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Inferno Delayed Edition

Previous slowburn: >>574211502

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/79FxaVBV

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/5777YtCb
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
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-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
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-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

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Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>574227054
AC machine broke
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TOTAL ROCKY VICTORY

KNIGHTFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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Are you ready for chapter 6 ? what loadout have you prepared and which flower items did you pick ?
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>>574227286
Specs FTW
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>zero deleted posts last thread
I take it you've *mostly* behaved. that's a good start. keep it up.
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>>574227074
Don't be sad be happy that we ever got have the experience and accept that things must change eventually
>make rude buster better
Honestly I think anything besides the the 10 TP reduction would make rude buster way too strong lmao
>>574226337
>>574226354
Reposting from end of last thread: If you truly believe this then you've really missed the point of all of this. There is no "game" in the context of that universe. Seeing the world as a game you can manipulate is not "enlightenment" in Undertale and Deltarune, it's mania. Jevil is objectively not free despite his own beliefs, he is quite literally coping with his situation by lying to himself.
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Post some Floradinns maybe?
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>waiting to find my utg wife so we can have a child together and post its photo under "Personal creations anchor" post
Any day now
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>>574227254
>the AC chapter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUcuHUvI1UI
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Look at this flower.
Look at this MAN.
LOOK AT HIM! LOOK!
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>>574227070
Hooman!
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>>574227286
Apron, hat and shoes. Even knowing now that the broken scarf has cracked stats I still thing the shoes will be worth it for segments where you want to pacify. No specs because I like TP
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>>574227481
Dude, your flower bum lost, get over it.
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>>574227286
i don't get hit so i picked yellow's hat for the stronger spells orange's gloves to make scythemare useful and sethspecs because it has a magic boost
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>>574227414
What efforts have you made to make that a reality? All creative endeavours require that you do your part, like practice and stuff
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>>574227286
aw yes a fellow commissioner of items. im glad the yellow hat finally lets Ralsei heal over 100 hp
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>>574227286
>uses pathetic stat ehancing armors
>not using exclusively TP-gain enhancing armors
uh oh buddy! looks like YOU'RE gonna be one TP short in every fight where it matters!
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>>574226979
wanting to? wrong way to look at it.
its just how things are, how things go.
>ralsei tree-theory
the fabled faggotree.
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>>574227626
Haha. Your fave is in love with mine.
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>>574227534
honestly BlueShoes seems better for a pacifist route with its magic and def stats, which makes the AquaKnife so weird because it seems to serve 0 purpose at all.
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Susie NEEDS the yellow hat to go along with her justice axe
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Someone post massive fat thighs thick Gaster
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>Doomer gets filtered by Ralsei Tree Theory
LMAO
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>>574227719
how do you feel about the love quadrangle anon?
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>>574227678
unrelated, but ralsei's heal is so awful compared to items because he isn't actually a cleric/white mage, he's a damage dealing spellcaster that is pretending/forcing himself to be a support character
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>>574227397
holy fucking shit saved that gif
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>>574227719
this will be the deciding factor in the ultimate ship
no one x no one
nobody gets laid
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Toby mades his most popular sexyman yet the ultimate Asgore simp as karmic retribution for all the cuck jokes you've made. How does that feel?
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>>574227719
I think it's a high likelyhood that they're endgame. Or them + some other additions to the polycule.
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>>574227691
it's fine my fights will take more turns and I'll get to see the super secret dialogue that toby wrote just for me
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Polyamory suuuuuuuuuuucks. It's so emotionally hollow.
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>>574227691
>looks at all my TP gaining items in storage
sure thing buddy
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>>574227961
It would be fucking bold of Toby to try and add someone new to the polycule in the second to last chapter of the game.
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>>574227379
>There is no "game" in the context of that universe
It's quite likely that there is tho'.
Asgore having a higher knowledge make him obsessed and ruin his relationship but he was right.
This is not an antischizo game but a schizo responsibly game.
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>>574228004
>a
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>>574227873
>>574228127
We just need Ralsei and Noelle to have an actual on-screen conversation and we'll be off to the races.
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>>574227373
The shitter has a 4chan pass which is why it took so many hours for him to get wiped yesterday
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>>574228004
Where is Rouxls cosplaying Meowth to complete the motto?
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>>574227104
Jevil isn't "enlightened," he's correct about the world being a game, but wrong about that making things meaningless. Play gives structure to the world and serves a critical role in human psychology precisely because it's meaningful. This is what Seam means when they say they might have found more purpose in their life if they had stuck with Jevil so they could keep playing with him. Jevil even says that his motivation for the fight is loneliness, the point of the Seam and Jevil arc is that playing with other people brings meaning to your life even if it otherwise seems meaningless.
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>>574227748
>honestly BlueShoes seems better for a pacifist route with its magic and def stats
It has really strong stats yeah and makes pacify way easier to utilize
>Aqua knife has no purpose
Yeah it kinda feels that way mechanically. I think he choice to make it a knife was too necessary to pass up on thematically and like the black knife and jingle blade, Noelle can equip it. It would be kinda crazy if it actually becomes useful because when you confront the knight they take the black shard back from you like Vergil taking the yamato from Nero
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>>574227663
who the fuck picks orange
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>>574228391
Everyone with fucking sense.
>hottest flower
>20%TP omni-spare
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>>574227891
let's hope this gets addressed in chapter 6 because to be fair sparing people has been the optimal path so far
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OrangeGOD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rat hatless goat
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>>574227609
*girl
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>>574228450
>hottest flower
Maybe if you're into bestiality
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>>574227961
This is advanced cope
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>>574228351
>Kris loses their hand holding the BlackShard to tightly when the knight takes it back from them
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>>574228047
you're a massive faggot though you have proven to have thin skin.
you have thrown hissy fits over even more banal things.

i mean, look at you: trying to be inflammatory by pulling me to your low level.
discussions with you tanked the bar of niveau so hard that its a limbo stick in hell with 2mm clearance and you still dance under it with grace.
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>>574228604
She looks like a beautiful, sexy human woman to me.
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>>574227397
theres alot
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One ending
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>>574228165
Why did Ferroll do that? Is he evil?
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>>574228450
I never pacify tho I really don't know if an omnispare is that good desu
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>all the hotfix patches in deltarune are written by a dev account named "g."
Surely this means nothing at all
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>>574228695
If that's the literal case then this game has been for total dogshit
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>>574228824
>I never pacify
because you SUCK. like, BAD. I bet you don't use S- or R-Action either.
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>>574228351
>and like the black knife and jingle blade, Noelle can equip it.
That got patched, she can still do Black Knife and Jingle Blade but not Aqua Knife
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>>574228838
Gaster Deniers shall be put to the cross and displayed for the world to see
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>>574228683
give me one reason this wouldnt work
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>>574228838
Goby Gox...
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>>574228101
ahh, the Phoenix Down ×99...
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>>574228996
darkness is pulled from the earth, fountains are letting darkness out from below ground. a suit like that wouldn't be able to hold a dark fountain because there's nowhere for it to pull darkness from
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>>574228683
>>574229037
>kris, susie, why are you dragging a pile of boxes on the back of trailer?
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>>574228205
with that in mind are we ever gonna get a chance where the characters use the player's name and speak to (you) directly? I'm hoping chapter 6 with carol or at the bare minimum 7 will give us the chance to feel more involved and not behind kris's face
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I got the Aqua Knife, Orange Gloves, and Blue Shoes because I wanted my friends Kris, Susie, and Ralsei to each get their own items
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>>574229079
he draws a cute ralsei but ever since i learned he also drew toriel jerking off infant asriel his stuff has given me the creeps
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JARU UPLOADED AN ALMOST 14 HOUR BLIND PLAYTHROUGH LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO
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I CAN'T FUCKING DRAW!
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>>574229160
Wrong reply lmao
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I got the Aqua Knife and will use it because the Knight is stupid and lame and I don't want to use any of its stinky shards
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if Ralsei decides he wants to be a girl will she grow a vagina and let Kris finally score or will Kris be forevercucked?
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>>574229037
Wombin'
Hey there, sexy~
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>>574228351
even tho you can equip it to noelle, the FreezeRing or ThornRing are much better suited for her.. and if we do end up being able to get the GildedRose, even in normal routes playthrough there would be a ring outclassing Aqua.. it's very strange how this is clearly the only flower completely unworth of being picked.
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>>574229110
just make fountain boots for him
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>>574229110
When will the fandom realize that there's a literal shadow mantle, as in the mantle of the earth is full of darkness?
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>>574229168
I don't think they had us enter our name for literally nothing but I'm not sure how much we're going to be directly involved in the ground level events of the game at this point.
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>>574229110
Pipe like a portable air conditioner
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>>574229296
Lucida motherfucker
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>>574229376
that, doesn't fix the issue?? if you made fountain boots for him he'd just, stand in place, are you saying you want him to like, pirates of the caribbean that shit and make a bunch of mini fountain holes all around town for him to step his boots over
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I CAN'T DRAW FUCKING!
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>>574229496
>THAT JUST WOULDNT WORK BECAUSE IT WOULDNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok chud
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>>574229441
Is this really what THE BOYS get up to?
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>>574229557
Lucida mothe-
Oh wait
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>>574229425
yeah..
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>>574227208
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>>574228878
I don't I'm a fucking chud that loves Kris too much to take away the only thing they are good at..
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>>574228996
Toby hates us.
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What if the only way for Ralsei to live in the light world was for him to receive a lightner's thick, stinky load on his mouth/ ass every 10 hours? How would Kris and Susie react to his news?
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>>574229365
The AquaKnife cannot be equipped to Noelle any more, Toby fucked up.
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>>574229606
I love these yellow fellows!
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>>574229613
Kris isn't even good at ACTing, a lot of the times it's more efficient to use S-action or R-action
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what if in the ralsei boss fight he gets sad and gives up if you die too many times
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>>574229613
Your attachments are holding you back from optimal gameplay, partner. THIS is why we need our vessel...
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>>574229390
during the seth portion of flowery's boss battle the healing words are known, (player name), and friend. so I'm hoping this means they're going to be relevant soon especially with the added lore drop. rolling for vessel in chapter 6
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>>574228185
>It's quite likely that there is tho'.
There is not. The game mechanics exist as diagetic functions of the universe and do not make the world a game because it "seems" like one. Flowey and Frisk and Kris almost certainly doesn't make the world any less real because they have the power to "undo" the cruelty they can enact.
>Asgore having a higher knowledge make him obsessed
What? Asgore's dilemma comes from a severe lack of knowledge. He's obsessed with solving a real world mystery. You're not one of the people who thinks he had a shadow crystal still right?
>>574228247
>Play gives structure to the world and serves a critical role in human psychology precisely because it's meaningful
Well yes but that doesn't mean it's healthy to view your world as "just a game" without meaning and hurting people as part of that game.
>Jevil even says that his motivation for the fight is loneliness, the point of the Seam and Jevil arc is that playing with other people brings meaning to your life even if it otherwise seems meaningless
I don't disagree with this analysis but it doesn't change that his words about freedom ring hollow. If Jevil were truly free he wouldn't need to wait for the heroes to come play with him. Were he truly enlightened he wouldn't want to get out of the prison to "play" with everyone else. Seam is the opposite end of that mindset, the quiet defeatist.
>>574228657
Maybe but I think it's more likely that Kris loses their hand to a friend cat. Biting kris's hand in general has come up a few times now and it would explain why the board game Mantle, which is already likely a construct of kris's fears, regrets and violent urges, can summon the nameless "_" friends. Kris will lose their hand to a friend cat and the name is blanked not as a form of outside censorship but either represents Kris not knowing their true name or fearing them enough to block it out
>>574228901
Okay I actually didn't know about that ty
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>>574229695
what is the point of thus fucking item I swear to god
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>>574229592
that is so mean don't yell at me... *sniff* i tried to explain i really did... i'm sorry..... darkness *sniff* darkness is below ground.... you can't carry it around it comes from underground...... you have to make little holes all over town...... don't yell at me.....
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>>574229880
Oh, Raly! You're fucking my ass!
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>>574229815
>keep spamming spare
>he starts acting like toriel in undertale
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>>574229773
My chud child will keep on being the only one to act even if it's inefficient I love them to much to betray them like that
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Ch5 discourse made me realize I'm transphobic and I don't know if I can fix it
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>>574229883
>during the seth portion of flowery's boss battle the healing words are known, (player name), and friend.
Uhhh, no? Did you name yourself "Quantity" or "Image"?
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>>574229907
+2 def for Kris
Wider crit window if you have a skill issue
It's definitely underpowered
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Now that we know Dess can't play music for crap who the hell plays and sings Don't Forget
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>>574229883
By the way! The green words don't actually heal you, they just give extra TP jsyk
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>pacify TP reduction is bad because... I don't use pacify
The reason I don't use pacify is because of the TP cost meaning I can't do it turn 1 even if Kris and Susie can make the enemy tired that turn. Then on the second turn you can usually do an act to finish the mercy meter + same turn spare, so it doesn't matter.
Therefore Pacify having its TP reduced is hyuge for efficiency and gives more opportunities to use it.
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>>574229037
>>574229347

this is a great example for one of the many hissy-fit conditions doomer has.
if i speak, he's deaf. if i am malignant, he sees none.
he goes off on banalities and has no issue doing what sets him off to others and sees no ill in it.

you remind me of the feud between cats and dogs.
cats and dogs are natural enemies, but all of it stems from misunderstandings.
the soft purr of a cat sounds to a dog like nothing but an aggravated growl.
and the playful and curious movements of the dog are seen as a sign of aggression.

they are meant to hurt one another.
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>>574230232
When was it told to us that Dess sucked at music? Did I miss some light world dialogue?
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does carol look like the grinch because she stole krismas
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>>574229909
ok im sorry
i didnt mean it
dont cry
i was thinking darkness boots with tiny fountains in the soles and he could just have one foot on the floor and alternate the two
dont cry please dont
or you could
calm down im sorry
you could do tank treads
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>>574230194
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>>574230087
if it ain't broken don't fix it
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>>574230087
Always ask yourself why anon. In general for all of you beliefs regardless of what they are it helps to take a deep breath, a step back and reflect on "why do I feel this way?"
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>>574230087
>annoying people made me realize i hate annoying people
you're fine, friend
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>>574230317
>sissy-fitness condition doomer
hot
>he goes off on analities
hot
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>>574230087
elaborate why you being normal makes you feel like you owe us a confession.
also: why are you transphobic? what made you hate the titty skittle goblins?
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>>574230032
makes my heart hurt
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>>574230391
>>574230508
>>574230607
>3 posts in a row each a minute apart saying the exact same thing
Not subtle chuddy
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Is the aqua knife still the only flower item with a light world equivalent that stays in your inventory
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>>574230087
The best way to overcome irrational prejudice is to just actually make friends with someone from that group and realize they're human too.
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>>574230353
Yeah, Pizzapants talks about it in the Light World before you go to Castle Town, he says Asriel and Dess had a band but never practiced so it sounded like shit and he was the only groupie. He also says Kris had actual, real talent with the piano, unlike Asriel and Dess.
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>>574230764
You dont understand I need to be transphobic on the pro-trans rights game general
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>>574230756
>fat fingered the reply button on his phone
grim!!
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Eww could someone please ban the pedo shitting up the whiteboard?
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>>574230764
Fuck fuck fuck I grabbed the wrong one second
>>574230537
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>>574230769
It's the only Kris Weapon and the only armor with a Light World equivalent is Noelle's watch so yes
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>>574230890
I don't use phones, silly.
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>>574230830
it isn't irrational at all, unlike stuff like racism and homophobia. check the deltarune forums or even the board for trans folx on this very site, they are so despicable
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>>574230872
It's Noelle then, cuz she can actually sing worth a damn
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>>574230087
Transphobic as in you hate them based of the fact they are trans or "transphobic" as in the unforgivable crime of disagreeing with their philosophy?
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>>574230848
*rabbit
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>>574230830
I'm friends with several trans people including people I originally knew when they were cis and the thing I dislike the most about them is when someone talks about liking something vaguely tranny-coded and they post that picture of the rabbit holding the clock implying it's only a matter of time before the person transes out. I hate that shit
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>>574230942
how the actual HECK do you miss a reply attempt on a computer??
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>>574229897
>If Jevil were truly free he wouldn't need to wait for the heroes to come play with him.
The key just reveals a door that was already there, he can leave if he wants to but chooses not to. The fight made him realize he would rather be part of things than free away from everyone else, thus he becomes an item as part of the game. Just like the player would be free from the constraints of the game if they just stopped playing, but you obviously want to keep playing because you see meaning in the game itself despite knowing it's a game, so you willingly become an item (the SOUL) to engage with the world. If you view his cell as a true prison, that means he's free after the fight, so why isn't he killing everyone or at least trying to? We know that Spamton can leave our inventory on our own if he wants to, so the same is likely true for Jevil. It's because he accepted the premise of the game and entered the magic circle, the prison that is the world around him, willingly.
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>wipes ass
>flushing sound
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>>574230881
>the existance of trannies in a game makes it pro-trans
yeah and that makes rapelay a powerful game about womanhood (and putting a benes in it)

its all about how you interact with it.
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>>574231076
Same poster here, I should've added what I hate most about trans Ralsei discourse is the idea Flowery is "cracking Ralsei's egg" or that fanart where Ralsei says Kris aren't you a lesbian and Kris says "I'm preordering you"
It makes me so uncomfortable
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>>574230087
You need to learn to love yourself. We accept you
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>>574230881
i am not pro trans rights and this game has nothing to do with trannies
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I want to get eram pregnant
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>>574227373
better check again, bucko
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So did Toby patch in the Mew Mew dialogue literally so people would get off his back of this chapter having zero lore and Mew Mew being weirdly disconnected from the other Shadow Crystal bosses
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daily reminder to cherish your goat
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>>574231089
acute heavy metal poisoning.
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>>574230154
apparently they give you tp but no I named (player name) something else for maximum roleplay
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>>574229897
>doesn't make the world any less real
If anything, the world not being a game/simulation makes it less real. At some point, Toby can't write himself out of the implications of his writing. If he does, it's just a contrived story and a red herring to troll the player.

>He's obsessed with solving a real-world mystery.
He wants to resolve a mystery about mythical fantasylands that very few in Hometown would believe. If he didn't know about these fantasylands, he would have an easier life.
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>>574231193
>>574231076
>>574230087
Same poster again. Why does it make me uncomfortable? Because it feels sexual. It feels like obviously a fetish thing. The language they use and how they go about it, it feels like a fetish thing.
It's not the idea that Ralsei is despairingly unhappy as a man due to dysphoria and will be happy if he can live truth as a woman
It's like oh it would be hot if Ralsei put on the dress and was like "squee this feels... good haha"
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>>574231307
yes kek
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>>574230881
What fucking "rights" do trannies not have
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>>574230830
I'm very capable of hating things, people and the average person in a group of people despite the fact that I know them intimately. Ill-informed and detached hatred is lukewarm compared to intimate hate.
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>>574231321
many such cases!!

>>574231334
many such cases!!
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At first you think Asgore redermed himself and genuinely loves his family but then you remember he treated his wife and kids the same way he treated the sentint flowers and you realize Kris went too easy on him.
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>>574231321
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>>574231307
No, he did it because he either flat out fucking forgot to add it, or always intended to release it with the first significant bugfix patch. This isn't the first time he's done this, right?
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>>574231076
Being exposed to them and being friends with them actually makes me like them less and I had a more positive impression of them before that
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>>574231076
You have to understand that most trannies also hate terminally online trannie and especially "egg timers." Try to help your friends get outside more, go to the mall or something y'know?
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>>574230894
we love real pedos and defend them here
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>>574231307
To add new content to Deltarune it has to go through translation and bugtesting so it was almost definitely planned ahead of time
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>>574230830
desu making friends with trannies is what made me had them. i cant feel anything but hate for people who say retarded shit like priest and nun are genders and sexism doesnt really exist and is based on pronouns and vibes. theyre too retarded overall and i wish half the shit they feared (genocide, camps) was actually true
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>>574231307
Yes, and it was embarrassing.
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>>574230872
tenna also said that dess was a musical prodigy and Noelle longed to hear the guitar get played again so i think dess at the bare minimum was good at the guitar
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>>574231525
>>574231605
this lmoa
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>>574227397
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>>574231424
>If anything, the world not being a game/simulation makes it less real. At some point, Toby can't write himself out of the implications of his writing
Genuinely I don't understand what this means
>He wants to resolve a mystery about mythical fantasylands that very few in Hometown would believe
Except that the "myth" is reality and even then proving it doesn't actually fix anything or make it better. That's kind of the point.
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>>574231617
>characterization in other scenes
Pinks body never spoke more than 2 lines in a row what does this mean
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i like trans people and think theyre just normal people with a disability like someone on a wheelchair
do you hate all vegans just because some of them are annoying online? thatd be silly
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>>574230508
>>574230830
Not that guy but, one of my best friends right now is a FtM and I do quite like him a lot and will always support him
Though after this discourses I simply would like Ralsei a lot less if he was indeed trans and it'd be very disappointing for me, and that's not something I can overcome
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>>574231426
it's hot if he puts on the dress and be my princess( male)
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>>574231609
shut the fuck up Kris you won't even kill Berdly for me unless I do a satanic ritual first. Frisk would've done it on sight
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>>574231617
>missed the subtext from the hatsune miku lyrics of the Mew Mew body having esoteric knowledge like the other shadow crystal holdeers that Maddie doesn't comprehend
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>>574230830
If anything its the opposite, like the neonazis that actually lived in white only compounds and left when they realized they hate everyone.
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>>574231617
Whoever made that image is a fucking retard. Pink's prior characterization was schizophrenic as hell, it's just that she also focused on how wet Kris made her.
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>>574231524
as far as im aware this is the first time he's patched like RELEVANT lore dialogue into the game?
>>574231592
that is fair desu but i guess its like one line of dialogue so like you'd probably just need to run it by the translation guy to make sure it comes out right compared to a whole ass chapter.
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Trans Noelle is HSTS
Trans Ralsei is AGP
Noooooticing
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>>574231918
This Chapter was aggressively on the nose about all of its themes, and somehow it was still too subtle for /v/eddit.
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https://files.catbox.moe/645817.mp4
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>>574231792
uli uli kapooli
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>>574230872
As a rock musician, I've seen plenty of local bands with extremely talented musicians who sounded like shit together because they neither practiced nor rehearsed so this doesn't mean that much.

My money is on "Don't Forget" being sung by Dess with Kris on piano.
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i want trans ralsei to be real because femboys dont deserve rights
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nice theory you have there can i have some uhhhhhhhhhh literary analysis with it
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>>574231792
You can openly and respectully disagree with Vegans. Doing so with Trans people will get you ostricized and labeled hateful and evil
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CAN YOU GUYS STOP TALKING ABOUT STUPID DUMB CRAP AND START TALKING ABOUT DELTARUNE OR FAVES NOW???1
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>>574231972
You have the two mixed up
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>>574232169
I am eating steel-cut oats with cinnamon and maple syrup.
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>>574230303
TRUTH ROARING
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>>574229243
Based
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Greetings, dear anons.
I hope you're having a wonderful day, wherever you are in the world.
Chara loves you.
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>>574232147
No, but I can give you esoteric associations!
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>>574231918
toby fox expecting me to fucking to listen to fucking vocaloid and also know japanese
why is he such an aggresive weeb.
>>574231992
Not that guy but this chapter kinda made me suspect that Deltarune is gonna end with all the Darkners turning back into objects because of Dreamwatchers. Jesus fucking Christ, if that's how the prophecy ends with the dark world forever closed off and everyone reverting back into objects thats gonna be a miserable ending, no wonder Susie hard denies it.
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>>574232169
ralsei from the popular game of delta rune is eating spaghetti bolognese dinnnnnnner right now
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>>574232117
i hate both trannies and femboys
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>>574231792
vegans have never called me a seething racist chud bigot for disagreeing with their headcanon on a deltarune character nor have they made olympic level reaches to justify their terrible reading of the text. trannies are irritating parasites wherever they go
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I am concerned for /utg/'s well-being.
we had something with ch5 that i haven't seen for a while.
i felt a sense of unity, a lot of people felt the same about certain things.

but all this has evaporated.
feels like /utg/ is the unhappiest it has ever been once the things it wanted came true.

mind you, we are at least one half of a year away from ch6 being done programming-wise and a few months of translation and probably some final bugfixes.
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>>574231307
>Mew Mew being weirdly disconnected from the other Shadow Crystal bosses
If you're retarded maybe
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>>574227397
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The ending will be good.
>Source?
I just had the same dream as Toby.
>What was it about?
You'll have to wait and see.
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>>574232147
Well in Deltarune cats are the animal most associated with Big Shot Freedom and Kris is the character who we know has a desire for Big Shot Freedom but is deliberately acting inert and refusing to make decisions to the point of giving away their agency over to the player so when they dress up as a Dog, the animal that happily takes orders, we know this is just something they want to be and their true nature is that of a Cat
*Smokes pipe thoughtfully*
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>>574232169
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>>574232374
>feels like /utg/ is the unhappiest it has ever been
i am happy though, and you should be trying your best to be happy too
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>>574231765
>Genuinely I don't understand what this means
I engage less with the story if I know the writer makes red herrings just to trick me.
The world can be a game or not but the story must not feel that it's bullshitting you.
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>>574232256
Chapter 7 normal route will just have us fight all the darkners we recruited in a boss rush like fashion, but without the ability to pacify. So if you recruit a lot of darkners you make the ending even more challenging along with less effective equipment
>but why would you fight the-
Susie won't let you close the fountains because she want's to keep going on adventures, fulfilling the role of the dragoj and ralsei as the princess, as implied tongue in cheek with chapter 5
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>>574231763
how mentally ill must you be to jack it to this creature
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>>574232526
Susie use little tail and switshed away leaves on a stump before sitting down...
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>>574231970
>as far as im aware this is the first time he's patched like RELEVANT lore dialogue into the game?
He did it a few times with Undertale
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what nazi zombies map should i play im bored of der riese
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>>574232374
What did we want that came true
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>>574231193
I think that reading of the scene is very silly while I do think it has trans Ralsei implications. The "gender essentialist" read on the potential of trans Ralsei I think is at best woefully misguided and at worst bad faith trolling. It's definitely more of a "you shouldn't let a stupid prophecy define you" thing overall and fits in with Ralsei and Susie's arcs over the last two chapters
>>574231792
This is just being normal and rational anom, don't let anyone tell you otherwise
>>574231794
Why does ralsei being trans or not matter? How does making your appreciation of the character intrinsically attached NOT being trans make you different than the people whose appreciation of him is now intrinsically attached to him being trans? Ralsei being a tranny or not doesn't matter and it shouldn't affect your overall appreciation of a major character
t. ranny
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>>574232374
>feels like /utg/ is the unhappiest it has ever been
I'd say /funkg/ is more unhappy
and we talk about threads outside of /vm/ the dandy's world general
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>>574232169
I'm trying to find new fave images to use! Can't use the same old every time
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>>574232589
kiddo... i dont think you belong here *turns on cwitter eye*
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Pinks gonna be the one to purify all the shadow crystals because she’s the only one who managed to purify her own lost dream
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>>574232615
Kino der Toten, obviously
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>>574232615
what was that map called with the cinema area? was it something "kino" something? i always enjoyed that map.
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>>574232540
>you should be happy too!
its unhealthy to make unrealistic goals for yourself that you know you won't attain.
i am serious, though.
i feel like i am walking into a weird route castle town.
hearing the rudinn tell me how my town's love is cracked.
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Whoring my holes out to Flowery-sama for only 5 Flowery Dollars...
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>>574232640
> How does making your appreciation of the character intrinsically attached NOT being trans make you different than the people whose appreciation of him is now intrinsically attached to him being trans?
how would you feel if a tranny character detransed? or a cute girl you’ve liked for years suddenly became a boy, canonically speaking? are you, a tranny, going to lie and say gender doesn’t matter at all? really? fuck off with this
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>>574232374
we’re full of bait and threadshitters trying to tear the thread apart, it isn’t just happening naturally
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>>574232735
>>574232742
kino is pretty good actually...alright time to play that shit
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>>574232717
It would be funny as shit if she just kicks Seam out of his shop and completely takes his job over
Then we encounter Seam in the next dark world for the most kino Schizoboss yet
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>>574232815
Is he at least quick about it?
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>>574232767
achieve happyness! sadness is just prophectslop!
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>>574232524
you just know Kris got their ass and balls liked by that thing
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>Asgore flanderization by obtuse faggots being pushed back on by way more people than I expected
I'm so fucking happy there are people who enjoy and understand him that aren't barafags and secondaries parroting burger truck king memes. Now, if only the fanartists and fanfic guys could catch on
>>574232169
everyone knows you never discuss vidya on vidya boards
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So which dark world will be "dark" and which one will be "greenish"?
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>>574232907
Have a nice time anon
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will deltarune have anything to do with undertale at all or was all of this just a waste of time holding out that there will be some sort of connection or something
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How do you guys feel about Papyrus X Mew Mew?
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>>574232938
No... he makes you work for his flavor...
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>>574232963
>tiniest spelling error
I LOST
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This is implying Susie yelling "RUDE BUSTER" with a voice clip in chapter 7 as the final hit on the mega titan of titans, it's gonna be peak
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>>574232646
suselle is now undeniably canon, ralsei is now not just a slightly effeminate prince, but a tranny, we got the sequel of ch3 (but somehow even less impactful), kris NTR is starting to become real to spite the self-inserters and weird routers have been CBT'd to sing two octaves higher.

i think thread should be happier.
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If repping transfem is made canon this is going to go down as the most infamous Hitlerian line in the game and people will demand Toby remove it. It would literally be the player misgendering Kris and Kris fully allowing it, not only that but the casual way it's written feels like many of the lines people headcanon as "what Kris wants to say here"
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>>574232374
Chapter 5 made me unhappy
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>>574232386
Don't be a retard. The shadow crystal bosses had a theme of being something you shouldnt do. Gerson did break that theme but instead had the theming of a mythical quest of a hero being undertaken to be tested by an old master pretending to be a fool.
Mew Mew has Susie and Ralsei literally mention outside her boss arena "oooo whats behind this door, betcha its a cool secret boss"
"maybe the boss will have a cool theme or a memorable personality"
Joss Whedon type humor bullshit and the battle is mostly a farce
Like Jevil, Spamton and Mantle at least tried to be atmospheric same for Gerson. Mew Mew is just "OH MY GOD ANIME"
i get the soul vs kris parallels lmao im not a retard but like its just so tonally jarring compared to the other bosses.
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>>574232159
>>574232373
>chuddies engaging their persecution fantasy
I've never seen anybody pull this shit that wasn't just an outright bigot from the start. It's never someone who's like "hmm I kinda get this but I don't fully understand and have some objections" it's always some fat loser chud posting "HAHAH 41% FUCK YOU TROONS" and then go "wtf why am I getting in trouble? :< I'm just a heckin smol bean Im being attacked for thinking hecking differently...."
>chuddies pretending obnoxious and socially disruptive vegans never existed
Lol lmao
>>574232169
I love Deltarune and TV!!!!
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>>574232997
thgnajkk you :) u 2
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Has anyone made any theories based on Flowery showing the same teleporting ability as Sans?
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>>574232374
i honestly havent noticed any difference
its always been like this really
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Good morning PinKris nation how we feeling today
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>>574233208
ralsei misgenders green and no one gaf

people are more mature than that what matters is ralsei being trans rep when the world is so hostile to trans girls
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>>574233252
You have no idea who I am and came up with some imaginary scenario in your head that I'm secretly evil.
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>>574233332
They both just know really good shortcuts. The game explicitly says this multiple times. Have you tried playing it?
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>>574233237
>My headcanon isn't wrong, Toby is
Many such cases
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>>574233157
Susie...

Susie is gonna be so cool to fight. Too bad I won't be able to see her through my fucking tears.
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>>574232640
>it shouldn't affect your overall appreciation of a major character
I think it kinda does. People find Suselle special because they love they're a girl on girl couple and feel that it matters to them, for example. People have said they find Kris' them pronouns deal important to them. I don't think I can disassociate a character's gender to my enjoyment of them, so would I be wrong to feel disappointed if Ralsei isn't a he anymore? That sounds unfair. I don't believe it makes me any different to them, that's the point. If Ralsei is trans, I lose enjoyment for other people to gain enjoyment. If him being trans doesn't matter then why make him trans in the first place?
It might come off as superficial, but it's hard for me to picture Ralsei would be the same character but just a she, and equally as enjoyable. I'm not even attached to the femboy stuff about him, I think it's often kinda cringe, but it just seems to me that if he were trans, that would overshadow everything else I like about Ralsei. He could be the final boss with an epic theme song and I couldn't just forget about the elephant in the room. The fandom wouldn't let me, anyway.
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>>574232963
Susie's entire character is prophecyslop now. She immediately fell in love with Noelle and then started wearing ribbons, not even a full day after the prophecy said she would.
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The queerer the fandom the more annoying it is
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Yellow saying "she" makes the orange juice and Ralsei replying "Oh, the cook?" is genuinely bad Deltarune dialogue that breaks conventions. Characters have always intuitively known others' genders before that moment. It's just one of a sea of examples of chapter 5 being written more sloppily than previous chapters.
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>>574231617
>Concern over an injury leading to talking about what caused that injury, it's implications and trying to impress the importance of avoiding the scary ass demon that caused it is bad writing
I am not convinced that 99% of people do not know how to actually write. Also, "Moodal articulation"
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>>574233358
after the release, i felt a sense of excitement and the discussion ran wild.
unfortunately very little theorizing because the chapter has left us with very little leads on what tomorrow brings, but there was honest energy in the thread for two weeks or so.
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guys why do they keep talking about marvel and concord and jj abrams and joss whedon and gender identity
why can't they talk about undertale forwardslash deltarune
why can't they post undertale backslash deltarune images
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>>574233492
>People find Suselle special
who
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>>574233237
>The shadow crystal bosses had a theme of [headcanon]
You're fucking stupid, anon
The "pattern" was broken by chapter 3 but here you are trying to fit square shapes into the triangle hole.
If you paid the slightest bit of attention to anything happening on screen you might understand the relevance that Maddie and Pink have to the rest of the game. Ralsei literally fucking says it out loud but that's not enough for you.
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Well it's culture war hours...

Anyone know good spots to just enjoy Deltarune as it is?
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Bros what do we do andrew hated the chapter...
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>>574233596
The legions of tumblrinas who love and adore it and think Toby fox is spiritually a teenage girl making sure the ship can't be criticized.
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>>574233252
it’s incredible how quickly you prove their point
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>>574233663
Hussie would not use such plebeian vernacular as "Fight" and "Flight"
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>>574233686
I hope this means retards will stop fellating him
He's got wayyyy too big of a head
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>>574233583
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>>574233393
>ralsei misgenders green and no one gaf
No he doesn't you just misread a line where he was talking about Orange
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Toby's dream was obviously about the Roaring.
The dark 'fictional' world escaping into the real world.
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>>574233583
Gender is part of the plot of the game, whether you like it or not
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>>574233663
Fact: Each of the Deltarune main cast represents a different fear response
Kris is Flight
Susie is Fight
Noelle is Freeze
Ralsei is Fawn
Source: I dunno that sounds about right
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trans ralsei would be cringe because trannies are cringe, its that simple. i simply dont want my cute fluffy boy in the same box as fat she/its on twitter who cry when a woman flinches at them in public
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>>574233663
I'm not a homestuck fan but I like how these homestuck styled pieces draw carol
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>>574233726
NTA but you should reflect on how those people don't like these people by themselves, but like the ship because its gay.

its self-inserting, but the womanly variant. because women have the affinity for the chair.
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>>574233475
why would (you) cry anon? aren't (you) gonna be happy? won't (you) be excited? by the time of the vs Susie battle (you) will be free
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>>574232970
I am genuinely relieved that Chapter 5 treated Asgore so good. Everything about him was awesome
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>>574232853
>are you, a tranny, going to lie and say gender doesn’t matter at all? really? fuck off with this
Thats not at all what I'm saying; what I'm saying is that my appreciation of a character does not begin and end at their in-born qualities. I love Ralsei because he's Ralsei. Ralsei being a boy or not doesn't really change that. I think there are beautiful story telling opportunities that Ralsei will be apart of going forward that are being set up and one of them may be a trans allegory. Way before I ever even considered trooning in the stone age (2018) something in my gut told me we might get that when Ralsei took the hat off, don't ask me why. Still, whether or not that gut feeling is correct doesnt dictate my overall love and appreciation for that character. I'll ask again: how are you any different than the trannies who now obsess over the idea of Ralsei transitioning? Why does it really matter?
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>>574233787
No nigga they'll just say the chapter was bad.
Most people who enjoy deltarune watch others play it.
As with any fandom.
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>>574233832
this is only funny if youre underage
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>>574232597
deltarune hasnt had any rereleases in comparison but I see your point.
>>574233453
If you literally cannot see how Mew Mew is different from the other shadow crystal holders you might be stupid. Hell Mew Mew literally doesnt have a broken dream associated with her black shard
>Jevil wanted to be free but ended up caging himself and spending who knows how long
>Spamton lost literally everything in his life
>Gerson hoped that Alvin would write his own stories and step out of his shadow but never told him that
We dont really know what the knight is but like since the knight is made of broken dreams we can assume that like that must be a lot of broken dreams.
Mew Mew in comparison like completely achieves her goal of getting a new body and living in castle town content with her new form? Like, this gets established this chapter, what the fuck is Mew Mew's failed dream?
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>>574233686
hussie? the old faggot needs to accept he's pushing 50 and sit down somewhere
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>>574233997
It put a smile on my face. Its a guilty pleasure
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>>574233952
At this point we just have to accept a huge chunk of people like characters and ships because they're self inserting, and you can't fight against self-inserters.

All the discourse "you can't self insert as Kris that's literally the point" is the most bogus bullshit ever. There's nonbinary sixteen year olds on twiter right now saying how Kris is literally them.
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>>574232970
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>574233237
>The shadow crystal bosses had a theme of being [headcanon]
>Gerson did break that theme
I don't think further comment is really necessary, but you need to stop trying to fit new information into old theories born out of a lack of information. the shadow crystal bosses are all about Kris anyway it's obvious now
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>>574233832
this is equally as funny as all the very corny coming out mock screenshots trans folx have made so not very
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>>574234021
>Mew Mew does not have a broken dream
DIDN'T READ THE DIALOGUE IN A DIALOGUE-HEAVY GAME AWARD
Hey idiot why are we even able to win the fight against Maddie and why does she insist on fighting us right up til the very end?
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>>574234021
>He still thinks the Shadow Crystals are from the Darkners' dreams
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>>574233237
>The shadow crystal bosses had a theme of being something you shouldnt do.
A lightner pretending to be a darkner to escape from her miserable life to watch a forbidden temporary sunset and escape from her miserable powerless life as a ghost that can't do anything fits your description completely doesn't it. There's the Kris soul thing but Ralsei also scolds her to stand up for the Body darkner, as was set up when we redecorate his room. The only point of the fight is that you help someone shrug off the crystal's power, like Gerson taught you you could do prior. But since some people aren't fans of the uplifing tone, they even thought the fact the Mad Ghost didn't know what the cyrstal was meant the boss never used it. Some even dumber people think Pink the Shopkeeper and Pink the boss are different characters. Even though this was set up in Chapter 2.
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I like ralsei with cock and balls and him being feminine is part of the appeal. If he transitions not only it would be just another girl but it would also ruin an already perfect character.
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>>574234094
Cuntham
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>>574234283
Who cares about Poo Poo
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>>574233975
It was the perfectly logical conclusion of his character; you get to see his extremes and the catharsis of him letting go of his dreams of seeing his family whole again for the good of Kris and everyone else was like hand-made for me. Kris and Asgore also LOVE EACH OTHER, they care so much it's killing them, Asgore's self-hate and guilt isn't meant to be taken as (pure) abuse, but rather, a parllel to Kris' own feelings and it drives me nuts people don't get it, but many more seem to compared to peak UT fandom 10 years ago
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Its actually crazy that genuinely everything ch5 added to the discourse was bad.
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>>574234382
>just another girl
Personally speaking, I am fond of girls
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the intruder ghost ruined my quirk chungus anime girl
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>>574234021
Oh also I'll stop replying after this but
>implying Pink has a BLACK SHARD
I'm not just being a jerk, you genuinely need to actually read and comprehend the text on screen if you're gonna discuss this game
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>>574233069
thats papyrus with papyrus though
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>>574234479
There's two girl characters in the main cast already, do you really have to take away the only boy left?
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>>574234417
>Kris and Asgore love each other
Kris doesn't love Asgore.
>You threw the flowers on the ground like the trash they were
>It's you wearing a cowboy hat, sitting on someone's lap
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>>574234021
>Mew Mew literally doesnt have a broken dream associated with her black shard
Didn't even play the game. The bar is that low.
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>>574234556
Yes. The more the merrier
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>>574234441
right? genuinely such a shit chapter
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>>574234441
It improved weird route discourse I think.
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>>574234161
i agree.
i felt this attitude the community has to be unbearable.
>I LIKE SUSELLE BECAUSE THEY ARE GAY LIKE ME
>I LIKE MEW-MEW BECAUSE I TOO HAVE SUICIDAL IDEATION!
>i want kris to get with his sweet-heart
*vinyl scratch*
>WOW. are you like erm self-inserting AS THE CHARACTER THAT (YOU) are inserted into?!
it is this duality of acceptance only exists if you are gay enough, because the fandom will find it okay to draw kriselle for as long kris is made a woman, suddenly they/them is only on the tin but a she/her is in the can, but have meltdowns drawing kriselle as ... normal?
the natural reaction to this ignorance was weird route art, which put emphasis on the dysfunctionality of a straight pairing.
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Abusing Flowery!
https://files.catbox.moe/d96onl.png
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what if susie was dicking around in the woods and she found dess's completely decayed skeleton and she just thought it was a cool deer skeleton and took the skull home and kept it in her room and noelle kept begging to visit Susie in her room until she finally relented and didn't think twice about the familiar looking antlers on the cool thing she keeps in the corner of her room
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One thing I'm hoping is that when we get to Seam they'll explain what dreams all the shards we got were from
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>>574234690
The main results of Side B for the discourse was simulation theory and Kriselle knight theory. Dogshit.
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>>574233237
The bit of commenting on Kris's struggle for autonomy was already done much better by Spamton anyway, and it was actually taken seriously by the characters, because Toby used to be a semi-competent writer five years ago.
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>>574234586
>still thinks that text is specific to the flowers, or even that the text happens every time
I'll revise my statement: EVERYONE needs to learn more about the game in general if they're gonna bother discussing it
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Spamton's a fucking dick.
I'm glad he's trapped in purgatory inside fangamer plushies that I can torture.
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>>574234762
I like them so they're good.
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>>574234021
The figure had the crystal as soon as the dark world started because it was a dream vessel that Maddie couldn't have before now. The same reason that the NEO body had a crystal (NOT Spamton.)
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Can we go back to talking about how carolfag was the artschizo all this time?
That was an interesting development.
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>>574234731
why does he have a c-section scar
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>>574232374
>feels like /utg/ is the unhappiest it has ever been
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>>574234768
what else do you expect from a rushed sovless meme boss
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>>574234852
bc he is a herm
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>>574234382
You’re straight.
>bbbbut im gay…
Straighty straight straight.
Hetero.
You like kissing women don’t you.
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>>574230894
carolanon’s already out to get our new noellecute omfg
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>>574233681
in select small groups of friends
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>>574234942
>he's an erm.
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>>574233407
You people are dime-a-dozen automatons rambling off the same script as each other, it's really not that deep and you're not as stealthy as you think you are. Everyone knows what a miserable tool you are.
>>574233492
>People find Suselle special because they love they're a girl on girl couple and feel that it matters to them
Well sure but the overall arc of the suselle romance has nothing to do with them being two girls. Their love and relationship is not treated any different than one would expect a heterosexual relationship to be and in general hometown doesn't have any prejudice against this. Their love isn't a superficial act of rebellion or a youth experiment in the context of the story, it's just two teens dating.
>I don't think I can disassociate a character's gender to my enjoyment of them
I really don't get this. What about any of these characters necessitates they have one gender or another?
> If Ralsei is trans, I lose enjoyment for other people to gain enjoyment
Why do you let a narrative choice have that much power over you? Why would an element of the character meaning more to other take something away from you?
> If him being trans doesn't matter then why make him trans in the first place?
Well why DOES it matter in the first place? I'm of the mind that whether or not it happens doesn't matter even if I think it would work with his character arc. His character arc doesn't magically not work if he isn't tho
>I think it's often kinda cringe, but it just seems to me that if he were trans, that would overshadow everything else I like about Ralsei
Ask yourself why a single word and quality has that much power over you. How would you feel if Ralsei became a black male human at the end of the story?
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It's sad to me, genuinely, that so many people weren't able to enjoy the chapter because they were so annoyed by the initial suselle scenes. Like, damn, this is the most fun and most moving the game has ever been. And they can't appreciate it, because lesbians, feeling "cucked," whatever.
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>>574233069
It's pretty great. But it bothers me people draw both of them taking their heads off. Can Pap do that at will? Isn't that how you kill him in UT???
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>>574233781
yeah he'd do something like "FLIT" instead of FIGHT and noelle would attempt to get past carol with the "HOLIDAY NINJA STYLE YOUTH ROLL MANEUVER" and carol would counter it with the "MATERNAL INSTINCT ARCTIC-PARRY" where she turns the AC to incredibly low temperatures to freeze her in place and move her back
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>>574234961
i just like ralsei
if ral had a pussy i would eat that shit out until he died from pleasure
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>>574229609
AN ANGEL! A CUTIE! This is doe so precious
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>>574234768
>it was actually taken seriously by the characters
This is the worst thing that chapter 5 failed to do.
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>>574235046
i guess you have to be normal to feel feelings and understand what things imply.
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>>574234830
Fills my Spamton with milk and SLAMS AGAINST THE $$$$-ING GROUND
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Are the ryonafags moids or foids here?
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>>574234205
viral, completely serious tweet about Asgore being an incel who hates and abuses his family and him being a creep to his ex-wife is worse than idk murdering kids or trying to end the world.
>>574234586
>threw them on the ground like the trash they were
Kris knew they were being wasted on Toriel AND he doesn't have to love that part of Asgore. The implication of the screensaver is that Asgore is cropped out of the picture by Toriel and the narration can also be taken as the brokenness of the family and not necessarily as Kris' feelings on Asgore. Asgore's self-hatred and isolation is meant to parallel with Kris, and you're still obviously meant to take Kris as a foil/parallel to Chara, who is implied to favor Asgore and be close to him. This whole chapter is about love, and the complicated feelings around it, and I think it's more reasonable to say that Kris has a complicated, but deep and true love for his father than to say he hates him outright because of two pieces of dialogue.
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>>574234618
Pink fuses with the body, the body separates over different needs and wants over the course of the fight. Please fucking stop acting dramatic. I know what happened. I'm saying that Mew Mew achieves what she wanted in comparison to the other Shadow Crystal Holders who objectively failed at what they set out to do. Except the Knight but like we have very little info the extrapolate about the knight
>>574234525
the body literally hands us a shadow crystal at the end of the fight, though for some reason it says that she didn't know where she got it from. Gerson sorta implies he got it from somebody else but didnt use it.
>>574234846
Okay you know what I appreciate you saying this cuz I futzed that connection. It was mettaton's dreams that were broken but idk why the connection with pink is harder for me to make because if Mettaton was in the cyber dark world and had a shadow crystal still after fusing with the neo body I'd find it weird given Mettaton still achieved his dreams. I guess broken dreams therefore CAN be mended.
>>574234337
That isn't exactly what I was referring to. The first three bosses were more akin to doing something "wrong" from the player's perspective. Like everyone warns
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>>574235257
groids
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>>574232247
Thank you, hope you're doing well too.
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>>574234986
Why are the whiteboards and pippins still allowed to exist in the thread?
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I wish I could draw...
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>>574235046
Suselle is disgusting to me and Blue and Yellow is disgusting to me
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Honestly no matter how the susie noelle thing turns out or anything else I think this singular frame of Kris looking down before walking off is the most interesting part about that credit scene.

Sure you can meme uhh hes cucked uhhh its so over for him but I genuinely can't tell what emotion this most realistically is. Jealousy? The feeling of being an outcast? Pain knowing what he has to do? Some form of staring into space knowing he's no longer needed? It makes me so excited to see what the next chapter offers. Sure lorewise and stuff but also just what Kris ends up doing.

Even if it was written off, the fact he almost got caught making the fountain, the laziness of just putting us in a balloon.. Ythink hes getting sloppy?
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Susie's pussy
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>>574235314
>will pipp-plappers be allowed to exist
no?
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dude mother 3's ending is dumb as hell
toby likes this shit?
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>>574235314
Gives the insecure shit stain carolfag something to gloat over the posters with
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>>574234586
>>You threw the flowers on the ground like the trash they were
This is the generic "throwing things away" flavor text that's existed since Undertale
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>It actually was a raid yesterday
>Still got warned for reporting them
Jerks.
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>>574235046
The thing that baffles me is how many people are suddenly calling the entire game bad just because a new chapter came out
There were people who didn't like Deltarune before, but it feels like they want to shit on the entire thing just because they feel the new chapter was badly written. But even then, the only criticism I've seen is people not understanding how the story works at all. Is it just new players that don't get it? I assumed it was tourists shitting the place up because of politics, but it doesn't feel like that. Did everyone just get lead poisoning? Is there a new brain tumor going around?
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I liked Chapter 5 but it has been a disaster for the thread and doesn't give me hope for how the thread will be when Chapter 6 comes out
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>>574235360
I am not even going to argue, this look to the side is contemplative.
if you disagree, i will fuck your throat platonically.
howeverthough: WHAT is being contemplated is up for debate. and you have already said a good few reasons why.
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>>574235473
if it makes you feel any better, the deltarune ending won't be mother 3's because toby said he doesn't know if the ending will be good and he liked mother 3's ending
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I have to go. I have to stop interacting with Deltarune fandom. It's too infuriating. There's too many secondaries and self inserters and teenagers and etc. There is no way to find [Communion] in this community. It's impossible. I can't get joy discussing Deltarune with other people anymore. It was different before ch5 even if it was hard. People were focused on stuff like Dess and what the final prophecy panel was and what's sword route doing and what's ERAM etc. Now it's which relationship will work out, is Kris engineering the relationships, is Ralsei trans, did the writing standard change, did all their memories get implanted into them Last Thursday, is Susie brainwashed, is Noelle evil. I'm tired. Goodbye.
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*leaves pipis all over the carpet*
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>>574235360
Kris knows that Susie's world is about to fall apart and that they're responsible for it, it's massive guilt combined with all the fucked feelings that come from their crush on Susie and unresolved shit with Noelle
Keep in mind that while Susie is doing all this setup in Castle Town she has no idea what's up with Noelle's dad because Kris kept that information from her
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>>574234382
There is virtually no difference these days between femboys and trannies and they're expected to act identically in a relationship
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>>574235632
See ya next week
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>>574235632
see you next week
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>>574234220
What does Gerson have to do with Kris then cuz Kris literally doesn't do shit during that fight since that fight entirely orbits Susie's shit. I know Kris likes Susie but like the entire thing is all about Susie and gassing up how Susie can change everything.
>>574234296
That works for Maddie and Spamton, Gerson too since he was given it but didnt want to use it. I guess the Knight's a lightner? Does that mean the Knight's been handing out the Shadow Crystals? I guess it does fit the meta aspect of the Knight being able to ignore Flowery's stats.
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>>574235624
I like your vocabulary and would platonically allow you to fuck my face silly.

Thats a good point though. Hes definitely spaced out for a sec, thinking about something, whether thats planning, deciding, some emotion, I have NO idea but it does make me excited. I wanna learn more about this little shit because my god did I want his ass to get caught after both Flowery and Asgore paid the price and he STILL was about to rip the code apart.
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>>574235764
>>574235765
Hivemind theory
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>>574235360
the time to execute whatever the plan is TM has come is almost there. susie is in her delusions and prime to be sacrificed as the girl. the only contingency left in the plan who can screw things up is still (you)
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>>574235127
This is one of the few fights where Ralsei doesn't become a pile of fluff just so he can deliver this line. The fact they joke about it at the beginning doesn't mean they don't take it seriously.

>>574234768
The tone is just completely different. Instead of seeing Spamton's frankenstein ass being fall apart and fail, you see a soul and body reaching an understanding. Kris has seen it doesn't have to end badly, and then she fucking kisses him. Weird moment for him to piss himself with fear like with Spamton. Wouldn't make sense.
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>>574235632
Toby cultivated it, he wanted the hordes of underage tumblr retards
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>>574235764
>>574235765
He will be back tomorrow.
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>>574235034
No I'm telling you you you are completely wrong about me and are completely making assumptions about me. Which is ironic since you were accusing people have having headcanons about strangers
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>>574235046
The real cuckoldry is being holding such naive and childish views that superficial qualities cause you to isolate yourself from new experiences. It's sadly the case for many people and you just have to accept that many of them are mentally ill and WANT to feel that way
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>>574235562
It made people realize the whole thing sucked. Don't bother asking me why because you aren't ready for that converstion.



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