Morrow editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>574203389>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Patch 1.12.0 patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-patch-1-12-0-out-now-skitarii-later-today/122573Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2 (check /vm/ for general)Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2Payday 2The Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZKilling Floor 3John Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far Westand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
We need boob plate.
We wouldn't have ammo hording/wasting problems if darktide worked like l4d where you got a large amount of max ammo and had infinite ammo spawns at preset locations.Once again l4d is proven as the best horde shooter of all time.
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>>574348886>infinite ammo spawns at preset locations.Vermintide did that too didn't it?
game sux
>>574346234 #Veteran is the ranged class but there's basically nothing in his kit that'd help him to use a flamer effectively.Nevermind that veteran is themed around being the sniping class. Like yes, lets give a flamer, a very short range weapon, to the class whose entire point is to click on heads.Only way something like this would have made sense and not suck is if all the classes could carry 3 weapons, 2 ranged weapon slots, rifle/big weapon and pistol, and then a melee weapon.That'd been the only way to make your idea feasible, but this should've been a system that the game was designed around and then also something that had been part of the game since launch.It could be possible to do now as well, but it'd realistically too much work to use dev time and money on, for objectively very little gain.Also never forget the downstream consequences, like game balance, class/build balance. Obviously this would have a big impact on player power too.Reposting since previous thread ended
>>574349325Why doesn't it have long-las or heavy stubber then
>>574349051yeah
Dukane?More like Doodookane!
Veteran needs to have access to the flamers, change my mind.He should've been the ranged weapon specialist class, with access to bolters, meltaguns, longlas I don't give a fuck that they "don't fit thematically" Fatshark can suck me off, plasmaguns and yes flamers.With the original 4 classes sure, maybe that's a way to make Vet/Zel unique, but nowadays you bring classes for their kits, not their weapons. Especially now that the weapons are fucking shared anyway.>>574349325>to the class whose entire point is to click on heads.first of all, that's not true, vet is about killing specials AND in addition to that it can headshot well. In many builds you don't even go the +30% weakspot damage, let alone the fucking keystone. WSDMG is good, don't get me wrong, but he can do fine without it.The vet's not the only class that can snipe specials anymore, we've got the skit, the scoomer and the pig to do so nowadays, vet is just the ammo slut and pissHP provider, flamer would let him be taken in lieu of zealot, seeing as they both give the team golden showers.I am 100% right about all of this, by the way.
Orox Mk II & Mk III Battle Maul & Slab Shield
LOL HAHA WOULDNT IT BE FUNNY IF WE SPAWNED EVEN MORE ENEMIES WHILE YOU WERE THE LAST PERSON ALIVE HAHA LOL WOULDNT THAT BE GOOD BALANCE AND FUN LOL
Someone told me about a year ago when I was gifted Darktide that a 2+ wounds curio exists but is extremely rare, is this true?
>>574350208It does not exist
>>574350208No, you have been pranked
>>574350354I can't believe my friend lied to me.
>>574350208Yeah, you just need to roll for it more.
>>574349470Because the devs didn't give a shit about making them.Also largely, the helbore already fulfills the longlas role, long range, hard hitting DMR. It having only iron sights is just a by-product of the devs ditching the whole weapon customization mechanic where you could put different sights/scopes onto guns. While braced autos fill the heavy stubber role, ie. a braced bullet hose made for suppressing fire (mind you suppression is a dead mechanic and a relic from Darktide's earlier days)Also we got bunch of hive scum artwork of them using loads of different weapons like taser spears and hand flamers and even heavy stubbers. They just never added/made those because the devs are lazy.
>>574350517>helbore already fulfills the longlas roleNo
>>574349894Vet is still the quintessential click heads sniper class.
>>574350517>braced autos fill the heavy stubber roleNo
>>574349917Should be power maul and slab shield.What's worse is that the weapon is already called powermau_slabshield in the game files so the devs are 100% aware of what the weapon should be. And they intentionally cucked the weapon out of the power activation mechanic.
>>574350208no but 301 stat weapons do exist
>>574350602>>574350742Yes.
codename: Devout
>>574349894>Veteran needs to have access to the flamers, change my mind.Buttmad >Vet main that can't stand that his class has to be on shouty support bitch duty 100% of the time.Here's a reality check: taking a (ammo consuming) secondary just for killing hordes is a losing game. Psyker does it for free, other classes have massive melee cleave. Veteran is supposed to be a support/pick class.
>>574351107Your buttplug has a code name?
>>574351253I main zealot, actually, I just think it would be cool as fuck to have a vet with a flamer
Speaking of flamers - do crit hits apply double burn, like the psyker staff?
>>574348886Vermintide did that. The max ammo was still small, but occasionally you'd encounter "nuln crates" where everyone could fully top up. There were also ammo bags lying around where one person could top up.
Probably aa stupid question but do chaos demons actually ever fight the imperium? I know in tabletop they are a faction so they can fight guard, marines, etc. But canonically they can't exist out of the the warp, right?
>>574351701no they can get in and most of the time they are banished, not killed, I think. I remember fighting one in freeblade
>>574351580Yes
>>574351701...you serious?chaos routinely creates stabilized warp rifts that allow daemons to enter realspace and exist in the area around that riftthe beasts of nurgle in darktide are daemons, that's why they dematerialize on death
>>574351701chaos cultists love summoning demons so yeah they can exist outside the warp
>>574350208It absolutely exists, you just have to roll for it enough. Most people don't know about it and yet will spout absolute bullshit thinking they're right.
>>574351701Did you think all the rituals and sacrificial altars were just for looking cool?
>>574351910fake AI generated image
>>574351972why not
>>574351896But as an actual force? I know of more isolated instances and only temporarily. Have there been actual instances in which the imperium fought actual demons as a fighting force? An army or a battalion.
>>574351701Yes. They don't have standing armies in the galaxy at large, but they show up. Normally when shit hits the fan. One example is if a planet gets engulfed in a warp storm. That can be "close enough" to being in the warp that daemons can walk free. Another example is if they get summoned by cultists via a ritual. Their time in real space can be vaguely described with an analogy of a bucket of water with a hole in the bottom. They're summoned with a full bucket and return to the warp when the bucket empties. It takes time for the bucket to empty, and that chaos god's influence on the battlefield might help refill that bucket to prevent it from emptying or slow the rate that it empties. For example a khorne bloodthirster, once summon, might be able to persist until it runs out of things to kill.
>>574351910Bet this is the same tranny who made the skitarii fake
>>574352146To exemplify, in sm2 campaign they bring in 1 singular demon, most of what you actually fight are thousand suns husks or sorcerers and zangors.
>>574351253NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR HAVOC MINIGAME
>>574351910This would be nice on martyrdom zealot.
>>574352429What do you play then? Heresy?
>>574352396in sm1 you fight against bloodletters of khorne. I think those count as demons.
>>574352024Oh yeah? How about this?
>>574352396the discs tzaangors ride are also demons
>>574352520Yes, as the developers intended
>>574352679tzaangor spearman
>>574352146Within the galaxy at large, that's generally when they actually exterminatus a planet. Secondaries think that the inquistion is trigger happy and loves killing worlds at the first sign of daemons. But normally the big guns like that come out for when a world gets so corrupted that daemons can readily walk free. Generally the end-game for cultists is to perform rituals that summon a warpstorm over the world itself, which can let daemons walk freely upon the world.Normally such conflicts would be within the eye of terror itself, and I think that in general the Imperium has just tried to contain the eye of terror rather than do much conflict within it. Direct confrontation with daemonic forces is generally handled by the Grey Knights. Usually the knights aren't there for fighting the daemons on a level playing field. They normally have some specific mission objective where they get in, complete the mission, and get out.
>>574352631i don't trust like thatwhat class is it on? I want a full webm of you opening your inventory, hovering the item, equipping it with two other +1 wounds for a total of +4 (as opposed to the regular maximum +3 for us mortals) and then quickplay auric and spawn in and i want to see all the wounds. Do this and I will fuck my ass in defeat.
>>574352913Stop wasting your time on the retard
>>574352817based
All +21% health curios with +5% health each is x2.05 health. Probably.Explain to me why I wouldn't healthmax my ogryn.
>>574353005I WANT TO BELIEVE
>>574352854>Direct confrontation with daemonic forces is generally handled by the Grey KnightsSo something like Imperial Guard vs A full blown army of demons is mostly something you'd see only in tabletop and not really in the actual lore?
>>574353121>All +21% health curios with +5% health each is x2.05 health. Probably.probably not, if im being totally honest with you famalam
>>574353121you don't need more health as ogryn
>>574353395Have you tried?How fast are you denying the medkits currently?
>>574353395stfu nerd>>574353121healthchud ogryn is viable on havocs, and also kinda funit's not a free win, you need to pay more attention to your positioning, since you have way smaller toughness buffor vs gooners, but otherwise it's viablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8vqCz1wtjY
Wait, so how does the math work again here?If I've got 3x15% corruption resistance, and the Simple Minded for additional 40% how much corruption resist do I end up having?
>>5743541581x0.85x0.85x0.85, and the 40% is probably counted like x0.6 too. 1 minus that is 63,1525% resist.
>>574353191The guard might fight an army of daemons in the final days of getting their shit pushed in on a dying world. Situations where chaos has won the fight and they're just mopping up the survivors. In that situation the daemons were summoned or materialized as the result of the planet falling into the warp. The daemons are no longer fleeting/temporary in that situation because it's the endgame of chaos corruption of a world.Offensively the guard won't be sent against a daemon world. That shit's too fucked up. They'll nuke it from orbit. If there is something important that needs to be done on the world before the nuking, then specialists might be sent in. Grey Knights are the best for the task. But normal space marines, Inquisitorial strike teams, Assassins might be sent instead. I can see the Ecclesiarchy and the Mechanicus sending bolter bitches or mechanicus forces into a pit of daemons if they desperately wanted to extract something that they covet before nuking the world. I suppose a Custodes would be up for the task, but I'm unfamiliar with their newer lore. Normally they hang out on Terra I think. Any survivors of conflicts against such complete corruption will be suspected of being compromised. If you're just a lowly guardsman who managed to walk away from that kind of a clusterfuck, then the imperium will probably just kill you to be on the safe side. It's kind of a sliding scale of suspicion depending on how awesome that you are. You'll just be killed if you're normal, you might have your memories erased or be under constant observation if you're a VIP, and you might just be trusted to be pure if you're a grey knight or custodes.
>>574354540So it's really bad to stack both curio corruption resist and the "I'm actually, clinically retarded and I've got the diagnosis to prove it" talent?damn shame, was hoping for like 80% resistwhy do the fucking nigger clankers get a better tank node than the tank class?
>>574354857>tank nodeAnon the only thing you can """tank""" with corruption resist is a beast of nurgle, which is actually bad because it now runs away and everyone has to chase it. There is no """tanking""" benefit to having corruption resist. None of the things that inflict corruption are things you should want to be taking damage from.
>>574354857Because your flesh is weak.
>>574354857with 3 curios you have 36% resistancewith 3 curios + retard talent, 63% resistanceIt's up to you if that's bad or not.
>>574348481should we include that Ace Team Chuthulu game on the Also Exist section?
>>574355010I was thinking about retardmaxxing, seeing how many straight-up H40 crusher overheads a man can tank>just dodge them yadda yadda skill issuenigga it's academic curiosity, I am aware you should not be taking damage in the first place lol
why the FUCK are corruption talents split into grim and grimless versions when there's basically no benefit to grabbing the grim anyway
>>574354857Corruption is flat damage so Ogryn's already beefy health gives him a substantial buffer before resistance.
>>574355051>3 curio slots or 1 talent out of 30I guess being a lobotomite is better, 63% is not bad but not good enough to run, considering the costs
>>574355369Legacy from vermintide. What's funnier is that the grimoire resistance only applies to the initial flat corruption chunk from holding a book, but does not apply to the corruption over time (which is handled by normal corruption resistance)
Wait so they actually gave us the option to customize and tune Skitarii voices? That’s pretty cool you have to admit. Also what’s the consensus on the deluxe Skitarii? Worth it?
>>574354857>>574355412Yeah this, corruption and hp go hand in hand, and ogryn has twice as much hp as sclitty.
>>5743548573 Health curios with Corruption Resistance and Simple Minded will put you at a point where you can stand in Blight Spreads for several minutes if that's what you're after>>574355272Ah, don't bother. You can't really get to a point where you can tank more than one Crusher overhead no matter what you do. Ogryn does get outdone by True Grit on Arbitrator in that respect.As long as you have 140+ Toughness and 190+ Health in H40 you can tank one Crusher overhead with some stacks of Feel No Pain.
>>574356001from what I've seen, every person using the deluxe skins is a certified retard who don't even know the basics of this video game. But it looks Ok.
>>574356001Always buy the Deluxe to support our guys at Fatshark!
>>574355272>I was thinking about retardmaxxing, seeing how many straight-up H40 crusher overheads a man can tankZealot can tank... one I think, with Shield of Contempt and the wound damage reduction. Still a lot of corruption with 1 corruption res, but I also don't take 5% health because that would indeed be pretty retarded. Arbitrator can tank however many you have multiples of 50 health with True Grit.
>>574356001>caring about deluxe skins for any class
>>57435312126%x3=78%or is this a case of swedish math
>ogrynpostingbasedSo what's the verdict, is it worth it in Havocs?Mind you it's contesting a point with a +25% toughness replenishment or something better, you get the point
>>574356530building to fail is always bad
>>574356001They didn't make the deluxe skins in non-mars colors so I spit on them
>>574356458the cop is worth itscum - kinda but not really, certainly not the weapon skinsskit - lol
>>574353121>3x +21% health>3x +30% toughness regen speed>Lynchpin>Skittle auraThat would be an optimal setup
>>574356530Nope. If you got someone going down often you're better off just having 2-3 revive speed curios. You have plenty of ways to create an opening to get someone up even in a complete shitstorm
>>574356502No you're right it's like that, addition to the base not stacking
>>574356640wrong. I've already saved many havoc runs using the medicae skull.
>>574356640building to take damage is building to fail dodging and sliding correctlytherefore +toughness and damage reduction is always bad
>>574354857>why do the fucking nigger clankers get a better tank node than the tank class?Because they need it because of lore, and they made sure to put it behind a tax node
>>574355010>everyone has to chase itYou mean everyone has no problems magdumping its weakspot for like 200% damage
>>574356973>Because they need it because of loreWHERE ARE THE RADIUM CARBINES THEN, YOU SWEDISH NIGGERSAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>574356530Worth it for the revive speed.Anyone saying otherwise is the guy you're always picking up. From a ledge or otherwise.
>>574356886That and raw increased revive speed like >>574356823 said is fine. Anything that requires a condition where your teammates need to be in trouble in order for you to gain any benefit from is just bad.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>574356001>Also what’s the consensus on the deluxe Skitarii?It's ugly, it's only mars colors, and it's not unique enough compared to default martian robe. Jackass fart mask isn't even cool. The only good part about it is the augments color schemes (they are better than free options), and they don't even advertize them.Only arbites deluxe edition is worth buying. Scum gets lots of good cosmetics from penances and you will not even want to look at deluxe skins, and Skittle deluxe skins are bad.
>>574357164now we agree
Psyker should have like 10 more base toughness
>>574349027>>574349724>>574357175
>KF3 SEASON 4 NEXT WEEKAre you excited blast haver bros? We have quite a bit to look forward to!>new suicidal difficulty between hard and HOE>new roadmaphttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/683007850971136562
>>574357149>stun immunity when picking someone up>picking someone up makes you autoblockfor what purpose
>>574356957You should definitely try to hit some key breakpoints for maximum toughness if you can. That plays into perfectly dodging and blocking. You don't want to be so flimsy a Roastie kick on H40 instantly downs you
>>574357501bodied that freak
>>574357545
>>574357545And another really cool thing is they are workig on some modding toolkit. Works also on console LOL?So..... will modding save this game bros? Only time will tell
>>574357545amazing
>>574356001Deluxe head for those who want to channel their inner tech priest.
>>574357824nigga yo mama gives deluxe head LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>574357545>roadmapOff a cliff lol
I see the resident slavgroid just woke up
>recently started eating shit in game very often>think it's lack of sleep or something>turns out my kms switch is dying and eats my keyboard inputs
>>574358173I'm here since this morning, the fuck do you want
>>574358369Z
>>574357476Psyker should have 1 gold toughness
>>574358487weird that this translates to "four years" in russian
>>574358487
stop the cringe
>>574358685>>574358621
>>574358369Find a job.
No politics here niggers.Talk about stamina maxed ogryn builds.
>>574358369You are, but I've just came from work
>>574358949>can call slavs slavgroids>can't post one letter
>>574359089What if you push taunt maxxxed with the extra stamina
I think Ryken is one of the better tide tubers but why the fuck does he insist thunderous on an arc maul is a good idea
>>574349969He is attempting to revive?FIVE.HUNDRED.MUTANTS.
>>574359089nigga nobody cares about being called slavgroid lol, stop falseflagging>>574358949what would you even use the stamina for, blockmaxxing? maximising the uptime on Pumped Up? sprinting?
>>574359386I cared
>>574359386Push push push, hide behind shield, yell we're the strongest
>>574358949Don't max it.1 Stamina curio1 BCR on curio2 Stamina regenLast Guard blessingThis is optimized.
Wait, you told me voltaic doesn't stun havoc enemies
>>574359386I'm Slav and I find the term Slavgro*d extremely offensive it hurts my racial sensibility.
>>574359610>This is optimized.Gay ass
>>574359431don't, thenpussy>>574359506DIY taunt, you can bring PBB if you want to shovemaxx
>>574359893Z
>>574359232it doesn't really have a lot of competition for more damage blessings. Thunderous is the most consistent in improving kill times against maulers/crushers.
>>574359943But it has good carapace adm without any rending, every other class already brings default 2.5% brittleness, he has phosphor pistol that applies 15% brittleness.Why not take hammerblow to actually stun shit when your meme shocks are on cd?
>>574359943NTA but Arc Maul can just proc the brittleness on shocked, why bother with the thunderous
UP IN DA CLUB!
>>574348886space marine 2 does this
>>574360156you can take both hammerblow and thunderous. Arc maul doesn't have any must take blessings eating things up and most are more conditional. The arc boosting blessings are cute, but uptime is comparatively low.
>>574360445Cries in grenade launcher bolter.It was just too strong for this precious world.
>>574360445not on higher difficulties
>>574351910>>574353139
full of mischief is that grey weapon havoc applicant
>>574356001It's a small detail but I liked the deluxe hands.
>>574359308I wish that the game would spawn more crushers/maulers/ragers. The game needs a stormvermin equivalent to throw at us too. More of those elites and not>we just spawned so many specials that the audio system broke. LOLLMAO"
>>574360696>The arc boosting blessings are cute, but uptime is comparatively low.That's true, but why brittleness
>>574360170He explained that it applies it 4 times in one hit if you have thunderous, shock on crit talent (???) and activate the maulBut I don't understand why you need it on arc maul that has 90% carapace adm
>>574358118>>574361771>>574358865Kek
>>574362735I laff'd
>>574360696>The arc boosting blessings are cute, but uptime is comparatively low.no, you get five 12.5% chances to instantly kill, thats does a lot to make space, especially if youre doing voltiatic and zap everyone around you
>>574362735>opportunist>67this guy is all the memes
>>574362187Consistency mostly. its competition for more damage is Execution (+20% against staggered), All or Nothing (upto +40% power at zero stamina) .Even though you can get brittleness on crit, arc maul's crit rate isn't so great that thunderous doesn't reach the cap sooner and provide a faster kill time on enemies. Combining them just makes reaching it faster. Arc maul's carapace damage is good but still has room for the full brittleness bonus, while its high flak modifier means brittleness is only giving the over bonus damage of ~10% against flakAll or Nothing can squeeze out more damage but requires stamina management to do soExecution is fine but conditional on the stagger state of the enemy. During pressed engagements where enemies like to phase through each other when one gets staggered, the available damage bonus can vary. While the 5 seconds grace of brittleness is long enough to recover from an interruption/intervention. Or against an unstaggered monster, perhaps less common in a proper Havoc team but it does happen.Ultimately it depends on how you play, what you value in a fight, and if you consider what your team brings.
>female slavic arbites voiceim in love
>>574351580>MANDATED EDICT: BOWLING
>>574364039>Looking good Father!
Did they add new server regions?I do not recall seeing these two.
>>574365262The lex says no jerking off unless she watches you.
what's ogryns best melee against captain shields
>bursters just walk through my shove Wow. Very cool!
>>574365597chain fists
>>574365291robot girly man
>>574365262https://files.catbox.moe/cfcqlo.mp4For me, it's the reverent
ogryn's dodges are very swoocy
>>574365597anything that can light attack quickly. Out of the standard meta weapons, power maul or shield inch out the pickaxes. But ogryn's best weapons against void shields are shooting it with ripperguns or twin-linked stubbers.
>>574366275I look forward to when Rowboat Girlyman finally bites off more than he can chew again or gets burnt out because the emperor tries to use him fully as his living avatar like in Godblight.>>574366315Kind of regret making my skitty a dude now.
>>574351910Holy fuck, I want that for my zealot, I could run an extra toughness curio with it.
>>574365262This is my but with fem fanatic and fem maul.
>>574358590This but ogryn.Just give him 5 or 10 gold toughness that he has all times. Obviously if he takes toughness damage he loses it and has to regen it back.
>>574361771>instant decline on every application>no frens to play with>no copeg fren codes to add>no hopeIt's over for me
>>574358949>>574359386Ogryn should get a talent to regen toughness from blocking attacks.
>>574367296>this>fatsharkYou know this would mean that you can lose toughness by being shot at, then block with your shield to regain toughness and lose stamina, then get shot at to regain stamina because you lost toughness, and repeat indefinitely (with enough +% block efficiency) which would then get it nerfed because it's overpowered in malice
>>574365216>All or Nothing (upto +40% power at zero stamina) .I would like to use this blessing more but I think it should work based on a timer.Say you deplete your stamina to 0, you get 40% strength for 6 seconds.Not sure if that is easy or even possible to code, or if it's too OP, but that could be neat and fun to use.
>>574367524Can't have shit in Tertium.
>>574362884>you get five 12.5% chances to instantly killThat is a 51% chance of it doing nothing
>>574362884>>574368037Neither anon here. Isn't it just 4 chances? I don't think that the original target that you're physically striking with the maul counts. I think it just counts the secondary targets.It's also worth noting that the arc targets aren't purely random. It has biasing logic. According to kuli's mechanics guide for skittles, the prioritization is:>1: Armored pox hounds/crushers/maulers/scab ragers>2: all enemies with the "elite" tag>3: all other enemies.So these arcs are biased towards elites. In modes where enemies are bullet sponges, rolling the dice for instant kills can clear them out at a decent pace.
Where do you find people to play Havoc's with.
>>574368907arc maul arcs 3 timesarc rifle arcs 1 time or 3 times braced
>>574367296After all these years, I'm finally not seeing TOOOOOOOOONKgryns anymore, please no.
>>574369861Pls yes.
>Auric Storm Survivor 4/5Predict how my next game will go
>>574371181Keep your fingers close to alt f4
>>574368907Arc target bias is a mixed bag for Voltagheist; only affects man-sized so it's a dead roll on Crushers/Bulwarks and avoids vanguards.Compare with Ogryn's club Haymaker. it's not resource dependent, chance to roll against every man-sized enemy hit by every heavy attack, has a higher chance to proc. And yet still only just competitive with Thunderous and maybe the 1-2 other good blessings to be paired with the must take Skullcrusher.
>>574366589>Chain scytheman they just slap that shit on anything don't they?
My games for the Skitarii are divided into exactly two types: 1) run without damage 2) I'm fucked. This looks very much like a psyker.
>>574371486chained heavy hits is slightly worse despite the fact it goes higher
Arc maul attack patterns are too complicated for my smooth brain
>>574371903Fatshark Fact:Haymaker only requires chained hits to stack up, it doesn't drop if you whiff, or light attack, or even switch to ranged, it just has a timer for its stacks. it's special like that.
Havoc is actually such a shit game mode that attracts the biggest mouth breathers. Get these smiggers out of my lobbies RAAAH
>>574373253smiggers? nah mate smiggers are everywhere
why is wolfer such a fucking jobber? at least rasknitt succeeded for a while and blew up like two separate cities, and even temporarily defeated the heroesmeanwhile wolfer just seethes, loses, and cries to Mysterious Voice-sama (who is also an absolute jobber who doesn't even get to be Be'lakor, like the mysterious voice of vermintide 2)
>>574371687it's a type 2 when theres more crushers/ragers than you have charges of chordclaw.
what's the difference between an Alpha, an alpha primus and a vanguard? what helmet should I wear for a melee build with arc mau land voltaic emitter?
>>574371181Interzone Void Foundryplex. You'll get barreled off the edge at the start of the level (friendly fire) or a Chaos Spawn will, uh, spawn.
>>574371181poxhounded in a corner teammates are oblivious and only get it off when you've taken 80% health in corruption then a grenadier sets you on fire while you're in the recovery animation
>>574372593yeah, but its an opportunity cost of youre already killing and by the time it stacks up most things would be dead outright compared to instant zaps
>>574375424>teammates are oblivious andthink they MUST MUST MUST melee push it, then get downed because they're so hyperfocused on you that they forget to block or dodge.I swear so many pubbies don't know you can just shoot dogs.
>>574373826I mean he’s a pretty low tier threat when you look at the wider picture man. There’s only so much he can accomplish, Admonition is a third rate cult and the Moebians while apparently a decent fighting force can’t work magic and can still be so yeah. If anything it’s somewhat miraculous they’ve made it this far.
>>574375453Haymaker stacks up on each enemy hit, one or two swings through the enemy caps it. It decays one stack at a time, and due to the timer it won't drop throughout combat and even can persist between combats. It's uptime is quite high.
Just got to lvl 30 and did my first maelstrom mission.... well I tried at least.It's hard!
>>574355010>There is no """tanking""" benefit to having corruption resistFart gas (both bombers and modifiers)Burgle snail trailKilling daemonhosts that the vet shot
>>574378463The real difficulty in this game depends on who you have for teammates. I find most maelstrom to be quite easy because the ultimate glue-eating retarded turbomongols tend to avoid those missions.
I think the psychic wall should at least be as tall as the bubbleAbsolutely gimped by any elevation because it only reaches as high as your person
I'm getting worse at everything I do especially video games. I'm just doing worse each day despite accumulating more and more hours. I'm worthless stupid shit
I'm getting better at everything I do especially video games. I'm just doing better each day while accumulating more and more hours. I'm a cool, funny guy who's good at book reading and math.
>>574381498Stay in my heresys>>574381929Stay out of my heresys
>>574381498Take a break, do something else for a while.Had that happen with havoc was losing lot of games so I put whole darktide off for a while.Try coming up with something else or some other hobby related thing to do for a while. Like going to the gym, taking up cooking or baking. Hell, woodworking even.
>>574381498Are you by any chance Indian? Unironically asking.You remind me of a jeet poster from somewhere else.
>reading build guides>realizing fatshark randomly changed a bunch of the weapon mark names at some pointWhy?
>>574382486Nobody knows and it was regarded as a fucking retarded decision when it happened.
>>574382370I'm not brown
>>574383140You didn't deny being Indian.
>>574383294Ok I'm not
>>574383445It's too late.
>>574382486The Swedes are steadfast in their belief that they know better than everyone else on every topic no matter how retarded that they are.
This game is really pushing the limits of my aging hardware. Considering buying a steam machine just so I can run this game on medium settings
>>574383520ok
i want reds and it's not funny anymore
>>574383613it's not just your hardware, anon. this game is abysmally optimized
No i don't want you to drag me into a havoc 40 PLEASE
>>574383613Make sure that the game didn't turn on fucking raytracing.
>>574383613>he boughted virtual hats that he can't even see clearlyjej
>>574383613nigger KRILL YOURSELFand stop being poor
But what about the Rippergun?
Delete havoc
>>574383613>Bro i have a toaster but i buy all the skins!!maybe stop being a fucking retard get a job and put some of that away and buy not retarded shit???
>>574384413what about it
How carryable is havoc supposed to be. I've lost around 8 havoc runs this morning all between 25 and 40 and i'm consistently doing the most damage, killing the most specials but it feels like each loss is irrecoverable. Am i just that shit, is the game bullshit or are my teammates dragging me down? Is havoc over 25 a gamemode where you need premades?
>>574386218You do what havoc hosts normally do, filter out and reject join requests from known retards who won't pull their weight.
>>574384413i Like it.
>>574386159Yes... what about it...
>>574386329It's funny how the havoc gamers dont realise or dont care that mods like this is steadily killing the already small havoc scene. No new player is going to bother grinding up their level when supersweats assumes everyone who isnt level 2000 is a shitter declines them constantly. It's a problem Fatshark should fix, but it's also a problem the community continues to make worse
>>574386159What indeed...
hestia owes me sex...
>>574387341She's married to the Emperor Himself
>>574387285Wow. It's almost like the entire purpose of Havoc is to permanently silo the most anti social deranged transsexuals away from the average player. Crazy.
>>574387341Dukane owes me pegging.
>>574387341*caves your head in*
>>574387763i had to do a triple take when she asked to touch me the first time
Hive scum should get dual chainswords as weapons.
Hive scum doesn't need anything new
>>574387842
>>574387285I don't care>No tryhard frame>No tryhard title>Not using a meta build>Doesn't have maxed out curios>Using Arbites*rejects havoc join request*
>>574388785Arbites is as good as ogryn
>>574381498I hope you’re not that guy in the other general>>574382136Kek
>>574383613The steam machine seems like it sucks dick so that would probably be a mistake you should definitely upgrade though
>>574387285just add a quickplay havoc queue separate from the premade lobbies
Heavy attacks should cost stamina and pierce armour.
>Far Far West hasn't gotten an update in agesI had faith in that game too...
>>574389089DECLINED
>>574389915stamina is already used for too much in this gameI miss when being an enduring ubermensch in games was automatically presumed so they could challenge you in other ways, now every vidya protag passes out from a few meter's sprint
>>574390179>Game that requires you to have friends to actually play is failingwew
>>574387763>>574387341>>574387842made for morrow and rannick to tag team ONLY
>SkiTARDii shitting out more DMG than my Shiv Scum just by bringing the arcgun>Didn't even run Chord claw It's time to admit that the nerfs the shivs got were undeserved.
>>574375424>Mutant wave>got grabbed by the 6th or so mutie and thrown around a corner into the path of three snipers>someone instantly left and got replaced by a bot as this happened>someone else ran up to me, got 9/10 through the revive, then let go of the key early and sprinted away>died seconds afteroops
>>574393749>wound curiosI'm not picking him up
died to peril once and rest of team ate shit DDD
Peril The Psykerpus
>>574395217and those are bad because?????????????????????????
>>574395730i'd steal this name if i played psykerthank you for the laugh anon
>>574352679FUCK these niggers and zoanthropes.
HTNFakecel was the first good arbites i ever played with. Dogshit class for mouth breathers but this guy made it work
Is there any mod that just give me wallhacks for Poxbursters?I'm tired of this supposed loud enemy just being quiet, sometimes still dealing damage (and still absolute shitton) despite being pushed back and I dodged away, armies of them appearing at once despite one fuck up with them potentially getting you killed and generally being peak swede design artificial difficulty dogshit.
>>574396889If you're getting use out of three extra wounds between medicae stations and you're not a martyr zealot, you aren't good enough at the game to be worth babysitting
>>574356001i like the body skin but it doesnt have any different color variant for the other forge worlds, which is a shame
Dickot was the only good hivescum i ever played with. Dogshit class for ADHD babies but this guy made it work.
>>574397053damage radius mod or whatever it's called that shows the radius of anything explosive
>>574397053https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/440there are no "true" wallhacks on nexus because fatshark/nexus are actually vigilant about keeping them removed
>try running inferno staff psyker>smite feels redundant because it's another peril costing crowd control attack>assail feels like ass because it doesn't do shit against armored enemies and is difficult to snipe with because of the weird projectile paths>end up bringing brain burst + scryer to spam at long range>don't have good duelling sword on hand or tons of resources so run a 470 tac axe I got from a missionI'm grinding the staff mastery now and trying to scrounge enough material to upgrade it in the process.after a couple heresy games I don't feel comfortable taking this into higher difficulty until my staff has full blessings and higher base damage. is BB + inferno + tac axe a viable build or do I absolutely have to get a good duelling sword and learn a different blitz if I want to progress this into auric?
>>574398112smite does what the purg does but without actually killing anything, BB is the correct choice. Dueling sword is decent, force greatsword is great .Honestly auric just comes down to how good are you at your fundamentals. If you can't keep yourself safe you need to figure it the fuck out before worrying about min maxxing your build
>>574387763I absolutely NEED sex with Hestia Prine
>>574398224Well I can just run with the tac axe out the whole game and I'm reasonably safe because I have plenty of experience on it from zealot and veteran. It's just that my damage is absolute ass if I don't attempt to burn things. But then when I try to use the staff I start fumbling and taking damage.
What were the Admonition doing here?
>>574398815i wouldn't worry about it
>>574390179>evil raptor: 8 employees>fatshark: 180 employeesYet they update at roughly the same pace. Curious.
>>574398815Most likely a daemonhost binding ritual, but with a big time demon not the small fry they leave littered around.
>>574395730You’re very creative :) >>574398815We don’t know. Most agree they were trying to summon a daemon or perhaps use him as a conduit for a Warp portal but it’s anybodys guess.
>>574399098speaking of small fry when is the psyker getting a daemonhost companionimagine being able to tag shit and sic your pet on itlore accurate btw
>>574399184>himIsn't this Rinda, not Rodin?
>>574399071fartshart has about 8 people not on vacation at any given time so it makes sense
STOP SHOWING OFF! You'll NEVER be as good as Okri!
Wow the Emprah gifted me another gun that's not only unfun to use but also just straight up unviable even on AuricI can see why Chaos is so strong now
>>574398815I thought they were bringing back the guy twin after you killed him?
>>574399949I'm not cousin Okri, I'm Ogri :)
>>574400135COMPLAINING ABOUT THE EMPEROR'S GIFT! MANDATED EDICT: FORCED TO PLAY WITH ESL CONSOLEFAGS!
>>574400735AAAIIIIIEEEEEE NOOOOO JUST FLAY MY SKIN OFF AND FORCE ME TO CHARGE NAKED INTO A HERETIC GUNLINE INSTEAD PLEASE
>>574400735oh nooo not the ESL! I've an idea. you can play with your niggers instead, they're not ESL!
>>574400943>implying ESL consolefags can't also be niggers
>>574401078>your
>7 wound level 30 zealot getting raped to death every single enemy encounter in damnation>takes the heals when he's only corrupted 2/7 over our 2 wound other guys who need it
>feel no pain grants 2.5% toughness replenishment per stackThis is crap right? When you're low on stacks is when you would actually need its effects
>>574401224arabic mathematician muhammad al-khwarizmi accidentally discovered the number 0 when he was attempting to calculate the number of how many zealiggers deserve to live
so why the fuck is the moebian steel facility frozen, again? it's literally inside the hive
>>574401784high up
>>574401784winter
>>574401559It would definitely be the last point you would spend
>>574398815It's in the "inter-zone void" which is basically a large space in between actual zones It's also right in between the ice cream manufactories
>>574400135>Join chaos>get 7000 shotguns
>>574401784Something something being forgotten centuries ago. Also foundryplex generated lots of heat, the frozen place is perfect for cooling down.https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Clandestium_Gloriana
>>574401657I thought zero was discovered in India?
>>574402651what that tongue do?????
>>574402651>500 shotgunners
What would be some cool ideas for new levels?
>>574403389throneside 2
>>574403437But what part of Throneside?
>>574403389Upper spires with the revelation that the cult has spread further than anyone knew
>>574403510anything pretty
>>574402651>Chaos shotguns are better than ours>Chaos plasma guns are better than ours>Chaos gets longlas guns>Chaos gets hotshot lasgunsWhy are we so underequipped, bros?
>>574403389WH40K equivalent of VT1's Waylaid when Darktide 2 comes out or End of Service happens.
>>574404191Better question is why isn't the warband salvaging those weapons from the field like they do with others.
>>574404191'CAUSE YOU'RE A FUCKING REJECT!>>574404324'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT A KARKING HERETIC AND YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING THEIR SHIT!
>>574404502still get a bolter and relic swords THOUGH
>>574404502oh how that karking fragging shit bothers me
am I missing a blessing?these are all the blessings that allow you to break the rules and bypass carapace armor in mixed hordes right?
Nightmare Troubadour is /coopg/
>>574405562You are the only person on Earth who knows what that means.
>Mechanicus have their own special autopistols>Skitty class just gets the generic (bad) autopistolWhy are swedes so lazy?
>>574407337>(bad) autopistol
>>574407337Damn the gun comes with its own hand? What a deal!
realizing that because the character creator is so bad i may as well uglymaxx instead. it's lore accurate
>>574387341>I'll thank you not to stare at me like that.>I am not staring at you. You are standing in my staring place.She is definitely a functioning autist of some kind
>>574408230Dorn but lesbian
>>574407740we can't truly have shredder autopistol simps here, surely?
>>574408464shit she actually does look a lot like dorn lmao
>>574408517Call her "Walltism"
>>574408506you know those autopistol, devil's claw, no shout, level 1300 veterans wearing the f2p cosmetics and spamming vacuum capsule you get in your aurics?they're in this thread
>>574404646I think it's endearing
>>574408506>>574408629>I don't know how to use it so it must be bad
>>574408230>Its MA'AM!
>>574408763sorry to be how you find this out, anon, but a lot of older lesbians look like this and they also hate trannies, probably a lot more than you do
>>574408629Devils claw IV is good thoughbeit
>>574407740Shredder autopistol feels the best out of any autogun in the game.Somehow it's infinitely more lethal than the oversized assault rifles we get.
>>574408934Erm that's not what Mr. Estrogen said though, he said that's the worst Devil's Claw even though they are virtually identical except for movesets so you're wrong and bad and are going to get decline from Havoc 20s by royal decree
>>574404646>>574408690It makes sense to have linguistic drift over 38,000 years but the problem is, like most fake slang, it doesn't sound right read out loud. The same applies to all the Cyberpunk slang as well. It also gets funny because of there being official 40k animations and books where they just say actual swears instead. But Dan Abnett is obsessed with them so
>>574409120choom actually sounds kind of like a word people would use honestly
can a karka borrow some corpse starch?
>>574409120>it doesn't sound right read out loudIt wouldn't, the way people spoke in the past wouldn't sound right to you either.
>>574409290How's a karka supposed to borrow some corpse starch? Is a karka gonna give it back?
>>574409234It's the one I dislike the most I think, honestly. It sounds better when it's not contracted - Choombatta - but the game forgot to do that
>>574409334>the way people spoke in the past wouldn't sound right to you eitherBut it does.
>>574409234you've warmed to that perception after enduring a decade of various -oomer stereotypes though
>>574409464No it doesn't
>>574409528It does.
>>574409464Why are you Welsh?
>>574409234No it doesn't faggot. It sounds like some word some PC goblin came up with to try and insult somebody in an in-offensive way like chud, that became the corporate mandated way to insult the undesirables. Nobody actually says chud unironically, same with choom.
>>574409710chud has become a term people use unironically tho
>>574409710A ton of people use chud unironically
>>574404646>>574408690>>574409120I like it but really it’s always going to come down to preference since at the end of the day the entire language scenario doesn’t make too much sense >>574408464Holy kek
>>574409710dont worry choom, its goyim now
>playing a new class >get sucked into penance farming while i level them >forced to play dogshit builds and grief my team to clear bullshit challenges >finish penance farming >now too bored to play the character, just go back to ogryn can autistic people still get lobotomies?
>>574411969The penances only deal with blitzes, abilities and keystones. The keys to making your build truly shit are in everything else you pick so feeling like its griefing is a you problem.
>>574412151There's a zealot penance that requires you to never use your ranged weapon during an entire mission.
>>574413260The class has throwing knives, you can do this on auric and only feel mildly inconvenienced.
>>574412151most blitz penances have you just throwing them at a poxwalker horde and vacuming up all the grenade spawns. I'm not griefing by playing poorly but by hogging resources from my team and using them in un optimal ways.
So is power overflow good or not? I think it's useful for the team in a lot of cases but ngl, it's fucking hard noticing in the heat of the moment.Also impossible to test for, since it requires a teammate.
>>574414776Skitarii can generate quite a lot of toughness, but the issue is that it depends on them being in coherency to benefit
>>574414776I wish it distributed its overflow as piss healthNot a high amount of it, like 15 max maybe, just something to see the constant effect you're having
>>574414776its value is about the same as a single toughness over time talent for your party. Its value depends on how much more toughness you have compared to them. As a rough estimate, consider it a 1-2% toughness per second while the Skitarii is in combat.
Am I correct in assuming that Ogryn's toughness aura node only applies to coherency regen? If it was ALL toughness regen it would be S+ correct?
>>574415960It's all toughness
>>574413260That one was fun though. And you can still use grenades
I've been seeing a LOT more ogryns lately ngl
>>574416981it's not that you're seeing more ogryns, it's that you're seeing less of every player who has a brain, because they're done with this pile of shit game
>still no way to move guns between characterswhat were they thinking
>>574419313They had big dreams of making the weapons feel slightly different for each class. Psyker's laspistol is the last lonely reminder of such things.
>>574419801I didn't even realize the laspistol was different on psyker. This game really is full of could have beens
>>574420362>>574419801I use laspistol on 3 classes including psyker and can't tell what's different??
>>574414776>So is power overflow good or not?The toughness gain can be fucking huge (in the 11-ish per second range for everyone) if you are truly toughness-maxxing and taking all the toughness over time nodes. This doesn't include sources of instant toughness, such as melee kill toughness, or Flensing granting 15% on elite/special kill.>yes anon you explained the mechanics but IS IT GOOD?It's complicated.Arbitrator's "Canine Morale" has similar (stronger, with the TDR) numbers and also benefits the user not just the team, but it's the closest comparison I'd make, with some mild differences. For one, your teammate's toughness doesn't matter, it's flat regen, which offers greater benefit to low toughness builds. For two, it likely generates more toughness with its uninterrupted uptime and also working with instant generators like decapitating a poxer.I think it's quite strong if you have sources of gold toughness, because it helps keep teammates in the gold.I also think it counter-intuitively becomes better with Resurgence keeping you topped up, which counter-intuitively works best on health builds (flat regen doesn't care about your number, incoming melee doesn't much care about your number = lots of flat regen for a melee build to shrug melee chip) which unfortunately has anti-synergy with Power Overflow since your number is now small. But, you are topped off extremely often which gives more uptime to Power Overflow, and a health build that takes all the (health-eligible) DR talents becomes very tanky.My main hang-up is how much less efficient Power Overflow becomes in havoc because it cuts your total toughness, but this also does apply to literally everyone so it's not so bad...In auric, it can singlehandedly keep my shitters alive, because they bricked their builds with 0 toughness generation. Assuming they stay close. Which they won't, because there's 20 plasteel in that corner over th-ACK!!!! *dies*
>>574420572Use the special, the psyker has a little force push. Lets him generate peril even with a gun at the start.
How do I use the plasma gun?Seems super clunky
>>574420859That's it? I guess if they commited there could be some more cool stuff like that
>>574420875>How do I use the plasma gun?The one that doesn't explode on charged shot, is a left click headshot gun. The technically optimal way to use it is on high heat, with the heat = strength blessing. Used this way, you can dump heat as a stat, because venting from 100 -> 80 in a single button press always yields 2 shots regardless of stat.Its charged shots are horde cleave, which is your melee's job, not your gun's. Occasionally useful for getting a high value target behind hordes tho.The aoe explosion mark has terrible leftclick which should mostly be a last resort. The rightclick should mostly be used fully charged. It's very useful for erasing bosses (crit them in the weakspot) and staggering/killing large masses of enemies that would otherwise become a problem for you.For self-defense purposes, think of it as a delayed grenade launcher that can't hurt you. Point and click at the nearest mass of enemies and they either fall over or stop existing outright. I quite like it on skit.
>>574420963It's only a little useful but it does let you bully elites and specials
>>574421440Neat, I'll have to start doing this
>>574421440the psyker is overstimulated
>>574421440Trolling the rager until he crashes out
Does anyone know if the static capacitor drain keystone modifier that increase capacitances generation 25% actually increase the effects of the four other nodes by the center of the skitarii talent wheel?
>>574421936Doubt it
>>574421936>still playing skittyThat shit is SO last month, I saw like one all day today
Damn, helbore piss vision build is crazy fun in h40 if you just cheat the sights away
>>574421936Capacitance does have decimal expression or Flux Conduit Buildup wouldn't work mathematically, so yes, all sources of capacitance generation would be increased by that percentage.
>>574422318Fuck dude braced helbore looks so much better than the sights
>>574421936The kuli guide should answer this.>inb4 that kuli hating cocksucker has another meltdown and gives me a dozen (You)s
>>574422318i'M gonna fucking cuooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh>>574422591oOOOOOOHHHHHHH I'M DOING IT AGAIN AAAAAAHHHHHHH
>>574422318Ok, I wanna try this. What mods do I need?
>>574396889They do nothing to prevent you from going down, and you're liable to not even get any extra revival opportunities because assorted corruption damage sources can cuck you out of one or more of your wounds that you wasted curio slots on.
>>574423205>If you just want the sights gonehttps://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/628 View model tweakerhttps://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/253 Crosshair remapMove the gun slightly down and to the left or right, it does not need a lot to achieve it. Don't go overboard and try to move the gun out of view or input excessive numbers, it WILL crash. Also don't use the global setting, make sure that the viewmodel is jumping to your currently equipped gun. I believe editing melee weapons will crash as well. (I think.)>Extra quality of life https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/496 Makes the helbore passively charge but not auto fire, not entirely neccessary for the big heavy slow mark, but I would say it's a game changer for the two light fast marks, because it charges insanely fast, making it feel much much more natural.If you use autofire, make sure to toggle it off if you use this because it runs off the same script. having both enabled will make the bore unable to fire because both scripts will be holding m1 basically.https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/91 Removes the insane tunnel vision zoom on piss vision, purely preference but I hate the insane zoom, takes too much from peripheral vision. 4 different cheat mods just to make one weapon feel not so insanely clunky.
>>574424551Oh dang, thanks for going through all this trouble.
>>574421817but he's always doing that, that's his entire existence
>>574424551Somewhat related but I would say the full auto mod is an absolute necessity for anyone that would ever want to use the infantry lasguns for some reason.
>>574425218Also the laspistols.
>>574424551Oh yeah, this also works for ALL of the unwieldy guns with shitty sights or weird animations, like the bolters and bolt pistols. Makes them way more fun when you're not dealing with swedejank and broken animations.
>>574397053They should just delete bursters from the game entirely. They clearly can't fix the damn thing or make it not bullshit to deal with.Every time they try to fix something they just make it worse and break 3 other things on top.
>>574425947The stupid part is that it's not even that hard to fix them, they're just too retarded and know nothing about their own game, so a ton of shit just slips through the cracks.>burster is ready>aggroed to someone else>arbitrator flashbang>it fucking shrugs it and suicides on the other guyThey don't even know how most of the tools in this game are used correctly so they cannot possibly fix complex bugs for a complete lack of game understanding lmao, this shit all needs to be reported individually and then we cross our fingers and hope these retards don't fuck it up even further between individual """fixes"""
>>574404612Bolt guns aren't rare and they aren't real relic blades, fartshart is just stupid.
>>574371181while grinding a new character I saw an ASS with a level 30 skittles go down like 7 times in a malice game
>No new maps for monthsIs it over, ratbros?
Zola's VA is a real cutie patootie
>>574400135>Emperor's gift: latrine shovel
>>574426839I prefer Dukane and her airstrip for flies.
I wish that I knew enough about darktide modding to write a mod to remove the effect that makes the transonic blades look like a shitty "intensifies" meme from ten years ago.
>>574427160...wat
>>574427203If you ever stop looking at the combat and look at the blades, then you'll notice that they're visibly vibrating in a way that grates on my nerves. Like unnecessary fucking strobe lights.
why do the laspistols have higher DPS than the infantry lasgunswhy do infantry lasguns existat least the recon lasguns have a little higher DPS than the laspistols
>>574426821Poxclickers have survived for 7 months without any new maps, you'll be fine.
>>574427521let me dual wield laspistols
>>574427607Fuck dual wielding, give me the officer loadout. Sword+plasma pistol or something.
>>574427521At one point in time the swedes planned on letting us adjust the power output of our infantry lasguns so that they'd have higher DPS but consume more ammo. That's why their ammo consumption is so autistic. But they work 4 hours a week, and abandoned that concept. All that's left now is that one blessing.
>>574427521why is a high end phone more expensive than a shitty laptop with the same performance specslasguns are the dirt cheap mass produced standard issue weapon of the imperium, built down to a price but still capable of taking down most things with volume of fire. laspistols are personal defense weapons for officers and specialists. roughly similar power but more expensive and compact
>>574427521>why do the laspistols have higher DPS than the infantry lasgunsSwedish game design.I've noticed that for whatever reason pistols in darktide are always superior to their rifle counterparts for some dumb reason. Like pull out faster, either do more damage or have better finesse multipliers, etc.It feels like some guy has a fucking pistol fetish at the studio and always just cranks their stats up to high heaven.It's just stupid.
>>574427682>laspistols are personal defense weaponsNo, they are standard guard issue even for guardsmen.This is like saying a fucking glock is a superior weapon to the AR because the officers who never see battle use it.It's fucking retarded.Only reason why infantry lasguns suck is because the swedes are retarded and have decided in their ass backwards mentality that lasguns are just supposed to suck, like how the vigilant guns suck.
>>574427682My lasgun is a handmade relic blessed by the priests of mars.
remember when you could do this?
>>574404191>hotshot lasgunsWhich is that?
I've got hemorrhoids again.
You think Wolfer ever thinks back on this moment on Tankred Bastion?
>>574428270How do you even manage that
>>574428392the fuck do I know nigga you think I got hem on purpose?
>>574428491What's your chair like? One of those donut pillows to sit on might help a lot if you're sitting all day and smushing your vulnerable little cheerio against a flat seat for hours a day.
>>574428491I don't know, I have never once gotten a hemorrhoid, let alone TWO.
>>574428359He has no idea that you're that same retard.
>>574348481Is skibidi good? I dropped Darktide after doing everything and think arbites>scum
>>574428270Improve your diet and get a bidet. One of those fancy Japanese ones with infinite hot water.
>>574428359>You think Wolfer ever thinksNo.
The game would be vastly improved if every voice line that used "Rejects" was rerecorded to "Retards".
>CIVI maelstrom (that means armor spam and no ammo)>Havoc Exemplar (LOL) slavgroid skit somehow manages to spam away 20% ammo before the first wave of enemies even shows up>he brought the retarded aimbot and bubble shield into fucking CIVI>goes down at some point, bleeds out, dies>replaced with another noob who spams away his ammo>I need ammo!>leaves 2 minutes later>another noob>eats an overhead and leaves>next noob>backtracks for plasteel, dies, leaves>get to the bridge>all 3 retards go down while I'm soloing the second battery (of course)>slavgroid psyker decides to stay despite going down repeatedly>at least he got serious mileage out of his extra woundArbitrator is pretty comfy at least. Fully choked into a corner, surrounded by overhead machines, vibing, and coming out unscathed.I haven't touched maelstroms in a while, why are they still such an incredible revolving door of retards popping in, dying, and leaving all in the span of a minute?
>>574428689Yeah yeah I still have the pillow from previous ones and the cream
>>574428818yeah it's good, it's really cool to play too once you get the hang of your skulls.you can't really get it as tanky as arbites, but it's definitely got more defenses than scum>>574428892You should be using it even when your asshole is fine, it's prevention as much as treatment. The pillow I mean, not the cream. Maybe the cream too? Idk. Hemorrhoids fucking suck brother good luck.
>>574428861>Arbitrator is pretty comfy at leastYou were the biggest shitter in the run
>>574429007I survived
>>574427982a glock that had comparable ballistics and ammo capacity to an AR15 would be more expensive yes. think MP7 vs basic bitch milstd AR
>>574429026You were the arbitrator, of course you fucking survived, a sub 100 IQ retard could survive a maelstrom on that class. The true test of skill for an arbitrator is keeping everyone else alive.
>>574429090Seems I struck a nerve calling out the slavgroidedness of the slavgroid. No worries, Vova, you will learn to survive a maelstrom in time :)
>>574429007is hating on arbites the new bait meta?
>>574424551>Helbore passive chargeholy, that's a gamechanger for me.It's also a feature in Fullauto redux btw.
>>574429164>not sucking my dick? must be russianDon't give a fuck about russians, you specifically are a shitter with a superiority complex if you can't keep your retards standing as an arby with god amounts of toughness, impact and crowd control potential. Granted, the one retard backtracking for plasteel of all things deserved what he got.
>>574429180>baitwhat's wrong with hating a class that just takes up a spot without contributing damage
>>574429265lmfao why are you so mad
>>574429180No, but tooting your own horn when you're playing literally the easiest class available is.
>quickplay>loading into------->MISSION FAILED>stuck on the defeat screen forever and need to kill the game with task manager.I do not hate Sweden enough.
>>574428996Tell me, old man, how are you so wise in the sciences of the bumhole?
>>574429365I just wait and it eventually passes
>>574429207Oh damn, I wasn't even aware there was an update of full auto. Granted I only really use it for the laspistol.
>>574429269bro is talkin about aurics lmaobesides the staggermaster is good into lots of armor anyway>>574429356Fair point
hey guys
>>574429609Kill yourself
the bolts on the blast radius boltgun shouldn't have an arming rangeevery enemy in the AoE should be affected by the puncture blessing
>>574429836>aoe bleed stack applicationYou must think the swedish are stupid. You wouldn't be wrong.
>>574424551Do you know if theres any mod that lets you change the weapon view model fov but only for when aiming, and keeps the hipfire view model the same?
>>574429039Laspistol isn't an MP7, it's just a 40k version of a glock you dumbass.
>>574429893puncture is sometimes useful exclusively against monstrosities and pointless in literally every other scenario
>>574429356It's crazy that you interpreted it as tooting one's own horn when it was just a complaint about malicelets accidentally stumbling their way into maelstroms on the regular.That's one big fat chip on your shoulder.
>>574429893Oh but it's okay when yon double barrel does it
>>574429026You're playing arbites, it's the easiest class to play and survive on. It's the class you give to your girlfriend to play.
>>574430204How come the 2 arbitrator shitters that joined didn't survive?
>>574430245Because they are worse at the game than the average woman is.
For me?It's sedition
>>574430336Okay but what are they doing in my maelstrom when they should be playing malice?
I feel like voltaic emitter is better for tard wrangling retards through a mission, but chordclaw is too fun.
>>574430476If you don't instagib nuke every boss AND daemonhost to ever spawn, your retards will find a way to generate several downs (possibly even deaths) from a single one of those showing up.
>>574427521>recon lasguns have a little higher DPS than the laspistolsI don't think this is true unless you mean when not hitting crits/heads for some reason. Both infantry and pistol with autofire cheats kill things faster than the recon
The mod that lets you go straight to hadron from your inventory screen is so fucking good holy shit
>>574430467Retards often go into places where they don't belong.
>>574431016me trying to talk my way out of an arrest after being caught hiding in the women's changing rooms
>>574431016See another example where calling the Rejects Retards would improve the game.
>>574431598Hadron would
>this bullshit barely pushes specials around even with maxed out hammerblow runningwhoever made this dogshit talent, and then decided it should compete with stacking attack speed or stacking damage for pathing, is a retard who should be raped and fired.
>>574431936>>this bullshit barely pushes specials around even with maxed out hammerblow runningI assume two things are happening>it stacks additively with hammerblowVery likely>it increases the base impact value of your weapon, of which you are unlikely to have one with hefty pushesSkit doesn't get shields, those are stagger gods.
>>574431936I'm so tired of almost every talent and blessing in this game being a conditional timed stat bonus, often a very specific condition and a very minor stat bonus active for a very short time.It's about as bad as space marine 2.
>>574432042yeah I bet it'd be great on an arbites or ogryn, I just wish the meta for talents wasn't still, in 2026, "just make some of them hot dogshit noob traps lmao">>574432113I find a lot of them are fake complexity anyway, because they just run most of the time due to your regular gameplay. If they don't, I just don't take em. On that topic though, whoever dreamed this bullshit up should also be raped and fired.
>>574430825Where I see most of them choking is that they will not respect shooters. They will get fucking WRECKED the moment that we need to go into a relatively open space that innevitably has a few blobs of Machinegunners, reapers, and a dozen shooters. That and the pack of shotgunners that walks around the corner. It's just so good to be able to go "ZA WARUDO!!!!!!!!!! Firearms are not allowed!!!!!"
>>574432319Retards dying to shooters and gunners because they haven't yet discovered how to slide is common, but that's also usually just one retard that goes down and then gets picked up by another retard after he realizes that the gunners need shooting (he only realized because someone went down).Most of the aurics I've played since skit release, with the huge influx of retarded newfag malicelets trying to find an auric carry, just died in fucking droves to any monster that showed up. They also very regularly stumble into daemonhosts no matter how much I try to hold their hand and ping the way around it.I think the second most common near-wipe I've seen is when a wave of armor shows up and they have neither the DPS to kill it, nor the basic melee ability to dodge them, so it frequently causes several deaths.
>>574432285>your next melee attacks>attackSFuck I read that as "attack", singular, when I read the tooltip. Now I don't know if it is supposed to buff one attack or multiple. At least I don't care. Thankfully I don't give a fuck about the damage. I'm running shred/riposte for crit maxing to CC shit with critical hits.
>>574432470It DID say attack, singular, when it came out. People were noting on release that, despite saying attack, it was affecting the next 3 hits. So still useless, really.
>everyone ignores the middle right side of the Skitarii cog despite it containing some of the class's most powerful nodes
>>574432285>whoever dreamed this bullshit up should also be raped and fired.It's a WHOA COOL WOOOSH ZING blessing for malicelets to build a "playstyle" around. I'm fairly sure that fatshark doesn't really consider gameplay implications when making retarded content like this, and all the other perfect block blessings/talents. Literally not a single one of them has a practical use; and those that do have an impractical use, are used in spite of the block meme.>>574432470>>574432508At least it's one of the less bad blessings, if it really does affect 3 attacks and really does supply strength, because the heavies can be quite nasty.It's still really awful because playing around the rhythm of blocking is always worse than just throwing out attacks and stunning everything.
>>574432468My previous auric run had a pubbie die because the niggers simultaneously aggroed the crusher patrol AND poked the daemonhost. The pubbies were the sort that brought multiple wound curios. I don't remember who poked the daemon host, but it might have been the psyker carelessly tossing assail darts around.Tox bombers also fuck up pubbies a shit ton. I am never taking off ablative wards. If the gas splits us up, it's nice having the option to haul ass through it to start babysitting them again.
>>574432623Most skittles are still in the cope mindset of generating capacitance and using abilities, so they're tight on points.
>>574432690If it did an actual parry during the swap animation instead of just a block, it'd be sick. That's what I thought it was doing on day 1 because of the neat sound they make when blocking, was very disheartened once I figured out it wasn't doing shit lmao
>>574432760I would actually blame the point cost of getting to the skull and most of them wanting Chud. Doing that is going to swallow probably close to 20 or more points if you grab Redline. If you grab Flensing, it will take them all.
>>574432743>I am never taking off ablative wards.Ablative wards does nothing to help you against tox bombers, because it only gives you resistance to the corruption build-up, not the actual cloud tick damage that annihilates your toughness. The corruption buildup from fart clouds is microscopic, and you generally generate enough toughness constantly to never have it touch your health unless you make an active effort to sit in them.Still a good talent but it doesn't do what you think it does.
>Me with Ablative standing in front of the Burgle
>>574432890I'm a returning player. I quit playing just prior to them adding the twins fight and came back for skittles. I guess I've just been overly respecting the fart clouds prior to equipping ablative wards. I still keep treating fire as it was back in the day. You know, back when it didn't do toughness damage. Instead it just straight up deleted 100% of your toughness, no matter how much, if you touched for one ten thousandth of a second.
>>574432863Things are going to get crazy if they ever have an "escalation" expansion where we get red weapons and +5 levels.
>>574432623I would love to take some of the right side talents, but the keystone, ability, and passive node are all stuff I almost never want to path to so the points are really inefficient in that direction.
>>574433117I didn't play VT enough to remember red weapons, would that be an extra perk or an extra blessing slot?
>>574433259Red weapons were just perfect statwise. So in darktide equivalent they wouldn't have a dump stat. It would just be 80% in every field.
>>574433045The reason you see shitters get completely annihilated by fart clouds is because they don't>notice that they're standing in them>know that they're supposed to run out of them>know/notice that it rapidly depletes their toughness>know/notice that it reduces their toughness generation>have the ability to survive in melee without being cushioned by toughness>run toughness generating talents because they're DPS-brainedIt's several compounding, severe skill issues that lead to this shit, with the most important one being that they're too retarded to melee without eating shit, and can't slide under gunner fire because they suck. They also have the talent of building even the most retarded toughness generating classes as what qualifies as an extreme glass cannon in their hands. Like arbitrators dodging every good node up top, taking chastity stance, and then randomly picking talents based on vibes, yielding at most 5% toughness per second on accident.Oh and many tards never melee, they just hold their gun all the time.
>>574433330So for the most part we'd just be getting a bit more mobility across the board? I kinda expected something cooler given how much people talk about wanting red weapons.
>>574433343One other point that I think might be fucking with them a bit that fucks with me a bit at times:>Every other special has clear glowy bits to make them stand out in the dark and visible in lights-out modifiers>the tox bomber seems to be completely outsourced and doesn't seem to have glowy bits. They're at least not as pronounced as those on the standard bomber.
>>574432508how is it so fucking hard to word descriptions properlythat paragraph could be interpreted in so many ways and nobody would arrive at the conclusion it empowers your next three attacksit's a couple lines of text fatshark you fucking morons I bet you are even able to read and speak english
>>574433432In VT2, red weapons were mostly just a "fuck crafting RNG" endgame. The power gap between a minmaxed red and a grey was nowhere near as wide as a grey and a minmaxed orange in darktide.Some people are probably hoping for and expecting 100% in every field instead of 80%, but as far as I'm concerned "80% is 100% and the whole reason why 80% is even a thing is because it's a swedish psyop from back when the item menu was worse and they wanted us to perpetually chase "better" weapons that didn't exist.
>>574433616Imagine how crazy it would go if they gave us a third blessing slot instead
>>574433695I finally would be able to run headtaker/slaughterer on chain axe without giving up bloodletter.
>>574433761isn't that the bleed on special attack? I am baffled that people take that, bleed is really not that strong.
>>574433469Not finding the tox bomber in time is whatever, I'm already resigned to my fate as the literal only player even looking at specialists. It's still standing and dying in the fart cloud like retards that's offensive. Send them back to malice.>>574433470>how is it so fucking hard to word descriptions properlySwedish ESL combined with not even playing their game at the minimum required level of proficiency to write adequate descriptions.
>>574433803It's mostly for monsters. It puts out a decent chunk of damage over time vs monsters. Get a good hit in every now and then and you can afford to spend a bit more time shooting the specials and dealing with the adds while the DOT hurts the monster.It was stronger back when the initial tick of the weapon special applied all of the stacks. Now it just applies them over time.
>>574433172PO is very good. I see why people take Redline but I think it's a trap because Voltaic's biggest boon is use on 2. You don't need 5 stacks of it. And the thing you really want it for is on the other side of the tree. People don't complain though because they also want the skull so it doesn't seem like you're getting screwed, but imagine that the Blitzes were flipped. That the Arc grenade was there and not the skull. Now everyone is in a corner and reeeing. The only real problem is exactly what I mentioned, you need to still claw your way over to the skull. You can do that though if you grab PO, if you grab Voltaic, and just take the Toughness Aura. I understand why you might not want to but your fucked otherwise. Finally, the class really does benefit immensely from those nodes. Ideally you could grab Chord, ignore the skull, grab the Rending and Flensing, and top it off with some nodes from the right side. If that's what you wanted to do, but it would mean you don't get the skull. You could build into a rather strong melee Skitarii this way, but I am not sure if it's worth it since the Skitarii is at its heart a ranged class with utility who can hold its own in melee. That's why so many people are still fighting over builds. It can be built viably in dozens of different ways, and if Fatshark corrects the bad things in the tree then there will be even more builds people fight over.
>>574434008>you need to still claw your way over to the skull.And by pathing there, you get>arguably the best toughness generation on the tree>the only crit node on the tree>a very easy to maintain 15% nodeand you're already at the skull. You should ideally want all of the above.It's pathing into Redline Capacitors that's terrible because you have 2-3 tax nodes in the way every time.>Skitarii is at its heart a ranged class with utility who can hold its own in melee. Yet no amount of arc rifle memes and dogshit aimbot ability negate the fact that the best overall build is always going to be a melee blender.
>>574434008I'm just hoping that the only nerf to noospheric command is a mandatory expenditure of the 25% charge to trigger the noospheric command buffs.
>>574434008I do think PO would be fun to run, but I think you're not considering all of the advantages of redline. Specifically, I'm finding that Residual Current Buffer (TDR x Cap stacks talent, left side) and Retribution Conduit (dmg vs electrocuted x Cap stacks top) are incredible value with redline, you gotta keep that opportunity cost in mind when making the decision too, if your build can make use of them. You call it a trap for voltaic, but if you use voltaic judiciously then you'll have those and the bonus rending talent putting in a lot of passive work for you.Basically every time I open the tree and try to make a build that uses PO, I end up deciding it just isn't worth it, unless I'm doing ACD maybe since Redline's strength bonus doesn't fucking work with that one for some reason.
For me, it's Flensing protocol
>>574434646I do like me some flensing protocol. I keep considering it for my voltaic build, the crit would give arc maul enough to have decent uptime on all the crit stuff and the extra capacitance would be nice, but I'm worried I'll end up keeping myself under 2 stacks too much that way, from the noosphere usage.
>>574434748>I'm worried I'll end up keeping myself under 2 stacks too much that way,Flensing is superior on most build archetypes because this exists, and noosymaxxers often don't even take it.
>>574434748I feel like I can manage capacitance income via the flensing keystone upgrade, capacitance on weakspot kill, and capacitance per second talents. But I'm running transonic blades, so one heavy can practically decapitate 3-5 poxwalkers.
>>574434840>>574434868yeah I'm just gonna trial it out instead of theorycrafting about it, I swear I get locked in and end up spending hours in the meatgrinder instead of just trying things out in live tests.
>>574430110no, it's the 40k version of an MP7. a fully combat capable personal defense weapon. size and shape wise it's obviously inspired by the mauser broomhandle which had a similar tactical role in its time. it's bigger and heavier than a typical 9mm pistol, and it can shoot farther and hit much harderthe 40k equivalent of a glock is... well a fucking glock, they're called "9mm stub pistols"
>>574434968Try this as a base and then figure out a build from there.Redline obviously paths up instead of down, and the left side may want lower investment if you're taking neither skull, nor claw or redline.Pathing through capacitance nodes often requires you to pick up some dogshit pathing node. There are a couple of paths that connect the sides through the capacitance nodes, but I don't think they're all that great. Picrel already has 1-point access to two of them. Reactor Coil Recharge is pretty easy to get if you're spending the extra points on the passive reload at least.
>>574434008if youre full up you spend 3 and then can spend 2 immediatelyhonestly, power overload is really bad because it doesnt do anything proactively compared to flensing or redline, you have to wait for it to do something, and getting there is really bad because those talents are kinda meh; and i didnt like taking with acd that i just took flensing instead and it works because you get to refund a lot of capacitance very quickly and you can just toggle acd to get max stacks instantly when youre getting shot at
>>574435484The one capacitance node that's auto include for me is weakspot kill one
>>574435902I think people sleep on the crit cap node, since it's over time you really don't need a dedicated crit build for it. My arc maul at 19% crit (yes I put +5% crit on its perks, sue me) has that node active almost all the time while in combat. To me, the TDR on crit, +6% crit, and crit capacitance nodes are practically mandatory for all my builds at this point.
>>574435484try as I might, I just cannot bring myself to trim the fat for those right side nodes. I must be more of a brick shithouse. I must give more toughness to the team. I must spam the fuck out of voltaic so smiggers can look on in despair at what a good CC support build looks like.
I went to Heresy to do some penances and have seen the rudest, gayest shit these past couple days - gunner shroudfield zealots- players fighting 2-3 vanguards (full health arbites btw) and the moment someone comes to help out they sprint away and go loot- any player that has a combat blade plays like a total asshole but especially Skitarii and Veteran, laspistol veteran excluded- I have seen the craziest uses of Break the Line ever, these Arbites will do WHATEVER they can to avoid pulling out a melee weapon. "One poxwalker in melee range and I'm out of ammo? BREAK THE LINE + RELOAD!, EAT SHIT ZOMBIES!!!"
>>574436553>BREAK THE LINE + RELOAD!, EAT SHIT ZOMBIES!!!Okay that's sick though?
>>574436418>top left zap enemies that melee youcrutch>top center electrocution damageThat's only +10% when you're not charged, +15% when you're at 1 charge, and when you have 2 charges you are using your ability anyway. It's no better than a different damage talent. It only really pulls ahead in strength stacking claw builds that are constantly bouncing between 4-5 charges, and thus nets +20-25%.>top right toughness genI'd like to be able to justify taking it but that is also a crutch.You can drop any two of the above.>left side TDRYou're spending an extra point for 10% TDR? Because I sure am not.>flame skullNot good enough to justify the point imo. Also not good enough to compete with medicae skull charges. Only truly useful in a small handful of maps with otherwise annoying objectives (such as Rolling Steel).>bottom right weakspot damageThe math doesn't math for most weapons, it's not great. I get that you're taking it for weakspot capacitance, but just path through the ammo instead, at least it gets you useful talents.>not taking +2 stacks on Flensing just to take random cope bullshit above this sentencePlease don't do that.>Power OverflowYou only take this when your build is complete, which this one definitely isn't.
>>574422318I fucking hate shooterfags demanding iron sights in every game so fucking much. Iron sights suck and I will die on this hill.
>>574437160Fair point on both the electric damage and left side TDR, those are vestigial picks from my redline usage.>the crutches up topI mean yes, kind of? But you gotta understand what my goal is with this with this build. I am doing everything in my power to force my teammates to survive despite their best retarded efforts, and if I get hit then I stop giving them toughness, so it's a buffer for that goal in mind.>flame skullIt's probably the point most in danger of being given up, not counting the two I already agreed with. But, I really like being able to give my team a huge clear area to fight dangerous encounters like a group of heavy armor or a boss, without chaff hitting them or blocking their dodges and such. It's also nice to have something to use my grenade charges on if the team isn't in need of medicae skulls.>weakspot damageyeah I just want the capacitance basically, I want to voltaic as often as possible for the aforementioned goal of forcing my team to survive. I pretty much never go through a whole ammo supply anyway so the ammo buff is even more useless for me, I just play aurics. Actually, maybe less than useless, I'd have to spend a point on Binary Ballistics instead of something else I'm taking... That's just vibes though, I'd need to test it's uptime to really make a decision on that one.>flensing stuffehhhhh I'm using arc maul so it's not really getting a ton out of some more crit... I don't think this is very valuable for what I'm doing because it's conditional anyway and I'm not taking the thing to refill all stacks, and I'm also putting myself in between every big enemy and my teammates that I can, so... I dunno, maybe? my max stack uptime isn't great though, as you can see.>Power Overflowis literally the entire point of the build.
>>574422318The galvanic looks so much better like this too. I haven't been assed to go mod for this yet, but I am sorely tempted when I see clips like this.
>>574438205>I am doing everything in my power to force my teammates to survive despite their best retarded effortsSo be more proactive. Take the attack speed in your zap skill and use it to more efficiently delete all the gunners and armored enemies. If you kill shit before it whacks you, you win. Also block and push more. Better play removes the need for that node. If you didn't have the skull, fair play because dogs suck. I am not taking that skill until electrocute starts stunning mutants (it never will).>I pretty much never go through a whole ammo supply anyway so the ammo buff is even more useless for me,The passive reload is very nice nonetheless, but I also suggest, and especially with zap + attack speed, that you use the arc rifle more liberally. Just spam it into whatever until enough melee chaff is near to justify pulling out your melee. VE + arc rifle is actually probably the single most effective auric build skit can play, and you can absolutely tailor it to shit out toughness to your retards.>ehhhhh I'm using arc maul so it's not really getting a ton out of some more critCharmed Reload arc rifle could use it quite well, but fair play, I fully assumed you would be using a crit weapon since you're pathing through the 6-10% crit.>>Power Overflow>is literally the entire point of the build.Then you can make an active effort to pick up every toughness over time node, and slot 3x17+5% toughness to boost it further. Coping for the melee retaliation node is another piece of the puzzle that causes you to skip 10%/s by pathing through 5%/s on elite kill up to picrel.I get wanting to bulid around a meme but you aren't even doing that to maximum effect yet. Do better.I do the same but on a health build because I don't trust teammates not to burster, 2x grimoire + daemonhost, or barrel me.
>>574438618Okay fair I misspoke, it's not the *entire* point of the build, it is what got me wanting to build around it though. I think trying to maximize it would be to the detriment of other ways that you can help keep the team safe. Fair to assume it was a crit build but nah, I just find that with the tree node and +5% crit perk, the maul gets pretty good uptime on the TDR node and the capacitance regen as well. But, to be honest I do find myself wondering if this is enough toughness regen to even matter with the talent, I wish I could get any kind of numbers on how much toughness I pass on that actually restores damaged toughness instead of being wasted, cause I really like the idea of the gimmick but it feels like taking a leap of faith and assuming it's working alright.
>>574407337They could've given skittle access to single wield version of the branx autopistol the hive scum get.It's almost identical in shape.
>>574437801Yeah this except completely unironically (and for real)
>>574408506It's an amazing gun if you use a gimmick like Desperado to circumvent its ammo reserve. It's entirely held back by having poor ammo economy and its best blessings needing you to unload continuous fire with it.
>>574431598Reject works better, it also applies to people playing the game too.
>skitussy hood has a different shade of Mars Red compared to the robesHow can it possibly be this hard to get something like this right. The only ones that match are the Deluxe edition hood as well as the Seeker one
>>574421440Based. I love this little unique detail for the laspistol on psyker, can you believe there were people who thought it was a bad gun even just a year or two ago?
>>574431116>>574431016jej>>574426964FAS vibes but she has her charm
>>574440263>The only ones that match are the Deluxe edition hood
>>574438618Played a couple of matches thinking about it and you're definitely right about the arc rifle. I was so focused on the idea of being tanky and in the front lines, my side-arm was kind of an afterthought so I just grabbed the phosphor thinking I'll use it for the debuff every now and then at least. Shall be swapping that out for sure, arc rifle can do a lot for the team from a distance
>>574428257Basically lasguns but with significantly more punch via a cord attached ‘backpack’. Usually only carried by fairly elite infantry like Stormtroopers but also used by Inquisitors and what not.>>574428851That would be…. le ableist…
>>574428257It's basically what Scab Gunners use, lasgun machineguns.
>>574441553>I just grabbed the phosphor thinking I'll use it for the debuff every now and thenThe arc rifle has it beat at doing even that, because it likewise applies brittleness but in greater values.>but muh theoretical stackinglol as if any pubshitter runs brittleness
>>574440263There's 2 different shades of red for the robes as well. Some of them should match the other hoods.
>>574441553Phosphor pistol is still very good, it has good cleave and it's debuff also reduces hit mass, and expllosion is pretty big, so you get even more cleave on followup shots.Arc rifle is overtuned but it's very ammo hungry, so it's not for every situation. It's fine in aurics, but in havoc it griefs ogryn who should be getting all the ammo.
>>574439661If you have desperado you also have dual autopistolsI always basically clear the map with desperado autopistols, changed to the shredder for a change of pace and could barely even kill trash mobsMaybe I built it wrong and Pinning Fire + Blaze Away is not the ideal, but that gun can stay in the trash for all I care
>>574443441Oh for sure, it's got it's uses. I like to spam queue rolling steel when I see it and that infinite cleave has saved my team from many a sniper death alley. But for general use and the goal of "keep teammates on their feet", I can see arc is gonna cover more ground for that. Plus the braced jumps trigger capacitor reclamation loop on almost every shot so that can give me a lot more juice than when I was not really thinking about using my gun at all.>>574443583I felt the opposite when I was on my scummer arc, the dualies ran out of ammo faster and had to reload more so I found them annoying to use compared to the single. Are you taking sticky fingers with it? The spread reduction makes a huge difference on that gun.
>>574443441>Arc rifle is overtuned but it's very ammo hungry, so it's not for every situation.No the fuck it isn't, you get 40 in a mag, plenty of mags, and it kills a crusher in like 4-5 shots, practically less if they're in a blob with other shit you want to kill. It utterly shits on the phosphor pistol when it comes to killing potential and ammo economy, unless the only thing you're shooting is disablers the pistol one-taps.>in havocI don't consider ranged skit to be viable in havoc, that doesn't mean they can't bring the arc rifle and use it sparingly. Hell I'm pretty liberal with my plasma use when I play skit and I almost never pick up ammo.
>>574443665The dualautos run out of mag faster but everything in front of you by that point is dead, save a crusher patrol
>>574443916>save a crusher patrolIf you build into rending desperado and rending stimm, and carapace on the guns, they can even beam ~1.5 crushers in one magdump.Although I think the days of high viscosity desperado are kinda over, the pickpocket nerf feels like it necessitates a 50% visc CDR stimm + dependency if you want to shoot enough to justify playing a ranged build.
>5000 poxies and 20 bulwarks beating my face>cant even see anything except a mass of nurgle bodies>trapper grabs me through all of these from 10 miles away
>always play with other arbites>NEVER see anyone else's shield flash
>>574445014special button is for chuds, shan't press it
>>574445014jank ass ability that doesnt do anything
>>574445014its useless
>>574445098>>574445128>free stun cone is useless
But how dogshit are axes? Slow as fuck attack speed, terrible dodges, damage isnt particularly high, no wave clear what the fuck are they suipposed to be good at?
>>574445607Check the blessing called brutal momentum.
>>574445607>no wave clearwith brutal momentum the combat axe is the jack of all trades
Fuck microplasticsI'm on my MACROplastic game*chews water bottle cap*
>>574445014the shield is not that good to begin with, i much prefer the crusher for defensive play
>>574445607There was an era where zealot was the hyper melee rapist of the game, and the combat axes were the strongest weapons in the game as well. They're all rounders being somewhat strong at every armor class, except the big mutant for some reason.
>>574446003>There was an era where zealot was the hyper melee rapist of the gameThis never happened. At best he had a brief moment during which he could face roll combat by just swinging and hoping for crits, this was also the only period during which my friend was able to play the game as he needed that level of safety to not die to poxers. Even during that time, power sword was better.
>>574443672>my plasma useSorry, I don't take meme opinions seriously
>>574445175It kinda feels like it, I've used it in havoc and half the time I can't even tell if it even stuns enemies.
>>574446267>the highest boss damage weapon available to the class>explosive cleave staggerrape against humongous hordes>a meme You don't even play havoc, sybau
>>574428251what talents/blessings made this work? and why did they nerf it? currently autoguns are trash
>>574428251The crapace buff was a mistake
>>574428251I remember when fotf would apply to ranged weapons for like 6-7 seconds as long as you didn't melee attack, allowing you to do this thrice as fast and do some uncanny screen clears with the flamer that would make shriek psyker cream his pants full. I remember when you could also chain fotf infinitely, oneshotting entire rooms and ending up 3 rooms ahead by sheer accident because it was too funny just to charge everywhereGod I miss old fotf.
>>574446807So current darktide is more of a grunt fantasy than it used to be but retards complain about powercreep?
>>574447425It's more of a grunt fantasy for zealot players, everyone else is super saiyan
I AM WARRIOR
Anyone else notice the poxhound ragdolls seem to be set to maximum sillymode lately?
>>574449101Darktide is healing, bros.
Did you guys know that despite not saying it on the tooltip, Decapitator stacks fall off one at a time and not all at once? I'm actually kinda enjoying the mpsword with this, just use a couple of charges to land some 1-shots and then go to town with your crits and huge finesse bonus
>>574437801Real shooterfags do not desire ironsights. Doom didn't have them and therefore no good game needs them.
>>574449862>Real shooterfagswatch out everyone, hes gonna talk about arena shooters he hasn't played in decades.
>>574449862"real" isn't anchored in the past forever brother, there are "real" grown ass adult shooterfags that grew up shootan on cawadooty and battlefield now
>>574449936Skill issue lil cuz, I've got a Plutonia pistol start run ongoing right now (though I've been away from my setup for a week due to travel admittedly)>>574449967Nonsense, TRUE and HONEST is the very specific era of things I grew up with and the occasional more modern exception, everything else is FAKE and GAY.
>>574437801>Iron sights suck and I will die on this hill.Then die, faggot. Iron sights is the most soulful shooter experience. Crosshairs are gay and should not exist. KF1 did it right.
>>574450576>Plutonialol dude no one cares if you're good at singleplayer shooters. literally not a single person cares. they are an exercise in memorization, not skill.
>>574450794KF1 did it right because you also happened to be a laserbeam while hipfiring (most) guns. The game didn't demand that you ADS or else your spread would be from center screen to 80% to the side of your monitor.
>>574451002That's one of the reasons I love the bolt pistol so much. Very accurate on first hipfire shot.
Lotta guys named Dickot.
Plasteel!
>>574452120Default name.
>>574452434Ah, makes sense.
>>574452434Holy based.
>skyv is running off again>with his knife>to fight poxwalkers>and get trapped>and alt f4auric is so back bros
>Auric board is nothing but vent purge and hunting groundsWhat is happening?
>armourbane brittleness also gets applied by the helbore shank and not only the shotnice
>>574452934>vent purgethe age of skitty ACD is upon us
Hello anons I've levelled arbites to 30 and now skitarii tooWhat should I do next? I don't have hive scoom
Why does everyone in the 41st millennium have a retarded zoomer haircut?
>>574454237because hair physics are hard even though we figured it out decades ago
>>574453849Psyker and ogryn are both very different and unique, so probably whichever seems most interesting to you. Ogryn is likely the most familiar since he's a bigger arbitrator.If you do psyker level with assail btw, and get yourself a staff to leftclick with as soon as you unlock it, makes a world of difference.
woah since when was the 2-shot burst headhunter a fucking AN94? this thing used to be retardedly slow.
>completely over the deluge of bombers, trappers and poxbursters that show up in auric>queue into damnation quickplay>it's shock troop gauntlet/hi-intensityI think specialist dodging and sniping is the worst part of the game
delete mortisdelete expeditionsdelete havocadd more maps
Delete missions, embiggen mortis
>>574355121If you bake and add it, no one is ever going to remove it
>>574456075
>>574355121it's friendslop, the entire gimmick is that the game records your voicechat (no push to talk btw) and then clones of your character will appear and speak with your voicewe're going to keep getting this game over and over for yearsthere's already another one just like this coming out soon
I think the trickthrows the bombers do are sometimes a little ridiculous.
>>574454237just people in penal legionsfatshark believes only ugly people can be criminals that are forced on suicide missions, and honestly I respect them for taking that stancesieg heil
>>574456486Either their throwing arm goes, or veteran gets the same throwing arm. Let me throw grenades at the speed of light and land 80 meters away around seven corners.
>>574456635My most absurd experience was running forward and having a bomb fly up from below right in front of me with absolutely no visibility on the bomber
WHAT IS THIS FUCKING STUPID FUCKING NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER STUPID FUCKING RETARD NIGGER FAT FUCKING NUBIAN FUCKING RETARD FAGGOT NIGGERS PROBLEM JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I FUCKING HATE THIS STUPID BLACK RETARD GORILLA MONKEY NIGGER SO FUCKING MUCH ITS UNFATHOMABLE
>>574457723>Readying grenade!
>>574457723>Flame bombs the only path forwards forcing you to camp for 30 secondsHeh... Nothing personnel...
>>574457882>equips 1-2 bomber resist (depending on class)>or turns on gold toughness>or uses BTL>just walks through
>>574457723how cancerous would darktide versus be?
>>574454237Fashion sensibilities aren't going to stay the same for 40 000 years.Remember, mullets and padded shoulders used to be The Thing 50-60 years ago.
>>574457723Fart bomber is worse cause they blend into the horde easier
>>574458062>spawn>cheating arbitrator sends his godmode dog at you through a wall>die 5 seconds later
>>574458062>Spawn as mutie>Throw people off of every ledge to certain death since you can aim the throw now>RAAAH! YAAAAUGH!! AAAAAAaaaaaaAAAaaAAAAAAH!!!
>>574458062>Corner camp as Crusher ready to overhead anyone walking through
>>574458062Elevator crusher webm
>>574458062What if instead of 4v4 it was 4v16?
>>574458062>Spawn as burster>See player run in for the shove >Start backing off to make him whiff the shove>Explode on his face
>>574432113Honestly space marine 2's perks are a lot more fun/varied and some are really good. If Darktide had a talent that was "Attacks pierce 50% of armour even if blocked", it would be an autopick
>>574437801I can deal with shitty iron sights.I can deal with shitty unwieldy recoil.I can't deal with both.
>>574422318>flamer in havocYou guys told me this was the serious business gamemode
>>574446392I think it was something like this at the time.>and why did they nerf itSwedish malice.
>>574428251they really gutted the balance of the entire fucking game just to avoid nerfing dueling sword, it's insane
>>574459152Flamer is zealot's best ranged weapon in h40, retard.
>>574459152You can sort of take whatever into havoc provided the player isn't retarded
>>574422318>>574424551but what happens to the bayonet's aim
>>574458206>arb pings you across the entire map while you were exposed for half a second>>574458482
>>574432285I read the kuli guide, this shit is just the Tendereizer blessing from ogryn cleavers.
>>574459597I am stupid
>>574459508What
>>574460656if you try to stab someone with the viewmodel all off like that where does the knife go
>>574461059The model itself is purely cosmetic, it does not alter swing patterns or aim locations
>got to H30+>fun stops
>>574463223https://youtu.be/4XDSZkZfrtI
>>574463223only trannies enjoy being raped, congrats, you're normal
>>574463424>immediate rape analogy>also bringing up trannies>AND a seething hardstuckieThe brown trinity in one post, nice.
>>574458062I don't think a 4v4 styled versus mode would do well. But a 1v4 "zombie master"/director mode would be interesting with one player controlling the enemy spawns with an overhead view.
>>574463647>immediate havocsissie meltie baited retard, and i've cleared your dogshit gamemode it's just not fun at all.
>>574463793No amount of feigned nonchalance will recover your izzat, Sukhdeep
>>574463424Only teenagers and brownoids continue to use tranny like the word faggot.
>>574463906whiter than you pal
I don't want to play anything but Ogryn....
>>574463783I think the director would feel too detached from the experience for it to last, and it's not like strategy gamers are gonna buy darktide for this one mode
>>574455464just dodge when you hear the noise unc
>>574464235How do you Ogrynchads do it, IM GETTING SHOT TO FUCKING PIECES PLAYING THIS CLASS
>>574464498I know my dance steps, it's just a more annoying dance than fighting elites is and the music frustratingly never lulls.
>>574464609you have to slide max, and taunt the little nigger shooters out of cover
>>574464609You take sources of toughness generation and learn to slide>ogrynchadsYou don't need to be an autistic ogryn main to succeed on the class
>just found out the slow recon lasgun is not really the most ammo efficient because it consumes 2 ammo per shot>just found out "close range" on blessings is not even fucking close to be "close" and is actually whooping 12.5m, and it still gives benefits for any targets up to 30 damn meters away from you
>>574464694>>574464889>slideYea i guess that's my problem, i often fucking crouch instead of sliding and eat shit because of that. Also i'm used to just being able to outshoot my problems away.
>Play max hp ogryn>Also activate ultimate coherency regen alongside a skitarii>Drop to half health, a respectable 250hp>Too Stubborn to Die kicks in>I am now gathering over 20 toughness a second just from existing near the team.>I cannot die>I have no need to dodge or slide or sprint>I simply walk forward swinging my weapon under a hail of gunners>To even feel pain I must hug a poxburster>I have become a true ogryn
>>574465065>Also i'm used to just being able to outshoot my problems away.So play gunlugger and take all the cooldown reduction you can, and this really does just happen>>574464950>>just found out the slow recon lasgun is not really the most ammo efficientI believe the green one is, but that thing has no cleave so it's dogshit. Brown is still the most ammo efficient in practice because you can actually use Deadshot with it. Blue is a little more build versatile but you can't crit stack as easily (stamina go byebye)
One of the most intense HI-STGs of all time.>Clandestine Gloriana>1 bot for most of the mission>teammates that seem to intentionally shoot bursters when other players are trying to push them
>>574464235i used to play ogryn but got tired of getting trapped. i thought i would be able to never get trapped again if i could just swap to my secondary faster. now i play zealot and i can swap instantly to my secondary, but i still get trapped all the time anyway. at least i can no longer blame ogryn for it.
>>574465387>still using the default german stoner scoreboard with useless defense score bullshitstill a faggot
>>574464609I shieldmaxx with the talent that taunts enemies into melee when you block their shotsDoesn't work on heavy gunners since they don't have a melee weapon but it is what it is
>>574458095>The ThingHmmm…>>574458062I can’t even really imagine how it would work with certain units honestly
>>574465205In my 300 hours as vet I never figured out how to utilize Deadshot. You're sacrificing one curio slot, you're basically sacrificing Precision Strikes (zero free talent points if you pick all 3 grenade talents, and I have no idea how to play havoc without full maxed smoke nades), you're not allowed to brrrrrr and where's the fun then, all of it just to get some potential(!) crits when the recon crit damage is dogshit anyway to begin with.
>>574466692You use piss tag's stamina refund and you slow walk a lot and don't take detours for ammo because you can't keep up if you do. You abuse your TDR to take toughness damage to refund your stamina. The expensive part is the stamina cost even with the brown recon las, not the point investment. MF also works wonders but I've found it harder to use and much more selfish.You just can't really play something like this without a melee guy you trust because you have zero investment and power sword can only carry you so far.Laspistol is still better, especially if you can get +15% crit auras in the group.Helbore meme builds also outperform this, but those tend not to use shout, so that's expected.Yes there's a leftover point. Can go into cleave, shout revive, attack speed, top right toughness restore, Precision Strikes if you insist.
>>574467669Naah, still not convincing enough, sorry bro, I'll stick with my cookie-cutter onslaught build. Maybe one day I will lose my gag reflex and start using laspistol, but not today.
>>574466692Deadshot is amazing in my melee vet build, I use the revolver and basically just snap off quick ADS shots with it, works like a charm with Hand Cannon and I barely pay a stamina tax unless I space out and just start ADSing to hold angles or something. It usually only takes one "surprise you're out of stamina" moment to get me back to using it right though.
>>574468295>OnslaughtWhat the fuck for? Any good havoc team spams brittleness on the melee classes so it's not for bosses. Everything that needs to burn is flak at most, and you shouldn't shoot crushersI also completely maxx the fuck out of armor pen when I'm using the blue recon las in auric just so I can shoot crushers, but that's because I likely have to solo the entire game and shooting crushers is safer than entering melee. Ain't the case in havoc and you can't afford that much ammo anyway.
Give thunder hammer power cycler as a blessing.
>>574463223>anon's first h30
*explodes without making any noise*
For larp-build purposes, do any of the forge worlds have favored weapons more associated with them? Like in my head I think Branx is a good vibe for arc maul and rifle, Mars looks the most iconic with the power sword and galvanic, Ryza with the transonics, etc. But that's just kind of my vibe based on nothing
>>574469276Weren't the orange lads all about plasma?
>>574468769>Any good havoc teamSo not mine. At least not in the foreseeable future.
>>574469276You ARE only using weapon marks manufactured on your forgeworld right?
>>574469401Bully your ogryn into running the push = brittleness talent if he's running a shield, brittleness blessing if he's using a pickaxe, or use the grenade gauntlet with brittleness. Or even a PBB build with brittle rumbler.Alternatively, bully your zealot into using their flamer more, or using the crusher with brittleness + skullcrusher and actually just spamming the special half the time.If you have a skit, they should naturally brittle everything through crits.If you have a particularly retarded psyker they might also run brittleness but only shitters do that and the arbitrator schizo is going to have another meltdown when he reads this (hi faggot)
>>574469516Do any of the skit weapons even GET branx marks? I was excited to have those patterns match with Mars colors but they pulled a fast one on us and gave us not-branx...
>>574469276Stygies VIII would be xenos shit desu
>>574463223Me but Auric.
>>574470424You want the absolutely worst part? You think Auric is not fun, but once you go back to it from high-ish Havoc, it's even less fun now.Except at this point there's no fun difficulty left anywhere at all.
was the right move here to not be arbites?
>>574463223Me but damnation.
>get insulted by teammate>report himnothin personnel, kid.
>>574471286should have continued to push up the stairs and take cover at the top instead of rushing back to take on 50 gunners alone
>>574471286I think you shoulda ignored the gunners and moved into one of those rooms at the top of the stairs, they'd be busy with their thumbs up their ass for a long time before they got up there to harass you.
>>574471286Needed to slide more.
Anyone got some pointers on this shitbuild?
>>574472304>thy wrath be swift untakenI don't know how good the build would be all I know is I would not have fun playing it
>>574472304Enemies Within is better than Blood Redemption, at the topIf you're using a Relic Blade (or other weapon with an activation state) you'll want Thy Wrath Be Swift so enemies can't turn it off by tickling you.Depending on what weapon you're using and how you use it, Punish Piety and Unfaltering can find better nodes. Infectious Zeal and Duellist are solid choices.
>>574471286>walking>slow walking>walking>taking fire>still walking>block walking>I'M TOOOOOOOONKING BULLETSnigga your slide>but shield slide is so slowup your APM, I always swap to my gun to sprint slide and swap back to melee. Your revolver runs fast.>butnope, git gud
>>574473135NTA obviously but I always take TWBS, if ONLY because it lets me force objectives while abusing my retarded amounts of defensive stats to just shrug even 1-2 h40 poxers getting a hit or two in.No other reason. I'd still take it if it were stun immunity only while using an objective. It's the entire reason I even take stun immunity on most classes except skit where it's just so cheap that you'd be silly to skip it
When are they gonna add the kerillian class?
>>574463223Soon enough, anon can't live without H30+
>>574474589after they are done adding the senile anti-social necron cowboy archeologist class
>>574474832I hope they have a girl voice
>>574455871>delete havocThen what are people who are good at the game supposed to do for a challenge? Auric puts me to sleep.
>>574475228>Auric puts me to sleep.normally at this point you're supposed to go outside and touch grass rather than spending 3000 more hours playing the same 20 missions on the same 5 maps
>>574475510>muh mapsWorthless, you'll just learn the ins and outs of a new map in under 5 runs at the cost of several more gigabytes in file size for each one added.
>>574475719Could still go out and touch grass, maybe find a girlfriend.
>>574475798If you've had it with the same five maps, you're literally in the same boat as people who play havoc exclusively, you just hit your skill ceiling. You too should go outside.
>>574475719>bro less variety is actually less goodOk, we don't need new classes or new weapons either.Just use the same old shit as before for the rest of eternity.
>>574475918My point is that the game has plenty of variety in classes, maps and game modes. If you're tired of all of that, you have played the game too much and need to put it down, you're suffering from burnout, not a lack of content.
>>574474589they already have the loner psyker for cocky personality nobody likes
>>574475906Okay
What's the point in the skitarii's "body" selection if no one ever sees it
>>574476403Probably some sick fuck on the dev teams' fetish
>>574476108>uhm it's burn out broo???>we don't need new maps or anything it's just slop broHey, how about you go suck start a shotgun, since that's also variety and different from Darktide?
>>574476498They should've put at least one cute option desu
>>574475719It is crazy that some people think about their leisure-time activity/hobby like this.
>>574476631You're unwilling to see the truth, it doesn't matter what they add, you'll poopsock it and say the game needs more content when you get bored of it again.
>>574476108>variety in classesLet's see, we have a skibidi, a worse skibidi, an arbites, a worse arbites, a stim guy, a magic guy. And ogre.>variety in game modesLet's see, we have shit mode no one plays #1, shit mode no one plays #2 but new, and the regular missions with ~45 difficulty levels where the difference between two is 5% more enemy health.>variety in maps>darktideYou are the swiggirest swigger that ever walked this Earth. You can easily outswigger even the Fatshark, even their CEO, in fact you should apply for that position because clearly even their CEO is not even close to be this much of a delusional swigger as you are.
>>574476751>adding content is le bad actuallyWhy do you want to be the next Hedge or Badwin?
they should give 4th personalities for classes since the game gave one to ogryn and should for the others because why not. they should also be from tertium like heavy ogryn for funny lore opportunities>zealotimperial version of a jehovah's witness, behaves like a plucky choirboy/girl, loves to sing, REVERES saint messelina to the extreme. won't drink, which bothers the fanatic, cuss, and needs to be hyped up into saying anything particularly nasty, which makes others in the group excited>veteranhas worked in the moebian 53rd, drummed out when doodookane took over because she purged everyone who didn't agree with her methods (fatally for the low ranks, shifted assignment for the veterans). gets very awkward meeting her on the mourningstar + will comment snarkily whenever she's narrating a mission. comments on saint messelina more often than they do the emperor or golden throne. hates cadians for being whiny>psykera hard one because we already have savant who is from tertium lol, so i would say a curveball and a psyker from a feral world or something who acts like a shaman
>>574409234It's genuinely one of THE most unrealistic and retarded made up word in the whole Cyberpunk universeDon't forget that the full word is Choombatta too.t. Linguist
>>574469845Too bad we have none…>>574474589We’ll get one soon and it’s going to be a loli
Boltgun or Boltpistol
>>574478005We should get a howling bansheeOr a dark eldar
How's the Chainaxe bruvs
>>574475719If they made the maps less detailed they could make more of them. Instead they have this gay obsession with MAXIMIZING DETAIL because there are really only 6 maps and they reuse them for the 20 ish missions. there are no reasons for these maps to have secrets or dumb penances like the 'shoot the bottles on the shooting range' bit, no one bothers doing them and shit's a waste of time. they have the gay-ass random assignment of levels system because it helps obfuscate how pathetic the level amounts actually are, while vermintide 2 had 13 unique levels on release and most dlcs that added more added at least 2, up to 4. basically, they're lazy as fuck now and tards like you should stop enabling them
>>574476192She has the cutest "thank you" in the game, so you're wrong
>>574477925>choirboy/girl, loves to singthis would kill the sistersfags
>>574436145The problem that I have with it is that the crit cap node isn't that much better than the passive "always extra cap over time", and I feel like the passive one pulls ahead just because of the few gaps in time where you aren't keeping the crit one up.
>>574478423It's the second best chain weapon (after eviscerator) and excels at being an attack speed stacker's light attack spam weapon. The whacking mark has reasonable cleave, good imapct and decent damage. The biting mark has decent DPS especially with brittleness blessing.It's not good at anything in particular other than shredding voidshields, where it usually is the 2nd or 3rd best option available for that specific task, but it's often not an important enough task to warrant using it over a better weapon.Overall it's on the upper half of melee weapon performance because it's mediocre at most tasks and has a niche, but nowhere near to the top.It also has a cult following of chainaxetards that will insist it's the greatest weapon ever (they have less than 300 hours in the game and have never even played a good build)
>>574479902the whacky chainaxe is worth it for the push attack that instakills everything short of a crusherI would definitely not rate it lower than the eviscerator for that reason
>>574480265Not a huge fan of crippling stamina economy, and push attacks are gated more by that, than attack speed. Scum is the chaxe's best user and wants to keep stamina high unfortunately.Idk if I can in good conscience rate it higher than eviscerator bleeding entire hordes to death with enough crit, as one of the precious few decent cleave abusers.
>>574455871Give me chaos wastes.
>kerillian calls companions mayflies>ugh she's so annoying>skitarii calls companions deficient ones>cutewhy?
>>574463223I will play havocs once the game just lets me quickplay havoc matches. I shan't partake in tranny groupfinder circlejerk drama. Until then as far as I'm concerned havocs are as much of a nothingburger mode as expeditions.
>>574471286-Move from cover to cover-Don't try to slide forward or walk towards gunners in a straight line. Approach diagonally.-Learn to slide more in general. Learn to slide sideways and backwards if you haven't already.-Don't panic spam LMB to the point that you detonate barrels next to youI suggest you stop playing arbites until you get used to surviving through movement alone. This class truly gives players bad habits.
>>574480935>I shan't partake in tranny groupfinder circlejerk drama.t. the declined
>>574469276I think that specialization kicks in for rarer things like special variants of baneblades.
>>574481043>-Don't panic spam LMB to the point that you detonate barrels next to youNTA but the barrel looked intentional, and is a good strategy to try and bullshit yourself an out. Red barrels are pretty safe to intentionally blow up, especially since you can bhop over the fire and take no damage.The execution was fucking awful of course but we both know that.
>>574480786Elf Derangement Syndrome.
>>574481043>Learn to slide sideways and backwards if you haven't alreadywat? but you can only sprint in one direction...?
>>574479631deserved
>>574471286Should have sic'd your dog on the most distant MG gunner.
So anons, what to do
>>574481726skip skip skip please skip you will regret not doing it>>574481571You can dodge into a slide, anon...
I don't like using the dog as arb ites
>>574481571Hit the dodge key and then the crouch key while moving backwards or to the sides, that's how you do back and side slides.
>>574481261it was intentional, i didnt expect it to go off in one swing.
Which nade do I use for the veteran brehs
>>574473524>up your APM, I always swap to my gun to sprint slide and swap back to melee.yeah im simply not doing that. im surprised i survived coptering in warframe without getting carpal tunnel.
>+36% stam regen on curiosAm I gonna get get made fun of in Havoc
>>574481330unironically the casebardin insulting human made things as dogshit? saltzpyre being a huge asshole? sienna literally burning down entire villages? hadron being reddit? kayex calling us pre-servitors? (ok he's kino actually)>picrelkerillian is an asshole but has her reasons and there has been an unironic anti-elf pro-dwarf psyop over the years. bardin actually behaves extremely nicely for a warhammer dwarf, too - the average warhammer dwarf would actually literally rather die than help humans with maintenance, give them dwarf-made supplies, or even speak their language around them, so they made him nicer so people wouldn't hate him, but made kerillian meaner than the average elf for reasons i guess
>>574482268Kraks for anti-armor anti-monstrosity, frag for horde clear, smoke for hiding from gunners and trolling your friends.
>>574482443Nobody cares as long as your other 2 curio perks are all any 2 of CDR, gunner res, revive speed.If you have some retard shit on there that might be what makes me press decline if I care to check at that moment.
>>574481867>>574482003dodge sliding is how you dodge trappers MUCH more consistently on ogryn btw. If you're an ogryn or arbites player you NEED to learn dodge sliding until it becomes second nature.
>>574481867>>574482003>haven't known about this for all 741 hours of playtimewewthat said I don't see the use application, when I'm dodging to avoid bullets it's because the bullets are happening in addition to melee attacks and it's not like the slide gives melee i-frameswait does the dodge slide give melee i-frames
>>574482589only hivescum has a node that gives melee iframes on sliding
>>574482589>>haven't known about this for all 741 hours of playtime
>>574482727sad thing is I'm still usually among the better auric players
>>574482589No, but it does confound targeting of both ranged and melee attacks against you. The main use is that you get slightly more distance out of a slide than a regular dodge which can help you get out of poxburster radius or get into cover quicker with fewer dodges.
>>574482727Nowhere in darktide is it explained that you can do this, not even in the advanced tutorial I think. You'd only hear about it from other players.
>>574483003How can you spend 700+ hours not accidentally discovering it through the emergent gameplay of accidentally misinputting a dodge slide, and then wonder "what just happened" and try to replicate it?
>>574483139>the emergent gameplay of accidentally misinputting a dodge slideBy not fumbling your inputs.
>>574482460Which one is more useful on higher difficulties overall though
>>574483139because the hand placement required to do a backwards slide is completely unnatural and you're unlikely to do it accidentally.
>>574483220How about just fucking around with your inputs? Play behavior is associated with higher intelligence, maybe you are lacking that.
>still no las sniper for Veteran>still no stubber machine gun for Veteran>still no templar sword and board for Zealot>still no 2-handed hammer or halberd for Ogrynfuck
I can't decide whether to play zealot, psyker, ogryn, veteran, arbites, or keep playing skitarii
>>574483351is it too late to say mootash pharg bros?
>>574483392keep playing skii
>>574483392Do what Melk tells you to do, it's a neat arbitrary goal to make you play different classes.
>>574483538>Do what Melk tells you to do, it's a neat arbitrary goal to make you play different classes.the worlds of someone who should really be taking breaks from the game instead of just trying to wring out drops of fun by establishing ground rules.
>>574483294Depends on your build, and the build everyone else is running, but most vets will run kraks for dealing with crushers and monstrosities quickly, smokes are very handy for buying time against gunners though, more so than a psyker bubble because it doesn't have a health value that ticks down with attacks. Frags are the least useful because at least one or two other people on the team can already deal with hordes effectively.
>>574483658You really enjoy being a catty woman on an anonymous image board, don't you?
>>574483658more like words of someone who has spent 400k melkbux and not gotten a single 21% health curio on zealot. Over 150k on skitarii before I had a full set.
>>574483814sorry for hitting the nail on the head.
>>574483538So what do you spend the melk bucks on?
>>574477968Sounds like goons to me.
>>574483915Curio gambling across characters, banking them in anticipation for the next DLC character to gamble curios on when you hit 30 so you can get an instant full set without having to play the shopclick waiting game.
>just grab basic curios and update them when I see improvements in stockI'm not gonna lose sleep over 3% more health
i just download a mod that tells me when max curios spawn
I don't equip curios
i run 3, +3 stamina curios on each class, it lets me sprint forever
>>574482457Kerillian hides her guilt about getting all of Kruber's comrades killed by being prickly.
Max curios are a myth propagated by big Brunt
>>574482457>the average warhammer dwarf would actually literally rather die than help humans with maintenance, give them dwarf-made supplies, or even speak their language around them, so they made him nicer so people wouldn't hate himWrong. The dwarfs in general have regularly provided dwarfen technology to the men of the empire, from bronze making to gunpowder, they frequently honor the alliance and friendship sigmar struck with them thousands of years ago, and the personal bodyguards of imperial nobles are most often equipped with plate armor personally forged by dwarf smiths.It was the dwarfs that provided the ancient human refugees with supplies as they crossed the world's edge mountains to what would become the empire while fleeing orks in the dark lands.Trade between the empire and dwarf holds is frequent and dwarfs are a more common ally to the empire than even the bretonnians.And a dialect of khazalid is taught in the cult of sigmar and learned by devout sigmarites to allow them to communicate with dwarfs in their own language. Saltzpyre likely knows how to speak khazalid himself.
amazing! i didnt even get to move
>>574484670Ubersreik wasn't Kruber's regiment, he had already changed career path to mercenary by then
Is there a way to filter missions in quickplay? Rolling steel always has the worst shitters imaginable fighting poxwalkers somewhere way back while I have to try to do the objective entirely by myself and then inevitably get swarmed and sniped and burned
>>574485269>Is there a way to filter missions in quickplay?No, your only option is to manually select missions when the ones you don't like are in rotation
>>574484740+3 stams are for real. +17% Toughness, too. I have one of each.I don't think +2 wounds are for real though.
>>574485043>Wrong. The dwarfs in general have regularly provided dwarfen technology to the men of the empire, from bronze making to gunpowder, they frequently honor the alliance and friendship sigmar struck with them thousands of years ago, and the personal bodyguards of imperial nobles are most often equipped with plate armor personally forged by dwarf smiths.It's all the old castoffs and the like though, they taught humans how to use gunpowder but they don't give them new dwarf-made gear except in very special circumstances. You could have also mentioned that THE warhammer is a gift from the dwarfsI mean 'umgak' literally means 'human-made' but dwarfs use it to mean 'shit'. Their relationship is one of the most positive in warhammer but they're still prickly in their own ways
>>574485392Just because the dwarves practice export control on their good stuff doesn't mean that they aren't close allies with the empire
am i missing sumn or is this new tech?
>>574485392>It's all the old castoffs and the like though, they taught humans how to use gunpowder but they don't give them new dwarf-made gear except in very special circumstancesIf a human can afford to buy it they'll be able to find a dwarf merchant that can sell him dwarf firearms of reasonable quality.>You could have also mentioned that THE warhammer is a gift from the dwarfsAs were the personal weapons of the elector counts, the runefangs.>I mean 'umgak' literally means 'human-made' but dwarfs use it to mean 'shit'"Made in china" is used to mean "shit" but that doesn't mean everyone who uses the term universally hates chinese people on an ethnic basis. Dwarfs are very direct and blunt and it is no different with their acknowledgement that human wares are inferior in quality as a rule.Greatswords wear dwarf made plate armor for a reason.
>>574482589I use it to keep moving a bit while reloading or quelling.
>>574478205As a loli true!>>574479547True she’s kinda alright
>>574483392When I get home I'm going to buy sanity-click and see fhgtagning is fun or not.
>>574485947probably just levelling the gun
>>574424551>https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/628 View model tweakerpsa that this mod just ctd's after you die and start spectating
>>574482457>average warhammer dwarf would actually literally rather die than help humans with maintenance, give them dwarf-made supplies, or even speak their language around themEven the most cursory glance at their relationship in lore shows this is wrong. The two factions have had their differences and of course you have individual dwarfs who feel like that but both sides have lent aid to each other a number of times, way more than Elves have done for either pretty sure, what you’re describing sounds more in line with Chaos Dwarfs
>>574486592No need to keep playing a match after you die anyway, everyone else is a jobber except me so my death is a sign no one in the group is surviving.
>>574486592Just don't die. The team is going to wipe if you die, so it doesn't matter if you ctd
>>574486750>>574486826i am a le shitter
>>574486895Recognizing that you're shit is the first step to gitting gud
>>574487021no its not. some people like me simply never improve no matter how much effort you put in.
>>574450825>lol dude no one cares if you're good at singleplayer shooters. literally not a single person cares. they are an exercise in memorization, not skill.You're the first one to say anything about being "good" at games being important li'l cuz, seems like you're projecting some insecurities. I suppose you feel that multiplayer PvE games are different and skillful though?
>>574486895In that case leaving so they have an interim bot and eventually better player is the just option
>>574487245Yes it is
>>574487543well I know I'm worthless dead weight and I still never improve. I'm probably handicapped and never got diagnosed if almost everyone I interact with seems to improve at a much faster than me. I'm just fucking retarded
>>574487379i play mostly damnation and sometimes auric and i perform (according the scoreboard kills) as the top player most games, doesnt mean im good but they probably arent getting a better player joining
>>574482457I haven’t seen this happen to anyone else but Kerillian she really is just that annoying
>>574487853Say no more, I accept you into my havocs.
>>574487853You have depression, and probably vitamin deficiencies as a result fucking with your brain chemistry.
>>574487363no i think multiplayer pvp games are different and skillful
>>574450825There are multiplayer shooters that are easier than some singleplayer shooters because the average player is easier to overcome than the bots in the singleplayer game.
>>574487853You should transition. At least trannies are good at video games even if they're depressed losers
>>574488580no u
>>574488580You don't need to be a tranny to be a depressed loser. I would know.
>>574489292not all depressed losers are troons, but all troons are depressed losers
>>574487995It happens to all warhammer elves. Teclis and Tyrion are just unironic heroes and allies to humankind and order, the eldar get treated as if they're constantly 100% scheming to ensure humans die if it'll help eldar survive, even though there are many cases of them actively sacrificing eldar for the greater good of the galaxy, sure that includes them, but they'll do things like stop tyranids at a source before they can create a massive hive fleet, dying in the process
>>574489449*Teclis and FinubarTyrion could not give a single fuck about humanity
>train mission>niggers go down and trapped left and right>carrying the entire time>boss force pushes me off the train>hanging there>they kill the boss>say in chat to get me up the boss is dead we're fine>robo runs past me to destroy the computers>okay fine he's playing it safe and wants the mission done>the vet who spent 80% of the mission dead just runs right past me and stands in the compute room doing nothing>the ogryn fighting back to horde attempts to save me at the last second but I dieWe won, and I think the ogryn wanted to attempt to rescue me but fuck that kinda tilted me.
My skitarii is canonically very cute under the implants
>>574489912got yourself in that situation pal*farts on you and runs away
>>574489912Heh, let this be a lesson to you kid. It's those that give the most to the Emperor that become his martyrs.
>>574490113This really has been a shit day of pub runs for me.
>>574489912Your fault for conditioning them.>guy gets netted>huh??>tardbrain lags a second, finally looks over>he's already being helped by the good guy>repeat 5 times>good guy goes down>oh haha the good guy will get him>runs past like a tard
>>574486678elves help humans all the time. of course, dark elves are a much bigger deal than chaos dwarfs so they do have a negative balance, but elves helped create the colleges of magic, loremasters will join human armies to share their centuries of combat experience fighting chaos, they will gift or trade ithilmar gear, their finest metal, to strong allies, even though no one else knows how to forge it, wood elves will stop beastmen incursions in brettonia and the empire (though they also eat people so they're a bit less pleasant overall), and they send armies to assist human nations if they deem it worthyof course they're also haughty assholes, i just mean dwarfs also are. there's a famous example where loeun louncoeur and thorgrim met>On this day am I reminded of my meeting with Leoncoeur, king of that human province they call ‘Bretonnia’. My throng was in the Grey Mountains to burn out some bandit lord based within the lands of Karak Norn. The umgi king had, I presume, mustered to similar purpose. Suffice to say that the thaggi stronghold was crushed, the thief-lord slain by my own axe. This then left the issue of captives. The manling king did plead with me on their behalf. ‘They were without choice,’ he did say, for they were but starving peasants, and did proceed to speak at length upon a code he referred to as ‘chivalry’.>Perhaps such philosophy is the consequence of harbouring elgi within one’s borders.>‘They had a choice,’ I did patiently remind this young king, and they had chosen not to starve. The soil of Karak Norn was well nourished that day. There can be no tolerance for oathbreakers, even amongst the younger races. How else are they to learn, if not by relentless example?
>>574489912he was on conditioned ground
cant have been the only one.
>>574487245There are limits to your abilities, but recognizing your shortcomings immediately places you in a league beyond those who thank they do no wrong and just deflect blame to external scapegoats when shit hits the fan.For example, if you know that you cannot defeat ragers in melee to save your life, then simply defensively blocking and pinging the rager until someone else kills it is orders of magnitude preferable to someone who button mashes his way through the rager and loses 3/4 of his hp in the process.
>>574490467Killing thieves does not make you an asshole.
>>574488078Odd callout to make in /coopg/ then but aight. Maybe you're the resident L4D versus main.
The skitarii weapons are kind of boring
>>574492807I like the sword/dagger combo and the musket thing.
>>574492807Yep, time to return to my estranged friend the power falchion
>>574492929reminds me too much of kerillian's sword and dagger which honestly was brutally overpowered
>>574490467I never said Elves haven’t helped (of course they have), but when you look at the track record of both, Dwarfs have been the bigger help and are also nowhere near as smug, spiteful or condescending as Elves. There was a short story about an Elf who visited a human coastal village famed for its wine, and once he decided that he didn’t like it he literally burnt the place to the ground. Dwarfs can be assholes but I don’t recall anything on that level for something so petty off the top of my head (and of course there’s still animosity between Dwarfs and Elves since the War of the Beard but that’s neither here or there).>wood elves will stop beastmen incursions in brettonia and the empireThat’s also more-so to stop them from gaining ground, it benefits them just as much to not have the Beastmen on their doorstep, the Empire is marginally more preferable in that regard
>>574493149The closest are exceptional examples of humans being either greedy or forgetful and swindling dwarfs out of a couple coins and then doubling down when confronted, the dwarfs responding very disproportionately.
>>574456641>give me a thousan diamantine
>>574491401no the first thing I did was accidentally pet my dog in the mourning star.
>>574428251>you are now remembering when Darktides entire weapon roster was viable in Auric, when Auric was its own game mode.>you are now realizing that Havoc and it's unmitigated horseshit has created an environment where only 3-5 weapons per class is viable and only 1-2 builds are viable.>you are now realizing that Darktide used to actually allow you to fuck around with different builds without feeling like you were throwing matches
>>574493997Lower the difficulty
>>574493997Never happened btw
>>574493997I remember when we could choose one talent every 5 levels and damnation was actually a struggle to complete.
>>574492996I remember twin swords being op back when "ability regen on crit" didn't have an internal cooldown and twin swords had an unlisted +50% crit rate on heavy attacks.
>>574494083>>574494204Fix your game Sven and Lars. No one likes Carapace-Click.
>>574494412Shitter
>>574494482post clearance level, now.
>>574486592Ive been using it and that hasn't happened to me yet. People reporting crashing with that mod have most likely fucked with the settings a little too hard and did some whacky shit, or its just conflicting with other mods.
>>57449455140, but how does that change the fact that you're a shitter who makes stuff up?
>>574494412But carapace isn't an issue anymore (don't care about havoc)
>>574494625i hadn't even changed any settings on the mod and it crashed basically straight after i died, other guys in the comments saying the same thing
>>574494628I'm not making shit up, you're running defense for a company that hasn't been able to fix poxbursters since launch, the same company that made vanguards, and plasma gunners.Surely you're being retarded on purpose, right?
>>574494412Just play on a lower difficulty where the shit weapons can do well. Just play heresy if you absolutely must take the heavy sword and infantry autogun into a game.
>>574489449The Eldar sure but that’s just because of the wider attitude of the race, I don’t think anyone denies they do have some good and solid guys like Eldrad, they definitely put their own well being first but that’s to be expected. AFAIK everyone knows guys like Teclis and Aenarion are cool. Kerillian’s attitude seems unique amongst most of the renowned named characters but maybe I just haven’t read enough of them and don’t know about the wider attitudes among the fanbase.
>>574494892Nice goalpost shiftI accept your concession
>>574495051that isn't a goalpost shift, but alright.this is your last (you).
>>574495227>so retarded he doesn't even know what he's sayingNo surprise here
>>574495050>some good and solid guys like EldradEldrad is directly responsible for Ghazghkull and did not warn the Imperium at all after orchestrating his rise to power because the war saved a few thousand eldar at the ongoing cost of millions of humans. He's as much an asshole as any of the other eldar, he only gives as much of a shit about humanity as he does because he's implicitly aware that if mankind falls then the eldar are fucked, but humans are still just primitive animals to him.
Both Elves and Humans have a literal district of their own inside the capital of the largest human nation in Warhammer fantasy lore. In 40k lore the Emperor was trained in swordfighting by Eldrad, and the eldar help humans all the time. Dwarfs dont exist.
so why do good girls like bad guysi've had this question for a really long time
>>574496329Elves and dwarfs* have a district I meant to say
>>574496519flawed premise, there are no good girls
>>574496329>In 40k lore the Emperor was trained in swordfighting by Eldradwait are you serious? I've never heard of this before.
>>574496641Yes it was in one of the new heresy books covering the duel between horus and the emperor and it is revealed that the latter was trained in swordfighting by Eldrad.
>>574496329why is it brown. some character?
>>574496641>>574496834End and the Death Vol 3, there's a bunch of small quotes but I think Horus reflects on it when fighting big E>He turns, head low, and applies a stunning sequence of sword-strokes that He must surely have been taught by an aeldari autarch. You struggle to hold guard. You can’t get past their lethal precision.
>>574495957Didn’t he and some others come to the Imperium’s aid during the War of the Beast too? Like I said he and the others are certainly more concerned with saving themselves but by Eldar standards he’s practically a saint
>>574496872There have always been black elves.
>>574496519Girls don't like boys. Girls like cars and bunnies.
>>574497324They help sometimes, but it's always a quid pro quo thing, all their decision making runs along the lines of saving their own asses somewhere down the line. If mankind falls to chaos, they're fucked, if mankind falls to the orks, they're fucked, if mankind falls to a stiff breeze, they're fucked. It's worth keeping in mind that Eldrad killed basically all of humanity's perpetuals during the horus heresy to make his farseeing clearer, and it's all but confirmed that the perpetuals were the men of gold that had been keeping humanity largely out of trouble for tens of thousands of years from behind the scenes, and their deaths are likely why the imperium turned to such a shithole so quickly after the horus heresy ended.This places Eldrad on the same tier of Fucked Everything Up Forever as Erebus.
I've done all the psyker penances, I am two away from finishing veteran, only about 5 from finishing zealot, and let me tell you something.The gunlugger/Point Blank Barrage Ogryn is the worst shit in the game I hate it. It feels like you are playing some PS3 shooter shit from 2003. And you HAVE to use the shitty stubbers to proc lucky crit to get the penances done.
>>574496519psychopathy is a selected trait due to their predisposition and ability to push other people down to pull themselves up without qualms which leads to higher levels of status or resources which is what most women consider to be important on a base level, also women are more susceptible to group think and general authority figures
>>574497864Eldrad at least has the excuse that he was trying to do a "good thing" (help his people)Erebus was pure malice. Always was.
>>574449796>Decapitator stacks fall off one at a time and not all at onceI'm pretty sure it didn't work like that on rashad, unless they changed it. That would explain why they cut the duration of stacks in half too.Anyway, I don't believe it's possible to get any stacks if a soulblaze psyker is present, which is the main problem.
>>574496519>>574496624>>574497506>>574498027It’s a shitpost meme song in case anyone didn’t actually know
>>574497864>They help sometimes, but it's always a quid pro quo thing, all their decision making runs along the lines of saving their own asses somewhere down the line. If mankind falls to chaos, they're fucked, if mankind falls to the orks, they're fucked, if mankind falls to a stiff breeze, they're fucked. It's worth keeping in mind that Eldrad killed basically all of humanity's perpetuals during the horus heresy to make his farseeing clearer, and it's all but confirmed that the perpetuals were the men of gold that had been keeping humanity largely out of trouble for tens of thousands of years from behind the scenes, and their deaths are likely why the imperium turned to such a shithole so quickly after the horus heresy ended.The guys eldrad killed literally wanted to make humanity go extinct
>>574497864That’s just a theory. We still don’t know who the Men of Stone, Gold, etc. were. We likely never will either. Besides, he also spared some Perpetuals like Grammaticus where he was able and even offered him redemption from killing everyone.
>>574499307That's the cabal, different guys, Eldrad has killed a lot of people so it's easy to get confused.
>>574497345damn (((Tzeentchian))) tricks…
>>574499331>We still don’t know who the Men of StoneGW will probably make those the Votann
>>574496872because sexy choco elves make my dick diamonds
>>574497345So she has a cloaca, right?
>>574455871>Delete MortisMortis is good to do some penance without triggering other people just for because you don't pick meta skill nodes or build overall.
