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Big Edition

Previous huge thread: >>574085224

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

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undertale or deltarune?
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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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I'll be honest I fucking hate the direction Toby went with WR Noelle and it feels like he's almost overcorrecting to make up for the misinterpretations of the ThornRing scene
"Oh actually this character was actually always unhinged and aware of her place in the metanarrative actually oops I'm sorry this wasn't hinted or elaborated at all until now"
It just kinda takes away the main horror aspect of WR, all the psychological manipulation and outright torture to force Noelle into becoming stronger soley from the players will, because we 'can'.
It's weird nobody mentioned how offputting it is Toby asspulled an excuse of 'ermm actually Noelle always wanted to be a fucking psychopath', the tonal difference between WR and normal path Noelle is so jarring it doesn't feel well written at all.
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Toby gave up on the weird route because he couldn't bother making Noelle a party member
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Berdly vs Kris
Catti vs Susie
Jockington vs Ralsei

fuuuuaaaaaark.....
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>>574098810
:3
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>>574098843
Good she is shit
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>>574098831
>He fell for Noelle's facade
>He thought Weird Route was the player's will
Skill issue, life bricked
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Why is Toby so nice?
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>>574098902
Susie is shit and I never wanted her
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Loli gaster
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>>574098906
>thing that got completely asspulled after three chapters
>facade
cmon man
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Catbox is broken today so I will just post the twitter source
https://x.com/i/status/2069195258471076024
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>>574098924
I love you, Toby.
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forgib even though she's trying to cause the Roaring?
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>>574098942
Still looks like an old hag
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>>574098932
Dont care about her too. Here is the perfect party:

Kris
Lancer
Berdley
Flowery

Broing it up
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Lapping up Aqua's warm nectar!
Rubbing Aqua's essential oils into your face!
Holding Aqua flat against your body and taking long, deep breaths of her floral aroma!
Drinking fresh tea from Aqua's pores!
Aqua!
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>>574098831
Toby shouldn't have removed the pills from her room in cyberworld for the people like you.
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So what the fuck is up with the Gaster Cartel cutting up Onion-san just to give out BALL codes like do they want to invite you to their Tetris Attack speedrun sessions or what
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>>574098924
>proceeds to make game with every mechanic you can think of that insists that it's the best game ever and that you shouldn't be missing out also buy my ralsei plushes lololol
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>>574098984
kys pedonigger
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>>574098831
weird misread of how we rape her in to realizing she lives in a simulation, she has always been depressed because her sister is gone and possibly dead, her dad is dying, and her mom is emotionally unavailable. in chapter 2 she says she wishes she could jump off the ferris wheel. we mind break her. and then go even further which turns her delusional and makes her realize that life isn't just passing her by, life is being played for her like a video james. you are illiterate if you think WR noelle is just a psychopath who wants to ruin everything, she wants to change, and she has expressed this multiple times before chapter 5. thinga right now suck and she wants to either kill herself or break through reality.
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>>574098831
she wasn't always a psycho. We mindbreak her so hard she goes "oh actually my life was so shit before lol only now I can see it"
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>>574098989
yes, removed content
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>>574098757
AU where all monsters big and Kris is smallest guy around
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>>574098972
I will help her cause the roaring.
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>>574098984
live forever
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>>574098757
>Asgore 5 feet taller than Toriel
His cock is probably the size of her entire leg so how Asriel happened is a mystery to surpass Gaster
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>>574099062
She always thought her life was shit, we just gave her the ultimate out
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>>574098924
You'd think this would have filtered out the CoL types
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>>574098975
Lolibaba Gaster........ this is peak!
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>>574098991
The only idea ive seen on all the BALL stuff so far is ch5 is linked back to snowdin with reverse UT theory, and snowdin area had the weird ball game
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>>574098831
it makes her relationship with Susie extremely jarring honestly, knowing stuff like this was ""always"" (apparently post ch5) lingering inside her, I just feel bad for Susie
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>>574099114
Rudy took it to the base btw
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>>574099050
No mewmew image?
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>>574098924
He lied. He does believe the game is made for every person, that's why he let it into the mainstream. To Toby Fox, you're just a bigot if you don't like the game.
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>>574098954
>asspulled
She immediately starts contemplating killing Kris on the weird route before you even force her to attack Berdly, Noelle was always like that
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>>574099208
She saw this girl with endless freedom and was jealous
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>>574099035
>>574099292
Why are you so nasty?
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>>574099208
Noelle "Life is a farce and nothing changes but maybe Susie will be a fresh enough distraction to stop me from slitting my wrists in the bathtub with Kris's knife" Holiday is madly in love with Susie "every day should be the exact same as today and I have 0 future prospects and if I just wish hard enough I can ignore reality" Gaster, and it's wholesome!
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Post anchor plz.
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Reminder that Noelle cast snowgrave because we annoyed her so hard asking her to cast a spell she doesn't know several times.
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>>574099367
because the writers made ragebait and sold it as a cute rpg for kids
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>>574099367
He was touched as a child inappropriately
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is it kris hollyday or noelle dreamer
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>>574099417
Could have casted it on empty space
Skill issue
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>>574099450
Oh, so you got cucked
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Bla bla anchor for own content bla bla
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>>574098831
>aware of her place in the metanarrative actually
this is a really funny reach her feelings are extremely normal and not related to her thinking she's a video game character or something.
> the tonal difference between WR and normal path Noelle is so jarring it doesn't feel well written at all.
you can see in the normal chapter 5 a direct parallel between WR Noelle "doing something crazy" with either her or susie saying the same line before bringing her into the lake. Her liking Susie and dating her is her normal and safe "doing something crazy" as opposed to the fucked up WR path. It makes complete sense and adds to their romance and why she likes her.
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>>574099507
I dunno about you but most people don't like ntr shit. Like, at all
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>>574098924
Woah, you mean the game where the final boss battle literally has you Hope and Dream the villain into redemption was made by a really sweet guy??
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>>574099515
This was really cute whoever drew this, thank you.
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>>574099469
Kris Gaster and Noelle Burch (as in anthony (as in Noelle is a cuck))
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>>574099417
She was coping and trying to stall the inevitable. Literal mind control + corruption meant she was going to cast it no matter what.
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The foreshadowing of Noelle being a schizo was always there. It's not out of nowhere
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>>574099515
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>>574099556
Thr final boss is Flowey
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heh...oh yeah...
my full name....?
lancer.
lancer gaster.
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>>574099616
Gold
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>>574099282
i hate mewtrannies too
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>>574099562
kancho
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So I recently finished chapter 4 and for now I think it's probably best chapter
>no scrimblos like tenna or spamton
>feels like actual epic adventure
>very plot and character development heavy
>gerson
>music is awesome
>gerson music is awesome
>sometimes kinda creepy
>titan fight
It actually made me cry when soul started shining and fun gang started to protect each other, and I didn't cried during undertale ending.
Also I liked how cunty knight was this chapter
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>>574099602
proofs?
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>>574099725
>'epic adventure'
>knight gets away doesn't even let you try to fight it
>toriel wasn't even there
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>>574099450
Bulkin...
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Isn't it too early for seethy mcsamefag to be here
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>>574099616
Fuarkin SAVED
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kris
>cutting (carries a knife everywhere, tears the soul out violently)
>binging and purging (overeats when unsouled, is in the bathroom with the sink running for a long time)
>starving (see above)
>hitting head/body
susie
>punching things until her fists bleed
>overeating out of convinience till she throws up/eats rotten food
>scratches hersef up out of frustration, is confused at kris cutting since that's too deliberate/conscious
noelle
>overdosing on her own pills and getting them confiscated/private nurse sent to her home instead of going to the hospital and making a scene
>taking her dad's pills afterwards
>cut herself once and hated it
>eats small portions of food
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This may be a hot take but the "sans is a DR>UT transplant" theory actually somewhat cheapens soriel for me. I find it much more interesting that sans did all that for someone he only knew as a voice; him latching onto toriel because it was ~the love from another universe~ somehow feels more shallow. I’m not opposed to sans and papyrus coming from elsewhere, but it feels like forcing a multiverse where one really isn’t needed at the expense of the emotional core. marvel writing-esque, imo.
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>>574099706
mew urself
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>>574099725
You forgot the best part.
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>>574099616
>pumpkin on the floor
gold
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I dont like little girls
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>>574099827
this
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>>574098757
Aaaaah, flower cunny! Sex with Aqua! Being sure to cum before five minutes so that Aqua doesn't get bored! Not having the energy to dodge Aqua's knives when she wants to play 30 seconds after I came Inside of her!
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>>574099556
Yeah ... but he is like, really, really nice
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>>574099515
Aqua and Seth would be the worst two little shits to babysit
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>>574099725
the wind scene was kino.... when one would fall and the others picked them up... then we the soul saved them... FUCK..... I FUCKING LOVE DELTARUNE
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>>574099820
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>>574099903
I don't think he is
He hates all the classics and insists he knows better
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>>574099789
>>toriel wasn't even there
Why do you want your mommy getting in the way of your epic adventure
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DAMN
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>>574099616
You people are so weird and hateful. How do you even think of something like this, designed to bring pain to others
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>>574099616
Lmao Yellow
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>>574099951
To have a lady to save
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>>574099927
cute, i remember the sketch! seth being close to as much of a shit as aqua is underrated, she's obsessed with being a tactician afterall. pink is so cute here too
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>>574099965
its in the scary f*cked up undertale editgenre
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>>574099820
>>574099940
why does this kris look like that
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>>574099927
Cute, but a bomb strapped with knives would be a great attack
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>>574099616
ow ow ow ouchie this image is hurting me
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>>574099927
I love your stuff
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Why is every screenrecording of a discord call that has someone playing deltarune/undertale filled with the most insufferable teenagers ever?
The worst part about it is that these people were clearly raised on twitch and watching twitch highlights on youtube because their way of socializing is trying to say something reaction-provoking and then proceeding to scream over everyone by exaggerating their laughter in an attempt to "hit a clip" so that it can be posted on their account for likes. It's so fake and unnatural. And every video is exactly like this.
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>>574099554
Of course, but the only people that got NTRd were the retards that thought this was going to be like all the other weeb fanservice JRPGS that they are used to play. This cucking is entirely of your own making, take it as an opportunity for character development.
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>>574099965
You aren't slick, Kupo
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Nooooo my fuzzy critter is innocent she was just following orders.
Why do anti weird route fags want that?
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>>574099616
Baaaaased!
>>574099862
A likely story
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>>574100115
*drawn out wet fart*
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>>574100037
Kinda Oedipal, bro
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Ralsei!
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>>574099725
I genuinely believe that, despite the mountains of theories and debates the UT/DR community have, the weird distinctions between the knight's behaviour between chapters should really be considered more, like
>chapter 3: weirdly feral, autistic screeching, first time it looks at you its 'crying', does absolutely catastrophic amounts of damage
>chapter 4: cocky as shit, weirdly cunty at times and outright cruel at others (its behaviour towards Ralsei before the 2nd fountain, etc), and seemed like it was actually intelligent throughout
>chapter 5: instantly gets fucking smushed into a wall and shows signs of genuine damage from it despite the show of strength in 3/4, and somehow even fucking struggles to win a clash against a literal flower with fake stats, which doesnt add up to what we saw with Susie in the exact same scenario
I don't know whether this means the Knight is simply an entity of its own or if there are multiple people taking the mantle of the 'Knight; but it's so fucking weird it gets glossed over
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AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH I WANT TO FUCK AND MARRY KRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>574100115
It's a video game for kids, man
There are things you shouldn't put in a game for kids
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>>574099949
He loves all the classics while wanting to make his own thing. That's what artists do, I'm sorry if you were just looking for more recycled fanservice.
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>>574100039
I know it’s vaguely based on those, but it doesn’t communicate any kind of loving joy, any kind of fondness for the thing parodied. It’s literally just horrible transphobic torture of one of the main characters because the creator thinks trans people should be tortured in real life. It’s really messed up
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>>574100225
The classics don't exist anymore, Deltarune is the only thing getting made now anon
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>>574100180
Multiple Knight theory is the coolest one and it's JRPG as fuck, I hope it happens
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>>574100345
It has already happened
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>>574100225
>his own thing
>eight bajillion references to other better things
Saying he doesn't have an original bone in his body is an understatement.
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report and ignore trolls ought to be in the op next to the spoiler warning because holy shit this thread sucks at that
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>>574100215
So killing and abuse and teenage suicide is all cool, but watching a friend flirt and hug another girl is where you draw the line? You cucks really are something else.
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>>574100394
There's nothing wrong with killing enemies in a video game
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>>574100180
Chapter 3 Knight has the same cocky and cunty behavior in its battle animations, the Knight contains multitudes
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>>574099616
Susie should rape Ralsei, she should rape that tranny princess shit out of him
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>>574100314
>>574100373
What made you so miserable guys?
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>>574100371
>>574100345
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What will we learn in class today?
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>>574100215
Deltarune is rated T for Teen
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>>574100517
Seth is Eram theory
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>>574100517
How to drink bleach
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>>574100373
>Why does this game that's a commentary on gaming have references to other games?!
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>cute
>hot
>interesting premise for a character
>beloved UT veteran
>best Chapter 5 fight
>best Chapter 5 fight music
>(SHARTery need not apply on both of the above)
>works for both comedy and emotional scenes
>unlocks some of the best equipment in the game
>drops sick lore on starving theoryfags
>only UT character to get fleshed out instead of turned into a dumb townie
>only character who gives Kris any
>chuddies still pretend to hate her because of a vague social metaphor
>(they'll still play the game about the lesbian lizard, effete goat and bpd they/them)
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>>574100098
if they're kids, who cares
this is old man yells at cloud tier
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I love the changed dynamic between the player and Kris in the weird route.
Normally Kris is a little shit. They're doing scary smiles and brandishing their knife and going out and making dark fountains left and right and working with your enemies.
They're thinking they're on demon time. Oh, you want to save the world and seal the fountains? Well I'M the one in charge and I'm in a secret conspiracy and I'm going to work against you and you can't stop me. I'm still in control.

But then you show them what's up in the Weird Route. You're the one in control. You're doing fucked up shit they can't even comprehend and you're doing it to their close childhood friend as they're forced to watch. They're trying to stop it but can't. Every dialogue option, every chance they can, but it doesn't work. By chapter 5 they've even completely given up on their gay little night outings and are just desperately trying to stay in bed.
And their childhood friend is in love with (You) and likes the version of Kris puppeted by (You) more than she ever has and says to their face how much better they are now.
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>>574100238
she is literally giving her gender affirming surgery
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>>574100038
Seth is absolutely the kind of kid that fucks with the chemicals under the sink kek

>>574100079
Appreciate it dude, thank you.

>>574100047
I have the feeling many militaries over the world are privy to that info Pink's about to find out too
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>>574100505
what the hell is on sans's head
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>>574100570
you seem very insecure about your love for this character, why is that
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>>574100454
Ok cuck, hope you can feel better soon!
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>>574100098
>every screenrecording of a discord call that has someone playing deltarune/undertale
Why are you watching such things?

>the most insufferable teenagers ever?
So... teenagers?

>these people were clearly raised on twitch and watching twitch highlights on youtube
You mean they're teenagers in 2026? "No one goes to the sock hop anymore!"
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>>574100485
ever since I played abandoned unreleased shit game Ice Palace for the VIC-20 I realized it's just Deltarune Chapter 6, and my view of this world had grown darker, yet darker
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>>574100643
Why do you want everything to be subverted so bad. Why
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>>574100180
>fucking struggles to win a clash against a literal flower with fake stats
did it though? it slashed his attack damage (crazy thing to do btw) and one shot him.
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>>574100621
i'm just laughing at the irrationality of Maddie haters. It is simply logical to be a MaddieCHAD.
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>>574100583
>You're the one in control.
go press 'stop' in chapter 5's WR lake scene and tell me what happens
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post (weird) noelles
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This greentext occupies a large space in my mind. It cannot be helped.
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>>574100485
>you are miserable for saying the truth
What a life you lead.
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>>574100587
It’s not funny, some of us have had close friends physically assaulted in real life because of this kind of bigotry. When you put these thoughts out there in public they spread and cause harm
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>>574099725
>no scrimblos
Chapter 4 fags continue being in denial that it isn't 80% quirk chungus bullshit, I see.
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>>574100098
stop looking at videos of kids, dess
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>>574100583
What about the shelter codes
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For a game that was supposedly written from beginning to end before development started it's suspiciously awkward how Deltarune characters don't keep a consistent behavior from chapter to chapter
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>>574100570
This might be bait but I still love her with all my love and she's still the winner of Chapter 5, so.
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>>574100701
the clash lasted around the same time as Susie's, if you play them side by side
Knight felt much weaker in chapter 5 and I feel like showing that was intentional
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>>574100564
>commentary
lmao
I'm sure all those MOTHERfucking references are commenting on the nature of video games or something.
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goodness me it's not even 8am yet and this thread is quite active.
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>>574099965
>>574100238
>>574100751
Why are you pretending to be woke?
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>>574100570
I don't like that your forced to interact with the anime character to beat the game
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>>574100583
Noelle is unironically the one in control now, Soulkeks lost
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>>574100892
Yeah, Flowery is very annoying.
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>>574100889
it's an artificial intelligence chatbot
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>>574100865
yeah, and its like 70% bait
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>>574100720
if you press stop it's Kris saying it though. That's the Kris BITCH option. A real player would always choose to proceed
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>>574100570
Pinkfags be like
>please please please PLEASEEEEEE talk about my gender dysphoria Please I'm begging you
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>>574100892
anime website
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>>574100889
I’m not pretending to be anything it’s just ghastly what these people from /v/ will create
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Why do you people want Noelle to be the raped victim in the weird route? That would remove all her responsability of killing Berdly. Can't put all the blame on the party leader.
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>>574100931
Flowery looks sort of like a human at least, someone you could take seriously
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>>574100845
>Knight felt much weaker in chapter 5 and I feel like showing that was intentional
I don't think they were shown as much weaker. I think they were shown to not be perfect but I didn't get the sense they were weak.
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>>574100892
>>574100931
All the Flowers are huge anime stereotypes actually, even Blue.

>>574100889
(You) addiction and general thread shittery.
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>>574100994
You are not real.
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>>574100941
what a shame. perhaps i shall return after my morning duties
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>>574101063
Only now did the game FORCE you to flirt
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcgPHczY0kU
I don't know how I feel about my favourite remix of Black Knife being a fucking DBD concept of all things
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>>574100724
You meant post sexy noelles because crazy Noelle makes me hard
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I wish I could go to a Dark World and meet the Ibuprofen Darkner and give it head as thanks for everything it has done for me over the years
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>>574099616
Mfs really say they love these characters they think about every day and mean a lot to them, then do shit like this if a character makes a decision they don't agree with
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>>574101005
He's literally a walking talking shitpost to the point they put his face on random shit because they know it's funny. At least for me, his turn to earnest anime antihero doesn't work nearly as much as Toby would have wished.
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>>574101109
crazy noelle's actual sprites aren't appealing to me because it uses the chapter 1 hair so my mind keeps thinking it's her all hunched up instead of that being her hair. All the fanart is fucking hot though
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>>574100747
>I'm just saying the truth, and the truth is that everything is shit! And I have to keep repeating it!
Aha
>>574100689
I actually don't, a story being too predictable can get a bit boring, but I'm happy to enjoy something traditional as long as it's good. I like LotR, and Star Wars and a lot of standard storytelling as long as it's good/ entertaining. The question is why can't you enjoy something that tries to do something different. It was established from the very start that this wasn't going to be a completely conventional story, I'm sorry but how stupid can you get if you thought you could just choose any girl you wanted with Kris? Seriously, how retarded do you have to be?
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>>574098831
You have a point for ch 2 WR where you can argue that the message was how dangerous it is to force someone to achieve power no matter the cost
But ch 4 definitely showed signs that noelle is not doing fine mentally and realizing that with this new power she could escape
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>>574098831
ChatGPT said:
Here's a disagreement that fits the style of a /vg/ discussion without being overly hostile:

I don't think that's what Toby is doing at all. WR Noelle isn't "actually always a psychopath," it's more like the route strips away the assumptions everyone (including Noelle herself) has about her. The weird dialogue and confidence only show up after being subjected to repeated manipulation and impossible events. That's not a retcon, it's the result of the route pushing her into a completely different mental state.

The ThornRing scene is still horrifying because the player is coercing someone who doesn't understand what's happening. If anything, the later stuff makes it worse—it suggests she starts rationalizing the abuse instead of simply remaining a terrified victim. That's a pretty believable psychological response, not an "asspull."

Also, Deltarune has been hinting at Noelle being capable of obsession and fixation since Chapter 2. The Weird Route just exaggerates those traits under extreme circumstances. Saying "she always wanted to be a psychopath" feels like a much stronger interpretation than what the game is actually presenting.
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>>574101107
friend loaf
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>>574101185
The Flowery fight at least feels like a fight ghe one eith pink dies not and the whole sequence makes me cringe it should Ave been optional the whole character
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>>574101138
Ibuprofen definitely turns into a consumable in the dark world. Probably something that cures status effects.
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>>574101074
It’s probably because I have more grounding in the real world than you that we have this profound difference in outlook
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>>574101261
You don't know me.
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>>574100570
didn't read all that but you posted the best character in chapter 5 so I agree
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Krusie relies way more on vibes than actual text. Kris is practically impossible to read because of the player/mystery surrounding them, and Susie's emotional arc is overwhelmingly centered on Noelle. Just because Kris and Susie are the main duo doesn't automatically make them romantic. Most of their development works perfectly well as two lonely kids becoming genuine friends. Compared to how explicit Noelle's feelings are, Krusie feels mostly fan projection.
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>>574101214
>repeating it
I don't know or care what poopdick schizo you confused me with. Sorry not sorry I hurt your fee fees over a YN slop.
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>>574099562
Evil human
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>>574101350
I will never know physical intimacy with a woman.
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chapter 2 should have been held back for chapter 3. chapter 4 should have been held back to go with chapter 5. chapter 6 WILL be held back to release with chapter 7 because of the reaction to 5.
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I was so fat and nasty.
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>>574101214
Because true conventional jrpg adventures are not made anymore
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>>574100847
>me when I can't read
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>>574101464
I would eat everything
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>there is a big flashback in Chapter 6/7 where the Holiday/Dreemurr kids are all playing pretend with random shit they found
>the dark worlds are Dess challenging Kris to a serious version of their childhood games
Would this be corny or kino?
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>>574101470
umm...your soulless 'HD' 2D pigfeed?
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post seth bobby
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>>574098757
Hooman!
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Why is CoL back did he actually play chappy 5 just to self-harm or something
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>>574101458
I would be surprised if we got 6 and 7 at the same time
6 is going to be filled to the brim with stuff to talk about and theories either proven or disproven
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A fucking firefly flew into fave's fucking room now fave doesn't want to sleep in case it crawls into fave's ear
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>>574101470
the ever so humble legend of heroes series
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>>574101542
reposting from an earlier thread
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>>574101569
fave, they sell bug spray. you should buy some
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tenna fans are genuinely incapable of letting a character be an asshole. the second a villain has five minutes of charisma you people start inventing an entirely different personality because the actual one isn't cute enough. suddenly every narcissistic thing he does is "just a defense mechanism" and every manipulative stunt is "he just wants to be loved." did we play the same game or are you all reading the version that exists exclusively on twitter and ao3? the funniest part is watching people accuse everyone else of "media illiteracy" while they're busy replacing half the character with headcanons and pretending it was in the script the whole time. if your interpretation only works after ignoring everything inconvenient, maybe it's not the game that's wrong.

Woah this one is good.
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>>574101485
I was like 345 pounds.
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>>574101526
It's more like turning childhood games and what should be fun adventures into work since it's all in service of The Promise
You know taking out the fantasy from fantasy because they're really just checking boxes to get to the end
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>>574101569
Why don’t Europeans put screens in their windows? This is asinine
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>>574101653
Of all the characters you could have used to make this point it's the one we know for a fact is doing what he does because he's desperate and alone.
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>>574101470
yes they are bulkin, you just aren't looking for them properly because all you do is look under the jrpg user tags on steam and assume anything with a good rating must and will appeal to you personally
it's your fault you spent money on a product you assumed would be something else, because you refused to read the reviews or see what else the developer had previously created. you should have paid more attention to what you were actually buying. it's like if someone tried to refund a mystery box because they didn't get what they expected out of it
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>>574101628
>Action game
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>>574101464
rip jackbox
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>>574101214
Dude I don't care about dating either iof them, I just don't find these two's romance entertaining in the game I paid real money to entertain me.
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ain't no way the vtuber stalker is back to "discuss" deltarune
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>>574101771
nope
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>>574101716
>Why don't Europeans [headcanon]
It's the early afternoon in Europe.
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>>574101568
People assumed the same thing about chapter 5.
And now chapter 5 is borderline a filler chapter if you dont do weird route
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>>574101729
Ok what about this one:

spamton fans are never beating the "everything is about my blorbo" allegations. every single new piece of deltarune lore drops and within five minutes someone's posting a six page theory about how it was secretly foreshadowing spamton all along. new character? actually connected to spamton. weird lore? spamton knew about it. random object in the background? spamton reference. at this point if toby posted today's weather half the fandom would be explaining how the cloud patterns confirm spamton orchestrated chapter 7. it's like some of you physically cannot let another character exist without trying to make them part of the spamton cinematic universe. not every mystery revolves around the same salesman, move on already
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>>574101773
Maybe we'll play this weekend, maybe he was just busy.
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>>574100643
Stop posting this image........
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>>574101403
The game has been out for like three weeks by now and you are still bitching, I'm sorry you got cucked, but you are only hurting yourself anon.
>>574101470
Yes they are you are just too lazy to search for new games.
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>>574101881
much better.
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aint it nice
the life forever for flowers
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I just play Subway surfers whenever there's suselleslop happening on screen
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>>574101653
Tenna is not a villain at all. He's basically MC's family
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Why is Snowy so much more well-adjusted than Noelle despite also having a dead family member? Is she stupid?
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>>574101969
No, Queen. I'm a real gamer.
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>>574100643
>>574101904
>Watch this Suse, you can actually pinpoint the second her heart rips in half!
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>>574101904
It's rough, I know ... I actually like Catti, hope she gets a new girlfriend.
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>>574101526
heh... chapter WHAT now?
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>>574101934
Ok check this one out:

daily reminder that lancer is still the undisputed prince of carrying every scene he's in. doesn't matter how much the lore expands or how many eldritch mysteries get dumped on the player, the moment the bike-riding cardboard idiot shows up the entire game immediately becomes better. all your favorite characters are out here having existential crises while lancer's biggest concern is whether he can fit more wheels on his bike. true enlightenment. if chapter 7 ends without at least one completely unnecessary lancer bit then toby has abandoned peak fiction. praise be to the round boy. may his bucket continue to overflow with worms forever. amen.
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>>574102060
SIIIIIIIIIIIIIX SEVENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>574101882
maybe if we all pray together and our hearts become one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbO3p7_Mf30
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>>574102020
>she ends up with Berdly
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>>574101990
Who the fuck is Snowy? Is that an NPC? That's right. A nobody. A Snowy doing Snowy things. Noelle is different. Noelle will break free.
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>>574102065
this true
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In Chapter 6 Susie and Noelle will realize that their respective mental problems are causing them to lose sight of what's important and resolve to be better people and better friends to both each other and all the other little Faves in Hometown suchs as Berdly and Catti
Meanwhile Kris will be Promisemaxxing
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>>574102091
Oh god ...
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I think Fox made a mistake by making the game appeal to foids too much. UT was a male focused game (because only men play video games), but literally the entirety of Deltarune is about how strong foids are and how pathetic and cucked all men are
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>>574101990
The personality of family members plays a huge role into how traumatic a loss is. Snowy's father is jovial and wise. Carol is the opposite of that. Snowy's mother also likely died of natural causes which is easier to move on from than whatever the fuck THE INCIDENT was.
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I hope your fave has new dialogue where they say they hate people who do/have a really specific thing/trait, and that this trait they mention hating is one that applies to a great facet of your personal life.
You know who you are. And you know it'll happen.
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i still don't understand why toby tries to include deep lore in deltarune when he acknowledges literally nobody who plays his games are smart
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Hi, guys
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>>574102212
:(
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>>574101980
I am clearly slopgenning posts but the Tenna ai post is the one that got genuine Tennafags feel targeted. What does this say for Tennafags?
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>>574101628
CoL would probably hate Trails
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>>574102227
Baiting is like a way of life for you guys, uh?
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>>574102356
and i been biiiiting it
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>>574098831
Are you the same /v/tard that was saying Undertale will get a new version because Deltarune doesn't match up with it anymore, last night? I get the same retard vibe from this post. If not, you may have a soulmate
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>>574102241
friend is absolutely a minor character now
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>>574102356
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I wonder if Toby actually truly had hope in the "HE EVOLVED LOL" joke with the caterpillar. Like if he truly honestly believed in his heart that shit would be one of the zingers of the chapter that would be referenced by everyone and make the home page of Reddit.
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>>574102212
Fave would never hate me for smelling my own boogers
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Ay ay. (Whiteboard is still raped.)
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>>574102212
it's ok i hate myself too
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>>574102462
https://gofile.io/d/KRQ8SU
*cough cough*
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Deltarune threads before:
>Wholesome discussion about the game
Deltarune threads now:
>Baits
>Offtopic shit
>No discussion

Sad to see, just shut this general down at this point
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>>574102539
You must be new here
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>>574102309
>sci-fi with interconnected web of plots
He'd probably go into shock at the first few minutes
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>>574102539
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>>574102606
holy SHIT
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I think radiationfags are the only good ones but that's just because there's only one of them and it's me and I'm far too small and mildly quiet to cause any troubles
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>>574102442
I laughed when he developed
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>>574102394
Nice
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>>574102638
your fave deserves to be dicked down good and hard like the slutfox he is
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https://x.com/UnderTale/status/1940769175984902278
>new patch again
>dialogue added
bros?
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>>574102653
Sir this is a Deltarune thread. No OCs allowed.
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>>574102638
too small, huh? *picks you up between my pointer finger and thumb* you can't even fight back
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>>574102442
I laughed at this joke
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*shuffles into thread*
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>>574102241
What makes Gerson more relevant than Spamton? They're both only in one chapter. I'd say Spamton's involvement in the weird route and having 2 different boss fights puts him higher or on the same tier.
I'd also definitely put Egg Tree Weirdo and Normal NPC higher than Bratty. At least Egg Tree Weirdo 100% is since he has five secret scenes.
I'd put Friend in minor. They're important but only implied as of yet.
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>>574102781
>How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!
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>>574102729
Despite everything I still love fat little chudKris
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>>574102729
HOOOLY SHIIIIT
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>>574102781
this is what the soul looks like in deltarune if you played undertale when it first came out
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>>574102735
Your not my mom
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>>574102729
This art is hot so I checked the artist's gallery but there's too much tr*nny circus
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>>574102442
fuck you i like it
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>>574102729
>Changed Ralsei's pronouns to she/her
Really Toby?
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>>574100180
Toby hasn't decided.
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>>574101892
this

https://litter.catbox.moe/bbcfsxm9yh024xq7.jpg
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This greentext occupies a large space in my mind. It cannot be helped.
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>>574102726
You guys understand me!
>>574102762
Make love, not war!!
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>>574102931
Ok, that got a laugh out of me
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>>574102931
what is your life
how did you end up in this place
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>>574100776
Canon
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>>574102442
Wait you don't get an item for it and he doesn't turn into a butterfly?
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>>574102931
Vaush?
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>>574100345
>Multiknight theory is okay because even tho it's textually supported (none of the knight's behavior is contradictory) it would jprg af (it sounds cool)
>Kriselleknight is also JRPG af (your evil self coming from the future to conspire with you!!) and also textually supported but nobody likes it because it doesn't fit preconceived biases and would mean we have to stop pretending the game isn't about time travel
Well fuck me ig
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aqunnylingus theory
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>>574102729
...how the fuck did you do that?
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>>574102539
There's literally nothing more to discuss about
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>>574102973
LITERALLY built to be yanked up by his tail and fucked up his foxhole like a jackhammer
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>>574103117
Kriselleknight is like textually antisupported since it both requires Kris "Who is that" Dreemurr to respect any variant of themselves and requires a timeloop where Kris breaks the promise they make to Kriselleknight who came to be because Kris broke the promise to Kriselleknight
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Hi yooteegee did ya calm down from last night?
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>>574102985
glad to hear :D

>>574103007
my life is good

>>574103114
what
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>>574103117
>Kriselleknight
Kris Knight 2.0 with Noelle shit
>Dessrielknight
Asriel Knight 2.0 with Dess shit

fuck off
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they/themfab understands noelle better than here
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Ralsei is for ...
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>Toriel...... wasn't greatest mom.......
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>>574103320
>knight gets beaten offscreen because the fun gang suck
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I wonder what Toby Fangamer will do for the next charity event.
It sucks that we'll never get another sweepstakes, which only existed because the WAIT was so long.
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>>574103315
cister, the term is theyfab
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>>574103273
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>>574103045
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>>574103315
"trust me it's not cliche writing, Toby just has such a threedimensional view of these characters he can hide nuggets of characterization in the exact wording used"
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>>574103423
Sweepstakes was only one year in out of four years of WAIT
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>>574103320
Discarding.
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>>574103349
I keep forgetting how wacky Whump's art gets
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>>574102729
You know I hadn't realized that this was fetish art until just now.
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>>574103481
>he can hide nuggets of characterization in the exact wording used"
babe that's just called writing
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>>574103423
Fox is not doing anything ever because he got the money for DR so he has no incentive to do more fun events
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>>574103315
See, the problem here is that Noelle only said 'like' three times. Why not four? That's how you know some people just aren't paying attention, they don't get what's REALLY happening
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>>574098831
You are too literal-minded to theorize about a game like Deltarune, your IRL save file is bricked and you should start over right now
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Was it a transphobic microagression when Susie tricked Ralsei into putting on male pizza deodorant
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>>574103481
An important part of characterization is in fact, how the character phrases things when they speak
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>>574103580
Gross.
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>>574103580
She said like once here
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>>574103616
it's okay ralsei's not real you can do whatever you want to a darkner
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>>574098954
If you didn't read a little bit if insanity in her Normal Route behavior then I'm afraid you're simply too autistic to function.
People thought she was fucking strangling Berdly just because he suggested that he has a crush on her. She wasn't, but it felt in-character for her to do. In chapter 2.
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>>574102931
>>574103273
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>>574103435
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>>574100805
Serial works are not written in advance. At best they're outlined. Also I don't believe you that you found some big discrepancy

>>574102804
Gerson has 2 boss fights, counting the one in the second sanctuary against his "statue" with his same sound cues and motifs
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>>574103580
>said 'like' three times
NOELLE IS MAD MEW MEW CONFIRMED???
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Interesting how there's a double standard between Asgore and Mad Dummy in that one is allowed to stay in a dark world while another isn't for no real reason
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>>574103602
>dude just make shit up
you thought friend was going to be an epic big bad, didn't you
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>>574102442
it's just a rage comic bit. it's part of the nostalgia bait theming of the chapter.
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>>574103764
i don't usually self-insert as the woman
but
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>>574103821
danjodanjodandanjodan
danjaronajodan
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bed breaking sex with elnina while lanino watches (rouxls kaard is also watching and keeps trying to rest his hand on lanino's ass)
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>>574103785
I like how you can tell this artist is a KND fan just by the way they draw humans
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>>574103873
I thought the flower man would
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>>574103708
(pretend I wrote 'really' and act like I owned you)
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Wait was Susie homeless before moving into the closet?
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>>574103867
mad dummy isnt sacrifice fodder yet
asgore is
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>>574104026
Nah she lives in some shithole in the apartment block.
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>revealing her power level when the crush is around
Noelle almost fucked up here
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>>574103984
GAH. . . *falls on one knee* *grits teeth* *leather squeak noise as i clench fists* *dribbles a bit of drool down my chin*
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Genuinely think pink should have been just the doll
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Sustingus!
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>>574098831
>I'm sorry this wasn't hinted or elaborated at all until now
it was, just subtly, and her good golden child cover was very thick. but from the jump she didn’t really give a fuck when you all woke up and berdley was asleep. she went to see her dad and started freezing people in video games
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>>574104026
She lived in the apartments but her parents or guardians are negligent enough that they don't care or haven't noticed she's been gone for three days
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>>574104109
Well, it’s a good thing you don’t have creative control of anything that matters
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Genuinely think pink should have been excluded from the chapter
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>>574104218
Lol you think
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>>574104109
That's デレ without the ツン. What's the point?
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>>574103931
breaking bad sex with elnina while lanino watches for gus (rouxls kaard is also gus and keeps trying to isolate elnina(jesse) from me(walter))
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>>574104085
whycome aqua is the only flower with a different arrangement of petals
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Genuinely think pink should have been Gold
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>>574104225
Still can't believe the game forces you to flirt
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>>574104239
Flowery doesn't even look like his anime self what's up with that
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Pink
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>>574104323
Developmental issues stemming from when Asgore dropped the seed packet
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>>574100609
I think those are eyebrows
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Genuinely think the 2 in Pink should have joined the 1 in Stink
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My only fear is Toby playing suselle straight even when their desires would clash very hard
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i have a friend who looks exactly like seth in real life minus the purple skin (purple clothing still applies) and it kinda freaks me out
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Good morning, /utg/ :)
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I'm gonna go to subway and get a hot dog
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You think Toby would've made King or Queen tumblr sexymen if he got transported back in time to start all over again
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It's fucked up of Gaster to put me in a vessel that's Toriel's son, it's like he's forcing me into incest
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>>574104621
In what way do they clash?
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When Noelle moves to college and Susie becomes a construction worker (absolute best case scenario) would they still stay a couple
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Kris has to be biologically gender neutral. If they were NB because they were trans, they'd be able to double-jump.
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>anons here know people who look like Seth
>an anon here confessed to looking like Wayne
>one of our biggest lolcows looks like a fucking pippins irl
And what the fuck do I get compared to? A zapper, at best. Fuck this.
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>>574104510
highly pantsable seth
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OneyPlays is so fucking unfunny I’m glad they won’t touch Deltarune
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>literally same posts from previous thread
This place is fucking dead.
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>>574104748
ALL THE HUMAN PARTS
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>>574104723
Noelle wants changing, Susie wants her life to be the same forever.
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>>574104719
With my brother
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>>574104767
Post yourself and let us judge babygirl *blows smoke from my cigar*
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>>574104767
who the fuck is wayne
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Yo Kris, this thread tastes like ass what did you put in it?
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What happens if you sue Toby Fox in a US District Court?
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I want Susie to be mad at Kris for all the shit they are putting her through.
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>>574101920
>The game has been out for like three weeks
The game was out for years and is still not finished yet, retard.
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>>574104898
you lose because he calls over phoenix wright
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>>574104887
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>>574104795
My name is vinny vinesauce and I fucking hate Undertale and Deltaruin and I will never play it
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Sweepstakes part 3 featuring Tenna & Flowery corpse.
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>>574104795
this is about the culture war I can just tell
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Jevil Jeepstakes! It's gonna happen! Woo! Jevil Jeepstakes soon!! It's definitely coming!
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>>574100345
>multiple knights
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>>574104836
It's like you guys enjoy being called retard at this point
>>574104943
*pees in your mouth*
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>>574104767
>>574104887
>>574104964
You guys keeping up with HLVRAI 2? It's pretty good.
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kris fucking ralsei and ralsei trying not to cum first because he’s just a dirty darkner
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>>574104795
I don't watch other play deltarune or any video game I intend to play. I hate being performed at
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>>574104239
Flowery’s opened eyes always fucks with me. Why do they look like that?
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>>574104984
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>>574104621
Regardless of whether or not they end up staying together I have a feeling CH6 will test their relationship pretty hard
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>>574099515
"The radioactive green fox jumps over the annoying dog"
>>574103170
Toby removed him because he knew it was too much for regular audiences
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I genuinely believe that this is what the knight's armor is even if this was a shitpost image
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>>574105171
Damn, you are just going to open with that?
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>>574105123
Was this game worth it? It made you sit through this, completely mandatory
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>>574104836
We only know how far Noelle would go in the WR. In the normal timeline she could be interested in Susie's desires. Basically becoming the rulers of their own little world in the dark, away from their light world misery. Whether Toby will go the Marche route or present it as a good thing is to be seen.
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>>574105235
Mobile Suit Dark Fountain
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If you don't anticipate rocky shores for Suselle going forward then you might actually be braindead
These characters haven't spoken in any capacity until 5 days ago
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>>574103170
You mean his huge $$$$$$ tail?
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>>574105171
It's okay to cum first Be a good slave for me
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>>574105249
he also tries to subtly beg kris to give him a break but it never comes ouuugh oogh
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Let's say Kris gets exposed as a traitor. What's your preferred outcome?
>Kris pins the blame for everything on the SOUL, you get torn out while Kris stays with the party and you have to go solo mode for a while
>Kris gets kicked out of the party and you're forced to stick with them alone as they continue with the Knight agenda
>Kris gets kicked out of the party but not with the SOUL, you stay behind with Susie/Ralsei/Noelle
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I hope Suselle goes 100% smoothly just to see the rightoids suffer. I hope they kiss next chapter while Kris watches impotently
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>>574104948
why would they even fuck?
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>>574105235
that artist's a fucking genius every single shitpost is great
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>>574105354
>JUST 2 MORE WEEKS UNTIL SUSELLE CRASHES AND BURNS
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>>574100570
I just think she pretty and want to kiss her
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what is up with sans in this game? why does bro need to work so mamy minimum wage jobs? will the mortgage put him under in ch7?
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>>574105530
Thank god Toby Fox is writing something competent and from the heart instead of your spiteful drivel, eh?
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>>574105263
>"Worth it"
I've been playing videogames my whole life, tried most of the classics, nothing comes close to how these games make me feel. I would pay any price, this is my autistic obsession, this is my Sonic, this is my Kingdom hearts, the difference is that is actually really fucking good. The only reason I don't buy the collector edition of Undertale with the best friends forever pendant is because I know it won't be healthy for me. I'll glaze Toby for the rest of my life.
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>>574105530
I hope someone strangles you.
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>>574105530
I hope I get to go on adventures with my friends Kris, Susie, and Ralsei :)
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>>574105430
i cant see kris saying this
generally when i imagine him hes just silent or whatever he said is informed by other characters (similar to canon)
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>>574104687
No, but he definitely would've given them voicelines, because he hands those out like candy now apparently.
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>>574105624
pityfuck
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deltarune halloween hack
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>Susie is directly told the world has videogame menus
>She just doesn't give a fuck or think about it any harder so it's never mentioned again
Why is she so fucking stupid.
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>>574105639
Do you earnestly believe this game about a horrific prophecy that every main character is afraid of is going to have a teenage relationship be utterly untested?
Like I said, braindead
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>>574100570
>cute
>hot
>only character who gives Kris any
that's all you had to say
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>>574105529
I want to solo adventure with Kris.

Some one-on-one time while we actually learn what they're all about, and come to some sort of proper alliance. I highly, highly, highly doubt Ralsei would leave Kris though.

I actually think we're likely to get chapter 1 style, mostly Kris and Ralsei for an extended period of time.
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Kris will watch from the bench
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>>574105643
The guy who manned the ferris wheel last year was somebody else that Kris doesn't remember and Susie doesn't remember what was in the spot Sans's house sits on
Much to think about
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>>574105529
Something along the lines of the second one, sounds cliche but I think after something goes horribly wrong both (You) and Kris will end up together in disgrace and be forced to work together for real.
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>>574105235
if the knights a darkner, what is it?
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what is going on with the whiteboard
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>>574105123
That happens because she thinks Susie will change her life, Noelle barely knows Susie's personality.
She doesn't know Susie is a status quo person yet.
>>574105319
Maybe but Susie's wording would trigger Noelle I feel.
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>>574105779
It's so lame that Toby did this.
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>>574105859
sharty raid
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>>574104102
She totally watches anime
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>>574105929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8R0RujsIk4
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>>574105859
You know... THAT poster, they realized that their terrible plan, the one that involved leaving out THOSE links from that OP... didn't work. So now, he's done, well, THIS... And now, THAT whiteboard, is covered in THOSE things...
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>>574104102
What if noelle strangled you to death?
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>>574105779
The Susie that questioned Spamton is no longer with us. The new Susie only cares about her wholesome lesbian relationship and Castle Town cwitterz.
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Why does every cis white male-coded character HAVE to suffer? Why can’t my boy Kris get laid and be happy? Fuck this gay tranny homofascist earth
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This is what a Dreemurr's tail looks like. This on the Undertale 5th anniversary poster.
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>>574106026
I would cum and die
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>>574106026
I would die
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>>574105226
Radical radiation bro. Reminds me of a Bomberman Louie.
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>>574101464
>was
congrats on changing
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>>574104964
oh i thought they meant wayne from hylics
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Has anyone ever thought Toby Fox doesn't actually hate them and isn't making this game to spite them?
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>>574106079
I’ve been drawing them wrong this entire time…
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>>574105779
does susie even suspect kris at all at this point? not that she'd even show it because she somehow has rose tinted glasses for the present
shes just gonna stick her head in the sand till someone like noelle literally rips her out of there
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>>574106174
Me
I am fully aware of that
Suselle is obviously meant to have a bittersweet angle to it
This is the chapter of jealousy
Kris' actions make that obvious
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>>574106174
Why can't I pet dogs in this game then?
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I feel like people don't bring up Flowery literally saying
>Kris we've watched you since you were a child
>and I know that you've changed
>I don't know what your plans are
>but if they involve Asgore this is as far as you go
So not only does Flowery recognize Kris having changed even outside of the WR, he can also tell they have some grand plan that might specifically involve Asgore. He also says this directly in fron of Ralsei and Susie, so he 100% knows Ralsei is in the know and probably told Susie about it too while they were alone. Noelle isn't the only one who can tell Kris changed, yet nobody else exept the flowers can tell either for whatever reason.
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>>574106174
I don't understand why Toby Fox would do anything if it weren't to affect me personally in some way
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>>574106174
I don't think he's making the game to spite anyone, he clearly loves fans of his games. this idea of toby as someone who hates his fans and just wants to shit on them couldn't be any further from the truth. one of the reasons i think he stays quiet on things on so much is so that he doesn't step on the toes of fans and to give them the freedom to make their own headcanons.
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>>574106174
Toby loves me and is making this game so I have something to hold onto for dear life and not kill myself. I hope by the time Toby finishes it, I'll be in a better spot and I can thank him for getting me through the worst of it.
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>>574106289
>and probably told Susie about it too while they were alone
And yet she won't say shit. Three party members all patting each other's backs while hiding a knife with the other hand, sometimes literally. Great game.
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Toby hates heterosexual people and wants us to suffer
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>>574106119
Oh those guys are cute too thanks!
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>>574106243
>does susie even suspect kris at all at this point?
I think the moment where she mentions Kris being behind the shop just after the fountain was opened is where she lets the idea of Kris being responsible flash through her mind but she quickly moves on from it deciding it can't be possible.
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>>574106385
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I’m playing the star fox 64 remake and it’s kind of ass but I want to rub against Falco’s bird pussy so bad
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>>574106441
how can people genuinely be mad about this it’s so interesting
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>>574106470
>heterosexual people
You mean hetero men? Im a hetero woman and i am enjoying chapter 5
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Both Rudy and Flowery having the same subtle dislike of Kris in different ways is so damn well done
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Post that image of Ralsei standing on one leg
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>>574106545
Arlo said it was good though
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suselle won and no shitting your diapers will change that btw
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>>574106660
Flowery dislikes kris? Wait Rudy dislikes kris???
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>>574106660
>Rudy
>subtle dislike of Kris
huh?
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>>574106672
Gameplay wise it’s the same game which is objectively good but most of the voice acting kind of misses the mark
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>>574106289
Toriel thinks Kris is acting strange and asked at the hospital about it
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>>574106385
>>574106524
foul creature, disgusting foul horrible wretched creature. can't believe they're letting that beautiful hamster near that wretched thing
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EXTREME SCHIZOTHEORY: We never met the REAL Purple in ch5.
Seth was actually the tsundere cactus that Kris hid in their personal inventory the player can't see.
It's suspicious how Kris made a "deal" with Seth and the Berdly feather distracted us from questioning it.
Ok wait let's go back to that, WHAT FUCKING DEAL? WHY DOES SETH TALK LIKE THEY KNEW EACH OTHER BEFORE THE FOUNTAIN WAS MADE? WHAT THE FUCK DID KRIS DO AT THE END OF CH4? DID THEY SNEAK THE CACTUS INTO FLOWER KING OR SOMETHING? IS SETH A TRAITOR? DOES FLOWERY KNOW? IS PURPLE GUY INVOLVED SOMEHOW?
*hyperventilates*
i just woke up
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>>574106092
>>574106094
Wow. Imagine dying from being strangled. Couldn’t be me. Humans are so weak, it’s easy to forget how weak they are sometimes.
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>>574106441
thats the whole point of ch5, the cracks are appearing, everyone knows they cant keep doing the same thing anymore, and the whole chapter is one big cope where they all try to pretend everything is fine for one last adventure
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>>574106714
What if Noelle shit her diaper in Susie's arms and asked Susie for a change
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>>574106598
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I can’t stop farting
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I want to draw does
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>>574106545
Bird males are for human women.
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>>574106837
Record it.
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>>574106837
mystery windu
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>>574105840
Oh shid my peanits
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>>574106660
Why would that matter? Blue and Yellow are Rudy and Asgore. Flowery is Asriel
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>>574106835
>AI fucked up the gag
Jarona virus is actually funny though dammit
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>>574106769
Kris can talk to flowers. Seth is not the cactus because if they were, they would've been trying to fuck Kris not Berdly
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>>574106983
its just a joke from this
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How would Ralsei react if I told him I was going to stab myself in the heart?
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>>574106481
Susie is stupid but it's clear she connected the dots here.

We saw this back in chapter 1 and chapter 4, but Susie resorts to denial and not thinking about possibilities that make her uncomfortable.

This scene is likely going to be used by Susie to mentally beat herself up when the betrayal does happen. "I knew it and I didn't want to think it was happening. What am I stupid? Who would want to be my friend anyway?"

Toby does an excellent job of making character moments emotionally charged and I think this is setup for a painful payoff.
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>>574107096
Creating a darkworld inside yourself....
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>>574105869
This is not good for you Catti, you are only gonna hurt yourself more
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Wife
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>>574107096
You're not a Lightner so he wouldn't care
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>>574106598
because it doesn't make logical sense, unless susie's crashout after the statue fight was genuinely just a personal attack against people who thought ralsei was evil by saying "you made ralsei cry, you should feel bad"
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>>574107183
Oh, he’d probably freak out then ‘cause he’d think I was gonna create a Titan ‘cause I’d already have to be in a dark world for him to react.
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>>574100921
Now post her trying to twist burgerpants’ head 270 degrees
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Ralsei IS evil tho he just believes he is righteous
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I dont know if i abd taste but i found flowery funny, like from the start on
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>>574107319
this would be hot
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>>574107153
When I say she "decides" it's not possible I don't mean because she's stupid I meant because she's in denial like you said, I totally agree with you. I think deep down Susie understands but she wont let herself accept it yet because it would destroy this new life she's building for herself where she's actually happy for the first time in her life.
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>>574107394
Me too actually but ig it was also cuz I was a flowey fan so seeing a version of him again and so wildly different was very fun
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>>574107063
Okay but Seth still gives off traitor vibes I don't trust em. They even withhold information from their own friends.
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>>574107319
>>574107397
He is only capable of evil if the reward is cock
>>574107289
This is so great and sad
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>>574107469
i was not a big flowey fan i just find it fucking funny how he just fucks around
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>>574106470
you know its funny, a few years ago I played a game called "In Stars and Time". A major character in the game looks at the camera and says "I'm trans". A different character in the game is nonbinary. The protagonist is in gay love with the trans character.

Not once during my playthrough did I think "the creator hates men or hetero-sexual love".
(Also In Stars and Time is a great game)

Meanwhile in Deltarune, the game refuses to say Transexuality or homosexuality and i think Toby Fox actually hates men.
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>>574107394
i saw him and i fell in love immediately but i tried to convince myself he was a bad guy and annoying just for kayfabe since ralsei was clearly annoyed by him and i assumed toby wanted me to be annoyed by him too but as the chapter went on i just couldn't pretend to hate him anymore he's just so fucking funny
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hey guys!
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>>574107394
Nah you're fine. Flowery is funny as hell.
I think a lot of people entered the Dark World annoyed and were somewhat closed off to being entertained. Most people warmed up to Flowery by the end anyway.
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>>574106769
The flowers are like older then kris and are all aware of him and asgore's family
Its just that ones like aqua and yellow are extremely dumb
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If you guys want the polar opposite of Undertale, this is a game about a princess who can only attack. It seems to be going for similar themes.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4902640/Attack_Only/
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Uh, guys...?
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>>574107317
Close enough
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HAYYY BOOOYYSSS
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>>574107573
>>574106470
This is a chud take and yet I cannot refute it with confidence ...
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Still cant believe mad dummy won
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>>574107658
Begone dev we only play games with fuzzy cwitters here
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>>574107602
Hi :)
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I believe every theory is fake and gay so I'll never be disappointed by what actually happens in the story
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Five foot seven the 4chan fag
Is waiting for the touch of a man
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>kris is getting even more sidelined in chapter 6
>all because the sewer cunt who wets her panties by the thought of someone giving her attention has a little gf now
>"ooohhh, we gotta ask for help now kris. i'm going to call my girlfriend!!!"
i'll make them pay, Dreemurr
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Did Toby make Flowery say Hey guys so that if you search Toby Fox Hey Guys clips of Flowery come up instead of that one video of him.
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>>574107451
i cant wait for the generational susie crashout chapter
>>574107573
thats what happens when you refuse to troon out and age like a dude, many such cases
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>>574107194
I need her
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>>574107797
There is a man I wanna touch yeah
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>>574107920
SPREADING DISEASES STILL WITHOUT A PLAN
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>>574107319
Ralsei is a stupid moralist who thinks he can "subvert" the prophecy by meeting it halfway instead of outright ignoring it
the sad thing is the game probably agrees with him too RIP Flowery character so good even the game devs are threatened by him
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>>574107790
my theory?
you are funny and not retarded
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>>574107857
Ch6 will have susie talk about noelle nonstop
Like every room she will find an excuse to go like "reminds me of noelle haha she would love it here haha" the whole chapter.
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>>574107319
>prince enters foreign land without notice accompanied by two trusted knights
>claims to be chosen by god for sacred task of razing the landscape and deporting residents to his own kingdom for “balance”
>one knight immediately strikes it out on her own and begins thrashing local troops and stealing from commoners
>more loyal knight stays with prince to proselytize, indoctrinate locals, and beat into submission and kidnap those who resist using magic
>they start pillaging local coffers as well
>previous lady knight attempts to groom young local prince to her side
>conspire to overthrow the local king
Seems pretty evil to me
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>>574107915
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>>574107667
People have mentioned it since chapter 1 era. But I think it's fun to revist so...

>Kris shares a name with a sword.
>Sword explicitly magic in nature.
>Kris can't do magic.
>Kris gets increasingly insecure about it.

Kris needs to love themselves in spite of their limitations omfg dude a hot monster-4-human is not gonna solve their self-hate.
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Flowery saying "Hey guys" as foreshadowing that: Ralsei is male, Susie will FtM transition, and Kris will be a he/him all along
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>>574108042
shes gonna BE there nigga
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>>574108042
You know I'm starting to think this suselle bait guy doesn't actually like how Suselle is written
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toby hates only one category of people : togorefags
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>>574107971
Someone has to start the jerons virus, silly!
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>>574108072
He also calls them all princesses at one point so he believes they're all genderfluid
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>>574108142
and bergentruck truthers
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>>574108165
This is true
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>>574107741
Pro-gay =/= anti-straight
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Ralsei isn't evil because of the prophecy he's evil because he's a bad friend to Susie
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>>574107289
>Captn, Chips and other guy (KK?).
I don't even know if I got any of those right. I sure as shit couldn't tell you whose who. And I doubt you could either.
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>>574099515
I shall keep using the whiteboard even if the middle area has been nuked.
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On a scale of 10 to 10, how fucking SCARED is Gaster right now knowing that the Knight failed to kill Flowery?
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>>574107573
Saw this game at SGDQ and im planning to play it now. Is it fun?
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>>574108142
Toby is just jelly cuz he actually wishes he had came up with togore
>>574108204
Thats because he is mad a shitpost unironically cracked the mystery
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>>574108204
>Chapter 6 has a cutscene where Kris crashes Asgore's truck through the Holiday Manor gates and into the Knight to protect Susie
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>>574107658
>female protag
>probably a waifub8 game
yawn
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>>574108059
Lancer crossed the border, violating the treaty and giving Castle Town a casus belli for total war.
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>>574108142
i think togore's a shit meme too but that tweet made after the undertale anniversary name poll absolutely reeked of seethe and i still wonder what the fuck what that was about, he could have just brushed it off like gaster
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>>574108289
>ALL ACCORDING TO- ALL ACCORDING TO PLANT
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>>574108289
why would he be scared?
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>>574108289
i dont think anyone is scared of half a flower
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>>574108228
Is pro-straight =/= anti-gay?
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>>574108304
Oh yes its fun, its very story focused.
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>>574108289
quivering on his green pirate ship as we speak
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>>574108289
gaster's only concern is us, and possibly the forgotten man, he won't be the main villain.
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>>574108289
Oh and it's literally on the sand!
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>>574108228
I guess the cattenheimers are a happy, straight couple
>>574108229
>Sucks her cock anytime she asks him
In what world is that evil?
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>>574107658
>3D overworld

Sorry not playing this
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"5. "Will there be multiple endings?"
No. No matter what you do the ending will be the same."
https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9
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>>574108289
Gaster already knows Flowery survives. It's part of the plant.
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Does Ralsei have a cuck fetish?
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>>574107751
Iirc, it's one of the first concepts Tony came up with (an enemy that will find a stupid reason to fight you no matter what option you chose) so I understand why he's gotten absurdly attached to the character.
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fave went to a rave and ended up in a cave
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>>574108526
I wish Susie asked me to suck her cock...
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>>574108606
I still think it's a shit idea unless it's some bullshit like "the end is when you close the game so it's always the same"
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>>574108103
>Noelle will keep disrupting the trio dynamic
>Susie will keep coping
>3 minute cutscene where Susie goes: "Heh, guess having a girlfriend doesn't mean I get to rub her in on every aspect of my life."
God, I hate this subplot.
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Ralsei's sexual fixation with a school child is concerning
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I wake, I’ll go clean the whiteboard right now
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>>574108702
no he's just really horny for lightners
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>>574108526
He sucks her cock anytime she asks BUT he also knows that Kris's plan will involve her getting put into a cock cage and never getting her cock sucked again after finally getting her cock sucked and he's complicit in keeping this a secret
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how significant do you think aborted chapter 5 WR will be in chapter 6 given Noelle is involved. A few lines of dialogue? A significant change? A massive change? Nothing at all?
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>>574108836
Kris's imaginary friend modeled after their brother has a sexual fixation with him

Really makes you think
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>>574107903
>i cant wait for the generational susie crashout chapter
I feel pretty confident that there's gonna be a Susie fight at some point.
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Toby has a incest fetish that has been a thing since forever
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>>574108881
Just saw that happen. Thank you.
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>>574108140
That's the sad part. Only being able to take joy in the crashouts of others, rather than being able to enjoy Suselle for it's own quality and merit.

I was looking forward to it, and while it was kinda cute it was pretty... weak compared to how much emotion Toby usually puts into his writing.

It's to the point where I'm not sure it's intentional or not. Is Toby trying to illustrate an infatuation that might see troubles or is Toby just struggling to write a good romance?
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>>574108824
theyre gonna have a breakup arc once kris looks noelle in the eyes and makes a fountain right there and susie will spend the whole chapter coping about how its not true
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KRIS NO IF YOU DONT LISTEN TO ME YOU GONNA GET KEKED NO KRIS !!! PUT THE RING ON KRIS!!!
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>>574108946
If you do the Lake Abortion Noelle hardlocks into her a Noelle can be only a Noelle mindset so it's probably going to be her acting like normal but you can tell it's an act
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>>574108924
Yeah, but he prays everyday to the angel for Kris to NOT put Susie in a cock cage. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up betraying Kris, stealing the key to the cage from them to free Susie and suck her cock once again.
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>>574109134
Can I joke that the reason the eggs are never in our inventory between chapters is because something keeps eating them?
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<3
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Fave woke up to literally everything outside being covered in a yellow filter. Is the roaring happening today? Fave lives in the Montreal area.
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>>574109175
Is the soul the anti-ntr man?
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>>574099827
Soriel is a bad ship anyways. Also we've basically been aware that Sans wasn't from the UT timeline for a decade anyways.
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>>574109124
I think the goal was to pull Susie out of the spotlight a bit and focus on Kris in the Light World segments. It makes Susie look worse because we're supposed to be feeling for Kris here. We control Kris' body through a very awkward situation, third-wheeling a date with a best friend and a childhood friend. We either make them uncomfortable by taking away from their date or make Kris feel left out from their own life by helping Susie and Noelle along. It's meant to feel strange and awkward
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>>574109313
It's called golden hour it happens and dawn and dusk and if you wait a bit youll also get the pink hour
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>>574109098
>>574108881
Can we do something to prevent this from happening when the creator of the board is not around?
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how's the thread? did /v/ posters leave or are they still whining over being banned and shitting things up?
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Spamton Flowery swap when
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thecoolautisticreindeer1225
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>>574108906
This is false. Ralsei doesn't react to Noelle or Berdly like at all, and there is a thick degree of difference between how he treats Susie and Kris
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Susie seems to me like the "oblivious happy idiot" character now in contrast to Kris and Ralsei who are Knowers and know what's going on but not telling Susie
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>>574109124
>>574109407
I'm not anti-Suselle, but yeah. I liked the interactions in chapter 4 a lot more.
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>>574108534
Love her bedroom eyes.
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>deltarune threads killed on sight
>twitter trump coin thread has 400 posts
I fucking hate jannies so much
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>>574109584
susie is also a knower atp but would really prefer if she could just be an oblivious happy idiot
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>Kris lets take the mentally unstable retard to the dark world, she will help us to beat the Roaring Knight
KRIS SPEAK UP YOU FAGGOT AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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Game gotten worse throughout the years haven't it
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>>574109643
seeing your suffering makes me miss being a janitor unironically, I will admit it is fun to squash autists like bugs
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>>574109431
Take a guess >>574109643
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>>574109429
The best solution I've found it is to "copy all", it's not really a fix but you create a copy of all the drawings onto a new whiteboard and become the owner of all of the lines. You delete the ones in the way and I guess just use that time to screenshot all the drawings.
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>>574109561
>* Don't you LIKE serving humans...?
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I like Orange
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Susie is a dumb whore and I hate Suselle!
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>>574108824
>>574108103
If that is really what happens I'm gonna lose it
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>>574109643
theres a stealth thread that the jannies haven't noticed up right now
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>>574109724
>he did it for free
>he took his "job" very seriously
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>>574109696
susie and noelle would beat the roaring fraud on their own because at least theyre trying unlike fraudsei and kr*s
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>>574109696
The thirst for purple dragon pussy got kris acting unwise
it is a known condition
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>>574109313
Ralsei cast FireGrave
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Need more pics of Seth with a fat ass
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>>574109696
Ever tried explaining to someone why their crush is bad for them?
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>>574109787
Can anybody make that /v/ image about gatekeeping hobbies but it's Castle Town and it slowly gets invaded by Noelle and Berdly?
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/utg/ = fancy palace filled with cute people wearing frilly dresses (female or otherwise)
/v/ = crack addicted whores that throw glass bottles at people all the time and demand every place they're in to become a crack den

You are RUINING my palace jannies, deal with your crack addicts on your own NOW!!
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>>574109754
Me too, she's neat
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Suselle will be kino the clash of two schizos thinking love will fix their life.
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>>574109743
>Ralsei admits his servile attitude towards Susie is cause she's half-human

How is she gonna react to the little darkie airing out his raceplay fetish
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>>574109934
tomorrow /utg/ will be better... *muffled sobbing* t-tomorrow for sure... my /utg/ friends will be all here again...
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Why do this chapter fill like it was thrown together to pad for time
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>>574109934
>Males getting demoted to "otherwise"
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>>574109429
unfortunately not, but >>574109741 is the best temporary fix
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>>574109754
>>574110007
what an adorable human
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He's so fucking cool...
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>>574110197
Our FUARKING hero...
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Fact: Suselle will work
Reasoning: Noelle has antlers making her a potent thrown projectile thus compatible with Susie'sIdea
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>>574110054
>the clash of two schizos
Kris and Noelle?
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>>574109934
If /v/tards at least tried to fit in with /utg/ culture i'd learn to tolerate them but they act like they're on /v/ still instead of behaving
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>>574109469
carol...
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>>574109741
Ok, thanks for explaining.
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>>574110180
The best humans are pocket-sized
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>>574099515
He hates him so so so so much.
>"I KNOW YOU AREN'T HIS COLLEGE ROOM-MATE! I WAS THERE!"
>"YOU THINK YOU KNOW HIM LIKE I DO YOU OVERGROWN WEED?"
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>>574110153
It wasn't filler. Toby explicitly wrote down "introduce 7 Steven Universe rejects and fellate Japanese media for an entire chapter" on his story treatment back in the sweltering summer of 2016. It is a load-bearing section of the story and I wish you'd give it the respect it deserves.
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Why didn't Ralsei use his fire power against the knight in chapter 3?
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If the FRIENDS are coming up next chapter what does that mean for the Seam boss fight
Is the Pure Crystal getting pushed up to Chappy 7
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>>574110159
wont someone think of the poor opressed men?
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>>574110249
I only just realized that all Susie's ideas have been throwing things thanks to this post... I love that goober.
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>>574110365
You know it took me this drawing to realize the irony of a catgirl being besties with a mouse.
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>>574110438
Because they can't win yet, the prophecy hadn't played out properly
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>>574110438
Because doing Firegraves locks them into the Prophecy route and he wants to alter it by being pacifist
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>>574109934
I would rather fuck a crack addict than a monarch
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>>574110541
HIS ENTIRE FUCKING WISH IS TO AVERT THE PROPHECY
I'M GETTING PISSED OFF
I'M BECOMING A PISSED OFF GAMER.
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>>574108702
no he just ships krusie
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>>574110708
Forgive me Ralsei, I wasn't familiar with your game
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>>574110398
It's filler slop that killed plot build up and character growth but too bad that everyone need to act out of character because of "MUH PLOT" at the cost of everyone acting in character
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>>574110442
Hey we should all treat eachother mutual respect here
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>>574110531
It's cute as fuck. I also headcanon Orange is based on a bratty young Undyne from Asgore's younger days so their bond is kind of poetic.
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Will this retard be relevant in the future?
He can ask Gaster to be his second in command.
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Why did he call Asgore a fruit here? is he homophobic?
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You know what's *really* weird?

There's a parallel between Ralsei and Noelle this chapter I've yet to see anyone talk about.

Obviously everyone knows the WR and Noelle holding Kris's hands and leading them into the water. Yet this also happens at another point during the chapter when, unable to complete a 4 person puzzle, Susie bypasses some spikes, and to follow her, Ralsei holds Kris's hands in the same manner as Noelle to pass through the spikes.
I'm reminded of a plot point in another game UnderRAIL where this ascended cyborg godman insists that you defeat the final boss because his higher state leaves him uniquely vulnerable, where as you, a lower entity more grounded in the world can't be affected.

We are a higher being but are uniquely stopped from doing things like entering the lake, unless directly aided by a lower being, like with Noelle or Ralsei.
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>>574110574
>>574110438
>>574110541
>>574110656
Don't worry about it because i'm sure the hack writing this will 100% say why and not just handwave it away
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I'm mad about Deltarune, so I'll go to the Deltarune thread and tell all the Deltarune fans how mad I am about Deltarune.
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it's kind of funny how puzzles now feel like a nostalgic optional thing. The "fun". But they don't really have to be done and everyone knows it. Ralsei can just solve whatever. Spikes aren't even real. You can just walk over them. Noelle can freeze puzzles too.
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>>574111063
Ralsei gently walking Kris through the spikes was probably my favorite Ch5 moment
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>>574110257
What is /utg/ culture?
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What is the plot of this thing being Japanese again because it feel like this was just made to mock fans who was looking for plot by using their brains with how the hidden boss add nothing to the plot at all
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>>574110375
Angle man Angle man

he can stab you

with his pants
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>>574111154
making shitty dice OCs
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>>574111063
I like that it adds to the whole meta awareness that it's a game thing we have going on
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>>574110442
being a moid unironically SUCKS
if you're not in the top or bottom 10% people just look through you like you're not even there and you don't matter to anybody
if you express even the slightest amount of vulnerability even your own friends will call you faggot and look at you like a disgusting weakling failure
we enforce apathy and misery on each other
and if you don't participate in that enforcement you are ostracized from the group and don't even get to experience the minimal joys that present male companionship provides
Pondered Ruins Dummy
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>>574111154
Organikk...
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>>574111154
jerking off to Spamton
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>>574110892
No Rouxls will never be relevant.
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>>574111154
making kino OCs
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>>574109754
For me it's the yellow fellow
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>>574111212
thats why toby hates men, hes just an average dude who cosplays girls sometimes
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>>574111006
To me the story only makes sense if Susie and/or Ralsei are destined to become the villains, refusing to give up Castle Town and being pushed to attempt bring the Roaring. That's why Ralsei wants to keep the violence to a minimum because once he starts throwing hands it all goes exactly as prophecized, maybe he thinks showing Susie kindness is the only way to make her do the right choice. Gerson even flat out says it to Susie: she's the Dragon. The dragon is traditionally a bad guy. She's just too retarded to understand the implications of that sentence.
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My Angry Adolescent and Divided Cyber City
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>>574111212
I sure am glad that never happens to women ever at all in any form nope it's sunshine and rainbows
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>>574111157
The whole chapter felt subtly mean spirited and spiteful but we aren't allowed to talk about it
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>>574111212
men rule the world nigga stop complaining about minor inconveniences

women have to suffer through lookism like that and much worse due to the patriarchy
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>>574111154
Talking about fave and indulging in thinly veiled therapysessionposting
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there are little teeny nuggets of ralsei being judgy towards kris. like if you make the thrash machine too sexy he doesnt disagree with susie that its weird (he just says it’s okay to express yourself)
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>>574109754
Seth! I love Seth!!!
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>>574111432
>little teeny nuggets of ralsei
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>>574111402
nta but men and women have different problems and it isn't a contest
for the vast majority of men "ruling the world" doesn't benefit them in any way
I don't get a cut
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>>574110820
do you? even the trans women?
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>>574111154
fave love. do any of these filthy refu/v/ees even love a fave? do they create art of fave? write about them? or is it hollow, endless arguing about the pixel width of asgore's left ass cheek in the juju on that beat cutscene?
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>Krusie
>Suselle

which ship is more delusional?
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>>574109795
Not any more, janny woke up
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18 NAKED FLOWERS DOWN IN THE SHOWERS AT FLOWER KING
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>>574111157
Gaster is a japanese green pirate
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>>574111383
your dad has never called you a queer disappointment and disgrace
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>>574111157
The only point of the hidden boss was to show a Shadow Crystal being btfo after Gerson did it for you previous chapter.
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>>574111157
>>574111392
>>574111580
You don't understand because you're wrong for buying into theories despite them being based on the plot itself and logic for where and how the plot will go
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>>574111212
>>574111383
>>574111402
Maybe we should all accept and be empathetic to eachothers struggles instead of having a contest over it
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>>574111518
shoving them all in kris’ mouth
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>>574111557
The one that is never going to happen and isn't a central aspect of the game's plot obviously
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>>574111432
>towards kris
Towards YOU. Ralsei dislikes things YOU do. Ralsei likes Kris unconditionally and has never complained about anything Kris does, only things YOU do. Don't get it twisted.
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He is fagging up guys
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>>574111603
My dad emptied the trash can into my bed and told me I deserve to sleep in trash when he saw me crying against my bedroom door
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>>574111646
Kris then starts morphing
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>>574111432
>* You were so brave... and yet...
>* In the end... our struggle...
>* It's only beginning, isn't it...?
>* ... Isn't it, Kris...?
I think this is the only time he genuinely loses his temper a little
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>>574111609
I truly don't believe Toby is that fucking petty. It's only pretentious essayists and irony poisoned twitter addicts projecting their wishes onto him. Maybe he'll leave something to the imagination but only out of a genuine belief that you should not give everything away, not as a diss on the player.
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>>574111603
>>574111725
So is this the /utg/ culture you were talking about?
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>>574111646
ralsei (my friend) inside me?
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>>574111795
no I'm from /v/
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>>574111557
Ralsoul
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>>574111725
nta, but goddamn, what a dick
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>fuck you for making theories about my game that took 20 years for me to finish
why is he like this?
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>>574111392
You can talk about it, but I'm gonna make fun of you for being a cuck.
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>>574111576
>nO i WAS NOT USInG THEM as HANDLES AND RIPPED THEM oFF BY ACCIDent
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>>574111157
>>574111609
>nooo it was supposed to be my GOD Friend! How DAAAAARE Toby not make them the main character of the game!!!!
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>>574111528
Yeah I hold my own opinions on that, but I'll call you whatever you want and think those copypastas and shitty wojaks are pretty awful and tasteless
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>>574111525
you get a passive cut that you see as the norm without realizing others dont
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if chapter 5 had just released with 6 no one would be complaining
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>>574111904
then describe that cut
I have heard this a hundred times but have never heard an elaboration
do I enjoy these benefits? do I want them? am I in any position to use them? would your life improve in my position?
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>>574111713
he loves me retard
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>>574109887
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>>574110923
Yes, I think the point was to show like you said that you are constrained by the limits by the game unless helped by someone with meta knowledge like Ralsei or weird Noelle. Basically, to skip the game you need them
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>>574111392
I agree unfortunately. I get the big picture emotion of this chapter is 'jealousy' but having Toby write that emotion into his work to flow into the player is...

Not... good? I don't really know how to finish the thought. It makes me feel bad seeing other people feel so bad. Artistically it seems to be an accomplishment but it's done damage to people's moods and perceptions.
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>>574111756
He freaks out and goes WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! ATTACK!! If you're not attacking the Titan when its shield is down
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ralsei only likes kris because WE'RE controlling him. ralsei wants ACTUAL human dick not the dick of some meat puppet
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>>574112062
Isn't that like getting upset about Star Wars 5 not having a happy ending
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>>574111725
What the fuck is wrong with (i'm assuming) Gen X parents, why are they complete sociopaths
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>>574112002
>Kris, yesterday, when you played that giant piano...
>Your performance... it had something beyond the notes.
>After you left for the Festival today...
>I tried to play that song, too. On the piano in Castle Town.
>But I...
>I couldn't do it like you.
>Even if we press the same keys
>Your fingers just know something that mine don't.
>You... must be really special, Kris.
Ralsei loves Kris and Kris only. Ralsei doesn't like you at all.
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>>574112062
I'm not jealous as I was never trying to fuck school girls.
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>>574111892
>>574111782
The plot mean nothing and mock fans for wanting it to go how the logic tell you it should go
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>toby needs to stop making baby games for gay toddlers and write angst and suffering for REAL men
>writes the main character suffering even just a liiiiiiiiitle bit
>/v/ goes absolutely ballistic and claims toby fox is attacking them personally
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>>574112062
The problem is that the game is still not finished. Yeah the chapter is written deliberately to make you feel jealous, problem is, you're meant to play Chapter 6 after it, but there is no Chapter 6, so you're stuck with this feeling of jealousy without being able to move on for over a year until 6 comes out.
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>>574111946
>8th option
not necessary to include that unless you were posting this to twitter or something
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Every character besides Susie became seething or miserable over the course of chapter 5 but Deltarune fans are mostly underage transbians so it was a really happy and upbeat chapter for them
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>>574112186
>>574112119
your rebuttal?
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Deltarune will finally finish by 2036, thank god
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>>574112252
this desu, shoulda just released them together
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>>574112062
>>574111392
Art is often challenging, if you can't take it gacha games will always have girls for you to say 'I love you'
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>>574112320
It's about catharsis, the flowers' tale is front and center of the chapter and while sad, it's cathartic and beautiful.
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>>574111993
do you fear sexual harrassement while outside?

do you constantly get approached by people that only want to fuck you and view you as an object and not a person?

do you have to worry about your human rights when thinking of traveling abroad?

do you have to worry about your own country arbitraly removing your rights?

do you have to defend your own existence to half the population?

have you ever been harrassed due to your gender and had to bear it to not get fired?

i can go on
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>>574112320
>Deltarune fans are mostly underage transbians
This is also the audience Toby is deliberately targeting by the way
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>the big picture emotion of this chapter is 'jealousy'
>the chapter is written deliberately to make you feel jealous
media illiterate self inserter moment
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>>574112186
Ralsei is so gross, if anyone ever spoke to me like this I would immediately hate them. Fucking freak.
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Taste my JARONA
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>>574112409
I concede
but I would sooner argue that those should be baseline and not the norm
I don't have benefits, you have downsides
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>>574112486
Ok so what do you think Toby was trying to write here then
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Thanks god i'm not a traumatized kid like you but a failed neet ruining family's wealth. Not being a faggot helps, i guess.
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>>574112402
>please feel sad a bunch of characters introduced at the last minute who you will never see again
I kinda... don't care?
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>>574112329
Ralsei is specifically complimenting Kris's piano playing because KRIS did it without us. He knows the difference if you try to play it yourself and he can barely bring himself to say your version isn't total dogshit. He likes the Kris that exists outside of your control, he doesn't like you.
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I hope thast when Deltarune gets released we have access to the original heroes and their doomed timeline
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>>574112380
There is nothing challenging about this gay ass discourse on theorybait, just authors who mindlessly copy a method of storytelling developed by shrewd showbiz people and artsy fartsy types trying to sneak plot in kids' cartoons, while at the same time being afraid to truly commit to a serious narrative.
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>>574112546
Suckle it up
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>>574112605
>introduced at the last minute
The entire chapter was about them, dipshit.
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>>574112445
>>574112320
>>574112402
>>574112605
>>574112486
>>574112591
You will eat the slop and you will be happy
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>>574112645
>surely fate must be conspiring against
>surely noelle in her heart of hearts must love me
>all we need to do is go back to the """original timeline""", this one is clearly a perversion
YOU
NEVER
MATTERED
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>>574112538
And that's why you're alone, anon
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>>574112591
kris (the antagonist) is starting to rightfully crash and burn while everyone else's lives get better at their expense
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>>574112605
yeah that's the problem. if you don't like the flowers (which is very likely since one is deliberately pissing you off and the other six are offputting and out of place) this chapter completely falls flat. They are there to blow smoke in your face and not make you think too hard about the fact this chapter was just "chapter 3/4 but more".
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>>574109795
>>574111558
This is annoying. I feel as though the vast majority of /v/nons fucked off from the site entirely. I don't think that many are going to /vrpg/ either.
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We kinda loooooooove Fave
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At some point in Deltarune Ralsei will ask (You)r help to save Susie from Kris
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you ever think about how fucked up deltarune is going to feel for people a decade from now who are gonna pick it up for the first time and play through the full game in one sitting?
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>>574112751
>love me
Wrong
She loves Kris
And Kris loves her
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wtf are you dumb retards fighting about now
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>>574112538
Toby is just really really bad at writing romance
Please understand that he is a grown man who genuinely believes that sort of writing sounds sweet and endearing
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>>574112760
And you don't think this is made in such a way that the player will also share those feelings?
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>>574112821
If Kris attacked Susie, Ralsei would just say that Kris must know better than him and attack Susie too
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>>574111157
I think it’s because it’s a garden, and he probably likes Japanese style gardens
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>>574112574
>I don't have benefits, you have downsides
those are... not??? comparable????? at all??????
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>>574112878
>>574112878
>>574112878
Hop on
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>>574112783
>the fact this chapter was just "chapter 3/4 but more".
You mean less because 3/4 at least moved the plot and build on it unlike chapter 5
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>>574112854
Actually, they both love Susie. Try to keep up.
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>>574112862
The usual, love of fictional characters
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>>574112630
ralsei compliments the player for their bravery during the knight battle then takes a shit at Kris by saying their battle is only just beginning. ralsei knows about the player and keeps bringing up who's choices? the player's choices that they'll do the right thing. yeah sure. ralsei totally hates the player
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>>574111557
the one that lost
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>>574112886
the player is meant to hate kris the same way kris hates the player
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>>574112574
yes but that's the reality of things
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>>574112409
NTA but I'll tell you this, most men are not going to give a shit about your problems because we are smart to know (or have already experienced) no woman will give a shit about our problems. Even if you know them to be true, even if you see proof in your face of men suffering or even dying, you just won't give a shit, so there is no need to do victim's Olympics, let's just accept how things are.
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>>574112827
Yeah especially considering it was never completed after Toby Fox jumped down the Tōjinbō cliffs.
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>>574112918
benefits aren't comparable to downsides? what?
getting raped is so far from my mind that I barely even considered it. I was thinking more socially and economically
being in your position is a harrowing thought but totally unrelatable. connotatively, being not raped would not strike me as a benefit
I will not speculate on the likelihood of any of the events you described, but I too will reserve my right to question how harmful any or all can be to a person's mind
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>>574112402
fuck them i felt more grief for tenna
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One time a woman laughed at me and it made me feel weak, so that means they're not oppressed
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>>574113012
you are generalizing all women and getting upset

while the suffering women go through happens no matter what be it by men or not, you need to make up a fictional "big woman who hates men" in your head to feel oppressed
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>>574112941
Noelle "loves" Susie because she reminds her of Dess
Kris doesn't love Susie and has only pity for their prophecy sacrifice
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>>574112186
Somebody should tell Ralsei that the feeling isn't mutual.
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>>574112979
Does Ralsei blush and say his happy ending is with "you" after the Knight fight? No? He does that after complimenting Kris's piano skills, while staring directly at Kris? Almost like he loves Kris and not you.
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>>574113110
men can get raped
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>>574113012
what suffering is exclusive to men? that anon gave us a list so give us yours
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>>574113403
>Kris doesn't love Susie
120 hp
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>>574112486
Pick Catty in the burgerpants section and talk to Bratty.

Go put your hands in the eyeball bowl and talk to Catti.

Look when Seth tells Aqua to choose one friend or another and then interrupts Aqua before she can "make the wrong choice."

Look at Flowery temporarily replacing Ralsei and rubbing it in.

Look at Kris refusing to say "You and Noelle will work out."

Look at Susie commenting on Kris and Noelle's past friendship. "I was jealous."

Please tell me how I'm being illiterate here in saying jealousy was a big theme this chapter.
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>>574113575
120 hp of pity
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>>574113727
burgerpants is a joke character who only exists for funny moments
the rest of those are cute moments where characters who aren't kris build up their love for each other
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why do people cling to tea values instead of paying attention to actual character interactions
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>>574113487
nta but not all of the listed experiences are alien to men in the first place
I would say men struggle to make meaningful friends and form social structures. Women can also fail at that, but are less likely to
The question starts and ends at "am I miserable because of this?"
How many women are thinking of being raped at any given moment, regardless of likelihood? What would prove to anyone watching that womanhood is a bad state to be in? You haven't transitioned or done anything drastic, so how bad do you actually feel about these things? This is perhaps a cruel question, but one worth asking
It's impossible to actually compare these things
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Can you chapter 5 hater faggots invent a new word for your bullshit so I can filter it? I don't want to read your inferiority every day. You got filtered and you will hate the next chapter too. Stop talking about it and go masturbate pathetically in the corner where you belong
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I drew Nazi Chara with Japanese Imperialist Frisk.
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>574119063
reddit and performative
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>>574119063
Eh



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