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>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=688635449342696590

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>574277065
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>>574392524
>ignoring the fact
Nobody is ignoring anything except you. You said one thing and people pointed out how you're wrong and now you're trying to change the subject and get them to argue about something else so you can try to feel like you're right.
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>>574393031
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>574393031
>Graves before and after eating borgor
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This next content patch better suck my fucking dick because holy shit it's been HALF A YEAR
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>>574393463
shut the heck up valve is working very hard for you spoiled man children they've added new urn lines and changed a 0.02 to a 0.001!!!
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>about to win the game off a midboss brawl
>my doorman tells everyone to take door and leave
>I get raped 5v1 and we lose the game because of it
HOLY FUCKING SHIT I HATE THESE RETARDED NIGGERS THAT THINK THEY'RE MAKING HIGH IQ MACRO PLAYS AND THEY'RE JUST FORCING RETREATS ON COMPLETELY WINNABLE FIGHTS ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME
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>>574393031
sauce?
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>>574393910
that's all there is
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>>574393693
See, you don't get it, if you play like a massive bitch 24/7 and never take any risks then you never have to feel like you fucked up and can just blame your teammates when the risks you watch them take without assisting don't pay off.
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Kumiho hero when?
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the fact that an Eternus can queue up with is retard shitlow friends and just dominate games over and over is retarded
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There exists an ego bigger of that than most carry players. The support main.
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silvers m1 in wolf form still counts as gun damage right? so its blocked by plated armor?
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>streamer plays game all day every day
>loses games and crashes out
>claims to be a victim and hates that he's forced to do this

I guess making video games your entire life isn't such a grand slam of an idea huh?
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is it normal that the queue is taking more than 5 minutes? it's 2 am and i live in europe
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>>574394739
sent from my bunker
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>>574394685
>forced
they aren't forced
could always go get a job
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>>574395380
nooo don't tell a streamer that they'll kill themselves nooo
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>>574394426
Yes, mechanically it's just a gun hit with no projectile
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>>574394739
People are out drinking and having sex
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>>574395863
>drinking
maybe
>having sex
probably not

it's 2026 nobody hooks up anymore
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>>574395784
aight thanks
just wanted to make sure I made the right buy and hadn't gimped myself
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>paige buys rescue beam
>only uses it at inappropriate times
>ignores our dying carry all game
>retard nigger teamate goes rift at max boon when our base is being sieged
>only good player on my team was the victor but they got main character syndrome so they keep diving in and using up all their lives before I can support them
>lose after an hour long slog that could've been a win at 30 minutes had my team pushed the advantage
I fucking despise this game so fucking much
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>>574394027
Never, Valve wouldn't be able to make a sexy beast form anyway. See Silver
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I will pay money to never have a drifter in any of my games again.
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I will pay money to never have a female in any of my games again.
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>still no haze nerf
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>>574397025
you can actually literally do that. you just pay for boosts above alchemist. ta da...
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>>574397025
how to spot the infiltrated immature tween in one step: just look at who immediately jumps to defend his dumb edgy power fantasy character (since he lacks any control over his own life) while at the same time complaining about women. Now watch as he proves me correct:
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>>574397427
sheeeeeeeit
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>>574393031
MOOOOODSSSSS
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>>574397602
I have sex and you don't so I win
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>>574397730
hey congrats on having sex on 2026. Do you happen to breath air too? and if so do you have a grudge against air for absolutely no reason whatsoever since you don't have any issues or anything?
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>>574397850
thanks yes I do and no I don't
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Reminder if you dont have drifter banned,
YOU ARE THROWING
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>>574397602
>defending foid deadlockers on a kamchatkan fly fishing forum
what’s worse? this or self reporting being in baboon elo with foids
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>player count dropping
>view count on twitch dropping
>all the top streamers are the same guys who have been eating this slot 12hrs a day for over a year
>everyone below that are anime avatars, furries, and trannies

This unironically is trannylock. But why? There's soooo many it's actually kind of fucking whack

Let me guess, all those sigils painted all over the map are actually causing people to troon out
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I still say that you shouldn't lose rank if you were a key player and you should ve rewarded for being MVP.
People actually trying to win the game shouldn't be punished because they were unlucky to match with knuckle dragging downies
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>>574397906
then why do you have a deep hatred against half the planet if you're so certain you're definitely not some unironic incel who blames society for his own issues in the literal same exact way a fat liberal woman would complain about men for her own bad experiences? try to answer that without proving everything I've said correct
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>>574398138
>then why do you have a deep hatred against half the planet
assume assume assume

faggot
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>>574393031
left >>>> right
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>>574397963
I've gotten to ascendant, but I don't put it as a badge of honor because it's a dumb and poorly balanced video game. Why do you try your rank as if it's the only "positive" trait about you?
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When's the graves rework?
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>>574398251
thanks for proving me right, I guess. But honestly I hope you can grow up one day and stop taking your rage out on others like a kid throwing a tantrum. I got things to do so just leave your lame insult here to prove me right one last time since you seem so adamant on it, even though it won't solve anything about your issues:
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>>574398502
>I got things to do
oh no! will we ever see you again? bye bye!
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What elo does dash in dash out stop working?
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>>574398291
>but I don't put it as a badge of honor
good because that is a handless, cumguzzling rank lol
>irrelevant question
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oh boy im so heckin glad they buffed Billy to turbo giga cancer tier again
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>>574398743
my favourite part is that this character gets to just straight up interrupt spells with his bashdown despite not being a stun of any sort
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matchmaking update when.......
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Elo update when?
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im trying out new heroes now that gun warden is kind of bad and
silver feels so underwhelming
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Whag elo does rushing Leech on warden stop working?
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>>574397025
>being in the same rank as a f*id
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I just doom queue'd a 25 game loss streak from E2 to A3, think Im gonna take a break fellas
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>>574400523
Spam mokrill
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>>574397602
Damn
when you're right, you're right.
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>>574397602
i have modded every single female character to remove their wokeslop designs
total chud victory
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I need a mod that gives rem his shota bits
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Is paradox the biggest goon bait character?
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>>574401542
nah that's rem
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>>574401074
>why yes, of course i main vindictia and use her bunny costume, how could you tell?
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I only use the bunny costume because it brings back her feet
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what is blud cooking?
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>>574401867
hes still going to end with most dmg and least death because hes billy
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>1002 games played

what did I win?
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I genuinely and i'm not even joking think there should be a mechanic where if you lose all of your T1 towers before the ten minute mark, and the enemy team hasn't lost a single tower the game should immediately just end. Like, the patron just explodes.
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>>574401867
>see meme rng item in rng party mode
>wtf why did he pick the meme rng item jeetbrool is srsbiz
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>>574402075
Its genuinely so appaling to me that there are people out there who unironically spam the same character over and over again several matches in a row
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>>574402095
Sorry goy, best I can do is another 20-30 minutes of the enemy slowly pushing your shit in
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>>574402213
>playing the main mode
hello saar
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>>574402221
umad cuz u bad. If you don't main you don't know how to abuse the hero and you're bad.
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I really hate the "balanced" matchmaking in this game, basically every game where I have fun and stomp my lane we end up having 1 or 2 dead weight players on the other end.
It's gotten to the point where me performing well and having fun with the game equals a high chance of losing the match due to the matchmaking, I can see why everyone complains about it.
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Why did Deadlock, for lack of a better word, flop?
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>>574402856
Yoshi(icefrog) and the dev team are retarded
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>>574402856
too many blacks
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>>574402856
they refused to pander to gooners with skins like pic related
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>>574402856
Because you touch yourself at night
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>>574403312
why do they always change their proportions to be as cartoony and stereotypical as physically possible? legitimately asking. It's like those second life trolling videos where all the people with zero self-awareness all look the same with either huge muscles or huge butt cheeks.
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There's nothing wrong with going out just to fuck femboys.
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things yoshi could do to improve matchmaking immediately but won't because he wants the game to fail
>instead of averaging out ranks, party queues are based on the highest mmr player. meaning high elo players trying to smurf can't
>party queuers gain half the mmr and lose the normal amount
>there must be at least one kelvin, mnk, abrams, or billy on each team, always
>"unlocking" a new hero requires at least 10 street brawl games or 5 bot games (around 2-3 hours). players can have 5 free unlocks when they start the game
>if you have two games in a row with more than 1 death every 2 minutes, you have to play a bot game. if you continue to feed in human games, the bot games you have to play go up exponentially
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>>574402075
a forced 50/50 win rate
thanks valve!
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>teamate greeds the sinner my helper is working on
if you do this, I will throw.
No ifs or buts
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>>574403792
porn addiction
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>>574404197
you're already throwing so who gaf
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>>574403949
>"unlocking" a new hero requires at least 10 street brawl games or 5 bot games
alternatively, if they want to keep every hero free, which will likely be the case, they could add some sort of quest for new players where they can unlock a basic skin for 6 different heroes, but it shouldn't be based on something like matches played or won, since people will int or abuse systems and learn nothing from the experience. It should be more nuanced, like a progress bar that tracks different things during matches such as connected wall jumps, towers pushed without dying, successful teamfights, and so on.
This way new players have a reason to master a full team of characters and the devs don't lose too much money
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>Be me in jungle
>rem walks by and dumps a minion on a sinner
>rem walks away
>let minion punch sinner until the lights flash
>Do the last hit myself
Problem?
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>>574403949
>instead of averaging out ranks, party queues are based on the highest mmr player. meaning high elo players trying to smurf can't
That'll be added whenever they feel like making a dedicated ranked mode. They can't do it until then because people inviting their friends to play with them is how these games get popular and if they instantly get throatfucked while their friend is having to sweat instead of coach them then they won't stay.
>party queuers gain half the mmr and lose the normal amount
This is a plus for anybody smurfing to play with their friends.
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Somepony post THE BROOLER image please with the drifter wojack
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>>574404859
you spent 10x the time and effort compared to the Rem, who already fucked off to do something else. Not exactly an own
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>>574405017
IM BROOLING!!!!!
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>>574405230
ngl other than fighting other humans nothing in this game really takes "effort"
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>>574403792
I absolutely hate girlfailure Silver because the zipline animation really brings out how fucked up the proportions are and they didn't bother to fix how bad her thighs and calves clip into each other
Some unskilled modder took the model and jammed it into the game without adjusting it at all
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18 DAYS
3 WEEKS
428 HOURS
YOSHI SAID THERE WOULD BE AN UPDATE IN A FEW WEEKS
HE HAS LIED YET AGAIN
HOW MUCH LONGER MUST WE SUFFER
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Gunslop killed deadlock.
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>laning against a bomb geist and splat viscous
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>>574405583
that didnt answer the question
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>>574405906
buy spirit shielding and rush them
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What elo does witchmail graves stop working?
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>>574406037
Thought the other guy answered it pretty good so I was just adding my thoughts onto your own
Porn addicted gooners have little to no regard for proportions or any quality control in their work
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What if Lash's ground pound scaled with weapon damage like paradox
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>>574406560
Seeker
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>>574406605
>what if we accelerated player count drop
why not just go eos at that point
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>>574406684
Good idea.
this piece of shit deserves nothing more
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>>574406560
Elo isn't real
It's a complete coinflip every game if someone can actually pilot a m1gger
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What elo does does maxxing graves 2 first and rushing superior cooldown so you can spam 2 ghouls every 10 seconds stop working?
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>>574407163
Alchemist because then people buy monster rounds
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>rift is forming
>...
>guys help me take rift
>...
>enemy has captured rhe rift!
>...
>help defend york!
>...
>they're taking our yellow walker!!
>...
>they destroyed our yellow walker!!!
>...
>help defend york!!!!!!
>...
>they're in mid!!
>...
>help defend york!!!!
>...
>help defend broadway!!!!!
>...
>midboss_half_health.mp3
>...
>they have taken the rejuvenator!
>TEAMFIGHT NOW!!! NOW NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO TEAMFIGHT THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF JUNGLE RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!!!!!
>flawless teamwipe
>lose
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What elo does rushing superior duration on graves stop working?
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>enemy gets fed 10 kills in lane
>it's silver
>win
Lmao
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>>574407401
This is your fault somehow.
It's never shitty teamates
In fact, there is no such thing as shitty teamates.
Every bad thing is your fault somehow
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why are pros allowed to stream with all these mods that are basically cheats like look at eidos scrim stream this is ridiculous
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They really just have to cancel this game they don't have the work ethic to make a live service game in this competitive gaming market any more.
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>>574408573
Play a game made by Swedes if you want to see how bad it can get.
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>>574402856
because it's mobaslop but not different enough from other mobaslop to draw in enough players from other mobas or who dislike typical mobas
people who like their hero shooters will stick with rivals and ow, people who like mobas will probably just stick with the moba they already play
>inb4 "but i'm a player who migrated!!"
yeah no shit, we all are to a degree by nature of us being in this thread, my point stands
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>>574402856
people realized games consisting of 45+ minutes of trying your best can be decided by one teammate being stupid, are in fact not really that fun
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>>574402856
It tried to merge several genres but instead of improving on the formula it removed and dumbed down them instead. The shooter mechanics feel like garbage, the moba elements are hilariously lacking. The character designs are okay, but the kits themselves are already feeling samey because of how the items and laning system they cant be unique. Objectives are boring. Games are slogs and rarely even.

It just doesnt do much well at all it's a very average game and if it wasnt made by valve it would already be dead
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Uh oh you let one of Grave'a ghouls reach you with 1 hp. Say goodbye to 90% of your hp bar!
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>>574409193
skill issue
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>>574401074
>wokeslop = not giving me a boner
what causes this mentality? pretty much every female in deadlock (besides calico because she's unfinished) is appealing in my eyes.
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>>574402856
2025 shop rework and the series of dogshit mini patches that followed was unironically the beginning of the end for deadlock.

6/17/25 got rid of deniable orbs on hero and objective kills. This one line change in a tiny ass patch note did immense damage to the gameplay that deadlock has never been able to recover.
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>>574409270
Silver is clearly furry tranny coded
t. not that guy
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>>574409349
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>>574403949
>unlocking
why the fuck would you think unlocking heroes is a good idea?
thats completely fucking retarded
>>574404639
go back to fucking league of legends
no one cares for your retarded ideas
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>>574402856
yoshi refused to deal with matchmaking. i'm not denying that it isn't impossible to grind all the way to E6 but if you're in any rank that isnt that matches that play like >>574408958 aren't uncommon and fucking suck. doesn't matter what high rankers tell you while also linking whatever youtube video proves their point, a lot of people don't have time for this shit and it would be easier to just go to another hero shooter or moba and get a high rank there
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>>574403949
Oooooor, (you) could just climb out of newfag elo instead of subjecting everyone to hero unlock grinding.
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Rank shouldn't be determined solely by winning or losing in a game with six people to a team.
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>>574402856
>Third person
>Incredibly unappealing BRIDGEslop designs

Shrimple as.
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should i learn this game or dota 2? which one will be the future? will this game have more players? genuinely asking because i'm looking to get into moba
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>>574410408
That's like asking whether you should start heroin or crack. If you aren't already doing one of them, don't even start.
This whole genre is a giant skinner box for sunk cost losers that can't separate from their need to control the outcome (hint: you can't)

Just move on with your life and go actually be happy and content. You shouldn't even be here.
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>>574410408
Go play rivals or OW. Even smite 2 is a better product that deadlock in its current state.
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>>574409304
>6/17/25 got rid of deniable orbs on hero and objective kills
Why the fuck did they do this. It had soul.
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>>574410408
>which one will be the future
mobas are a dying genre anon
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>>574411007
Clever forms of counterplay to strong lane bullies? We can't have that, ever.
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>>574411007
because it means the 0/20 lash can't feed as hard so smurfing would be harder
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geist is seriously the weakest hero in the entire game. everything she does someone else does better. you don't even see her in night shift thats how weak she is
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This game is the most fun, in my head.
Then I sit down to play some games and by the time I'm on game two I'm ready to go torture my cock and my balls.
I checked my history and have only won 4/16 games, and in each game I have three people on my team who have 30+ deaths between them by 20 minutes.
Every single game is the same now, every game has an invisible double bomb bebop and a refresher seven/lash.

Why am I even here? What does it all mean?
Should I just make a chaturbate account and spread my asshole while dressed as Lash?
Is this what Yoshi really wants? I'm pretty sure at this point, it's the only way.
Please accept my tribute Yoshi, and please forgive me for trying new characters.
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>>574408002
>It's never shitty teamates
Nobody has ever said this. You just hear what you want to hear so you can justify your whining.
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>>574412091
Is this true?
t. Geist main
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>>574397850
>ESL niggerbabble
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>>574401643
If I used cheats I would do the dame
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>>574411419
they say the same thing about looter shooters, extraction shooters, hero shooters, and battle royales
so what *is* the future?
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>>574413207
nobody knows, because outside of friendslop, online gaming as a whole has been dying post-lockdowns
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>>574412091
This kind of blatant downplay only works with Silver
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>>574405697
a few weeks is three, and it was a rough estimate
he has two weeks to deliver the matchmaking update
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>>574413207
eceleb "content" slop and single player indie games
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>>574413207
Whatever the anon you're talking to likes. Everything else is dead or dying. Anons don't like anything.
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>>574409757
you're replying to two different people having similar ideas, in what people might describe as a sort of agreement or at least a conversation, while you scream and whine in a completely autistic outburst, which truly nobody asked for
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>>574413971
yes and that is why I said two different things to them?
unlocking heroes is a retarded idea, which is why I said it to the first anon
and then the second anon, using league of legends terms trying to also advocate for retarded ideas I told to go back to league of legends.

Now, since you didn't seem to pick up on the 2nd post being a league of legends player because of the very specific to that game terms they used, I am going to deduce you are also a league of legends player, as if you weren't you would have immediately clocked what they said.
So go back to league of legends, no one cares to hear you retarded ideas
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>play calico
>have to hit all your random spread bombs to burst someone down
>shit gun spread, don't even bother building it
>tiny window after landing a slash to get your bonus souls
>modestly ahead midgame but fall off a cliff
>endgame you have no impact
>at least you're annoying!

>play drifta
>burst damage in a huge cone you barely have to aim
>"gun" can hit anywhere for full damage
>keep stacking weapon damage as long as you get solo assists
>power keeps ramping up through endgame
>can actually carry
>not black
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>>574414330
Calico is wokeslop and shoold be removed from the game
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>>574414225
that's a lot of words to repeat the same exact thing you already said without adding anything new, and projecting your own ignorance on others says more about you than them. But the question is: why does it matter and why does it affect you personally this much? what are you trying to gain from this?
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>>574414330
>cajun
same thing
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>>574414330
Nah I've started playing Calico lately and I think she's way better than Drifter, it's not that hard to hit the bombs and you're a rapist from lane to mid game, the mobility and regen the cat gives you let you perma roam and terrorise their team and usually escape unscathed, with trophy collector and access to the tunnels you're printing money and are usually on par with their perma farming m1 carries, only bad part of the hero is her turning into a weird frontliner late game because you can't assassinate anyone anymore.
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>>574415689
go back to league of legends
no one wants you here
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>>574415723
Drifter is Canadian
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>Francis complaining about canada
>Francis calls the zombies "Vampires"
Was this lowkey the inspiration for Drifter?
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eido and dew left mlc what now
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>>574416147
I don't play League. I was not thinking about League. And I'm free to speak in whatever way I want. Without appealing to primitive tribalism or caveman-level social tribe dynamics. Sorry if I hurt your ego or something in some way but this really seems more like your own issue.
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Why are you guys all such whiny bitches?
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>>574416560
>quacks like a duck
no one cares about your claims
we can all see where u come from
go back to your containment game
no one cares about your retarded opinions
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Since Yoshi likes turning everyone into gunslop when is Mo and Krill's turn to have a broken gun build
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>Half a year without any content update
It's absolutely insane how fucking lazy Valve are now.
>Now
Yes, now. Dota 2 was consistently updated until the 2020s until it fell into the same vacuum Deadlock is already at, and Dota 2 hit open beta for 8 years when it fell into the gutter.

It should not take this long to finish this shit.
Stop the vacations to Hawaii.
Stop the summer vacations.
Shut down the snack bar.
Shut down the Discord.
Shut down the forums.
Shut down the Le Epic Private Alpha build.
Put your fucking heads down and finish the game.

That's it. I swear to God these retards are going to pull a Morphling and leave a hero like Mo & Krill with the same 10 polygon model and just ignore pleads to update it.
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>>574417594
around half the cast are gun and half are spirit what more do you want
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tracklock put in a new metric system that can go up even if you lose. big fan of this as you can still gain points regardless of your teammates being retarded feeders
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>>574416403
fishcake left too
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>>574416403
humiliation ritual of having to play with a trans mascot was unbearable probably
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>>574419053
eido is a retard feeder who sucks n fucks trannies he probs loved playing with tranny mascot.
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>>574418816
tracklock love
dia chan love
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>>574418214
I want a friend to play deadlock with, actually
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reminder to not immediately buy a normal item after the first creep wave, wait 1-2 minutes to see if your lane partner is human
if its a bot, buy egg and hard afk farm
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>>574418816
>tracklock put in a new metric system that can go up even if you lose.
Honestly this is how skill-based matchmaking should work.
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>>574419508
it is. i almost always gain a rank when i get mvp, while "normal" games it takes 2-3 to get a rank
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>>574393031
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>queue for Brawl
>pick Ivy
>broooool
She's so fun, bros. I straight up can't play as anyone else.
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>>574418816
Statlocker has had that for awhile, hasn't it? I wouldn't be surprised if the actual MM does too to a degree but it's just too hard to quantify.
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9 times out of 10 when i suspect a player of smurfing lo and behold they have a level 0 account with one game owned, first game of deadlock ever played was within the last 30 days. Crazy
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>>574419902
>too hard to quantify
comparing your obj damage/ team damage and kda against the rest of the lobby is literally easy as fuck
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>>574416403
why the fuck would they leave mlc was like the best NA team
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any cutelows looking for a asc 6 trans girly to carry them? :3
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>>574419989
I'm saying it's hard to quantify as a player to what degree exactly your performance affects your rank on a game by game basis and the game may already let you gain points on a loss.
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>>574420069
no
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>>574419840
This, but regular games
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>>574420069
Me
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When are they buffing Seven? He's just barely B tier.
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>eidos team disbanded
based
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>Do worse than Drifter by every measurable metric
>MVP
Even the game has Silver derangement syndrome
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>>574420873
We don't know, Vegas.
We just don't know.
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>>574420957
takes into account urn running by alot
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The entire meta of this game is just "hope you dont get the designated retard"
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>amerimutts unironically get offended if you say retard in chat
this game has such a horrible community ngl this is what happens wehn you appeal to troon shit like silver
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>>574420957
The game takes the average stats of the hero into consideration so if you win on silver you're almost guaranteed to get mvp.
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>>574420618
I don't really have time for standard games, unfortunately. And my friends also find them demoralizing.
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>>574421283
Call your friends niggers from me
But yeah, Ivy is fun either way
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>>574420957
>Do worse than Drifter by every measurable metric
Damage absorbed? CC score? Early game obj damage? Relative team farm? Time contesting Rift? I can think of lots of stats that could be taken into account and not shown on the scoreboard.
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>try silver because surely she isn't as bad as everyone says she is
>proceed to do nothing all game
it takes 80 years for ult to charge and she does no damage
this character sucks lol
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>outplay somebody by cursing them the instant they ult
>visibly HEAR AND SEE their ult start and voice line go out, then get interrupted by curse
>they get their ult refunded and get to just do it again in a few seconds
>wipe our team with it
>7/11 teammate asks over voice why i didn't curse
yeah i think that's the final straw for me, what a dogshit game
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Just so I'm clear
>team is behind
>focus on building damage
>team is ahead
>focus on building greens
Is the optimal way to build, yes?
>>574421818
She needs good aim + a bunch of gun items just to hit wolf form and then movement greens to actually do anything, she's the most two-dimensional hero in the game
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>>574421845
yeah this game is dogshit in rivals if you interrupt an ult windup it goes on cooldown
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>>574421905
that's the general strategy yeah.
but usually you have a specific problem you need to solve if you are behind and you should build the thing that solves the problem
and when you are ahead you often have someone who is quite dangerous for you (unless you are REALLY far ahead) and is close to being able to take you, so you need to build an item that stops them doing the thing.

and even when these things aren't the case it also depends on the hero because you might need a certain thing that doesn't align with damage when behind and survivability when ahead
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>>574421905
She's the most item locked hero in the game, you need every slot and she can't farm lol
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>>574421818
>self-admitting to a skill issue this bad

lol
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>>574402856
this >>574409127
they're trying to do too many things at once and all of them feel lacking in their own way
like MAYBE what we have now COULD work, but that would actually require them to refine things and make drastic changes towards fitting all the pieces together nicely
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Yeeesh can the big patch drop already this shit is so stale and boring and only the really new people or people that havent showered in 3 months are playing so every games a blow out
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>>574411007
Because it's a competitive game and you shouldn't get rewarded for dying
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>>574410408
deadlock has a brighter future, dota is old reliable.
I play both.
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>>574421518
If they ARE being measured then why don't they have a separate screen with all of those
The only thing I maybe did was more damage to midboss after Ivy and I started it and the stopped
I'll bet it also counts debuffs absorbed because I just ate them with frenzy+weighted
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>>574419835
>>574418213
truth nukes

fuck valve, genuinely fuck these retards. The game is not even remotely good yet and they are already coasting. This is why salaries dont work you need stock options. If this company was spun off from valve into deadlock subsidiary and half their current money was paid via equity the game would have triple the updates. They're content milking their massive salaries doing nothing though
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>>574419815
Winning is the only way to climb
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so none of you guys are talking about eido and dew leaving MLC?
with fishcake potentially leaving too?
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You will all be ashamed of your words and deeds when the item rework comes out.
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>>574422398
Half this general actively reviles every eternus player.
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>>574422398
Nobody gives a single fuck about a fake pro scene for a 20% finished game
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>>574422253
>Counterplay to lane bully faggotry is le bad thing, actually

Go back to overwatch.
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>>574421845
>wraith goes to teleport away
>cards leave her hand, she says her line
>stun her with abrams charge
>charge ends
>just casts it again
>can't catch her even if i ult
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>>574422398
The competitive scene isn't that serious and also not much information about it has come out yet.
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>>574422398
I don't care about teams and mentioning streamers here inevitably gets you called a shill
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>>574412091
>you don't even see her in night shift thats how weak she is
nigga are you retarded or just baiting
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>>574422543
They really truly need to put a little icon in the ability description to show if it will or will not refund the cooldown on interruption, because it is impossible to guess from looking.
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>>574422398
1. >>574422540
2. Melee Creeps have been dropping Night Shifts for months now. Actually surprised it took so long for the players to get fed up and mix things up.
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>>574422398
it's not russian so nobody cares.
everybody here loved the oses leaving his team drama, because it's russian.
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>>574422361
except some people have lsot rank winning and won rank losing....
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>>574422662
they should buff maurice and krilliam
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>>574422716
thats bcus rvssians own deadlock never forget it.
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>>574419902
In the actual game your MMR will always drop if you lose and always rise if you win no matter how well you played in a loss or how poorly you played in a win, but the amount you gain/lose will vary on performance.
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>>574422670
Abilities just shouldn't be refunded if they're interrupted ever. Nothing feels worse than stunning a haze/dynamo/pocket out of their ult only for them to instantly do it again.
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>>574422890
that's not how it works.
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>>574418816
>realize my team is likely to lose
>spend the next 20 minutes int pushing literally any and every enemy that shows up on the map
>15 kills, 25 deaths, most damage in game
>staggering loss that's entirely my fault
>elo go up
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ANY UNEMPLOYED CHUDS TO CARRY US
Currently an Archon pedo SPIC who can’t speak english well and supports ice and an Arcanist e-girl.
Just no furries, troons or snowflakes, be able to carry sometimes, at least knows how to depush lanes, and is fine with bantering and being toxic thats a bonus (also bonus if you have multiple accounts because you will get muted)
were both jobless and based so we have full time availability.
discord: edgyyoungadult
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>>574422662
>celeste 0 presence
what happened
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>>574422970
it goes down if you have bad kda
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>play ivy
>keep my team alive with healing nova + connection
>win
>dont rank up
>play holliday
>go 25 and 5
>lose
>rank down
ape game
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>>574422972
Worst post I've seen in this general that didn't have an image of Silver attached to it thank you
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>>574422961
>shows it working exactly as described, pocket still has his ult
?
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>>574423009
You're not running a hero that auto loses lane in comp unless they become an insane 1v11 carry after and while Celeste is good out of lane she isn't going 1v11
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They should just scrap Silver entirely and give her ult to Warden or something
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>>574423113
because he didn't cast it.
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is abrams the most chinese character in the game?
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>>574422890
They aren't. For some abilities the voice line will start playing before it begins actually casting, so if you stun them early you'll hear it but it won't eat the CD.
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>>574423468
Yes that is my point. If the audio+visuals have already started then an interrupt should make it go on cooldown, anything else is retarded game design.
https://files.catbox.moe/py1tgx.webm
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>>574422972
i'm assuming your the spic, yes?
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>>574423009
She got overnerfed.
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Slam fire should deal max hp damage instead of current, and the amount should be unnerfed
Bola should straight up root instead of being a slowing hex
Boot kick should apply an accuracy debuff to the enemy
Ult should have the heal on kill again and have its cd reduced
There, now Silver is decent and you can stop complaining
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i warned you about inviting the furfag audience man they're insufferable in every regard
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>>574424057
Counterpoint: her gun SFX sounds like utter dogshit so she'll still be ass even with these changes
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>>574424057
troonver doesn't need any of that.
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>>574422662
I'm just flat out lying. I don't even play geist, I think she's overpowered actually but I'm trying to fit in with the people who claim that strong heroes are actually super weak
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>>574424057
this and her bite should execute under 15% hp
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Hoodwink will save this game.
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>>574424103
It's kind of incredible how Silverfags were notoriously obnoxious trannies before the character even actually released.
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15 minutes into game
Guess the hero
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>>574424103
Furfags are the ones pretending silver is op? Makes sense.
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>>574393910
hard-degenerate
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>previously read in this general that eternus players struggle to climb through ascendant on smurfs
kekoty
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>>574424862
You guys probably need to see the items to make a guess...
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>russian calico does their jungle and gets killed feedding their carries bags every time
this game has hands down the stupidest people I have ever met in a game ever Im convinced most of the people who play this game are not human but even bots wouldn't do that nonsense
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>>574425014
Apollo
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>>574424928
People cope about that shit all the time on here even for games where you can link people speedrunning from the lowest rank to top 500. This website is full of delusional, mentally ill retards convinced they're the best and everybody else is either lucky or cheating.
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>shiv is so op now!
he's always been like this. his kit is OP on a fundamental level, you just didn't notice until your favorite streamer told you what to think
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>>574425014
this looks like the kinda shit a retarded doorman would build
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>>574425134
wrong i noticed when a 24/3 shiv tore me a new asshole
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>3 and 11 calico 5 and 11 infernus
that matchmaking update is going to make or break this game what do you want me to do here what?
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>>574425014
calico
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>>574425014
Bebop
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>>574425063
>>574425163
>>574425314
>>574425367
no right guesses yet
25 min update
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>>574425435
Viscoos
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>>574403949
>party queues are based on the highest mmr player
Oh boy, initiates in eternus games?
>party queuers gain half the mmr and lose the normal amount
Oh boy, eternus players sitting in initiate because they need only lose 1/3rd of their matches to stay down there?
>there must be at least one kelvin, mnk, abrams, or billy on each team, always
Your Victor? Your Dynamo? Your Warden?
>"unlocking" a new hero requires at least 10 street brawl games or 5 bot games (around 2-3 hours). players can have 5 free unlocks when they start the game
Street brawl games last 13 minutes on average, so you want people to play 4.5 thousand hours to unlock the full cast?
>if you have two games in a row with more than 1 death every 2 minutes, you have to play a bot game. if you continue to feed in human games, the bot games you have to play go up exponentially
Marvel Rivals does this so players get free wins and don't ragequit. Is that what we've sunk to?

I'm glad Yoshi doesn't look in these threads for ideas because everything you suggested is dogshit.
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>>574425719
>40 * 10 * 13 = 4500 hours
you are indian
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>rem on the team
game lost at the draft
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>>574425605
It was Silver
She lost lol
This poor guy has been rushing spirit snatch 3rd item every game he plays
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>>574425435
Drifter, Billy, Venator, Silver, Melee Ivy?
If its not one of those then this is some weird gimmick build.
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Back when the game had soul....
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>>574425884
The indian is the one begging for having to grind heroes for literally zero reason.
>>574426073
>soul
>celeste in screenshot
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>>574425884
>forgot to convert from minutes
It's over...
70 hours of streetbrawl is still a tall ask thoughever
I'd unironically rather the other anon's idea of just posing challenges meant to teach the player to unlock shit rather than unlocking heroes by playing bot matches
Bot matches are fucking worthless, I hopped in one months ago to try the gunrem meme for funsies, ended the game like 50/0
Unsurprisingly trying gunrem in a REAL match did not work out nearly so well
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you should be able to play any hero at the start, without having to jump through fucking loops and hoops
>bbbut what about muh new players! i dunt want them on muh team!!!
CLIMB NIGGA! GET OUTTA NOOB ELO!
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Why was the second batch of heroes so shit compared to the first batch? Most of them were nerfed into oblivion and changed/gutted so much from release that it ruined the fun and soul of them. Really the only failure from the first batch was victor. The rest are all iconic and popular. Half of the second batch is unplayable trash that has been completely changed since their release like celeste, silver, and graves, and the rest are still extremely obnoxious or just badly designed.
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Zoomers weren't around for this.
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At least take your nostalgia screenshots with a hero that was actually around at the time, instead of the posterchild for the post-tumblrina tourist invasion.
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/lolg/ is laughing at us...
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>>574426506
Second batch, L->R:
Lane bully you uninstall for 1600
Transbian self-insert
TF2 Pyro on release
All the sinners for nothing
Blatantly unfinished
Venator(he was fine on release they fucked him up afterwards)
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>lose 6 games in a row
>only down 1 subrank
yoshi is looking out for me
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>>574426506
The first batch all sucked ass. Nothing holds a candle to the release heroes, especially when we consider being fun or at the very least not frustrating to fight.

The only hero release that's actually added to the overall general gameplay experience was viscous. Maaaaybe drifter.
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>>574426723
/lolg/ can keep their bbc spammer and discuck cabal mouth shut
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Third batch should be all females. I can't stand moids anymore.
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>>574426723
league is so bad now the only thing they have to look forward to is reverting patches and playing on a 13 year old build
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>>574393031
>mogged by rivals
>mogged by dota
>mogged by fucking OVERWATCH even

what the hell went wrong bros....?
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>574426506
first batch was holliday/vyper/calico/sinclair thoughbiet
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>>574424928
>S+++ilver
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>>574427164
the most abysmal balancing and matchmaking ever seen by human eyes
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They need to add a hot kitsune or gumiho to the next big patch.
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The only thing that'll save this game is fixing the matchmaking NO ONE gives a shit that you nerfed Victor's CD by +5 when you get a fucking 0 17 2 Abrams one game the next a 0 12 billy the next game a 2 5 victor
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>>574426506
they genuinely ran out of design ideas so they had to think of new ones from scratch, which isn't a bad thing except in a game like this it's very VERY easy to accidentally make the most cancerous character imaginable for both your AND the enemy team.
if you go back before they actively started adding new heroes you could already see how they were clearly struggling to come up with new kits, which is why so many of them share things like "grenade aoe that gives you a debuff" or "passive that lets you do more damage when you shoot them".
The funny thing is they HAD interesting design ideas in the backburner with skybuilder and slork but for some reason they decided to not go forth with these and instead went with celeste and apollo which can stay airborne forever. i have zero fucking clue why, my guess is they did this because it's way easier to grab holliday's low gravity code and slap it into a hero than it is actually having to code a proper grappling hook into the game that doesn't look and feel like ass.

WALL CLINGING ITEM/HERO WHEN YOSHI? FUCK YOU I DON'T WANT ANY MORE AOE CC SLOP
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>>574427164
overwatch literally just cancelled their deadlock ripoff gamemode though lmao
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>seven lightning ball t3 now allows you to alt fire it it in order for seven to turn into the ball ala storm spirit from dota, though obviously with a hefty duration penalty compared to normal casting
thoughts?
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>>574426525
>leaving my lane minute 0 to climb on top of the museum as lash and dive bomb into the neighbour lane
genuinely the most fun i've ever had with this piece of shit game. god forbid there's any interactivity between lanes before the first 10 minutes.
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
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>>574427108
>league is so bad now the only thing they have to look forward to is reverting patches and playing on a 13 year old build
nigga you just described half the posts in this thread

>>574427417
>recognizing mixing mobas and hero shooters isn't a good idea and scrapping development for it altogether
idk how you spin that around to be a bad thing, stadium was awful and literally only 3% of the playerbase even bothered playing it
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holy shit EOMM is real, this is what i get while currently on a 3 lose streak back to back
the more you queue after losing 1 game, the more you will lose
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>>574427713
It was his designated loss, bro, of course he fed.
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It’s over
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>>574427808
oh no! anyways they'll be back under a new name again.
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>>574401542
It makes me wish scottish women were real
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>>574427713
lmao aren't you glad yoshi lets blatant alt accounts into the beta
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>enemy team is just ult bots that 5 man gank you as soon as you cross the middle of the map
>don't push at all even with rejuv
What is this playstyle called?
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Please someone explain this
>steam has restrictions when your steam account is limited you cant use the marketplace i dont know if they changed this but you also cant add friends etc etc
>but for some inane reason level 0 steam accounts can play the game even if they have a vac and game ban
there's so much quick things they can do to fix the game but they just dont limited accounts shouldn't be allowed to play the game no reason for them to
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>>574427407
You'd think a feature of this game would be more mechanically intensive heroes that can't really be done in a regular moba but they just keep giving characters autopilot AoE nukes and stuns. Even the M1 characters get pushed further in that direction, Haze was an actual viable gun carry that didn't focus on her ult and then they explicitly changed that to make the only way to build her be an ultbot.
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you wrong for that eido
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>>574428212
the restrictions on the marketplace were imposed only after years of people complaining about it AND after it threatened legal trouble for valve
no matter how dogshit it makes their own game's experiences smurfs and alts don't affect their bottom line (or even if they do they are not legally obligated to do anything about it) so they couldn't give less of a shit. this is what the best gaming company out there does, enjoy.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1uzbgce/typing_a_slur_into_chat_should_immediately_ban/
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is it just me or does every match just feel so one sided every time now
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>>574429296
>now
been like this for half a year now lilbro
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>>574428224
>mechanically intensive heroes that can't really be done in a regular moba
this just leads to overcomplicated bullshit, or flyers which we already have and everyone hates
>Haze was an actual viable gun carry that didn't focus on her ult and then they explicitly changed that to make the only way to build her be an ultbot
good because the gunplay sucks
it's far more enjoyable to pop out of invis, hex someone, press 4, and delete them, rather than spending 9001% brainpower chasing some 10 stamina cornerboosting ape around half a city block while trying to aim properly while moving properly while the retarded camera smacks into every piece of geometry
this game is literally an uphill battle of struggling to overcome the dumbest fvcking design choices
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So how many of you have known about the Wraith splitshot bug?
How long has it been in the game?
Yoshi patch when?
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>>574429287
Why are you browsing Reddit? Go back.
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>>574429287
Dass rite, zero tolerance for raycis
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okay so ill never be able leave seeker if i dont abuse troonment bugs? i swear this tranny game will be doa if they dont remove these tranny bugs
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>>574429731
fucking transgender aim! transgender macro! transgender counterbuilding! AHHHH
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>>574429672
>this just leads to overcomplicated bullshit, or flyers which we already have and everyone hates
not him and you're right but the problem here is that what makes deadlock unique IS the overcomplicated bullshit, even if it's bad. trying to simplify either the moba or the tps mechanics will eventually just lead to both sides feeling worse than their contemporaries on their respective genres, much like how you already have people saying the guns feel like dogshit or even that spells like lash's stomp don't feel good to use (which is a very VERY bad sign). Why would anyone play deadlock when they can play marvel/overwatch or dota/league instead and get purer experiences from both sides?

But then if you capitalize on the overcomplicated bullshit experience this game has you WILL filter most players anyways due to the simple fact moba skills and tps skills don't transfer very well to eachother unless you're experienced with both on a high level which most people aren't. It's a lose-lose situation, and both approaches will eventually lead to a shrinking playerbase like we're seeing now. This is something people have been saying since the game was first shown to the masses and for which there's still no solution in sight other than PERFECT and timely balancing (which as we've seen valve is completely incapable of providing). The only reason they're going for a simplified approach to balancing is because it's easier to develop.
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>>574429859
this but unironically. this game should have seperate ranks or ranked queue for trannies who tryhard with troonment and bugs and unironically do stuff like midboss
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>>574430232
This. It's fucking ridiculous how inaccessible eternus is to normal people
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walking forward is transgender think about it you're changing your positioning you're transitioning from one place to the other
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>>574429296
you just described every single match in every single team-based matchmaking game in the history of video games

dont take these types of games seriously where you have to rely on random brown subhumans from around the globe
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Sick of Stroons walking away from everything how has Valve let this bug remain in the game for so long they've got to be patching out walking backwards any day now
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>fpsl implodes because of shady scams
>mlc implodes because of their performance
what comes next for north america? guildhouse is coming up soon, I feel like that has something to do with this
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>>574393031
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
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>>574431143
Mass suicide because they're all d-grade bums
Eternus in america is equal to ascendant in eu
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>>574427417
WTF? That was so fun man. Why the fuck would they cancel it
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i sometimes play on american servers and it's the only place i find troons
why is that?
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>>574429731
Yep. Being a movement tranny that spends 20 hours in sandbox wasting time lets you escape so many ganks and also lets you chase down people that would otherwise get away. It's probably a 25% boost to your KDA easily. Just ridiculous how fucking retarded valve is at making a good competitive game
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>>574431308
ours are in deadlock lobbies. yours are in parliment! lmao
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Asian deadlock lobbies are crazy
their Phantom is like NA eternus
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>>574430328
>eternashits
>normal

Far from, theyre wild animals living in dens
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>>574431359
how do i go about gaining speed using walljumps?
iad against a wall and then jump off it with a walljump into airstrafe?
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>>574431287
>Why the fuck would they cancel it
turns out most people don't enjoy mixing moba and hero shooters
who would've thunk it?
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>2026
>still no Moth(wo)man character
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>>574431287
>Why the fuck would they cancel it
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>>574431504
>dont add many heroes
>waooow why is nobody playing
many such cases
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im not a furry but silver is the only good model in the game rn
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>>574431490
There are bugged spots that give you a bajillion momentum that you need to memorize, edge or corner boost is autistic enough where you just dash after you get near a corner and bug it out but who cares it's gay
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how are you supposed to lane against this nigger indian
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>silver does two TWO jungles while two people attack me and take green walker
the people that play this game are lobotomites
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What the fuck is it about wraith/Haze players that make them write "ez" at the end every time like clockwork?
I swear they do it at least three times as often as other characters.
The characters are like the most easymode training wheels characters too I really don't get it.
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>>574432349
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>>574432554
>retards that put more importance on winning than fun expect others to care that they won
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>>574432349
She's just farming to hit her spike and solo carry bro
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why do i, a sub-100 hours player, have to get matched into a game against an 800 hour celeste?
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>>574432554
they know they play boosted heroes so they constantly need to reaffirm to themselves that they won because of skill when in reality their rank drops any time their character gets nerfed
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Time for Graves/Rem gaming.
No thinking, no aiming, brain off.
Send the minions to do it.
They do lots of things.
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>>574432965
Because hours ≠ skill, dummy.
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>>574431969
realizing deadlock WILL need constant keyjingling from valve in order to be kept alive is when you finally realize this game has no future
every other game that hasn't been cancelled from them is able to stay afloat on it's own with zero mantenaince from them. the moment they're forced on the live service threadmill is the moment they lose any and all interest on them.
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>>574432965
Matchmaking sucks and the game puts you down 2-3 rank tiers if you lose too many times in a row
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>>574431359
these fucking nerds will also abuse warp stone and counterspell to dodge my attacks. its so fucking tiresome. just let me play. these eternus trannies would instantly drop to seeker without their troonment and counterbuying abuse. sweaty trannies will really do midboss after two kills. cant you just enjoy the game
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>>574432554
people type stuff because tilting opponents is fun. you have been tilted. that's fun.
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>>574433379
tf2 and cs2 have constant keyjingling in the form of cosmetics though
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>>574433342
sure, but can it at least not be fucking celeste?
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>server keeps dcing me every 2 min
yeah im gonna lose this game arent i
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>>574433521
gunskins i'll give you although to this very day i don't know why anyone likes them, they're the most pointless, boring looking cosmetic out of any game ever and that's coming from someone who HATES chinese overdesigned slop

but tf2 hats? come on senpai who the fuck cares about those nowadays? when was the last time you heard any tf2 player get excited and not actively dreading new hats being added?
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>>574433764
cant fucking launch the game now
gj yoshi you fucking nigger
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>>574433797
>actively dreading new hats being added?
theres a huge dissonance with online discourse around this topic and what you actually see in game. after every new batch of new goyslop cosmetics and unusual effects youll see them flood lobbies. theyre dogshit and people recognize them as such but they stilm buy them
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>>574433797
>actively dreading new hats being added
i can't believe comically evil trannies ruined my favorite game's workshop
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hoyl shit people are retarded at this game literally rrefusing to do mid fucking graves players need to be shot on sight
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>>574428602
god i can only hope eido gets harmed irl you can watch him for 10 mins and see how fake he is don't know how the fuck he got popular
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>half a year since last major content update
thanks yoshi
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>>574434565
it wouldnt be bad if the balance was good there are enough heroes for everyone but they dont know how to balance for shit
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obscurus player in my emissary lobby
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>>574383363
Haze's a hyper carry, not losing lane is winning lane
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>>574434914
>it's near impossible to balance each character for items AND aim AND Source geometry-abusing physics
Who would've thought?
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80% of games are decided at draft
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>>574435412
They could get items pretty close, but its clear whatever dev team they have on deadlock is woefully understaffed relative to demand for the game
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>>574435173
new players start off in emissary games
t. 5 smurfs
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>>574435412
the game before the march update where they buffed everyone for absolutely no reason was good all they had to do was tune the new chars but no let's release a bunch of braindead chars and switch the whole game up then add a new mechanic that we're removing and putting back and removing and putting back and putting a new objective on top of the old objective
they are braindead and work 10 hours per week while getting praised and babied by people like you
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>>574434154
grim

>>574434265
it'll happen to deadlock too as soon as they open the workshop floodgates (and assuming it doesn't get the cord pulled) as well btw
hope you enjoy artstyle destroying particle vomit chinese slop
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>team with better cc abilities wins
i'm tired of reruns
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>>574435697
>hope you enjoy artstyle destroying particle vomit chinese slop
deadlock is already this in teamfights
but yeah, it can get worse
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>>574434565
STOP THE COUNT
STOP THE COUNT

>>574435412
it will never not cease to amuse me how people were able to clock this critical failure in the game's design as soon as they laid their eyes upon it yet valve in their infinite wisdom thought otherwise
how do they not recognize their own shortcomings yet i have zero fucking clue. they KNOW they won't ever do threadmill work. So why the fuck do they keep chasing live service fomo games?
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>>574435806
this is funny but they already addressed this not even a week later and put out a hotfix meanwhile an alpha game can't do any changes and you have to wait months for them :)
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>>574435914
valve operates on valve time please understand :^)
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>>574435806
see the thing is you can still see cap in that picture
i want you to imagine a world in which you can't even see the fucking character standing still behind all the particle vomit. that's the DOTA way baybeeyyyyyy
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>>574435806
Fixed a WEEK after people started complaining btw
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>>574435843
>So why the fuck do they keep chasing live service fomo games?
Well, last time they tried going back to sinple player games Alyx happened, so...
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>>574435806
>but yeah, it can get worse
See, Deadlock team fights are already much worse than this, because Rivals
>doesn't have creeps
>doesn't have souls
>has limited movement freedom
>doesn't have active items
>doesn't have base turrets that shit out effects
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please buff my guy his ult does like 2 points of damage mid-late game
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>>574436625
this hero really does just fall off a cliff when the enemy team buys spirit res
i don't really get why anyone would want to play a hero that's exclusively good in the early game, when most people will say that lane doesn't matter that much
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>>574436730
Lane matters an insane amount IF you play the post laning phase mid game correctly. But most people just jungle or whatever so the lead from laning doesnt translate into map pressure.
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>>574436730
Lane phase decides the mental state of everyone in the game
>lane partner feeds
>turn off mentally and just afk farm
>lose

The only phase thats equally as important is the 25-30 minute mark for mid into ending the game
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>>574429287
if seeing a slur sends them into conniptions why did they turn off steam's built-in slur filter?
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pressing the mute button is too HAAAAARD turning off chat is too HAAAAAARD VALVE I'M HAVING A PANIC ATTACK DO SOMETHING!
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>like a hundred different items
>only like 12 are actually viable
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>>574438901
wait a minute, that reminds me of something...
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>https://statlocker.gg/profile/409233972/matches/94279461/summary
>60k souls
>41k damage
its almost like xqc was boosted by someone hmm yep NA e6 is rlly good
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2 GAMES IN A ROW WITH OBSCURUS TEAMMATES THANK YOU YOSHI FOR BLESSING ME WITH THIS GARBAGE EMISSARY RANK AFTER 400 GAMES THEN PUTITNG ME THROUGH A FUCKING TORTURE CHAMBER
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>>574439110
If you're not playing as a 6 stack then you're not actually "competitive" so your rank doesn't matter.
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>>574421216
It's upsetting how accurate this is, though it's more designated retardS. One person can sometimes be worked around. Two is completely hopeless. I have found that playing a character with a big KILL THESE IDIOTS IN PARTICULAR ult can help in these instances. So Lash, Dynamo, Infernous but that still necessitates the retards being somewhere near the fight.
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>>574439065
>NA e6 is rlly good
amerimutts can't into pro play
this is relevant in pretty much any e-sports game
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>>574436625
>stuns you from the other side of the map
nerf this faggot to the fucking ground already
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>>574439963
>stuns you with superior duration
>two guaranteed heavy melees
>does it again 4 seconds later because witchmail
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>>574440327
>has bullet resist + point blank
>takes 0 melee damage
+ you are stationary for like 3 seconds when you do 2 heavy melees, making you an easy target for the entire enemy team
melee apollo sucks
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my wife
https://www.twitch.tv/juniedl
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So why the fuck did melee creeps just split off, what happened, any knowers?
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>how strong is rem
1
>how strong is battle vest
1
>how fun is it to play against warden
1
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trooniday barrels killing all your momentum when you get hit is so epic and fun and balanced
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kill all mcginnis players (in real life)
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It feels like after 30 minutes getting into wolf form with Silver is impossible even if I was ahead before that point. Her pea shooter just stops doing damage
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>>574441147
the deido heresy
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>>574440702
cute voice for a troon
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why am i seeing Gun Yamato every other game, did some eceleb make a video
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>>574442064
The amount of damage you need uo pop ult scales a lot harder with level than her damage output. The hero falls off like a brick and is honestly not that good early unless you play against retards.
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https://www.twitch.tv/wawawawarabi
wonder if this is a dude with a voicechanger...
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return fire should have a passive which increase the damage it returns the more you get shot. up to 200%
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win trading at e4 lobby EU
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Now that the "pros" have started to complain and theyre the only people yoshi listen to, are they finally going to fix the game?
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>>574441749
I love troonator ult just rooting you and killing all momentum with each shot totally makes sense!!
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>>574393031
holy shit two cakes
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>>574441749
Buy debuff resist unc
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Cant believe valve didnt patch haze dagger stacks out before the weekend what the fuck data are they trying to collect with this nonsense? Yeah wow when you mega buff haze she has a high win rate, glad we needed that experimentally confirmed
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>>574441147
>it's real
kek. probably immature reactions to sharing 1st place with the other NA team but that's really fucking good so it makes no logical sense to be upset that you don't automatically win against the other top dogs

NA players are low IQ high estrogen with no work ethic it's why the region struggles to ever gain success in esports
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>>574443649
>skillshot ult with 150 sec cd and only 3 shots
>normal ability on 10 sec cooldown giant aoe 6 charges
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i bought veil walker once and now i cannot stop buying it, such a good fucking item
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>early alpha game in constant development

Expectations
>characters and balance broken constantly
>nightly updates, tweaks and changes

>Reality
>characters and balance broken constantly
>biannual updates
>monthly updates, tweaks and changes
>Hawaii vacations for devs
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I can't think of a game where tank items feel more useless than Deadlock
>Spend 32k souls for the privilege of dying in 0.5s instead of 0.3!
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They should add a melee item that disables stamina use and silences movement abilities when you melee enemies.
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people will play deadlock like this and ask me 'why do you afk games'
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>Forced 50/50 isn't real bro
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>>574444032
doesn't change the fact that it makes literally zero fucking sense for a piercing bolt to ground you and kill momentum completely. it should do the opposite in fact.
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>>574444879
I had a retard make fun of me for only having like 4k damage done 12m in on a support with an inventory full of utility/heals
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i need to get out of emissary i cant stand playing with these bots they're worst than people in arcanist
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Haze players are such an anomaly they think they're actually good which is hilarious
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Wraith needs a high quality custom skin because I'm tired of playing as a fucking nigger sheboon.
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>>574447151
Don't look on the mirror then <3
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>>574445865
Its like that all the way to ascendant dude, archon is the base camp of mount egoshitter
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>>574447417
nah these guys are literally new players that get put in emissary its complete dogshit territory games are decided by lottery before it starts no one takes mid boss, people die 7 times in lane, no one split pushes past the mid point
i literally watch like lvl 10 infernus (with no monster or cultist) hitting t3 neutrals over walking 10m to crash the wave into their walker
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signs the game will be an uphill battle
>people on your team don't look at the map and let you die 30 meters away from them while you're ganking the person that was harassing them
>teammate doesn't understand power dynamics and tells you the Wraith that is 20k souls ahead of your team's average can be stopped with some bullet res
>viscoos on your team
all happened to me in the last 5 games...
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March patch was shit and ruined the game. Game was in a decent spot they just needed to reign in the new heroes. But some chucklefuck decided that if every fucking character in the game is annoying as fuck to play against then no one is. I HATE this balance philosophy. Everything since then is just cumming on a pile of poop
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>>574444492
it's okay when valve does it anon.
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>>574447676
>Waves crash into two walkers at once, people rotate to clear them then instantly leave the lane, not even staying in the jungle nearby
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>>574422890
>>574423728
if the ability didn't actually get cast you didn't interrupt it, you prevented it from being used.
if you interrupt or cancel the cast point it wasn't cast, you need to actually interrupt it after its been used

for example you can't interrupt pocket ult, because despite having a cast time, the actual effect is instant, so once its cast, its already done, you can't ever stop it being used.
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Boy I sure do love playing support ivy and being forced to lane janny
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Why does the tier 3 Bebop bomb give you some useless speed and debuff resistance instead of something cool like letting you detonate it at will by pressing 2 again.
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>>574450636
Just press 4 and win a teamfight on the opposite lane for free.
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>>574450636
Well?
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>>574450636
Same thing happens with me and Rem.
I basically get to a point where I'll purposefully ignore walkers to force a reaction from my teamates and if it doesn't, then we weren't going to win anyways and I was unlucky to match with knuckle draggers
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>>574451079
2
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>>574451079
6
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>>574451079
1, you can just run away and let her push you below your walker.
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>>574451437
>push below walker
no doubt you are doing this
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>>574450902
all of his abilities are the worst ones in the game other than hook
if anything they should just remove hook so his other 3 skills are allowed to be useful
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>>574451079
2 in the hands of anyone that isn't a pro
3 if you're a top 0.00001% player
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>>574451079
If you don't press 5 Vegas will have another cry session on stream, please be considerate.
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The "lol just walk away" argument with Silver is exactly the same as it was with Victor months ago when he was unkillable and downplayers pretended running away and giving him all your farm and objectives was a strategy.
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>the guy saying "useless shit" to me after he gets ganked by haze for the 9th time
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if she's so broken play her yourself
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The playerbase is declining slowly and the community still claims heroes are gay and pic related. Since there no line of any hero claming they are hetero, heroes like Mina, Silver and Lash are clearly gay. Same people can't take a bad word even with filters on.
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>>574451079
4 but the type of person who actually wants to play Silver makes it a 2 half the time
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>>574452117
I only play honest heroes.
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>>574451079
4 in the hands of an average player
5 in the hands of an E6
1 in the hands of a /dlg/ anon
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>Pop metal skin
>Silver can't do anything
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>>574451929
>no green spike
>no metal skin
>all glass cannon
>complains when he dies super fast
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>>574451929
Something about Infernus attracts the stupidest fucking people possible to playing him
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>>574452324
She outwaits cuck skin and oneshots you.
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>"Just buy X for busted faggot nigger character"
>Buy X
>Busted faggot nigger character now gets hindered for 0.05 seconds before still killing me
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>>574452587
>She outwaits cuck skin in human form
nope
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>>574452587
>i'll just wait for this cu- ACK!
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>>574452603
It do be like dat

Thats why I just buy damage items and dont bother with cuck utility shit.
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>>574450636
>forced
Fuck you mean forced? That's my favourite part
You just throw one kudzu bomb and the wave's yours
CA$H
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>>574451079
1 unless you're playing against retarded m1ggers, then she's 3
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Silencer should be replaced with something that shrinks ability range
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Why don't more people pick Ivy? I started playing her and it's crazy the impact you can have just by simply using your kit. Every couple of games I save a retard past the 30min mark balls deep in the enemy base alone that would've handed them a free midboss had he died.
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>>574450636
>support
this is not dota you worthless scum sucking shitter

do damage or fuck off
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Is deadlock tranny coded?
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>>574453732
no, but you are so you see it everywhere
its a (you) problem
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>>574453550
because she fucking sucks
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>>574451079
I'd give her a tentative 3 all up
If we were to count her power of attraction in 'powerful', easy 5
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>>574453689
retard
i climbed to asc spamming supp ivy and supp is still a big thing even amongst eternoids and nigshifters
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>>574453282
Supports typically dont need as many souls compared to carries.
If I have more souls than our carries while playing support, I already know its going to either be a loss or an incredibly drawn out game.
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>>574453689
ivy does healing while doing damage retard-kun
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Why do they keep nerfing split pushing when everyone can already dash across the map in 12 seconds?
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>>574454098
That's not what I know when I get fat on supp
What I know is I'm gonna do so many vortex echo gargass slam combos
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disarming hex and supressor need t4 upgrades
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>>574453689
>my paige giving me 1100 HP shields and massive weapon damage/fire rate buffs and rescue beaming me out of trouble and mass stunning/healing like 8 people and knocking down the flier and rooting 3 people and cursing the enemy carry is useless because...
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>>574451168
>pick a support hero I don't normally play to try expand my hero pool and be a more flexible
>instantly get the no comms passive shitter team that just rolls over at 10 minutes and gives up walkers for t2 camps
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>>574454689
*kills paige* (euls and glimmer cape aren't in the game*
what now
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>>574452223
>1 in the hands of a /dlg/ anon
apologize
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>>574451079
>tell friend to play silver because he has really good mechanics outside of movement and he likes to dive
>2 months later
>friend tells me he was in a game as silver where he was owning but he lost
>he says this a few times a week
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>>574452446
vegas in a nut shell
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>>574455085
Silver wins fights, not games. Therefore she's OP according to retards with overblown egos and underpowered according to people that actually want to win.
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>>574453817
Yeah, she fucking sucks... me off!
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>>574456360
Her mouth is made of rock
I'm highly doubtful that's anything but horribly painful for you
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>>574456898
why are you such a faggot all the time
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>>574457346
For the sole and singular purpose of slightly annoying you for a brief moment
It's all led up to this
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Kill every haze player
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Oh look, Vegas is back at it again.

It's almost like complaining means nothing when you have no balls to do anything else with your life.
Twitch is such a loser factory it's actually impressive.
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>>574452159
this is the surest sign that deadlock succeeded us grabbing players from riot vidya
lol and valorant are some of the most heavily moderated multiplayer games on the planet
the irony is that the heavier the moderation got the more toxic the games became because in the past (like in 2015~ when i played lol semi regularly) if someone was mad at you they would just call you a retard
now if someone gets mad at you they follow you around griefing while typing stuff like "im just a girl" or ":3" to try and bait you into using one of the thousands of unforgivable zero tolerance instaban words
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>make a 4fun alt to play with a seeker friend and funplay heroes I suck shit on
>ludokino shitshow ritualist lobbies
>go 5 3
>ORACLE 2
>win 1 game by stomping ritualist tards
>oracle 3
Yoshi is a retarded shitnigger eating tranny and if they don't do a full reset once the fabled matchmaking update comes out AND split queues to ranked/unranked the game will die before it comes out of "closed alpha"
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>>574458453
>game detects im smurfing and ranks me accordingly
>here's me being obsessed with trannies and porn
uhh cool post i guess
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>>574458453
you should legit be put in initiate no matter what i dont care if you're donk and yatoro combined with eido coaching you
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>>574458530
The stats weren't even good and if you think sub 10 game accounts should be sniffing anywhere close to oracle (unless they're dropping 30 kills every game or something) in a proper healthy rank system you're a fucking retard, suffer eternally
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>enemy team loses two shrines because shiv wants to stop me from taking their sinner in the room with the two medium creeps but I'm victor so I kill 3 people on his team instead
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>>574457830
>AIIIIIEEEEEE YOU VILL HAVE NO PATCH
>AND YOU VILL BE HAPPY
nigger why would you want to the loudest fags to be sucking Yoshi off and saying this content update schedule is fine
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>>574458453
Binah would never do this.
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>>574458453
this image but lady geist
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>>574456898
If her 3 is called Stone Form it means that her regular form has smooth insides and a lubricated pussy.
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>>574457830
What's that retard doing now? Or do you just mean he's back despite having that embarrassing crash out yesterday?

Like you got all these retards complaining about the state of the game and they just continue to play it. It's doesn't even matter if their complaints are valid, why play if the game is bad?
Oh right, because that prissy little fuck doesn't have anywhere else to go. No other games to play. No friends, no connections.
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>"yeah i'm going pillow rem, what of it?"
>"tell me how going pillow rem is a problem"
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>>574459464
and who did you play my friend?
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>"I'm still waiting for you to tell me how it's a problem"
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Etheral Shit or Shit Death on Victor?
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queue times are getting so long are people actually leaving the gaem?
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>guys on your team suck absolute shit and are passive all game and do nothing and wind up with the same damage as supports while playing shit like wraith/apollo
>they proceed to get handed an engagement match for losing and are now on the enemy team and 3 retards on your team each go 2-16
worst feeling in the world. matchmaking update fucking when. 80% of the people at eternus don't even belong in the bracket. this is supposed to be top tier gameplay and it's horrendous dog shit.
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>>574459721
>>574459464
>that name
thats a dbd player that 100% has some shit playing on their other monitor and is in a discord call
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>>574453550
Her whole gimmick resolves around saving 1 retard and buffing your allies so if your whole team is retarded you're just fucked. I did use to play her when I started but I haven't recently.
>>574444879
Dude you ended the game with 20k damage you didn't do shit
>>574459736
Cheat Death is only viable on Movement characters except it fucking isn't if anyone has DOT. I Though ES was ass but I played an incredibly tight match where we were about to win and the ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM used it. Victor keeps aura channel so its busted on him.
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>>574459793
you would be insane not to
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>>574460234
Im not dooming btw I just waited 7 minutes for a game on a Saturday night wtf? I have Holliday Para and Ivy selected maybe thats why
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Is silver now a contested pick in matchmaking? I ALWAYS get Silver
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I'm looking through this thread because I like this game and there's so many posts saying this game has gone to shit it's FUCKING FLOPPED
but it's unreleased having public beta for only 2 years lol.
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>just hit 1000 hrs
>was in emissary, now down to seeker
>unable to climb, only derank

Am I just retarded?
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>>574458453
>smurf detection works
fuck valve they're ruining the game
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What's the deal with some pro team disbanding?
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>>574460778
Its akshually a playtest where they "test" things out every month.
>>574460876
Ive fallen down to arcanist. dont care anymore. goodluck trying to climb with retardo on your team going 20 deaths feeding the enemy shiv/billy/mirage/etc
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>>574460876
Nah, due to the dropping number of players, MMR decay is in effect. If you play solo, you will invariably lose ranks, and partying up is the only way to progress.
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>>574461143
>>574461184
I wish I didnt care about ranks/losing as much. Somehow it always feels like a personal reflection.
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>>574461426
This guy >>574439065 is eternus
It doesn't mean jack shit aside from how much free time you have and any friends to play with
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>>574398045
>This unironically is trannylock. But why?
sajam and deathy, unironically
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>>574461184
Half true, solo does not ensure you fall but it does ensure that you have tons of variances and may need 5000 games to hit the law of large numbers and converge to your true rank
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>>574461045
Smurf detection creates false positives which is why some guy with 7 games he lucked into winning is 0-18 in your team
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>>574461045
It also means this guy
>>574460876
Is forever stuck because the system is “certain” of his rank and requires 40 win streak to recalibrate
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>>574398045
because there hasn't been a real patch for literally more than 7 months? the devs are working on other stuff or just lazy
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>>574459464
>>574459721
were you playing as the lash?
be honest now
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>>574460430
>>574460234
I waited 8 minutes for this lmao I hate this game so much
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such a stale game I don’t even feel bad about smurfing
I made pge drop the game until new patch, and I hope that more shitlow niggas will so these retarded mongoloid devs actually do some work for the game
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I literally only play this game when I have literally nothing else to do Its just noy enjoyable it feels like doing heroin after 900 times of doing it I just play it when there's nothing better to do the game felt more balanced in 2024 somehow with insta heal unkillable richochet Infernus and Insta kill Bullet Dance and unkillable Warden and One shot Kinetic Carbine how can that be
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>"we are trying to get the matchmaking update out in a few weeks to allow for a little time to stabilize things before the content update is ready."
>it has been a few weeks since this was said
draftbros... it's imminent.
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>>574463045
>draft
Not happening.
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>>574459081
It'd be kind of blissful if, instead of working on balance changes that make the meta impossible to gauge every two weeks or so, they should instead focusing on polishing the shitty ass artstyle and trying to improve the map more. everything looks butt ugly
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>>574463045
just 2 more weeks :^)
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>>574463045
I guarantee the matchmaking update will make the game 10x worse and they'll have to walk it back
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>>574463045
matchmaking update will
>be 1 week late (july 29th)
>change nothing
>make people incredibly upset
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>>574463142
>game has been rendered unplayable in the last dozen patches, and the only thing that can save it is a major content update
>"thanks for the feedback, it will be ignored now!"
what did yoshijeet and volvo mean by this
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>reverts the game back to its state before the march update
>adds another lane
Ughhh WHY DO I FIX EVERYTHING I TOUCH!?
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>March update was when they gave wraith her cards
dear god hes right
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between the awful balance of characters like pocket, mirage, geist, wraith, doorman, etc just being allowed to do whatever they want for months now with no actual changes and the matchmaking being worse with every "matchmaking change" i stopped playing a week ago. please fix your fucking game you H1b hired faggot
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>>574422319
dangerously stupid opinion
kill yourself
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>>574463834
before the march update the only character i would have said were unbalanced were celeste and apollo. the game was in the best state its ever been and they blew it up for literally no reason
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>>574463045
theyre putting money on jumping between which ai model builds the next shitty match making system
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>>574460778
technically the first game did flop, its why we have deadlock
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>>574460778
well it'd be kinda bad for your soon-to-be-monetizable game to go down the gutter in player count before anything can get started, even if it's in alpha or beta.
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how does dlg feel about the meet your rift update
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at what elo does muting all other 11 players become detrimental to my gameplay? currently doing it every game at ascendant 3
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>>574464757
snowballock, and cclock is so fun guys
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>>574464085
old hero 1tricks were so mentally ill and begged quite loudly for buffs because they saw what the new heroes got. Their playerbases are genuinely full of tarblack niggerbaboon subhumans almost on par with silver downplayer population
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>>574464757
I actually kind of like it, maybe if the area was bigger it would be better. Right now I feel like the moment I step in I get melted 9 times out of 10.
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I would like to apologize to Return Fire, I think the item is severely underrated right now as long as the enemy has some gun dmg. It's also quite disgusting on Victor (but maybe that's just the character).
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>>574465098
apology NOT accepted, its been getting nerfed before time itself.
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>>574463834
>>574463587
>>574464085
March update shit the game up so god damn bad it’s unreal. Shit shit shit. All they had to so was fix the characters they had just recently added and by fix I mean severely fucking nerf. Celeste appollo graces and dumbass silver all needed to be taken out back and fucking shot. Do they do that? No. They make every other character in the game just as aids or in a lot of cases just plain worse to play against. What happened to the idea of “is this thing fun to play against? No? Then we change it for the better”
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truth is you dont want to be higher rank, all high rank players dont even want to play in high rank so they make smurfs because they want to play with awesome people like you (not because theyre ass or because they cant handle high pressure games) they just prefer to "chill" while blowing out 25/0/12

but ah such as match making.. not a personal people problem haha
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Please do not engage with the march schizo, it only emboldens him
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>>574465418
it's because they wanted every char to be braindead and more accessible that's why chars like holliday vyper sinclair weren't touched in the march update they're the hard ones that require more finesse to work with
you can see how much thought they put in hollidays changes lmfao, went from C tier to S tier to C tier
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>>574465418
That was never the idea. Deadlock's intent was to make every character relatively overpowered, when compared to other games of its genre, much in the same vein that Dota 2 does, because it's the same lead designer (IceFrog = Yoshi).
The March update happened because they strayed too much from this initial vision. It was for the better.
However, clearly some of the team couldn't help but insert their biases into some character buffs and nerfs as patches went on.
Now I think we need another patch of that caliber, much better done this time, if they've learned anything.
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>>574464863
>"buff"
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT
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>>574465723
what could possibly lead you to believe that the devs have learned anything between march and now
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my 7 most recent posts on the forums have gotten 0 views. I don't understand the point of giving feedback when they don't even read it in the first place
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>>574465723
Seeing them rework the game several times while giving Dynamo the most lowest decimal changes possible for a time was really funny though
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>>574465098
its literally only good in these hyper specific scenarios:

1: the enemy is a venator or vyper and you are equal or higher networth

2. the enemy is a haze without t5 ult

3. the enemy is a wraith and is currently being affected by atleast 60% anti heal
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>>574465929
dark seer of deadlock
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>>574465723
yeah and we see where that philosophy got them with dota. a dead game in every country except 3rd world shitholes
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my favorites
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>>574466128
lasting almost 12+ years bro generating today's standard of prize pool money for esports. they pioneered the whole thing and it worked. we have like 40 something boring characters vs a game that had 100+. till deadlock gets 100+ characters, it will be a shitty game
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>>574465871
>devs give a hero some small to reasonable buffs
>oh my hecking god yoshirino these buffs do almost nothing!
>they do it again next patch
>YOSHI! I fucking told you I want my hero to be SSS+++ tier are you even fucking listening?
>they overbuff the hero on the third patch (the hero has already gone up 2 tiers from their previous rounds of buffs)
>AIIEEEEEEEEE POWER CREEP YOURE RUINING THE GAME AND I CANT EVEN PLAY MY HERO ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS PICKED AND BANNED
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>>574466359
>who cares about the players look at how much money it made
valve fanboys are crazy
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>>574466359
i could put up a $1 million for eating the dump i took earlier. doesnt make it good
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>>574466128
>dota2 has been averaging 700k-1mill players for the past 7 years in a niche genre
>dead game
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>>574466608
now remove the south american and slavs from the playerbase. you get like 5000 players lmao
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>>574466608
and how many of those "players" are whites and not 3rd worlders and russians?
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>>574466608
there is 0 discussion about dota anywhere the playerbase is all in russia and sea
league of legends won, the EUNE region has more players during a random hour than dotas peak
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silver won
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>>574422398
It's crazy how bad of a player you can be and still get an audience all because you're NA. Which is why NA scene will always be a joke the players aren't there to be the best. They're there to get enough fame to coast on a streaming career.
>>574465418
They saw all the normgroids flock to the game and decided they're going to continue make things more appealing to them but normgroids only listen to streamers so I don't know what retarded faggot dev thought this was a good idea.
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>>574466480
the crux of the argument was that icefrog/yoshi's design philosophy lead to a dead game. pointing out not only is it not dead by any standard but it has been commercially successful and still is commercially successful isn't "fanboying" it's just stating an observable fact.
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>>574466359
Except deadlock is a 3rd person movement shooter and not a top down moba. This really isn’t a game that needs super whacky oh man this is so aids tier characters when they’re are several extra layers of mechanics that severely change how a moba is played
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>>574466480
i played the game and enjoyed my time from beta to now, i dont see the isuse. now im on deadlock ready to move on like icefrog.
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>>574466925
>this really isnt a game that needs -

moron go back to rivals or ow2
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>>574466761
irrelevant if the argument is about the game being dead or not, which was the original claim
>>574466797
see above response
>>574466823
won what? a contest you made up in your own head over which game has the larger player base? who cares; if X person wants to play dota they'll play dota. if Y person wants to play LoL they'll play LoL.
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bro saves all this fetish porn images and acts like pseud lmao
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The shit balance could be excused if every single fucking game didnt have a feeding moron in it every single game its not "oh everyone did equal amounts of value! we all came through!" nope there's always gonna be one and if there's two you fucking lost unless you're playing Victor who can carry the entire game (at low enough elo) who gives a shit about "woooahhh wraith dood wraith is so op" fuck that stop giving me fucking 0 and 12 russian hazes
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not an argument and I accept your concession
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>>574466908
Successful globally? Hasn’t been for some time. Successful in markets where the average person makes 300-500 dollars a month and their entire life fucking sucks shit so they are more in tune with being shit on and oh, also a FREE game? Yes certainly
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gaming "news" sites, dlg, and d2g got the announcement that icefrog has LEFT dota 2 for deadlock so obviously the game is in whatever state it is in now. people split, hanged up the hat, or still gurgling the same food expecting something different despite knowing nothing is coming.
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>>574466823
This whole discussion is retarded
>no, it's not about popularity, it's about the quality of the players
>no, it's not about the players, it's about how good the game "objectively" is
>no, it's not about how good the game is, it's about how much money it makes
you niggers don't know what you're arguing about.
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>>574467126
Been here since 2024 1k players and have watched this game get worse and worse.
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reminder

>>574375962#
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>>574444492
>>574448381
You guys remember this game is completely free, right?
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>>574464757
It's fine simply because the game needed more than one objective other than running the fucking urn.

Still holding out hope they go for the Kirby Air Ride direction and just make a random objective even spawn every x minutes instead of just the rift.
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>HotS
>pick which hero you want to play
>LoL
>pick which hero you want to play
>DotA
>pick which hero you want to play
>Smite
>pick which hero you want to play
>HoN
>pick which hero you want to play
>Vainglory
>pick which hero you want to play
>AoV
>pick which hero you want to play
>Overwatch
>pick which hero you want to play

>Deadlock
>"ermmmm uhmmmmm let's have an arbitrary fvcking lottery system that decides if you get to play the heroes you want to play - and if not, well... lawl ecks dee xdddd x33333"
these fvcking developers are heedless contrarians i swear to the Archmother this game is one giant pisstake designed solely to grief people
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>>574431969
they just added like three heroes to that shit mode, no one cared. It was a complete waste of dev time, the only reason they tried it is because they wanted a third person mode to sell skins like marvel rivals.
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>>574467584
>your time is completely free
Good for you, but mine isn't.
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>>574467634
>playing warioware mini games every 5 minutes
Kino…
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>>574467367
again the crux of the argument was whether or not dota 2 is a dead game. every emotional nigger here keeps trying to move goal posts or make up invisible rules to skirt around the truth.

I'll let you all in on a secret: you can dislike the game for whatever reason(s) and at the same time acknowledge it's objectively not a dead game. both can be true.
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>>574467584
They're probably actively losing money from this. The fact we get to mass playtest it with ZERO monetization is enough indication that they care about making this game GOOD before they care about generating money, which they 100% could be doing with it right now if they wanted to.
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>>574467584
Why dont you get butt raped, its free after all
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>>574467787
walk away from the screen nigga, close your eyes, lmaoooooo
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>the enemy team will get 2 carries, 2 frontliners, and 2 utility/support/pick heroes
>your team? uuhhh 3 utility, 2 frontliners, and a sinclair who has never played this hero before :)
and they decided to make every game ranked for no reason 2 years ago when the matchmaking was WORSE. they are just asking for grief
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>>574467813
I see where you’re coming from. I just don’t agree with you considering the markets the game is popular in. It seems to your underlying argument is something like “the game is popular in 3rd world markets, so that makes the game good or design elements infallible”.
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>>574467787
Then stop playing if you're not having fun. You just look like a retard crying about the devs for a game nobody has paid a dime for taking a vacation and comparing it to a crowdfunded scam.
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>>574467752
It really wasn’t something they could just slap together as a side mode, it would take way more balancing then they cared to do
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>>574466262
>yamato remodel
Fake fan
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>>574467813
you misunderstand i dont consider slavs or south americans people so "large number is alive" means nothing
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>>574467872
You did forget, didn't you?
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>>574467809
Nah but really imagine.

>Rift spawns somewhere on the map, creating KOTH fight for souls
Already in
>A rat NPC with a big sack spawns on the map, players chase it around and through tunnels and when you shoot it it releases souls, with the final hit that kills it releasing a shitload of souls and upgrades
Amazing
>A pit opens in a secret room beneath the side lanes that allows teams to send in a teamate for a 1v1. Whoever wins the 1v1 allows their team to enhance one item (800 early game, 1600/3200 mid, 6400 late)
Kino
>Fog creeps over the city making sight difficult and strange powerful neutral monsters roam around. They're strong and encourage teammates to team up and hunt them down and fight them for big rewards, but you might run across the enemy team as well...
great.
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>>574467868
saying they're "actively losing money" while technically true is still being disingenuous. the game is isn't a commercial product yet so it's being "invested" into, and selling mtx in a game that's still technically in an alpha state would be a bad look.
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>>574429731
>>574429859
>>574431359
This is literally why they removed bunnyhopping from counterstrike. deadlock movement is 1000x gayer than bunnyhopping ever was though. You literally have to be a zoomer on adderall to play this game well. Aiming barely matters, movement matters more than anything else for the top players.
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The game is free. Free for me to troll my games.
Trolling > Winning
I love making people mad in this game and with the lax moderation I can stir people up with slurs. Shit is so cash way better than any other modern multiplayer slop.
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>>574465990
It's basically a no brainer for me as a 3rd or 4th item if I'm laning against Graves. Also it's "only" a T2 item, the bang for your buck is very good as a frontliner until at least 20-25 minutes of game time.
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>>574468043
invisible rule + putting words into my mouth.
>>574468176
invisible rule. don't care.
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>>574468361
They removed bunnyhopping because CS is explicitly supposed to be a slower and more grounded game. Deadlock has air dashes and vents that send you flying across the map by default.
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why is dlg the only place that can't make Silver work? even she/her can do it
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>>574468565
>no armpit hair
Messy unwashed bitch but she's always groomed like a pornstar? Yeah fuck off
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>>574468662
>street brawl
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>>574468662
Biological wöman?
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>>574468696
ew i'd throw that shit right out the window nasty fucking bitch
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>>574468410
>buying a counter item against the weakest gun in the game
the only time return fire is good while simultaneously being a pointless purchase
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>>574468720
those are very clearly standard games. you can't see the scoreline from brawl matches
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street brawl is better than the normal mode until the metafagniggers show up
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>>574468565
cared enough to double reply lol
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>>574468696
don't worry her crotch is still an absolute rainforest of hair with a trail that goes up to her navel
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>>574468847
>This mode is better until people actually try to play it
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>>574468992
>picking characters that are hilariously overpowered and also play the game themselves
>playing the game
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>>574468813
It's to destroy the skulls while you're busy shooting at her. If she goes spirit the skulls are neutralized, if she goes gun she's going to hurt herself shooting at you. It's very effective.
I've also had some side effects while using the item, as long as I get a tiny bit of a lead some people will stop shooting at me and flee once I pop Return Fire.
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>>574469042
Yes, they are in fact part of the game and picking them is playing.
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The game was only good when the dev team was coming here for feedback. Also when the game was on timers for it being playable. Then they started to suck off streamers and the enshittification began.
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>>574469043
or you could just light melee the skulls and save the souls and inventory space for FREE
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>>574469192
>the dev team was coming here for feedback
I literally cannot think of a worse place to get feedback from.
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>>574468361
what's the problem? movement in deadlock is just an evolve form of Quake. there is a reason why its staying and why so many uncs at valve like the movement in deadlock.
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what have you guys been playing while waiting for the next REAL update
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>>574468847
street brawl is fun until the enemy gets a paige seven or victor then its just boring
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>>574468798
which means she's being carried by simps so she can fuck around on silver and pretend she's contributing
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Typing a slur into chat should immediately ban your account. There is no excuse. Reasonable people can disagree about how long that ban should be, or if you should be allowed to come back at all (you shouldn't), but there is absolutely no excuse for this.
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>>574469340
twilight princess
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>>574453550
They ruined her by moving literally all of her power into the permanent vine connection, then when they saw how retardedly OP that was, they further nerfed all of her other abilities, and when it was still OP they giganerfed the vine connection so now she's just terrible all across the board, when she used to be really fun and strong. I love devs who don't play their own game!
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>>574469340
Minecraft
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>>574469295
as opposed to getting their feedback from their streamers, which are all made up of people like metro who couldn't cut it in other more faggier games like OW?
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>>574468662
I do make her work though.
Shes a good character but she isn't S+++ megahitler. The only reason it looks like people downplay Silver is because others upplay her to a comical degree.
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>>574469408
niggers
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>>574469197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rao7LN6SBeQ&t=3s
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Anyone who thinks we don't need draft mode should try playing Vindicta into heros like Bebop that can invalidate your entire gimmick by pressing a button.
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>>574469340
jerking off to milf bots with SillyTavern
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man fuck this nigger matchmaking
the team compositions are completely retarded
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>>574469340
romancing saga 3 and rimworld. as soon as the new Path of Exile league releases I'll be playing that.
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dead game
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>>574469340
Marvel rivals and lucio ball in overwatch
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>>574469918
7 minutes only for you to get the most dogshit game in the world that makes you regret not playing something else this game has to have hands down the worst matchmaking out of literally any game in existence
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Gut splatter
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>>574470027
how can you stomach marvel rival's matchmaking? it's even worse than deadlock's
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>>574469340
I'm waiting for Quasimorph 1.0 the 31st. We still won't have the update by then anyway.
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>>574464863
>>574466474
This is actually so true and you can see it in all the retarded T3 upgrades they buffed.
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY MAKE DOORMAN ULT HAVE A 13 SECOND COOLDOWN?
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY MAKE POCKET ULT BLOCK ALL HEALING?
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY MAKE WARDEN CAGE PERMA SILENCE?
THEY MOVED ALL POWER INTO EXTREMELY OBNOXIOUS AND ANTIFUN T3 UPGRADES
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>marvel rivals
cannot understand why people install CCP software on their machines
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>>574469572
>as opposed to getting their feedback from their streamers
I imagine the average streamer is genuinely more knowledgeable about this game than the average retard on here purely because they actually play it and at a level beyond alchemist.
>which are all made up of people like metro who couldn't cut it in other more faggier games like OW?
I don't understand how this is supposed to refute anything like 99% of this general isn't certainly utter dogshit at every game they play.
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>>574470334
CCP isnt trying to replace me.
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>>574470539
who do you think funds the people that are?
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I have never won Street Brawl with Mina.
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>>574470323
>WHY THE FUCK DID THEY MAKE DOORMAN ULT HAVE A 13 SECOND COOLDOWN?
Bitching about this right here is the biggest shitter check.
Getting out of the baroness is legit the easiest thing ever. If you fail at it you deserve to go right back in.
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>>574470579
Unironically Silicon Valley and AIPAC
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i only /brawl/
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why yes i did pick silver again
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>>574470650
>he plays at an elo where the doorman doesn't put 14 debuffs on you ruining all your stamina and chainstunning you for the entire baron duration
outed yourself.
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>>574471040
im sorry my queen i lost one game and one game was stolen by a 0-9 obscurus player
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>>574470367
>I imagine the average streamer is genuinely more knowledgeable about this game than the average retard on here purely because they actually play it and at a level beyond alchemist.

they may be more knowledgeable about the game but they're also waaaay more self interested in their tiny bubble of 200-400~ players. in other words the streamers for this game don't give a fuck how their dumbass suggestions affect the other 99.9% of the game's population and by extension they don't give a fuck if they run the game into the ground as long as they get what they want.

>I don't understand how this is supposed to refute anything like 99% of this general isn't certainly utter dogshit at every game they play.

what is your argument here? if this general and 4chan didn't exist the top streamers for deadlock would still be shitty players that aren't worth listening to when it comes to game balance. that's my point.
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>>574471152
>doorman not timing ult for after the enemy has used their stamina
lol
lmao even
maybe in pisslow
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>>574471152
>having stamina when entering the door realm
must be nice
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>>574471152
>A bunch of movement tranny bullshit
>Having full stamina when doorman ults you
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>>574471087
I'm eternus 4 so almost certainly better than your dogass. At my elo doormans are maxing ult last because t3 ult isn't good. I would like to see it buffed to where the doorman can recast it on the same target within like 10 seconds if they fail to escape. Repeat until they do.

Last time I checked only way you cannot get out (without movement abilities) is if you have zero stam, knockdown and slowing hex. Otherwise its literally always escapable.
Still can't do it? Buy warp stone. Congrats.
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Just had a match where everyone was on the same page and the team was acting in complete harmony that it will hurt to queue another match, knowing I will not experience this in another 100+ matches.
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>went from Eternus 2 back to Phantom 6 since the march 6th update
Honestly, I'm boosted but at the same time a lot of the losses I had were because I wasn't playing an m1 carry. For example when I was playing Seven and Ivy I was winning almost every game I would end a Saturday 6-1. But then I discovered Lash, and while you can carry on him if the enemy team is stupid. If they're not stupid then he relies heavily on his team to help create an opening because of the amount of counter items there are for him.
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>>574398045
No boobs.
Unironically if you want your game to attract trannies just make all your women have no tits. Western devs are absolutely afraid of putting breasts in their games so trannies flock to them.
It's why Silver and Celeste are the #1 tranny magnets.
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>>574470323
>The doorman changes
Honestly I would've been fine with just the gun piercing
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>>574471424
>only two heroes on the map
>testing tools in the corner
stupid nigger
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>>574471424
>use all your stamina when you know doorman is around
>get baronessed and cant escape
>get mad
do you also get mad when you heavy melee and get parried?
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>win lane basically solo
>leave lane for my gun warden
>he constantly dies solo mid game, lowest net
>tells me im bad
>i end mvp
>check his cs, its 77, bottom 3 in the game
brother the fuck did you even do
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>>574471863
>tfw even fortnite and overwatch have more boobs than deadlock
Valve needs to get with the times, or get left behind.
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>>574472141
same rank as me btw
yeah nice valve
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>>574472081
>do you also get mad when you heavy melee and get parried?
What an odd question. Do you get happy when you get parried? Because that's what your dumbfuck question implies.
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>>574472297
brown zoomer hands typed this
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>>574472368
I accept your concession.
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>>574472297
>I get mad when I do a misplay and the enemy punishes it
Cool so you just belong in shitlow
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>>574472450
>I get happy when I do a misplay and the enemy punishes it
Cool so you will never improve out of your shitlow rank. At least you're happy down there!
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>>574472679
no, I actually reflect and improve, which is why I'm e6 and you aren't
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>>574472679
brown zoomer hands typed this
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>>574472297
>>574472679
brown zoomer hands typed this
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>>574470195
it's literally not? rivals doesn't let eternus queue with initiates
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>>574467685
its for testing purposes you fucking troglodyte, obviously wont be like this on release.
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>>574470146
you were right
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>>574473215
delete this post you rat
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>>574470146
It's not JUST the matchmaking it's how the game snowballs. There's no wards so the winning team can just run around as a pack of animals and keep kill you while you cant safely farm to catch up. Mid boss is insanely overpowered with 3 lives to anyone so there's no clever pick offs to happen it usually just gets you all wiped if you try to fight outside of base. While of course leads should give you an advantage deadlock is just too crazy it becomes probably twice as hard to kill someone with only a 25% networth advantage on you because the stats essentially triple dip
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yay
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How do you damage with Bebop?
I've tried echo shard bomb, melee, gun build, and he's just incapable of doing any damage comparable to any other hero of his kind
I've played a fuckload of games on him so I can consistently land good hooks so it isn't even that
Am I just supposed to feed my team?
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>>574474273
well firstly you ignore any retard who tells you to build headhunter and then you build an ACTUAL 3.2k and his gun build doesn't suck anymore
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>>574474273
rush toxic bullets
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>people who dont use their slots
buy a fucking extra health or something jfc
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>>574473585
>so there's no clever pick offs to happen it usually just gets you all wiped if you try to fight outside of base
this isn't true, while leads make fair fights very hard, having a number advantage is king in this game
when teams get rejuv they often split up and play overconfident because of their rejuv
the issue is that the team without rejuv tends to overstay their welcome. the most obvious example i can think of is when the enemy team is currently shoving each lane to set up a base siege, they'll often split 4 or 5 enemies in one lane and 1 or 2 in another. it's very common for someone to call to try and pick off the ones that are isolated from the rest of their team

but the issue that comes up is that the losing team always gets greedy and tries to kill them TWICE, which gives the enemy team a million years to rotate and fight, now you lose. just take the rejuv credits and run, now you have one less revive to worry about and sometimes you can coordinate for a kill on the person who doesn't have rejuv
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>>574472887
>>574472924
projecting brownoid
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I really can't believe people ever said holliday was weak. what's weak about her kit? she gets to do both types of extreme burst damage for absolutely 0 risk to herself. she flies around the air with 100% air control. her ult is mo&krill's but better. whats the weak part? that you can't 1 shot people with barrels? you're supposed to use the entire kit retard
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>>574474273
>How do you damage with __________?
gunshit
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>>574475012
powder keg didnt used to have the T3 it did, let me post the june patch where they made her thanos so you can understand just how hard they buffed her:
>Powder Keg now has an alt cast behavior to place the barrel at her feet.
>Powder Keg: various improvements to launch angles, velocities, and feel of casting.
>Powder Keg now starts with 2 charges.
>Powder Keg Charge Time increased from 3.5s to 7s.
>Powder Keg spirit scaling reduced from 1.6 to 1.4.
>Powder Keg T2 changed from "+58 Damage" to "+1 Charge".
>Powder Keg T3 changed from "+2 Charges and +0.4s Displacement" to "+100 Damage, +0.5 Spirit Scaling and -5s Charge Time".
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>>574474268
gj
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just add non-ranked and draft mode already for fuck's sake
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>>574475012
you clearly were not around when she was a throw pick
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>>574475213
>have to hear some europoid complain that I'm not picking the hero he thinks I should pick
No thanks
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>>574475171
ty, interested to find out if matchmaking update recalibrates people before I hit e6
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>>574475213
they need to make sure that the next update is two months away so they can deploy the matchmaking update as a distraction until then so it has "time to settle"
right now it's four months away
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>>574475152
Yet another hero ruined with an overpowered T3 change. Revert every patch since old gods new blood launch, and try again but with your brains this time valve.
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In the event I get stomped, I throw. Simple as. Fuck modern gaming for punishing those who leave. If I’m not having fun I have every right to do so.
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>>574475284
I have had people going like 3-15 second guess my shotcalling on several occasions. Now just imagine these same retards will be demanding you draft a certain way before you even know they're retarded.
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>>574475012
her damage used to fall off a cliff so past the 15 minute mark you had to rely on your team to get anything done no matter how hard you stomped lane
see >>574475152
yes there was still tech to barrel people you lassoed before she got uberbuffed but they still did way less damage back then
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>>574475521
you already threw by getting stomped, retard
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>>574475284
then don't play the draft mode retard, i didn't say "remove blind pick"
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>>574475521
>have plenty of options for games that don't tether you to a match and require you play the entire thing out
>decide to pick one among the very few that do this
>cry about losing
>cry about not being able to leave and spoil the match for 11 other players
why do you do this
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>>574475735
worth it for ruining the game for metaslaves
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>>574475884
okay so you go out of your way to do things you don't like? this sounds like self harm. you should see a therapist.
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>>574475521
>In the event I get stomped, I throw.
>If I’m not having fun I have every right to do so.
This reads like a coping mechanism to try and feel like you didn't actually get shit on. That makes me wonder how much throwing is just insecure people trying to act like they lost on purpose and weren't getting destroyed. Probably a lot come to think of it.
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>>574473241
marvel rivals will put literal bots on your team when it wants you to lose and put literal bots on the other team when it wants you to win to keep you from uninstalling the game. NOTHING compares to that kind of matchmaking manipulation.
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>>574474273
Because of hook, his 3 other abilities and gun (and melee, hes in the lowest melee bracket) aren't allowed to be good. You vill follow your damage-dealer teammates around and you vill hook for zem.
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>>574475152
>>574475224
I've been around since before she was added to the game. she's always been good, you just needed actual skill to pull it off when she wasn't OP. this of course filters out 99% of deadlock players so they made her more "accessible"
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>>574476131
>ignores all the patches where his bomb would quite literally oneshot people
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>>574475716
>make my queue worse so you can berate people for not picking a support to help you play infernus (you can't fucking aim)
No thanks
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>>574475152
>add the key words "improved spirit scaling" to character
>they become S+ tier instantly
>this has happened with a dozen characters
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>>574476647
Silver should have improved spirit scaling
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>>574476210
>she's always been good, you just needed actual skill to pull it off when she wasn't OP
A tourist is speaking but I will not be silent
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>>574474720
yeah but at high mmr you can just get baited by people waiting for you to jump someone that looks alone + the people clearing solo are usually ivy/mirage/viscous that are insanely hard to catch without a lot of cc

the point is they get all your walkers with mid boss and even if you do wipe them youre probably still 30k behind and there's no boss to take after so it really changed nothing

now with the void creeps it's even harder to punish winning teams since they can send those down a wave then go to the other 2
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What should we do now that Translock lost bigly? DotAbvlls are laughing at us...
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im playing darktide while waiting for the cryptic mm patch
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>>574476126
literal same shit in paladins btw like you'll get 4 bots and be facing a 6 stack. wouldn't be shocked if overwatch does the same thing.
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how to save deadlock (calculated by claude mythos)
1. Fire the h1b indians and hire pure nipponese developers
2. Turn the art style into anime characters in a fantasy ancient-chinese setting
3. give silver a twin and have her belly being shown at all times in game
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I don't really like playing carries (I tend to lean more towards support/utility) but want to rank up out of Seeker. What do I do?
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>>574476037
>That makes me wonder how much throwing is just insecure people trying to act like they lost on purpose and weren't getting destroyed.
I've had this thought many times. It's all of them. It's literally always a cope to save their egos.
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>>574476810
sorry sometimes I forget I'm talking to shitlow seekers who struggled playing release silver
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>>574468303
Would people even care if they started selling skins? Valve is probably the only company to be able to get away with that.
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>>574477371
Turn on your monitor before you post
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>>574476126
ummm that totally doesn't happen in ranked so it's okay
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>>574477012
>regular updates
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>doing well in lane phase
>enemy player gets tilted
>our bebop tells them to 'lock in'
>they bring it back and stomp us

Maybe it's not the game I hate. Maybe it's the players.
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>H1B INDIANS H1B INDIANS ARE WORKING THE GAME
when really its all white peepo
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>>574476261
Maybe in seeker where spirit resilience, dispel and counterspell dont exist
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>>574469340
Stranger of Paradise, TF2, a little of FFXIV, and countless shit runs in Noita
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>>574469340
Marathon. Then I stopped playing Marathon, and now I don't have a go-to game anymore. Which has done nothing to improve my productivity, I'm just more aware of my time wasting.
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>>574477725
they're spiritually indian
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>>574477298
also more furry characters unironically
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>>574477725
Same breed of... "creature"
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>>574477674
meanwhile I noticed the enemy venator tilting and made the call in voice to gank this guy on repeat because he's tilting off the face of the earth
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>>574477298
do we REALLY need another silver for furfag tourists to latch onto and eternally downplay?
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>>574469340
Deadlock.
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>>574477726
Luckily there's an entire youtube channel worth of videos proving you wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9o2sR7Jhh0
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>>574479104
>SEA servers
all inititate level players
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>>574479104
https://tracklock.gg/players/66027672
he's in low asc....which is like top 60% of skill
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>>574479341
Yeah he's a fucking 50/50 agent in every single game
Play gun bebop or don't play him at all please.
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Whose this game's QoS?
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>>574480309
what does that mean? did you mean QoP? Mina is kind of like QoP
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>>574480309
Meds
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>>574480309
All the female heroes. But Paige might be the biggest one.
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>>574480309
>>574480453
>>574480525
It's Wraith obviously. She's WMBF coded
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>>574477626
it does
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>>574393031
UOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>574480754
rape
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>>574480414
It stands for queen of sex
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New thread?
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>>574483173
Nah we good
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>>574483173
baker quit
unironically sad
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niggerball starting.....play now if you want to avoid 3rd worlders on your team
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>>574483687
I thought basketball and eggball season ended
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This is basically your average Silver main and they blame the hero
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>>574477331
find a partner
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>>574484019
Yeah, the hero is bad.
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>>574484019
from my last game, genuinely how
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>>574484457
The hero is bad
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>load into game
>just smoked a jay and got some henny to sip on
>feeling a bit whimsy
>say wassup my niggers
>trans faggots says he's throwing the game
>despite me being black and saying it in voice
fuck trans niggas fr
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>>574484660
>Every e6 streamer says silver is busted and needs nerfs
>Every /dlg/ anon says she sucks and needs buffs
Who do I believe
>>
DUDE
i love smoking weed and going for a few billy games
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>>574484907
>streamers
Tranny cabal
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billy plays himself
you didn't beat the game
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>>574483687
Not if you're EU. Slavs don't care about footie but all of western yurope does
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>>574405697
>Valve time
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>>574485118
I'm not good as Billy because I suck at melee.
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>someone gets jumped by the enemy team while taking camps
>whines about muh deathball "meta"
What is wrong with these people?
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>>574484907
Its not every e6 streamer. Its like one or two.
Anyway you have to ask yourself "busted at what?". She is an inverse hypercarry. She wins the early/mid game and turns into a punching bag post 30 mins. If you're playing against a Silver you need to not let her end early. Thats easy to do in shitlo, hard to do in virginlo.

Like 98% of players have no right to complain about Silver.
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just run at them, they will flinch eventually
you can also cancel heavy melee with some items like fleetfoot or colossus
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>>574485351
If they got jumped by five people, I can see their point.
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>>574485449
And when do you use his ult?
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After coming back from a few months hiatus (after March update, pre urn rework), I've come back and played 54 games exactly since the beggining of July. It's not as bad as I thought it would be judging from the feedback I've seen, but still playing anything but my best characters is an exercise in frustration. I definitely don't remember it being that bad post Old Gods New Blood.
For now, uninstalled waiting for the next major update, I started spending too much time on the game again...
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which heroes are best for snowballing and can scale very well?
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when it nets you a kill, ideally more than that
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>>574485428
players are getting better all the time, it won't take all that long before even low elo games are ending in reasonable timeframes
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>>574485559
Victor.
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>>574485503
use it while holding m1+w
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>>574485634
>it won't take all that long before even low elo games are ending in reasonable timeframes
This is true in exactly zero mobas and I see no reason why Deadlock would be the exception. Low elo players cannot close out early. If they did they wouldn't be low elo.
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>>574485759
>zero second-order thinking
that anon is retarded, but so are you for thinking yoshi won't make games go faster because its what low elo players want, but don't know how to do. you can see it already with the boon changes, giving players more frontloaded APs so the impact of winning early is more pronounced
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>>574485978
Ok but even if you do have a crystal ball and can see what Yoshi will do in the future (you dont) we aren't there yet, so my point that 98% of players have no business crying about Silver stands.
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>>574486248
>>574486248
>>574486248
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>>574485428
>Like 98% of players have no right to complain about Silver.
They aren't though. Silverfags are the ones that have been complaining about her being unplayably weak for ages even when she was doing fine at every rank and when it's clearly a skill issue as evident from her winrate always only increasing with rank.
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>>574485491
I would understand if it was maybe 10 minutes in after a passive lane, but its almost always 30+ minutes in when we're down 20% and have zero shrines and they still have rejuv
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>>574485185
exactly why I'm avoiding queueing.
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>>574476126
>marvel rivals will put literal bots on your team
Only in QM



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