You're all lazy niggers, so now you get a CHARLOTTA thread.Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://gbf.wiki/Granblue_Fantasy:_Relink>FAQhttps://rentry.org/RelinkFAQ>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackOld Thread: >>574013873
I'm TIRED of CHARLOTTA THREADS!!!!!!!!!STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>still dogshite
The fights take too long now, the combat isn't nuanced enough to press the same two buttons for 8+ minutes straight
>Want to learn and work on a new character since my main Vane is nearly done besides a bit more mastery points and doing the infinity fights to cap off terminus>Torn between Gallanza, Fraux, Eustace (lightning build looks funny), Captain, Fediel (less inclined right now because seeing her in a fight annoys me with how fast things will die), Bea (sounds similar to Vane, if less tanky), Mag, or IoHell, I think my list of don't want to play or try at all is smaller, which is pretty much just Ghonda, Vas, and Sieg.
I didn't know Silva had a computer
Is Rosetta good now?Should i invest in her? Or is she still subject to the boss moving and her losing on 90% of her dps.
>cygays replaces Ghanda for a new female crewmate because no one uses him>>574065234>Ladiva
>>574064765>All capsBased
>>574064765At this point it HAS to be on purpose.
>>574065038Cursed child
>fight the 4 dragons>fight the 4 dragons>fight the 4 dragons>fight the 4 dragons>fight the mega dragon (it's actually all the dragons again lmao)
>7 human males + mc>6 human females + mc>1 male potato> 2 female potato>1 male erune> 3 female erune>3 male draph>1 female draph>1 male and female primal>1 dragon
I started this game because Fediel is hot. But Zeta and Maglielle are very fun to play. This was a good game to pick up
This is my big sister there are many like her but this one is mine.
>>574065096what characters do you play
>>574066070>good gamenot for long don't worry.
>>574065710Well, yeah.OP even capitalized it this time.You don't get that through just copypasting it without looking.
*unlottas*
>you unlocked new mastery nodes!wait what does that mean i dont see new master traits>check regular masteriesholy fuck i need like 10m mastery points now holyshit
>>574066637He thought the grind was over!
>>574066341Yeah I noticed it after posting but a queue popped so I didn't have time to say it.
I have a fully transended asension weapon and a 4/7 Terminus. At what point should I equip the terminus over the ascension?
>just did the quest right before the final boss>Song player gets killed by Rick Golden 6 times and eats half of critical bar>Behemoth comes in>Song player dies 5 more times and we fail the questHow is this possible? And why is it always fucking Song (or Narm/Sandy)??
>>574066819depends on charactergo fist Sir Barrold and check what does more damagesimple as that
>>574066819Rock Golem*Fucking hell
>Beat world after finally figuring out how to parry him>Lose to bubs at 5%>Think okay I just need a bit more gear and this should be easy>Fail Versa's first DPS check>Can't even fight luci because the AI refuses to attack him over his swordsAlright man kill me now. How geared does your AI have to be to beat the infinity bosses because beating the stupidity is getting to me. Song in particular perplexes me, like I caught her so underperforming at a link time that we almost missed a full burst. I know what she's capable when piloted by a human, yet somehow she's performing just as bad as a floor hugger
>>574067063without a silva to ruin she's lost and confused and can only be bad at things
>>574067050And I quote the wrong post. I'm so annoyed I can't even post right.
>>574066819I went all the way to Infinity version of Hexa/final boss with the trans'd ascension weapon. I do think it is probably just fine at 6/7 or 5/6 in the endgame.
reminder that you can perfect guard mid attack and you wont get interrupted
reminder to go and afk farm your Stout Heart
>>574067063Just don't play with the AI
>>574067160I put her in after noticing magli having some inconsistencies so I thought song's debuffs would at least offset the stupidity but like i have max uplift on her and she's still somehow only barely making SBA chains. Are the other ranged AI better? I don't want to go back to eugen.
when the FUCK do i get to increase my Master Trait lv past 30? its been HOURS, everything after The World is just previous quests with bloated HP that either filters people or is fuckfull of cheaters, its unironically getting incredibly fucking boring to play
When do think we get news for another set of characters?
Someone save Ferry
>>574067438>45%Back to the mines with you.
>>574067559Beat the final boss of the DLC (story version)
What are the ideal summon slot skills?
>>574067673Yeah man, back to the mines for a 0.005% increase by getting a 50 over 45.
>>574067727for traits, anything that caps or is "good enough" at 15 so that you aren't "wasting" a Sigil Booster slot on it. things like potion hoarder, the crab skill, stout heart, etcfor boost rolls, you want 60-100% on normal or skill caps
>>574067559>everything after The World is just previous quests with bloated HP that either filters people or is fuckfull of cheaters, its unironically getting incredibly fucking boring to playDamn I honestly really enjoyed that stretch of fights after the world. It was very smooth and breezy. It took me like seven or eight tries to get a team of people that didn't just tank the critical gauge for the world fight. That's where I was getting a bit tired.
Forgive me I am new to the game but does attack affect skill damage?
some people really refuse to engage with the summoning mechanic huh, it's a perfect downtime filler or just nice buffs
Quick! Faa is charging JI ENDO what do you do!>Beat his swords since that's part of the labor>Beat the shit out of him since he's channeling it99% of person can't solve this!
Is Fraux fun? She looks cool but I'm getting pretty annoyed of playing melee characters in this game.
>>574067438I wouldn't be caught dead AFK farming
>>574067606I'm sorry, anon.She's already dead.
>>574068267you also get this cool wrightstones every single time
>>574068268
>>574067606She could apply charm by releasing her erune pit pheromones
>>574067727Stout Heart (situational, but it's also a 25% mit so can be useful to anyone, but great for melee and especially tanky characters like Vane and Gallanza)Berserk Echo (removes rng due to it not being synthable and you no longer have to worry about slotting it on anyone else ever again)Spartan Echo (see above)War Elemental (see above)Crab (20% health and 10% damage reduction. More useful to tanky types, but also just a nice bit of extra bulk)
What's your AI team set-up for AFK farming?
Would you play Granblue Fantasy Relink 2 Dos and its expansion Granblue Fantasy Relink Freedom Unite
>>574064765Holy SAGGERS
>>574068253She's pretty cool. Keep in mind that her core gameplay is filling her two gauges to spam skills.
>>574068253She's an xy combo character like siete, danchou and bea so if you've played any of them you can pilot her with minor adjustments to the fact you need to fill both gauges. That said she's a hell of a lot flashier and faster, a lot of her skills feel good to use, and she's just kinda strong with a solid kit.
>>574068201The swords are killing me, so...
>>574068268so is having secks with Ferry considered necrophilia
>>574065338she's a lot betterbare minimum she's a viable support now
What kink does it classify as if I want to be Ferry for exclusively sexual reasons
>See everyone knocking Ferry as bad>It just makes me want to try her
>>574068267me too, fuck that gay shit, the grind is part of the fun
Siete Infinity quest but he isn't holding back anymore.
I can't use Spartan/Berserker Echo sigils for synthesis? So if I get a shitty one I can only throw it in the trash? What other sigils are banned from synthesis?
>>574069254They dont mean bad character, they mean, at least in the base game, her damage numbers were fucked up that spamming 1 move was her go to way to do the best damage she can do. idk what they have changed in this yet, but even then her toolset was simple to use, though fun imo. Though in base game using the toolset was gimping yourself.
Mom summon when?
>>574069740War elementalBerserkerSpartanCharacter SpecificAlphaGammaUnique ones
>>574069740>throw it in the trash? What other sigils are banned from synthesis?Dont throw them away, just keep them all until you get enough for each character at least. Keep playing and eventually better ones will drop with ideal traits.Any sigil that cant double up into 1 sigil.though the opus lucillus sigils are also an exception.Like you cant put WE and WE together because WE is 1 standard effect not a stat of 45 stack.
>>574067935Exactly.
Breaking Bea
Guys how do I unlock rank 2 and 3 mastery traits? I got one to lvl 10 and still nothing
>>574069609Cygames should release Siete Blanco already
>>574069832That's what people are still saying anon.>>574070183>r2Chaos+>r3Chaos++
>>574070280Sian [Siete + Gran] fusion when?
The Hexa fight was kinda lame
Fediel heavy imply Relink is one of Orologia anniversary simulation (the generic wyrm form 6D gives it away anyways) and the Will of the Skies talking during Hexa fight it's logiaMILF soon
>finish combo>Sword Shine gauge looks maxed out>Fire off Infinito Creare>it suddenly ends>Sword Shine was in fact not maxed outAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE
So drain is just garbage now right?
>>574070640Huh? It's the mainstay sustain.
just started the game, its pretty funSex with npc draphs
>>574070640Regen and divergence is so much better. Once you get the Crab Sigil you don't even need drain either.
>>574070640It depends.For a lot of characters, it's pretty shit, and you don't hit fast enough.But for unga bunga characters that spam moves that hit a lot like Bea, it's still pretty good. Each cock mode finisher should restore like 10% of your HP when you connect.
>>574070801Can confirm. I ate Furycane's tornado while in gold clock and my drain healed me through most of it.
>>574070570>Orologia added>can actually switch between the 2 just like gran and djeeta
This makes me laugh a little too hard
>>574070801Fraux also does really well with Drain
>>574070640Still decent if your character hits rapidly like Yoda and Magi, and assuming your HP isn't super high.
>>574071087What about this
>>574070570What's the difference between Oro's simulations and the situation in Versus?
>>574070570So, there are simulations, different timelines and alternate dimensions? That's a lot of what ifs, and what ifs within what ifs
>>574071476There have also been at least two convergences
>>574071195I don't know what's going on, but I like it
do I just drop terra (with lumen) for crab sigil?
I'm currently at chaos and 21k pwrTrying to ascend my defender weapon as per recommendation (currently lvl3)What are some missions I should be farming to progress the fastest/easiest?The 4th roguelike mode takes too long to "farm" even though I think its the best for ascension?I'd rather repeat quick missions lots of times if possible.
>>574070640Apparently raising heal cap helps a lot.>>574070785Weird seeing everyone all over the crab now.
>>574071605If you don't want to do conflux then you just wishlist w/e you need and do those quests.
>>574071476The writers for the gacha games are legitimately some of the most incompetent people ever, they have written themselves into a corner so many times that their solutions have included parallel timelines (every event story line is its own timeline lol), multidimensional shit, and even a few fever dream hallucinations that got passed off as events.Funnily enough, Orologia's simulations is probably their best written one simply because it was self contained and the ultimate result of all the simulations was settling on a "real timeline"... Which is undermined by their multiversality in the first place.Their writing is legitimately rage inducing if you ever try to get invested. The whole "worst thing that could happen to a character you like is cygames deciding to write about them" is so true.
>Spent a day trying to kill Infinite Luci as Rosetta>Never saw him under 30%>Finally get Rosetta's Warpath+>It borderline increases my total DPS by 40% by itself>First new try on Luci with the sigil>Dies on the first try>Do Infinite Hexa>Also dies on the first try because I just have to activate Iron Maiden or Spiral Rose to rape itWhat the fuck, a single sigil shouldn't impact a character's damage so much, it's ridiculous.
>>574072069Gamba for the gamba wielding girl is similar
>saw a level 50 Katalina player todayHoly FUCK
>>574071564If you drop one of those health sigils, is it a greater loss?
>>574068734Nyes
What is the point of buying this DLC and playing the new characters if all of the enemies have already been beaten, all of the rare sigil combinations have been farmed, and everyone on PC just cheats to instantly kill the boss for rewards or uses cheat engine to automatically get items?
>>574072052But what should I be aiming for? Aside from the defender weapon?What are good missions to farm sigils/msp/exp and such? Or what's the most needed item in endgame and where can I farm it.Stuff like that I have no idea about and the guides I could find are all either ultra early game or absolutely endgame.
>>574072474The dlc is free bwo
>>574072474I'm too stupid and zoomer to use cheat engine so I don't cheat B)
why is the cheater schizo still seething
How do I get more crewmate cards?I got 4 but need 7 total to get all the remaining characters.
Flowery Seven or Magic Chain ?
>>574072932Run conflux
>>574072768He's mentally ill, it won't end until he's dead
>>574068201does anyone have that image of "YOUTR FATE IS OVER RETARD - CURSE OF LABOR"
artful dodger is great but man am i bad at dodging
>>574072393They give damage cap (secondary and master trait req) and one has fatebreaker so I guess yeah, I need more dmg cap honestly. Now that I think about it I'm wondering if dropping spartan instead of the celestial sigil would be a better idea.
>>574073042I only have this one
what do i do with extra crewmate cards
>>574071605Retard doesnt know what game hes playing
>>574071564Yeah that'll work
>>574071919improved healing does not work with drain sigil at least
>>574072668But everyone else already did so why are you playing? What do you get out of it?
Man I thought skill Zeta was fun but Percival is the exact same thing but way crazier since he can reset two cooldowns instead of one.
>>574073305you can trade them in siero, I forgot what does it trade though
>>574072573The goal should be to max them all out and using stinger until your ascension weapon catches up in damage cap. Run Conflux to up your power until you unlock the chaos slime mission for xp/msp. You farm sigils/stones in Conflux.
>>574072284I've seen at least 3 today, all 3 of them never drained the Critical bar and were really good.
aside from character specific stuff what are some basic sigils you can shove onto your NPCs?I failed the proto baha dps check
I had the displeasure of encountering a Siegfried who's Link Time quote was "mpreg time". This is why male character enjoyers deserve less in both chink and Jap games.
>>574072069almost all of the warpath sigils are absurd damage boosts40% is pretty much the baseline
There is quite literally 0% chance this bitch isn't getting nerfed to the groundThe question is when?
>>574074148glass cannon, improved dodge, and try to max their dmg caps
>>574074361Realistically, not for a few weeks because cygames have proven that they like to let the game marinate for a bit before doing balance changes
Was it necessary for Belzebuub to get naked for his last phase?
>>574074679Bubs is a joke character and getting naked is a very funny joke.
>>574074361Not fucking soon enough
>>574074679They made an entire event around Bubs Nudo
>Unlock the super mega masteries of the garaburu™>Finally break even between my damages and my capHoly fucking shit I feel alive again
Does the pink circle in the conflux items mean you have already collected it or you haven't collected it?
the same people at cygames who made relink & this apparently are now pulling out another game of purgatory, they had to remake it in UE5 ???? for some reason.hope it's good, we'll see idk these guys seem how to know to make decent action games at the least.
I'm beginning to feel the squeeze and really strugged on the world fight. Might have to farm before I attempt Siete and Song electric boogaloo.
>>574075578It means you haven't collected the enhanced version
Who said buffs and debuffs don't work when in overdrive? It seems to work on the target dummy?
Is Gran overall good to have on a team or eh? Feel like his buffs besides the shared damage are pretty lack luster.
Bros... Rosetta is surprisingly... fun.
oh the eternals quest doesnt even hit you that hard its just a dps check, I seeill farm some bullshit real quick Im not making a terminus from scratch
why is a gacha game company the only one with a functioning brain to figure out "people want to fight cool bosses in 4 man co op with rpg mechanics"
does the entire team need path to mastery at 45 or is just one char enough?
>>574076239But gacha companies are the ones that push swapslop.
Take the Percipil
>>574076457A Nier death experience
>>574076457I already didhis nuke is fun but i'm not good enough with him yet and I feel like i'd need to rebuild him and get better summons to get more skill cap for the nukei might try his skill spam build instead and play him as a buff/debuff supporter too
>>574076457I preferred it when you could use his slash move in midscreen combos. Vanilla percy was my favourite. Now everyone has ultimates that reach fullscreen.
I merged a Celestial Lumen + Damage Cap sigil, I assume this is golden?
>>574076239because they don't make as much money as gacha do?
>>574075985You really shouldn't test on the dummy, it has its own quirks.
>>574076717It's ok. Means you won't have to get dmg cap on another sigil.
>>574076845Show me video evidence of this overdrive thing. I cant believe its intentional
>>574076064lol always good to have a gran on your team his buffs and debuffs are very strong
>>574077151I can't be bothered making a clip but you can just go to like an Extreme dragon fight or something, kick it into OD with Cagliostro, poke it with a light attack and then cast Phantasmagoria and poke it again. You'll do the exact same damage, I know because that's how I confirmed it myself.
I'LL FUCKING TAKE ITLet's not be TOO picky now
>>574076239crazy square enix couldn't figure it out
>>574076845Alright yeah, I just tried it against a Chaos++ behemoth and it's real lmao. wtf were they even thinkingBoth buffs and debuffs (Fediel's attack up and stacking 10% def reduction stomps) work while in normal mode, but don't do shit nothing when boss is in overdrive
>>574077643>when the enemy is the most dangerous you cant apply attack down to itThen why give us the option?
>>574077643So does this invalidate the entire buff Master Trait tree that Sandalphon has?
>>574077385nice, which one is better for farming stout heart summons, 4 dragons or behemoth?
gg ez
>>574077758I'd say 4 dragons because the fuckers do not spend 80% of their life jumping around everywhere like a gorilla on meth
>>574077745no because the fights have breaks so buffs are still valuable
>>574077758the skeleton from The Myths Are Real quest also drops behemoths with stout heart despite it not being listed under dropsits also easily afk'd with full assist
>>574077738This is only about things that increase player damage, not about lowering the enemy's damage. I don't think anyone has bothered testing that one.
I guess you're always massively over the cap even when you're running 0 attack
>>574077819right, playing against behemoth with pubs is tiring anyways.>>574077893the quest name and this anecdote makes me feel like it's a joke but i'll try doing it later thank you.
>>574077829I feel like in most endgame fights, bosses are in Overdrive 80% of the timeMost people also save their 4x SBA for when the boss is in Overdrive to end it faster, but maybe it's better to use it when they're not in OD so buffs/debuffs kick in during the window you're beating them up with Celestial Aqua also active
>Seite's 30% DMG up is permanentfuck is that even worth it? the initial set up cooldown is so long
Debuffs not working during overdrive is legitimately one of the most Cygames thing to do so I don't imagine its even a bug.
gran players need to stop running substitute the real gem is running adept play for yourself while still giving your teammates and yourself buffs no point in taking damage for my teammates that cant dodge or parry they have to figure the game out
Is there a cap on supplementary damage? It seems like you could get it really high with the right buffs and the three different sigils
>>574078156debuffs shouldn't work in overdrive
>>574078156It's just for Def down. I haven't seen anyone mention if Atk down is similarly blocked (I highly doubt it). Atk up is also disabled during OD and it's a buff, not a debuff.
>>574078103>makes me feel like its a jokenow that you mention it it kinda does but i swear that it dropsdrops gerasene/scarmiglione/behemoth/ennugi with around 10 or so centrums a fight and the occasional gold book/ambrosiapick a ranged character and afk it, sell off all the dud summons for MSP
>>574078156Maybe its lessons learnt from paralysis and fear bypassing mechanics in early granblue.
>>574078243ok but why is atk up not working in od either? that’s a buff
>>574078161the substitute build gives them a massive buff at max stacks, the covering teammates is just a bonus. unless the gran djeeta is just bad
>the song crux master path only works after 5 minutes have passed>most quests only last 6 - 7 minswhat's the point
>Break the boss>the fucking screen freeze eats my perfect combo input with sieg>6 stacks gone, poof, start over again I am going to fucking scream
>>574077782explode
>>574078473the Charisma stacks are cool but being able to stay in art 4 for longer while getting a 100% damage cap is worth way more in late game fights
>>574067438>The Myths Are Real
>>574078286haha i'll give you the benefit of the doubt FOR NOWi can't afk anything right now since i don't have any character built except for bea and i don't even think i've even unlocked that quest yet like i'm currrently at chaos++ and just about to fight the world but i'll 100% remember that quest now because of its name and drop claims.
>play Vane>wind dragon starts his no-attack tornado spam>purposely run into tornados, blatantly so>idiots start spamming blue potsHoly shit, let me abuse these weak ass attacks to get into soul eruption range. I swear i need that 10% damage sigil that prevents healing in my build sometimes.
>>574078465i just think cygames didnt want to invalidate bosses going into overdrive
What cool tech do you like doing with your character? For me it's doing an XXYY combo as XYXY
>>574078935the multiplier already has a cap of 50% and anyway they already have a mechanic for that, it's called bloodlust. also why didn't they tell us it doesn't work in od then?
>>574067438What's better for stout heart farming, this mission or the chaos++ behemoth reskin mission?
I hate Aya Hirano
Am I supposed to consistently instant block through everything on concentration Io? Spell chain feels awkward as fuck and boring, but it's the only spec I can actually play. actual suffering
>>574079034lol beats me
>>574079386if you play concentration you need low profile desu
Do different Celestia (Element) sigils stack? Like Celestial Lumen + Aqua?
>>574078704do you play danchou? because everyone in was saying support captain was the only mastery worth using. Im not even disagreeing i just want to hear someone else's opinion
>>574079386Just get good at dodging if the boss decides to look your way, you have the room to hop around the lv3 concentration aoe.Currently trying out Nyx Io and shit's hard to get used to.
>>574079630only character i play and they are wrong lmao its actually the worst one
Fortunately cag is still a support god because the DMG up from her Phantasmagoria EX trait still works
>>574079386Improved Dodge + Nimble Onslaught + Low Profile was usually the way I dealt with it, you'll want Improved Dodge anyway to dodge cancel out Stargaze easier.
id pay pig so fucking hard if these guys just made a psuedo mmo with just shit tons of more cool boss fightsbut then again its like why do that when you already have a license to print money
>>574078998I'm not sharing, it's too strong and it might get nerfed If I say.
>Random ML50 Sandalphone>Spends half the fight dead>...On Ruby Golemnalright man
>>574080167beabro..
>>574080167kwab
>>574079386Why? The only things PB has over dodging for Io is not cancelling flowery, and a minor dps gain from not having to stop charging stargaze for a portion of a second.The circle gives you focused and you probably aren't quick casting most of the time.
>>574079545Yes, the best are Ventus, Aqua, and Lumen
>>574079875coggods can't stop winning
Fraux sob story is still lame as fuck
So which AI are considered good? Fraux sometimes competes with me for MVP so I assume she's one of the good ones
>Want to unlock cag to be a good buffslut>Id is actually pretty fun and I want to try him too kinda>They fixed Ferry too
>>574080303>boringchanging spec won't help you anon.she plays similarly enough between all three trees so if you don't like her as it is...
Is it worth building Eustace just for slime blasting?
>pick cag during story so I can have a god support>actually this is kinda fun to play>every other character I try out after feels bad in comparisonI am ruined
>>574080668For >>574079386 probably
>>574080669worth building him just to have him as one of your AIs
>>574080669I tried him with just his>default defender (untranscended)>trash sigils>all fate eps unlocked>master trait 20and he fucking sucks since I only get around 7k MP per run. I don't think I'm willing to invest in him further than that so I'm just going to punch 4 dragons instead.
>>574080569how did they fix ferry? i thought she's still bottom tier
>>574080851Your other bots need to be strong, Eustace is just there to wake them up
>>574080885shes not super strong but she does actually work as intended now, you dont just jump slam
>>574080851Running a team of Eustace with terminus at stage 1 transcend + Siete + Sandal + Backup Eustace and I consistently get around 70k per run on full auto.
>>574080760Whats the skills/style for him?
Can Lilith come with any good skills?
>>574080669He's a good candidate to have as your "playable" character in Full Auto because he actively tries to get closer instead of other ranged unitsAs an actual AI bot he's kind of alrightYou can probably get away without building him at all for slimeblasting then build up a full team for the real AFK farm which is Chaos++ luci
>>574080885I downloaded a mod that gave her a bit of hair on her armpits.
I can't upgrade my terminus weapon fully until AFTER I've beaten all the infinity quests?
>>574081376Nyes, host the lobby.
>>574072059I will never not be mad at them deciding to make Zooey irelevant with cosmos
>>574081014>>574081037>needs more investment in other chars tooDamn and I thought he was supposed to do all the work. Tried him because I don't have a level master trait 50 yet and thought he'd be able to farm MPs for me. I'm just going to get my first level 50 and try him again with a terminus stage 1. I guess he's more of an endgame farm bot when you already have a built character instead of he-helps-you-along-the-way character instead.
Do we have any information on how auras are rolled in conflux? Is there a path that gives calamity and chaos auras more often?
>>574081489Sharts and Farts was legitimately one of, if not THE, worst event ever.
>>574081758It had one redeeming quality at least.
Loaded up the game and hopped into summon farm. Loaded up my glass canon build and everything is fucked - I basically lost all of my progress in the last 24 hours. I am missing sigils I made in the siero blender earlier in the day and am missing some summons I recently farmed, in addition to the wrightstone I recently put on my terminus weapon. Save backups on disk/in steam cloud are fucked too. I only lost about a day's worth of progress but I am so demotivated, and it seems like (according to steam forums) base relink has had a lot of save crash consistency issues that made saves unreadable. Anyone had trouble with this? Straight up thinking of quitting if I am just going to randomly lose progress in a game I have sunk hundreds of hours into.
>>574081436nyo...
Does this mean I can remove the Berserker Echo from my sigils and use something else?
>>574081950yessirbig qol
>>574081875have you checked your folder for backups?
>>574082002>on disk
Maybe a retarded question but does anyone know if the Conflux buffs affect NPCs as well? Also why the hell isn't this an option online?
>>574081950>skill damage 14%no, back to the mines for you
>>574081489
>>574081950War elementalBerserker ecoSpartan eco These are the three you should be looking for in summons
>>574082298I'm in Chaos+ man
>>574081376dumb sheep poster
>Finally get stout heart>Too used to unga my bunga in yellwo clock that I forgot status effect are a thing>Eat glaciate and die
how should i build my AI cag?
By getting war elemental or berserker Spartan echo on a summon you're not really gaining a huge amount. It's at best 6% defense and 10k base HP as an extra for using a summon like that.
>>574082479with love
>soloed infinity with AI>every single fight was dps sweatlord moments with timer usually at 30 seconds or less at the end>C performance across the board>finally unlock infinity Hexa>S++ first tryLegitimately retarded to put the easiest boss behind multiple walls
im trying to find a character to main. Tweyen or rosetta would be best?
>>574082609the gimmick is not dying which AI are great at
>>574082560And the benefit of getting something else in that slot is...?Not needing 4 of each with rolls suited to your AI is a big plus as well.
>>574082479with hate
>>574082609the two gimmicks hexa has are "don't die" and "have frontloaded damage/stun for the trials"
>mods, cheats, afk farm, save scum, "waa muh too grindyyy"I've started to think I should've bought this on console just so I wouldn't be mistaken for one of these “gamers”. I think a jellyfish has more spine AND art absorbing ability than these people. It honestly triggers me an unreasonable amount even if it's a PvE game.
>>574081875I'd take a break until you aren't pissed about it. Save corruption is out of your control and I wouldn't keep playing the game right now after it just fucked you over. I don't think there is a save manager for this game either, so there isn't a way to keep backup autosaves after every mission as a preventative measure. It's not very likely it'll corrupt two days in a row but just the chance it could happen, that would make you quit for good so it's probably better to just play something else for a day or two.
>>574082807the same shit goes on monster hunter sadly
So uh am I missing something or is literally the only choice for Transcendence Defender and MAYBE Stinger if you like the challenge?
>>574082807But you can do all that on console as well, excluding the skin mods
Okay what is up with Sandalphon players, I've seen them more often with the Critical Gauge than literally anything else
the world is easily the second best fight after hexa
>>574083235Where is my damage percentage option in quests?My funny dps chart?
>>574083269hard character to pilot after him being hit with nerfs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOUO_QqOZ_0Lance is in the 500m club
Bros Fediel called me gay...
>>574083371Is he actually hard compared to the cast as a whole now?Or is it just an adjustment period for them?
>>574083325take your meds
>>574083065Transcendence Ascension weapon is basically Terminus but without the HP limit.
>>574083478The only thing they did was reduce his damage so he cant spam ranged attacks in angel form and out DPS the entire cast. Thats for Fediel now.
>>574083478a bit of both
>>574083502>excluding the skin mods>skin modsImplies other mods are on console.written
>>574083443Now if only his players were better. A lot of the other less than popular characters are piloted by gods in my experience but the Lancelot players are a 60-40 coinflip in favor of being shitters.
Still waiting on a nice lewd mod for Bea... I want to see MORE of her.
>>574083651retard
>>574083443this might be one of the more impractical ones I've seen
Besides regular damage cap, which of the new damage cap sigils are worth using? The overdrive one and the one where your HP has to be above a certain % seem good right?
>>574084232lumen and terra
just beat the eternals by cheesing them with support Danchou + Yodarhar as my AIi forgot this shit is an ARPG and not monster hunter, what a stupid fucking synergy lmao
>>574084232https://rentry.co/ytczavomtldr lumen fatebreaker aqua ventus immortal shell
Still looking for that one Ghanda main
Speaking of the celestial sigils.Why is the water one the way it is?Dark/Wind have both been enmity elements in the past, so the effects fit.Light was stamina king 60% of the series lifespan.Fire for overdrive assassins.Earth gets the biggest drawback.And then water gets a break effect for some reason?
>>574084232lumen=terra>ventus>aqua>fatebreakeryou can eventually fit all of them once you get summons with the echos and war elemental
>>574083657I still saw 1 of the player keep seiya the whole fight during last siete and song, we failed that fight but at least we got it to like 20%The other magi also keep dying too so I can't really put the blame on him
don't get celestial terra unless you're suicidal
>>574084564I've no idea what are you talkingthe upgrade mats for sigil?
I dont play the mobile game but I'm confused as to why Summons werent a basegame feature, isn't that what the whole series is about?also is Lyria bottomless
>>574084808gacha element theming.wind and dark have low health/no healing celestials because they're were the prominent low health=big damage elements.light got the high health celestial for the reverse reason, etc.
>>574084823I think in the interviews leading up to it, they said they wanted to but couldn't get it working right in time, or something.And not here, unless you mod them off.
>celestial ventusIsnt this suicidal? What bypasses this no heal rule?
How's the performance of this compared to base game? Did they ever optimize it? My 9-year-old budget PC wasn't doing too good when I played last year.
>>574085021You can still heal yourself with potions. It just nullifies other player's blue pots on you
How tedious is unlocking the Seofon and Tweyen is? Should I just creamapi the DLC to skip it? I already beaten chapter 0 btw
>japanese tweyen drained the entire critical bar by herself against faawhy are japs so bad
>>574085090Bro stop using ancient tech. The game on release was already well enough optimized. Maybe stick to playing flash games.
>>574085090The game was always optimized just not for a decade old budget pc
>>574085021The only thing it prevents is other players healing you in anyway, pots, skills, whatever. You still get buffs like Kats invincibility, yoda's mirror image, and cag's 100k shield.
>>574085021I prefer incendo because most chaos boss have long overdrive
>>57408535050 is less that 70 and fatebreaker does the same thing with no constraints
>>574085189either a foid or lag or both
If they're going to force conflux on me why the hell can't I use a borrow character for it?
>>574085607because you get to break the game with auras instead
So do you HAVE to block bubs snare instead of dodging it, or is the window just extra tight for a dodge?
should I run dragonform Id, or godmight Id?godmight seems to deal more damage on dummy, but i have to swing for like 5 seconds
>>574085680red is undodgable, yellow is unblockable
I wanna lick Fraux's feet, every time someone plays her in my lobby I want to furiously jerk off while they berate me with the "how embarassing" sticker
I see people write guides with "class sigil+ skill" but you can't combine class sigils, do they just save scam gamble all the time?
>>574085761godmight has more damage, like a lot moreyou can skip the big finisher and just use the standard finisher (the one you get after using a skill) and still outdps dragonform
>>574085854LETS GO GAMBLINGCHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK CHCK AW DANGIT
The end game after finishing the main story of the base game is the most boring shit I've ever doneCouldn't they mix in new bosses? From hard until maniac it's literally a third repeat of the campaign bosses
>>574086109don't worry, you'll be fighting them again in the dlc :^)
>>574086048thanks, feels bad whenever i enter dragonform and have to do the humiliation ritual though
smiley ragnalia took 15 minutes with my single terminus weapon lol I dont know what i should be building from here
>have to level up Mephisto's Waltz just to progress storyAAAAAAAA FUCK OFF I'M ALREADY RUNNING LOW ON THESE LARGE CRYSTALS TRASCENDING EVERYTHING
Name characters that you refuse to play for arbitrary reason.I'll start. Zeta, Io and Fraux because I really don't like twintails hairstyle.
>>574086676potatoes because potatolancelot and vane because homodjeeta because gran is canon and cooler
>>574055531>Monster Hunter G, the original 2005 expansion that introduced G-Rank, added 14 new monsters to the series (1 small and 13 large). These mainly consisted of stronger, COLOR-swapped subspecies of existing creatures, including the series' first flagship monster, Azure Rathalos.>Bird Wyverns: Blue Yian Kut-Ku, Purple Gypceros, Flying Wyverns: Azure Rathalos, Pink Rathian, Silver Rathalos, Gold Rathian, Black Gravios, Red Khezu, Black Diablos, White Monoblos >Piscine Wyverns: Green Plesioth>Elder Dragons: Ashen Lao-Shan Lung, Crimson Fatalis
>>574086809Delicate hand Gran isn't canon.I refuse to believe it
>>574086676I refuse to play any character who isn't named io, charlotta, or maggy because I'm not a faggot or a hag lover.
Does godmight Id need cooldown reduction? He has cd refresh anyway so cdr doesn't matter right?
>>574087068maglielle is a hag you absolute fucking posergod I hate you. you do not deserve to say you aren't a faggot
>>574087068Anon... Box is 24 and Maglielle is 27.
>>574086676>midgetsObvious reason>Vas/GhandaToo freaking slow.>lancelotDual blades are gross>songI really don't like the look of her knockback on normals. Feels like it'd annoy me a little
>>574087068Cag bros?
>>574086676Vane/Ghanda because they didnt deserve to get in.
>>574084441>i need to replay the story for the crabs>and i still need to find their dark brothers after thatwhat in the goddamn
anyone manage to S++ infinity Faa yet?no matter who i play with we always fail the hp down and time limit challenges
>>574087325Dark crabs are in the old zones?
>>574081950The "best" set of summons is Uncaps with any skills that reach their peak at Lv15 since your Terminus will give +2 levels to every other skill from your sigils, so on top of what >>574082331 listed, you also have other valid skills like Potion hoarder, Stout Heart and all the Celestial skills.
>pub furican++>danchou and sieg in party>HP never dips below 90% what the fuck we facetanked everything, even the tornadoes
Are Fraux's unique sigils worth using?Enchantress' Warpath, Rhythm and Blessing
I'm thoroughly unimpressed by this expansion so far. It's like they looked at the base game, saw what people hated and decided to double down.Bahamut fight? Let's throw in all these fucking adds or extra bosses just to off-screen you when you need to focus on the main threat.The bosses as well? All just recolours/reskins with a few new tricks up their sleeve or the aforementioned extra additions just to frustrate you.Ironically the only boss I have no issues with is the Behemoth reskin because the eyes are gone now (an unimprovement) and there's only maybe 2 new attacks you hve to watch out for. He's still a shit to fight as melee though.
>>574087619All of them are for the most part.Damage up that bypasses cap, cap up, and gauge boosts.
>>574087618I've been tellin you supports are the actual broke shit in this game
>>574087659wait for content updates then lol
>>574087659adds are fun, they add chaos, plates to spin, and a threat that can be disabled or ignored at your choiceI think more fights could use them. I liked behemoth so much when he was hard
>>574087659>unimprovementAn improvement rather.>>574087740If this is the calibre of their expansion pack they took 2 year to shit out then I don't know if I even want to stick around. This shit isn't fun or hard/challenging in a good way, just frustrating.I guess this is what happens when you let something nice stick around too long without improvement or pushing the envelope in any meaningful way. It just comes back to annoy you.
>infinity+ bosses>Bubs gets his fourth phase
>>574087695but what about dicks per second checks
>>574087659Yikes!
>>574087659I'm the complete oppositeI just beat the infinity quests and I'm so impressed by what they cobbled together for the expansion.The chaos quests kept going and going and going, and when I finally beat the game, these four new superniggas showed up in their own menuI pumped my master trait to level 30 thinking that's thatIt fucking unlocked up to level 50 with a new set of perksAnd then you could just keep dumping MSP into it and get even more stuffThe only part I don't like is the amount of cutscenes and bloodthirst invulnerability phases. It seems like they gave bosses at least 1 new bloodthirst mechanic where you lose uptime dodging baby easy stuffMeanwhile the Seofon Tweyen fight has like EIGHT CUTSCENE BRO JUST LET ME PLAY THE GAME
>>574087947they are not that hard to mee and most of them are actually stun/meter output checks
Tank Sieg or Tank Danchou?
>>574088010not that hard to meet* support characters can do them, particularly if they're all just buffing the shit out of each other and breaking caps
>>574088006I'm only up to Bahamut 2.0 so far so I'm hoping infinity endgame is as good as you say.That said, given the way the content leading up to it so far has been, I'm not expecting much.
>>574088087Cag/Sieg/Rose/DanchouandYoda/Kat/Cag/Vaneboth sound pretty fun desu
>>574087343I did it with randos within 4 successful runs, maybe got lucky
Does war elemental matter anymore in Chaos++? Is that a good thing to swap away for moar damage caps?
It's funny how hard they try to handhold new people through a story they wouldn't undestand and then also decide throw in Orologia for 2 seconds and the big hype moment makes zero sense without having context from the gacha.
>>574088224>>574088087I think the devs watched too much "kicked out of the party for being a support class" anime
>>574087898lol what boss is filtering you let me guess zero 2.0
>>574088086attack danchou is the real move
>>574088490bro I don't think that anime existsthe opposite anime exists in spades though
>>574088540I would like to try that but I can't dodge shit or perfect parry
>>574088490If that was true Ferry wouldn't be garbage
>>574088287No war elemental is one of the best sigils in the game alongside Spartan and Berserk echoIt even gets stronger once you get the EX mastery beyond M30
Thrice I played with c*nsole players and they didn't commend after the mission. I'm turning crossplay off, fuck you.
>>574088006>Seofon & Tweyen fight>Do a full chainburst because why not>Okay burst done time to hit again>Suddenly Seofon said something like okay my turn now>Hit me with a counter ougiPretty kino ngl
>>574088635Don't tell him that, let him take off 20% added damage after damage calculations
>>574086441You only need to give it 1 level
>>574088006>The only part I don't like is the amount of cutscenesThis, I can fully agree with. Holy fucking shit is it grating when the fight get interrupted for a cutscene for the third fucking times, I can tolerate it when it's the first time you fight it, but every single reruns? Nigga stop.
yeah stop outdamaging me with your broken overpowered sigilsif I see war elemental I'm leaving
>>574078704Charisma stacks are a 1.8x final damage damge cap bypassing mulitiplier. I like dps cap too but the 100% damage cap from that tree pales in comparison
>>574085019I feel like the DLC should've incorporated the low level summons into the base game drops, you blow past the weaker ones so fast in Chaos
what's the best exp method? I didn't grab like half the playable characters for termina gambling before ER
This was really cutting it close.I didn't have my mastery traits maxed out and still saved the run at points lol
>>574079630Captain main here. Combat healer is AI fodder at best, it feels terrible to play. Substitute can be played hybrid dps taking advantage of the massive damage mulitplier, but suffers from having only 2 damage skill slots cause you gotta run sub and phalanx. Dps build is solid and has a fun niche as debuff spammer too
>>574088496None in particular. I was just never a fan of "let's throw more than 1 boss at a player. Never worked in Nioh, never worked here.Luci 2.0 shouldn't be an issue... hopefully....
>>574085021Its only bad because it means Cag's overheal shield can't actually shield you
>>574089073it does tho
>>574089073But it does?
>>574084441Stop shilling your autism
>>574089073Cag has a trait that converts his heal entirely to shields
>>574088982The deeper you get into Chaos difficulty, the more maxed out they are out of the gate. I think they're level 100 + mastery 10 in Chaos+ then level 100+mastery 20 in ++. Starter weapons are also maxed.
Alright eustace bros whats the secret crack build here, I borrowed one since I didn't have a 4th character properly built and he's been making infinity runs much smoother.
>>574089219oh based didn't know that
>>574089327Chaos also just starts shitting Gold Spellbooks into your inventory so it doesn't take much at all to get any stragglers to 100
>>574088321I didn't even know that's oro without anon mentioning it
>That recent post on the relink official accountHow did faggots completely take over granblue?
>>574089243I felt Eustace was just alright, really any fully built 4th character makes a huge difference
>BEA CLOCK BUILD GUIDEXYCLOCKXYCLOCKXYSANDABIRDO YYRIDING FREEEEEEE YYXXYYYY (repeat this until clock is no longer spinning!)
>>574089514This is too complicated for Beabrains.
>>574089243Honestly, no clue, I built him with the laser beam tree and, honestly it works, doesn't seem completely bonker, but doesn't seem absurdly weak either, just appear a bit below average (but maybe I just blow, I'm not above being bad), I do love how he first appeared to be incredibly janky, but turned out to be extremely smooth to play, his movement options are deceptively good.I have to put myself in danger on fucking purpose to make it fun though, if I want to I can easily sit back and just keep firing indefinitely.
>>574089073You can and that actually benefits you more
>>574089396I thought the screen distortion + casualty mention was pretty obvious desu...>>574089649obtain the shotgun.be free from the zoning tendencies
>>574089783I was too focus on the fight and thought it was fediel speakingNow I'll have to fight it again and hope the dialogue are still there for my refight
So Oro for DLC?
>>574089783Shotgunstace is a lots of fun too, but honestly I prefer the normal shots, I find the flexibility it allows quite nice to have.Also, does anyone else find Eustace's model in Relink really wide looking? It's some aspect raidou kinda shit.
>just realized i didn't get 150% mastery for defense because I just assumed it only gave it for offenseMaybe I am just stupid?
Seofon & Tweyen should've got an Infinity variant.
>>574089514Is this better than the devourer tree where you justSKILLYSKILLYSKILLYDOOOOOORRRYYYAAA
>>574089964We love glue eaters here.
can someone tell me how tf am I supposed to access the new DLC content? I tried googling and it said that I need to talk to Zathba hencman, but I cant find him
what's your favorite character and why?I'm finding most of them to be a bit too simple and repetitive
>>574090121If you run near the docks in seedhollow a little nigga will tell you to go do the ConfluxOnce you've caught up on the Conflux shit they inserted into the base game story you can do the expansion
why do some characters only have 4 weapons?
>>574089243AI Eustace never fucks up the dodge/parry timing, so perfectionist tree always works at 100% effectiveness.If you want to control him, lightning or shotgun are the way to go
>>574089882I'd rather fight him personally, but them using the music for hexa kind of kills that sadly.Non-Dragon babble lyrics for those who first heard it in relinkhttps://youtu.be/tW4mrqAdJUQ
what transcendence is good for progression? stinger?
>>574090342defender is best for progressiongood damage and good survivability
>Another fucking section of the Mastery Tree once you hit a certain point in your Mastery TraitsFucking hell...
When the fuck do these Transcendence weapons become even useable? Ive upgraded my Defender to +5 and its still a pretty hard downgrade to my maxed Terminus.
>>5740902404 weapons are for the "post game" charactersHonestly prefer it since it's less weapons to max for masteries
I'm a perfect dodge perfect block god. Who should I play?
>it's another episode of everyone is using their ougi on the paradise lost at 25% instead of saving it for the end at 10%
>>574090390I used my terminus until after unlocking Ascension Transcends
Who are some good AI's? Captain and my Zeta seem to be really lagging on damage against bosses like Bub and Lucilius, even if it's a comfortable clear on Chaos++
>>574090376do you like the grindan game?
>>574090456couldn't be me, I'm still at 60% SBA gauge when everyone else is nearing 100% so if they're not using it before me there's a reason they're saving it so I won't use it either
>>574090390Use a Stunner instead.Don't be fooled by training dummy numbers.
>>574090390I think ascension is when it genuinely starts getting betterthe transcendences are designed for people who dont have fully decked out kits, as G rank expansions tend to do
>>574090570Sieg/Cag + Flex slot, for me it's Eustace
>>574089497I mean probably. Just saw a huge difference from barely clutching up bubs at 30 seconds to clearing him with 3 min to spare and he was always leading in SBA charge. Granted for whatever reason my own AI fraux whos only ML50+3 took MVP which I'm fairly sure is just honors jank>>574090296Does that still work if I'm running a stout heart summon and I'm playing substitution captain? I've noticed the AI is doing that old thing of being fine taking a hit through an animation if it won't kill them and substitution means they have my health pool to draw from as well so I usually notice my AI take a lot of hits>>574090456Isn't the real trick to SBA full burst just before the 10% so that he doesn't get the 30% dmg cut?
>>574090221Alright I found the lil nigga, now how do I unlock the next conflux cycle? this shit is so confusing for someone who beaten the game on release and just came back, there's no new hard quest or anything in my quest list
>do Bubs pubs>nobody follows up after my SBA even though everyone has the meter for it>Bubs gets free Bloodlust triggers and kills the scrub squad >raid fails because of course it did>get the same bozos two more times in a row>they still aren't doing SBA chainsDon't play Relink at 4 AM
>damage cap>fatebreaker>spartan echo>berserker echo>Celestial Lumen>supernova>unbound strikeMy damage is still dogshit, what am I missing here?
>>574089514why XXYY instead of pressing a 3rd skill
>Decide to reorganize my masteries tree>Most notably get rid of useless crit rate+ perks I had taken until I could get my stuff in order>Disable two whole fucking mastery ranks without realizing it
>>574090782Make sure you're not playing a dogshit character
>>574090440Vengeance Id.
>>574090390Defender at 5 should be better than Termimus easily shouldn't itNot only is it more damage cap, but it gives you a huge HP increase that will let you run both Spartan and Berserker Echo
>>574090748got to the folca I think?The game literally tell you that though
>>574090748Progress story, the game will tell you totalk to him again
>>574090309>That won't do at all, the pieces won't fit together.>I need something more than a miracle.Rein ain't got shit on our real parent>>574090440Yoda
>>574090570Essence Sieg, Cruz Cag and Essence Percival.
>>574090002I believe all Bea trees are equal and a matter of preference>>574090783A finisher after a skill gives 4 stacks of the ten-stacking buff. Attack chains give as many stacks as you press X before the finisher. So two skills and an XX combo give exactly 10 stacks and I also run the dodge ability for increased mobility and free finishers after dodging with it
Did the game lie to me? Where the fuck is my Transmarvel pulls for leveling up?
>>574091020max damage beaclock is skill -> finisher -> dodge cancel your landing -> clock shiftrepeat until full clockusing your X combo is too much of a dps loss
>>574090993>Relink universe is just one of Oros simulationsGoddammit
>>574091084I am talking after you get all three + buffs, anon. At that point, you don't need to change clocks while you get the 10 stacks
>>574091046sorry you got regular tickets instead
>>574090776what kind of ryetard would not click the shiny SBA button? I just press that shit the moment my gauge is maxed.
>>574091105always has been
>>574091215song player?
After playing Sandalphon, I find myself becoming attracted to men. He's so polite and dreamy.
full auto'd that skeleton quest like 20 timeswhen do i get my stout heart
>>574091215NTA. Personally I hold it for when the boss is at a major threshold and about to likely do an annoying mechanic in hopes of doing enough damage to phaseskip. But if someone else SBA's I just go "fuck it" and join in. But you both need to remember more brown inbred monkeys have access to internet than ever before and pollute public lobbies and anything less than 60 IQ retardation is an objectively wrong assumption to go into when pubbing with randoms. Just host lobbies and post them her or shut the fuck up.
I've only had good lobbies here so far
What is the single strongest move in the game? Percival's stab with max stacks?
>>574091464You should get into coffee.
I play in SEA so I always get cheaters carrying me.
Boatamut fight on Eustace is absolute aids, not in the sense that it's hard, it's somehow even more boring than usual
is it possible to do Solo + AI Infinity quests without the weapons from infinity? asking this because the mobile game does this bullshit a lot where the minimum gear for a raid is the raid drops (they expect you to leech for like 200 runs)
>>574091737Try Io, her level 5 starfall actually has a very short vertical range so it whiffs constantly in so many fights
Is there a point to killing Id on Versa or are you better off just ignoring him?
I genuienly have no idea what they're talking about in all these lore dumps, it's like it's clearly meant for people who played the gacha game.I skip cutscenes btw I only play this game for fights.
Okay yeah yeah the AI can't do the mechanic for the damage boost but jesus christ why the hell is infinity Versa so tight and time wastey. Like the AI wasn't even shooting ??? 99% of the time, versa just flew off way too many times. Cool when it gives me time to knock out ??? less so when I just gotta watch the clock tick down and twiddle my thumbs. Almost thought I wouldn't make it but link time clutched it up. Of all the ones so far this and faa-san felt the most difficult to overcome. world is a gimmick fight that I still managed to easily clear despite maybe pulling a parry off 1 in 3 times, and bubs felt very doable despite it being a close call.>>574091769I beat world and bubs with just ascension weapons. The eustace I'm borrowing I think is using a terminus but fully built I think it should be fine even without termies
fraux sexo
how tight are the infinity quest timers? can I still run support builds without griefing?
>>574091769I love how horrible that game is, like you need to leech the raid until you farmed out one element for it so that you can actually start farming itassuming that you have the perma offrate seasonals, of course
>>574091915Bahamut kidnapped Rein(Gran/Djeeta's mom) by possesing her body and became Versusia because Gallanth(Gran/Djeeta's dad) refused to give Vyrn to him. He then took flight to Estalucia(afterlife) and battling Bahamut for the last 15 years
>>574091915>>574092157I liked it better when we didnt know what was happening and we just assumed it was a HunterxHunter situation where the dad was a deadbeat
Wait are we seriously not able to do the Conflux online? This shit takes ages with CPU.
>>574092157I still don't get it.Who is the Dio guy btw?
>>574091769How do the guys you leech from get the gear?
>>574092368they play primal
>>574091890Proud Versa? Just ignoreInfinity Versa? You need to kill him once for the buff, but killing him twice will cause team damage to you
>>574092330He's beelzebub and part of the angel saga and want to reign the sky for no reasonJust beat the ass out of himHe's also an Astral
>>574092260Level the power of your AI first so you can clear faster
Is it true that I shouldnt unlock any charachter that I wont use until the very endgaem (I need to grind a specific weapon or something?) Like it affect the drop poll or something I geuss
Which Mastery Trait for AI Siegfried? Can he reliably stack Perfect Executions or should I just play it safe with the Substitute one?
>>574092681they stop leveling up at 60 with mastery level 20 so you're not escaping the chaos slime grind no matter what. So just pick up what youd like
>>574092681I recently started and used the base characters for the entire main story and then changed to a completely different party at end game, worked fineI think it's if you change at end game not any time before that
>>574092330https://youtu.be/AWMZNL2Ou_A
>>574092681they removed the terminus weapon drop bullshit and didnt replicate it so just pick whoever you want
beatrice is so loud
>>574092531>be the Astral equivalent of Gran/Djeeta in terms of plot armour due to Singularity status>still job every single dayBeelzebub is the one true king of jobbers
i feel like Hexa got nerfed by time constraints, it really feels like it shouldve been a culmination of fighting all the 6 dragons but they gave up on the idea
>>574092531Beelzebub's VA is Konishi not Koyasu
>>574092840That's not very nice, I suppose.
>>574092861>>574092531the Singularity is probably the lamest concept ever for what it does to every other character. Being a singularity means you have free will entirely and infinite growth, you can do whatever you want if you want it badly enough. But it implies every other character is bound by their fate, regardless of if its good or bad, and every character thats aware of this concept just accepts that they don't really have a choice in their life
>>574092881That was literally never going to happen when Galleon is literally 500000 feet tall.
>>574092368The gods that have gear/grids that require money
>>574092330Bahamut is cleaved in multiple parts following the last Rebirth and destruction he did which created the skyverse, Astral and Sky Baha are the two major fragments, one of the smaller fragments was implanted into Id and became Baha Verse, the bahamut Lyria occasionally summons was another experiment made by the Erste empire the two major bahamuts fragments fight over who gets to be big spoon for their eventual merger with Vryn being a restoration vessel to help Astral Bahamut emerge victorious, which is also why Gallanth refused to give him over.>Who is the Dio guy btwYou mean Bubs or the World? Bubs was a villain written to be the bad guy for Versus, he's meant to be a contrasting "singularity" to Danchou but he's mostly just known for being a jobber who's jealous of Luci being superior to him. The World is an primal created by astrals to simulate realities to help them win the war but he went rogue and like most higher beings in the Skydom now wants to end this world because Bahamut is not a good creator god, really read Fraux's last fate entry if you want the best short descriptor of him.
>>574093025ok but they have human forms alsoall the dragons are a billion feet tall including Hexa, who is the size of an island supposedly.
>>574092891I'm pretty sure by dio guy he means this jobber pose
>>574092681Yes and unlocking them late also levels them, their weapon,m and their mastery.
The Vegeta of Grub...
>>574093023You misunderstand the concept. Singularities have free will, yea, but the only thing that allows them to do thats different from other people is fight God (or in this case Bahamut) because they deem your resistance necessary for the worlds survival. There is nothing exactly special about Danchou or Bubz except for the fact that they are allowed to fight God
>>574093147It's literlally him
>>574093147I thought he meant lucilius cuz he put his head on lucifer's body
My first time got robbed by 3 feddies. Final boss more like loot pinata with some cardio in the middle.
*mogs you*
>>574093207He should chill out a little and try banging some women.
>>574079890Slotted all of this and holy shit it's so much better, didn't even know dodging doesn't cancel Stargaze charge. It's actually pretty kino and fun that you can just perfect dodge and invuln through everything and keep charging SG5Now I got a new problem though. Leylines DoT is draining my HP quite fast and my only sustain is chugging pots. How am I supposed to sustain myself io anon?
>>574093390Aren't Bubs and Shalem literally r63'd clones of one another?
>>574093207He tries his best
>>574092368Back in the day people get their gear from magna raids with a limit room of 30 so you can do whatever.Also people just bring Yoda and nuke the boss with 999.999 plain damage ougi lol.
>>574093476There was so much fucking cloning going on I honestly can't remember. Pretty sure she was speaker-related somehow too
>>574093449nta, you either fit in regen/divergence/drain wherever you can (the higher your map hp the less effective drain is)Or like me you give up on it all and play Nyx Io.
>>574093476bubs/shalem and lucilius/sahar are counterparts but not in rolethey arent exactly clones just people made from the same blueprint by different bahamuts
>>574093476Yeah, but Shalem never think of him as anything special, she blasted him and pandemonium together after the crew done with him
Know that if you are playing Fraux, I've masturbated to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ZQ9wwojNEthe pink gremlin is doing math again for this game
>>574093694why does she sound like she's retarded?
for cutieshttps://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1EA5FDUojO0antVO18JpvGYJTnRl0FjQJjJ24rv57kzQ>>574093694spread has had updated Io caps for a little bit now.
>>574091606I just have fun with randos, I don't care if they can do mechanics. The co-op is fun by itself since I can solo grind anything I want anyway. It's just a game man, I've played WoW for years with even more retarded troglodytes like Classic Paladins and this shit is nothing new to me.
Don't let all this lore distract you from the fact that base plot is about a dumb shizo lizard fighting against his split personality
>>574093687The jingling of her shoes makes my brain tingle
>>574093820I'm going to wait for the completed sheet.
So what's a decent damage parse? Just in general, to clear stuff
What is it that I'm missing on this one?
>>574094063Hexa dragon
>>574094063beat the 4 infinity quests to unlock it
>>574094176Ah, that will have to wait then, a friend want to do this together;
>>574094269make sure you have at least 250 stun power for them
>>574093910Relink has a story?
Is Eustace fun?
>>574094359Think this'll cut it?I do need to get a better duracell for my weapon, and maybe some better summons on the way, so far the only thing that gave us real trouble was Chaos++ Lucilius with how much of a visual clusterfuck the fight is, but beyond that generally smooth sailing.
>>574094560yeah
>>574094503He's okay, do have some really long ass CDs so you will definitely have a distinct impression of doing jack but spamming bang bang bang bang bang bang for a lots of time.>>574094653Cool beans, thanks bro.
Why is boss Mag so cool and playable Mag is so lame and boring?
>>574093898need her as a playable character.
>>574094982Maglielle is a threat only if Gallanza is around.
Is Maggy's C3 finisher supposed to act retarded?
Jeez thats that, all infinity bosses down with just me and the AI. Tank captain can be very fun but man my damage was still probably ass so a lot of them came down to the wire. Honestly forgot that the little dude carried like half the bosses HP during the final phase so panic substituted to get the cooldowns for an emergency SBA. With how much the AI was getting hit it was kinda like a mini-link time for me, shame it killed me and cost me the no deaths trophy but I'm not gonna complain about a clear on a run I felt would amount to nothing. On a side-note how the hell are people hitting 60k+?
>>574088626ferry is a support?
>>574095221>half a million hpJesus
>>574094503YJK
>>574094503no white woman is safe from this duo
>>574095505The wolf inside him...
THESE ERUNES ARE FUCKING THE DOGS
>>574095406Its fun if super inefficient, clarity + divergence would tick my hp for 45k at a time so I really didn't care about any of the infinity bosses hitting me except for faa-san. I even managed to survive the final swoop of attack of bubs' hail to the king without guts proccing. I've died far more times to the AI resetting my cooldowns/committing suicide than the bosses actually hitting me except for faa-san, fuck faa-san
Getting quick matched into proud behemoth for the first time and for the size of that thing he sure moves quickly.>>574095221Gratz bro and that is one tanky looking Gran
>>574095210For some reason it doesn't lock on like every other move movable aoe and you have to manually push it forward.
what kind of stuff is Io looking for right off the bat when starting endless ragnarok? im only doing like 50% cap off starfall V
>>574095845fatebreaker
>>574095221>time left 30secbro really just spammed support skills and let the AI do dps
>>574095878they already give u one off the bat though...
>>574095845On the right dummy?
Is there a list of which summons can have which skills and where they drop? I need spartan and war elemental, thankfully I already got berserk on an ice dragon.
>>574096145whaddya mean the right dummy
>>574091464His character song is stuck in my head.https://www.youtube.com/live/Kb8ChL3ABZA?si=6sbrbujjWOl5IL0J&t=13722https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okzNl1R3iz4
>>574096180iirc Rolan can roll war elementalBeelzebub can roll spartanno list yet because no public datamine yet
>>574096185If you don't set the dummy hp to chaos fatebreaker won't work
>>574096295amazing, i checked and it does 70%guess thats the best i can do at this low level lol
I hate that Percy's charge parry doesn't have any invincibility so you parry the first hit and then eat shit while the actual charge attack is happening.
>>574096379Submit feedback
are the enemies in conflux 4 supposed to be like, really really tanky?
>>574096950About the same as enemies you fight when unlocking it
>>574097026oh thats a bad sign
Just got to maniac difficulty and going into training I'm doing 130-140% under damage cap. Even if I equip one of the damage cap V traits I still deal damage at 130-130%Are you supposed to equip more of the DMG cap traits?
>>574097082yeah, a lot of them in fact
>>574097082The entire endgame is designed around you stacking as much damage cap as you can
>>574097082Go into your sigil equip menu and view the sigil trait details and you'll see damage cap as a category can have 65 levels in your grid. Exactly enough for 4 level 15 sigils.
>>574095916One of them doesn't seem like AI
>>574097606>it's actually borrowed supportnvm me, I'm retarded
>>574090342Defender, can swap to Ascension when available if you're fine using at least one HP or defense sigil
>>574096346One of the Mastery traits everyone has gives you Attack% per Attack sigilSo you won't need to worry much about being under the cap if you put a point in that
>>574095720Thanks I look forward to letting my boy rest and playing another character to find what damage is supposed to look like>>574095916In my defense I was built for defense. Also I didn't realize that the fediel I borrowed had glass cannon and since substitute apparently neuters the AI's ability to dodge she kept getting dizzy'd
I am being funneled into concentration Io help
I'm once again asking for a picture of Charlotta in a nazi uniform
This game needs more female draphs
>>574098453Ladiva.
I dont understand people who stuck with terminus weapons to the end of the gameI am already at like 175k and i just beat a crab to death
If I have a summon that have normal attack damage cap+, will that also increase the damage of Y attacks like stargaze?
>>574098734yes
>>574098723Just get some def instead of stacking hp
>>574098763thanks anon!
>>574098776the defender weapon comes with Garrison
>Try Beatrix>Do a single lower tier run of the Roguelike mode>Shes so fucking annoying im literally never playing her againDoes everyone who plays her play with the game muted?
>20% cap up for a white sigil from masteries>there's two of these nodesJesus that's almost as much as a lvl 15 cap up sigil Does each node has it's own 5-sigil cap or do they count to a combined 100%?
>>574098994who has 2?
Is Percival building 9 stocks and then getting a super nuke a thing in the gacha or did they take that from Rising?
>>574099037Everyone? It's a tier 2? or 3 node on every character as well as 30-50 node on every character.
>>574099037Isn't it everyone? One in EX and one in rank 3 of the same style
Damn Zeta is so fun.
>>574098453Gimme Izmir in either game. She is cool.
>>574099561What is the kot exclaiming at?
Luv me SiegfriedLuv me GhandagozaLuv me YodaLuv me PercivalLuv me NarmayaWish it was easier to level multiple characters. Well that and I wish Gallanza wasn't so fucking boring because I really wanted to play him during the campaign.
>>574099164his most recent unit nukes the enemy after every attack once you stack 7+ burns on the boss from any source.previous units had him nuke or reset skills by consuming stack as well.
>>574099961>slime for 5 hours just to figure out the charadcter does zero damageI'm not gonna do that again
>>574099892Cryinge
>>574100020A good slime AFK can achieve full MST for a character in like two hours.
Just failed my first quest getting matched into Pageant of Might and Magic from quick match. I don't even have this quest unlocked yet as I haven't cleared the other proud quests yet. People dying left and right and honestly I doubt we would've even made it given the time limit.
the Black
>>574100419I don't know what that fight is
Do you think you could get Fediel to do wild stuff if you tell her it's what dyads would do?
>>574100194What's a good slime afk?
Now that buffs make you go overcap, how strong is Jammed?
>>574100419Damn getting matched into of the post-launch gauntlets is rough. The funny part is IIRC pageant of might and magic is the easier of the two gauntlets
>>574100194Does the ai even attack the dormant slimes?
>>574100745yes
>>574100842Eustace doeswhich is enough to trigger a chain reactionyou Borrow another Eustace and it clears it at S++ score every time
>>574100873god i love dragons
our patroness saint of math and big Io numbers has put out a videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ZQ9wwojNE
>>574100926kys tranny
Fediel "the black" My nubian queen
>>574100756Eustace Main, he doesn't need to be well built, just needs to tag slimes for your AI to chase,Two good well built AI's, ideally range (Io, Eugen, Rackum etc.)Then flex of whatever Backup helps you round your team, I run a Backup Naru with her provoke skill to aggro the regular pots, usually the team averages 80-100 kills per quest, occasionally you get a dud round where Eustace just didn't get into a good position to keep the chain up.>>574100882I find a Backup Eustace can sometimes cause a dud run where they just stand still, you're better off running a character with AoE hos for consistency.
>>574100726Boss rush type of a quest and I was in disbelief when one of the goals was to kill 6 bosses and I thought just fighting the second one was already hard.>>574100827We made it to Maglielle, but critical gauge caught up with that many deaths. Granted I still do not believe we would've made it through the time limit itself. Very suprising thing to get matched into and actually felt like a very difficult quest compared to what I've been dealing with for now. Couple of the proud quests that I've done are definitely challenging, but this one felt like I'm not sure I'm even ready for.
>>574100745You're making me wish this was longer.https://exhentai.org/g/2020287/fa07284c4a/ Too much of the stuff with her is too rough or has Galleon getting more of the screentime.
>>574101252you know what they say. once you go black..
getting filtered in chaos++I'm at the part where I have 3 new missions - bahamut, lucillius, and beelzebubI couldn't beat bub or lucillius and haven't tried bahamut yet. Is this a certified git gud moment where it'll get easier when I get better at the fights and dodge timings, or is this the point where I gotta go back to the drawing board and make a proper AI team that has more synergy than just running 4 cute anime girls (or worse, get carried by fediels in MP)
"What are you talking bout, Singularity?"REparations to your race, my caramel muse"but Singularity, I'm not black, I'm THE Black"Shhhh, my ebony goddess. When a black woman speaks, I listen
>Get to the point where I don't have to only farm fortitude crystal, but fucking grand refinium I as wellShid
>>574100419open the lobby if you need carry
>>574101507Baha sucks cause he has the clone and your AI will be to retarded to not kill it every timebubs should be fineIdk about AI in faa
orologia really needs to be a patch bosshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23F9jHEKZV4
>chaos managarmr with randoms
>>574098723I just met a sandy with 39k hp in c++ pyeta
>>574098949of course notwe embrace the DORYAHHH
>>574101252Miach's cumdump.
Natural defenses needs a buff, It should be 70% instead of 30%Also I should make a turbo button for lancelot
Which skills for “I CAST SWORD” Siete.Obviously Infiniti Creare, and the Gauge skill.Gap closer seems a no brainer, but for the last slot, the remaining choices feel like filler.Seven Star Brilliance does have meme potential of two back to back full chains though.
>>574098949DE ARIMASU
>>574101825Not a bad idea though logia still isn't a raid boss in the gacha yet. I'd be down for Grand Order and Diaspora myself.
Which Percival build is best? The nuke is fun but it has a lot of shit conditions like not being able to do anything useful during break and losing everything if you die which is easy when a boss will get charge parried and then immediately smack you in the middle of it after. Skill spam seems the most consistent unless you get really unlucky.
>>574102331The agro one that you can add 10% echos to, you are betting all in that single moment
How's Io's mystic chain style? I'm assuming that with all the focus she gets on stargazer that that path is considered vastly worse for her?
>>574102293that guy wears the cage and gets pegged while danchou gets snusnu'd by Fediel
>>574102690S.Fediel's fate episodes disagrees with you.
Who has the most fun "built around their super mode" style? Id I feel is the obvious answer for being able to actually play dragonform again but siete seems like he can also upkeep his pretty well. What about bea? Is Gallanza's even worth building around?
>>574100194Blessed AFK farmingJust wish the skill was something better though
which is more fun to play as a support. sieg or yoda?
>>574071476orologia simulated about 580000000 timelines, gran sucked dragon milkies more than anything
Damn it's grim if I take mvp from 2 Fediels.
>>574102964>yodahow would that even work, he has one support skill
>>574102176cant DPS when youre dead
>>574103039Build?
>>574071219Funny note is that in all the timelines, the world had reached a lot of ends from all sorts of things even something as bullshit as cavewoman sarasa throwing a boulder at the grancypher killing the crew but none is from lucillus winning.
I never die, because I'm a Full Assist Mode chadit frees me up to spam stickers and message presets
>>574103312Aliza...shrank?
>>574103229WIP because I'm still missing a war elemental and spartan summon which makes it even worse.
>Use SBA>Teammates link it immediately>Boss off by 7%>All consolefag
>>574102636the mastery doesn't tell you but your concentration aoe is vastly bigger at perk 3
>>574103404Which summons can have those?
>>574103618I don't know, I wish someone would tell me too. Roland can have war elemental at least, but I'd rather get a stage which I can afk.
>>574102815Once you get going, Siete can basically full time his avatar mode, yeah.
>>574103618>>5741037214 dragons can drop WE
>>574103383if you're looking at the full chart, it's oldbut if not, that's the better draph Yaia
>>574103790Nice, thanks.
>>574103271>the biggest and greatest threat in all the Simulations was Sicko Mode SieteReally makes you think.
Regeneration or drain, which are you guys liking more? Personally I'm leaning towards regeneration since it helps even when you're in a survival phase of the fight.
Oh wow that's one down.
it's over
>>574104261How many attempts did that take?
Which summon has Berserker eco, Lilith?
>>574102815I started up turbine Gallanza recently and his is definitely something you want to keep up as much as possible since it helps you ignore a lot shit while cranking out more damage. Upkeep is easy between the Deathmatch Finale skill and perfect turbine finishers also triggering it. As an aside, ER's addition of perfect blocking while performing other actions really shines when you're spinning and it's fucking great.
I don't get it.
>>574103943Drain keeps me up when I'm fighting the boss while he's fighting back. Regen just feels kinda bad most of the time. I don't want to be a full health in a minute I want it now so I can tank another hit if I fuck up
>>574104428wish I can trade this for something else
How's Rackam for slime farming? In base game I built him so that one burst kills a small slime. Is it possible to do the same with Chaos+ slimes?
>>574104660All evokers exist on the retarded-evil spectrum. She's on the retarded end of it
>>574104660Other inferior women hates you, most men only wants to get in your pants. Villagers are the most evil thing in grub
>>574103383The basis for the entire chart is we have some canonical measurements for Aliza of 94-50-68, and then I believe extrapolating proportionally based on the game art.Grub is inconsistent, so Aliza has different sizes depending on the unit art, so how big she is means that the proportional sizes change.
So far I've seen >stout heartDragonsBehemoth>WEdragons>spartanBubs
where do glass cannon and improved dodge show up in chaos?
>>574104608Rolan and Lilith both drop WarElemental, Roland just happens to have a higher chance of having support skills like drain or upliftLuci is the one with Berserk
>>574098949I found her screeching almost instantly endearing And the more I play her the more I have come to love it
Is endless ragnarok worth it to play solo? I got the PS4 base version but I don't want to pay for online. PC is an option but I'd have to start over
>>574104802Katze might be one of the most level headed characters in the gacha.
>>574105425yes but prepare to have endless grind since you're going to gear up 4 characters
>>574098949SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>574105597And the ugliest.Funny how that works.
All my friends are in the "I'm just afk farming for summons" phaseAm I weird if I don't really get this? It just seems so meaningless to me. I get wanting to make your characters better but a) for what? if you can afk farm the stages that drops these you can most definitely already S++ infinity andb) where's the fun in not even playing the game to do it? like once this is done what is there to even do for them?I'm having fun just hopping in those quests with randoms, using/pracitcing different characters while getting better at the fights, helping people clear them, and slowly chipping away at getting these summons. Yeah it'll take longer and I have to actually play but its fun and will be more rewarding.idk if that feeling will change after days of doing this with dog shit results, but its fun so far...
>>574105597Except when he's simping or his blatantly evil sister
>>574103271That scene got a good laugh out of me. Logia not even seeing what killed everyone herself and reaction was perfect.
harp user character?
>>574105920I AFK farm the Behenigger stage when I go to work and go to bed for 10 runs, for the summon and to stock up on Centrums.It’s because I fucking hate that fight, and keep bouncing between characters while progressing and need more centrums.
>>574105920the final stage of any grubbler is trying to not play the game while making progress so you can not play the game more efficiently.
Do you use flammenmarsch and traumerei together for the cooldown reduction on zerreissen, or is it better to only run flammemarsh with a third damage skill instead?
>0/5 X status on boss>0/2 link on bosshow are you supposed to do objectives when bosses die in under a minute
>>574104660>But this source of strength was likewise the origin of pain, for its power transformed her life into a waking nightmareMaybe don't dress and act like this then...
>>574104802>>574106424Fraux also has the misfortune of them retconning her backstory and entire characterization by the dyke writer so what was originally established and was written in her Tales story and parts of her uncap, and the giga endykening don’t match up anymore.
>>574105602I know, already did it for the base game
>>574106937So much of grub's writers are fucking awful. No idea how the mobage players even stomach the story.
>>574107043It feels like on the writers team people write the characters they like and if no one has them claimed, they go into limbo or get picked up by other writers.Fraux in particular felt like the game designers and previous writer(s) wanted one thing with a dancho-keyed kit, but the dyke writer got incredibly offended by this.
>>574105938Wouldnt you?
>>574106156The fight only sucks if you are meele and boss keeps agro'ing ranged characters instead, making you run all over the arena .
I collected a few Dark Wee Pincers but the little Harvin guy still doesn't have a quest or any rewards for me. Does it work differently from the regular pincers? I remember that one being incremental progress
Bros what character's kit would be the best for Conflux? Someone that's good at killing waves of trash as well as bosses and doesn't get cucked by stage transitions. NO FEDIEL
>>574107860Turbine Gallanza.
Best link time bea skill?
Wait, summons affect the whole CPU party? So if i get a summon with war elemental i can just remove the sigil version from all their tables?
>>574107837Firstly, that's a human childsecondly, you sure you're looking for the correct guy?
>>574107983>skillwuhjust golden clock dodge cancel her y finisher
>>574107983The Y/Heavy button.
>>574104802It's been a while but I don't remember Maria doing anything wrong like ever.
>>574108051Huh?
>>574108008Yes.
This is genuinely one of the horniest franchises I've ever seen. Just imagine how many loads have been spilled to these girls.
>>574108040Oh, my bad. Yeah, whenever I talk to him the screen darkens and it tells me some of the pincers escaped. Is it another guy I need to talk to?
>>574108473This sure is one of the slops of all time
love these two
>>574108527Should be this child in the other map
>>574108473I did not want the mental image of "how many loads have been spilled"
when are we getting the hottest character of the franchise?
Mod that replaces all voice lines with Bea’s retard screaming even her non-retard scream lines when?
>>574108653Ah... Thank you so much, I was losing my mind.
I want lewd skins in this game so bad. I want to look so slutty that my party members can't help but goon after each session.
Which way?
>>574108767Magisa?
>>574108598Huh, they both look so much better with reversed colors
>>574108473What's with this retard fedielfaggot posting his shitty character. At least have the decency to not post slop.
>>574109260>reversed colors
>>574109193Umi
Has anyone giga maxed out their characters by reaching all upgrades of the mastery traits 50+5 and all the new Masteries trees that come with it? Does that make you overly chungus for infinity?
>>574109539No
>>574107814There’s at least 1 ranged in every lobby I join, often times 2 or 3.
>>574109260Fit their characters after all, Beatrix is a naive exnoble and Zeta a playful tomboy
my first conflux 4 took like 20 minutes, I feel like I'm making major mistakes somewhere
>>574093898>Classic PaladinsI remember, oh I do.
>Have a massive stockpile of 500 amrbrosia from the base game >Takes like 200+ to max a character outbut why
>>574109539No infinity is designed for you to be like that. It's why some people will talk shit about players being only MT30 joining infinity.
>>574109938I CAN NO LONGER STOPIN THIS MOMENTMY LIFE WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLBUUUURN TO THE END
thoughts?
>>574109539Yes and for many players its kinda a requirement to do before going into infinity. I carried way too many useless 1star and the HP masteries alone would helped us all to make those runs less painful. Either way, that will change with time as more and more get used to it or fall into meta builds, mind you, everyone is bitching about Fediel but theres a bunch of sleeper shit going around
>>574110094We looked the statistics from the base game and it appears that the slime stage was the most beloved stage with about 60% of all quests being the slime stage so we gave our players a new slime stage and made sure they have a reason to run it
>>574109910you and your AI just don't have the damage
>>574110252like what
>>574093898This desuThe randos being clowns is just funny to meIf I seriously need to farm something I'll throw up a lobby or do it solo.But I've already got tons of joy just joining random quests and watching the way people invent to die. It gets genuine chuckles from me and is a lot of fun in its own right
>>574110201
>>574110201bad trait so in the bin it goes
>>574110201No room for the trait, sorry bro.
>>574108231it's funny how early popularity is also tanked by being given the shit arcarum summon passives, someday her sufferings will be rewarded.. and her empire annexed by true king gran
>>574110504Normal attack cap up is bad?
>>574110331everything in chaos takes a really long time, guess i should farm.. idk something in proud
>>574110452Yeah, pubs are the roguelike experience
>>574110701the lv 14 dmg cap trait
>>574110716slot in fatebreaker and transcend your defender weaponmake sure you have lvl65 dmg cap too
>>574110716No just power through , the gear jump you get from chaos isn't even funny
>>574108767not even her hottest form
>>574110716I dont anything in the base will give you anything better than conflux 4.Pick the easiest chaos quest you can muster and power through it until you shit spartan, berserk, war elemental, lumen and terra for your whole party.
can berserker and spartan echo drop from either bubs or luci or only one? I swear I saw berserker echo on bubs before but people say it drops from luci now
>>574110692They seem too committed to the theming of her kit plus Water being too stack for her transcendence to fix.Then again Fraux flipped from the dumpster tier Fire evoker and Sunman being core, to Sunman living in a dumpster and Fraux being a perma backline slot and an okay swap in when anyone in your frontline could feasibly die due to powercreep.
>>574110716you should have chaos by now, no?just grind all the celestial stuff with rando
>>574110452It’s only slightly frustrating when you’re trying to progress and people can’t grasp “maybe I shouldn’t stand in the pink Nier farts that instantly kill me” for 15 runs.
being a Siegtank in pubs is a roguelike coinflip experience >get a halfway decent group>nobody dies because i absorb the mistakes into my HP pool >get retards>i get exploded into the floor multiple times and people stop rezzing me
>still hitting 200% dmg cap on dummywhat am I doing wrong?all weapons fully transcended, all master traits with dmg cap up too
>>574111071Bubs spartanLuci zerkId assume both can have it but their chances are different, like spartan drops like candy on bubs while luci is nothing but his sigils
>>574111510nothing? your dmg is already well above the cap
>>574111137Im doing shit solo because i pirated the game under the impression solo stuff is possiblei know it should be lmao
>>574111510400% cap up from summons?
>>574111510>atk lvl 35
>>574111408I find silly how his antidebuff skill just makes away with infini Luci's whole HP gimmick
>>574111607it's possible but you need to grind a lot for your party members to be up to par
>>574111510>unbound lvl15Thats your problem, also using the capup on normal sigil mastery node
>>574111607It is you just need to grind for 3 ai teammates gear as well
is glass cannon kill?I remember it used to be really good (at least on AI companions) in the base game
>>574111884It's only good when the enemy is punching sandbag
>>574111597yeah I need more dmg cap>>574111615only have like 30-40% on skill/atk, it'll help if I get those 100%ers I guess>>574111678>>574111809that's from ascension weapon, does terminus make that much of a difference?
>Gran canonically gets milked by these women every nightImagine being just a normal Folca villager or something watching Gran's harem walk around town. I'd fucking end it.
>>574111884It's still good if you can dodge 100% of attacks
>>574111510You should be running 5 basic stat sigils and 5 (4 if you use Immortal Shell) Defense/Support sigils for their Master bonuses. Get Stout Heart on a summon and run Steel Nerves etc. You'll have almost 200k hp, retarded damage reduction, maximum cap up, and you'll still be capping with Fatebreaker though your CA will hover around 90ish.Swap your shit to Stun Power, you want it maxed out.
>>574111987Are you this retarded on purpose? Is this some bas trolling attempt?
>>574111987uhhhh isn't only 1 of those sluts from grubble
>>574111987>only 1 granblue character in the picFuck off, coomer
>>574111607>impression solo stuff is possibleYou can gear up your AI companions to the point you dont even have press a button.Also, are you able to hire dev bots to help you out?
>>574111987What's with the rampant Fediel spam in these threads. See this shit also in the /v/ threads too.
>>574112107Yeah, theyre like Master level 20 i think, kitted out with some neat stuff
>>574112035nta but I don't see how he can fit 5 basic and 5 def/util into the slots you still need to reserve room for echoes and war elemental
So what's the summon non-sigil stuff to go for? Normal cap or is there something better?
>>574112162metaslaves trying to convince themselves they actually like the character for organic reasons
are these when the enemy is inflicted with burn or when you are?
>>574112374Its high end minmaxing by opening slots with summon skills
>>574112374Yeah I forgot to say you need to get those on summons. Rolan rolls War Elemental and the retard duo get echoes.
>so called fediel fans when they have to read her fate episodes
is narmaya, cag, fraux, and charlotta good choices to get first as a new player? they are all the ones im most interested in
Why are there so few boss monsters in the game?
>>574112459I never even considered that could be when the enemy is afflicted
>>574112459you
>>574112521this is news to me where to farm rolan and the duo
>Sigils can have 2 of the same traitoh my god
>>574112625text is clearly when it's on you but that makes it so bad>>574112636damn, that's so bad
>>574112782Infini za warudo has rolan>>574112840Only if you fuse them I think?
>>574112782From the infinity quests post-game. Rolan from The World, Beelzebub and Lucilius from their own fights. I heard they drop in their chaos++ quests too but I never saw any so Idk if it's a lie.
>>574112840which is bad, I made 3 double supplementary until I realized that's wrong
>>574113491wouldnt double damage cap save space
>>574113539Not when you want you want something on your stun sigils and dmg cap is the one you're likely to have the most to burn on synth.
>>574113631Oh you know what you're right that makes a lot more sense
Is there an AI tier list?
>>574112545Play who you like, they can all clear the game.charlotta is the second strongest character in the game but nobody knows about it because they're all busy whining about fediel
>>574113491>>574113539>>574113631Only think that saves space is removing purple skills, WE, spartan and zerk from the grid with the use of weapon stones and summons.
>>574112545cag has both range and melee options for fighting and her main gimmick is support buffs so even if you her out and don't like it she's still good as an AI teammate
>>574113810Ive seen charlottas, eustaces, Ios, Percivals and Frauxes (abusing her bug most likely tho) matching Fediel's pace.Also saw a monster of a Vane once in bubs, no idea what he was doing but he wrecked the guy, no cheating at all.
>>574112396Normal or skill damage cap. Depends on your character.
>>574113539>he has DMG Cap on his sigils
>>574113810>>574114074got it ty both very much
>>574112536>so called fediel fans when they realize she is only into a femboy
>>574112536But you don't have to? Her fates are literally part of the main story meaning she joins you with full sigils meaning you never have to do her fates if you don't want to.
>>574116173>Her fates are literally part of the main story
you really never get tired of this shartay
>>574116327The whole backdrop lore you get as you progress ER is actually Fediel's fates.
is it even possible for sieg ai to fail perfect strikes
>>574113810No, we're just used to Charlotta being busted shit.
>>574116536>The whole backdrop lore you get as you progress ER is actually Fediel's fates.
so I just reached chaos and there is so much shit to do in order to make this faster and I dont know if spamming 30 minute confluxes is the answer
>140k+ heal that overheals as shield but doesn't work on celestial ventus users>80k shield that works on celestial ventus users but doesn't give any healingwhich way, coggers
>>574091046You'll randomly get them instead of the regular tickets (rare)
>>574116767I'd follow the side (main) quest and unlock as many chaos as you could, at some point you'll have to continue conflux again, then go back to chaos again
>>574116916If they would have wanted healing they wouldn't have picked ventus
>>574116916Pub healsLobby shields
>>574116767only do conflux when you need a material that only drops from it.grinding quests at early chaos will make you powerful much faster.
I'm assuming Glass cannon is really bad on an AI that has Substitute?
>>574117404why assume when you can try
>>574117474well I did try but nothing bad really happened but that doesnt sound right
>>574116916As a shield Magi user, shield is much appreciated in pubs and saves my ass when I'm retarded.
>>574116916Shield, obviously.
>>574114269what's the fraux glitch
>>574117565does veil block the dizzy from glass cannon?
>>574117404Tested it out by using it myself, seems like its fine they won't get dizzy unless they themselves get hit. Not too surprising since no other status effects usually transfer from substitution and the wording on it is that the person takes DMG in place of an ally, not that they get hit
>>574117832No
I see fedielI leave instantlysimple as
>>574118275Don't, they clear just as fast if you leave or not. The hidden tech is>wait 30s at the end for the chests to open without manually looting>wait the full duration to return to town instead of selecting it immediatelythey want to shorten my quest length with cheese meta trash, they will pay that time back in post
>>574118545Imagine being this much of a bitch because someone does more damage
>need to go into the inventory to lock sigilsfucks sake
>>574116916heal because it still works on yourself if you're running ventusbetter than running potion master with how little greens restore now
Dumb question but is there a particular difference between the rolan drops in world Chaos++ and world infinity? Does chaos++ rolan just usually roll lower for the non-sigil stat?
>>5741189050Rolan on Chaos++ just has a lower chance to drop
lobby doko?
>>574118996Oh yeah that makes sense. I remember being disappointed when I didn't get a summon drop when I did that quest the first time. Really feels like that any of the post-ER story Chaos++ quests have near 100% drop rate for the double summon stones
>>574118905a jap on twitter posted a 100% normal Luci he AFK farmed overnight in Chaos++so its assumed Rolan with 100% drops from the Chaos++ World too
Thank GOD I got stout heart on a summon nowI forgot how good it feels to not be interrupted midair
I just realized why is there like a golden airship stamp on my delegated borrow character?
>>574116916shield of course, everyone is using ventus
>>574119242means someone used it
>>574119242Used goods
>>574116916shield because it lets the squishies eat a hit even if they aren't ventus users
>>574116916Shields. I'm doing the same on Io.
whats the best dev borrow for general progression?
>>574119359>>574119387Then the guys with rainbow airship stamps...
>>574118656doing more damage is fine, encouraged evenDeliberately trying to water down everyone else's experience because of main character syndrome is not.
I see fedielI fall to my knees and start masturbating and proposingsimple as
>>574120116>Deliberately trying to water down everyone else's experienceNigger what?
>>574120116what's the difference? am i ruining your experience when im doing more dps than the average fediel with a different character?
>>574120290he's deliberately trying to water down everyone else's experience because of his main character syndrome and victim complexeveryone playing fediel is a triple hitlerjewniggersatan out to get him and ruin his life, after all, and are not just playing the sexy dragon lady in a video game and having fun with her
Why did they make a worse version of faa a regular enemy? To anybody that didn't actually farm the proud fight this has to be a nightmare to learn
>>574116767Save scum sigil synthesis with the new skills. Run all ai characters that give buffs if you don’t want to build them out (Sandy, Cag, Percival).
>>574120290>>574120321I unironically have been in quests where the 3 other people don't even have an SBA when a fediel has already killed the boss and used hersHell I have had quests where I haven't even been able to fill my fucking gauge before she killed the boss.She literally does not let 3 other people play the game
>>574120545
>>574120545I have also been in chaos+ or early chaos++ quests with a M50 character while I was still doing progression
miach is so lucky...
>>574120480I'm running danchou and yodarhar because Io needs all the help she can get honestly
New thread:>>574120745>>574120745>>574120745
Which mastery trait?
>>574120650Nah he's got a point, I had uplift at 30 and fedi still has ougi ready before I get halfway there. having pretty much arenawide rage helps with it too I bet. the guy is still retarded
>>574118275Actually, instead of leaving instantly, you should just AFK to make sure your character contributes nothing and isn't taken over by the CPU. If you want to be even more evil, just die and consume the critical gauge.
>>574119518aren't io's shields tiny?
>>574120650No, her SBA generation is silly. She outpaces Cag and Ferry
>>574120650i run max uplift on cag and do the block cancel XY technique yet she still outpaces me, it's retarded
>>574120832I beat the whole game with intense loops but I've seen people post about out for revenge, apparently it's good too but you need to learn how to parry
>>574106340i use both buffs together, 2 dash skills on the other buttons
