fury or arms for warrior leveling?

>>573976229
Arms early on, optional respec to fury around 40-50.

>>573976229
Arms is complete ass from lvl 1-70

You will lose 1v2 normal mobs your level because it takes 3.5 sec to attack once.

As fury you can mow down 4 mobs at the same time with sweeping strikes, whirlwind and cleave and flurry.

Classic+ won't be vanilla+. It'll be Wrath level difficulty wise with Wrath-MOP levels of class balance. Just look at OSRS. Basically no one knew how about tick manipulation and now it's a core game mechanic.

>>574006673
I'm a big TBC and Wrath hater but I'm still keeping an open mind in case they end up doing something like that. I liked SoD, so there's that. I expect c+ to be around that ballpark.

You guys still playing tbc anniv?
Honestly the only thing that keeps me playing tbc is slowly leveling my alts to 70 so they can be ready for wotlk.

I fell for the Classic+ hype and I rather not be completely burned out of wow by the time it launches.

>>574010070
why do you need alts to "prepare for wotlk", though?

>>574010070
I'm still playing tbc anniv. Started playing wow for the first time a few days ago. Pretty fun game.

>>574010220
I'm not "preparing" them, just literally leveling them to 70

>>573975873
this image gives me PTSD
classic fucking drained my irl wallet

I want to get into raiding on HC, what realms have active guilds? And what factions

Alright guys, literally just got to lvl 70 today with both of my characters
How hard is it to get a raid spot nowadays?
I have a lock and a priest, I don't mind healing.

During leveling 68-70 people spammed me hard with ginvs specially on my lock, but not sure if most of them are just super casual guilds or if guilds in general are in such a dire need for new players.

>>573996810
>You will lose 1v2 normal mobs your level
hamstring, lil bro
i know it doesnt do epic dps but its one of your best abilities

Bets on C+ expanded class roles?
>Paladins getting taunt: almost guaranteed
>Tank shaman: probable
>Tank lock: god I hope so but I doubt it
>Healer mage: probably not

>>574021131
>all things from expansions, turtle or sod
grim

>>574021589
class design in wrath is good, and doesn't necessarily ruin vanilla's feel as long as its implemented correctly

>>574021131
Tank hunters would be kino. Mage healers are cool too. In fact, every dps only class should tank or heal too, break the monotony

all i want is mage healer...

>>574023631
it absolutely ruins vanilla feel by turning all specs into superheroes who can bulldoze any threat while leveling

>>574021589
>>574023631
You can spot the vanilla warrior from a mile away whenever they start yapping about the superior vanilla class design

I love vanilla but unfortunately wotlk was as good as it gets regarding class design, way too many shitty changes after wotlk and too many shitty, unplayable specs during vanilla/tbc.

>>574026351
Except that class design after wrath mogs it easily
Mainly by making healing a real role instead of just for your girlfriend

>>574026939
>Except that class design after wrath mogs it easily
mmm nyo

>swifty streaming delivering food
what the fuck happened?

>>574029296
he has negative charisma and negative iq, everything was handed to give on a silver platter to become a huge wow e-celeb but he fucking SUCKED at it

>>574029582
handed to him on a silver platter*

>>574027229
Name 1 spec better in wrath than later

>>574032561
Not him but I can name one spec better in TBC than in any other iteration. Seal twisting ret.

>>574029582
This. I'm not a fan of streamers in general but holy shit, there are some decent people out there that will never get even 10% of the attention, support and sponsorship that Swifty got but, here we are.

>>574032737
lmao
Retfags really need to rope

>>574032867
Wrath ret is braindead and is the leading cause of why everyone hates ret paladins today. Everyone plays ret in WOTLK because it's fucking braindead easy so it attracts subhumans. TBC ret requires nuance so it filters these creatures leaving only those who actually ret for being what it is, an RNG gambling spec.

>>574033192
Rng garbage is the opposite of nuance

>>574033640
The nuance is making sure you twist correctly every time.

Now I remember why I fucking hate crafting items. Always some fucking third worlder or bot scanning and relisting items every few mins, logged in 24/7.

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>>574010070
>You guys still playing tbc anniv?

yeah but i'm just raid logging tier 5 and some weeks doing yolo arena 5's. sometimes i'll do a couple daily quests. i only have 1 character and no alts

>>574017546
Probably very easy on both classes. I think Warlocks are just straight up good in many ways, S Priests are super high demand, and regular healers are always needed

>>574026351
no one mentioned "superior vanilla class design" until your post, thougheverbeit

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Ploos status?

Is hardcore WoW just WoW as a roguelike with your gold as the only thing permanent, assuming you make a bank alt?

I'm leveling a rogue on vanilla for the first time. Is Slice and Dice worth casting? And should I care about weapon speed or just dps? And I'm assuming I just level as combat?

>>574044538
>Is Slice and Dice worth casting
Yes, keep it up 100% of the time.
>And should I care about weapon speed or just dps?
Usually just DPS since the majority of your damage comes from melee white hits but generally slower = better because it has higher top end making your SS hit harder.
>And I'm assuming I just level as combat?
Yes.

Is anyone here actually enjoying CoA? I keep trying to get into it since so many people are shilling it, but every time I try I come across some private server slop that's egregious enough for me to want to log out

>>574045263
its retailslop

>>574045263
It's slop and doomed anyway, they just got a RICO lawsuit just like turtlewow did.

If you wanna play then go ahead, just don't take it too seriously or waste any money with it.

>>574045263
Streamers are being paid to shill it, it's plainly obvious.

/r/ing some second monitor slop while I level on hardcore

classic kek

Alexensual runs these threads

If it were up to me, every realm would be completely region locked with instant account closures if attempting to login with a VPN.

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why is my gold represented with text instead of the usual gold silver and copper symbols?

>>574045263
its just retail for people who cope they dont like retail or cant afford retail

>>574051880
did you mean "Alexsensual runs into level 17 hunters?"

>>574059421
he did not train dash + hunter cheated

>>574059718
what

>>574045059
thanks

also daggers or swords or does it really matter?

>>574063736
For leveling? Swords. Once you hit 60 you can choose between combat swords or combat daggers. Personally I like combat daggers a lot more because there's rarely any competition for daggers and backstab is just x1000 cooler thematically.

which race for leveling a lock?

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>>574063736
Don't listen to the other guy. Before level 42, you spam sinister strike and use either eviscerate: or rupture as a finisher depending on the situation. After level 42, you open with 2x sinister strike and then use slice and dice.

Pic rel is your talent order from 1-60.

I don't respec at level 30 to get Blade Flurry earlier, since I don't visit a trainer between level 28 and (almost) 32, and parts of the route from 30-32 don't benefit much from Blade Flurry anyway.

Also always swords, are you ally or horde?

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>Do multiple raids a week cause i'm an addicted degenerate
>Be team player for the community I play in, do multiple classes / roles not just being a warrior zugger 24/7
>Never get recognised for any of it
>Make 1 mistake after a year of flawless raiding that wipes the raid
>Get talked to like vermin by the RL as if I intentionally griefed and get multiple hate whispers from folks who died
This is the moment I realised i'm wasting my life and noone on wow is really your friend.

>>574105082
this is 100% your fault for joining a chud guild

>>574105082
>Be team player for the community I play in, do multiple classes / roles not just being a warrior zugger 24/7
I learned this years ago. Being a team player is the same as being a doormat. It's a weakness, not a strength.

>>574076902
Gnome/Orc
Human if you really can't stand gnome and don't mind gimping yourself
Undead if you're a homo

>>574106003
I don't know if you are shitposting but unironically yes. I stopped joining guilds that give me 4chan vibes because I've been wronged one too many times. I'm not a faggot lover but I purposely seek shit like gay friendly guilds because they are more tight-knit groups less likely to just use you and discard you. This can come with disadvatanges though, because for that very reason they are a bit more prone to having some members have random mexican telenovela dramas. On the upside those are fun to witness as long as you aren't involved.
Overall 8/10 would recommend.

Do most of you lads pay for the sub or play on private servers?

>>574116154
I am not south american, indonesian or eastern european so $15 is an acceptable asking price to not be forced to raid with the aforementioned groups.

>tank is another backpedaling retard carried by being a prot paladin

>>574116707
I want to try out classic wow but I don't understand why I would pay for it when I can play it for free on private servers, especially when most people say the private servers are better than blizzard's official ones???
I get that the experience with guilds/raiding is probably nowhere near the same but if I mostly care about the immersion and solo play I see literally no reason to shell out money for it.

>>574117018
You're basically paying to not get rugpulled

Blizzard official servers won't get randomly shut down by a lawsuit, a C&D, or the randos running the pserver to shut it down for one of many personal reasons to do so. When people invest hundreds of hours into a game they aren't privy to having all of their progress randomly erased.

>>574117018
Whatever you do on Classic (vanilla) will never be erased or deleted. If you play on hardcore, or vanilla era, your character will still be waiting for you there forever.
>especially when most people say the private servers are better than blizzard's official ones???
They may be right, but a lot of people hate Blizzard because it's all they know. If Classic+ launched 1:1 with whatever private server you're currently contemplating on rolling on, they'd say it was shit too.

>>574117018
There are no good private servers nowadays, unfortunately. Just wait 2 months for classic+ m8

>>574117018
I would 100% agree with you if not for the fact that the only classic wow private server worth playing died (Turtle). The remaining ones are not good at all. Even if the official servers are full of bots it's still a MUCH better experience and a MUCH better community that the current private options.

>>574118493
link

>>574118493
Link?

>>574118493
OH MY GOD ITS CLASSIC RETAIL

>>573975873
>bogling root

>>574118493
I do not believe you, demon.

going to be bedridden for a couple days. really wish classic+ was out already

>>574122238
get well soon, anon. sod will be here waiting for you

>still no definite leaks
im so bored

>>574118493
>[Deleted]

Bros... Blizzard got him...

>>574138887
The Classic+ team is significantly smaller than the Retail team has historically been, so there's probably not going to be any legit leaks. The content creators who were invited to test it also aren't going to risk their career and a massive lawsuit over it.

If we do get any leaks, it'll probably be a week or two before Blizzcon, with someone getting their hands on promo material

How am I going to find 4 people to do Scholo with me for my mount quest on TBC annii...

>>574146341
it cant be that hard there are at least 4 other paladins

I came back to classic after 3 month break and i feel so much behind from my guild. Most of AQ items are loot council and i need 3 more runs for the AQ sets. Also i just realized that playing rogue is useless and i should have rolled warrior. Raiding is so blackpilling

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evens i healslut on tbc
odds i spriest

>>574150427
I tried for like 6 hours but couldn't find a group that could manage to do the event so I gave up..

Listening to my guildmates argue and rave about the goyball, theyre like so angry and sad if the team of nigroids that supposedly represents their country doesnt do well. These are not real people.

>>574105082
I had this experience in the vanilla portion of this anni, I just quit without saying anything and rerolled. I found a guild that appreciates the effort I put in now. They give me good gear, im 3 pieces away from full p2 bis rn, been unlucky with some drops. And they actually treat me well. Just don't play with spastics.

>>574151229
Huh? Classic? AQ?
Are you in some weird progression guild or something? Because everyone playing Era raidlog just gdkp the fuck outta naxx and that's it.

what raidframe addon should i use for healing?

>>574157384
gdkp world tour bro

you think you do but you don't

You don't, but you think you do

i hope paladin doesn't get overdesign bloat in c+. even TBC can be a little much sometimes. i like the simplicity of vanilla pally. yeah its slow but its chill and you can never die

>>574154546
Get fucked britbongs

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I'm from the future. It's happening

>leveling a hunter
>pull aggro off pet
>press feign death
>despite the fd not being resisted, the enemy mob still sprints 30 yards directly into my dead zone before turning around to continue attacking my pet
really well made game

any large pvp guilds on tbc Nightslayer?
looking for a guild that is Ideally LGBT+ and child friendly (with a good ratio) and pro Israel

lil gup got ganked LMAO

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Will classic+ be good?

>>574167056
ya

>>574167056
if it's anything like sod or turtle, then absolutely not
they need to reign in a lot of the whacky private server/beyond vanilla shit and make it more about the journey. unfortunately i don't see this happening because the "leveling is boring" crowd will piss and moan on reddit that not having a mount before 40 is too tedious

don't care about new zones
don't care about new dungeons
don't care about new raids
don't care about new battlegrounds
don't care about horizontal progression
just need to see warriors shit themselves to death over class balance changes

>>574168228
warriors were still insane in sod, though. not sure where this desired cope comes from

Unironically (unironically) want leveling to be 5 times longer.

>>574168765
you know as well as i do that brownoids don't just want to be strong or even the strongest
they want the power gap between them and second place to be astronomical so they can justify taking all the gear for themselves

Warriors will pay the hybrid tax in Classic+.

so everyone just buys gold right

>>574169070
what is the hybrid tax?

>>574169723
It's very simple: if your class can fill more than one role (tank, healer, damage), then you shouldn't be as good at any of those roles as a class that can only fill one role.

Paladins and Druids are hybrids because they can do all three. Priests can deal damage and heal. Warriors can tank and deal damage. None of them should do as much damage as a Hunter, Mage, Rogue, or Warlock.

sounds like some sissies are seething over warriorBVLLS again

>>574169935
why not just make all classes good but unique instead?

>>574170561
They are all good. Do you think damage is the only thing that matters?

>hey man i know i just asked you to kill an entire cave of gorillas and you did a really great job
>can you please run all the way to the other side of that zone, clear the entire cave again, and kill one specific gorilla at the very back?
>no, i couldn't have had you do this the first time around

>>574168228
very pink coded post
>>574168765
it was so funny that despite faggrends best efforts and all the pissing and shitting from le community, warriors were still kings on the meters and to top it off, were better at using the assbanger than fagadins. the seething was just sublime
>>574169000
hey i'm all for balance but you gotta take stuff away from other classes as well as add qol to warriors. fair is fair after all

>complain about browns
>browns show up

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why have pinkies been seething about warriors for 20+ years? i thought rage was warrior's mechanic

>>574171419
they're just failed warriors at the end of the day. can't live without the safety net of bubble and the most efficient single target heal in the game. they get conniptions when having to do anything beyond auto attacking because it's too much work

>warriors when there is a 0.000001% chance they have to share their gear:

>>574171272
aggrend is such a hack he cant even make warrior suck on a funserver devoted to making paladin #1. and these are the same people expected to deliver classic plus lmfao

>>574171731
>share their gear
why should they? you just said it yourself, it's theirs.
furthermore, they get the best use out of it in a raid setting. If you're a team player, wouldn't you want the class that can best utilize drops to get them?
personally, itemization is a big pain point in vanilla. i'd like to see for classic+ classes get incentives to use their armor class over just taking whatever is best statwise. that means warriors only using plate, hunters mail etc. also separating spell plate so paladins can still get healer plate gear

>>574171731
>sissy so mad he forgot his reaction image

>>574170960
wowlogs and streamers have done irreparable damage to the game
>if my class isn't numba #1 on le logs then its shit aaaaaaaah save me aggrend
then people watch a streamer playing a warrior in a battleground being carried by 3 decked out healers just running around murdering everything and think the class is broken
if doing damage is the only thing that matters, then play classes that do damage. it's that simple really

god damn the subhumans on anni are more terrible at the game than they were in 2019

>>574167056
have you ever seen the matrix

just finished ungoro at 54
where to next?

>>574184075
wpl

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I've been bored/sad lately so I kind want to larp like its still 2007 with TBC. Which class should I focus on?

Hunter (tauren) or Shaman (draenei). I'd be open to Tauren Shaman as well

I'm more inclined to believe a Classic+ is happening due to the lawsuits against Ascension and Turtle. Same exact thing happened with Nost, only this time Blizz has probably been working on their stuff for a while

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I want to post this, because it's my luckiest moment i had so far in wow

>>574191249
Mh. Up to you, but I think shaman is just very cool with the totems.

>>574191249
tauren is more comfy

>>574192092
fuck the robes of arcana

Why is nearly every general in catalogue weebshit

>>574194473
I wasn't even looking for it just doing the quest over there, but I do have tailoring so it's pretty cool