Storm Raptor EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>573886035>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Patch 1.12.0 patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-patch-1-12-0-out-now-skitarii-later-today/122573Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2 (check /vm/ for general)Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2Payday 2The Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZKilling Floor 3John Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far Westand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
Darktide is a tale of Hive Scum, Skitarii merely share it.
Some kebab, mister?
Does coopg ever play together
>>573977194No
Do empowered psionics and kinetic flayer interact or do I need to do the manual burst
>>573977194I used to host h40 games here like a few months ago but stopped due to lack of interest
>>573977194No, lots of anons are afraid of schizos making lists of whoever shows up
>>573977425>>573977298I prefer it this way nglEvery general that groups up regularly for games ends up with homo drama bullshit and it always wrecks the threads
>>573977359>Brain Rupture attacks triggered by this talent benefit from Empowered Psionics' damage buff without consuming a stack.
>>573977508Wrong; thoughbeit usually right. But I won't tell which generals are safe.I actually cured a general by being so based.
>>573977524Very cool
Can something like "Up Close And Personal" be done in Mortis?
Advanced Combat Doctrines is pretty good when you have a competent team and they feed you ammo. Gunners and specials will never hurt my team.
I fucking hate scab vanguards or niggers as I like to call them.
Why don't pubbies kill tox bombers? Then why do they stand in the gas?
>>573978967They don't see the tox bomber
>>573978125Nope. But you can do stuff that doesn't dictate it being a mission, like Ogryn charge and flame servo-skull one.
>>573979001>walks across the screen slowly directly in front of all the enemies you're shooting at
>>573978967Pubbies arent even sentient
>>573977194I regularly posted auric lobbies during the arbites peak. Most of the time I got 0-1 other players, sometimes but very rarely 2-3. Either there isn't much interest, or my titles looked scary and filtered the insecure, or our general population is predominantly sub-auric and doesn't want to embarrass itself.I've never had a schizo stalker, but I also never had a problem with coopg players in general, and I met a good couple dozen of them. There's obviously some weirdos on 4chan and this place isn't the exception, but out of the players I had, everyone was, at worst, fine to play with.I try to make an effort to help others do private game penances and such, because they're a huge pain in the ass otherwise.
>>573979891most of the shitters fled to play helldivers. Also for all the bitching about randoms this game is much more fun when it's basically a solo experience with 3 anchors.
>>573977683Sadly true more often than not.
>>573980048>Also for all the bitching about randoms this game is much more fun when it's basically a solo experience with 3 anchors.I don't feel this way at all, because carrying 3 worthless shitters isn't co-op, it's singleplayer with sub-sentient leeches. There are better singleplayer games out there. Just because I can solo an auric maelstrom doesn't mean I want to do that, and the average shitter is too brain fogged to even notice what's going on, so it's not like I can ego trip and put on a show when these retards are drooling over their tiktok phone screens instead of watching.The problem is more the combination of>players have gotten good at the game>players have received a lot of power creep>enemies did not keep up with the power creep>after all of the above, auric is too easily soloedbut I'd much rather have a slightly harder game and actual teammates than 3 lost malicelets that perform worse than a bot.
>>573979891Do people follow the thread so regularly though? I at least only occasionally peek whats being discussed and then see that 4 hours ago someone proposed hosting a match. I would expect a lot of other posters are in a similar boat.The thread would have to be nothing but group invites every 10 minutes for a suitable lobby to be available.
>>573980303Why arent you playing Havoc 40 then?
>>573980386>Do people follow the thread so regularly though? Most don't and that's okay, I wouldn't expect a lobby to instantly hit 4 players. But there was very little interest overall with people asking to join, even after getting a party of 2 together. I posted during different times, often made reminder posts between games, etc. and still struggled to get more than a couple regulars together. After a handful of posts over the span of 4 hours, I think I'd have acquired everyone that wants to play during that time, and I posted during all sorts of different times.
>>573980451What gave you the impression that I don't? I can play and enjoy havoc 40 and still complain about auric being unplayably bad because it's always 3 sub-sentient shitters requiring a carry.I wonder how many runs that don't have a carry, wipe within the first couple minutes, because nobody in the team can kill more than 1 poxwalker at a time.
What is the deal with payday 3?
>>573980574Region might also affect. I mostly browse the thread when at work but of course play on a completely different time
>>573980790Imagine if payday 2 was worse in every conceivable way aside from two things that got done better but even then didn't work with the game.
I enjoy being a twin stubby shitter now. Fuck playing intelligently.
After returning to the game, the weapon that I've probably enjoyed the most since coming back is the bolt pistol. This thing is so much fun.
>>573980790plenty of dlc in a game that didn't have a rdying up button
>>573980712Not sure why you're seething. Havoc 40 is for tryharding with competent players. Aurics are for random shitter mayhem.
>>573981923>havoc 40 mentioned>shitter has a meltie over being carried in auricYeah that tracks
>>573981436It's very fun to play Ogryn because you can just shut your brain off and watch things happen on the screen with tons of effects rewarding you for that.
>>573980712Hmm...
>>573980712>>573982530
>>573982530>faking a supposedly fake havoc assignmentIs this what butthurt auric warriors have come to?
>>573982530>>573982851so who do I believe???
>>573983104whomever appeases your izzat of course
>>573982530>>573982851Anyone who actually plays havocs can tell that the numbers are perfectly normal
>>573977194I remember helping some anons get their Karbak Twins keychains
>>573980790Tried to do the darktide thing where they release a game with a multiplayer only pricetag but also intense microtransactions a good year before it was really done cooking except they forgot that darktide only got away with that cause the base gameplay is just that good.
Can they just fix the thunderhammer already. The only good two handed weapon for regular humans being the cuckmaul sucks ass
>>573983814There's nothing to fix, it's working as intended
>>573980790Funny story. I revisited the game like a year ago to see what had been changed. There was the new stealth heist at a dock with multiple routes, vaults, armoured cars etc.You could throw guards off the pier into the water which wouldnt activate their pagers. It was quite hilarious and they could be attracted with gunshots to come to the pier.So of course the devs patched this mechanic. No fun allowed. You must only interact with the shit stealth mechanics and 2 pager limit. Stop having fun.Haven't revisited after that. Being able to clear the map was the only time I had fun with stealth in Payday 3 and they just had to patch that out. Fuck them, fuck the shit stealth, fuck pager limits, fuck their prioritization for updates.
>>573977508Eh, it's different from mmoshits with a defined community. People only namedrop or make lists when they can gain (you)s from a circle that plays together literally every day. With scattered game gens like these, literally no one cares about who plays whodunit, so it's not really a thing as far as I can tell.
>two veterans>both trying to be backline only shoots man>literally just holding the horde back so someone can do a puzzle feels insanely hard>almost to the end of the level, one disconnects>with the bot things become easier and we win
cute story keep us posted sis
>>573984315>>with the bot things become easierAnyone who performs worse than the average bot needs to be barred from that difficulty and kicked at least 2 lower until they outperform a bot.
>Medipack.... .... .... doowwn
>>573984070Was it turbid(formerly murky) station? In that case I'll only remark on>new stealth heist>Turbid Station, formerly known as Murky Station, is a legacy heist in PAYDAY 3.>from PAYDAY 2
>>573942650Drooling sword is serviceable in aurics but it absolutely doesn't cut it in havoc because it does fuckall damage to boss shields. It's bad for horde clear too, it's only good for activating weapon specialist. You can reload double barrelled shotgun with it, and clear hordes with that, and you will be fine in aurics. But clearing hordes with DS is a nightmare.If you can survive ragers, shock maul is alright on a veteran. But it's hard to stagger them if you don't have hammerblow stacked (which can happen when you use ranged instead of your melee). I guess you will figure out if you can use it. It's alright to magdump ragers before they get to you, especially in aurics where ammo is not an issue.If you can't survive ragers, devils claw is good. It easily staggers poxwolkers, so horde clear is good even if attack numbers on it a low, thanks to skullcrusher. Remember that on trash enemies skullcrusher works better when you spam light attacks, because stagger from separate attacks adds up. And when facing ragers, press parry to win.Power sword is the strongest melee weapon in the game if you can manage activations.Plasma is fucking dogshit, it wasn't great to begin with, and it was hit with multiple nerfs. Use bolt pistol or heavy laspistol, or recon lasgun, or double barrelled for a silly weapon specialist build.
>bro use my modpack
>>573983104Everyone here is a liar, therefore the image is grabbed from reddit but the other anon shooped it to look fake
>>573955249>I have never actually seen one activateare you for fucking real? I would say 1/3 games in auric, damnation or heresy some retard will go out of his way to deliberately trigger the thing. in heresy and damnation if everyone joins in that usually means dead daemonhost but in auric it can result in trouble.
>>573984851here's your (you), see ya tomorrow for your sole human interaction
>>573984851Where is the fingerless glove meter and the semen tracking, both absolutely VITAL information to know AT ALL TIMES 100%
>>573984993That's exclusive to outcast engineer in vermintide 2.
>I go down>the team wipes>new mission>I go down>the team wipes>new mission>I go down>the team wipes>new mission
>>573985047most people aren't sentient
>>573985047>I go downlol stay out of my heresy's shitter
>>573985047>being the first to go down>blames teamSounds like you're the problem lole
>>573985047It seem you go down way too often
>>573984659>Plasma is fucking dogshit, it wasn't great to begin with, and it was hit with multiple nerfsWhat the fuck are you using the plasma for, clearing havoc hordes? It still hits all of the breakpoints it did before the nerfs, meaning it snipes elites and specialists almost exactly as well, it just lost a bit of cleave, which it rarely if ever used to begin with.The most painful nerf, by far, is the longer swap time, and that's manageable in havoc where you have actual teammates dealing with hordes.Even suggesting DB shotgun is downright delusional with how hyper-specific making that build effective in h40 is.But yes laspistol is better.
>>573985130>>573985157I should clarifyI go down after the team goes down a dozen timesThere's only so much I can handle after 20 minutes of horde and special clearing
>>573985304for me it's >hardcarrying on ogryn>endlessly picking up the team>they all die>soloing a mixed horde>dog or trapper spawns>pay the ogryn tax and get netted/dogged i love the big guy but eating undodgeable nets or dogs here and there gets so tiresome
>>573985047>I spend more than 20 seconds on the objective>team doesn't have the DPS to kill more than 2 ragers>everyone but me goes down within 5 seconds of each other
>>573985296Considering how the darktide community (and chinks) tend to overreact like a weapon was mutilated beyond repair over inconsequential nerfs, I'm surprised people aren't pretending like the DS was hypernerfed
>>573985296>It still hits all of the breakpoints it did before the nerfsdid you miss this part?>it wasn't great to begin withAlso>which it rarely if ever used to begin withCleave was the only thing it had, without cleave why even bother, just take a bolt pistol
>>573985521>I'm surprised people aren't pretending like the DS was hypernerfedI think losing the overpowered special stun stab was a humongous nerf, and that the parry doesn't adequately replace it. The stab was half the reason I used it, so I've now abandoned it on most of my builds. Idc about the damage nerfs so much, it still performs exceptionally well in that role anyway.The reason why nobody cares is because they never used the stun stab to begin with because they never knew, and will now never know.>>573985615>Cleave was the only thing it had, without cleave why even bother, just take a bolt pistolDo you not know why the plasma gun is good? It has some of the highest base damage and best breakpoints out the gate without requiring much damage investment at all. Its usefulness lies in the opportunity cost of saving points in ranged damage investment, freeing up points you can now put in survivability or melee. Every other weapon has worse breakpoints and thus requires more investment to still kill scab and dreg gunners in a single headshot.
>>573979072Doesn't matter if the fucker is hiding behind 3 layers of tox gas and no one manages to ping them.
Claw seems fine but I keep seeing people simultaneously declare it shit and OP
I think the cleave nerf was an earnestly good thing.Plasma was never a bad weapon, I hated seeing it on literally every single pug havoc vet because if they used DS/plasma then I knew for an absolute fact they were going to be a stupid mouthbreathing retard who did nothing but magdump into hordes or carapace for some reason. Although vets are still just as retarded, low cleave weapons being popularized forced the average vet player to be slightly less retarded.
Let me animepost too.I use bolter and magic sword and kraks with vet because it makes me feel like a big hero.
>>573977194We sometimes do for penances. I got my private game penances done with anons.
>>573986193people be retards
>>573986292No one even noticed the cleave "nerf" except the chinese who absolutely lost their shit and review bombed the game over it
>>573986193It is... utilitarian. It's absolutely stupid in terms of flat out damage up to Damnation. It falls off at Auric when you are using it the same way (boss killing), but it retains its effectiveness at deleting shit in front of you if you need to. It's also very easy to get stacks on, so the pure damage it provides is obvious. Where it falls off (in this use) is in Havoc where the damage it outputs isn't particularly great, but there is a trick. You can drop the horizontal and pick up the triple stab because they apply a bunch of bleeds. It should be obvious why that still makes the ability viable. If you are trying to use it as a damage dealing boss deleter, it falls off hard. But it gains a new type of utility once that stops working. This seems to be the case with a lot of various parts of the Skitarii in terms of build and weapons. It's like the Arc Rifle. People don't see the true utility of it if they aren't doing Hi Int Auric or Havoc (especially Havoc), but once you do, you can immediately see why the Arc Rifle is absolutely monstrous.
>>573986001>best breakpoints out the gate without requiring much damage investment at alltell me you don't play veteran without telling me you don't play veteran
>>573986421me too
i got owned :(
>>573986698Find me another gun that one-shots both kinds of havoc 40 gunner with only Longshot (assuming only the 10% worst case), Superiority Complex, and +10% ranged damage (all skills you were already taking) and no other sources of damage.The only one that comes to mind is helbore.Boltguns struggle even with crits.
>>573986942>Using coverYou're supposed to always be dodging&sliding
>>573986942tranny
>>573986193Sweep loses effectiveness the higher you go because it deals unaugmented flat damage, lots of people also don't know that you can hold the ability button for a single target jab, which on a weakpoint kills everything in one tap except monstrosities. Voltaic is better for Havoc though.
>>573987018i literally dodged, but the dodge was stopped by a wallkinda gay how the net wraps around the corner tho
>>573987018He did dodge to the cover thoughever
>>573986942Why didn't you pull your gun out and magdump in this situation? They were all lined up.
>>573986959>>573986698>and no other sources of damage.>inb4 autistic arguments about semanticsI am of course including buffs like perks and blessings.10% elite, 25% flak, and Blaze Away perfectly one-shot all gunners across all difficulties, on the first shot, while the gun is cold.That is before factoring in Blaze Away stacks (I only take it for the first stack, who cares) and Rising Heat (since we are firing from cold).But sure I don't play vet :^)
>>573987128>>573987129Should've dodged better tee bee eych
>>573987180because if you look closely i sent the dog to do a dog explosion, which serves the same purpose
>>573985086This>>573986421We love and admire you
>>573987231I'm trying to point out how egregious the net hitbox is. I'm aware I could have dodged left and made it, you don't have to tell me this.
>game bugs out because of Swedejank code>thread blames the player
>>573987301I did notice, but dog bomb isn't what you do in this situation, you magdump
>>573987416cool. Any comments on the net?
>>573987416>magdumpit takes 1 shot anon
Just saying. If I was in that situation, I wouldn't have been netted.
>>573986292People were magdumping bulwark clowncars and collateral kills were a bonus. Not that removing a pack of ragers with 2-3 hits was bad either.>>573986623No one noticed cleave because they never fucking used it in malice. Everyone has already forgot bulwarks and current thing is hating vanguards anyway.>>573986959picrelated
how are trappers even real LAMO just shoot them LOL just dodge KEK
>>573987408I've seen this happen a lot.
>>573987754>t. Mark Wahlberg
>>573987195>perfectly one-shot all gunners across all difficulties, on the first shot, while the gun is coldProve it, I'm tired of your nigger behavior
>>573987673Map geometry won't protect you after the net has been fired if the hitbox still intersects you, and it's somewhat bigger than the projectile would suggest. You can see the trapper go into its firing animation before you dodge, so you should have dodged left to get better clearance rather than seeking cover as conventional logic would dictate.>but the flamersThat's what your gun is for. Shooting them all was the correct response here, with or without dodging. So it's player error. Better luck next time. Live and learn. Something about bootstraps.>>573987749Two flamers and a trapper would have taken more than one shot.
>>573987754Hey anon. That's very cool. You're very good at this game. For context, I was specifically playing arabitrator to dogmax. I wanted to see how much I could rely on the dog to do most of the work. If you look at the ammo it's basically full because I'm trying to avoid using it, as a test. You are entirely correct that there are better ways to handle the situation. Now back to the issue at hand. I made the webm in order to demonstrate how ridiculous the net can be. It's one of the most egregious examples I've experienced.
>>573920472Good question. Probably nothing good for the person saying for it.
>ogryn is pretty fun i should keep playing it>get to auric maelstrom>fighting 999 carapace>theres a sniper>eons pass>there are 3 snipers>nobody has fired a shot at them>we get sniped and die
>>573988148>he expects randoms to do anything
>>573988119Haha... What's the worst that could happen?
>>573988148Heavy stubber is the best DMR in the game. Use it.
>>573988148Snipers and hordes are the most common issues that randoms struggle with in my experience, so I try to make sure to build for either, or preferably both when I'm running Aurics. Skitarii feels straight busted when playing with ransoms.
>>573988148that's when you>drop your big box of boom >kill all the specials with your secondary while the entire room is stumbling aroundkickback can at least knock a sniper on it's ass at up to 60 metres and oneshots them out to 40ish
>>573988148Believe it or not, you can do both once you get better
>>573988334>Using kickbackLol
>>573988492Give him some grace. He's trapped in 2024.
>>573988332NTA but what about monstersIt feels like most randoms would wipe to monsters, considering I'm usually dealing more boss damage than the rest of the team combined.
>>573988527This entire thread be like>I played X 3 years ago I know better
Shock staff blaze psyker can deal with anything so I don't know what problems you others are having
>>573988334>>573988492>>573988527>>573988627Kickback can hipfire oneshot snipers at any range if you build enough ranged damage and specifically elites + unarmored + blaze away, and it's the main reason to use it. You could of course use Surgical and achieve the same with an aimed shot.
>>573988653>spawns a poxxer behind you
>>573988728>*switches to busted as fuck sword*
>>573987996>Map geometry won't protect you after the net has been fired if the hitbox still intersects you, and it's somewhat bigger than the projectile would suggest.I know. That's literally my entire point. I'm just showing it. As you said, it goes against conventional logic. And in my humble opinion it shouldn't be this way. Regardless if the play is correct or not. Wouldn't you agree?
>>573988492it's my special delete button and i won't let anyone take it from me. Shove your rumbler up your ass
>>573988710If you admit the main reason for your secondary is sniper killing why the fuck are you using kickback? Are you retarded?
>>573988710>specifically elites>snipers>eliteAnon....
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>573988276But Mister E in his recent weapons tier list said Heavy stubbers were shit tier! SHIT TIER!
>>573988841Heavy stubber you big dummy
>>573988861Specialists, my bad, I had a brainfart.I do have my kickback set up with specialists, I just got them mixed up.>>573988851I explained that kickback oneshots them unconditionally at any range, can you not read?
>>573988972Okay then mister E is absolutely fucking retarded. You're allowed to use your own brain. Maybe he is one of the mouthbreathers who somehow thinks its supposed to be a gunlugger weapon or whatever that you hipfire. Mind boggling desu.
>>573988985too clunky i do really like it
>>573988987You could just use a better weapon for special sniping
>>573988815I've seen the same complaint time and time again. I've given up on hating swedes for not fixing fringe cases like these, they will never go away.
>>573988564It's a little split in my experience. I occasionally get parties that don't have any monster damage at all, but more commonly I feel that people build to panic dump their skills and nades at monsters and crusher packs while being unable to deal with anything else.
>>573989152what is your fucking problem today sir?
>>573989215Thank you. I'm glad we finally understand each other.
Emperor protects.
Am I supposed to be able to recognize the sound of a trapper shooting their net while in the middle of a horde with no visual and no previous indicators that a trapper was even spawned at all? I clipped the last time I got netted in a horde and I keep rewinding it and trying to see if I can actually hear it and it seems almost impossible over all the other sounds
>>573989785Their sound cues frequently gets drowned out by other enemy sounds
>>573989785You probably got hit by a net that wasn't intended for you. Specials that don't target you don't make sound, but they can still get you. Sound occlusion has also gotten pretty bad especially with poxbursters near silent around corners and suddenly loud when in your face.
>>573989785the game can only produce so many special spawn audio cues at a time
>>573989994>>573990138I have a theory that while it may be a technical limitation, they could easily give trapper higher priority but they willingly choose not to because of their cohesion fetish.
>>573990287and that they hate the players
>>573990287It is a technical limitation.The sound engine is just fucked and regularly craps the bed when there's too many enemies on the map.It's just further evidence for the fact that Darktide was never meant to become as hectic as it is now.
>team of contrarian assholes that never want to push or lead>intentionally take a different path from me whenever I go first
>>573990707The barrels call to you, will you answer?
>>573990764Dude barrels like pewdiepie amnesia heck yesRandom as frick dude love it
>>573986193the claw has unbeatable>oh shit oh fuck Imma be overheaded outta my way poxie fucking shitsutility but for the havoc60 true solo chads here that obviously serves no purpose
>>573990862Holy cringe
Mister E also said the flame servo skull was shit tier
>>573990915>ebonic typing
>>573991029I want you to remaster this meme
>>573990974Because it is.Flamer skull isn't worth the point investment.You're better off taking either Noosphere or Medicae skull.
>>573990972Just matching your energy brochacho
>>573991121even medicae why wasting a point on retards
>>573988259if they can afford to make walking torture device mech suits why not just put regular ass guardsmen in a non-torture version
>>573991147I'm not him. You're way more cringe
I put all my points into servo skulls because I like having 3 friends with me all the time :3
I AM HIM
>>573991201Errrrmmm relax mr
>>573991178They get Sentinels>but that looks like shit compared to mortifiersYeah... Figures the church is better funded than the government.
Is blaze away good on a PBB rumbler spam build? And yes this is for H40.My rumbler is shart impact + blaze away currently.
>>573991178They do tho
>>573991152Being able to revive someone from range is very good.Especially if it's something like your chorus zealot who got crushered. Just wait until he has his chorus and then revive him so he can then just use chorus to get out safely.
>>573991270only armored/mechanized units get these and they're like 9 per regiment (a single recon troop)if I was a munitorum official I would be very mad at perfectly good combat walker chassis going to punish some bdsm sluts rather than outfitting good honest guardsmen
>>573991396got zero trust on randos to know when to use their abilities
Been wondering if this is a meme I can't say I notice any difference even when stacked up to 5. Is it because I'm only on heresy? Does difficulty affect body mass?
>>573991029An otherwise funny image ruined by retardspeak
>>573990056>Specials that don't target you don't make sound, but they can still get youHuh, I often have some random dog bark at me from miles away, completely confusing and deafening me, only for another dog to jump me without making any soundI don't think dogs even can knot you without targeting you.
>>573991521just like the one where the nog pours some wine over a vilain having some good points or the homelander being disgusted at someone
>>573991517You'll notice against flak and carapace
Arby dog feels so clunky after noosy.
>>573991904Imagine how crazy the dog would have to be to keep up with the skull. Flying back and forth across your screen pinballing between enemies
>>573990707this but in my every havoc gamebonus points for pushing the stupid death ramp under sniper fire in the beginning of silo cluster when I'm trying to lead them along the border
>>573991327Sticky adhesive. It allows the reaper one shot. Also increases your boss damage.
>>573991617Yeah I'm testing it a bit on the grinder, against a group of scab ragers it makes 0 difference. Against a group of scab maulers having it stacked to 5 cleaves through them. Seems like even with this blessing my cleave is still sort of in between breakpoints for somewhat similar mobs.I can't really tell if it's worth the blessing slot to be honest.
>>573991980Would be pretty hilarious if it teleported around from target to target. That being said, I wish it was just a little more faster instead of taking a minute to run to the gun pack I marked because apparently it ran off to fight a single poxer on the other side of the map inbetween spawns.>Just micro betterNah, I'm sticking to the Noosy
>>573991517It's sort of huge in Havocs.
>>573988148Run rock on aurics. S tier nade for anything below havoc imo
>>573992078It isn't really, it comes in handy when you're hip deep in a mixed horde, but not much outside of that.
>>573991327Yes but you need to hold the right mouse button to keep stacks, when you let go you lose stacks
>>573992059You take both
>>573991904>>573991980I genuinely wonder if at least enemy gas grenades blocking skull vision and power outages / vent purges reducing range are intended.I find it hard to believe the psyker dome and friendly smokes interactions are.But then again, fartshart.And not that I'd pick noosy any less even if they were.
>>573992235To be fair I still play tauntgryn on 40s with rumbler so I wouldn't know. Good to know if I do actually want to take pbb
where is badlwin, is he safe... is he alright...
>6 min into the 23 min game, there's some weird fucking bug crawling on my wallAfter some googling, it was a spittlebug that had crawled in, but I was like "what the fuck better not be some roachgger" the entire game.Ruined the mood, I don't want to play anymore...
>>573992384Doesn't anyone have that gif that one anon made of baldwin.
Not to suck my own cock or anything but my ogryn is pretty great
>>573992339Well to be fair I never tried brittleness with pbb but I don't think it does anything meaningful for flak
>>573992457disgusting tyranid scum
>>573992457Catgger's scared of a little bug.Typical.
>>573992457>roachggertrying too hard
>>573992457Very relatable, I'm glad it wasn't anything super nasty in your room
>>573992545You say that after a weird fucking bug you don't recognize is crawling on your wall
is the pistol+shield viable? it seems fun and i like the animations but it does feel a little weak.
>>573992580It's fun so use it :)
>>573992545Libtards are such snowflakes
>>573992536>ratgger trying to fan the flames from the shadows once again
>>573992580It does what I expect of it. That is, allows me to snipe snipers while I'm neck deep in a horde.
>>573992576It probably wasn't even a bug. Strictly speaking bugs are only insects with biting mouth parts.
>>573992851
>>573992078relic blade just feels like shit without it if you're used to running it. when you've got a mix of flak scab shitters and maulers in the crowd it makes the experience feel smoother. also helps cover your ass a bit while the blade is down if you can't disengage.>>573991517higher difficulty = more trash = more trash with armor
>>573992851>name is literally spittlebug>not a bugAnd shut up nigger it's crawling and it's small it's a bug
>>573992851Another useless factoid
>>573992384The shill money ran out. They could no longer hire Hedge.
>>573992457>normally have the entire house insect-proofed>but I had to leave the door open for a while the other day>some fucking flygger made it into my bedroom>the fucker constantly buzzed around me, taunting me>tried to hunt it down but the light was too dim for me to properly see it>hours later>flygger sitting on the window>completely fucking annihilate it with a fly swatter>actually smear the fucker into two distinct chunks>giggle like a retardI think I may be an ogryn IRL
>>573992536>ratnigger is ok with disgusting bugs in his homeNot surprising, both are vermin.
what did she mean by this
For space marine 2 what is a better stat right now, balanced, fencing or blocking? I know it used to be fencing but I assume they have changed things
>>573993746
>>573993797I heard it was blocking cuz it gave you damage boosts and explosions on melee hits but I just like balanced personally.
>>573993805Is the empire's obsession with skull icons because the emperor looks like a cadaver? LMAO
>have bad day at work>go home>play ogryn>be frens with everyone>everyone is frens with me>day improved
>>573993797its still fencing, because block weapons are slow as shit, you have to be really good at making those blocks>>573993867balance is literally the worst thing you can be doing
>>573993805why are all ecclesiarchy women such slutsI am surprised they aren't all slaanesh devotees, especially SoB. Look at this shit >>573988259 and tell me it's not their fetish
>>573993939They were doing the skull thing before thatThere's a theory floating around that the skull thing is the emperor honoring his father's skull millennia later
>>573994083repressing someone is only gonna make him to weirder
>>573993805When she sees me vs when she sees you
>>573994096Did he have a father?Or did he just manifest and use his magic to make everyone think he wasn't a weird anomaly?
>>573994175face on the right is genuinely hotter
>>573994207After the shamans all killed themselves, they reincarnated as him, so he had parents and everything. He shows Ra the time he killed his uncle after learning with his bullshit powers that he'd murdered his father.>He turned the skull once more, circling his thumb around the ragged hole broken into the bone. He didn’t need to close his eyes and meditate to know the truth. He didn’t need to pray for his father’s spirit to tell him what happened. He simply touched the hole in his father’s head, and at once he knew. He saw the fall of the bronze knife from behind; he saw his father fall into the mud; he saw everything that had happened leading to this moment in time.>The boy who would be king rose from the floor of his family’s hut and walked out into the settlement, his father’s skull clutched in one hand.>His barefooted walk took him unerringly to the home of his father’s brother. The man, darkened and hardened by his years in the fields, was sat outside the mud-brick hut, threading beads onto a string for his youngest daughter.>The boy’s uncle uttered the sound that meant the boy’s name. In response to this greeting, the boy held up his father’s skull.>Many centuries after these events, citizens of even civilised and advanced cultures would often misunderstand exactly what a myocardial infarction was. The savage, constricting pain in the chest was due to blood no longer flowing cleanly through the heart’s passages, causing harm to the myocardium tissue of the heart itself. Put simply, the core of a human being runs dry, trying to function with no oxygenated lubricant.>This happened to the boy’s uncle when he set eyes upon the skull of his murdered brother.>The boy who would be king watched with neither remorse nor any particular hostility. He looked on as his uncle slid from his crouch onto the mud, clutching at his treacherous chest.
>>573994214What she looks like doesn't matter to me
the blessings lady reminds me of her
Apparently Rogue Core is getting worse
>>573994603Surely they can fix it before it leaves EA in 7 years
>>573994603
I understand why they made Darktide characters be custom characters, money and cosmetics of course.But why did they make almost all the customization options so ugly? As if naturally pretty people won't exist in the future, there's like 4 good faces in total, 1 for female and only a handful of good hairstyles.
>>573995068Not with this retarded bait again, this shit always goes in circles
>>573995068You have AGP
>>573995119It's a perfectly valid question, not every question you don't like is bait.
>>573993939Imagine saying this in universe you'd be tortured out of existence within hours by some small entry level inquisitor
>>573995068if you're pretty you're more important than a reject
I haven't seen any Mekboy etc named Skitties. WAAAGH, mister Bond.
>>573995068Because originally all of darktide's characters were meant to be degenerate scum sucking criminals so they were all made to look the part, they did not succeed in conveying this with all of the personalities.You weren't meant to be playing as anyone even close to pretty.
>>573995542>not every question you don't like is bait.This exact topic gets brought up regularly by the same fucking tranny with the exact same talking points every time and it always goes in circles.How about we don't indulge the tranny's bait m'kay?
>>573995068It's a valid complaint, accompanied by a valid argument. The answer is: Sweden.
>>573996131My character polished statues at a shrine world.
>>573995068swedish company>>573996131my character's origin quite literally states they're high born
I'm having a hard time coming off Flensing Protocols and giving the other keystones a chance.
>>573996253>>573996324Well you can take it up with someone at fatshark and ask why they did a complete 180 when they actually fleshed out the character backgrounds and dialogue.
>>573996407it's quite obviously a style choice because no one is conventionally pretty ingame
I like how the characters look besides a few faces, especially on the Hive Scum, who do not look human at all.
>>573996505Speak for yourself, I'm heckin cute and valid
>>573996131Making your player characters ugly is kind of counterproductive when they went with customized characters with the clear intent to profit off cosmetics.Guess it's just Fatshark being retarded as usual, they're not even selling the attractive customization options (thankfully).
>>573996131I miss her, I don't like the jeet ordering me around
>>573996772LEFTENANT
I am here to confess.After playing 100 Auric HI-STG / Maelstroms in a row on Skitarius, I went to play an Auric HI-STG on Veteran. I did no damage and was constantly downed as soon as the situation became intense.
>>573996772SAAR I AM REAL CADIAN SAAR
I wanna play chaos clicker... but I gotta head to work...
>40 min>3500 kills>4 leavers>16 deaths>mission is completed with two bots>the most common auric
>>573996505I would say rannick has a reasonably handsome appearance, it's mostly just the haircut.
>>573997476suave attitude too. He's surprisingly fun and fitting
Trying to play high havocs with party finder trash is such a shit experience, man. Night and day difference between that and a full premade sesh with the bros.
>>573997476>>573997556Personality wise lots of characters are attractive, and some of them have very pleasing voicesIt's just the models that are kind of awkward looking to my eyes, everyone is very "bulky and clunky" looking
>>573997726less obvious on men, the rugged look fits Morrow but then you got horrors like Zola
>>573996872As an ESL I find it super weird how it's pronounced like that.
>>573996707That's pretty much the only good female character face and hair
>>573997798That's because rugged men are considered attractive, whereas rugged women not so much.No offence to any rugged ladies.
>>573992580Viable yes, overpowered no.It's very nice to have a shield for gunners when you use shock maul or crusher as your primary. Special executes a strong push just like shield+maul push.But it can't exploit ammo pickups, arbites shotty generates a lot of free special ammo from ammo tins.If ammo isn't a concern, it's good for sniping and has good unyielding damage. It's A-tier and shotty only beats it because of ammo exploit.
>>573997947full offense to rugged chicks with Zola dyke haircut
>>573997476Rannick looks rogueish and like some sort of politician/official at the same time, so a pretty good look considering his position.
>>573997996Scars and stuff can look okay on women but it can't overtake their femininity. Unless you go all in like a female Wolfer or something.
>>573997972>It's A-tier and shotty only beats it because of ammo exploit.The shotgun also beams entire hallways, whether you aim it at shoulder level, or kneecap level (against groups of maulers). Nothing in arbitrator's ranged slot competes with it, as far as generic auric performance goes. The shield pistol is nice because it's a shield but you really feel the atrocious ammo in havoc.
>>573996357Try arc maul
>playing martyr zealot>someone puts healing shit in the elevatoraaaaaaieeeeeeeeeee
>>573997697i wish i had bros capable of playing havoc
What kind of build do you like on veteran?
>>573998275bolter power sword and kraks
>>573998182>you look hurt zealot, allow me to help!
Do adeptus mechanicus actually have sex or do they just do artificial stuff with the eggs and whatnot
>>573998275Boltgunmaxxing with both reload nodes at the top of the tree.
>>573998098Still A tier, it's like phosphor pistol but with a shield instead of debuff. Ammo economy isn't even bad, it's arbites shotty that gets stupid amount of ammo for free.
>>573998182Get some healing 'shouty
>>5739982753x stamina curios exe stance laspistol spamBut I can't take it to havoc because one poxburster deletes me
He was gay, inquisitor Grendyl?
>>573998492Is that for deadshit?
>never find any grimoirs>install a mod to give me a notification if there is one nearby>still don't find any, presumably I'm just not noticing the notifications in the mist of the chaos
>>573995068>But why did they make almost all the customization options so ugly?GW mandate.
>>573998710They don't show up in every mission. If you quickplay you may never find them. Select a mission manually and check the right side of the screen for extra objectives.
>>573998321Sex, cloning, but it's mostly just bringing more people in to continue the hustle.
>>573998747>If you quickplay you may never find them.Ah, that's it then. Fuck, I wouldn't ever have found one.
>>573998710They really fucked up with grims in Darktide, the maps are a lot worse to spot hidden things like that, there's so much visual clutter
>>573998275Shredder grenade with all grenade talents, lethal prox bolt pistol, flesh tearer knoife, piss toughness, ammo aura, base damage talents like superiority complex and skirmisher. Keystone optional but I tend to dip into wep spec.This shit does psyker levels of damage.
>>573998850Sometimes they're also tucked in retardedly far away corners of the map that nobody should ever be, that also happen to be almost perfectly out of view by being around a corner or two. For a lot of them you'd have to REALLY stare at an area to even see the green glow.It doesn't help that other shit glows green, like scab gunners' visors casting a green light.
>>573998902>This shit does psyker levels of damage.I've yet to see a grenade vet hit 3 million, let alone 5 million.5 is retarded and rare for psyker, too, but approaching 3 is very common and breaking 3 happens during needlessly dense and prolonged h40 runs.
>>573998974Yea everything is green, there's a lot of ambient green glows here and there so THE grim green glow is not going to stand out unless you already know it's there.
>>573999080Either I'm bad at psyker, you're hallucinating, or my havocs pace through the mission faster, because it's exceedingly rare that I hit 3mil.
>>573999080>approaching 3 is very commonwhat? I've never seen more than 2.
>>573999325I'd expect 2 mil during a reasonably fast paced run.This is assuming you acknowledge shriek + WS supremacy, and that the brittleness blessing is a dogshit meme.>>573999396Stop accepting bubblecucks
>>573997697>with the bros.must be nice having friends. couldn't be me.
>>573998275i shittermaxx with the flamer and shock maul>but what if blob of crushers and maulersidk you deal with it cya
Next class is a high lord of terra
>>573999641veteran has flamer now?
>>573999794
>>573999641>i shittermaxx Don't forget to brick your tree
>>574000534
>>573998275Smokes, exec stance and helbore. For H40.Aurics usually kraks, shout and combat shotgun.
>>574000534I'd accept you, with a build like this you're either complete dogshit or a one many army, and it'd be entertaining to find out which
>>574000734does executioner's stance regen while you're extending it? never used it because everyone always says you're retarded for bringing anything other than shoutis it like an actually valuable ability or are you simply bored and looking to gimp yourself
>>574000935NTA but exec stance is very strong and a good exec stance vet is great. You deal with shooters by shooting them dead before they get to shoot, instead of shouting, and it has a huge damage multiplier.Shout is generally better and has broader appeal.Trench shitters wipe without shout crutchie so they can't fathom stance being useful. Remember that most opinions about havoc are from trench shitters or salty ASSlets that got filtered.
>>574000935Some of the best carry gawds I have ever played with all used exec stance and some finesse weapon like the fast helbore.But those are generally crazy fuckers that have way too much time in the game to make it work
>>573999448>This is assuming you acknowledge shriek + WS supremacy, and that the brittleness blessing is a dogshit meme.Is this somehow a fringe opinion...?
>leveling psyker>at level 27 doing heresy>use revolver and whatever i want, just trying things out>some faggot skitarii bitches about my incomplete build>he's the worst one in the party and goes down every 2 minutes>ragequits and we finish the mission without issueIt's always the metafaggots that are the worst, it's the same in Vermintide.
>>574001352Have you played havoc? Something like 70% of psykers I see are bubblecucks, some 50% I see use the brittleness meme blessing on their staff, and even out of those that use the good shriek build, over half of all psykers are still dogshit players.Psyker may have the worst havoc players overall because it's such an easy auto-include, causing less diligent players to carry them beyond where they belong.
>>573995068Swedish DEI agenda
>>573998569yep200 shots magazine is mighty powerful
>>574000935>does executioner's stance regen while you're extending it?Yes, it works like scriers gaze
>it's another havoc sissy inventing enemies in his head because no one cares about his hyper specific dead game mode + his hyper niche opinionsbe better bozo
>>574001306did you remember the perks and blessings
What are your personal stereotypes about the player classes?
>>574001459Thanks for reminding me, I need to swap the shitty crit blessing (that doesn't make any difference even now when crashers became rare) back to brittlenessAt least 50% of psykers know what they are doing, sadly I don't see those in my havocs
>>574001946kys retard
>>574002014
>>574002075take your meds, schizo
>>573997697I only have one friend who plays havoc and he already plays with his other friends most of the time when he plays darktide.
Shan't accept you on my H10
>>573997697Biggest retards currently are skitarii.Just never invite them, just decline every single one.
>>574002402mean
The db shotgun and autogun cosmetics look cool. But I cant find a use for both weapons
>>574002402I have played with exactly 1 good skitarius player. That's 1 more than the number of decent arbitrator players I've met.
Switching from Skitty to Arby in my ASS run really made me realize just how much utility a Servo Skitty brings into the average Auric match.
>>574002819Arbitrator thankfully still has it easy. If you take all of the sources of passive (or over time) toughness regen + Forceful's stun immunity with the dog keeping your stacks up, you can brute force your way through most objectives before poxers break you out of Adamant Will, or deal any relevant damage to your health.
>>574002992Yeah the main benefit out of Arby was that I could not die, but I really fucking hated having to clutch and solo a Plague Ogryn while getting swarmed because apparently that monster in particular wipes Auric randoms (it happened thrice with 3 separate teams).
Does the game slowdown spawns when players go down/someone has to clutch, or is it just the gamer gene kicking in?
>>574003338>I really fucking hated having to clutch and solo a Plague Ogryn while getting swarmedGet yourself a Full Bore shotgun with unyielding on it, those are the best blessing and perk for both shotguns anyway since they let you 2-tap unarmored ogryns in the face. Gets you big boss damage as long as you aim for the weakspot. Make sure you have Soulguilt.Alternatively run a boltgun. I still think using it to magdump is fucking retarded, but arbitrator is actually the best class at doing so, and it's not half bad.
>>574003524Yes, it throttles the action based on number of living players. But don't let this give you a false sense of confidence, the waves are still very deadly.
>>574003579Man you really can't shut up with your retarded takesTake scattershot and sustained fire
>>574004064Are you going to make your 80 IQ troll replies to every piece of advice I give?Scattershot obviously goes on, but so does Full Bore. Strength is a better stat than damage, and is always active against monsters. I would sure hope you don't have trouble hitting every pellet on a single enemy every 5 seconds.You the same nigger that tried to argue you're not allowed to shoot gunners with the arc rifle?
>>574004210But this is my first reply to you, because you insist I misidentified you, my first reply must have been to a different retard!LmaoStrength is a better stat but it doesn't matter if you can't activate the blessing.If you are magdumping pogryns at point blank range, try using your melee.
>>574004579It's impressive how persistent, schizophrenic, and immensely retarded you are.Sorry newfriend, the resident schizo is having another meltdown. Best I can hope for is that actual explanations inform you enough to make an informed decision yourself, and that you can correctly identify this dumb faggot's hallucinations.>implying he can't hit all pellets every 5 seconds>favoring some dogshit damage over strength that has at best 50% uptime while firingActual real life retard.
>trapper shot at me while getting his spine sawed offI'm going to assume that was lag.
>>574004824Skill issue.I believe the first couple ticks of chain weapons biting don't actually trigger a stun animation yet. There's some slight delay before chain weapons do anything, and maybe the trapper got you in that window + latency.
Man why the swedoids don't give the first shot buff blessing for the hellbore
>>574004929>I believe the first couple ticks of chain weapons biting don't actually trigger a stun animation yet.I learned this when I first revved eviscerator a crusher in its head>haha stopped you>hold up, why isnt he stopping with his overhead?>diesyep
>>574004769I already got my ASS so I'm back to Skitty, but thanks for the Arby tips. Anyways, what's the difference between strength and damage?
>>574005308damage increases damagestrength increases damage, cleave, impact, stagger
>>574005008It's genetic.
>>574005308Strength stacks additively with itselfDamage stacks additively with itselfStrength and damage stack multiplicatively with each other (and some other stats)Arbitrator typically stacks a lot of strength. +20% damage doesn't translate to a 20% increase in damage, the math is not in your favor.Arbitrator typically doesn't stack strength high enough to overcome this discrepancy. In fact, strength isn't that easy to come by.Strength also increases cleave, which the shotgun is notoriously EXTREMELY GOOD AT, and you cannot possibly get enough of. You want more strength for more cleave on that thing, at all times. It's part of why Forceful is so broken with it in auric.
>>574005474>Arbitrator typically stacks a lot of strengthA lot of damage*, my bad.I'm typically at a near permanent +40% ranged damage, for example, and I'm probably forgetting another source.
>train mission>boss is just spamming barrier non stop>every time the barrier is down it explodes knocking me back>barrier againGod what an annoying fucking mechanic for a melee character.
>>574006391put your back against a barrier if possible
>>574006391>wedge self between boss and wall>rape it so fast it can't even finish the standing up animation
Backrooms: Escape Together or Escape the Backrooms?
>>5740068022nd one
>>574006983y tho?
>>574007013Simply because "escape together" sounds like it's for small children.
>>574007248Good point, unlike War Hammer, which is for big children
>>574007379Tau Yssy...
>>574003524it goes easy on you when all your teammates are dead until it gets disabled at some havoc levelwhich means it often makes more sense to deal with all the shit in play first and only then res your teammates. if at all. I've had cases when some shitter goes down repeatedly and we just ignore him for the rest of the mission after he dies
>I'm out of diamantine againthere are way too many weapons to collect...
>>574007379>Good point, unlike War Hammer, which is for big childrenExactly.I'm a big boy.
>>574007767Do you play havoc? The weekly rewards juice your plasteel and diamantine extremely hard.Like I'm literally at 1.2mil and 600k respectively.
>>573995068You're right but i have grown to like the disheveled, crackwhore look my Scum has.My headcanon is that she doesn't bathe unless forced to and rocks the hairiest jungle know to the imperium.Getting hard just thinking about it.AlsoBecause Sweden.
>>574008626Get help
>>574007987not him but you need to grind out all the meta weapons, builds and auric titles before you can even try havoc. that takes quite a bit of time and diamantine to do.
>can change your characters race for free>can't swap their 'body type' for free
Next class is hypnotau
Outlast update today https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iVMzxqKMz1k
>>574009306uhh based?
>>574009408still full of jumpscares?
>learned new combat shotgun tech>buildcrafting for vet>try out executioner's stance>activating it causes you to slap your gun for some reason>then I remembered it used to have an instant reload attached>they stripped the instant reload but kept the stupid gun slapping animationSWEEEEEEEEEEDEEEEEEEEENNNNNNN
>Finally unlocked all the skittles cosmetics>Except the fire skin for the servo-skullTrying to get this done is going to drive me crazy. It's faster/more efficient just to cut down the chaff with my blades.
>>574009670>find out I can 3-shot h40 crushers with it>realize after the fact that I didn't even have carapace on my gun>and no Bring it Down!>put on both>almost 2 tap itDamn, what is the vet loading this thing with
>>574009670John Darktide is a MESS
>>574009640Yes and naked people
>first time ever doing this mission>just going to throw this over but there's no way the game will let him catch it in the air right>he doesholy soul
>>573998321I'd imagine that sex and child-bearing are seen as suboptimal time-sinks or something and not done by anyone other than the lowest menial members of the cult.Instead they likely use artificial wombs, cloning, and old-fashioned proselytizing.
>>574010807The game engine has its ups and downs but at least most of the "downs" make for really funny bugs.
>>574009670need more info than some vague
>>574010807Yeah most missions that have this objective have ledges that are made with the purpose of passing the thing from below to make It faster. Most people dont cooperate tho so you Just end up running around like a dumbass
>>574011414Most shotgun reloads can be animation cancelled, which saves a split second between when you finish inserting the shell, and when the game allows you to sprint or fire.Animation cancelling the combat shotgun special reload saves more time than usual, and it's also possible to cancel the recoil animation.>fire (most likely special shell that you pre-loaded)>immediately swap away and back>load special shell>as soon as the ammo goes up by 1, swap away and backThis technically lets you fire faster than the game can internally reset recoil, so your bullet may come out above your crosshair if you time it too well.Most of the time save comes from One Motion and Tactical Reload.The crusher meme is just MF rending + Rending Strikes that I was messing around with to try and hit plasma one-shots and mauler two-shots. With piss vision.
>>574011463The generator mission thing in the big hole after the elevator is actually painful with randoms. They never throw the cans up, hobble around taking the longest paths possible and the whole section takes 15 minutes instead of like 2.
>>574010875Yeah considering all the body modifications I'd imagine most women can't even get pregnant, both because it just wouldn't happen and because it would probably conflict with mechanic parts to have their bellies expanding or something like that.
>>574009408That’s cool. Was kind of hoping for a Prime Asset but it looks like a neat romp.>>574007379Big men yes :).
>>574005474What about Power?
>>574007379The empire should just wipe these clowns off the galaxy along with every single xenofucker human who joined their side.
On the subject of theorycrafting vet, what further optimizations would vet players here make to this build?Assume One Motion + Tactical Reload are core to the build, to support the combat shotgun.Assume Rending Strikes and all of Marksman's Focus are core to the build, to hit breakpoints with the combat shotgun.I feel like I want either of the top shoulder nodes for more toughness generation, as that's usually my biggest worry with vet. On the other hand, piss vision is a constant trickle of toughness now so maybe not?Maybe trade Bring It Down! for Tunnel Vision to supercharge my piss vision toughness generation?I wonder if Born Leader may be worth it, but I don't really have a point to spare, and Demo Team is obviously non-negotiable.
>>573998056>>573997476Yes his design is very good all things considered>>573997947I look like that
>>574013446>One Motion + Tactical Reload are core to the buildThis just means this build is dead in the water because veteran is already starved for points to make him viable even without taking either of these nodes
>>574013662Yeah that's what I was thinking too. A bit unfortunate that I only have like 2 points to do anything with.
>>573991332>>573991270These are cool. Would be nice if we had some vehicles we could temporarily take control of during a mission sequence or something.>>573992545He’s right though.
>>573987842Idgi>>573988148>>573988653Cute
>>574007379Odds of them actually being a faction in total war? I know not at release obviously but further down the line as a DLC.
>>573994136make him to weirder what
>>573993632got his ass there
>>574011208Is it the same engine as vt2?
>>573993805More like Sexia>>573995068Same reason why we have one (technically two) pitch black Africans with the most overtly annoying accents possible
>>573994603Wouldn’t be surprising. That game is looking more and more unsalvageable. It’s been nearly 2 but there’s still very little improvement.
>>574014112Highly likely.They'll probably one of the most fun factions, too, if you enjoy micro. Getting the most out of Tau means optimally positioning your battlesuits and then having them jump out of the way before reprisal fire or enemy melee can kill them, in addition to having your markerlight units set up kills for heavy-hitter ranged units.
>>574009071>not him but you need to grind out all the meta weapons, builds and auric titles before you can even try havocYou don't need any of that to do havoc 20
>>574014720I don't know much about them so I have no idea how they fight or what sets them apart from everyone else, combat wise.
>>574013446Shotgun has like 1.4 finesse multiplier, focus target might be betterBut you probably take mf for rending I don't think it's possible to change anything else here
So any melee but the dueling sword, the power sword and tacaxe just dont work on high difficulties as veteran, am I right?
>>574014790>I don't know much about them so I have no idea how they fight or what sets them apart from everyone else, combat wise.Okay.>Tau units have lots of powerful ranged options, but middling individual shooting skills. Poor melee.>Drone units that support better units (either by improving their shooting at a specific unit or shielding them)>Jump-jetting battlesuits and hovertanks that are more mobile than almost everybody>Can use infantry gunlines with long range rifles or set their guys up as "breachers" with short range guns that annihilate up close (but if they don't kill what they shoot, they're getting charged and probably dying)>Kroot mercenaries have varying levels of staying power and melee effectiveness but are pretty much universally better in melee than Tau units
>>574015491the shovel and knife are good
>>574015491Shock maul and devils claw workTacaxe is a meme
>>574015591That's nice. I've been doing some looking around since I posted that and they apparently have gundams.I'm guessing they mostly fight orks and nidders? Can't imagine them fighting the empire much mostly because if they did I imagine they wouldn't exist anymore.
>>573998495No>>573998321They don’t usually have sex but we have a few examples of initiates engaging in it who haven’t been too heavily augmented yet
>>574013281Hey now, don’t knock the Tau pussy till you try it ;)
>>574016467Are you asking lore wise? They fight assorted threats that don’t bring to bear any major threat. The Imperium does fight them, but not with any substantial force either, and as a result they’ve lost several battles against them. They also have assorted other alien races like Vespids that are pretty much flying bug people things and abhuman groups like some Leagues of Votann guilds.
>>574015491all mele works, some are just harder to use
UP IN DA CLUB!
>>574016467>Can't imagine them fighting the empire much mostly because if they did I imagine they wouldn't exist anymoreThe Imperium tried to go for an "Easy Win" and wipe the xenos out around the time the Tau were doing their Second sphere of expansion (they're now on their fifth). It ended indecisively, which one would argue means it favors the Tau.https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Damocles_CrusadeAt this point, the Tau have gotten more advanced and better at long-range space travel. However, they're worryingly close to causing a mini-DAOT upon themselves.
>>574017340>but not with any substantial force eitherSubstantial enough to send Astartes at least, considering they fought the raven guard.
>>574018185>they're worryingly close to causing a mini-DAOT upon themselves.How?
>>574018406plenty of AIs, Tau indians
>>574018406Making Abominable Intelligences.If one of their AI's stops buying into the Greater Good, they're cooked.
>>574010115want help for this one? we can go private and I go tauntgryun
>>574013446>>574015247Which mark is the better one in the first place?
>>574006391It's skittles poking him with chord claw and prompting a fresh barrier
>>574018185I should add to this, the Imperium thought it would be an "Easy Win" with:>A fleet that was likely over 100 ships (including escorts and non-Navy Astartes ships)>A half-dozen astartes chapters partially or completely committed to the crusade>A Titan Legio>Several Guard regimentsAnd it turned out they still vastly underestimated the Tau's numbers and capability. I'm sure that to an Imperial's eyes, the only enemy that can equal the Tau's ability to build and expand would be the Greenskins. The Tyranids are more like fighting a force of nature so they don't really count there.
If I have blood in my poop do I worship Nurgle or Khorne? also should I see a doctor?
I wish the chainsword was a bit better considering this is a damn wh40k game and it's probably the single most recognizable weapon in the series alongside the bolter
>>574020470>A fleet that was likely over 100 ships (including escorts and non-Navy Astartes ships)>A half-dozen astartes chapters partially or completely committed to the crusade>A Titan Legio>Several Guard regiments>result inconclusiveThe T'au are pretty good.
>>574020786Good question. If there's more poop than blood, then nurgle. If there's more blood than poop, then khorne. For the doctor part the answer is yes. The urgency depends on the amount of blood. Unironically ask chatgpt.
>>574016467Most of their conflicts have been with the Imperium, and have been victories, actually. The nids are a much bigger threat to themThe tau killed a chapter master of the Raven Guard, which is more named character killing than the main antagonist (abaddon) has done lol
>>574020896The higher mark is great for mowing down poxwalkers, but that's about it.
>>574018406>>574018683It’s less an Age of Strife and more of a Heresy imo. Their AI is definitely dangerous and they’re very naive about it but the fact that their greatest hero has already betrayed and seceded from them is also pretty bad and more damaging.
I'm too fucking stupid to be good at anything
>>574020786Hemorrhoids.Go get suppositories for them from the pharmacy, they restrict the blood flow and heal the skin. Go to a doctor if it continues for a week or whatever.The suppositories are stored in a fridge so you probably need to ask from the pharmacist.It's like a stick of melting gel that you shove deep up your butt while lying sideways and then don't move for 45min or it all leaks out. Layer toilet paper around your underwear so it's not everywhere.Also wash your butt with the showerhead after pooping.
>>574021501They're naive about a bunch of things. Apparently before the Damocles Crusade which has been mentioned already in the thread they thought the galaxy was theirs for the taking and the only limitation was travel. And the empire thought it was an easy win like another anon said.After the crusade both sides realized "oh fuck these guys are actually a big deal"
>>573998710If you pickup a grim, then I will put in negative effort to rescue you.
>>574021783Why?
>>573997798There is a difference between someone looking rugged due to the rigors of their life, and someone looking like an incestuous meth baby. Zola could have looked pleasant in another life, but most of the character creator options would be ugly no matter what.
>>574019925I am only ever considering the slug one. Incendiary is kinda not great, spreadshot one is funny for memes and good enough to be worth using, but the slugs might be the best sniping tool vet has, which feels wrong but should be correct.
>>574021781They were actually a lot less naive than you'd think in regards to space travel - the first alien species they ever encountered after reaching the space age was the Orks, and they nearly went extinct because of them, inventing the pulse rifle as a means of overkill. Then they encountered orks, again, and then *again*, and they realized the galaxy was an extremely dangerous place, and that's why they're so eager to accept other species into their fold. Most of their naivete is instead about the warp, in which aspect they're a lot like the early imperium
>>574020786>>574021747Oh and don't strain while pooping. This is general advice too. Just empty what's loaded in the barrel so to speak.
>>574022262>there's at least one novel series about the t'au and their expansions and them getting genocided by orks and whatnotHonest to god there is so much in the way of novels in this franchise that I want to read I don't think I'll ever experience it all.
>>574021747This is like the third time /coopg/ became /hemorrhoidg/. Are we all uncs here?
>>574022579I am. I'm old and dumb
>>5740225794chan is all uncs in general
>>574020786Talk to your doctor and get a bidet toilet seat. One of the fancy Japanese ones with the ceramic water heater for endless heated water.
>>574021438Yeah, you can stack a lot of cleave on the thing but cleave isn't the only stat that matters. You have to be able to kill carapace/flak enemies occassionally and the best you can do to do that is apply bleed stacks with the rev, which is too finicky to attempt.
>>574020896You and everyone fucking else>chain sword, thunder hammer, and chain axe all dogshit>random prison shivs, combat knives, axes, and no-name mauls are top tier
Phosphor pistol is the best weapon in the game and you can't prove otherwise.
>>574022579I can't speak for anyone else but I recently got one from lifting. Also my poops just have terrible texture regardless of how much lettuce, fruits, and veggies I eat.
>>574024305The rumbler exists
>>574024001It used to apply all the bleed stacks on the first tap so you could dodge out of it. But kind Fatshark fixed it, so now you have to go through the entire rev attack to get all the bleeds :)You can make chainswords work well in Auric on Zealot with FOTF, because FOTF lets you one-shot crushers (i think). But you're still better off just taking the eviscerator in that case. Imo, all chain weapons should serious rending buffs to their rev attacks.
>>574021438At that point it's just a worse power swordHonestly it just needs some basic numbers tweaking to fix but chudshark is stupid
>>574014112High and I look forward to it but probably not very close to launch.I suspect we'll get chaos, sisters of battle, adpetus mechanicus and maybe even nusquats before we get tau. I imagine they'll arrive late like necrons and tyranids.
>>574024594>It used to apply all the bleed stacks on the first tap so you could dodge out of it. But kind Fatshark fixed it, so now you have to go through the entire rev attack to get all the bleeds :)I remember that. I sincerely wonder what went through their mind when they did this, because the thing didn't need a nerf.
Realistically, what is the strongest enemy they could throw at us in the game that we can actually win against without some stupid third party support or "they were injured after moving down 50000 people" bullshittery?
>>574025180Didn't read but I giggled at the image
>>574024861Eh, it was a janky interaction so I see where they were going with the change. Not so much with the lack of general support the weapon had balancewise though.
>>574025180Scabs in sentinels
>>574025180Chaos Marine
>>574024842Chaos is probably the low hanging fruit because they can reuse a lot of assets from the fantasy total war which already has all 4 chaos factions. Pretty much all of the demons should be the same, for instance. Though lore wise I'm not sure how would they justify all those demons outside of the warp.Mechanicus, Necrons and Nidders will probably arrive before T'au I think because T'au are a bit obscure in the general spectrum of things, meanwhile those 3 are iconic so they should bring more people.I'm not sure sisters of battle would be an entire exclusive faction
>>574025765>Though lore wise I'm not sure how would they justify all those demons outside of the warpThey don't really need to in the same way it's almost impossible for daemons to exist long term in the mortal world in warhammer fantasy outside of exceptional conditions but you can still just march your daemon armies around anywhere you want in total war warhammer.
>>574025180A Plaguebearer of Nurgle>>574025765>Though lore wise I'm not sure how would they justify all those demons outside of the warp.It would be like asking for a lore reason why the Empire has more than 13 Steam tanks, or why the Dwarfs are actually coming back and clearing their grudges.
>>574025561LmaoA chaos marine would wipe his ass with the rejects
>>574026136Chaos Marines job to guardsmen all the time, they're not anything special
>>574026042>plaguebearerYou mean Great Unclean One? Plaguebearers are low tier fodder daemons
>be me>finally make psyker>grinding early levels still in malice>quickplay into game with all psykers>refinery delta>get to the mid favela section where plague ogryn spawns>everyone else dies>spend like 4 minutes figuring out how to fight the plague ogryn with the laspistol devil's claw and those rock projectile things>solo the plogryn and all the trash in that bottom pit arena>open door>rager crowd>panic and spam the projectiles at them>head explodesand I thought I was done with the hard part
>>574025180At this point we could probably throw out enough damage to reasonably kill a chaos knight. The rejects are disgustingly overpowered for what they are.
>>574018185>>574020470>>574021781Their FTL is still probably the worst in the setting though so that’s another thing that cucks them out of being a major player.>>574022262Ehh, their alien interactions have been short sighted too. There’s stuff like them readily trusting the Dark Eldar even after knowing that the galaxy has nasty stuff in store for them and that they should be cautious and of course getting a lot of their population kidnapped because of it. They’re way better now though, and it’s ironically because they’re behaving in a very similar manner to the Imperium in certain approaches.
>>574026136laughs in ogryn
>>574022860>>574022723>>574022579I’m only 24 wtf……..
>>574026564It's pretty slow but at least they don't need to worry about an army of daemons just manifesting on their ships if something's wrong with the gellar fields or navigators(neither of which they use).
>>574026136An individual nameless chaos marine is a lower threat that a plague ogryn, chaos spawn, beast of nurgle, and daemon host.
>>574026736Your diet probably sucks.
>>574026423>Plaguebearers are low tier fodder daemonsMakes sense since that’s mostly what we’ve been fighting
>>574026216They are very much something special. That said obviously enough massed fire or getting into melee with an Ogryn is going to end badly for most of them.
>>574026739>if something's wrongHow common is warp fuckery anyways, whenever I read about warp travel something DOES go wrong, even if it's minor
>>574026736aaaw you a little baby
>>574027056I think it's relatively uncommon for anything actually relevant to happen considering how often and widespread war travel happens in the empire. Obviously we would know more about the times in which it did go wrong, not about all the other 200 in which the same vessel warp travelled with no relevant issues.
>>574027056Actually very uncommon with a diligent crew and stable navigator unless the chaos gods themselves have a personal interest in you specifically.Most people who make a living on voidships that regularly use warp travel will have merely heard stories of warp travel disasters until the day they die.
>>574026762There’s way too many variables in the strength of all those things for that to really be true
>>574026736>Missed twin towers and Two TowersCouldn't be me
>>574027198>>574026889I’m not blood stool guy btw>>574027457Did you have fun there?
How are the dakka capabilities of the ogryn? I want to play as the big guy if his guns are good and fun too
>>574027386Basic bitch space marines, and their traitor counterparts, simply are nowhere near as powerful as you think that they are.
>>573997904I like the shorter hair variant because you just know she fucks like a beast. It's almost a rule that pixie cut (or shorter) chicks are the biggest goers in the sack, like they got something to prove.
>>574027812They are maximal. Ogryn is the best shooty class, competing with psyker. The weapon selection can get weird at times, and the twin stubber isn't as good as you would wish it to be, but it's solid and strong in auric. The recent buffs have made it overpowered in my opinion, although rumbler and gauntlet are more to blame for it than the ability those builds use.
>>574027581Your diet probably still sucks.
>>574027859Not the guy you were replying to. That guy probably does have a confused idea of how strong they are but you’re going in the opposite direction. Point still stands.
>>574028679The average secondary's opinion of space marine power level is more in line with chapter master/primarch power level.
>>574027812You get toughness back simply from spinning your tf2 minigun and half of the 12 seconds is free
>>574029129Even basic grunt marines are still wearing armor that weighs enough to crush a regular person. They are still shooting guns with a recoil so strong it would break a regular human's arm if they tried to shoot it.And that's gear. Not even talking about them as individuals. Nameless footsoldier or no, they are most definitely on an entirely different scale to 4 rejects, assuming they are actually geared for combat and not naked. Add nurgle fuckery on top of that.
>>574029595And they topple to one plasma gun shot. The tertium 4 have more than enough firepower to steamroll a space marine. They are much less significant threats than the fucking daemons that we routinely mulch.
what is a secondary?
>>574030140a step above a tertiary
>>574026912Beasts of Nurgle are kind of mid-tier.
>>574030140It means larper lil' bro
>>574027860>the shorter hair variantWhich hairstyle is that?
>>574030140primary audience, engages with the game directly. plays the tabletop and/or purchases models, army books, etc.secondary audience, engages in secondary media but not the primary. books, video games, animated series, etc.tertiary audience, does not engage in primary or secondary media, only in third hand knowledge. memes, wikis, youtube videos, random loreposting on the internet, etc.
>>574031210I would argue someone who has read several books knows quite a bit more in general than someone who just paints miniatures and rolls dice.
>>574031330this is why no one respects secondaries.
>>574031681That makes perfect sense though so just giving a shitpost reply without actually arguing actually fits well.
>Tabletopbabs calling anyone else secondary lole.
wow i got fucking owned
>>574032418spilled your spaghetti everywhere too
is there any weapon less satisfying to use than the flamer
>>574032734boltgun
>>574032734Shovels and mauls.
>>574031330sure but most secondaries don't read even books either and usually just play the games, watch animations and then watch youtube shorts or read reddit summaries of them
>>574026736>I’m only 24Anon...
>>574033441Fair enough.
I started with veteran and later tried out zealot which I stuck with. Zealot was way more fun.What class should I try next when I'm max level? I also have hive scum and arbites dlc
>>574029835Space marines have tanked way more firepower than plasma fire. >>574030453They can be depending on a number of factors. Otherwise they’re daemonic beasts which are the bottom rung.
>>574022579Like my gramps always told me.You're not a real man unless you have had a couple of hemorrhoid during your short time on earth.
>>574034512siktari
>>574031330>>574031886One can play the game and read the books, it's not an either/or thing.The problem comes from those who try to argue from a perspective where their baseline is the named protagonists of heroic fiction. You'll see this often when they balk at the concept of the average space marine dying to anything that can actually kill a space marine.Even in the fiction, the average unnamed space marine dies quite a bit to many things, but some of those people will dismiss it as being "inconsistent" despite it being consistent with the primary source whereas the actual inconsistency is the heightened feats of the protagonist (but that's just what protagonists do so it's not a problem for anyone.)
>level 1800 ogryn gets trappered on a dropdown and blames his team
>>574035094>he had 2 skitarii teammates and neither one of them used the skull to help himI bet.
any tips for making this as painless as possible? it's my last vet penance and then i'm done with this boring class
>>574035741Mortis trials, throw them at enemy spawns?
>>574035741like many of the old penances, just use it wrong. Slap a grenade down on every horde you see
>>574035705he had one skitter teammate who had the skull but died to bursters before him. In fact i joined mid run and all i'd seen this skitter do was die to bursters and he still blamed the team as well
>>574035741That is not painful at all. Just play the game and throw smokes down at your feet when you encounter a horde.
who was in the wrong here? me on the left btw
>>574036117>unreadable default scoreboard>fuckloads of useless stats and arbitrary ones that have nothing to do with actual performancefaggot
>>574036117>0 boss damageShitter
>>574034980For example >>574034527 's refusal to accept that weapons like plasma guns are more than capable of killing a space marine without needing any kind of "one in a million shot to a weak point in the armor". Just *boom* plasma fire goes in through the front of the armor and right out the fucking back. Other weapons that can, quite trivially, defeat power armor and kill the marine inside include things like >Power swords >thunder hammers >force swords >melta guns >krak grenades >psyker powers
>>574035741high intensity and just throw into the pox hordes
>>574036736melta beats everything
>>574036830Melta loses to range
>>574036736>>Power swords >>thunder hammers >>force swords >>melta guns >>krak grenades >>psyker powersAny marine hit by these will just dodge it before the reject shitter even gets close.And even if they manage to land a hit, the marine will just instantly shrug it off and then shoulder check the reject shitter in square in the chest cracking their ribs + spine.Also all of this is entirely assuming the marine will get anywhere near the reject shitters in the first place and wouldn't just shoot every single one of them down from 500+ meters away with his boltgun anyway. Headshotting all of them, insta killing every single one.
>>574037007Here he goes again acting like every single basic bitch tactical marine is a Greek god of war like the fucking Primarchs. Marines don't just dodge plasma gun fire like the damn matrix.
>>574036880range loses to legs
>>574037007if we put any marine from talasa and veridian (sm2) into darktide they just dodge INTO the rejects and turn them into mist
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>574036117Wtf are these low ass numbers for elite kills/blocks etcWas this malice
I think the only thing I would change about the power sword (veteran) is making its activation animation work like a block like with the transphobic blades
>>574036763>>574037672it was an auric histg and i joined mid run, probably only played for about 10 minutes before it all fell apart and me and the zealot were getting yelled at by the other two
>>574037462The space marine fears the cultist sniper
Do people still play VT2?
>>574037874which is basically a helbore because it takes them 4 seconds to shoot you
>>574032314It's infuriating when these retards talk like their tabletop shit has any bearing on the games or canon powerlevels
>>574037964yes
>>574020786It depends on how dark the blood is. If the blood is dark then go to the doctor
>>574020786You are very obviously a chosen agent of chaos undivided. The warp gods are fighting for your tribute. Do NOT see a doctor. Doing so would squander your chance at unlimited power.
>>574036736Show 5 examples of what you’re saying happening. Plasma guns are not rare. This should not be difficult for you to do.
Seriously wtf with /coopg/ and hemorrhoids
>>574036736Space Marine armor can resist heavy bolter fire which is at the very least comparable to all of those things minus melta.>"Kohl and Ephrial exchanged fire with them, dropping several with well-aimed shots. A burst of heavy bolter fire answered them, stitching the two Astartes with a stream of shells. Both warriors staggered beneath the hits, but their armour turned aside the blows.">>574037007This is also just true. Space Marines are not immobile tanks. They can dodge things way faster than most people are even capable of realizing, including plasma fire that moves at supersonic speeds (minimum), and this was done by a Tech Marine who’s heavier and carries more things than the average Marine. >”Amaru sprinted from the corridor firing, Maion close behind him. 'Fall back to the missile silo.' The Techmarine dropped to one knee to avoid a plasma round, the arms of his servo-harness whirring as they turned to return fire. The Chaos plasma gunner died in a heartbeat, dissected by the merciless cutting lasers."
>doubling download that carapace and tank killing weapons cannot kill muhreens
>Arbiter is still the only one who can stun green enemies with his abilitywhy?
>>574039843>this is them dodging the plasma round instead of reacting to the chaos marinetypical powerscaler nigger
Does Block Cost Reduction reduce the stamina cost of the Devil's Claw parry?Without mods, I cannot test in the psykhanium.
>>574040223That would be for you to prove
>>574040283Block Cost reduction will help reduce the cost of imperfect parries, which is helpful when you have a lot of things swinging at you.Perfect parries are already at the effective reduction cap, and receive no additional benefit.
newfag heream I right to assume toughness damage reduction is better than toughness replenishment?
>>574040420Stupid russian
>>574040571At higher difficulties, you're gonna want to avoid taking toughness damage at all, but generally... yes, reduction is better.
So unironically, how do you use the plasma gun?Am I supposed to consistently charge it for everything and only maybe take it out for really tanky enemies, meleeing basically every other enemy?It feels weird as fuck to use for me sorry bros
>>574041195If you can't figure it out, use the exploding mark and fire only charged shots at big problems, whether that's a monster or a ball of armor that needs knocking over.
>>574037007>Any marine hit by these will just dodge itNah. Marines on have a 3+ save.
>>574040476it's for you to prove that he can dodge them in motion, it's ambiguous and thus can't be used as evidence either waybut PLENTY of times, space marines have both been hit by plasma, and died from boltgun rounds
>>574041195>only maybe take it out for really tanky enemiesPretty much, but if you can line your shots up right, you can cleave shots through hordes as well just as you would with the bolter
>running up to pack>atomic missile hisses past my head and explodes everything
>>574041969this is why you should take grenades for yourself
>>574041195Original mkII, use regular shots most of the time. Use the charged shot to hit things through walls (best combined with a way to see enemies through walls) or alpha strike a patrol.Optimised Cooling (which is actually a heat reduction) combined with Focused Cooling will let you get ~15 shots off before needing the vent.I'm quite enjoying it on the Skitarii ranged build removing the need to reload it.
Should I make my ogryn tall or short? Does it even matter
>>574043026Making them short makes it easier to hit weakpoints in melee with sweeping attacks, making him tall makes it easier to shoot specials over crowds of poxwalkers
>>574041581The prose is pretty clear in its meaning and there are plenty of times where they’ve dodged projectiles moving at comparable speeds as well. There are more instances than just that., but yes, there have been times where they’ve been hit by both, so it really comes down to which interpretation you prefer.
>>574042780>Use the charged shot to hit things through wallsuhh has this always been a thing?
>>574043116Mhhh, I haven't played Ogryn yet but he is also melee focused isn't he? Then short would be smarter?
>>574041581>>574043273Main characters basically have superpowers for plot reasons, marines that are unnamed and wearing their helmets go by tabletop rules.
>>574039829Lots of sitting
>>574043423Yes. It's a big selling point of the plasma. Murdering those specials before they even poke their heads out their holes.
>>574043437Pretty much, but there's also a niche case where being tall can let you hit bulwark heads over the shield with strikedown attacks
>>574044085What fucking character is this supposed to be
Skitarii is the best class in the game. That is all.
>>574044453Why?
>>574044321Lurk moar
>>574040571They are equally good.
>>574044321John Fatshark himself, show some respect!
>>574037234>like every single basic bitch tactical marine is a Greek god of warBecause they are.Only times marines ever lose to some dipshit guardsmen is purely because the author dictated it to happen. Aka the guardsman has plot armor.
>>574044893>>574045012Gay
>>574045106Marines lose to guardsmen literally every Friday at and given hobby shop in the world.
>>574046021Warhammer tabletop and warhammer lore are different settings entirely. They have no relation to each other besides name and aesthetic.
Krak grenades are used for destroying tanks. A space marine would go down to them rather easily.
>anti marine shitters getting high off their own farts then getting TROUNCED by facts and logicclassic
>>574043423The uncharged shots can also go through thin walls, I do not know by how much charging it increases it.
So the best way to derail the thread is to start army shitflinging, right? Noted.
I found him
>>574029595Sorry bub your posthuman warrior who's been alive for 200 years just died to Big Beezer and Da Boyz who clubbed him to death with rocks.
Finished all the vet penances, now all that's left is arbites and about 50 games of skitter and hscum
>you can send your pet to go kill snipers while you're downed nice
>space marine dies on the tabletopTHAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE LORE>space marine dies in the loreTHAT DOESN'T COUNT, WHAT KILLED HIM WAS FAR BEYOND A SPACE MARINE>space marine dies in the lore to alien gruntsNO I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A REGULAR HUMAN>space marine dies in the lore to a regular humanOH YEAH WELL *explosively shits self* TRY ARGUING YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS *begins throwing it at you*
>>574046420Darktide is based on Warhammer tabletop so pls fuck off now
>>574047364>power scaling for tabletop marines is lowerSo what you're saying is that there's a chance we get a space marine class?
>>574046420marines lose to guard in a full scale war. even if it takes a lot of heavy firepower and casualties the numbers just aren't there.
>>574047817>old space marine who spent the last couple hundred years on atoma dragged out of retirement to settle some grudges with the cultists who ruined his peacekvno
>>574048224Space marines don't retire, they die, or they become dreadnoughts and then die
>>574047817Probably not. But we will almost certainly get a CSM monstrosity if fatshit decides to stop being lazy sw*des.
>>574048363they can also go rogue and die. But it's frowned upon, with death
Did they fuck with the hounds I'm sure they're like... hitting me before they usually do or something. It's like they used to 'hang' in the air for a moment before I actually got pounced but now it feels like the opposite sometimes, like I'm disabled before they even jump or something. Feels weird.
>>574048363Warhammer is about making Your Dudes(TM) and fatsharks donut steel dudes take summer vacation on Atoma.
>>574047817Somebody has floated the idea of a beginning space marine recruit jumping in but that seems unlikely with a conflict that’s over an important planet (according to Grendyl)
Game needs ratlings with innate -threat and big backstab bonuses
>>574046429https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hD3KBwoiAskip to about 2:30
>>574049667He rolled a 5.
>>574045106>NOOOO YOU CAN'T BEAT MY HECKIN SUPERHERO MARINERINOS!! YOUR POWER LEVEL IS TOO LOW!!!!!!!!!
>>574049667>scene immediately after is a space marine getting ganked by two Hormagauntsnot so tough and fast now
>>574049667Damn. He face tanked that shit too. Impressive.
10 years ago 40k lore used to be the most fun topics on this website.Today 40k lore is quite possibly the gayest topic.
>nooo marines only die in video games it doesn't countDarktide is a video gameSorry what's the problem?
>>574048363Some guys do "retire" by way of promotion to a job that doesn't require them to be fighting. Someone has to "guard" the Chapter's homeworld, right? Maybe oversee recruitment elsewhere depending on how they recruit. Ensure that logistics and needs of the chapter are properly being met. Act as an emissary for the chapter. Etc. Etc. These dudes exist, they are mentioned frequently if you think about what they actually do, they just don't have books dedicated to them because it's hard to make a story focused on that sort of thing.
what do we think
>>574051063ogryn shock maul CANNOT be that good
>>574050910>it's hard to make a story focused on that sort of thing.>not just a retired detective story finding problems and solving them>except its a space marineits really not, sure with would cliched but its not that hard
>Titus can die to grots in SM1>Titus can die to cultists in SM2>Marines can die to guardsmen in DoWOkay>Marines can die to ogryn/skitarii/psyker/guardsmen in Darktide (they kill literal daemons btw)Not okay
>>574050693Space Marines are repeatedly getting fucked by necrons now that they have started to wake up properly, even Rowboat Girlyman totally underestimates their strength and ends up getting most of the first part of the Indomitus Crusade Fleet annihilated. And this even before the Plague Wars in Ultramar.
>>574051063I finally tried the devil's claws on my new psyker character and now I wish there was some way to have damnation or auric intensity but with malice enemy type distribution, so that I can fight large numbers of soft targets and have fun with the choppy chop sword and dakka dakka gunsinstead it's all fucking flak and carapace so you can't bring the actually fun weapons
>>574051063I would 100% always rather have paired blades over either combat knife on skitarii.I don't think the Mechanicus sword is very good at all. The moveset is awkward and you can't move quickly while holding a charged special attack, taking away a lot of its utility.
>>574051479That’s changed though. He now recognizes their strength and has given his blessing to Cawl to try to reverse engineer their tech despite all the heresy that necessitates. Of course the necrons even in their shattered state are overall superior to imperial forces in general.
>>574051479>silent king striking a poseWhat a gigachadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfyUSB_UJJU
>>574051431Realistically if we did get to fight a CSM it would be a reskinned captain/twins fight
>>574051892>That’s changed though. He now recognizes their strength and has given his blessing to Cawl to try to reverse engineer their tech despite all the heresy that necessitates.Fuck I hate modern 40GAY so much
>nooooo the random crackhead convicts who regularly slaughter multiple daemons per mission would heckin NEVER EVER be able to kill a spess muhreen
You guys are STILL arguing about this?
>>574051063>deimos lower than force greatswordsGod, he's such a fraud.
>>574052368Makes you wish for the heady days of Matt Ward's fanwank doesn't it?
>>574051063>devil's claws in mid tierI love them and they are my weaponfu but no, they are not in a good place right now. Weak Tier at best.
Daemons are not universally impressive or powerful they’ve been killed by everything at this point so that’s not impressive by itself
>>574052350That would be grim.
>>574052402We're just looping back around to how Fatshart fucked up and had no real clue what they wanted the power level of this game to be.What's funny is that enemies die easier in this game than they do in Space Marine 2.
>>574052402It'd be pretty cool if they threw a death guard plague marine up against us and went all in on power scaling them past current monstrosities. Literally just make them the biggest threat to a run imaginable, I won't be happy unless the whole team has a collective Oh Fuck moment when the sound cue for one starts.
>>574051892You do get they are constantly foreshadowing Guilliman's arrogance will lead to his actual death or his corruption right? There's no way there is a 'happy ending' for the regent, he's already concerning people around him by taking the speculation of his own godhood seriously, being reliant on the eldar for both his armor/their prophetic abilities, and the Remembrancer Fabian finding the secret history of Imperium Secundus which could seriously imperil his position with the already strained relations with the custodes and highlords of terra.
>>574052542also the ones we face are shitty, half baked ones
>Hive scum zooming trough the level at ultra speed"Peaked in Auric" energy lmao
>>574052660Like fucking father like fucking son>Guilliman is the Avenging Son, the first aspect the Emperor took on
>>574052576for a realistic space marine encounter you just get your head exploded without warning because they rely on superior tactics, speed, reflexes and aim before anything else. if you can actually nail one with a heavy weapon or krak grenade he's still fucked but the point is he's better at warfare than you so 99 times out of 100 he'll get the drop on you and make it countthat's why powerscaling them is retarded. yeah in a straight up fight a space marine with a regular ass bolter loses to a lascannon-equipped leman russ. but they're not standing out in the open and waiting to be shot, they're elite shock troops who rely on speed and violence of action to not give their enemies any chances.
>>574053115I don't care about any of that autistic shit, I just want the game to have more spectacle.
Why do they have to wake up the Demonhost everytime?
>>574053115Which is why a hypothetical marine boss-fight should have the guy be a plague marine, or perhaps even a Nurgle daemon-possessed marine.
>>574053115Sure but we'd be facing a CSM, who at the best of times are not entirely sane. And they can make up any number of bullshit reasons for why he decided to show up and monologue at you before fighting
>>574053325>he sounds wet and rancid>color spectrum turns greener the close he gets>start hearing whispering>flies buzzing and shuddering steps as he approaches>he's slow to move and turn but if he gets a bead on you he can fuck you up pretty fast
>>574052660What does that have to do with anything I said? It’s still true that he understands the threat they’re up against. I’m also pretty sure Guilliman has had minimal contact with the Eldar, he isn’t really “reliant” on them for much of anything really even if he maintains a cordial contact with the Ynnari/Eldrad
>>574053115A "realistic" encounter with a single poxwalker includes immediately catching superAIDS and vomiting up your intestines. Please commit suicide, you stupid tertiary nigger.
>>574053701What do you think about Sisters of Battles and should they be the next dlc class?
>>574053701uhh, no. the emperor protects me, heretic
>>574034980There’s enough impressive showings that they can be argued to be the average in the fiction. They aren’t invincible of course but they’re certainly frequent enough that they’re formidable and clearly not the Guardsman adjacent infantry some here seem to be imagining them to be. Talking about and trying to bring the tabletop into the conversation muddles things because they’re very much different things due to one having to be fair and balanced and the other being able to show these things without these concerns as >>574039843 has shown. That’s why you should specify whichever you’re talking about.
>>574053805Dont care for them but yes, if fatshark likes money.
>>574051063I'm used to power maul being wet noodle-tier. Was the buff really that good?
>>574054096They wouldn't make a lot of sense in this setting
Skitarii should look like this (male gender locked)
>>574053870the problem is that retards like >>574053701 do not understand the concept of special forces or elite troops or shock troops. they can be both utterly dominant in certain types of scenarios and still vulnerable to weapons that are common in the setting.delta force will absolutely rape just about any kind of regular military on the planet when they're staging a surprise raid operation with clear goals and limits, and they will get shredded by regular flip flop durkas with DShKs if they get caught with their pants down in the open trying to assault a trench over open ground or some shit
>>574052402>Bro, I love Power leveling! I love tossing any context out the window just so I can close my eyes and pretend I'm arguing cartoon characters at recess again!Please.
>chasing boss attacking someone else>it keeps staggering me backwards even though it's attacking in the complete opposite directionwhy did they do this, just to make sure meleeing bosses is no fun unless you have the aggro?
I don't wanna be a party popper, but our rejects are all named characters and can be helmetless, so they could kill scores of Chaos Space Marines with no issue whatsoever.
>>574054146slightly less optimal damage, but much stronger gimmick and more convenient for most people who didn't like constantly activating it. Its ability to bowl over Crushers and clear out chaff in one blow (even on a 10 second cooldown) gives it a solid get out of jail free card, especially for ranged builds that don't have all the melee protections
>>574052528Two things can be bad but it was unironically better back then yeahEven the Grey Knights murdering sisters to use their uncorruptible sainted blood on themselves is at least grimdark instead of le epic superheroes
>>574054516Yup. Gotta learn the patterns and dodge diagonally if you want to get some hits in
>>574054668sigh>re-equips the laspistol
>>574054579>lvl 12 veteran named Dickot with a green catachan sword and a helbore lasgun
>>574054780unironically could kill greater daemons
>>574054780honestly he does have that dog in him
>>574054630Knights of Blood was on par with Goto's level of stupid though. I do wonder if the current trend is because of GW going for the lowest common denominator or if they are just going with it due to the boost in popularity
>>574051063I think it's wrong but the quality is too low to distinguish all the marks
>mission where you have to ride the elevatore down into the area where you have to deliver the 3 cryo rods>the other 3 fuck off to the "waiting area" and don't fucking help me at all with the rods>2 of them go down>finish my delivery of the second rod then head over to them>psygger didn't bring a bubble so we fold to 2 snipersyeah I should have dropped everything to pick them up instantly but jesus christ it's an objective-based game HELP WITH THE FUCKING OBJECTIVES
>>574051265Sounds like you haven't used it anonIt's great
>>574051265It is. Its special attack also benefits from the talent that makes your explosions larger/igniting.
>>574055301you would be amazed how many people can't read and think that doors are triggered by kiling enough poxes
>playing videogame>daemonhost spotted>every character screams "DO NOT WAKE THE DAEMONHOST">???>someone shoots the daemonhostwhy?
>see tagged enemy>attack it>other players get upset at me for waking a demon or something
>>574051063Thoughts>No reason for the Pickaxes to be in different tiers. They are all good.>Blue TacAxe is just as good as brown TacAxe.>Obscurus Force Sword is only a little bit worse than Deimos. >Club Mk1 is only a little bit worse than Club Mk3b>Shivs Mk3 isn't that much weaker than shivs Mk1>I don't like your tier names.
>>574054096Fatshark doesn't like money. They have shown that to be the case over and over. They care about doing just enough to keep the lights on. You can line up almost every instance of them doing something that the player base actually wants following a period where they did something the playerbase didn't want and so they aren't making enough money to keep the lights on. Look at how poorly the Scum sold compared to the Arbites. It did bad, it didn't make them enough money, so they sighed and probably cursed us all while claiming to know better than we do and created the Skitarii. Since the Skitarii assuredly outsold both the Arbites and Scum combined, they now have enough money to go do something retarded again, ignoring the playerbase. Whether or not you want it, the player base wants Sister of Battle as a class. Luckily for you, because they fucked up so badly with Scum, you won't see SoB for at least a year when they are starting to go broke again after whatever retarded class they release next is received poorly and they continue to work on Mortis and Expeditions (as we know they are dedicated to doing). Three retard moves in a row, worryingly low player count, and the Skitarii money is gone. Time to push out the SoB!
>>574055301the mission always gets completed somehow they just stand there and beat the poxies coming out the door and occasionally die to a ragerwhy would or should they learn anything if they get rewarded for their current behavioral pattern
>>574053241Is it anyone, or Ogryns?
>>574056176To this day I don't understand why they chose hive scumA billion more interesting things to consider and they picked the most unremarkable one
>>574053241I do it every time but I also play rumbler ogryn so they die before they do anything
>>574056176You made a rock solid case. Inquistorial Scibe confirmed?
>>574052660>Believing GW will get rid of one of their best selling models, beloved primarchsloppa, or follow up on hints given in any of the books everLook, I wish it were true, I think there's ways it could be done in an interesting manner, but it's just not gonna happen. GW will give hints but nothing will come of it until they can quietly move on
>>574056429Because they were lazy and needed something to keep people occupied in between updates and it was just low effort enough
>>574055858>playing videogame>have the option to play on easy difficulty>choose to play on hard difficultySome men climb mountains, others ask why.
>>574056770>>574055941I understand now anonsI will blast the next daemonhost I see
>>574056429Necromunda is KINO and scum is a lot of fun, but it's not memelore enough for people to buy it, alas
>>574056429Skitty was absolutely next, but I assume because of GW reasons, they had to sit in alot of meetings. But that obviously took too long, so they went "Hey, we're in a Hive, people have heard of Necromunda right?"In any case, it's a stop gap. But problem is, it's Warhammer, so anything that isn't Space Marines, IG, or Sisters get's the turbo nerds seething.
>>574056825Even better, if you can YON BARREL a teammate into it you get to have all the fun of fighting a DH without having to worry about doing the kiting yourself
>>574057207um ackshully I wish they introduced an eldar classhowling banshee would be kino, and they need the kerillian
>>574056176There is an interview with someone senior at Fatshark, talking about DLC classes, from before any were released. Speaking in vagaries he said:>they had a short list of 3>the one the team was most passionate about was planned to be released first>but GW instructed them to move another one to the 1st releaseWe now know what those 3 classes were. Scum was the team's passion and Arbites was GW's desire.I don't think they are going to stop at 3 DLC classes, they are simply too profitable, but they are done with their short list now.
>>574056665No I think they'll make new models of him, just corrupted more than likely.
>>574057353>>574057346fatshark should do an inquisitor class. a psyker but in power armor and with zealot tier melee tanking ability
>babysit 2 mouth breathers who are really struggling >"thanks ogre" from the other guy when we win
>>574056429Whichever fucking leader at fatshart has a hardon for "REJECTS!!!!!!!!!" probably spearheaded hive scum.
Guys, I went to the Fatshark office!No one is here.
>>574057902:D
>>574058241We know Sven, they're all on summer vacation.
>>574058241How did you dig trough all the snow?
>>574057207How hard people were seething about Hive Scum coming out instead of some random shit that has no reason to even be on Atoma was funny.>>574057207Makes sense, they have the most lore relevance for being there out of all 3 DLC classes. Arbites is a pretty close second though. >>574057965It's a big setting. It doesn't all have to be jerking off over power armor or whatever.
>>574058241>Anon was found later, dead,probably robbed and raped by Swedish engineers
>>574058241You should ring the doorbell and leave a flaming bag of dogshit by the door.
>>574057854The Grendyl class is totally coming soon buddy trust me it will come complete with a holographic head and everything>>574058241Why are you in Sweden
>>574058241>No one is here.Sounds about right
>>574058459>"Damn those indians are fast, I just sent an order for the next cosmetic rotation like 5 minutes ago"
>>574058392I think it was only a handful that cared enough to seethe about it. Others were in a mix of "Oh!" and "Eh.". Me, I gave it a chance and the leveling was fucking awful. But once I maxed out my Scum I had a good time.Arbitest and Scum do make better sense for where we're fighting at. But Skitarri is there for the fans and I get it and won't complain. I'd only shake my head if they did do something Space Marine related because it just means Fat Shark and GW caved to the loudest nerds. Sisters of Battle I wouldn't MIND, but I don't want it to just be L4D with the whose who faction types of the Imperium of man, just to appease that one 60 year old super nerd that finally got The Praetorian Guard to make a cameo
Is Skitarii any good? Is it worth it? I skipped Hive gang
>>574059005you should get hive scum first
>>574059005The servo skull is arguably the best blitz in the game
>>574059005It's fine, reasonably strong class that isn't absurdly OP like Hives Cum. If you like their flavor of robomancy and shitting lightning everywhere they're worth it.
versus mode when
>>5740595081v4 director mode when
>>574059508>>574059556Why isn't there a fucking 1v4 mode where it's just like a RTS where you place enemies and watch people go through the map.
>>574059684Because that would be kino. Fatshark would NEVER.
>>574059684>spend all your unit points on spawning mutants behind the players throughout the entire match
Man playing Arbites feels like you're doing NOTHING. There is no fun to be found in this class
im having a hard time believing all these people i play with aren't just bots in disguise
>>574060234what's wrong with it?
>>574060160RUAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>574059425>reasonably strong class that isn't absurdly OMaybe I play on shitter difficulties but arc rifle advanced combat protocols skitarii feels like a joke
>>574060234You built it wrong
>>574060289I'm not a bot, how rude. Do you like ice cream?
>>574060289You're expecting them to carry you or something?
god why are there so few missions types in darktidethey include so much detail in the levels sure but you aren't gonna see most of it because of the rushing gameplay. the levels may as well be randomly generaetd
>>574060234>*knocks over a crusher with light attacks*ogryn could never
>>573990915>>573991084>>573991521I hope it's easier to read now.
>>574061079should have written it in cursive
>>574060339unlimited crushers
>>574060468Nta but it would be nice for a change
If I'm whacking a shotgunner and he's bent over but still has his feet on the ground is he staggered for skullcrusher? Or does he need to fall over
>>574061715Any stagger animation/state counts
>>574061394i say.
>>574061079>>574062697Should've overlapped the two added texts ontop of eachother.
>>574044085"You got it all wrong"
>>573990439That much is very obvious if you ask anyone who has been playing since launch. Damnation would frequently have sub 1k mobs, and not by a little, but like 700~ guys a match and nothing more. I know this for absolute certainty because I stopped playing before the enemy creep started, and at the time I had only around 200k kills despite having over a thousand hours. Then only a few hundred hours later when I picked the game back up, I got Poxbreaker.
>>574061951Cool
>>574047364Darktide is based off of warhammer lore and has no relation to the tabletop game.
are the voice lines still borked or do skitarii really just call everyone that isn't a robot the same thing
>>574064202They call everyone "precursor", even the Ogryns which is unfortunate.
>>574056429>didn't you love being a dirty crackhead hobo with a gun?>how about a dirty crackhead hobo with a gun but even more?I'm more confused as to why they didn't make a necromunda game at this point with how obsessed they are with making the protagonists and antagonists the lamest dogshit possible.
>>574062953
>Full of mischief, is that servo skull...
>>574066124>takes him almost a minute to say it
>>574066124I wish KX was my grandpa
>>574066124love this guy
>>574066124Are you his little pre-servitor /coopg/?
I've only known kayex for a month but if anything happened to him I would kill everyone in this warband and then myself.
>mfw chordclawholy shit
>>574066524>>574066389>>574066124>>574066503>>574066538His gimmick is so funny but so simple and magnetic they struck gold with him
>>574067234I don't get the humor
>>574067496If you don't get it, then you're the joke
>>574067545ok..
>>574032418I can't believe this stupid bug is back, It's been so long since I've seen it.
Question: Is zealot based on something in the lore or on specific tabletop models? Maybe older specialist games like Inquisitor?
>>574068935Dark Heresy classes
>>574068935It's based on ancient TT models, same with many of the psykers cosmetics.
>>574069161as opposed to light heresy
>>574069675Just a little heresy, as a treat
>>574067234Very slow speaking + welsh accent, he's basically robo-Treebeard and it's definitely not by accident
>>574069675Better than dim heresy
>>574069724daemon sex
>>574014112Basically guaranteed because Creative Assembly are massive whores and will milk the 40k franchise until the cows come home.That's what they already did with Total Warhammer Fantasy; literally who factions like Cathay, Chords, and the Vampire Coast got in just to make even more $$$.Your only concern is how long you'll have to wait, because admittedly they might only be added towards the end
rate my skitty /coopg/
>>574071291lookslikeeveryotherskittyinmylobbies/10
>>574064557But there is oneIt's not even that bad of a game
>>574014112It's just short of an actual certainty going by how Total Warhammer went, we'll be seeing DLCs and sequels for the next decade or more.
>>574071392rude!!
>>5740141121000%there'll be factions for everythingyou've no idea just how much milk CA is gonna get from this franchise
>>574071291>marscringe
>>574071678it's the only forge world I know...maybe i'll read up on the others
>we'll never be as cool as himit hurts, bros...
>>574071865you can't fool me, that's saltzpyre's face with a bit more scars and I know he's no heretic
>>574071865You know what he tells his psychiatrist?>OPENING UP AAAAAA
>>574071865He's follower of nurgleHis pants are filled to the brim with diarrhea
>>574072091And so is his stomach
>>574069206i see but models of what?
>>574072372LOATHSOME DUNG EATER
>>574067496Very high autism. befitting a Mechanics.
>>574071416Yes and they could have made another one.
>>574066538STOP CALLING ME THAT RIGHT NOW OLD MAN!
>>574072091>>574072372and there's probably a Nurgling in it, so you just gave birth to boot.
>>573980790Same problem as payday 2 I imagine; it's copclick instead of GTA heists
>>574071678>>574071785Do they have Graia?
>>574073335>>574073335>>574073335
>>574068935Kinda based on Redemptionists, Preachers, and a bit of the old Dialogus.
>>574073509>STILL no pajamas for zealot
>>574054271I agree with that, I still don't think they'd fold over quite as easily as some believe but in the right context they could definitely die to enough of even something ‘mundane’
>>574052368why? that’s pretty cool. just shows that they really are on the edge. there’s no guarantee he’ll even succeed and he even says it’ll likely take decades at a minimum.
>>574058816The Praetorian Guard absolutely should at least get a cosmetic set though>5574054630>uncorruptibleExcept we know that isn't even completely true which makes it even sillier
>>574073597>>574073509>>574068935The most obvious one is the Fraternis Militia or whatever I think
>>574056665>or follow up on hints given in any of the books everI mean this does happen though. It’s one of their primary ways to keep the story forward. It doesn’t happen with every instance, but the pattern is usually for an author to allude to some plot point or mystery and leave just enough wiggle room for them or someone else to pick up on later. I do agree that Guilliman is here to stay though.
>>574043447>>574054579>wearing their helmetsThe funny irony is that Titus and Caedo mean not even that is totally reliable anymore
>>574018253True but not nearly as extreme a response as it could have been (this was a mistake)
>>574072372everytime I get the urge to play total warhammer again I remind myself I have to play total war and the urge dissipates.
>>574050438hormagaunts are mean business albeit>>574050634*the coolest topic
>>574039489>no responsetelling
>>574046429Simply not true as has been demonstrated (though they would definitely feel it) >>574040042Of course they can, just not as easily as some people are acting
how long do you reckon before a shitter dies?
>>574066124When I heard him on the release of The Carnival maps, I wanted him on every mission. They tried it again with Dragor, but it doesn't work because Dragor only has one schtick which is him yelling at a guy who may or may not be dead and it doesn't make sense for him to show up on various missions since he's in a fucking Leman Russ. Put Sefoni on more missions too, and remove the undesireables. Now that I think about it, they should add new characters in every mission like Dragor or Kay-ex where you don't need to make models for them. Just record some lines for a few missions, make a character portrait, and see if the community likes them. If they don't, rotate them out. If they do, record more lines for that character and add them to more missions.
>>574086896They collectively ate 4 bursters to the face before 2 minutes, and bursters became this minigame where I ran the fuck away from them awaiting a teammate going down (it happened every other time)>the first casualty was 4 minutes inSnowrune named skitter of course.We got to the bridge section at ~6 minutes, I just sat pretty at the bend not wanting to cross bridge 2/3 because a pack master spawned. My 3 retards ran ahead, got cornered, and died :^) I spent over a minute sitting at the same corner of the bridge just firing my gun and eating my ammo crate until the spawns died down.12 minutes in they still haven't learned that hugging bursters is a bad idea.The end result was pretty predictable. None of them did anything and I had more damage combined than the entire team.I feel bad for carrying them to the W because not a single one of these retards belonged in auric.
