Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://gbf.wiki/Granblue_Fantasy:_Relink>FAQsBase game FAQ: https://rentry.org/RelinkFAQER DMG rundown: https://rentry.co/ytczavom>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackPrevious Thread: >>574414961
>no Charlotta threadruined
Am I credit to team?
>ty4pKINOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE GBF!!!!!
>>574471142Anon you did great I'm sure
is WEAK Point dmg bad as well?
>>574471397
>>574471447You're my weak point dumb bea
>>574471447grok explain
Vaseraga kings, do you guys use the charge time reduction master trait tree?
>another failed infinite bahamutt from running out of time is there a specific strat for this fight? the game sure as hell doesn't tell you much
>>574471875このマスタリー特性を付けると、ATKが20%アップして、DMG上限が加算で50%アップするよ。ただし、その代わりに自分にかかるデバフの効果も50%強くなる。ダメージ系デバフならダメージが50%増えて、持続時間も50%長くなるし、スロー系デバフなら移動速度がさらに50%遅くなるよ。参考になれば!
>>574471928the proud quest? I think the strat was to save your sba for its last phase
why does sieg this fat fucking full STR build niggerhomo in full clank armor sprint faster than song who is a nimble floating overpowered eternal skinny whore archer slut known for her agility
>>574471928Isn't versa's gimmick just get hit once since getting darkflamed gives you a massive steroid, don't get hit again or darkflame blows up, killing id grants a darkflame that doesn't hurt you if it blows up. Aside from that its just versa. The king of stalling can make time a bit of an issue but as long as everyone does the gimmick and doesn't spam dispels or gets unlucky with divergence its fine
what am i supposed to do after unlocking the chaos quests? should i be spamming conflux 4 for a bit?
>>574471928>the game sure as hell doesn't tell you muchit literally tells you in the quest description
>>574472402make sure you're using the fatebreaker sigil and transcend your defender weapon and use it
no seriously bros his giant sword alone probably weights more than song yet he somehow outruns her in a 100m sprinthow
>>574472549she's a lazy woman
>>574472314she's actually known for her ridiculous eyesight that loses to sunglare
>>574472683She'd rather be fucking her wife
>>574472410"attacks" is meaningless when he has a ton of attacks which fucking attack
>>574472314>>574472549Have you seen her boss battle? She's not even slightly trying hard when she's a playable character, she just wants to be included.
>>574472314Have you tried having the blood of dragons enhance you?
>>574472831it's all his attacks. crazy that you can't be help but be a whiny loser just because you don't get spoonfed and handheld
Does Cag's AI actually use her revive skill to apply Phantasmagoria even without anyone dying?
>>574472831Like all of them man. All the ones that used to afflict you and all the ones that didn't use to afflict you. You eat a claw swipe? Thats a darkflame. You get some breath on you? Thats a darkflame. You stand a little too close when he emerges? Thats a darkflame. Id dies? Still more darkflame. Its like infinity faa-san despite what the description reads any attack that hits you is more likely to afflict you than not
i unlocked infinity but wont do yetwhats the best quest for stout summon?
>>574472860What does that make Seofon? Who can literally solo this game no diff
>>574473313siete is only using 0.00000007% of his true power.
>>574473313I think you'll find he's a pretty cool guy.
infinity lucilius is such a nigger with his teleports and cutscenes
>>574473313Siete can solo Lucilus? What about a merged Bahamut?
>>574473650Siete literally destroys the world in one of the many timelines. I know we all joke about him holding back but Siete is probably the most powerful character in the game, villains included.
did they add dokkan yet
Are there any Cagliostro Damage builds now, or is he still just the king of buffs?
>can't activate parries when invulnerableI'm so fucking tired of this bros
this for online?
Just hit proud, kinda, breezed through the 4 dragons again but next quest has 2 of them and recmmends 16k power.Was planning to rush past Proud to get those lvl 90 crewmate cards and maybe meet Fraux before grabbing her but rusing no longer seems feasible
>>574473650Siete if he stops lusting for 15 year old danchous could do that as revealed by ...and (You).
>>574473650no he can't
Good huntin', lobby, thanks for the gamesDidn't get much, but was a fun time
>>574474305If you have nothing better to put a point in
>>574474662I mean, do we even know what Bahamut is like when he gets re-fused
>>574474356If you want to play Fraux just pick her up early cause you get her free recruit like 30 minutes from the end of Chaos++
It's the bow lady and sword autist
any lobby running?
>>574475034bake it
>>574474830he can't solo Lucilus and a merged Bahamut is the Sky God so there's no chance
>>574471928Kill id
I've been running AFK slime for a day and only got enough MSP for three characters. This shit is going to take awhile.
>>574472041>could more or less read all of thatThe JP practice is paying off, lads
Who do I max out next? So far I have Zeta, Sieg, Cog, Fediel, Id, Song, Bea
>>574475408Based>>574475417Eustace
>try out the dub out of morbid curiosity>EAT LEAD PISS OFF THUNDERBLIGHT PISS OFF R.I.P. EAT LEAD PISS OFF PISS OFF R.I.P.oh no I love it
how is skill chain bea
>>574475483CABBAGES BIGGER THAN YOUR HEADWATERMELONS BIGGER THAN AN AIRSHIP
>>574475417yo mama
>Ruricuck failed Infinity Lucy for 5 hours w/ no clear
>Grand Refinium 1
we dont care retard go back
i care please stay
>>574475483The dub here is actually passable since it does feel like the Eng VA's were given directions about how to voice their lines for the first time in their careers and it's actually fully voiced the entire way through, but it's still lower quality than JP and a few character voices feel weird.
WE carePLEASE stay
>>574473075From what I've seen, noWish they did
>Shit is about to go down>Timelines glitching>Your Mom comes and saves you>For you starts playingAbsolute peak kinographyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfM--hhmvqc
Is there a ER guide for Siegfried? Like what skills to use, what sigils and masteries etc.
>>574475973it seems like decent quality but I am not gonna stick with it. vyrn at least sounds like his lines are just lower volume but lyria is inexcusable and I dread having something like a cagliostro or any potato in my party, and I miss JP fediel and rosetta's bonertown voices. some of the dudes are really funny though>>574475872is this someone?
We are reaching the level of shittery that should not be possible.Chaos++ Lucilius, I'm level 30 Box and pug is a level 50 boxSo how did I managed to outdamage him? He spammed lbm attack without doing any jumps, he wasn't even using full auto because he got hit by every aoe.
>>574475973I opened a video for Siete and the guy had the english dub instead of the real voices and Siete sounds like he's 50.
>>574471397The only sigils that have "DMG Dealt" in their description that actually deal more damage on top of the cap are Celestial Ventus and Celestial Aqua. This is a localizer fuckup as it should say something like "more" or "enhanced" damage, to make it more in line with the wording of some Mastery Traits and Signature Sigils which have similar effects.
>>574475973The dub is of very high quality, it's just some characters are written like total garbage and its kinda grating. Lyria and Vyrn piss me off no matter the language but at least I'm used to it in Japanese.Props goes to whoever voices Cag, they've done an amazing job portraying just the most abysmally antisocial person you can get away with that isnt an outright villain
Bwos I finally made it
Okay I'll try the dub and do some quests cause I'm interested
Anyone feel like grinding 4D? I need a ton of Fortitude Crystals
>>5744732794 dragons
>>574476525Congrats on finishing the tutorial
>>574476525Grats.
>>574474960Good to know, when do masteries unlock cause I've occasionally used Bea but her basiv version is... basic.
>>574476331This is a problem in japanese also, there's a lot of effects that sound incredibly similar and Cygames's inhouse translation team has a bad habit of directly translating anything that isn't dialouge or flavor text
>>574476184That's a shame, might as well choose other mastery for the AI then. Which do you think is better? the debuff one or super collapse?
>>574475408isn't paying off for me that's for sure
>>574473075Nope. It's still a strong skill regardless but she won't have full uptime
>>574476245>>574476273>>574476436Siete sounds cool in English, like a bored dad taking care of the party. They're probably not accurately portraying the characters I'm sure and that's more than reason enough to not use the dub if so, but it's not remotely AA game on the Vita dub territory is my point. It's decent, they put effort into it and they didn't skimp out with any of voice lines or battle quotes either. Honestly I was expecting very little voiced dialogue for the expansion outside of battle and no added lines for DLC characters replaying the story either, but they did all that in English too. I think it's neat, but then again I don't have any emotional connection to or prior knowledge of the characters either so it might be outright horrible if you're a fan of the gacha storyline.
>>574476876Siete is in character, he thinks he can afford to not give a shit because going full big-dick on every antagonist might cause more harm than good
im out of rupies and the crystal weapons AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>574476564make a lobby
Any Zeta chads in here that can give me a qrd on which of her mastery traits are good or the most viable to run in endgame?
Djeeta Bea and Zeta alone makes me never want to touch the dub
lobby doko?
>>574477340English Bea is fine enough, better than her japanese yelling.
>>574476876Percy in the dub sounds about exactly as I expected him to
>>574477438I strongly disagree
>>574476258>So how did I managed to outdamage him?gee its almost like what everyone has been saying she is fucking broken
>>574476209That shit was nice and cool to see them allude to in Relink. ...And You is my all time favorite anni event, and sparked like a motherfucker as soon as Logia was playable.
I actually am not that big a fan of "you had an unseen causality-controlling helper all along, nice hollow victories"
>>574476564>>5744771594 Dragons lobby upPJQ6F27TWE7MK303pw: rage
>>5744780123/4
>>574477989It's a bit weird cause Orologia doesn't actually directly manipulates the timeline. What he does is manipulate the variables that lead to an outcome. He doesn't just rewind time when things go wrong, it's more like he makes it so that (You) have the tools to handle it when it does go wrong.Which is funny because his in-game character does the opposite and rewinds time when things are going wrong.
>>574477438Retard
>>574476781頑張り続けろ!日本語は難しいのに毎日勉強したら読める事が増える!I've been studying for quite a while at this point, and I'm still pretty bad at actually speaking or writing, but if you just keep at it, you'll be able to understand more and more stuff. The hard part is to keep going even when it feels like you're not making progress.Just do your best, bro.
>>574477989You've had Vyrn next to you for every single fight in the game
Fucking tokage
>>574477989Counterpoint : his theme slaps
>>574477989Danchou himself warps fate just by existing because the universe needs him to be strong enough to fight godas far as anyone is aware they can't lose by normal means, you need to actively destroy the planet they're on instead of aiming at them
>Skill and SBA damage and not capDammit...this is still an upgrade for the extra Stun and miniscule NA Cap increase, right?
I'm trying out Fediel and I'm getting a lot less honors compared to when I'm playing Ferry, what gives ? I'm playing the finisher spam meme build that is supposed to shit out damage
Should I grind more tonight or masturbate instead?
>>574479189Yeah.
>>574478376I think you can definitely do it right, but if you fail then it's worse just having a bad normal plot. Adventure Quest Worlds sort of does a similar thing with the player character technically being the god of their world and the single most powerful entity IE basically the Astral and Sky God before the split, but they subconsciously suppress that power by putting themselves in the "Hero" role in terms of causality so it sort of autocorrects them to a level where they're always strong enough to win but never guaranteed to succeed. Granblue gets away with it in my book too since the bigger powerhouses are like proper gods that embody concepts and it's not simply about who has the bigger damage number, so it doesn't feel like an out of nowhere power up or an ensured victory most of the time.
>>574479189does SBA cap ever come into effect?
Infinite Versa is such cancer solo, the AI is worthless for the gimmick
>HAILSTORM HAILSTORM>MAELSTROM MAELSTROM>METEOR SWARM UPHEAVAL METEOR SWARM
>>574479540Fighting the 4 dragons?
>>574478012how do i join
>>574479281evens: wankodds: grind
I've cleared Infinity Lucy 7-8 times times now and I still really don't enjoy the fight. What a cluster fuck of screen vomit. The World and Bub are better. Does anyone actually enjoy Lucilius?
>>574479948nobody likes faagot in any of his version. why cygames is still obsessed with him is beyond me.
>>574479948No one enjoys that shit of a fight. Most of the fight, you're fighting with the game's visuals with how much shit is everywhere. You basically can't even attack him until the game says so too, so that's also annoying.
>>574479810>0Lucilius...
>>574479948The absurd amount of visual noise in most ER fights is the thing that annoys me the most and Lucy is that aspect turned up to a thousand. Fuck that shit
Man i wish Io's freeze didnt send her flying so far backwards>>574479948i thought the original base game fight was cool, the infinity version is just too much
>>574479948I liked Chaos++ Lucy a lot and the visuals were kino, it was way more fun than The World or Omnis. I don't really care for the other versions.
>>574479948that's a lot of samefaggingthe only real problem I have with the fight is his constant teleportation around the map.
how do you change these sigils?
>>574480437the world does it more than him desu, i started spamming my ranged combo on id because i couldn't get godmight with melee combos
>>574480524gear -> L3
>>574475085Bahamut lost to this however.
should i start using the slow skill gold clock beas
>>574479540I find the Ice Dragon the most annoying as Beatrix because it keeps jumping backwards which makes me miss my finishers.
>>574480769it works on the bosses like once anyway, i prefer hearts on fire or embrasque. riding free and starchaser are the 2 mandatory slots and the last one should probably be thunderbird (is it just me or is its stun value incredibly low for something that claims to be high stun?)
How do we fix summons so that they aren't just a extra sigil slot?
>Hexachrome Quartz 0/1>"oh man if its asking for one it probably has a dogshit drop rate">Get from: Currently Unknownare you fucking serious? is it actually from a fight that isnt added yet? or does it drop from the Infinitys?
>>574481821yesshould be obvious how it works
>>574481763all equipped sigils apply to the summon
>>574481821beat the 4 infinity quests to see where it is
Bea still owes me sex.
I reached World and I don't have the damage to kill the ads fast enougham I screwed by delaying my grind this much
>>574481763They're fine though. Rolan is great for vane bubbles. Faa and Lilith shit out damage. Bubs shits out stun. Albacore is limited by bad traits but is amazing too
I still haven't seen any echoes or war elem slotted into a summon I've run bahamut like 10 times now I can't believe they replaced the terminus weapon grind with a far lees satisfying summons grind
I heard some characters can true solo Chaos++ quests after getting a maxed build, Like Beatrix. Are there any others?
>>574482451I AFK Lucilius++ with Zeta, Beatrix, Fraux and a Eustace backup.
>>574482646I mean true solo, 1 character. Meme runs for the sake of it essentially
>>574482451All of them if you're a perfect block and dodge GOD unless they really suck at DPS.
>>574482451when your healths high enough you can ignore a lot of mechanics
Just to confirm for hexa infinity killing the smaller body during the final trial if hexa's hp was above 15% it will set hexa's HP to 15% no matter what? If so is it just a waste of time to do damage to hexa after it crosses the 30% Hp threshold? What happens if you damaged hexa to like 10% prior to the final trial kicking off?
>>574482240why not focus on an easier grind like icewyrm if you want to start slotting echoes into your summons
>>574478012Still 3/4
>>574482981>still gets one tapped by luci's normal attacks
>>574482219This. Problem is that everyone forgets about them in the heat of the moment. The summons are actually really useful when used properly, if you remember that they exist
try as you might, game, I will not invite sandalphon to my crew, I will not play him, I will never think he is cool
Even: FrauxOdd: Magi
>>574483478Relink pushes Fraux far harder than they ever pushed Sandy
Is immortal shell actually good? The buff effects look pretty minor.
>>574483672We'll be expecting the mandatory donation of brain cells needed to join our ranks by the end of the work day.
>>574483691It's not pushing if she deserves it
>>574483773its unironically the best sigil in the game
>>574483949How?It gives like 3% cap up and 2% supp. How is that a 9% damage increase?
Lobby time Im doin Infinity stuff with a friend ENDA BY3N 0WAD TNMR2/4"PW is asdf
>>574484004It's a cumulative of all effects listed on the sigil, not just the last one.
>>574484097>It's a cumulative of all effects listed on the sigil, not just the last one.How?
>>574484004>>574484175https://relink.gbf.wiki/Immortal_Shellit applies all of these effects at once
>>574477989niggas will drop this but then glaze games like Trails and honkai
>>574484175attack 10%supp 5%DMG 2%all of that makes you do like 8-9% more DMG. the attack up stops working on overdrive so it falls down to like 5% but it's still very good
>>574484175It's an ingame buff so it goes over cap as all other buffs.
>>5744840123/4 now
>>574484448The atk does nothing by endgame however.So that's only 5% supp and 2% damage amp.
>>574484448oh and DMG cap 5% and drain and Regen and defense
>>574484572>only>attack does nothing by endgameplease learn the game
>>574479948Rurikhan got tilted for 5 hours straight against him today
>>574484572it technically helps you reach sba damage cap
>>574484351niggas might, but not me, I'm white and I hate angels and hoyoslop. put the ys in the fucking bag falcom I'm tired of your bullshit
>>574484572it's applied as a buff, so it does do something at endgame even if you are atk capped already
>>574484012Full now
>>574484647literally fucking who and why did you watch this person play a game for five hours
>>574484879i didn't, it said he was streaming for that long
>>574476692A couple of quests into Chaos
>>574484753So it's counted more as a buff rather than a direct stat increase like the other traits?
>>574479948I said it before, they should have left it at the bas version. It had enough shit ging on and was already the hardest fight in the game, mechanics-wise, even incuding the new onesAt least the chaos++ shouldn't have been the tuned up version
>>574482219If we get more duo fights like the dragons they're also nice to break one before they can chain their bloodthirst attacks back to back
Relink x FF14 when? Gacha already collabed with FFXI
>>574485235the crab sigil puts a buff on you that applies all the effects
>>574485326its a shame we didnt got Ice and Wind together again
>>574485396Can this buff be removed?Does it time out?
>>574485469no and noyou can tell who has the crab sigil on your quest because they'll have a rainbow crab buff icon with the letters VIII
>>574485570So it's a perm buff then.Did anyone find out the math for how buffs affect damage and are worthwhile again?
>>574478012Thanks for the lobby bros!
upcoming questquakadileblizzardilelavadileall at once and all 50% bigger model scale
>>574485642
>>574478012my stout summon
>>574485337I'll unironically drop the GBF after 12 years if they add Lyse as the collab character
Id's heliotrope aura stacks are so easy to build and maintain compared to most characters who have a similar mechanic that it feels weird that isn't some big payoff to it.
>>574485698I really wanted that 4 dragon quest to be a complete bullshit clusterfuck of 4v4 desu, or least have a White and Black dual fight.
>>574485782Did anyone manage to get one? I know I didn't.
>>574485757>when they hit the cap they still add half their effect to the war elemental up to a certain pointLess than I thought but still quite substantial.
>>574485337The FF11 collab happened because the devs are big fans of the game.
>>574485782If you want a stout heart summon specifically you might wanna farm the C++ skeleton fight. Seems to have a better drop rate for Behemoth than 4D
>>574485824tbf his damage is already very good, it's no fediel tier but it can hang with the likes of percival. he's also less effort than some of the mid to lowtier characters like beatrix or petless ferry
Is anyone NOT playing Cagliostro as a support? I'm about to build him up but wondering if his other mastery trees are worth. Saw a vid of some guy spamming infinite Collapse meteors against the training dummy.
>>574485927Didn't get anything useful after ~25 runs. Trying again tomorrow.
Okay so after playing some Siete I think what I'm supposed to be doing is constantly switching back and forth between avatar and no avatars and keep my swordshine at JUST the right level so I can unload infinito creare when I get the chance. If I can unload the full avatar bar of IC on an enemy, I can literally see their lifebar drop significantly, but actually getting to do that is hard because everything is spastic and moves around like they got ADHD
>>574486127Once Fed gets nerfed, the only good damage dealers are gonna be dudesSad to see
>>574486383I guess charlotta doesnt exist anymore
Do you guys think Enel lurks here?
>>574486236Bummer, I guess maybe we should try what >>574486067 said sometime then. Hell that was a nice break from Infinity stuff. I was trying to grind Bubs and Luci earlier but like only half were clearing. I think most people playing I got clears with didn't want to grind and were only going for the first clear/progression.
I know conflux is the best place to grind but its so fucking boring man this is worse than arcarum sandbox
>>574486495literally who (don't answer I don't care)
>>574486661>this is worse than arcarum sandboxYou don't really mean that anon
>>574486661I wish they randomized the bosses more
>>574486873Sandbox is one mouse wheel/button click every few seconds while doing anything else.
>>574486661It really was a cool idea but I think I wish it was more endless/survival style and you could play it with other people. I played it maybe 15-20 times and I don't feel like messing with it anymore.
>>574486448Is Charlotta on the same level as Percival, Id, and Vas?Thought she was a level below since she she lost beyblade and didn't get much in return with the update
>>574487120But you have to stay in the arcarum mines for an eternity. Meanwhile you have to clear conflux 4-5 like once per character
>>574486661I was getting annoyed with needing Refinium I's to the point I killed the Conflux 5 blackwyrm with a chain burst and the Chaos upgrade that lets off a dark energy blast at the point you dodge from. I can't believe they expect players to get 50 surveys done for the damn trophy.
>>574486661>worse than arcarum sandboxAh yes, mindlessly refreshing the same fight over and over for hours is more >fun
Siero please stop giving me hot dogshit from transmarvels
>>574487167nah her damage is average now
>>574487353Thank you come again!
the thing that has actually made me worse at the game is the constant presence of substitute characters
POPPIRI POPO!
>>574486227Yeah I play him with the Super Collapse tree which is pretty much just the same playstyle he had in the base game. Damage doesn't seem great but I just enjoy how he plays, have not checked actual numbers with a parser or anything though.I've seen videos of the infinite Collapse build but haven't tried it since it doesn't look fun to play.
Why did the devs make Danchou so fucking weak
>>574487729it would be real funny if they gave us unlockable classes for granjeeta that made them the strongest
>>574487729If Danchou was strong from the beginning the plot won't start
>>574487729danchou can give out like 50+% damage buffs to the whole partyI wish I could find one retard in this game that isn't obsessed with their own damage
what debuff is that grabbing thing the skeloton boss or bubz have? can i be immune to it?
Galleon would be nice to have in this game, imagine how nice her tits would look...
>>574487969Give me LumberDjeeta or give me death!
>>574488152No don't get hit
>>574488265Got it, we're adding Ladiva and Sandy Alter
>>574487969I still think that job changing should've been a thing since the base game. What the fuck were they thinking?
no they're going to add noire yuel and sarasa and they're going to expand on the sex scenes that happened between fediel and gran in the volcano and when you "fought" her and after story hexa
>>574488560Ladiva would be based if I could grapple the bosses
Look at the curves of your dragon mom
So are Terminus weapons just the best overall? I can't really see a downside other than just not being able to use Aegis or Greater Aegis.
Fastest way to farm Silver Centrums ? I can't believe I'm getting walled by these even in ER
>>574483478You gotta admit he's pretty cool anon...
>>574488265
>That Pyet-A cutscene where the camera pans over the thing's tail while the Diaspora song swells into gbf leitmotif As opposed as I am about giving Cygames props, they absolutely deserve it for that alone. It is kino.
>>574488071Yeah but over half of it is in ATK up which gets negated during Overdrive and the cooldowns on them are so long which is why people still run Cag
>>574487541I played both but this is false, maybe against the dummy that doesn't move but charlotta just doesn't give a fuck about anything compared to vaseraga which has to hit charge attacks to have permanent immortality.UI changes for buffs gives her a huge advantage because you can tell when the invul from parry is going to end, so she's pretty much invul all the time.Vaseraga has to earn his damage compared to others, even if it in theory is high.Vaseraga does have edge on link time, but there as an argument that DPS isn't as consistent outside of it compared to charlotta.
>>574489125it's not atk up, read their masteries please
>>574488921What a nice woman...its a shame she has a habit of kissing everyone, someone needs to marry her before something bad happens
>>574489034That shit is is fucking sick every time I do that fight. Hell I liked the way it does the same with Zeta's theme from GBVS in the Chaos++ fight too. Shit is just perfectly timed and cool as fuck.
>>574488890he manages to make exploding lasers uncoolthe wings are so fucking stupid looking and he wears high heels. nothing about him is cool
can i savescum curios?
>>574488865Getting pink/blue sigils for the extras defense from your Ex traits mostly makes up for having to build around that health limit
>>574489695predetermined from the moment you get them
>>574489695No those are what they are as soon as you get them.
>>574488071Sure, but thats one of their support mastery tree's. Their actual damage tree still does no damage, i think its fair to ask just a little bit more from the main character of the series
Is Glass Cannon worth it on a subtank NPC?
>>574489695There's nothing worth savscumming in them at this point
>>574489512
>>574489214Isn't it only Clarity at 15% damage up and revive at 10% Cap up but a long ass cooldown?Phantasmagoria has really high uptime at 20% damage up
>>574484012thank you fediel anon3/4 now
>>574489951rage also gives damage capveil gives 10% supplementary damage
Which crewmate do you want to see more of in pub lobbies?
>>574488039relink is post jobcillus
>>574487969The strongest.
>>574489867my char sigils
>>574488865not being able to use aegis isn't even a negative when you can just use defense sigils instead
>>574489732You mean the "give defense x% per sigil type" traits? Won't that only work with Crux builds? I suppose it doesn't matter in Cagliostro's case though, since I'm pretty good at perfect dodges.
>>574488921>literally nevercriminal
I know everyone is building Sieg as an AI bot but how is he to actually play. The more I look at him the more cool he looks.
>>574490258Relink is a different timeline
>>574490439The Ex masteries don't depend on your earlier choices at all
Why is everyone farming the 4 dragons quest again?
>>574490439If it doesn't have the diamonds next to the perk then it works for all masteries
how do i get machovyrn sticker
>>574489034I kinda hate not being able to see his kill scene, one of the coolest cutscene in the game
>>574490658Fortitude crystals + decent chance at summons with usable sigils
>>574490658mastery, weapon xp crystals, and the summons from it are not bad
>>574478754>>574472041Someone needs to tell the japs to just use regular fucking letters, jesus christ.
I'd forgive shillsociety if we get to save my boy pyet-A and get to pilot him again
>>574490559>>574490714Oh, I'm stupid. Nevermind. I guess the only reason you wouldn't use Terminus would be very character specific then? Like maybe you're doing some Regen/Drain meme build.
>>574490658Easy and fast fights, tons of MSP and Fortitude Crystals
>>574490540wtf did you even mean by this, sandalfaggot literally recounts to you how it happened
>>574491028More depends on squeezing in the Supplemental levels you lose from the Ascension weapon in somewhere else
>>574491028Not really unless you want to be an ultra Giga tankWhich is valid since the damage boost for Terminus isn't head and shoulders above like before, only around 9-10% more damage
alright lets say i'm bad at all the quests where the entire floor becomes several overlapping instant death aoe effects. Who do I play?
>>574491465Bea, Fediel, Gallanza, Charlotta, any ranged character with FoF
>>574491465Just slot in Improved Dodge 15
The new parser is neat. I can see everyone's sigils, and as expected, there are lots of cheaters using damage multipliers in pubs. Once you look at their sigils, it's obvious their builds don't make any sense.
WE DID IT>>574486067
>>574491796you can't tell that I edited my sigils and summons
>>574490063full?
>>574491796where is the new parser?
>>574491863Holy shit congrats
>>574491863>+45%Go back.
>grub secondaries are the representation of danchous who have no idea who orologia ismetakino...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmuTwcMX3_k
>>574491863Damn, you even got 45% Cap Up! Gratz brother!I'm still stuck with a stout heart behemoth with something shitty like healing up
>>574491902You're right. The least people can do is the math or copy the build to see if it's feasible. Other than that, it's just a guessing game if you're smart enough to hide it.>>574491982https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/662
what exactly is the Fediel damage orb fuckery? i'm trying out her masteries and i don't really see anything broken? even with dodge-cancelling i can only drop 5 balls at a time
>>574492051what am i looking for?which quest for spart bers and idk if theres another i specifically want for summons
>>574492164>even with dodge-cancelling i can only drop 5 balls at a timeWell yeah, and with dodge-canceling you can spam them faster. You also wanna run all skills that let you go into Miasma Hands instantly
>>574491863>another one farmed behemoth instead of slaving away in the dragon minesnice
>>574492158quarantined
>>574491863
>>574491754yeah.... about that....>>574491691I completely forgot about FoF. This would solve a few problems, actually. Does invincibility stop Io's HP drain in her circle? Maybe I'll just be an Io main
>>574491980>>574490063full yeah my bad
>>574492164The balls have a retarded high damage cap and multi-hit larger enemies than the dummyYou tapdance on the boss' head and drop balls straight down
>>574492353Download it from github. The VirusTotal scan is clean, and looks like it's just a Python script compiled into an executable.
>>574474675
>>574485337>collab with the literal tranny infested quarantine gameHow about no?
>>574492164the damage on them is just too high and that's as far as it goesdodge canceling gets them out slightly faster but the real advantage of dodge canceling is positioning yourself as close as possible to and right above the enemy's tallest point so you can maximize orb hits. that's when you see bosses just completely fucking melt. she's high but not top of barrold parses because barrold is just a small target that you can't do that onyou still need to build the character and do the right things to do the broken shitall they need to do is add a "however your finishers have 40% reduced damage cap" to the trait tier that gives you 5 finishers and it's fixed. or they could add a maximum number of hits per orb you can get, but that diminishes the fun of placing them properly. diminishing damage cap per orb hit would also work. they COULD make it so she can only air dodge cancel one time and that would be ok I guess but it also wouldn't hit the damage aspect of it that hard, but it would make her considerably less safe and make repositioning for hitting the optimal spots harder. the dodge cancels are honestly not the problem it's just the damage valuesshe's safe but there are loads of safe ranged characters in the game and every character loses consequences as soon as you put a substitute character or mirror image yodarha on the team
>FULLY transcending a weapon will boost it's weapon collection bonuses says the game>Notice that the 2nd final level of transcending is enough to unlock all weapon collection bonususDo you really need to MAX out the transcended weapon for the passive stat bonus? Or can I leave it at the 2nd last levelIs it really improved? Or is it a waste of materials
>>574493280There were a lot of aerial Y attacks that got their damage caps dinged in a base game patch, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens for some of the DLC charactersOn the opposite end I'm surprised Maglielle can't use literally any of her skills or finishers in the air
tfw you beabrain a little too hard on a quest and die
>Infinity Versa is just a roided Dark Swordsmani dont wanna touch that dogshit quest ever again
holy shit sucide bomber rackams are so fucking annoying to play with
>>574492164like this anon said >>574492560if you position yourself well you can get twice as many hits per orb on an enemy and this makes her dps and sba charge skyrocket
>>574493421you get extra stats from the existing nodes by fully transcending the weapon
>>574493421You get 10-20% extra on every node on the weapon
>have to become a prancing lala homo man to play best girlHow is this fair?
I maxed out all my main characters weapons do I need more for the World?
>>574493630:o
>>574493767that's not IO
>>574493802World's easier than LuciJust kill the sword card when it shows up cause no one online manages to pay attention to the warning for it
It's very nice that relink manages to capture a lot of little things from the main game like the fact that Bea is either dead or the MVP (and sometimes both), or Bubz perpetual jobber aura
>>574491796How much dps are you seeing that you're suspecting of damage multipliersA lot of infinity bosses have gimmicks where they take a shit ton more damage once you do their gimmick like World and Versa
How is Fediel outside of ball spam? I know she's gettong nerfed, just wanna know if her other styles are fun to play.
>>574494132Her claws do a pretty good amount of damage.
>>574494132claw will hitstop you for 3 years on every swipe
>>574493767giantess cog...
>>574493630>>574493754thx anon
iobros, which mastery path are you preferring?
>>574494380disable concentration entirelyall in on magic chain
doko
>>574493456thing is it's just for the finisher trait that's a problem and nerfing it for the other traits just isn't actually called for>>574494132claw trait isn't an outlier like balls, but it's strong enough to justify it being rooted in place and hammering claw as long as possible. I think it's really fucking boring but it's pretty solidskill trait is nothing special and I've seen people go as far to say it's underpowered, which is kind of believable to me because her damage skills are kind of mediocre. miasma is good if they're stuck in it the entire time or you're using claws to enhance it, but the others, not so much. sphere of reversal is fun thoughif they change the whole base character instead of the offending trait it's a mistake
>>574493937>the sword cardJustice? what does it even do?
>>574494380GM is the most enjoyable, FFV is the meta approved build but it's boring as fuckPersonally i just play gm
>>574494631Puts a sword above your headIt turns red on a random timer then falls on youRepeat until the next phase of the fightAI doesn't give a shit about it but players are paying attention to other things usually
>Have terminus weapon transcended to 9/10 level>Have fatebreaker, celestial lumen aqua terra ventus berserker spartan all loaded up on hp and stun power sigils for the mastery perk>damage cap sigil and supplementary damage with cap as 2nd trait on top of that>hit the dummy>280%how the fuckwhat do I dowhy am I so choked on dmg capwhat do I do>bwo your mastery?already taken all my damage cap masteries and maxed out my bonuses
Hows vane doing these days, which style do you guys recommend on him?
>>574494640you need glasses
>>574494706Oh it's just random, I thought there's more to it
>>574494736Beatdown is actually worth using and rather good.
>>574485804Why do you hate Lyse...she a qt...
>need to farm shitload of msp for potato hayamin so i had to join msp farm lobby on >cord>after each run someone didn't turn on repeat because they capped on mspif i enter a fast run why the hell its even slower than pubs if counting those wait times in town
>>574489034you just know that a ton of dev time went into nailing the music timings and phase transitionsand every second was worth it
>>574494906Dumbass Mary-Sue character that came out of nowhere, probably. She do be a qt though.
>>574494816It's not random, it's when he hits you with something.If you don't get hit they don't go red.
>>574494216
>>574494878Thats the 3rd/crux tree? Are the beatdown only boosts that much stronger than the general boosts from the hostility style?
>>574494715Help
Is it possible to get these babes with a useful Sigil later on? Its a funny summon.
why isn't there a historiath summoncheckmate "there will be no more characters"theists
What would happen if 4 Seofons use Unlimited Blade Works during link time?
>>574494715>>574495184It's just how the expansion is: you need more cap ALL THE TIME
I'm surprised by how few honors I'm getting as Lancelot, even after having everything (except summons) maxed.I know I'm not applying party-wide buffs or inflicting many debuffs except Glaciate (and the Atk Down that comes with it), but I'd like to think I'm doing pretty respectable damage. Now I'm starting to question if that's just wishful thinking, though.
>>574495237No one cares about the hag
Have they actually said they were nerfing Fediel? Seems like we're hoping with no actual confirmation.
>>574495314So are you telling me even those minmaxed ultra superduper bis geared niggas at infinity+++++ endgame are also choked on damage cap?
>>574495189Less is morePower hungryIncendio
>>574495345They nerfed Sandalphon and Lancelot (while buffing Charlotta) after 2 years so they'll probably nerf Fediel soon
>>574495345assuming they aren't when they've routinely rebalanced characters and she's a clear outlier and the people are screaming at the top of their lungs is pretty foolish
>>574495041I'm a FFXIV player and I don't see what there is about her to actually make one HATE her at least not to the degree of Wuk Lamar.
Is Seofon popular? he seems like a character I'd have a lot of fun with but I don't want to be a fucking basic bitch in pubs
>>574495434Yes.
>>574495578>but I don't want to be a fucking basic bitch in pubshow do you even function in life while having this thought processplay the character you like dude no one fucking cares. do you go into pubs and go HRM... ALL THESE POPULAR CHARACTERS... IF ONLY I WAS SURROUNDED BY UNPOPULAR CHARACTERS... or something
>>574495434I needed to take 1 attack mastery when I got to the Mastery 50+ shit just because my Y attacks were at like 95% of cap on the dummy
>>574495560Meh, I don't really HATE her. Adding her as a cross-promo character or something like that would be absolutely insane though
TODOKEDOKEEEEEEEEEEE
>>574495705You don't understand, I NEED to not fit in
>>574495578No he's currently the weakest character in the game. Not even kidding, he is awful.
>>574484012Alright its closed, thanks for joining, sorry for throwing
>>574495321>Now I'm starting to question if that's just wishful thinking, though.Most likely you are tickling the boss yeah
>>574495906Getting an extra super out of nowhere feels fantastic, so I always appreciate Seofon players (if they run that skill).
>>574495345By the time they nerfed shotgun Rackam everyone was pretty much done with the game. Expect the same here.An oversight like Fediel should had been a week one review.
>>574495906Not while Katalina still exists as-is.
>>574496106ehhh the game was still peaking like 80-90k(China peak and like 30k outside of that) and you could still get instaqueues. People were still playing
>>574495979I don't see how that could be the case when I'm consistently smacking them in the face with a 15m+ damaging skill over and over, is the thing. My DMG Cap is basically as high as it can go, and I'm hitting it.
>finally try Katalina for the first time.>Actually seems kinda fun with useful team utility>Everyone says shes dogshitIs her numbers just really low like Captain or something?
>>574495925You werent eating the critical bar like 50% of the randoms I see so you were fine.
Your next DLC raid boss
>>574495776That happened to me too, but then I realized I hadn't set the dummy to Chaos for my Fatebreaker to proc.
>>574496358Her highest dummy test is like 260m. She is REALLY bad.
>>574496358yeah
>>574496532Oh maybe that was it, but it was honestly a filler point either way
>>574496516Oh she'll be giving birth alright after im done giving her 12 inches of GOZA.
>>574496516It's gonna be belial and you know it
bea's damage seems kinda low but she's comfy so i can't complain too much i guess. i finally managed to get s++ on infinity luci with 2.7m dps on the parser while the feds were doing like 4+, feelsbadman
>>574496708I'd rather they just don't release anything. In fact, I would rather they a recolor boss fight than that.
>play Fediel >have her run up one of the really looong stairs in Seedhollow >look up her robe and get a glimpse of that fine ass jesus fucking christ what a fine body her animations are incredibly ditzy cute too her body was made for sin and i'm here to commit them all
>>574496251Download a DPS parser and checkIt always helps to analyze your play and see what's going on and what worked best
Is afk bubs farming possible?
>>574496358I tried giving her a fair shake here recently but her damage output is absolutely dreadful even with the mastery trees meant for Ares and skills. Her Blade Blue support skills would be really nice if it wasn't hampering your already weak kit even further to support everyone else. Might as well have a character that does higher consistent damage.
>>574496548No boss will sit there and let you chain combos for 60s
>>574496814Coming from Versus, seeing the words "Bea's damage seems kinda low" feels like a gut punch after the war crimes she were committing in that game.
>>574496358having utility is neat...then you hit infinity difficulty which suddenly takes a note from endgame chink gachass where in order to ramp up difficulty make the bosses much tankier but with short timerinfinity pubs already having issues with timer even if someone runs fediel which happens alot in bubs
>>574497080esl
>>574496516mmmmh nyo...anything past the otherniggerworlder arc doesnt exist
>>574497112it's not absolutely horrible like song or ferry or kat actually, she's actually hanging with the 'average dps' cohort. but my reasoning is that it should be higher since she has no real utility, she's mostly a pure dps character
>>574496548Is she even lower than Tweyen? That's impossible right?
>>574497141not to mention a lot of personal utility kinda goes out the window when bosses are veiled in effects all the time and attack telegraphs are easily missed
>>574497239She has no utility and instead she gets the best defenses in the game other than Vas and can ignore 99.9% of the mechanics.
>>574497141To be fair, Chaos++ bosses were definitely way too weak compared to the player.
>>574494085I've seen a bunch of Songs doing like 3.5 - 3.9m dps when I was farming Managamr and Furycane. I'm pretty sure that's straight up impossible for her.
I hate crabs
>>574497423Yeah, chaos++ felt like maniac. I really want to see all the bosses in infinity at some point
>>574497048Yeah, even falling off the edge isn't a problem. Just get firm stance if you really want to be safe.
Any lobbies going or someone want to grind something?
>>574496106shotgun rackam wasn't even that big of a problem, it was an impractical build for actual fights - it just made farming baha a bit more tolerable because that fight sucked ass
>>5744974674 million dps is only 240 million on the training dummy and Song is literally THE uptime character.
>>574497270I honestly dont know. I havent seen a single Tweyen since ER launched.
>>574494774kek I could see why io gets misread as id
The Infinite Creare Siete build feels more like a neat little gimmick than a real build, idk man. I don't know how to play this fucker.
>>574497401Pretty much anyone can do that with the right sigils.
>>574497707no that's more like fediel-tier dps because managamr and furycane both have lengthy bloodlust/downtime mechanics, furycane in particular is a giant timewaster
>>574497830actually i slightly misspoke because i have seen fediels with 6m dps on managamr and furycane. 4m dps is more like percy/id levels of dps
>>574497649I'm down for everything except Infinity, I'm too drunk for that
>>574497649I have to farm either infinity world or lucilius because i already got a good bubsy summon.
>>574497626completely forgot about firm stance, thanks
Blocked 19 fediel niggers so far. I'm trying to see if I can block 1k fediels.
>>574498102>blackheh
>>574498102why?
>>574497147Retard. Test dummy dps is not a reflection of a character in an actual fight.
>>574498102that's more effort than the effort those players put into playing the game aren't you at least a little embarrassed to admit to this in public?
>>574498235Blocking them so you never get matched with them again.
>>574498102>not in the listNice try, bucko
>>574498038Fuck, I think I'd be trash at the world. Think I only played it twice. I guess I'd play some Lucillius if anyone else wants to.
>>574498258Blocking someone literally only takes a few button presses anon and you can just do it once the fight is over.
I block chinese names. That's all. I shit you not, 2/3rds of them I've caught cheating in some way.
>>574498102Lil nigga self-banning himself from all lobbies
Bahamut Versa Advent spends like 50% of the fight flying away, what the fuck were they thinking, he's old gen Rathalos tier.
Is it really true you can't get a stout summon from any of the infinity bosses? Nigga I'm tired of fighting dragons.
>>574498734Fight skeletons bro, I got my stout heart there in an hour
>>574498734if you only want stout then the behemoth summon is probably better to farm
Any lobbies?
>>574498734yes. if you really want the summon, blightbone ragnalia in 'the myths are real' has a much higher drop rate of behemoths
>>574498734I still haven't seen a single Stout Heart summon that wasn't Behemoth
>>574498823>>574498817I have multiple stout summons but they're Firewyrm and they don't have normal cap which is what I'm farming for.
>>574498809Stop asking for lobbies and start hosting your own.
>>574498891well then do the skellies, it's more efficient for what you are farming for
>>574498891Spam the skeleton
>>574495345they gutted characters like Ferry and were somewhat quick on getting rid of Io SBA memes. What makes Fediel good is supposedly along the same lines.
>>574498102i hope youre the same anon who did this shit in granblue versus
>want to play Katalina because she's cool and her defensive utility and healing was at least decent back during Proud Lucilius>the master trees make her worse by either removing all attack skills from her or making all the problems surrounding Ares even more apparentHer heal doesn't even do anything anymore since everyone either has half a million health or Celestial Ventus. I haven't gone into a lobby with her since getting the perk that makes the heal give shield instead but is the "shield equal to 5% of max health" shield equal to 5% of max health of the other players or Katalina? If the latter, giving her all the health in the world at least gives something she can do even if Cag's shield/heal is just objectively better anyway...
is there a trick to farming this shit? barely get 2k per run and the later nodes take a ridiculous amount
>very nearly lost the Hexa because the Maglielle refused to chain burst for some reason>neither her nor the Fediel had War Ele>without the Yodha we unironically wouldve lost thatfucking hell
>>574498928I always ask first to see if there's interest lil broCalm down
What does immortal crab do when you have it again? I feel my Bea build is incredibly solid:Maxed Damage CapMaxed StunMaxed Supp DamageMaxed Celestial LumenMaxed GarrisonFatebreakerBerserk Echo (Spartan Echo on summon)Maxed Steel NervesImproved Dodge/Guts/Potion Hoarder/Nimble OnslaughtBoth Character SigsMaxed TerminusStout Heart+Damage Cap on BehemothWhat more do I need other than turbo afking for the best summons possible?
>>574499095There's always interest I've found. All lobbies fill within 5 minutes
>>574499056If you ONLY want to farm MSP, Revenge of the ooze in chaos+ drops between 60-100k depending on if you have path to mastery sigils and how many slimes you killOther stages give less but let you farm something else at the same time
>>574498257Dummy helps you ballpark damage potential and then you have to use your brain to ballpark how that translates to a real fight. Completely abysmal dummy numbers is not doing Kat any favors for translating to a real fight
>>574498809For what lil nigga?
>>574499253that's not MSP it's the conflux tree
The World is kind of based, why are we fighting him again? His ideals aren't wrong. Fraux comes off like a stacy bullying a based chud in highschool when she talks to him.
>>574499056you can farm the chaos++ slimes or do chaos++ four dragons
>>574494878Alright I have severely underestimated how easy that shit is to stack and just how much meter playing on this style gives. I can't believe how ignorant I can play on vane
>>574499265.t retard
>>574499304The World is a nihilistic larper retard.
>>574499304>why are we fighting him again?Because we don't want the universe to be remade?
>>574499302Oh yeah, no idea then Conflux is easy enough with no upgrades, haven't really paid attention to the tree
>>574499304Imagine being alive and then suddenly dyingThat's what The World wants to do to everyone
>>574499371anon isn't wrong though, mostly. some characters do get more damage potential in fights than dummies like eustace and percival, but in most cases if your dmg isn't good on a dummy it's not likely to be good on a boss.but that's just talking about dmg alone, support isn't really part of the conversation because its value is pretty subjective and it requires brain tax to understand that
>>574499304Never trust a blue man that you can see or almost see the genitals of.
>>574499416>>574499516I want a universe where I can breed erunes and draphs though? Make me an evoker The World, I'll fuck danchou up.
>>574499694Well that's on you, no need to take it out on the rest of us, schoolshooter-kun
>spend millions of msp on beato >heard she's low tier >decide to swap>spend millions of msp and dozens of hours refarming for song>find out she's even worse than beato...I hate my life
>>574499439it is but considering it's by far the most efficient stuff to transcend all the characters doing it faster would be great
>>574499940If you're so worried about tierlists how about you look at one before going for a different character?
>>574499940good thing you cheat engined msp to spend more time and less time farming, right
>>574499694Who is to say that you will retain your consciousness and memories as you have them now if he reboots the entire universe? The (You) that comes to exist in the new universe has no connection to (You). It's like starting a new save file in a video game, not New Game+
>>574499940Do Fed next, maybe she'll get nerfed the moment you finish building her with that luck
>we got the retarded one instead of the OGIT SHOULD'VE BEEN HER
>>574498734Hexa drops the fire dragon, no difference to get it from 4D tho
>>574499556>Anon isn't wrong Retarded for thinking anyone would assume it wasn't you still.
I feel so ineffective when I play; bots are better than me
>when i awkwardly wait on CDs doing jack shit with Eustace cause i dont want to waste my Flamek stacks
>>574500278What are you doing wrong? Not enough damage or not dodging/blocking properly?
>>574500337Just reload and start dodging?
>>574500368Both
So whats the general min/max autism build for perfect summons? Currently just need a war elemental to get the big 4 people talk about. Is stunx3, hpx2, imortal shell, 3-5 def or 1-3 char sigils still what people are running with damage sub stats?How bad is the imortal shell grind? im like 3 crabs away from base game atm not sure how hard the new ones are to get.
>>574500494>and start dodging?
Farming infinite jobbers cum joinN7HT QVP9 7U5C 7115pw: galleon
>>574500745>How bad is the imortal shell grind?30min-1h. Immortal shell is also a meme unless you have specifically built your charecter so you have one free slot
>>574499940Beato may be low tier on damage, but she's high tier fun for retardmaxxing 1 button facetank everything gameplay. I love cute retards
>>574499940>friend that never plays anything but "badass man" characters in every game says he wants to try a melee character after playing Eugen, Rackam and Eustace>says he wants to play Fediel>it's very obvious he just wants to follow online tier lists because Fediel is not a melee character and far away from what he likes design-wise>bully him about chasing tier lists and lying until he pumps millions of MSP into SiegfriedI can't fathom the level of MMO brain required to not just play the character(s) you think are cool instead of only following online guides and doing everything to optimise the fun out of the game
>>574500745Minmax doesn't care about stoutheart/potion hoarder.Shove a fatebreaker in the 4th slot
>>574501009It isn't MMO brain, your friend is just a normalfag.
Is it even worth slotting the revive for Cog in the support master trait? You get so little damaging skills if you slot the heal, buff and revive.
>>574500853full?
>>574501009>Fediel is not a melee characterOne mastery does not a ranged make
Can you quit the chapter as soon as you get the crab?
Please explain the gimmick with Bubs, I keep eating dirt on his Chaos++ boss fight, the one in conflux is too weak and he dies too fast to learn what he actually does.
>>574501421the majority of their moves being ranged makes them ranged thoughand if they spent 90% of the time away from the enemy to do damage then I'd call that a ranged character for sure
Remember to love your neechangor else
>>574500941I haven't had trouble fitting it in all my builds
Bahamut Infinity is the easiest fight in the tier by far, making Id jump around an arena the size of China was a fucking troll though
>>574501647>miasma hands>stomp>gap closer that does damage in melee>parryHow odd.
>Percival's easy ass 9 stack special does as much as Tweyen's once per battle 2 minutes CD skillHow do I make her useful
Are the Wrightstone main stats not even worth considering anymore? Nobody needs crit rate and everyone wants to use stun as sigils due to mastery trait buff it seems. Are we all fishing for that 2nd and 3rd trait these days?
>>574501462yes
I've been building up and trying out support Danchou and my SBA gen is pure ass. I guess it's because I'm constantly throwing out support skills instead of actually hitting the boss. Do I gotta get more uplift (17) or swap my skills around for some that can actually hit the boss? I'm running Substitute/Phalanx/Veil/Armor Break currently. I guess I can swap out Veil for something else and drop the partywide 10% supplementary damage that it provides
>>574501852>stomp>meleeAre you anon's friend by chance coping really hard about your obvious tierwhore attempt or what? Melee means making direct contact with the target by the way
Still maining my wife, salty low dps cucks won't shame me into playing someone else.
Can I farm war element spartan berserk summon in chaos ++?
Yeah I'm going to try to use seofon, I don't care if he's supposedly weak, the infinite skill thing seems fun as fuck even if it'll probably be terrible outside of a slow or stun window
>>574501951Smugman and yoda must be ranged as well then.Fediel is more melee than Cag is.
>>574501625Orbs/Tethers ; Block Red Dodge YellowBring alot of stun to break his Purple phaseDont fall off
>>574501997Yes. But war element really isn't worth doing because the world takes way longer than Bubs and Luci and his droprate for Rolan is way lower. You might get 1 Rolan an hour of afking.
>>574501349Yea
>>574502056That's really sad that you're comparing Yoda and Siete with Fediel "melee" upkeep. Why this desperation to pretend you're playing with the big boys up front?
I just want to play a hot chick that does top tier damage and is braindead to play>FedielIs ugly as fuck>HarvinsAre for pedoshits>Narma-Too difficultSo who's for me
>>574501991>your wifeShe's for Miach only retard.
>>574501856Farming the Ahriman quest with her for people? She's a beast in that stage!
>>574502235hi
>>574502223I play Io though?All the 'ranged' shitters spamming orbs are going to be in for an awakening when they learn, she is indeed, a melee character.Refute the cag point retard.smug/yoda were an example using your retarded ass classification for melee
>>574501991as soon as she gets nerfed you'll jump to a new "wife" LMAO
>>574502235Probably a bullet to the brain, since you're fucking retarded.
>>574502405What am I supposed to "refute" cag's point? who is calling cag a melee? mad man.
>>574502353Neither of them are Top tier. But they are hot so...
>>574502235ghanda
I just need Shalem and Galleon... Please Fukuhara...
>>574502297I did not give you permission to post a picture of me
>>574500941The only characters that might have trouble fitting it in are characters like Narmaya that want all of Quick Cooldown, Cascade, and Quick ChargeYou can fit it in for most of the roster so long as all your summons and weapon imbuement stones all have useful skills on them
wtf was i suppose to look around the save room
If their attacks are boosted by Concentrated Fire, then they're a ranged character. If not, then melee. Simple.
the other thread must be so boring that he wants attention here
>never have played anything GBF related until Relink>Fall completely in love with Bea to the point she's become my top vidya waifu....what has happened to me
>>574478650Weeb
Holy shit you guys weren't kidding about how easy it is to hit damage cap. Even with every damage boosting sigil and skill removed I'm hitting over 100% of the cap. It's actually crazy how people are doing 200% non damage and are none the wiser.
>>574502297>not making him your wife(male) too
>>574502183Those are indeed some full breasts
>>574502476>all her comboes are close ranged>her collapse needs comboes to do anything>40% of her damage skills are melee, or drive her into melee range and two of the ranged options went unbuffed into ERNow compare Fediel skills, how focused her mastery trees are on the melee gameplay, how the orbs are the focus of a single tree and are normally obtained through melee gameplay
>>574502808It's also crazy how they never emphasize paying attention to the damage cap other than notes during the loading screenMost normals will just think of stacking attack like what you'd do in most games
How does one make the big damage numbers with Maglielle?I have her fully equipped but I still play with fear evading a lot and generally falling behind in damage compared to others.Does she have a preferred rotation?
>>574500941>you have specifically built your charecter so you have one free slot5 basic stat sigils for max dmg cap4 def/supp sigils for most efficient hp/def benefit3 flex slots
>>574502965> how the orbs are the focus of a single tree and are normally obtained through melee gameplaythat's so cute, fediel anon.you're no exactly fooling anyone with your "I'm Io player pls believe me!" either.It's the focus of one treethat every fediel online is usingand they do a single claw swipe to then throw 6 orbs and repeat this till the thing is dead.Most or all fediel plays ranged, regardless of your mental retardation about how she's totally melee, you can queue any fediel gameplay video out there and they will be the exact same shit. Embarrassing.
>>574502808It's kind of hard to tell since you also get damage cap from other sources mid battle too, so I gave up testing accurately.
>>574502235Sorry other than Fed the top tier damage dealers are all dudesA bit below that there's Narmaya, Zeta, Io, and Charlotta
>>574500950>1 button facetank retardmaxxingWhen will you Bea-tards learn you ain't actually on the unga bunga team and that you're just retarded and bleeding on the floor constantly? Real unga bungas are stuff like Charlotta, that one Sieg tree, Gallanza and UNFORTUNATELY Fediel until they take her fucking balls away.
Why is this hidden in Lyria's journal?
>>574503487Gold clock lets you unga bunga, but getting to gold clock isn't unga bunga.
>>574503360concession accepted or whatever the fuck you retards say when the other party is a nigger.
>>574503579So is this the excuse why we're playing a nerfed Maglielle compared to the one we fight in the story
This game sure is dramatic.
>>574503648Right, that is what you're doing.Next time just stay in your corner instead of trying to pretend that the character who's gameplay is 90% of the time throwing gigantic homing orbs from a mile away is a melee character.
>>574503775>>574503648
>>574503672>>574503579Mags power is money and unfortunately for her she's a cheap fuck
How bad is Song, really?Give it to me straight, I can take it.
Any conclusion on if War Element on summon is completely broken with AI party or if it's just a visual bug with the damage numbers?
>>574503637And that build up alone is what keeps you from actually joining us at the table. The rest of us don't have that build up/nuance. We hit skills, maybe parry and mash/hold one button at all times.
>>574503975Go into the dummy and test it anon
>>574502785she cute
>>574503886Fun and strong if you play herKinda dum if the AI plays her
>>574502980The shield mastery trait line is best for you if you're avoiding getting hit all the time.
>>574503886weakest potential dps in the gamein actual play you will probably beat most shitters out there as long as you upkeep that low potential, which is easy as she has a low skill ceilling.
>>574503995>hit skills>maybe parrynot true unga bunga youre out
>>574503975Visual bug from my testing. The damage is the same on the parser, same maxes
>>574504034>Song aka a character who can't even break 250m dummy parse with maxed terminus >StrongWhy must you lie on the internet? Is it fun?
>>574503360NTA but akshually it's much better to dunk the balls straight down at melee which is like a 50+% increase in damage :^)Character is not busted at all
>>574504132Retard.
>>574504030>>574502785You're attracted to very dumb but wholesome and honest women.Also, losing with Bea doesn't feel bad because jobbing is her specialty.
>>574499941The fights take 2 seconds regardless most of the time is menus and portals
>>574503873Mommy moneybags, please come back so I don't lose the gun whenever I cast hammer
>>574502980I only use her occasionally but all I do is spam the tornado finisher while weaving in the skills like the hammer and pistol. Then sword piss whenever a link attack or link time happens. She can aim the swords while evading so I don't find that to be a problem, and like the other guy said just run the shield if you're worried about getting hit.
>>574504223>ranged attack on melee character does more damage in meleewhodathunkit
>>574504034everytime i do infi pubs and i see song i'm already prepared to instaleave if boss is still at 40% and timer is already at 5,5 mins leftfor an eternal she gets outperformed crazy hard by 13 y/o girl and <100cm girls
>>574502449Nuh-uh
Fraux is confusing, can she effectively swap stances anytime and keep the combo or what's happening? The delay is very sensitive and I keep accidentally swapping
>>574504553When you hit the combo finisher will determine if you switch stance or keep the current one. You'll see the button change its name in the UI.
is there any character that actually help the team during full assist in something like luci chaos++ ? even my eugen just stands at the corner doing nothing even though he has a sniping mode.
>>574504170Danke
Infinity session4X5E 4RCU JA7V 1XDEPW: floor
>>574504553The two meters are a lie, you just spam normal attacks and skills until they're both full and then spam like 5 skills in a row before doing it all again. She's the most unga bunga character.
>Fail my first mission in a long ass time in Chao+ doing Bestial Blaze.>Playing Siegfried and dont go down once.>2 Beatrix and a Tweyen are my teamates.Yea checks out.
when the fuck does the game start dumping centrums on me you guys said it wouldi just beat chaos++ versa and i still cant upgrade because i have no centrums where do i GO
>>574504856Eustace depending on how he's built will actually move towards the enemy and keep himself in attack range.
>>574502235ragebait
Is Tweyen really that fucking bad or are you retarfs acting out a skit
>>5745049283/4
>>574503487>Real unga bungas are stuff like CharlottaBox has one of the highest skill ceiling in the game that requires you to have perfect no hit runs to keep your buff up. She is also one of the most tactical classes but full auto sister such as yourself would never know that.
>>5745049284/4
>>574505234>Box has one of the highest skill ceiling in the game that requires you to have perfect no hit runs to keep your buff upOnly if you're playing Diamond Cutter. Everyone else is on Noble Order or Invincible.>She is also one of the most tactical classes but full auto sister such as yourself would never know that.Spamming ploonge is the same thing as just mashing the full auto slashes bruh.
Why do people run two character sigils (with a 2nd unrelated trait like damage cap + supp dmg) instead of running one character sigil with both character traits?
>>574505446Can't use warpath as a secondary trait on character sigils without save editing I think
>>574499304I don't trust him
grim
>>574505234>taking dmg lowers level by 1casual shit. eustace is harder
>>574504948i find her really bad for unga bunga since she has like no defenses whatsoever. the crux tree is the only one with damage immune and the damage from 1 skill isn't very good even with all the buffs. it's really weird since she's a pretty good sustain in the gacha but in here her drain buff lasts like 10 seconds and barely heals you at all, i just don't get it
is ferry goodno i'm not talking about her smelli'm asking about her dpsor is she another low tier shitter like beato and song
Everyone knows what the most popular characters are, but I'm actually curious what the LEAST popular characters are. The popularity disparity in this game is so massive that even though I've played at least a hundred hours since the release of Ragnarok there are characters I don't even remember seeing anyone else play in any pub, whereas Fediel seems to have something like a 30 percent (conservative estimate) pickrate.
>>574506112play support ferry
>>574506112the petless path has average dpsthe summoner path is low tier
where do i get the damage meter? i dont see it on nexus unless im blind
>>574506118I've seen only one Rosetta and it was because I played her.
>>574506112Her damage is average at best. Any Ferry player you see uses her out of love meta be damned.
>>574506208blindchama....https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/662https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/596
>>574506118If good, playedIf bad, playedIf girl, up a tierIf guy, down a tierIf big damage, up a tierIf medium damage/good support, up a tierIf played AT range, up a tier
>>574506174isnt petless cucked by overdrive because it's all atk%
>>574506174what does average meanbe more specificis she a shitter is a she a meme that drags runs down like song
>>574506118KatalinaEugenRosettaRackamGhanda
do you savescum transmarvel?
>>574506364tyty...
>>574506367>if badwas meant to be not-played
Which one would people hate less online in infinity quests?>a high damage build that pushes the potential of what the character can output, but I die a few times during the quest to lower utility/defensive help>a high survivability build that rarely or never dies, but the damage will suffer for it
>>574470970How viable is solo play in this game? And by "solo play" I mean without any NPC teammate helpers. I want to play Zeta solo and maybe Narmaya solo as well. Also, is there a way of turning off damage numbers or at least making them tiny instead of covering up the screen?
>>574506118Ghandagoza, Oigen, Rosetta
>>574500853Another day another 0 good summonsThanks for the runs guys
>>574500853final bahamut not bad i didnt have this one yet
>>574506506former, you have 2 revive pots and you probably have 2 guts and 2 auto revive too. the thing is that if you aren't pushing phases you die to shit very fast in all the fights
i can't believe galleon is in versus but not relink
What are the Lore implications of a party with 3 of one character?
GGsI only got complete garbage and also this.Fuck this stupid faggot.
>>574506506i hate tanky niggers that do nothing, no different from FoF lancelots
>>574506525It might be doable up until the really hard bosses where you might run out of time due to not enough damage
>>574506375no it has all the multipliers. supp, dmg%, cap and atk. the big spike in damage at 9 stacks is also a motion value multiplier to her aerial combo
>>574506450What choice do we have?
>>574506797Playing what it gives you?
Neechang is going to get the first alt costume right?
>>574506838bikini fediel please understand
>>574506506infinity has a pretty unforgiving damage check for the side objective, so i would always prefer higher damage, that being said if you're bringing a dps loadout you'd better be able to push out the damage regardless of deathsor you can just use the broken ass character fediel who has a braindead combo that doesn't require any setup and has self mirror image and debuff immune
>>574506838im surprised they have not just imported the versus skins.
>>574506827Okay, thanks for the Stronghold/Life on the Line sigil game, I'll slot that shit right away
honestly i think conflux is a fundamentally broken gamemode since 99% of your power comes from outside the mode, the entire thing revolves around fishing for cursed relics that you can very easily tank the effects of and just snowball to the end with an extra +150% damage cap which really isn't that much
>>574506025Fraux has really good mobility in general, like the lunge and the backwards jump that dodges most attacks. Her Drain can be constantly reapplied and gets boosted by her EX trait (you can also give the boosted version to the whole party but it doesn't really matter), so she can heal back all her health by just attacking more. And finally her Essence Tree negates attacks entirely while she's using skills from her tarot card mechanic, as in nothing will affect her whatsoever or apply any status effects. Basically there's just an endless loop of attacking to build meter, healing damage back by attacking and attacking while not being affected. All you do is punch and kick things.This isn't OP or anything mind you, she's still just average as far as I can tell. I'm just saying that she's the epitome of brain dead but fun.
>>574506827
>>574507024Conflux was fun at first, then you realise it has very little variance and gets old fast. They can easily spice it up but I can't see them doing that
Spent all day building Vaseraga and I'm a little depressed at how easy and broken he is compared to my main (the humble beatrix)
>>574507024I was expecting a Blazblue Entropy Effect kind of roguelike from all the promo material that stressed EXCITING off-kilter build varieties but they're just more of DMG caps
>>574507190She'd understand, that's her senpai
>>574507148Why they decided the pre-bubs boss is always the same will forever elude me.Or just the bosses in general.You always fight the blackguard goblin
>>574506620I can't believe Fediel isn't in both games. I wanna play giant black dragon in all the games.
>>574507341>>574506620This but ewiyar
>>574507190Is Vas still stronger than Gallanza?
Can someone tell me if its safe to waste another half a week farming for millions msp and weapon materials to level ferryBecause I did that with Beato and Song and I want to kms from their low dps
What's the best way to learn how to into the end game quests?I just tried the final Lucilius and got filtered hard.
I know what I'm about to ask is tedious, but I'd really appreciate it if as many people who are willing would help create a small sample size test of the overall character usage.In the main menu -> co-op settings -> player list, the game will populate the 50 most recent players you've played with. Each player has a "last seen" section. Could you tally all the available "last seen" characters in that list and post the result? Again, I understand this is kind of a tedious ask but if just a handful of people do this it could create a pretty reasonable approximation of the game's character usage distribution. Here's my list.
>>574507734Oh and before anyone asks why it doesn't add up to 50, some people set their profiles to private which is just par for the course.
>>574507575I can't fucking do this msp farming shit anymore, they ruined slimeblasting and made each individual character need several million in total to cap now, then they capped the amount you can even stockpile so you have to spend it before you overcap. I refuse to touch another character because they've made it so fucking miserable to invest in one now
>>574507575Ferry is like bottom 3 DPS.
>>574502709They show up right in front of you , you will know
>>574507717Keep playing until you learn and beat them. Don't be that dumbass that is focusing on the swords at the start of the Lucillius fight. The rest is just learning the patterns and not getting hit.
>>574507575Beato is mid tier deeps and very tanky. She isn't low like Song is.
>>574507090i don't like the essence tree since it significantly slows down your gauge gain and the nodes are worse than insight. funnily enough it's pretty good for ai fraux since it won't constantly dodge out of dead lands
>>574507575brother what in gods name made you think Ferry would deal damage?
>>574507190Lore accurate Vaseraga vs Retarded Bea, she never stood a chance anon.
If Fediel is number 1 is Charlotta number 2
>>574507575>low dpsThat depends. Do you consider "low dps" to be anything that isn't Fediel levels? Because in that case, there's one character, Fediel.
>>574506112I have fun playing with her, but mostly you're support/stunner, your damage won't keep up with everyone else most of the time
>>574507974number 2 is probably percy. i have never seen a vas so idk how much damage he does in a real fight
>>574507959The Society event in the Gacha where Zeta has to sit in his lap is fucking hilarious, and Ilsa is just bullying Bea
>>574508031are you guys using sba/link time chaining to skip phasesi know fediel has broken sba gen but idk about the other 3 jobbers
>>574507858>>574507898>>574507939>>574508031Jewtube has a 60s dummy parse for ferry dealing 451mIs that good or bad
Do I need to kill Beelzebub if farming conflux 5? What does he give?
>>574504948>>574504742Right, so there's not much of a trick I just delay my input if I'm in the wrong bar and keep Unga Bunging
>>574508098Why does Bea talk to her sword in the Gacha
>>574508156bad because that dmg is based off an attack boost buff which doesnt work in overdrive xD
>>574504216Song is not even burst dps also she has a 351m
>>574508156>dummy parses
>>574507848>>574507575I don't get the MSP complaint.At least with that I can just turn my brain off and auto some slime stages, or even some later chaos++ stuff that can double as summon/material farm. I can take a shit and farm MSP.Fucking WEAPONS on the other hand make me never want to level new characters. Having to forge and upgrade half a dozen weapons, awaken two of them (that involves shit like excavillion mats), all the fortitude crystals, fucking refinium (that I didn't even know was a bottle neck before I started trying new characters), and the assortment of horse shit materials you need to spend time going through all these different annoying bosses to collect. This shit is hell, MSP is nothing compared to it. And you have to be there selecting all the quests along the way so auto can only do so much it needs user input to at least select all the different stages, or go through conflux.
>>574506112She's very tight despite being dead and really mobile
>>574508152that was with a random group after 2 hours of getting groups that failed to even stop The End in the beginning, we didn't skip any phases I think and was actually kinda close towards the last bit
>>574507538Gallanza isn't strong at all. Where are you getting this info?
>>574506112Why do people keep calling beato badshes literally solid
>>574508372>>At least with that I can just turn my brain off and auto some slime stages, or even some later chaos++ stuff that can double as summon/material farm. I can take a shit and farm MSP.I tried that and the game still requires SOME input to stop them from just standing there out of range, also, at most you'll get 100k MSP from slimeblasting roughly, so have fun doing that a 100 more times for every character, fucking hell
My favorite thing about dummy parses was when someone asked why nobody played Vaseraga even though he has the highest dummy parse, and Vaseraga's dummy parse vs. actual gameplay is bar none the greatest disparity by an order of magnitude
>>574508493People get filtered by the easy gold clock mechanic and see dummy tests as a score of how actual infinity content goes.
>Beato is mid>Song is bottom 1>Now /gbfrg/ tells me ferry is dogshitWhat do I play then>NarmayaHas a bad stereotype online>Harvinpotatos/IoAre for pedoshits>ZetaUgly and annoyingwhy is this game so gay
>>574507734Rosetta main. Interesting results. I was farming resources for my other charactesr and doing chaos+ quests. I know in infinity my lobbies are all charlotte, frau and fediel.
>>574508486I never said he was, I don't know how strong the new guy is so I wanted to know if he's a stronger big lad than Vaseraga
>>574508197All the society weapons are sentient.Bea's actually likes her
>>574508626Weird considering shes 500m+ at this point in dummy tests what more could they want
>>574508679Gallanza is pretty weak, unless you go his skill spam master traits. Even if you do go skill spam, you'd want to kys with how fucking clunky it is compared to his other two no damage master traits. Turbine is pretty brain dead in a good way, but the other one isn't really that great since X in deathmatch finale doesn't do much damage.
>>574508335Wait if Song is 351m on the dummy that's notoriously bad for her (small hitbox and 60s timer not playing to two crown mastery strengths i.e her best mastery at all)Doesn't that mean she's way stronger than most people assume?
>>574508759The Moon event where Embrasque is inert or whatever and Bea has it propped up on a chair rooting for it is fucking hilarious
>>574508679Vaseraga is like top 3 if you can play him
>>574507908It's definitely not her best tree, but her other trees aren't exactly that interesting either unfortunately. You can also tank with them too, but you've got to sacrifice DPS by not using Terminus and my point was mainly just to tell anon that you don't need to be too worried about her basic combos.>>574508181You can do one of these,>keep going until the combo finisher in one stance and then keep pressing Heavy Attack until it switches to the other side>stop the combo and just press Heavy Attack to switch from a neutral stance at any time>use her unqiue sigil that boosts gauge gain when you do a delayed kick after a Normal Attack (there will be a specific name for it) and get in the habit of that She's not too strict about how you do it unlike other meter characters, and you want to mix it all in depending on circumstances anyway. Like if you only need a little meter to fill up, then it might be better to just switch stances quickly before a combo so you get the buffs or effects set up.
>>574507734
They may as well add Ilsa to the game if they got the rest of the Society
>>574508634go play fediel then
>>574508770post the high dummy runs I gotta see this
>>574508224what does this mean does overdrive remove buffs or something
>>574508637>>574508947Thank you! I'll keep spamming the thread for more people to participate. I'd really like to get a decent sample size going.
>>574508972Might as well add Cassius, Isaac, and Yatima too
>>574509026https://x.com/meeeruuu1106/status/2078418383314530759
>>574508878you won't see tcs on any good run either. hell i had a mid infi luci run that was 6 mins. tcs is just shit because a good party will never let you proc it
>>574509020>brown and uglyFuck no. I rather pick Lance and mash Y at that point.
>>574509065buffs on you and debuffs on bosses don't apply their bonuses when boss is overdrive
>>574509225Even atk down?
>>574509189yeah I bet you would homo
>>574509065atk boost and def down increase your damage past cap normally. however they stop doing that in overdrive and they go back to working like how they worked in base relink. so if a character's master traits and dummy numbers rely a lot on ATK % buffs like petless ferry, they're actually even more fucked over in fights
>>57450773414 - Fediel 5 - Fraux 5 - Maglielle2 - Song2 - Ferry 2 - Rackam 2 - Gallanza 2 - Narmaya 2 - Beatrix 2 - Cagliostro 2 - Vaseraga 1 - Charlotta 1 - Id 1 - Djeeta 1 - Sandalphon 1 - Siegfried 1 - Eustace 1 - Lancelot
I was genuinely in disbelief when someone said buffs don't apply to overdrive. Even when I saw the evidence I was convinced it was just a generic defense buff conflated with buff negation, but literally no matter how many buffs I have my attacks do the same exact damage against enemies in overdrive. It's absolute madness. The people who designed this game's stats and numbers systems is an insane person. They must never be allowed near a computer ever again.
>Wawa my character dps is badAnons who give a fuck, if you like the character then play it, your character dps wont matter if you keep getting downed nonstop anyway. I already beat infinity bubsy with a katalina that never got downed and she had higher dps than some trash fediels Ive seen around.Just have fun and learn how to play your main.
>>574509265>he wants to bait me into pouring farm and resources into a character whose knees are gonna get chopped off in the very first patchretard
You can save loadouts for sigilsbut is there a way to do loadouts for mastery trait if I quickly want to swap to another style?
>>574509295>so if a character's master traits and dummy numbers rely a lot on ATK % buffs like petless ferry?petless ferry has dmg %, supp, cap and a motion value multiplier
>>574508902I have got the sigil, didn't realize the boosted gain only applies if it's after a Normal instead of a Finisher.She can also swap to the other finisher by delaying it, looks of it she has 3 generous windows to swap stances mid while going Unga Bunga.She really forces me to be clicking fast not hit the swaps accidentally, maybe not fast compared to Lancelot & co but I'm used to playing Vaseraga, Beatrice & other less spamclick heavy crewmates.I suppose the Unga Bunga you mentioned comes from he safety by i-framing on swaps or skills because there seems to be a lot of ceiling in her gauge gain
>>574509157TCS's cooldown is only 150 seconds with all the reduction perks
>>574509445loadouts save your mastery traits too beabrothe only thing it doesn't save is your summon loadout which is fucking annoying when you want to take on or off your stout heart summon
>>574509157What are you talking about? You'll get off 2cs every time in infinity. I'm begging you guys to play the game instead of shitposting
>>574508372>conflux gets advertised as easy way to get mats>wow look at those bajillon mats i need to max new character, lets try conflux>rng drops option at end result doesn't list the one i actually need twiceafter i max mag and fraux legitimately i'll just cheat all the mats for my AI party
Before the thread ends can we get a honest assessment of Song's ranking in the dps tier listIs she really a bottom 1 jobber like people make her out to be
>>574509634yeah you'll get it when the quest has like a minute and a half left, what's the point? for 100% cap up that's insanely diluted and an atk buff that doesn't work in overdrive? oh my god but we get a nuke that doesn't even do anywhere near the damage of a single percy zerraissen that he's been shitting out all fight
title drop
>>574509849top or bottom she's horrible to play so who cares,
>>574509918>ranged in relink aka game journalist mode>horrible to play I thought we were going to stop shitposting for a moment
>>574509539>didn't realize the boosted gain only applies if it's after a Normal instead of a Finisher.Specifically it only applies on the Delayed Attack and it's prompt only appears after a Normal Attack, the Finishers that change stances are a different attack that you'll do instead if you miss the timing.>She really forces me to be clicking fast not hit the swaps accidentally>I suppose the Unga Bunga you mentioned comes from he safety by i-framingI know unga bunga to just mean cave man brain type of gameplay of just rushing the opponent without thinking much basically, not specifically tank builds or big hammers.
I will impregnate a dragon
Does Beatrix still terrorize the fighting game? Last I checked everyone hated fighting her
what do i farm for War Ele and Fate Breaker? or am i suppossed to keep killing the Infinitys for those? i did Faa a couple times and those Referees were incredibly shit, the Babus werent particularly better either, i did get a Rolan with Supp but the Dmg Cap was kinda low
is the new DLC wee pincer sigil actually good?
what should my sigil loadouts look like while working through chaos+?
>>574510092so long as its 50% or more its completely good
>>574510089Bea is the best generic shoto but she isnt top tier. Top tier is Vaseraga, Lowain, Metera, and Ferry
>>574509849looking at all infi runs i did in logs song is the new base game ferry aka tier 10 badbottom rank dps 70% of the times and the other 30% always placed 3rd
>>574507734>>574507843Fraux 7Fediel 5Beatrix 5Sandalphon 4Eustace 4Song 4Io 3Maglielle 3Narmaya 2Yodarha 2nothing/private 3Ghandagoza 1Gran 1Gallanza 1Charlotta 1Siete 1Rackam 1Siegfried 1Cagliostro 1If you want any context I was mostly playing Infinity quests today.
>>574510167yeah, about 5% gain vs overdrive and 9% outside of overdrive
>>574510010She wants to be in close range as a ranged character and all her attacks, ALL of them make her recoil backwards, into aoes if you're not careful. You have to charge her shots so in between actually hitting things you waiting for a sec whereas a melee can just slap the boss nonstop, I haven't played Eustace/Eugen but I bet they can just shoot off the cuff too. She has a skill that the bosses can just resist, she has another skill she cant even use if your team is actually strong and if they're not the skill is nowhere near strong enough to justify it's cooldown. After a million years you get to use her one fun attack, Hail.
have not seen a single kat
>>574510063>the Finishers that change stances are a different attack that you'll do instead if you miss the timing.I get what you mean but the finishers are not a miss just another opportunity, I can do both back to back for a sliver of gauge gain on the inactive stance.>unga bunga to just mean cave man brain Yeah I don't consider Unga Bunga to nust be about design or character fantasy, Varseraga being unkillable feels unga bunga until you realize you still need to be doing damage charging attacks against sonic the hedgehog. It just feels like Fraud would grief her gauge gain and I imagine her damage if you just spam without thinking or stick to a single attack rotation like Vane
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>>574510312I've been seeing more Ghandas than Gallanzas at this point which is kind of sad.
>>574510390>eustaceNot nearly on the same level, but trying to strafe shot into attack patterns with the way the lock on works is a trial.
>>574508538is it because he's the equivalent of monhun's great sword and constantly has to do full charged hits and can't do it against bosses who spam teleports/cutscenes?
>>5745049283/4 again
>>574505234de arimasuyo
>>574510404She's not hot enough ig but the change really helped her
>you can whiff perfect executions during downtime to build sieg perfect stackslol
>>574510297>Beatrix>Not top tierLOL LMAO
>>5745049284/4 again
>>574505234I don't understand why a Harvin wants to be tall? It's like an Erune being ashamed of their ears, like why would they be?
>>574510821Resource generators do that if the req isn't hitting, yeah.Io/Yoda can build orbs/perfect timing into a short finisher for example
Is Baeatrix even close to Sieg
>>574509903You'll fire off 2cs before most bosses even have less than 80% in infinity idk what you are even saying. That's just the gameplay hand she was dealt. >Muh percy damageyeah who cares if you care about damage why would you play anyone but fediel
Why is Fediel super autistic?
>>574510682Simple answer is yes.MH greatsword has insane crit draw builds that still put out good damage while Varseraga uses immortality to attack when he shouldn't
Your next DLC character
>>574511160Spent majority of her time being a dragon doing not human things.
>>574510467>the finishers are not a miss just another opportunityI just meant to trigger her Unique Sigil you've only got a short window before it reverts to her normal XYY finisher loop, you don't need to constantly aim for the delayed kicks because the buff has a 20 second timer.>It just feels like Fraud would grief her gauge gain and I imagine her damage if you just spam without thinking or stick to a single attack rotation like VaneShe's way more flexible than other combo finisher based characters. There are better combos for meter gain for sure, but you want to be constantly mixing things up kind of like Tweyen whose damage comes from uptime if that makes sense. You can dodge cancel a lot of her attacks and do short combos in between the enemy attacks to always be gaining meter, basically she's a low skill floor character with a decent skill ceiling if you want to play her well.
Apr 1, 2027Ver. 2.0.x Update Informationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz_l0xLZyDE
>>574510934It's Charlotta personal insecurity, a character quirk.I should have made that post more absurd, it's too subtle
is the final terminus uncap in infinity?
>>574510934She worries people don't take her seriously as a knight captain because of it, and doesn't realize nobody really cares but her. It's an inferiority complex.
>>574510404who
>>574502785>>574504030For me, it was Metera with VS.
>>574511672>>574511554Literally internalised racism?
>>574511112stop defending this worthless character
>>574511560Yes, after you beat every infinity fight
>>574511461Does she have any way to chain the XY? I often miss Varseraga's X>roll>YY zoomingAlso missing some cancels for all the skill spam
>>574511815Unironically she can get 200+ Ahrimans solo on that one quests, too bad she's not the Slime killer I thought she'd be because they made them tanky as fuck for some reason
>>574511205
>trying to merge double Supp>2 supp+rupie sigils>1/4 chances>it's been 10 chances so far and it won't roll double supp
>>574512160SIERO'D
We could have had the best dragon instead of the worst
Everyones complaining about nerfs, but who do you think needs BUFFS?
>>574512258Gallanza. He does no damage and his master traits are such a mess.
>>574512239We didn't get wam/lu woh, and picrel certainly isn't the cat
>>574512258Danchou, just fucking get rid of that shit art mechanic already it's nothing but aids
>>574510934Harvins are seen as a magic only race by other races. Charlotta is the only playable harvin that is a martial artist without magic. And she is insecure about it as >>574511672 said.A potato not-rashid has a kino event about the universes harvin magic reliance.
It should've been her instead of Fediel
>>57451236>only playable harvin that is a martial artist without magicwait what about yoda?
>>574512369Retard>>574512258Gallanza/Kat/Ferry
>>574511794Kinda. Her fate episode goes into a little more detail. There are at least a couple people in the order who openly don't respect her just because she's a harvin.
>>574511461i have a sneaking suspicion that her blessing sigil isn't actually working right now. it doesn't even have a buff icon despite being a 20s buff. something smells fishy
>>57451181598% of the cast in this game is worthless anyway
>>574512512Yeah, that'd be me.
>>574511994I don't really know how to word it, but you can use the two stances to switch whenever during her combo with the Heavy Attack if you just delay it and then finish the combo in the other stance. She sort of rotates through the combos in the command list endlessly if you hit the delay/stance switch attacks on time, that is the normal ones and not the one tied to her unique sigil that boosts gauge gain.I'm still figuring this part out though.
>>574512350I think the Arts mechanic can work, its just there isnt a damn payoff, its required to do anything meaningful. danchou desperately needs a buff i agree
Do Narmaya's butterflies work with supp damage or are they like Rosetta's flowers and Ferry's pets?
>>574512604rude
okay but show me the 60s dummy STUN PARSE videos
>>574512369She is recognized by her close combat technique, because it is indeed rare for harvins to excel at it, but she does use magic to hance her body.
>>574512258Song needs a fucking anti-recoil buff.
>>574512258everyone that isn't fediel, percival or id
>>574512614It does seem impossible to stay on the first finisher though so she can't spam dash although I'm starting to notice that the dash skill has negative cooldown cause that shit is never down
>>574512475YodaSevilGun/Crossbow duoDarydaraSkull and his friendVermeil maybe
I just unlocked chaos+, what should my builds be looking like? Should I be using transcended defender on npcs too?
I want a raid fight against Versulia
>>574509609"save party" includes summons
>>574512891what, is percival good right now? i havent seen a single one
>>574512369>Charlotta is the only playable harvin that is a martial artist without magicCharlotta covers her body in magical runes that function as steroids.
>>574512258Pets
>>574507734Some more data would be appreciated. Here's what it looks like so far. I'll add a percent graph when there's a larger sample size (237 right now).
>>574512582Pretty sure it just doesn't have any indicators when it's on, but I'm only working off anecdotes so who knows.>>574512921I haven't really tried that specifically, but I never felt I needed something like that since her dash skill has a relatively short cool down and she gets a free use often too with her meters charged.
>>574512239Neither look good
>>574512964>Should I be using transcended defender on npcs too?nah, if you had terminus weapons on them just leave them as is
>>574512258Give back Ghandagoza his Link Time
>>574504928ggs. all the damage today.
I can't compete...
How does Embrasque devour Causality again? That sounds fucking OP compared to the other Sealed Weapons
Anyone have a good bot cog sigil build? Need a reference, thanks.
>>574513340You'll stop caring about Honors when you realize buffs pad them hard and Fediel will always win if she's in the party anyway
Shill me on why you like your main I've played Id for a long time but want to try Siete since he's the strongest or naru as a tank but I wanna hear about the fun or shit masteries>godmight id>have to build 2 meters to go giga burst>2nd gauge depletes fast as fuck and bloodthirst can just deny you any dps>infinite meter in link+sba chain>going down kills your meters w/o autoreviveburst feels crazy but dying makes you feel like such a chud
>>574513356it just werks
>>574513439It's just the usual build on other AIs. Besides, cog is there to be a buff support. Not damage.
>>574513493what does that even meandoes the sword reverse cause and effect? does it just spawn events with no cause?
>>574513465Clock mechanic is pretty fun, and once I get into gold clock mode, I can basically face tank most attacks in Infinity. Boss fucking off during my clock building buffs is straight cbt though.
>>574513356Don't worry about itThe seal weapons aren't even in the top three stronger weapons in this fucking game world.
>>574513465my favorite part about id is learning that his transformations stun you out of being able to use sba. i've failed full chains twice from this and wanted to die from embarrassment bot htimes
>>574513530Yeah but cog might need cooldown reduction sigils or tech I don't know about.
If I can maintain the Darkflame in Bahamut Infinity can I just ignore Id?
>>574512239if only
>>574513770you need to kill him for the side objective, although he'll probably just die to aoe anyway
>>574513770He should die to your aoe when you're spamming versa
>>574513770you should always ignore Idkill him with aoe only
>>574513692No, I mean seriously, what does that actually mean, it's a reality warping weapon?
>>574507734Sieg 1Vas 1Song 6Char 2Id 2Percy 3Mag 3Cag 1Io 1Bea 4Fed 6Danchou 3 (Two Jita/One Gran)Siete 2Zeta 1Rackam 1Eustace 2Naru 2Fraux 1Vane 1Yoda 1Sandal 3Gallanza 1
I hope the first patch release includes language clarification for ATK ups that gets calculated after caps vs before caps if its after caps just call it DMG up ffs
>>574513637Counting or not counting draph violence?
>>574513868It makes eats Bea's luck when it can, amd gives it back all at once when it matters.
>>574513704yeah i learned quickly to just rip it a little early to not screw it up. the link attack forcing me to do another y combo to go dragon is my favorite bit
Do any of the quick charge sigils affect the amount of hits needed for Maglielle's combo 3 to become enhanced?
>Beato min maxed outside of summon autism (have all 50% normal cap ups including a Stout Heart and Spartan Echo ones, no 100%)>Beato Terminus Weapon maxed acquired>Beato cleared all Infinity fightsWhat now....
>>574513969i hope it removes atk buffs and def downs being nullified in overdrive because it's conceptually such a stupid fucking 'mechanic' assuming it's a real mechanic and not just a bug
what the fuck is the point of Berserker why did they add this garbage sigil
>use Ferry's SBA>animation ends>I got sent 200 meters away from where I wasI'm dropping her what the fuck
>>574514158Challenge
>>574513993which bucket does bea's love life fall into? matters or does not matter?
>>574513465Vaseraga>Insane top tier damage>Completely immortal aura farming skill that allows you to completely ignore certain mechanics because it lasts a LONG time.>Charge attacks that arent terrible like Goza because you dont have to deal Rage but isnt one note baby mode like Percival.>Varied charge attacks that allow for mobility, AoE, or high single Target.>Skills are all strong and useful. Access to Slow.>Could even go Drain Tank Immortal as well with Hostility and Substitute.
>>574514027It's only the start up time for blade dance that quick charge affects. It isn't really worth it.
what do u use bubz items for?
>>574514072start a new characteroptimize your AI partyget all the cheevosbeato ur meato
>>574514234it was annoying in base relink and it's still annoying now. at least it's not as bad as io's sba which teleports her away from her circle and makes her instantly lose all the stacks she's accumulated for casting inside the circle
>>574513994>the link attack forcing me to do another y combo to go dragon is my favorite bitIt didn't used to do this in vanilla relink, you could link attack with no link time and it'd raw transform you but maybe I remember wrong
2 years later and vulkan bolla is still the worst fucking fight in the game for melee
>>574514397damn, I hate doing combo 1 spam
Playing Vaseraga in Infinity fights when there's one or more ranged makes me want to kill myself... How the hell do you guys deal with the boss moving so much along with going back and fourth with the ranged characters. So many times the boss just rushed towards the ranged whenever I charge my attacks.
>>574489034It's unironically my most favorite fight in relink
>>574514259Depends how close you are to ditching her from those antics.When it matters=Her life is on the line normally.It's why she's always dishevelled/ruined after fights
>>574514560Just stand up against his chest and spam attack, dude.
>>574514596With vas, you do well to slot provoke so the boss aggros you, especially because he is unkillable with that 1 skill.
>>574514563Fraux is pretty fun if you like doing varied combos.
>>574514596I bring provokeI know I know, crazy talk to not just minmax sigils, but I believe it's worth it with pubs.
>>574514631wait it works on mr singularity? i thought gran would be immune to fate-altering effects
>>574514596Bring provoke like the other anons said, you're doing a favor to yourself AND the other members.
>>574512891>idI been playing him now and his trees are shit.I was one that buffs and increases godmight time but its all shit
this normal for fediel?
>>574513465>IdGodmight is tons of fun and he feels like he's been awakened a 2nd time, the 1st time being the warpath sigil. Feels incredible to make the right decisions about stalling dragonform or not so that you have godmight at the right times. Perfect guarding during Godmight power combo is kino, and fourfold feels good to use in all forms too. FFV mastery is fun for memeing, dragonform unfortunately just feels worse even on big targets for Scourge beam to do tons of damage to.
>>574514682>>574514720>>574514849Alright, I'll try that. Completely forgot about that sigil. Hopefully my immortal buff will be off cooldown more consistently with that.
Yay or nay?How important are Percy's cooldowns?
>>574514747uh, I'm not sure...it might not have been brought up?the singularity stuff was on the burner during the main society events iirc
>>574514747there isn't a tree that increases godmight time idk what you mean
>>574514072Jump into quickplay and help other Beatos!
>>574515065idk his new mastery traits but that was the best way to play him base game, because he is a tanky fucker and slow, you want the boss on your all the time. Just gotta also have drain, potions and dodge/invincibility to play him well.My vas from base game had shit loads of defensive shit on him. Firm stance especially so he can keep his charges up and eat damage when the boss is trying to do his bullshit.
>>574515137meant for >>574514993
>>574515101i wouldnt play perci without maxed quick cooldown
>>574515101Percy is skill reliant, and sigil heavy, cooldown is very much needed for him, but with the new mastery where he has random skills come back from cooldowns you can unslot cooldown and wing it, but if you had meta summons like the 2 echos and WE you then have enough for cooldwon.
>>574515226If I have a decent run, I can usually have like 80-90% uptime on the immortal buff. Having a ranged party member reduces that drastically though.
naru-nee
>>574515137>there isn't a tree that increases godmight timeYeah I WANT one (I typed was)the one tree just is basically all dragon form he can stay in it nearly all match,, the other boosts the damage of godmight but it overwrites his warpath so you get kicked out of it and you dont need extra damage because you are not hitting cap, then the other 1 relies upon the 1 skill, 4forl vengeance.I just want one that allows me to be in godmight more often.Even if it had something like I only needed 2 versalis wedges while in dragon to change to godmight it would be better.You would think with id the devs would have made the trees buff each of his 3 forms.
I think Fraux's skills can be animation cancelled with the stande swap for faster rotations
>>574515457First cow to get pregnant
They should give a trophy for the guy who perfect guards infinity world the most
>>574513001Few people want to play as a gay guy, he isn't the #1 damage dealer so there's no piloting him if you're metafagging
>>574513465>eustace (perfectionist)Unique gameplay loop that intensely rewards you for dodging into things with charged slides and not getting hit at all meanwhile. Really addicting press X to blast gameplay but lots of lows and highs.
What's a good stun power for infinity bubs and luci again?
>>574516119level 45 stun powe from wrightstone+ 2 basic sigil with stun power and 20 from overmastery basics
What boss is easy for berserker echo Summon
>>574516119More than what you have
>>574516194>>574516217I have 260
Does enlistment take account for their summon traits? or does it just use the current players?
Should Narmaya be using pink stance during stun phases?
>>574515607i mean you get ragnarok form reset when you leave godmight and godmight isn't locked in dragon form, it's already faster than old id to be in godmight
What the fuck is going on with Gallanza? Hes somehow the worse character in the game but also does insane damage? Somehow? I havent seen any of his Sigils so maybe thats why?
>>574516119300+
>Infy world ran into super slowmotion when entering phase 2>againHow do I report bug for this
>>574516662I keep seeing people post this parse chart of him doing 600 million damage and until I see the video evidence I will have to assume it is a troll.
>>574516743Time to farm stun power+ sigils then wtf
>>574516662He only does insane damage on the dummy in his skill spam master trait. Trying to do that in an actual Infinity fight, you'll never get it off fast. His turbine and X master trait builds aren't that good because they do way too low damage. They need to change how his master traits work since they all conflict with each other.t. gallanza player at max master rank
>>574516521You also get kicked out of godmight using his combo enders, which the warpth overwrites but you cant use it in that tree as the tree disables the warpath.It is stupid.I wasn't expecting infinite godmight but I was expecting a longer time in it and like I said, damage buffs to godmight (any form) are irreverent because you will be hitting cap anyway.
>>574516775I've lost interest in dummy scores for the most partI don't really wanna install the parser but I probably should
>>574516976Which tree disables the warpath?
where the fuck do I get Supplemental 15 wighstones
>>574516976Idbro, the gameplay loop with godmight tree is thisRagnarok form immediatelyDragon to 4 stacks, transform whenever you wantGodmight and Y spam to your hearts content, use all your skills before you exit GodmightRepeat, skipping human form almost entirely. You no longer have to get cucked and stay in dragonform during sba/link times and you skip his weakest form constantly and get free cd resets, I'm not sure what more you want
I'm looking at Bea porn right now..she's ruined me.
>>574516957NTA but it's silly how little damage Turbine tree ends up doing for how much time and effort it takes to build up stacks. The only plus side is being able to spin towards harm's way and perfect block things before and with the perfect finisher. Tanky enough, but you can notice the output difference overall.
>>574517563Favorite bea goon material?
>>574517523If Ragnarok form gives godmight maxed back does that mean you get Ragnarok form again when it wears off so you can loop it?
the toppest peak of bea porn is herio's nothing competes
>>574517606They need to buff turbine numbers and make it so that turbine damage and turbine finishers reduce skill cooldown when you're in deathmatch finale. If you go the skill spam build, there's no point in staying in deathmatch finale until you get ten stacks of your buff for your super skill since your skill cooldowns only get reduced from finishers in non-deathmatch finale form.
>>574512258Sandalphon needs a complete Master Trait Rework
>Bring phalanx to infy world>Everyone plays so well without getting hurt, even perfect parry constantly>Bring Rage to infy world>Everyone plays like shit and constantly licking the floor, also none of them try or succeed on perfect parry including me
any lobbies?
>>574517878I actually like his, although they could tune numbers (less atk, more cap/dmg+)
>>574518038Waiting for new thread
>>574517641Her getting fucked on the Beach doujin
>>574518038waiting for goon
>>574518041They feel incredibly useless to me, every other character they actually do something meanwhile the most you get is a 50% refund
not getting a single bubz summon in bubz ++
OISHI SUPU
>>574518453LUNCH TAIMU
ded gaemded thread
>>574494736Almost immortal with shit damage.
Ore-sama
>>574517878>>574518221nta but I think they're balanced but kinda jank. Limitless light makes you an angel skill rotation spammer, refuge rewards you a lot for staying in his regular form and managing to eke out 6 combo finishesrs in a timely manner, bell has an odd gameplay loop where you never zohar strike until the boss is 1 HP.Funny enough all 3 are kinda close in numbers and tend to trade blows depending on the fight.
Doggy style Zeta
Full nelson Djeeta
This is it
Is the Link Time punch man nerfed in Relink
god I wish Fediel's hair was a bit out of the way so I can see that glorious ass while playing her
Cucking Bea by fucking Zeta just like the doujins.
>>574519327Nah, douijins mostly have them as a package deal
Was thinking about maining Katalina or Siegfried, they both seem fun. What should I DO?
How do you play Fraux?
>>574519410both are F tier pick someone else
>>574516976I just tested this on Chaos Gallanza solo while he is in Overdrive, so ATK buffs are disabled. I'm definitely capping because I do the same damage as long as I don't increase Heliotrope.Increasing my Heliotrope level still increases my damage. Seems to be about 1.8% going from 4 to 5 stacks, might just be 2% and it's getting diluted by other sources of DMG%. So it's like 20% DMG% at max Heliotrope on top of the 10% atk for reaching 10 stacks (which is disabled during OD but them's the breaks)
>>574519410play both
Is Seofon at least a better version of Kat?
>>574519524heliotrope also increases cap, not just atk
>>574519524Uh, meant to post this pic instead
>>574519410Just play one of them while raising the other one as your party member so you can switch between them every now and then until you find which one you find the most fun as your main.
>>574519360One has Zeta seducing the captain behind Bea's back.
This is it.This is the end.
>>574518753Wrong thread bro. This is relink not endfield.
Siete Essence does a lot of damage but man I don't think its very fun to play. It feels like you unleash your load once and then do nothing until Tempesta is back on, you build up avatar gauge so FUCKING slowly.Insight feels SO much better to play. I can just perpetually stay in Avatar mode easily.But I can't beat my Essence setup with Insight. However, the fact that I don't need to wait for the boss to stay still for a moment makes me thing this is just better period.
>>574519750Inferior to the one where Metera cucks Sutera
I will make the new thread in 60 seconds if no one else does..
>>574519750Sure, but nothing beats the natural state of being that is ffm with Bea and Zeta
>>574520076charlotta thread please
>>574520076bea thread please
>>574520192>>574520192>>574520192
Is there any reason to beat Bubs in conflux 5?Beating him gives you an extra boon, but I don't even know what it does since you should be able to get all the rewards anyway with 3 bosses defeated, right?
>>574520151It would be hot if Bea was a cuckqueen and fingered herself while waiting for her turn.
>>574519915yeah, the avatar/swordshine gain outside of insight feels so fucking awful but link time is just so absurd with essencei have to memorize when bosses do their bloodlust "fuck off and fly off screen for 5 minutes" breakpoints so that i don't get cucked at max swordshine
>>574520213If you want more CP I guess?
>>574519410Siegfried isn't my bag, but I read he's great as an AI at least.How's Yoda?
>>574517343Godmight tree>>574517523It works the same as base game, human form spam skills and triangle to get dragon form, dragon form spam skills and 4 combo enders, godmight spam triangle and skills including ragnarok to get double godmight time, but without the godmight tree you get combo enders.>>574517679Ragnarok will put you instantly back into dragonform but then you wont have the ability to use it while in godmight to get double godmight so you gimp yourself.The whole idea with ragnarok and godmight is using ragnarok IN godmight so you can get double godmight but the godmight tree disables the warpath which allows you to get combo enders without changing form (at a decrease form change time)Either which way you are fucked.His trees are pretty shit. At least for trying to max out godmight form.>>574517343The godmight tree.
