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shaman nerfs inc Edition

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>>573478685

>Decklists
https://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck lists
https://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)
https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta report
https://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch notes
https://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard & wild decks

>Deck Trackers & Statistics
https://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck tracker
https://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck tracker
https://heartharena.com/ – arena helper
https://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper

>Misc.
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24276664/break-the-rules-in-escape-from-violet-hold-hearthstone-s-next-expansion - new expansion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCfueeQ5-MI [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] - latest balance patch dev talk
https://playhearthstone.com/ – official website
https://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wiki
https://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournaments
https://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker

>Helpful Links
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex's article on gaming mentality
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/the-comprehensive-escape-from-violet-hold-preview/ - violet hold card review
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>>574107006
Partners Violet Hold ended being not that good but... Worry not because September is coming, Blizzcon is coming and we will finally get the Monk announcement!!! Hearthstone will be saved, remember Panda time is coming and will be GREAT!!!
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I'm from the future, here are the nerfs.
Nerfs

Mug's Power to first minion costs (1) less
Lotus Troublemaker to minions only
Jade Guardians to 4 mana
Quel'dorei Fletcher to 1/2
Warptooth to 3/2

Buffs
DH weapon to 3 mana
Jailhouse 4 mana 4/4

That's it enjoyyyy
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say something nice about this meta
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>>574107817
no diapers
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>>574107817
Cemented
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>>574107817
It's weird how whiny Priest players are when the class isn't even particularly bad right now. You basically cannot ever hope to beat Priest through the board because it has got to a point where it just has so many board clears, so much healing, so much everything your only hope is to kill it from 30 health.
You also can't ever grind down priest because it has infinite card generation.
Like, the winrate is not good but it's such an unhealthy class at this moment in time. You'd basically need to redesign half its set to have something susceptible of being balanced..
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>>574107817
I'm fine with them nerfing board clears but how do you keep shit like nozdormu and 4 mana 5/8 elusive in the game? Just compare the available removal to those stat lines.
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>>574107817
>DH got yeeted out of the game
K E K
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>>574107817
>56%wr with an almost 23% playrate
rogue monkeys will tell you this is not a problem and that they're not even a tier one deck
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>>574108463
>all ranks
irrelevant. that being said: fuck vanessa
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>>574107817
It's weird how whiny Rogue players are when the class isn't even particularly bad right now. You basically cannot ever hope to beat Rogue through the board because it has got to a point where it just has so many board clears, so much healing, so much everything your only hope is to kill it from 30 health.
You also can't ever grind down rogue because it has infinite card generation.
Like, the winrate is not good but it's such an unhealthy class at this moment in time. You'd basically need to redesign half its set to have something susceptible of being balanced..
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>>574108221
really funny how undeserved their nerf was to location just like the nerf to warlock quest
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>>574107817
why did token druid and end of turn paladin fall off so hard?
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>>574108939
we MUST kill every good card. zeddy demands it!
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logosh is fucking FUN
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When is Warptooth getting raped?
When is monke getting raped?
When is Mug getting raped?
Why isn’t Cora doing anything about this shit ass meta?
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>>574109509
but is it GOOD?
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>>574107817
How can this devs be so incompetent? Is this the thing you obtain when you give Aggrotrannies and Zeddy the keys?
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>>574107817
>priest completely dead
>dk trapped with suboptimal aggro
>dh literally nonexistent
what the fuck?
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Don't you just fucking love when the game decides that you aren't allowed to win. Fucking turn 3 coin Mug'Zee into Ascendance and I clawed my way back to a decent board only for him to pull out draw 2 and securitybot.
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>>574110761
What's wrong with the meta, from the numbers? Every class but priest is represented and has a 50+% winrate deck. Ignore Warlock and Mage and they have two or more decks. Meta looks healthy, robust, and competitive.
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>>574110376
it's ok when you aren't queuing into shaman
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the meta would be better if they balanced according to us and not reddit
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The meta would be good if they didn’t take so fucking long to balance
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This meta is actually good because controltrannies are extinct
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>>574115394
so you admit that control is dead?
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>>574108087
Priest & Druids are the biggest NIGGERS
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This meta is actually good because combotrannies are extinct
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>>574108087
Hunter & Rogues are the biggest NIGGERS
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>>574115882
uhm your aggamaggan bro?
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blogpost status?
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>>574107817
it's fast.
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>>574107817
>say something nice
I'm glad Mug and Zee Shaman exist
that's it
that's all the good I can say about it
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>rarran giving up on streaming hearthstone for the day after only an hour and a half
lmao. this expansion sucks so fucking bad.
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>>574119043
cemented
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forsen status?
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>>574120442
still no 12 wins
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>>574115394
>>574115882
>Only aggro and Midrange are allowed to exist
You (and Zedddy) should burn for the sake of this game.
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>>574120515
>check his stream
>he is trading with hunter
holy fuck 12 wins never
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>>574122836
supposedly hes getting stream sniped a lot as well lmao
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>>574120442
>>574120515
>>574122836
>>574122913
forsen is love, forsen is life
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>>574120442
>forsen status?
Garona Half
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>>574107817
tripwire go brrr
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was infuse and manathirst a good mechanic when they got added? did people like them?
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>>574115564
control is boring and wastes everyones time
win or concede by turn 6 is the only way
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i play hostage druid and hostage priest and rope every turn
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Did anyone manage to get some legendary commons from this generous gift?
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>wednesday
>still no blofpost
its fucking grim and cemented
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FORSEN. IS. PISSED.
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>>574131494
it's over
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>>574132053
who cares
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>people are just cheating on ladder now
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>>574128989
10 dust DAMN
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>>574133387
how???
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>get all kinds of packs for playing just a few matches today
>people whine because they get 2 commons
bitches lol
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>>574133754
By playing cards ofcourse
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>>574133387
>>574133754
Did he discover an extra one?
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>>574134082
yeah right in time for turn 4 blowout
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I miss not preordering for the signature Vanessa

I did not realize every card she generates is a signature. What value
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>>574133754
>>574134082
Shadowflame Suffusion
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>>574132053
Every game he plays is versus a sniper of bot.
Otherwise he would get the 12 wins already.
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>>574136416
He can delay his stream. is he retarded?
fucking moron and his stuck in platinum retarded fans lol
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Dark Gift is the worst mechanic in the game.
I don't care what you say.
It just is.
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>>574137529
I agree but add imbue too.
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you now remember imbue DK
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This fucker could be 2 mana and it would probably still not be good enough.
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>>574107817
Looks nice. I'm reinstalling
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i just want to play dh bros... why they killed the class?
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>>574145626
green man bad
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>>574133387
now you see it
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>>574145626
looking at the cards they got, it feels like there was an internal dispute between which of the two major archtypes (void soul and no deck) was going to be the main feature for the set and they landed on the worst of both worlds:, no deck got their engine in the legendary slot but the epic payoffs are hilariously underpowered, void soul was designed with a good payoff in mind but the engine to get there is super slow

in other words: the dh set is incomplete, they're only going to bother finishing it when the class set shows up in september, probably focused on no deck with one or two void soul cards to speed up the archtype
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>>574125410
they were extremely whatever, likely would have been ignored if it wasn't for Denathrius and Astalor
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>>574150150
Hell how embarrassing is literally the same Mage/Warlock situation, archetypes without actual necessary support how horrible
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>>574150150
DH will be saved by class sets copium
also keep scythe at 4 but give it lifesteal or else buff it to 3 mana
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tfw still no blogpost
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>>574154308
the real blogpost is in our hearts
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>play warlock legendary card
>play godfrey in casual
>doesn't count
k
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>>574156904
lol. lmao.
it only counts in ranked standard. DUH
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day 3456 of fighting hearthstone beelzebub every game
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raped rigged niggergame
he ended up his last turn with 4 taunts and on 13 life btw and i not only had enough damage (with niri) to kill him outright, but i generated 2 beasts and THEY BOTH HAD RUSH
again, raped rigged niggergame, algo is real
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>>574158657
>hunter complaining
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FAGGOT!
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>>574158940
>nooo you need to heckin be happychungus when algo rigs your games if you win!!!
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I wonder if prepare will ever be good. Meaning, I wonder if the meta will ever slow down to the point where you can skip turn 4 to play a 10 mana on turn 5. We should have been in the sweet spot where there's not enough removal to make such a thing warranted, but we're not, because if even if the devs have decide to keep the power level down, the ladder is still dominated by last year's decks.
I guess I don't know where I was going with it, I was looking at >>574150150 and tried to imagine a world where anyone would play
Nathrezim or even tras'tath into Warrior or Hunter
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>>574157432
would have been cool if they said that oh well i'm almost done with the questline anyways
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>>574159132
games routinely end on turn 6 (even my rafaam warlock games end on like turn 8) so anything slower than "put your opponent at 12hp turn 4" is unplayable by design
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>>574158657
btw for RETARDS who don't understand what's wrong with my image
>TURN 1 NIGGER + HERO POWER
>TURN 2 SHOVEL + DRAW + HERO POWER + ATTACK
>TURN 3 ARCANE TRIPWIRE FOR 5 TO FACE + ATTACK AGAIN + DRAWS ARCANE TRIPWIRE OFF THE SHOVEL FOR 5 TO FACE + HERO POWER
You have now taken 2+4+14 damage on turn 1, 2, 3 respectively
10 health turn 3 shake my FUARKING hand NIGGER, this game is so fucking shit
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>>574159919
you sound unhinged
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>>574160178
Blow it out your ass nigga
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>>574160249
unhinged and brown actually
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>>574160324
Are you paid hearthstone PR ?
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>>574160439
no, are you offering?
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>>574159082
>>574159919
lol stupid brown hunter faggot
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>>574162348
>win = good, goy! engage more!
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>not even a tease of a blogpost

it's over..
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What are the best ways to clone Captured Archmage, bat mask?
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>>574150150
How have you people not cottoned on yet that Blizz does this on purpose to some sets every expansion as "seed" archetypes to feed it cards later on.

It encourages experimenting (and failing) now, and encourages people to go back and craft cards from older sets when broken support gets added later.
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>>574168301
Paladin Shit
if you want batmask otk Maiev/Redcard + Drake better combo
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>>574154308
they dont know how to fix it..... Should visit at least /hsg/ or re...it
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>>574150150
Truth is DH void set is balanced
if you remove bullshit discover face and otk noncence from meta DH suddenly is good midrange deck
>goog early game
>can ramp into late game
>good PREPARE finisher Big demon (opponent cant play minions but you can play because they spells actually)
>actual balanced refill via Deathrattle demons
>Has ALL IN card
But yeah this deck like 2014 deck in 2026 meta
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>>574168467
>cottoned on
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>>574169738
You are being culturally enriched
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>>574168987
I truly do not understand this niggermeta that we have of niggercards building a board for free or OTKing the opponent turn 4
It genuinely feels malicious
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Saying it again as long as it's true. Putting all the Freeze + Armor mage shit back in arena is the height of retardation.
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>no imbue
>no fabled
why this deck is so popular ?
>its pure scam
ah sorry i forgot what year
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>>574172835
There's literally no reason not to run Imbue in priest. You get a 2 mana heal and a 3 mana stall which are independently good and on top of that replace your shitty hero power.
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>>574172835
next game
guess how i died ? monkey with 10 damage + discovered deios LMAo
HOLY SHIT LITERALLY CHEATING
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ONE FUCKING CARD
>turn 6 full hp opponent literally lost
>turn 8 you dead
are they literally retards ? blogpost now
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the waiting game is nearly over bros...
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Cora’s bras are too thick. I’ve searched every HS interview and news piece she’s done and I can’t find a single time when her nipples poke through her top. I know at least one of these venues has got to be cold, so I can only assume she’s wearing thick ass bras that keep her pups suppressed.
Oh and crucify that stupid fucking denathrius monkey
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I don't play hearthstone anymore but i loved seeing the legendaries play sounds for the new expansions and the guy who always uploaded them to youtube hasn't done it for 2 expansions now :(
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>>574180008
game's dying
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wild has been the most fun ive had for a while.
lots of warlocks everywhere, perfect prey for Warptooth my beloved
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>>574180352
Warlock is the natural prey of Armour Diaper warrior
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Is the shitty darkmoon gacha the only way to get the Maiev skins or will they pop back in the shop?
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they need to make hearthstone more like a mmo
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>>574180853
>Is the shitty darkmoon gacha the only way to get the Maiev skins
yes
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>>574180493
yes warrior most fun in the game rn. standard lo gash is great too.

hope i can pull warptooth or hogger signatures
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>got hard stuck on heroic dalaran heist months ago
>give it another shot
>get Vanessa in my random deck
>curbstomp every boss
You cant tell me she isnt busted
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>>574137529
>discover the exact minion you need
>but make it op sometimes
Thrilling.
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>>574159919
>my unskilled free win deck LOST???
CURSE YOU CORA
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>>574185330
Nigga... I'm the hunter
I WON
That's the entire problem
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>>574188041
Well I'd expect that from that position. Hunter is retard class for retards and we've accepted that a long ago.
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Yall told me wild was cheap
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No blog post
No nerfs
No buffs
Game is perfect
Devs have no clue what to do
We are cemented
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>>574192154
i dont think theres anything that needs a nerf. game feels fine theres nothing you just auto lose and this is still only like 2nd week of the new xpac
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what should happen for dk to be, not good, but at least "playable" again?
>inb4 suboptimal aggro
yeah fuck that, i mean a real deck.
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>>574195113
for games to not be over by turn 3
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>>574192154
There is a hot patch today, playoffs invitees have recieved the notes in advance but not allowed to share, it's bug fixes, most notably shaman stuff (zee slagclaw, quest mug) and also the warloc wont count toward the 2 bit rogue spells
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>>574196778
Quest zee i mean
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>>574196778
>the warloc wont count toward the 2 bit rogue spells
Were people abusing warloc somehow?
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>>574197476
Not really abuse, you got 1 more proc when playing a shitty 1/1 and taking 2 damage for it, sure you get the 8 drops earlier but i dont think the list has better winrate than the one that runs foxy/flashback instead of murloc package. You probably should run the 2/3 draw murloc tho because it's really good in that list regardless.
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ANSWER ME, JIA ANON
WHAT DOES HEARTHSTONE NEED?
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Not going to lie starting to get a little bit bored of instalosing every game where Rogue prepares a card before turn 4.
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Rogue is allowed to do 30 damage from hand turn 5 for 4 mana, yes this is balanced and fun and interactive :)
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GUYS HEAR ME OUT
WHAT IF WE REPRINT PATCHES
BUT IT'S 2 3/3 CHARGERS INSTEAD OF A 1/1 LOL
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>streamer complains about his opp playing a broken class
>plays another broken class with basically the same wr
were these people always this annoying?
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Seriously i want Monk just for Rogue to fucking burn in hell for at least a year
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pure paladin is an enjoyable deck. put some stats on the board, cheat out some mana, simple as
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>>574200291
Can't scam so it will remain a tier 2 deck at best.
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>>574200410
>the deck that scams mana with a bunch of 2/2s who give you cheaper cards... can't scam
?
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>>574200410
judgment gives it scam potential but makes your matchup vs other decks worse
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>>574200593
Compare it to shaman, warrior or rogue.
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So every victory in nowadays HS is just a player scamming another?
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>>574200593
Playing a 2/2 for a card is pretty honest when it comes to current day Hearthstone
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>>574200943
Yes, because the viable decks are extremely limited.
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>>574200943
Pretty much, there's no way to get back on board so if anyone manages to scam the game's over. Even priest is better than people think because it can scam with Soothsayer.
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>>574200943
you see they removed all control tools except from decks that die to MEGAAGGRO and created MEGAAGGRO by giving aggro insane damage + card draw + board clear
So that leaves aggro, or scam. No other way to play
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>>574200943
this is what giving the keys to aggrotards and zeddy makes to a game: turn a tactical strategic tcg into "i cheat better than you" lol
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They should make some sort of study on the way this has mindcontrolled Priest players for like the past year and a half.
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What happened to fat fuck zeddyposter?
What happened to Coraposter?
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>>574201728
I'm playing priest and it's really insane the amount of mega imbue guys I meet in the mirror
They imbue 50 times and I get my otk in hand and they die (I run imbue too because its broken but its not the only thing my deck does)
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>>574201738
dead game dead general
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This nigga with ascendance is filthy
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>>574201938
>7 unplayable classes
We always need a patch within 2 weeks of a new launch why do they keep making this mistake?
>Nerf DH only playable architype
>Give it zero new cards
There's literally not enough cards for a full DH deck right now
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>>574201842
Imbue was made in a lab to be irresistible to Priest players (which all suffer from the Kibler gene)
You get to PRESS the button and you GET a card and it is always a PLAYABLE card and sometimes it is the PERFECT ANSWER and you NEVER RUN out of cards? Oh my fucking god ambatu
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>>574202159
>>7 unplayable classes
The devs have literally said they want this
They have been here before and said the meta was in a good place, literally
This is intentional
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>"Oh god oh fuck this meta is unbearable"
Reminder Druid is the canary in the coal mine. Any meta with no Druid decks = bad meta.
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>>574201938
>Demon Hunter killed for good
>Rogue, Warrior, Shaman even Druid still kicking asses
CORAAAAAAAAA
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>>574201938
The preferential treatment Horde aligned classes get in this game is insane lmao
Shaman, Warrior, Hunter just get god tier cards expansion after expansion
Mage gets if you spent 6 mana a previous turn AND play 3 spells then you summon 2 8-drops.
Rogue gets uhhh here's 2 free 8-drops. We'll even give them to you so you can use battlecries :)
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>>574200943
Against priest you literally have to otk them because they get infinite heals
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does anyone know where you can find the free firestone premium program?
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>>574201938
>zeddy outlived the fat fuck zeddyposter
Embarrassing!



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