#1308: Summer heat EditionPrevious: >>574199884This general is for the discussion of original, fan made, or look-alike Mega Man games as well as original titles developed by Inti Creates.>/mmg/ newsMega Man Starforce Legacy Collection out now https://youtu.be/PTct687LRmQ [Embed]Mega Man Dual Override announced for 2027 https://youtu.be/8i97QCOWSC4 Rockman EXE Phantom of Network PC Porthttps://github.com/StraDaMa/PoN_PCNew official licensed smartwatch pre-order announced, a new way to Mega Man 2>Fan game news:Mega Man: The Rise of Ra Moonhttps://gamejolt.com/games/MM25_2/566983Mega Man 64https://github.com/MegaMan64Recomp/MegaMan64RecompiledMega Man DXtremehttps://youtu.be/C9_ykoYqm44 Mega Man X Viral Nightmarehttps://youtu.be/AVToZHXwlsE Mega Man Whttps://megamanw.com/Kingdom's Return out now https://youtu.be/uOW6WmLpUkU Majogami out now on PS5https://youtu.be/-j3Rl762aT4 Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 1+2 is outhttps://youtu.be/gvB2DzQ24Q4 Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 3 coming in 2027https://youtu.be/R9-kBPHYMPsGunvolt Trilogy Enhanced Switch 2 Edition coming in 2026 https://youtu.be/TuAm0HVVkVE The GV3 portion of the OCW has been scannedhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YrbaqiF0CsIaZsAwFIeUfM-vLI1MVoYjSomething Gal*Gun/Guardians related has been teased in Famitsu's 40th anniversary spread with artwork featuring two new characters>Other:Translations of Classic mangas on mangadexIris did nothing wrong>DiVE Linksrentry.org/xdaibu (game, emulators and other stuff)>Koikatsurentry.org/mmgintikk>Melt Stuffrentry.org/mmelt melt 2 its real>Game Downloadsrentry.org/mmglinksHas all MM games, MN9, romhacks, patches + BN cia files>Audiovisual Mediarentry.org/mmgintimediaContains:Cartoons, Anime, Comics, Manga and other printed media - Music Playlists and albums
>>574525509>Iris did nothing wrongThis but sincerely.
>>574525671Iris did everything wrong.
>>574525509Luna might be the third most used girl for OP posts.
>>574525865Iris did a few thing wrong
>Mega Man Starforce Legacy Collection out now https://youtu.be/PTct687LRmQ [Embed] [Embed]
>>574525940Last thread was a repeat OP too
The iX1+2 Official Complete Works is missing quite a bit of art. It's honestly pretty disappointing. Maybe they'll release all the art that had to be cut from these due to being bundled with games in some seperate "Intei Complete Works".
>>574526279What do you mean? Art of what?
>>574526514Lewd loli, I'm guessing Kohaku showering with Null was cut.
>>574526642So art from previous releases?
>>574525671maverick scum
>>574526279>iX1+2 Official Complete Works>isn't completeInti here pulling an iX2 by making you pay twice for something
>>574525509Should've added genesis
>>574526642Not even just that. There isn't a single Null promo art here. They even added some of the iX1+2 promo art but none on the lewder side. Not even the cheerleading one. It's strange to me because they have Lola's ass on full display, and even the Darkness Trigger promo art too. At least there's some with Lola in a swimsuit, including the one with Kohaku for iX1, I guess.
>>574526279>Maybe I'll have the privilege of paying out the ass for a future rerelease in hope of getting some scrapsYeah, this is cope.
>>574526279Did you get any nice concept art of Isola or Kohaku?
>>574529146Much cope...>>574529304Yeah, though there isn't any iX2 Kohaku concept art unless you count Mother Kohaku and the unfinished CGs. No funny hat in sight. Sad because I wanted to see if there were any other new outfit ideas they scrapped.
>>574526127From the look of things it's >1st place Roll >2nd place Roro >3rd place Luna Somehow Leviathan barely shows up
>>574530505Adding to this, Mother Kohaku is just the final design, so not really anything special. Butt you can look at her ass!
>>574530787>Butt you can look at her ass!She's Lola alright.
>>574530787>>574531173
>>574531651>flatChecks out for NoAss.
Why is Zonda more deserving of pity than Asimov? They're basically the same person. They both want global genocide and adept supremacy, and manipulate and sacrifice adopted family to achieve it. And they both unleash a tide of terrorism on Japan and kill Joule.
>why's the person trying to stop oppression and genocide and doesn't want to do mass murder more accepted by people than the insane murderous sociopath who's original plan was nuking JapanYou're not getting a (You), please reconsider the life choices you have taken to lead you to this low point.
Thanks all for joining the 4th episode of The 2nd Super Robot Wars: Rebirth - "Insaraum Returns". This week we learned that Crowe will forever be in debt and I hate that gothic-lolita bitch.
>>574533281I didn't expect accuracy to be our biggest enemy
>>574533350ironic now that he learned to shoot
Mu La Flaga vs Le Mu who wins
>>574532239I'm pretty sure Inti thinks Asimov is more deserving of pity, and really he kinda is. Take your well deserved (You).
>>574526279>anon is disappointed that literal Gunvolt-brand shovelware doesn't deliverYeah. You paid out the wazoo just to learn the surname of great characters like Bakto. Get fucked.LaiX has never had a single iota of effort put into it so I'm not sure what you were expecting.
>>574534975cute
>>574533281>>574533350if only we had free funds for a dodge- and hitgod shitbox...it took me this long to realize zenitory is a pun
The world without Adepts would be like the world without rats.
Daily reminder that Copen is the best Mega Man.
when will inti make the yohane sequel
>>574532239Because Zonda's brand of minos genocide isn't the same as Asimov's brand of minos genocide.
>>574547972When Yoshiko gets off the boat.
>>574547972Right after Blaster Master ZX and right before Love & Destroy 2.
>>574547972Love Live is on the crab fishing boat until fruther notice because they killed five gachas in a row by bleeding white their fandom to the point that many of them were sold to the organ harversters.
>>574550721>Blaster Master ZXwell that's not a bad idea, Blasting Again deserves a remake
>>574525671Ihope she goes to reploid hell
>>574525509>Iris did nothing wrong
>>574549809>>574550908>RoRo coping over her actually being the one out crabfishing to fund Inti
>>574554110>Boat is named S.S.EOS.
>>574554576>still coping over Yoshiko having jobs on land while RoRo actually has to go out to crabfish at sea
>>574555357Yes, Yoshiko "landed" many jobs this fishing season.
>>574555357So you won't have any problem posting a trailer of her newest videogame this time, right?
>>574555657That she did but that has nothing to do with RoRo having to go out and crabfish.>>574555851An idol conducting idol jobs vs the video game "idol" that apparently can't sell games so she has to fund new ones and her posters that aren't selling said games.
>>574556351Again. Where's her newest game trailer?
>>574555851some dude is cosplaying as Lola
>>574545584Trust the plan. We can set him up properly for dodgegod shenanigans after the Shinkiro because Ohgi is a shitter and he is not going to kill Chirico with a MAP
>>574550721You forgot about the one that'd be the most important for Inti:Speed Copen Gunbike.
>>574556351>An idol conducting idol jobs >the idol jobs
>>574557850>taking a photo of RoRo's workplace
>>574556351So she has no game and no job.
>>574558112No game because that's not her main job. She has concerts and events lined up this year. She still had games developed. RoRo's job is a video game "idol" but money's been blown for no return. RoRo's "gravure" isn't selling the games so she obviously have to get the money elsewhere. That's also why you had Inti begging for attention from Mina.
>a high school girl who works as an idol and takes on multiple part-time jobs to support her main jobgood goy and a wageslave>a qt ball that transforms into an incredibly hot girl and has only one job: to support the one who's the last hope of the mankindabsolutely precious
How many more crude Photoshops will until Yoshiko gets off the boat and makes a new game?
>>574559313>the struggle to fund iX3
>>574559313Anything to get the attention of yacht club and the mina money.
>>574525509Why there's brats with big butts in the OP?
>>574562612You and your obsession with shitty grifter games.
>>574563568I'm not the one that went on twitter and tagged somebody. Twice.
>>574545584what's the pun
>>574564110Yeah, how dare they post on twitter.
>>574564613>specifically talk about tagging which is trying to link>go reductionist
>>574564925Oh, yeah they tagged somebody on twitter. What a scandal. Totally worth obsessing over.
>>574564925>two posts sharing info about a sales bundle is suddenly begging for attention Log off, go outside. Interact with other people
>>574564154銭取
>>574565141Sure is when the other group didn't even retweet those posts or tag them back. Instead they just made their own post but don't bother with the other group.>Log off, go outside. Interact with other people>saying that in this general of all things
>>574565560So one side made the posts, the other linked those posts.Looks like a normal business interaction.
>>574565683>So one side made the posts, the other linked those posts.That's the point. One did. The other didn't.
The only two games with Megaman EXE in them.
>>574566357Meddy.exe as Lan's Navi for BN 2, 3, 5. And 6 was a truly artistic choice.
>>574565560>Sure is when the other group didn't even retweet those posts or tag them back.>This fag is obsessing over a tweet left on readlmao maybe it's best you stay in your cave
I actually dreamed I was playing Mega Man yesterday night
>>574566664>coping over being told that "indie" dev is begging for attention from another indie dev and the world saw it
>>574567483see >>574565141
>>574567019Which one? I recommend Mega Man iX.
>>574567825see >>574565560
I am Elec Man! Get ready for some truly en-lightning shock therapy!
>>574567872Like I said, stay in your cave obsessing over not getting a reply.
>>574568425Don't get mad that I'm pointing out that Inti was begging for (You)s.
>>574568775Dont project, anon. You're the only one who thinks (you)s mean anything.
>>574569751I'm not going on twitter tagging inti for attention like inti was tagging yacht for it.
Smeg Man Regendo drawing I got done yesterday
>>574569973Yeah you're doing it here, which is worse. Sad, anon.
>>574570274Not once have I asked inti to notice me. But apparently noticing inti begged for something from a smaller group is somehow taboo.
>Gunvolt vs Nova>Copen vs Zonda>Kirin vs ZEDWhich nemesis relationship is the most fun and interesting? Not necessarily the best written, but the one that you want to see more of.
>>574571614Copen and Zonda, entirely just because of how much I love Zonda and I think it'd be hilarious seeing how iX would feel about Zonda
>>574571614Copen and Zonda, because they have the most interesting personality clash. Although in an ideal world, Zonda would be Mytyl's rival.
>>574571914Mytyl is similar to Zonda once you get past Zonda's creepiness. If Zonda didn't have such a fucked-up life, she'd probably have ended up like Mytyl.
>>574571614Copen vs Ypsilon.
>>574570018Neat.
>>574571914Where's Zonda dancing loli god requiem?
>>574570018What's Tron gonna do to that poor Servbot?
>>574525509MayL can bring the summer heat harder than Luna.
>>574571856>hilarious seeing how iX would feel about ZondaHis reaction would be "Zonda who." He has amnesia in GX and can't even remember Kohaku or Mytyl.In a better written story, building off the parallels established in GV2, seeing Zonda would give him flashbacks of Mytyl. Or maybe iX had a history with his Zonda that would resurface when meeting mainline Zonda. But we all know Tsuda and Tai would never do any of the above. She'd just be another crazy adept to iX, who he would not hesitate to kill or think much about afterward.
If Cope married the Zond, would their kid have white hair with pink highlights?
>>574571614>Kirin and ZEDThey have absolutely no parallels because Kirin is mostly a bystander in her own game. It's Gunvolt's story, and all the foils are between ZED and him.
>>574575069>marriedyou mean slaughtered
>>574575080True. And they're frenemies in ATEMS. They don't have any real idealistic clash, but Kirin doesn't have strong ideals other than people deserve second chances, and it's always better to turn an enemy into a friend than to kill them, which ZED believes too.
>>574566357maybe sakurai is a BN4 fan
>>574571614I think Copen and Zonda are the most visceral because they represent two opposing sides of the same extreme ideology, they're an unfortunate parallel. Both are entirely devoted to fighting for the existence of their species, both genuinely believe they're doing what is needed to save mankind, they both justify their actions as being for the ‘good’ of their own species and at their core, they both use the exact same logic and rhetoric to vindicate their actions. When Copen stands face to face with Zonda, he is confronted with the ultimate consequence of his own hatred.Both Zonda and Copen are entirely trapped by their trauma and worldviews. Copen becomes the very "monster" he fights against, while Zonda’s crusade to protect her people only brings ruin. They are so blinded by their pain that they miss the chance for coexistence, making them this tragic reflection of each other. Their arcs perfectly highlight the game’s themes of endless, escalating cycles of violence. It's all so horrible and awful, and I miss this part of Gunvolt so much.
>>574572409Mytyl is already very lustful, she'd be good friends with Panera if she only had her septima and wasn't a necessary sacrifice to stop mass murder.
>>574577891>endless, escalating cycles of violence>if you defend yourself you're just as bad as the people victimizing you!What is this firstie mentality?
>>574578652Hey, it's the dev's fault that we only ever fuck up adepts while leaving the other side alone. Peace isn't achieved through coexistence and compromise, but by wiping out adept resistance so the antiadepts can continue what they're doing. Even in GV1, where you're fighting antiadepts, most (if not all) of the people you kill are adepts.
>>574574384Inti has gotten very afraid to try.
>>574579093Grunts in GV1 are nonadepts. Other than iX2, in every game after, they're all adepts.
>>574579093ironically, the closest we got to the peace between adepts and non-adepts is at the end of iX, but that's because Blado is just like Gunvolt, living in both worlds as a former non-adept who can see cruelty on both sideshow long that peace will last, that's another story
>>574579568You're right we need to go back to exterminating adepts.
>>574579713Cope is dumb for not developing the anti-adept virus that specifically targets Septimosomes and leads to certain death.
>>574574283The human girls in BN and SF are top tier. I wonder if the human girls in X were of equal quality thus why we didn't see mass produced reploid gfs.
>>574579667Adepts generally seem okay with nonadepts existing so long as nonadepts aren't attacking them. Asimov had to use Mytyl to stop adepts from caring about the plight of minos, and there are instances of adept parents dying to protect their nonadept children.
>>574579832Isn't that sort of what he did in iX2?
>>574580078what?there's no adepts in iX2
>>574567019>Was playing a Megaman game last night>Don't remember my dream Complete inverse of you
>>574578652On one hand you have Copen who justifies his bloodshed by pointing to the atrocities committed by Eden, Sumeragi and adepts in general. Yet, his ruthless anti-Adept fanaticism only validates the hatred that groups like Eden harbor toward humanity in the first place, cementing his own inescapable tragedy.On the other, Zonda’s desire to wipe out humanity and create an Adept-only utopia is horrific as it is a utopia built on a foundation of hatred and genocide against ordinary people. But the tragedy lies in the fact that Zonda’s hatred and radicalization stems from a long history of cruel discrimination and abuse by ordinary ningens.They are victims of an unjust world, but their attempts to right that injustice turn them both into monsters in a vicious circle.
The biggest thing is that adepts can still have minos offspring, just rarely, meaning that minos aren't going away no matter how brutal the regime implemented. It's like how adepts can't be exterminated; they're both just people. You can't have one without the other.Peace and coexistence is the only path forward, every other attempt has resulted in human extinction.
>>574580245Isn't most of Cope's racism from Dr. K? I don't really know if Zonda got most of her racism from Tenjian, or if she radicalized him.
>>574580245>desire to wipe out humanity and create an Adept-only utopiaStop quoting 8-4 verbatim.
>>574579093>it's the dev's fault that we only ever fuck up adepts while leaving the other side aloneHow exactly, in an action game, are you supposed to have non-powered enemies as a serious threat? The issue is inherent to the way the games are designed.
>>574580336Clearly just means you're not trying hard enough to clear out the adept roaches
>>574580245>Copen who justifies his bloodshedHis bloodshed is dumb as fuck because it's just inefficient and only effective in short-term at best, but fully justified.
>>574580465Have a Wily or Weil situation where adepts are enslaved by a nonadept. Have them reverse engineer some of Copen's tech and build septima wielding robots, power-armor, or cyborgs. There's several ways you can make a credible nonadept antagonist.
>>574580465Oh man if only there was a player human non septimal character that puts on a sentai suit to fight anime characters such a shame this doesn't exist nor do mechas that could be piloted by people meaning they have to use anime characters.
>>574580541But Copen wants them to suffer before they die and wants to personally do it.
>>574580462speaking of 8-4, since Matt Papa decided not to revert the damage that has been done, we desperately need patches for Gunvolt games to revert the localized names to the Japanese originals
>>574580708>>574580651>Copen>Weil>WilyThese are outliers. And the latter two are stock mad scientist villains who send minions to fight for them. Weil only suits up and tries to 1v1 Zero IRL as a last resort.
>>574579093Even in Eden's Party, the non-adepts get away with massacring adepts at the start.
>>574580768"A truly heroic figure".—inticreates, for some reason
>>574580937The funny thing is that iX3 seems to point to the villains being baseline humans that want to eradicate adepts.How's that for an outlier?
>>574581084or machines
>>574581084How? The guy in power armor is very non-adept coded (an adept would just use armed phenomena to get "power armor" like effect), but aside from that, all the grunts shown have been in gear that looks like Sumeragi's.
>>574581084>The funny thing is [SPECULATION]I'm going off main universe rules and what's been established in prior games. And according to that, Copen would jever share his tech and it'd be stupid for there to be a whole army of normies with anti-septimal technology.
>>574581386I NEED to play this game NOW.
is ix3 finally erasing the mistake that is tagging
>>574581504Yeah, unlike iX2 it actually looks like fun.
>>574581693>is ix3 finally erasing the mistake that is reloading bullitsFTFY, also iX2 already got rid of that shit
>>574582080>>574581693Neither of you can see mount Tai.
>>574579093>Hey, it's the dev's fault that we only ever fuck up adepts while leaving the other side aloneIt's so funny that the game pretends ningens are a threat to adepts. Reminder that Copen is the champion of ningens. He's so far above ordinary humanity that he may as well be considered superhuman as well. And all he does is lose, so where does that place the chances of ordinary humans going up against adepts?In fact, we have a spinoff that showed a Human vs. Adept conflict and the human side got fucked six ways till Sunday. Over the span of a 100 years humans weren't able to bridge the gap even a tiny bit. The height of pyrrhic victory, like what's even left at this point? 4 orphans and a robot?
>>574581386Guess this game will finally answer the question of whether Cope would kill a normal human or not.
>>574582276They do a pretty bad job of it. It really makes GV sound justified when he tells Eden that they deserved whatever happened to them in the past.
>>574582276>pretendAnon, most adepts have SOL anime powers like making good takoyaki or both walking up to 30 alarm clocks. These are the ones that mass mechanized infantry round up and massacre.What Asimov did was take the adepts that could actually fight and direct them into his purpose of war. And even then it took decades.
finished replaying to ZX and ZXA for their birthday forgot how horrendous the french translation was
>>574582276Canonically, Copen probably wrecked Desna's operation but lost to her, which is why GV never attacked the Firmament. Desna wrecked him, but showed him mercy, which is why he's out of commission for most of the game and doesn't make another attempt at the shards until Tenjian's level. Desna then returned to Belladen and was killed by GV.
>>574582276he was slaying those falcons one by one in iX, and it was said that falcons were among the most powerful adeptswhat he lost against was pretty much a cultivated electric septima stored in a stationary jar and amplified beyond everything we've seen before dragon madness
>>574582996Cute small penis.
>>574583498Bro, give sauce.
>>574583498>>574583617
>>574583914You know there's a full size picture out there.
>Bought the Cyber Wave Pack when it was on sale in JapanSaved nearly $70 leaf bux over the normal price
>>574579896When X games were being made, Capcom didn't understand that even boys who play action games like cute girls. It was with PS2 and Advance games that they figured it out, and started properly featuring them.But it was too late...
>>574584286Thank you for your sacrifice.
Stop obsessing over small non-septimal penis, it's creepy.
>>574584286
>>574584286>>574583617>>574583498Here you go. You can delete your post before Elpizo notices.https://litter.catbox.moe/6a6un1h5qkzbtfvj.png
>>574584364I meant in the setting.
thread nuke
>>574584715Small septimal penis then?
Desna, Zonda, and Elise are way sexier than any of the iX or GV3 girls.
>>574586619Desna and Zonda are supposed to be so attractive/cute that they're worshipped by adepts and nonadepts. Don't think any other girls come close. Eden in general are noted to be popular online in-universe because they're so attractive.
>>574586619And Gibril!!And yeah, it's shocking we've had 4 games since and still doesn't have a single girl that comes close, but GV2 was also made before the blackrock money entered.
Is the other schizo theory about Xiao being the missing G7 member going to come true as well?
>>574587961I have even more schizo theory: Xiao is Tai's self-insert and the most powerful being, rivaling even Morbius, since he can rewind time to before Morbius happened and potentially prevent him from being born. Basically Rohan of the Gunvolt universe.
>>574583172He's only that effective in iX because it's his power fantasy timeline. He still jobbed to a generic Lolatank in that same game.
I'm not celebrating that Spain won, I'm just happy Argentina lost.
How did a shut-in NEET acquire such a fine ass?
>>574565141Sex with Cial.
>>574600595A strict diet of sweets, a rigorous training regimen of gaming for twelve hours straight, and copious amounts of high powered septima.
>>574584762>>574584286They don't call her a virgin killer just because of her sweater. >>574586619>>574587397And the classic characters still consistently get art. This piece was posted just a few hours ago.
>>574602907Mostly the GV2 characters. They were top-notch.
>>574603096In retrospect, GV2 really stands out like a sore thumb, and not just because of its dual route setup, how it was rushed, or the complete downer of a finale. It's the game with the most connections to GalGun, for instance. Every other game glosses over it.
>>574603353>this is what happened when you didn't go sisters route, are you happy players? Wow Inti.
>>574603353iX2 directly referenced GalGun as something that happened, but iX2 is more of a sequel to GV2 than GV3 was.
>>574603353
>>574603353I just realized that her hair clips are where her horns should be.
>>574604726Yes those are accessories to conceal demonic/angelic features.
>>574603096The designs had so much character.
>>574603645>>574603353My crack theory is that whatever caused Shinobu to disappear was what led to the bad timeline. Basically, something major happened, and Shinobu was the only one who could resolve it. It was her destiny, but she failed because she didn't have the miracle of love buff. This failure led to her disappearance, either through death, being put in stasis, being plopped into another dimension, or some other way.
>>574603645In-universe, GG is just a classic arcade game.
>>574605516To be honest whatever plunged the world into bad timeline probably didn't have to do with whatever some bottom tier middle schoolers from angel/demon academy did. It's just added bullshit to the side.
>>574606694Only the first one.It's also what actually happened.
>>574605516It's fairly reasonable to assume Shinobu passed away naturally or in her line of duty. A bummer, I'd love to see mid thirties milf Shinobu.
How will she react when you accidentally notice the giant Aoi poster on her wall?
>>574611005Prostate massage.
>>574579896I say that X is dead last when it comes to the eye candy.Classic>BN>>Zero>Legends>ZX>Starforce>>>>>>X>>574584414I missed it? Archive link?
>>574598449I hoped that he would come here this month to make another one with a soccer uniform.
>>574611902shit taste
>>574611902>I missed it? Archive link?https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/574525509/#q574584286
MMZ1.5 is the 1-year odyssey that Zero takes to reach Ciel
I still don't understand why Copen's route isn't canon. One, it absolves GV of being a lolikiller and X-clone. Two, the audio dramas all assume Copen's route is canon. Three, Zonda is Copen's nemesis, and all the promotional material shows Copen fighting her.
The lesser evil won. Cinnamon is not happy about it tho.
>>574616042You're working off outdated info anon Xiao's bullshit means everything's canon now.
>>574616316looks plenty happy there
>>574615414Lol. Roro is the best part of that image.
Why Dr Light made her to be like this?
>>574617218Stop turning Roll into Zonda.
>>574617328Last I checked Roll hasn't eaten Sacred Edge and doesn't have a soul to turn into dust.
>>574615414Sweater dress lap pillows.
>>574611902Star Force has the best girl of all MM.
>>574617218Making a lolibot not be slutty is like making a battle robot without death lasers: pointless.
What is Alice looking at?
>>574619075Gibril making amends for her wanton acts of senseless murder.
>>574619075Right before the realization that it works.
>>574619541Halo is shit.
>>574619691Halo is shit. Lightning sword shaped construct smiting is eternal.
>>574619301She condones those, though. At any point did you see Zonda tell her allies to stop massacring civilians?
>>574619814Lightning sword is inferior to the gun from Painkiller that shoots shuriken and lighting.
>>574619904In Edens party. There's no indication she was aware Gerbil was doing hate crimes given the high degree of autonomy the G7 operate under and how Tenjian likely didn't tell her shit.
>>574619541Did she get a "clean" death, or was it gory.
>>574620007She wasn't that clueless. Tenjian told her about the mounds of adept corpses at the start, for instance.
>>574620013Si
>>574620007>Eden's PartyThat thing CHADshihisa Tsuda barely regards as canon now?
>Tenjian: Was I too late...? A scene of carnage... piles upon piles of corpses... What a ghastly atrocity! Those powerless wretches...! Such a heinous, wicked act! They deserve to die a thousand deaths!>Pantera: Tenjian... what is the state of the town?>Tenjian: ...>Pantera: ...I see...>Tenjian: I am sorry, Pantera. Even though you sensed the danger facing our comrades...>Pantera: Tenjian... there is no need for you to apologize. This, too... was likely "Fate.">Tenjian: After the storm has passed, the sky will clear... I vow to you, comrades. One day you will be avenged...!One thing I don't get is how Zonda even learned of the adept massacre to begin with. Tenjian said that she "sensed it," but she never shows that sort of precognition in the games. She also says that it was "Fate," but again, makes no reference to destiny. The closest she gets are her fatalistic justifications on how the muse plot is the only way to save adepts from extinction.
>>574621061>how Zonda even learned of the adept massacre to begin withIt's a real mystery.
>>574620814Much like your larger hero, Cope.
>>574621061Did you forget adepts are literal psychics?
>>574621702I forget they exist until they start breathing again.
>>574621061Zonda's powers are very similar to Joule/Mytyl. You can think of her Septima like it's in the same family as the Muse, much like Azure Stiker and Golden Trillion are very similar. Hence, she can act as an adept radar. It's also likely the reason why her Septima was capable of absorbing the Muse to begin with.
>>574622569It's more accurate to say that Zonda is a gimped Muse, much like Explosion is a much weaker version of Golden Trillion. She trades the ability to sing for combat projections, but the Muse song is the most OP thing in the setting, so it's a shit trade.
>>574622816Cyber Diva is only so strong when making use of its natural synergy with Azure Strikers or those adjacent to it. You're underselling Zonda whose base form is as powerful at reality warping as Nova is at throwing black holes.
Luluka is so popular she's getting a movie now, which means that INTI definitely won't use true Zonda in GX or a hypothetical GV4. She also never lost her color scheme when she did her inevitable antivillain-to-antihero swap as the movie will use her black and purple outfit though she'd say the heroines swapped to her side, not her to them.
>>574624837It's almost commendable how hard they're trying to ignore their own golden goose.
>>574624837>she's getting a movie now>precure has had movies for a long as time>they usually take place before the endhuh?
>>574625363Or that they are afraid of using her.
>>574620013adept shits get the salt gun
So Copen started modifying himself when he was around 14? Do you think the conversion was a gradual affair, or did he do most of it in one go?
>>574629208Where are people getting the iX OCW scans?
>>574629208He stayed the way he was when he was 15. So he probably went all the way very fast.
>>574626724Pantera's too powerful.
if this guy gives you a bag of winds, do NOT open
The reason Inti doesn't use Pantera anymore despite how popular Luluka is comes down to two factors:#1 they are defanged and think loli is verboten and that lewd anime games are a thing of the past and must find that modern audience. #2 because Luluka is this insanely popular and Pantera remains a fan favorite ten years on they run the risk of her overshadowing Gunvolt and given how badly they reacted to some fans saying Acura felt stronger than GV because they liked his gameplay more, no way in hell are they risking an even worse upset. Works cited: I made it the fuck up.
True reasons Inti doesn't use Pantera anymore despite how popular Luluka is comes down to two factors:#1 Inti can't handle anything without fucking up#2 Luluka is popular but also fotm. At the same time Zonda showing up will lead to her being called Temu LulukaWorks cited: Sen. Armstrong
>>574633327>they are defanged and think loli is verboten and that lewd anime games are a thing of the past and must find that modern audience>What was Card En Ciel, Flamefrit and Majogami >Inti chasing the wider audience ever
>>574633482>Temu LulukaDoesn't happened when somebody has proof of her being the original like it happened in /a/
>>574634190Will still remain temu.
>>574634123>What was Card En CielLightning in a bottle and a hope of reaching a wider audience. That's why they hired vtubers, meme va'ing by Luke from Streets and all that. It didn't work.>FlamefritAn April fools.>Majogami lollmao even
>>574634190Gobots are seen as transformers ripoffs despite being older.Consumers are retarded.
>>574635269Aside from Alice, I always saw Golden Darkness when I looked at Zonda. I know she's actually supposed to be a Lady Khan ripoff, but Khan was a lot more maniacal and uncaring. GD has the creepy monotone and reserved attitude, but turns into a lewd love freak when she transforms. She was also an antivillain who became extremely popular, enough to get a spin-off. To Love Ru would also be the sort of ecchi crap Inti would be into. Luluka is more similar to Fate Testarossa. I guess unique traits shared between Luluka and Zonda are that they're both way more mature than their ages would imply, and they're both geniuses.
>>574636172Luluka's literally 16 and they're in like the early 90s.
>>574629208The latter, and reasonably fast I would assume. This nigga's track record is already not the best and without Nori being around to look after him and bail him out when he's in trouble he can no longer afford the weakness of the flesh. I can imagine it's faster and easier for an engineer to maintain damaged mechanical parts than it is mending broken bones.
Why haven't they made Meddy into a classic mega man boss yet
>>574636172That's Fate Testarossa from Sailor Moon.
>>574622569so that's how she managed to temporarily manifest an Octima, the resonance and compatibility with Muse was just that good
>>574629208It's explicitly said he doesn't need to eat or sleep anymore. Is his brain still organic, or is it already a brain-shaped machine?
>>574649154He's like Andross, just powered by spite and electricity.More seethe now than cope.
>>574647065The only prerequisite for wielding the muse is being cute and funny enough.
>>574649154He's the same as Mytyl, a brain hooked up to a machine. For all intents and purposes Copen is dead and the Kamizono line has burned out. There's just 'iX' now.
>>574649575but how is that brain even alive with no sleep or nutrition? looks like Tai fucked it up
>>574649575He has a "daughter" in Lola and she became a real girl that one time.
>>574649407Source of that image?
Look at Captain iX and First Mate Yohane together on the crab vessel SS Roro.
>>574649407I see that brat be posted here a lot. From what game is she?
>>574654358https://x.com/yangkaiming91
>>574655479Most people got the Switch 2 port... because it's in the game card and that's becoming very rare.
They are taking your brats away from you.
>>574659082Oh boy, if underage girls are not allowed. That means that a) Classic Roll is allowed in but basically nobody else is. b) why even bother with this?
>>574649575If Ciel found a way I'm sure that Kohahu(Roro) will find one too.
>>574659548>b) why even bother with this?>there is no point to anything at all without low-lees
>>574624837Wait, so Zonda 2 switched sides and didn't get a non evil look?That breaks magical girl Genoveva conventions! you would not belive how pic related looked before switching sides >>574634123IntiCreates is still not defanged. Howeber, they are very VERY in need of proper leadership.
>>574655479>Hololive just made the same gacha scam that Love Live had but better Hope Yoshiko likes the boat because she's never gonna leave.
>>574659082"Older" as in "old drawings" not the characters' ages dumbo. And why are you pretending some Xitter art project is relevant anyway
>>574662686>older Megaman ladies>n-n-n-no he meant older drawingsImagine being this in denial people are coming for what you like.
>>574662860>>>/v/eddit
>>574663116>lacks basic reading comprehension>wants to pretend there isn't pushback on brats>tells people to go to redditOh boys, we got a live one.
>>574663418I'm not /pol/brained so I don't see everything as a potential outrage.
>>574662295The hololive gacha is literally cychronicles + kingdom's return mixed. This isn't shots fired at Yoshiko, it's shots fired at Inti in general.
Yohane was never one of us just because Inti did that one game nobody liked. Time to get sent back on your boats, LLfags.
>>574660068There isn't.
>>574666479And so she screams into the waves.
>>574667909lol gay
>>574669621no
>>574670103>only wants to see flat chested kids which are indistinguishable from men given how Japan goes>not gayDenial, river in Egypt, etc.
>Lola still coping from the boats
Behold, a man.
>>574670804>implying it couldn't be when characters like Astolfo existNot sending their best.
>>574659082What the hell's up with that Iris?
>>574670804She could very well have a cock attachment, being a robot and all.
>>574670880They can't make poses like pic related without losing their bluff.
>bro they just kids give them another chance>bro just let the rotten fruits ripewhy? why waste time on "ifs"? if sumeragi and eden were capable of being good people they'd never have become evil in the first place. kirin is delusional and based tsuda/tai back in place will show that evil people turning good is impossible.
>>574673756>
>>574673756>implying
https://x.com/tukiyono/status/2079193824438751477Caskett dress-up
>>574673987We must eradicate all Adepts! Except Blade. She's cool.
>>574675297How come they REFUSE to make a Blade game?
>>574674867Caskett is pure sex.
>>574675297No exceptions you adept sympathizer shit.
>>574675478Because the fandom would make memes about Copen being such a loser that he gets displaced by an Azure Striker even in his own series. You know that's what would happen. Copen already gets shit on for being weaker than Gunvolt, even though he actually accomplished more while GV continually fucks up.
>>574675919>that he gets displaced by an Azure Striker even in his own seriesThat's retarded when the titular azure striker got displaced twice in a trilogy
>>574675919Remember when Inti claimed to be doing Something with mainline Copen and that's why they recast all his voice lines in the enhanced trilogy? What became of that?
>>574675919I think it'd be a welcoming change since Copen is by far the weakest link in his own series and for whatever reason Inti just cannot make him work. Everyone loves Blade more, she's practically their Zero outright.Copen would absolutely get dunked on and memed relentlessly for it, but fuck him he deserves it. Be a better, cooler protag.
>>574676696Anon I get that you hate cope for some autistic reason but that's the exact opposite of what actually happened
Which 130 cm do you pick as your support fairy?
>>574676696>Everyone loves Blade moreSource?
>>574675478her entire series is inter refusing to make even the tiniest crumb of megger and you're asking that?
>>574675478Clearly they're scared of showing off an actually cool Azure Striker and making their fav look even lamer than usual. Midvolt's nowhere near as cool as her and they know it too!>>574675865Listen, she's not really an actual Adept, so let's be nice! I'd never not kill one of the real monsters!
>>574676928Can I pick Cyan but alive?
>>574676696>Copen is by far the weakest link in his own series>Everyone loves Blade more>she's practically their Zero outright
>>574676696Fuck off, Tai. You had no business releasing a game you didnt playtest, even Tsuda had a field day calling you out on that
>>574676520They lied
>>574676696Genuinely delusional take, what the fuck are you guys even talking about here anymore
>>574675919Gunvolt got top billing in exactly one game.
>>574676928I pick the one who's not bloodthirsty.
>>574678704>starts a war and sucks a soul
>>574677104>she's not really an actual Adeptshe wasn't, now she is - just like Gunvolt
>>574678397We're clearly talking about how much protags suck and 130cms that'd be great to fuck, silly.
Marge Simpson
>>574674867Her hair doesn't look like that.
>>574679045you'd think cope and lol don't get literally 3 times the content of every other character combined the way you guys post here
>time travel shenanigans leads to meeting potential future offspring>looks like thisWhat emotions would iX/Copen feel?
godmarg simpson
>>574679780They'd kill her then kill themselves.
>>574678965Well, at least she manages to actually keep her loli sister alive! That's more than we can say for that other Azure Striker... Hell, they might even get it on off screen, you never know!
>>574582996>>574583498Copen is built to be dominated.
>>574679851Godmarg but yellow? Hmmm...
>>574676928>>574679045What's with that exact hight that changes women?>>574679780Copen would deploy his denial shields while iX would not do anything, because he can't feel anything.
>>574680626iX got pretty emotional toward the end of iX1.
>>574680626iX feels a warmth inside him.
>>574679780Is this the elusive Good Ending timeline? Ordinary Cope would REEEEEEE, iX would maybe give a single nod, and Dr. K. would manifest back in the world as a blue obi wan ghost, but instead of offering any advice it's just Judgmental Ghost Dad of Disappointment.Cute.
>>574679780Copen left his sister to not have to deal with her being an adept. So he would leave any adept daughter too
>>574680626Tatsuwife...
>>574680128>Roro gets her wish >(Spongebob narrator) five seconds later...>Copen just there in the bed dry like and out like a log a fish while Roro is annoyed
>>574676928The butterflygirl, naturally.https://litter.catbox.moe/gk8ljm7hxq5q7rar.png
Now we know why Air Man was made for.
Joule JoulesonA fairy denied closure
>>574682457Has Airman been used for this before?
>>574680626>130>post 140sGet the hell out
>>574680128Absolutely, he's the bottom of all bottoms. All that pride and prickly defensiveness covering up the deeply vulnerable soft interior is just made to be aggressively stripped away by a confident partner taking the reins. He thinks he's such hot shit but the truth is he's strung tighter than a nun's asshole and would melt into a puddle the moment anyone hovers near his dick or butt. He's a glass cannon through and through.
>>574684620This is making me want to have sex with Copen even more than usual.
>>574684620>>574680128
>>574677367It can't be GX or iX3 related, so my guess is they either overpromised like they did with Connect X, or it's still in the pipeline.
>>574686825>>574679780Copen's destiny is to be domesticated and bred by a female adept.
Lola looks so cool.
>>574688046I need that pod to move out of the way.
>Roll thread got nuked past the 300 posts
>>574684620>>574685279>>574687853Posts like this make me fear that women may actually still be here.
>>574690556If it were a Zonda thread it wouldn't even break 10 posts before sliding past page 10.
>>5746872604 copen games in a row would be extremely funny, so it's probably just a plot development in either game. Weren't people speculating the iX3 guys were copens already?
>>574678863>stops genocide and only kills dead women to do soUnconditional support for Eden. Adept liberation is human liberation.
>>574693069>>574679780Mistress of lies, craftswoman of evil illusions: I know you dwell in this Garden, behind treacherous mirrors. My gun is ever ready to reunite you with your false brother in the deepest pits of Judecca.
>>574693069Adept shits and adept sympathizer shits deserve the gallows
>>574693069>rat liberation is human liberation
The future will know whom sacrificed for freedom and whom died to uphold tyranny.
>>574693013>4 copen games in a rowI know GV3 was extremely forgettable, but it did come between iX2, the Triangle Edition and iX3.
>>574676520What they originally wanted to do was make GV2 Copen playable in GV3, but iX2 Copen was the engine compatible one and then Aizu publicized the movement test without permission.
>>574695749>without permission.He's the CEO. Still an extremely stupid move, but it was his call.
>>574695749So what they're going to explain the amnesia with iX and Copen minds merging like Mytyl 2.0?
>>574695597iX Connect, GX, iX3 is 3 in a row, if there was a 4th thing it'd be 4 to me. 2, iX, iX2 was also 3 in a row too I guess
>>574696281Two of those are addons to existing sequels though, not really Copen games.
>>574695749Petition to remove Aizu from Inti Creates for publicizing the movement test without permission
>>574696382They have meaningfully distinct gameplay so I'm counting them
>>574696580Nobody else at Inti wants the CEO position so that doesn't solve anything.
>>574695504Wanting to save adepts is good, but Zonda's methods are terrible. One of the frustrating things about GV in comparison to the other playable characters is that he doesn't acknowledge this. Instead, GV will say that his enemy's grievances are completely unjustified, and they're doing everything for no reason but to inflict harm. He even states a couple of times that adepts are the only ones causing issues around the world, and Eden deserved the traumatic incident that sent them on their downward spiral. GV has a very binary view of the world, and even himself to a certain degree.Strangely, he never does the same with Copen, believing that Copen's heart is in the right place, but what he's doing is bad. Copen, on the other hand, never really challenges Eden's ideals very hard, because he wants the same thing, but flipped.Basically, the audience will want to stop Nova or Eden because they're doing unnecessary evil, but will sympathize with their issues and desperation, and understand why they believe what they do. GV will say that they're just a bunch of whiny douchebags and will dab on their corpses.
>>574697139After mass grave #75 you will take action over inaction.
>>574697139>but will sympathize with their issues and desperationWhen I played GV 1 I did not get what Nova's issue was at all. Dude legit appears to boast and says he hates GV without much depth, it was confusing how hard he was into it.In GV2 Zonda didn't show much depht behind being the so called saviour of the mooks you just kill and the bosses that you fry either. If GV was supposed to feel sorry or understanding for any other than maybe Elise in 1 I don't see how since both sides refuse to talk.
>>574697139>Zonda's methods are terribleHer actual plan is to empower psychics around the world, not extinguish humans as 8-4 claims. Not directly responsible for everything her allies do when they go retard.
I like how the girl in GV that's canonical closest to this is fucking Mytyl.
>>574697139GV throws all nuance out the window when Joule gets involved. He will contort himself to justify why the person who hurt Joule is fundamentally evil in every way and has no point to make or is deserving of mercy. The only reason he was relatively chill and unsanctimonious in GV3 was because Joule was no longer around.
>>574697937Truly a siren drawing him to damnation.And he doesn't even wanna fuck her.
>>574696580Petition to remove Inti from existence instead
>>574697641According to Tai, that's purposeful. You only get a piece of the story, and it's very one-sided. GV3 was different because it had different writers, so you get a more complete picture.>今回のCDドラマは、ゲームでは語れなかったデイトナや紫電の過去にスポットを当てたお話になっています。設定自体はぼんやりと決めていたのですが、 ゲーム本編はGVとシアンの物語なのだからと描かなかった物語です。「物事を一面的に捉えることの危うさ」というのは、津田ディレクターがガンヴォルトという作品で伝えたかったことの一つではないかと僕は思っているのですが、今回、皇神側の過去を書いたことで、そこに立ち返ることができたのではないかと思っています。･･････勘違いだったら恥ずかしいなぁ。今度ディレクターに聞いておこう･･････。今回出せなかった能力者たちにも、それぞれの過去や思惑はあるはずなので、皆さんで想像してみると楽しいかもしれませんね。>This audio drama shines a spotlight on the pasts of Daytona and Shiden—stories that couldn't be told within the game itself. While I had some vague ideas about their backgrounds, I hadn't fleshed them out because the main game was fundamentally the story of GV and Joule. I believe that "the dangers of viewing things from only one perspective" was one of the central themes Director Tsuda wanted to convey through Gunvolt; by writing about the pasts of the Sumeragi characters this time, I feel I was able to revisit that concept. ...It would be embarrassing if I was completely off the mark, though. I should ask the Director about it sometime... The Adepts who didn't appear this time surely have their own pasts and hidden agendas as well; it might be fun for everyone to imagine what those stories could be.>>「物事を一面的に捉えることの危うさ」>> "the dangers of viewing things from only one perspective"You can argue if this is effective storytelling or not. It does lead to a lot of arguments in the fandom (which, from the same interview, he'd also like).
>>574697139>Wanting to save adepts is goodenjoy your dragons then
>>574697641There's a lot of missing context with Nova. The reasons why he hates Gunvolt are actually very compelling. He doesn't just hate him ideologically as a representation of everything wrong in the world, but for very personal and pathetic reasons. GV isn't just a casually and overly violent anarchic terrorist, but somebody who triggered Nova's abandonment issues when the scientists neglected him in favor of GV.Zonda in the English script is the most chillingly evil character in all of Gunvolt and it's not even close. She was responsible for everything and her desires were revealed to be completely selfish. She didn't even love her followers. The Japanese version is a straight antivillain acting out of compassion for other adepts. She believes that nonadepts will kill all adepts unless she completes the muse plan.They're both some of the best Inti villains. ZED and the iX antagonists can't compare.
>>574699281Dragons seem to only happen in timelines where Zonda didn't win.
>>574697728She thinks that empowered adepts will band together in one nation and wipe out all nonadepts, so the desire is there, even though it's likely adepts would not carry out any of her wishes if she'd succeeded.
>>574699939draconic radiation is universal for adepts and draconization will happen sooner or later unless septima completely disappears
>>574697641He didn't feel that bad about Elise. He was pretty casual speaking with Xeno after killing. I think he should feel a little bad about Zonda as she's reduced to a little kid calling out for her bro at the end, but he felt nothing but scorn even decades after.
>>574697641The problem with the infinite "Why does GV only ever sympathize with the Big Cope and not my scrimblo" posts is that Cope is unironically the only person that ever actually attempts to ideologically reach GV or explain his end of the situation without holding his GF hostage while he does it. It's that simple
>>574699939Dragons happen regardless. Zonda winning apparently didn't do anything to benefit which is why you have Xiao stalling for time with the GV2-GV3 pipeline only to try GX.
>>574702839It's actually because he thinks beating up minos is like picking a fight with a toddler. He was always opposed to violence against normies and innocents.
>>574703751weird that he thinks that when GV said that he's yet to fight an enemy as menacing as Copen in 3 and stole his fighting style because it was so tuff but hey
>>574702839>without holding his GF hostage while he does itEmphasis on this. Also the fact that whenever they fight Copen brings up an immediate issue GV can relate to, not something that happened on a far off continent he has no reason to give the square root of a fuck about.>I fight because Sumeragi are dicks.>okay, valid.>I fight because adepts cause mayhem.>okay, valid.
I'm going to sleep goo dnight /mmg/
>>574704161>Nova has Joule in a jar>Asimov shoots Joule in the chest with a gun>Zonda's plan involves taking Joule's power and letting her die>Copen is trying to protect the girl that's Joule's other half from Eden shenanigans spot the difference game
>>574705472In the end, despite GV's talk of justice and ideals, it's really about Joule. That's what people have an issue comprehending. Despite how shonen coded they are, Gunvolt, Copen, Nova, and Zonda do not wear their emotions on their sleeves. Usually, what you see is a mask, and what's stated is a self-justification. So a character will say you've done XYZ and that's why you need to die, but what they're actually angry about is unstated and very personal. Nova's the best example, where he bitches at GV for not thinking of the consequences for his terrorism and violence. While he is pissed about GV's actions/beliefs, what's actually fueling his hate is rooted years ago when they were lab rats. Zonda is about the only one who is honest about what she wants and what is compelling her, but even she's putting on a show of being an enlightened and unfazed saintess. Even then, there are hints that she's not too happy about her plan.
>>574706965Strange crossover, please post more
>>574707620>Strange crossover>YJK gators and YJK dogs
>>574707620
>>574708157We may not like how he kills waifus, but GV is cute so we always end up forgiving him.
>>574708645I didn't.
>>574703510It didn't in the timeline where she wins. That's why the stars sided with her and why that's the only timeline nobody wants to touch.
>>574707897Said strange crossover not your Tuesday mornings.
>>574708936Yeah that's why Xiao didn't pick the obvious win. Stars are bullshit and want everybody dead anon, the fetus with "Infinite Star Reading" is a backup apocalypse trigger.
>>574708936It did otherwise Xiao would have jumped into that one before stalling with the GV2-GV3 pipeline. The stars burned out.
>>574709127This is why the Gal Guardians director hates angels.
>>574709127Doesn't make sense. The stars sent visions to Shadow Yakumo about Dragonvolt. If they wanted the apocalypse, they wouldn't have sent Kirin off to SFIT. They also directed Desna to rescue people during her travels and gave her very accurate predictions about GV3 and iX2.
>>574709641Sure it does. The stars make people see stars and then you get the hair-brained ones to do shit to cause a shift.
>>574709127>chinaman doesn't take the correct and easy way out of spite Say it ain't so!
>the stars are telling me you have to turn around, otherwise you'll disappear from the main story to instead star(heh) in a series of bad shovelware games where you have nothing interesting going for you, where they consistently makes your gameplay worse, where the setup you received doesn't deliver and in fact only regressed your entire character into a literal flanderized stonefaced robot
>>574711246The st𝘢rs... They grow dim... Visions of 𝘢 future beset with ch𝘢os... 𝘈 gre𝘢t swell of d𝘢rk 𝘢nd light which sw𝘢llows 𝘢ll...
Does Light ever explain what exactly a Splashwo is?
>>574712861Yes. She rescues stranded ships and flooded cargo.
>>574709641>still thinks the soothsayer wasn't tipped off by XiaoCome on anon his mother even wears japanese clothing to make it even more painfully obvious.
>>574714106That's her function, not what a splashwo is. That's like saying she's a rescue boat because she does those things but we don't call rescue boats splashwos.
You won't be getting any sleep.
>>574714982Do you think Gibril ever gets height and breast envy around Desna?
>what if Zonda took design cues from Lola rather than Joule/Lumen>or what the Zonda-shard inside Lola would look like
Gal Guardians 3 doko.
>>574715572I like the Alice-themed leotard.
Need less huggable Zonda and more creepy Zonda.
>>574715572>>574716338>Anal queen ZondaBut that doesn't result in minos genocide!
>>574716526I would hug and fug that Zonda too.
The stars in Gunvolt are literally god, who's a woman. Remember that God doesn't want humanity to go extinct, since angel society runs on human love. If humans go extinct there goes a collapse of angel society as their energy and food source fucking vanishes because Gunvolt is a horrible person. So no, Pantera being the good timeline full of love isn't just an impossibility it's literally what will prevent two species from going extinct.That Xiao was working against this says more about him, maybe he needs Eden to fail for his parents to get married and have him or something.However given that every other star prediction was right it's asinine to go "book not this one!".
>>574717471Like I said, he's pulling an Eldar. He found the answer for a better tomorrow but because he doesn't like it he's doing all these loops to find another one that suits his ideal world view.
>>574717471In EP, the stars tell Desna that Eden was at risk of veering from the path of righteousness when they met Olga. Unfortunately, Desna had a washbasin dropped on her and forgot everything she learned in her trance.It's likely that if they had not learned of the Muse, Zonda and some, if not most, of the other Eden members would have matured and become better people. The Muse providing a silver bullet and then Gunvolt/Cope killing them caused them to double down on their genocidal ideas.
>>574581386>but aside from that, all the grunts shown have been in gear that looks like Sumeragi's.The official complete works gave a bunch of lore more or less saying adept society is gonna get a lot worse now that the Butterfly Effect is gone.Copen probably deals with rampaging Sumeragi guys in the intro and then the iX Bearers ENTER.
>>574718448No, the Sumeragi looking dudes are shown across multiple levels, and aside from their grunts looking the same, use different machinery/tech. They are probably affiliated with the iX bearers, not rebels.
>>574718671Sumeragi tech is more rounded, and these aren't in iX Sumeragi colors. It's a different design language.
>>574719004The chunkiness is more similar to AU Copen's tech shown in iX2 than Sumeragi's streamlined designs.
>>574718671If you look closely in the trailer you can see the stage art behind the footage.The lower area and rooftops are part of the same stage, probably the first and second halves.You can also see the bottoms of the skyscrapers right at the start when Copen enters the waterway.
>>574706054what the fuck am I looking at?
>>574706054>Genocider Y-Beta 20Seems like an upstanding dude.
What has Zonda's attention, and how much will it freak Tenjian out?
>>574718671>clearly bouncing off the floor>empty bullitWhynis inti so obsessed with nerfing cope I do not understand
It was at this moment when GV decided that Gibril needed to die.
>>574718448>The official complete works gave a bunch of lore more or less saying adept society is gonna get a lot worse now that the Butterfly Effect is gone.Would been cool making iX2 about that.
>>574706054I didn't know OC recolors were still a thing in the 2020s
>>574716338More like Tanjian
Pink Lola.
/inti/ stream in ~30 hours. It looks like they'll be playing through another level. Maybe they'll elaborate upon or reveal a new mechanic. They're not advertising any juicy details or character reveals this time.
>>574728596Even with the robots idea they didn't need to set it in a different world. The groundwork for a faction of robot bosses was already laid in iX1.
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Are people getting the OCW scans from the discord?
>>574732968I've seen them posted not just here, but on the wiki and twitter.
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>>574732968The link is on the wiki's OCW page.https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Zq8zg9oawi84i2nt2jKsH4Zx9BlDkyi0
This Bloodborne weapon would have been great but I have doubts about it translating well to pixel art.
>>574733739Great. Somebody should add it to our archive.
>>574733739>The no Null content was true>Yet another page for another proto isolaSuddenly, i have the urge to burn the book once it arrives.
>>574733739Thanks.Just going to post some Stella.>JUSTICE + HUMANITY knucklesI liked the prototype hair better too (the one in the upper left)>>574734629>getting upset when the Quinn of iX has barely any pages
>>574734629You see, Isola is a cute adept, and Null is not. Also, I remember Gibril, Zonda, and Lola getting extra pages when their OCW came out.
>>574734629They chickened out from including both naked Null and Mother Lola's fully exposed ass.It's most likely because of CERO regulations but that leads to the question of why they're reliant on this roundabout book publishing method to begin with.Is it really THAT hard to do standalone book publishing?
>>574734993>one of the Isolas here is basically Shinobu.Imagine if they'd gone with that design.Seems too like the alternate personality stuff was more exaggerated.
>>574735136
Why do people say Lola has no ass?
>>574735095They didn't include the pool picture of Isola and Stella either. The poster artwork included was way less ecchi than prior OCW releases.
>>574735392I always thought Lola was supposed to be more like a Cyber Demon than Cyber Angel.
>>574734798>>574734993Suddenly, it seems the feeling about not being "in the general groove" it's hitting like a truck more than it usually does but i will die in this hill if that's the case, i remember when i scanned the iX2 booklet and that was the pages the wiki or discord uses, the cycle is now complete, i guessdon't ever ask again on why the "oc content" went downfall or why the retirement now seems like eternal sleep, all there is is now bitter and imaginary mental illness that gets dealt with by talking to local predictive text responses >>574735095maybe they got trouble with the first ocw release + book license paperwork and yadayadaBesides, there´s the extraofficial game printer contract theory that forces inter for a yearly summer release, pretty much since 2021, and that also messes around with the package content rating of the box, anything outside of it as a bonus is a different item, don't ask why
>>574735792For me she always looked like a phoenix.
>>574733115>>574734015>they concepted a halberd, two shields, a katar and even a scimitar/chakram for the ix2 weapon>>574733281>went with the gay pizza cutterAnother Tai decision or what?
>>574736478>i remember when i scanned the iX2 booklet and that was the pages the wiki or discord usesWikifags taking content and claiming credit? Unthinkable!
>>574741387There's a reason why this general feels like the center of the non asian Gunvolt community at times.
>>574741587>the non asian Gunvolt communityThat's like 200 people so it's not saying much.
>Xiao>Copen>Asimov>Zonda>Alternate timeline evil GunvoltSo what are you banking on to be the final or penultimate bosses in GX? The unifying theme of nearly all the final and penultimate bosses in Gunvolt thus far has been that they are either a Muse or Four Beasts related.
>>574744702Think this question has been asked before. Anyway, Xiao is a shoe-in for second-to-last boss. If he's not fought, then that's forceful evidence for a sequel.It won't be Copen as that would remove the core gameplay mechanic the DLC is built around. While Copen was okay from a gameplay perspective in GV2, he was the most underwhelming final boss in the series from a spectacle angle. It didn't feel like you were fighting somebody unimaginably powerful and otherworldly, just a guy in power armor. His attacks didn't look all that crazy, even if they hit like a truck.Zonda and Asimov might be in because of the attached image. Unlike every other picture shown during Morb's super attack, this one was not a flashback that occurred in a past game. Still, I don't think modern Inti is going to let GV kill a cute 130 again. Evil Gunvolt has a lot of merit, as he's the one who sent Xiao on his adventure, and they have concepts for him in the notes. Tai had already written his character for GV2 before Tsuda forced him to scrap the old script and make GV a hero again.
>>574735509Inti is absolutely cucked to the west and this should be the glaring admission from their part that they have fully bent the knee and are fully committed to safehorny corposlop.
>>574747310They still had some lewd Kohaku stuff, but she's not that interesting from a lewd angle compared to Lola and the others.
>>574744702Is that Boros
>>574744702The lightning pimp cane is fucking on point.Gigachad.
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>>574751537Lev singing Britney Spears songs. . . .
>>574735792So that's how Mother's hair wings things are supposed to work.It's hard to tell from the sprite.I get that it's supposed to imitate the seraph motiff Inti loves so much but it was confusing.
>>574751950One more time is not a Britney Spears song.
>>574735095Considering Japan's the land of comiket and they actually fully own the rights to this shit, I assume it's not that hard and they just realized the can charge more if they bundle it with "games", also incentivizes you to buy more from different retailers if you really want to stare at Kohaku's ass without SAMPLE plastered all over it and other similar junk while giving a somewhat believable excuse that excempts them from any blame whatsoever.
>"""blessed""" with divine knowledge>all she wanted was a boyfriend>the stars never tells her how to get oneAngels are dicks.
>>574725609they want to get closer to Mega Man X/ZeroiX was fine for what it was, but its focus on staying in the air caused level design to be so-so due to being overfocused on bouncing and open spaces with less focus on classic platforming, that's why iX2's levels are so much better in terms of design, they're focused on platforming and they pulled it off brilliantlyiX3 apparently wants to go the same route with solid platforming, more conditional aerial movement, hopefully at least as good level design as in iX2 and more viscerally satisfying divide blades that don't require getting used to, unlike the pizza cutter
>>574730453Behold the fucking Terminator.
>>574532421Not going to lie, every time I see this image my brain automatically thinks Zonda is drinking a bowl of cum in the last frame; it isn't even me just trying to drag a fetish into it, it's just the literal default thought process for this specific image somehow
>>574764138It's not hard. Just walk to a fat minos and kiss him. She didn't need the help of the stars to figure that one out.
>>574525509>ugly useless ass watermark on her drill
>>574535063I'm just scrolling through this thread at the moment a bit, and also want to mention she's getting the full nine inches here
>>574766090Would be a really funny match with that expression
>>574763932Outjewed by Inter again
>>574764203You can never tell if iX2 fans are masterful trolls or just utterly retarded. Looking at Connect iX and GX gameplay, there's still time for Inti to course correct. Hopefully they do.
>>574766090I mean...it was the first non poisoned food somebody gave her.
>>574733115Holy shit the return of the GV1 shield would've been so damn cool, why couldn't we have gotten that
>>574767004You know, the more I get reminded of Zonda's upbringing and so on the more I realize that it'd be so easy to get into a relationship with her just by being genuinely nice and caring that it would almost be sad, girl would get a fancy homecooked dinner on day one
>>574766892I just enjoy iX 2 and while it's not perfect, after replaying Zero and ZX games recently I consider iX 2 a better game, plain and simpleiX is great too, it's not better nor worse, just a different game
>>574734353I thought it was there already
>>574767325>I consider iX 2 a better game, plain and simpleAnd like I said earlier, it doesnt matter if you're trolling or actually this stupid. You dont need to try, your retarded premise that good level design and rocket boots are mutually exclusive is proof enough.
>>574767649I'm a different anon and my favorite MM/Inti platformer of all time is X6, and I mean actual X6 rather than mods that "fix" it.What does that make me?
>>574767824A tryhard.>WELL HOLY GODDAMN
>>574767824Superior taste than the average
>>574766892They are genuinely beyond retarded. Everyone knows why Inti must've felt compelled to alter Copen, and it wouldn't have felt so bad if they hadn't decided to completely gut him into a less fun and janky Zero with none of the elements that made Zero fun to play to begin with. They should've just added Blade as a playable character if they wanted melee so much, then keep Copen's gameplay intact but restrict him to a single dash with a bullit reload on every bounce, enemy or otherwise. Easy fix that still allows for skill based mechanics and keeping momentum.But no. Instead we get this clunky schizophrenic shit. You slowly melee everything until you have 1000 kudos and then you drop it. The quick razor bonus is only 30 because it HAS to be bigger than your air EX (20) and to force you to use it for as long as possible. And every swing has this clunky hit lag that opens you up for taking damage, which means you have to resort to giving up kudos for heals as they got rid of health pickups, which throws you right back to start.And this entire melee escapade was doom to fail from the get-go. They can't make it better than Air Copen otherwise 90% of his kit becomes useless. And by the early looks of iX3 it doesn't look like things are improving.Look at how they massacred my boy...
>retarded premise that good level design and rocket boots are mutually exclusiveyou're not wrong, it is a retarded premise>yourI never said that, go work on your reading comprehensionone bullit is enough of a limitation to make you more grounded and sometimes even force you to walljump, which was never the case in the first iX>b-b-but muh 1000 kudosthat's a reward, not the default statemy point still stands that iX2's levels are explicitly designed to be traversed on foot with only occassional airdashes
>>574767824The person who will create X9
>>574767095Because the Y surpassed the ApeX
>>574768245forgot to quote >>574767649
>iX2 levels explicitly designed for on foot traversal with ocassional air dash>max rank literally impossible without ditching melee after 1k kudos on everything that isn't intro stage or a boss levelYeah you're not getting a (You), you're actively trolling.
>>574768245>one bullit is enough of a limitation to make you more grounded and sometimes even force you to walljump>the entire scoring system relies on airkilling everything without ever stopping on the groundNext you'll say scoring isnt the main point of these games.>I never said that>iX2's levels are explicitly designed to be traversed on foot with only occassional airdashes>says exactly that againI think you should stop posting, anon. You're convincing everyone you really are retarded now
>>574768864just admit that you got spoiled by the first iX, don't like iX 2 personally, can't get used to the pizza cutter and don't give a fuck about scoringdo you also prefer Touhou over Battle Garegga? lmao
>>574767289Tenjian should've spanked her more...oh wait she'd like that wouldn't she.
>max rank literally impossible without ditching melee after 1k kudos on everything that isn't intro stage or a boss level>you don't give a fuck about scoringThis is the true face of iX2 fans.
>>574768264The return of nightmare effects
Gunvolt games haven't had level design since GV1
>>574769483Intibros...
>>574768220It's always one step forward two steps back with inti. Fixing iX2 cope was as easy as letting him fly without overdrive and that's bad so they have to fix something that works. Then again, maybe Inti actually is doing something smart and the temporary airdashes are supposed to get you easy aerials so you can get to overdrive faster and get the bullit gauge back. Beats the retarded 30 kudos breaks and EMPTY, that's for sure.
>>574769094Probably, though honestly I feel like seeing how much you can piss off Tenjian by making Zonda happy "but not his way" is a decent slice of the appeal of Zonda loveObviously I'd still love Zonda if it isn't a factor, but the thought of telling Tenjian that his sister was fucked silly last night and watching him immediately border on having an aneurysm since he can't do shit about it without making Zonda depressed is hilarious
>Roro is all but ready to sing for GV>Lumen asks GV if he wants a duetIt technically isn't NTR, but it sure does seem like it. Roro is such a promiscuous slut you almost feel bad for Cope.
>>574729614I mean... that was the joke, anon
Zonda is cute
>>574774820Lore accurate eyes.
>>574775319Levposter is back!
>>574776230Levposter is Shantae poster is Zondaposter is Yohaneposter is Yugiohbratposter is Lumenposter is Misoraposter is Eliseposter.
>>574773039All Mytyl's influence by the way.
mythril kamisono is a nothing character that should stay gone
>>574767289>it'd be so easy to get into a relationship with her just by being genuinely nice and caring that itThat fits almost every female boss in all the games.
>>574777493Mytyl Kamizono is a woman that yearns to procreate to such a degree it became RoRo's personality.
>>574777802It also fits the anime trope of "just be nice" that doesn't apply outside of it.
>>574778228With all respect for her brother who loves her, but she's a fucking adept rat.
>>574778418Adepts are human.Let the adept girl be horny and procreate like God intended.
>>574779049Dragons in disguise, a mortal threat for actual humans. EXTERMINATE.
>>574779254Only happens in bad timelines.
>>574779854Gunvolt universe, as a whole, is a bad timeline.
>>574780002That's no excuse to surrender to the evils of Juan Voltios; we must not give in to doom and despair lest it destroy us.
>>574778375Yeah, I wonder why the mostly female elite decided to send them all to death camps.
>>574764138The stars wished her to guide Zonda, Gibril and all the female members of Eden into every TCG and/or gumpla store and take their desrved due of the genetic pie. But then she took a whole kitchen sink to the head and forgot about that part.
>>574780592I never expected this series to have something in common with Armitage Third.
We're winning
>>574777802Dream on. Every girl in Eden has an army of nice guys behind them, it's practically part of all their respective backstories. What makes you so special?>but I'd be MC-kun, the generic nice guy!Uh-huh.
the culture wars
>>574781801This is why Morpho is a siren of doom, she drags everyone down to feel better about her own inadequacies.Why? Because she's just Cyan and since Cyan is never getting GV's dick that's gonna be everyone else's problem.
>>574780286Gibril was one of the adepts who deserved getting lux'd, and I'm one of the people who thinks she could still grow up into a good person.
Do you think she enjoys the humiliation?
>>574779254>Dragons in disguiseTransformers?
no
>>574782640Manaketes. >>574782618She seems to enjoy pain, not being made a fool of wich is why she gets so angry at perceived insults.
Consider that every GV game since GV2 has had at least three female bosses.>>574781801Some of the guys were considered highly desirable as well. The Eden elite were very attractive, which is partially why they were so popular online in-universe and why some lower-level Eden residents worshipped them as semi-divine.
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>>574782989Despite being the most grimdark, GV2 is where the GalGun connections are the most overt, so of course everyone is a glamorous hottie.
Can leaving plot threads unresolved be an effective storytelling technique? A character cut down before they resolve their issues or complete their growth feels more tragic as they had more to live for. The lack of cathartic payoff makes you miss them more. For instance, Copy X and the Guardians were never able to complete their redemption story, and Zero never found out about his origin or background when they perished.
>>574782989Doesn't Elise count as 3?
>>574784262It's still monogamy being married to all three of her, so no.
makers of bad
>>574784197Provided it is a deliberate artistic choice rather than a mistake, otherwise it's just incompetent writing. As a general rule, the central conflict and the main character's arc MUST be resolved. We need a satisfying payoff for our emotional investment, all the unresolved threads can be secondary elements.
>when the Zonda takes over
plotlines
games
tanlines
How can people sympathize with anyone who hurt Joule? I can't believe that there are so many stupid or sick people out there who think Eden or Sumeragi shouldn't be burning in hell for what they did or wanted to do to Joule.
>>574784197It depends on circumstance, sometimes it's good and other times it's badFor example, part of Zero's concept in the Zero series was wanting to remember who he is, but willingly deciding "fuck that, this is who I am" over the course of the series is goodCopy X and the Guardians literally just didn't have a complete character arc, which is bad
>>574744702Banking on evil GV from the original timeline.
>reminder that before the thread split the Intispics ran away shrieking when it was suggested this was made an OP on GV3's original run
>>574781801I can't speak for everyone here, but I can make teriyaki chicken from scratch, I have a nine inch cock, and I can do a near perfect impression of male Copy Zonda's mannerisms from head to toe while also having a similar physical buildI don't think I'd have a good chance with every single one of the adepts but given that Zonda was the one who thought up copy Zonda, I think I'd have a chance with her specifically
>>574785776They do make bad plots, but their settings and character writing/designs are good to great.
>>574785998You have no idea how much I want to squish Zonda's cheeks while she's pouting like that, fuck
>>574785998Concession accepted then.
The thing that Joule, Gibril, and the others don't get is that you can't seduce Gunvolt by playing the role of the chick. GV needs to be treated like he's a heroine, so they need to take a more direct approach, like Kirin was doing. Also don't hurt Joule. Even if you're Joule, you shouldn't hurt Joule, as that permanently lowers all of his flags.
>>574785323Right? All she wanted was to just live out a profoundly grounded and peaceful domestic life with her brotherhusband. Centering their daily rhythm around home-making, cooking and simple comforts to anchor them in the present. The sanctuary of a cozy, well kept home and lots of handholdy missionary sex.Literally too pure for this cruel world.
>>574779049This is how magical girl Gibril should look like.
>>574787358Her septima brainwashes adepts to be obsessed with her/Lumen, so that was never an option.
>>574787052Question, would GV's brain short circuit if he discovered Joule was a masochist and whipped herself daily
>>574787736Then they all must die.
>>574787943Dude, GV burned a fuse when Neon beat him up and then let him live. Brazilians can't understand non violent human interaction.
Dr. K. and Copen are the only characters with purely good intentions in the whole series. Regardless of methods.
>>574788685
Will DO live up to the hype?
>>574788842Zonda is the character doing bad things without any hate or selfishness because she thinks it's the only path to survival. Copen likes hurting adepts. After watching Asroc burn alive, Copen says that it was too good a death for him and wishes it were morer painful. He also says several times that he's going to draw out the deaths of his opponents. Dr. K also enjoys torturing adepts.
>>574789410Hype?
>>574789410What hype? Everyone is expecting a fun, but standard Classic game.
>>574787736Only if actively abused, she literally had no problem with people being obsessed with her during the 6 months with GV, then Merak showed up.
>>574789434and that's purely good of a motivation, to fucking exterminate the fuck of a species that eventually WILL destroy the world and it's unavoidable by any method other than preventing them from existing the very moment a septimosome is detectedthousands must die for billions to live, words of wisdomzondera is just another adept that will turn into a dragon or at the very least contribute to that process by existing and emitting dragon radiation
>>574785785Zonda's type is white-haired racist bad boys willing to put their lives on the line for their convictions, yet cuddly to the few people they let into their lives (and are also willing to die for those people).
>>574790237Cychronicles and Mirage Party says hi.
>>574790262Okay so I just want to mention that my brain was a bit slow to realize what the image was because of the post and for a split second I thought this was art of Zonda having somehow genderbent Copen and doing this, which is a very different flavor of degen
>>574789410Should have been called 12
Why does Copen have such a nice ass?
>>574792164Why do you think copy zonda did what he did in Burst
>>574792164
>>574792334>>574792164It's the Kamizono special.
>>574792164>butt girl general>look inside>guys have all the butt
>>574787052Tell me more.
Gibril after losing a fight.
>>574787052Um, what? He will kill for Joule because her singing and cooking are just that important to him. No, you just need to be the girl who finds him first, and also not try to kill him. That's why Quinn and Joule are the only ones to get anywhere near 2nd base.
Is Zonda's love fake like Gunvolt says?
>>574792993oops, wrong pic
>>574793178They got sister-zoned. Lola got closer to a home run with Copen in Clockwork Daydream than Joule or Quinn ever did with GV.
>>574793181everything about her is fake
>>574790262So what's next here, they double team GV?
>>574792491It's only fair that if he takes so much after his father on the top half, he should take THAT much after his mother on the bottom half.
>>574793373Meanwhile GV2's end credits shows that him and Quinn went on the closest thing to a date while Joule never did.
>>574793181I'm sure the retarded child soldier led like a fucking buffoon every game is a great judge of character.
>>574792164It's to lure adepts out of hiding.
Pantera is the only path forward and Xiao has to grow up and accept the future is bratty.Otherwise he'll keep causing the dragon bullshit that kills his mom.
>>574794982>still hasn't been uploaded ti the fanbox
>>574793649You mean the one that appears after he bumps into the love of his life? With the sakura blossoms swirling around the two of them? The one where he walks away with shadowed eyes as he copes and settles with the random girl he's squatting at?That one? Yeah, must feel real good for Quinn to know he'll never look at her the same way he gazed upon the small adept girl with purple hair and feelers.
>>574795702Mytyl isn't Joule, for starters she's not a vindictive cunt.I'm glad Joule is gone.
>>574795702The final levels of GV3 imply that GV had developed feelings for Kirin as well.
>>574795362Fanbox releases a month after delivery so check back on august 16 or so.
>>574795971Mytyl is genki and outgoing and wants to be an adept.Joule is shy and introverted and hates being an adept.Mytyl is as different from Joule as Zonda is from Joule.
>>574795971>can still kinda recall Gunvolt>even uses the exact same phrase for him>can't recall anything about her own brotherShe's waaaaay more Joule, she's even questioning if Mytyl is her real name.
>>574796457So that's why Joule had to make sure Zonda turbodead. Imagine how Mytyl would have turned out if Zonda's personality were in the driver's seat.
>>574796295What are you talking about, Joule doesn't hate being an adept. She only resents the nature of her powers due to how much suffering it has caused, to herself and others.She's as close to angelic as any girl can come in this dogwater series.
>>574796457>huh that guy is thereThe epitome of Joule.
>>574796725Why the fuck would she have been there to begin with this headcanon is so fucking retarded.
>>574796725Zonda without her bad memories and Tenjian's teachings wouldn't be a bad person. I don't think Joule would care much, though. Anyone who hurts Gunvolt is going down.
>>574796830>She's as close to angelic as any girl can come in this dogwater seriesShe's worse than actual demons. It's all "mememe!" with no empathy for anyone not named Gunvolt.
>>574796917Because her soul had merged with the other three.
>>574796838>Excuse me, are you an angel? You seem really familiar>I kept having this dream over and over. I still don't know his name, only that he fought for meI mean, how much more do you need? The entire epilogue and credits are devoted to showing just how much she's still Joule, and that her love for him remains.
>>574797070She clearly didn't, the absortion was more or less the same as with Nova despite Zonda saying it isn't. It was so not merged the power literally rebelled against her.
>>574797007>>574796830
>image set of the dogshit OVA
>>574797210Mytyl is Mytyl, Joule is gone and these are just fading thoughts given Jouke held her powers for a long time.
>>574797231Love how the entire plot of GV2 is pointless. Zonda would have died no matter what and her plans would never have succeeded, although I guess it's based that GV got to strizer her and get some enjoyment from her pathetic death. Joule would have been permakilled no matter what. Copen and GV's fight at the end is pointless. All of GV's actions after repelling Eden were largely pointless.
>>574797254>Joule's bond with Gunvolt shows unconditional devotion, hope, and unwavering beliefYeah Joule is his resolve and his anthem. When the world shatters around him and all else is stripped away, her song is the pure, unshakeable faith that gives him the strength to fight back. It's been 3 whole games of this.
>>574797545The Xiao reveal in general is extremely depressing overall, what used to be caused by character flaws is now just the self destructive design of whatever writes fate. I miss when GV's short sightedness was what Desna was alluding to instead of some bullshit dragon aids apocalypse.
>>574797727Fight back against what? Everything Gunvolt fights is self-inflicted since he lacks any form of conviction.
>>574797545>based that GV got to strizer her and get some enjoyment from her pathetic death.As a Joulefag, I got a lot of enjoyment from that. I only wished that Joule had destroyed her soul after she'd eaten a strizer, like the memers say.
>>574797840The secret ending heavily implied he was manipulating everyone throughout GV2. It was probably Xiao feeding those character flaws that ensured the pendant outcome. He was the hidden devil on the shoulders of all the factions.
>>574797976I try really hard to separate Cyan from her mentally ill fans. She may not be a good person but that doesn't meant she deserved to be gunned down by Asimov.
>>574797956>Everything Gunvolt fights is self-inflicted Having the courage to act as a shield for someone else is fundamentally a strength, not a fault. It's not his nor Joule's fault that evil seeks to exploit her powers when she just seeks a life of normalcy.
>>574798268He's not a shield, he was a sword wieled by evil because they jangled keys in his face.Everything that happens is the result of his vapidity and shows how empty power is when there's no purpose to guide it.
>>574798495The tree of Joule must be watered with the blood of evil orphans.
>>574797976Can you please either stop falseflagging or just being such a retarded edgelord in case this is actually genuine?
Does Luna have femdom appeal?
>>574798853Uh, anon, all he does is get Cyan killed.Following Asimov got her gunned down like Asimov wanted(it was his contingency plan), following Xiao turned out to be a scheme to get Cyan soulvored back into Mytyl and GV performed his role perfectly. The one thing he wanted to protect doesn't even exist anymore because of his actions when all he had to do was walk away.
>>574798495Gunvolt refused evil because of Joule. Asimov and Nova saw her as nothing more than a Septima wielding weapon to be used, and Zonda saw her only as a resource to be taken advantage of by brutally fracturing her soul.Gunvolt's central motivation is to protect Joule and give her a normal life, but the cruel reality of their world, and the ambitions of factions like Sumeragi and Eden. constantly force him into bloody conflicts. It is the cycle of violence.
>>574799376>Gunvolt refused evilHe literally causes the apocalypse. He is evil by any metric.
>>574799494>causes the apocalypse due to bullshit completely out of his control>evilLol, lmao even
>>574799494Doesn't that only happen if he eats Asimov's soul?
>>574799494Come on anon, that's unreasonable.
>>574799654He causes it out of constant tantrums he justifies to himself. In any other media he'd rightfully be the villain, which fits as he's an anti-hero who's "heroism" is very relative to the people he's fighting.
>>574799672No it always happens regardless of that because the world has him designated as the vehicle to kill everyone. It's very retarded and removes agency from everyone with regards to this but Inter makes shit plots so par for the course.
>>574799807It isn't. Not even Asimov is this destructive and he's one of the worst people in the series.And it's all because of his own making, or sometimes because Xiao discovers causing GV2 was a shittt idea.
>>574799672>>574799654>>574799494It's probably tied to the septimosomes/spirits he absorbs from dead adepts, with Asimov being a huge contributor. It's what those glowy level-up balls that GV absorbs are. GV's power growth is tied directly to the number of adepts he kills. This is also why in GV3, Kirin and GV don't really grow more powerful. They aren't unlocking new septimal abilities when they defeat opponents. You get more IP slots, but that's different from the upgrades you get in GV1/GV2.
>>574799376It's only because he allows Joule's spirit to cling onto him like a wraith that her power continues to cause conflict. Had he simply done the hard, but right thing by letting her go, none of GV2 or 3 would've happened.
>>574800094>And it's all because of his own makingI resent that, Gunvolt's transformation is a tragic consequence of circumstances well beyond his control, but that goes beyond what Joule means to him.Ultimately, Gunvolt's entire character arc is like a classic tragedy and defined by the sorrow of having the simplest, most human desire - a quiet life with the person he cares about - be the one thing entirely out of his reach. And just like any classic tragedy, the only ones to blame are gods and the state of the world.
>>574800221He absorbs Asimov and Joule, that's it. Even when Xiao removes that from the equation he still randomly ends up exploding, there is no agency in any of this.
guisguisedid u knowthat gunvolt le bad???
>>574800516He literally shoo'd her away by calling her a swampwoman for months before he met Quinn but they're physically unable to split. He's just a colossal faggot all around for this but the whole "let go" angle is pure retardation when if she had any say in it she'd have just left in between games when he treated her like shit.
>>574800562>Gunvolt's transformation is a tragic consequence of circumstances well beyond his controlIt's a result of his own actions. GV is responsible for what he's done and even he realizes this himself come GV3. The only "tragedy" is that even with an X-like amount of time to think on what's he's done he's hardly changed. At least he realizes this about himself now.
>>574800563Inti has been pretty autistic about keeping gameplay mechanics diegetic. This is where the mechanics are explained through some in-universe lore. There aren't many mechanics that just exist purely as gameplay. So GV's septima getting more powerful (aka leveling up) as he absorbs spirits is something that is happening in-universe.
>>574801015We'll just keep going in circles at this point and I'm never going to convince you otherwise, so I'll just leave it at that.
>>574801253>>574801253
>>574801015Explain the direct and foreseeable correlation between killing all those adepts and lmaoYugiohDragonFormTHESTRONGESTKKKKKKK transformation years after when he's pretty much on retirement. If the problem had been worldwide chaos or adept suffering due to no Eden or adept lashing out I'd understand it but GV3's plot isn't about that.
>>574801253Sorry anon but Gunvolt is in fact responsible for his actions.
>>574801216>headcanonThe only absortion directly observed in universe lore is AB spirits from Asimov and Cyber Diva, the rest isn't a thing.
>>574801403That reminds me, is archive anon going to add >>574733739 to the MEGA?
>>574801415GV3 already did. The power he amassed turns him into a pokemon and then when selaed his radioactive energy wad being pumped everywhere.The thing is, even if it wasn't, he was already about to break free and kill everyone anyways until Majogami ver 1.0 sealed him into a pomeranian because God told her to.I swear, explaining the plot of these games makes me sound like I'm deranged.
>>574801540Then what are the level ups meant to be?
>>574801743Nothing. They're just a gameplay mechanic or abstraction. Do you think Goombas literally disappear when Mario hops on them? It's just gameplay. The glowballs are for player satisfaction; it's not literally happening. None of this needs a lore explanation. GV getting stronger is not at all what is actually happening; it's just for the player's benefit.
>>574801743Gameplay segregation elements that aren't even consistent with unlock order if taking cutscenes into consideration. GV uses Crashbolt to break free from Tenjian ice in the intro stage before he absorbs the corresponding AB spirit that gives it.To top it all off if it worked like you say it does he would not start without Luxcalibur or any of the other GV1 unlocks circa GV2.
When you think about it, the guy that was urging GV on to show no mercy and kill even civilians in Belladen was probably not a good person to pay attention to and likely had something in mind when he had that fucking pendant on standby.
>>574801540Everyone said for years that Xiao having time manipulation was headcanon until GX confirmed it. Even today we have people saying that Xiao in GX was a retcon of his purported past in GV2.
>>574801686Yeah and this was clearly forseeable considering he actually lost power at the end of GV2. GV3 is pure shit.
>>574801403Thanks delivery-anon.>>574801468What actions? Just like Adam Jensen, Gunvolt didn't ask for any of this. Despite wielding godlike power, his deepest desire is simply to live in quiet peace with Joule, the emotional center of his life. Yet, he's constantly being dragged into conflict by outside forces that seeks to exploit her in particular. It's a perpetual cycle that isolates him from the very normality he craves.Copen is the one driven by an obsessive crusade that blinds him to the suffering he causes, Gunvolt is hyper aware of the cost of the conflict. That's why he questions if the cost of his choices were worth it, since in the end he failed both Joule and lost Lumen.At least until GX gave him Lumen back.
>>574802445>Gunvolt didn't ask for any of thisAnd he went ahead and did it anyways. "The only winning move is not to play" is very acute here, since for all his power GV was too weak to simply let it go and actually have that normal life he said he wanted for Cyan.
>>574802249That does not mean I should consider your headcanon that has no basis on any in game or out of game lore. GV can only absorb compatible septima (so electron based one like other Azure Strikers, Cyber Diva and he could also theoretically do it with Hack the Planet) he isn't absorbing every fucking soul out there.
GVX: Gunvolt is doomed to evil because he's Lyzenorg reborn and those are powers he's absorbing every time he kills someone.
>>574802583So you're telling me he should've just let Nova permajar Joule, that's letting go according to you.
>>574802583Holding the power to help and choosing inaction is fundamentally the definition of a dereliction of duty. A hero's true essence is forged by stepping up when it matters most. "The only winning move is not to play" is quickly outweighed by the moral weight of what happens when they do nothing.
>>574802164GV was completely justified, and I think him not caring or being satisfied and vindictive about killing others is based. None of Sumeragi or Eden deserve pity or regret. Wah wah Zonda cried for her brother. So what? It doesn't change anything and GV telling her she's a souless piece of shit who deserved this as she cried like a little bitch is what she deserves. Elise is another character bring up, but again, why should he care? Why should he say "damn those Sumeragi bastards" when Elise deserved all the hate? She attacked him and proved herself to be a monster. It had been Elise who was responsible for all the hell GV had been going through for the past couple of minutes, and she showed her true loyalties when she revealed her glaive. GV talking about killing Elise like he just beat a video game is how most rational men would have treated the situation.
>>574802784Nova only jarred her because he trusted Satan that by putting a bullseye on his head by acts of terrorism she'd be safe somehow.And to no one's(I hope) surprise it was all a setup so both GV and Cyan where in the right place to enact Asimov's plan where then ventilated them for refusing.
>>574802938>Holding the power to help and choosing inaction is fundamentally the definition of a dereliction of dutySo what does it mean to choose harm over help? Only makes him worse.
>>574803002He literally met her in a jar but inside a train instead of an orbital station, the fuck are you on Nova's plan was always jarring her he judt delayed that half a year.
>>574802290GV3 reaffirms GV was right and that Eden and most of Sumeragi need to die. Nova was the only one that GV regretted killing. GV liked killing the other adept kids because they are evil.
Actually, thinking about the finale of GV1 is really funny since we know that Nowa saved Acura with a space ship but he crawls through the elevator to pick up his gun. Did he jump off at one point? Did she tell him to just wait and they'd land but then he went no? So bizarre. >>574803669He only caught her again because GV was being a tard.
>>574803814TIL the lesson GV should've learned was just better enployer selection. Should've become a salaryman at 14 instead.
>>574803680>GV3 reaffirms GV was rightI'm not sure how you landed on that conclusion given the doom dragons of death running around.
>>574803139No, because he doesn't do it out of malice, madness, or a broken moral compass. He does it to protect Joule. We have to consider the moral framework and the context of the story. Gunvolt is a reluctant hero, he doesn't want to be the benevolent legend who topples the evil empire or whatever, he doesn't want supremacy, and he doesn't care about the grander politics of things. He just wants to lay down his weapons, protect the people he loves and live a peaceful life with Joule. That's it. It is the grim circumstances of the world that constantly force him into the role of the Azure Striker.
>>574804023>He does it to protect JouleAnd she died both times, as planned by the people he was working for.Kind of shit at the one thing he wanted honestly.
>>574804003Because the doom dragon is not his fault. It would have been worse had he not taken action.
>>574803680The fuck!? Kirin spends all that game simping for Sumeragi.
>>574804185He directly caused those. Even he realizes its his fault.And I was referring to both GV and Morb.
>>574804023No, Gunvolt is plenty malicious. Have you compared his haikus to other non-malicious characters like Desna or Zonda? They're all about bloodshed and hurting others. He has a huge vengeance streak. One of his most common phrases are "there is no justification" or "you do not deserve forgiveness/mercy." He is extremely vengeful towards Asimov, Nova, and Zonda. While he cooled on Nova, he still hated Zonda so much that her showing her vulnerable little girl side did not move him at all, and he still thinks she's a sociopath who he was happy to kill.
>>574799192yeah
>>574804625>"there is no justification" or "you do not deserve forgiveness/mercy." Zero also used to think like this but unlike Gunvolt he knew who to attack. Maybe because unlike Gunvolt, his wars were trully his.
>>574804584How exactly. He was at home and one day he just exploded.
>>574804625All in the context of them hurting Joule, you might add.>he still hated Zonda so much that her showing her vulnerable little girl side did not move him at allYeah, he probably had the image of Zonda and Tenjian brutally shattering Joule's soul with ZERO regards for her desperate cries still fresh in his mind. Do apologize if he gives less than a fuck when the little girl cries because she gets her due comeuppance.
>>574805137The power he amassed coalesced into the monster he was told to his face that he'd become.I bet you he felt like a total goober when the mad ramblings of Russian Rapunzel were 100% accurate.
>>574805143>>574804625He calls Zonda a woman, so didn't see her as a little girl. Quinn and Joule are girls.
>>574804163That's the tragedy part of the story, silly.
>>574805143>Do apologize if he gives less than a fuck when the little girl cries because she gets her due comeuppance.I wonder how he'll react to finding out Xiao orchestrated the whole thing and he was played like a fiddle to give Cyan her final death.
>>574804625>Have you compared his haikus to other non-malicious characters like Desna or Zonda?>Sacred sword agleam; Barbarous and bathed in blue; Cleaving right from wrong!; Luxcalibur!>Bolts of rebellion; A thunderous voice in his heart; Speaks of one true law!; Voltaic Chains!>Lightning that flickers; Like a star, and purges evil; That violate its realm!; Astrasphere! That's plenty heroic to me. Zonda's on the other hand are evil:>Heed me, O fallen; Heed my desire deep, dark, and true; And return to me; EDEN'S PRESENCE
>>574805343>oh no my evil actions hurt those the evil actions were meant to protect woe is me!When Anakin did this he had three whole movies of buildup.and people still mock it.
>>574805143Zonda didn't deserve any sympathy. GV purposefully forgot about her because he says that she doesn't deserve to be remembered. It's a huge burn. You only live so long as you're remembered. A lot of people blame the setting or adults for the actions of the characters, when really all of it are Zonda and Nova. They would still be shitty people even in a better world. That is why GV never blames the state of the world for their behavior, but them directly. As somebody said before, he doesn't get angry at Sumeragi for Elise and Stratos's actions, he blames Elise and Stratos and all of his disgust is directed to them.>>574805416Xiao probably barely did anything. He just pointed Zonda the way and her own actions led Eden down its path.
I'm this close to buying the pherome Z on vita just to send a message to Inti.
>>574805343He's being really obstinate about this. Gunvolt is not a hero glorying in battle, he is a boy trapped by his own strength. His story is profoundly melancholic because it proves that in a world this divided and fucked, even the most selfless and human desire, a quiet and domestic life with the person he cares about, is the one thing destiny will never allow him to have.
>>574805445>8-4Gunvolt's haikus:>Radiant is the holy sword wreathed in lightning.>Tyranny of the azure lightning—impale the enemy!SPARK CALIBUR>A flash of lightning signals the beginning of rebellion>A roaring thunderclap is proof of bloodshed>A cleaving strike of lightning is the very principle of all thingsVOLTIC CHAIN>Drift like a celestial body, O lightning.>Purge all that comes across your pathLIGHTNING SPHEREZonda's haikus:>With heartfelt love,>My comrades, my family>Return to this land once more.RESIDENT OF EDEN>Let us sing the song of the Muse>To the forlorn warrior>May death bring him peacePhantasmal Paradise Melody
>>574805264Yeah that was totally forseeable and not just hack writing induced by Tsuda seething over mean Copen fans online.
>>574805852It's tragic because GV and Joule can't be happy, not because GV is forced to kill a bunch of orphans. The games always sets up those bad kids as being deserving of it. Inti are probably weirded out that people have sympathy for the bad kids when you were meant to enjoy killing them.
Jouleposters/GVposters (the overlap is almost 100%) are the most bloodthirsty people on here. Even more than the Copenfag. The Copenfags at least joke about adeptwife for the world's biggest racist.
>>574806359That's mostly because Cope is such a non-threat that people resort to clowning on him instead.
>>574806359Please do not lump me with these unhinged retards all I want is her to be happy.
>>574802973>killing Elise like he just beat a video game is how most rational men would have treated the situationMost rational men would have thought to themselves "Damn, could've tapped that!!"
>>574806159Well yeah, they're our protagonists. The heartbreaking realization that Gunvolt and Joule's fates are locked in a cycle of sacrifice and separation, leaving them unable to find true, lasting peace together is the emotional gut punch of the series.Are the villains tragic? Yes. Do they deserve sympathy? Absolutely. Does it excuse them of what they did to Joule? For Gunvolt, it is a glaringly red 'No'. You can still feel bad for them while recognizing that their actions are unforgivable.
>>574807297I don't think the villains deserve any sympathy and can't be redeemed. The other games establish that GV can knock them out. He doesn't because they deserve to die. Tsuda tripped up when he made most of them 10-15 year olds because that's shorthand in most media, even anime, for "this character deserves sympathy and can be fixed." So people read tragedy into the villains when there was meant to be none.
>>574806927>Grab Elise >Tell her that she's a bride now >And that she's gonna be the mother of 6 at 22 years old How would she take it?How would the other Elises take it?
>>574806359>The Copenfags at least joke about adeptwifeCopenfag here, we "joke" about that because we are self aware that in his shoes we would fold like a tower of cards when we meet the first female adept boss.
>>574807774I think it is a case by case matter. Many of them are victims of a world that oppresses adepts, though a few unrepentant masterminds intentionally cross the line into cruelty. Take Asimov and Nova, who were treated as expendable lab rats and groomed as weapons by Sumeragi. It is hard not to pity them a little bit, even if they lack remorse and are completely ready to run horrific human experimentation rings, or commit mass murder to secure political and biological supremacy. Do they deserve sympathy? Not really.Eden's systemic trauma makes their motivations understandable, even if their actions as an organization are unforgivable. They're yet another reflection of a deeply broken world, but their choice to commit genocide crosses the line from victim to aggressor.Elise was just a insecured, bullied teen who was abducted from her home and brutally experimented on, forcibly altering her brain chemistry, which permanently fractured her mind and created the aggressive split personalities. Here's an adept who deserves sympathy and redemption, because her violent and dominant personality isn't who she truly is. In many ways, she is a prisoner in her own body, unable to stop the atrocities her alternate personalities commit.Though she's probably so far gone by the time Gunvolt reaches her that putting her down is a mercy.
>>574809621Elise 1 asserting herself over the other personalities, much to their shock, as they realize they can't disobey her when she actually takes charge.
>>574809621But GV never blames the world for their conditions. It's all them. Screwed up circumstances don't create a person, merely reveals what was always there. GV and Joule are good people despite all their trauma. The rest aren't.
>>574807774>Tsuda tripped up when he made most of them 10-15 year olds because that's shorthand in most media, even anime, for "this character deserves sympathy and can be fixed."Ironically, the number and ratio of adult villains (17+) who are meant to be pitied have been higher than kid villains. Adult villains are also more likely to be shown mercy. The most evil organization in all the games, the one that GV feels good about annihilating by the end of GV3, is almost entirely made up of 10-20 year olds. It's another subversion of common tropes.
>>574810946Gunvolt acknowledges that the world is incredibly cruel, but he also seperates condition from action. Instead of justifying their cruelty by pointing to a flawed society, he holds individuals directly accountable for their own choices. And I respect that. Your past, trauma, or upbringing might explain how you were shaped, but it should never dictate who you become. Taking radical responsibility means owning your trajectory and consciously choosing your actions, no matter the cards you were dealt.If Joule couldn't be free from tormenting others with her septima she was complete fine with GV ending her life right there on the train, that's the difference. Many of the characters became villains because they chose to be villains.
>>574812493Yeah, easy to say all that stuff when you have the privilege of living in the most peaceful, well-guarded country in the setting and never witnessed a race riot or a massacre.
>>574812493The dark side of that is that GV views things in black and white, wouldn't bat an eye about killing preschoolers if they fought against him, and every fight he takes on is to the death. This colors how he approaches scenarios and how people respond to him, leading to a cycle of escalating violence. GV has the view that you win by causing as much death and destruction as you can to your enemy, but that usually ends up making the peace he earns nasty. There's a reason in the real world why most wars aren't fought until one side has been eradicated. The ideal is always that you convert a former enemy to your side or at least force them to behave, but GV's outlook doesn't allow for such victory conditions. He's not going to do targeted killings, but instead will walk in and kill every person he can find. GV gets compared to Zero a lot, but Zero would call such tactics dumb. He's more like Locke, if Locke killed.
None of you are ready for when Zonda is revealed to be the main heroine of GX
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>>574813998He was raised by Asimov, after all. He's just not the type of person who is going to cry over enemies. He's not moved by their backgrounds, and even says they deserved it. GV doesn't care about age, gender, or if you need to literally hurt Joule to save your family, he will hate you and make sure you die. If you want a character who blames Sumeragi or the fucked up world for having to kill pitiable characters, that's iX, not GV. That callousness is the spice that makes him interesting. A generic shonen hero would become morose over having to kill a young antivillain, but GV usually pats himself on the back for a mission well done and will badmouth the dead character even several weeks after the fight.
>>574814362Alexisbros...
>>574812857>>574813998The bottom line is that GV sees accountability over excuses. He often recognizes the trauma or tortured existences of the adepts he fights, but to GV, a villain's tragic origin does not excuse their choice to inflict that exact same pain onto others.It's probably the same reason he refuses to use his own immense power to subjugate others or "fix" the world by force.
>>574812857Also when you are the literal 1% priviliedged minority who survived and have godlike powers to do whatever you like.
>>574815549Basically, but many people in the audience don't judge them by the same standards they'd judge each other by because the characters are cute and young. They may acknowledge that killing these characters may be necessary, but they still mourn them. Unless you're a complete imbecile or a Joulefag, it's difficult to hate many of the villains, especially once you gain some context. Like, I get the feeling that Nova and Zonda were heavily groomed into their beliefs, so it's difficult to hold them 100% accountable.This creates a disconnect and tension between the main character and the audience, which is fine. I think the people who wholeheartedly agree with GV are as weird as the people calling him the devil. GV doesn't view killing any of them as a big deal and even liked doing it in some cases because he views them all as monsters. He judges them as he'd judge himself.
>>574816762I honestly think that Asimov is the only truly evil character in the franchise who actually shows up in game, everyone else is a varying shade of "could be a good person but has X fucked up trait holding them back"
>>574814663>If you want a character who blames Sumeragi or the fucked up world for having to kill pitiable characters, that's iX, not GV. That callousness is the spice that makes him interestingThis. iX would never have a 200 post discussing the main character's complex inner workings, because he has none.
