shaman nerfs inc EditionPrevious Thread>>573478685 >Decklistshttps://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck listshttps://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta reporthttps://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch noteshttps://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard & wild decks>Deck Trackers & Statisticshttps://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck trackerhttps://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck trackerhttps://heartharena.com/ – arena helperhttps://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper>Misc.https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24276664/break-the-rules-in-escape-from-violet-hold-hearthstone-s-next-expansion - new expansionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCfueeQ5-MI [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] - latest balance patch dev talkhttps://playhearthstone.com/ – official websitehttps://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wikihttps://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournamentshttps://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker>Helpful Linkshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex's article on gaming mentalityhttps://www.vicioussyndicate.com/the-comprehensive-escape-from-violet-hold-preview/ - violet hold card review
>>574107006Partners Violet Hold ended being not that good but... Worry not because September is coming, Blizzcon is coming and we will finally get the Monk announcement!!! Hearthstone will be saved, remember Panda time is coming and will be GREAT!!!
I'm from the future, here are the nerfs.NerfsMug's Power to first minion costs (1) lessLotus Troublemaker to minions onlyJade Guardians to 4 manaQuel'dorei Fletcher to 1/2Warptooth to 3/2BuffsDH weapon to 3 manaJailhouse 4 mana 4/4That's it enjoyyyy
say something nice about this meta
>>574107817no diapers
>>574107817Cemented
>>574107817It's weird how whiny Priest players are when the class isn't even particularly bad right now. You basically cannot ever hope to beat Priest through the board because it has got to a point where it just has so many board clears, so much healing, so much everything your only hope is to kill it from 30 health.You also can't ever grind down priest because it has infinite card generation.Like, the winrate is not good but it's such an unhealthy class at this moment in time. You'd basically need to redesign half its set to have something susceptible of being balanced..
>>574107817I'm fine with them nerfing board clears but how do you keep shit like nozdormu and 4 mana 5/8 elusive in the game? Just compare the available removal to those stat lines.
>>574107817>DH got yeeted out of the gameK E K
>>574107817>56%wr with an almost 23% playraterogue monkeys will tell you this is not a problem and that they're not even a tier one deck
>>574108463>all ranksirrelevant. that being said: fuck vanessa
>>574107817It's weird how whiny Rogue players are when the class isn't even particularly bad right now. You basically cannot ever hope to beat Rogue through the board because it has got to a point where it just has so many board clears, so much healing, so much everything your only hope is to kill it from 30 health.You also can't ever grind down rogue because it has infinite card generation.Like, the winrate is not good but it's such an unhealthy class at this moment in time. You'd basically need to redesign half its set to have something susceptible of being balanced..
>>574108221really funny how undeserved their nerf was to location just like the nerf to warlock quest
>>574107817why did token druid and end of turn paladin fall off so hard?
>>574108939we MUST kill every good card. zeddy demands it!
logosh is fucking FUN
When is Warptooth getting raped? When is monke getting raped?When is Mug getting raped?Why isn’t Cora doing anything about this shit ass meta?
>>574109509but is it GOOD?
>>574107817How can this devs be so incompetent? Is this the thing you obtain when you give Aggrotrannies and Zeddy the keys?
>>574107817>priest completely dead>dk trapped with suboptimal aggro>dh literally nonexistentwhat the fuck?
Don't you just fucking love when the game decides that you aren't allowed to win. Fucking turn 3 coin Mug'Zee into Ascendance and I clawed my way back to a decent board only for him to pull out draw 2 and securitybot.
>>574110761What's wrong with the meta, from the numbers? Every class but priest is represented and has a 50+% winrate deck. Ignore Warlock and Mage and they have two or more decks. Meta looks healthy, robust, and competitive.
>>574110376it's ok when you aren't queuing into shaman
the meta would be better if they balanced according to us and not reddit
The meta would be good if they didn’t take so fucking long to balance
This meta is actually good because controltrannies are extinct
>>574115394so you admit that control is dead?
>>574108087Priest & Druids are the biggest NIGGERS
This meta is actually good because combotrannies are extinct
>>574108087Hunter & Rogues are the biggest NIGGERS
>>574115882uhm your aggamaggan bro?
blogpost status?
>>574107817it's fast.
>>574107817>say something niceI'm glad Mug and Zee Shaman existthat's itthat's all the good I can say about it
>rarran giving up on streaming hearthstone for the day after only an hour and a half lmao. this expansion sucks so fucking bad.
>>574119043cemented
forsen status?
>>574120442still no 12 wins
>>574115394>>574115882>Only aggro and Midrange are allowed to existYou (and Zedddy) should burn for the sake of this game.
>>574120515>check his stream>he is trading with hunterholy fuck 12 wins never
>>574122836supposedly hes getting stream sniped a lot as well lmao
>>574120442>>574120515>>574122836>>574122913forsen is love, forsen is life
>>574120442>forsen status?Garona Half
>>574107817tripwire go brrr
was infuse and manathirst a good mechanic when they got added? did people like them?
>>574115564control is boring and wastes everyones timewin or concede by turn 6 is the only way
i play hostage druid and hostage priest and rope every turn
Did anyone manage to get some legendary commons from this generous gift?
>wednesday>still no blofpostits fucking grim and cemented
FORSEN. IS. PISSED.
>>574131494it's over
>>574132053who cares
>people are just cheating on ladder now
>>57412898910 dust DAMN
>>574133387how???
>get all kinds of packs for playing just a few matches today>people whine because they get 2 commonsbitches lol
>>574133754By playing cards ofcourse
>>574133387>>574133754Did he discover an extra one?
>>574134082yeah right in time for turn 4 blowout
I miss not preordering for the signature VanessaI did not realize every card she generates is a signature. What value
>>574133754>>574134082Shadowflame Suffusion
>>574132053Every game he plays is versus a sniper of bot.Otherwise he would get the 12 wins already.
>>574136416He can delay his stream. is he retarded?fucking moron and his stuck in platinum retarded fans lol
Dark Gift is the worst mechanic in the game.I don't care what you say.It just is.
>>574137529I agree but add imbue too.
you now remember imbue DK
This fucker could be 2 mana and it would probably still not be good enough.
>>574107817Looks nice. I'm reinstalling
i just want to play dh bros... why they killed the class?
>>574145626green man bad
>>574133387now you see it
>>574145626looking at the cards they got, it feels like there was an internal dispute between which of the two major archtypes (void soul and no deck) was going to be the main feature for the set and they landed on the worst of both worlds:, no deck got their engine in the legendary slot but the epic payoffs are hilariously underpowered, void soul was designed with a good payoff in mind but the engine to get there is super slowin other words: the dh set is incomplete, they're only going to bother finishing it when the class set shows up in september, probably focused on no deck with one or two void soul cards to speed up the archtype
>>574125410they were extremely whatever, likely would have been ignored if it wasn't for Denathrius and Astalor
>>574150150Hell how embarrassing is literally the same Mage/Warlock situation, archetypes without actual necessary support how horrible
>>574150150DH will be saved by class sets copium also keep scythe at 4 but give it lifesteal or else buff it to 3 mana
tfw still no blogpost
>>574154308the real blogpost is in our hearts
>play warlock legendary card>play godfrey in casual>doesn't count k
>>574156904lol. lmao. it only counts in ranked standard. DUH
day 3456 of fighting hearthstone beelzebub every game
raped rigged niggergamehe ended up his last turn with 4 taunts and on 13 life btw and i not only had enough damage (with niri) to kill him outright, but i generated 2 beasts and THEY BOTH HAD RUSHagain, raped rigged niggergame, algo is real
>>574158657>hunter complainingLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFAGGOT!
>>574158940>nooo you need to heckin be happychungus when algo rigs your games if you win!!!
I wonder if prepare will ever be good. Meaning, I wonder if the meta will ever slow down to the point where you can skip turn 4 to play a 10 mana on turn 5. We should have been in the sweet spot where there's not enough removal to make such a thing warranted, but we're not, because if even if the devs have decide to keep the power level down, the ladder is still dominated by last year's decks.I guess I don't know where I was going with it, I was looking at >>574150150 and tried to imagine a world where anyone would play Nathrezim or even tras'tath into Warrior or Hunter
>>574157432would have been cool if they said that oh well i'm almost done with the questline anyways
>>574159132games routinely end on turn 6 (even my rafaam warlock games end on like turn 8) so anything slower than "put your opponent at 12hp turn 4" is unplayable by design
>>574158657btw for RETARDS who don't understand what's wrong with my image>TURN 1 NIGGER + HERO POWER>TURN 2 SHOVEL + DRAW + HERO POWER + ATTACK>TURN 3 ARCANE TRIPWIRE FOR 5 TO FACE + ATTACK AGAIN + DRAWS ARCANE TRIPWIRE OFF THE SHOVEL FOR 5 TO FACE + HERO POWERYou have now taken 2+4+14 damage on turn 1, 2, 3 respectively10 health turn 3 shake my FUARKING hand NIGGER, this game is so fucking shit
>>574159919you sound unhinged
>>574160178Blow it out your ass nigga
>>574160249unhinged and brown actually
>>574160324Are you paid hearthstone PR ?
>>574160439no, are you offering?
>>574159082>>574159919lol stupid brown hunter faggot
>>574162348>win = good, goy! engage more!
>not even a tease of a blogpost it's over..
What are the best ways to clone Captured Archmage, bat mask?
>>574150150How have you people not cottoned on yet that Blizz does this on purpose to some sets every expansion as "seed" archetypes to feed it cards later on. It encourages experimenting (and failing) now, and encourages people to go back and craft cards from older sets when broken support gets added later.
>>574168301Paladin Shit if you want batmask otk Maiev/Redcard + Drake better combo
>>574154308they dont know how to fix it..... Should visit at least /hsg/ or re...it
>>574150150Truth is DH void set is balancedif you remove bullshit discover face and otk noncence from meta DH suddenly is good midrange deck>goog early game>can ramp into late game>good PREPARE finisher Big demon (opponent cant play minions but you can play because they spells actually)>actual balanced refill via Deathrattle demons>Has ALL IN cardBut yeah this deck like 2014 deck in 2026 meta
>>574168467>cottoned on
>>574169738You are being culturally enriched
>>574168987I truly do not understand this niggermeta that we have of niggercards building a board for free or OTKing the opponent turn 4It genuinely feels malicious
Saying it again as long as it's true. Putting all the Freeze + Armor mage shit back in arena is the height of retardation.
>no imbue>no fabledwhy this deck is so popular ?>its pure scamah sorry i forgot what year
>>574172835There's literally no reason not to run Imbue in priest. You get a 2 mana heal and a 3 mana stall which are independently good and on top of that replace your shitty hero power.
>>574172835next gameguess how i died ? monkey with 10 damage + discovered deios LMAoHOLY SHIT LITERALLY CHEATING
ONE FUCKING CARD >turn 6 full hp opponent literally lost>turn 8 you deadare they literally retards ? blogpost now
the waiting game is nearly over bros...
Cora’s bras are too thick. I’ve searched every HS interview and news piece she’s done and I can’t find a single time when her nipples poke through her top. I know at least one of these venues has got to be cold, so I can only assume she’s wearing thick ass bras that keep her pups suppressed.Oh and crucify that stupid fucking denathrius monkey
I don't play hearthstone anymore but i loved seeing the legendaries play sounds for the new expansions and the guy who always uploaded them to youtube hasn't done it for 2 expansions now :(
>>574180008game's dying
wild has been the most fun ive had for a while.lots of warlocks everywhere, perfect prey for Warptooth my beloved
>>574180352Warlock is the natural prey of Armour Diaper warrior
Is the shitty darkmoon gacha the only way to get the Maiev skins or will they pop back in the shop?
they need to make hearthstone more like a mmo
>>574180853>Is the shitty darkmoon gacha the only way to get the Maiev skinsyes
>>574180493yes warrior most fun in the game rn. standard lo gash is great too.hope i can pull warptooth or hogger signatures
>got hard stuck on heroic dalaran heist months ago>give it another shot>get Vanessa in my random deck>curbstomp every bossYou cant tell me she isnt busted
>>574137529>discover the exact minion you need>but make it op sometimesThrilling.
>>574159919>my unskilled free win deck LOST???CURSE YOU CORA
>>574185330Nigga... I'm the hunterI WONThat's the entire problem
>>574188041Well I'd expect that from that position. Hunter is retard class for retards and we've accepted that a long ago.
Yall told me wild was cheap
No blog postNo nerfsNo buffsGame is perfectDevs have no clue what to doWe are cemented
>>574192154i dont think theres anything that needs a nerf. game feels fine theres nothing you just auto lose and this is still only like 2nd week of the new xpac
what should happen for dk to be, not good, but at least "playable" again?>inb4 suboptimal aggroyeah fuck that, i mean a real deck.
>>574195113for games to not be over by turn 3
>>574192154There is a hot patch today, playoffs invitees have recieved the notes in advance but not allowed to share, it's bug fixes, most notably shaman stuff (zee slagclaw, quest mug) and also the warloc wont count toward the 2 bit rogue spells
>>574196778Quest zee i mean
>>574196778>the warloc wont count toward the 2 bit rogue spellsWere people abusing warloc somehow?
>>574197476Not really abuse, you got 1 more proc when playing a shitty 1/1 and taking 2 damage for it, sure you get the 8 drops earlier but i dont think the list has better winrate than the one that runs foxy/flashback instead of murloc package. You probably should run the 2/3 draw murloc tho because it's really good in that list regardless.
ANSWER ME, JIA ANONWHAT DOES HEARTHSTONE NEED?
Not going to lie starting to get a little bit bored of instalosing every game where Rogue prepares a card before turn 4.
Rogue is allowed to do 30 damage from hand turn 5 for 4 mana, yes this is balanced and fun and interactive :)
GUYS HEAR ME OUTWHAT IF WE REPRINT PATCHESBUT IT'S 2 3/3 CHARGERS INSTEAD OF A 1/1 LOL
>streamer complains about his opp playing a broken class>plays another broken class with basically the same wrwere these people always this annoying?
Seriously i want Monk just for Rogue to fucking burn in hell for at least a year
pure paladin is an enjoyable deck. put some stats on the board, cheat out some mana, simple as
>>574200291Can't scam so it will remain a tier 2 deck at best.
>>574200410>the deck that scams mana with a bunch of 2/2s who give you cheaper cards... can't scam?
>>574200410judgment gives it scam potential but makes your matchup vs other decks worse
>>574200593Compare it to shaman, warrior or rogue.
So every victory in nowadays HS is just a player scamming another?
>>574200593Playing a 2/2 for a card is pretty honest when it comes to current day Hearthstone
>>574200943Yes, because the viable decks are extremely limited.
>>574200943Pretty much, there's no way to get back on board so if anyone manages to scam the game's over. Even priest is better than people think because it can scam with Soothsayer.
>>574200943you see they removed all control tools except from decks that die to MEGAAGGRO and created MEGAAGGRO by giving aggro insane damage + card draw + board clearSo that leaves aggro, or scam. No other way to play
>>574200943this is what giving the keys to aggrotards and zeddy makes to a game: turn a tactical strategic tcg into "i cheat better than you" lol
They should make some sort of study on the way this has mindcontrolled Priest players for like the past year and a half.
What happened to fat fuck zeddyposter?What happened to Coraposter?
>>574201728I'm playing priest and it's really insane the amount of mega imbue guys I meet in the mirrorThey imbue 50 times and I get my otk in hand and they die (I run imbue too because its broken but its not the only thing my deck does)
>>574201738dead game dead general
This nigga with ascendance is filthy
>>574201938>7 unplayable classes We always need a patch within 2 weeks of a new launch why do they keep making this mistake?>Nerf DH only playable architype >Give it zero new cardsThere's literally not enough cards for a full DH deck right now
>>574201842Imbue was made in a lab to be irresistible to Priest players (which all suffer from the Kibler gene)You get to PRESS the button and you GET a card and it is always a PLAYABLE card and sometimes it is the PERFECT ANSWER and you NEVER RUN out of cards? Oh my fucking god ambatu
>>574202159>>7 unplayable classesThe devs have literally said they want thisThey have been here before and said the meta was in a good place, literallyThis is intentional
>"Oh god oh fuck this meta is unbearable"Reminder Druid is the canary in the coal mine. Any meta with no Druid decks = bad meta.
>>574201938>Demon Hunter killed for good>Rogue, Warrior, Shaman even Druid still kicking assesCORAAAAAAAAA
>>574201938The preferential treatment Horde aligned classes get in this game is insane lmaoShaman, Warrior, Hunter just get god tier cards expansion after expansionMage gets if you spent 6 mana a previous turn AND play 3 spells then you summon 2 8-drops.Rogue gets uhhh here's 2 free 8-drops. We'll even give them to you so you can use battlecries :)
>>574200943Against priest you literally have to otk them because they get infinite heals
does anyone know where you can find the free firestone premium program?
>>574201938>zeddy outlived the fat fuck zeddyposterEmbarrassing!
>>574202091>9 mana 2 card combo (MUST have summoned a minion with a tribe last turn to work)>Result is 2x random 6 drops that summon 2x 3/4s on deathDoesnt seem that nuttySpending 9 mana and two cards with some light setup should be looking to close out the game with that play.
>>574202559truth nuke
>>574206967except you played the double 3/4 on turn 3 and follow it up with ascendance
Should I get the Maiev duo or next months demon hunter slut?
>>574207321Is there a reliable way to generate the dinosaur with the no minions deck?
>>574207942very common find off mountain map, and trivial to activate kindred since you generate so many little elemental shitters
>>574207942not really, it's only in the map pool which also has every other typed minion in the game
WHO'S THAT POKEMON
>>574208590iiiiit's.... the worst legendary of this expansion
I don’t mind aggro, but the scam shit is genuinely getting boring and tiresome, the whole troublemaker or warptooth or mug highrolls, it’s so fucking tiresome
>>574208951what happens when you "lower the powerlevel"
>>574209024>6/6 patches is lowering the powerlevelthis is what /hsg/dittors actually believe
>>574209187that was the point. they lowered the overall powerlevel so the good cards are even more insane now
>>574208750Why is she so overstatted for a net positive effect on a relatively cheap mana cost? Am I misunderstanding something? Sending your deck to the void in practice just means you get 2x draws instead of 1x per turn and your deck never runs out or something?
>>574209235She removes your deck. As in, you start fatiguing immediately, and the payoff is... you play a 2 mana 6/6. It's a pathetically weak archetype, and not really one that can be fixed. She might as well be 400 dust.
>lost game vs highroll mug shaman>next game Barcode zee shaman afk and concede>im playing troll paladin literally meme deckthey really desperate want to mantain 50% wr
>>574209325>>574209235Oh I wasn't even correct, it's a 3 mana 6/6.The other """"payoff"""" is a 2 mana spell that does 2 damage and shuffles a random DH spell. Not even discounted or anything.This is how bad it is. DH had its VH cards split between 2 archetypes and they both turned out unplayable.
>game rigs matchup>still won because my opponent plays my deck like a shitterLMAO AZALINKEKS