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Eternal Charlotta thread.

Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en
Wiki: https://gbf.wiki/Granblue_Fantasy:_Relink

>FAQs
Base game FAQ: https://rentry.org/RelinkFAQ
ER DMG rundown: https://rentry.co/ytczavom

>Patch 2.0.2 details
https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/

>Send your feedback here
https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedback

Previous Thread: >>574295496
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>>574369165
I want to marry this salsa
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>>574369174
It is. And Id shares his Japanese VA with Jack
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Charlotta is the undisputable best character in all of granblue
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>>574369165
So you're telling me that this are all characters that I can have and play with? This game is dense as fuck.

How big is the new DLC?
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>>574369165
My wife cake
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I remember when fights were fun and not just an AoE spam slop
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>>574369581
what
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>>574369420
There are actually three more characters that you can unlock once you beat the base game story
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>>574369420
I'm fucked, was playing with ranged Sanji now I got ranged Zoro.
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>3 seofons spamming unlimited blade works sword dump on the boss during link time
It's fucking criminal how such aura is still outdone by one fediel.
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>>574369420
Yes and a lot of them have fairly unique playstyles and mechanics. The new DLC is a lot of reused bosses with a few new skills and some completely new bosses. The "roguelike" mode isn't much good except for newer players who need to get some materials for weapons, for them it's pretty useful.
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am retarded, i need THE Fediel build pls
im mainly gonna use her by myself, i just wanted an easier way to get mats for Fraux, Bea and Maglielle first, fuck Mana and Furycane being so fucking stingy with their mats
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>>574369779
Yeah but Fediel will never look cool like Siete during link time.
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>>574369975
Besides, he's holding back anyway
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>>574369871
you use normal sigils with the multi-finisher mastery trait
that's it that's the build that's character building in relink
then you ignore everything about your mastery trait except the part where it says you can do 5 finishers in a row because the claw buff is not worth engaging with
it's literally nothing but some overtuned damage numbers on one mastery trait line that make it function in an unintended way where you don't use most of it
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>>574369581
idk man im having so much fun spamming infinity za warudo
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>>574369581
Just stop fighting Faa.
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GIVE PRAISE
FOR HE HAS NO EQUAL
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AT JOBBING
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Has the council decided yet on the best AI party? Sieg/mag/enlisted fed?
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>>574366861
GGs, I really need to rebuild my Zeta because my god that was an embarassing display from me lol
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YOUR FATE IS OVER RETARD
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>>574370570
Rosetta and Id are pretty strong from my experience
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>>574370574
Thanks for joining bros.
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>the only supp damage stone wrightstone right now is on fucking weak point damage
ughhhh
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Man I just can't figure out whats different this time around
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>>574370570
Fediel is mediocre as an AI. The AI likes to combo claws leading to hitting air while bosses teleports away. On her ball spam build the AI usually averages 3 balls, using all 5 is rare from my personal experience.
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>>574370312
>entire party forgot to save SBA for the last attack
My fate was over, retard...
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Does nobody play Siete?
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>>574371004
Io has different hair color.
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>spent 5 hours building fraux
>too complicated to play properly
>went back to Id unga bunga instead
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Why not just use your favorites as ai?
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>>574370832
well the other skill of my supp damage stone is a berserker :(
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>>574371193
What's complicated? Just stance flip for cap up and fill gauges while skill spamming
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>>574369165
Where can I find the heal / shield build for Cag, help im retarded

Also who are the best AI companions for AFK farming?
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Is it better to use non-Stun Power wightstones to buff your character weapons since you want to get +45 stun power from the sigils for the cap up mastery?
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>>574371004
If you can't find the difference and it's not the first lady's hair color then it's usually safe to send it on the walking man, he always has some slight hair difference or something
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>>574371379
primary stat on wrightstones doesnt matter
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Does Fediel have some kind of skill damage build? If I want to build around her big ball
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>>574371004
Is it the statue facing left or is the guy patrolling around abnormally large
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>>574371004
cats can change sizes
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>>574371004
The little girl is missing
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>>574371182
Hatsune Io is a valued member of this crew please do not slander her

>>574371431
Her changing hair color is by far the most annoying change to find the first time

>>574371589
Statue always faces left but this guy has always been 6'1 hasn't he?
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RAIDINGU FURIII!!
ITADAKIIII!!
HAAAAATSU ONU FAIYAAAAAAH!!
HORYAAAAAH
TONDEKEEEEEEE!!
KOKODAAAAAA!!
TOTSUGEKIIIIII!!
HURYAAAAAAAAH...
DOUDAAAAA!!
ITADAKIIIIII!!
KOREDE.... KIMETE ARUUUU!!!!
HUUURAAAAAAH...
KOITSU WA.... DOU DAAA!!!
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>Spent millions on msp on beatrix
>Hear talk that she's low tier
did I fuck up
Is she really low tier
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>>574371173
I don't like his base attacks
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>>574372193
she's fine but hard to play
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>>574372193
I'm sorry
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>>574372039
Is it just me or does she yell her own name sometimes
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>>574372193
no i've been using her up to infinity and i think she's pretty good. she gets fucked by some fights because they let you hit them for like 20 seconds and then immediately go into bloodlust just when you've set up your gold clock, but if they don't do that, you're pretty comfy. golden clock with some defenses is max unga bunga, you're immune to debuffs, have very high mitigation and have a lot of drain + regen
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>>574372193
Permanently bricked it's so over she is rated D(umb)
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Save her
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>>574372442
>>574372312
>>574372267
What about Song-chan, is she any good or is she dogshit tier as well
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>>574372193
Instant loss is canon for Bea
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>>574372596
>as well
i told you i think bea is pretty good other than a few fights where the attack windows are very small

i don't know anything about song
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>>574372596
isn't she like the worst character in the game now?
You can tell because she's both a cute girl and a fairly recent character but no one plays her
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>>574372428
She yells her sword's name a lot
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>>574372039
What's the lore behind Beatrix shouting in Estonian when she switches clock buffs?
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>>574372596
Dunno about her damage but the fact that attacking with her keeps knocking her backwards is extremely annoying and is enough to make me not want to play her
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get in losers it's time to slimeblast
equip your path to mastery summons
37E5 C6PA T8V8 T59S
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>>574372523
buff her max stack duration please cygames... A few more seconds please...
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>>574372428
I think she said neato when you perfect dodge or something
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fedielbros?
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>>574373314
not my fediel
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>>574373314
turned on full assist mode :)
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>>574373314
a good chunk of the fediels i meet either don't know about ball throwing or they refuse to engage in it
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>>574373314
id is fucking absurd damage
>>574373495
probably because everyone is shitting their pants endlessly over how broken finisher spam is and how it's killing the game and everyone who plays (one version of) fediel is killing the game and hates the game and hates everyone and wants no one to ever do anything and and and they're MVPing and I'm playing charlotta so it should be ME NOT HER
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>>574372039
Everything else at 0 except music and voice
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Just did Infinity Lucilius at M41 (Mag) with my two friends M47 (Sandy) M50 (Fraux), and an M30 cag bot.
Worst fight in the game so far. The stun check at the start was especially retarded. Also the general screen vomit was insane. I couldn't see shit.
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>>574373061
>no sessions found
Nyo...
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>>574373832
i think bubz is worse in terms of visual clarity honestly, lucilius's moves are very big and flashy but i can't tell what bubz is doing half the time
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>wanted to play yoda because his combo mechanic is cool, he's a funny little dude, and he's the most counter centric character next to lancelot
>endgame yoda is just spamming mirror image for your whole team while going unga

Curse cylink.
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>>574374037
Bubs moves around more and is a lot more in your face
NTA but also a fellow Maggie player, if Bubs decides to focus on me things go to shit really fast. I can at least breathe a little against Luci most of the time.
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>>574372596
Her AI has the be the worst or competing with the worst AI in the game but playing her is fun. Not sure about damage probably middling at best, but its hard to evaluate because she's also slinging all the debuffs on bosses so she's packing utility. Except when some bosses decide to turn veil on for a little bit like bubz and then it just kinda sucks. Also yeah all her combo finishers move her, 2 of them always knock her back while the last one and mercifully the first in the chain is omnidirectional so you'll be moving around a lot. I don't recall if she has damage falloff though
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>>574374181
you can just play the other mastery traits man, the game is not that hard or serious
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>>574374181
the mirror image is mainly so that you don't also die while spamming perfect input combo finishers
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>>574374181
>spamming mirror image for your whole team while going unga
I use mirror image so I get mirror image and if the other 3 idiots are lucky I have shrouds to share it to them
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>Celestial terra lv 15 with 100% trait are from Lucilius
>It's the fight I have the most trouble to handle
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>>574373832
Luci is probably the hardest fight in the game, m50+5 gets fucked just as hard. The stun check at the start is a big filter
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>>574374181
Yoda was a godsend in base relink, probably even more now with the ammount of random bullshit that hits you most of the time. Not many people play him though.
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>>574374534
terra is a meme anyway, most people have no space after they run the higher value traits
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>>574374534
Well it is the hardest fight
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>>574374647
Then why should I be looking for?
There are so many fucking mandatory sigils that I figured I'll use my summons to clear out space for my characters since they're going to get stuck with those anyway
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>>574374783
The echoes,mainly
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>>574374647
Is the Celestial priority
Lumen/Nyx > Ventus > Aqua >>> Terra >>>>>>>>>> Incendo
I currently have the first three equipped and don't feel the need to slot in Terra
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>>574374859
He has berserk echo so this change nothiiiiiiiiiiiing
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Europoor Vikala.
You are requested at the Versus thread.
Put the ears on.
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How's my potato in ER? Is she still doing dummy high damage numbers? What's her current meta?
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>>574374783
lumen, ventus, then aqua if you have space. but ideally you want war elemental, spartan and berserker echo on your summons since they can't be synthesized. if you can trash war ele and the echo sigils from your build, you can replace them with blue/pink sigils with celestial lumen/ventus/aqua/supp/dmg cap secondaries and this will proc the hp/defense master trait nodes which give you quite a hefty amount of tankiness for free
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retard here, does MSP over 50 do nothing? is it just for the achievement?
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>>574375462
It gave you a popup. Should have read it
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>>574373314
where do you get the updated dps meter? i only see the one from 2024 when i look for it
i've never used it and my kit has slow so i'd kinda like to know how much im ACTUALLY contributing
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>>574375462
You really didn't pay attention to the popup right?
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>>574375585
it's on nexus but it's vibecoded by a different guy using ai so it's kinda buggy. i wouldn't completely trust the numbers it's spitting out
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>>574375585
The original isn't updated yet because the creator is currently still playing through the DLC. There is a fork (?) on Nexus Mods made using AI if you really want a meter now.
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>>574375202
>What's her current meta?
instead of YX, you do YY. spin is dead and now plunge is her best combo
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Are matchmaking servers down or am I really the only one queueing for hexa?
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>>574372039
Gottem
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>>574376239
Glad to see her still doing nicely. I want to avoid the Fediel hivemind.
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>>574376287
Nevermind restarting the game fixed it.
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All I want for Relink 2 is for them to fix the visual vomit issue. I just don't even know what's happening 90% of the time. There's just too much garbage on screen, which I actually would be perfectly fine with IF the game wasn't expecting me to also perfect dodge and block through all that.
I legitimately don't even know what's happening when I'm fighting bubs. I only know what part of my combo I'm at because Y switches to combo finisher.
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>>574376730
you can turn visual effects from allies off
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Is this the sex thread
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What about that astral from a few events ago?
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>>574376730
I wonder what kind of excuse would they use to have the characters start from scratch for a sequel.
By the end of the expansion they're too damn powerful.
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>>574376841
This is the Charlotta thread yes
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>Get in an infinity rushifah
>Party can't deal with the first stun check
>2 players instaquit
Be honest with me anons, do any of you bother with trying to do this with pubs?
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>>574377206
I did and it took me more tried than all he others combined. About twice as many actually
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what weapon tree for AI? still stun?
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>>574377206
I got S++ with pubs the 4th time I cleared it
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>>574377019
Oh, you mean just like how everyone in relink starts at level 1 despite that canonically in this timeline they've already defeated jobcillus? Stop being a woofus
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Is conflux really the best way to get the transcedence materials? I've done a couple of runs to get the stuff for a second character but I go back to town and I'm still missing stuff. Am I picking the wrong stuff? It feels like if I just do the fights it should be quicker now.
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>>574377019
Danchud took a strong while traveling and lost all of his sigils!
Anyway
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>>574377019
>what kind of excuse would they use
Primal beast. It's always primal beast.
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>>574371379
The other primary stats on wrightstones are all dogshit anyways so do whatever.
I didn't bother doing more than 2 stun power sigils for the damage cap bonus either.
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>>574377206
Yup, I just like doing multiplayer especially now that it's active. I try not to take things so seriously, don't mind losing a quest every now and then. I went into this dlc totally blind and I had not built for stun at all since I went full damage monkey brain pre-patch as did everyone else so my first time fighting faa I also failed the stun check and it was funny.

On the opposite end of that, I sometimes get paired with super pros that just rape the boss so I barely really do anything at all.
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>>574377504
I don't think so unless you're missing a lot of mats
for specific mats, it's better to just do that quest
for refinium I and II, just slimeblast
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3 Stun are kind of fixed, but what of the other 2? 2 HP? 2 ATK?
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>>574377206
i'm currently trying to farm on a non fediel character and for some reason all the fediels i get are beyond dogshit
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What's "pubs" and "pugs"?
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>>574372523
Is her support mastery usable?
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>>574377651
Doesn't really matter
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>>574377504
I feel like conflux is only worth if you're missing every single ingredient, but if you've been playing for a while you should have a bunch of the generic mats already and you're only missing a few specific ones
I've fully transcended every weapon for 4 characters and every time I just did the quests for the stuff I was missing instead
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>>574377738
pubs is public
pugs is a specific group
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>>574377651
It's funny how you can't even consider that any combination of 2 hp 2 atk or 2 crit, doesn't matters.
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>>574377504
The main time save of Conflux is not having to double check what items you're missing and where to get it between levels
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>>574377646
Yeah I was just checking and some stuff just doesn't drop there at all. The gallanza and maglielle new mats for example and a couple of others.
>>574377779
Yeah that's what I'm doing now, I wonder if there's a good reward for completing all the conflux mastery nodes.
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>>574377779
Conflux is preferable to re-fighting Excavalion since he didn't get a harder fight that drops mountains of Hearths
Besides that its whatever.
I'm surprised there weren't more duo bosses in Chaos, didn't even get a proper Gallanza + Maggie rematch just the separate fights.
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>>574377651
>+5k hp or +1k atk
It really doesn't matter
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>>574377206
Yeah and it still beats the piss out of attempting Zero with pubs when it was fresh. Worst Infinity for me might be The World purely because people can't perfect block consistently enough.
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>>574378006
>Gallanza + Maggie
they realised how cancer that fight was
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>>574376730
The only hard to see thing on Bubs is his basic combo that deals fuckall damage until the final telegraphed slash. Floor explosions are clearly visible. He takes like 2 seconds to whip out his orbs and you can easily position yourself to see the floor waves at the last phase.
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>>574378168
That didn't stop them with the Lucy rematch
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>>574377206
I first cleared everything with pubs
Faa I might have gotten lucky with decent randoms because I don't remember it taking too long
Bubs was a nightmare with randoms though
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Luci is like the mascot of grub endgame though
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>>574378302
Having a 5 year cooldown between opportunities to stun him is gay
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Bahamut should be the mascot of endgame, not the homosexual angel that FHKR is obsessed with
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fkhr hates granblue and wants it to die
it's the only explanation for angelslop and shipniggery
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Infinity Versa not having End of Ragnarok as his boss theme is a crime, what were they thinking
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>>574378168
You mean fun.
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>>574378480
We had a bahamut fight and everyone hate it.
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where's the zero certified lobby, i'm tired of getting shitters
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>>574378724
Is everyone in the room right now
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Ive been playing for a few days and the only time I've ever felt that its time to start seriously grinding my NPC characters is Evil Blackwyrm
oh my god man that fight is so annoying
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>>574378937
Yes.
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>>574378937
if you ask if luci and bubs fights are more popular, vast majority would say so. proto bahamut and bahamut versa are more of a spectacle, and I say this as one of the few that are fine with versa's fight.
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>>574378724
>>574379064
No idea why Proto Bahas fight has a fucking turret section, lamest shit ever
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Sometime I genuinely feel like I deal zero fucking damage as eustace.
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I can't find a slot for the crab sigil, which of the damage cap sigils is the least impactful to drop between lumen, aqua and ventus because they're the only three I could swap out for it.
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>>574379064
>>574379167
chaos++ pbaha doesn't have a mandatory turret section
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>>574379314
I don't remember which is which but drop a cap up not the damage amp
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>>574379190
And you'd be right.
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wait why did Excavalion not get a new fight
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>>574379483
Lumen it is then.
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>>574379567
I fucking wonder why Excavalion did not get a new fight
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>>574379483
That would be Lumen then
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>>574379567
He's a bro and is helping you with the chain bursts bro, have you not seen him?
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>>574379567
Because excavalion is a shitty fucking fight and even after they nerfed the fight it still took too fucking long
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>>574378006
>>574379567
I would like to take this opportunity to point out that we still don't have a proper Lilith boss fight, despite there being (a scripted loss) battle against her in the story mode.
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Lilith as a boss would be cool, yeah
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I need stout heart summon bros any rooms can help me?
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>>574379519
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>>574379801
She's on the search list for summons in the menu, does she actually drop somewhere in Infinity?
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>>574380146
I think she drops from Versa. She and Rolan are also the only War Elemental summons so she's worth farming for
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Finally a good drop damn
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>>574379740
they managed to make managarmr nihila a non-shit fight in endless ragnarok I'm sure they could have done it for excav and angra mainyu
but we HAVE to fight lucilius again we HAVE to you DIDN'T GRIND HIM ENOUGH BEFORE you HAVE to fight lucilius you just HAVE to ok???? he's so cool... paradise losto!!!!
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how do I amass a large quantity of those? I keep running out of them. I'm in early chaos++
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>>574380146
>>574380274
she drops from versa infinity
shes the first clear guaranteed drop
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>>574381057
I meant the L crystals..
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>>574381057
>>574381256
You get tons from endgame bosses
plus uhhh rafale coins? Idk a better use for those
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>>574380705
That's my favorite summon and what I'd use as my 4th summon for builds that don't use stout heart, really good. Love the summon effect. My other choice for summon would be referee but I haven't seen if this sequence is possible
>link time > 4 SBA > referee > link time
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>>574379467
i feel like almost the entire fight is a turret section since i can't hit him as a melee character
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>>574381256
Autobattle one of the "Kill monsters in Y minutes" quests or just wait for the end of Chaos++ to dump 50 crytstals per fight on you
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I'm trying my best but those feddies are just too strong.
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>>574381361
You can't hit the new fight at range either they made the invisible wall at the edge of the ship way pickier unless you're playing Eugen for manual aim
I re-fought old Proto Bahamut as Magielle and my swords could chase him off the edge but they can't in the Chaos++ fight.
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>>574371193
crux fraux is smooth(brain).
Wait for boss to chill then deadlands and then spam your other skills meanwhile
When you get gauge maxed out wait for boss to chill and then deadlands it
When link time happens you shoot up from deadweight to #1 dps god by spamming deadlands, be sure to be using a normal one towards the end so that you get a free stocked up card deadlands
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>>574381361
I just rek him like rek it wralph when he lands after first skyfall and hopefully sba his ass to supernova and then link time him to death by the second landing
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>>574379567
im so happy he doesn't. I've been dreading seeing him pop up in the quest list
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How am I supposed to build up avatar gauge as Siete
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>>574371379
tl;dr it doesn't matter, use whatever has the right traits that you need.
You do get a tiny bit more HP if you use HP 20 and 3 stunpowers compared to stun 20 and 2 stun powers 1 hp
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>Swap in Io AI while I play substitute captain
>She's doing a great job, damage seems really good, stuns are coming in faster, and she's typically 10-15% ahead of everyone despite only having uplift 15
>Also noticing that I'm getting nuked from substitute damage out of nowhere a lot more
>Have to stop substituting after gaining max stacks even outside of patterns because of fear of getting nuked
Man come on not like this. I finally find an AI that seems to function well but its too suicidal to pair with substitute. I've had other ranged characters before and I've not had this issue so the only thing I can think is because she's a charge character
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>>574377504
>>574377891
New packs are added to Conflux 5 after you beat Chaos++ Hexa.
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>Do Proto Baha like 20 times to get my missing weapons
>only 3 Terminus drop
I thought they raised the rates on this shit. If it didn't drop the mat to forge Terminus with I'd be mad as hell.
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>>574382058
>I thought they raised the rates on this shit.
They didn't they just gave you the guarantee through those items.
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>Ungaing as Sieg
>Some cutscene happens, as they often do in this game
>Lose my tempo on the mechanic
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH EVERY FUCKING TIMES ONE EXPANSION LATER AND THIS STILL HAPPENS
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>>574381886
She has stout heart while charging
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>>574378480
Tokages are always a meme. Even the gacha's current Super Ultimate Endgame version gets killed in like 4 turns while ignoring all the mechanics.
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>>574379567
the actual raid that nobody actually doing doing after the 1st kino fight
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Is it really true that attack up buffs on YOURSELF don't work on enemies in overdrive? Crazy if true.
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>>574378991
You could've just ran Siegfried or put on slow resistance sigils.
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>>574382371
I thought overdrive enemies get a generic damage taken reduction, never knew about buffs not working.
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its recommended you get a stout heart summon but doesn't that make all your AIs kinda bad since they'll get the stout heart too? is that just for min maxing your own character in online parties?
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>Sieg Warpath gives him +40% damage dealt on all of his perfect attacks
>he has -30% defense though
Is this the strongest Warpath sigil? This thing is twice the strength of War Elemental, and the defense down seems fine since he has Damage Cut.
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>>574382497
Supposedly it's less of an issue now?
I just have the charge attack = stout heart on a couple of my AIs that need it and never see them die
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whats a satisfying character to play? gran just feels boring and pretty slow for me, i have one ticket so i can unlock one more character
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>>574382263
My man I run a stout heart summon and no one else is getting my downed like her. Is it because she's just standing in one place compared to everyone else running around?
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>>574382163
I gave up and started using his substitute style to get stacks faster and never lose them. Even if you die you only lose one stack, the other two styles remove all of them and it takes too long to build them back up so it feels pointless to even run those styles if you're not constantly topped off on stacks. I'm sure there's a bunch of godlike perfect players out there that don't have that problem but I personally don't want to fight a boss, avoid their attacks and also fight my own mastery style. Not right now at least, maybe later.
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>>574379567
I liked the part where you fight the crystal on his back. I did not like everything else about him. Fuck you for even mentioning him.
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What's the 156th weapon? I have everything else I think and the false sword too
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>>574382716
Zeta is very satisfying to dodge enemy attacks with her loops, and parry stuff on the ground.
Siegfried also feels good to use when you get his timing down
Both are pretty punishing to mess up with though.
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>>574382716
pick someone on design or the little preview
some ive played
>siegfried
>have to time attacks to do your big damage move
>very hard to kill
>charlotta
>brain smooth unkillable de arimasu but boring
>percival
>use skill to charge your attack faster
>can parry with the charge attack
b urself just dont choose ferry like a nonce noob
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>>574382979
The final weapon is your penis wenis of course :3
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>>574382716
That's not enough info to go by, it depends entirely on your preferred style.
But here's some spice to make danchou more interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNuR2B1vGZo
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>>574382497
Less of a problem now. They'll still take hits that they feel won't kill them or hard CC them, and sometimes they will misjudge overlapping attacks and die but thats actually surprisingly rare for them. It only really becomes a problem if they have glass cannon and also if you happen to have someone running substitute because the "don't die or get hard CC" rule doesn't get extended to the substituting party member's HP. Again thats still fine, someone playing substitute can just avoid using those skills during dangerous patterns but AI substitute characters are basically a no-go with how suicidal the rest of the team becomes
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>>574382497
>>574382610
the facetanking interaction from basegame got fixed, now the AI will always try to perfect dodge regardless of the situation
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>>574383235
>Nonce
Brother excluding fediel she's the oldest one there.
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>>574383313
i guess i want someone that feels fast to play, like they do attacks fast
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Are Percival, Eustace and Siegfried/Gallanza objectively the strongest AI to use right now?
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I got all my crobs but I don't seem to have the sigil
>>574383518
lancelot is the fastest but also the gayest
honestly gran is an exceptionally fast character so if he feels slow to you I don't know
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>>574383456
The most I've seen NPCs die is just from burn damage now since it actually hurts
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>>574383604
Isn't Gallanza's damage shit even with a real player
And what's even so special about Percival, he's got a group buff but I doubt on AI he's gonna contribute more than one of the ranged characters.
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>>574382584
It's better now with his DMG Cut and -30% Defense instead of the old 70% Defense buff and -50% Defense, but this Warpath was originally used to get him on par with the rest of the cast in terms of damage output, so take that as you will. Not sure if his numbers changed drastically since base with all the reworking.
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2 of these get in next new character update and I think we all know who are the most likely candidates
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>to progress you need to transcend frauxs weapon
god bro can you stop shilling yourself
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>>574382163
>cutscene
>combo drops
>boss teleport offscreen
>combo drops
>ougi
>combo drops
>cutscene
>combo drops
>ougi to cancel mech
>combo drops
It's all so tiresome
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>>574383883
we're not getting more characters bro
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>before doing ER do some sigil grinding because my powerlevel is so fucking low
>spent like 3 days grinding medals from quick quests to get the shit for sandel character and his accension weapon so I can grind luci cum and eggs from the confluence
>takes an additional 3 days to finish grinding everything for confluence 3 and my whole team
>get to confluence 4
>easy to get sandel items
>easy mat grinding for sigil grinding

I kinda want to kill myself if I'm going to be honest.
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I'm getting filtered trying to play Eustance
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>>574384108
>Didn't prep at all for the expansion because I knew all the old shit was going to be easy to get now
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>>574383883
vajra anus sniffa
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Genuinely what can I do to get stronger? I don't see any path to more power that makes any sense and I'm still too low power to do ER quests. Am I just missing something obvious?
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Is it worth using defensive sigil (like stronghold and steel nerves) if am running gold clock Bea ? Or is the defence from Yellow clock enough ?
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>>574384213
The power rating on the quest means nothing
Just send it nigga you've got a way bigger time limit than you need
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>>574384213
>am i just missing something obvious?
yeah that power is a suggestion and not a requirement and the message saying to get a terminus weapon is retarded
i did that shit at 18k power with an ascension weapon that wasnt even maxed out
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>>574381057
>>574381256
Survival of the fittest in chaos++ drops like 80/run
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>>574384213
Brother you are so fucking overtuned for early ER I didnt even make a terminus weapon for the entry fight
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Is there any hope for Sandalphon... ;_;
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>>574384213
The damage in the Seofon/Tweyen fight is intentionally nerfed so that you can power through it if you need to.
I'd seriously do it, I havent even fought basegame luci and i got through just fine
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Is this game worth it? I was interested back in the day when Platinum was helping with development but my interest kinda fell off at some point in the 10 year development cycle. Idk anything about Granblue Fantasy outside the artists that work on it and I vaguely remember some web-based game I played once decades ago.
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>>574383883
>One character is two Lolis
ToT
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>>574384326
>>574384337
>>574384371
>>574384514
Then why does it list such a huge number if it doesn't matter
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>>574384643
Quit being a bitch and just try the quest
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>>574384521
Its fun
Grindy tho
Getting rid of Platinum was for the best and probably why the game had a 10 year dev cycle. That studio is a shell.
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>>574384521
Think of it like monster hunter but with build autism. If that interests you at all you're the right audience for it.
>>574384643
Because the power rating is made for drooling retards who don't know how to play their character
do you know how to play eustace?
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I can't beat dodge cancel Fediels in merits literally anywhere as Ghandagoza but in Belzeebub I'm beating them basically every time. What is it about Belzeebub that makes Fediel turn into a jobber
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>>574384761
Is it difficult like MH can be?
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>>574384713
Half of Cygames Osaka is devs poached from Platinum
Studio was dying before that but liberal use of gacha money definitely sped it up
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>>574383883
Sheep because iconic and reminds me of early grubbu and dragon because cool and hot
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>>574384847
Depends on what character you play but for the most part the difficulty is always manageable until the endgame where the game kicks you in the nuts and tells you to grind
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I luv dwagon, bros
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>>574377206
Yes because I am the carry.
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>>574384802
>Ghandagoza
Post your build
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is this telling me that this trait needs to have 2 diamonds to be active? or i can select it as it is to enable it?
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>>574385136
How do you play vaseraga? Is it still dodge canceling into his charged attacks?
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>>574369765
and he has a skin with green hair go along with it
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>>574385164
You need to have the "tier" enabled. For levels 2 and 3, that means you need 6 levels on that
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>>574385164
Here's a hint
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>>574383669
well damn, im actually having fun with the gun characters so i guess that's what im playing for now, will try lancelot or percival later
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>>574385263
>Duuhhhhh I'm a fucking retard. How do I play character who just stands in place and does charge attacks.
You can't be serious.
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>>574383669
It's from a sidequest in seedhollow, you might have to do the previous crab sidequests too which should all be instant turn ins
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>>574374783
skills that cant be moved to the back with synthesis or consume two slots IE

War Elemental
Spartan
Zerk
Stout heart
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>>574385263
Skill with charged attacks follow up are his new best combo so you basically slot in immortal pain and every other skill that can be followed up with a charge attack, the jammed one is the best one because of how easy it is to spam it.
Insight tree + cascade + cdr sigils and every heavy attack will make your skills come back really fast and now youre basically immortal and dishing out fucktons of damage for free.
Dodge cancelling your skills into the charge attack is optiomal since its faster but not necessary.
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>>574385634
>have to go through story again collecting crabs again
I'm about to FLIP
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>>574385696
So do I just ignore summons until i can farm these
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>>574385423
i play bea yknow
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What's the fastest method for leveling weapons currently? Trying to get everything up for the AI characters is a fucking pain but they're so far below conflux 5 I need to do it.
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>>574385941
Its not that bad, they show up on the map and you can leave right after you grab them
bit of a chore though
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sigh...ill take it
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this real?
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>>574386120
You're not getting much more from dragons
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>>574385972
God no, theres still amazing comfort like QuickCooldown, Uplift, Guts, Autorerive that are 20 times easier to get and will help you a lot
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>>574386185
Maybe
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>>574386185
its based
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What's the best AFK farming for silver centrums? my boy needs his WEAPON COLLECTION BUFFS
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>>574386717
you get like 40 centrums per late chaos++ quest
it is extraordinarily easy to get weapon collection masteries
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>>574386717
just do 4 dragons
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>>574385142
I won't include the Mastery Traits because I think(?) those are fairly obvious for Ghanda players. Nobody uses Jammed or Skill style. But if you really want that I can do it. I guess the only none obvious part of the build is that I have defensive sigils with secondary offensive so I can get the bonus on the Mastery Traits that gives you more HP and Defense per defense sigil. Heavy on low HP tanking with Garrison to get the punches off.
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>>574382371
Yes attack and def related buffs/debuffs do not work in overdrive
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WIP, I need 2 more summons with either echo/war elemental so I can have the 5 white sigils
Am I forgetting something?
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I've never seen a single Gran online but plenty of Djeetas
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>>574386717
You don't need to afk farm you get infinity centrums in chaos
I had none when I went in and now I'm capped
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>>574383883
Dog and Monkey please.
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Is there a resource for quest rewards yet I dont know where the fuck Griffin 3 is
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>>574384605
They can gattai like gogeta to become one pink shoujo
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>>574386934
swap regen out for nimble defense trait on weapon. otherwise looks good bro. you could try getting a warpath with dmg cap but it will take you 8hrs+ of save scumming i'm pretty sure, so i think that's good enough
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>>574385735
Do you run any quick charge?
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>>574387131
it should have added their ages and measurements together due to the law of conservation of mass
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>>574387230
two times zero is zero
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>>574387135
I like regen but I'll give nimble defense a shot, haven't tried it yet
Thanks bro
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Song bros.. we are shit..

https://youtu.be/zCvjOpYCk4M
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>>574387230
It does make her body odor stronger, to the point everyone can just sniff the air to pinpoint her location
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>>574387230
>>574387720
Drain is underrated too, specially when you are running ventus
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yesterday i ran into a Yoda in a pub and i didn't take a sliver of damage the whole fight
i'm starting to think support characters are the truly overpowered ones
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>>574387709
random literal who and is doing worse than a lot of others..
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>>574387709
I can't speak for the other characters, but this is totally innaccurate. I can get 500 million on the dummy even without fully maxxing out for DPS dummy and keeping all my QOL skills.
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>>574387814
Yoda's entire thing is having infinity mirror image stacks
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>>574387709
Damage tests from someone that doesnt know how to play half these characters epic
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>>574386909
I think you'd have more hp and do more damge if you deleted terra and greater aegis for 2 stun powers
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>>574372523
With sex
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>>574387184
Quick charge lv 15 is enough, you fill the rest with comfort skills and whatever necessary, dmg cap, celestials etc.
But Cdr and Cascade are also necessary if you want to keep looping immortal.
If you can get poise with a good skill it frees up a lot of slots, same with warpath.
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>>574388203
The blue sigils are also for the defense (and technically HP even though its offset by Terra) bonus from the mastery tree. Realistically the defense is very important so I can stay alive at low HP and still afford to take some of the weaker hits enemies dish out.
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I'm sure others felt the same but going through the story areas again for crabs felt nice. They're really beautiful.

I'm pretty sure endless ragnarok is the end of relink and we'll just get a few more quests and some DLC maybe, which is a bit sad because it'd have been great to see a completely brand new area, new towns, new quest locales, etc like a monhun expansion.

I doubt granblue will get much more than Rising and Relink, it seems like its showing its age. But I'm happy we got both.
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>>574388434
how much does cascade actually do if you only hit once every 3 seconds?
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>>574388434
Much appreciated.
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>>574388608
It varies depending on the move already. I don't play Ghanda though so no comment on the specifics.
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>>574388434
How do you have so much stun? Even with the master traits, masteries and max stun power, I'm at 309.
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what's your CHAOS++ pub experience been like so far
i don't think i've had a single failed group since unlocking the difficulty
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>>574388817
Probably summons
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>>574388608
Cascade + Cdr + Poise is ensuring that his immortal buff can get looped at about 5-6 heavy attacks onto the enemy, if youre consistent you can do it right before it falls off so yeah its necessary, otherwise you need an extra heavy attack.
Obviously you need to be consistently hitting the boss so its not perfect but thats part of the fun for me.

>>574388817
My summons have stun traits and i have +20 stun on overmastery so dont worry too much about it
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>>574388896
Is celestial Lumen worth on him? Feels like I'm going to be at low health often with the immortal buff.
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I am expecting another update and that update will have our excavallion and it will be excraballion and if they don't do this they've failed us all
>>574387373
home...
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>>574388850
The only filter has been faa with newcuties wanting to attack swords instead of faa sometimes. The rest is a bit easy. I think all the postgame chaos++ stuff related to terminus upgrades should have been in the Defy Infinity category and tuned upwards appropriately, honestly.
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>>574389091
You go celestial nyx instead because if youre doing the immortal looping youre always going to be at 1 health anyway, plus you want to spam the jammed skill and the warparth gauge thing that consumes hp.
Having ventus also helps so other people dont try to heal you and break your nyx.
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Hello
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why isn't Rolan playable
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>>574387709
dps tests are funny because someone always thinks you'll be able to cleanly do your entire rotation with 100% uptime and not need to adapt to the boss at all. I blame FF14 and their decision to make bosses stand still every 2 minutes
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>>574389778
he is
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I STILL DONT HAVE STOUT HEAR SUMMON
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The highest DPS you will do is for the character you spend the most time and resources on. Unless it's Captain
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ok I've been hitting my head against a wall the past few hours playing Eustance
I can confidently say that during link time, he is by far the best dps in the entire game with his perfectionist trait
no character is even close to the damage he can dish out during it
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This Seofon got downed 8 times in the first 3 minutes of luci fight.
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>>574389814
This and it doesn't help that some people think these 60 second damage tests are the end all be all for character viability.
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>>574385735
>Insight
Sorry I'm retarded, I meant Essence, the one that lowers your charge attack time.
Was trying another character while typing this.
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Any lobbiers around?
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>>574389382
I see. Thanks for the help. It's been awhile since I've played him. Used to play him a lot before Lucifer came out on base Relink.
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I've finally been going through my inventory to see whats in here and I just learned I have ambrosia. I feel retarded. Is there any reason not to use these things? I'm at proud difficulty.
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>>574390075
Nah, crux fraux is the queen of link time
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>>574390117
HOST IT
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>>574390270
Wait until you unlock Mastery levels, those consume buttloads of MSP
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>>574390117
not for cogsledders
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>>574390426
What I mean is there a reason to hoard my ambrosia or can I just pop it all and spend the msp as I see fit?
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>>574390080
Ok...?
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>>574390270
use them
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>>574390513
There is a cap to the MSP you can hang onto but I think they raised it by a few 0's
So its probably fine to use
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>>574390117
I feel like I can't join these lobbies because I main Fed... Didn't even know she'd be busted because I played her from the start of ER with the 5 bux unlock
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>>574388850
there's always a bear floor hugging for half the fight eating 80% of the critical bar just so they can get mvp
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Finshed the story. Dubs decide my main for online.
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>>574386717
it's funny when the game asks me if I really want to recycle this very very rare item, I've recycled some 3000 centrums already, it's common rocks in ER
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>>574390270
Yeah just use them you'll get way more than you need for that point in the game
was enough for me from proud to MR30
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>>574390585
>>574390638
Thanks anons.
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Heh good luck seeing what the boss is about to do behind 6 giant glowing arms
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>>574390513
Nah just eat them
I think Sandalphone has some stuff that you need just a few of them for, but that's it
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>>574390270
by the time you get to the end of the game every character needs like 5 million mastery points for 50+5 and sliming gives... not that much
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>>574389814
XIV has encouraged a lot of terrible habits, and there has been a lot of devs trying to imitate some fo their shit which only reinforce it.
It's been a fucking plague as a whole.
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>>574383883
cock, monkey, dog, dog, tigers (except maybe not super cidala) uma, won't get in the game because fukuhomo doesn't want to offend twitter trannies yelling about their age/appearance
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>>574390718
Jo mama
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>>574383507
ferry is like 12 my man
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>>574388850
pre infinity farming chaos++ the world and bubs was rough. you know deep down you are trying your best to not jump ship when za world's first form took ages to kill
now i'm strong enough to salvage a room as bad as 3 tweyens in chaos++ (this happened once) as long as nobody walks on fours 24/7
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>>574391061
a lot of ER fights really love that stupid fucking circle arena
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>>574390081
>guys look this character can do 800 baha blastillion dps in 60 seconds on a target dummy
>eats pavement off the first attack in an infinity fight
dps tests are useless, if the boss dies who cares
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>>574391126
12 year old granny ghost
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>>574390401
>>574390642
No one actually cares if you play fediel

LU57 7TNP C7V5 J9Q1
Infinite bubs or other bosses if you guys want
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I just repeated a quest with randoms and and at the end all chests were looted instantly and we just went into the post game screen. How do I make this happen again?
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>>574391126
nta but ferry gets a pass cause she doesn't really look 13 and is actually old
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>>574391307
I love bampi
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>>574391350
That happens on repeat runs of a quest
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>>574391126
Out of 10!
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>>574388850
Seems there's been a couple walls here and there but overall it's been fine.
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>>574391307
>No one actually cares if you play fediel
I do
I care
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>>574391393
Is that new or did I just forget it's a thing?
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Whats the best mission for afking fortitude crystals?
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>>574391307
Vampy is Core
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I'm not trying to take away the soft power of 12 year old thots but lets be completely honest here this is a grown fucking woman in a way preteens cannot be
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>>574388850
not too bad
the only problems were worldo and luci chaos++ cause of disconnects
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>>574391504
She's been dead for like half a century no?
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>>574391307
Would join but I'm trying to replay Sieg again and after all this time of not touching him I'm just gonna fuck things up.
Speaking of, what fights do you think is a good one to get back into a character?
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>>574391307
These lobbies never appear for me
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>>574388850
Id/furycane/bubs was balls on day one.
Not sure I've failed anything else yet
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>>574391672
Rotate between dragons and bubs.
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what the fuck is up with randoms today i can't get a single clear
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>>574391307
full already?!
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>>574391858
Weekend in the only country that matters
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>>574392067
Uganda?
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>>574391858
why don't you make a lobby
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>>574392442
Antarctica
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>>574391389
>>574391502
True!!!
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>>574383883
Sheep and Pig are best, but Sheep's already in Versus so I guess I'll have to accept Dog and Pig.
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So there's no real need to grind Infinity when I can just AFK Chaos++ Lucy right!
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>chapter 8 black crab had to have its cage broken while in the tayu'itar
I'll KILL YOU FKHR I'LL KILL YOU
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>>574392642
>spear
Nyo
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>>574392005
I forgot to put a password so I'm actually not sure if everyone in is from the thread kek
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>>574372193
On a S-D tier list, she'd be a "B". That's fine and she's pretty easy mode for infinity honestly even w/ her Terminus.
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do the town's sparkley ground drops only refresh once a day or something?
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>gotten 17 perfect character sigils
>none of them were for charlotta

game pls
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>>574391496
I don't remember either
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>>574392978
>>574391496
new with the ER patch
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If leaky bikki comes to relink I will
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>>574392742
Vikky's also already in Versus and she's overshilled to hell and Relink is already human'd out and she's way too mickey, literally.
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>Every lobby is a variation of same 8 characters because very few want to play males and main cast is boring.
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>>574391858
after 2 days of infinity pubs conclude that doing infi pubs is waste of time and sanity at least until 2 weeks later, i rather just go back to msp mines if no lobby kek
game should prevent people from entering any infi fights with shit like non maxed defender weps
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few characters deserve to be in relink less than vikala
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>>574392778
that might explain why it filled in seconds
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>>574393128
*more
>>574393050
A second zodiac isn't likely considering their stance on it anyway. Dog/Dragon or maybe tigers would be the bet.
Take Dog/Razia if you need another draph for some reason.
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>I can't even do 500m on dummies
neechan deserves buffs
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what kind of name for an attack is gopherwood arc
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>can't AFK farm because I only focused on Melee characters instead of being a ranged faggot

God, this fucking sucks. My Bea main won't fucking attack in Bubs or Faa fights because they're not in range.
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You know, skill that gain the cover properties may not have been such a good idea when there's a Bea on your team.
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>>574393586
why is she like that?
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Best place to farm this?
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The best way to endear people to your character is to force her down their throat in the middle of the expansion
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>>574393727
One of the base chaos horde/survival/defence missions.
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>>574392861
>finally rolled her sigil
>got 8 perfect character sigils alongside it

jeezus
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>>574393420
A single zodiac isn't likely considering their stance, we're all just wishing for them. And quit the insistent shilling, you have no right to deny anyone, and your attitude just makes Rat look worse.
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>>574393485
At least your spec is somewhat fun to play
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>infinity the world players griefing the fight by slowing/petrifying him during quickening almost every other fucking time which breaks the whole mechanic even if you perfect guard it
>everyone but me hugging the floor constantly throughout the fight until the host ragequits
what did i do to deserve this
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>>574383883
anon they said that they are not adding the zodiacs
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I can't reroll Io's warpath+ because it has Low Profile and It's just pointless to roll for anything else since its good enough
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>>574393738
Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios
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>Zeta counter master trait
>Floor simulator
... am I bad at this game?
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>>574393935
I honestly don't even know what mechanic that is
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>>574393894
<still correlating anon behaviour with whatever character they happen to post about
How have you not gone insane on this site by this point?
>>574393930
I thought the fourfold tree was pretty fun personally, but Id is the only melee I play so it might feel weird compared to other characters
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>>574394267
the line AOE.
you get instant link attack on perfect block
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>>574394267
perfect guarding quickening instantly stuns him (if hes not in stun cool down) and gives him a massive damage vulnerability debuff, if you actually bother doing it you can speedrun his first phase in less than a couple of minutes
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>>574394023
I really like this picture and post
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We're gonna get Zooey
But not how you think...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsrlmZsXu74
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>>574394327
holding a key while hoping the boss dosn't fuck off for the entire fight and doing 0 SBA gen gets boring very fast, at least GM is way more proactive and you actually use your entire kit instead of spamming one skill
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>>574393935
I'll be real with you man I'm beginning to doubt people read before jumping into the infinity fights. I had someone actively dispelling the blackflames during the versa fight.
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>>574394327
have a higher res cag butt
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We ARE getting post game content to warrant going for these 100% summons right? Or are most here done with everything and are moving on?
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>>574394470
My onion...
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>>574393738
>>574394118
Rule no.1 of Granblue: do not ever care about the story
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>>574394742
Theyre making me transcend her shit bro
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Soon...
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>>574394703
no one knows yet, people keep playing for the enjoyment of the game and the chase or they quit after they finish their build for one character usually
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idk anything about gbf lore is there a reason why Gran is so strong isn't he just like a guy
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>>574394763
It's just defender stage 1, it's basically free.
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Are the guard/payback skills good?
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>>574394023
low profile is bis on Io, helps your teammates too
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>>574394267
i want to know what the expection from devs is for these WoW-ass boss designs.
do they want the players to know the boss mechanics? clearly not, based on the lack of information in-game.
but then the fights are tuned as though you know the mechanics like the back of your hand.

so the only plausible explanation is that devs expect datamined boss mechanics to be distributed and known in public, which is against TOS.
a truly insane expectation.
WoW and its consequences has been disastrous for all action RPGs. at least in that game you can mose-over the debuffs to at least gleam wtf is going on.
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>>574394703
>>574394803
Didn't they practically rebuild the game from the ground up to accommodate ER? I can't imagine that they would drop the game now.
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>>574394769
>giving my wife a giant disgusting nigger baboon ass
delete this
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>>574394602
a cute one in return
>>574394875
if you guard frequently, sure.
most just dodge though
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>>574394703
100% summons are already only like a 2% damage increase. They can't retroactively make them stronger.
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>>574394927
never heard that
>>574394923
it says in the mission goals to perfect guard quickening though. same with bubs orbs.
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why did they add characters like vane over characters like vira
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>>574394703
wait until the livestream next month
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>>574395082
You got fraux.
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>>574395082
male quota
but instead of adding cool males they add FAGGOTS...
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>>574394805
To a point, there isn't. Eventually, interdimensional Ultra Instinct.
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Well that seems like a good first time drop.
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>best looking girl in the game is actually a man on the inside
why
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>>574395031
They said this during the reveal showcase.
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>>574395243
it's hotter that way
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>>574395316
god i wish that were me
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>>574395279
I thought that was just about the world fight?
They said something about wanting to have it in base game, but they had to rework some systems related to it and gave up.
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>>574395243
Just how things be.
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>>574394923
i mean the lack of in game explanation is fine, i'd rather wipe and prog then have some baby ass handholding tutorial that pauses the game for everyone to explain the mechanics
they expect you to learn through trial and error
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>>574395243
that a problem?
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>>574394470
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>>574395238
EXPLODE
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>>574394431
Yeah but what is quickening
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rolling for optimal overmasteries seems like such a fucking scam bros
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Healing cap up affects potions, drain and regen right?
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>>574395238
WHERE NIGGER
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>singlehandedly ruins her entire playstyle
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>>574395565
yes, no, no.
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reminder
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>>574395558
Just roll for +20 stun power and call it a day
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>>574395596
A quest where you fight Vrazarek Firewyrm.
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>>574395558
Before ER it mattered a lot more. Now you just want the +20 stun power which is the biggest relative increase. Everything else is completely negligible.
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>>574395647
are the other options less braindead?
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>>574395492
you see a giant title in the middle of your screen that says quickening
after that, depending on the variant, he puts a single or multiple bar aoe bars in front of him, amount of bars and windup time depend on the variant
once you see the bright flash and loud sound cue, perfect guard it a split second after
if your dumbass teammates didn't do anything to fuck over the execution, you'll stun him, and inflict a huge defence debuff on him
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>>574395685
and he's one of the least played characters this patch
will be interesting if they go over the stats in the next month's stream
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>>574395685
if the guys are the most popular, does that mean this game is primarily for women?
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>>574395685
My wife Beatrix is so perfect...
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>>574395764
Her stance mastery only needs her to stance switch once every 4 combos or she loses her buffs. The other masteries just sit in in blue stance and never ever change.
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>>574395647
Nah I thought it was a good change. I still use both stances, but now I can at least spam the ranged blue stance swap blade beam to build butterflies because she really fucking needs it with how mobile all the bosses are now
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which character just does the most DAMAGE as a borrowed bot? in my experience it's id
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>>574395647
It's literally essential to play her in Infinity. You need the projectile from the freeflutter shift to restore butterflies when they run away and you need to stay in dawnfly for the superior range when they're moving around in a smaller area.

>>574395764
It's stage 1, non-optional. Insight later gives you buffs for swapping stances though, so you need to count finishers to mix them up. You also need dawnfly in essence as a discount gap closer when you're out of butterflies.
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>see cag
>get boner
>see fediel
>flaccid
am i gay
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>>574396270
If you have to ask, you already know.
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>>574396270
nah fediel's gross
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>>574396230
>non optional
Just put two points in that tree...?
Io does the same
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>Fediel faggot decide "nah, I won't SBA"
>Boss enter in his fuckass long as shit annoying phase where you just can't deal any damage and have to jump around
Just what is it with these fucking people
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>>574396086
Probably a second Eustace but it needs to be built as competent as your own party member
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>>574396270
I've got good news for you
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I can't believe I'm saying this but after bouncing off all the ranged characters and living the melee life, Io is actually kinda comfy fun.
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>>574396270
yes
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>>574396367
Read the rest of the post
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>>574396452
Which had nothing that disproves it being optional.
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maybe it's time to change siegfried's mastery tree, or maybe he just sucks at faa with his perfect striker
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>>574396364
Nah Fediel's actually a cute
All of her animations are adorable
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here is narmaya's best build
one of the best tanks and damage dealers right now
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>>574396545
Yes it does.
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Am i just shit or does Seite not do enough damage
Insight feels the most consistent for me and Tag team is dogshit
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>>574395773
I've actually never seen that text because I'm busy looking at the floor to dodge his shit
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>>574396862
Than look at the red squares and stand in them.
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Here's a tough question, what's more value? 10% DMG cut or -15% DMG from steel nerves
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>>574396995
...
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>>574396995
How much of either do you have?
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Who should I play if I want someone a bit more complicated? I've been maining Maglielle and Fraux for expansion, and in the past I played Captain, Io, Ferry, and Eugen. I really enjoy all of them but who is there that's more complicated?
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>>574396657
got one of those for cag?
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>>574396657
Are you sure she wants double nimble onslaught and no uplift?
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>>574397210
Sieg/Yoda
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I'm black. Who do I main in this game?
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>>574397292
Aren't Cag's caps really easy to hit?
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>>574397338
fediel
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>>574396643
>the counter dance
>her normal and especially her cold idle animation
>the stomps
>her reactions when she gets hit by something
she really is absurdly cute
they managed to make the cutest and hottest woman imaginable also extremely wise and retarded at the same time
she's just the best
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>>574396385
From my last 8 runs, Fed and Fraux seem to be pretty even with Eustace too at least in Chaos++ Luci
Though he's the one I have that's on Full Auto, he fights pretty much at 100% efficiency
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>>574397338
charlotta or maglielle
the blacks love their potatoes
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>>574397210
perfectionist Eustace, manage the style stack, Flamek Unleashed, by not getting hit while refreshing it with skills and time attacks. Unloading 4 super full mags back to back is satisfying
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>>574395685
Feels good to be a Siegfried Chad.
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>>574397432
Based dragon enjoyer they did such a good job with her
The metafag haters gonna hate
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>>574397736
It's unfortunate that it makes his stamina on reload sigil worth less than the other specs.
As good as it feels to magdump someone, I still like getting rewarded for hitting the skill check, however easy it may be.
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>>574394805
powered with neechan love
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>>574397449
Is your party maxed out or at least on equal footing?
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>>574396657
Alright feeling kinda dumb here but from what I'm getting all the sources of damage reduction stack multiplicative with each other? Why is stout heart and steel nerves not bundled together? I thought stronghold is a def buff why is it not with the other def buffs? I'm assuming "master traits damage reduction" is the def +6% per def or support sigil nodes.
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It's just a pub lobby but there's space right now if anyone wants to do Belzeebub Infinity farming

DGM5 ASVA YWB5 VS4M
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GGs thanks guys
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>>574396657
ok i'm a NARA main now. Also downloading some of her mods
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>>574396657
>supp 10 on stone
going from 100% chance at +20% dmg to 94% chance is like losing 40% dmg cap worth of dmg
but nevermind that, this mook only has 1 supp trait in his build so his supp level is 16+10 meaning he loses like 6.3% dmg from that
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>>574395685
women voted here and yet they don't play this game it's hilarious
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>>574394805
His dad is supposedly very stronk guy he went to fight bahamut alone
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>>574398075
Potato powered party. Getting chased down by an aoe shield field at all times sure was something. ggs
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>>574391307
GGs bros, maybe Bubz will drop the Spartan Echo next time
...or we can keep getting Cat with Improved Guard Lv. 11 and Heal Cap up. That's fine too.
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>>574397890
All essentially maxed out
50+5 all masteries
More or less optimized sigils with 2+ basic sigils etc.
All damage cap and stun boosts from weapons
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Im getting really spoiled by flight over fight i cant help myself
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>>574398279
it's not bad on Fediel and Eustace
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>>574396657
>gigatank build
>narm is super easy to play in dlc apparently
>bajillon mods on top of that compared to anyone else
i've found my new main
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>>574395685
>#8 Lucio
>#9 Lucifer
>#10 Lucilius
kek
Never forget they all have the same VA and the event was him talking to himself for 15 minutes
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>>574398236
Alright thanks, I'll try out Fraux. She might perform better than Sieg.
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>>574398223
SHIRLEY he will drop another one with attack dmg cap
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Is there any cosmetic mods for this game of quality? The extreme lack of visual customization has always confused me. If there is show me one you like.
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>>574398613
Look at his smug ass face
He knows we'll be stuck in the Bubz mines forever, and he's reveling in it.
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>>574398649
I imagine the female characters with big boobys are naked in my mind
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For ER progression is Stunner a decent choice? It being based on link time doesn't seem too hard to conditionally get. Defender seems the easiest but extra stun feels like it'd be good, executioner seems bad since itll reset on you every time the boss runs around
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>>574398649
>lack of visual customization
they did state they'll be putting in skins sooner than later, they might reveal them during next month's stream
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the cosmetic mods that DO exist aren't bannable, right? kinda want hoody-less frawks and bouncy fediel
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>>574397308
The thing about uplift is that it's multiplicative with her shitty warpath gauge reduction not additive
So even at level 45 uplift that gives +30% SBA, you're actually at 0.7*1.3 = 0.91% SBA regen
Nimble onslaught on the other hand always gives the flat amount of SBA described, so you get 5% each perfect dodge, and it's kind of stupid easy to perfect dodge in a puddle with Stout Heart
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>>574398828
Tor progression defender. Conditional cap up is shit unless you can guarantee the condition
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>>574398649
god i can't wait for Rosetta skins
the way you can see her panties when she does her SBA makes my dick so hard
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>>574398828
Stunner felt like the worst choice because until you get that link time, which is a good majority of the fight, you dont get any of the dmg cap. meanwhile the other weapons already start with it
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>>574398571
Oh but keep in mind I'm using Keep your Enemies Closer on Eustace
I don't know if swapping to Perfectionist will shoot up his damage since I haven't tested it. I'm using him as a Full Auto AI and not an actual AI teammate
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>>574399012
the wording implies you get a percentage as link progresses, so like at 25% you'd get 1/5, etc, just spamming all blue potions as you come in gets you fairly close to 1 stack and if you arent generating even 50% link before you win then it frankly didnt matter what weapon you used
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It's empty now. Where the niggas at
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Microkini Io, Banana Hammock Doza, Bikini Armor Beatrix.
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what the fuck is that faasan infinity fight

all the others were piss easy and then pubs jobbed to him for like 15 runs before i gave up

it seems like he has a ton more hp than the rest and far more lethal mechanics
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>>574399216
Don't worry big dog I gotchu
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Why does no one play yoda? I like him so far he's fun. I wish using his parry was more worthwhile instead of just a way to stack supp damage compared to the god like team buff of mirror. But he's still fun.
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>Sieg's ATK/DEF buff spell is not a post-cap damage up despite having the same "ATK +x%" wording as masteries
fucking come on man
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>>574397932
need one more
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>>574399427
Old man. I'm not sure either desu. He's pretty easy to pick up and play but has a good skill ceiling as well. Plus a decent variety of skills.
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>>574371004
You can just reload after it showed you the difference if you have autosave turn on
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[Evil Woman Growling.]
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the proud++ black dragon wiped my ai team because my cag didn't ougi at 100%
WTF causes this
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Can bell sandalphon take off war elemental?
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>Clear everything up through all of Infinity with Beato
>Get her Terminus Weapon maxed out w/ a good Sigil set up

Now what
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>>574399427
I wish there were more yodas out there, I always like when there's one on the team
Mirror image makes the fights so much easier for Zeta, you can ignore a lot of attacks that would normally disrupt my combo
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>>574399427
he looks stupid because he's a potato
female potatoes get a pass from Certain Individuals but there is just no market for male potatoes
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>>574399332
>it seems like he has a ton more hp than the rest and far more lethal mechanics
Because Faa was the final fight of the last base game, made to be deliberately very challenging. Then they tuned all his moves up because obviously the fight needs to be even harder than the original. And the result is a visual clusterfuck with mechanics most returning players forgot or never knew to begin with. And then they get shit on
Og faa was already harder than any of the new fights
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>>574399853
Everyone loves him yet no one wants to play him...
I'll learn once I'm done with eustace.
My main three all crutch on MI
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>>574381886
Alright I think I've mitigated the issue sorta. Swapped her over to magic chain and removed flowery seven so her only charging move is stargaze. Still taking hits from her standing to charge but much less and crucially no longer enough to kill me.
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Just boughted it.
The adult women make me horny.
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>>574399853
I like Yoda and do play him but he's normally like an occasional off pick sometimes. I'll have to build him up a little and play him more. He is a lot of fun.
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>>574399993
Oh. Were you using conc tree?
The dot was getting her killed then. AI Io can't self heal with pots
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>>574399427
I am playing him...
He's got a lot of things that just feel not fleshed out and all his mastery perks are kinda meme-y but it's fun
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>>574399871
they gave him way too much hp, the others weren't too bad. either that or pubs were just too intimidated to attack him because they knew they could eat shit at any moment. felt like a complete slog trying to get his hp down and i also had a few pubs fail the ball add phase dps check
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>>574399432
no way lmao
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>>574400171
luci has one of the lowest health pools in the infinity fights
what is happening is that the pubbies are too scared to attack.
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>>574400071
Adult woman fetish...
>>574400171
Could be, but he's also just offscreen doing phases for half the fight. Plus half the things he does seal sba or skills or debuffs atk. And when you fail the wrong mechanic he gets a big ass def buff
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>>574399861
>he looks stupid because he's a potato

Shut up bitch.
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>>574400428
you don't have to like it but you know that's why he's not popularly played which is the question you asked
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>>574400409
he gets regen too. i don't know how big it is, i saw a bunch of 9s but i can't tell if it's 999k or 9mil
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>>574400103
Nah I was on F7 since that was what I was using when I was playing her. Her SBA generation took a hit after the switch over to just being on par with the rest of the team but I'm no longer dying for substituting for her so thats still a win in my book.
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Anyone else having connection issues?
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>>574400428
He's right
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>>574399432
Manigance? It raises cap for me, works on my machine.
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human yodarha would be the coolest dude in the game
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>>574401196
Say no more
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>>574399432
pretty sure all def debuffs and atk buffs aren't doing anything in real fights
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>>574401196
He's up there.
They should have just been elves desu.
Everyone likes elves
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>>574401293
>>574401348
>instead of getting THIS, we got...
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>>574401348
harvins are literally halflings, erunes are elves
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>>574400171
that's just rookie mistake during DLC luci.
Here's some facts about DLC luci
1:full burst to deal with paradise lost
he takes extremely reduced damage during paradise lost and infinity version is shitting out lightning, so most shitters do even less damage.
Unlike Zero Luci, he does not reset his stun bar when using paradise lost. You should be clearing paradise lost with link time instead every time.
2:your build is barely reaching your cap
He has a defense up buff, so what happens is that you actually do way less damage when he has it up now.
3:regen
infinity luci heals 10 million with his regen, so the fight is more of a rush.
All those combined end in a experience where shitters are desperately using full burst to deal with paradise lost, can't link time ever because they are bad and are barely ever hitting luci, all the while luci is regenerating health.
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Soon
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>>574401445
And no one likes halflings either.
Erunes are kemomimi.
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>>574401445
So that's why I'm Erune sexual...
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>>574401445
>erunes are elves
No, this is an elf
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How do I build and play this Captain dude? Or is it not worth it since I mostly play with AI
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Conflux was WAY shorter than I thought it would be, I thought level 5 was like the end of the tutorial lmao
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I'll just say it.
It should have been Galleon as either the six dragon rep or a second six dragon rep.
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It should have been the character that *I* want to have sex with. I'm the King of Granblue. The devs are wrong.
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>>574401837
galleon and wilnas are already in versus rising, it should've been wam
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>>574369165
>haven't played since forever
>never got a full BIS character build
>single Gamma sigil
I got galanza to level 90 and maxed his terminus (ascension still level 2 tho), should I build him a bit more or just jump straight into the dlc? I don't want to farm lucilius or behemoth for some time at least
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is just me or Eustace's awakening and warpath are garbage? except for the -20% charge time one
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Are dispels really important for the endgame fights? Want to make sure my CPU setup has enough
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>>574402079
no one is using luci sigils anywhere in the dlc, just go straight to the dlc
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>>574401923
>>574402042
What? We got who we wanted.
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>>574401445
Granblue's elves (levleath) are blue
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>>574402125
it can save some unorganized Infinity luci runs but no, just like in the base, is not that useful
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>>574402219
MORE YOU FOOL, I WANT FOUR CAKES
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>buffed to retard nigger levels in versus
>buffed to retard nigger levels in endless ragnarok
why not just rename the franchise to siegfried fantasy at this point
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>>574402219
there is only one single character I want in the game more than fediel
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>>574402485
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>>574402485
He was buffed?
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>>574401923
Dwagon Neet doko?
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>>574399861
>he looks stupid because he's a potato
I don't understand. That's just how gnomes are.
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>>574402485
>>574402587
Perci is even more retarded.
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>>574402587
The same way everyone was buffed I'm assuming?
He was nerfed by the same stuff everyone else was nerfed with though.
Him and Io were hit (accidentally?) harder than others depending on their tree choice
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>>574402485
Exactly how is he broken to retard nigger levels in Relink?
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>boss jumps away the moment I'm about to Combo Finisher but after I press the button so Bea doesn't instantly jump to it
>once I have all 3 clocks the boss now jumps away the moment I Power Finisher
>clock runs out and I look like retard who can't get gold clock
Fuck my chungus life
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>Auto-Tweyen recoils herself back to the point she wont auto attack slimes
Fucking amazing endgame
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I wish every single fight had an endgame version that was relevant for farming so that the endgame was more varied
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ADULT WOMEN
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>Luci delaying his ultra fuck you swords like a fromsoft boss
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>>574402790
She isn't called "the worst afk character in relink endless ragnarok" for no reason
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>>574402901
tits too big
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>>574402925
I dont have a Eustace so I dunno what do
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>>574387709
Vane loses out on 25% damage if he's not at max Booming Beatdown.
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>>574402901
tits just right
I luv dwagon
she is so beautiful
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When are they adding Shalem to the game so she can trash talk Beelzebub?
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>>574403020
If you're already past chaos++ you could afk the dark skelly mission with other characters instead, you get 40k msp + a bunch from summons you recycle
And you also have a chance to get stout heart behemoth while at it
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>>574403246
When you give FKHR his due.
Get under the desk anon.
Do it now.
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>>574403020
Collector's Edition
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>>574401653
>>574402227
>エルフエルネ
>ドワフドラフ
>ハーフリンハルヴィン
The theming seems rather obvious.
Also, Lily is a Crystalian.
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>>574403303
You remember the name of the quest?
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Who gives the best hugs?
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>>574403383
エリン aren't the elf equivalent in Tera, and erunes are closer to that in appearance.
Crystalians are elves
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>>574402119
It's just you, it's one of the better character sigils in the game, all of them are really good.
Warpath is free ammo on perfect reloading which isn't bad at all, awakening has both quick charge and more dmg cap up on his shots so why wouldn't you take it.
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>>574402485
>Medium
AHAHAHAHAAHHAAH
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>>574403686
The myths are real
I think
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>>574403740
This isn't Tera, dude.
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>>574403803
dirt is the most oppressed element
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Erunes always struck me as the settings elves
>tall
>pretty
>nature n shiet
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>>574403246
When
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>>574402485
More like Midfried
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>>574403383
Ackshully its エルーン and ハーヴィン
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Infinity lobby:

EXCU NRL1 AEV5 7B4X

PW: flip
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ill take it but why 13 man...
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>>574403860
So why do you think erunes are the elf equivalent then?
They all start with エリ
Two of them are animal based (hint:it's not elf)
One of them is from the era of video game this company was based around (hint:it's not elf)
One of them has many approximates in the game already (hint: it IS elf this time)
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>>574397932
Need one more for the lobby boys

DGM5 ASVA YWB5 VS4M
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How is Eustace? I've played him a little bit but he seems kind of awkward to use, and right now it feels like I'm shooting pellets against anything around my level
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>>574401685
Arts IV and Skill spam. The captain is flexible with his skills but the general gameplan stays the same, do combos, only hit the quick power raise ++ and pop all your skills at arts level 4. Usual combo is XXXXY gets you to arts level 3 and sets up for the quickened power raise++ to hit level 4. The XYXXY variant is if you need to gap close and XYY is your quick version. Skills depend on the person but the safe bet is to start with the 3 damage skills OD surge, Reginleiv, and Decimate and then play around with the free slot or swap one of them out for another utility skill. Standard sigil builds as the rest of the cast, cascade shoots up in priority if you can fit it in and of his personal sigils Fearless spirit is maybe the only one you'd consider not including.

As for Master styles, I only have experience with Crux Captain so I can't speak for the other two. My usual loadout takes clarity in the 4th slot and swaps in substitute in place of OD surge and with the normal sigil setup you can upkeep substitute for the whole fight. I also play mostly with the AI and despite their usual reputation the AI can fuel crux/substitute captain very well. The caveat here is the AI needs to have stout heart, so if you have a stout heart or enough stout heart sigils to pass around thats great. Otherwise the AI will avoid enough hits that you might be still at charisma 3-4 by the end of the fight. That said crux captain is a moron in the AI's hands do not give your AI crux captain he will underperform or worse hug the floor
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So where the fuck is Vira
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>>574404105
>So why do you think erunes are the elf equivalent then?
because of >>574403383 and >>574403975, retard
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>>574404251
retard
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>bubz can use the balls back to back and grab you again while you're still pancaked on the floor from the last grab
why is this allowed

what do you want me to do
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>>574403975
>nature
opinion discarded
if tall and pretty is your qualifier than humans are the elves of granblue
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if it needs a pw its rage

Infinity gauntlet lobby
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>>574404306
U rike?
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>>574404435
erunes are taller and prettier
all the men are pretty
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>>574404131
If you can master his special you become god
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>>574404245
imai is pretty much retired that's why they've been pumping out marishill content to replace their token psycho turbo lesbo which also is less inclined to want dick cause that's what happened to vira
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>>574404539
also because mari's va is shillclub
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>>574404131
endgame eustace is one of the hardest hitting characters (not counting fediel because shes overtuned) but he is really hard to master.
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>>574404245
She is busy raising our children
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>>574404516
what do you mean, his special?
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>>574404494
>tall
just stop
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>>574404653

special dodge*
sorry
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Just finished the final Inifinity quest. Absolutely amazing, what a fantastic experience from start to finish. Super rare for me to get this invested in a game.

Here's my build now that I've got my Terminus weapon maxed out. Outside of Stun Power being a little lower than I'd like, is anything missing?
Summons still aren't even close to being optimized, but they're fine for now.
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>>574404457
3/4 in this lobby one more for infinity gauntlet
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>>574404673
look at all those pretty boys
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Holy fuck proto bahamut has a lot of life. I have 5 ultimate memory. Which bahamut is it better to kill for the other 5 so I can make my first terminus weapon?
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I hate Red Orb
I can't see it among all the visual vomit and red effects/arena/etc
And I swear guarding takes longer to come out than dodging
At least Za Warudo only encourages you to flash guard his stuff, instead of forcing you to.
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>>574404678
Holy shit a lancelot player, nice. What master style did you end up going for?
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>>574401450
>That feel when there's a guy that's at 40% SBA when everyone else is at 90-100% just before the first paradise lost with his link bar 4/5 full
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Are there any cheats for relink yet? I'm tired of fighting ennugi or sack head and never getting any behemoth summons.
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>>574404602
the va can have other roles though, but she's specifically this one cunt muncher
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>>574404828
Yes but I haven't checked for Summon editing. Probably is. I know there is for sigils.
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I think the Yodarha on our team in my first clear of the final fight tricked me into thinking it was an easy fight. This shit is hard. I know I have the damage and the stun on my Charlotta, but I don't know about my teammates. It's hard to balance when to use the SBA, because lots of players want to use it on the boss instead of the adds, but they don't have enough damage or stun to kill the adds.
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>>574403815
Holy shit you're right, and I got the Stout Heart Behemoth
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>>574403975
Once upon a time, but much like draphs largely being miners and engineers, that's deprecated lore. Harvins still get to be 90% merchants and wizards though.
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>>574405145
why is yoda a crazy samurai master anyway?
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>>574404795
He's really fun, I'm surprised I almost never see anyone else use him. I thought Dragon Knights were pretty popular.

I'm Avalanche-maxxing. It's a really neat playstyle, forces you to be super aggressive and lets you spam Southern Cross for incredibly high damage if you can keep it up long enough.
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If erunes are elves, where are their bows?
>seven distinct human archers
>three erune archers, all part of the same family
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>>574405115
Nice
You can also try to afk chaos++ luci for his summon with berserker echo and trade his flowers for ambrosia
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>>574404782
when he starts mixing his balls i don't fucking know anymore what should i do
anytime a good looking run becomes bubs wwe showcase thats the sign i need to leave the room asap because suddenly not enough dps anymore to win before time out
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Does anyone know if the fire wyrm summon drops from the Chaos+ difficulty or do I have to do the Chaos++ version?

I'm trying to farm a Stout Heart summon, probably from the fire wyrm. I've read comments saying it dropped from the 4-dragon fight. But I haven't unlocked Chaos++ yet.
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Starting to think only luci is worth farming in chaos++
Tried bubs but his summon never seems to drop, same with the world, in like 20 runs I got 1 Rolan
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Is Katalina the only one with two different SBA animations?
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>>574405228
He's just built different.
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where do you get albacore summon?
is there bonito summon?
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>>574405735
Sandal has Ain Soph Aur and Paradise Lost
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What master trait style are you guys running on Kat?
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>>574405481
If you can reliably do this why would you ever manually farm this fight? that's crazy
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>>574406015
You wouldn't, afk farming him is a post chaos++ activity anyways
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I'm interested in doing the Seofon infinite link time thing. How can I accomplish that as a totally new-to-him player? I'm looking at his moveset and shit looks hella confusing. I understand that you build two gauges to DPS and try to cash them both out at the same time.
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>playing in conflux
>see my Eugen shooting a skeleton that has like no hp a bunch of times
What the fuck
Does my Eugen do no damage?
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>>574394805
I know it's an old post now but it's what loaded when I loaded the thread loaded so I'll tell you.

Danchud is A "singularity" in GBF. What this means exactly isn't fully totally explained, but a common interpretation seems to be "an existence that exists in all timelines equally."
Functionally, this means that no matter what happens to the timeline, Danchud is the "same" person, always.
This was crucial for the "and you" event, where Orologia fucked constantly with the timeline to give Danchud the best possible timeline. Each time logia reseted the timeline because danchud kept getting killed by their own naivete, which ended up forcing Orologia to give danchud the "timeline where he is the strongest" to be able to survive his naivete.
Please say THANK YOU to your momdad Orologia even if you're not aware of why.

Bubz is another Singularity btw.
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>>574406703
He seems bugged, when you take him to slimes he shoots at nothing for 5 seconds at a time before switching to the next target
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>>574405487
>anytime a good looking run becomes bubs wwe showcase thats the sign i need to leave the room asap
They don't call him the King of Jobbers for nothing...the ring is truly his domain.
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This game sure has a lot of spectacle. I'm not really vibing with danchou gameplay
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>>574407037
>this was a hint to his relink fight
kojima...
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>>574407085
You can replace him with whoever pikes your interest, you get enough cards to unlock everyone. Maybe avoid the DLC characters but I don't know if you can unlock those in the early game anyway
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>the bubz stone was 12 supp and crit rate
fuck you too bubz
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>>574401923
It's not fair, my favorite crew members are not suitable for action or fighting games
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>>574407189
explode faggot
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>>574406703
My Ai Eugen sometimes outdamages me so I think yours is just built wrong. He is one of the best ai members to have.
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Bros I need help, what's better for Maggie?
>Nimble Onslaught Lv. 16, Uplift Lv. 31
>Uplift Lv. 45
I have Nimble Defense on my Terminus in both cases.
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>>574407351
First one.
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>>574407351
nimble if you're good at dodging, maxed out invuln duration on dodge is really good and you get some skill cd
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>>574407326
Try a DPS meter
AI gets inflated honors from being dodge gods and spamming status effects
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>Substitute
>With beefed def and HP
>Still get vaporized when the local bea is on the receiving end of a soft breeze
What's the fucking point
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I DON'T CARE we failed another quest.
I DON'T CARE I'm longer on the floor than playing the game.
In this house we DON'T GUARD.
I DODGE ONLY and if I fail I DIE, simple as.
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>>574407000
Yeah his autoattacks must be bugged or something, gotta test him a little more
Might swap him out for Yoda
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>>574406915
this doesn't matter anymore, anyways since the timelines got unified at the end of MSQ part 1
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>>574407506
based ngl
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>>574407263
>a dancer
>not suitable for action or fighting
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>>574407503
kot...
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>>574407085
Danchou is honestly a fuck of a character for starting player, I do not know why they made danchou gameplay the way it is, so go ahead and replace him with someone else in your party, you're not forced to play as him outside of a couple occasions
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Has anyone tried playing Cagliostro's non-support styles? How are they? I like him but I don't want to be a healslut.
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>>574407189
I fucking love how many meme summons there are
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I hope we get some good content post launch. I don't really have anything to do anymore other than autistic min maxing, which isn't much of a difference percentage wise anyway.
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>>574407671
>>574407176
I invested most of my early MSP into him, but I'll see about changing that once I get another batch.
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>>574407189
I didn't even know slime could have other skill than the farm ones.
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How did you even get here?
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>>574407893
You'll get so much MSP it doesn't matter anyway, early game shouldn't give you much problems if you switch to someone else
You can practice with new characters when you unlock them so you can see if you like them before you invest anything anyway
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>>574408026
Siero does as she pleases.
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>>574408026
Siero is a true singularity. She exists everywhere, at all times, all at once.
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>>574407447
>>574407462
Thx bros, I'll stick with the first one then.
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any cag builds? what's her best one and how worse is the support trait compares to it?
Or better, where do you guys get specific character dummy score? i know not the same as a real quest but it serves as great reference
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>>574405723
The fuck am I looking at here? A mech for babies? Is that real?
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>expansion
>same enemies but with a purple aura
>like 2 new bosses so far at Chaos++
Guys this is legitimately disappointing and lazy and nobody is pointing it out. If I get to The World and he's the last new boss I'm going to feel genuinely ripped off.
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>>574408210
It's an april's fool skin for Catura of this thing.
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>>574408210
April fools stuff
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>>574408201
the best cag dps score i've seen is actually the meme debuff one. you can get to 10 stacks very fast with mehen because it has 3 charges and you get 1 every like 3 seconds. then you dodge cancel collapse over and over. the rhythm is a little hard to get used to. i'm not sure how mehen spamming stacks up in a real battle
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>>574407503
People are theorizing that substitute effects don't take into account your personal defense but actually base the damage on the person you're covering's defenses so getting blown up just sometimes happens
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>>574407671
they just don't like danchou and think that he should be a supporting character
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>>574408479
This can't be real
No fucking way
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>>574408459
>mehen has 3 charges
First I ever heard of this wtf
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Chaos ++ World, Cag was support lvl 50, everyone else lvl 30
I'm not sure if Song is main material but I'm happy not being at the bottom of the list considering I missed two crown strife shot
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>>574408540
if your personal defense was taken into account, why does this captain take damage even though she has 100% damage cut? you are supposed to be immune to damage at 100%

https://youtu.be/zEqy-QWus84?t=58
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>>574408306
more content is coming
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>>574405249
Dragon knights are reasonably popular but suffer the male debuff competing against the landslide most popular male sandalphon, game exclusive* Id, and danchou. Sieg is surging in popularity since he's pulling good numbers as an AI now, Perci is also seeing an upsurge in usage from his super burst build. Meanwhile Vane and lancelot have been quiet
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>>574408540
Stack that HP and pray brother, sometimes you also just need to know when to quit taking the hits and call it a day. Its gonna hurt your damage but less than hugging the floor will
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About damn time
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>>574409056
>45%
JK grats
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We finally got to the dlc but my brother wants to go back and farm base game lucilius for luci sigils
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All of the characters I built in base relink suck in ER I don't know what to do
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>>574409056
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>>574404457
ggs
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>>574409105
It might be fun to experience him with just Proud level gear
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>>574409056
Why do people even want Sout Heart
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>>574409105
did you told him they are useless as soon as you enter the DLC and chaos luci just drops them like nothing?
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>>574409080
If I didn't trash it already I would show the 100% cap up beelzebub I found.
He got trashed because he had improved guard.
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good work gauntlet gamers
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>>574409157
Some characters really don't like being interrupted and can afford taking hits so it's nice to have
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>>574409157
theres a bunch of shit that flinches you
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>>574409157
Its a nice QoL to not get interrupted plus 30% dmg cut + 15% from steel nerves. Stout heart doesn't have a + version so if you want to take it, having it on a summon lets you get another sigil effect.
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>>574409157
It's 25% reduced damage on top of being able to do your combos without being interrupted.
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>>574405735
I'd has dead weight and a godmight one
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>>574409189
gg was tons of stun in that party
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>>574409157
It also decreases damages of hits by 25%, although it hides that info from players and only displayed it via loading screens.
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Do any of the "harder" Chaos++ quests drop Spartan echo or War elemental?
I want to farm the summon and MSP at the same time but the non-infinity quests for Spartan / WE only give like 3k base MSP instead of 30k
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Maglielle Id femdom fanfiction where Maglielle plays up the pseudo incestuous nature of their relationship...
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>>574409343
Was surprised how that first hexa trial just got deleted from the game
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>>574409576
No, their relation is pure but it did awake a thing for harvins on him
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I FUCKING LOVE SIEGFRIED
KEEPING HIS CHAIN GOING THROUGH A BOSS COMBO THROUGH LUNGES AND DODGING AND STILL GETTING THE FINISHER MAKES ME ROCK SOLID
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For ai sieg which traits do I want to make him both a damage dealer and supportive?
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How the fuck do I play Io?
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>>574409874
Sit in the circle and hold triangle.
Piano your keyboard and hold triangle.
Hold triangle and hold triangle.
Blocking optional
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Beatobwos...this good?
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>>574409576
Cute potato
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>>574409576
Id is a harvinfucker but not with Maggie
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>>574409870
do not take uwe on ai sieg
get mirage (dmg cut)
get salvator (debuff immunity and drain to heal your ai)
nelah nah is good for stun
draconic release/manigance are good for dmg but the atk up only works when stuff isnt overdrived.

I think perfect striker sieg probably does a bit more damage but I haven't tested too thoroughly, he's very hit or miss depending on the fights desu
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>>574410084
What about fueled by pain?
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>>574409576
>pseudo incestuous nature of their relationship...
harvin fuckers have gone too far, Lyria is for Id, not harvins
>>574410000
That's like the best possible sigil you can get, grats bro
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Finally, a decent fight even if I couldn't see shit.
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>>574410000
thats pretty good
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I love ha
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>>574409489
I don't think any of the "orange" chaos++ drop any of the 5 summons that can have those traits sadly
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Can anyone post their Tank Beatrix setups?
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Add the sigil github to the op...
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Is Eustass a better AI party member than Oigen?
What skills/Mastery path does he want?
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>>574410023
Thats why she has to take the lead
>>574410175
lyria is for dancho, id's just her sidepiece til they leave zegagrande
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>>574410442
I'm not replacing mine until you prove your numbers are accurate with video. Everything you put there is wildly different from my own testing.
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>>574409489
Black dragon drops spartan
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>>574410506
>Thats why she has to take the lead
Maggie is one of dancho's many wives
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>>574409196
>>574409272
>>574409292
>>574409295
>>574409441
I don't know how you guys can constantly tank the damage of later quests even with the damage reduction, don't you run out of potions?.
specially against multi hits, knockback is actually beneficial in those cases as it can give you invul. while you can just die if you decide to tank attacks and if you are deciding to tank certain attacks or not may as well just play around not tanking attacks
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>>574410506
nah djeeta is for danchou
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>>574410559
How can danchou have many wives if he's not the strongest man in the game?
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>>574410545
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>numbers
First of all, get over yourself, you schizo.
Second of all, in what rentry does it currently show where each summon drops, you dumb shithead.
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>>574410667
>knockback is actually beneficial in those cases as it can give you invul.
From my experience it doesn't. Most of my deaths in chaos++ happened because I got 360 no scoped by the boss while ragdolling through the air.
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>>574410667
You dont try to take damage, you still play normally and if the worst happens its mitigated a lot
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>>574410704
based
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WAAAAAN BATAAAAAAANNNNNNN
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>>574410667
idk about other characters but golden clock beatrix regenerates like a quarter of her hp every tick from the regen and drain, i almost never use pots on her. i regularly just tank through the weaker hits on infinity bosses, although the really fuck-you moves like lucilius's roomwide double sword smash need to be respected and dodged still
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>>574410468
Shotgun for slimes, perfectionist for bosses. AI never whiffs the parry or dodge skills.
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>>574410546
is that from All consuming darkness? it only drops like 3k MSP base
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>>574410720
No, Djeeta, not Gran since she and Maggie are both whales
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>>574410367
Choco babu sex
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>>574410704
>>574410720
whale djeeta pegs newbabby gran, the other girls see this, then line up to be next.
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>>574411043
>>574411078
How is babby formed?
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>>574409489
Whichever mission drops Lilith, have to dig into this myself
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>>574410545
he's talking about this, you illiterate schizo
https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/summon_trait_chances/
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>>574411170
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>>574410545
kys
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>>574411203
nta but why did he say sigil if he meant to say summon
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>>574409874
Draw your gay little circle and stand in it. Fire, Freeze, Lightning, Gravity Well and charged X normals give 1 orb, gaining orbs in the gay little circle gives you MAX orbs. Get to max (3) orbs for strongest charged Y. Start charging your Y while in the circle, and/or preferably timed right after skill/charged X normal (also works outside circle) then unleash at full charge. If you have Warpath, there's a chance you can chain charge Y right after the other, if not you go back to the start. Rinse repeat orb gain and flush until target is dead, assuming they don't avoid all your Y's. Flowery Seven usage optional to preference (charges similarly to Y).

Also as a personal recommendation, invest in Low Profile and Improved Dodge + Nimble Onslaught to avoid drawing aggro away from melee characters and help you dodge cancel out of charge Y's end animation. Remember you can perfect block and dodge while charging, and Freeze doubles as a dodge with generous i-frames.
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>>574410667
Treat stout heart as a QoL I didn't get knocked out of my attack kind of thing, still play normally its just a backup so that weak attacks don't knock you out of your own offense. That said everyone minus infinity faa-san can be facetanked. I watched a sieg stand in goddamn infinity world's moving sphere attack thing for fun, he chased the damn thing and only lost 25% of his health and regen'd back to almost full by the time came back down
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BIGboobs update, BIGasses are now on the menu.
https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/639?tab=files&file_id=2211
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>>574410748
But that's only one specific scenario that has implications/conditions.
1.- You got hit in the air high enough
2.- The hit was either multi hit or followed by another.
Since 1.- you are equally fucked with or without sout heart, however there are situations where you can get hit in the air and have enough time to react due to invul, while sout heart can give you the option to dodge but again, if you are getting caught off guard by a multi hit in the air, you are getting hit by everything.
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>>574411407
It was, and still has the sigil rates.
Summon stuff is new. I know it as the sigil thing too.
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>>574409489
I got Lucifer from chaos++ faa, but it didn't have war elemental it had alpha or something
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>>574411203
>albacore has no good skills
My day is ruined
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>>574411618
>But that's only one specific scenario that has implications/conditions.
Happened with lcuilius.
Happened with beelzebub.
Happened with hexa.
Happened with the world a LOT.
Happened with the one skeleton boss who inflicts slow(he yeeted his axe at me. Maximum disrespect)
Happened with Song and Siette.
Happened with the dragon fights.
Happened with behemoth/ennugi.
A lot of bosses subscribe to the old MH tactic of "WAM BAM THANK YOU MAAM" after knocked you across state lines.
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>>574411639
yeah but those are base relink quests though, there's nothing for er. the resource is pretty much only useful as a reference for summons
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>>574410545
go back to gbfg nigger
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>>574404127
GGs
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>>574411760
There isn't another github with summon or sigil drop rate info thoughever, you should be able to connect the dots without wildly jumping to concusions that it's talking about a completely different domain name
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>>574409489
I got War Elemental Rolan off a Chaos++ autofarm this morning. It was only SBA +30%, but gift horses etc.
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>>574411886
GG's nigga
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>>574411886
How do I get Beato to allow me to see her naked?
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>>574411953
those are both like 3k base MSP
I'm looking for quests that give 30k base MSP, that also drop spartan / WE summons
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>>574406638
Not a seofon player but isn't it just build left bar by doing combo finishers, when you think you have enough bar summon avatar and do combo finishers while the avatar is out to fill right bar, when right bar is full then you do the infinite blades thing. An actual seofon player could probably tell you the good combos but I assume he's got the universal combo moves that others that control like him share like XY being your gap closer that can go full combo or cash out into a quick combo
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>progressing through chaos++ smoothly
>decide to try conflux 5
>fight bubs
>kill him quickly but still job insanely hard and die like 3 times
I'm guessing his normal boss fight is gonna be about the same but more HP? he felt really hard
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>>574411981
>There is someone with the same username as mine
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>>574412110
Then there isn't one afaik
Your options are pre-postgame chaos++ or infinites
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>>574412110
It doesn't exist, you have to target farm summons
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>>574411949
>you should be able to connect the dots without wildly jumping to concusions that it's talking about a completely different domain name
not really. my impression was that there was a brand new resource i haven't heard about that just came out today, and that's why it's being petitioned to be added to the op. i don't normally assume it's something i know if the details are off from what i know
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>>574412214
Fool is a common name
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How is Zeta at M50? Still a dive looper? She's been overshadowed by Eustace and Beatrix a bit in the dlc but she's still the coolest Society member in the game imo
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Gae Bulg
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>>574412214
holden bloodfast...
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>>574412197
his chaos++ version seemed to be the same. infinity bubz is much harder, he can mix up the yellow and red orbs, if you fall off the stage, your max hp is permanently lowered, and bubz's attacks have heavier knockback. the stage also starts with parts of the outer wall already broken
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>>574412303
you didn't, but someone did assume he was talking about an unrelated rentry for some reason.
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>>574412303
this is why you're getting called a schizo, one guy ≠ an imaginary petition to replace your tranny math
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>>574412885
>you're
i already said i'm nta, i don't even know what math has to do with anything
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The biggest benefit to playing Relink over the gacha is that you actually get to enjoy the music without it constantly resetting
https://youtu.be/OwmFLANdvec?si=lXYfwxWrljjxnow6
You would never be able to hear past the first 10 seconds of this song unless you are fucking up bigly in the gacha game
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reminder that djeeters is dumber than bea
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>>574412885
also idk if you're esl or what, but one person can petition for something. it's not a group thing
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I knew that damage test video was retarded look at what Lancelot can do here
https://youtu.be/5vVuCHObpX0?si=d84PKwljG7zJs1LB
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>>574413173
I love dums
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>>574411536
holy
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>>574411758
I think you are confusing CC/pulling effects with Sout heart.
Knockback from CC =/= Knockback from being hit.
If you are getting that fucked you don't need stout heart you need firm stance.
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I don't understand Beas different modes. I messed around in training mode but I don't see any obvious gameplay change based on what stance she's in? What am I missing?
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>pokemons are now strong enough to solo chaos++ lucilius
free Berserker Echo summons here I go
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Is all you need for a Tank build is Stout Heart, Greater Stronghold, Drain and Regen?
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Is linked together good for endgame?
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>chinese player
>his damage cap is like level 43
>still shits out dmg
too bad you had a chinese name
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>>574413578
Yellow = tanky, free stout heart, higher def while in devour causality
Red = more attacks, gain supplementary in devour
Kermit = Recovery, regen and drain
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>>574413642
no
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>>574413605
Flight over Fight solos all of those, and it only takes one slot. Damn, FoF is so OP.
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>>574413642
Not anymore.
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>>574413868
>>574413850
well you cant just say that and not elaborate
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>>574413857
what percentage is the damage cut?
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any way to get online working on a pirated copy or am i sol
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>>574413940
Invincibility whenever you want, whenever there's visual vomit, plus free SBA gain when combined with Nimble Onslaught. So OP!
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>>574412715
I wasn't even paying attention to orbs
The falling off the stage part is when the portals come up right? That part actually seemed easy enough
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>>574413926
After your first SBA chain, every SBA chain after that automatically brings your link level to 100%, making increased link gain redundant. It's unlikely it would result in an additional link time unless everyone in your party wasted an absurd amount of sigil slots investing into it.
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>>574413926
The meta used to be doing 2v2 ults for the longest boss downtime, but now bosses straight up enter bloodlust after a smaller chain to counter it. Linked Together was generally used to get to 100% link time with these 2v2 ults

So now you almost always want to do full party 4 member chains and those always get to 100% link time even with no Linked Together
The full chain -> Link time -> full chain loop is the ideal play now
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>>574414062
Yes but how much is the DMG down?
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>>574414123
>>574414103
ah, alright. Good time to change sigils
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>>574413605
Take steeled nerves if you also take stout heart.
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>>574414237
50% damage down after the cap, but it hardly matters since 6 seconds is shorter than you think, and most Infinity fights are either stationary or you'll spend those 6 seconds chasing the boss.
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Be a good person.
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>hit training dummy
>140%
>equip two more dmg cap sigils
>156%

I don't understand this game
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>>574414237
>>574414420
I don't run FoF but can see the vision
Most inf fights are just building meter so you can finally dump damage during SBA chains and link time which the FoF debuff will be disabled for
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>>574413309
you know this is rng fishing on the same level as io warpath right
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>>574414558
do you have the mastery node that gives +atk based on attack sigils?
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>>574414629
its funny though
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Thank god, it seems fusing Sigil A with Sigil B is the same as fusing Sigil B with Sigil A.
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>>574414420
Yeah I don't think people realize how little time this actually is between recovering from your dodge and when you'll be damaging next. It definitely hampers some damage output but not that much, and pays off when you can pair it with Nimble Onslaught for SBA meter and skill cooldowns. All those boss phases of waiting just become free meter.
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You facetank, 700k HP motherfuckers are contributing jackshit to the Infinity dps checks
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>>574414810
>use sigil A with sigil B
>result is literally just sigil A
UNBERIBABO
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If you played both:
(Your favorite) MH game
> or <
GBF: Relink
?
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New thread:
>>574414961
>>574414961
>>574414961
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>>574414909
It's a balance, just like with damage cap vs damage sigils. But niggas don't learn.
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>>574414080
those are harder in infinity. he has a few new moves that also have powerful kb
i'm not sure if this move is in chaos bubz since he dies so fast, but in infinity he has a move where he throws a giant fireball at one corner of the map that grows to cover almost the entire map and you have to run away while being sucked into it. if you touch it, it blows you off the arena
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>>574414909
do you want a 700k HP that does jackshit
or a 140k HP that does jackshit
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>>574414123
the bloodlust on anything that isn't a full burst is honestly kind of cringe. i know the devs hated the old meta but this seems very heavy-handed. it hurts people who never abused 2 + 2 stunlock and only solo sba'd to give more meter to teammates for example
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>>574414909
>>574415010
>max damage cap
>fill the rest with hp/defense
it's not rocket science



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