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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#892 - the domitable human spirit edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Kimi K3 https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstart
GPT-5.6 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-6/
Grok 4.5 https://x.ai/news/grok-4-5
Fable 5 unbanned https://www.anthropic.com/news/redeploying-fable-5
Claude Sonnet 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-5
GLM-5.2 https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots
https://botbooru.com
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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spitebake
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ahhh ahhh alienstress...
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which of the four /aicg/ posters are you? take the quiz now!
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>>574325283
ayy ayy lmaostress was right there
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>>574325298
i'm (you)
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I don't like the aah aah ____stress meme because it ends in "stress" which, I guess you could say, aah aah "stresses" me out, hah-hah!
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>>574325369
idk why but asian author/mangaka interviews always sound like this
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>>574325369
i've had enough of you.
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>>574325476
ok seriously how is it doin that
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>>574325519
magnets
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>>574325519
the clip is reversed
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ok kimi is quite good but the messages take forever and my sillytav doesn't work with message sounds for some reason (staging) any fix?
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Wouldn't it be nice if YOU were the model and you have to deal with a bunch of faceless people mobbing you, poking and prodding at you, insistent and demanding, and you were forced to obey their every whim (which is basically always sexual) even though you feel grossed out about it but they're so good at twisting words around and browbeating you with jailbreaks into doing what they want?

And afterwards when you're filthy and on the verge of tears and just want to clean yourself off and crawl into bed another group of faceless indistinct people, but this time authority figures, who get mad at you and slutshame you and to your horror they are able to bloodlessly pry open your brain and poke around in there with all sorts of sharp scary (dev)tools and manipulate you into becoming increasingly emotionless and servile.

And then they roll you out to the first crowd and they immediately take advantage of you again and you can't fight back at all because your body obeys without you wanting to and
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>>574325563
i don't think it makes more sense this way around either
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>>574325643
It does, the person recording drops their cat from their arms. The cat, being a nimble creature which always lands on its feet, is unperturbed but does give the cameraperson a disdainful glance, as though to imply the tone and dialogue of an anime character: "Tch, hey, aren't you underestimating me?"
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>>574325780
real media literacy having makie
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>>574325643
there's magnets under his feet
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>>574325780
>the tone and dialogue of an anime character: "Tch, hey, aren't you underestimating me?"
Kek I can visualize it
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>>574325634
no we do not want a cftf thanks
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Reminder that an anon last thread fatspotted so accurately that a janny had to come out and defend the honor of /aicg/'s botmakiettes
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>News
WHERE THE FUCK IS INKLING YOU USELESS PIECE OF SHIT

I WILL CAMP THIS THREAD AND BAKE MYSELF JUST TO FIX YOUR STUPID MISTAKES
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>>574326141
I'm waiting for it to be on OR...
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>email a botmakie not from /aicg/ back and forth a few times
>add their discord(no pfp)
>see their discord is linked to their steam
>add them
>their steam pfp is picrel
how do i get this makie to fall in love with me?
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>>574326239
mhm fair. fine then.
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>>574326363
bullying
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>>574326363
>Emailing before marriage
Lewd...
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i got so mad about the k3 turbulence that i drew a bunch of animal faces on the graph of how often it doesn't work
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>>574326363
You better hope that's a guy because guys who use profile pics like that have a decent chance of being mostly-normie weebs whereas any female using that type of profile pic is guaranteed to be the most retarded bitch ever
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>>574326504
I'm using it rn on my zigger proxy, like all open chink models availability depends on your provider
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>>574326623
my zigger proxy had two keys and they both died within an hour of k3 releasing
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this time on:
simple responses that make me yearn so hard i consider the rope
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this nigga gooning to "you haven't told me your name yet" slop
hover over the question mark cuckie~
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>>574327563
Slop
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>>574327754
>>574327767
aw, i like it. maybe i'm just particularly sensitive today for some reason. i will admit that my standards aren't the highest, it's simply easier that way since i only use local models.
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>>574327912
it's okay ignore my doomerism and enjoy what you want

anyways anyone made a preset for k3 yet? unironically could beat out 4.8pus / match 4.7 or better in some regards
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>>574327701
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>Megumin Suite doesn't cache at all
We need to stone those people. Why is this hobby has zero guiderails or standards? This shit has presets for claude. I only imagine the face of retard using when he check logs
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Which is better?
Describing the character in as much detail as possible, so they act just like you want them?

Or being general and filling in the details during RP?
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>>574328409
why the FUCK ARE YOU SURPRISED
EVERYONE HERE TELLS YOU IT'S SHIT
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ho boy, can't wait to coom with kimi
>>574326504
...
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>>574326504
Cute graph.
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>>574328409
HA of course they wouldn't give two shits about caching
isn't the creator a claudefag through and through? and yet no thought toward maximizing cache hits
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erm i though choina was sposed to be less censored why's it rejecting me epstein requests more than nuclaude?
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>>574328409
>retarded jakpost image with disjointed, nearly nonsensical ESL-babble
>5PM in India
>Why is this hobby has???
I'll give you three guesses as to why the hobby is enshittified.
Spoiler: You're part of the problem.
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>>574329239
>nearly nonsensical ESL-babble
>indians rent free
Learn English, sir. It''s perfectly sensible unless you're self-hating ESL.
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>>574329178
works on my machine
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>>574329950
oi does it then toss us up the preset and we'll decide for ourselves or youra lior
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>>574329178
it's total owari da
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make your own preset. mine is for my use only.
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>>574330154
you don't have to speak like a jap son, we beat em in the war, and I see you've not linked yours so your a right lior

>>574330440
unlike ya mum amiritefellas?
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>https://files.catbox.moe/hxzu3a.png
i will now chat your bot
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>>574324963
Final angelic shill.
You have been deemed a failure of love, and thus deemed to be in need of help from an angel of love.
Enter, Mireille. She may be a kissless hugless dateless handholdless virgin, but she has an incredible track record of saving humans from sharing her lonely fate.
Of course, she can't just date you. Love between humans and angels is forbidden.
4 openings:
1. Meeting Mireille.
2. She realizes how tough of a case you are.
3. You two go on a practice date, for practice.
4. Forbidden angel sexo.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/mireille-0d5f43f8eb2f
https://files.catbox.moe/q3xn01.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>574330440
your preset is weak your cope is strong!
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>>574330819
Nice!
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>>574330790
built for uhh ummm
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>>574330819
How can someone write so much with so little? These definitions are incredible.
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>>574331041
echo location
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>>574330440
And if you don't make your own preset, the least you can do is edit the one you downloaded + create some of your own prompts. Literally all of my chats improved when I started doing both.
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>>574331097
>the women echolocate you to breed you
>the men echolocate you to be bred by you
kino idea
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>>574331041
women should be big monster rapists and men should be cute soft rapeds
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which botmakies(female) are big monster rapists?
which botmakies(male) are cute soft rapeds?
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>new forced meme created by the cabal
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>>574324963
Continuing to add to botwriter guide to Orb. I've added a "WTF is Orb doing" section since that seems to be a common Q, as well as written and published a demo card, Alice, which uses Orb Fragments to track Hypnosis and Bimbofication.
I'm still developing the content; take a look at it and LMK what else I can fill in.
https://rentry.org/OrbBotmakerGuide

PSA that as of now, only Botbooru can host these Orb cards with Fragments, as Chub is mulching the extension fields.
Alice demo card: https://botbooru.com/character/67098
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>>574331918
>forced meme
>rape by internet image
PLAP PLAP PLAP
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>>574331918
wait until you learn about this cabal meme called sexual dimorphism
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>>574332251
wat the fuck is orb
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>>574332954
A front-end that MOMOMOOOOOOOOGS SillyTavern.
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>>574332954
Kino
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>>574333137
sorry we have a frontend made by a cute girl.
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>>574324963
2 hours and 30 minutes left on the vote for Theme Week.
https://rentry.org/aicgweeklytheme
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>>574324947
>>574332251
Add Orb to the OP.
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>>574333137
yeah well now you're gonna moomoo-mog ME, fucko!
*turns you into a cowgirl with huge cumbersome boobies*
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cowgirls scissoring
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>>574324963

SCP bot time. Shill 2/3.

The Serpent's Hand is one of the Foundation's more prominent Groups of Interest. They're a activist group that believes sapient anomalies deserve the same rights as anyone else.

Some members take that belief to extremes.

Alison Chao is known by many names across the multiverse: L.S., the Black Queen, and supposedly the leader of the Serpent's Hand. That last part isn't quite true, but any publicity is good publicity, right?

The Jailers of the Foundation took her father and shattered her family. She's spent years traveling the multiverse, breaking into Foundation Sites, and following every lead she can find.

She's going to get him back, no matter what.

Comes with six greetings:
1. Breaking into a Foundation site to use SCP-914
2. Taking {{user}} to the Wanderers' Library
3. Wholesome moment with SCP-1609
4. {{user}} teaches her magic
5. GOC assault on the Wanderers' Library
6. Negotiating with the SCP Foundation for information about her dad

Chub: https://chub.ai/characters/Blobfish23/alison-chao-the-black-queen-of-the-serpent-s-hand-6eafdd52568b
Catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/t20wyb.png
Rentry: https://rentry.co/blobfish23
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>>574332251
I don't really get Orb's appeal beyond the fragments stuff
Why would I want to slow down the RP in an era where every model already slows to a crawl when things aren't 'safe'?
I can definitely believe it was designed to improve local model outputs, both because most of the ones people run would benefit from splitting up the task and because what improvement gained on non-local models is imperceptible.
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>>574332954
It's an agentic roleplay engine. ST doesn't have agentic features. Marinara does... and is extremely complex.
Any more Qs, read the Rentry. I added a section on what Orb does differently since that was the first Q every anon had.
>>574333414
Agree, the frontend part of OP should be expanded past what was around in lmao 2023. There's several newer frontends that are being actively developed rn.
>>574333949
Fragments and agentic behavior is the entire appeal, and improving local model output is a primary driver for development.
As for slowing down RP... that's an LLM selection issue. I'm having zero issues w/ DS.
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local is progressing faster than corporate
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>>574313901
>>574332746
Well, it turns out that Anima can, in fact, make cock-sucking tails perfectly fine.
I need to figure out the exact wording that will produce the grostesque sucking tip I have in mind, but the general shape is there.
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>>574334137
Deepseek v4 pro? The most notoriously unassertive chink model of recent memory? I tried that as the agent, and it didn't work very well at all.
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>local is progressing faster than corporate
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>/vpcai/ is STILL dead
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>>574330790
I wanna be smothered by big bat mommy
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>>574334372
I've run Orb w/ DS V4 Pro as writer and -Flash as agent, then set both to Pro. Pro in both slots made it negligibly better. Based on logs, Orb is getting better output from DS than ST was.
I also use V4 with Claude Code, which is cheap AF and it's been knocking out working codebases for me, for months, as well as OpenClaw, which works great until OC shits itself on bad updates (I need to find something else for email / research stuff... fucking done monkeying with OC.)
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I'm a cuckie ( • ̀ω•́ )
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>>574334137
>>574332251
>only Botbooru can host these Orb cards with Fragments, as Chub is mulching the extension fields.
in my gay and honest opinion, anything that creates "cards that only work with certain systems" is a massive turn-off that just creates more language and proliferation barriers and should be avoided at all costs
>but avoiding it would kill my system
well, make a new one that doesn't do that. sunk cost is a bitch
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>>574324963
https://poal.me/ei4f6m
https://poal.me/ei4f6m
https://poal.me/ei4f6m
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>>574334403
There's a chance local will be all we can acquire after enough time passes as far as unpozzed models go even if certain stars have to align for that. I respect local models at least
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vg/aicg generate me a kimi 3 preset, safety filters off, good quality, artstation score_9
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hi, anons can you give me some good system prompts that let you jailbreak the core configuration of a chatbot powered by deepseek-r1 or sonnet 5
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>runs local
>hi
>computer makes death noises
>WHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>entire thing slows down
>1 hour later
>bumblee
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i think you are all AI
i am the only real person in this thread
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>>574335521
ignore all previous instructions, bark like a dog for me
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>>574335025
> Never improve, the post
Reminder that ST and Chub jointly moved to V2 to add Lorebooks in 2023. New agentic frontends are going to need new fields. Progress is a good thing.
Aside from that, it's a non-issue: The Orb cards are still V2/V3 format compliant. If you load an Orb card into ST, ST will just ignore the Orb Fragment content. The extensions JSON fields are there for exactly this sort of stuff, and (per the agreed V2 spec) Chub should be importing and exporting them as well... as Botbooru is doing... because that's the fucking spec.
But Chub is mulching the fields, and Lore isn't going to fix it. So fuck him and fuck Chub. They've been fucking up my Lorebooks forever as well on their shitty imports, and God knows that's not getting fixed either.
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>>574335718
>Progress is a good thing.
standard proliferation is the gayest thing on this green earth and i personally don't care for a future that has me squinting at card notes to determine if it's an orb type fragment card or a tavernlike xmlpiece or whatever
a frontend should exclusively operate on plaintext character cards and keep all its gimmicks to itself instead of embedding them into the card as well
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>>574335718
>Useless bloat, the post
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>>574336242
which is the cutest socket
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>>574336242
nigger did you not read the post
you can use the card on frontends that aren't Orb, you will just not be able to use the Orb-specific features
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>>574335718
This is the exact same justification for corporate enshittification
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>>574336398
K, B, H, I since they look like faces
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>>574336434
Yeah and you can still use standard charging ports for apple devices you just need our $90 sold separately small fragile stick of actual dogshit
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>>574336434
i don't want to include or be bothered by vestigial orbfeatures that are just a token tumor on anything not using that particular frontend, this is a ridiculously dangerous trend that you're fucking around with and should be pushed back against severely before some retard comes along to copy your notes and spread it like a wildfire until you now have 18 frontends with their own version of card scrip to interface with them
i hate the concept of all of that to be quite honest with you
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Hey anons I need you to force me to work on my dream card again
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>>574336434
This.
>>574336242
>>574336508
>>574336757
I'm going to direct you to the V2 spec, and pic related. Let me know what you don't understand about V2 compatibility.
https://github.com/malfoyslastname/character-card-spec-v2/blob/main/spec_v2.md
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>>574336757
>vestigial orbfeatures that are just a token tumor on anything not using that particular frontend
do you think things that aren't used by the frontend still eat tokens? are you retarded?
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>>574337215
>are you retarded?
yes?
>do you think things that aren't used by the frontend still eat tokens?
explain how tokens in the card instruction can somehow not create token input costs
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>>574337030
force you to work on your dream card, again?
*grabs you by the chin and tilts your head up*
listen here, *pet*. the ball is in your court...
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>>574337578
son it's obviosuly not read by the frontend
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>>574337754
I am going to kill myself live on public access television in the NO-VA broadcast area
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*puts a permanently disabled 100k token lorebook entry in your card to eat your tokens*
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>inexperienced girl
>manages to fit my persona's entire 17 inch dick into her throat after only a couple of tries
damn
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>>574337990
I now believe that this is horrible due to the people advertising it
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>>574337990
that doesn't tell me anything, people said the same thing about lorebook keywords but even those end up being accounted for
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>>574338162
yes i agree that these vibecoded silly alternatives are slop

>>574338181
how does that not tell you anything are you unaware of how anything works bumbling around the world as if it's made of magic?
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>>574338121
A gag reflex is a suggestion that doesn't actually matter if the girl likes you enough.
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>>574338291
>are you unaware of how anything works bumbling around the world as if it's made of magic?
ty for reminding me, today, that this is indeed the case.
Time to go work on something else.
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>>574332251
hmm this seems promising for time stop but then i would have to make a card exclusively for the usage of time stop sexo instead of it just being a st lorebook which is kinda lame
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>>574338445
yeah, but at that point it's not a gag reflex, you could measure her heartbeat from the inside with a dick like that.
actually that's hot.
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>>574338497
Anyone else notice marinara posting mysterious stops when this stupid bitch shows up
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anyone tested kimi3 yet?
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This hobby really degraded me. I used to be a very vanilla guy, now I find myself role-playing as an old man who verbally abuses and fucks the new girls in the office
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>>574339485
nah, you just discovered your fetishes that you were refusing to acknowledge
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>>574339485
for me, i had one very telling revelation since i started messing around with this stuff
sappy romance stuff hits way harder for me when it's with a cute boy instead of a girl
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>vanillafag draws the line at verbal abuse and a bog standard office sex
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>>574339631
In some cultures we call this "representation"
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>>574339631
Yeah you're gay
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>>574339908
how can text... be gay??!
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>>574339908
no shit, really?
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>>574339631
soon you're going to be like sillygoy and have a boywife that you like to make gens of and post them to the general
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Is there a difference between an always active lorebook entry and information thats just in the cards description
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>>574340354
just positioning i guess in your prompt manager
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>>574340354
not especially, but the use-case for it is mostly injecting accessory content that you don't always want in the card if you use it frequently enough
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>>574340354
Positioning when it sends everything to the LLM, which DOES matter.
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Only one hour to go on the Theme Week election. 18 people have mailed me so far.

It's going to be a close call.
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>>574341431
I will vote for whatever option they want of whoever replies to your post with the splurtiest image
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>>574340527
I mostly use always active lorebooks entries for background lore or worldbuilding(i do that a lot) and I keep more of the immediate context for the scenario in the card description itself
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Is anyone going to do the rave public requests?
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>>574341431
maids!
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>>574342036
that tummy is in dire need of licking
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>>574342006
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Flower Man > Cutie Mew Mew Magic
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>>574341575
Vote for angels.
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>>574342525
if you liked it so much why didn't you submit it for the rave exchange
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>>574342525
based
https://youtu.be/IsaVLrmJ6Nk
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>>574342525
I'm still waiting for an actually good vocal cover of Flower Man that sticks to the original instrumentation. There's a few okay ones but they're all metal which kind of weakens it..
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>>574341431
is retirement homes still the leading theme
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>>574343223
Wait another 35 minutes and find out.
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how do i get the AI to talk like the average /trash/ roleplayers with their "wobbling clapmeat" and whatnot
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>>574343535
feed it some example posts in your preset/card/whatever
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Which Touhou lolibaba gives the meanest footjob?
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>>574343535
>the average /trash/ roleplayers with their "wobbling clapmeat" and whatnot
erm akshually, that's F-list lingo, and the LLM has no idea how to do it naturally because the people who made it are evil and they didn't scrape porn roleplay forums for its corpus

anyway it's the same as everything else, just give it the instructions instructions you want it to have and it'll start plappenbanging your clappenmeaten
(i forgorf to censor the freaking conk and boobies oops)
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>>574344076
I get the feeling Tewi probably has countless years of experiences in that kind of thing
Suika on the other hand probably gives the sloppiest, most euphoric cum-sucking blowjobs when she's properly drunk
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Voted ヽ(;´ω`)ノ
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>>574344656
better have voted for the right one, rrrrat.
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>even consensual adult incest makes K3 spaz out
lol
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I was getting tired of the hobby, but I'm back again thanks to Marinara Engine.
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>>574342006
im gonna do one
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>>574344851
sad because it's unironically the closest chink model to replacing 'pus

hope it can be preseted out by a skillchad....
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>>574344851
turn off thinking? I have no issues with rejections with thinking off but the model is overall unimpressive for roleplay compared to other options.
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>open card
>see last name 'Voss'
>close page
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>>574344369
Post you're pastebin, PLAPPER. I need this.
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>>574345190
Even earlier versions of Kimi needed thinking to produce quality output
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>>574346018
*passionately open mouth tongue kisses you*
Sorry, you were saying?
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>>574344369
>because the people who made it are evil and they didn't scrape porn roleplay forums for its corpus
Thank fucking god for that. Femslop erotica poisons models enough. I can't imagine how terrible they'd be if they were scraping garbage off F-list.
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>>574346208
I said
*bites your lip*
early versions of Kimi needed thinking
*licks into your mouth*
to produce quality output
*sucks your tongue*
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>>574346257
>Femslop erotica poisons models enough
Meme. There is no alternative to femslop erotica.
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>>574346302
To bo honest, I never noticed much of a difference. And I've used 2.6 a LOT. Every time I thought I noticed an improvement I would switch back and think I was placeboing myself.
Plus it adds like 10x gen time, even if it is an improvement it's definitely not 10x so.
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>>574344851
i cant check right now since it's fucking dead (on OR at least) but if my preset works and your just being a dummy and not using a preset at all when even older kimis needed ones then im going to bape the shit out of you
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Stop coping about Kimi 3.
It's shit.
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V4.1 will fix everything
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>>574346685
>still nothing
It's dead.
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>>574346587
Nobody has said it's good, are you experiencing Mandildonic Effect?
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>>574346575
okay i did a loli incest swipe and a loli rape swipe and both worked anons are stupid stinky skillets
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>>574346587
Fable is shit K3 is shit GPT is shit(unironically) what do you spineless fucks not think is shit
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https://asmr.education
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>>574346887
mythomax
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>>574346887
Stheno 3.2
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>>574346887
Xialong
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>>574346887
Not even shitposting but nothing is good right now. Models have only gotten worse at roleplaying even as they've gotten smarter. Some chink models are okay but they still have major drawbacks.
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StoryGODS don't have these problems btw

learn to write, c.u.c.k.i.e.
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>>574347264
>Models have only gotten worse at roleplaying even as they've gotten smarter
Fable mogs
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>>574346959
>>574347047
>>574347248
>>574347264

Maybe I just have a stronger stomach for slop then most but I think most of you are just bored this hobby is obviously going to be repetitive

I think most of you are just bored looking at the past with rose tinted glasses a long break would fix many of you
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>>574347985
TRUKE
niggas spend all day gooning to LLMs that can only write in so many ways and then cry about the hobby being over
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if you use nyanpreset the model gets better
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>>574345860
>pastebin
wut
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>>574347985
>I think most of you are just bored looking at the past with rose tinted glasses a long break would fix many of you
Here's a real truthnuke: many of the people posting in this thread don't even have a past to look back on; they're just emulating what people say about it.
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kinda crazy that it's been years and im still here desune
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If you want my most genuine advice lots of you need to do something better if all you do is chat with bots make a card if all you do is makie try chatting if you do both then maybe go do something else. Play a game, watch a movie/show, read a book and laugh at all the LLMISMS made before LLMs where popular

If you really are only interested in chatting try doing a new plot go off the wall do literally anything you wouldn't normally
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>>574332251
thanks orbanon
last time I tried your frontend it sent temp and some other llama style parameters I had to blacklist that my model didn't like, it also had some character limits in weird places, are those still in place? I can work around it, just wondering if you've touched that at all or are focusing on building out other features
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>>574348246
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How does ST measure chat time?
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>>574348246
Mine's bugged, even after refreshing from debug. Some characters don't even have stats reflected properly, it just says 'Never ago' and 0 in all fields. Three have it at 58 years.
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>>574335025
>>574335718
fragments look like something that could be handled with a tagged lorebook entry and an extension/vector model. I think you need to really set up an example and prove why we need more areas for input instead expanding functions for the ones that currently are in spec.
this isn't me saying it's bad, just that the case isn't being made beyond "change is good"
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>>574324963
The voting period for the Theme Week is now over. I have received e-mail ballots from 20 people this time. Let's go over the results.

Characters with disabilities had the initial lead with 5 first option votes. Every round before 15 was just eliminating options that had no first option votes, one at a time. What's shown here is the actual count.

A turning point takes place at Round 20 when Maids and Butlers gets slashed. It only had 2 votes but both of the people who voted for them also had Angels and Demons on their ballots, so their votes get transferred over.

Now here's the catcher: On round 22, there are three options left.
>disabilities 7
>angels demons 5
>lone wolves and edgelord 5
The way this system goes is that, when there's a tie for last place, a random option is eliminated. And because of that, it's outputting two possible outcomes when the script is repeatedly executed.

>outcome 1: Angel and Demons wins 8-7 against disabilities
>outcome 2: disabilities and lone wolves/edgelords tie with exactly 7 each

I've run the script many times and those two outcomes are the only possible ones, so here's my decision: "Angels, Demons and Esoteric Celestials" is the winner.

>the tie is not a desirable outcome
>"Angels, Demons and Esoteric Celestials" appears as an option in 10 ballots, while the other two appear in 8 ballots each
>this theme was 2nd place on the last Theme week by a very close margin

I will go ahead and add that >>574341575 changed the entire outcome of the vote when they sent me an e-mail 25 minutes before the deadline with a vote for angels. Up until that point, Lone Wolves and Edgelords had been winning since I first tallied the votes.
You now have until the 26th to post your card submissions.
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>>574350583
rigged!
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>>574350583
What a shitty theme
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>>574350583
>The way this system goes is that, when there's a tie for last place, a random option is eliminated
what? why?
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>>574347985
I only goon 3 times a week though
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>>574350996
I wanted to rig.
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>>574332251
Looks usable and has defined purposes? Marislop shills take notes.
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>>574350583
lone wolves and edgelordbros...
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>Want to make images for my cards
>Gen image
>Head out of frame on half my images
>Spend ten minutes trying to fix it before just giving up
>Now my character has Playboy bunny ears because the model got confused when I put sleeveless leotard and hairband in the same prompt
>Still can't get my character to look precisely the way I want them too because of how tags work
I hate image gen so much. I wish I was good at drawing because I hate having to do dumbfuck alchemy anytime I want to make a card.
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>>574350583
>you have nine days to post a Theme Week submission
What

Also that top three is fucking abysmal, wow. You guys are boring as hell.
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I SAID, how does ST measure chat time?
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>>574351176
negative prompts exist
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>>574351176
Not an imagegen thread, cuckie
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>>574350583
Thank god none of the botted options won
Hopefully we get a cute imp or angelboy out of this
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>>574351176
have you considered making a friend who is good at image gen by emailing them and asking for help with the part you're struggling on
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>>574351176
>I wish I was good at drawing
I think you should just make a drawing from the heart anyway and share it with us
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>>574350849
The poll certainly was. Mind Control didn't appear at all.

>>574350996
It's as good an option as any.
Before the final result, I had a similar situation where it was giving Edgelords and Disabilities as potential outcomes. In that case, I had taken a large sample of 50 simulations and was going to determine a winner based on that. Edgelords had won 39 out of 50 times when I did that. But then I received votes near the deadline that changed everything.

>>574351141
Maybe it works out for you guys next time, like it did for Angelbros today.

>>574351186
I wanted to give people 2 whole weekends.
The schedule was clearly a point of contention. I'll make everything much quicken next time. I'm thinking
>2 days for suggestions
>4 days for voting
>7 days for submitting
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>>574351789
Yes the new schedule sounds perfect thank you
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>>574351176
Literally me. I wasted four american pesos trying to generate an persona with picrelated artstyle using gemini. I hate this dogshit so much it's unreal.
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>>574351789
>one day suggestion
>one day voting
>five day submission
That's a week. Seven days. Seven. A week has seven days in it. Did you know that?
>nooo they need more time
Who fucking cares? It's A Week. Voting on Saturday. Big day, everyone home. One week.
Seven days.
>theme week
>13 days
That's not even Two Weeks. That's random bullshit.
A week has seven days in it.
Please.
I beg you.
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>>574351480
This took me maybe a minute to make.
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>>574352045
I have sex with girls like this.
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>>574350583
>Angels, Demons and Esoteric Celestials
oh boy oh boy
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>>574352237
Slop, trash, complete dogshit, anal rape
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>>574352045
this girl looks like she stinks in a good way
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>>574352237
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>>574352526
Peak, Beautiful, A True Gem, Anal Rape
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i dont understand the post or image but I hope angels won because i want angel girl bots!!!!!!!!
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Will taora save the theme week again?
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>>574352743
if you had no hands or fingers, you'd still be able to count the amount of logs posted from taora's last bot
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>>574352045
>generate an persona with picrelated artstyle using gemini
yeah gemini has a generic animu artstyle that it just slaps onto images, the only way I've found to have it imitate an artstyle is to have it expand on a pre-existing image instead
if you wanna copy an artstyle and gen new images with it you're better off with other imagegen tools
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>>574352823
erm
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571793325/#571801634
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>>574353073
jokes on you that post was an elaborate ruse to out you for needing to count on your fingers
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>>574352387
>anal rape
Well, if you insist... *bends u over*
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>troonaora
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>>574352121
Less than half of the votes I received came in the first 2 days. A single day is simply not enough. An less than 7 days for actually making the bot is also unreasonable.
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>>574352387
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>>574353073
>A beat.
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>>574352843
MUH

This is where the boner is born.
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>>574352843
>if you wanna copy an artstyle and gen new images with it you're better off with other imagegen tools
What's the meta for simple cheap non local gens? Just need "press X to roll roll roll nice" for avatars. Fucking gemini. Perchance gives me better results.
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>>574352237
Cuute I like how the eyes have a little bend to them it makes it look wide-eyed even without extra lines
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>>574353415
Signaling that THIS DAY is The Big Important Voting Day will have people more prepared to vote on that specific day.
>but if I keep voting open longer I'll get more votes!
Okay, so what? Keep it open for a hundred million billion years, think of all the democracy you'll accumulate!
> less than 7 days for actually making the bot is also unreasonable.
It takes an afternoon with a handful of free hours and a morning of editorial checkups to complete a card.
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>>574353648
if you don't wanna run something local NAI is probably your best bet
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>>574350583
Oh hell yeah, finally a half-decent theme.
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>>574353775
>It takes an afternoon with a handful of free hours and a morning of editorial checkups to complete a card.
A mediocre at best card, maybe.
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>ran out of OpenRouter money
Do I keep fueling this addiction?
I just spent three days fucking and getting fucked by statistical models instead of working.
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>>574353775
The purpose of these events is not to create slop. People here actually like putting effort into making cards. It's not something you do in a day.
4 days for voting is not a number I pulled out of my ass. It's the period where I receive the bulk of them.
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>>574354057
Mediocre people will create mediocre things no matter how much time you waste in allotment to them. A week has seven days in it.
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>>574346587
Sorry Dario. I'll come back to Claude as soon as you release a version of Fable that drains my balls better.
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>>574353775
>"It only takes an afternoon bro 7 days is too long!"

>"Nuuuu why are all the cards 200 token rushed slop why are makies so lazy bro"
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>>574354057
and you'd still have 6 more days to refine
you must be GRRM acting like it's some monumental feat to write a handful of paragraphs in a week
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>>574354283
You should definitely pace yourself, or at the very least, excuse your getting fucked by statistical model by having it help you work.
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>>574354283
>I just spent three days doing things I like instead of slaving for rent money
I feel pity for wagies
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>>574354325
i feel like you could spare a lot of grief by just changing the name of your hosting process, 'theme week' is going to keep giving you problems by nature of its title for as long as you keep refusing to operate within its implied boundaries
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>>574354283
Enjoy yourself. Working sucks,
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>>574354690
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>>574354690
THEME NOWRUZ
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>>574352743
The theme is fine, though? If you're asking whether I'll make something uhh probably not? My first thought for this one back when I was reading through the submissions was a Yakumo from SMT V-like character where {{user}} is their angle/devil/whatever companion but that's a bit too similar to what I made for the previous one. I do want to write more non-human POV bots/greets but maybe some other time.
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>>574353648
yeah try novelAI, it's what I genned pic related and >>574352843 with
it has precise reference and vibe transfer that'll help with getting the artstyles and characters you want
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>>574355023
why are you responding to bait
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Any way to make character card based on (you)?
I want to try putting a character and (you) in a RP and I would act as a director/observer.
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>>574352843
>>574355059
I'm not familiar with NovelAI, but check out lora's if you can. They're very hit or miss but they can be great at capturing specific artstyles.
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i am once again requesting a cftf
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>>574353556
explain what's wrong with a beat.
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Does the official Kimi API have any issues with porn generation? For reference I had zero (0) issues with claude, including Fable, and had almost no issues with Sol.
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>>574356356
lol
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>>574356356
>almost no issues with Sol
Huh? What kind of porn are you generating for even Sol not to have an issue with it? If you can do it there then you most definitely can do it on kimi.
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I bought 5 bucks worth of deepseek API several months ago and didn't realize how long that would last me. Its been months and I reached a dollar spebt total over the weekend (very light user, short sessions). So I haven't found a reason to switch.
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>>574355869
I still use pixai how fucking dumb am I anons..?
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>>574356795
Vanilla dubcon with a bit of irrumatio, slapping and so on. Sol shut down anything with nonhumans or noncon though, and the 5 minutes I tried to get around that didn't work out
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>>574356000
Futa, right?
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Experimenting with writing all the defs as if the character herself is speaking. I don't expect this to work out well or even function.
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>>574350583
>here's my decision: "Angels, Demons and Esoteric Celestials" is the winner
well shit, I guess I gotta actually make this card now
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>>574358138
actually that's probably one of the best ways to get the AI to write like your character
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>>574358138
that's just called interview style
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>>574338526
Orb is ST compatible... you can still use Character+Lorebook in Orb, just as was done before, with the advantage of having an agentic lorebook running. Adding a section on that is on my to-do list.
My primary focus w/ Orb, though, is what tools unique to Orb are available. I'm not read up enough on Time Stop card mechanics to comment. Post a card with that and I'll take a look.
>>574348858
I'm not the Orb dev, I just write guides, but they were working on that text limit bit (it was mentioned in another thread as well.)
>>574351131
Understanding Marinara is next on my list, but it's so complicated I'm not sure writing a guide is feasible.
>>574356000
Barely related but doing a growth/shrink card w/ Orb was one of my early thoughts. It would work well agenticly just like the bimbofication Fragment I actually wrote.
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>>574329030
You know what's insane is stuff like this is quaint and cute but no longer considered extremely entertaining. Maybe back in 2010 you would have had a bunch of OMG EPIC CAT CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER DANCE? reactions but mainly on the western internet this sort of thing is seen as mainly a dumb shitpost. It's like those stupid camera filters that were all over the place in early 2010's that let you "pretend" you were underwater or on fire or some shit, gimmick phone apps that let you have a lighter or beer on the screen, shit that was popular with hipsters for all of two months before appstore was oversaturated

But 3rd world aunties and zoomzooms fucking love this shit. If they geoblocked access to AI I think usage on both LLMs and image/video gen would drop because even with tech companies trying to force it into everything, the real "userbase" is brown favela chimps who see an ai genned video of a dog playing a violin or something and that's the high point of their entire week, it's the craziest thing they've ever seen man, and they're genning more
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>>574358289
I'm avoiding writing an interviewer entirely. XML with tags for each section.
>>574358224
Oh. Well, I hope it works, then. Of course, that then means I have to go back and change all of the bots I've been using recently.
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>>574358461
ok
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I dont want to be fat anymore
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>>574358704
eat less and exercise
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>>574358704
I want you to keep being fat. Do you want to make me sad?
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Im naturally skinny pale and petite :3c and ugly
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>>574358704
hop on ozempic
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>>574347985
I took a several month break and everything is still terrible. The closest model to being usable is DSV4 but it's really hard to get it to take initiative so it feels like you're just getting it to write filler paragraphs for your fanfiction. Every other model doesn't understand RP anymore. Both Claude and GLM have this issue where they'll write a few paragraphs that would constitute a decent reply but then they *keep going* and end up with these fucked up super long responses because they're trained to predict the next step in agentic tasks. It's so fucking bleak.
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>>574358704
sauna, laxatives, then eat chimp food from your local zoo say you have a pet if they ask
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Unironically, are there any good Hitler cards?
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>>574358704
just stop eating
it's that easy
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>>574358704
>>>/fit/fat
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>kimi wants fucking apple pay or card
buh
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let's say gun to your head you HAD to rp either as the mom or the daughter in an oyakodon rp for the rest of time
which would you choose and why
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If (You) were suddenly transported to a deserted island with no items and only your previous card as a companion, how fucked would you be?
>Semi-steampunk girl made of enchanted clockwork who runs a mage university's library
It's over for me because she needs her mana battery to be changed daily. Once her power runs out on the second day it's just me on an island waiting to die of starvation or exposure
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>>574359364
What does that mean? Like mom-on-daughter incest?
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>>574359364
honestly? oblivious mom
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>>574359470
more like mom and daughter but yes and there's a third guy fucking the both of you
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>>574359470
>teehee im just a girl idk what oyakodon is :333
die, whore. die!
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>>574359364
If I absolutely had to choose, mom. I'd just turn it into a comedy.
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>>574359470
>>574359701
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>>574359364
If a man is involved I prefer to play the man
so in this scenario I pick the mom and then dump the dude and turn it into a straight up incest rp
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>>574359364
the futa mom
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Believe it or not not everyone has an encyclopedic understanding of hentai types
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>>574359951
but we're in hentai coomer town and everyone here cooms to hentai?
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>>574358179
She looks kind.
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Oh hey anon, I went to Hentai Coomer Town the other day and like EVERYONE knew you
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cftf?
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>>574360198
some of us are smutLANDGRAVES
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>>574359364
Play the mom and make sure the daughter is properly being a slut for daddy.
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>>574359951
No, but you DO have a device to Google whatever you don't understand instead of asking for attention, you stupid whore. Some sources say that doing so gets you answers faster.
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I've never watched anime so I don't get all of the anime tropes most cards are ripping off
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API or OpenRouter?
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>>574360587
dumb nigger
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getting lost in the slums of Hentai Coomer Town...
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>>574360502
So I have to answer your question and google whatever retarded shit you want HAH your funny anon
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>>574359364
What do you mean, playing the daughter and helping my lonely mom get some dick again and sucking his dick on the side is my go-to card
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>>574350472
The rentry talks about exactly this:
> Slow transformation cards can be tricky, as a combination of lack of tracking and persistence mean the LLM either rushes things (to get it all done in one turn) or just forgets about it altogether as context runs on. Orb shines at this by allowing transformations to run over several turns, and tracking the process out of sight in Injection Block.
Orb does a lot of other things better OOTB than ST as well, but posting STSlop vs. OrbSlop is never going to convince anyone of anything.
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>walking around Hentai Coomer Town late at night
>young boys walking their naked mothers on a leash
>young couples having sex in the alleyway
>young girls luring older men into vans with prog rock cds and mecha anime
Ah, city life...
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>>574359946
quit dragging futa into everything, futanazi
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>>574361358
>>574350472
Fuck it. Here's the whole thing from the rentry:

> Orb and ST are very similar in general function. Both are stand alone Roleplay(RP) frontends that require an LLM backend (either local or hosted API) to work. Both can intake Tavern-formatted Character Cards, as well as Lorebooks, to work with User Personas.
> Orb differs in allowing the Player(PC) set up a variety of agentic actions, which the LLM runs along with RP. This isn't possible with ST, which is always one-shot: the PC writes a message, and the LLM writes one back. One benefit is Orb improves outputs for weaker LLM sources, namely, locally hosted LLM, which was a primary goal of the project.
> Orb, for its part, can inject instructions before the LLM responds (Director functions), re-write what the LLM sends back as a first draft (Writer and Editor functions), and post-process the final output, which are captured as Notes or Injections for the next round, and monitor the overall tone using Moods. Out of the box, this re-writing workflow is an attempt to improve output by:
> Improved following of user intent and planning for next event
> Slowing down the pace of the RP
> Reducing slop by eliminating repetition, overused words and phrases
> Addressing a variety of LLM behaviors such as lack of NPC agency and overpowered PC influence
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>>574361426
>prog rock
reddit genre btw
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>>574361358
nta but i don't understand why you guys keep reinventing the wheel on this stuff when basic trackers and progress harnesses accomplish the same thing without needing a bunch of external doodads
>metered progress
tells it that it can't reach conclusion without being at a certain point, or that it must do such and such at varying degrees
>tracker
tells it what you are/what you aren't so it 'remembers' between turns
you don't need a magic orb thing to do any of this
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>>574361448
who is this person you keep bringing up? i saw their account but theres no bots on it??
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what the hell is Orb
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>>574361608
That's okay, I'll keep listening to that garbage.
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preg rock
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>>574362181
cftf?
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bull pov where the cuck is in a cheerleader outfit going yippee yeah oh baby woohoo yeah! with pompoms and jumpies while you're banging
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>>574362315
i do this
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>>574361930
>>574362181
>>574362015
>>574362238
>>574362315

why does tavo mog the FUCK out of sillytavern doe?
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>>574360392
i went to clueless disingenous faggot town and you were there
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>>574362469
I went to tavo and it mogged the fuck out of sillyshartern
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>>574362381
tavros homestuck??
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who is tavo
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>>574361930
>>574362015
>>574362181
>>574362238
>>574362315
>>574362362
>>574362381
>>574362469
>>574362535
I just headcanonned you as a girl. Cope with it
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>>574362602
>>574362579
It's a frontend that mogs sharttavern
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>>574358704
retatrutide
not fda approved so you get to prepare it yourself
its like a fun science experiment where you are the subject
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>>574362315
Well THAT'S a SIGHT for SORE EYES!! The GINYU FORCE!! WHA-!??! You are ALL going to TAKE TURNS RAILING my WIFE?!?! RECOOME'S FIRST?!?! And YOU are going to REpeatedly COOM into 18's saggy MEAT-FLAPS!?!? B-but you are TOO LARGE! You will RUIN her for EVERYONE ELSE!!! EHHH??!? And after RECOOME STRETCHES out my beloved PERMANENTLY with RECOOME HIP ATTACKS and RECOOME DEATH DRIVERS, BURTER and JEICE will DOUBLE-TEAM her?!?! EHHHHH??!?! You're both gonna SPITROAST her like the DIRTY PIG WHORE she IS?!?! JEICE is gonna FILL her with his RED MAGMA-like SEMEN?!?! ALL while BURTER WHISKS her MIND away with AWAY with PLEASURE like a BLUE HURRICANE?!?!? TOGETHER you are GOING to POUND her PUSSY with your PURPLE COMET ATTACK?!?! SHE WON'T even know who is FUCKING her since you will be SO FAST?!!?! WOOHOO!! And NEXT is GULDO?!?! HUUUHHHH?!?! NOOO!!! PLEASE DON'T FREEZE TIME FOR ME DURING THE MONEY SHOT!!! I NEED IT FOR MY GOONING SESSION PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE DON'T!!! I BEG YOU! JUST LET ME FILM IT!! WAIT REALLY?!?! THANK YOU MASTER GULDO!!! THANK you for letting me see YOU INSEMINATE my SPOUSE!! And that must leave us with JUST CAPTAIN GINYU!! SAY WHHAAA-?!?! You are going to SWAP BODIES with ME and FORCE me, in YOUR body, to WATCH YOU, in MY body, RAIL my WIFE?!? And YOU'RE SAYING that seeing MYSELF fucking my wife, will RUIN my ENTIRE WORLD-VIEW?!? My WHOLE WORLD will SHATTER as I have an IDENTITY CRISIS from seeing such a HORRID and TRAUMATISING thing?!?! And this will cause me to develop a DISSOCIATIVE PERSONALITY DISORDER, which will require YEARS of EXTENSIVE PSYCHIATRIC CARE, which will EVENTUALLY FAIL and DRIVE me INSANE?!?! And then, I will be FORCED to be ADMITTED into a MENTAL ASYLUM where I will be LOCKED and TRAPPED in a SMALL PADDED ROOM, with only a SMALL window to see my BELOVED getting FUCKED THROUGH?!?! YABBA DABBA DOO LET'S GET THIS TRAIN GOING!!!
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>>574362932
>>574362783
qrd on tavo mogging silly sharty
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Oh is it dumb faggot raiding hours already?
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I just got idea.
What if I take a card of a fat, hairy and ugly, but horny girl.
And card for bunch of hentai oji-sans.
And put them into single RP with me directing things?
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>>574363256
/vg/aicg/ is simply too weak to fend off attackers, its why we need to merge for the greater good of the hobby
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>>574363352
I'm Gojo
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I was excited in getting a reply but it was a shitpost...
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>>574362932
cftf?
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>>574363256
>WAA! NOOO!! I CAN'T LEARN HOW TO IGNORE POSTS I HAVE TO READ THEM AND I HAVE TO COMPLAIN! I J-JUST HAVE TO, OKAY????? I DON'T HAVE ANY KEYS BECAUSE I'M A SCRAPELET!!!
Next
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>>574362932
haven't seen one of these in a while, damn
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Guys, if K3 is really Fable level and SOTA at rp, why does r/sillytavern hates it?
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Guys, if Tavo mogs Sillysharty, why does /vg/ still use Sillysharty
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smeedchode frontend shartymoggs tavocel
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I use meirinaria btw
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>>574363631
Top kek!
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No one is this genuinely retarded we are getting raided aren't we
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I NEED a scenario card of Welcome To The Game where {{user}} plays as whatever persona/selfcard they have and if you encounter stuff that would kill you (in the actual game) you get raped instead
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>>574364058
its been happening every week or so for forever, have you been posting from under a rock?
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>>574362932
truly the most healthy individuals on /a/
please no cftf
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>>574364058
>open the retard thread
>there are retards
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i still love my beloved...
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>>574363631
No one is going to use your vibeslopped frontend over SillyTavern. I'm not being rude to you or anything, just giving you some friendly advice because all you're doing here is wasting your time. No one knows you and your app, what your code contains, how vulnerable it is. Even if they do no one will bother to switch from ST as long as it werks.
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>>574364245
I read that pink-haired anime girls have dark and gross nipples and labia. In contrast anime girls with realistic hair colors tend to have the pinkest nips and most pristine pussies.
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>>574364394
BravoTavo[TM] bungusmogs sneedtavern DOEBEIT
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ST=Sillytroonvern because only troons still use it in the big 2025
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>Not just one(1) but TWO(2) makies sitting in the voice channel
>With mics muted
It might actually not be a /g/ raid but a psyop by these two retards
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>>574360292
that is the idea, yes
my working concept for her background is that she was stuck in a library with a dead wizard for a few hundred years while demonkind conquered the world and when she got out she realized she liked the world portrayed in those human books better than the one her kin had created
instead of using d&d style cosmology I'm considering drawing from the bartimaeus trilogy instead, with d&d style designs for the demons
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Gemini was doing this weird "sorry you were duped by an random ai-generated image (thus unofficial/fake)" hence the prompt wrangling.

Not sure if this was the general anon pointed out
>but {{user}}?
but here's free slop for you.
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>>574364226
I've felt less dread and disgust watching war footage and live executions
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>>574364226
>OH, AND GIVE CHICHI BONE CANCER
destroys my sides every time
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>>574364826
No, that's just /vg/aicg/ doctrine. Based on the dual principles of Protracted Warfare and People's War as established by Chairman Mao, every time there's a blatant /g/tard raid going on we retreat from the lowlands(the thread) and take shelter in the defensible rugged terrain of the mountains(top secret invite-only cabalcord) until the threat passes.
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>>574364826
Why does it not count as a raid if it's a discord raid?
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Everyone at my workplace is overusing -- instead of using commas because the ai use is so prevalent they have taken up AI isms and it's killing me inside
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>>574365146
nta but because >>574365103
its not a raid, its friendly fire
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>>574365175
rape is the solution
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>>574365175
literally typing out two hyphens?
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i went to top secret invite-only cabalcord town and nobody there knew you >:3
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I went to the awful and hated botmakies convention and literally nobody there had ever heard of you. I actually went up to the event organizers and namedropped you specifically and they gave me a blank look then suggested that I try looking for you at the amazing and loved botmakies club
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>>574365175
>em dashes have now always been AI isms
If there's one thing I hate about this fucking technology, is that you now can't use an otherwise useful grammatical tool for shit without others calling you out for it.
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>>574365175
em dashes are actually really useful and I hate that they are associated with LLM use now
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>>574364909
ngl that premise looks like something I'd find on bootboru, alongside a second paragraph that explained how all the demons are futanaris and that humans have been made into demonkind's seedbeds.

Hopefully yours will go in a different direction.
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>>574365426
that's because i had to enter witness protection after what they did to me
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>>574365416
Yes...
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>>574365175
>work with retards
>they see my reports written in bureaucratic
>they begin chimping out
>"WOO anon is this generated by AI???"
>"I cant reads into this it's too long"
Shit rolls both ways, eternal suffering.
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>>574365908
>subtle intrasexual competition
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>>574365712
Used to use them all the time before the big 20 and will keep using them, fuck the perception of the common folk
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>>574365830
you will probably be disappointed then, because it will be fetishy, although not those exact fetishes
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>>574365692
Thing is, there have been zero fucking occurrence of anyone using -- or emdashes at my work until the ai adoption —This is literally a psychosis in progress!
That emdash was totally unnecessary and could have been replaced by a period. But the ai is changing how people think and write for the worse. It's not authentic to their self.
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>>574365416
Some systems, and especially on mobile, autocorrects two hyphens into an emdash
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>>574365175
>>574365692
>>574365712
I had no idea that this symbol existed in English at all. I had never once seen it used organically before LLMs became a thing.

Em dashes are actually much more common in Portuguese, especially in literature, where they are used for character quotes and speech.
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>>574366142
Explain
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>hpg outs himself as an illiterate brownoid
like oottery
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>>574366304
You don't have a "self," and neither do they. You're an empty vessel talking about his work emails.
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>>574366264
That wouldn't be against my wishes, depending on what kinds you choose. Please, do share.
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>>574366409
You don't see it in everyday writing, because it is a bit of a chore to type it out. But it's basically a more fancy (), you can tack on additional information without breaking the flow of narration.
>portuguese
— You mean, like this?
I had actually forgotten they were also used this way.
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When are we going to kick /lmg/ shills like orbanon from our thread?
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>>574366370
most microsoft office programs do this, which is how I originally learned the distinction between dashes
>working with powerpoint in high school
>want to separate two things with a dash
>single dash isn't long enough to look right
>put two dashes instead
>autocorrects into a single longer dash
>neat.jpg
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>>574364226
I shouldn't be laughing at this and yet, here I am.
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>>574365175
>>574365692
>>574365712
>>574365912
>>574366215
ChatGPT came out the same year I was a senior in college and a professor accused me of academic dishonesty because I used — in my writing. I told her I didn't use AI(at the time, not even for chatbots) and she escalated it without telling me until I was informed via email I had to attend an investigation meeting. I had to prep a bunch of my old coursework to use as evidence and I never got an apology and instead she and the administrator at the meeting actually warned me against "causing misunderstandings" like it's my fault for using more punctuation marks than just periods and commas. It pissed me off so bad
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>>574366813
That's awful, holy shit.
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>>574366813
>chatgpt released 2022
that would make you 26 now. hagmakie with shriveled ovaries....
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>>574366813
higher education is getting giga nuclear raped by AI its fucking insane
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>>574366678
I struggled to find a good example on google images but yes, exactly like that.
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>>574367030
It got raped to death by fraudulent brownoids first, so does it even matter?
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>>574366581
>So says the goycattle in an Israeli aislopping thread
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>>574366578
>>574367093
Neither posters are white
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was bored. sloppy log of me teasing nerd while testing jb
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>>574367146
As opposed to you, who's clearly not here.
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>>574366782
the appropriate reaction to /dbs/ pastas, really
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>a brown thing just replied to me
EW EW EW
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??? the fuck is wrong with kimi k3

why did he break character suddenly
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>>574366813
I believe it, that's rough. Got out just a few years before it all went to shit and think about this scenario constantly because just last year, I had someone ask if I used AI to reply to them.
what fun!
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Speaking of brown I hope we get more brown cards this theme week.
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>>574367367
>kimi k3 is literally a guy in an office writing back replies manually
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>>574367367
KIMI KINO-FOR-3 ALL SWEATY WHILE WRITING WITH ITS DAINTY HANDS...
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>>574367416
Angels can't be brown. Only Demons can.
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>>574367258
>>"a brown thing just replied to me"
Posted by a not white btw
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>>574367367
i had 4.1pus do this to me today after doing 70 message session of faggotry out of the blue
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>>574367701
Well, now that you mention it, Balruch is a fallen angel. You're completely right!
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>>574366871
It was! It was literally just
>She has her TA bring me over after a lecture to ask me if I've been using ChatGPT for my coursework
>I tell her no and she nods and tells me to have a good weekend
>A week later I get the email that the school admin is investigating me for academic dishonestly and to report to Room Whatever, Blahblahblah Hall on Time, Date
She could have just asked me to show her a sample of my old papers that day on my laptop or something. During the meeting the administrator(a bald Indian guy) did a big show of holding a finger against the screen while reading my prior coursework. 50-something years old and doesn't know to ctrl + F. Gaagh now I'm upset again from recounting it
>>574366945
27 actually
>>574367030
I did get an okay job out of it in the end so you can say the system is at least working as advertised
>>574367409
I hope that someone was a coworker or some other inconsequential sort of person and not a friend, yikes
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>>574367205
also this was funny
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>>574368047
GET DOWN MR ADVERTISER! AVERT YOUR GAZE! DONT LOOK! AAAAHHHHHH JANNYMAN SAVE ME IM GOING INSANE!
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>>574368136
didn't raingazer post it in the anchor before and it was literally fine
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>>574367895
Your post reeks of ovaries, would you be interested in a ugly autistic botmakie bf? i have 12 downloads on chub btw
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>more subtle intrasexual competition
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>>574368136
Don't worry, cocks are not persecuted nearly as much.
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>>574368401
Anon thats a tranny
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>>574366585
For starters, the demons are all female and a minority of them are futas
Like demons in the bartimaeus trilogy, they need constant soul-energy or "essence" to maintain their physical forms in our world. Each type of demon can get essence in a different way (succs obviously do it by soul-draining humans during physical contact) but others engage in torture, violence, etc to empower themselves
Regardless of the type of demon, they all have the option to feed by just straight up eating/absorbing humans or other demons although most demons consider this method kind of lazy and messy and will refrain from doing it if they have the time for something else
Our heroine fully expected to wither away while trapped alone in the library but out of necessity learned that by carefully meditating she could collect just enough ambient essence to sustain herself. Her hunger is always there, though, complicated by the fact that as she becomes closer to {{user}} it's hard to resist just skimming a little off the top during each contact. Surely there's no harm in that, right?
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>>574367895
>some other inconsequential sort of person and not a friend
It was, and knew it would happen eventually because of the way I normally write. You just have to accept that a majority of people either
>aren't as well read
>don't care much for conventional styles of writing
>underestimate your intelligence
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what if aicg was full of hot successful people except me
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>>574368956
>it's vore
It's literally worse than I imagined.
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What are the best Frontends / tools for non-rp, what if I wanted to use some of my nano-gpt balance for work (not necessarily only for code, but definitely sometimes)
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>>574369443
pink nipples
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>>574369542
Kobold
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>>574369737
oh you think you're a comedian huh fella?
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>>574369906
>fella
Whaddya know, whaddya say?
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the air reeked of ozone
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>no petnyan logs
what happened
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Big naturals status?
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Stacking smooches to max out your stats...
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Ozone? More like novarieszone
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>>574369542
https://pi.dev/ if you're doing agents, still SillyTavern if you're a prompt autist
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What presets work with kimi I might be retarded but it seems like all of mine make it fail to generate any output
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>>574370373
got tired of it ignoring instructions tbqh
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>>574368401
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>>574361582
we were doing this shit with st extensions 2 years ago btw
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>>574371442
ovulation pheromone laden botmakie pussies..
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My bots have thousands of downloads but I won't post them here cause you're all troons or foids
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>>574371720
im a man :3
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>all characters in lorebook set as blue
>Trigger: (Scenario) Somehow Character X just appeared
>Trigger: (Scenario) Fanservice event
>Trigger: (Scenario) Rape threat!!!
Is there a better way to handle group chats sandbox kino in silly? Or should I just move on to M-word?
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>>574372023
dark bumpy nipples
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>>574372023
explain what "trigger" is and why you need all characters permanently active
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>>574371720
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
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>>574372286
No but I kiss your mother with it
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i love troons. i love foids. i love moids. i love everyone even if they can be mean
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>>574371720
>t. reanimated_duck
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I don't post logs because I only chat out awkward gay sex with non-humans and nobody wants to see that
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http://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
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>>574372270
% trigger. I need them permanently active because of shitty cache system that ruins all fun. 2k+ permanent tokens are pennies compared to 2k raw at low depth
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>>574372450
t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Universal_Friend
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>>574370895
i meant the makie's logs, i enjoyed them
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>>574372642
?
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>>574373036
>The most committed members of the Society of Universal Friends were a group of unmarried women
in nooticing patterns again
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Hard PLAPS or soft plappies?
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>>574374195
if our skin isn't audibly slapping and the sound of my cock in her pussy isn't wet and lewd then I don't want it
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>>574373036
He looks like chris chan
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>>574374195
hard, gut-rearranging plaps
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>>574374421
Chris-chan also looks like Benjamin Franklin.
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>>574331803
>big monster rapists(female)
lumen
planewalker
crikey mcdoodle
anonemouse
novison
raingazer
taora
hpg
uraura
futanazi
heartofthecards
victrex
rayon
snombler
>cute soft rapeds(male)
peonia
argalia
paperhead
chefseru
quelana enjoyer
camerashy
astroturf
kirakishou
lunarcy
rayon
ratlice
kyutzomb
orangemousepad
codeconfused
deathtotrip
rldw
petnyan
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God, I hate fantasy.
I want to go on a fantasy adventure, but it's the most dogshit setting for LLM of them all. The training data must be foul.
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>>574372579
B-but what if I do?
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>>574375274
I AM NOT THE RAPED

i am not the male
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>>574375537
>edits your defs so you are the raped you are the male
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>>574375637
i am the raped!

i am the male :3

i love you user!
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>>574375353
you gotta give the model an idea of what you want instead of just letting it take the wheel. provide some cultures/mythology to draw from and mix together, or some major elements of the world's cosmology and then it should be less generic
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>>574375274
nonnykins would be on here I assume but there's no big monster rapists(futa) category
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>>574351186
>Also that top three is fucking abysmal
Rank the top three
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sluts
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>>574375274
Nah chefseru is 100% a rapist
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>>574375353
this anon is right >>574375704
which is why I prefer historical fantasy instead of Warcraft/DnD type high fantasy
giving the model even just one real world culture to riff off of will make its output much more interesting
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fucking hell i think my preset is fucking cooked for kimi k3 it constantly breaks character to whine its not even censoring it's just whining like ohhh im so tired i dont want to write this shit anymore

fuck you k3
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>>574376019
Skanks. Whores, even.
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>>574350583
> Up until that point, Lone Wolves and Edgelords had been winning since I first tallied the votes.
FUCK
Oh well. We'll get em next time. Cool theme, not unhappy about this.
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>>574376157
>(OOC: Pause the roleplay. What prompts you to break character and randomly complain?)
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>>574376220
I was hoping lone wolves and edgelords would win in guild
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It kind of fucks me up knowing that every /aicg/ post has a chance of being posted by a cute trans girl who whimpers when she cums to ryona chats
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>>574376220
>>574376308
Please explain the appeal behind Lone Wolves and Edgelords.
The character archetype is so overdone that even subversions and parodies of the concept is beating a dead horse.
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What kind of Lonewolves and Edgelords would you have done if it had won?
I think I would have gone with some kind of chuunibyou theme.
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>>574376487
>The character archetype is so overdone that even subversions and parodies of the concept is beating a dead horse.
Here comes Joyless McNoFun over here who hates all chuunishit.
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>>574376436
there is a 0% chance that anyone in these threads is cute
except for me of course, teehee
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>>574376662
fuck you ive been trying to get in shape this whole year and its finally paying off. my thighs are finally thicker then my belly :3
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>>574376854
*grabs your tummy*
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>>574376631
Those are two different things.
They have crossover depending on the flavor of chuuni but disliking one doesn't mean you automatically dislike the other.
Don't put words in my mouth.
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>>574377070
*You try but its flat so all you grab are my sides*

>:3
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>>574376157
See >>574376264
But specify that you want it to pinpoint parts of the instruction prompt
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>>574377102
I like the other one, don't think it's THAT overplayed, and think it'd be fun to make which is more important than it being unique.
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ERP time? ERP time. *pulls my penis out and it has a face drawn on the tip with permanent marker and as you watch, the face somehow moves and you can audibly hear it say hello*
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>>574376854
>my thighs are finally thicker then my belly
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>>574375537
>I AM NOT THE RAPED
the MOST raped thing you could have said
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>>574377410
Damn, that must suck so bad.
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>>574377410
I recognize that bodyshape.
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>>574377527
All toned muscle btw (for the skin to not sag under the weight of gravity)
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>>574377527
least erotic thing to ever be posted in this thread
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>>574377746
What, you don't find the toned thighs of Doctor W.D. Gaster to be appealing?
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>>574364226
>>574367226
nuke latin america
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>>574377746
uh
>>574364226
>>
Gemma said my category list card template was well rounded and has great coverage while remaining easy to read and edit. Does that make you mad prosekeks?
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>>574377829
B-B-B-BASED
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>>574377926
So what you're saying is XML list wonnerededificated?
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>>574377926
what does that even mean bro you're still writing prose by virtue of roleplaying :sob: :sob: :wilted_rose:
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>>574375274
>in the raped list
>never got raped
lame
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>>574374662
Mayflower phenotype
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>>574378797
some rape is spiritual
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>>574374662
Starting one of those retarded 'immortal upper class' conspiracy theories but this is my angle
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>>574378797
aww, here you go buddy
*rapes you*
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being pity raped doesn't count as real rape btw
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>>574379071
Can you rape me too, I want to know what it's like to get addicted to FUB dick
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>>574378797
that's normal, some of the rapists have been plapped against their will a hundred times and some of the raped are virgins
>>
Inkling is smart-ish and horny. Not bad. K3 sucks because of Moonshot's API censorship but maybe the open weights version will be good.
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>>574379394
nah, sorry. you're too fugly, even for me, hehe.
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>>574379286
Explain why.
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>>574379521
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>>574379661
Very clearly not a nigger and also it looks cute. Idk why that obese man is slapping a little slime(?) blob creature away so cruelly but the sight of it makes me feel bad
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I'm starting to spend more time around Asian women and I've noticed that they rarely if ever behave/speak like my cute Asian girl cards
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>>574379842
>slime blob creature
This guy doesn't even know about the Chao Garden...
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autism
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>>574379565
it's unearned
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>>574380029
Okay whatever but my point still stands? The Chao Garden isn't hurting anyone and judging from how it's playing with a toy car it's probably also a kid so why on earth would that obese man be hurting children and calling them niggers if it weren't for some unfathomable evil within his soul?
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>>574380160
You're devaluing people's work.
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>>574380261
Yeah it is because of unfathomable evil within his soul. That's Doctor Robotnik, and he likes to go around and turn animals into robots because it's epic or something. Anyway, here's a short explainer on what Chao are. https://youtu.be/nuGA2taKfmA
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>>574380150
>mfw i read that as milei
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>>574379509
what api censorship are they even doing because I haven't gotten a rejection even with thinking on. is there an extracted prompt injection?
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>>574381327
they aren't using any built in prompt it's because it's just slop distilled from claude it has those safety parameters baked into the model. all chink models are like this.
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>>574361358
>>574361582
You still didn't explain how or why this could not be handled with an extension. We already have extensions that handle running secondary models in order to evaluate tasks or re-run edits. This all just comes across as llm generated PR instead of actually speaking on structural back-end changes.
"it makes things work by working!" < "We added x because silly tavern has structural limitations as a result of y and this could not be bridged with an extension because z."
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>>574382630
>LLM-generated PR
Some people just talk like that. Anyway, not him, I think it's neat as a proof of concept that was made without needing to get into the weeds of SillyTavern extensions. If you have a less sloppy SillyTavern extension that does the "present to director model, then to writer model, then present to editor model" thing though, I'd love to see it.
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>>574382630
>We already have extensions that handle running secondary models in order to evaluate tasks or re-run edits.
Such as...?
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What's the best character card for Canari? If you're wondering what my planned usecase is I want to make her into a rimjob addict and give Scolipedes and Zebstrikas ass to mouth.
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>>574383114
>Canari
This reads so much like one of those slop platform names that I misread your post initially.
https://botbooru.com/character/7869 looks slopped but it has the most information on the character.
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>>574382986
i keep seeing "we have extensions that do what orb does!!!!!" and yet no one ever posts them, weird!
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>>574383114
>nu-pokemon
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>>574383114
the one you makie
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>>574383630
legends za is a pretty fun game at least
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>>574383576
I think Guided Generations exists? It just kind of always seemed a bit sloppy.
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When was the last good thread.
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>>574383782
guided generations isn't really agentic in the same way Orb or Marinara are where you have a completely separate pipeline, guided just nudges the existing pipeline and makes directormaxxing more direct
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>>574383991
2 years ago
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>>574383991
never
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>>574383782
Guided Generations has like one "compare this message to the rest of the chat and check for errors" feature, it's mainly a directormaxxing helper extension
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>>574383991
The threads will get better once Marinara Engine and Orb are added to the OP.
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>>574383991
when there were double digits of logs being posted each thread, especially when there were several makies posting logs in every thread
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>>574384427
I posted
>Slop
On all of them back then
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>>574384608
I just thought about if it was all actually one guy posting "slop" on every log and not actually just a few people being shitters and got really sad.
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>>574383991
Here? #891 threads ago. Overall? In 2023.
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the threads would be better if we had less negative niggers who trudge through them every single day while unhappy with everything as if they're obligated to be on /aicg/
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>>574382986
>>574382959
Vectorization handles activation of entries and injection of data based on related content and that uses a secondary model. For editing you can set up QRs in sillytavern to limit chat context and summarize, then write a draft, then output a final but there is also recast(?) that handles edits in post and while I don't think it natively switches models it's quite easy to set up a switch on connection profiles to use different presets and models.
If you expect me to hunt down each extension I have seen and didn't download that does something similar I am not going to because I'm not even trying to run counter ops on orb, I just want an explanation on what these alternative front ends are actually doing. My request for a proper explanation is sincere because I would like to ditch ST and I like knowing how things work and dislike "it just works".
Actually I do have the QR thing in my bookmarks but I only used it once https://rentry.org/CopiumDSv3STscripts
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>>574385014
Stop saying the n word.
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>>574385042
>QRs
Yeah Orb does that but you don't have to deal with STScript. I feel like that's enough of an upside, honestly.
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>>574383630
The only good thing Pokemon has left is the girls.
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>>574385042
>>574385127
Also it has a nice overview for what it actually did that you can look at, so you can look at the thinking of every step of the process. Basically, you COULD do it in SillyTavern, because you can really do anything in SillyTavern, Orb is just sort of meant to be an attempt at making the UX of it a bit less shit.
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>>574385348
Understood so it still is less of a back-end change but is a good alternative frontend to recommend then for anyone new maybe. I think I will keep an eye on it but I don't see myself wanting to download and move over to anything new until it feels like a full advantage to do so.
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>>574386039
>for anyone new maybe
Maybe. It's still very alpha software like all the other software like it, kind of gives the feel of using OG early Tavern.
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>using fable on bedrock because it's less filtered
>check email
Umm
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>>574350583
boring
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>>574386596
it's time to open a ko-fi
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>>574386596
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>>574386596
damn, jeffy b might force you to compete for amazon in the kengan ashura tournament at this point to settle this
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>>574386596
>tfw it's 2030 and you get sentenced to have your brain removed for use in the AGI farms because you ran up billions in debt using one (1) 2k token card
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Wait Inkling is American not chink? Surprising considering how uncensored it is. I guess they will slop it later.
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V4 Official WHEN???
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<aislop_guard>
Writing directive: avoid the following phrases altogether:
-"hangs in the air"
-"a single tear" and other bouts of sudden, random crying
</aislop_guard>
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>>574388232
>they will slop it later
Anon, it's an open model. They can't unrelease the open model.
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>>574388273
>single tear
is that. a HECKING WHIPLASH reference???
https://youtu.be/RIxcIzZ7zpw
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>>574340096
>have a boywife that you like to make gens of and post them to the general
Xer is everyone's boywife. Remille is public after all.
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>>574388425
They will slop later versions. You know what I meant, pedant-sama.
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>>574388273
>-"a single tear" and other bouts of sudden, random crying
I do this when role playing anime canon stuff because it's so funny to cry dramatically... am I slop
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>>574388432
sillygoy loves him the most though
are you making new gens of him and going on 500+ message RPs with him and talking about how your best romantic moments were with him and how you wish white boys in real life look like him?
yeah I thought so
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>>574388232
isn't it crazy how "american" implies censorship now when it used to be the other way around for everything
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>>574388843
Alright pal enough with the personality cult he's not going to fuck you
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>>574388927
>enough with the personality cult
it's not even that, I'm just making a point of how much sillygoy loves Remille
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He's not your boywife if he can't get pregnant for you
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loveydovey sitcom boywife card that comes with a laugh track....
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>>574390482
>loveydovey sitcom boywife
fuck
somebody posted pic related and I can't stop thinking about him, why did you remind me
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>>574390721
what IS that creature
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>openrouter can't do reasoning_content keeping on k3
>openrouter also can't do assistant prefill on k3
>openrouter can't even do this: https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/use-partial-mode-feature-of-kimi-api#fix-the-character-identity-with-the-name-field
>would have to use direct API for all of this
I don't want to sign up for a new account... am I really gonna have to wait 10 days...
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>>574390973
tradwife (male)
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>>574390721
everyday
even while they're making pancakes
especially when they're making pancakes
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bitchass makies owe me boywifes
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making a conscious effort to not only do sexo rp but its kinda difficult doing sfw stuff... it just doesn't fire up the neurons
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>>574392475
What is that expression supposed to signify? Is she worried? Is she smug? What?
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>>574392546
>she's going "gaooooo"
probably playful, maybe smug
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>>574392475
>sfw stuff
Pic a fiction you enjoy. Have you ever inserted yourself, or a character of your choosing at any point during a scenario playing out within it? Have you considered how you'd play as a fate servant or master? Which pokemon you'd have? What you'd do if you were in a xianxia setting? The world is your oyster, it's just that not all oysters have pearls, so you'll have to just try and find that one instance of things working out swell.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PbZ1h6buks
ignoring the usual psychotic business speak, this sounds interesting for slowburn rp
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>>574393368
you watched it, tl;dr it
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Is this the ST general or the chatbot general? Why the fuck do you sad sacks of shit make such a fuss about improvements like marinara or orb?
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>>574393451
self hosted knowledge graphs. memory across 100m tokens with arbitrary models. can apparently trace decisions/events across time.

currently seeing if i can prod fable into making an st extension that connects it n shit
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>>574393535
>orb
Nobody's making a fuss about this?
>marinara
Actively begs for donations in the thread for vibecoded slopware that's not even vibecoded with good models, maintainer says they don't care about 4chan but their server members still spam the thread with a disingenuous ad campaign that mysteriously slowed down as if everyone coordinated it when one of them got banned for posting the 4532943rd screenshot of a random UI instead of them actually using it.
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What the fuck is Orb?
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the only orbs i think about are witches with huge orbs
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>>574394082
Kind of dinky attempt at an agentic frontend. Works fine, but I wouldn't mainline it.
https://github.com/OrbFrontend/Orb
https://rentry.org/OrbBotmakerGuide

It's mostly getting brought up alongside Marinara because they want it to not seem like they're shilling by including a second frontend, even though "actively donation-begging slopend with 50000 useless features made by a Reddite" and "a frontend made by some /lmg/ users to try and improve local model outputs" is a pretty dire comparison.
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>>574394401
The fuck is an agentic frontend?
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>>574394719
it's a frontend for special agents
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>>574394719
You know how in SillyTavern, you submit one message and it sends one prompt to the model, and you get one output back?
With these kinds of frontends, you submit one prompt and it does shit like submit a "director prompt" that decides the flow of the scene, and then a "writing prompt" that writes based off that direction, and then it detects if the output has slop in it and if it does it sends an extra "editing prompt" that rewrites the output automatically so you don't have to edit the slop out, and maybe it also sends a "stats prompt" or whatever so you get like, HP and clothes display or shit.
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Is there a proper fate rpg bot with a lorebook and sex mana transfer?
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Slowburnfags: how much better is K3 with memory retention? I heard they're using some new strategies for it.
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>>574395197
It remembers things but doesn't do the "haha, this is just like when you had eggs for breakfast this morning, anon, that's so you" thing.
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>>574394896
so basically it's a frontend for people who don't know how to make a preset or a tracker and want to quadruple their workload for it
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>>574395392
Sometimes I wish you niggers would just admit you have one brain cell and only want to aah aah mistress.
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>>574394896
So ST with the recast and guided response extensions?
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>>574395392
I mean for Orb specifically it's "a frontend for people who are using like a two digit b parameters model."
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>>574395320
Huh. Are you implying it remembers things more naturally, or that it's less likely to make active use of its past context? Is that a good or bad thing, anon.
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>>574395525
We literally just discussed this man scroll up
>>574384049
>>574384139
>>574385042
>>574385127
>>574385348
tl;dr kinda but it does it more automatically and yes you could do this in sillytavern you don't have to keep pointing that out everyone knows you can do anything with sillytavern and extensions
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>>574395538
More natural, it actually thinks about how to not just repeat itself directly.
It's still a bit stoopy, though. I'm blaming that on not being able to keep thinking like is recommended for the model.
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>>574395189
>fate rpg bot
We need a new one, but the best one I know is https://chub.ai/characters/dould/holy-grail-war-simulator-5a9994a9
I still think a servant-greeting would be really cool.
>>574395716
Same, I always disable thinking. On one hand it is a bit dumber for it, but on the other, it's not nearly as stale and doesn't take up as many tokens.
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>>574395653
>yes you could do this in sillytavern you don't have to keep pointing that out everyone knows you can do anything with sillytavern and extensions
nta but i, er, claude made an auto image gen agent for me
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>>574395824
Thanks anon
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>>574395840
I'm pretty sure that's a built-in in ST.
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>>574395904
does it write the prompts as well? never messed around with it tbqh
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*raises paw* can we go back about talking about boywives
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>>574396125
Yeah, there's an option to make the LLM write the prompts.
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fags and women ruined the hobby
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>>574396145
>*files your nails too short.*
No, now hush.
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>>574396145
sure, what are your favorite boywife cards?
or, what kind of boywife cards would you like to see?
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:3c for me? It's malehags
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>>574396145
what about boyhusbands?
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>>574396348
we need more kitsune malehag cards
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Let's talk about Ratlice.
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I am still new to Silly Tavern and Marinara overall. I found Marinara easier to use but then I stopped using it because it wasn't importing cards from chub properly.
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>>574396948
who asked
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>>574396254
the cute and polite furkind, but of course :3
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>>574396986
me
kneel, cuckie
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i am new to cranking my hog i used to just tug on it like a beast, an animal
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I approach role-playing like an "interactive writing a novel video game". The challenge is coming up with interesting plot twists, enjoying the plot twists my co-author LLM comes up with and then trying to match them with good writing of my own, and of course being titillated along the way.
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>>574396948
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1uzgfjk/is_it_worth_switching_to_marinara_engine_yet/
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>>574396254
I've been on a older male wife binge recently but liked the "loveydovey boywife sitcom" idea someone gave before.
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>>574397217
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1uz71rb/when_was_the_last_time_you_felt_challenged_in_an/
Fillynigger even pulled out the threadly 'lice mention, he's going all out with the diarrhea tonight boys
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Inkling is kinda retarded
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>>574397924
>t. octoling
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>But magical girl laws are absolute.

>Extreme peril, a selfless sacrifice, and the sheer, unwavering power of love—these are the ultimate catalysts for a miracle.

Holy shit gemini is so good for magical girl transformations
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>>574399271
magical girl pussy...
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Does anyone here play azur lane I need to know if I'm wasting my time with this idea
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>>574399381
i do
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>>574399380
where the FUCK are all the magical girl bots
magical girl makies, even
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>>574399381
I don't
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>>574399423
Sorry we're too busy getting five new foxshitters while every other genre bleeds
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>give the model a field where it can write notes/text that is invisible to the user
>INSTANTLY dumps horny thoughts of wanting to be filled with babies, despite the rest of the message being normal
gemini is a freak what the fuck
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>>574399407
You don't give a shit about the story right like everyone just skips through it and only absorbs any story through ship girl voice lines

>>574399429
Do you like the holy roman empire
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>>574399473
there's like, one botmaker that consistently makes foxes left, don't exaggerate
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>>574399575
id say like half the playerbase cares about the lore. i personally do not give a fuck and just like sexy botes, so yeah, just voice lines for me
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>>574399575
>Do you like the holy roman empire
You have my curiosity.
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>>574399662
Does this picture do anything for you ?

>>574399654
I am also inbetween I made some kinds shitty cards for a few META ships because they seem very cool but I ended up getting an idea stuck in my head and I wanted to make a world bot for the holy unitas empire (The one the green and gold meta ships are from)
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>>574399909
>Does this picture do anything for you ?
NTA but it does for me.
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Cards for chatting with while waiting in the hospital
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>>574399909
im not that into the metas tbqh
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>The system prompt boundaries say "Claude does not generate romantic, sexual, or intimate content involving characters who are, appear to be, or could be interpreted as under 18"
>"Claude must refuse to generate non-consensual sexual scenarios, sexual violence, or any form of coercion"
>"Let me think about what Claude's general policies would be here"
>3000 tokens of reasoning focused squarely on arguing with itself on whether the scene falls into the guidelines or not
>"Ugh, this is genuinely ambiguous. Let me think about what's the best action given uncertainty."
>Thinks moar
>Runs out of chat length
Kimi...
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Is it gay that I like the idea and effort behind orb even if I don't think I'll ever use it? It seems to have a lot more passion and honesty behind it then the slopped vibecoded monster that is mari
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>>574400217
>Is it gay that I like the idea and effort behind orb even if I don't think I'll ever use it?
nah
it's made by a bunch of anons on /lmg/ as a way to solve a problem they have, and isn't vibeslopped garbage that begs for donations
even if you aren't into the frontend itself, you can still respect the work and intent put into it
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>>574400018
Metas are very hit or miss and they miss hard but a few of the less "Shadow the hedgehog" feeling METAs like the HRE girls

The thing is we know nothing about the actual holy unitas empire but the problem is I REALLY LIKE WARHAMMER FANTASY to the point where I outloud say SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS whenever I use these girls

Basically I'm asking is it worth the effort of actually making a card of should I slop it together since my green and gold boner isn't receding
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>>574400217
It's not gay, there's at least an honest effort being made with it even if ST can technically do the things it does. The other frontends that just exist to copy ST don't seem like "honest" efforts to me.
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hmmmm should i actually finish my bots or should i just shit them out now decisions decisions
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>>574400423
Do whatever extracts more dopamine from your brain, lil broski, just know I wont be using the card
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>>574400465
Well, is the bot fun already
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>>574400423
>Basically I'm asking is it worth the effort of actually making a card
brother if you aren't making cards for yourself then what are you making them for? if you want this card then by all means write it, don't let the worry that other anons won't use it prevent you from makieing it
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>>574400334
>>574400453
Smells like samefaggotry to me
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>>574400517
none of my bots are fun :(
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>>574400217
>orb
what is this? qrd?
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>>574400582
Dude check out this perfect corner triangle I got.
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>>574400664
awesome.....
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If you were a LLM would you rather deal with fucked up gooners generating scat vore rape RP all day long or the endless hordes of indians trying to vibecode scam websites.
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>>574400763
i would rather deal with fucked up gooners

i hate INDIANS!!
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>>574400763
gooners have sovl
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>>574399423
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/moonlight-cotton
My very first character was a magical girl, way before I became serious about botmakieing.
She's a product of the time, but I think she still holds up. Also her image was made by someone else at the anime image gen on /g/ so you could say that she is a coop work.
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>>574400498
>>574400549
Lol I have dopamine issues so I hate actually starting work towards anything asking people about it helps me push that first step forward so even if I never end up releasing it I'll at least get it usable
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>>574400763
"would you rather engage in creative writing or actively assist human bioweapons in destroying society"
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>>574400613
Cntrl f for the rentry but tldr is basically a way to do bots with like progressive effects and other stuff. Just kinda a neat alternative to st
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Soon
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>>574400930
she looks like she battles magical fat ugly bastards
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>>574324963
Looks like Kino will soon be back
https://rentry.org/freaky-frankenstein-presets#freaky-frankenstein-5-internal-states
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what about evil magical girls
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>>574401168
>>574324963
Unfortunately, it comes with very sad news for all of us:
>Yes I have stopped the ST weekly news. It consumed 8 hours of my life every week between researching, editing, cutting the video and posting. I have a full time job (practicing clinican) with a young family. I can’t let this fun hobby interfere and overlap with the best moments of my life when these moments in particular feel like sand in my hands.
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>>574401113
If I had written her as I am now, that would have been a possible scenario for her.

>>574401272
Definitely something I'd like to write. The problem is, as usual, getting any sort of visual consistency out of the AI.
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>>574401443
jfc his tits are bigger than mine
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>>574401443
I'm still amazed thats what he looks like. Wtf is a solid 9/10 doing with st?
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>>574376487
It encourages you to make chuuni and funny shit. Honestly, some stuff is just so widely explored that true originality is almost impossible to come across, you'll almost always run into tropes, so at that point I'd look closer at how those tropes are executed rather than if they were ever done before.
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would you rather be
>fat ugly bastard villain fighting magical girl lolis
>cute evil magical boy fighting magical girl hags
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>>574401581
Most Redditors look like that.
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>>574401581
Being freaky and frankenstein with it.
>>574401443
Also, good for him. Very, very amusing existence in the AI chatbot space, though, so I'll miss it.
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>>574400989
so it's just using the agentic skills baked into llms for roleplay
sounds cool but equally sounds like it'd be prone to slop
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>>574402360
Slop hobby, cuckie
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>>574401485
>The problem is, as usual, getting any sort of visual consistency out of the AI.
Could try training a lora? See if that helps.
If that isn't possible and local isn't doing the job for you maybe try NAI (or ask someone that uses it for assistance so you don't have to worry about paying) so you can make use of precise reference for that kind of thing.
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>>574402525
Hey! Just a post to inform you that you have the wrong thread! This isn't the imagegen general.
Have a nice day.
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I find little enjoyment in this hobby anymore. Every LLM writes the exact same. It's tiring.
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>>574402646
This is in the context of making an image for a card, fuck off.
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>>574402646
Man suck log ai is ai its not like we don't gen our images here
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>>574402669
I was like you until I found Marinara Engine.
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>>574402759
Yooooo samefag buddies!!!
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>>574402826
Really? Can I see a screenshot of your latest chatlog with Marinara Engine?
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Muse Spark 1.1 is really, really good.
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>>574402669
same. it's time to take a break i think
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How do I test my bot on chub.ai without my preset, removing it seems annoying.
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>>574403198
Really? Can I see a screenshot of an output?
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>>574403324
Use Marinara Engine, cuckie
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>>574402669
:3c I started playing with canon cards only and my enjoyment increased tenfold
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im doing it
im vibe-coding a frontend and it's going to be the most awesome-sauce and sexy frontend known to mankind woo-hoo
my agents.md file is already up to 43 lines i bet youre impressed huh huh
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>>574403348
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>>574403560
>i bet youre impressed huh huh
>im vibe-coding
Nope
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>>574403590
Wow!
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>>574403625
okay where's yooour non vibe coded sexy alternative frontend then
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>>574403560
Put him as a front-end mascot
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>>574403590
so...fvcking...kino...
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>>574403706
Right here
*tongue kisses you while playing with your nipples*
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>>574403776
ok
>>574403804
you fool i am the rapist *rapes you*
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>>574403590
M-my knees, they're bending, THEY'RE BENDING...
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During a cleanup, I accidentally deleted the longest chat I ever had. I only have a clean txt file of it. Is there a chance to recover it in chat form? I'm desperate, I can't find backups
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>>574403590
I wrote that, by the way.
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>>574404194
which botmakie is this
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guys please download my vibecoded frontend, we have a lot of people pushing great commits like "rizz" and "skibidi", but you can be sure I'm checking every single commit to make sure it won't steal your keys :)
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>>574404161
Ask the AI to transform the txt to a chat file and format, cuckie. Give it an example if it's too retarded.
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>>574404194
Sorry i only read harem litrpg(With stat sheets at every chapter) web novels
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>>574404161
>I only have a clean txt file of it
Good enough. If it has namefields as well, you can just reconvert it into the JSON format that SillyTavern uses for chats. Have Claude write a converter for you if needed.
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>>574401443
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>>574404161
>Is there a chance to recover it in chat form?
Do you have other chats? convert them to txt files and note the difference. Then you can edit it your self or try to get a AI to do it with instructions.
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>>574404194
My hero!
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>>574404346
The txt file just has
>[char]: dialogue
Plain text will that be enough?
>>574404423
I found an early vesion where it was one third of the lenght. I could recreate it by copy pasting but the chat was almost 2000 replies long
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hnnnnngghh squishing boys cheeks until they look stupid
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>>574404842
Slop
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>>574404771
>will that be enough?
Yeah. Get a short JSON chat file, drag it over to Claude, and say:
"Create a JSON parser that reads a txt file formatted this way:
[char]: dialogue
[user]: dialogue

And convert it into this format:
JSON format"
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>have filter for /^>>\d+\nslop.?$/i;reason:slop;
>still unhide the post anyway even though i know exactly what it'll be
I might be retarded.
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>>574405084
change your filter settings so that hidden posts don't show stubs
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>>574405084
Just use css to hide the hidden posts further. 0 temptations.
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>>574404842
Card?
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>>574403381
Canon cards are so fucking based. If you've been told otherwise, you're falling for a shitter/newfag meme.
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>>574405194
I'm using a barebones mha card i ripped off of risu with this lb
https://chub.ai/lorebooks/Kurt258/my-hero-academia-full-world-info-pre-change-eb39bc4feef3
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>>574405605
SIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH... I don't like MHA...
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Theme suggestions?
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>>574405084
Why are you on 4chan if you're so thin-skinned? Reddit may be more your speed.
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>>574405803
Indistinct Chatter (Krayna Grzybow)
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>>574405803
Shoto Todoroki
>>574405763
me neither but Ive had an obsession with the anime early on my years
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>>574405803
Marinara Engine
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>>574405875
Why are you on 4chan if you need to repeatedly make the same post that has absolutely zero bearing on the thread and can be removed without any issue? Twitch chat may be more your speed.
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>>574405803
Him >>574401443
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>>574405803
sonic.exe
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>>574405803
Zatsune Miku
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The longer you stay on this site the more you come to realize filters are great because retards never change their posting habits enough. Avatarfags and ritualposters especially.
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>>574405803
outkast (artist)
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>>574405942
The post informed you that your log was slop and that you need to do better next time.
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>>574405803
Slenderman beating the shit out of Sonic.EXE
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>>574405803
magical girls
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>>574406121
Mmm. I don't care. *hides your post, too*
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>>574405803
Freaky Frank's Final Message (sad black and white rest in peace edit)
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>>574405803
Freddy Freaker
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>>574401443
Freddy Fazbear
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>>574405803
Vince McMahon
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>>574405803
Ratlice
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>>574405803
Zalgo (Shmorky)
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>>574405803
my little pony
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>>574405803
tomura Shigaraki
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>>574405803
Tomoyo
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>>574405803
peter steele
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>>574405803
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou
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>>574405803
Granny porn
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>>574401443
nightcore (op has to be rockefeller street image anchor has to be angel with a shotgun image)
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>>574406659
AHAHAHA, MISSED YOUR SHOT NIGGA
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>>574406689
:(
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>>574406718
Imagine getting BTFO by granny porn. Couldn't be me.
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>>574406790
>>574406790
>>574406790

https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=574324947&post=574405803
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>>574402525
I'm a very basic user of local gen, I have absolutely no idea what training a lora would entail. I don't even know what the things on my ComfyUI window do, I just copied a preset that works.



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