Also just got a Luci with Alpha+20% Stun that I think is worth it.Other two are just both 40% Attack Cap up stat sticks.
>>573979943Someone ranged like always.
>control, damage with a white sigil+x303,095>damage without it298,519, a 1.5% decrease roughly>damage with replacing it with Dodge Payback and proccing the 15s duration ATK% buff322,526, a 6.4% DMG increase while it's up compared to control
>>573979704>>573979853From base game, Overdrive had damage reduction & damage cap down, does it really disable buffs & shreds?
>>573979236The issue with Dawnfly Stance is the fucking charge attack that you have to cancel out of half the time anyway.
https://x.com/relink_official/status/2076865009339215977>The Princess Connect! Re:Dive team presents Maglielle and Kyoka, a precious pair of passionate pancake lovers! >Yep, these two are gonna get along juuust fine.
>>573979987Yes. You can test it yourself on an OD boss by hitting it first without a buff, then applying a buff and seeing if your damage changed. This bug isn't present in the training room.
>>573979986decent sidegrade for nimble onslaught rather than a white sigil, I suppose
>doing the 4th conflux>just heard this gong/bell sound that I've heard a bunch of fucking times when I was playing WitchfireDude what my fucking PTSD from having a Calamity trigger at the most inopportune timeFucking stock SFX
>>573979743dragons can get war elemental summon?
>>573972142If it's an Id player (like me), then he gets animation locked when he's transforming between his different forms, and the dragon transformation is long enough that you WILL miss out on the link attack window, it really needs to be fixed.
>>573980236yeaall have been ice so far
Ok maybe Fediel is a bit too strongShe can attack from almost anywhere, she shits out damage, she is stupidly safe with iframes and mirror images, she's a turbo SBA generator, she can support with buffs/debuffs, and most importantly she's really fun to play and cuteYou're already top tier with 3 or 4 of these but she has it all
>>573980446Anon how you could you forget her absolutely massive Stun
>>573980534True how can I miss that, it's so massive
>>573980446Yes she is easily the best character in the game. She does everything, has basically 100% DPS uptime, and is incredibly safe while doing it.
>>573973771Narm, Sandy and Song eat the gauge far more in my experience.
>>573980446Yes her balls are too strong. They need to take away her finisher cancels.
just tried lancelot as AI with fully ascended ascension weapon and a good build, he does less damage than base game eugen>>573980296id bros.., that happens to me sometimes too
>>573979126Another easy change to notice is tweyen. Clinching Victory 1 will make her always wait until enhanced clincher has max stacks before using clincher and two-crown's master 2 will make her wait until max stacks as well to use two-crown's strife
>>573975237Only with Rackam.
>>573980762Would be really sad if they go away since the ball cancels are actually very fun to doI'd rather they just tune down the damage
Is Zeta's AI bad now?
>click the 6* uncap treasure box>6 rows of itemsdamn they do not want you in basegame lmao
>>573979126What do you think is the best? I've been running with insight but I havent tried essence
>>573980845Shut up and stand on the floor like everybody else (Zeta can stay up)
I was just fighting magliele using Sieg and did his finisher while she had some swords in the air and he hit them all, he got stuck doing his finisher, multi-hitting something in the air. Then it happened again, but the finisher hits kept multi-hitting two different swords and when I landed on magli she fucking died instantly. One of the guys kept spamming stickers wondering what the fuck happened, they might think I'm hacking but im not, what the FUCK just happened.
>>573980856Only if you try to make it play loop master. It's good if you are using skills.
JP autismo just posted a guide on the best afk farm for MSP, it's chaos++ luci (because you can exchange the flowers and not cap out while afk easily). You need some already built teammates though, but if you set it up right it can clear the fight in 3 minutes (on the timer, not actual time).
Soooo uhhhAm I really just farming this four dragons if the apocalypse quest?Overall best map and two summon rolls a go, yeah?
>streamer's title is: helping with infinity>look inside>fedielfaggot, you are robbing others of enjoyment to satisfy your own ego
>>573981013yeah, you can try skelly too but the slow is cancermake sure you're fighting the 4 dragons after hexa since there are 2 different fights in the same tier
>>573980946I mean the 5 balls in the air aren't going away, they'll just come out a lot slower meaning she'll be staying in the air even longer
>>573980845No they have to since it takes away all the issues. No cancels means no retarded damage, iframes, SBA gen, stun. And it really isn't the most fun way to play anyway.
>>573981130absolutely no one knows what changes if any they'll make to her, everything speculated is just cope
in cornflux what's the purple icon next to the aura name mean?
any good place to farm quick charge v+ sigils? they dont exist anymore from siero
>>573981035Will all these Fediel players drop the game after her nerfs?
>>573980052still amazes me how bad they fucked up princess connect global and now we're never getting it back.
>>573981196Id assume its a way to track if you already (or not) got it once
The best Siegfried player I know is struggling with the easiest Infinite with bots. This character is dead, man.
sheeplink fucking when
>>573981106>slowThe poison gives you 100% damage cap at least.Does potent greens remove all debuffs, or just one?Might be worth running if it removes slow before poison.
What do the Nips think of all the new characters outside of Fediel in Ragnarok? Do they have a favorite?
>>573981171It's literally her entire mastery. Have they ever made significant changes to kits? Usually it's just number tuning
>>573981273I was wondering if there's a way to tell me that
>>573981196Pink means that either you don't have it in collection yet, or your haven't upgraded it before.
>>573981203Proud Pieta was always the to go quickcharge boss. Not sure if theres a better option on ER
>Saw a Seofon doing pretty good damage.>Decide to steal his build>Has a sigil i have never seenWhat the fuck is Immortal Shell, it doesn't even show up in the filters.
Neechang...Forgotten...
>>573981442The fucking crab sigil lel
>>573981442New crab sigil
>>573981442It's the dark wee pincer sigil. There's a few more dark wee pincer sigils but idk their naems and what they do thoughAlso>saw a seofon doing the SBA charge meme skill in infinite faasmug man is too good
>>573981354at lvl 15, it removes 1 debuff per use i'm pretty sureI eat shit in bubs/lucilus all the time and i have to use multiple pots
Are these guys overcapping?I feel like they put their attack stat too high. Like I saw someone with 300k attack and it doesn't feel optimal.
>>573980940I'm not sure yet, probably essence. I was using insight as well while I was farming but the fact he tries to pop zohar strike as soon as limitless light is about to fade actually cuts his time in archangel by a lot. The buff normally runs out roughly halfway through archangel form which should even out the uptime but since the form can be extended by link attacks I think it still means you lose out on archangel uptime. Crux being normal sandalphon AI isn't bad just that I don't think it offers very good benefits. Essence then should be the best, telviyo being useless means you can slot something else in, and the buffs are better than limitless light plus with all the buffs people are now adding to their parties hitting the rank 3 bonus is pretty consistent. The big issue is that he's forced to wait until he hits 6 combo finishers, which with archangel gauge charge rate translates to 1-2 extra combos/damage skills/link attacks. Its not too bad in the training room but I think I need to bring him on more real scenarios to see if thats actually gonna harm him a lot.
>>573981545They're gaming the backup list.That, or running a dot
>>573981370Yeah but people are speculating the devs are going to gut her hard which might not even happen. It is the launch week and the fights are like proto bahamut tier in difficulty. In another week or so people are going to have everything on farm with just AI and watching youtube on a 2nd monitor while they play half attention.
>>573981545Massively overcaping. I think 90k will cap almost every character except their SBA.
>nips all using Golden Clock Bea>Random stream I came across using Golden Clock BeaI guess that's far and away her best one huh? Does it make her even more tanky than she already is?
>>573981165I personally think it's the most fun way to play, being tied to the pool of goop with miasma claws isn't fun when bosses zoom around everyhwereAlso iframes is unrelated to the ball lobbing cancels
>bea master traits>devouring COCK>on the COCK
>>573981583>They're gaming the backup list.High stats to hit the top of the list right? That's okay but at this point, the character has "low damage" at endgame.>>573981597Exactly, it's just attention list
Just had the dumbest party I have ever witnessedto think we were only farming dragons, poor fuckersThe cag got SBA first, holy fug
>>573981545People are padding out their attack and HP so they show up with higher power in character borrows
>>573981214I'll still play her after the nerf because I like her, unless she gets nerfed so hard she becomes a liability to the teamAlso why I'm farming up for other characters with her while I can
>>573981763sba cag spamming debuffs and with lv45 uplift is her only strength nowadays
>>573981214If she's as good as like, eugen, sureif she's as good as tweyen, probably not, I don't like feeling like dead weight
>>573981670It's basically stout heart.
>sigil booster>doesn't boost any of the good sigils past their lv.15 cap
What's up with this general and all the bea playersShe's very over-represented considering how lackluster she is
>fucking around with percival's molten edge build>check the barrel dummy after accidentally deleting like 15% off of one of the earlier chaos bossesholy hell is this what having damage feels like?
I've been farming this dragon quest for a few hoursAre you guys SURE they can give a good skill? It's been all shit, I mean they give damage cap which is ofc cool but the upper skill is always flat atk, hp, or like sand resist
>>573979827dodge to delay her blade dance, helps when i see a boss moving around
Is Uplift worth slotting on Maglielle? I noticed she gets to SBA faster than most, but idk if its worth building into that or should I just prioritize personal damage more?
>>573981670Golden DPS mode has 30% damage reduction, stout heart, debuff immunity, and regen+drain. im not at infinity yet but i hear there's a lot of debilitating debuffs so I started practicing clock switching earlier today. Also all your DPS is on her combo->power finishers which can track your target across half the map so it's extremely unga bunga. Also dodging doesn't interrupt combo finishers unlike if you were going all in on her nuke skill or something.
>>573982136We have a critical shortage of SBA spammers nowadays despite fediel being a thing. I think uplift lv45 for characters that generate fast SBA is great if you ever play online.
>>573982003idgaf who she's popular with. She's my unga bunga homie since 2016 dark team with Hirano Aya shouting chuuni skill lines with huge tits and some of the best erodoujins in the series.
>>573982227Yeah I've seen a few Maglielles in pubs who did the single SSBA->chain with everyone stuff. It's really quite useful to get that moment of reprieve so it just depends on if that's how you want to support the team or not.
>>573982003She cute & sexy
>>573981670golden bea is proof that people don't actually want to do the clock mechanic lol
>>573982069post the screenshot by viewing from the quest list
is it just me or are most summons actually just losing damage when using them?
>>573982494? Whatthe quest is called Four dragons of the apocalypse, do I really need to screenshot it I just closed the game
>>573982495Lucilius and albacore shit out damage. Managarmr is amazing because it freezes for like 5 seconds at the end of its summon. Rolan is great for utility with his 3-4 vane bubbles per cast, but his dmg is just okay. The rest of the summons I found to be kinda mid
do people run firm stance for beelzebub? i keep getting pushed off and losing max hp
>>573979827I think they should have let us lock onto the boss while shooting so that the swords would track at the end better without having to guesswork it
the games kinda funneling me towards awakening my ascension weapon, is that the right play? i heard it was shit compared to stinger
>>573982549I wish I could farm a good albacore, it's such a pain to even find it let alone roll a good one
>>573982596Very often yes. Sometimes for The World too. And potent greens for lucilius and hexa.
hey I just beat the game and unlocked a ton of shitit said the conflux 5 has new rewards, do you guys know what they are?
Can some anon teach me they ways of Bea? How does her clock work?
Just got Mag, should you be using skills during Link time or should you just hold Blade Dance?
>>573982131>>573982227>>573982368Thanks for the input anons, I got a War Elemental with Uplift earlier so it's good to know that building around it is viable. I was originally using cooldown cut sigils but apparently Bladequeen's Serenade and Cascade barely do anything, and Essence doesn't need them anyways. So I got a few slots to spare.
>>573982612>awakening my ascension weapon, is that the right play?Yes.
>Is unga and denies itCharlotta players>is unga and admits itGallanza players>is NOT unga but insists that they areBeatrix players
>>573982607I can't count the amount of times I instinctively pressed lock-on during Blade Dance only to realize that the game disables it during the move
>>573982901Charlotta players never denied it.
>>573982760Hold it, I would only bother using spear or pistol at the start for more damage but for the most part hold it down
There is a mod now to show dmg cap % instead of actual dmg outside of training. This is the next best thing to a mod that removes or makes dmg numbers smaller so you get less puke all over your screen.
>>573983040Is there a mod for the latter yet
I unlocked Ascension trannyscendance, I assume I should switch from defender to that? At what level of ascension trans?
>>573983067There was, but it's not updated yet so it doesn't work.
>>573983067>Io will never again know if her SG is actually hitting the boss
>>573982901The only thing I will deny is that we are less unga than Fedi.
>>573982718just go insight golden bea and ignore the clock mechanic
>>573982760summon gun if available then hold blade dance
>>573983191You're the same unga and you know it, just not as effective unga since you don't have projectiles. I say that as a former charlotta main.
>>573983092Can't you just compare the numbers between the two and see which ones better?
>>573983242There is no such thing as a former charlotta main
>>573983067I use this, but it puts some of the new characters gauge UIs in the middle of the screen. It works still somehow.https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/114?tab=files&file_id=448
>>573980841Testing Id now. Faith in dragonform was originally my thought for most interesting but that was wrong. I was going to say Id is now alternating between using skills and doing a full combo instead of dumping his skills off cooldown like everyone else but no apparently thats just how normal Id acts. He also tries to do the light blast finisher at ~12% of the bar remaining so he's not playing optimally but it does match how he acts in godmight. So basically Insight and essence play the same and all the gauge bonuses means that at worst he's out of dragonform/godsmight for 1-2 combos so also fairly consistent Of all things Crux/Vengeance turned out to be the outlier. He'll still do his normal stuff and rush to godmight like the others. However, once he gets there he will spam full charge four-fold vengeances unless something interrupts him and forces it to go on cooldown. Combined with the rank 3 bonus freezing the godsmight gauge while he charges, he can actually stall out long enough for ragnarok to cooldown and be in godsmight form forever. Granted there's still the issue of healing back the self-damage but thats a different issue.
>>573983321so its fine as long as you don't have a new gauge?
How do i get gold dalia badge?
what's the route to beef up a new character from scratch? spam conflux 4 then 5?
I wish effects intensity setting applied to player characters AND bosses 99% of my confusion regarding boss mechanics is purely from not being able to tell wtf is going on
How do you get this?
Anyone tried out AI Io with insight?>>573983375Yep
Is Bea actually the worst of the new characters or not?
>>573983379Do daily random pug quests and then despair at the fact that everything from gold badges cost way too much for what they provide.
>>573983403Yes and chaos+ slime for msp
>>573983262I assume that makes it better is the superior skills and not necessary the raw stats and skills are harder to eyeball
once a box, always a box
>>573983415This game always had a horrendous visibility problem and they really didn't do anything to address it
>>573981670Unless you have stout heart somewhere in your build, there is just no reason to not use yellow clock, I do switch to red during link burst or break, and the amount of times I have found myself in green where... Mostly due to me flubbing up my shit more than actually wanting to be in green.Just no reason to not be in that mode man.
>>573983561working as intended, how else are you going to have a harder time dodging shit unless everyone is spamming attacks all over the boss?
>>573982003Don't give a fuck about Eustace.Fraux is a literal dyke.Magi is cute but not to my play style.Gallanza is unga bunga too but I rather use a cute girl.Fediel is literally broken Pretty easy choice.
>>573983460Guess i cheat
>>573983458no, mag has lower damage. also idk about gallanza
Trans ascended better than trans terminus?
>>573983889no
I kinda want to build one of the ranged characters to use for AFK farming but I also kind of don't care enough. Such is my dilemma.
>>573983327>However, once he gets there he will spam full charge four-fold vengeances unless something interrupts him and forces it to go on cooldown. What do you mean? Like the AI will hold Vengeance if the enemy is out of range?>he can actually stall out long enough for ragnarok to cooldown and be in godsmight form foreverLv50 traits gives cooldown reset whenever Id leaves Godmight, so the typical cycle becomes:Ragnarok Form > enter Godmight > Vengeance > Leave Godmight if on cooldown > Ragnarok Form (because of the CD reset)>there's still the issue of healing back the self-damageIgnition gives Drain while in Godmight. A full charge hit gives ~30k HP (without additional Drain, base Healing Cap), enough to cover any HP lost and some more.
How many HP do you need for infinity
>>573982612ascension shits on all of the other weaponsyour endgame is to either use ascension or terminus
>>573981442>10% crit rate>10% damage>0.5% health recovery over time>1% drain>5% cap>2% defense>5% supp damage (not a chance to do supp damage)>2% damage dealtDoesn't seem worth it just for the cap, supp and damage dealt.
>>573984239>5% supp damageThat is unironically pretty huge, no?
What do the other dark wee crab sigils do other than immortal shell?
>>573984305Probably, but you can't have any other traits on that sigil so what can you even get rid of to use it?
>>573984305Yeah if it didn't take 2 slots it would be good. If you could get it on a summon like stout heart it would be great.
>>573984408I'm pretty sure you can have it on a summon. I'm using Crabvestment Returns (+20 HP, 10% DMG Cut) at the moment.
>>573984239how many crabs do you gotta murk for that?
They should add a sigil that boosts your stats based on the number of unique crab sigils you have in your build.I want to try a crab build just for shit and giggle.
Do we have a table for what skill drops from what summon yet?
>>573983972200K is enough, pray for attack down from your teammates if you're getting hit by a actual attack
>>573984825>exactly 200kIs this some sigil that caps hp?
>5% more supp dmg>+2% flat damageThis is worth 2 sigil slots, does anyone have it and can show some damage number testingw ith it?
>>573984963no I managed to get exactly 200K on maggy somehow, my setup is right here>>573966268
>>573985041where is this from? i don't see any pincers
For Luci's double sword swing am I supposed to just constantly fuck it up until I eventually figure it out? This shit feels completely random.
the age of consent is 6000
anyone got the patreon version of the CE table?
>try out the fun mastery styles with gimmicks>inevitably do less damage than people using the "basic" stylesman parsing was a mistake
>>573985589Have you tried doing a aerial combo to completely avoid it
>>573985589do you mean the big double swing where he slams the swords and then swipes?there's a massive clear spot right next to him
>>57398461320 dark crabs
I want to try a support character, but I know next to nothing about them or how do they work, do you guys have a recommendation?I know I can't be some kind of MMO healslut, but I'd like to play a character that make you feel their presence when they're on the team.
>>573984825I can only get 130k right now unless I sacrifice some damage cap, and I can't remove uplift since my main is slow, guess I'll have to take the support pill
>>573982003She's hot, fun unga bunga gameplay and I love her VA's shouting too much.
>>573983949I actually had to re-test this and found theres a difference between reactions from AI id and full auto assist Id. Was using full auto previously to have an easier time tracking gauges and in that mode once Id reached godsmight he would just keep using fully charged four fold vengeance as long as sir barrold was in aggro range. Meanwhile as an AI party member ID would follow up each fully charged four fold vengeance with the sword flurry combo so he can't actually stall enough for infinite godsmight and he'll follow the cycle you listed. And yeah I forgot to give him sigils but ignition does give him enough HP drain to regain it all. I'll admit my bad there, I didn't notice any differences when testing sandalphon on AI and full auto so I thought Id would be the same
>>573985589when he slam, dodgeif you failed but didn't get stun, wait for the big shiny thing and dodgeIf you got stun, just spam dodge
>>573985726Zeta seems like the only character where her default normal style is now the worst one. Since they expect you to be looping forever when we have shit like Luci teleporting 3 feet away every 5 seconds.
>fraux NPC does infinite fuck you damage>if i play fraux i do mid damage
>>573985726Look brother, as long as you pull your weight and don't spend the whole quest licking the floor, I don't care what you bring, so go ahead and have fun with some funky builds.
>>573982003i just think she looks pretty
>>573982003I've been a fan since I first saw her tied to that pole
It's dumb we have a bunch of new bosses where everything is clearly telegraphed. But then we still have Lucilius who is just doing shit like I flashed a spot on the side of the stage for .1 seconds 3 seconds ago to show where the laser is.
The most painful thing about leveling up Ghandagoza is knowing that it's purely a labor of love, because he's an absolute dogshit AI NPC partner.
>>573985959Yeah I was wondering how you were able to track gauge percentages and stuff. Thanks dude, we appreciate any info we can get.
>>573985827I recommend support maggy or cag. Build for lv45 uplift to spam SBAs and take things like shielding and buffs and invulnerable for maggy. You'll be a huge presence in any run
I just saw a Ferry!
>>573986446At least the AI knows what to do in Link Time now
Finally summons with mandatory traits, and its freeing my sigil economy and I think i might finally see the vision.
>barely beat infinity versa with my shitty AI teamI had like 15 seconds left lmao
>>573986564Versa AI is the fucking worst because they want to spend the entire fight killing Id over and over.
>>573986428Is this the Paradise Lost lasers? I have zero trouble with them after the first 5 times. It's not that hard to look up on your screen while your character moves at the bottom. Play some 2hu
Can Sieg's AI handle his masteries?Trying to build an AI team for some solo grind, but I'm not sure how it perform with those janky ass talents
>the siete mastery with infinito creare spam is extremely fun>really awkward outside of link timefug does this get better at ml50also wew hearing the defense order song in the new slime quest made me miss the good times i had in grub back in the day
>>573986634Nta, I found it easy to get into in the original fight but the new one just covers the screen with so many random explosions inbetween I legit can't even see the edge of the arena at times
>>573985827Percival might be up your alley but he sucks compared to Cag. At the very least with WEEE I'M A SLEEED you click one of the most op team buffs in the game
Collapse spam Cog is so much fun bros, it's like Fediel but honest
>>573986564Who did you main and what AI used?
>>573987848>honest cag
>>573981670Golden clock isn't that fun desu>Have to dodge cancel each finisher and manually swap your clock to get all the buffs>Once your gold clock activates you usually have only 50-60% of your gauge left I beat all the infinity bosses with the extended devourer mode master trait which felt way more fun. Just get stout heart on a summon, stay in red-mode, and go to town. You can tank stuff without green/orange mode. The bigger problem is that infinity bosses apply max HP reduction debuffs and skill seals when you get hit, so you get fucked no matter what if you unga too hard.
>>573985959Looked at seofon next tested with both full auto and AI just to be safe. Insight has the fewest changes same as normal seofon behavior so summon avatar at max and avatar finish only if the gauge is about to deplete. Next is essence and for whatever reason he seems to hold off on using infinito creare outside of the avatar finisher combo from rank 3 or in link time where he will hold that button down to the end of time. Last is crux. As per the requirements of the path he'll summon/unsummon the avatar to try to do combo D, that is assuming he doesn't get distracted by link attacks, skills coming off c/d or running out avatar gauge. Then he'll just spam skills. For the guys who have a siete AI. Does crux siete's ghetto link time give him enough DPS to offset the fact that he's constantly doing the summon/unsummon animation outside of it? Is essence's infinito creare especially the link time super spam enough to compete with the 50% dmg dealt that an insight siete can potentially get?>>573986464I appreciate anyone cross-checking the stuff I post because I'm bound to miss stuff and I don't have everyone built/tested in real scenarios>>573986870Aren't his essence and insight styles just normal AI sieg behavior?
Tyranny still in vogue? I've seen most builds omit this altogether.
>>573987936Not a single build is struggling to hit dmg cap or berserker echo threshold anymore so no
>>573987936You get somuch free damage and crit you basically always cap
when did you start farming for sigils? I'm at maniac Wondering if I should aim for it
>>573985827pick any of the characters with a powerful buff or status effect if you're rather be more of a hybrid than a dedicated support like cag/mag/rose>vaneinvuln bubble is extremely noticeable>percivalpetrify status effect, ATK+DEF buff>siegfrieddefense buff, status effect immunity, and substitute if you build him for it>lancelotglaciate is a great status effect>katalinashe pretty much shits out party-wide invuln with like 80% uptime>yodarhamirror image gives the whole party 3 free get out of jail free cards for taking damage>seofonfree "fuck you, everyone gets full SBA now" button once per quest for shenanigans, slow status effect
>>573988096unless you've had completely abysmal sigil luck, you can reasonably avoid sigil farming until you hit proud mode
>・When dismissing an avatar while the Swordshine level isn't maxed out, the Swordshine level will now remain at that level.i feel like im dismissing the avatar and swordshine resets despite not being at maxdoes it reset early due to something else that i'm not aware of?
>>573987978>>573988014Got it, but how much damage cap is too much damage cap? Seems like there are equally just as many sources for it as well.
>>573988359Only way to know is to go to the dummy
Djeeta Cag or Rosetta for my next main? Playing half AI team with 1 other person
>>573988359Check the dummy but as you progress down each characters master levels and transcend the weapons you'll be hitting cap no matter what.
>>5739884041-3 jita4-6 cog7-9 jk0 ferry
extremely rare lobby
>>573988526the cog of legend
>>573988551>Gran
How do you build Maglielle? I ain't gonna lie I don't know what anything in those mastery trees mean
How do you build Tweyen? which skills and mastery to pick?
>>573988551what fight?
GOOD HEAVENS WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE TIME
>>573988774If you don't know what they mean you may not have played her enough to know what you're piloting. Learn her kit more and you'll find what playstyle sounds more fun.
immortal shell is bis, the atk% on it is a buff on you so it gives a lot of dmg even at just lv4, but esp at lv20
>>573989241Silva's wife is so hot
>>573989921>collect the crabsMaybe later.
what's beato's optimal link time rotation with delta clock active?I've been using her fastest animation skills (riding free, thunderbird) so I can get out more power finishers, don't know if this is correct but it feels right since I'm assuming embrasque sword isn't worth charging during link timein fact I'm considering dropping embrasque sword entirely for the projectile skill, it's kind of hard to get a full charge off without trading for taking a hit
>>573989921>single sigil slotbut my autism... what the fuck am i going to drop for it aaaaaaaaaaaa
Does the Chaos++ Luci fight not force you to do the labours? Or was it somehow skipped because I had three Feds in my room?
>>573990623Why do you have glowies in your relink?
>>573989829Top tier and optimal is fun so tell me what the best choice is
>>573982003She's a fan favorite in the og game because of how hard she gets bullied.
>>573986634I just perfect dodge the circles on the ground and let the invincibility from Nimble Defense do the rest.
>>573988097>3 free get out of jail free cards for taking damageIt stacks up to 5 if you can get it again fast enough
>>573991217you also pretty much get guaranteed 5 during link time
Why is there no quick quest option that's limited by difficulty
Someone give me a Eustace build pls.
>>573989921>base damage702,251>white sigil for +40% dmg cap714,697 >Immortal Shell Lv20 (all crabs collected)764,374You get +9% dmg from crab sigil, that's basically the same amount as going from ascension to terminus. But you also get>0.5% max hp regen every 3 seconds>1% lifesteal on DMG dealt>+2% defense
>>573991851can you skip the base game crabs and start on the blacks immediately?the original sigil didn't interest me
Noicehttps://x.com/i/status/2076772256374722684
>>573991937Fraux's legs aren't that thin...
>>573991920It doesn't look like it, my friends don't see any black crabs or the quest to get immortal shell sigil
Should I run 2 Betas on Fraux instead of a Beta and an Alpha? I need more damage for Dead Lands. Or should I just wait until I reach 40 in Mastery? Dead Lands is doing 250% damage right now, which is too high for my liking. It absolutely shreds, but I want more.
So does it matter at all what summons I farm?
>>573992004what a pain...a problem for later though I guess.
>>573992134Yeah. Different summons can have different traits
how do you actually dodge the luci laser spam at the start
>>573992781Look up
Is there really no range character, except for Fedi, that isn't dogshit?
>Masteries need ungodly amount of msp>transmarvel vouchers are sometimes rewarded on level up and are the only source for warpath+>slime blasting is actually the endgameGood slimeblasters?
>>573992885BEHOLD
>>573992781You gotta look at the diagram where Luci is, and dodge accordingly. Takes a while to get spacing and timing right.
>>573992885Compared to fediel everything is dogshit, she needs to get nerfed fast.
>>573992994I dunno man, isn't she hard to play optimally, and even then the damage is still mediocre? I mean there are 500mil showcases, but they're all dummy built with glass cannon and shield mastery.
>furycane was a completely fine fight>>goblin ads
>>573993060She might have ruined the game for me. Every character I touch past her just feels like shit, and it makes me not wanna build anything else.
>>573990623It has sword chasing and hit the ball labor, but the ball is only 1 time
>>573993139you said FUN an-on. If (you) want to be a spreadsheet/dpsfag then go play Feds-diel. Otherwise swallow your pride and play melee
So just to make sure, having a sigil that has 2 basic traits on it (stun power + stun power) doesn't count as 2 sigils for this. It has to be separate whole sigils, right?
I got a 100% normal damage cap up sigil from normal Chaos Lucilius
>>573993795yes
>Skill spam bea is just sieg except actually able to tank through stuff and not nearly as cucked by rangeniggers sitting at max distance all the timeI get it now
Anyone ripped the art from the stat screens and stuff yet?I love the Mastery arts a lot but can't seem to find them anywhere.
>>573992992eustace eugen rackam io
so how and who do i build as my AI companions
>maniac excavallion can you PLEASE FUCK OFF
>save game>transmarvel all my tickets>check if there is anything good>load>use just enough tickets to get the good stuffIt's that easy huh?
>>573994219Stay strong you're almost done
>>573994226Or just cheat to get more tickets and save yourself time.
I guess the other missions are already dead after I missed the first few days of the expansion h-haha
Another banger is on the horizon, grubbers.
>>573994695>AAA>hyper photorealism>UE5
>>573994695wasn't the reason this was being made to shill their inhouse engine and now it's unreal 5?
>>573994695It has no legs without the granblue coat of paint.
>>573994695crimson desert from temu
>>573994695>hyper-photorealism>open worldI will be skipping this one, grubbas
>>573994657I really don't get why we have no good random quest functionEspecially now that summons exist
>>573994695>hyper-photorealism>unreal engineI'd much prefer playing something on higher fps
Is there anywhere I can find builds people are using for characters that doesn't involve joining some cringe d*scord
>>573993589this shit unironically carries more than feds, you can save shitty teammates with dps
>>573994657I'm still getting matches pretty fast
What character sigils do I need for Charlotta? All three of them?
>find like 25 ambrosia in my inventory>>400k mastery pointsOUGH
>>573995218Gratz that like's 2 levels of over mastery.
>>573995218>one and a third leveluuuuuh
>>573995303context being im in maniac so its a nice quality of life
>>573994657you are switching your area to Any right?
>>573966268>only 88+ marks
>>573995396Yeah it's on any.
>>573995585So he doesn't go over the terminus hp cap I guess
>>573994991youtube
What the fuck
Where is my conjunction cygames
I'm heading into the conflux you guys want anything while I'm there.
>>573997087Bring me some proud Furicane anima please
>>573997087get me some good fish
>>573997087get me the men in red
>bubs infinite>my sba is 4th, delaying it a bit>he goes straight into los endos even though the SBA circle is only 60% of the way through>we dieSCAMMED
>>573993918>skill spam beaelaborate. how do I get started
>play Bea for several hours last night>laying in bed trying to sleep>can’t sleep since I hear her screaming in my head and see the power finisher flash when I close my eyesMistakes have been made.
I'm tired of playing narmayaGive me a fun character
>>573987936Terra is the new TyrannyLumen is the new Stamina
>>573998409Fraux is extremely similar to the X spam narmaya, if you want to play a different character which is kinda same but new then go for her, if not then avoid her
So what summons do we knos of that can roll stout heart?
>>573998409Beatrix
>>573992885People sleep on Eustace
>>573998531I've only seen Behemoth 3
>>573998617because he's shit and i don't want to spend half the fight plinking with normal ammo
Is this what NTR feels like?
>>573993795All the traits like this only count the face/name/first sigil effect
>>573998361DORYAAAAAA>>573998409collapse cog
>>573998691skill issue
are there any specific characters that help out Io's gameplay?
>>573999237yoda
Hey man can you guys help me, I just can't figure out whats different in this scene. I think one of these guys wore a red shirt
what do the icons mean here?current level of the weapon, and if this treasure will be useful for leveling up further then it's lit up?
>>573999462>songthe irony
>>573999464It means those characters have Defender/Stinger weapons which can be transcended
>>573999237Mag with Caduceus to scrape her body off the ground from a mile away when the she fucks up a dodge.
>>573999462it's the same starting scene every time, it can be the book on a box to your immediate left being open when it shouldn't, the cat being a different colour, the teacups on the table or the bucket at the bow's starboard
Hey kid!Wanna check out my spear?
>>573999668This cat? I guess he does look kinda different
>>573999749that's the usual cat so noyou can afford some failures so i'd try the other harder to spot differences
>he's not a solo hunter
>>573990481Star Chaser absolutely fucks on large bosses with multiple hitboxes.
>>573999694boring, forgettable woman like katarina and like how half the guys are forgettable generic handsome dudes
>>573999694She can't keep getting away with it
>Eustace who's only goal in life is sitting at max distance and then dying
>>573999817Hmm well I think this bucket and beer look the same as always
>>573999920Which special snowflake character do you main anon?
>Turn on option of aim for the nearest body part>Still target the aimed partWhat is this shit
>>573999823I can only solo some chaos++ bosses without party members
>>573999462The first time I somehow didn't notice Excavallion spawning in
>>573999462Just reload after you fail
>>573998641I hate that fight...
>>573998409Vane
>>574000712The summon also drops from the chaos++ skeleton fight
Song is absolutely terrible for full auto.She will push herself out of range. Incredible.
If I'm hitting like 93-102% on the dummy on the rare low hits, I would logically be capping in real quests because of Fatebreaker, right bros? Or does it already work on the dummy?
>>574000759Fuck that fight too, and the shitty stats you get with his summon
wtf master level 50 is an insane grind
>>574001097Fatebreaker doesnt work on the dummy, but fatebreaker DOES increase your attack as well as your capSo if you hit 93% on the dummy, you'll hit 93% in a fatebreaker quest too. But your actual numeric damage value will be higher
>>573998531I got it on this fuckerI'll probably want a better one at some point but it gets the job done
>>574001097Correct, you will definitely cap in quest with fatebreaker. +50% attack is a huge amount. You can try equipping Stamina 40% ATK to see how much you'd overcap by.>>574001209+50% ATK is worth about as much as +500% DMG cap
>>574000759I hate thar fight as well
>>574001098>and the shitty stats you get with his summonBack to the mines until you hit 50% Cap
>>574000308coggy
>>574001209That's not how math works broIf you already have a fuckton of cap of course you do and no attack buff of course you don't that's gonna put you way over the cap
do summon's sigils still apply to you even in multiplayer if you're not the host?
>>574001545Yes
>>574001281>>574001531doesnt this mean you can be capped by hitting for like 50% on the dummy?
>>574001578your own summon's sigils don't get overwritten by the hosts?
>>574001603no you absolute beabrain
>>574001730No, that'd be silly.
>>573994905grub dev so slow, nigs will call out their games like copies despite being developed first like relink "copying" the bahamut scene from 16
>>574001756>hit for 50% on the dummy>enter fatebreaker quest>damage cap goes up but attack goes up way more>hit the boss for say 105%
>>574001825Grub devs so slow it took them 8 years to implement half the QOL changes of a plugin they banned
>>574001209>Fatebreaker doesnt work on the dummyChange the dummy's HP to chaos++. Can confirm I am way more over the cap with fatebreaker
>>574001924Cute Bea
>>574001924Whats 50% of 50%?
>>574002101Easy, 50 + 50 = 100%!
>>574002009what the fuck I didn't even know that was a thing this 50% atk is so huge too
>>574002101About tree fiddy>>574002227That was like the first thing I checked after getting Fatebreaker
>>573998409unironically play Io and spam SGV and Max F7.
>>573998617only females want this dogbutt loving dogfucker
Should I be charging my attacks and finishers as Tweyen or just mash into power finisher?
>8th attempt to get 0 chaos++ title (no death no item usage) and still counting>fucking finally i stop choking>somehow dies during the end final phase because i can't see shit when everyone SBAsplease don't tell me AI also uses items too when i'm not looking to fuck my runs
the requirements said 90 gigswhy is this game 130 gigs nowits not like I cant fit it but jesus christ
Lobby00US9HCP8R3ABKYKI intend to repeat four dragons for Centrums and MSP but up for whatever really.
>>574002429Of course they do
>>574000272try going to the boxes, maybe the slime changed
>pick up blue orbs in town>got a referee summon with gamma 15
>>574002506Yeah I'm down for some 4D. I'll have time for a few runs at least
>>574001924are you changing the dummy's difficulty?
>>5740026512/4few more minutes before going
>>574002429... you never noticed them literally feeding you potions?
I hate sigil system
>>573994695Project GAMM looks more interesting and since it's reusing the same engine/assets as Relink, it will probably come out first.
>>5740025063/4 running quests
>>574002429AI should not use items but I think these no death no items trophies get fucked if players use items so you need to do it with AI.
>>574002773you'll waste hours grinding anyway so why bother complaining in this korean basketweaving forum
>>574002760>>574003074i hear the sfx but i always thought its regen/divergence sfxin this run i finally noticed fuckers feeds me 2 pots despite i still have 60% hp and reinforce shield up, i might just pussymode abit and use FoF later
>devs promise build variety >there are even more mandatory dmg cap shit than before yeah sure you can offload some of that to summons but what are the chances of getting dmg cap sigil effect on summons on top of the dmg cap secondary effect on top of all that you have absolutely no control over summon traits since you can't really synthesize those the game has gone from "here are the dmg cap slots now let's puzzle piece the rest together" to "i don't have enough room for all the damage caps and i can't skip any because there are dps checks"
>>574002773Get the mod that lets you guarantee the sigil synthesis you want (+ optionally the always grand success one) and you'll hate it a bit less
>>574003365I mean there litwerally was no way around it bar reworking the entire thing. At least they had some good idea with the mastery. sure wish it wouldn't be locked behind slime grinding
>>574003365you don't need every source of damage cap. especially not for the dps checks
just bought relinkwhere the FUCK is vira?
>>573995585>>>only 88+ marks>>573995683>>573966268I did this in base game a few characters I had to take them down to 26 marks to reach the max amount of HP yet still have enough atk for bezerker echo. It was always 26 marks too.
>>574003061It's PvP though so it'll probably die in like 2 weeks. I also don't trust Takaki to make a game that's actually fun to play.
No one wants to do the homo dragon fights huhAlso why the fuck do they keep doing all these duo boss fights or shit with adds this is legitimately the least fun shit ever
>>574003537You're looking for versus my friend
The slime grind is gonna be so real in this game I have to level rackham next just so I have him ready to grind slimes.
>>574002541Hmm nope the bucket and vase still look the same
>>574003537I ate her.
>>574003627>fgc evo niggerslopPerhaps you didn't hear me the first time.I saidwhere the FUCK is vira?
>>574003624>what if you fought the same dragon but yellow?>what if you fought two at onceUnironically padding content. If you don't have enemy variety just make them fight more at once. Or a few in a row. Or paint one red
>>574003472which ones are optional? genuinely struggling to find the ones i can drop
>>573994971>no good random quest functionits called quick quest.I got in a ER quest through QQ yesterday, Ruby golem.>>573994657The way this works is it starts a new session, as in you are host so if 2 other people are looking they probably just joined or...if your session doesnt fill it then puts you in what is essentially a looking for that quest lobby where it puts everyone together.
>>574003568Is it really PvP? I thought it would be a character action game just like Relink.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMuX9r0RX8k
so do we have any semblance of a roadmap/promise of future updates?
>>574003824>a random quest out of literally all the quests in the gamethat's not a good functionto anybody but the retard that implemented it because they thought we need something like it and didn't get what player actually want it for
Where's best to farm vouchers? I think my biggest issue as someone that didn't put many hours in after launch month is that I just do not have the sigil variety expected for endgame builds.
>>574003730Like you said, the FLGBTQC, exactly where she belongs.
>>574003936What are you trying to say?Anon said no random quest function and there literally is.It now also includes some ER quests.Also QQ severely nerfs your shit so you arent just stomping over everything now, where before you could get put in a normal mission when you were already at end game.
>>574004038>just do not have the sigil variety expected for endgame builds.Go and farm the sigils then. Loot at the loot for the quests and farm what sigils you want.Sigil farming and selling teh trash is the best way to make vouchers too, plus you get some from the quest.You of course only want V+ sigils so proud and ER quests.
I swear I saw a tool tip mentioning something about there being an option to receive transmarvel tickets instead of the normal tickets when leveling up but it didn't mention where I could change that, did I hallucinate that or is it an actual thing?
Do you think they will add actual challenging end game quests? Like lucy/zero.I just completed hexe infinite and it really was just the same shit as chaos hexe bit for health and debuffs.It also froze in 1 quest and i had to abandon the quest..desu i think it was the chinese PC shitters.
which character sigils does eustance need?
>>574004258It's random. You'll just occasionally get them instead of the normal tickets.
>>574003672is this character any good? I wanted to build her for afk farming but wasn't sure if she was worth it
>>574004258You do receive transmarvel but it must be fucking inconsistent because I just get 3 KKVs most of the time then occasionally a full transmarvel.You can also but a transmarverl voucher in siero, Swap for gold skill books I think, which are useless of course after you get all characters to 100
>>574004079Why can't you look for multiple quests? Why can't you look for an entire difficulty bracket? Why can't you look for loot? Why is it either a single specific quest or literally any quest in the game and nothing inbetween? It's shit. Also why isn't downscaling a setting yet so I can play with friends when the option is literally in the game>>574004258It's just random what you get
I started playing this game and my friend told me to install like 20 different mods to basically cheat otherwise it's apparently unplayable. Nice game fags.
>>574004504>can't you look for loot?you can, wishlist items then search quest by loot.
>>574003702Oguri...
Okay I am clearly not prepared for chaos difficulty wtfHow can I improve my character further? I already have my terminus weapon maxed and idk how i could make my sigils betterhow are people doing millions each hit meanwhile I'm barely doing a 100k...
>>574003365i have every damage cap on my cog while still having max uplift/quick cooldown, sounds like a build skill issue on your end
Has anyone tried put every damage cap source sigil on and see if you are still hitting cap?
>>574004835I had no idea there was even a C rank
>>574004835Funnily enough do more chaos. The big 3 of war elemental spartan and berserker echo all drop in chaos, and the mats for your biggest power boost transcendent weapons
>>574004835You need to swap off your terminus weapon and ascend your defender weapon as much as possible
>>574004835>>574004882I was basically 5k below the recommended pwr lvl but I dont know how to really raise that so it figures
>>574004835Are you the eustace?If so you should be Ok but you have a maggy who is not even full mastery so that will fuck your team and the other 2 characters didnt even get their mastery up so expect they are complete noobs too.
>>574004835>>574005015My bad just noticed its CPU.You need to level and build the CPU too.
>>574004496I don't know yet, I'm doing conflux to gear her up as potentially my 4th. She's still the negative status effect queen so I'm seeing utility there, and i'm hoping the damage follows once she catches up to my other dudes. Pretty fun to play though
best place to farm spartan/berserker echo+?
>>574004980Doesn't the defender weapon only have, well, defensive traits?Stuff like regen garrison and resistances which won't really increase my damage at all.>>574005119I barely have enough resources to make my main guy playable, much less three others lol. But I know I should.
>>574005301When you ascend your defender weapon, you get a boost to damage and damage cap based on your health, up to 200k hpTrust me, just dump your ascension mats into the defender weapon and use it
>>574004551Your friend is a faggot. There's no need for mods now that they removed the region lock
>>574004551your friend is the fag.he actually thinks so little of you that you can't tolerate the game's natural progression curve and you're a little bitch baby that needs to be full power immediately.
This game could be so much better if they removed sigil and add weapon progression instead
>>574005350I see. I checked the mats but almost all of them are exclusively from chaos missions like the one I just did. It's gonna be a long and painful grind........
>>574003883That's what they said years ago when it was revealed. I assume that it's either going to be mainly a character action game like Anarchy Reigns, or some shit like Guilty Gear Overture where each player will mostly fight the other player's mooks.
>>574005158but that makes her effectively useless against someone like lucilius who cannot be poisoned or para'd at all
>>574005576Haven't you unlocked Conflux 3 yet? It should have materials to ascend your weapons to level 3.
>>574005301>I barely have enough resources to make my main guy playableThis is the grind. You go and get the resources.If you actually want to play the game, not get stomped on and kill things instead of trying to just get to end game ER DLC you need to actually grind.Firstly, you need to go and get 4x damage cap sigils for all of your AI.Use sigil synthesis and save scum but that also means you are gonna be in the bhamut mines for a while. 10-15 times to get all you need. Because.You need this damage cap not only to tackle ER but forever, in ER. They are mandatory sigils.Good thing is this will also unlock terminus for lots of the characters too.Then of course you have to level the sigils up to 15, but synthesis save scum should boost them too. Its RNG if they do or dont, but you can use conflux to get materials for upgrading sigils now, or do the quest/ themself.Then you need to uncap, level up and awaken every characters weapons, and get their weapon masteries. As well of course all their normal masteries (which maggy doesnt have clearly)Ideally you want actually levelled up sigils like tyranny and stamina but they are made obsolete in ER.You could also just soldier the first ER quests, dying for a while (or play online) until you get enough materials to make the transcended defender weapon for you AI, which will make all the grind in proud go faster.
>>573967297>narmaya being a shitter character was always a forced memeLOL
>>574005465They just added more weapon progression
Is 400k health overkill for Infinity?
>>574002506We're taking few mins break, still 3/4, anyone?
>>573967090WTF does the who tf are you tier even mean?
>>574006159It means you never see them
We have to hit 65k.
>>574005734I'll cross that bridge when I get there, as long as someone can eat atk down or defense down even if she can't burn, poison or paralyze them thats still a win in my book. I'm also not saying her regular damage is bad, just that I can't make a judgement yet since my other characters are already ML 50 with fully transcended gear so its hard to make a comparison
>>574006142Less hp and more def would be better I'd say. Easier to heal/regen/whatever too
i honestly forgot percival was even in this game.
>>574005006did you level up all your masteries including all weapon masteries?
>>574005906this is why i run Siegtank i'd rather eat the damage myself than waste time resetting a run because pubs failed to dodge shit
>>574006196I am a percy main, its all I have played in ER.Just got him maxxed now though so am gonna change and start ER from the beginning.Unfortunately because of the slime grind I "have to" choose racham next.I like rackham anyway, hes my 2nd most played character because of the grind, but not my 2nd fav character.I really wanted to play kat then id, my 2nd and 3rd favs.
>>574006280How can you forget one of the homoknights? Yeah I forgot about lanny too
>>574006241SO I assume, defender, max aegis and greater, full health sigilscrabby investments?
>>574006241for what purpose
>>574006593NTA I've got 544846 HP and thats with just max aegis, greater aegis 27, 4 defense sigils, and the health overmastery.
>>574003672That cat don't look right, I tell you hwat.
>>573986634>look upI have never looked up, I look down to see the lights on the ground then dodge accordingly.
how to become a ghandagoza CHAD?
Does "damage dealt" also go past the cap as a separate modifier?
There needs to be a conversion method for higher end mats to lower end. I've run out of the grand refinium Is and IIs and they only come from early ass chaos shit or conflux while im DROWNING in chaos++ refinium.
>>574007261In this case, yes.
the fate episodes in this game piss me off why did you lock 2 sigils behind this chatgpt summary bullshit
>>574007318>In this case,I hate that you out that before yes
>>574007037No, no we discussed it with the other anon that cat is usually there you must be misremembering. Maybe ask mechazawa. Hey wait, look I kinda just need to say it out now Mechazawa, danchou said to wear a white shirt today
>hexa is so much easier than faa and bubsWhat did they mean by this
>>574007261you cannot trust the wording on fucking ANYTHING, test it yourself before wasting a point.
>>574007612I wouldn't even know how to properly test it, 5% isn't exactly a lot and we hage big numbers with big variations. Is there a trick or do I just use basic atttack 1 twenty times?
>>574006593
>>574005301You only need master 30 to make them playable
>>574007757there's no variation if you're crit capped.you can just unequip your damage cap sigils and then attack the dummy a few times and then toggle the 5% upgrade to see if it goes up regardless of damage cap.i've tested a bunch of shit with the same wording and most of them are just basic attack boosts that respect the damage cap, but you still have to test every single one cause the devs(or translators) are fuckin retards.
>>574007496Hexa is made up of 6 jobbers instead of 1 in the case Bubs, or 2 in Faa’s case.
>>574004835Doing Conflux as it gets introduced to you basically hands you an ascended weapon, make be a Defender one
>>574007827What is the crabs are forever sigil and where do you get it?
Finally my gay is bulging
People said you can set the dummy to chaos to make fatebreaker work, but I can't see that setting anywhere
>>574008281wtf dont doxx me bro
>>574008281hopefully mine
Where?
>>574008281Narmaya is like that
>>574008215>sigil master 1You don't get 2 on terminus?
>>574008228It's under the dummy HP setting>>574008080Get all dark crabs, it gives HP % and ATK as a combination of crab resonance and the other crab sigil that I forgot the name of
is there a google docs or something with sigil setups for various characters?
>>574008602best i've got is this for you, but this is for general builds and you have to decide what character sigils you want along with if you need stuff like quick charge/stout heart/steady nerves etchttps://rentry.co/ytczavom
>>574008601>It's under the dummy HP settingWow that's retarded, thanks
>>574008551No, its bullshit.I guess its because they want you to have achoice of weapon so ascension is the easier choice and gets a little extra sigil bump elsewhere for lack of cap that terminus has.>>574008601>a combination of crab resonance and the other crab sigilThey wont stack then, so its like 3 sigils in 1 I guess.I suppose I am doing story later then.I put all these on my captain and I want to make him as tanky as I can.
>>574008281
>hey we know you already have like 500% damage cap>but have you considered killing yourself for another 50%But why
>>574002506Lobby closed. Thanks for playing!
>>574002506I got a stout heart summon from the four dragons in this lobby~ would recommend!
>>574002506GGs brosI can't tell which strategy is the best method since either way works
>>574008728>they added new crabs and it has an op sigilfuck this
What if I solo slime using 4 mastery sigils, would that actually work?
>>574002506GGs! I'm once again capped on MSP
>>574009281is that still only on behemoth
Damn is this what happens when you have a fully optimised Vane in shitter Chaos++ content?
Is there any point of going above 100% crit rate?
>>574008495Infinity hexa
>have to collect the crabs in the fucking base game now for the best sigil in the game
Draph milk
>Chaos++ frost dog boss>Fediel named Aru>dies like 4 times in the first 20 seconds>disconnects and never dies again because CPU takes overARU NOOOOOO
>>574009442Nope!
>>574009527No unless you're using the cric weapon for some reasonConflux has some skills that require overcrit chance too but that's pretty whatever
>>574009174Think of all the extra damage you're gonna do if you survive
>>574009174you enable that when doing training dummy runs to pad
>Bea's turn to SBA>"SEIYAAAAAAA">"HAAAAAAA">"DORRRHYAAAA"I can't help but laugh
>>574009650I only got a berserker from that...
>>574005906Nobody said this, but it's obvious that you're a retard for pointing out an obvious case. Your snowflake character will be full of shitters too if he was actually popular
>>574009793STAAAAAAAAAAH CHASAAAAAAHDOOOORRRRRRRRRHIIYYAAAABea is too fun~
>bea came with masteries selected even when I couldn't assign points>game keeps telling me I'm boosting skills I don't have even tho those aren't selected anywhereHuh?
Do you guys stack autorevive up to level 20 from whatever source or just use level 15~17 and call it a day?
>>574010009Level 2+ and call it a day for me
Bea is so fucking loud when you're piloting her, but I have no idea if the other players can hear her screaming like a gorilla too or if it's toned down on their end.
Is there some sort of detailed damage cap guide?
>>574010009I literally just have it enabled I don't care about the level
>>574009793>>574009945i switched to gold clock trait and now i can only hear SHAAA and DORRYAHHH very fun gameplay yes
>>574010308we hear it
>>574010342see >>574008728As far as how much ATK you need, if you have a weapon transcended as far as you can take it along with Celestial Lumen and Fatebreaker you'll pretty much be set cap-wise.
>>574010308we can hear itSEEIIIII HYAH DORYAAAAAAA
>>574010402What do you expect from a character voiced by Hirano Aya?
tfw haven't touched djeeta in the expansion
>>574010430>things that make your damage go past DMG cap>ATK Buffs (if it has a buff icon and increases ATK it works, so this includes buff based stances)Any clue if defense debuffs work in a similar manner?Or do they just make it easier to hit cap?
>>574010308Depends on how far away she isYes, others can literally hear you approching
i'm so fucking tempted by that fully ascended terminus but i'll be chewing through the carpet like a mad man
>>574010092>>574010380I'm just worrying that 2 use aren't enough for infinity, though having 1 more chance doesn't really change anything, right?R-right?
>>574009945Lay off the food you fat fuck
>>574010740hmmmmnyo
>>574010740HOT
>>574010703They feel anxious just go man, as bad as you think you are, i assure you, youll find yourself carrying way worse people.
>>574010007Probably a bug, I got it too.
>optimize my damage caps>want to quit training area>quit game instead>game didn't autosave
>>574010664They do and both stack as well
>>574010739I'll be honest, I never even knew it has a limited number. I don't recall it having a counter in the og game so I just assumed it's on a timer
>>574011008Thanks m8. Still being a newbie getting the hang of it.
>>574010740bea's looks better
>questing with randoms via open matchmaking>my summons are differentWait, so everyone gets the host's summons? Does this apply to the sigils and passives too?
Which mastery on Rosetta?
I genuinely thought the double quests would be scaled down but they're not so I cant just bruteforce it with my main and a bunch of AI stragglers
>tired of not getting mvps>switch my support main to a dps main>it does less damage at the dummy
so with endless ragnarok we replace ai eugen with ai eustace or nah?
>>574011563Def Down/Attack Up one should be huge damage boost for everyone.
>>574011042Yeah they nerfed it after dlc to limited number, same for guts
>>574011748Why not both? Ai Eustace is crazy good though. I think Ai Eustace, Ai Percival, Ai Siegfried and Ai Rosetta are all pretty great
>>574011756I think people need def up and attak down instead
>>574011486No? You can only use your first equipped summon, while the rest are other's first summon tooSigils and passive are still yours too
>>574011968More like DEF Up and INT Up.
>>574012190Int only ever goes down
>>574011921Most fights still aren't long enough before Infinity that it could even come off of cooldown 3 times even if you died instantly at the start of a run
>>574011931Why are you retards recommending sieg for ai??HE HAS STOUT HEART BUILT IN, HE SUICIDES IN CHAOS DIFFICULTY UNLESS YOU MADE HIM GIGA TANKhe's ass for ai
>>574012532AI actually blocks shit now, but they still don't dodge when they have Stout Heart? Lame
Now Less is more is dead, what skills for zeta AI
>trying to upgrade AI party members>you HAVE to do SBAs with the weapon equippedcan I do this shit in training mode
We all know Fediel is the best most "meta" new character but who is the best after her?
>>574012819fraux
>>574012819Vengeance Id carried by Fediel's Petrified.
>>574012803conflux counts, do farm runs
Do I really have to fucking build a Eautass just to farm MP? What level of investment should he be in anyway?
>>574013873>>574013873>>574013873
What does the new crab sigil do?
>>574012803it's not really hard, for me it's to use them to clear with angra mainyu raid which is impossible
