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Trucker Hat Edition

- Xenoverse 3 announced
- Xenoverse 2 final DLC is out
- Two anime series have been announced: DBS: Beerus (with Frieza teaser) and DBS: Galactic Patrol
- FighterZ new balance update is out
- Gekishin Squadra is out

• XENOVERSE 3 - GAMEPLAY FIRST LOOK
https://youtu.be/2WJ8irTIw7I

• XENOVERSE 2 - FUTURE SAGA CH4 LAUNCH TRAILER
https://youtu.be/DFWpzSFTJco

• SPARKING ZERO - SUPER LIMIT BREAKING NEO DLC TRAILER
https://youtu.be/_5Cr9BOt98c

• FIGHTERZ - GOKU SS4 DAIMA TRAILER
https://youtu.be/qTfxD54fMHs

• GEKISHIN SQUADRA - BEERUS
https://youtu.be/Rho1a64OyX0

• KAKAROT - DAIMA PT2 LAUNCH TRAILER
https://youtu.be/ZY6OAh_7KYw

>Useful links:
https://rentry.org/dft79

XV2 news:
>Future Saga 4 DLC will launch this Summer

SDBH News/Resources:
>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24
>SDBH Database: https://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/
>Deck Autism: https://rentry.org/sdbhdecklist

DBSDV news:
>The 11th set has released
>God Rares: SSB Goku, SSB Vegetto, Corrupted Zamasu, Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Cell Max, Xeno Vegeta, SS3 Xeno Bardock
>Reflect Break Cards: SSG Goku, Ultimate Gohan, SSR Trunks, Piccolo, Whis
>Modes based on Goku Black and DBS Superhero arcs
>Card List: https://www.dbsdv.com/cardlist/?series=598010

>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:
steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21
DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefile
If you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.

Kakarot news:
>Daima DLC Pt2 launched on January 15th

The Breakers news:
>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider

>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry here
http://xenoverse.booru.org/

Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)
Thank you

LAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>573487881
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Is it such a crime to mod in a 6 star QQ bang with 5 points in everything? If it can exist, it should.
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>>574050113
>Trucker Hat Edition
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Okay I "soft completed" Budokai Tenkaichi 1 and 2. Let's be for real it's retarded to do a true 100% where you grind out all of the fucking items and shit you can put on characters. But yeah I 100%'d the BT3 story mode on hard, was easy enough. Now I'm doing the tournaments and ultimate battle at my own pace. Of course I did the shitty ultimate battle in the first game too, but I had to use save states because for some reason the #15 fighter, Krillin is a fucking God. In fact, most of the ones from #15 and so on are literal Gods.

But yeah taking a break cause Tenkaichi 2 burned me out. I'll chip away at BT3 over the next week and then it's time to do the Budokai games. Realistically only 3 and IW will be "long." But they aren't that long either unless you do the "true 100%." Which, as I said, is really not worth it for any of the games at all. Just such a fucking chore. My point is you have that soft completion level where you have done everything and then you have that level where you have done EVERYTHING which can take dozens of more hours.
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Hyper offense just lost to the ultimate defense. UI confirmed better than UE.
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I'm making crono in XV3
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Every so often Toei will post rescanned cels and I’m not sure of the grain is because of the cel itself or something to do with the physical paint itself, cause I thought the grainy look was due to film reels
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i need sex with the supreme kai of time
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>>574053039
Where is Cell? I know they sort of "rescanned" him in Super Hero because Cell Max is a clone.
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>>574053456
And what if you get her pregnant? Can you raise a Supreme Kai baby?
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>>574057106
Anon gurindo are fruits, they don't reproduce on their own, they are born from a tree.
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still as fun as i remember it being
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>>574057846
bulma sucked my cock in the back of a capsule corp plane. airline service hahahahahah
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What's the recommended level to play the Story Missions for the last 2 Xenoverse DLC's? My character is at level 119.
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seripa sex
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Someone on twitter pointed if you make the arabian outfit necklace piece black, it looks like a choker...and well....
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>Chronoa yanks a time scroll right out of her ass.

also I could have named myself SupremeKaiofTime with the 16 character limit.
and i could have bought her clothes last week had I gotten enough STP medals.
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>only one female saiyan, two buus, a namekian, and a freiza race to make.
so far I have Chronoa, Shallot, and Mirai Tenshi (Future Warrior) canon look.
>>574052915
you can make a Crono for xenoverse 2,
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>>574060206
I love her armor.
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I thought Xenoverse 2 was gonna be long in the main story, but each quest just takes snippets of a certain event unlike Kakarot.
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>>574060834
Xenoverse doesn't really do a full-fledged retelling like other games, it's more of a "go back in time and fix this event" sort of game.
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>>574052546
>Of course I did the shitty ultimate battle in the first game too, but I had to use save states because for some reason the #15 fighter, Krillin is a fucking God. In fact, most of the ones from #15 and so on are literal Gods.
I remember beating that mode with Ginyu back in the day.
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>normgroids finally woke up and had enough of bandai's anime arena fighter slop
it is unironically over for dragon ball vidya
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>>574060639
Was going to make Ace for parallel quests but I can't seem to find his actual character sliders
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>>574063285
>281 views

Stop advertising
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>>574063285
oh no john youtuber with his literal sub 300 viewcount video doesnt like the game
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i hope xenoverse 3 gives us longer hair styles
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>xv3 added pullable tails
why
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Possible XV3 map
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>>574068167
Do we think they're going to include the whole DB world (plus places outside of that like Namek) like Kakarot or will they go the Xenoverse route and just make districts?
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>>574064310
I am observing
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>be at tournament of festival yesterday
>noticed the gold statue was that of Fu his future counterpart.
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>>574064310
arigato
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god i sucked at playing beerus
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>>574073349
staircase combo ki blasts 214M, and remember that your 214S has nasty iframes
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>>574050113
>XV2 news:
>>Future Saga 4 DLC will launch this Summer
update the OP for next thread
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>>574070606
I am requesting that titty mod.
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>>574052915
>>574060639
I made a Crono for XV2, didn't use him much though

>>574062540
Neat
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Lmao they leaked Black AND Jiren for squadra
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>stuck at level 80
>guru levels you till 99?
>then whis and his food to 180
dear god, i want to level up not get stuck.
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This fan manga BTFO Dragon Ball Super so hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL2B-8N8ZQ0
Retconning Pikkon to be a guardian god is just perfect.
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>>574086740
>Youtuber yapping about things
Can you at least link the fan manga from somewhere else?
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>>574086740
fuck off, shill
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>>574088613
I just like it
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Good for you, but you come here acting like a cunt, you'll get treated like one.
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>>574064684
>john youtuber with his literal sub 300 viewcount
you named the MC of this game john now take responsibility for other johns speaking up
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>>574063285
>literal fucking sixth worlder
so this is the best anitxvfags have, huh
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Supreme Onahole of Time
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Fuck DIMPS for making me do frieza's henchmen PQ 11 times for those skills
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Is the Super saiyan 4 suit still worth fighting for knowing that the tail is still gonna be missmatched?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh0xpidpXo4

the tail is tied to the wigs so be it daima or gt you'll never have it match your top, this fucking bullshit just give us the form, goddammit!
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>>574089845
thats the place they're dumping the demo at though so
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See the fit?
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Love having to farm balls to respec because of this level 199 fuckery
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>>574098997
They added an npc that'll collect them for you
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>>574099230
For 560 STP medals, fucking ripoff
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>want driving Piccolo
>already burned through 18 golden capsules to no avail
>I should get 22 more golden capsules over the next two weeks
>plus 6 special capsules from burning 24 capsules
>28 more tries put together
>but at 0.25% rate that's still a mere 6.8% chance of getting that skin
>even if I bought the 10 capsules pack with my hoarded diamonds that still just brings my chances to 9.1%
TOSHI YOU GODDAMN BASTARD I HATE YOUR ASS SO MUCH
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>>574103331
Yet you can't bring yourself to uninstall
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>we'll be delivering a monthly stream of new XV3 informations every issue
>except when we won't
LMAOOO
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>>574103482
this is still just cosmetics, the only toshism that hinders actual gameplay is the 2-3 week delay for new characters for nonwhales, and it's kinda whatever, i'm getting them anyway
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>>574103592
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>>574103592
where is that sparking zero DLC
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>>574107705
at the anniversary of its release
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>>574107705
sparking zero neo more like sparking zero nevo happeningu
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>>574107705
Gotta admit, I didn't expect them to just go extremely quiet with SZ so fast
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>>574107705
when you hear summer you should assume september
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>>574109859
best part of daima
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I saw a joke YouTube comment that xenoverse 1 was originally supposed to be chrono trigger
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>>574109859
king kuu's property
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>please clap
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>>574112786
That's his mother.
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>>574113175
hot
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>>574110164
I like how she was hyped up to be an even greater evil that has been there since the beginning but the reality is that she's just a dork sorceress, not a dark sorceress.
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>>574110164
One of Toriyama's last parting gifts.
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is there any NON-retarded white/east asian guy who tried the demo?
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Mostly just new shots of the early story mode.
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>>574120541
Sans 1000
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So that's why Bulma said New City in the first trailer, New City is the center district of West City.
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>>574121485
Ayo wtf
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the final dlc story was kino
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They really don't give a fuck about Sparking Zero DLC, do they?
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>>574126134
there is no sparking dlc
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>>574119013
Yeah, me
what do you want to know
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If they had went with the actual good SSJ4 design Daima wouldn't have been so bad. We could've had Godku in Super. We lost, Daima bros.
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eh
2/10 low effort post
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So I fucked up the timeline, killed fu, evil supreme kai never returned to normal, goku is stuck with the crystal in him and now I'm married to evil Chronoa and Trunks is our slave
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>>574119013
>*west asian/east asian
fix'd
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>>574126134
The fans don't, why should they?
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>>574120541
What is actually the point in V-jump if they never show anything new or exclusive anymore?
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>>574126382
Based 12/10 post
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>>574136947
They did last month. The magazine also offers exclusive cards for their arcade games.
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>>574126134
They've shown nearly everything already, all that's left will be in the final trailer.
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>>574136947
Shueisha likes to stranglehold companies, mangaka, and editors for personal gain.
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Here I go!
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Is it me or is there something exciting about looking at a charactr's hair imaginging how it would look as a super saiyan, as a super saiyan 2, as a super saiyan 3, as a super saiyan 4, then an annoying feeling of frustration knowing that no game in the modern age is really eager to flex creativeness that way for player, you have to scratch that itch in fan projects or through A.I.
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Why is almost every single outfit choice in GT so fucking goofy looking?
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>>574147752
can't relate. I find it more exciting to think about how the saiyan diaspora culture would evolve by the time of age 1000, especially when you factor in goku ans vegeta literally achieving godhood, and the existance of the u6 gallants to u7's goofus saiyans, whomst were never wiped out yet lost everything that made them recognizably saiyan until vegeta showed the way to cabba who brought it back with him
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>>574121485
Arinsu is very pretty.
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>>574148762
Everything about GT was trash. Thank god for Daima.
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>>574149316
I agree.
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There is not a single GT villain that is attractive enough for me to want to fuck the shit out of them.
>but Oceanus-!
True form is uglier than the trannies that defend her.
>But Super 17-!
Looks like trash, even when he's Super 17.
>BUT MAMBA-!
Mid. Tier. Nobody.
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>>574150309
Now the protagonists on the other hand...
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>>574068167
That map at the top center looks like DB's world map. I hope the explorable parts in the game are bigger than just West City.
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>>574150309
You get 18 booba in GT.
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>>574149319
GT sucks but it's better than Daima.
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>>574150509
I don't want to fuck the shit out of Pan like I do Towa, Arinsu, 18, Kamin, Vados, Kefla, or even Laggs. I love chicks with BOOBS and ASS.

>>574150686
GT 18 isn't a villain. If there were a Super 18 you might have a point.
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Fufu...
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>>574152320
I kneel before God.
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It'd be cool if Frieza's race got "suppresser" forms like Frieza and the others do. And you could pour points into one stat, like one form can be a tank while the other can be a speedster.
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>>574148762
because it's 90s fashion
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>>574155292
It almost feels like a parody of 90s fashion though, it's so over the top, especially with the color choices.
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>>574155869
when was the last time you looked at the 90s?
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>>574156354
Uh.. the 90s?
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>>574156440
then you'd know that gaudy colours were all the rage
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>>574161424
cute
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>>574153441
you know, it's been debated wither or not Freiza's restrained forms are a thing of his race or something he himself can do because he's a mutant version of his race much like Broly and Gohan, then again Toriyama was behind Cooler's creation and cooler started out in Frieza's final form then progressed into a fifth stronger form, where as King Cold was so cowardly he never even tried to fight Trunks let alone even attempt to transform into a form fit for battle, he just looked like Freiza's second form.

Then you take Frost into account, the anime had him have a form like Freiza's first complete with the armor, he didn't take a second form he skiped straight to third in the anime, then into his version of final when he fought against Vegeta after being exposed and he's stayed in that form ever since,he did manage to achieve the power max form after coaching from Freiza then being eliminated by turning his back to him.

Over all, there's another thing I've been curious about, ever once and a while someone calls Freiza's race a frost demon? Where exactly did that term originate and how has it survived to this day?
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hey whats the name of the xenoverse 2 strike skill? the punch you use at the tutorial that makes the oponents surprised
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>>574171138
The only one I can think of is Super God Fist, but I wouldn’t really say it makes them surprised
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Give me the QRD on this Toshi feller.
How does he apparently ruin every game he touches?
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>>574164026
>Freiza's restrained forms are a thing of his race or something he himself can do because he's a mutant version of his race
It's not Freeza's race specific, as Burter suggests other species can use transformation to raise or lower their power level, and we see that in Namek itself with Zarbon. Most species outside of Earth have no concept of ki control so they come up with other ways to suppress their power if they're too strong.

>where as King Cold was so cowardly he never even tried to fight Trunks let alone even attempt to transform into a form fit for battle, he just looked like Freiza's second form.
The way it's presented, it doesn't look like he even can transform, as he never talks like he's holding his power, nor does anyone suggest it. He saw his son getting killed, dialogue suggests Freeza is stronger than him even while holding back his power, so Cold was backed in a corner and and tried to be smart when stealing Trunks' sword, believing it was the source of Trunks' power. Cold being capable of transforming is a popular fanon simply because Freeza and Cooler can, and he looks like Freeza's second form, but nothing suggests he can transform.

>Over all, there's another thing I've been curious about, ever once and a while someone calls Freiza's race a frost demon? Where exactly did that term originate and how has it survived to this day?
It's from Dragon Ball Multiverse, a French doujin that started in 2008 and is still going to this day. It's mocked here once every few days. The name survived because it was one of the earlier fanon names for Freeza's race (Alongside Arcosians), and Cell in Xenoverse's english dub calls them Frost Demons, for some reason.
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>>574120541
>nothing new from the demo that we didn't already see from the gameplay showcase apart from Super Saiyan 3
>new Vjump shows/tells us nothing we didn't already know from the demo and the first two trailer
This whole month was a dud for marketing. I'm significantly less excited than I was when trailer 2 dropped.
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>>574164026
I know it's not going to happen because Hirano likely exaggerated Toriyama's involvement and how expansive and story-filled this game is supposed to be but it'd be neat if they took a page from DBO and added more lore such as expanding on Frieza's race, give them a name, explain what they're doing on earth and how their transformations work.
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>>574172284
Toshi likes to power creep the games he's involved in. Dokkan, Legends, Squadra all went through that. The games all introduced powerful units that shake up the meta, then later they add newest units that just so happen to counter the previous meta, so you have to spend extra to keep up. I'm not exactly sure of his involvement with Dokkan but I don't think he was there from the start, I hear that once he got involved the meta did a lot of power creeping, and after he left things got better. I think he was involved with Legends from the start but once he left, the game never recovered. He's currently involved with Squadra, and it's the game I know the most.
>Its first season made all three character from it not be obtainable as F2P until the season ended, which made SS3 Goku really dominate the meta for two months.
>The second season toned that down by making it you can get a character once the next one is available, but the power creeping was even worse, as season 2 nerfed the other tanks, and added the overtuned SS4 Vegeta tank so he stands out even more.
>The very next character was Ultimate Gohan, who had too much damage, HP, low CDs and stuns up the wazoo, so he was also the most powerful technical.
>The last character from the season was Broly, who while not as powerful as the other two, does have stun immunity in one of his skills, making him into a clear counter for them.
>Power creeping is still around, though currently in season 6 Beerus doesn't look that powerful
Toshi is also a notorious Gohanfag, as his involvement in Dokkan, Legends and Squadra all had overtuned Gohans.
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I finally did it, and I was able to get it before I had to leave for work! although this time I bought the last 7 levels because the xp bonus ended and became extra tp medals bonus!
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This new hub seems interesting, I wonder what the map of the world entails. Surely the world of XV3 isn't THAT big.
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>>574179470
just for curiosity, can you post majin vanilla
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>>574179770
The screen also shows 3 other planets aside from Earth. I'm guessing one of them is Namek, but I have no clue what the other two are, especially since they have rings surrounding them.
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>>574179830
This is the most recent one I have of her, she's a max/max ki blaster, now with more health and BA, she's extremely powerful when using final explosion and the broken majin stamina recover, the outfit is one I threw on her for fun
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>>574179925
Either Yardrat or Planet Vegeta/Sadala
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>>574180250
max stam/max ki blaster*

female majins are just monsters so there's a few ways you can go when building them but I chose to keep her as a blaster, my other majin, Cherry, is a striker with max stam/max ki/max BA and max strikes, a power rush demon!

>Vanilla is a majin from universe 7, originally part of another majin named Majin Bon Bon, Vanilla named herself after the ice cream because she liked the taste, she's somewhat dumb but gets serious when fighting and goes all out when she needs to. Vanilla is also capable of absorbing fighters if needed and can even envelope an ally and become armor for them, absorbing damage and blows while also giving them energy! (unfortunately there's no mechanic to do this in-game...)
>She loves sweets and candies, is childish but hides her true intelligence and has a good heart, her intimidating appearance is a leftover from Bon Bon, while the cat mouth is a result of seeing a cat on TV.
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>>574180250
>>574181370
i tought she was going to be yellow
but she cute
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>>574181757
My actual first majin was a yellow male back in XV1 on the ps3 but that was when I didn't know about race bonuses and stuff, I lost that save unfortunately so I forgot his name, all that I have left from the "PS3 timeline" is this girl named Shirelle, I think she was a saiyan but I can't remember, she may have influenced my mind while I redesigned my cac Iris, she was also the second cac I made the original was a saiyan male named Rabikohl, but I don't have any screenshots of him left, he had the super saiyan kid trunks hair, max height and weight and red eyes.
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Why does nobody bring up the fact that Jaco molests you if you're a Majin.
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>>574179770
All those icons on the holo-globe is making me hopeful that New West City isn't the only area in storymode.
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>>574150309
nobody wants your semen, wanker
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>>574150287
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>>574150309
Now that you meniton it, GT didn't really introduce any memorable waifu, pedos only coom to Pan and Bra, but they're Z characters formally speaking, and well, they're pedo subhumans anyway, so who cares. OG gave us Bulma, Mai, Lunch and Chi-Chi; Z gave us #18 and Videl plus minor ones like Erasa or Zangya which despite barely appearing acquired iconic status. Super gave us U6 whores. Daima has Arinsu. Banger after banger after banger. But GT? Even when they gave Goten a girlfriend, no one gives a shit, she's less memorable that the Lady Red lookalike pining for Gohan from that one Z filler.
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Imagine another tournament arc in Super. To foster cooperation between the universes, the next Tournament Zeno organizes is 2on2 based with teams composing of members of two different unvierses. What pairs would you like to see?
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>>574198467
Does Oceanus Shenron count?
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>>574199516
NTA but no, less people remember her (and especially her true form) than they do the filler girl in Super that kissed Gohan.
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>>574200428
>filler girl in Super that kissed Gohan
she a cute though
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>>574200556
>introduce NTR bait for Gohan with Barry
>Videl ends up being the one getting cucked
cinema
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Do you think both of them will be in XV3?
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>>574200727
Base version, neither, but they will probably appear in some DLCs later.
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Remember people: Current ruler of the Demon Realm is still Kuu.

That being the case, for the sake of Diplomacy I will require you, yes YOU fellow Patroller, to deliver or mail to Kuu pictures of the Bossu

>>574081082
If I recall, it was just part of the outfit and I can't remember if that mod still works or what the name was.
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>if the Demon Realm is in the story mode, Xenoverse 3 could introduce Panzy all grown up
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>>574201107
she is rarely safe for work
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Is this the timeline now
Jaco/Minus
OG
Z
Daima
Super
End of Z chapter
Neko Majin if people wanna consider it canon, I don't because of Vegeta not only not looking like his end of Z self in his cameo but also because he was wearing his armor which he stopped doing after Granola arc, by Super Hero he's witched to his buu saga fit again
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>>574206995
Vegeta only stopped wearing armor in Buu because it was prohibited by the tournament, and likewise wasn't wearing armor in SH because the point was for it to be a "fair" pure melee fight and it was just cheaper to only whip up one model of Vegeta for the movie rather than an armored one and an unarmored one just for the sake of a single sequence of him taking it off.
In Toriyama's words, Vegeta keeps wearing armor not because of anything to do with the Frieza Force but because after a point its "the armor Bulma made for him"
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>>574206995
no, daima, toriyama's final gift, wiped out super out of canon
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what's the lore behind the majins and frieza race anyway? the xv2 majins are all descendents of majins pooped out by buu post buu saga? frieza aliens are just neat looking niggas with no lore? is the supreme kai of time in love with someone?
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>>574209043
neither frieza nor cooler are ever said to be the last of their kind, and all toriyama had to say was that cold was a mutant abnormally stronger than the rest of his kind and he (one way or another) was the only parent of frieza for the sake of ensuring his mutant strength was passed on.
Point is, there is in theory an entire spacefaring civilization of his species just sort of out there with nothing to do with goku or earth
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>>574209043
you make out your own or follow the DBO idea that all boos are made by Boo after reading porn
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>>574184561
You what now
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>>574209408
i see. i'm wondering because it still seems wack that the xv2 timeline has members of both races all integrated and good guys and shit.
>>574209836
is that what buu gets up to in that house
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>>574211920
S-Stop...
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>>574206995
No it's not, unless Majin Buu is called Porunga now.
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>>574212634
why DID they split kibitoshin in super anyways, it's not like kibito ever does anything
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>>574214670
Kibito had more screen time than kibitoshin so they went with the usual "hey remember that character? Well here he is"
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>>574053039
It depends on what they are scanning and how they are scanning it. They might be adding it on purpose to look more filmic. Some digital cinema cameras even intentionally add grain natively in the camera, so that could be part of the scanning process itself.
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i have been watching the DBZ movies because i had no idea who some of the characters in xv were. these movies suck though, why are turles and slug such prominent xv2 villains when they suck so much dick and are retards?
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>>574215483
Like super saiyan 4 gogeta, a lot of movie characters are carried by the videogames. (Sans broly and cooler, they're generally popular in their own right)
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>>574180250
Cute. Now post Blizz
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>>574212634
Why didn't Multiverse Vegito just ask Shenron to unfuse? Is he stupid?
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>>574216198
shouldn't have old kai unfused vegito anyways given the fusion shouldn't have been stable by that point
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>>574215483
because the ideas are cool and most people watched them when they were 12-16 and experienced as basically a setup followed by a 12 minute numetal music video
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>>574209043
The Friezas in Xenoverse are all descended from Kuriza and Bulla
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Can't wait to see all the weird school days fan art inspired by XV3



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