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>Character Trailer - "Sandrone: To New Beginnings"
https://youtu.be/x4YPOr0fGYo (EN)
https://youtu.be/M0RoSdxiMHY (JP)

>Transcendence Trailer - "Sudden Snow"
https://youtu.be/y2Zcmcbrm9s (EN)
https://youtu.be/7jtRliMjt4I (JP)

>Character Teaser - "Sandrone: First Light of Dawn"
https://youtu.be/rHJapi6mvmI (EN)
https://youtu.be/hikve2lv6EQ (JP)

>Version "Luna VIII" "Sunny Summer Fontinalia" Trailer
https://youtu.be/ou_LXniASyY (EN)
https://youtu.be/eD5sLGgH1xI (JP)

>Snezhnaya Ecology Teaser - "Laws of the Bitter Frost"
https://youtu.be/RGFJa2mwD8E (EN)
https://youtu.be/i4AtL9WspMk (JP)

>"The Final Gift" Animated Short
https://youtu.be/RoxVeTxKnpk (EN)
https://youtu.be/FRhHK_d6tD8 (JP)

>Current character banner: Sandrone, Citlali, Freminet, Diona, Beidou
>Current weapon banner: A Teaspoon of Transcendance (Claymore), Starcaller's Watch (Catalyst)
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/45647744

>Daily check-in rewards (permanent)
https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/signin-sea/index.html?act_id=e202102251931481&lang=en-us

>Redeemable Codes with Primogems (all regions): https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/gift
GENSHINGIFT
LEGEDILJKSGM
NMI20MAJGIBP
PFY1S40I88T9

>Useful Links (Wiki, Simulators, Maps, Character Builds, /gig/ friendlist, Third-Party Tools, etc.)
https://rentry.org/giglinks

/gig/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/ca0zseQ9
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>>574327761
Aether's wife
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>>574327854
This looks more like the chink general from Star Rail than Aether
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>>574327854
Thats kaveh
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>ZZZ and HSR collabing with each other
It's not fair bros...
What are some characters that you could see pass as random genshin fillers?
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>>574327978
>shit game collabing to save shit and dying game
nobody cares
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>>574327979
what happens if i say come in
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>>574327978
>It's not fair bros...
Very fair
Lesser games should flop together
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>>574327761
I expect Odette will be similarly autistic as her
also as ML
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>>574328012
I do
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Columbina Hyposelenia just overtook Venti
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>>574327979
Hehe cum in.
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>>574327978
>It's not fair bros...
its actually good. they should prevent the garbage games from defiling genshin
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Vilora: My mum says that back in the day, all a Vila noblewoman needed to join the Druzhna was a letter of recommendation...And now they want to assess you first? That's ridiculous!
"Why do you want to join the Druzhna?"
Vilora: Because of Ves- Ahem! To defend the glory of the Tsaritsa, of course!
Vilora: You see, the Druzhna is the very pillar of order of our nation. It's what we all look towards for authority and guidance! Haven't you seen the elegant Commander Vesna out and about on inspections?
Vilora: *sigh* That close-fitting uniform...the exquisite ribbons...that amazing sword...Wow...
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>>574328052
Your house will be full of fags.
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>>574328135
>as ML
>Lynette
So none at all? Or will she be a brocon too?
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>>574328245
>mum
?
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>>574327979
He's not around anymore so I get to fuck his wife
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>>574328245
What's this? A new lesbian character?
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Putting two things you like into the same pot doesn't automatically mean you'll like what you get. In game collabs shouldn't be wanted for
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>>574328292
did you skip the hangout?
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where the FUCK is our pink jesus
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I would like to non-sexually hug The Second of the Fatui Harbingers
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Just read all Sandrone's stories. And man do I hate reading cryo character's stories. It's a pain in the ass reading white text on a mostly white and light blue background all while there are white snowflakes floating around that can obscure the text even more. My vision was fucked for a few seconds after I was done reading everything. Such an eyesore.
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>>574328489
She was reborn this patch
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>>574328502
nahida EVISCERATED this
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>>574328519
Just go to the wiki.
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>>574328439
>Hangout
Not canon. Now play the current canon event and see how she talked with Citalli.
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What did they mean by this
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>>574328502
Hugs are supposed to be non sexual anyway >:(
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>>574328627
wanderer will still be seething about dottore like a rape victim
he BROKE him
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Will we ever get a real summer event ever again?
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>>574328810
Ideally no. I don't care for Kleeslop.
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Were you ever in doubt that *he* wasn't canon?

KWAB
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>>574328810
No, because you faggots cried about Klee every single year.
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What do I do to make c0r0 Skirk, Escoffier, and Furina do more than 76k dps
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>>574328810
Probably not, the final area in every future region will be in the version's final patch
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>>574328810
Bennett's was last year.
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>>574328851
owned those freaks
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>Da Wei showed up for ZZZ anniv stream
This isn't fair
Why Da Wei doesn't love us as well?
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>>574329097
Because he's not as important in the company as you think he is.
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Noy? The king of pyro.
Valeriy? The king of stellar superconduct.
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Yae can be skipp---- ACK!!!!
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>"The CEO isn't important trust me anon"
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>>574325693
your first mistake was assuming that
>women adore Wriothesley
FUJOS adore wriothesley
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>>574329097
Dawei showed up for every genshin stream. Why are you lying tranny
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>>574329210
Yae skippers are going to be the Ineffalets of Sneznaya...
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>>574329194
Give it a second before you start cooking the DBZ shitposts for Snezhnaya
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>>574329210
I dont mind having to roll for Yae but losing out on the free c1 because I was offline for a week or so is AIDS
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>>574329360
>Let me, a virgin man tell you how all women think
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LET THE MIGHTY BE HUMBLED
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>ZZZ gets THREE swimsuits
why is our game so lame?
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>>574329210
Thousands upon thousands are willingly submitting to fox goon fumes
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>>574329531
I would like to unsubscribe from [different game] facts
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Who else do you think they will add into the cons selectror this year?
Those 3 are 100%:
>Kazuha
>Alhaitham
>Yelan
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>>574329360
Fujos are all women and I have seen lots of other yumes for him. He still ranks in the top 100 yume poll each year too.
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>>574327761
kot thread
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>>574329210
Yaestonks from 4 years ago SKYROCKETING
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They should have combined this massive Yae shilling with a new skin. That model is rough.
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>>574327854
Why is this "waifu ML art" 90% Aether 10% Lynette?
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>>574329727
They're not adding anyone this year
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>>574329865
im more annoyed at lack of tail
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Horsedyke
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>>574329976
They said that they will last year
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>>574330017
They did not. You are either deliberately making shit up or misremembering something they said.
Feel free to post proof of your claims but we both know you won't.
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Is Abyss anon here?
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>>574325992
He's no older than 32. Wriollette fujos try to push the narrative that he was 18 to excuse their ship's creepy groomer tier backstory and therefore is in his 40s when in Sigewinne's Character Story 3 in CN she used the letters that translate to a "young boy" that is implied to be between 12-15 years old. Take the mean age of 13-14, multiply it by 2 and add 3 years and you get 29, 32 at most. The only explicitly middle-aged male in this game is Varka and they made a point to portray him as such by making him a peer of Seamus.
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>>574328489
canceled after Paglysia killed HSR. they dodged a fucking nuke
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>>574329210
I have a bad feeling about Vodyanitsa and Anastasya being Stellar Frost bundle. I hope that's not the case.
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>>574329865
Seems to be a female artist who mainly wanted to draw Aether
https://x.com/nana_illust/status/1830972070899159067
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>>574329741
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Cars
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>>574330173
Thats a cat not a car.
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>>574329210
Sneezenaya is not looking very good. No wonder Hoyo makes no effort to drum up any hype like they did with Nod Krai, they probably have no faith in it internally.
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>>574328502
Is too late to kill this thing by shaking?
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Yaedev's 4 year plan....
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>>574330089
Made me check
Yeah, they didn't tell that straight but that would be logical because they didn't add all bricks yet
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>>574329492
I'm not a man, retard
>>574329740
>fujos are all women
It doesn't matter. Fujos liking wrio doesn't equal to the female players at large liking him. While he does have yumes, the only yume poll that had him at ranking high had a 200 people sample.
>each year
Source please?
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I wish kot got buffed
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>>574330405
Stellar Swirl soon
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>>574330261
>Sneezenaya is [headcanon]. No wonder Hoyo [fanfiction], they probably have [delusions].
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>>574330261
I wonder why they have been so restrained with it. I get NK having a big hype cycle to adjust us to a new nation out of nowhere and I get wanting to keep Snez under tight wrap until the reveal teaser but they have barely said or done anything after that. Possibly a schizo take but with how not Slavic the designs are I wonder if they still fear geopolitical tensions over Russia.
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it should've been a 3-way collab between HSR ZZZ and Genshin to canonize the imaginary tree theory
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>>574329616
I submitted under 0 pressure and she came in 30 seconds (and so did I)
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>>574329740
Reminder to not reply to horseschizo, sis.
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>>574330298
12 year plan since Gun Girl Z
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>>574328519
Her stories sometimes are real depressionfuel. The one about Alain dying made me feel
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So using tenacity on furina and scroll on escoffier is better than using golden troupe on both of them when playing skirk?
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But why DID Natlan flop so hard, resulting in a slow but gradual downward spiral
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>>574330449
>they probably have [delusions]
I wish. Delusions should have been Snezhnaya's gimmick instead of stellar.
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>>574330492
She really wants you, anon. Lucky.
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>>574330478
>and Genshin
No, fuck off
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>>574330545
Its legacy is forever tainting genshin
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>>574330472
Were any of Belobog designs looking Slavic to you? If they had this fear they wouldn't have given the characters ivanesque names.
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>>574330472
Despite making up like 90% of the EU server's playerbase they contribute approximately 0 welkins to running the game
Dawei knows best and he has already deduced that there is no reason to care
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hag lynette is hot too
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>>574330524
It was the Pulonia one that made me sad. I know it won't go anywhere, but it mentions she has given up on Pulonia and still wants to fix him. But seeing as she already released it's not like he can be thrown into her kit at this point and the thought if mihoyo reviving him and turning him into a playable character scares me because you know they'll give him some shitty redesign and a new shitty personality to match.
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>>574330710
Russians are rich as fuck. You're thinking about the poles, balts, ukies and serbs
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>Fatui nation six years in the making
>Zero (0) playable harbingers
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>>574330801
4* manlet pulonia stellar swirl support you rike?
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>>574328627
wtf, early Odette cameo.
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Skirk is love. Skirk is life.
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>>574330710
Russians buy quite a lot of shit, and merch, most of it bootleg though.
source: my girlfriend
>>574330864
They never announce playable harbingers, it's supposed to be a surprise who dies and who becomes playable. Arle wasn't announced, Sandrone wasn't in the Nod Krai trailer or the silhouettes etc.
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>>574330545
>>574330627
You will always be reminded that Natlan added spaceships, interstellar travel, and extraterrestrial beings such as Skirk and the Voyager into Genshin's lore.
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>>574330472
They almost never advertise any new region before the livestream except for the 2 teasers in the 2 livestreams before + actual trailer. Are you new or something
7.0 will reveal all the new stuff + qols + new mechanics + live symphony.
7.1 will also be a dev livestream cuz anni
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>>574330545
Oops I meant to say Sumeru
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Varka rerun when?
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>>574331071
>added spaceships, interstellar travel, and extraterrestrial beings
the KFC wings already added those retardbro
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>>574331213
>raiden clone
*wandy
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Damn, Sandy drained my primo savings. Literally had to 100% the moon and summer event just to get enough to roll for her. What's a good cope weapon on her? I obviously can't afford to gamble for her weapon now.
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>>574331212
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Yeah and? KFC is Natlanese delicacy...
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>>574330395
Not every female player likes him but Wrio being overrepresented in merchandise says a lot.
>Source please?
https://x.com/_tima520/status/1741888484594372755
https://x.com/_tima520/status/1874318653233258716
https://x.com/_tima520/status/2007052842176311654
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>>574331174
Probably 7.1 or 7.2
Wouldn't be surprised if they lump Zibai and Linnea together like they did with Skirk/Escoffier and Nefer/Lauma earlier this year but if they do they'll probably throw Varka on to another patch
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not enough summer vibes this patch
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>>574331348
>What's a good cope weapon on her?
Mailed Flower if you have it
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>>574330545
The downward spiral started mid Inazuma. Turns out weebs only wanted to play le reddit island and nothing else.
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>>574330985
We buy a lot of original merch as well, one of the bigger Chinese re-sellers on Ozon had 3.5 orders this year and official very overpriced store had 25k orders in 3 years. There are a bunch of smaller re-sellers too.
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>>574331071
>Natlan added spaceships, interstellar travel, and extraterrestrial beings
Dumbass, I've been expecting this for years.
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>Zibai and Linnea rerunning will mean the moongecko will be in abyss, theater and stygian all at once
I fucking hate this brick element
except Chiori
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>>574330985
>Sandrone wasn't in the Nod Krai trailer or the silhouettes etc.
Wasn't she the upside down one on the right? But to your point yes she was purposely obscured.
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>>574331551
Klee deals with geo checks so it's no problem
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>>574330545
Genshin consistently set expectations high and failed to deliver on all of them. Look at what we knew of Fontaine prior to its release and how it turned out.
When people heard about the Natlan, the land of war and the land of dragons, everyone was imagining tribal strife, warfare, T-rexes, island hopping and real dragons. What we got was, well, you know the rest.
I think people have just had enough. I for one am done after Snezhnaya. I don't care about Genshin part 2 or whatever, I'm never EVER playing another hoyoverse game again.
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>>574331667
This picture felt like a lame imitation of the one from the 5.3 stream t b h
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>>574330864
Playable Harbingers have been cucked and neutered beyond belief It’s for the best the remaining ones remain unplayable unless you want to see formerly cool characters become retarded moeblobs.
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>Got C1 Yae on her launch banner in a lucky double pull
>Apparently she's the best with Sandrone
Hmm, maybe i should actually build the stinky
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>>574331851
Get her C2 if you haven't already, it's even better
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>>574331809
I like my domesticated waifus
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>>574331851
Sandrone is nearly unplayable without her
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>>574327761
Who is this
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>>574331718
This, so much this. Real gamers will go to Wuwa and BA, actual GOOD games that RESPECTS their players!
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Which Amphoreus character would you like to see in Genshin?
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>>574331923
I'll probably spend the next free con on her then. It was between her and Shenhe anyway
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>>574332056
all of them mogs every lineup we ever had
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>>574332056
pink Barbraara I guess
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>>574332056
Aglaea and pink barbara
Don't really care about the rest
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>>574332141
>>574332137
>Overworked blonde and tranny magnet
Of course..
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>>574332056
Pink Barbara is the only choice
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>>574332056
Meme.
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>>574332226
>girly colors on a girl? must be tranny
take your meds
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>>574332056
castorice is very pretty
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Going to work
Post cute
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>>574332352
No, she's not a tranny. Her fans are. Just look at the types who spams her in /hsrg/. We don't need to give them another excuse to come here
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>ZZZ gets the customisable 50/50 pool thing HSR has had for a year
>This is also the game that actually lets you get any 4 star from their version of Paimon's Bargains
W-when is it our turn h-haha
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>>574330545
Why do you always start your post with crying about natlan? Is this what you underage kids means by "rage bait"?
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>>574332440
no amount of "free rewards" and "qols" will change the fact that hsr and zzz are dogshit
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>>574332440
Genshin is still doing insanely well with how little qol we are getting
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>>574332440
Qiqi and lvl 100 have more value than all of them btw
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>>574332447
It's an aspergers thing, you wouldn't get it
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>doomjeet hours
Here's a fun little challenge, /gig/. I want you to think of a QOL feature. It can be anything, just some kind of 'that would be nice to have' type feature.

Does Genshin currently have the feature you thought of? No? That's because it doesn't need it. If the game actually needed it then Hoyo would have added it. It's irrelevant if the feature already exists in other games, even if those games also are made by Hoyo; it's a bad and unnecessary feature that only bad games need to include to get their players to stay. The reason Genshin doesn't have that feature is because it's not a bad game.
Also if the game ever does get the feature anyway then it's because the developers listened to community feedback, not because it's a bad game or because it needs to bribe players with QOL features. Only other games do that.
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Genshin must have some big rewards planned if ZZZ is doing all of this.
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>>574332440
We have Chronicled Wish and To Temper Thyself and Journey Far which are far better systems
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>Get QoL updates all the time
>WE DON'T GET ANY QOL!!!
Do we even play the same game? When did these fags start playing the game? Things are so much different and better from 1.xx.
I'm starting to suspect they won't be happy until they get a button that automatically clears domains, abyss, SO etc so they can just go straight to gambling
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>>574332872
It's true, they're going to give out 10 pulls AND an elixir during the next anniversary
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>>574332709
I'm not reading that.
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just bought fc4 for $1 (cheaper than welkin) and i have no idea that these people are pajeets i thought they are himalayans or nepali, and i'm killing pajeet every 10 seconds or so, im so having fun bros
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>>574332872
free 10 pull is the best we can do gweilo
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you know what would be great an elixir that allows you to convert an artifact to different set while keeping the stats
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Seems like Genshin is doing so well that Cheld, Klee and Albedo have more weight than just a year old ZZZ characters lmao
Giving limited banner characters for free is a sign of weakness
>cons selector
Still needs to roll for C0 lol
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>>574331381
Okay, fair enough.
>Those links
seem kinda sus. They seem believable but at the same time I see no reliable method that was used to make these top 100. What does this user base these rankings on? I remember seeing yume top 10 from taptap and weibo that had all 4 LADS guys and Scaramouche in the middle and the results were based on some polls and big statistics but these rankings I see for the 1st time and I'm genuinely curious where did they take their info from.
>that falloff from 10-11 to 53 while Flins is 5th place
Something tells me that Flins stole half of his audience. Not surprising (and dare I say deserved) after whatever the fuck they did with him since release up until Nod Krai.
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>>574333267
>Cheld
>weight
Yeah, deadweight.
He didn't even get buffed unlike Klee and Alpedo
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>he's seething in evry hoyo thread now
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>>574333513
>now
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>isreal
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>>574333408
He's the weakest character right now and yet they aren't giving him for free
I think they should rework him into a some kind of support for stellar swirl like Vodyanitsa
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>>574333513
He even seethes in wuwa and bag. this "identity" is his entire life now.
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People of Mondstadt, your worms are redeemed.
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>>574333589
Who is ez studio?
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>>574329531
>swimsuits
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>>574332056
NONE.
They all suck.
I think Amphoreus SUCKS. Fuck Amphoreus. All Amphoreus characters suck besides Cypher.
In fact, FUCK every HSR character that was released after past Penacony and the Hoolay patch besides Cypher, Sparxie and Pearl (because she looks pretty).
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>>574333382
Yeah. I'm not sure how reliable it is but it does seem to be consistent with characters I see trending each year so I can put a bit of faith in it. The account from the Japanese site holding the ranking so there's no way to see if there was any people in the comments verifying that they voted.
>Something tells me that Flins stole half of his audience. Not surprising (and dare I say deserved) after whatever the fuck they did with him since release up until Nod Krai.
Some people will happily go from FoTM and Flins was the first real tall male since Wrio released (Ororon and Ifa being 4*s and Ifa having dark skin did not bode well for them) but yeah it's not like his event appearances since Fontaine's AQ ended did him any favours.
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>>574333267
hope they at least rejig the selector so we can go back for additional cons. i want my c2 nilou but not enough to swipe for it. and let's face it, cons won't save these bricks so may as well cash in on the good will gesture.
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>>574333616
Yeah and? He's still deadweight, if he was given for free it would be a
>who gives a shit
Like any other game with a crappy limited character
Like it only depends on if hydro is getting any support with stellar for him to get a witch revelation, otherwise he's just a driver for stronger reactions like LC
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Childe may be weak but he still gets women wet unlike you
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>>574333589
what a stupid collab, reminds me of valorant collaboration with league of legends somewhere in 2021.
The thing is when video game siblings doing a collaboration with each other, it will be a crutch colllaboration that pretend to be a shitpost a.k.a. one of them had weaker sales than the other (underperform) and they need some internal help from sister IP. Unlike inter IP collaboration that reverse 1999 usually did. Now I dont know whether its HSR or ZZZ, but one of them is obviously underperforming in sales lately
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>>574333976
Let's not get too greedy now... Do you want Dawei to go bankrupt?
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>>574334148
Yoi's just using him to get to Teucer
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>>574334148
His C4 is crazy for that, the riptides just keep explooooooooding, even Guoba barely keeps up! KYAA!
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>>574333853

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funny eula
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I'm so glad Genshin is still treated as an actual game unlike HSR & ZZZ.
You'd never see this garbage in Genshin.
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>>574333881
I don't think it's a matter of FoTM. I think it's a combination of several factors:
>Flins was the first tall male 5* since Wrio like you said
>Embodies a similar archetype: tall, dark, royalty (real this time) but a fighter. Besides that, he's more gentlemanly and flirtier than Wrio.
>Unlike Wrio he had some quazi-yumebait (rugpulled in the end for Illuga, but still many people believed)
>Released without another male in the same patch to bait fujos
>Has a famous VA that isn't hired with another VA
>Wrio deteriorated over time
Not just became a fujobait fodder but also extremely boring. As much as I despise and hate him, he had more personality interacting with Clorinde than he does with Neuv and dare I say that to wank the fujo ship writers castrated both Wrio and Neuv personality-wise to make it work (still flopped though) and yumes just eventually got disillusioned and bored.
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>>574334640
Well that's obvious. Why would Miliastra collab with HSR or ZZZ?
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>>574334168
Fate does it all the time with the exact same framing as a collab and no one bitches(i.e KnK, Mahoyo or turkeyhandle). HI3 did it too with us, but at least that was pre part 2 failure.
But you're probably right that there is some contextual stuff that makes it seem desperate here
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>>574334640
Wish we didn't have to see your garbage posts too, /vmg/jeet
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>>574334640
>ZZZ
Filmgoer
>Genshin
FilmMAKER

Never doubt who your superiors is
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NEFER MY QUEEN
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>>574334640
Literal humiliation ritual. I'm glad that genshin is improving thoughbeit it was at the end of version luna like animation, presentation, exploration, etc. It was a sign that our income flow in the right direction.
These sister games need to understand who's the breadwinner in here
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Prune's virgin pussy
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I haven't gotten a single good or even decent Deep Shadow piece for weeks now, meanwhile I keep getting great Celestial Gift pieces but I don't own dogshit Nicole.
Honestly fuck 60NCIDW.
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>>574334946
>exploration
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>>574335148
Divine punishment for skipping a literal angel but rolling for yuridrone
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This is just the gate way for the three way collab between Hi3xZZZxHSR if you didn't saw the writing in the wall pointing to this mega Collab that gonna be the biggest event Hoyo ever did you are blind
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>>574335148
You don't own Nicole but are the only one here who thinks she's dogshit. A curious combination!
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>>574335169
The moon.
Yeah nk exploration is shit most of the time but the moon is great and it means snezhnaya exploration will also going to be great
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>>574335327
I own Nicole and I think that she's dogshit
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>>574335327
we all skipped Nicole Lawrence
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But we already had a collab with hi3...
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We all rolled
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>>574335726
That's not what winter means
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>>574335650
It was one way, we didn't get a character swap, they only took keka and fischl.
>inb4 expy
Doesn't count
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>>574335148
This is the best piece I got so far, the rest are all def/hp/single crit garbage.
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>>574335726
>Tsaritsa releases 16th of December
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>>574335743
I skipped.
I keep grinding her domain even though I'm never going to unbench my wrio.
I don't even know who would use this set.
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>>574335370
They did some cool things with Moon exploration but the area is tiny.
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>>574335775
If it happens after the 31st it's not Winter *2026* anymore thoughever
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>>574334779
FVARKther
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>>574335312
>event
>collab
>IPxIPxIP
Let me tell you this: if those games have something productive to do then they wont have to resort to collab because they will be too busy making their own content and have no time to do some collaboration that amounts to nothing and give nothing except for lulxd stuff in community
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>>574334649
I can't argue with anything you wrote. I think there is an attempt to give him a personality but it is very dry and that does not work with someone autistically serious like Neuvillette. Using headcanon is how I get the most enjoyment out of his character but I don't think that's a problem honestly, most of the fanbase does it with ships.
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It's kinda sad that Tsaritsa doesn't release in 7.2 because if she released in 7.2 that would mean she would release on 4th November which is a National Unity Day in Russia.
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>deleted
is mince crashing out again
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>>574336172
then it could only mean that snezhnaya will have some political issue plot where the citizen and the guberment wont be united with each other
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Huh
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>>574336190
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tnum/574307274/deleted/deleted/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tnum/574320816/deleted/deleted/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tnum/574327761/deleted/deleted/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tnum/574329982/deleted/deleted/
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>>574327854
Thats long hair kaveh
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>>574336368
hard to tell if eulaschizo is also mince at this point
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>>574336190
Hungarianschizo...
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>>574336368
>>574336496
I guess they seethe at zzz because it panders to straights tho
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>>574336496
>different posting styles/content
What do you think
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>>574336687
>chatGPT, rewrote my responses so it styles diferent
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>>574336064
HOYO VERSE
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>>574336651
>panders to straights
>Black culture garbage
Straight brown men maybe
Hey maybe that's why they flopped so hard, the target audience had no money to support the game other than $3
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>>574336064
The Honkai IP will leve forever
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>>574336823
That stuff is 100% organic, right down to the fuck ups with spelling or grammar
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>>574336961
hello saaarrrrr how long did you have to drive for your new ip today
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>>574336064
Gonna be a movie trilogy
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>>574336961
its just a bad game but the style of pandering is consistent with say, snowbreak and by that I mean they're spamming big tits and asses.
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what if lumine leave wanderer for lohen? Would wanderer get jelly? Would lohen get cocky?
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You are next...
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>>574337306
Give me a 5* piper and my soul is yours
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>>574337273
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>>574336961
Dude you are a fucking aberration
>Unironic transexual
>Unironic calls himself Theresa
>Is from Jarkata
>Call straight man stragotts
>Is blacked porn addicted freak
Literally the type of creature rejected by the world and society
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>>574328389
Based femanon
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I am unimaginably thankful that the Genshin world doesn't get raped with spending events and three paid outfits per patch and more gachashit and collab slop.
>Miliastra
Nobody cares about it
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Uhh bros where do I go now for an updated timeline?
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uh oh melty
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>>574337814
>three paid outfits per patch
No one sane bitches about that as a detriment
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>>574337814
Excuse you? GOATliastra literally makes 30m on dead patches
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>>574337893
I don't want more recolors. People like the original designs, some are just outdated. Do free model updates of old characters without killing their designs.
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へぇ…
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>>574337817
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TL;DR Genshin lost, as always
Wow, who could ever seen this coming, ahah
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Floprinde flopped
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>>574337814
retard I want skins
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>add sci fi space elements, yet still dodged honkshit tie ins
>no new clone since nahida
>evaded the pink elf with our last archon
>don't need to have our sister games' cast inserted in 1-1 like with HI3
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obesatroon melty
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>>574338056
>you lost out on... the pinkshit and honkai slop
Good.
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>>574337630
in this picture lumine confessed to wanderer and apologize to him after spending a night with lohen
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>>574337995
Thank you bwo.
Is there no website like paimon.moe anymore? I wanted a substitute because I don't want to ask every single time I'm curious about what's coming next.
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>>574338207
we evaded nothing
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>>574337981
>that look
What’s he gonna do
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>>574337968
>I don't want more recolors
You'll get recolours and costume change outfits
>Do free model updates of old characters without killing their designs.
You're not getting that as it is without the costume spam (as we've only been getting occasional old cast upgrades with the sporadic outfits), having more costumes wouldn't suddenly mean that they'll never do it either
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New XinzoruoKINO
https://x.com/xinzoruo/status/2078079628137390221/photo/1
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>Genshin lost
If genshin lost or eos'd, then none of your games would survive in the next 3 months because there's no welkin money to keep everything afloat, also that 'next flagship ip' varsapura will be the first to get that planned parenthood treatment lol
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>>574338403
paimon moe is 99% abandoned by its owner and most people have switched to other sites like stardb for the purpose of tracking their personal pulls
Timelines of patch content like the one in the image are uploaded by Hoyoverse on Hoyolab
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/45872947
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Cheld, get the fuck out of my game
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>>574338452
prosopagnosia
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>>574338502
>there's a subhuman out there who look at this thing and/or littleredhood render and laf to their hearts content
grim, so much grim!
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>>574338592
Doomchads...
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>>574338502
Buddypoke
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>>574336961
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>>574338638
heh, he said pag
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>>574337273
Lumine is an Abyss Princess, anon.
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>>574338609
What a shame. It was nice having everything in one place.
Thank you again though. I'll use this stardb from now on assuming I can move my pull history from paimonmoe.
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>>574338738
This one's just cute though it's not meant to be hilarious or anything
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Cleared Abyss with Skirk.
It's just so much easier with a wholly built and ready Skirk team rather than a Sandrone team that I need to build from scratch.
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>>574338864
Not in the Anime
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>>574338869
You can, I don't remember how exactly it works since it's been a while since I did it but you can export whatever paimon moe history that's saved in your browser and upload it to stardb
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>>574338841
Genshin design peaked here
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>>574338502
aww this is very very cute
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>>574339035
Just threw up in my mouth. Holy shit that thing is ugly
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A BLOB
in this general
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odds fap
evens buy a whore
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sex with sandrone
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>>574339165
Total Stinko Victory
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I just started just over a year ago. I'm 50 been playing games since I was a kid. I have always loved RPGs and especially open world games, mmos etc. This free game that is easily playable without spending a penny has so much content, so much quality content that I am left astonished. The story lines, the lands, the philosophies, the characters, they are all so very well done. I thought I was done with mondstadt and then found the dragon mountain place. I thought I was done with liyue and then found the chasm and the place where the water spirit wants you to fix the plumbing. I finished the Japanese place but then went to finish mondstadt and liyue and I just keep finding more and more. It never ends. I havnt even started act 3 yet. I have played a lot of gacha games and this feels less like a gacha game and more like a proper Bethesda, Bioware or Rockstar type game.

After playing ZZZ, I was not expecting this...at all.
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>>574339581
yes
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>>574339658
Fat xiao...
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>>574339658
ask chatgpt to talk less like a shill
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>>574339658
RedditGOD finally played the good Mihoyo game
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Will asmoday have this much aura?
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>>574340095
you bet she will
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>>574340095
FUUUUAAAAAAAAAKbringer
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>>574340095
This looks like any generic hype and aura anime slop
I miss the ZZZ with charming, low level crime and stories, hijacking trains and going after corrupt businessmen. Only subhumans clap like seals at this archon Honkai garbage.
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>>574340095
what am i even looking at
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>hrtg and zzz is moving 10 times quicker than gig even though we're about to enter snezhnaya
yeah, this shit will flop horribly
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>>574327761
…バカ
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>>574340503
Should have added a skip button and artifact loadouts.
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>>574340095
She really is a fucking shifu clone.
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>I miss ZZZ with rubber hose animation and Borderlands tier visual gags
Nobody says this
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>>574340095
Would be 500x cooler if it was a cool dude.
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>>574340426
>I miss the ZZZ with charming, low level crime
Miyabi.
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Snezhnaya, land of expies
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>>574339658
Why is he playing with that team a year in? Kazuha and Jean are pretty usable but the rest are total shit. He could have pulled any 1 new unit that would do more DPS than Klee and Lisa combined.
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>>574340503
>the combined audience of shart fail and zimbabwe zoo zero barely broke 30k viewers for the livestream
>Snezhnaya livestream in 2 weeks will hit 150k
retard
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I want to fuck "*"
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>>574336651
if it panders to straights why is it flopping so badly?
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>>574340569
At this point I firmly believe that it's not that they don't want to add a skip button, it's that they literally can't due to some spaghetti code. Plus it's also convenient because it makes story patches look like they have more content than they actually have.
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>>574340725
in your dreams honkek
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>>574340891
cuz its a bad game
just like natlan was a bad region that killed immersion
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>>574340891
the gameplay sucks
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>>574340915
No, dude. They just don't want to.
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>>574340645
Considering how much ZZZ has declined since the rubber hose and Borderlands era, I would say 80% of the playerbase says this.
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>>574340095
foids have no aura
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>>574339581
Only Bina can do this
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>>574340758
Witch-buffed Klee is pretty good, not as meta as the current stuff, but roughly as good as Arlecchino iirc.
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>>574340708
Miyabi was garbage and the turning point of ZZZ permanently killing its atmosphere and dropping into irrelevance outside of porn, yes.
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So when are we getting hsr's and zzz's best designs (Sparxie and Burnice) as submissions to their overlord Genshin? Do they not owe us a tithe for their continued existence?
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>>574341014
Then they are only hurting themselves and preventing sales. The best part of Genshin is high level combat while testing your abilities against a strong boss. The lack of a skip button only prevents most people from ever getting there.
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>>574341040
how many bans have you evaded today to make these very important posts
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>>574341216
if they're the best designs why did they flop
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>>574340758
Based roll for who you like geezer doesn't give a fuck about meta, tier lists or endgame
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there's something sus going on that i can't quite put my finger on
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>>574341216
Genshin is busy building up its flagship franchise into a world class IP, lil pup. No time to taint the setting with collab slop. We have to get the anime out soon.
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Genshin is long overdue on a momo...
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>>574341216
Mavuika is literally a ZZZ character and she halved the playerbase and revenue at the same tme
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Start a family
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>>574341283
Because they're in dead games? Obvious
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AetherGOD here!
I don't care for Genshin anymore; I have become a ZZZ-KAMI!
AetherGOD out!
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>>574341226
>The best part of Genshin is high level combat
I say this.
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>>574341354
We have Momoka
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>>574328851
I want to fuck the cat so much.
Unconscious AND otherwise
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>>574341354
Why does she have 2 different bodytypes in the same picture?
They can't even put some effort to edit their aislop now?
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>>574341354
We have Yae
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>>574340095
Urban sci-fi game btw
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>>574341804
Weakass nahida if churl-sama tanked that many hits
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>>574341354
unfortunately genshin devs are too proud of their work to ever bless us with the pink
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>>574341710
Unfortunately.
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>>574341354
I dont like it
t.pedo
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Wasn't there an anon who said he'd upload Sandbina doujinshis?
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I raised my C5 (recent) Qiqi to 50 level and stopped because I'm still not sure if it's worth it for Snezhnaya.
Although I don't plan on pulling Odette and didn't get Sandrone so I don't have too many choices.
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>>574341040
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>ZZZ is doing its 5th pre-registration event

Why doesn’t Genshin do this?
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>>574341169
>garbage
Beloved CBT character
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>>574342000
I realised they cost money and that made it impossible for me to obtain them... Sorry yurixisters...
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>>574341890
or they don't want to kill their game. it's insane what the pink bitch did to HSR right before the next planet
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>Genshin is still immune to pink and has enough power to deny Honkai devs
Still, kinda hilarious that after all the backhanded comments by HSR players about ZZZ, they're now forced into a collab with them.
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>tried going in between the lights with Chasca
>didn't work
>webm related
lol I fucking love this character.
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>>574341434
Based and same
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>Why doesn’t Genshin do th-
It's successful and not flopping.
This is an answer for every question.
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>>574330524
That and especially her dialogue at Alain's grave were well done and hit me in the feels
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>>574342084
>free hugo
should've done this sooner if they wanted me to play
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no one cares about shart rail
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>>574342270
>It's successful and not flopping
>added a way to mash through text faster
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Genshin basically never having good deals on anything does mildly annoy me though.
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>>574342337
I care about the continued existence of HSR because it means people will continue drawing Sparkle
I have never played it and nor will I ever play it though
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>>574342069
This cant be real
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>check plebbit
>ZZZ are acting as if HSR and ZZZ are the same
The fact mihoyo really suicided their gacha empire to make these people happy makes everything sweeter
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The current most powerful deity in genshin is sparkle expy
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>>574342023
>No Odette
>No Sandrone
I hope you have Yae or Wrio otherwise you're kinda boned anon
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>>574342489
ZZZiggers are extremely uppity.
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>>574342192
>Still, kinda hilarious that after all the backhanded comments by HSR players about ZZZ, they're now forced into a collab with them.
ZZZfags are the one seething about the collab though
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>>574342192
Proof that HSR is collabing with ZZZ?
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>>574342728
It was revealed to me in a livestream
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>>574342728
you just woke up buddy?
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>>574342451
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>>574340095
what is ZZzzzz even about anymore
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>>574342623
These people are extremely clueless. Their games are dying because for once genshin money went to... genshin... and now both HSR and ZZZ are doing anything in order to survive and their players hate each other? Holy shit they are going to kill their own game financially
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Why does 2/3 of players not know how to build Citlali?
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>>574342842
ZZZ is collabing with HSR, not the other way around
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>>574342568
Yeah, I don't have both. I'm probably cooked, at least until Vesna, Danica and Tsaritsa release.
I just don't want to roll for dykes anymore. I initially wanted to get Odette but the devs already preparing for her to be a dykebait made me cancel these plans and wait for Vesna now. Besides, Sandrone is reliant on Yae and I simply don't have primogems left for all this.
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>>574342902
it goes both ways
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>>574342871
We all have C4
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>>574342623
This makes mihoyo gachas dying sweeter, imagine unironically hundred of millions of dollars and it all was because they wanted to make THIS audience happy
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>>574342871
>he didn't vertically invest his Citlali
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>>574342902
it's the other way around too bwo
leakers just said that there is no amphoreus patch, it's going to be ZZZ shit for two whole months
>>574342623
Why do those retards feel so holier than thou for playing a softcore coomer game that killed its entire identity to shill harder?
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>>574342871
Are your artifacts seriously that bad...?
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>>574343020
Yeah because HSR got a collab with honkai impact 3 as well right?
>>574343169
>leakers just said that there
>check leaker name
>#anonymous
kek
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>>574342871
All the guides telling you either build ER or EM depending on whether you hit the 160-180% with your other rolls or not. Is that not true? I got Citlali this patch myself and kinda confused.
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>>574342337
Where does that chain go?
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Total Hu Tao Love
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>>574343020
>ZZZ x HSR
>HI3 x GI
>HI3 x HSR
>HSR x Fate
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>>574342871
We're all skipping bursts now bro
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>>574339035
yuck!
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>>574343337
To her girlcock cage
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>>574343317
You build nothing but ER, EM doesn't matter at all.
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>>574342623
>>Their revenue really must be hurting to be doing all this
These niggers have ZERO self awareness
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>>574340701
this but unironically
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The first time I saw ganyu back in the day I wanted to fuck her bad.
Then her story came out and I realised she used to be fat.
Ever since I can't goon to her anymore.
Am I the only one who went through this train of thought?
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>>574342451
What do you mean? Just put her in your party and look down bwo.
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Never stop Taowing.
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>>574343413
Then why did you go out of your way to roll an 86 EM ER Sands?
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>>574341226
The thing is, some twittards and redditards and some 4chantards think the actual playerbase care about these things and not just the mouthbreathers.
You ask them and they'll scream "nooo genshin bad no qol no rewards hsr f2p friendly waw" and yet none of that matters since HSR playerbase is unhappy and they keep quitting despite all these rewards and qols while genshin playerbase is mostly happy and healthy and consistent over the past 2 years.
The company only does things if players keep leaving, that's why hsr and zzz are getting more and more desperate. Every ZZZ dev stream, the main dev says shit like "this can be considered a new beginning" >>574331717
He said that shit in 1.4, 2.0, 2.5 and now.

Basically if you find yourself asking
>why isn't this in the game
Because it's irrelevant and won't help the game
>why did the genshin devs do this
Because that's what the actual silent playerbase likes.
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>>574343420
After flopping both on PC and on mobile, zzz players say 99% of their revenue comes from PS5, despite that ps5 makes up for a fraction of what gacha in mobile makes
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>Shenhe figure: Sold out and removed from AmiAmi
>Citlali figure: Sold out and removed from AmiAmi
>Eulachurl figure:
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>>574343413
But if you build only ER% you'll have too much ER% if she's on Cinder City set.
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HRT is literally a 3/10 for jrpg standards, and that's not even including gacha garbage
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>>574343447
She's downright disgusting
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lol, lmao even
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>>574343580
And they STILL make less money on PC kwab
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>>574343660
>too much ER% on your Citlali
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The best part of playing Genshin isn't that it's a good game, but bragging about it's revenue.
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>>574343594
People would have been all over this 5 years ago, but being a Eula fan since then has been full of endless humiliation rituals. Even Ganyu fans know not to get their hopes up that every other patch change is going to save their character, only to get "rugpulled".
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>>574343719
I watched a guy whose opinions on RPGs I respect like it, but he was an extremely casual player and I could tell he was just enjoying the difficulty of being really undergeared and underleveled.
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>>574343857
Do you want me to wank about the Moon Gazing questline again? We're waiting for Snezhnaya.
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>>574343825
>Epic Games
Lol who uses that shit
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>>574341968
Oh you're a pedo? Name 2 children you've molested.
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>>574343530
TRVKE
HSR and ZZZ are utter fIops
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This video is so good I teared up a little
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsFRSeIIynU
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>>574343719
3/10 is too generous.
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>>574343829
She doesn't feel like Bennet where if you have less than 280 ER% you get two particles from his E and have to wait until the fucker gets his E up again.
Idk, I'm playing Citlali in Mavuika team with Xilo and Benett and Citlali gets her ultimate with a single E all the time if she doesn't already have it.
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>>574343746
>NTE and EosField both have black culture shit
>Boh are already dead
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>>574343594
I'll buy it.
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>>574343825
>epic games
>bragging about funding another game that actually gives their players amazing rewards
>epic games
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>>574343961
317 million people
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>>574342623
>husbando rail
Huh? Is this what their narrative is?
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>>574343530
I feel like I can replace every word of this post with
>slurp
And it wouldn't look any different.
People cried about skiptards yet they still threw them a bone this patch.
Same with them coming up with faster dailies
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>>574343961
I mean they flopped in steam too
At one point you gotta realise if they are flopping in every chart except the one in their minds, then something's wrong.
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>two flawed dying gacha collabing together
Couldn't be us. Still the most popular and successful open world anime gacha of all time by the way.
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Being this obsessed with revenue is strange. The only people I've ever seen obsess with revenue this much are kpop fans
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>>574343857
No Genshin is a fantastic game. Majority wouldn't be as big as genshin is right now even if they had the covid boost in 2020/2021. Certainly not hsr and zzz.

Revenue is used as evidence for how good it is. Bad games lose theirs. Good games don't.
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>>574344241
>Revenue is used as evidence for how good it is
TetrisGODS
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>>574344241
>this applies to fifa/FC games
Ronaldo>Bennett
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>>574344241
THIS SO MUCH THIS
GARDENSCAPES IS BETTER THAN 99% OF VIDEO GAMES
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>>574344231
It's the exact same mentality. It's a measuring stick they can use to feel good about their affiliation with something. It's easy for it to happen with stuff that you make a part of your daily routine.
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>>574343961
Genshin is the king of Epic games not counting fartnite and rocket league.
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>>574344241
1.0 genshin was decent
It became stagnant for too long.
Now after 6 years they put a lil effort
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*honk*
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>>574344329
Tetris is a good game
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>>574342871
I play Sac Frags Citlali and never have to worry about even clicking the burst button.
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>>574342623
lol when will these nerds realize that they are the same people they complain about?
The tribalism is nauseating.
It's fucking HoyoVERSE with multiple IPs about "travelling amongst the stars to places unknown".. this was bound to happen.
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>>574344426
According to /gig/'s logic Fortnite and Rocket League are better games than Genshin
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You know what I cbf
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>Boh
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>>574344329
>>574344353
>>574344371
The point isn't the revenue specifically but the revenue trends like I said.
HSR and ZZZ are bad games and that's why they keep getting lower and lower. Genshin is good because it's consistent.

HSR is now doing Wuwa levels of revenue ON MOBILE while genshin is trending higher.
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>>574344539
They are because they aren't gacha
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>https://x.com/GenshinImpact/status/2073620386609045668
our collab is coming soon too, there's unused ascension material called Teardrop of the Moon
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>>574344329
Tetris isn't a good counterexample to appeal to popularity. You're supposed to use things that are bad. The concept might be the same but it's easier to understand that way.
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Genshin will be collabing with Family Guy.
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>>574344601
Now post HSR revenue for 2025 before they decided to kill their game to promote ZZZ on december 2025 lol

oh oh look at that
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When has popularity ever been a measure of quality? If anything, mass popularity implies that the product was lowered to the lowest common denominator to appeal to the masses.
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>>574344498
We would freak if it happened to us, we prayed that we wouldn't get a pink elf archon
Most people either played a different hoyo game because they got turned off by a prior one, or generally dislike the other games due to fanbase behaviours.
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>>574344643
Tsukihime let's goo
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Why is the shartrailer in here coping about game revenue?
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So after Sandrone with 3 buffed/meta rerun characters released and topped out at 3 CN IOS, I took that as a sign we are gonna see less hoyo characters nailing the top of the CN IOS charts for a bit. Himeko just hit 2 in JP and will probably crawl up to 1 one at some point but in CN IOS she just went from 6 to 5 so 5 may be her peak(maaaybe she gets to 4?*She did get four! but definitely not looking good for hitting top 3). Retrospectively makes Eva and Blades 8 and 10 performances look fairly solid in terms of 'performances for the region.' As a comparison Phainon smacked rank 1 right out the gate as Amphoreus's mid region push.

Now ZZZ is gonna be coming in with Remielle, who is possibly their most beautiful character creation ever(only rivaled by Evelyn in my eyes), but Im at the point where after seeing HSR and genshin not hitting nutty levels that Remielle won't be able to repeat YSG's performance. If I were a ZZZ fan Id be content if she just cracked the top 10 because all hoyo games are taking a dip right now
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>>574328810
In 6.8
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>>574344601
You are underestimating the effects of covid. Like it really fucked people, in so many aspects. I'd say genshin players are a good example of this.
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>>574344896
It's btakek, he's autistic like that. He doesn't even play the game.
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>>574344601
>but the revenue trends
>stable or increasing trends for gun and ball games on charts or sales metrics or gross profit in reports
SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIUUUUUUUUUUU
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genshin will be collaborating with valorant, hope you rike it gweilo
https://x.com/GenshinImpact/status/2060281243531628765
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>>574344643
Sethos's ascension mats sat unused for a year before his release
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>>574345050
he doesn't play any "gachashit" games as he calls them, he's literally just a negative pr paid shill shitposter
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>>574342639
Both sides are seething, hsr is just trying to cover it up by spamming sparkle/sparxie.
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Imagine if this happened to us.
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>>574345265
Anons shit on >>574342623, but would we respond differently if we got fucked over with a little sister collab
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>>574345119
>genshin will be collaborating with valorant
>Valorant
>a Riot game
>a TENCENT game
it's about ten times more likely we get a Dota collab and the probability of that is <1%
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>>574345265
don't threaten me with a good time
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>Space shit
Apologise to Natlan right fucking now
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>>574345265
>Dedicating an entire patch to shill yenless zoophile zero
HOLY GRIM
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>>574332056
Cipher
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>>574344957
Himeko got 18 QQ hours which is worse than Nefer, Zibai, Varka, Nicole and Sandrone.
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>>574345451
Natlan fucking introduced it
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>>574345451
Every mediaeval rpg ends up in fucking space
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>>574345265
Anon, we literally changed the tsarista from Bronya into an oc. Honkai has no power over us anymore.
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>>574344498
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>>574345265
It is happening to us. Snez is a "zero loli region" because we're getting the AoD in the collab.
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>>574345565
Not wizardry, that didn't happen until 6.
Or KCD
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>>574337686
You combined several schizos into one bro. Learn the schizo lore
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Imagine Aglaea collab...
She would fit right in Remuria
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I see maye is here to babysit his little shitposters
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>>574345845
>>574345449
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>>574345845
Words cannot describe how much I need Aggy's milkers in my mouth
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>>574345704
Genshin is Might and Magic and Warhammer Fantasy coded
>>574345380
It's disingenuous. Railers have all the reasons to complain, their game is being derailed (heh) to save the ZZZ ship from sinking. Zzzoophiles have no reason to bitch, but they do anyway because they act high and mighty about their game being coomer and ML coded and shit like they're above the games that actually fund Mihoyo.
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Genshin was never medieval
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>>574338502
wait, you need Xilonen on Sandy teams?
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Sandbina cosplay
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>>574345265
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>>574338502
Where's the joke Buckley?
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>>574345978
>Railers have all the reasons to complain, their game is being derailed (heh) to save the ZZZ ship from sinking.
HSR is in the same boat as of late.
Even regardless of status, why would you want a collab of a game you don't care for with people you don't like?
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>>574346047
Not really. Yae is the only 'must have' character though a second cryo character is heavily preferred
For the 4th slot you can basically pick whoever you happen to have that'd benefit the team in one shape or another. Personally I use a shielder (Nicole) so I can't get interrupted
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Fischl's Mittsommernacht piece is the hardest out of all in Myriad Repetoire.
I actually did sweat trying to even get 90%. Hand eye coordination not good enough.
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kill maye
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>>574345591
There's a nonzero chance they changed it from Bronya to the pink bitch somewhere down the line only to rugpull in the end lmao
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>>574345845
Amphoreus was just a genshin nation, it even had the surprise scifi
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Why did HSR and ZZZ fIop?
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>>574346047
everything not named Yae is cope right now, don't waste your good supports if you can afford not to, theoretical bis for Sandy right now isn't worth pursuing if it means taking a good support from a team it could accomplish a lot more in.
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>>574346571
No covid boost
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>>574338502
Cute. Also you just know that one anon is seething only because xinzoruo is a yuri artist.
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in terms of sci fi/tech level, hsr > genshin > wuwa = zzz now
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Does anyone even buy these
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>>574346779
Hoyo merch is hella expensive as it is. I have no idea who would buy these. These are not even proper standee figures.
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>>574346571
They're dogshit games
If these didn't ride the genshin's coattail they would hi3rd tier of fIop
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>>574346779
I buy 10000 of them so I can screenshot them being sold out in order to prove my favourite character still is popular
then I refund the order and say the brick in question is so popular Hoyo made a 2nd batch
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>>574346779
If they're available and cheap, yes. But that's rarely the case so no.
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who actually benefits from the collab? HSR doesn't need any help to get sales but at the same time HSR is not enough to give ZZZ some sales, what is the point of this collab?
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>>574346894
>>574346925
Don't AliExpress make cheap bootlegs?
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>>574346992
"Maximizing their fIop slay" or something
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>>574346398
I don't even understand what you're trying to say here.
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>>574346992
Maybe ZZZ and HSR teams wanted to work together and have fun? Not everything has to be a cold, cynical business decision
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>>574346571
Because their stories are shit. Shitji killed HSR with Amphoreus. ZZZ lost track after the New Eridu arc. Meanwhile we get to enjoy Fat Xiao's wonderful writing. He truly is the best writer in Mihoyo
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>>574346571
Gameplay is always what matters most and theirs is dog shit.
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>>574347003
This face is a mood
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>>574347003
I look like this
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>>574342871
Skill issue. I have 190 ER with no ER sands and no ER weapon.
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>>574347403
Post it
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>>574346779
wrio's? definitely
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>>574347429
Shaky artifact rolls
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>>574347403
she's 12
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>go into quest expecting yuri
>get straight NTR instead
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>>574347437
W*rthlessley is a collab hog and doesn't deserve to go to the beach or be let outside.
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>>574347465
C6 Citlali doesn't even need ER
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>>574347160
Because it is a rather horrible time to do a collab? They both have tons of story stuff to go through and collabs basically has nothing to do with the current ongoing story. Pausing now just feels awkward in terms of momentum.
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>>574347469
Exactly my point
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is it really true that the reason why we don't get collabs with other games snoy doesn't count because it was forced is because the lore unironically forbids it? like Fat Xiao insists on giving a collab character a lore on why they show up on Teyvat what is there purpose there instead of you know just the typical collab stuff?
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>>574333671
FUAAAAAAARRKKK
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>>574347979
those are some looooooong fingers
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>>574347952
Genshin isnt fIoppingyet
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>>574342953
>No sandy
>No odette
>No yae
>No wrio
>No cyno
In 7.0 you'll struggle with the Stygian shill boss but otherwise I think you'll be fine. At least some of the snez cast will lean into stellar, especially Tsaritsa. I don't know about all of them but Vodya is hydro for sure.
>Tfw I luckshit pulled yae back in 2.x when I was a newfag retard and didn't understand how gacha pulls worked
Worked out for me kek
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>>574347952
Not letting collabs in is based and I wish more companies took their worldbuilding and lore seriously enough to deny collabs. I can only imagine that Re:Zero, Nier Automata and Persona have already BEGGED Genshin for a shred of relevance.
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>>574347952
I genuinely doubt lore has anything to do with it since they have no qualms writing silly tongue-in-cheek references to collab items like food recipes, namecards and shit
Some times the simplest reason is the one that ends up being true and in this case they just respect the integrity of their game too much to treat it as an unceremonious billboard for other games. The aforementioned food collabs only get a pass since they're heavily one-sided with other brands begging Hoyoverse for permission to slap their characters on a water bottle or key chain
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>>574347952
HSR had lore reasons for the characters to show up in-universe (ass pull reasons you can argue but that's pretty much ALWAYS the case for any collab)
If it was that we'd have collabs already
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>>574347952
>>574348218
You can't use this excuse when miliastra is in game
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>>574347952
They could literally write in any reason for it.
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>>574348082
Long fingers are hot.
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It would be easy to create in lore reasons for collab. Genshin's world has Miliastra Wonderland.
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>>574347878
sexually assaulting Prune!
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>Hoyo added crowns, elixirs and feathers to the weekly rewards but only for CN/JP players
based, this is how you let the target audience know you secretly acknowledge them
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>>574348218
I feel like Da Wei would cave over Eva, if only because he's a massive fanboy
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>>574347952
If they get included in story content you have to explain how they don't count as descenders. If they don't get included in any story content, it's kind of a waste of resources to make the character.
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Genshin should do a collab with HSR so we get Herta
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>>574347952
collabs are trash and it's good genshin isn't tainted with this. Aloy was a mistake and is rightfully forgotten
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>>574348639
how long until someone makes a YouTube video about this?
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>>574347624
Citlali being constantly scared that lesbians will seduce her husband is funny
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Frieren is the only collab that makes sense for Genshin Impact.
The setting makes sense and they can make a new map for it.
The characters have believable abilities. Fern is electro. Frieren is anemo. Stark is physical. Frieren and Fern are catalysts while Stark is claymore but he has his axe instead.

And it would be a worldwide success.
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>>574348740
Madam Herta locking me up and then heading back to her space station with no intent of ever returning to Teyvat... I'd be so happy...
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>>574348727
You don't have to explain that, it's already implied not everyone who comes from outside is a descender.
All they need is simply not mentioning they're descenders just like with Skirk or Alice
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>>574348946
Frieren is nothing like Genshin. It's a fantasy anime, not sci fi like Genshin.
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>>574348946
no it won't. Frieren doesn't belong in genshins universe and neither does Stark or Fern or any other character named after a german word which describes their personality.
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>>574348946
how about a collab of me and youre mom lmao
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>collabs
Don't worry. We'll all become /hoyo/ soon enough...
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>>574348946
Nobody likes frieren, you dumb nigger
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>>574348727
>you have to explain how they don't count as descenders
Skirk already shows how not all aliens are counted as such, and i think event story would still go under story content.
But I'd honestly think that the easiest way to do a collab is to have Alice read the source material of said collab and make an isolated world akin to the simulanka, 6.4 memory viewing event and bottleland. The characters come out from it, and can be bullshitted out of the setting as make believe creatures, but would be restricted to the realm that alice made
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Is it weird that Genshin had a one-way only collab in HI3?

Also, Keqing is still owed her PRF weapon and moveset from that game in Genshin
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The fact that weebs elevate Frieren as some sort of serious art made me lose all hope in anime as a medium.
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>>574349179
and that's a good thing
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>>574348967
Descenders aren't necessarily just not of Teyvat, but they have the power to influence or change the fate of the world.
Iirc Skirk flat out said that she is not a descender yet she comes from another world. Alice I have no idea, has she mentioned being from another world? She predates the twins on Teyvat and she can't be the 3rd descender, wonder if she will ever be playable and we get her character stories/SQ
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>>574348967
Skirk had to be specifically explained actually
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>>574349310
They did it with HSR too despite despite the settings being linked, so it's not too strange
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A Jujutsu Kaisen collab would go hard though
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You can bypass all that Descender bullshit by having the collab occur in one of the pocket dimensions like Miliastra
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>>574349396
Which already sets the precedent for any future irrelevant aliens
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>>574349310
no? why would the bigger game take anything from the inferior one
all their collabs have been oneway. this one will be too
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Alice across worlds so just have Alice take traveler to the other planet
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there will be many collabs to come once we get rid of false sky
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>>574349241
but then they have no connection to the world, don't know any other characters and are just isekai'd into some random universe. And this sucks, part of the reason why genshin is good is because the characters know each other have voicelines about each other and don't exist in isolation. They also exist relative to the world as in they are either archons, or have jobs or are mythical beings or whatever.
What does havign lucy from fucking cypberpunk running around in liyue achieve? Where is her relation to other characters? What does she add to the world? Nothing at all.
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Frieren is the greatest literary masterpiece of the 21st century.
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>>574343961
A few years ago Russians used it to buy welkins and primos because nothing else worked for them but I don't know is it still relevant
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>>574349680
we already had Nahida give the vague excuse of burning Irminsul means "more possibilities"
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>>574349701
>Where is her relation to other characters? What does she add to the world? Nothing at all.
Emiliesisters...
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>>574348946
frieren is a collab whore franchise, even shadowverse has frieren, genshin is above that
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>>574349870
Emelie is a perfumist as a coverup because in reality she is a crime scene cleaner to cover up murders. That's her connection to the world. And other characters from fontaine know and have something to say about her.
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>>574349296
Castorice is so pretty
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The other day, some dumbass here recommended me to watch frieren and I watched it, only for the first 10 minutes and that shit was boring as fuck
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>>574350129
It gets better after the 3rd episode
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>>574349701
>but then they have no connection to the world, don't know any other characters
They can push this into having event cast members interact with the guests. Alternatively, the bubble world could get cracked and have some bleed into the world.
I'm just saying this in terms of consideration for the lore, because you'd have to write the characters entering through the firmament instead.
They can easily write that, but it's a bit more hacky with the whole select few people being able to get past it in general.
Even then, they kinda already gave themselves an out with how Alice brings things into teyvat from other worlds. This can just be limited to Alice stealing their outfits and it only becomes a skin or weapon collab.
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>>574350129
post your favorite anime gaylord
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>>574350129
When I told you to watch it I meant the tiktok edits with phonk playing in the background
nobody has time to watch the full thing lol are you insane
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>>574350129
Media illiteracy at an all time high...
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>>574349161
She will get a rerun during Vodya's banner, right?
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>>574349365
I don't think it's been mentioned, I'm just assuming due to her knowing pretty much everything about every world out there and being absurdly strong for no fucking reason
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>>574350129
>we've evolved from being unable to read books to unable to watch anime on a 2nd monitor that you glance at from time to time
I have no hope for the youth.
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>>574350242
the entire event would just be pic related.
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>>574350484
>>574350343
>this show doesn't interest me
>filtered
The words change yet the interactions still play out the same
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>>574350518(me)
and then I didn't post pic related
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Shotawrio soon…
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>unc having a melty after /gig/ger refuses to watch nostalgia slop
reminder that we all watch series through tiktok edits & ask ai for context now
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New Sandbina
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genshin is so lame....... i feel like an uninvited kid to the party
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Even if we did have a collab then in all honesty I doubt there's any character out there that would both be successful and not bring some toxic new fan base into the community.
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>>574351287
Peter Griffin
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>>574351057
>ask ai for context now
ai summary is the greatest blessing to shitty youtube videos that pad for maximum ad payout, in fact I would not be surprised if it gets paywalled soon.
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>>574351287
Goku
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>>574351057
The irony is that frieren is too modern to be nostalgic. It's literally just 2deep4u manchildren thinking they're deep for watching that trash
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*suckles*
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>>574351287
ENTER
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>>574351345
>Most popular character in south america
Bad idea
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>>574351345
Wouldn't be successful and has a toxic fan base.

>>574351508
>>574351575
Has a toxic fan bases.
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>>574350518
>>574350878
In a way, a foreign element is going to stick out or be weird.
They could just do the usual
>guest fucks off from the plot after
Bit, but in all fairness HSR kinda lucked out with fateshit since the ethereal nature of servant summoning means that they're not going go be permanent fixtures outside of your roster in the setting
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>>574351287
A collab with Atelier could be nice. I guess it might not be considered successful enough though.
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>>574351729
Touhou fanbase is mostly pedos and autistic people so they'd fit right in
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>>574351287
Naruto?
Fairy Tail?
Konosuba?
Sword Art Online?
Demon Slayer?
HunterxHunter?
Witch Hat Atelier?
Mushoku Tensei?
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>>574350427
I sort of like Alice, I find her funny and refreshing, and her VA is great but we really need some explanation for how fucking strong and all-knowing she is
>Fucks around at Teyvats borders
>Visits other worlds
>Helped Nicole learn to communicate after she lost her voice so she's old as fuck
So far seems kind of shoehorned into the story even though we knew about her since 1.x
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>>574351287
Genshit's community is already turbocancer dogshit so any other toxic fanbase coming into contact with it would just be a drop of piss in an ocean of diarrhea.
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>>574351287
You're acting as if genshin isn't a toxic fanbase, Sonic collabs didn't rape some other IOs
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Name one non-toxic fanbase
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>>574351960
She was some 1.0 writer's self-insert meant to be little beyond a funny meme character that existed behind the scenes but now that Genshin isn't just a quick cashgrab they have no choice but to make her a serious character
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Too many new gachas
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>>574352150
My favourite game or manga before it got popular
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>>574352150
skibibi toilet
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>>574352150
Ka-Blam!
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>>574351946
>all garbage except the last
wowie
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>>574352150
Nice try, but I intent to continue gatekeeping them from (You).
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>>574352193
Glad to see yanderesim is finally getting meaningful updates
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Who killed the thread?
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>>574328810
I would rather sit through 10,000 yurislop summer events with Columbina and her pet moeblob than have to see, let alone have to listen to the faggot who is on banner after Robin.
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>>574352978
Dawei
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>>574352978
zzz and hsr are having a war in both generals
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>>574352992
Aventurine is cool though
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once we're done with teyvat chapter this game will finally be allowed to rise and shine
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That's really fucking funny.
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>>574352978
hikikomero
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Are these confirmed? Is Odette signature good?
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>>574353205
Not just funny, but also Canon
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>>574353181
so trve xis, all the cool kids have slave tattooed on their neck
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C0R1 Sandrone doing 221k DPS is kind of crazy. I could probably get a few thousand more DPS with E > N1 > E animation cancels. But I can't be bothered. I honestly want to roll for C1 Sandy, even though I know it's bad.

Diona is the real brick here. Her elemental skill making you jump away from the target is obnoxious.
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>>574353246
Strictly speaking nothing is confirmed until Hoyoverse announces the banners but Arle/Ineffa is basically guaranteed to happen due to pic related and Furina is likely due to the archon marathon that Hoyo insists on doing quite often
Odette's signature is not worth it
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>>574353246
four gay girls
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>>574352158
should've stayed that way. they probably thought the playerbase would soiface when she gets revealed but she just flopped into irrelevancy
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>>574353252
Cyno, you...
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>>574352158
You can tell the OG team left because they abruptly stopped writing Teyvat Travel Guides
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>>574353709
I shall be your travel guide adventurer
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>>574353463
>Odette's signature is not worth it
I was considering Ineffa's sig if they pair her with Odette because it can't be worse than Furina's and I already have Arle's.
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So, is Wiro C6 still better than Sandrone C6?
If yes, how are they going to buff Sandrone while not buffing Wiro?
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>>574353246
>starting out with a full lesbian banner
The roots...
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Nice to Mitya
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>>574354053
>>574353564
so we're gonna do this huh
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>>574353979
they will just shill more flying enemies that only Sandrone can hit
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>>574354136
Do what?
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It's beginning to boil..
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>>574353420
I can't believe Qiqi is actually a meta pick these days. Her doing 5% of the team's damage while also buffing is just bazar. Though, she's obviously the first one to go after Diona. There's too much anti synergy between Sandrone's 15 second burst and Qiqi's 20 second burst.
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>>574353420
I regret skipping Yae Miko
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Memes aside I can't tell if illuga and flins are actually gay or if illuga is just an overly emotional wreck with PTSD.
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>>574353246
Odette has what I believe is the worse sig of the past year
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>>574353420
I saw a gigger with this same team doing 120k, what gives?
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>>574354249
we're waiting.
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For me, It's Fisxhl!
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>>574353709
Didn't someone say it flopped?
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Odette needs buffs, she's weaker than a character from fucking 2.x
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>>574354626
they are 100% faggots
Illuga had the chance to have private lesson with Aino and instead he went to have anal sex with Flins
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kek
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>>574354742
That is a bait post by HIM, surprised anons are falling for it.
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>>574354742
Could be any number of things.
Bad artifacts.
Bad rotation.
etc
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>>574354759
For what?
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>>574353979
yes everybody already knew that on day 1 of the nerf. C6 cyno also mogs her
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>>574350662
so pretty
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>>574354742
I saw Moga also do 120k with Sandrone
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>>574354824
Illuga is an experienced soldier, why should he be lectured to by an immature child?
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>>574353420
is anemo/vv not good for Sandrone?
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>>574353246
Odette sig isn't worth it unless they make its energy passive useful
Her burst isn't great at the moment
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>>574351538
sorry to hear that the concept of grief and living on is too deep for you
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>>574355125
Oh fuck off
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>>574355208
Don't reply to HIM. Pray and worship in silence.
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>>574354683
>>574355176
It's over... I'll try to get another Furina con if I have spare primos I guess.
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Have been out of here for a while.
Where is the Abyss anon? Where are the anons that made those lore tier lists? Where are the Bweh posters?
Why is no one talking about Abyss?
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>>574354862
How'd you know?
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>>574354854
Why is loom crouched so low
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Don't talk to my son.
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>>574354854
ironic. not even HSR players want to be associated with that dead game.
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I want to fuck Prune!
In her little girl parts!
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>>574355307
We talked about it yesterday
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>>574355336
the stylometry gives it away
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brainlet here
I did it lads
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>>574355307
>Where are the Bweh posters?
Genshin just makes me sigh now.
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>>574355407
many are saying this
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>>574355410
Is it possible to clear this Abyss without a good Sandrone team?
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>>574355405
>Aether & Varka
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>>574352150
Unironically, the Atelier one, at least what I have seen
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>>574355307
Abyss anon has been around you missed him
Don't know
Bwehposts are few but still around
Abyss is less discussed, SO is the big combat endgame now
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Arlecchino's wives
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>>574355457
Meant for
>>574355286
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>>574355571
Any garbage Sandrone team can clear don't need a good one
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>>574355571
Her shill boss isn't particularly hard
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>>574355289
It's tragic. I love Odette's design but her sig is ass and she has no on field capabilities
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>>574355638
Aether is so lucky
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Vesna is fairy rapeable!
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>>574350662
Will she be the next cosplayer favourite?
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>>574355804
c&c
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>>574355804
wonderful edit AetherGOD
btfo'd that tourist
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>>574353420
>E > N1 > E animation cancels.
qrd?
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>>574355336
It's one of his favorite pranks.
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>>574355789
Bitch you don't even talk about the game tf you whining about on-topic shit when all you do is mass quote other people?
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*edits my clear*
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Better than expected. This is what, 120 resin worth?
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Navia's thighs could kill a man
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People of Fontaine your sins are forg- *MUSOU NO HITOTACHI* AAAAAAACK *gets cut in half and dies while sharting*
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I love my wife and son *opens the forbidden gate*
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shaky numbers
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>>574356196
>will never happen to me
Feels bad
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>>574353246
>Ineffa
Please be confirmed, I can finally unbrick my account.
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>>574356149
A little more than that yeah, good that it counts towards something
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>>574355467
I remembered being cooked by Kotor at this game when I was a kid and didn't let it happen again
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>>574356427
Apparently some luckchads are getting crowns and feathers too. That'll never be me
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>>574356149
>didn't get the good shit
bricked >>574348639
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Can she save Snezhnaya?
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It's impressive how some of you fags are so allergic to just not baiting each other all day long. Is this what having no friends does to a mf?
>>
>>574356660
Some dude lied about his investment level and then melted down when caught, it's not that deep
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>>574348639
I don't even think I got primo gems from mine.
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>>574356660
I have a medical condition I need to call out shaky things
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>>574356195
>>
I legitimately can't tell if they really did something to make mashing through dialog faster. Looks the same to me.
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>>574356859
Sounds like you fell for it
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TOTAL
FISCHL
LOVE
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>>574356859
I think it's only in the new zone, but I haven't done it yet. Waiting until 7.0 so I can stack free longterm exploration pts for next year
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>>574356278
Good clear
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>>574356751
You bit that hook so hard that it snapped in two
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>>574356278
>no worms
Based
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>>574355467
Did none of you play black&white? How fucking young are you kids?
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>>574356627
at this point Paimon content is the only thing i looking forward to, i legit do not care about any of the revealed characters
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>>574356627
>>
>>574356278
>Beating the abyss with the shill character of the rotation
2/10
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So Paimon is the ship's AI, right?
>>
https://poal.me/xeu0jj
https://poal.me/xeu0jj
https://poal.me/xeu0jj
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>>574357103
>black&white
what's that?
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>>574356631
>>574356631
>>574356631
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>>574356985
>adds it in the new zone but not the event
What sort of spaghetti code does this game run on
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>>574357247
It's a potential theory, but it's sort of like saying paimon is a moon goddess
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>>574357364
Genshin was never meant to be this successful
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>>574355851
i thought Vesna was one of the NPCs in the trailer kek
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>>574356627
>she
>foid saving anything
no. didn't even have to open
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sustainer waiting room
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>>574328179
What's going on with Mavuika? She's really popular. Lots of players and fans love her. Why is she so behind in fan art? She's getting mogged big time.



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